The Importance of iPhone SE 4

Tailosive Tech Streamed: April 30th, 2024

Episode Transcript

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcomeback to Taylor's and tech It Live on
YouTube. I'm kicking off today's livestream with the topic about iPhones. Do
you guys remember iPhones? Before thisnew age we found ourselves in of ai
and AI pins and r ones anddigital assistance that we tried to talk to

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and convince them to doing all thesethings for us. Yeah, way back
in the old days, we hadthese interesting, kind of useful products called
iPhones. Little small startup company calledApple still actually makes some of these iPhones,
a couple of them every year.They try to sell them to people

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for whatever reason. And there's beena lot of talk about their lower end,
cheaper iPhone not lately. But Ithink what I want to divert more
attention to is kind of the importanceand significance of Apple focusing more on affordable
hardware, mainly because, for one, European Union has certain standards that have
to be reached by the end ofthis year. But also it feels like

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worldwide, whether it's in the USor outside the US, a lot of
companies are a lot of company governments, agencies that kind of thing are uncomfortable
when it comes to Apple having anykind of software advantages, whether that be
you have to get your app throughthe app store, or you have to

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use our digital assistant, or youhave to use our texting app. And
Apple wants to have more and morecontrol, of course over their ecosystem,
but they're probably not going to getto keep it. EU is having things
go their way. It's very hardto win cases against the government. You
can find loopholes, but ultimately Ithink that in a world that we might

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be eventually heading towards where lots ofdifferent governments cracked down on what Apple is
allowed to software restrict, which isnot much, and there's going to be
more and more of this push towardseverything being cross compatible, no app store
exclusivity. You have to allow sideloading, you have to allow alt stores,
you have to allow software and appsand stuff that you do not manually review,

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or you have to allow super appslike we see in China. If
this trend is to continue, whatdoes Apple really have as an advantage to
buying their hardware compared to anyone else. Even if you're not a big believer
in this whole AI hype train,which I'm personally not a big one,
I don't think that this is asdisruptive as people make it out to be.

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But even if you do believe thatit is like the next big wave
of innovation or the next big disruptor, like I've heard some people say that
the generative AI or large language modelsis like the next Internet, like it's
just going to change everything. Idon't personally share that opinion, but if
you do. Maybe Apple's trying tobank on this concept of having really advanced,

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well designed neural cores built into Apple'sown custom silicon, which allegedly no
one else is really able to match. You know, TSMC is the manufacturer,
but Apple's amazing design team, amazingsilicon design team is able to achieve
these great efficiency metrics or performance metrics. And maybe more lately, that's going

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to be leaning harder and harder intoneural net training and machine learning so that
they can say, well, ourdevices can do on board you know AI
that doesn't require Internet connection, thatdoesn't require as much training data from online
you know media farming like other sitesdo, and we're able to do that

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more locally. So maybe Apple's hopingthat they can achieve better AI performance than
anybody else through neurocores, which,okay, that's one thing they can fall
back on, But I also thinkif a lot of the world is going
to start to become what happens inChina, where when we have super apps
and software companies can just double downon becoming bigger and bigger software monsters in

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the industry, and the hardware companiesaren't able to restrict anything to just their
hardware anymore. Then it kind ofbecomes a battle of price and features.
And that's why we notice that alot of the Chinese phone companies, whether
it be Shaomi or Opo or whoever, the hardware gets really competitive. They

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get really fancy cameras, really nicedisplays at very low pricing, and it's
because this is really all they haveto compete with. They can't really fall
back on any software exclusives or anyapp store features like that. It all
has to come down to the hardware, which is partly where I think the
SE four might be a sweet spotfor Apple moving forward. If software isn't

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going to be their big advantage inthe future, or the E system,
the walled garden comes crumbling down,and all of Apple's great software features have
to be accessible to the masses,and Apple can't software restrict things anymore,
then SC four might be a littlebit more important than just oh, it's
another cheap iPhone, Like, yeah, it's a bummer. It's not going
to be the mini size we allwant. But I also think that for

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one, getting USBC on a cheaperiPhone is a big move, but also
trying to bring a more premium feelto a more affordable price segment. It's
probably bigger than just SE four.It's also just like Apple's whole pricing structure
moving forward, it might have tobe rethought if Apple has to fall back

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just towards market share, which iskind of what we see with the Chinese
smartphone competition currently is it's just likeokay, whoever has the best hardware,
because you can't win much on software, and then it's just a market share
game. How many can you sell? If you can sell more than you
can afford slimmer margins so you canafford a lower price. Hopefully, so

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the future might involve a lot ofApple trying to figure out how to price
the iPhone a bit more competitively inorder to grow market share to be you
know, again, this is whatwe talked about if iOS is basically forced
to become more like Android. Well, a lot of the best selling Android
phones are the cheapest ones, soif the iPhone Realm is starting to become

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more Android like, it might involveiPhone's popular iPhones becoming more affordable, which
maybe isn't the worst thing in theworld. Thank you, simply sore for
twenty two months. I don't knowabout you, but I'm twenty two.
I'm glad I remember that. Youthink they will announce the SE this coming
event. The rumors are saying no, but I wish they would personally,

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just because I feel like it's time. There was two years between the SE
two and three. It's been twoyears since the SE three, so I
would say do it, but it'sprobably not gonna happen. Have you noticed
that the AI Cyrus uses photo descriptionsgot texted a message and a pic and

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Cyrus said blank texted blank in animage of red and white signs in front
of a tree. I have heardabout that. My friend Mike actually had
that feature start working for him recentlyand it did not work. I think
he said his mother sent him apicture of a painting and Cyrus, who
I'm saying to not say the actuals name because I hate how easy it

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is to set it off now.But Cyrus read it as your mom sent
you a picture of coyfish and itwas not coyfish. It was some plant
or something, so it got itwrong. But yes, technically they've started
doing that. Why don't they haveOLED on MacBooks? Sucks really well.

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OLT is great, but it doeshave a set of as advantages. For
one, it's more prone to burnin, and Macintosh computers tend to have
the same things on the display forlonger periods of time than a smartphone does,
so burn in is a bigger concern. It's also difficult to get O
lead, especially at larger sizes,to be bright enough to match a lot
of what Apple expects their max todo. So with XDR content, you

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know a lot of people expect theirMacBooks to be one thousand nits or maybe
up to sixteen hundred knits with certaincontent, and it's very difficult to get
oh LED displades to be that brightand not have burn in issues. But
it sounds like they're making progress becausesounds like some of the state of the
art next generation OLED tech is goingto be shipping next week, only one

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week to go, guys. TellApples May seventh event and apparently using this
dual stacked method where you kind ofhave multiple O LEAD displays on top of
each other, so hopefully that helpsalleviate some of the burn in and it
allows it to appear brighter because eachpanel is not having to get as individually
bright as you would if you justhad one panel. So there's some downsides

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to O LEAD that they're improving overtime with manufacturing and scale. The Apple
Silicon Imax at my school have burnedin from the login screen. Well they're
not O LEAD, but yeah,they can still have burning hot take.
Mini LED is so good on Macthat it'd be better if they just improve
them over changing to old Yeah,I agree. I think Mini LED,
from what I can tell, kindof kills a lot of the noticeable improvements

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of OLEAD. If you go fromLCD to Mini LED, yeah it's a
bit better. It's not quite asgood as O LEAD, but it is
better. But then when you gofrom Mini LED to o LEAD, it
doesn't feel like that drastic of achange. I mean, honestly, you
kind of have to be a nerdinside the tech bubble to actually be able
to notice the difference between LCD andOLEAD. I know there's display junkies out

