Are We Too Hard on iPadOS?

Tailosive Tech Streamed: July 9th, 2024

Episode Transcript

(00:02):
Ay, ladies and gentlemen, Welcomeback to Tailos of tech Live on YouTube.
It's been a minute, I've beentraveling. It's been a trip.
Oh my god, so much hashappened since the last time I've went live.
If you want to know more aboutit, check the other more red
telos of channel And yeah, Ihaven't forgotten though we still have some very

(00:26):
old questions that I don't want toleave anybody behind, specifically our channel members,
who have been ohso generous and patientwith me. Thank you, by
the way, y J Choi forwaiting so long, But basically he asked
you acknowledge that software development is hardwork and people underestimate the difficulty of fixing
software bugs while constantly trying to addmore features without breaking existing features. But

(00:49):
you also seem to agree with thesentiment that ipadowes getting most, if not
all, of ioas eighteen's features stillwasn't impressive of an update this year,
instead of making us wait till thenext iPadOS like they did with lockscreen customization.
Do I think tech YouTubers slash nerdswho follow tech news have unreasonably high
expectations of the quantity of features addedyear over year or do you think they're

(01:11):
just just or do I think theyare justified in their frustrations? Long question,
but thanks in advance. Well,I answered your question in advance.
Wait wait, late, wait,what's the opposite of advance? Basically,
I took over two weeks to answerthat question, but I genuinely really haven't
had a good moment to just sitdown and go live, and this felt

(01:34):
like the perfect opportunity. So pleaseweigh in on the chat for any questions
or topics that you've had regarding thepast couple weeks of news. But I
think there's truth to both parts ofthat question. For one, like,
yes, people absolutely underestimate the complexitiesof software development. A lot of people

(01:55):
can visualize software features or entertain softwarefeatures in their mind, but then not
realizing how much work goes into genuinesoftware development and especially bug pit patching things
and fixing bugs. It's not anexact science. You have to identify what's
causing the bug, and then howdo you fix it, and then how
do you not create five more bugsin the process. And yes, every

(02:17):
day people including myself, do nothave a firm grasp on how complicated it
is to fix these kinds of problemsthat we all kind of just take for
granted. I do think a lotof us just kind of assume, oh,
yeah, well software, you know, it just works, and they
come out with a feature in thefeatures work and it's like, ah,

(02:37):
there's actually a ton of work thatgoes into developing these things. But the
question kind of stemmed back around toiPad o wes and how the tech community
has all of these demands or hopesor desires for iPad o wes to do
all these amazing things or have productsymmetry with iOS and that kind of thing.
I don't think it's necessarily unreasonable whatpeople are asking. Mainly, I

(03:02):
think the argument falls apart that itmight be too hard when you charge as
much as you do for these products, Which is why my angle as far
as ipedos is concerned, as it'salways come back to we have a laundry
list of feature requests, and alot of them would be fixed by having
dual boot macOS support, which Ipersonally see as a domino effect, like

(03:25):
you knock down one pin and youknock down all the rest of these tiles
at once. By adding really justone feature in a way we know that
Apple is up for doing dual booting. They've done dual booting on their devices
in the past. In fact,they've let you dual boot on Max to
put non Apple software, non Appleoperating systems on your Mac. Now,

(03:50):
obviously that's gotten a lot harder withthe transition to Apple Silicon, But if
the EU has their way, itdefinitely doesn't seem like to me they're going
to be stopping European Union from allowingfeatures like sideloading or alt stores, or
third party applications like Google Maps orSpotify being integrated on the system level if

(04:11):
you so desire being able to accessto other digital assistants, and of course
RCS support. A lot of peoplewere against a lot of people at Apple,
or at least publicly, they said, we don't see the need for
OURCS, what's the point? Andthen EU kind of steps in and they're
like, okay, I guess wegot to support it. So, in
my opinion, it is absolutely notthat far a stretch at all that Apple
could allow an option for you torun ipedos, because IPEDOS as a touch

(04:36):
optimized operating system is still pretty great, especially compared to a lot of Android
tablets and how they're optimized to runapps on the play Store iPad just as
an iPad in nothing more than that, Ipedos kind of gets the job done.
And I've always kind of echoed thatsentiment that for a three hundred dollars
iPad like the iPad ten is now, Ipedos is fine all of the necessary

(05:00):
hardware. But when you start chargingone thousand dollars thirteen hundred dollars now for
the thirteen inch o led iPad Pro, When you're charging that kind of money,
people are going to expect a certainamount of software capability, which is
why I don't find it unreasonable,even though yes, it is very difficult
to get software to do everything youwant it to. But I do echo

(05:23):
the sediment that matching every iOS featureto ipdos, or matching every Mac os
feature to iPad os is extremely timeconsuming. It's not the kind of thing
they could do overnight. It's notthe kind of thing they could just do
one year and just say we're goingto make sure that everything you can do
on your Mac you can now doon your iPad, Especially when it took
us how long thirteen fourteen years toget a calculator app on the iPad I

(05:49):
know they weren't actively working on thecalculator app for fourteen years, but my
point is it's a lot of workto get little things working. Whereas,
in my opinion, diverting some thatsoftware engineering efforts to just say, let's
allow dual booting like they already havein the past with Microsoft Operating systems,

(06:09):
it would be a much shorter termsolution. It may not be ideal because
I understand a lot of people aresaying, yeah, it would be nice
if you didn't have to dual bootinto mac Os. You just need to
add all of those features you're askingfor on macOS two iPad os and just
make ipedos better. But as we'veseen with the development pacing of IPEd os,

(06:30):
and from sources familiar with the matter, I'll say there is no designated
ipedos team. There's an iOS teamthat occasionally has to adjust iPad os so
that it gains most of the feature'siOS gains. Hello Brandon, Hello Alpha,
back home already. I got homethis morning. Actually, it was

(06:51):
a crazy long road trip and I'llgo more into it on the EV channel,
but I don't want to talk aboutit yet. It's a long story.
Jackson Smith says well, ipeaws workedwell for me during UNI. Everything
that could be done was just abetter experience on my Mac. I said
it was like everything took five stepsinstead of two to reach the same objective.
Yeah. I can echo that aswell, having made videos and brand

(07:15):
YouTube channels on the iPad. It'slike, can you do it? Yes?
But especially when the pricing gets upthere close to that of Max,
it's like, okay, is itbetter than a Mac? No? And
if it was cheaper than a Mac, I'd be okay with that. I'd
be like, Okay, it's acheaper alternative that gets the job done in
a few more steps. But whenit's more expensive than a Mac and it
takes longer, it's like, Okay, what are we doing here? Seems

(07:39):
like Apple is rooming to go backto an older era, bringing back thin
products along with a possible unapologetically plasticApple Watch se your thoughts true man,
all the next video ideas, we'rejust diving into them right now. Yeah.
I would never say never, justbecause there's so many reports that everybody
doubted were real and then actually endedup happening, especially Apple Vision Pro that

(08:03):
was rumored for a long time andsounded very hard to believe, and yet
they did it. Even though itwas crazy and arguably kind of foolish and
stupid, they still did it.Thirty five hundred dollars for a two hour
battery life. Yeah, but yeah. My thoughts on Apple going back to
thin designs is I feel like themain sediment that we've been echoing for a

(08:24):
while now is running out of innovation, running out of new ideas. Did
the let's talk about the trend setterhere the new oled iPad pros. Apple
was boasting and even pulling out dustingoff the iPod nanos to show off how
thin the new iPad pro was.But again, like a million YouTubers have

(08:46):
already said, were people asking fora thinner iPad? Does it really that
beneficial to have a thinner iPad?Would people rather just have the same size
iPad just with a bigger battery life. Yeah? I agree, Most people
were not really looking for new iPadsto, I mean, thinner iPads.

(09:07):
Most people, thank you, bythe way, I'll read all the messages
in a second. Most people werecomplaining about the software and then Apple doubled
down on how thin it is.But the fact that they marketed it so
hard as this is our thinnest Appleproduct, Like it's more of just a
flex of their engineering skills, andthen they can convert that into marketing material

(09:30):
like, oh my god, lookat how cool our tablet is. Look
at how thin it is. Noone else can pack so much performance into
a device this thin. So similarly, it sounds like they're working on implementing
that same kind of tech into areally thin iPhone. Again, who would
rather have more battery life? Ithink most people would rather have more battery
life. Also, there's way moredurability concerns once you start getting much much

(09:56):
thinner, And that's why I don'tthink they're making it thinner for necessarily many
objective advantages. Most people slap thecapes on their phones anyway. A lot
of people are still using fairly heavysteel iPhone pro maxes from yesteryear. That's
a fun word. Is that areal word? It sounds right. Ssualizer

(10:20):
says hatre has my summer going.It's very hot, but it's going great.
I had an action packed vacation.Was it a vacation? I worked
a little bit on it, butthe trip was fun and I got to
hang out with my family a lot, and we did. There was something
really eventful going on pretty much everyday. So normally on trips and stuff,

(10:41):
I find time to work in betweenall the craziness. But on this
trip, oh man, I apologizefor the lack of uploads because it was
packed. We were going to themeparks, we were going to you know,
lakes and swimming and canoeing, andit was it was packed. It

(11:01):
was great though. It's going wonderful, but it's very hot. It's also
very very hot, all right,Pirie Karma, I hope I pronounced that
correctly. Say has been following youfrom the beginning? Great stuff? When
is the beginning for you? Guys? I keep hearing that it's usually the
attic. Alpha says, how canwe be too hard on ipedos team when

(11:22):
there's no Ipedos team to be hard? H that's not an unreasonable statement.
We're not too hard on the teambecause there is no team. Brandon says,
used to love iPad, but thenI got a mac. I love
your visit. Oh thanks, Brandon, appreciate it. Yeah, I'm the
same way. I often had adifficult time accepting that I would buy a

(11:43):
one thousand dollars tablet and a youknow, probably three thousand dollars laptop or
a bunch in my case, likesix thousand dollars laptop. There's a lot
of money, but I do usethe crap out of it, both for
media. I mainly on the tripwas using it for entertainment, but also
for work. I mainly paid extrafor that storage. And now that I'm

