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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hello, and welcome to the special edition of Christmas movie Spotlight.
I'm your host, Don Matt and I'm here with my
friend and my colleague and my co host and let's
see what else my partner in crime, although we don't
do crime. Uh my, I said friend, Okay, my best
eat my midwestern slash northern kind of friend. And yeah,
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so hey, Pam, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah that that girl that you do things with.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Here you go. That kind of sums it all up.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Right, right, everything pretty much. I mean that we could
do virtually say, because of course we're not next to
each other. We're not in the same neighborhood, we're not
even in the same states.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So that's true.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
We're not.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And that's okay because you know, it's funny when people
ask us about how did you meet and we always give,
you know, the background to how we met, and people,
I think are amazed that in what fifteen years now,
fourteen years, Yeah, we've never met in person. It's crazy.
But it's like we've done each other our whole lives.
So yeah, this is what happens, folks when you talk
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for three hours a day on the phone to talk
about the show or anything under the sun we come.
We never run out of stuff to talk about, so
I can't imagine that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, I think our personal past was five hours recently.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Uh huh uh huh. Well, like this.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Go ahead, you would never guess that. You would never
guess that you were on the phone that long when
you enjoyed it, not doing so.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
No, and honestly, full transparency here, folks, We were on
the phone that long because that's when we decided we
were bringing the show back, and we spoke about that
in our first episode. So if you haven't listened to
that episode, go back and check it out. It's a
lot of fun. But yeah, we were pinging ideas because
it had been two years since we've been on air
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doing the show, and so we were springboarding ideas and
one thing led to another, and we just didn't realize
we were on the phone. And finally one of us looked,
I think it was you, Pam, and you we realized, oh,
guess how long we've been on the phone. Didn't know,
had no clue, It didn't feel like it. So so anyway,
it's always fun to talk. Maybe one day we will
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meet in person, but as it is here, we are
so right yep, for sure. Well, we are here today
because we have a very special interview that we did
with the densely talented and gorgeous Kimberly J. Brown. And
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what an interview that.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Was so much fun. I think you guys will get
a kick out of it. She's extremely well I guess,
what could you say, down to earth friendly, She loves
what she does and you'll hear all this when you
listen to the interview.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So yeah, she's probably one of the most she's probably
one of the most positive people who just emanates that
energy that I think overall in my personal life that
I've ever talked to. She was just great. So it
was a lot of fun for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Absolutely, And Kimberly stars in the Hallmarks holiday movie How
Out the Halloween, which will debut on October eleven. So
check your TV guys for whatever time it's going to
show up, because you don't want to miss it.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It's going to be a good one. And considering I'll
say this, considering this is the first Halloween type thinged
movie that Hallmark has done in recent years, people are
so stoked about this, not to mention Kimberly's in it,
So so we think you're going to love the interview,
and we are so excited and honored to bring you
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our interview now with Kimberly J. Brown.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Enjoy the show.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Hi, I'm Kimberly J. Brown and you're listening to Pam
and Don.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Hello Kimberly, and thank you so much for joining us today.
We are so thrilled to have you. You have no idea.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited
to be here.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Oh, you're very, very welcome. We always start with the
basic question, and we know a little bit about you
were younger when you started doing the acting things, so
it's gonna be just like a progression of that, like
where did it take you? Most of us dream about
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being an actress or a singer or a princess as
a little girl. When did you realize you wanted to
be an actress? How did you get into that and
how did it follow up?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
That's such a great question.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I started acting when I was about five or six
years old, and it started actually very much alongside my
love of Halloween, which is why my life and career
is such a full circle thing that I'm you know,
now have such a large audience in the in the spooky,
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spooky genre. But I grew up loving Halloween because I
loved the idea of becoming different characters. I made different costumes,
and I was a princess one year in a witch
and man I commit So I loved like I was
always I had imaginary friends, and I was performing in
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the mirror and stuff around the house. And my parents
put me in like a performing arts class as kind
of an avenue to express it, and some talent scouts
came from New York, New York City. We were living
in Maryland at the time, where I was born, and
they kind of said if I was ever interested in
doing it professionally, like I was one of the ones
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in the class that they would could see doing it professionally.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So we ended up driving to New York and sort
of testing it out.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
And when you ask, like when I knew that I
wanted to be an actress, I remember very vividly during
my first Broadway show when I was seven years old
at Lincoln Center. It was a John Guare play called
Four Baboons during the Sun, and I remember vividly being
out on that stage at seven and just going wow,
like this is I never want to stop doing this.