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there that are like, what,it's so noticeable? Oh, lead changes
everything? But no, seriously,there's a bunch of average consumers out there
that have no idea there's a differencebetween LCD and o LED. Even if
you put the phones side by side, they wouldn't be able to notice.
I know this because I've done itwith people firsthand. A lot of people
do not know, and Minnie LEDdefinitely makes the transition less noticeable, which

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is part of the reason I don'tplan on upgrading my MacBook anytime soon.
Ryan freely says to Tesla cut abunch of the Supercharger team. No,
Ryan, that's not true. Don'tbelieve everything you read. Tesla cut the
entire Supercharger team. As far aswe could tell, very high executives at
the Tesla Supercharger Team were let go, as well as pretty much everyone reporting

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to them. All we have tobase any knowledge to believe that there are
still members of the Supercharger team.Is that Elon made a tweet claiming Tesla
still plans on expanding the Supercharger network. That's what we're basing the well,
not the entire team was laid off, is based on that tweet because everyone

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basically that I've listened to, whowho had contacts at Tesla that was aware
of people that worked at Tesla's chargingteam has pretty much been let go and
they were not given much notice,and they are not really understanding why.
It's a very confusing situation, whichis why I'm personally kind of waiting a
little bit. It feels like thestory is developing in real time right now.

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I'll probably do a video on it, but like a lot of people
were already starting to record podcasts andpost videos about it before Elon had even
made statements about it. So itseems like one of those stories that needs
to sit for a little longer.Iris told me my mother sent a picture
of a pair of two cans.Turned out the photo was a watercolored painting

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of that she created a four colorfulfish. Ten out of ten would listen
to Iris describe images all day.Hopefully she gets better. After dub dub,
well, they revived the did iPad. What is your take? No,
it's the hardware is just going tocontinue to double down. The eye
as Again, I don't think theiPad is dead. I just think it's

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not growing. Like the people whohave five year old, six year old
iPad pros really don't see any needor reason to upgrade them because a new
iPad doesn't do all that much differentfrom an old iPad, and that's why
there's not a lot of growth goingon. A lot of people buy tablets
for kids or as cash registers forbusinesses. You know, a lot of

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people, even if it's not aniPad, will just call any large touchscreen
device an iPad because it's just likethe template. Oh yeah, if you're
in a situation where it would benice to have a large touch screen,
people just kind of fall back onthe iPad. So I don't think it's
dead, but I do think thatit could grow a lot more if the

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software was enhanced in some way.But I don't think Apple's interested in bringing
over much Mac functionality to the iPad. They just want to double down as
this is for note taking, thisis for drawing, or this is just
a fun media consumption device that getssome cool hardware on the pro models.
Occasionally, when do I think theiPhone fourteen Pro series will turn up on

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Apple Certifiber Furbish. They probably knowthat it would sell fairly well, so
that's probably why they're not doing it. As my guess, captain of Team
Fridge is in the house. That'sright, simply souces. I tried showing
my dad how amazing my qd olmonitor is and he was just like,
Okay, looks fine. I guessexactly. Well, you might notice as

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you get older and your eyesight getsworse, you'll probably start or stop caring
so much about display specs and resolutionbecause the older you get kind of the
worse your eyes become at detecting thatkind of stuff. Let's see, I
don't have an iPad and would onlybuy it if it was more like the
Surface Pro with a kickstand. Well, that's a weird reason not to buy

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it, considering how cheap it isto get a little case that can prop
it up and protect it at thesame time. Anyway, But yeah,
I don't have my iPad anymore becauseI felt very much like my iPhone could
do everything I was using my iPadfor. I do think that the iPad
for a long time has been agreat way for Apple to kind of experiment

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with new hardware. I don't knowwhy they can't put it on the macfirst,
but for whatever reason, Apple feelsmore comfortable shipping more state of the
art things like these larger, fanciero LAD displays we've heard so much about.
And the next generation M four chipsounds pretty likely at this point.
If it's a week before the eventand Mark German is saying that the iPad
pro is going to ship with Mfour, pretty high chance of it happening.

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Although Mark German, yes has gottena lot of things wrong lately.
Usually the closer you are to thelaunch, the more accurate the report,
and now that the event is confirmed, it's no longer a speculative thing.
I think that we probably will getthe first M four chip, which,
like I talked about yesterday, thepositive side is, okay, the iPad
might have some hardware exclusives that it'snever had before because the M four chip

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is going to have lots of neuralcores, and maybe that'll unlock some generative
features that we can't fathom yet thatApple's been cooking on for a while.
And then the bad news is theyprobably are rushing it to market, which
means in terms of anything other thanthe neural cores. It's probably not all
that different from the M three chip. Well, don't act like by the

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wrong assumption, as you're assuming thatthe M four chip is like leaps and
bounds better than the M three.Honestly, I could be wrong. But
if it is true that the Mfour is ready next week, which is
very quick considering the M three launchjust six months ago, it's very very
likely that it's not really using anew manufacturing method, especially if it's in

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an iPad pro that doesn't have anadequate heat sinc That doesn't have a great
cooling system. It's probably not goingto be a fully unlocked M four,
which means it sounds like a andI'm talking about. It's basically means that
the performance in regards to the CPUspeed the GPU performance is probably not all

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that different from a base M three. The only difference is it can do
some more AI stuff. So don'tthink of it as why would they put
an M four in an iPad that'sso powerful? It's yeah, it's really
it's probably it's probably a side gradefrom the M three, not an upgrade
from the M three. I mean, it's technically still better, yes,
than the M three, but notin like CPU GPU tasks, not necessarily

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a big leap in efficiency tasks,but just more on device AI learning stuff.
I don't think it's just low salesfrom previous there's a reason why they're
pushing it out early. Yeah,I think they probably have seen the whole
AI hype train that's been blowing upin the media lately, just the quick

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valuation open a I was able toachieve, and they feel like, oh,
well, if you want big investmentto come into your brand, then
you have to have some kind ofAI emphasis. So Apple's trying to catch
up in some way and branding itas a new chip as M four and
saying that it's you know, AIenhanced, or like my joke, it's

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Apple Intelligence. It's a marketing ploy. It's not necessarily like a note,
the difference between the M three andthe M four might be smaller than the
M one to the M two orthe M two to the M three.
It might be the smallest year overyear chip upgrade because technically it is the
shortest amount of time between release cycles. Yeah, one week from today,

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we'll have our answers. Let's see, the M four is a technique to
ensure high sales of the iPad willnot providing macOS operating systems. Think about
it. Yeah, I think that'sactually a really good theory is that if
Apple has some really cool generative AIfeatures that only work on the M four,

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they will suddenly convince a bunch ofjournalists and YouTubers and people in the
tech community to go out and buy, you know, this sixteen hundred dollars
oh LEAD display because there are rumoredto be price hikes with this o LED
iPad because it is using some stateof the art display. Will it be
that noticeably better than many led Willit be that useful? Probably not,

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But they're gonna convince a bunch ofus to drop big money on this iPad,
which if it weren't for the AIfocus, and if it weren't for
the M four chip, a lotof people would just say, Okay,
the display is nice, but it'sstill an iPad, so what's the big
deal. But if they build insome of these generative AI features and say
we're launching this first in an iPad, and in order to access these features,

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you have to buy this new iPadbecause no Mac has the M four
chip yet, that'll probably move alot of inventory on a very expensive tablet,
especially if they're going to be shippingit with the new Magic keyboard,
which is rumored to be more aluminum, build a bit higher quality. Who
knows, that might make it moreexpensive. So these could be very very
high margin devices that they're prioritizing allof their new AI features in what that

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actually looks like. Again, Istill struggle to understand what relatable functional use
cases that Apple's thought of. Idon't know, but I've been surprised before.
Apple has sometimes been known to unveilsomething both a software feature or a
hardware feature that makes me go wow, I didn't know I wanted that.

