Serato 25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, what's playing in the background. Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Sorry, this Dodger game because the Dodgers are playing. Bro Like,
what the hell record here? I'll turn it off. I'll
turn it off.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Leave me alone.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
You bothered? You had to go and take that fifteen
minute those streaker breaks.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
We didn't get what yo? Yo? Can I can I
ask you something? Does the whole world even looks? I know?
But you why you asked? On Earth takes it?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Okay? I know? And you had to take it when
we were recording. No, we was not recording that. We
were were we were. We were prepping, you were prepping.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
But we do have a table for two available.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Tables, tables for teaples for two, tables for two Gemini.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
You heard you heard it from eight A m one,
Tables for two table tables, table tables for two.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Tables, papers tables, teles for two tables. Yo, what to
do with your j Gemini? I go by the name
DJ eighty M one and we are tables. We are
tables for two Gemini.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, yo, son. So today's show is gonna be celebrating
the twenty five years that is Serrato Serado.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
I remember when I first started using Solado.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
World Man I just bro I think it's been a
long journey for everyone that's been in Serato, and I'm
excited to get into the story of Serato and then
also our story too. So let me let me, let me,
let me just get off on reading. We're gonna read
some of the stuff off of their website, you know
what I mean. So let me let me. Let me
let me just open up the show with what Serato

(01:40):
has about their beginnings. So Serato the Power of Music.
Serato makes its premiere audio software for music lovers around
the world. Since launching their first product in nineteen ninety nine,
their users have grown into a community of millions of
d producers, engineers, and musicians across one hundred and ninety countries,

(02:05):
from bedroom studios to festival stages, from the unknown to
the greatest. Their mission is to deliver the best possible
experience for creating, playing, and sharing music wherever you are.
And I think that really does encapitulate what Serato is,
because I mean, I think anyone and everyone would agree

(02:28):
that Serato really changed the game when it comes to djame.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
It definitely did. Man Like for me, I love the
fact that I don't have to whole lot of records anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Bro that that in itself was the number one game changing,
you know, carrying mad crates. If you're gonna do a
five six hour set, man, you're you're looking at you,
You're like maybe ten crates of records, you know what
I mean? And I know for me that was that

(02:58):
was key. I mean, you see, I have tons of
records in my house. I got like seven thousand records
up in this place. I'm still to this day buying records.
Serato being out and being so much a part of
my DJ sets hasn't changed me buying records. I'm still
out there buying records. You know, I want to find
original copies, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Just you know.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I mean, I'm a vinyl connoisseur. I know when Serato
first came out, I was a hater. I'm gonna say, Gemini,
I was a hater.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well you was not the only one.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
You me too, Me too, because you know I was
so strong about the vinyl. Not only that, man, it's
different too, actuality. You saving a little bit of money
for the simple fact when you buying vinyl, you always
had to buy doubles, had to hat you. That is
like you needed a second copy.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think that that's something that DJs nowadays would never
even understand, right, right, They can't, like because granted, yeah,
we had like what is it like lethal weapons and
create savers and all these records where they were compilations,
and of course probably someone a DJ made a DJ
intro at it, but that was not normal. Like, you know,

(04:04):
it's kind of weird because like a lot of artists,
I think they're not doing it, but then you know,
like underground independent artists they put out songs and they
don't make an intro at it, and it's like, okay, now,
because the technology has done so far, we can just
do it on the fly now, you know. But back
in the day, it wasn't that way. You need one
copy for the instrumental, one copy.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
For the for the well was the single the single,
you know, the single has the clean, dirty instrumental, you
know what I'm saying. Some of them had the a
cappella attached to it as well.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Man, those ones that have the acapella.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Man, I love it every day, you know. And it's
not it's simple now using stamps and all that. That's
something that we're gonna get into a little bit later,
but like when like even in the group chat, we
even went through it too. Like with the acapella. You
you have an instrumental going and you dropped his acapella
is riding and ship. Then you had to drop out
the instrumental just to throwing another a cappella, I mean

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an instrumental from the acapella.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
And you had to be flipping.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, you had to flip it.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
And then after you've done with that, then you get
the double and get the song clean or dirty whichever
you prefer, like cutting into something so you could play
that song.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
And you had to be quick with that. And mind you,
these records did not have like the bpms to them, right,
so had you had already no off mind, I know
I could do it with this song and if I
got to it's a little bit faster or it's a
little slower. Some people would do the BPM thing. We
talked about that before, like you know, you could tap

(05:28):
it out and you know, or you can like you said,
you would just count them out for a minute and
it's like all right, But those are things that we
no longer.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Have to know.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Only that like me personally, what I used to do
is on the cover of the vinyl. I used to
put the BPM. It was a sticker with the BPM
on it, and then when you when I had it
in my crate, it was BPM DO, So it was
more easier to navigate through it. And suppose you know,
ninety PPM to like a hundred and fucking fifteen or something,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
So yeah, man, I feel it.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I think too. The thing that Serato made it a
lot easier was that since BPM is its own column,
you can click that button and boom, everything is BPM.
I think due to Serato it made it a lot
easier for the open format DJ to really be successful

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and be what it is nowadays, because nowadays everything is
open format and I know, like am Am was like
a big part of like that whole open format scene
and everything, but he was rocking Serado like from the beginning,
you know what I mean. And just the fact that everything,
all your genres and you're all great is just boom
right there, all BPM together. It made it so easy
to just jump so easy like oh now I'm playing this,

(06:41):
Now I'm playing this, now I'm playing that, Now I'm
playing this, you know. So, I mean, just that's why
we're just appreciating Solato in this show. You know.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's just you know, it's a bunch of pros on it. Man.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
It's like, come all, gee, you're not burning out your
grooves anymore to your vinyl. And you know you always
on your vinyl, you know where you or we start
off at, yeah, because that part is like a little
bit lower than the rest of the vinyl and shit,
you know, so it's like you're not burning off those grooves, man.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
So that's a plus within itself.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Especially for for like hip hop DJs, jugglers people in
battles like that was the main thing I do. Here's
some DJs nowadays so that they will rip a vinyl
record that they already had in the competition, because it
started to become a thing where the hisses, the oh yeah,

(07:36):
you would make that those noises kind of part of
your because you would hear those taps, you know what
I mean, And that's one thing we did lose. But
I do hear some DJs they're like, oh yeah, I
kind of want that, right of course. These are these
are old school DJs. They're like, I gotta rip that
because that became kind of like a little bit of
the seasoning of your of your of your your set,
you know. So but with Serato you no longer have

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that right, you know, even if the needle skips, you
don't really even hear it because the song just kind
of continues.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
That's that's a plus about it too as well.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Obviously in the beginning there was some dropouts, you know
what I mean, it's.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Always in the beginning. It was always in the beginning.
There's gonna be some hiccups. But you know, that's why
you get the updates and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
And we're we're talking about the very this is the
very beginning, very soda. We're gonna go through the whole story.
So this is the beginning. I know, I for sure
did not jump in. I was I was a hater
of Serato.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well for me, yeah, I didn't jump in. I remember
at the time, I was in Guitar Center actually, and
then I remember the sl box came out and I
looked into it and I was like, oh shit, you
know what I'm saying, Like, what's this all about?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh yeah, because you worked at Guitar Center.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
So so like every time a new product came in,
I was able to test it. Yeah, I was able
to mess with it because we got to set up
the demo, you know, and being the manager, you know,
I had to make sure like everything was up front
to promote the new ship that's coming out. Guess who
was always messing with it me? You know, if you know,

(09:07):
back then, I was always messing with that shit the
front row seat.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
But when I transitioned into it, I was still bringing
Vinyl and I was bringing my laptop as well, So
it's like I had to ease myself into it, you
know what I'm saying, because I was so accustomed to
the Vital I was so used to Vinyl and being
on point, and back then it was not as sharp
as it is now, if you remember, there was a

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little delay on that.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, definitely. And then and and it was really important
that you had your settings done the right way because
if you didn't have your buffer size the right way.
Many of us didn't have laptops back then, so we
didn't understand what the hell buffer side was was even meant,
we don't know anything about RAM or none of this stuff.
A lot of shit, so crazy Gemini. Let's get into
the to the next the next part of their story

(09:56):
that pitching time, Son, pitching time, and and this this
is where Serato really changed the game and they started
with this stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah it says over here.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Story began with pitching time still uh world's foremost studio
plug in for the time stretching and pitch shifting technology.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Which in loan that shit is dope broke.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, like like when you when you look into all
that shit, man, like like if you have the pitch
all the way up to like say, for instance, four
and ship and you don't have that on, it's gonna
sound real fast.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, because that was I think that was the main thing,
especially when we were playing Vinyl, that we knew we
couldn't play certain songs with certain songs because now I'm
using all the way up to the plus eight on
my turntable and now it's gonna sound like Alvin and
Chipmunks is rapping this Doctor Dre song right right, And