(12:05):
working at Tello Trucks and on TELOSUFIt's funny how similar those names are.
Mine was first, but yeah,I film a lot of stuff and I
have to store a lot of footagelocally, so I am genuinely using the
storage. I'm not looking forward tothe day when I run out of space
on my laptop. External drives onlyget you so far, and it makes

(12:28):
it harder to pack and stuff.In relation to my thought, could Johnny
I've like minded people DNA be regainingcontrol of the company. Possibly. I
still feel like there's this emphasis onnot going too far, you know,
like Apple hasn't removed many ports fora while. Actually they're still kind of

(12:52):
moving in the opposite direction. Likeeveryone thought they were going portless, but
instead they went USBC. Now they'rebragging about USBC advertising. The fact that
the iPhone has USBC. Of coursethey're doubling down on the hdmiport by giving
it even faster throughput capabilities. Theybrought back mag safe, So I don't
think it's a lot of that,Johnny. I've likeness or mindedness was about

(13:18):
thinner and that often meant at thecompromise of a lot of functionality, whereas
and I think Apple's probably making theright call. They seem to be trying
to find that middle ground where they'relike, Okay, we can make things
thinner and lighter, but let's alsotry not to compromise too much on the
utility. Like if they made theiPad so thin that it couldn't use USBC

(13:39):
anymore, so they get rid ofType C and now you can't sell it
in the EU and you have tocharge it inductively with some kind of pad
on the back. Yeah, thatto me almost sounds more Johnny. I've
like be like, it just chargesvia the smart connector. Now it doesn't
need Type C. It's so thin, we can't fit Type C on there.
It's like, okay, well it'sa pro iPad. People use it
for work and stuff, so thatthey might want to plug it in and

(14:01):
you know, ports are kind ofhandy if you can. Again, sometimes
the middle ground is the sweet spot. You can wirelessly charge this thing if
you want to. You could neverplug anything into it, but it doesn't
hurt too much by having the option. It's not that bad. iPad Air
with M two is as far asanyone needs to go. The pros are

(14:22):
luxury devices. The last gen prosare great value. Yeah, I was
gonna say I wouldn't. I wouldn'tgo with the M two iPad Air because
you can get several year old iPadpro that's pretty much identical, and you'll
get the higher refresh rate display.You still get a good chip that's fast.
Let's see, what did they addfrom iOS seventeen into iPads eighteen.

(14:46):
To be honest, Ugh, you'reasking me off the top of my head.
I'm sure there's something battery health featuresthat was more from the iPhone fifteen.
But yeah, the new iPad proshave like a charge limitter and optimized
battery charging. But I still don'tunderstand why they can't add that to older
iPads. That seems kind of likeplanned obsolescence in my opinion. But I

(15:09):
reckon the next iPad air will borrowthe hardware of the current iPad pro,
which would make sense how light itis, and then the next iPad pro
will be thicker with more battery.Ah, May, how do you say?
Your name? Maydix one? There'sa long term game I see they're
playing here. Yeah, let's sayyou say, it doesn't make sense for

(15:31):
iPad pros to be more expensive thanMacBooks, but it also doesn't make sense
for iPhones to be more expensive thanAndroid phones. Everyone was agreed. Anytime
you start a sentence with everyone agreesthat it's never the case. But no,
I said that an iPad pro isa hard sale if it's more expensive
than a Mac but can't do whata Mac can do. I'm actually not

(15:54):
against iPad pros at their current pricing. I don't think it's really a pricing
problem. It's more of a softwareproblem. Considering the incredible hardware that they
have on them. The price couldbe justified if it could do everything a
Mac could do. In regards tosoftware, run the macversion of Final Cut,
run the macversion of x code,and the Mac version, in my

(16:15):
opinion, isn't necessarily just some magic. It has to be the Mac version.
It's just the fully unlocked version.Like I think, if you spend
two thousand dollars on an iPad setup, you should be able to write applications
for iPhones on it. Six hundreddollars Mac can do that, so why
can't a two thousand dollars iPad.That's all I'm saying. What do I
think is the average lifespan of aniPad? Ooh? It depends on the

(16:37):
definition of life span, because Iknow a lot of people that keep using
iPads long after they stop getting softwaresupport, especially a lot of Grammas.
For some reason, grammas and iPadsjust go well together, I guess,
because iPads might be just intuitive andsimple. iPad has made for entertainment,
Mac has made for work, Well, then you don't need an M four

(17:00):
ship for entertainment. I'm sorry.If you don't see anything wrong with your
fourteen pro, then keep it untilyou're excited about a new feature. Yeah,
I agree with that. Don't baseyour upgrade on how good the new
phone is, based it on howbad your current phone is. You think
they should bring a water down versionof Mac Os. That would be a
good start. I'm not saying itwould be perfect, but if it resulted

(17:25):
in the iPad having more functionality,then yeah, I think it'd be worth
it. There's just a lot ofbasic things, and again it's not one
or two things. That's my biggestoverall problem is that if there were only
three or four things that would solveeverybody's problem, then I would say,
yeah, I just update ipedos tosupport those three or four things. But
the truth is it's a laundry listof little things. It's about like multi

(17:48):
media playbacks, or it's about certainSafari extensions, or it's about terminal commands.
These are not like one big featurethat ipdos needs. It's like dozens,
if not one, hundreds of tinyfeatures that macOS has that Ipedos doesn't.
And I don't think it's practical toassume that the ipedos team, which
doesn't exist, can individually add allof these little features. It's more like,

(18:11):
no, just knock over the onedomino, which is add an option
for you to run macOS on theiPad itself, and then basically boom all
those little features. They may bekind of awkward roundabout features of like oh,
I got to boot it into macOSmode to do it, but at
least it could technically do it,and then we could have a version of

(18:32):
an Apple product that supports the Applepencil, has five G has o led
has a touch screen that can alsomake software applications that can run terminal commands
that can run the fully unlocked versionof Logic final cut xcode, and you
don't have to get the water downversion that they came up with for the
tablet experience. What would a waterdown macOS look like. Maybe it doesn't

(18:57):
allow apps from outside the app store, so it's like a version of macOS,
but it's only the apps that areon the MacApp Store or something like
that. It could leave out afew things, but it would be a
good start, is all I'm saying. It could just run the things that
we know MAS can run natively.Maybe it doesn't do emulation. It doesn't

(19:19):
have Rosetta, so if an appis an optimized for Apple Silicon, it
just doesn't run. I don't know. They should make a touchscreen Mac and
get rid of the iphead teep.I actually don't agree with that. I
think there should be devices. Thereshould be laptops and even desktops that do
not have touchscreen interfaces. And Ipersonally believe that there should be an operating

(19:41):
system with hardware designed for that operatingsystem built around keyboard and mouse as the
only input. And that's what Ithink macOS is good at. iPad os
should be the blur between keyboard andmouse interface and touch interface. I don't
think you need two hybrid operating systemsobviously. I is like almost exclusively touched.

(20:02):
Technically, there's some accessibility ways youcan add a keyboard and mouse,
but almost nobody does that right.iOS is pretty much from the ground up
designed to be touch dominant interface.Mac OS is the opposite. It's pretty
much from the ground up designed tobe keyboard and mouse interface. IPEd Os
is a bit of both, andI hope that they could expand on that

(20:22):
over the long term. But becauseit takes so long for them to add
things, I think the easiest solutionthat would take the least amount of time
and be the easiest for the softwareteam to develop. Again, not saying
it would be easy, but easiestout of all the options to knock down
all these pins, add all ofthese laundry list of features people are asking

(20:42):
for iPads to do in regards tosoftware. By just saying okay in the
developer settings if you really know howto look for it, you can boot
it into a Mac and switch betweenipedos and Mac os. M four chip
is super fast. Those nands theyship in there are really really quick reading.
Right. Imagine how fast with AppleSilicon you could probably boot between operating

(21:02):
systems. It'd probably be way fasterthan the boot camp days of old when
we switch between Windows and mac os. Because Apple's in charge of the whole
thing. I just think people wantthe iPad to be a laptop way too
much. Yeah, if they neveradded the first party keyboard and mouse support,
then maybe this discussion would be Iwouldn't be asking for Mac os if

(21:23):
they weren't actively always advertising the keyboardcase with the track pad. It's like
you added all of this Mac hardware. Naturally, I'm gonna ask for Mac
software. Word sort of sucks oniPad, especially with images as pages any
better. You know. I don'tdo a lot of document work, I'm
afraid, so I can't really commenton that accurately. Can one take the

(21:45):
Mac laptop and just install Windows OS? At least back in the Intel days,
you definitely could. Apple never reallystopped people from doing it. They
just and they've actively said they're notagain supporting it in the future, but
it's kind of up to Microsoft whateverthat means. But it doesn't sound like
they're like fundamentally against it. Wheredo I think we're going with Apple VR

(22:07):
headset? Will it ever replace theiPhone? No? But I don't think
it has to replace the iPhone tomake a big impact. I think,
like most Apple products, the firstgeneration is not a big hit. If
you ask people what their favorite generationof iPhone is, no one will say
the first gen. I know thatfrom firsthand experience. I asked everybody what
your favorite generation of iPhone was,and it was always like the success or

(22:32):
the five or the four. Thatwas the one that really swayed me over.
That was the most iconic. It'salways the follow ups where the product
find its stride, right, It'slike Apple Watch goes mainstream when it hits
the Series four, or the iPhonegoes mainstream when it hit the iPhone four.
The iPad really got serious when theygot to I don't know, the

(22:53):
third generation. Yeah, it takesseveral follow ups in releasing the product.
Mass producing the product is an importantexercise for Apple to figure out exactly,
Okay, how do we build this, how do we scale this? And
then they take all of the customerfeedback and run with it, and I
think they are. We're already hearingyou know, it's still in rumor territory,

(23:14):
but thank you Nicholas. By theway, I'll read that in a
second. We're hearing behind the scenesreports claiming that they've kind of scrapped a
lot of their ideas for a secondgeneration Apple Vision Pro, but they're still
actively looking at how to lower theprice, which to me is an indication