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I didn't think I needed that,but now after trying it, it's actually
pretty useful. Would the AI featurescome to the next iPhone? Probably?
Yeah. I bet there's a hugeemphasis to double down on these neural cores
on the eighteen chip, but I'msure they will still technically work on current
day silicon. It'll just probably worka lot better. Or Apple could tease

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or release certain features that they claimyou need the latest silicon for. I'm
excited for the iPhone sc What aboutyou? Yeah, I think it'd be
the perfect phone for my wife.And if Apple wants to maintain a certain
amount of market share without the ecosystemadvantages anymore, which sounds like the corner
that a lot of the world's governmentsare going to push Apple into, I

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do think they might need to doubledown and try harder to make better value
phones, and the SE four mightbe the first step in that direction,
where hey, here's a cheaper iPhonethat still has an O LED display,
still can have face ID, stillas a great camera has USBC, maybe
has an action button instead of thecurrent SE which is very much like an

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incredibly dated iPhone that is just arecycle design from twenty seventeen, which is
seven years old now, but theyjust put a new chip in it.
It might be a little bit morecreative than that with the silicon they put
inside in the camera and stuff.Hey dad, dad's in the chat.
Help your old man understand what advantageis new hardware hardware will bring if AI

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is available through the internet free anddoing stuff on my old Apple hardware.
Yeah, it's a great point,and I think that's the main differentiating feature
Apples trying to double down on,which again I'm struggling to contemplate, because
I agree with you, Dad,most of the cool AI features people know
about are available through the web.And that's kind of my biggest complaint with

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a lot of these AI hardware productsthat are coming out is there's nothing that
exclusive to the hardware. They justhave access to a certain software stack that
they're shipping in this hardware, Butanybody could really do the same thing.
So Apples hoping with their custom silicon, just like how we transitioned away from

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the Intel processors to Apple silicon,that by having their own neural cores,
which are basically a part of aprocessor that's designated to machine learning and neural
net training, that they're able toblock AI features that wouldn't be so dependent
on the internet, that can domore things locally or more privately or more

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securely, that don't steal as muchdata maybe as current AI engines do.
Or Yeah, it's going to beinteresting to see how they navigate this or
articulate it. But yeah, youcan tell I'm not great at explaining how
Apple's going to come up with AIfeatures. I don't know. Randy kind
of explained it fairly well on theTech podcast that AI is just it's not

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a new technology. It's just kindof a hyped up new branding terminology.
Because neural cores are also not anew thing. Apple's had neural cores since
I think the A eleven chip orthe A twelve chip, which is on
the iPhone twelve, so it's beenaround for several years iPhone eleven as well.

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So as an example, that featureon our iPhones that I think I've
shown to you, Dad, thatlets you press hard on the subject,
like if there's a picture of you. I think for you it was like
you were on your motorcycle and Iwas just like, okay, I want
to put my dad riding his motorcycleon Mars. So in the photos app,
I'm able to just select that photo, lift the subject out of it,

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and then I can move it toanother photo and layer it on top
of each other. I didn't haveto, you know, download a specific
app to do that. I couldjust lift it and turn it into a
sticker. Now that's a feature thatrequires I believe it's the A twelve chip
or later, or the A thirteenchip or later. So if your iPhone
doesn't have an A twelve chip,it's unable to support that feature. So

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that's just a present day example oflike a something that Apple claims requires a
certain amount of neural course to activate. There could be more features like that
that I'm just struggling to fathom.But AI isn't new, but Apple making
a big deal about it. Peopletalk, Yeah, and it's not just

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Apple, you know. Open Aiis probably the company that mainstreamed a lot
of the talk about it and gathereda lot of investor money from it.
And that's why companies like Rabbit andHumane are trying to hijack this hype train
or you know, monetize this hypetrain the best they can. But again,
both of them, I think theproblem is they're trying to reinvent the

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wheel. They're thinking that, well, AI is this incredibly amazing technology,
so it allows us to rethink theform factor of computers. And it's like,
I don't think you really need torethink the form factor. It's just
a cool new feature that computers willhave. It's kind of like foldables in
a way, like a lot ofpeople thought, oh, wow, with
folding tech, all phones are goingto do this. In reality, it's

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like, eh, not really.I mean some will occasionally but for the
most part, everybody's still just buyinga rectangle. If I can buy gaming
laptop that allows me to play gamesand has oh that display a fast Windows
system, why would I buy aboring Mac? I agree, don't if
you want to buy a I don'tknow. It's different tools for different things.

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If your goal is to buy asports car because you like going really
fast, don't buy an F onefifty. You're not going to go super
fast. But if you want avehicle for work, and you want bedspace
or you want good ground clearance,then buy a truck that has those things.
It's just different to it. Itdoesn't make it a bad product,

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you know, It's just it's notfor what the use case is. But
yeah, if you're going for gaming, Max has never been the go to.
We need a funny AI inspired skinon one of your next fits.
I thought the last one was kindof AI focus. But how long do
I think the fourteen Pro Max willlast? Getting new features? Usually seven

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to eight years since they're launched,so probably another six years from now.
I don't think AIS had it's enoughto really be useful. It's a bit
gimmicky right now. I think that'sMy problem with it is it often has
the illusion of doing something really impressive, but it's not quite perfect. Just
like how Marquez showed in both hisAI pin review and the R one review,

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it still makes pretty obvious mistakes whereit's like, oh yeah, I
know what plant that is, oroh yeah, I know when the next
eclipse is, or I know howmuch fat is in an avocado, and
it tells you these things and they'rejust wrong, but because it says them
confidently, people are impressed by them, and that's kind of what AI is
good at. Is like, it'simpressive if you don't know much about the

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field it's talking about, but ifyou do know about those little details,
you do see the mistakes it makes, and a lot of people say,
Okay, well that's just it rightnow. But in a few years it'll
be perfect, and then it neverquite gets to perfect. It's just a
fundamental, consistent issue I've seen withmost generative AI projects is they get they

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get better than they used to be, and they show really great progress,
but it never quite it never quitestretches over to the realm of perfect.
Okay, now it's doing its intendedtask flawlessly, or you know, good
enough to be disruptive. When itcomes to AI, it's feeding out a
whole different thing. It's not atechnology that it's advanced. Its data that

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it can manipulate to understand certain complextasks, tasks including emotional interesting emotional damage.
Yeah. If full self driving isconfidently uncertain, then AI is confidently
incorrect. Yeah. As long asit sounds confident, it's impressive. Right.