(10:50):
all of a sudden, Serrato game was like, wait, you
could do what was wait?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Na, It's like and it sounds all good and ship.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I remember going to clubs in Pasadena like at this time,
I was DJing a lot in old town Pasadena, and
was it I think it was muse. I think it
was music because I know it changed a bunch of
different names, but I believe it was mus at the time.
And I remember tripping out like wait, how is he
playing this song right now? Like how was he playing?
I know that's like a slower song and it Serado.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Serado man like it says here too.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
In nineteen ninety seven, Profound of Steve West was University of.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Auckland student learning to play bass guitar.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
On the side, Steve wanted to slow down complicated bass
solos without altering the pitch. Frustrated with the subper tools
available in the time, Steve set out to write an
algorithm that would do just that, and so Serado Pitching
Time was born.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
In nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Bro nineteen ninety nine. So that's what's crazy, because this
is this is pre y two k, right, you know
what I mean? This is like I mean, I know
I was. I was actually talking to mysel because him
and Manny Links were telling me like, okay, well if
you were so young when computers were coming out, like
how come you didn't do anything because you should have

(12:09):
known in high school.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
And I was like, Bro, my whole high school had
like three computers.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Like, what are you talking? All we wanted to play
was organ Trail and math muncher. Bro know, we wanted
to love the.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Pitch of time. Bro, I ain't gonna hold you. I
love the pitching time man.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
It was a definitely, it was a definitely game changer,
and it led him into the next thing, which is
the Serrado noise map. In two thousand and Steve and
AJ bring out the experiment, saying, with the idea of
controlling digital audio, now that they knew that they could
actually slow down these things, they wanted to control it

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using Vinyl. AJ had been working on a prototype of
the software that allowed you to scratch audio of a
CB with a mouse. So this is before they even
threw it on a record. He had it doing it
with the mouse. After a bit of feedback, Serato took
this idea further and soon developed the Serirato noise match,
which is the control tone that we all know, and

(13:04):
they press it onto Vinyl records for controlling the digital
audio on a turntable.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
That's that yep, it needs to be continuous, know you
know what I'm saying, And that was like the only
sound that they.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Could really use for that. I mean, that's all coded anyway.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
And if you think about it too, if you flash
back to nineteen ninety nine, this is like and I
think a lot of people don't realize like that that
are born nowadays, because you know, we're in twenty twenty
four now, like everything is just NonStop on well like
in nineteen ninety nine, and previously channels would turn off,
like it would be like three in the morning, there's

(13:39):
no more television program and it's just boo. You would
get that tone, like this tone was readily available for everyone.
They took that.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Tone you are listening to the emergency.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, you know what the TV podcast word, and they
took that and said, Yo, the case of emergency, we're
gonna put this on the record, and now it's an
emergency for everyone. Ye get your MW out and let's
like DJ in and scratch it, you know what I mean.
And then we were saying too that they no one
wanted to buy this, no, not in the beginning, because
they just wanted to sell it to someone else, like, Yo,

(14:10):
we have this idea, which a lot of college kids
do you have an idea, you have something that it
can prove someone else's product.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
And it was like nas wanted, nobody wanted, no one
wanted it.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
And then they until they took it to Sony Pictures.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Sony Pictures and said, yo, we need that ship like
yesterday and then they started working.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Look a look at look at it today.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
This is crazy, bro, bro, it would have it would
never have grown.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
And then it was they went into like the Scratch
Studio Edition as well, there it is. You know, so
this is just basically building up on on like when
it first came out, man, and you can see how
it evolved to what we have today.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, because because right now, like at this time, it's
not even something that DJs can use. Right that when
when the Scratch Studio Edition came out, that was the plug.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
It well it says it says U. Serato also created
a Scratch Studio Edition joined two thousand. This pro Towo's
plugging allowed studio engineers, producers and djson scratch any digital
sample or sound file on their computer using their existing
turntables on mouse as a controller.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Which what we that's what we're doing today.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
That's exactly what we're doing it. I mean, I'm not
scratching it with a mouse, but you know what I mean,
I guess if you really wanted to, if you really
wanted to, that's.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Like when you get the little phone that you got
those little scratch things, the apps on so you can
put on your phone.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
You can scratch on your phone. Yeah, this is wild, bro,
really it really, it really is crazy. How so far
it came so okay? And then after that you already
know yep. So two thousand and four it really changed.
Serrato partners up with Rain to launch Scratch Live. With
the sl one box, DJs could now access and perform

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their entire digital music collection using specially designed control records,
control CDs, or MIDI control. Scratch Live went on to
evolutionize the DJ industry.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Hello, and welcome to this demonstration video. We'd like to
show you a new concept that we're working on. Concept
consists of three different components, the first of which is
a normal set of turntables connected to a computer.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
And honestly, Jim, I want to know, like, do you
remember when you I mean, you were a guitar center,
so you probably were already playing with this. When did
you buy scratch live? Like when did.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
You finally blow down and get So there was just
a rotto, there was one of I remember when they
came in and they truthfully, man, people was coming in
and asking for them testing it out. And at the time,
you could put equipment on layaway per se, you know
what I'm saying. But you got a certain time.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
To get it out.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, So at that time, I said, fuck it.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
You know, I'm noticing every time I go to different
gigs that you know, this is starting to be the
standard to have.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
It was weird going to gigs, bro, and they would
ask you before, like, oh are you yeah, yeah, I
was like, nah, no, I got records.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, I remember, I remember that. I remember that.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
So then and what I did was when a batch
came in, I put one on layaway, you know, just
to have it, you know, because I was indecisive, right,
you know, I'm still stuck in my waist, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
It was a big lead, right.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
So one of my boys that I worked over there,
he was like, Hey, I want you to guess DJ
at this club spot with me, and shit, So you know,
and he was like, you got Serato and I was like,
scratch live, I think, you know, and I was like,
I was like, nah, I don't have it. And he
was like, you're still messing with Vinyl and I was like, yeah,
everybody's still messing with vibe and he was like, nah,
everybody's not messing with vinyl like now. And I was like,

(17:51):
are you serious? Are you shitn't me? So I make
a long story short. I went over there and ship
and he had it plugged in and I actually got
a laptop and I installed it and he was like,
just try it out. And I put only a couple
of songs on there, and I brung everything else with
records and.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Gee, I put that motherfucker in it.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
And I started playing some songs and shit, and I
was like okay, and then switched it up. But I
didn't like that at the time. It was like a
little lag mind you. I didn't put all the settings
and all that shit. Everything's new to me, you know,
and I'm like, fuck this man. So I grabbed one
of my vinyls and I threw it on there and
I started DJing with vinyls the rest of the night
and shit, you know. And that's when I really started

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and when I got it out, that's when I plugged it.
And at that time, I put more songs on the
laptop and I just started like gravitating to it, yeah,
you know, and and all of a sudden, boom.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I started using it like full time.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
So it was like yeah, yeah, it took some time,
but I started seeing the benefits of it, and I
was like, fuck this, I'm getting too old carrying all
these motherfuckers because we.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Had like what backbook bags with like carrying records.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
They weren't even booked back.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
These are like crates with with backpacks, right sh right, dogs,
man Like I was tired of going up steps, so
that I had to go.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
And the crazy part was you would literally have this
whole crate of records, but mind you, most of them
are two of the same record, two songs, right.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
And then usually about these singles, there's no other.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Song on the back, right, And you would never have
the song that you really wanted them. You would always
forget that one record. It was like, dog, how did
I forget that record?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
And then speaking about that, man like, after getting all that,
like with Serado, I'm gonna scratch her out live and
ship they partner up with.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
They did the White Laby Dog. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
That was crazy because Okay, before, back in the day,
before we had actual DVS software like this, you know what,
whether what whatever you're using, because I know I looked
it up and in two thousand and two, that's when
Tractor came out, So there was other people doing similar things. Now,
I know a lot of people were talking smack about

(20:09):
tractors nowadays, like, well, Tractor's kind of beefed out now,
you know what I mean. So it's a head to
head thing. And now also they got algorithm and IDJ
and all this stuff. You know what I mean. There's
multiple people doing big things with these DVS softwares. But
back then, you would literally join a record pool Jemini,
and it would be like one hundred and fifty dollars
two hundred dollars a month, and they would literally send

(20:31):
you records where you had to send back slips, tell
them if you liked it, tell them if you not,
If you played it, where you played it, did it
work they? You know what I mean? This is what
a record pool was. Serrato went ahead, and in two thousand.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
And eight, not to mention, you got to vote for
that song too.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Bro telling you, they launched White Label dot Net, a
unique system for putting digital promo only releases directly into
the hands of DJs. Files were uniquely coded solely for
use in Serado, so you couldn't burn the CD and
give it to someone, you know what I mean. So
they couldn't put it in their car. It's not gonna work,
you know what I mean. You could you probably send
it to your homie that had Serato and it's probably

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gonna work that way, but it doesn't. He could just
also just log in on Serato and go to white
label dot Net get these songs. And this was free
of charge. So if you already bought into the software,
you're already into this record pool or I mean, can
we call them record pools now? But it's like, oh
my god, this is not a record puls You're not
really getting a record. It's just a digital download. But

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this meant DJs could play out exclusive tracks within moments
of downloading them and bringing them to a whole new
meaning for the term of club only use. White Label
dot Net was decommissioned in twenty eighteen, so it just
barely went out. It's like six years gone. But it

(21:47):
really did change what we were doing because I remember
it'd be like, hey, dog, did you get wheld? You
get that?

