Episode 198 T2R Soaps in Review #BoldandBeautiful #YR #GH #Days

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at Take two Radio and thanks forlistening. Well, good evening and welcome
to the two radio soaps. Iam sitting in the host seat this evening.

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David and Pam are otherwise engaged.Pam, we hope you feel better,
and David hopefully all the improvements thatthey are doing on your apartment will
make you giddy with glee. ButI am here with Candy Girl, Bye,
Candon, Hi everybody, and wehave Vinny with us. Welcome back,

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Vinnie, Oh, thank you,it's good to be back. It's
good to hear you man. Unfortunately, we are starting off on a bit
of a somber note. This eveningor afternoon or morning, depending on when
you're listening to the podcast version ofthis, but if you're with us tonight,
the soap world was rocked by somenews and unfortunately Johnny Whacter, who

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played Brenda Corbyn on General Hospital,was murdered and it's it's sending shockwaves through
through the soak community. Some beautiful, touching tribute from castmates, I saw
you know, Nancy Lee, GrandLaura, thank you Laura, right,

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Sophia. Sophia had a beautiful,beautiful message. And and first and foremost,
we want to send our our loveand condolences to his family and friends
who are reeling because of the senselessnessof it all. From teaching radio soaps,

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your in our prayers, your inour thoughts, and just you guys
who listen to us on on aregular basis know how we are here.
So my public service announcement is toplease separate the the tragedy from the drama
that we that we love to indulgein. You know, there's there's one

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thing to stuff like this playing outon screen. There's another thing when it
involves families and parents and siblings.You know, people that love this man
and and please be respectful out there. Most of what I've seen so far
has been, but there's there's alwaysa few that that want to be all

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delicious and and you know, bringout the conspiracy theories and things like that.
Honestly, you know, the policewill do their job, and we
have high respect for the justice systemin this country, hopefully, you know.
But in the meantime, you know, remember that behind every tweet or

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or post that you put out there, there may be a family member or
or someone you know, even tangentallyand his life who are reading that.
So let's let's keep it. Let'skeep it love and respectful, rather than
playing in the conspiracy theories and thewhat about this? And I heard that.
I know this, Candice. Youknow you're you're in the soil world

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on an almost daily basis, inyour various capacities. So I've seen that.
You know, you've you've had somereally I don't know what to say.
Beautiful is nothing right? You've beenquite honest and good about about what's
been put out there. Where areyou right now? This actually hit me

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a little personal because for those whoI'm an open book, so my mom
was taken away sort of like that. And the thing is, Johnny was
actually a year older than my momwhen my mom was taken away. And
so when I saw it, nowhere's the thing. I saw a post

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two hours before the news and ithad Johnny's picture and it was black and
white and the heart and I didn'tknow what was going on. And then
we heard what happened, and firstand foremost of my heart goes out to
his mother and his two brothers,because our parent should never bury their child.

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And that's I've always been really,you know, on point with that.
The thing. The thing is that, look, I said, just
whatever your beliefs are, quote unquota, at the end of the day,

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an innocent man's life was taken awayover something and I'll say it stupid.
And we got more detailed. Wefound out this man was protecting a female.
And let me just say right now, that's a gentleman. That's a
hero, and that's a gentleman becausehe was walking and a female to pop

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card during the nighttime when all thishappened. He didn't put up a fight,
he didn't do anything. He literallywas protecting somebody and some heartless cool
person decided, oh you know what, let me take his life away because
I wanted to convert him. Sowhere I'm at right now is that we

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lost somebody for a promise and hope. And the thing is is that he
was thirty seven. That's still young. Like he didn't even crack. Like,
yeah, he did General hospitals,he did Army RUSS but you know
he had a future. Yeah,And sadly he's not gonna you know,

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I don't know his says, buthe's not gonna have any kids. He's
not gonna be able to do this. Like he literally woke up Saturday morning,
just like the rest of us,I've been using this. He woke
up Saturday morning the same thing.On Saturday, Man, I gotta go
to the market. I probably gottago do this. And then he thought
Monday. He thought on Monday,he started Tuesday. And it's just it's

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just heartless and I hope they findwhoever did it. And I'm sorry,
I just I really, I amgoing to be really quiet because there are
certain things that I want to saythat I don't want to offend, but
I do want to say I hopehas had justice for Johnny and say this.

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It doesn't matter because I'm going toadjust this real quick. It doesn't
matter if it was California, NewYork, Boston, Maryland, Virginia and
whatnot. This is a problem thatwe need to solve. We've already gone
control and that's all I'm gonna say. So my thoughts and prayers goes out
to the family, both his biologicalfamily, his General hospital family because my

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gods, General Hospital again again,and to everybody in daytime, because I
also saw posts from Ed Marshall.I saw people from both and beautiful and
young and rosters and days also inthe day also ye as well. So

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this wasn't just a this is daytime. This is why again I say this
all the time daytime. The Stokecommunity were gn bigger are all day long.
But when one of us is takingaway, we come together and rust
the store has tag justice for Johnny. Absolutely, you know, thinking of

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what you just said, I sawa beautiful, a beautiful post from Scott
Clifton. Honestly, my NaSTA here, it's been a very long and interesting
week. I have not been onsocial media as much as I usually am,
but absolutely, oh my god,when when something happens in the soap

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world, we do see you knowthis rivalry is this fun, you know,
kind of poking at each other andthings, and hey, I did
that storyline five years ago. Andbut when it really comes down to it,
the soap community kid comes together andreally is there for each other.
Vinny, you know we haven't.You know, you've been pretty busy in

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your life as well, which iswe're very proud and happy that you could
join us tonight. What are yourthoughts? Honestly, I was at my
family cookout when I saw the postand and I had to do a double
take. I think I read thepost because I the first I heard of
it was seeing John Winstrom's posts onon Instagram, and it like shocked me.

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And then you know, just kindof reading the different posts and getting
news about what happened, and Iwas thrown for a loop. And I
think I'm still to the point whereI'm speechless. And you know, it's
like you never want to you neveryou never really think about knowing the actors

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in real life unless you have apersonal relationship with them. But when you're
watching you know, daytime TV,whether it's soaps or any kind of thing,
anything that you're really invested in andthat you you know, been around
and been in for a long time, you really feel like you know them.

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So when you know, it kindof brings me back to the feeling
I had years and years ago whenO when a heart passed away and when
you know and heared about it.You know, granted, different circumstances,
different situations completely, but when you'rewatching somebody on TV, when you're you

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know, you're really getting to knowthat character. But also you know,
it's like you read the touching tributesfrom co stars and given people that had
never been in stuff with them,it really really hurts. It's like you
feel the loss, you feel thegrief, and Candice, I agree with
you. This is you know,it's a bad situation. It could have

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happened anywhere. It didn't have tobe LA. It could have been anywhere.
And you know, I, youknow, I just hope that the
you know, the police department inLA, you know, they find the
people that did it. And againover a stupid catalytic converter, Like you
know, it's just absolutely ridiculous.You know he did you know, he

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was heroic, he he stood infront of his coworker, you know,
and just senseless. That's that's allit's just senseless. And I'm glad that
that Candice brought up gun control andand you know, we all need to
really think about this. There aremore guns loose in this country than there

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actually are people. We have almostalmost five million more guns in this country
than we have people. But Ido want to do the second round of
public service announcement and say, youknow, there's a there's a young lady
who will never be the same,and let's be kind to her as well.