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I don't know AI is good atyapping to people who don't know anything
about the subject. Yeah. Ithink people notice that if you like asking
about something you're not very well experiencedin, then you'll go, wow,
that was impressive. But then ifyou asking about something you know a lot
about, you'll go, well,no, that's not right or that didn't
make sense. So, like allkinds of new tech that we find,

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it's a tool. It helps alittle bit here and there. I don't
think it's going away. I don'tthink AI is a fad in the same
way that five G is a fad. It's like, it's not really five
G. I don't think is exactlyaccurate to call a fad, But I
would say it's like overhyped, yes, Like is it as disruptive as it
was made out to be. No, a lot of people were claiming five

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G was gonna just revolutionize everything andchange the way we use our tech.
In reality, it's just you know, a little bit faster speeds for our
phones. It's not like, youknow, a fundamental rethinking of what our
phones can do. I remember theearly days they were saying five G is
going to allow for more remote surgeriesand autonomous driving cars will be unlocked through
five G, and it was like, what are you talking about. Is

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any company planning on building a carautonomous car software off of the five G
network. I haven't seen to bethe case, But there were all these
promises and what actually happened was like, Eh, there's some faster, faster
speeds, and I think that's whatAI is. It's just it's another level

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of smart coding. It's digital assistancegetting a little bit more context a wear.
But it's not it's not like,oh, you don't even need the
phone anymore because the AI has gottenso good. It's like the AI will
enhance the phone experience, but itwon't replace it. AI hype will last
longer than the vision pro hype,But that isn't saying much well. Vision

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Pro is one piece of hardware.AI is a much broader general topic.
What do I think about this AIapp store? What about it? Do
you mean like the large action models? AI made some cool pictures for me,
but it seems to avoid things peoplewould know, like faces. Right

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again, if you're just playing aroundwith it for a few minutes, it's
kind of cool and impressive. Butthen once you get specific or you really
want it to show something, youquickly within an hour will we'll bump against
the edge cases and go, Okay, it's not good at that. It's
not good at that. But BrandonEthan, thank you so much for joining
Taylors of Tech Plus. Hope youenjoy especially a lot more. Lately,

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I've been doing early access videos forthe channel members, so thank you guys
for your support. Very kind ofyou. Do you remember when you made
a video giving Apple suggestions to savethe iPad? Why didn't Timmy listen to
you? Oh? I know,right, is his answer, which no
one thought of. The M fourand AI shows that Apple knows better.

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I mean Apple knows better. That'snot a debate. They're running the company
and they're bringing in billions of dollarsand I'm just some guy in shorts in
my office talking to my phone.You know, I don't think I know
better than anybody. I hope that'smade abundantly clear. I like sharing my
opinions on things, but I've beenwrong a lot, and I'll happily admit

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things I'm wrong about, and I'llbe happy to suggest things, as I
think everybody is entitled to an opinionand should feel free to suggest things.
I don't think that means any oneperson knows better than Apple does or but
if you can support your opinions orsupport your viewpoint with logic or reasoning,
and can articulate it in a waythat people find convincing, you know it

(31:33):
can climb its way up the ladder. Like I was advocating for USBC on
the iPhone for years before Apple actuallydid it. I remember talking about why
USBC on the iPhone would make somuch sense, even before the leaks or
rumors were coming. I remember wheneveryone said, no, Drew, they're
never going to put Type C onthe iPhone because they're just going to go

(31:53):
portless. It doesn't make sense togo Type C. Long before the EU
was trying to pass a law.I just kept saying, it would make
far more sense to have one portfor our max and our phones and just
have one cable, and it's bilateraland reversible, and it can do so
much more. It can move morepower, it can move more data.
You know, I was suggesting this. Does that mean I knew better than

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Apple? That Apple was probably awareof all of these advantages. They were
just probably trying to be somewhat strategicabout the adoption of it. But they
could have different reasons for not wantingto improve the iPad, whether it's from
product cannibalization or wanting to keep aproduct's identity more clear and concise. They're

(32:39):
clearly making plenty of money, soI don't think. I don't think I'm
like, if they did everything Isay, they would be so much bigger.
You know, there are two trilliondollar company now, but they could
be a four trillion dollar company.I don't think it's that simple. But
portless challenge never took off. Idid it for like two years. How

(33:02):
long have I been on YouTube watchingor making I've been making videos since like
two thousand and eight. I've beenwatching videos since I guess it was about
that time. Too. Remember whenthe Lake said the Iphon ten would get
wireless charging without being on a padat a certain distance. Yeah, there

(33:22):
was this. There is a longtalk for a while about doing charging over
the air. Everybody thought that techwas around the corner, and it just
turned out it wasn't. It justkind of fizzled out. Which I've seen
that kind of revolutionary technology and stuffpeople claim is around the corner and then
it just isn't. And I havea hard time getting excited for certain technology

(33:46):
because I'm just like, yeah,that's this is uncharted territory. We don't
know if it's actually going to bethat capable, or we don't know if
it's certain things like full self drivingor you know, having a chat bot
do everything for you. I justeven if the chat bot could do everything
for me, I don't think peoplewould like that. I just genuinely don't
think people want to talk to anassistant all day. Seriously, Like some

(34:10):
voice assistant stuff is handy, butsometimes people just want a display. I
mean, think of how much timepeople spend on Instagram and TikTok. It's
probably too much. And yes they'readdicted to their phones. We'll probably have
less time on TikTok soon. Butthat's not I think just gonna be suddenly
replaced by a little pin that cando everything for you, even if it

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was flawless, even if you couldtalk to it just like a person,
and it was just like the movieHer with Walking Phoenix and Scarlett Johansson,
and you just had this little designatedpersonality that was just like a human that
understood all your context, never misunderstoodyou. Even then, I think people

(34:52):
would still want a phone. Ithink people want that display so they can
look at charts, look at grafts, look at their calendar. They like
having They don't want to have toask someone for everything. And that's assuming
that the chatbot is flawless. Itis far from it. Let's see it

(35:13):
was to practice for the day Applewould remove the port completely, but never
did well. I think legally theyprobably ran into more issues than technologically.
I think the main problem with goingportless was that it didn't really help much.
It caused a bunch of new problems, but it didn't unlock much new
functionality. It's hard to sell people, especially when every year Apple's struggling to

(35:35):
figure out how do we justify peopleupgrading their phone. How do we come
up with a reason for people toupgrade? If you start taking away something
that's as useful and as vital asa port, which can get faster and
get you know, data improvements andfaster charging. If you take that away
and just say okay, now yourold phone has a port and your new
phone won't, then people just won'tupgrade. So it's hard to market portless

(35:57):
as a feature. Let's see twopoint what do you guys thinking? Two
point four thousand videos? That's juston this channel. I'm about to hit
a thousand videos on the ev channeltoo. How much will the price difference
be of the rumored anti glare screenon the iPad pro so that was a
report from Webow. I'm not entirelysure I believe it. It wasn't a

(36:22):
super reputable source, but if itis real, probably like one hundred bucks
that's what it was for the prodisplay. What if you could teach it
how to make videos on their own, at least the routine parts. I
would love that. I really hopethat becomes a feature. I don't know
if it will be, And again, like most AI features, it would
probably be really good for eighty percentof the work, but then the last

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twenty percent it would just fall shortand then I'd have to take over again.
But yeah, that would That wouldhonestly be the most compelling for my
line of work. Especially the mostcompelling generative aivre I could see is if
there was a teaching mode where Icould just say, watch what I do
here. I'm gonna I'm gonna callthis training program editing a tech video,

(37:09):
and it just watches me edit techvideos over and over and over again.
And after running that teaching mode forlike I don't know how much data it
needs ten times, twenty times,fifteen times, it could eventually just edit
a video for me. Yes,I would love That doesn't sound like a
feature they would give away for free. They're probably gonna say I need to

(37:32):
buy a new MacBook to unlock thisfeature because my m one Max can't do
it, or they would turn itinto like a Final Cut pro membership thing.
You gotta spend thirty bucks a monthunlock AI editing. I don't know.
There could be other features like that, if you could. I don't

(37:55):
know. My dad is a writer, He's written a couple books, and
if maybe you could use generative AIon your phone or your Mac or whatever
to just say, what do Ineed to do to format this book for
publishing on Amazon or publishing on Kindle, or what if the AI could do
all of that for you? Okay, I'm ready to publish my book,