Speaker 1 (21:52):
I got it on White Label dot Net because it
like it wasn't just hip hop.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
They had multi genres everything. This was just labels like, Yo,
get that out there, just get out.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Email to what came out doing and ship, Yeah, Dog, like.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
White Label dot Net was was was hot, Bro, that
was hot.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
We definitely turning our age bro old school.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Oh yeah, hey, we were here for all of it,
you know what I mean. We were here for all
of it. And previously, Bro, I'm telling my age. Bro,
look at my house. I got VHS tapes and records and.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah yeah, you could definitely be like, yo, Yo, is
that eight track right there? Bro?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Bro, I'm telling you, And you know what a track
was one of one of the originators in there. Bro.
Like everyone we saw the videos of a track, like
doing the cuts that Nam he was like, Yo, he's
on Serado Like it's like crazy craziness, just just crazy, Bro.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
You're speaking about that. Man.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Let's get into this. Uh, let's pay some bills. Let's
see what's up with this h mercery.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Let's get into a commercial break. When we get back,
we're gonna we're gonna get a little bit more into
the history. I haven't even told you how I got
into it, because still at this time two thousand and eight,
I'm still hating we got we gotta hear when we
come back.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I'm telling you right, yo, So we're back, Yes we are.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
And we were talking twenty five years of Serrato tables
for two DJ Gemini.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, I want to talk about this itch though.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Man, I'm telling you you know, because yeah, I remember
when all this ship was coming out. I'm replaying everything
right now.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Bro, it's walking down memory all right now.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Bro, Yo, it is crazy. Man, you're so right here.
Maybe just read it out to you man for the itch.
While Sado Scratch had taken off, Uh, they will still
inherent problems with your everyday DJ setup, like definitely the
quality in house turntables and all that stuff. What it
says here Serato turning and developing all new all in

(23:37):
one DJ combat controller systems where you could plug and
play and start DJing straight out you of the box,
which you know what the box is. In January two
thousand and eight, Scratch Itch launch with its first supported
hardware controller, the vest tax VCI three hundred. You remember
that shit, bro, I remember ya, I remember you.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
You. I remember seeing some shit like that back then, Bro.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
So vests ruled the early two thousands, Bro, and when
this came out, it was like, I don't have to
hook up a box anymore. There was no more Serato
boxes nowadays, no one even uses.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
It goes right there is directly added to it.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, like it was just in there. You hook a
USB up and it hooked up to your laptop and
now you could just instantly play. I just watched the
video I had sent it to you from Homie, Like
that was like the video from back then and he's
talking about it like this is the best thing in life,
and I'm looking at this control like that shit is ugly.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
It was like all steals some shit.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I mean, which is good. I mean it was it
was solidly made and everything. But this really does take
us back to the fact that like this is that
transition period between VESTECHT and Rain because Rain really dominated
the mixers that we were U Pioneer DJ was out there,

(25:01):
so I'm not going to say that Pioneer wasn't around
or anything, but for as far as like we were
scratching and we wanted, we wanted whatever Hubert was on,
you know what I mean. And Hubert was rocking vest Text.
We wanted vest Text. And here now we had something
that was Serrato Itch installed already. It was pretty cool.

(25:22):
I personally didn't get one of these. I was still
rocking the box I think I had. I think I
might have had like O five pro. I think I
think we think in six at this time. Was yeah, well, okay,
because because right after this time I was so I
was like the eqs on them and ship like that.

(25:42):
You had that's the five, the O five like upgrade
one though. Yeah, And I because okay, at this time
two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, I was DJing.
I was already. I was already with iHeart Radio. So
when I was out at iHeartRadio, I got hired to
uh rock pre out there with Petro some money. It was.
It was good times before that. But I was doing

(26:05):
pregame for the Lakers out in Star Plaza and like
literally I only had the DJ an hour, but I
didn't know what I was gonna play. I would rock
four crates of records out there, had my Vestex six.
I didn't have a Serado box nothing, and everyone always
would make fun of me, like the engineer for the
show will and this.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Is how you first started converting, right, Yeah, so this
is this is how before I had my box.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
They would always make fun of me, like yo, son,
Like it would always tell me like, oh, you're gonna
play Soza Mischief out here today? Like but it was
like yeah, cause I'm well, yeah, you know, I'm gonna
play some Sosa Mischief. I wanna play some Chief Rocket,
you know what I mean. I was like, Yo, we
we being hip hop out here, you know what I mean?
It would be dope like. But I would also have
like my party breaks, like I said, the lethal weapons
and all those you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
AB eight records all those too, because it's.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
We're having a good time, you know, and I'm out
here DJing. But I had like four crates sometimes five
crates of records. I only got a DJ for forty
five minutes. I don't know what I'm gonna play because
you know, I don't want every set to be like
the same and they were making fun of me, making
fun of me at the radio station. I like, because
we're out in the sun a lot. I already had
a fifty dollars a month budget right to replace myno

(27:15):
that got warped, you know, because and they came to
me and told me, they were like, hey, we feel
bad that one got warped. That one got warped. So
then one day I went and we had we had
a budget, and I and I think you were working
over there at Guitar Center. And I hit up Rocky
because I was my homie from high school. And I
told Rocky, I said, hey, my boss hit me up.

(27:36):
I told him that I got a guy in guitar Center.
He's got a budget. He wants to know we need
to get Yeah, that's that's so I told him, I
need to get four speakers. I need to get four speakers, stands.
I need to get four xlmember that day. I need
to buy a wire imber that day. And I remember
Rocky was like, yeah, yeah, what else you want? What?

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I remember what?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Because you was running around the whole fucking department like
grabbing ship left around.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I'm like, yo, what's good son?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
And then I told him, and I don't know how,
but I also need to get Serado in there, and
then I need to make this work. And he was like,
what you need?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
You remember that? He was like what you remember? What?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
What?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (28:16):
What?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Who? What are they buying Serato for? And I said, well,
they're buying it for me, but it has to fit
this budget, right.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
And he was like, oh, dog, yeah, I remember he was.
He was qushing the numbers.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, bro, And and he was like, well, dog, I
thought you guys wanted like this. I said, I don't.
He my boss said he don't care what kind of
speakers they are, as long as they're going to rock.
Like it does not have to be MACKI jbl like
they can be some other brand, but like, we need
to make this work. Bro.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Fucking Rocky was online. He was grabbing all kinds of
prices some price match.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
I remember that ship and then when he grabbed that
ship because we didn't have we had that ship locked
up in the back, you know, we didn't have it
on the floor. Yeah, and he went back there. He
came back and I was like, Yo, you you selling
that right now?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Son? He was like yeah, And then he put.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
He had like a little like an area with all
kinds of equipment. I was like, yo, he was like, yeah,
my homie, you just gotta he got a budget and ship.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
And I was like yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
He was like, yeah, he works for the station and
ship and he's he's doing some kind of street team ship,
so he needs all this equipment. And I'm like, that's
all right, all right, that's what he said. Yo, you
should mean, man, he's cool people. It's one of my
my peoples. And that was that was when we first met.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, so shout shout out to A M five seventy
k l A c l A Sports and one of
the Dodgers a lot of stuff and I did a
whole bunch of stuff with them, so you know, sho
shout out to them. Uh Dave, Gary Kyane. He's annosshole.
But hey, he's cool though, because he made this happen
at that time. He was cool at that time. He
was cool. But man, so like, I mean that that's
how I got into a into Serado and like it

(29:43):
was cool because I know it was. It was. It
was weird for me, Jim because going from that sit
years ago. Yeah, going from like always having the records
to like all right, and I was like a purist, like, no,
fuck that shit, that's fucking cheating. No, no way, no how,

(30:03):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Buying that thing.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Think of that buying it because look, this was the
thing I remember pre Serrado getting gigs just because I
had the records, not saying that I wasn't a good
DJ and I wasn't like doing my thing, you know,
but that was the thing I would get booked because
people knew. I stayed on top of it.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I was at World Records like every other week, week,
every week and a half. I was at World Records
here in the Hammer when it was up, you know
what I mean, didn't matter Exodus Records. I was going
everywhere DMC and Holly. I was going taking the bus
to DMC in Hollywood when I was a sophomore in
high school, already buying records like I had to have
the deep House records.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
And you know what I mean. And it was like
you should go to Baits Baits.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Where was that at New York? Oh, New York, shout
out to n Y.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, I don't know. That was that was way back, bro.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
That was on Delancey Street on Lower East Side Manhattan,
Delancey Street, and it was right there on a major street, bro,
and you walk in and it's real long. It was
like it's not why and you got nothing but vinyl
all from the front to back. And then you got
where the DJ equipment was at, and you got somebody
spinning records and if you request, yo, can I hear