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So I always check in with that, with that little girl.
And as I've grown up and worked throughout my life
and you know, become an adult and everything and have
tried to manage all of the other things beyond the
entertainment industry, I always check in with that little girl
to make sure that I'm still enjoying it as much
as I did when I was young, and.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I can truthfully say that I do.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So I'm very grateful to still be still be you know,
kicking it in the business all these years later.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well one, thanks for Sartain. I am personally glad that
you have continued in the business. I remember seeing you
for the first time when you were on Gotty Light.
I'm a huge fan of that soap and.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
So was I.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, and you were so young, but I just remember
being so impressed with your acting and just how great
you were on screen. And all I could think at
that time was she is going places like And then
seeing you years later in Halloween Town and said, oh
my gosh. You know, you know, I me to say
it was full circle. But you know, many child actors
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tend to step away from acting for one reason or
the other. But you've continued and creative work. What is
what's kept you passionate about storytelling?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I I have kind of throughout my life. I feel
like I have taken certain certain breaks. I think maybe
here and there, like I went to college, I started college,
and then I kind of stopped for a bit because
I was working. And then years later I kind of decided,
you know what, no, I want to go back and
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finish my degree. So I took a few years off
from working professionally and got a business management degree and
have always tried to I guess balance, you know, all
of the things. But I something popped into my head
too when you uh, when you mentioned Halloween Town and
Guiding Light. I Guiding Light was is still one of
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my just longtime favorite jobs. Ever, I still keep in
touch with so many friends from that show. And but
I one of the reasons why I left Guiding Light
initially was because I had booked Halloween Town and another
film called Tumbleweeds back to back that summer and just
could not do everything. So that was actually the reason
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why I left Guiding Light. And I don't remember your
original question, but there's a detailed answer about other things.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Well, the question and that's fine. It's fine because we
could talk about Guide Light all day. I loved it,
and I have to say, on that note, I was
so bunned when you left. I felt like it was
probably because you had taken it, you know, you were
holed to do another job, a movie or what have you,
And it turned out that was the case. But you
were so good in that role and playing opposite you know,
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Kim Zimmer and it was a Robert Numan, it was like,
oh my gosh, who was going to fill her shoes
in that role?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
So that's so sweet of you, so much, very kind.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
So much of the compliments go to them as well,
because you know, Kim could act against a paper bag
Robert too and make that paper bag look like a
shining unicorn.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
So I what a great just yeah, what a great
cast to be able.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
To to really grow up with.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
And they taught me so much, you know, as so
much in so many areas well.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And my original question was many child actors have stepped
away from acting, but you continued obviously onward. And what
has kept you passionate about storytelling throughout your career?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yes, thank you, I you know, I I really it
always comes back.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
To the fans. Really, I am.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I so much enjoy the performing and getting to become
different characters, but I really had the blessing of getting
able to experience how that can touch people. And I
also got to see through working and getting to know
Debbie Reynolds very well, she really kind of taught me
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what a gift it is to be in that position
to be able to perform for people and make them happy.
And she always she never lost sight of that, always
appreciated it, and it really left an indelible mark on me.
And so I in some of those moments along the
way in my career, because everybody has ups and downs it,
I've always come back to kind of why I do
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it and why I really and and the relationship with
the fans. And it's so it's just it's equally as
rewarding that relationship and being able to perform and then
have people respond to, you know, your performance. So I
think if I could boil it down, it's it's to that.