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You know, she is going tolive with us and for the rest
of her life, and you know, let's let's be kind to her as
well. Yeah, I mean,like, are we that heartless in the
world that we have to do Likeyou could you could have went the pet
boys and got a converted Okay,you could have went on eBay or we'll

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say or or just or mood whatever. To get it. You literally had
to do. And I'm not justsaying this because well it happens all the
time. It happens all the time, but in this this particular faction,
seriously, right, but you knowwhat, Kanas, Honestly, I'm gonna

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take it down to I'm gonna takeit down to the basis of base levels.
You could have raised our gun.You could have fired a warning shot
up into the air. I said, okay, I'm busting. Let me
get you know, you ain't gonnafollow me. I got a gun and
get your butt up out of there. Wasn't worth it, get you know.
He literally, okay, this istime I'm gonna I'm just this is

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just cannas going to reenact. Okay. So so from what the report was
allegedly, Johnny and and I wasgonna say girlfriend, but I don't know
that right his his friends coworker.It was nighttime. He walked to the
car he saw. Allegedly, thisis what the brother of the report said,

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he thought that the car was beingtold. Yeah. I just think
that because you know, to zonesaren't a thing, and you know,
say he didn't go over there confusational, that's the thing he dang do.
He just was like, hey,what's going on? And the gods just
had him done? Like to me, like so this the more I'm thinking

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about it, the more I'm justlike really irritated because it should not have
happened. It really shouldn't have happened. And I like, like you said,
I feel for the young lady,because she is gonna have postomac strust
from them. I did see somebodydid set a go fund me. I

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think it was Godmother. I wantto make sure that was legit, because
that's another we'll talk about that ina minute. But it's just again,
my heart goes out to everybody whoknew this young man. And and you
know she was supposed to be atthe club weekend this summer, and you

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know I did gone to Sants,gone to sin. Just it's just quickly
without new confidence, well before webefore we actually dive into our shows themselves.
We also got some good news thisweek about the Games. It is

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reached its third out of a fewmilestones that it needs. It is definitely
getting the the time slot in earlytwenty six and so now we're gonna we're
gonna start all buying their posts alreadyup. I mean, I've seen multiple

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ones about Tabiana Eli. I personally, from what representatives told me on Thursday,
she is very happy in her inher role at General Hospital. Uh
And anything that you see online rightnow is a rumor. However, I
mean, if they want her tobe a showrunner, I mean it would
be hard hard to turn down.But as of right now, those are

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rumors. Uh. Tabiana is notin conversation with the Gates, but we
have we have a go. Itis going to be on our screens and
so you know four will go tofive. And and the fact that it
is you know, it is basedaround you know, a minority based soap

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opera. We haven't seen that sincegenerations. Uh. I am absolutely thrilled.
You know, there are quite afew on canvas, on various shows
that I think would be amazing.But you know, when we think about
all the talent that has come andgone, and even talent that we've spoken
to on this on this program,like Tanya on my my brain immediately goes

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to Victoria. So you know,stay tune to take your radio films.
Whenever we have information, we willdefinitely share it with you guys. I
have something that I can't continue toI as the second producer of Forevern to
Day, the award winning Forever inthe Day, I can also say that

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nobody has reached out to janew Allenyet. Uh So you know sity dat
because that's who I put that's mydraft pick. Alan going to the Gates
man because I want to see nowfor there's some other people from before the

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day cast that I would like toput on that and I might I might
see me up and be back inthe day. Y'all remember when she's downlin
now wow, Purns and everybody waslike, Okay, I want this person,
I want that person. I want. Yeah, it's gonna be really
exciting because I do want to seewho they get. I do. You

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know, it's it's been such ahot minute. Think about a Candice,
you know in our soulp lifetimes,right, we had Port Charles. We
saw the transition from the you know, from loving to the city. Interesting.
You know, I think both ofus are a little young to remember
the beginning of Cana Barbara, butwe had Port Charles. We had Sunset

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Beach, we had Passions. Doyou remember the fanfare leading up to Passions
when it came out? Or evenSunset Beach too. There was so much,
you know, Charles was a littlemore muted. It was linked to
General Hospital, but man, Icompletely out of the gate, so we

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have not seen that. And theboat. Yeah, even the bulls of
the people. I was a kid, but yeah, there that I will
say I will say that you know, and I want to because because he
said so, I'm not. Ialso want to give us out off to
Passions because Passions was very diverse aswell, so you know right, so

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was the same Trust up Beach alsohas you know, diversity in it as
well. I think when I thinkit's more so was the games, it's
not. I mean, obviously it'sbeen thirty years since you had enough,
you know, right, because theyare conating generations to this. But I
think the big thing for a lotof fans is that it's proper and gample.

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That's a part of this. Ithink that's what's getting everybody kind of
just like no, let a man. Yeah, Like you know, again,
we got to use network, sowe never thought we would have a
brand new network. So because it'sbecause the last one was Passion said was
a network. And the thing isis that there's I'm gonna be honest,

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there's a lot of writing if yougo by social media saying it's a lot
of things that's riding for the gates. I will say this the days at
the gate the gate is open becauseI am officially the gates keeper. I've
been saying that has that I'm gonnabe watching and I'm gonna be honest,
I'm not gonna have and Michelle,when I say this, God, you

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understand what I'm saying. I'm notputting everything onto this show because the other
shows aren't giving me what I want. So you see, I'm saying,
like, Okay, Rode, fearful, is it? Stop the dates?
Is it? But the Gates isgonna give me anything that I want.
And then if the Gates doesn't,then what you're gonna say? So I'm

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excited for the Gates. I can'twait for the promos to come out.
I can't wait for the casting newsto come out. I can't wait for
the merchandise. Oh, I justcan't wait. I'm excited. I am
excited for this transition that we're gonnago from having four So yes, that's

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the one that was streaming. Imean, well, I have to talk
about Hollyoaks a minute. So we'vegot neighbors, we got the digital audience
that is not dead, y'all.I just want more bad out so many.
What have your thoughts about the BigHonestly, I to be honest,
I haven't been following much of thenews about it. I am excited.