(31:13):
this song? They pulled the record, they played the song
for you, and shit, everybody. I remember I met Craig
mackin there. Oh it's just out the blue. I was
there just shopping for records and shit. And because back then,
singles was like, I want to say, like five bucks.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I think they were like Fournet.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, yeah, they were around there.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
And ship which suck, bro, because it's like fourteen dollars.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah back then, back then, so it's crazy. And I
used to get those ships and yo. He one day
he just walked in, bro, and I was like, oh shit,
And did you look at him and go wow? Nah?
He was actually pretty cool man. He was with some
people's and ship man. But I was young man, you know,
fucking I spun some of his records and shit, what

(31:56):
I should have done was fucking brought one of his
records over there and have him.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Sign it R P CRAI.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, yeah right p bro. But yeah man, yeah good
memories man.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah yeah, super crazy. So yeah, if you ever caught
me out there at start Plaza, you saw me with
some vinyl. Hey, we made the switch. And then the
crazy thing was too. Remember there's there's no even though
that controller had already come out. And then I think
the Pioneer came out right after it too. There was

(32:28):
what was it that was the Pioneer? I wrote it
down to the d G J s X that one
came out and that had the actual pads on it,
and like dog crazy crazy, you know what I mean?
Like everything started changing right now.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Well, Ship, you gotta you gotta follow the technology.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Bro, you kind of do you get left, you get
left in the dust. You got you gotta embrace.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
It doesn't stop for you.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Man, you know, just like you know you definitely because
everything nowadays is.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
What we got now.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Bro. Imagine, imagine we never we never embraced the spooner
of the fork and we're just eating with knives still,
you know what I'm saying, Like come on, come on,
come on, yeah, well Ship next chapter in Their In
Their Their Life was uh was the video sl Now
this launched in two thousand and eight, and it was

(33:24):
soon to be just Serrato video. But now DJ's had
a simple, user friendly way to play digital video files
just as they would digital music files. Now, I remember
when this ship first came out, when it came out.
The first time I seen it was that was at
the Top Center Battle and you had Shorty out there
two thousand and nine, Bro, Bro, two thousand and nine.

(33:45):
I will never forget it because obviously Shorty's got some juggles.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah. Yeah, it was the Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan's Michael.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
He was just doing the doing the the going up
and think.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
How she was flipping it. I remember, No, that was dope.
That was dope. While she was flipping it, I didn't
know where to look.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm like, do I look at her? Do I look
at Michael Jordan on the screen? Like, I was like, dude,
what shout out to?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Like Maine right now? Shot? You know, all the real
ones know who Mike May is.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Man.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Mike May was the one that hooked me up with
a lot of stuff back then. Man, And when he retired,
he retired from Rain. But I remember when I called
him up and I says, Yo, Mike, I says, I
need a favorite man. And I sent him a proposal
and ship and he was like, oh, so you're doing
You're doing the the Guitar Center battles and the Guitar
Center Battle and I was like, yeah, and I'm looking

(34:33):
for sponsors. And you know, man, the first person I
thought was you. You know, and every wind up turning out.
We had rad Bull sponsoring, We had Mike may He
from Rain sponsoring. He gave us the mixer, he gave
us so much shit. We had Odyssey sponsoring us, We
had you know it just it was so much fucking
sponsors came through for that, bro. And uh and the judges.

(34:54):
Man had qualified judges judging the battle too as well.
You know, I had a host and also uh, my
boy Jay Man, Yo, he fucking he fucking was doing
it with me and ship man and yo, man, it's
it's an experience, man, for all this ship to come
out and to see that ship with Shorty she came out,
she was using she was basically fucking juggling the video. Yeah,

(35:17):
and in that part that that you're talking about, right there.
A lot of people still remembers that because that was
that was the first that was.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
That was like the first look bro like I never like, bro,
I ain't never seen no ship like that before.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Man, I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I don't even like Michael Jordan, but that is to yo.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, yeah, when she was juggling that ship. I think
I still have a video of that, BROB gotta look
for it.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
It's probably so pixelated.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Oh you already know, you already know.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
We took it on your noe kid.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, it's pixelated like a motherfucker, man.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
But yeah, it's a lot. We had what shorty, we
had a husband fast uh. Then we also had Tony
g was was one of the judges as well.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
And we said it a million times on the show.
But Atronics won the won the battles.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Tronics won the battle.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, he took it.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
He took that battle. Yeah, man, Yeah, so it was
it was pretty dope. It was a good outcome even
though it was raining that day.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
I'm not that ship. It was raining, bro.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
And and and then uh what the Fox Sports sponsored
to us?

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well, I remember you were telling me. You were like, Bro,
what if we built the stage outside and then it
was like no dog, we were gone.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
But the thing is too with that, there's a story
behind that. We was about to have that whole parking
lot like clear, we don't have to like, but the
thing is, we had to get permission from the city.
So we had to make sure that we had permission
from the city. So we reached out. We tried to
do that ship, but they was like hell to the no,
so we had no choice but to do it. But
it was a blessing to the skies because it rained anyway.

(36:43):
That yeah, yeah, and it was hard as fuck. It
was raining hard, bro. So yeah, I remember too.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I remember that was the That was the first time
that I seen those the red bull DJ both things.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Oh yeah, yeah. They gave us the booth. They gave
us the booth and all that ship.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
We had red Buo gold girls walking around handing.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Out the drinks.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
We had giveaways. Man and Ship. The host of Animal
and Ship he yea, his name is Animal. Yeah, because
he's nutty and he knows how to host. You there
you go, you know, giv him it away, shouting the
sponsors out.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Man.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
We had I think it was like fucking six thousand
dollars worth for fucking uh prizes.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
And the audio the audio center was packed. Oh yeah,
yeah it was. It was being guitar center was yeah,
yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
It was front to back and you know it's the
turnout was just great, bro, it was great man. And Yo,
Tables for two is going to be doing something.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Like that next.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Bro. I'm telling you, we got set some goals over here.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, we go write it out that white board of
yours being town.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
You know you better start writing that proposal.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Man, Yo, you already know. Let's do it. Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
You're speaking of battles. Hold on before we go any further,
because we're talking about battles Yemen. You're in the battle
right now, Yes I am, and TikTok TikTok tik. I
think they're scared of you right now.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
It's funny, man, because I was like, Yo, it's just
battle going on this ship. They keep on hitting me up. No, man,
I don't think I'm like this ship. And then Idian
went out the blue. He's like, son, you better go
do that ship. Who cares go do? Just do that ship?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
And I'm like, I'm like, you think I should do
that ship? I said, but your son is like, fuck
that ship.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Do that ship for as much ship as I always
give you for being on tickets because I'm not on TikTok,
you know. But like I'm like, dog, I make fun
of you, like, and you still do your thing. Dog.
You got all these followers and all this fucking ship,
you know what I mean. And that's dope. So it's like, dog,
go representing this damn battle. You better go get your
ass over there. You gotta win this damn battle.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah. So that so that I'm still undecisive and ship,
and then.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
All of a sudden, I'm just scrolling through my ship
and then like it lets me know, it's notification that
comes up on my phone.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Man.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
It was like, just go in and it says it
says tryouts the battle, tryouts and ship.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
I'm like tryouts and ship.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
I was like, nah, I don't think so next you know,
you know how you have those little angels and devil
on the east side, You're shit that motherfucker was you
one one was the devil when one was an angel
on one side and ship man the one on the
other side. Was like, well, you know, if you feel
like you need to practice more on the other side was.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Like, nah, fuck that shit stuff.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Be the bitch, get that shit. I was. I was
hoping it was more of like like the devil comes
up and it's me and I'm like, Yo, Gemini, you
better fucking go do this ship right now. And then
all of a sudden poof another devil pups up. Yeah.
I kicked that angel in the ass. You better fucking
go do it, Jemini.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
My lord is saviors God, you.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Gotta get you better get out there and get your.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Say ay, so so you know, I said fuck it.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
And there was a group I think it was like
sixteen DJs that was doing the tryouts and ship and
I was like I just went in there and they
was like anybody else want to come up and all
that stuff. And I was like, man, I come up
and they was like, oh, Gemini said he's gonna come up.
And then one person was like yo, so what do
we get and ship? And I was like I was like, man,

(40:01):
fuck what did we get? I just want to bring it,
That's what I said, Like all Joseph side, I said, fuck,
I just want to bring it. And then and then
they started laughing and ship, oh you they said they figured, oh,
you're talking all this, ship, then come up here, let's
see what's good, you know. So I go up there
and I already put something together and ship man, and
you're just practicing.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
And then I killed it.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Bro, I fucking killed it, and and like the faces
on the on their face like just to look. They
was like, oh, yeah, he's part of this battle, you know.
So now let's fast forward and ship. I won the
second round. I won the first round, and I wun
I won the second round. I got uh, I think
I got three, three or four more rounds to go,

(40:42):
you know what I'm saying. And it's just like week
two week, week two week, every Tuesday, every Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
It's called DJ's in the mix, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
It's per se like you know, you're gonna add a
little trick mixing because you know, blends and but you
get challenges and ship so you got complete challenges. You
could do whatever you want to do, but you got
to complete the challenges. So like for instance, I did
I did one week was country and pop from the
eighties and nineties, all right, And you can flip it
however you want to flip it, you know, what I'm saying.