(23:37):
that they are still actively working ona second generation headset that supports vision,
o AS and spatial computing. Butthey've taken everybody's suggestions and they're now looking
at, Okay, how do weimprove on this and make it cheaper and
make it more affordable, So figuringout that, Okay, this type of
product people aren't really comfortable spending thirtyfive hundred bucks on, yet they're taking

(24:02):
that into consideration. They're looking atall the feedback people are saying the resolution
is fine, but the weight isreally bothering me, and the you know,
does weight matter so much? Withdoes the premium materials they use matter
as much? When it's something you'rewearing on your face, so they're probably
putting more now on like comfort,Let's focus more on making it comfortable and

(24:22):
making it maybe more stylish, orincreasing the battery life, that kind of
thing. So I don't think it'llreplace the smartphone, but I think as
it already has, the smartphone willbecome more and more of a camera every
year. It's kind of replacing thatold footprint of digital camera point and shoot
cameras, cam quarterers that people usedto have. I'm filming everything I do
now on my phone, and it'llprobably continue to double down more and more

(24:47):
as a camera focused device. Whereasover time, as it gets cheaper and
as the quality gets better and theyare able to scale up the manufacturing of
it, I think Apple Vision basedproducts will probably start to become fairly uh
what do you call it impactful byreplacing a lot of our screens. It

(25:10):
could replace the screen for your laptop. It could probably even they could cast
the screen onto your phone so thatyour iPhone screen doesn't have to be on,
but you could still be using it, and that could change the way
iOS works fundamentally. You could haveyou know, widgets that stick out from
the side of the phone. Orthe volume indicator comes out from behind the
phone instead of on the screen,so it could change a lot and mask

(25:30):
out your fingers when you're texting andstuff. A lot of things could change
without it replacing the phone, ismy point. Like the iPhone didn't replace
the Mac, right, the Macis still a thing. iPhone didn't kill
off the Mac. But the iPhonewas a huge deal. Obviously, it
basically changed the world. Nicholas Linthencomthank you for twelve months of support.

(25:52):
Very generous of the use is theApplewatch Ultra is successful because it is thicker
while including much longer battery life.Based on the census I've seen online,
people want the same in an iPhone, not a slim model. Your thoughts,
I don't think Apple's looking at itas one way or the other.
I think they're looking at it asif you want something super thin and super
light, we have an option foryou. And if you want something thicker
and heavier but longer batter life,we have something for you. So keep

(26:15):
in mind. None of the rumorsabout the slim model, which by the
way, I highly doubt they'll callhighly doubt they'll call it. The iPhone
seventeen slim. It'll probably be someother name. I don't know that,
maybe iPhone Air and it's just thelighter one, and that's the big emphasis
is it's cheaper and lighter. ButI very much believe they will continue making
pro iPhones with big batteries and thickerdesigns because they know they can upsell people

(26:41):
very easily. Tom Anderson, thankyou so much for your support with Heylos
a tech plus. Very kind ofyou. Let's see. Jackson says,
theoretically, if all iOS devs moveto the iPad for a year, leaving
iOS nineteen bear, would you befine with that trade off if it meant
the iPad go chance of getting agood update. Honestly, yeah, iOS

(27:04):
eighteen does a lot of stuff,and I genuinely feel like I'm sure there's
more they could come up with.Every year Apple comes up with some cool
new features for iOS. But Iwouldn't mind skipping a year because honestly,
iOS just works really well for me. It's not terribly buggy. I know
there's some updates where it's worse thanothers, but for me, at least,

(27:27):
I don't feel like UH. Withregards to software on hardware, the
Mac doesn't feel limited by its software. Like everything that I want to do
on my Mac, I feel likeI'm able to do. The software takes
good advantage of the hardware, andthe same way on my iPhone, I
feel like the software takes good advantageof the hardware. There's a couple of

(27:48):
little things that I would like change, but for the most part, my
iPhone is reliable and it's consistent,and it works and I like it.
So if it meant that a year'sworth of development could result in the iPad
software fully taking advantage of all thehardware and it lets you do everything you

(28:08):
could do on your Mac and morebecause it has five g and an Apple
pencil and olead, so it reallyshould be able to do much more than
your Mac. And the only compromisewould be the battery life and the ports
and the speaker and the size.If you care more about those things,
you would go with a Mac.But if you don't care about how many
ports you have or how long yourbattery life is, then the iPad is

(28:30):
probably going to be the superior purchase, and you're paying for it because it's
more expensive than a Mac, Butyeah, I would say it's worth it.
I would say just take a yearoff from iOS development, or at
least slim it down to just beabout software patching. Obviously, don't take
a year off if there's massive bugsthat you need to fix, But if
there's just no new features for ayear, I would be fine with that

(28:52):
because I feel like iOS is goodin its current state, especially now with
iOS eighteen coming. You can putapps anywhere on the home. We were
asking for that for a long time. All the theme packs now where you
can basically change the color of theapps and the dark mode and stuff is
cool. We've got a bit morecustomization than we used to have, and
we got a great app store.We got a lot of pro camera features

(29:15):
now with final cut camera. Yeah, that's a it's it's fine to take
a break if it would help theiPad kind of catch up. In my
opinion, I only use my iPadour fourth jen for travel, but my
sister wants it. If I everwould to upgrade, would you would I
approve of it? I don't knowyour financial situation. You don't need my

(29:38):
approval, but yeah, like ifif you find a good deal and you
think you'll keep using it and it'llbe worth it, sure, why not?
I think the twenty twenty one MacBookPro is the best upgrade to a
product in the last ten years.Took everything that actually matters an upgrade.
I think I agree with you.I'm still using my twenty twenty one MacBook
Pro almost three years AG and it'sstill doing great. It exports videos very

(30:03):
fast, the display is bright andvibrant and rich. The battery life is
great. I actually used it alot today. I was watching videos and
editing videos on it, all ona single charge, and I didn't charge
to full today either, and itwas not only until right before I started
the live stream that I plugged itin, so that just everything about it,
there's very little I would change ifI could change anything, It's darn

(30:26):
near the closest I've ever had tolike a perfect Apple product. Have I
decided about giving my fifteen Pro tomy wife and upgrading this year. No,
I haven't, but it probably won'thappen now because my dang car is
costing me a lot more than Iexpected it too, which is frustrating.

(30:48):
So all the money I would havespent on a new iPhone had to go
to a new tire yay evs I'mreally bitter. It's too soon. I'm
being really hard on my car.But maybe time will pass. I've just
I need time to process this experience. It's very frustrating. It still doesn't

(31:14):
even have a calculator app. No, you're not too hard on ipedos.
It does now, it's just throughbeta. In the fall, it will
have the fully unlocked calculator app,so we can't use the calculator app.
Excuse anymore, because they did technicallycome out with a pretty great calculator app
with all the math notes features.Go watch Teylo's a VV if you're curious
about what's going on with my car, but tire damage and self driving.

(31:41):
Basically, when do you think we'llget M four macbik pros. I wouldn't
be shocked if they put in thebase model MacBook Pro, not the you
know not. I don't think they'regoing to upgrade the M three Pro or
the M three Max MacBooks later thisyear, but I believe there have been
some reports saying that by the endof this year, maybe around October,

(32:02):
they're going to put the M fourchip in the entry level MacBook Pro.
You know how kind of that entrylevel MacBook Pro is kind of in its
own separate category from the actual MacBookpros that have more ports and stuff.
It's confusing. I hate the namingscheme, but at least the new fourteen
inch MacBook Pro that's cheaper is alot closer to being a MacBook Pro than

(32:24):
the touchbar MacBook Pro, which reallyshould not have been called the MacBook Pro.
They should have just called that theregular MacBook. They really only called
it the MacBook Pro because of marketing, and I think they knew that the
sales would be better. Yeah,adult life sucks. There's been unexpected expenses
that have come up. Another offtopic, not tech related thing, but

(32:46):
because I got a new job workingat Tello Trucks. I'm not trying to
brag or get into the nitty diddydetails of every thing, but my income
went up. Okay, I'll justsay it. I'm making more now than
I used to make. But whereI live in the US of a America,

(33:08):
baby, health insurance is very expensive, and when your income exceeds a
certain amount, the price of yourhealth insurance goes way up along with it.
So my health insurance was at acertain reasonable price, and now because
my income going up, by healthinsurance is now jumped up, so it's

(33:31):
like, oh God, why doI even try? Why do I work
so hard? What's the point?At least where I live, it often
feels like you are motivated to makeas little money as possible because when you
make under a certain income limit,all these doors start opening up. Oh,
you qualify for this, you qualifyfor this, and then you work
harder and you make more, andthen it's like, oh, never mind,

(33:51):
you have to pay for all theseother things out of pocket, and
it's like, great, thank you? Is your car fixes? Says Michael
Zito. Mostly I'll dive more intothat on the EV channel. I don't
want this to turn into an EVstream, but needless to stay say,
my expenses have gotten much worse.I'm fine, We're not like in trouble

(34:19):
or anything. But it's just likeunnecessary spending like buying a new iPhone or
buying a new iPad is not atthe top of our list. I'm not
trying to say it's like we don'thave the money for it. Obviously we
could, but it's just not onthe top of our priority right now.
Can't win for losing? Is theA eighteen pro chip and iPhone sixteen pro

(34:42):
gonna be as powerful as the Mfour. No, No, I don't
think so. Fundamentally, As areminder to everybody, the M series of
chips are designed quite a bit differentlyfrom the A series of chips because of
how much power they consume. Okay, so even though they put the M
four and MacBooks and macmini's and iPads, it's still pretty much optimized as a
chip that's designed to consume between Iforget the exact number, but it's somewhere

(35:07):
between like ten to fifteen watts atpeak performance. At underload, it can
pull fifteen watts, So it's acertain amount I forget off the top of
my head. It's like eight performancecores and then it has four or six
efficiency cores, whereas the A serieschip is maxed out, I believe really
only supposed to pull seven and ahalf to ten watts. I don't even