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I am excited for it to becoming on because it does show a I
don't want to say a rebirth ofthe soap industry, but more of a
you know, uh, a confirmationthat the genre is is still strong.
The fact that that there's a newsoap coming out, and the fact that

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it will revolve around you know,a more diverse cast, but a more
but the feature a more uh,a more minority cast being around, you
know, rather than the norm soto speak. You know that everybody gets

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on g H for not being youknow, as diverse as it could be.
I I'm axious see you waiting it. I feel like it's going to
have a definite impact. And I'mnot saying ratings wise, I'm not saying
that, you know, it's goingto take ratings from the you know,
existing soaps. It will be interestingto see the time slots that it's given

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across the nation, being that youknow, yeah, okay, so it
will be in most markets up headto head against General Hospital. Yeah so

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now you know, Now it's it'salmost like, well, you know,
it bring me back to the MondayNight Wars, you know, Nitro being
launched against Money Night Raw. Youhave the new upstart against the established show.
But I mean the fact is thatin today's television watching, you don't

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have to watch anything live, sochanges are even when it is on,
I'll still be watching it on Paramount. Plus i won't be watching it on
you know, live on TV.So so it's one of those things where
I'm happy that we're getting another soapopera. I'm happy that the genre is

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still strong and I can't wait toI can't wait to watch something brand new.
I can't watch to wait to watchsomething brand new. And you know,
I love if you guys remember orthe canvas. You know, Sunset
Beach came out with a bang,and it started with a mystery, and

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you know, I was younger anda different kind of person then I was
enthralled, was thrilled. But myword of hope, slush caution, is
that we really build whatever the foundationof the story, you know, of
the overarching you know, the soapoperas are about families. They're you know,

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they're about either families and a businessor families. They're about setting us
up so that we connect with witha family, with a with a group
of people. So you know,if y'all y'all want to come out of
the gate with a bank. Godbless, but please put the work in
to the foundation so that we connectwith the people, with the characters that

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you're giving us the foundation field thatit carries beyond the the excitement of we
finally have a new show and threemonths we don't start to see a declining
interest because you came out of thebank. You came out of the you
know, the Saul with wanting toyou know, Sprint and Rent win that

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race rather than building the foundation thatwill support the storyline a year from now,
two years from now, five yearsfrom now. Here's I don't know
where I have to I have tochime in a little bit with you.
I think, see here's here's whereI'm gonna agree with you, but also
give you a different point of view. I think that the soap fans,

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while if you is there on socialmedia, it's a very toxic place to
be, but soape fans don't havethe kind of tribalism that say wrestling fans
have. So I think that Iagree with you that you know, they
have to build a strong foundation andyou know, build the storylines the characters

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get that going. But I don'tsee, I don't see it failing to
put it that way. I thinkthe fan base for soaps in general is
strong enough to to have it survived. And I hope and pray you right,
and and I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm gonna I'm gonna say
one phrase in candas I think you'llyou'll get exactly what I mean. The

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Bay, Yeah, girl, Yeah, the Bay. I agree. Okay,
So I'm gonna I'm gonna say thisreal quick because I'm here both of
you guys, and I'm agreeing withyou guys, but I'm not from disagreeing
with you because here's here's here's theproblem. Here's the difference with the Bay.
The Bay. The Bay has beenaround for for ten years and then

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that changes. A lot of thingshave changed. Streaming services has become way
more popular than ever. We nowhave the Netflix, we have the Amazon.
Ten years ago, we we Imean, we still had YouTube.
We had the beginning of Netflix,right okay, right when it came and
networks and yes, I'm using passions. Passions were stored a kind of throne

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under the bus. And there wasa reason for that because it took over.
So that was unfairly canceled and didn'treally get the true payoff. That
is who he deserved. That wasanother world with Port Charles. It was
to connect to General Hospital. Weknew they didn't right the US just in

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a new crop using the old andwith such a being. All you had
to tell me was Aaron Spelling AndI was fuck because I was like,
Aaron Spelling is doing a gay timesThe man who gave me now on two
one up the hype and Mellow Placeand Malibu shick. He goes, you're
giving me a soap hoppy during theday with the date now fast forward.

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Let's be honest. We had likeyou just said, I mean, okay,
it's going to be on against GeneralHospital. You can still watch General
Hospital at two o'clock, or youcan watch the game since you have the
you have the alternative to watch iton PRMOU Plus or wholder that night.
It's not like it was that inthe day when you literally had as long.

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But if you're like you, youliterally had aske long turns. One
might live another world, so youhad to pick them, choose your battles,
just like you brought up the moneynight wards and I was there for
that, there was the first hour. The first hour, I'll be watching
the Night Show because I wanted tosee what was going on, but I
knew that it depending on what thesituation was, I would have to watch

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one of these shows like to findout what was going on to keep me
interested. And that's where States isgoing to have this. Today's audience has
a very short attention span. Let'skeep it on and real we have a
very short attention span because there's somuch being presented to us that we weren't.
We're like bask and Robbie. Wewant to try all the flavors right,

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but we also know we have ashort amount of time to really enjoy
it. That Gates is going tohave to do this, and I'm I'm
gonna be honest the first episode youhave to pull me in hard. Yes,
yeah, And I'm not talking abouta rascal dad when you got I'm
just saying, like, you know, like let's just say they getting done

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now Williams or they get Marty shops. I'm fine with that, but what
more fine with I want to seethe storyline. I want to know what
your storyline are. I want theintroduction at the end of the episode.
I want to be like, ohyeah, I'm thirty minutes Marcus. Oh
my god, I can't be likewhoa, Oh my god, I can't
believe. Right, but you alsoeven though like the first week's introduction week

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right heat, at the same time, like Santa Barbara, they started off
with a mystery nothing sorry, notso much with a mystery for something to
in tree you you're gonna have todo that to be honest, and we're
the aunist. We have to givethisself a chance and not feel okay,

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boh, this is a hot thing. Mm hmm Okay, my ex boyfriend
or my boyfriend or whatnot isn't givingme what I want. Let me switch
over and see this person. Oh, this person isn't giving me what I
want. Let me switch back.You're gonna have to give it a chance.
You're gonna have to give it achance. And I think Michelle.
Michelle's been in the game, y'allfor over thirty years. She knows what

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everybody's thinking, and she's seeing stuffon social media. It ain't like it
ain't like some other writers. Ain'tgonna say no name who do not have
a clue as to what is goingon. And the hype and that me
saying so let me just say thatshe's not really doing this. She's doing
this for the genre. She's notdoing this for fandom. She's doing the

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genre, and she's doing this toprove that it is still a viable medium.
And we are we are all canthis is absolutely right. You know,
there's gonna be a lull period.That's if you think back to any
show that is premiered, you know, over the last forty years, there's
a lull period. And it hasto because you have to build that.

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Why are we coming back every day? And it can't be you know,
a shot every you know, everyother episode, somebody shot, somebody falls
down the stairs, somebody loses ababy. So we're gonna have to give
it that, you know, thatout of the out of the you know,
out of the state introduction, andthen heal and learn and grow with

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the show, you know, overthe next over those first couple of months.
All right, and then we havedone. We have got four shows
that we have to reach out tosomething something You forgot something? Wake?
How does yeh can hear me?Yeah? Okay, I thank you forgot

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something? Really a thing? Howdare you what what I forgot? Next
Friday? Hoorah, Jay time,Emmy, Oh my god, yes,
yes, everybody, So next Friday, Candace, we lost you again.