(41:13):
So I did that, you stand out from everybody and ship,
you know, and then you didn't play no Beyonce right,
not no Beyonce cool, you know. And then the last
week was fucking what was it?

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Em?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
It was eight M and and you had to flip it.
You had to flip the eight m however you want
to do some crazy ship. I did that too. But
the way I started off I started off with it
was so everybody just just played the song and that's
all they did.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
They want to hear a story, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
So when they just played the song, it's just like
a you know, they mixing, and they didn't doing what
they're doing.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
But I went in with a sample with the purge.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Okay, little alarm, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Don't.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
The dude is gonna be shutting it, gets into it.
But I cut it short because I only got three minutes.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeeah. Okay, So I thought you were saying it was
longer than that.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I was like, yeah, no, no, no, yeah, I got
three minutes. I got three minutes. You're talking about the
second battle that I joined?

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Oh okay, three minutes, yeah, three minutes.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
The second battle is that that's ten minutes. Yeah, I'm
notes three minutes is good.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
So I do.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Yeah, yeah, I do three minutes. And I went in.
I was cutting some stuff over here. I did some
a cappellas I I you know, did a little little
thing here and there, and then I came out with
the purge again, saying that no help is gonna come
to you till seven.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
In the morning, and then when it drops. You know, real.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
DJs talk with dance ship. You know, there it is,
but it all fits in and ship. You know, don't
get me wrong, there's a lot of good. There's a
lot of a lot of DJ's doing the thing. You
know what I'm saying. It's just I'm I'm I'm like,
fuck it. If I'm in this ship, I might as
well just go full fledged. Yeah of course, talk come
on like, I don't care. I'm just gonna do me
like real ship like they do. Tell me some ship

(43:03):
what they they want more of, and this, that and
the third.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
But I'm still gonna do me.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
But then I mean, judges, critique you no matter.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
But yeah, I'm still gonna do if it sounds good
to me, and I say, yeah, hell yeah, I'm gonna
use this ship.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
I'm just gonna do me. I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Fuck it, yeah, you know, as long as I follow
the I get the back the challenge out the way,
I'm gonna do me. And I think I think everybody
should do that, should you know what I'm saying, because
I feel that the way I'm bringing it, I should.
I should be able to like not only that, it's
bettering me too as well, because I'm not really that

(43:37):
person to go into battles or anything like that. Yeah,
but it's a learning experience. So it's just getting my
feet wet, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
And I would say that's the that's the biggest part
about I guess, the turning people from from getting in
battles like they're not used to u the critique or
like putting themselves out there like that, and once you've
done it, it's like, oh okay, cool, I could do this.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Yeah it's crazy though, but it's like save So I
got the challenge. I got the challenge today, and so
I got to Tuesday to have something to put together.
I can't mention the challenge or anything like that because
you don't want nobody knowing the challenging ship. Yeah, but
it's like it's like, okay, I don't know how to

(44:21):
do that on my mixing yet, but you know what,
let me look it up. So I looked it up
and now I'm doing it, and I'm like, so it's
making everything much more better.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
You need is a spark.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
It was like, I'm like, oh, this is how you
use this ship. This is okay. So now it's it's
opening and spanning. Now is bringing that love that I
had back then? It's like it's right there. So now
I got the fuel and you're and you're doing this
in Serado, right, I'm doing this ship in Serado.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Bro. There it is.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
It goes down to what what I'm telling you? What
were you talking about?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
We got we got the dj intro.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah, look at that ship speaking about it, and it
says over here that like, as a sfessional digital DJing grew,
so too did the demand for entry level software. In
September twenty eleven, Serrato dj Intro was born. So that
this one right here, excuse me.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
My bad.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
It's magical.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
It was magical.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
It was magical, and I think honestly these two kind
of go together. Okay, So the next one. In twenty twelve,
Serado launched Serrado DJ, the evolution to Serrado Scratch Live
and Itch in conjunction with the pioneer DJ SX, which
I was telling you a little bit earlier. This is
Serado's first step into the unique piece of software across

(45:39):
the wide spectrum of all products. So even though that
pioneer mixer was the first one to actually now have
this Serrato DJ in it, now they just did away
with the box and they multiple mixers were all coming out,
so both both the DJ without the DJ intro, without Itch,
without Scratch Live, we would not then get into actual

(46:02):
Soerado DJ. No box necessary. It's in your mix. Everything
is now plug and play. And that's why you're doing
the battles too, even when I was doing the tweak
music tips battle too. Like it's one of those things
that the things that I was doing in those routines
I would never be able to do without a software
like Serato. You know what I mean, Because I know

(46:24):
a lot of times people look back at a lot
of the old all Vinyl competition battles for DMC right
and they're like, damn, where where the hell did that
fee get that record? Where the hell to get that record?
But a lot of people don't know Craze was already
pressing his own his own vinyl, you know what I mean.
He was That's how he had his things set up,
you know what I mean. And that's what DJs would

(46:45):
have to do. You would have to actually make it,
eq it, get it pressed on vinyl? Did it come
out right? Can I do my routine right? And nowadays,
instead of doing that, you can actually get in whatever
doll you want to use and make your routine, throw
it in serado, you have your right, you have your
left bing bang, and you're you're in there, you know

(47:06):
what I mean, and being able to uh because a
lot of times with the box, because when you had
the box Gemini, there was a lot of like RCA
plugging in and the RCA plugging out, and then like
your r c A jacks would mess up, your RCAs
would mess up. You're like, we haven't even had these
r no, but just the regular RCAs because remember you

(47:27):
had to have the RCAs in and then the RCAs
out to your mixer.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
But the thing is that we didn't have that we
should have had was the power supply.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Oh yeah, that was so we never used I never
used the power supply.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
That was so separated that that was so that that
box won't turn off when when you transfer laptops.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
And that that that's another thing too. Serato started coming
out with a bunch of limited releases, like you had
some you had some of the limited releases, right, would
have the tone on one side and then would have
actual tracks on the shops.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
The tone tone. He always blessed me with, you know, diddy,
he blessed me with with the patches and all that stuff,
all the plugins.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I mean, m hm, you know, And I remember I
sent you a picture because I know I had just
found one of the Deaf Jam twentieth anniversary ones, remember
and had like the Children's story on one side. Think
it had like the d MX uhh, y'all gonna make.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Me lose my mind here in here.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
So like I mean, you still, even at this point,
you still had to have some kind of vinyl because
you're not the only DJ at the club. You gotta
unplug this box, and you gotta switch the l You
gotta switch the vinyls so that the next person could
switch the laptop.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
In you know, what I mean, and and.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
So so we did that.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
We did that ship a lot, bro.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
We did that, did I think because of that that's
why you and I started doing the four turntable set,
because then we didn't even need to worry about it.
You just go, hey, he's gonna get on messige or
what side do you want? Which mixer do you want?
Because then it turns which actually did you know what
I mean? Because it was like which mixture do you
want to get? All right, he wants to use your
mixture geymnin oh he wants to use my higgit over
here like that. That was the thing.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Yeah, that's that like Refuse too. When Fuse came down,
it was I think it was my birthday bash. Yeah,
Fuse came down and he h yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
That's what he did. I was like, yeah, which one
you go on? And he was like, I'm going on
this one. I was like, cool, had lo your business?

Speaker 3 (49:21):
You know, Valley used to come Volato, he used to
come down.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
You know, he go on and he choose which one
he wants to go on?