(35:31):
think it goes to ten. Ithink it's more like seven or eight watts
when it's under complete extreme performance load. It doesn't come even close to the
bare minimum of the M series chip. So the M chips are kind of
designed for more power hungry use casesthat you interfere that you experience on a

(35:52):
MAC. I don't think you experiencedmuch on an iPad, but they put
it in the iPad. Anyway,It mainly comes down to power consumption.
I think the A seventeen Pro,if we're just it depends on the example,
because there's not like just performance units. It's like, in these circumstances,
the A seventeen Pro might be fasterthan the M one in certain regards,

(36:15):
but in other situations, of course, the M one is much much
faster. In fact, in mostsituations the M one is faster, but
I think it was so in somegeek bench test or something, the A
seventeen Pro was pretty much on parwith the M one. So the A
eighteen Pro might come close to theperformance of the M two. Maybe the

(36:37):
M three. I don't know whatkind of jump they're talking about doing,
but no, I don't think it'llbe on par with the I don't think
it'll be on par with the Mfour. The M four just came out,
and not that the M four isthat much drastically faster, but yeah,
AnyWho, let's see single core probablyclose performance, but obviously not multi

(36:59):
corp. Yeah, that's probably abetter way of phrasing it. Thank you,
Rick. I don't know if that'show you pronounce your name, but
yes, essentially, there might besome single core performance similarities, but overall,
it's more about the multicore that youactually experience. Like one chip having

(37:22):
better single core than another almost meansnothing because it's like, okay, But
if this chip has twelve cores andthis chip has four, then who cares
which single core is fast? Gunsare dirt cheap compared to healthcare in America,
eh, depends where you're buying theguns. Like many fields, there

(37:45):
are cheap iPads and there are expensiveepads, And if you're well versed in
the gun market, you'll know thereare cheap guns and there are expensive guns.
Not to mention ammo, especially ifyou don't refurbish and recycle your own
ammunition. Ammunition is very expensive,which is why I enjoy shooting with my

(38:06):
friends. But it's a very expensivehobby, which is why I typically only
go if someone else is paying forthe ammunition. I don't want to pay
for the ammunition myself. It's priceyas heck. I don't understand why everyone
in the world doesn't just use Androidtablets while most of the world uses Android,

(38:27):
and because phones have gotten so big, there's I think genuinely, there's
just less and less people buying tablets. It's like tablets made more sense when
phones were small, but it feelslike every year phones just keep getting bigger
and bigger, which is why peopleare like, Eh, why would I
bother? Why would I bother buyinga tablet when I can see everything on
my phone just fine. A lotof like think of the rise in vertical

(38:50):
video content, which I've definitely beengetting more and more into lately, not
as a consumer of but at mynew job at Tello Trucks. The goal
of the content is very different frommy YouTube career. You know, on
YouTube, I'm going for making kindof interesting, engaging content that is monetizable.

(39:13):
That's the big emphasis with YouTube becauseI want to obviously, I want
to have fun and I like bouncingideas off you guys. But life does
cost money. So the more timeI can give to work is based on
how the channels perform. So ifthe income is good and the monetization is
good based on me doing live streamsor doing YouTube videos or making tweets,

(39:37):
and I get paid from those kindsof things. Then it means I can
designate more time to researching or makingcontent better, funnier, that kind of
thing. Whereas with Tello trucks,it's more about reach. We're more in
the phase where it's like, wedon't really need to make money from the
content. We're just trying to getthe word out about the product. So
to get the word out most effectively, it definitely involves a lot more or

(40:01):
involves a lot more what's it calledvertical videos and videos that perform well on
different algorithms, which I've normally notcared as much about. I'm more of
just about like, let's put videosout there that don't need to have millions
of views in order to make adecent amount of income. Whereas because Tello

(40:23):
is trying to get the word outabout their product and their brand, I've
been making a lot more vertical videostuff that kind of thing. But vertical
video is a classic example of thepopularity of it, and because so many
people are watching it. It's becausepeople watch so much stuff on their phones.
They don't need to grab the tabletto watch more content. You know.

(40:43):
They a lot of people probably havethe phone going and the TV going,
so where does the tablet fit inthat interaction? Refurbished amma is probably
not the right word. Sorry,It's more like people who make their own
AMMO. What's it called. It'slike when you take the shells, you
clean off the shells, and thenyou can put the gunpowder back in and

(41:05):
mount the bullets back and mount newbullets back on. My brother does it
all the time. Well, Iget the new Beats pill to review.
You're the first person to ask.I didn't find it particularly interesting. But
if enough people ask, I mightconsider it. But I don't know.
I'm kind of The more and moreI walk around in public places, the
more I get sick of bluetooth speakers. Maybe this is part of my receiving

(41:27):
hairline and growing old, but I'mstarting to discover I really hate being in
a outdoorsy like if you're camping somewhere, or you're canoeing somewhere, biking somewhere.
Someone who reloading amos probably more accurate. Thank you. As you can
see, I don't do it verymuch. Going out in a public place

(41:49):
and blasting music on the speaker.I'm not a fan of. It's annoying
me. More and more you know, if you're just playing music for the
kit or the living room, that'sone thing. But most people would just
buy a little smart speaker for that, like a HomePod Mini or a Nest
Mini. It's only fifty bucks orsomething like that, and it just stays
plugged in. I guess having aBluetooth speaker is kind of handy in some

(42:13):
circumstances. I'm not saying I hateeverybody who buys a Bluetooth speaker. I've
bought Bluetooth speakers myself, but themore mainstream they became, the more annoyed
I got with people who were justblasting music everywhere. It made me go,
can you just use headphones? Please? Or maybe my old person in
me is coming out, because I'mlike, I really actually really enjoy nature
sounds, even if it's quiet.I just like the sound of birds chirping

(42:37):
or the I don't know. Duringthis Fourth of July trip, we did
some canoeing, and I just Iloved the sound of paddling and the water
trickling, and you just hear everythinggoing on. And there was a lot
of people, so at first itwas very annoying and people blasting music and
screaming and stuff, but then youcanoe away from the crowds and then you're

(42:57):
just in this serene nature. Butthen you get out there and someone pulls
out a Bluetooth speaker and they're like, oh, ready for some poons,
And I'm like, you just killedit. You just ruined the nature moment
for me. I don't know,so I'm only saying that as an effort
to mention why I'm not personally thatinterested in Bluetooth speakers. I think there's
kind of a million of them,and they pretty much all do the same

(43:20):
thing. But I haven't. Youknow what, Let's do it right now.
Get rid of the TV. It'sworthless. You know a lot of
people probably are, Oh, Nicholassays, you're no longer a full time
YouTuber. What will this mean foryour channel network? And what is the
new position entail? You probably meantentail. I would argue with you that

(43:42):
I wasn't ever really a full timeYouTuber. There were just times where YouTube
was pretty much my only job.The best way I could explain it,
take a Bluetooth jam or wherever yougo. That's actually not a bad idea
I should do. That is thatillegal? I know Bluetooth is kind of
important for certain people's setups or something. Arguably, I've done a lot of

(44:12):
YouTube over the years. I've inthe past tried to turn it into a
forty hour a week job, andhonestly, what I've discovered is I could
work twice as many hours and makefive percent more money, which is another
way of saying it's not really worthit, at least with my line of

(44:32):
work. I do tech videos andev videos, and I do podcasts,
and before I got this job atTello, I don't talk about this all
that much because I didn't think itwas that necessary, but it felt like
to me. I mean, it'shard to describe exactly when you're on the
clock or off the clock, becausea lot of me working is just scrolling

(44:52):
on Twitter or reading news articles.I'm like, I'm on my phone.
Is that really working? If I'mlike on the cow and it's a commercial
break while I'm watching a show,do I clock in for five seconds?
Okay, maybe you could stretch ita little higher. But for the most
part, before I got this newjob at Tello, I was pretty much
working twenty hours a week on Telo'sof stuff and the rest of your week

(45:15):
fills up with life stuff. I'vegot family, responsibilities and obligations and people
that need things and stuff. ButI just discovered in the past when I
tried to work longer or post morefrequently, either the algorithm doesn't like it
or there's not enough news. Withmy line of work, content is very
news based. So obviously on aday when there's an Apple event, I'm

(45:37):
working from, you know, itcould be eight am until seven pm.
It could be an all day job. But then there's also these long stretches
of there's not a lot of newsand there's not much to talk about,
and I could try to squeeze newsstories out of nothing best I can,
but honestly, if there's not muchnews to be excited about, people just

(45:58):
aren't gonna go online and stuff watchingstuff. So that's why I was more
open to taking the job at Tillow, which is basically running all their social
media. So if you see thempost stuff on TikTok, Instagram, Twitter,
YouTube, that's mostly me and Ikind of give them advice on what
I think they should it shouldn't share. And I talked with the engineers about

(46:22):
the products so that I can answercommunity questions because we get a lot of
comments and a lot of people askingabout their concerns and stuff like that.
So I was willing to take onthe job because it's a part time role.
It's not it's definitely not a fulltime I'm a contractor, not an
employee. So we went over allthe responsibilities and you know, everything they

(46:45):
are expecting and everything I'm expecting,and it felt like a good fit for
them because they didn't really have muchsocial media presence at all and very few
people had heard of them. SoI thought, yeah, you you honestly,
you kind of do need someone likeme who knows how these algorithms work
and kind of know how to getthe word out. And of course I
have my audience so I can bringit up so people are aware of you.