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Next Friday on CBS will be theDaytime emmyes Wait, am I here,
Bennie? Do you hear me?Yes? Yes, I hear you.
You're here? Oh all right?Hopefully? Oh lord, I don't know
how to get Canvas back on andPam, I hope she didn't drop.
Oh my god, the perils ofdoing a live show, folks. Nothing

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can go wrong if it's lies.All right, Well, we wait for
Pam and Candace to work that outand get her back up on. Here,
Vinnie, what show do you wantto start with today? It's been
It's been a hot minute since we'vetalked. It has been, And honestly,
because of my schedule, the onlyshows that I'm actually caught up on
our General Hospital, and I can'teven say The Bay because while I'm going

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through I'm up to date on theBay as as much as is available on
on demand streaming. But that's somethingI go over on my show Dockside at
the Bay. But either way,the only show that I'm really up to
date on in terms of the mainfour is General Hospital. I just don't

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have the time to watch anything elseat this point. All right, you
know what I am gonna say,Let's start with days, because you're relatively
caught up. Let's start with Yeah, we get canvas back at some point.

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I personally am in that waiting periodwith days right now. There's some
juicy stuff which is good. Butbut honestly, oh boy, oh boy,
Ron, Ron, my friends whoyou know, Ron and I have
bowled together. We we we knoweach other. Ron Anthony, you know

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you know big gay wedding Anthony.You remember we've been telling you this for
a couple for a couple of months. Now, Uh, you need to
let AJ out the bag, EJout the bag. It's time you set
it up so perfectly and you keeppulling back. There's a void in the

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canvas at this point. And thevoid is this we are used to,
especially with gays. We are usedto the being the overarching, the one
that they can never quite pint iton. But we all know who's pulling
the puppet strings. And instead youkeep giving us these temporary villains. That's

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the the need for the moment.But you have the perfect character to step
in and rethme. You know,ree Phoenix as the Junior Phoenix, as
the new Phoenix, and you gotan actor dan is so damn kwel is
it? You've got an actor whocan pull it off. You had the

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opportunity a couple of years ago todo it with Kristen, because Kristen could
have been that character too, butyou know you sent her through all.
You know, she was a trapezeartist. She wrote the Elephant, she
was dancing with the with the littledogs in the Tutuo. At this point,
you know, it's not believable forher to step into the Phoenix role.

(35:40):
You really have to give us thatwith EJ and No just the thing.
Yeah, god no, I wasjust saying that, you know,
with everything, with everything with Nicoleat this point, you know, you
tease us with Susie, you tease, you tease us so many times in

(36:01):
the last year. You know,this could be the point that breaks,
that breaks and says, you knowwhat, I am my father's son.
I am going to supersede my fatherbecause don't forget there's always there was always
that love hate thing between him andStefano except for proper. You know,

(36:23):
go ahead, Denny I'm talking alot. Oh no, no, go
ahead, I'm listening. I meanI've been. I mean, I've been
watching the news about it. Iyou know, I know that Jude was
reunited with Nicole as his as hismother, or at least that's going to
be happening relatively soon. I Ilike EAJ. I think EJ has the

(36:50):
cadence to be a big time zenand I agree with you that they need
to really let him loose. Okay, I'm bad. I was just talking
about and I totally forget. Solet me just classify that as of the
seventeenth of this month, the Daysof our lives, writers are starting starting

(37:15):
to come back. Ron's script willbe this Friday. His return will be
this Friday. Here's the thing aboutj You have an actor who can actually
do it if you give him thematerial, whether it was you know,
get writers or the regular writers.And I feel it so and I said,

(37:36):
I've been very vocal about this.To me, we should have seen
dark EJ one Susan died. That'swhat I just said. Yeah, yeah,
so now have the whole thing ofhim keeping the secret about this baby.
But you know what, kudos toyou days because I've got a lot

(37:57):
of people there pick up on thatthis is what happen been to e J
when he was a baby. Ishouldn't even remember right there already is so
I don't know many I don't evenknew this or not. But e J
for a while was passing as Johnand mar Lana like like grandson and okay

(38:22):
in all right, so when Susanlike, it was a whole brother stuff.
But yeah, like you know,it was just a whole bunch of
mess because for years, like Susanand John like it before we found off
stuff. Now, John and Susanfresh Kristen was a fan, as you

(38:45):
know, and so he was beingpassed off because Susan because Christen the baby
and was trying to get that wasthe way to get John to be in
love with her and all that stuff. So for some some couple of months
in years, John thought e Jwith his baby. Un tell the truth
came out. So now and seewhat that has done with this storyline and

(39:13):
the cold storyline that you know isnow the cold is the family. E
J is well EJ, but alsosouth but there is something missing and it's
it's like they can do it ifyou give him that material. But also

(39:34):
with this whole storyline is that youhave two two couples, each of them
has gone through it, both romanticas well as kids becausej and the Cole
has lost three kids, Eric andthe Cold has not. I mean with
Holly that counts, but Eric hasno kids. So he has a kid,

(39:55):
but you don't know that's a kid. But another staff two is and
I think we often say is thereason why this storyline is again, great
performance, but there's something missing,and I think just because of what happened
behind the scenes. Yeah, wellthis was this storyline. It was to

(40:20):
come up in to Nicole for allof Nicole's past years. But the thing
is, you spent you spend somuch time making Nicole our you know,
our heroine, our person that wereready to rise and die with. She
made her mistakes, She's a tonfar mistakes, et cetera, et cetera,
And so if you were going todo the storyline, you needed to

(40:40):
take it all the way and youneeded to be those those for lack of
a better way of faith, thosebig flat moments in our faith which we
didn't get, and so it kindof fell flat on the come up into
Nicole. It's fully flat on thedynamics between the two couples and you know,
and the four main uh you know, entities involved, and at the

(41:04):
same time, you know, it'sleaving a e J looking. I don't
even know what to say. Youknow, this is Stephano's son, you
know. And as much as wewant to say about Susan, I love
Susan, I will always love Susan. But there's some devious nission up too.
You know. She's she's not thelight to Stefano's dark. She's more

(41:28):
the you know, the cream thatyou put in to soften the flavor,
so to speak. Well, nowthat we're like okay with this storyline again,
because because I'm like thinking, Iwas looking at the same with Nicole
and Howard and Ashley and has greatmy mother daughter inks and I'm like,

(41:51):
well, yay, you know,I isn't even gonna be there much longer,
Like I said the investor in thisbecause to me, it reminds me
of Amona and Erica, Erica anda Kendall, a diner of a nutral
relationship. That's how I ask,like, I'm right, But then you
have e J. And here's thesame because I had this debate. Is

(42:12):
EJ wrong for what he's feeling?Says the guilt folks. E J is
taking tired of losing out on certainfacts, and the thing is that,
yes, Nicole, I'm sorry tosay this to you and Nicole, but
this is on you because let's goback, let's go back in time.
No, no, okay, likeWayne's well, okay, you can't have

(42:38):
Eric. Your fault back is eJ. Betty, do love that man
too, because e J accepts youfor who you are. Eric, he
has to. I'm gonna get itreal. He loves you, but you
have certain flaws that he can't.You know, look over Eric, there

(42:59):
ain't no saying even though you're ahigh priest, but still you have your
issue. P e J feels asthough I'm always louising out on something set
on a certain say, he's ademarra are Demeura is not supposed to lose
anything. So a little bit ofthat demera blood is in him. But
then a getting a cold, he'sthe same. They could have told you

(43:22):
the truth. He would have saidsomething to you once he found out from
Throo. And by the way,EJ tell us alone as you got twenty
four hours to get that baby backor stro out. I'm gonna get you
and you gotta go. That wasthat was a true DeMar moment right there.
I'm like, oh, I'll giveyou that. Yep. I was
like, you're about to go tothat island that everybody else is going.