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But that's not to say that, you know, all of
us creatives have our you know, have our roller coaster
rides with you know, with with this industry.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Right and if the audiences didn't respond to your acting,
then what what would the sense be to do it right?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yes, yeah, that's a really good point. Yeah, exactly. It
definitely make it harder, wouldn't it.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah. Well.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
One of the things that I found interesting that I
did not know you did, but again I should say
I'm not surprised, is that you did voice over for
the female ants on A Bug's Life as well as
other animated series.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So what inspires you to explore different outlets? And how
do you choose a voice? Do you use your own
most of the time or where does that come from?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
It kind of it depends on the character description. It's
a collaborative thing usually. Like the most recent animated project
I just did was The Ghost and Molly McGee, which
is an animated show on Disney Plus. And I they
sent me the description of I was playing a teenage ghost,
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and they sent me a character description. But when it
came time to actually voice the role, I gave them
a few options as far as like different tones in
my voice or something, and we kind of with the
producers and the director, like we kind of came to
a mutual agreement on where they liked it, and so
a lot of times it is collaborative with everybody else
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in the project, but it's it's another like exciting way
of performing because it's not all on camera, which a
lot of times is nice, but it's it's well, you
guys know too, how how much performing behind the mic
might be. You know, my people might look at it
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and be like, oh, well that must be easier because
it's not on camera, but you're still you know, performing
and using your muscle. So it's the fun about animation though,
is a lot of the those types of characters just
I mean, you get to perform all kinds of sounds
and storylines and things that you would never do as
a human you know, in real life. So that kind
of part of the fantasy of it in that animated
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world is really fun.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
And I think that takes special talent. Actually, when you're
doing a voiceover like that, I think that's almost harder
to act out than it would be to be in
front of the camera playing a human.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Sometimes certain situations, Yeah, you definitely have to give it
a little extra unfiping because yeah, you would you would
perform it differently in real life too, So it's yeah,
it's it's a different, different kind of effort.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I think, Yeah, well, you've built such a supportive community online.
Your fans absolutely love you. And what's something your fans
might be surprised to learn about you?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Oh boy, let's see.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Well, people always seem surprised that that I love Halloween.
I also really love Christmas, truthfully, and so that's always
something that I guess it tickles people that it's I know,
I'm primarily known for the spooky holiday, but O, man,
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when Christmas comes, I really the decorations are up very early,
all of the things, the candles are lit.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It smells like pine.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I just I love pardon the pun here, but the
magic of the holidays. And I think as we go
through our adult lives, it's so important to grab onto
our inner child as much as possible, and I think
the holidays really do that for me.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So maybe that would be something.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, people would maybe assume that, you know that that's
all about Halloween in my house, but it is. But
I should say and Christmas as well.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well. I am a Christmas from the time sept one
rolls around all the way to January one, just the
whole holiday season encompassed. When the leaves start changing, and
it's feeling like fall outside, and you've got Halloween as
the first holiday. And it's just kind of a bill
a slow build, although it goes by incredibly fast. But
it's it's awesome. It's awesome. Yes, Pam is not so
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much that way, So we're kind of ying and yang
when it comes to the holidays. She's she's gotten better,
but it is it is. I love it. I love it,
so I can appreciate your love of it as well.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You know, she's making me sound worse than I am.
I just like I don't celebrate Christmas all year long.