(47:06):
But I was a big fan ofthem as a startup company before they
reached out. For the record,they offered me a job. I did
not apply for one. I didn'task if they were hiring. They just
came to me and said, wedon't even know if this is something you
do, but we're thinking about marketingand social media and that seems like something
you're very good at, so couldyou help us. Would you be open

(47:27):
to that? And I said,okay, for this amount, I'd be
willing to do it, and theysaid, okay, we can do it.
So I don't think it should impedemuch on telos of at all,
if I'm being honest, I alreadyfelt like, especially with this Tech channel,
less so with the EV channel,but particularly here on the older telos
of Tech channel, which is tenyears old. Now, it felt like,

(47:51):
you know, obviously, when there'sa big Apple event, we have
lots of things to talk about,but in those dry seasons in between announcements,
it's getting pretty difficult to scrape togetherenough topics. I would have a
very hard time posting every day.And I've often discovered like sometimes if you
start scraping together smaller topics or talkingabout other fields that your audience isn't as

(48:15):
interested in, it's genuinely not worththe time. If you're not interested in
it and the audience isn't interested init, then you're not gonna make much
in the first place. You know, YouTube is not a by the hour
job. It's very much performance based. I'm purely paid based on how well
the videos do. So if Iput a bunch of work into a video

(48:35):
that doesn't perform well, it's kindof a waste of time. It's time
away from my family and my wifeand my loved ones and friends. And
so if there's genuinely not enough newsto go around or not enough topics to
dive into, then I was finejust not posting or just falling back to
more live streaming because it lets meanswer questions directly and instead of trying to

(48:55):
guess what you guys want to talkabout. I enjoy doing these personally.
I have gotten much busier obviously,but as the tech field has matured and
plateaued with innovation, I think myflexibility in my amount of free time has
opened up. So basically what I'mtrying to say is whether I'm working at

(49:16):
Tello or not, I don't thinkit will affect my posting schedule much.
Maybe a little bit. It mightpostpone video ideas a little bit. But
even before Tello hired me, itwas mainly it was mainly me coming up
with lots of video ideas for theEV channel, but struggling to find topics

(49:37):
to dive into for tech until there'san Apple event, and then of course
there's a lot of more things totalk about. But don't worry. I'm
not going anywhere. I'm still here. When there's interesting things that I feel
like I have something to say on, I'll talk about them. If you
suggest something and I don't make avideo on it, it's probably because I
don't feel comfortable or confident enough tocomment on it or feel like I have

(50:00):
much to add to the conversation,in which case making a video about it
would just kind of be noise,just be like me echoing what other people
have already said, so debatably arguably, Nicholas, I don't think I ever
really not at least recently. Idon't think I was a full time YouTuber.
I was always kind of a parttime YouTuber. So now I'm part

(50:22):
time YouTuber, part time social media. Well, at least that's what the
badge says. When I went tothe plug and Play event to represent Tello,
they never gave me like an officialtitle, but at least on my
badge it says social media marketing.So I don't know. I don't know

(50:42):
if I don't think they wanted meto use the term. I'm not the
chief of marketing. That's a differentkind of role. But I am pretty
much in charge of all the socialmedia stuff. Sending much love with the
new position. The work life balanceyou have mentioned is very important. Happy
for you, well, thank you. I appreciate it very much. I
appreciate all the support. It's avery different kind of work, I must

(51:05):
say. It's could there's some overlapwith YouTube work, but not much.
Honestly, it's like running a socialmedia network based around essentially one product is
very very different from running a channelthat talks about all kinds of different products
and brands and companies. And I'mlearning a lot more about things that go

(51:30):
on behind the scenes of companies andstruggling a lot with the whole like,
oh, can we talk about this? No we can't. Why not?
Because in the YouTube space it's almostthe opposite. You're constantly looking for new
and exciting developments and wanting to divemore into those topics, like let's talk
about the slimmer iPhone, or let'stalk about the next generation Apple Vision,

(51:51):
or what's the Apple Watch ten gonnalook like? And do so we're constantly
grasping for what's the most interesting topicsin the news, and let's dive in
today and then with working at astartup company. It's like they're telling you
and you're constantly learning these amazing,exciting things, but then you can't talk

(52:13):
about any of it. They're like, no, we gotta wait on this.
We can't share this yet. Wegotta wait on that. We'll share
it later, but not yet.And it's like, h it goes against
all of my YouTuber instincts to learnall of these cool and exciting things and
not be able to talk about them. It's frustrating. It's sometimes it's like,
come on, I'm getting used toit. I'm learning. This livestream

(52:36):
title is giving me massive flashbacks toa mac Rumor's forum post from twenty twenty
titled are we being too hard onthe seven to twenty P web? I
think I remember that, but II feel like I kind of agree because
at least for a while there alot of people have pretty crappy internet connections,
so video calls rarely are actually loadingat ten ADP for a lot of

(52:59):
people. Even though they all sayI need a ten ADP webcam, come
on, it's twenty twenty. Ineed a HD webcam. And it's like,
pay attention to the bitrate on yourFaceTime and zoom calls. It's probably
not ten ADP anyway, but that'snot the point. It should have it.
Yes, I'm glad we have itnow. I'm using a ten ADP
webcam right now and i think itlooks pretty good. Let's see for what

(53:22):
I use my iPad pro for.I'm not complaining about ipeds. That's it.
If Apple ever adds macoes supports tothe ipet pro, I would get
the one terabyte, thirteen inch percent. There you go, Thank you,
Michael. That's exactly what I've beensaying, is like increasing the functionality of
IPEd os would only drive sales higher. It can't hurt anything. In my

(53:44):
opinion, what do you have tolose by adding macOS. All I could
potentially hear people say is oh,it gets confusing, And I'm like,
well, just bury it in settings. Make it a developer thing. It's
not something Grandma's gonna accidentally turn on. You go to settings, you go
to General, you scroll to thebottom. There's an option that says switch
to download mac os and it couldonly be on the five twelve or the

(54:06):
one terabyte iPad pros. You makeit really hard to find so that only
the super nerds know about it,and then you please all the YouTubers,
and you please all the geeks outthere because they get to say yes,
Finally, I can do all ofthese pro things on my iPad that I
couldn't do before. And then ifyou're worried about iPad wes getting too confusing,
nothing really changes for the everyday person. I'm not saying it has to
be this day one, like thesecond you turn on the iPad, it

(54:30):
has to ask you do you wantmac O West or iPad? A wet
no. For the most part,everything just stays the same, and then
there's just a backdoor option to unlockall of those little nerdy things that we
asked for. I'd love to playHalo with people in the titles of Discord.
That does sound very fun. Lasttime I played Halo was for my
friend's bachelor party and it was great. But both me and him are crazy

(54:52):
busy, so I'm afraid I don'thave much time for gaming. I haven't
even had time to catch up onmy favorite TV shows. That's how busy
I've been. But it's a goodbusy busy. Hanging out with friends and
family that are in town visiting orI'm out of town visiting. Do I
feel iPhone leaks have been at arecord low this year compared to the last
six to seven years. Well tofind load. Do you mean like accuracy

(55:12):
or excitement or what, because Iwould say they've been roughly pretty accurate over
the years. Most of the iPhoneleaks have been pretty I mean, there's
little things they get wrong here andthere, but generally speaking, the iPhone
leaks end up being mostly correct.Mentioning, understanding what you can and cannot

(55:35):
share details on with your new jobmust be what tech YouTubers who have NDAs
on products feel on the daily basis. It's yeah, you're right, it
is probably similar what YouTubers are experiencingwhen they have those embargoes. But I
think the harder part is most YouTuberswho have to sign those NDAs have a
release time. It's like you getto review this iPad before it comes out,

(55:58):
or you get to review this phonebefore it comes out, but it's
usually like a couple weeks later thatthey do get to talk about everything,
whereas a lot of the stuff I'mtalking about with the people at Tello I
don't get to talk about for months, possibly years, maybe longer, that
there's certain patented stuff that As afan of technology and innovative design and as

(56:22):
a fan of radical rethinking of tech, that's why I was so into Apple
in the first place, was becausetheir products had that emphasis of you know,
think different, Apple changing things somuch like we're going to go gesture
control, or we're moving to faceID instead of touch idea, or we're
going all in on multi touch.We don't need keyboards anymore. And Apple

(56:45):
finding ways to reinvent categories and findingways to make things do more with less.
Just that essentialism, that efficiency mindsetalways attracted me to Apple and Tesla.
Honestly, a lot of Tesla decisionsis similar, and there's a lot
of those kinds of design decisions thatI've seen go on internally at Tello,

(57:09):
and a lot of it's patented andis not allowed to be shared because it's
like proprietary stuff, And I'm like, ah, I want to As a
fan of technology, it's super funto know what's going on behind the scenes
and learn about this stuff. There'sa bunch of things I'm learning about that
I wouldn't have known otherwise just becauseit doesn't come up in the YouTube space,

(57:32):
but when you're learning about a productthat you're helping promote, it's like,
oh, I do kind of needto know how all this stuff works.
But it's something I've had to talkto the engineers quite a bit about.
There's a lot of talk where theylove telling me about things that I
can't talk about, and I'm like, that's so cool, thank you,
but please don't share with me allthis stuff that I can't say, because
that just gets me excited and Ican't do anything about it. I have

(57:55):
to. It's hard for me asa YouTuber who's you know, for the
past over seven years, I've beendoing YouTube as my only job, really,
and everything in my heart wants tosee exciting news and then share exciting

(58:15):
news, and this is fighting againstthat inclination, which is difficult. But
let's see, you didn't clarify yourquestion earlier. I'll say, ill,
but I have not read or learnedmuch about the cf CMF phone one.
But my I'm sorry. I've beendriving a lot and working a lot in

(58:37):
the past forty eight hours, soI don't I haven't had time to catch
up on all the latest videos.But is there a reason you guys are
excited. Should I talk about ShouldI talk about the CMF phone? Sorry,
I keep wanting to say, Yeah, it looks unique. I like

(58:58):
the idea of it being kind ofmodular and you can pop it off and
stuff. I'm so jazzed about thenext generation of car Play. I hope
Tello Trucks implements it into their system. I don't want to give away too
much because I'm not speaking as Telloon behalf of Tello right now. This
is a Telos of Tech live stream. But Tello very much likes CarPlay.