(43:45):
But then I was like, okay, then you're getting a cold drawn and
I'm like, there we go.This is how it all started. You
guys dropped the cold, you weredistant, beat and everything up like that,
and you start with that. Nowyou go ahead. Your whole world
is blowing and blowing up. Sincethat turned to J you gonna head to

(44:05):
start Christmas Turk and and I knewa J was gonna see it. And
that's when I was like, no, what e J. Lord, I
manage that I will get when you'recoming from Because again these Jay's not stupid.
He knows that if the truth comesout that Eric and the coal are
the biological terms of the baby,it's going for him and of the cold.

(44:30):
Even though he used to ask thecold repeatedly, do you love me?
Do you love me? If Ericwas was, you know, still
would you still be with me?But EJ here's begin if Sammy came walking
in and was like, I'm singleand right to lingle e J got the

(44:52):
cold handy. Yeah, this iswhat I like to call him situation of
a situation. But out of allof them, I feel bad for Eric,
this is this is what I goto you guys. Eric. I
feel bad because she's lost another child. This is practically fourth child that he's

(45:15):
lost, even though again he doesn'tknow that that baby is really hit.
I feel bad for me Jay becausehe knows what's a sake. He's not
still with yas he knows what's afake. I feel bad for the Cold
because actually no, wait the wholelet me go back cool. I feel
bad for Holly. I know she'ssent to talk to her mother's the way

(45:36):
she did that. You gotta understandhow it's pod and she's a bread and
then you have the cold, andI think the cole doesn't understand that this
is her, this is her Cammafor what she did to Mea, oh
y'all bring it up, Maya,yes you remember me? Yeah, I

(45:59):
don't say. And Sammy, yep, And that's what she said to Dave.
I can't see, I can't forgetthat, and I understand again what
they were trying to do with thecold, but to me, it just
didn't work out like whatever, justlike oh, she's the heroine of the
storyline. No no, no,no, no, this is her comma

(46:19):
because she's done this before. ToSammy, she literally had Cindy to not
even be there for the first year. That was mea that's type of I
mean with Dag, I mean,it's just a bunch of mass of a
mess. So what I'm trying tosay is this storyline is entertaining Greg Vaughn.
Emmy reel Together, Dan Emmy reelTogether says, but I can't connect

(46:43):
because are you willing? And Iagree with you, you know that before
you got back on what you know. What I was saying is is they
have turned the coal into the marowinat this point and they want us to
but they're not giving the status tothose of us that have been watching for
thirty some years. And I knowall the things that Nicole did. I

(47:05):
mean, girl, do you rememberwhen Eric was a photographer before he ever
went away the first time? Youknow? I mean, right, So
I have a question to both ofyou, and it's not even about the
current storylines itself, but are wehitting or are we missing with our team
set, with our younger sets,etcetera, etcetera. Did he use at

(47:32):
first because this is a topic thatI was presented to the then actually,
right, have any I mean,well, I mean, I know as
much as I do. The onlytwo teams that I really have seen are
Tay and Holly, and I wasn'treally into the storyline too much. I

(47:55):
feel like, you know, theyhad Holly in a calm for far too
long, Agred and you know Tate. I again, I felt like E
J. Tate in jail and thenin the halfway house just based on the
vendetta without actual proof, you knowwhat I mean. So there was a

(48:19):
lot of misteps in my opinion,that sent went on far too long.
And I get part of the reasonwhy it was. You know, Nicole
was gone for a little while duringthat time, which is why you know
Holly was in the comments, sothey could do that, But I I
don't know, I really can't commenttoo much of but it's currently going on

(48:42):
because like I said, I'm notcaught up on it. Okay, this
guya girl. Okay. So whenit comes to the teams, things on.
So we have to remember that someof these writers, not all.
I don't know how to write forteams anymore. There's not where it used
to be like twenty years ago.When by the way, Dad, you're

(49:06):
so wrong for doing this, becausewhen you brought this up, I got
almost like literally I was like onthe floor lasting the youngins tate and brought
up the Last Glass Crew, andI was like, no, what I
had to last because that's what someof these kids do, like when they
hear look, we all go yondthis when our parents say, you know,

(49:29):
back when when I went to highschool, Okay, that's fine,
that's back when y'all went to hospital. We're talking about me. We're talking
about my class. We looked aboutclass, we looked we did things right.
We know, we ain't gonna belike the Fisfels. I thought that
was funny because in reality, theLast Glass Crew we actually grew. Dave,

(49:50):
you did a really good job withthat because we literally watched all of
these kids grow up. We don'thave that on soaps anymore. Yes,
there's some people, let me clarifythis, that we have watched roll up
on TV. Jeannie Francis is oneof them. So we didn't see her
in high school. We saw herin college. Heaven tom Well, I

(50:15):
mean they really here was born inschool. But we don't have a Jonathan
Jackson who grew up from eleven yearsold on us. We don't have an
Ama Tamblin. We do have EdenMcCoy, we've seen that done grow up.
We have Hudson West over there.We don't have a team scene where
the writers gave them the material forus to really think our teeth in.

(50:40):
It's not you know, things havechanged in the world. It really has,
but you need to have that coregroup. To us, you're in
for the next for the next wave. And so to me like even like
okay, young and and rustlers,Yeah, really Kevin and our of them
they were young. That's why theycalled the Young and the restless. Since

(51:04):
you don't see I mean, yeah, we got caught and we'll get to
him later. But we don't havethe Johnny. We don't have the Reason,
the Cat, the little tape.We don't have them bro theventiful,
the young core that they kind ofhad were Nelson as he leaves them the
show, Dave draw us, LikeI said, I give them credit because
we are branching out a little bitgeneral high school and and and daves.