Speaker 3 (49:30):
So yeah, yeah, that's pretty dope, man, Like I guesst
DJ come through and then could they have the option
you know. He feels as comfortable as you want to be,
you know. So it's not like our equipment was was
whack because we have all good ship.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Oh yeah yeah, but it was just Okay, what side
do you want to be on? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, sold up. I remember one time I was DJing
in Hollywood and just Incredible was coming in after me.
I started, and he was like, what are we going
to do with our Serado box though? And I was like,
oh yeah, I'm not leaving my box here, and he
was like, well, I don't even want a DJ on
your box.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
And I was like, well, what the hell are we
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (50:06):
And then the bar was like, just turn the music off,
and both me and him looked at it. Look, we're
not turning the music off.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
What the fuck? Right?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
So what we ended up doing and I told him this,
I was like, all right, I'm going to play a
song on the left side. You hook up your Serado
box to your laptop, and then you put it on
on the on the right on the right side. I'm
on the I was already on the left side, so
I'm gonna unplug my RCAs and then plug just your
right side in and then you mix in and then

(50:34):
he did that, and then I was like, Okay, now
I'm gonna unplug mine and then beat Now your box
is there and my box is here, and it was
like that that's so complicated to do at a club
when the club is cracking, like.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Like like multiples now yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
And it makes it so much easier. It makes it
so much easier having the double the double plugs like
that's like and that that's Serrato really listening to what
DJs are telling them, you know what I mean, and saying, hey,
we should add this feature.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
When they put that beta out, Bro, you doing all
these djss on there and we're like, yo, sending that feedback.
Yeah they really listened. Oh yeah, they're listening. And then
then we got we got what that the Serado Remote, Bro,
Sarado Remote, shit happening. Like twenty thirteen, also, Sol Serado
launched his first official app for ipadd Serader Remote and Accessory,
allowing dj to control certain Serado DJ features without touching

(51:23):
a laptop.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Bro. Bro, I remember being at Rude Doog's and then
I walked away because I had already known that I
set it up right, and I had it on my
phone and I walked away from the bar at like
to the bar because you were getting as drinks. And
then you were like, Yo, Son, what are you doing? Son?
And I was like, look, dog, I'm gonna start the
song over here. You were like, Yo, how the fuck

(51:46):
did you just do that?

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I was like, Yo, who the fuck is DJ? And Son?
Why you know the son?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
And then I was like, look, look, I'll even press
the sample button. And it was like, you were like, Son, what.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Are you doing?

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Just go back up there?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
I got the drink? Yo?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
That ship right there is wow, man, fucking yo, Yo,
how much you charged for that night? Eight hundred and
seventy five dollars to you just sit in the VIP rooms?

Speaker 1 (52:10):
The best songs on your phone?

Speaker 2 (52:12):
So funny, so funny. This. This is something right here too. This,
I guess this came out not too long after too.
This is twenty sixteen Sorado Pyro. I didn't really I
didn't really use this, and honestly, Jim and I didn't
even know this was a thing. I didn't know this
was a thing. But in twenty sixteen, Sorato harnessed the
power of pitching time for its first foray into the

(52:32):
consumer market and use Serrato Piro, a free iOS app
that mixes any two songs together without skipping a beat.
I didn't know they had something like that.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah, I didn't know that either. Son. I was like,
what's Toronto Pylo? And I read that and I was like, Yo,
what your Pyro taking all the DJ's.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Robus Son and I was like, yo, I didn't like
that's that's that's Robo Sink right there as Robo Sink.
I know I did. I've been watching that. It's getting
kind of pop popular where people are making playlist on
on Spotify where you the songs like auto when they

(53:12):
when one song ends and one song starts. It's like
a seamless like transition blend that they do and then
they do like little reaction videos and I'm like, yo,
why is that popular?

Speaker 1 (53:23):
But like hearing like something like this, we're like, Yo,
this would like mix.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I mean, dude, like that, I kind of want it.
Bro from when I do weddings, like the whole like
the whole beginning part, Like I'm because I'm not playing
the music in the video. I'm said in the playlist
and that thing is doing the whole dinner music. Bro,
I'm not mixing songs to song during dinner, but like
something like this would be like like key, I think
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
I think I think it would definitely work for a wedding.
You know what I mean? Because you know.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
But yeah, we take a break, bro, all right, let's
take another break when we When we come back, there's
still a few more things in GEM And I guess
what I did get my hands on Appy of the
twenty fifth anniversary.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah, I'm mad about that. Bro.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Hey, dog, I read I read the DM too. Don't
think I haven't read that d M.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
When we get back before the show's open, we're gonna
open and we're gonna see what color I got.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Get this commercial play, bro, let's get it bang bang
yo eightiot one.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
We are back, Bro, we are back, and we were
talking Serato twenty five.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Yes, sir, we are. We are We're into uh what
we left?

Speaker 3 (54:25):
I think we're into Serato sample now, Joe Oh that
Srirato sample?

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Actually this is pretty dope as well.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Man.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
It came out in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
So Serado continue comfortable circle and return in a diverse
world of music production with Serado sample. They hate a
high quality sample plugging, allowing producers to fine chop time
stretch when key shift the samples while retaining studio grade sound,
all using the power of pitch and time.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
It all goes back to pitching times. Yeah, it all
goes back to the pitching time. None of this will
be impossible without the original invention of the pitching time.
And that that just shows how Serato sticks by.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Their roots, you know what I mean, which always Gemini.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
They've always NonStop just been about the DJs, what DJs want,
what we crave, what we need to just keep us
in depth with with what we do. Because Gemini there's
a lot of production that goes behind DJs. I understand
that some DJs don't get into production and then you
know they don't do battles, but you know, you don't
need production just to be in battles. Sometimes that little

(55:33):
bit of production on a track, if it's making your
own edit. Because they also have Serado Flip. I believe
around this time too, that's when like Soerado Flip was
coming out, and like with Serado Flip, what is it
allows you to do? I think you can use up
to like six different keypads to make your own instrumental
or your own version of the song instantly, you know

(55:53):
what I mean. And once you have that preset, it's like, man,
that sets you apart. You have something that other DJs
don't have, you know what I mean, And that's what's
going to set you apart at your club gigs, at
your wedding gigs, at whatever gig you have. You want
to sound different when we're all playing the same things.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Well, I'll tell you this much.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Man, All this technology that is out and you're still
stuck in the vinyl ages, you're missing out on a
whole lot.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
And I do think that you know, for for for
the vinyl connoisseurs, like you guys have your place too,
because I think it is dope when I hear like,
oh so and so is doing an all vinyl set, right, No,
it is definitely dope.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
And actually actually speaking man that that's probably one thing
that I want to bring to this battle too, Like
in one of my sets in the battle, just like
just bring out the vinyl.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Something like, oh shit, did you just do that on
real record?

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Yeah, Like bring out the vinyl, bro because it's different challenges.
So if it's if it could fit like I can't
say that the challenge but still, but you know it's like, say,
for instance, I gotta do tone play and some ship.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
It's going to be different on vinyl than it is
going to be on like polls, you know, MP three
song digital.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah, because you won't be able to use the C pads,
you won't be able to use pitching time, won't be
able to use any of the things that we're you
have so accustomed.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
To that, right, You're gonna have to use the pitch.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
That's like no, that's like me telling Okay, the challenges walk,
but you can't use your legs, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah,
that's that's how. That's how it's really. Serrado is just
so ingrained in what we do, DVS software, software as
a whole. It's just crazy. It's opened up so many
new avenues and.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Yeah, it's just it's just just keeps on getting. It's dope.
It's just dope, like Yato DJ Pro, Serado DJ Light.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Yeah. Twenty eighteen, Serado's flagship products, Serado DJ and Serado
DJ Intro became Serado DJ Pro and Serado DJ Light
DJs can now mix two tracks together with just their
laptop right out of the earphone plug. Gemini, that's how
you do it and have limiteds uh have a limitless
music library and crisp audio resolution interface. So the first

(58:02):
time I used Serrado DJ Light, I bought the DJ
to go, so I got that little, the little, the
little one, you know, because I see I see everyone
making these badass routines with it. I'm like, yo, can
you really do it? I'm gonna tell you this, Gemini,
I did not practice a lot, so you're not gonna
see me really using it. But dynamics bro gets off

(58:23):
on airplanes doing his little things in parks, like with
a little tiny little thing, you know what I mean.
I'm like the little wheels, and.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
He's on a level I'm like, yeah, yeah, he's just
like it is hot sex one dude that I know
that he could touch any controller and flip it.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Bro, dog, it's hot son.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
He's a cool person being Oh he's a cool person
every time. Now he's always showing love.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah, yeah, he's a dope dude. So you know, shout
out to him for doing everything that he does. And
then okay, so recently I was just watching the video
and I've already like if I practiced Little Man and
stuff with with the just the internal software, you know,
just like because you can use the pitch control and
all that stuff get things on beat, and I stay
away from the seat button. That's why I said, you
use pitch control and you just light it up and down,

(59:10):
you know. But he was talking about he was at
a wedding and he had the rain one and for
some reason, I guess he had a glitch on his
system where the platters stop moving and it wouldn't move
at all.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
And then because of that, it wouldn't let him play
any songs.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
And He's at a wedding gig, and I was like, Yo,
what the hell does this food do? So what he
ended up doing was he went out of his earphone
jack to his speakers and then he had to mix
the whole wedding like that because with Serato DJ Pro
you can actually go side to side and you can
bring the levels down and you could still mix. So

(59:49):
he ended up having to do the whole wedding like that.
So for DJs out there that needs some kind of
like Savior Sororato DJ Pro, they got.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
You now, Yeah, I'll be finding myself, like messing with
different blends and ship without my turntaments and everything, just
just putting them together.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I'm like, oh, this shit sounds pretty dope.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
And it doesn't matter where you're at.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
No, it doesn't matter where you're on a plane going
to your gig or whether you're in a clab cab
going to your gig.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
You you could come up with some ship.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Yeah, and remember remember DJs, when you're serrated, when you're
you're not hooked up to any kind of interface box
or or mixer. Always analyze your files. Yeah, do you
only do that when when you're not playing it? Analyze
your files plus is a must.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Man. Don't wait to the gig, don't. I've seen that before.
Bro analyze this. It says fifteen hours.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Like, Bro, you got to analyze your tracks.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Like, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Don't just go up there and think it's they're going
to work peachy for you, because it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Yeah, you know, because because you know, getting your b
grids and all that stuff right, I mean it might
not be one hundred percent right, you might have to
do some of them over again, but I mean as
long as you analyze them at least your keys are
going to be there, Your bpms are most likely to
be right, like, just at least do that, you know,
because you just stay a little bit on point with
that when it comes to that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Yo. Yeah, it's just evolving, bro, Yeah, evolvement.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I mean, the tools are there, you just got to
use them properly, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Don't wait till the gig.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, don't don't be doing things that you're gig. Some people,
some people get actually get scared. I'm gonna bring this
up right now because something that I know. Okay, so
I use the Rain seventy one, all right, so I'm
still friends? Is seventy one?