(59:19):
They appreciate CarPlay so expects the expectedtime. After time, Apple drops hints
about iPad and lets us down,like, what what do you mean hints?
It's not that interesting of a phone, just unique design and two hundred
dollars. It has a decent chipand one hundred and twenty Here it's O
LED which is nice. Plus nothingOS is a lot better than the software

(59:42):
on most two hundred dollars phones.That does sound nice, good screen,
good chip. Okay, that thatdoesn't surprise me or interest me that much.
But what I correct me if I'mwrong, because I probably am.
But what excited me about the pictures? I saw of it was that they

(01:00:04):
had just exposed screws on the back. Does that mean that you can unscrew
the back and just replace the batteryreally easily, or I don't know,
do something modular with it. Don'tIt looks kind of cool. It's kind
of the same concept of the nothingphone. It's like, why did why
was this successful? I don't knowbecause it kind of looks different, But
in the end, it's just aphone. You know, you don't really

(01:00:27):
look at the back. Most peopleget a case anyway, and there's no
NFC. Oh yikes, Okay,that does kind of put it in gimmick
territory. NFC is kind of likea pretty basic standard thing. Yeah,
I use I use the digital walleton my phone quite a lot, so
I'm afraid to say it, butI think that would kind of be a
deal breaker for me. I wasalmost interested. The price is very tempting.

(01:00:49):
I must say. You can't replacethe battery. It's purely for changing
your color. Oh dang, that'sa missed up portunity. But is the
CMF on the one with the dialon the side. You can add a
wallet, lanyard or kickstandoo kind ofjust sounds like a worse version of mag

(01:01:13):
safe, or I guess some morestructured version of mag safe. Appreciate you
not forcing content. Can't count thenumber of times I think this video is
only to push their sponsor. Yeah, I have a hard time doing that.
I really only like making videos whereI feel like the topic is at
least somewhat interesting. I'm definitely nottrying to make the case that every video

(01:01:35):
I post is like the most excitingengaging thing ever. But you know,
talking about the Apple Watch reports aboutOkay, there's multiple years in a row
now where we thought the Apple Watchwas gonna be a big redesign and then
it ends up not. So weshould talk about leak culture and leak community
a little bit. And then alsowe talked about what was the other Oh,

(01:01:57):
the A eighteen chip. Again,I'm not like staying up late at
night dreaming about the A eighteen Jim, but it is an interesting in my
opinion, at least, maybe becauseI'm a nerd or a geek, but
I found it a little bit interestingthat in the iPhone fourteen series they stopped
putting the latest chip in the entrylevel iPhone. But now the reports are
saying Apple's going back to putting thelatest chip in the entry level iPhones.

(01:02:20):
So it's like so many different styles, and I've been very critical in Apple
Intelligence, so to try to playDevil's advocate and kind of argue against myself
in that video that I posted lastweek, I think on fourth of July
or whatever, I wanted to talkabout how well one of the unintended consequences
of Apple Intelligence that's actually kind ofnice is that it somewhat forces Apple to

(01:02:44):
put more ram and better chips inthe latest phones, so you no longer
have to worry about getting the lastyear's chip if you end up going with
the non pro iPhone sixteen. SoI'm like, okay, hey, I
was critical towards Apple and Intelligence,saying this is a stupid marketing gimmick,
but actually turns out we might getsome perks out of it. So those

(01:03:07):
kinds of videos are like, yeah, they's somewhat interesting to me. They're
not like jump up and down exciting, but I wanted to talk about them.
But sometimes I'll reach a three daywindow where I'm looking at the news
and I'm like, we kind ofwe talked about that. We talked about
that. So if I have time, I'll do a live stream, but
if there's time I could be spendingwith my friends or family, then I'm

(01:03:29):
sorry. I'll prioritize that. Iwish I could hang out with all of
you in person. That would beso fun, all of my Well,
it wasn't too long ago. Ithink it was just last month. I
met Michael Burkhardt in person and anotherviewer of the channel, Shay, and
it was so much fun, likejust talking about software and hardware that we're

(01:03:51):
interested in, and the in personstuff is always amazing, and I always
will choose that if I can.And at the end of the day,
I wish I could not think aboutwhat's monetizable and I could not think about
bills and income and expenses and thatkind of thing. But unfortunately that's just
kind of the way the world works, and I have to be somewhat conscious

(01:04:13):
with income and expenses and stuff likethat. But in a perfect world where
everything's just kind of working the wayi'd like, I mainly look at it
as the live stream time is anefficient way that I can interact with a
bunch of my friends all at once, and I can get your guys' ideas
and impressions. There's Randy Say LUsof Tech and Randy Nexus should collaborate.

(01:04:34):
We should start a podcast. Oh, Randy says he's about to drop a
video about this live stream topic.Interesting, I need to catch that one.
Some Apple intelligence features were supposed toship in Beta three, but they
pulled them last minute. Doesn't surpriseme. Large language models are fickle beasts.

(01:04:56):
Yeah, that meetup was great.Neither of us had plans that day,
so it was extremely Yeah, No, it was fantastic. It worked
out wonderfully. But yeah, Ialways just feel like if I could choose
between I'm interacting with my friends hereand then when we get sick of each
other, when we're done talking abouta topic, because we all have other

(01:05:17):
lives and other friends and family wehave to talk to, then we go
our separate ways, and then I'llhang out with my other friends and family.
And a perfect world would just begoing throughout the day and interacting with
the people you respect or love orcare about. You know, that would
be heaven to me. We alljust get together and talk about things we

(01:05:39):
like and don't like, and yeah, it's just the human experience. But
because I can't make a living offof just meeting up with my friends.
This is pretty much the closest thingI have to that is being a content
creator. You find other people interestedin the same things, and you try
your best to engage with them andinteract with them, and you share your
thoughts than you guys, sure yoursback. It's a good system. I'm

(01:06:02):
very grateful for it, and Inever really want to stop doing it.
My mind might change in the future, I don't know. At least in
this moment, I don't feel likeI'll ever get tired of it. Maybe
one day I'll get tired of it, especially when people start making fun of
you or calling you names, whichI had a lot of yesterday, sadly,

(01:06:24):
or the day before. That's whenit gets hard, when everybody's just
being mean to you. But that'sjust when you need to just take a
break, just step away from socialmedia and focus on the people who actually
care about you. Let's see,I wouldn't watch a video with that title?
Which title? Did I see nikaiasMolina's video on why the iPad doesn't

(01:06:48):
e macoes? I haven't, butI would love to watch it. I
already disagree. By the way,I haven't seen it but I've yet to
hear a compelling argument, and ifthere was a really compelling argument in the
video, I probably would have heardit by from someone else by now,
because I've been arguing with so manypeople about this exact same thing for years

(01:07:13):
and really says I care. Thatwould have been a better name than Apple
Care. The Tesla community was insane, and your replies on it, yes,
it was. I agree they werehere. I am just trying to
share the experience of like, hey, this isn't very good, this kind
of sucks, and everybody just hatesyou for it. It's like, so

(01:07:40):
when FSD does something great, weall praise it, and if it does
something bad, we blame the operator. I don't really like the system we
got going here. We've kind ofbuilt the narrative around it that it is
flawless and it can do no wrong, and I don't think that's productive.
And I want FSD to be goodand I want Tesla to improve it.
But I think you cannot improve software, especially software that you want to do

(01:08:03):
all these amazing things, without beingcritical. You have to highlight its weak
points in the edge cases. Honestly, talking about how great it is is
not that valuable. That's something I'veactually had a little bit of experiences.
This is going to sound selfish andegotistic. I'm just warning you now.

(01:08:24):
I'm very humble. Okay, I'mthe most humble man out there. Sorry,
I'll leave the Trump impressions to Randy. But the people that I work
with at Tello have been very respectfuland very complementary of my work. I
keep submitting videos to them and showingthem what I'm working on, and they

(01:08:45):
pretty much all say, yeah,that's great. Keep doing what you're doing.
You're doing a great job. AndI keep going I need more feedback
than that, you know. Iget some feedback from the comments on social
media, but most of it isabout the product, not about me and
how the content is produced. ButI actually prefer having some constructive criticism.

(01:09:06):
It's not constructive criticism to just callpeople names, which is what was happening
in the Tesla community over the weekend, where they're just mad at you and
call you stupid and call you anidiot. And that's different. But when
people are genuinely saying I don't likethe way or I don't like the way
you handle this or this part ofthe video is repetitive, or you should
try to do more of this.I like getting some feedback so that I

(01:09:30):
can understand how to improve the product. And I'm realizing, like when you're
working a new job, if peoplejust say Okay, you're fine, you're
doing great, you can't grow muchfrom that. You don't know what to
do next. So I'm kind oflike, Okay, come on, I'm
ready for some more advice. Andso they did give me some advice,
but yeah, it wasn't as muchas I was hoping. So in the

(01:09:53):
same way, you know, whenTesla's experimenting with state of the art software
like this, that's attempting things thathave ever been attempted before, I think
you actually should highlight the shortcomings muchmore than the successes, because from what
I've learned testing the software, thesuccesses may not be as consistent as you

(01:10:14):
think. You may think it's figuredout a certain area, but then go
through that exact same area at adifferent time of day and then it performs
much worse. So it's like,yeah, you thought you thought it had
it figured out, and then itturned out it didn't. Quinn's quote didn't
feel as forgiving as it could have. Been, but it was something.
I do think it was my fault. As far as the tweet was concerned

(01:10:36):
with the wording, I was veryticked off and I was very emotional when
I wrote it because I was veryfrustrated at the entire situation. And I
think a lot of people interpreted thetweet, which I don't think I was
wrong in in how I phrased it, but I do think people interpreted it
as, oh, Drew doesn't thinkhe's responsible, he doesn't think he's long

(01:11:00):
liable, he's wrong about that,when in reality, yeah, I knew
it was my fault. I knewI was in the wrong. My point
was the fault was trusting the systemin a place where it shouldn't have been
trusted. The fault was not alack of paying attention, which is why
I was so frustrated. Was becausemost of the community's response was pay attention

(01:11:20):
next time, and it's like,I'm always paying attention. I've never received
a single strike. Everybody was inthe car that can testify, like,
yeah, I was hands on wheel, eyes on road, and sometimes that's
not enough. But yeah, Iappreciated Quinn being more sympathetic. Yeah he

(01:11:41):
was Quinn's a great guy. Iactually did just watch his cyber truck review,
and I thought he did a fantasticjob reviewing it. I pretty much
agree with everything he said in thatvideo. Te Lusef Trump, Oh God,
I would love to go. Iknow it's in action, you're in
stuff, but I would love togo one day in my life where I

(01:12:02):
don't hear his name. It wouldbe so satisfying. I just if it
just never came up. Same withBiden. When people call me names,
I just laugh because we all knowthat I'm not insert insult here. And
it results in the commentary looking likea complete idiot. That's a good way
to look at it. Remember thatif people are resulting to name calling,
it's probably because they've run out ofany other genuine criticism. Pay attention more.