(51:28):
It's just the fact that the writersdon't are not connecting to giving them that
that platform where they can intertwine withthe storyline. Days threw lives literally late,
if I have to be honest,Day, you know, gave us
the high school drama. You knowwhere there was the couples, they were

(51:49):
calm, there was you know,issues with dealing with their parents because some
of them couldn't understands or in things. And now with somebody that they could
not get over the right right,You had people who were invested in that.
But we also got to remember thetarget audience. They're not they're not

(52:15):
They're not for that. They're notfor that. And I agree with you
can't let me throw this at you. We do know who these who these
case parents are and soap up atrope is you've got to give us something
from the parent to link that charactereither or something from the parent that they're

(52:37):
like the parent, or something thatthey are fighting their entire life against becoming
because of the parents. But here'sthe thing, okay with Tayton Holly,
Okay, here's your oh I mean, okay, with Nicole and Braid.
Let me stop the dumb They werede third choice parents for Nicole. Okay,

(52:59):
but you've done up, you cleancut whatnot. So you can't have
Kate and Holly be quote unquot Bamaoand Juliet minus the suicide out of Salem,
where they're not supposed to be aroundeach other. They're the best forbidding
to be with each other. It'sa problem you rush the storyline. We
know who Kate is, we knowwho Kate Tayter Tied is, we know

(53:22):
who Hobby is. One minute fiveyears old and now you pay and now
I'm sixteen years old, and youstill as you did not give us a
slow built to their parents, especiallybecause and i'mna be honest, it reminds
me of, oh god, whatis this street trip? And Ali?

(53:45):
Yes, you know what. Let'sput the contrast for one second, though,
because where they did it right yearsago was JJ and Abigail. You
couldn't have it more right with thosetwo characters, as far as building them
into the legacy based on the history, et cetera, but still planning for

(54:07):
the current way of telling so wellyou could have fight. Another factor in
is like okay, base wee lot, Sierra and Ceo. We see these
two grow up. Like when Isay like, they like, yeah,
it was a little heathen. I'llbe honest, Sierra Brady John, you

(54:27):
just to steal jewelry and say hewas with but you wrote see y'all plus
to y'all was like, but hewas that's fun. That was said,
was gunny. We saw them growup and then you know, obviously he
saw a rest central happened and thenwe saw what happened. You don't have
that investment anymore. And it's kindof sad because you know what, let's

(54:49):
be honest, one day, we'renot gonna have Bedre and Draper or Steven
and Marray Beth. We're not gonnahave Eric Brad and Marion, Thomas Scott
and all of that for me tostart doing this. So all these doubts
the Gentle Hospital, however, justa little passed though because they are doing
stuff where they're young and when youknow con because you know, school some

(55:14):
and all that stuff in the years. But yeah, so I just wish
I was I wish it was likeit was back in the day. But
I understand why it's not like that. And I could tell you from somebody
who just started, you know,watching, Like I said, this was
really my first year watching all foursoaps, and when Kate and Holly came
back to days, there was noconnection. Like for me, there was

(55:39):
no investment in the characters because theywere brand new to me. Had they
you know, and I think whatcould have possibly happened, could possibly happen,
is, you know, have themmentioned a little more. Like it
almost feels like if somebody's not onscreen, they're not mentioned at all either.

(56:00):
Even if it's a child, akid that's you know, living with
a different parent on the other onthe other side of the country, they're
not mentioned. So it's they're notfresh in, you know, in viewers'
minds or even reminding the viewer whothey are or introducing them as new viewers.

(56:21):
But you know, sometimes that canbe overcome them. Look at Stephanie,
who you know obviously came through beyondSalem, but you know they did
way they understood that they had tothey had to link that and build that
character. And Stephanie was a wasa prime example of a good way to
bring that kind of character back.But you're right, we don't see anything

(56:43):
about so many characters, and thenall of a sudden, magically you want
us to be invested any right,And I get that sourus happens. You
can't theoretically, you cannot watch somebodyin real time age. Now, you're
right. We have seen it withthe mccally. We saw it with Cheverly

(57:05):
McCullough, Kimberly McCullough. You know, so we have seen it before.
And I know that's a rarity,you know, because because you know,
kids want to go to school,they want to pursue other interests. I
get that it happens, But ifyou could you know, if there are
the kids out there, whether whetherit's going to be you know, the

(57:27):
newer generation, whether it's going tobe Wiley or Violet or whomever, you
know, if they're able to belocked in for a long term contract or
at least keep kept on recurring oncein a while so you can still have
that emotional connection to the talent,to the character, then you know,

(57:50):
and maybe even because the other thingthat's going to happen is, like you
were saying, the current writers can'twrite for younger performers, whether it's because
they're out of touch, whether it'sbecause of you know, just the different
generations. Maybe they have to startbringing in you know, high school and
college intern writers during the summer towrite for those younger kids, because that's

(58:14):
that would be more apropos for thecharacters whatever it is, you know exactly
the writing program with you see somethingand that would be a great idea.
Also, you know, you dohave you do have other shows on the
network, you know, just dowriting a weekend retreat between shows so that

(58:36):
you know you can share the information. All right, before we leave,
because I'm looking at the time.I got a play time keeper tonight before
we leave Salem Camus. I'm almostimagining that this one more, one more
piece you want to talk about.Yeah, that is now, let me

(58:57):
do it. Hold on. Andthe reason I'm classic is because to me,
they are by far the best writtencouple on daytime television. And yes,
because to me, see this isseek You're not only giving us a

(59:22):
situation that they're facing together as acouple, but also stuff that they're faith
in individuals, because sometimes when youget a parent together, you forget mostly
just a female's identity. So letme tell you this right now, I
find it right interest in days andhas gone this route. But I'm glad

(59:45):
they want this route because it's atopic that everybody is talking about and I'm
for one. And right say,Dave been gotten because I really did think
she was going to come and makethat trying to see I really did the
day was like just trying to sayit down. But if we fooled you,
what's done? Then he y'all thoughthe had all commas. No,

(01:00:07):
he was really the devil. Sothat's what Chanelle and Johnny's gonna keep the
baby for real talk. And andhere's the thing about Egypt, because I
so a lot of people saying,well, Egan was wrongful what he said.
Now he was being the concerns,he was being the voice for everybody
else in the back. He's what, Johnny, what do you want?

(01:00:28):
What do you want to do?How is this going to affect you?
Because you're being very quiet that Iunderstood, Johnny. Johnny doesn't know what
to say because the thing is tosay he doesn't want to unstand Chanelle.
He doesn't want to say the wrongthing because he knows that this is a
very sensitive and emotional topics. Right, Okay, we got Chanel Channelle is

(01:00:54):
going to feel a certain type ofway because partly the reason for this,
because of what may be wrong withthe baby and her mama's fault. See,
Chanel's gonna feel a certain type ofway. And I know everybody was
like, well, she says,she has the same type of way to
her mom. Yes, she shouldn'tin a way. She's in her moment

(01:01:14):
right now, you guys, Yes, but she feels her mother shouldn't have
done this. If her mom didn'tdo what she did, there would have
been a seventy five had said chancethat this baby and hop because theres to
say, I'm gonna be wondering ifsomething down the line is gonna happen to
Chanel, even though she know it'sbeen clear, who's to say in six

(01:01:35):
months something's not gonna happen to howSo with that being said, Chanelle feels
a certain type of way with paulLena. See this, this is what
I'm talking about. This is umbrella. This is Umbro's gonna lie. Probably
Pauline did what every parent would do. The police ain't doing anything practice that
job, sitting forever the to day. I'm gonna go find my baby.