(38:15):
or help me come up with acreative cover for my book or something like
that. I don't know. Thefact that AI is trying to become more
human like shows us that human interactionis still the goal. Any other style
of interface or a new way ofinteracting online will not likely be very popular.
Well, I mean I would justlook at it as like, look
at texting versus phone calls. Isn'ttexting just so much more convenient? I

(38:40):
mean, that's why you guys arein the live chat right now. It's
because it would not be convenient forall of you guys to send a voice
message to me and have me listento every single one. That would be
ridiculous and it would take forever.But it's more convenient for you to text
someone so that they can see thetext when they're ready. They don't have
to stop what they're doing and answerthe phone and talk to you. There's

(39:04):
more human interaction with a phone call, but there's a lot of convenience and
privacy benefits to the texting. Youknow, you could be in a public
place, or you could be aroundother people and send a text and you
don't have to worry about your microphonepicking up the wrong things or misunderstanding the
context. I think that a lotof generative AI features probably come across as

(39:28):
more impressive when it sounds more likea human you're interacting with. But I
still have not been that impressed withanything I've seen with the humane aipin or
the rabbit r one. They alljust feel like slightly more gimmicky versions of
the digital assistance we already have,like the Google Assistant or Alexa or Kortana
or whatever you want to call it. It's just like, oh, it's

(39:51):
that, but with a large languagemodel, So I don't see it as
incredibly disruptive or that useful. Itwould really be game changing to me if
we could stop with this whole holdthe button down, say the command,
release the button, let me thinkabout that, let me get back to
you. Okay, here's the answer. No, I would be far more

(40:14):
captivated if it was just as naturalof a conversation flow as a human being,
Like you're talking on the phone witha person. That's it. There's
so many little micro behaviors, micromannerisms. I don't know what you call
it. There's so many differences whenyou have just two humans interacting with each

(40:35):
other, even if it's over thephone on a phone call. That isn't
there with a digital assistant, becauseyou're constantly paranoid or worried that, Oh,
if I like this person is goingto confuse it, or if I
phrase it in a certain way,it's going to misunderstand the question. Let
me rearticulate the question. And Istill think we're so far away from having
like what happened in that movie Herwith Walking Phoenix. Don't worry, our

(41:00):
AI hardware will be better later everyVC start Hi Nick, by the way,
good to see you long time.Don't see did you limit yourself focusing
only on Apple? Also, howcome they haven't invited you to an event?
I talk way too much about leaksand rumors and I complain about Apple
a lot, so I don't blamethem at all for not inviting me.
Secondly, I would not go tothe events if I was an invited.

(41:22):
If I was invited. I'm notan event guy. I enjoy watching events
from the comfort of my own home. Non yeah, nonverbal cues, thank
you. There's unwritten rules about speechand communication that it's very difficult to pick
up on anytime we try to communicatewith AI. AI is software. That's

(41:44):
true for the most part. Thefuture of vision pro equals a tech landfill.
Yeah, I mean, I understandvision pro has a lot of limitations,
but so did the first iPhone.Okay, what's your honest opinion on
the future of vision Pro. Itseems like the hype has died. I
expected to hype to die down,and honestly, I think Apple did too.

(42:05):
It's a thirty five hundred dollars product. I don't think Apple is stupid.
I think they have a firm understandingon what products are popular. I
think there's a reason they restricted itto just the United States because they knew
that this is far too expensive andfar too early for it to be a
mass market adopted thing. The pointwas to lay the groundwork and to get
feedback from customers to figure out whatto prioritize for the next gen. Because

(42:30):
they've obviously been developing this thing forprobably close to a decade. So now
that it's out, they know whatthe biggest issues are that need to be
addressed for the next generation. It'sgoing to take its time, but Apple's
got lots of money and they gotlots of time, so it's not one
of those things that's like they haveto scrap the whole thing. The home

(42:51):
pod isn't even dead. And lookhow poorly that did. Remember when it
released in early twenty eighteen and wewere like, oh man, it has
all these problems and all these softwarewhere limitations come on. When is Apple
going to fix this? You wouldhave thought that'd be scrapped. But then
like years later, they said,actually not, let's just do another one.
Here's a cheaper one. But thenthey refreshed the big one too.
Didn't really fix any of our concernswith it, but they're still making them

(43:14):
and they found their little niche.But I think, honestly, spatial computing
is a lot more interesting than ahome pod. But honestly, wouldn't a
HomePod be the perfect place to shipa new AI powered thing If we're gonna
have like a voice assistant that isway more capable than I don't know anything
else we have Why not ship thatin a home pod, especially with these

(43:38):
AI pins with like, Okay,it's overheating and it's on your clothes and
that gets awkward and uncomfortable and thebattery dies. Why not build it into
a device that doesn't have a batteryfirst. And if it's going to be
speech focused, then I'm kind ofsurprised we haven't had that accessory yet.
Let's build chat GPT, or let'sbuild the Gemini into you know, a

(44:01):
Nest speaker or an Amazon Echo speaker. Let's see, you just bought a
home pod today. Hey, congratulations. I laughed at bitcoin buyers ten years
ago. I showed them how tostay poor. There you go. AI
hardware is the current version of thetwenty eighteen blockchain hype very much. I

(44:23):
agree with that. It feels absolutelylike early crypto days, except Apple is
actually getting a lot more into itthan they ever got into crypto. I
would go to an event, butbeing an Apple sheet pate, I just
I don't know. There's certain eventsI would like to attend, but not

(44:44):
that kind. I like ev events. I've been to a few, not
like unveilings, not like a Teslaevent, anything major or big, but
I've met up with startups and didlittle owners club meetups, and the more
people focused on are more fun forme, but also smaller ones because usually

(45:04):
the more people, the less personalit is, and those Apple events usually
have a lot of people, andI don't like that. So I'm not
on Tim Cook's nice list. That'sright, Let's see. I think Apple
just wanted to get some money backfrom all the R and D they did
for the Vision Pro, that's probablytrue, and they also wanted likely some
manufacturing exercise. I think Tim Cookis probably very passionate about the future of

(45:30):
spatial computing and likely realized that it'sgoing to take time to figure out how
to mass produce an incredibly complex,intricate device like this, and you know,
releasing it and getting the public's feedbackon it helps you understand, Okay,
should we double down on improving theice sight display and making that better

(45:52):
or is most of our customers sayingyou don't need that, Probably just scrap
it. You'd be fine without it. You know, you don't really know
what the mass markets are gonna sayabout this stuff until you actually release it.
There's only so much internal secretive underthe table testing and sampling you can
do from potential customers. So ifyou don't, if you don't release it,

(46:20):
at some point, you're not gonnaknow what direction or what things should
you prioritized. And now all ofthis data and all of this info that
we're getting from Vision Pro customers andreviewers is probably going to help Apple refine
and improve the next generation, whichagain this happens with every first gen product.
The first gen Apple product is rarelyvery good. Usually it's the most

(46:42):
terrible one. The worst Typha isthe first one. The worst Apple Watch
is the first one. The worstiPad is the first one. So the
worst vision OS device is the VisionPro, which is why I don't have
it. Tim Cook is a numbersguy. He isn't passionate about anything other
than growing Apple's profit. Personally,I know some people like to demonize people

(47:05):
like that. I tend not to. I mean, there's still a lot
of things Tim Cook has done thatI like disagree with. But I do
think even if you were completely offthe record, and you had signed an
NDA and you were off camera,off microphone, on a walk somewhere by
the beach with Tim Cook and y'allare just hanging out and you were getting