I just celebrated when it comes, you know, into December.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I understand that, yes, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Otherwise, when she'll say something to me, I'll tell her
by homebug, and she just last me so uh because
you know, by this time it's April or something, she's
talking about Christmas.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yes, we're just we're already looking ahead, you know, we're
we're in the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I want to enjoy the year,
so there.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You like to take it as it comes, I understand.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah. Well, when you get to be my age, you
kind of want that time to slow down.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
So I believe me as I've gotten older, I definitely
understand that. Yeah, time seems to to to speed up
as you as you get older and get busy or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, right, right, Well, speaking of time, if you could
go back in time from right before you started your
first acting job, what would you say to yourself.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Oh, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I think I would would try to tell myself not
to be so hard on myself. I think when I
was younger, I you know, I held myself to some
kind of standard that that I needed to give myself
more room to make some mistakes and try things. I
think you think you when you're young, if you try
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something the first time and it doesn't go quite the
way you wanted to, it's like, oh, I don't know
if that's right, and it's like no, that's where the
fun is in trying things and learning and growing. So yeah,
I think I would be just, yeah, tell myself to
be a little you know, to just see what happens
kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well, we have to talk about your brand new movie
that's going to be coming out soon on Hallmark, haul
Out the Halloween. I love Halloween, so I am when
I heard that you had been cast, you and your
husband had been cast this movie. I was like, it's
gonna be a Halloween down reunion. This is gonna be awesome,
And I mean, I love how it's kind of letting
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you blend that Halloween legacy with the fresh Hallwork story. So,
without giving too much away, was there a moment on
set when that magic really connected for you?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Oh? Yes, let's see.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
We were super excited to do this movie because we
had also been genuine fans of the Haul Out the
Holly series. I've been friends with Lacy Shbert for a
long time. We've known each other since we were kids,
and she's my bestie and I so I love watching
the things that she does. And speaking of decorating for Christmas,
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like for the first two Haul Out the Holly movies,
that was we decorated our Christmas tree to them. So
we are genuine fans of the cast and the story,
and we're truly giddy that we were getting the opportunity
to literally move into the neighborhood. But yeah, we are
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the new neighbors Luna and Marvin, and we're moving into
Evergreen Lane and we bring a certain spooky love about
us and you know, hopefully kind of inspired I inspire
them to expand their their love of holiday celebrations. Back
to Halloween again, and it's everybody in the neighborhood is back,
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and they're just so funny, and the cast was so
welcoming and so kind and we just we had the
best time. But to now, let me go back to
your original question. I do remember that one of the
first days on set, one of the first scenes we
shot with Lacey and Daniel and Wes Brown, and I
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just I really had to pinch me, like surreal full
circle moment in the sense that I was standing across
from my best friend, acting as if I was meeting
her for the first time, and standing next to my husband,
and it just was such a I thought, my goodness,
what a blessing of a job to be surrounded by
people that I love so dearly and get to just
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have so much fun working with them and the entire
cast we just got to play every day.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And I hope it.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I do think it will come across in the movie.
I hope everybody likes it, but I think they're gonna
I think they're gonna laugh a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I can't wait to see it. I mean, it's gonna
be great. If it's anything like the first two installments
of haul Out. This is just like the cherry on
top because Halloween is so it kind of for a
lot of people. It kind of is the kickoff to
the holiday season. And when I saw the promo for
the movie, the one thing that came to my mind
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was how proud Debbie Reynolds would be to see this
full circle moment for you and your husband and this
way and to somewhat carry on that Halloween Town legacy.
And I thought, what a sweet way to do this,
you know.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
So, yeah, I love that. Yeah, I would like to
think the same. She was so.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
She loved how much the fans had grabbed onto the movie.
She loved saying Aggie, she was so much like Aggie
in real life.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And I just I think she would get a kick
out of it and just really love, just really yeah,
really love.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
How much the fans generations of fans now enjoy all
of Halloween Town movies.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
And if.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
We put a few little like callbacks, little Easter eggs,
they're very subtle, but I tried to pay homage to
her in small.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Ways, and there's a few little Easter eggs.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
To some of the Halloween Town references in Haul Out
the Halloween. So yeah, it's definitely like for full circle
in that way too.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
That's so sweet. I love that. And I'm going to
confess something to you. Well, first of all, I want
to say haul Out to Hollie.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
I'm a major fan of that as well, and so
I'm glad to see this coming. But I never watched
Halloween Town.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Why.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I don't know what I was doing my life when
that came out. I think the eighties or something.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
It was a late nineties, was the first two thousands.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, I was raised in my family, so I'm sorry.