(01:01:59):
I don't care on my radiation.She wasn't thinking at the time when you're
a parent, no even I'm like, when you're about to do something,
sometimes you don't think until after youdo it, right, we're all fealty
of it. So she was inthat moment, but now she realizes it's
so crap, and she was like, right, I'm not talking to you.

(01:02:21):
I don't care heavy mother, saywhatever bye, Like you got another
daughter you can talk say ye.Johnny has to be the one to kind
of go like, Okay, I'mgonna keep quiet for right now while I'm
trying to get my stuff together,because again she now it's very vulnerable right
now. And like j said,you know, maybe you need to come

(01:02:42):
in at the funny because who knowsdown the line what's gonna happen. And
I love the fact that Daveels hasbrought in Felicity. I like that name,
see me. I love the factthat we have we have we have
the young lady playing her and sheis connected to Holboy in high school,
their brother or sister. I likethe fact that Sanell can talk to her

(01:03:06):
and get happy. We'll be ofhow she's been treated growing up. See
see what Dave is doing see andI mean for everybody to start watching Days.
In all honesty, I know he'sjust a lot of but that far
right now, and let's want tobe honest, Dad is entertaining me.

(01:03:28):
But Dave has got me hooked theirjoy on this show that I'm the fight.
Oh yes, So I structured thisconversation this way because honestly, you
and I both mentioned Ron in ourspecific ways. There is a lot a
lot of good happening right now oncampus, a lot of good stuff we

(01:03:51):
hooked into. We pointed out acouple of things that you need to tweak
and play with and bring back toreality and et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. You know where youknow where you need to do some storyline
like jumping through the loop right quick. But the stuff that's working is really
really working, were really really investigate. So take the gift because it's more

(01:04:13):
goal than it is work that needsto be fixed. Take the gift and
continue and play with us. Thisis the show that you know, I
think it's today, by the way, today is see your holiday in Los
Angeles. Hey, Okay, Thefact that this is the show that did
sick, that did Lasy's brain timmer. That did that right. They know

(01:04:38):
how to do emotional storyline. Whata meaning because again, when we heard
Stanell was trying to especially the factthat she was exposed to radiation. And
I'm honestly, I bet and I'mguilty. I'm SiO. I sat down
and I was faking. What isthe now going to do? If I
was in that position? What wouldI have done? And I think the

(01:04:59):
majority of us I was saying,it's gonna be a combination because it's a
lot of stress, it's a lotof finances, it's a lot of things
to deal with a child that hadthat that. I don't want to say
not normal because look, all kidsare not normal. Okay, they just
had their own child that is gonnaneed a lot of extra support. Well,

(01:05:20):
I always say their unique superpowers.I always say that, but that's
what they have, their own superpowers. You know, there's some things that
like Anthony, you have your ownsuperpowers, like you're a unique superhero,
I'm a unique Supervivo then needn't youknow? Right, We're all different.
But it is a little bit more, especially if it's down center and stuff

(01:05:41):
like that too. And I applauddazel All lives. Whether it's because again
the Basil writers are coming back intotheir folds. So this story actually started
with sharing Anderson in them a littlebit. So I have to give credit.
What credit is due is that,I feel. So everybody sat down
and with that whiteboard and was like, Okay, this is time. We're

(01:06:03):
gonna keep this as much as wecan. We're going to keep this going
because there's something there. There's somethingthere. It's emotional and it's controversial.
And you have your players because yes, Dan has two stories that be involved
with kids, Constant Boltman and RavenBrook. That's the stars. They're the

(01:06:27):
stars of the storyline. Yeahs,both of them are amazing, and the
fact that they get to play withthe supporting players that are also amazing.
You know, Jackie, you know, honestly, two years ago, I
thought to myself, all right,what is she really gonna do on Dazaba?
Okay, jack a girl, letme do your songs already. Yeah,

(01:06:55):
all right, we do really reallydo need to move along, and
since we really didn't touch on GeneralHospital at all, we're going to give
them a little extra love tonight.Ooh okay, we's gonna start out I
think that General Hospital made the absoluteright choice. I put it all out
there on social media and this isexactly how I feel. You gave us

(01:07:18):
red Herring after red Herring in thisgregory storyline. So we need is waiting
at one point for the miracle cure. We was waiting that it was a
mere you know, somebody was givenin something weird. It was not happening
at all. You took us downall the different roads. I love you,
General Hospital, but als is notsomething that the rest of the symptoms

(01:07:41):
you could do well. I loveyou, but this is not This is
not the storyline for you. Sothank you for bowing him out in the
middle of his sleep peacefully. Thankyou, thank you, thank you I
have thank you for tying up allthe loose ends. I thought the wedding
the wedding. It was our versionof a Luke and Laura wedding. You

(01:08:03):
know what I mean. We gotfour days of wedding, we got multiple
storylines coming to act. We gota classic soap wedding on a nail soap
budget. But they are Man andTracy, Oh you they are. You

(01:08:23):
know you can't take one parent awayfrom a child. Tracy has always been
Edward Cortermine's daughter, and she's notgonna stop being Edward Cortermine's daughter. But
she is finally instead of screaming andkeeping her poor little Lilah side locked in
the attic like while I was inthe attic, she don't kick that door
open and let her come out andthe Lilah side of her. It is

(01:08:45):
amazing. Oh my god, GeneralHospitals. There's a lot of things you're
doing right there, some things youare still doing so very wrong. But
this this allowing her to finally recognizeshe can have have qualities of her mother,
and she can love the pieces insideof her that's her mother and all
of that. Oh y'all have donegood with that. Thank you for giving

(01:09:09):
us as much Violet as we've got, and thank you for opening the door
to bring back Kiden. I don'twant to take up all the oxygen.
Then the road. Let's go toVinnie next. Vinnie. What about General
Hospital right now? Is h's relatingyou good stuff? Absolutely everything. I
think General Hospital is firing on allcylinders right now. I have been truly

(01:09:33):
enjoying it. It's, in myopinion, it's can't miss TV. At
this point, I was kind ofshocked that they did have Gregory Dynasty,
but you're right, it was theright choice because instead of having to really

(01:09:53):
go through all the symptoms of ALSand having to play all that out,
they just had him bow out,which I agree with the best choice,
and if the rumors are true,it kind of gives Michael Easton yel as
well, being that he's you know, going back on his sobriety. And

(01:10:15):
you know, I am enjoying.I feel bad for you know, the
cast when they have to you know, lose a member of their you know,
member of their roster who's you know, who's passing away and they have
to go through all that and thescenes in my opinion over the past couple

(01:10:35):
of weeks between Tracy and Anybody,I am loving Tracy's new character. You
know, she's still got the snark, but she's much more compassionate. Her
friendship with Gregory changed her. Andshe even said that you know her you