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
What's called? That's your mix?

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I know? Hold on?

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
This is what is that? Dogs? How you're not going
to touch every day?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I use the Rain sixty two. I was like, seventy one?

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
What the fuck is the seventy one? You gotta look
at that shit?

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Is there a sticker on it that says seventy one Sunday?

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Because it sounded weird when I said it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
I was like weird too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I was thinking in my head like wait, hold on,
so I use the Rain sixty two.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
And then also I have a MacBook twenty fourteen, So
I'm a little dated. So I'm not I'm not on
everyone's page when it comes to using stems, and you know,
a lot of times people get scared because they're like, yo, son,
is your is your your laptop?

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Lapp, we gonna do that gig.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I did have some problems, I believe at Lotus's party.
For some reason, it hooked up, but it wouldn't load
any tracks. And that was the first time that I
ever had that. And I think he had an S eleven,
which is even more weird because S eleven is like older,
So I don't I don't know what the hell was
going on with that why it didn't work, but it
didn't want to work. But so anyone that is using

(01:02:29):
a sixty two and older mixer, like I do what
I do. So I rocked Sorato two point five point
five at my house. And then if I go to
a gig and I'm using a Rain one or a
Rev seven or any of the s S seven or
S nine, I switched over to the Rain the Sorato

(01:02:51):
DJ Pro two point pot two point five point twelve. Yeah,
I know, So I know everyone's over here on like
two point three point two just came out. I believe,
you know, And that's what that's what I do as
my loophole. So I've been at gigs before and then
I'll be downloaded, like switching myself.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
We're like, oh Damn'm gonna be on the rain wall.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
I forgot to do this, and I swear the looks
I get on people say what the hell are you
doing right now?

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Because I asked you to. I said, Yo, is that
shit gonna work on my ship? So yeah, and then
it does and it worked.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
It works. It just don't you can't use none of
the special features.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Yeah, I can't. Can't use stems and I can't do that.
But I mean, like I said, that's why I believe
that it's still important to do your your preparation, you know,
because I make a lot of edits. I make my
own intro edits, I make my own acapella outs, I
make my own acapella ends where we're like, you know,
but I'm recording from from my vinyl, getting the a
cappella and everything. So I mean, as far as right now,

(01:03:45):
my my edits kind of sound better than what stems
sound like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I know what the new three point two point two
or whatever. They just did a new Stems full upgrade.
So I mean, I don't know how they sound. Now,
you could tell me better than than you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
I would know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
I used I used Stems a lot. I just can't.
I don't know's it opens up a whole new world
for music. And it sounds because I did the upgrade.
I did the up upgrade to it update, and it
sounds the same, Bro, It sounds the same, but it
sounds more.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
It just sounds more.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
It's a little fuller.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Yeah, it's full.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
I heard when you were I heard when you were
doing you're doing your things, and I was like, oh, ship,
it sounds it's a little bit because the original update
of Stems it was a little tingy, right, And I
think everyone knew that instrumentals sound.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Really great, Yeah, all the instrumentals.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
You know what I mean? Bro, If I do need
an acapella, especially when I was like in in tweak
music Battles and all that, I used lao AI and
they just did an upgrade of theirs too, and I
was like, oh, sounds really good too. So I can
only imagine serado. Of course everyone's going to be doing
these upgrades as they as they are technology advances, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
So it's it's only going to get better, definitely, definitely.
Then it came out with a Serado Studio.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Yeah, Serato studio, you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Know what I'm s So it's like we said, it's
just building and building and building, and we've been we've
seen it from when it starts now yeah, and yo,
it's basically the studio, it says, here's twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
So the release of Serado Studio. What is that?

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Intuitive beat making software packs advanced production of functionality into
a familiar DJ friendly workflow, so you can transition seemlessly
into beat making. So it's just basically like everything with that,
you can't go wrong, bro Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
I watched the It was a mass appeal on the YouTube.
They had Jazzy jeff On and Jazzy Deaf made a beat, sampled,
it did everything in Serrato's studio, and I was kind
of like tripping out because it just looks so familiar
to Serrato that it made it so easy to watch.
And as a erson that never had had tried I

(01:06:00):
had this software, I already understood what he was doing,
you know what I mean, when he was chopping the samples,
the waves had all the colors that I'm familiar with.
The software already looked familiar it. I don't know, I'm
I'm I'm totally interested in looking into it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
I'm not too much of what I was looking at.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
I was looking at here, but yeah, I was looking
on on YouTube. Actually what they was using this thing,
it's a lot more so than what we see right here, man,
because the boy he was describing stuff, man, and that's
something that we need to get more into too as well,
especially me. I want to I want to dig into
this and see how how far I could go down
the rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeah, definitely, I know. I believe Lost tonebros. We're about
to drop our new Loopers, So I mean, I do
got a beat on there, and I'm I'm I want
to incorporate some something better, you know what I mean,
Because I know what I was using. I mean, I
was able to freak a be out. But I'm like, man,
because I'm using machine, but I don't necessarily have the
real software. So I'm kind of like getting samples and

(01:06:58):
I'm like, oh man, okay, let me do this, let
me do this, let me do that and it would
just be a lot easier something like that. So I
don't know. I know you have the full you have
the sorato sweet, right, you have the full serrado sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Yeah, I got the whole.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
I don't. But then again, I can't even use everything.
I've been telling people too, because a lot of people
tell me like, well, well don't you don't you want
to use stam zone, you want this? And I'm like,
well yeah, but then that means I gotta buy a
brand new laptop and I gotta buy a brand new
mixer because my mixer is outdated for the for the
new software too, because they dropped or they dropped the

(01:07:31):
support for the sixty two already, which is sad. It's
a sad day. But I mean in order to uh,
to continue forward, you got to get the new technology, definitely,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
What I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
It's one of those things, bro, It's one of those things.
Being a DJ, and especially a working DJ, it turns
into one of those things you got to be investing
in your future. Jem and I just picked up the
twenty fifth anniversary. I have a stealed copy right now.
We're going to open up before we do though, Jim,
I wanted to talk about some of the other really
that Serrato has on their website right now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Yo, shoutouts to Serado bro I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Telling you because they're always doing stuff right now too.
They have the the Craze no request breaks, and so
all these tracks they like I said, they got the
they got the scratch tone on one side, the Serrato tone.
Excuse me, they got the Sorato tone on one side,
and then they got they got other stuff. So they
got a craze release up there right now, Damn Funk
and Serado they got that. They got the the Uzzy Dog,

(01:08:26):
they got all kinds of them. Dog Questlove has has
his sessions on there. S K eighty three, who I
was amazed that he couldn't get a working visa to
come out and tour in the United States because Homie's
doing all kinds of dope shit, and I get excited
when I see people like scratching the drummer bass and
doing drummer based like like shows where they're doing just

(01:08:47):
anthems and like a cappella's over them and all that stuff.
He's always doing dope. Shut I mean, he really is
Chrismas got hers, all kinds of the cut records. Brace
has a seven ince record on there. If you haven't
done seen any of the Serado vinyl check check them out.
Also to the sticker lock on. You've seen those ones
where they got the bar on them underneath, you know,
so you know, check those out. But we're gonna we're

(01:09:08):
gonna open this record, Gemini. Let's open it up, give
me it, and then you got to open it up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
O school.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Yeah, I'm gonna rub it on my.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Leg and we're gonna get it. We're gonna get it.
So let's sit here and then.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Okay, before I show what I get. Because they did
come in a few different colors, these are only available
in the OG colors, Gemini, So these are the OG
colors that they first really released these records in. I'm
personally hoping for the marble gray. I would like the
marble gray. If I got the marble gray in here,
I'm gonna be pretty excited.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
So you don't know what's in there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
You don't know what it is. It's a blind bag,
and I think there's a blue one, there's a yellow one,
there's a red one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
I want my copy, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I know you do, dog. So I got shout out
to to Astro a v ol because Astro was able
to hook me up and broke. I went day one
all right when they said Serato said that they were
going to be available. I went Day one in store
at like three o'clock and I was like yo. I
told myself this, either I'm going to get it or