(47:30):
to know him better. I thinkhe's genuinely passionate about making good products in
services. I don't think personally mostCEOs of companies, I mean, some
are probably more self serving than others. But I would be willing to bet
that Tim Cook, in his heartof hearts, genuinely cares about making impactful,
useful hardware. Even though I kindof despise Elon Musk and disagree with

(47:52):
him on a bunch of stuff,and I think he's kind of destroying Tesla
right now. I still don't thinkin his heart of hearts he's trying to
think, how do I get moremoney out of people? You know,
I don't think it's that. Ithink we may disagree on what the best
things for the future of certain brandsor companies are. Like I think a

(48:13):
big a big miss is Apple notdoubling down in the EV industry. Tim
Cook probably sees pursuing the mixed realityspatial computing space as more safe because a
lot of the technology can translate andbe carried over from what they've learned from
smartphones. You know, smartphones isrefining them and improving them over the past

(48:37):
few decade has involved a lot ofimproving cameras, improving image signal processors,
improving silicon to be more efficient,more powerful, and all of that in
display tech, also getting better eyetracking, getting better infrared with the True
Depth Camera System LDAR. All ofthe things they've taken and learned from the
iPhone probably carries over and helps alot with the development of computers that we

(49:02):
wear on our face. All ofthat tech in the iPhone or in the
Mac doesn't translate and help that muchin the EV space. But I do
think that the EV space is alot more interesting and has a lot more
room to grow, and is honestlyjust a lot more interesting slash hopeful than
the spatial computing space, Which isokay, if this goes great and it

(49:23):
turns out to be the next bigthing, and maybe it doesn't necessarily replace
our phones, but if it replaceseverything else. The best case scenario for
Apple Vision pro and the Metiquest andeverything is a future where everybody wears goggles
on our faces and that's the norm. We get used to that, everybody
walking around like this and sharing thingsvirtually, and we get to the point

(49:46):
where we can't even go through ourday without wearing a pair of goggles on
our face. That's the best casescenario. If it all goes well and
it's intuitive and it's fun and it'seasy to share things. Okay, we've
got the software, we got thebest hardware, but it still just kind
of sounds dystopian and depressing and like, well, okay, this is the

(50:07):
future we live in now. Everybody'sgot to strap a screen to their eyes.
Whereas I think the potential of theEV industry is a lot more exciting
or a lot more hopeful of like, how do we find cleaner, more
sustainable forms of transportation independent transportation.Of course, public transport should be there
if possible, but in many placesit's not possible, or it's not feasible,

(50:30):
or it's not practical. So let'smake the transportation we do have that's
independent, for you know, cargoor moving families around. And you know,
sometimes you don't want to take yourwhole family on a bus or a
train because you like having some privacy, or you want to go to a
place at a certain time of theday where the bus or the train isn't
available. Whatever, you know,developing products that bring joy and more at

(51:00):
ability to the transportation sector, especiallyas living costs are growing, more and
more people are moving away from thebigger cities. Commutes are getting longer because
people have to move further away fromtheir work in order to find more affordable
housing. So how we alleviate that, You know, tech companies can't do
much about the rising costs of living. They can't do much about the you

(51:23):
know, rising cost of real estateor rising rent prices because of you know,
limited space with apartment buildings or whatever. That's the housing crisis is a
whole other can of worms that there'sreally not much tech companies can do about.
But what I would say big techcompanies could probably help the most with
is reducing the cost of vehicle ownershipor independent sustainable transportation. And Apple seems

(51:47):
to have a pretty passionate interest inthe environment. So if I had a
chance to talk with a Tim,I would still personally have disagreed that scrapping
the Apple car project was the rightmove. Whether or not Apples should develop
their own car or buy out anexisting startup, I would have said would
be the far more exciting, farmore hopeful, far more interesting direction for

(52:08):
the company to go. They obviouslyhave chosen not to go in that direction,
which I think is a missed opportunity. But I still don't think in
his heart of hearts, he's doingthis because I need more money. There
is a certain level of we gotto play it safe. You don't want
to be too risky. You know, I've got a lot of shareholders.

(52:29):
You don't want to burn through toomuch cash. And you're a big ship
now, so it's just naturally harderto navigate a company of that size.
So I can disagree with CEOs andstill think that, you know, what
they believe they're doing is the rightthing, and they can be wrong.

(52:52):
They could have bought Fisker, whoYou're right, Thank god they didn't.
It's cool for China to have asuper app, but we can't. Well,
there's two different governments. How's myrunning going without an Apple watch the
track GPS? When did I sayit was running? No, I haven't
been running for a while. Igo on walk sometimes. What was your
first iPhone? My first phone wasthe five back in twenty twelve. I

(53:17):
believe it was a while back.Honestly, who's really hyped on the iPad
event? Dubbed ub will be waymore interesting? Yeah, probably, it's
probably not going to be a verylong keynote, especially because they're having it
at seven in the morning. Iwouldn't be shocked if it's one of those
like forty minute events. Division Isee for ais being able to say,

(53:43):
Cyrus, add four pounds ninety tenground beef to my shopping list, oh
and also about a pound of Mexicanstyle strategies and have for doing it properly.
Yeah, I've noticed that too.People if you're using a digital assistant
and you say or oh and alsooh, just everything falls apart, and
it's like, that's not natural.That's not how humans talk, especially to

(54:07):
other people. You know, ifyou have coworkers, you're not communicating with
them like perfectly and never adding acarry on or making a pause, where
most digital assistance now, if youpause, they think, oh, he's
done talking. Let me process everythinghe just said. But no getting to
the point where we could actually processin real time to be like, oh

(54:28):
no, that thought is probably unfinished. But even then there's little nonverbal cues
where the facial expression I'm making mightimply that I'm not done talking, even
if verbally it may sound like I'mdone, you know, I may finish
a sentence, but that doesn't meanmy thought has been completed, So that
doesn't you know, keep listening dependingon facial expression given context. If you're

(54:52):
a human, you pick up onthese things pretty easily, but computer is
like no more words, Okay,stop listening. VR tech won't really take
off, in my opinion, untilthe tech can fit regular pair of glasses,
because ain't nobody walking around with goggleson their face all day. I
think there's a middle ground. Idon't think the hardware will ever get good

(55:13):
enough for super lightweight, comfortable glasses, but I do think it can get
far lighter and far more fashionable andcomfortable than what it is today. I
think ski goggles is probably going tobe the sweet spot. People wear ski
goggles sometimes, especially in colder climates, and it can be somewhat fashionable.
You know, it's kind of reflective. You still have a strap going to

(55:35):
the back, but it's not quiteas light weight as a you know,
a pair of glasses, which isjust going to be insanely difficult to get
a good battery life and good processingpower and something that light and small,
which might not ever happen. Possibly. I have the Apple TV fourth gen
is it worth upgrading to the latestversion in your opinion, I didn't know

(55:57):
there was a fifth gen. Itdepends how working for you. Is it
working fine, then do don't upgradeit? And then if it is having
problems, what kind of problems arethey would another one fix it? Was
Google Assistant much better than Cyrus whenyou tried the Pixel eight or did you
still not have much of a usecase for it? Yeah? I guess
I've never been a big fan ofdigital assistants in general, just because I

(56:20):
always feel like they expect way toomuch perfection when it comes to articulation.
They still don't know basic tasks.I actually still to this day use the
Google Assistant more than Cyrus because wehave the Google Speakers in our house.
My wife uses them, my familyuses them, I use them occasionally,
and the Google Assistant still makes prettydumb mistakes. I do think the Google