I was a little busy, but I did.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Okay, Hey, you had your priory straight.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
It sounds like.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I actually just recently watched the movie, and I'm telling
you I loved it. I loved it, and I was
just telling my kind of I want to today and
his kids couldn't need to watch the movie when they
get a little bit older, because they're a little too
young right now. But I really enjoyed it. And the
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one thing I want to point out is that you
have barely changed that I knew it was. You came
on the screen.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
That's so kind of you to say, because I definitely
feel older, so I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So my course is, if you could choose a magical
power for yourself in real life, what would it be and.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Why I would love to either if it's like teleportation
or broom flying. I would just love another quick method
of transportation to get me places. So there's spend most
of my time in Los Angeles. There's way too much
traffic there, so you know, I just I think that
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would really I would just make my life a little smoother.
But yeah, I definitely appreciated that about the Cromwell's abilities,
Like how cool that they could just boom snap themselves
wherever they needed to go. Right, that's great yep, the efficiency.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, yeah, it really would be a time saver if
only right. Maybe that will be Maybe that will evolve
in the future. You know I'll be able to take
advantage of that. That'll be. That'd be great.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well, before we wrap up our interview, we always like
to end on a very fun note. Although the whole
interview has been incredibly fun. But we want to do
a lightning round and its Halloween inspired because we knew
how much you love Halloween. Normally we get Christmas inspired,
but we had to do Halloween of course. Yes, so
it's no wrong answers. It's just a you know, kind
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of a this or that. So okay, the first question
is do you prefer.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Pumpkin spice or caramel apple pumpkin spice all the way?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Okay? Next this candy corn? Love it or leave it?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Love it?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I love me too.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
We don't like it, but yes, my my husband disagrees
with us, and so does Lacy. So I was like
to joke that I'm the I'm the outlier of the
three of us. I'm like, give me all the candy
corn because they don't like it.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So yes, oh my goodness, Well it's more for us,
right exactly. I see it, and I especially love it
when it's on sale the day after Halloween and you
just go buy all the bags. You know that? Yes, yes, okay,
Trick or treat, Trick or treat?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Oh, I treats. I need treats.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, I know. It's like it's just on Halloween without
the chocolate as a companion to all the other festivity. Okay,
haunted house.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Or corn maze ooh, corn mas. I think As I
get a little older, I'm a little less into being scared,
if I'm being honest, my nervous system I need. Yeah,
I like being out in nature, so it's it's funny,
you know, yeah, not scary corn maze.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I'm down.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Hem and I were just talking about horror movies recently,
and we were talking about the same thing. As we've
gotten older, we're less inclined to watch them, you know,
and and do the on a house thing. I you know,
I do think it comes with age. But when you're young,
you just are invincible and you're doing all the things
and oh yeah, it's really funny. Yeah that's right. And last,
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but not least, a horror movies marathon or cozy fall movie.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Night, Cozy fall movie night for the wind, Yes, with
probably some you know, if it's in the evening, a
decaf pumpkin spice latte, because you know, I can't I
got to watch my caffeine intake. But I've got the
pumpkin spice candles lit like I a fire going. That
sounds amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, that's what it's falls all about.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So yeah, definitely I'm with you on the pumpkin spice.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
But mine's got to have caffeine, But then again, I
don't drink it at ten o'clock at night either, so.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Right, yes, exactly, maybe ten in the morning I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
But yeah, yeah, right after a certain point in the afternoon,
I got to be good and switch to d calf.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah right right. Well, as Darn said, this was a
fun interview. We absolutely love speaking with you, and we
could do this for the next probably two or three hours,
but we would like to invite you back anytime that
you have a new project out, So we welcome you
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and thank you.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
This has been so much fun, ladies. I so appreciate
you having me.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
And like I said following along, it's it's always touches
me to get to chat with fans that have, you know,
like amazing gutting light fans such as yourself, Like you
guys have have seen some of my work since the
early days, and I really appreciate it. It's it's because
it's been doing it for a minute, so it's it's
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always fun to get to reminisce.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
So thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh, you're very welcome you and great rest of your
evening and the holidays I hope are spectacular for you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Same to you guys, and I hope you all have
a happy Halloween and I hope you'll enjoy the mo.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Thank you, thank you, and thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
You're welcome. I'll have a great rest of your evening.
Okay all, thank.
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