(01:10:13):
they're going to be sold out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
And they didn't get their packages yet. I was like yo,
I didn't realize there was an option seat, right, So
I put my name on the waiting list, and then
I really really didn't think I was going to get anything.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
It was not going to go down. Like I was
already like I didn't get this. I didn't get this,
you know. Then two weeks later, I get a call
right before I get off work at like it was
like four o'clock, four ten. I get off at four thirty.
I'm in Irwindale. They're all the way over there. What
is it like Glendale area, And I'm like, dude, off

(01:10:53):
of San Fernando Road, I'm like done, there's no way.
That's like an hour traffic there, an hour traffic back.
I was like, I'm not going to get these records.
I'm not going to get these records. Not going to happen.
And that was on a on a Tuesday. And that Thursday,
my boss told me, hey, we need you to go

(01:11:14):
pick up something. And I got to drive the Sun
Valley and I was like, oh, where I'm going is legit?
Like if I was to take the five like four
miles yeah, And I'm like, yo, I should go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
I call, But Yo, you could have put my name
on the list, so bring them back.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Could I could not have put your name on it.
You could have called and put your own name.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
On the list. Oh wait, you said you went down there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
I did, but you so you could call? You could call,
hey do you have them?

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
My dad said that. But see that's the thing. I
write like ninety messages in our crew text. You just
want to read the last one and be like and
then start asking questions about things I already answered. See,
so you would have known. So I call and I
talked to the guy on the phone and he's like, oh, man, no,
we actually we actually we sold them all because of

(01:12:06):
this dad. He was like, he was hard. I could go, look,
but you know we have some that that I don't
know what what's already been paid for? And I'm like
and literally I'm I'm like, my boss told me leave.
So I'm like, damn all right, well I'm already like shit.
Well then I missed out, you know, I'm like, damn it.
So right as I'm walking out the door, we get

(01:12:29):
a delivery and I'm like, all right, you know what,
I'll go and jump on the forklift, get this palette
out and I go put it down right. So then
I go to get get the keys in my phone
and I noticed I got a miss call. I called
back and I was like, hey, someone called me right now.
And I'm like, either he called me to tell me no,
or he told me to tell me yeah, and I
better hurry up. Answer the phone. Guys right there, and

(01:12:53):
he tells me, Adam, I got you covered.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
I have it right here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Just come down and I'm holding it for you. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
I was there in twenty minutes, son, and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Why I have this right here in my hand. So
shout out to Astro Vinyl because they held on to
this for me and Gemin I'm gonna tell you this.
The girl looked at me like I was crazy when
I told her that it was on hold for me.
She was like it was on hold. She was like, no,
homie came out, Oh yeah, his is the one right
there underneath the little keyboard, Da da da, And she
came out with this one copy like yo, I don't
even know where he got this from.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
So good shit though, man, So I got limited to
fifteen hundred pair right here, Gemini.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
I probably shouldn't have opened it, but guess why I
want to open it. I need to know what's inside it.
And there's something special. After we know the cover color, well,
we'll get into it. So let's see here. So there
are two copies in here, and I'm pulling both out
right now. Let's see here. See what we got. Still
can't tell what color it is, bro it is it's black.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Black, all right? Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
I wasn't expecting black, but we go. We got we
got black cover.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Right, You look disappointed.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
I mean I didn't know black was a color that
you could get, but yeah, we got the We got
the black.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
It doesn't matter because I wasn't gonna use them anyway regardless.
But on here, but on here. Besides the fact that
it does have a Sado twenty fifth anniversary logo on there.
There is a special tone on there that when you
needle drop on that tone, it gives you a scratch,

(01:14:34):
live skin for your Serrado. So honestly, that's what I
really want, because that's gonna be the thing that when
I go out and I DJ and then my Serado
looks different than everyone else is Serrado. That's gonna be
the thing that sets it apart.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
I ask you a question, if I say excited, if
I take that, and I'll do that to my ship
when you're gonna have the skin too, that's all we're
talking to telling the shot one and shot ones like oh,
we're about to have a needle drop party at it
one house.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
So it's like, yeah, so it's gonna be one of
those things. I like, Yo, did you know?

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
And you come over to the path, be like, hey, dog,
I brought my laptop. Son. You know what it means,
you bring your No, I did not see. You could
have had it right now, went home. You could have went.
We're gonna test it out, right, Yeah, we're gonna switch
it up, so you know, shout out, shout out to
Astro Vinyl, because I really do feel like they hooked
me up. Jemini, No they did. I feel like they hooked.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Me up, yo, And I know they when they listen
and shit, if they come across another copy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
You just let me know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Okay, only twenty what is it? Fifteen hundred limited to
fifteen hundred, that's what they said. I don't know if
that that includes all the ones that gave away, because
I know they didn't give them out to a lot
of people, because a lot of people were talking about
these records before they came out for the release and everything.
So shout out to everyone that did get it. I'm excited.
I think there was on like two or three stores
in California that even were on the list, you know

(01:15:52):
what I mean. So you know, I was like, damn,
I think Hollywood DJ had them, and then I was like,
oh shit, then Mile High DJ supply out there and Tech.
I was like, well, I know, I'm not driving the
textas to try to get it. So I'm really excited
that I got it. And I bet you didn't, Wony.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
If you look that ship up somewhere, they're gonna have
that shit for like a hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Oh yeah, easy, easy, easy. And then I know I
feel like they really hooked me up. So I'm excited.
Shout out to Serato for twenty five years. I was
looking it up too. They had a twenty year pack
that they they gave away too that they didn't give
it away, but it was a big box set and everything.
This one's a little bit different. I'm excited about it.
If you haven't already checked out Serado dot com, check

(01:16:31):
them out, look at them up on YouTube. There's a
bunch of videos that they put out of DJ's talking
about their journey and how they got into the DJ
and using Serado, if they were a hater, if they weren't.
It's kind of cool hearing like mixed Master Mike tell
his story about like how Am was like telling them, bro,
you gotta get this, you gotta get that, and it's dope.
Like hearing Jazz Jeff Yeah, Jazzy Jed was like yo, yo, yo,

(01:16:54):
how you gonna go that way?

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
And ship? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
And then I know also too, it was cool here
that mixed Master d XT was like pushing it onto
everyone likes. It's just cool hearing everyone from Revolution and
everyone really talking about Serado and and this is really
our love for music, you know what. I mean, and
someone that came out had a banging product and yeah, man,
it's just dope. It's just amazing. It's also weird to

(01:17:20):
see the Scratch Live logo on here and it doesn't
say rain because remember the first ones they all said
rain on them, you know what I mean. I still
got the Serado box up there. I was showing you
I got no mine's actually I think it's an SL
two box skidding on one. Yeah, that's SL two up there.
But you know it's like, it's just dope. I mean,
it's where DJ is going. It's where DJing and the

(01:17:41):
future is going. It's the technology. I'm happy that like
not to not to talk shit about like cdj's, but
I'm happy we're not doing CDJs, you know what I mean.
I never went that route. You know, I do understand
that that is a club standard too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Like like I said before, Man like previous shows and
ship Man that techniques c DJ that came out with
the spinning the spinning platter, Yeah, it was all like
chromes and ones.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Yeah. Manel Jueles has a couple modified pairs where the
screen's out and he has phasing them so you can
do you can scratch and everything and no ship. Yeah,
he's got two of them like that where you using?
So now it looks like you have too many turntables
but crazy yeah, so I mean, yeah, it's just it's

(01:18:25):
just technology. Serrato twenty five years Gemini.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
There it is tables for two, tables for two. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Bro, that's it. That was the climax. I'm kind of
mad that it's just black though, dog in your face. Man,
I was like, they're not even colored.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
Yeah, it was. It was like yo, he looked at
it like, oh, so did they just give you the one?

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
I thought it was gonna be. I thought it was
going to be at least the color. But she got one.
Got he They're murdered.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
They're murdered out, son, you know what I'm saying, murdered out?

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
So hey, Gemini. Also, I was checking the score. Dodgers
are up over the Mets right now, six to three.
You New York Yankees are gonna be going to the
World Series. I hope that we're their son.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Remember when we had to do that Yankees and uh Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Yeah, remember when I had you in all dressed up
in the Dodgers uniform. Yeah, you're wereing A. You're right now, Son.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
At the time, Man, I'm over here, you're fucking DJ,
and I can move it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
You know what I'm saying to DJ.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
But then then when the Yankees ship go over there,
we do that ship, you know, I gotta be I'm
not DJing there no more.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
That's not happening.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
We're gonna, We're gonna, we're gonna go ham open that ship.
Just said we're gonna be fighting. B. We're fighting right now,
and we're fighting, Son.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
We smile fighting d J Gemini Yo eighty and one
tables for two Dorado twenty five years, Bang Bang we out. Yeah,
yousssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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