(56:44):
Assistant is probably the best of thedigital assistants out there. It's probably the
fastest and usually provides the most amountof context. But I don't think the
gap is as wide as most YouTubersmake it out to be. I mean,
most of them act like the Googlesystant is amazing and can do all
these things, and Cyrus is worthlessand can't do anything. And I'm like,

(57:05):
eh, they're all They're all prettyworthless, but the Google Assistant is
better. Yeah, I would alwayssay that, like, yeah, they're
too finicky, they're too unreliable forme to want to use it. Every
time I'm saying Cyrus instead of Idon't want to say Siri because it sets

(57:29):
off people's devices now, which isannoying. Will there be an Apple ring
like Samsung does. There's some patents, but I don't think they'll release it
personally, I think it would takeaway too many Apple Watch sales. Do
I think a big YouTuber can makeor break a small company? Uh?
Not really. I mean I agreewith kind of what Marquez said in his

(57:52):
video about reviewers. All a reviewerreally does is accelerate timelines. Because what
a reviewer, a good reviewer doesis buy a product and talk about it
so that others don't have to,especially if it's a bad product. If

(58:14):
a YouTuber goes out buys the productand adequately reviews it and finds all of
its shortcomings, odes, yeah,finds all of its drawbacks and says I
don't think this is worth it,and the audience just goes, yeah,
you know, I trust him.He's served me right in the past,

(58:36):
or he's adequately reviewed products previously,so I'm going to continue to trust him.
If a reviewer is a well knownyou know, not known for being
wrong or you know, it'd beone thing if a reviewer was saying crazy
things about a product and how horribleit was, and no other reviewer was
saying the same thing. But that'snot really the case. That's not usually

(58:57):
what people are arguing about. Mostpeople are arguing, well, Mark,
he has killed such and such company. It's like every issue, every complaint
Marquez had was also echoed by probablydozens of other reviewers and journalists. He
was by far not the only personclaiming these things. Now he is one
of the most popular tech YouTubers,probably one of the most well known tech

(59:21):
YouTubers, so he probably gets alot of the blunt of the impact,
which used to just be oh,the media was hard on this product,
and now it's just like, well, Marquez was hard on this product,
and it's like lots of people whobought and owned the Fiscrotan were complaining about
all kinds of software issues, serviceissues, keyfob issues, communication issues.

(59:42):
Marquez was honestly one of the lastpeople to report it, but because he
was so noteworthy, everyone's at,oh, it's his fault. It's like,
no, if the product is genuinelygood, then there will be positive
reviews out there too, and thenthe reviewer that is all negative and so
about it, he'll be the oddman out and he will potentially risk slash

(01:00:05):
lose his credibility by saying something thateither wasn't true or didn't have enough context
added to it. Of Okay,well, maybe your experience was bad or
you were not great at explaining theproduct's use case, but that doesn't mean
the product itself is bad because lotsof other reviewers tried it and enjoyed it.
But when all the reviewers are kindof reporting the same thing, that's

(01:00:28):
when it's like, no, thisis not the reviewer's fault. And also,
if the product was genuinely good,it could withhold a few negative critiques,
you know, because if it's genuinelygood, there's got to be at
least some content creators, journalists orYouTubers that are able to highlight how good

(01:00:50):
of a product it is. There'sgot to be some element of integrity you
would think. I don't think likeeverybody's just trying to kill these startups.
In fact, I think Marquez andother reviewers like him were probably far more
fair and reasonable to these products thanI would have been. I didn't even
buy them because I was like,I could just look at that on a

(01:01:10):
web page and say, of course, that's a waste of time. That's
a joke of a product. Ofcourse, that's not even worth considering reviewing.
It's not worth my time. It'sjust a waste of time. Marquez
was nice enough to give it ashot and try to figure out if there's
a reason to review these or isthere a market for this kind of product,

(01:01:30):
and he said far more nice thingsabout them than I ever would have
said. So I think he's morethan fair personally. But do you think
Apple should give the user the opportunityto give Cyrus to him if you're choosing
Yeah, sure, why not?I don't know if it's that simple.
But why are there so many fanroids? And Rose make fun of the se

(01:01:51):
four having sixty herts and not undertwenty herts, Well, it's natural,
It is totally natural because there areso many androids that have under twenty herts,
they don't mention that it's locked downone hundred twenty herts and you have
to choose between sixty and one twenty, And they're not usually a variable refresh
rate, which means that if Appledid put one hundred and twenty herts on
the se in the same way thatall of their cheap androids they're bragging about

(01:02:12):
did, it would probably have worsebattery life. And the vast majority of
the public doesn't really notice or careabout the difference between sixty and one to
twenty. We have proven this timeand time again, so out of the
box, it should probably default tosixty so that the battery life is better.
But then again, if it's notan LTBO variable refresh rate display,
if you clocked it up to onetwenty, the battery life would be worse,

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So a lot of people would probablyjust not activate that feature. If
you're a techie person that cares aboutthat kind of feature, you're probably not
intended for that market. The techcommunity can be a dumpster fire, but
I would disagree Alpha. I wouldsay it's always been a dumpster fire.
It's been a dumpster fire for awhile. It cuts both ways. If
Marquez covered up flaws and praised theAipin and Rabbit, people would buy it

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and be mad at him for lyingabout the flaws. I'd say that before
or worse. Honestly, if you'reselling a product to the masses, a
reviewer, I think is far moreresponsible for what their audience thinks of their
review. And yeah, if youwould have said positive things and kind of

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not focused on the drawbacks and justsaid this is a great product, you
should go out and try it,and then a bunch of people went out
and bought it and we're disappointed,that's a much bigger loss, in my
opinion, than a company failing becauseyou know, the product wasn't that great
and it was hard to justify.This is how the business world works.
I don't think it's any different thanit used to be. Maybe things move

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a little faster now because we canget the word out very quick, and
a reviewer can get a hold ofa product pretty early on, review it
in detail, and talk about allof its shortcomings and flaws and advantages,
and post their video and we canall watch that video much quicker than maybe
a company could back in the eightieswhen they released a new product, but
the same conclusions would have been met. The company who made the good product

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would stick around because they built streetcredibility and they had a positive experience in
the media reported on that, andthen the bad products that weren't very good
would carry a negative stench in themedia would eventually publish stories on it,
and that would affect the sales.Nothing's changed in that regard. We've just
gotten faster at it. But inthe same way, startups can also do

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things faster now too, because theyhave access to more tools and more information,
more Internet, and they can getfunding faster. So everything's just moving
faster than it used to. Butit's the same thing. Rabbit Bucks makes
a good paperweight. I'm just honestly, genuinely shocked that both the Humane aipin
and the rabbit are one. I'mshocked that both of them got an MKBHD

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review, They got like mainstream mediacoverage. Both of these things were reviewed
like a new iPhone had just comeout. I'm like these I just looking
at them, just watching people usethem in commercials or on the website.
It's so bad. It's so obviouslylike a gimmick and a quick like,

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how do we capitalize on this hype. I'm just shocked so many people gave
it a chance. I'm just asurprise. So many people were like,
well, well, we'll need totry it first to see if it's worth
it. I was like, really, do you though? I don't know.
It'd be kind of like trying tothink of a good example. Someone

(01:05:39):
was saying, hey, you know, I discovered I can drop bowling balls
on my head. I'd be like, I don't think that's a good idea,
and they'd be like, well,have you tried it? You know
later you should try dropping a bowlingball on your head and see what it's
like. And I'd be like,no, I've never tried it, but
I can just connect the dots andfigure out that that probably wouldn't be a

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fun activity. And then imagine ifthey went on Good Morning America and all
the news anchors were like, Okay, we're gonna do it. We're gonna
drop bowling balls on our heads becausethis company said it's a good idea,
so let's try it, and thenthey tried it and went, you know,
this wasn't a great idea. Ifyou guys see Napoleon dynamite. It's

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a scene after he tries the timemachine, he puts in the crystals and
it like shocks him and tastes him, and he goes, it's a piece
of crap. It doesn't work.And then Uncle Rico walks in the room
and he goes, well, Icould have told you that. And that's
how I'm kind of feeling whenever Iwatch these reviews about the AI products.
Hey, this isn't very good.Well, I could have told you that.