(01:12:30):
Yeah, the whole pay attention thingis funny to me because it's like,
there's so many things you can bedoing while driving and still be paying
attention and still not see that something'sgoing on. You know, in my
particular case, the pothole was offto the side of the road. You're
not staring off at the side ofthe road every time you drive. You're
looking at the horizon, you're lookingin your mirrors, you're looking at your

(01:12:51):
spinometer, You're looking at all thesedifferent things at once. So you can
absolutely be paying attention and still notrealize that the cars drift off. Now,
I know that Tesla's not designed todetect potholes, but it is designed
to stay on the road, andin that particular instance, it was not
staying on the road. You literallysaid you wanted to see what FSD would

(01:13:12):
do. I mean you had topay attention to figure out what it would
do, right. Yeah. Ithink people all just have this vision in
their head that I turn on FSDand then I pull out my phone and
just start WOA to did something andit's like, no, you could.
I turned it on and I'm likedoing this and I'm watching and I'm looking
and then oh that's not boom.That's essentially what happened. Almost at exactly

(01:13:36):
that pace. It's like, Okay, it's working, it's driving. That
was really cool. We went throughthe construction zone. It was following the
cons that was great. Oh,it probably shouldn't be dripping. It was
about that fast. That's how itall unfolded. It was like by the
time I had recognized that there wasa problem, it was already too late.

(01:13:59):
There was no way to correct theproblem at that speed, at that
time, with that visibility. Butit would have been completely avoided had the
car focused more on maintaining distance withthe center line instead of trying to be
centered between the two lines, whichis a consistent problem that not just I
have experienced, lots of other peoplereported very similar issues. That the car

(01:14:20):
is the car software is designed tostay equal distant from the left and right
lane on the road, whereas that'snot how you're supposed to drive, at
least in my experience. Roads arereally crappy. Would have happened to human
drivers? Do I watched one hundredcars drive by the exact same stretch of
road and not a single one hitthe pothole. That's all I'm saying.

(01:14:43):
I had FSD been disengaged, therewouldn't have been a flat tire in a
damage room. Anyway, we gotto get Drew to go back to an
ICC two. I don't ever sinceI got Type C on this thing,
it's going to be really hard toget me to downgrade. I'm sorry,
I like downgrading. It's fun togo back a little bit and see what

(01:15:04):
phones used to be like. Butnow that I'm using my phone for work,
it's it's tough. It's gonna bea tough justification. My car will
be paid off in about five years. Then I will look at a model
Y or Rivian R two or Rthree. Ooh, good choices. It
just started working on the refresh modelY. I'm excited for that one.

(01:15:25):
That's gonna be good. I'm curiousif FSD would stop the car, if
the road would suddenly collapse in frontof it. Probably not based on my
experience, but Drew recently replaced threequarter tires, might as well do the
last one. We did. Actually, yeah, we just the two rear
tires were brand new, so wejust replaced the two front tires. But

(01:15:48):
the fricking service center put winter tireson them without telling me. And we
were in a hurry because my wifehad to get back to work today,
so I was driving until three amlast night. It was crazy. It's
not safe, but we had appointmentsand we had people waiting on us and
family counting on us, so therewas there was no option. We basically

(01:16:11):
got it to the service so thecar hit the pothole, which was my
fault, but the car was driving. I understand. It was Saturday night,
so there were no service technicians availableSaturday evening, and there were no
service technicians available all day Sunday,and we were planning to drive back Monday,

(01:16:31):
so we dropped it off at theservice center. I called them all
day Sunday. Their salespeople were there, ironically, so they will sell you
a car on Sunday, but theywon't service your car on Sunday. I
personally think that's really backwards and messedup, but whatever. So we were
supposed to leave super early Monday morningbecause it's like a you know, fourteen
to fifteen hour drive, and wecouldn't leave obviously because the car was still

(01:16:56):
damaged and still at the service center. And I'm calling them right as they
opened, right at a and I'mlike, hey, this is an emergency.
We have family members expecting us,and we have work that we have
to get to, my wife's joband stuff, so we really need this
to get fixed as soon as possible. We're basically going to lose money every
hour that we don't get this fixed. And they were like, okay,

(01:17:19):
I understand, and they didn't wantto move me up in the queue until
I talked to a different technician andhe was like, oh, you're in
a hurry, and I'm like,yeah, that's what I told the other
guy, and he was like,oh, well, we could probably fix
that. So you just have tobe there. If you're not at the
service center, they won't be urgentwith you. They'll just take as much

(01:17:40):
time as they need. You know, they'll just be like, yeah,
we'll get to you. But unlessyou stand there and you're like staring like
hey, i gotta go, likethis is time sensitive, I'm already running
late, then they'll actually work onthe car. And yeah. He said,
yeah, we have your tires instock we can replace, and I
said, just replace the left onetoo, because that's the only tire left

(01:18:02):
now from the original set. Sowe don't need two newish tires, one
brand new tire and one really oldtire. Let's just get two new tires
for the front, since we justhad two new tires for the back.
So they put them on and itwas already running late. It took way
longer than they said it was goingto take, and we had to start
the fifteen hour road trip at likeeleven am, so we were driving super

(01:18:27):
late into the night. But assoon as I got the car, I
basically rushed to get back to myparents' place so that we could pack up
and get my debt. And mydad joined me on this trip, so
I didn't really even have time.I just look. I just ran out
to the car and I'm like,Okay, the tires are on, It's
good to go. I get insidethe car. There's no low pressure warnings
or anything like that. The caris driving and feels smooth, it feels

(01:18:49):
stable. I asked them several times, is it safe? Is the tire?
Are the wheels going to be okay? We're about to take a huge
road trip, and he said,yeah, that's fine, it'll be safe.
So everything felt fine. Finally getto my parents' place and my wife
looks at the tires as we're packingup the car, and she goes,
these are winter tires. And Iwas like, you're kidding, and I
look at it and yep, sureenough, they get the winter tread.

(01:19:11):
It's not like studded tires, butyou know, the tread is deeper in
their pirellies. So now I gotwinter parrellies in the front and Michelin all
seasons in the back and we hadto go. There was no time to
go back to the service center andsay why did you put winter tires on?
We just had to go. So, like again, people were expecting
us, people were counting on us. We had appointments that we were gonna

(01:19:33):
lose our deposits on if we didn'tcome home today. So we had to
go. But at least they're nicetires. Prelly makes good stuff, not
designed for California heat. They willwear it insanely quick. I know,
I know, I'm with you.I'm not saying it's a good idea.

(01:19:56):
I'm just saying this is what Tesladid, and I had very little time
to react. Yes, I stillrock my fifteen Pro without a case hasn't
hasn't cracked yet. We'll see.Fifteen Pro is a pretty great size,
but I would like it a littlesmaller. I like the mini iPhones.
I wish they could bring those back. I do like the size of the

(01:20:17):
fifteen Pro. It's a shame they'regetting bigger, though. I'm not really
excited for iPhones getting bigger because Ifeel like with my line of work,
I'm I don't know what it's gonnawhen it's gonna happen. But at some
point I'm probably gonna upgrade again,and I know that i'll probably want the
Pro. And if I want thePro, then I'm gonna have to get

(01:20:38):
an even bigger phone. Winter tireshandle potholes better. Oh good, let
me hit some more pole. Whenthe magic keyboard with trackpad came out,
that's when I think this discourse reallystarted about IPEd os. Yeah, yeah,
I agree. That was when itwas like, okay, you're basically

(01:21:00):
giving the iPad the exact same inputconnectivity options as a Mac. I remember
before that people were saying, whydon't they add a trackpad to the iPad
And I was like, because you'reyou're confused, Like if you want a
trackpad, that's what a Mac isfor. An iPad is a touch dominant
os. I always said, that'show you define a tablet. A tablet
is a larger screen device that canonly be interacted with a touch screen.

(01:21:23):
It's okay to have a keyboard asan accessory, but the touch screen is
mandatory. But then once they addedthe keyboard and trackpad, it was like,
okay, actually, now the touchscreen is optional. Yes, it's
still very optimized for touch, buttechnically you could use your iPad for hours
and hours and hours without ever touchingthe screen. So we're blurring the lines

(01:21:44):
now between laptop and tablet. Andif you're actively now selling it, advertising
it all the time in laptop mode, then I'm gonna ask for laptop features.
Yeah, don't downgrade, just useit until it doesn't fit your needs
anymore. Yeah, it's we talkeda bit about it on the Tech podcast.

(01:22:05):
The only reason I'm tempted to kindof upgrade is just because I want
my wife. She's having a lotof issues with her iPhone ten. I
know someone earlier was asking if Louisecould come back on the channel, and
I promise you, guys, I'vebeen asking for months, please, honey,

(01:22:25):
let's let's bring you on the Techchannel and you can talk about your
iPhone ten experience. And she justjust not want to do it. She's
just said, I'll just tell youhow I feel and you can tell them.
And I'm like, honey, butthey like seeing you, and she's
like, yeah, but I don't. I don't like being on camera knowing
that there's all these Techi guys becauseI feel like I'm gonna say something wrong
or and everyone's gonna laugh at me, and I'm like, no, honey,

(01:22:46):
you won't say anything wrong, andI'll like, I'll edit it.
I'll make sure you don't. You'renot gonna embarrass yourself. People love it
when you're on the channel, andshe just does not want to do it.
I promise you. I've tried overand over again, but she was
surprisingly willing to be on camera forthe latest Tails of Life video where she
cut her hair. I cut herhair. Actually I cut my wife's I

(01:23:08):
cut most of my wife's hair off. So if you want to see more
Louise, She's on Telos of Lifesomewhat recently, but that was a lot
of build up. That was likemonths and months of her prepping and saying,
Okay, we're gonna do the video. We're gonna do the video,
and I want to say it thisway and I want it to be shown
like this. So she's not likesuper comfortable on camera like I am.

(01:23:29):
But occasionally if it's something she feelsa bit more comfortable with, or it's
a field that she feels like I'mmore at home at than Honestly, I'm
surprised She's still willing to appear onsome channels. Drew's wife hates us confirmed?
Yeah, pretty much. My wifehates all of you. No,

(01:23:53):
I'm kidding. She loves you guys, but she just feels very uh what
do you call its connected from ourlingo? Our community? Did Louise feel
differently about being on camera when youguys checked out Aptera a little bit?
I think it's she doesn't mind itas much when she's just like in a

(01:24:14):
quick cutaway shot in the Aptera video, she was just in it for a
second or two. She has moreissues when it's like the whole video is
centered around her. If we satdown and I just said, okay,
today we're gonna talk about my wife'sexperience with the iPhone ten, that would
be like, okay, too muchattention on me. Louise doesn't mind weighing

(01:24:34):
in from behind, being like I'mgonna say this and I'm gonna say that,
but she definitely prefers being behind thecamera. She's quite the camera woman
though. She loves taking pictures,and usually if she's recording videos, she'll
say, no, we have toframe it this way and make sure it's
like this, and make sure it'slike that. So she has an eye.
She has an eye for the camera, but she definitely doesn't like being

(01:24:56):
on bring her back. She didgreat filling in for you that one rumor
recap video. Yeah, the onlyreason she agreed to do that was because
I was super sick, and Iagreed to script the entire thing. So
that whole video she did when shesubstituted in for me was completely written by
me, even the jokes, eventhe even the bits that we worked in

(01:25:18):
there. I had to write thewhole thing out on an iPad and then
she basically read it like a teleprompter. Louise should have been at plug and
play. I know she wasn't,but would have been cool. Yeah I
wanted her to. Yeah, Iwould have happily brought her along, but
she had work that day. Butdon't ever assume that I'm trying to keep

(01:25:41):
her off camera. I very muchhave told her time and time again she's
always welcome. I would love forher to be on camera for every video
because I love hanging out with her. She's funny and she's great and I'm
glad I married her. But she'sjust I'm trying to be respectful, but
Yeah, she did a great job. I agree. She doesn't like being

(01:26:02):
the center of attention, basically correct. Yeah, let's see, didn't know
you were a barber. Oh,I'm definitely not a barber, but I
did cut most of her hair off. Oh it's because of the price.
Well, as you know, thereare ways. It's fun watching you guys

(01:26:26):
go to Tesla's showrooms. I likethe Model three refresh and cyber truck videos.
You guys should check out the cybercabthing once it shows up. I'm
very excited for the cybercab, notbecause I'm excited for robotaxis, but mainly
because I want Tesla to make asuper cheap, super small I like small
cars. That's why I'm a bigfan of Tello. That's why I bought
the Model three over the Model Whywas because I like smaller form factors.

(01:26:49):
I've driven big cars. Just tobe clear, i've driven the cyber truck.
I've driven a Rivian. Rivian's notbig. But I for my old
job before YouTube and I worked ona Mansin Ranch, I had to drive
an F three to fifty pretty regularly, pretty often. I've driven F one
fifties too. Pretty recently. Ihaven't driven an F three fifty in a

(01:27:09):
while, but when I drove aroundthat F three fifty, I just I
hated it. I hated the lackof visibility. I hated feeling like a
tank. I hated feeling like I'mnot sure how much space there is should
I keep backing up. I'm justa big fan of smaller vehicles that are
efficient and practical and utility focused.And I think from what I'm gathering from

(01:27:31):
both the book and the rumors surroundingthe Tesla community, they're designing a vehicle
that could become the Robotaxi. Butif Robotaxi takes too long, they could
easily add a steering wheel and pedals. But it'll be steer by wire,
of course, because if it's aRobotaxi, it has to be able to
steer by itself because there's not goingto be a person controlling it. And

(01:27:53):
I honestly, it was probably myfavorite feature of the cyber truck when I
drove it. I think it looksbeauty, but that's not really a feature.
I think they're gorgeous. I sawlots of them on my last road
trip. There were a ton ofthem at the service center, not for
delivery. I want to try tonormalize that there are Americans that like smaller

(01:28:14):
vehicles. I know it's the typicalcliche American like big car, but I
want to prove that there is agrowing community of like people who like smaller
efficient vehicles. Even in the US. We're a big melting pot, right,
We've got lots of different ideas,like a lay I wrote it with
a strike. Does that timestamps featurenot support that? I don't know.

(01:28:35):
I'm not sure why it didn't showup. You'll get more views if she's
the main character of tech Oh.I agreed of any channel. Really.
I mean, Louise is just likeamazing, so of course we'd get more
views. She just doesn't like beingthe center of attention. We basically need
my nerdy thoughts and ideas to comeout of her mouth. That's the key

(01:29:01):
that sounds horrible. I'm not gonnarepeat that. Yep, you can theorize
at all you want, it's notgonna happen. I'm telling you I straight
up. One point was like,honey, do you think we could do
the interview video about the iPhone ten? And she said something along the lines

(01:29:21):
of ask me next month. Itwas like she said, I have a
lot I'm focused on right now,and I have to prep myself. I
have to psych myself up for thosekinds of videos, and I don't feel
ready for it for it yet.Do I see the tech channel growing anymore?
It's still growing. It's I mean, it's not popping off like crazy,

(01:29:44):
but we're we have more subscribers thanwe did a day ago. Let
me see. I think I havea list because Social Blade made it harder
to keep track of milestones. Wheredid it go? Sit down here Taylor's
of tech milestones. Here you go. If I scroll at the bottom of

(01:30:05):
this, you can see every Idon't know if you should count subscriber count,
but uh, every date that wegained another thousand subscribers. So we
hit two fifty eight thousand in Mayto fifty seven thousand and April to fifty
six in February. So definitely notlike exploding, which I don't think really

(01:30:29):
many tech channels are anymore because ofthe news trying up. But is the
Mister Beast version of Social Blade anybetter? I don't know. I haven't
looked into that. One heading towork says for real though, take for
real dough. Thanks for tuning in. Appreciate it. I think the biggest
thing I've driven was a Chevy Colorado, and not for long periods. My
first car, which I drove forfive years, was less than one hundred

(01:30:51):
inch wheelbase. Wow, less thanone hundred that's cool. I was in
Model three taxi twice. Backseat legroom was not comfortable. I didn't like
it. The Chevy bolt was comfortable. Well, that makes more sense.
The bolt is taller the threes lower. But yeah, my wife and my

(01:31:13):
sister sat in the back of theModel three for like fifteen hours yesterday.
They seem fine. They slept fora lot of it. I feel like
you've hovered around two fifty k foryears now. Let's see, I hit
two fifty k in February of lastyear. I was at two hundred thousand

(01:31:33):
and twenty twenty, so I gainedfifty thousand subscribers in about three years.
Not great growth, but we're notshrinking unless you go by maybe views or
watch time, and then we're probablydrinking anyway. Remember when people told you

(01:31:54):
told people to unsubscribe last year andpeople were worried for your mental health when
you were trolling. Yeah, thesubcount really doesn't translate to anything, by
the way, for the algorithm oryou know, it's purely just for boosting
people's egos and credibility. A lotof people attach their self worth to their
subcount, which I think is dumb. So I intentionally didn't want people who

(01:32:18):
didn't want to be subscribed to besubscribed. So I just think a lot
of people had probably hit subscribe whodidn't mean to or didn't want to.
So I said, let me tryto actively convince people to unsubscribe, and
it didn't work all that much.I lost probably like one hundred subscribers out
of you know, two hundred andfifty thousand. Jonah Hammond says, my

(01:32:39):
mother owns a Chevy Suburban and Ihate driving it. She was an excuse
dowing a massive car, though she'sdriving around tons of people and does along
road trips often. I get it. I just don't think you need a
big vehicle in order to do thosethings, at least technologically speaking. But
yeah, I love driving smaller vehicles, and I like steer by wire.

(01:33:00):
The idea of Tesla making a smaller, cheaper car with steer by Wire gets
me very very excited. So Icannot wait to see it less than a
month. Actually, they're gonna unveailit on August eighth, so I know
that when they unveil it, they'reprobably gonna be bragging about how great of
a robotaxi it'll be, and I'llbe like, yeah, hey, yeah,
whatever, but add a steering wheeland pedals to this thing. Come

(01:33:24):
on, yeah. I mean,if it does become a robotaxi, though,
and it does effectively work, it'llprobably just be in a few cities
at first, and I'd be happyto ride one around. That'd make a
fun video. Now, I don'teven have to buy the car. You
probably can't buy the robotaxi because it'sfar more profitable for them to just treat

(01:33:44):
it as a taxi cab. It'llmake thirty grand a year and then ten
years who made three hundred grand orwhatever. So I would just ride around
in it, make a video aboutthat, and just check it out in
person. She uses every inch ofthe storage on road trips, plus loading
uggage on the roof. I understand. I'm just saying that smaller vehicles,

(01:34:05):
you can make vehicles a lot smallerwithout compromising on the storage space. Lucid
gravity is a good example, muchsmaller than a suburban, but probably close
to the same amount of storage space. There's a lot of things that start
making sense when you get rid ofa combustion engine, but rim damage that's
the sucky part. I still don'tknow how the cyber truck legally sold,

(01:34:27):
because last I checks here by wiretechnically isn't even legally yet. Where did
you see that? Is my question? Show me the law. Anyway,
it's getting hot and people are waitingon me, so I think I'll wrap
it up here. But I appreciateyou guys for tuning in. Thank you

(01:34:48):
for your super chats all the newmembers. Is a lot of fun talking
with you all. And yes,I'm very excited for Shrek five. Gonna
talk about it on Taylor's Media becauseyeah, hail took down the whole channel
single handedly. But AnyWho, thankyou all for watching, and I can't

(01:35:09):
wait for Shrek five. Bye bye.