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Could have told you that the secondI saw that thing. Of course,
it's a horrible idea. I thinkthe SE four will have four gigs
of RAM or six, probably four. If it's a mass market, every
day consumer phone, they probably won'tgo too crazy with it. Yeah,
the tide pod challenge, I don'tknow. Have you tried a tide pod?

(01:07:09):
Don't dock until you try it.It's like, no, I'm gonna
dock it without trying it. I'msorry. Yeah, that's true. Never
underestimate the power of stupidity. LikeSandy Bunroe once said, we have ways
to measure intelligence with like degrees orresume building, with real life job experience
or IQ tests. You know,we have ways to measure how smart people

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are. But stupidity knows no bounds. It's a bottomless pit. There's no
stupidity test. We have no wayto measure how dumb people can be.
The real question is can you throwa football a quarter mile? Well,
back in eighty two I could,and one I beed pro is a way
better deal until I Betos is upgraded. Well, we're gonna find out.

(01:07:54):
I think I got a feeling thattonight's gonna be a good nut. No,
sorry, honestly, I have afeeling that dub dub is going to
involve a lot of software locking.I think there's probably gonna be a lot
of iPads features that apparently need newersilicon, and suddenly the M one chip

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won't be able to run the coolnew feature. Don't believe me. This
exact same thing happened with the Atwelve Z chip, which was right before
the M one chip, where theysaid, hey, by the way,
the M one can do stage managerand external monitor support, and with the
A twelve Z they were like,no, it's just too slow. They
can't do it. You can domore on an iPhone fours than a humane
in a rabbit pit. Yeah,it's kind of exactly what Dave two D

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said in his review. He waslike, if I was designing it,
I'd make the screen bigger, I'dadd a volume rocker, and I'd move
the dial get rid of that.I'd put the camera on the front and
maybe a camera on the back,and maybe improve the speakers on the top.
Oh, that's a phone. Waita second. Remember the Ginger or

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it by Dean Kaman that got lotsof hype in then died. I don't
remember the Ginger, but yeah,there's certainly a hype that it tends to
feel like if it grows fast,it dies fast. Can we talk about
the EU and the iPad. That'skind of the same thing. Hopefully the
EU might make the iPad a muchbetter product, if I'm being honest.

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They allow sideloading, Apple, justallow mac os on the iPad. That's
your workaround. That way, youcan say, okay, see the mac
sideloading. You just got to bootit in the macOS mode. Boom.
Hopefully they will give it all.Because it's an M chip. That's a
lot of wishful thinking. There's notreally a big difference between the M one

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and what would have been The Afourteen X. Really, the A twelve
X and the A twelve Z arejust early that's the M zero chip.
It's the same concept. They're bothlike ten to fifteen watch chips with a
certain amount of performance cores and efficiencycores and a slightly larger dye than the
iPhone chip. No thoughts on beatSola for sorry more beat whatever? Uh,

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how do we make a phone withoutmaking a phone? Honestly, that's
kind of exactly the first time Isaw the Rabbit R one, I was
like, this isn't good, butit's way better than the Humane pin for
one, but also for two,it's just a really goofy phone. They're
just they're trying to tell you it'snot a phone, so that you're okay
with a really bad UI and designlacking a bunch of basic features. I

(01:10:34):
mean, it's the weirdest phone I'veever seen in a while. But at
the end of the day, it'sa device with a camera with some buttons
and a screen that you talk to, that you can type on, that
you charge and put in your pocket. It's not a good phone, but
it's just a really bad phone.Why doesn't happen to give the iOS features

(01:10:55):
the ipen with I think we've talkedabout it, and I've heard from people
who I know a few people whowork at Apple actually, and it sounds
like I'm right in the suspicion thatthere's not really an iPad OS team.
There's an iOS team that at thelast second, occasionally a certain portion of
the iOS team has to update theiPad to catch up, which is why

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it often feels like iOS does abunch of stuff and then IPEd os has
to catch up. A year later. They ship DevKits with a twelve Z.
No one allowed to say it isa bad sc yeah, just that
it can't it can't do a certainthings. To be fair, the DevKit
did have way more ram than theiPad pros did, but still I agree.

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I just noticed the refermer site isfar less iPads than it used to.
Wonder if that means they're joining thesite next week. I don't think.
I mean, I hate using theterm confirmed, but it's it's probably
gonna be an iPad event. Imean, it's been over five hundred days.
There's an Apple pencil in the invite. I would be very shocked if

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there's no new iPads at this event. Comparing the aipin to dropping a bowling
ball on your head isn't a faircompared soon I disagree, Mike. I
think it's a very similar. Honestly, It's like, I mean, are
you going to buy one? Thatwould help your argument a lot if you

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planned on purchasing one. The veryfact that you haven't pre ordered one,
to me speaks volumes to how evenyou could admit you haven't tried it and
it's not worth it. You didn'thave to try it to reach that conclusion.
At least a bowling ball has apurpose, that's true. Bulling ball
is probably a lot more fun.You just don't drop it on your head.

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Same reason I wouldn't put a projectorwith a battery that dies in two
hours on my on my clothes.What got me laughing about the rabbit is
day in Dave two D. Davetwo d's review is that it has a
functional touch screen. You can typeon screen keyboard, but you have to
scroll the wheel to scroll the settingscreen. I know, I mean,

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personally, I get why they're doingthat, but it's still dumb. I
agree. The logic behind it isthey're trying to make it a voice focused
device, but the very fact thatthey have to software lock it like that,
because it's like, yeah, sometimesyou're in situations where you don't want
to have to say everything you're doingout loud. Sometimes it's really handy to
just have that little screen on yourphone that lets you navigate a really complex

(01:13:29):
UI and do what you need todo. Aren't you glad that you can
just put your water picture in yourfridge mic and it fills it up with
water and you don't have to tellit fill the picture up with water.
Jo always says this to Mike,whether it's aipin or Dodge day time.

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Well, I mean it is true. I would say it means a lot
more if someone who owns the productbelieves in it. It is recommending it
and saying, yeah, I paidwith my own money for this thing,
and this is useful and I planon using this regularly. That's one thing.
But to just say hypothetically this isworth it, but I'm not,

(01:14:12):
I'm not gonna do it. It'slike, eh, I don't know,
we got me laughing. Oh sorry, I read that. When the iPad
eleven or iPad manty seven Gooding droppedpossibly next week, it could be just
one big iPad event. Which iterationof thunderbolt will the new iPad pro have?
Uh? Probably the same version ifI'm being honest, But I gotta

(01:14:33):
get going here. I appreciate youguys for tuning in. Thank you for
your support. The water pitcher isa nice feature, and I love that
you don't have to say anything forit to work. It just works.
I'll see you guys later. Havean excellent rest of your day. BOBBYE.