(01:10:58):
know, her willingness to accept Tody, her friendship with Stella, which I
think is absolutely fantastic, you know, and the scenes that she had with
Brooklyn before the wedding, Yeah,priceless. Yeah. I and then Jane
that scene with Ned we have allgone Kansas just for one second. We've

(01:11:21):
not been waiting for thirty five yearsfor that scene. Were yes, yes,
yes, go home? Then yougo on? Yeah? No,
I am truly enjoying it. AndJane Elliott could have chemistry with a broomstick
that good. But just the waythat she has been portraying the new Tracy

(01:11:46):
this world. I if I didn'tlove Tracy before, I am in love
with her now. And that's,you know, a credit to the writing,
the writing team. That's more ofa credit to Jane Elliott. I
absolutely agree with you too. Toyour overall point, I will definitely say

(01:12:09):
that everybody, as far as theactors are concerned, are so on point.
And the amount of dialogue that ishappening. Let's take Anna for a
second. The amount of dialogue thatis happening around Anna is about the writing,
absolutely, but it's about Vanola beingable to play it and give us
were all in okay. Having saidthat, I think it is firing on

(01:12:31):
almost all cylinders. Any other storylinebefore we go to Kansas that is really
titillating you. What I just wantto say is overall, I say,
you know, when I heard onStephen Bradsbord's podcast recently when Kirsten storm was
was interviewed that all the characters,all the actors, are excited when they're

(01:12:54):
getting their their scripts now. AndI think that's what's also leading to the
the the overall tone of the showbeing so positive, in that the actors
are in good, good headspace.They're not feeling bogged down by the scripts.
They're excited to get their ships,are excited to see where things are

(01:13:15):
going. I'm excited with I'm excitedwith Jason's new Jason's character. I like
the idea that at the core,he's the same, he's still you know,
protecting Kylie, which is the entirereason why that he's you know,
undercover for the FBI. But Ilike that you're seeing the more complex character

(01:13:41):
of Jason. You're seeing me andJim having to work together for Danny and
co parenting. You're seeing, youknow the fact that Jake doesn't want to
have anything to do with him,so he's got it at some point try
to reconcile that relationship. I'm gonnas and Kandas is gonna understand this General

(01:14:02):
Hospital. I'm gonna make up anaward. Right now, you are getting
the you finally listened to your audienceaward For about twenty years or so.
Now, a huge portion of theGeneral Hospital fan base is alas lamented that
Jason had one storyline. He hadso many arcs and they would give us

(01:14:25):
a moment with Monica and Robin wouldcome back and they'd have a moment.
But basically he was always in onespace, the entire arc of the original
Jason. And when they tried Jasontwo point zero, they tried to fix
it and it didn't work. Itwasn't horrible, but it didn't work.

(01:14:45):
This time they have got it dandasit is your turn, what do you
want to talk about? Girl?And tell me you agree with me that
they listen to us after all theseyears and allow us to have all of
Jason's you know, Rainbow orbit.Here's okay, So here's what I'm gonna
say. I did see that interviewwith Christmas Storms and that was I think

(01:15:09):
that was right. They film thatreal before the announcement about Patrick Malachy leaving
the show. Yeah, I'm gonnabe honest there, okay, can't just
gonna be honest and real quick.I said this in real time, and
that when Anthony heard me say itis that Patrick is a pop pal writer.

(01:15:33):
And when I say po pow,he shoots for good storytelling. He
shoots for that got for the dialoguethat needs to be said instead of covering
everything up. And so when Christissaid that about the scripts and everything,
I was like, well, good. I was like, good, this

(01:15:57):
is Amanda Gad you could click brooms. This is the man who gave you
if you gotten like He's the reasonfor the blackout. He's the reason for
some stuff with roches Thorp. That'swhy Michael bad for got his tady.
There was Joe right. There wasa different vibe. And you know,
I know Elizabeth gets a lot,but she's been there for thirty years.
Okay, so she says, know, some stuff that is just the structure

(01:16:21):
of the dialalogue on General Hospital hasjust gotten me back in with Jason Ratan.
As we all know, this wasa storyline that has been edited,
rewrote, rewritten, and all thatfreeon right. It was edited. It

(01:16:41):
was it was written from Dan andChris, then it was edited, then
they rewrote themself, and now they'regonna have to do an edit. Hes
Gris Math I like the fact thatJason isn't okay. When he first came
back, they shocked me in thesense of he wasn't gonna be so cold,
you know, and the worst offrom a lesson says study Corrupto's right

(01:17:05):
hand man. You know he hasbeen doing that, said and sheer purpose
do I think the purpose would havebeen, colleague is. We'll talk about
that later on that, but I'dlike to say he's more Espen, more
oot Candice. I'm gonna break inhere and say, though I am sorry,
there is a huge part of me. In a couple of months,

(01:17:27):
I'll make the final determination, butthere's a huge part of me that's sorry
that he did not come back.Jason Quartermaine, I really liked the idea
of that story. Louis Is mamasaid Jason Quartermain, and I dropped out
worst because I was like, didI miss something here? Right? Because
remember at the wedding, Lewis's momwas like, Jason Cortermain, how bad?

(01:17:51):
Yeah, not to myself, asnobody cold this woman that he's not
Jason cortermine anymore. I mean,you know what I'm saying, But I'm
thinking thing myself. You know whatthis is an old lady and he's not
gonna say anything. But I thoughtit was weird he didn't say anything,
but I'm like, okay to me. I think because of what had happened,

(01:18:14):
especially when Jason talked about the tattoo, I thought that was really interrupting.
As well. I do see achange in Sonny, I mean,
and Jason that I have been waitingfor. However, I also know that
they can allow Jason to go toofar out of character, and I think
for me as a fan, Ifeel accept that I have to accept that

(01:18:36):
Sonny and caring are the base ofhis life and I have to I have
to learn that. But I dofind him being in interactive with his own
family, like him going the factthat he went to the wedding. I'm
like, he went to a quartermainfamily event like this car Monica, and

(01:19:01):
I was like, you know,there's something else. But I also like
the fact that Jason is dealing withIf I'm gonna be honest, I like
the fact that Jason is dealing withthe fact of his children. We're good.
I've been I've been waiting for that, you, Candice. But also
the fact that there is a certainamount of people that is like Jason is

(01:19:23):
not a god, you know,and accountable, like the dialogue, Like
the dialogue has been because everybody's sayingeverybody's being written out of character. Now
it's just for years, literally peoplehave wrote these characters as if they were
God, when in my honesty,my fellows, not the healthy worship.

(01:19:45):
Okay, And I'm gonna jump andI'm gonna jump in here and say about
Sam. Okay, I hear whateveryone is saying. And to a certain
point, you can look at itthat way and it is valid, but
look, get it see other way. She is older, She's twenty as
older now, she has two kids. She is one of the guys.

(01:20:10):
As I'm bringing Elizabeth and say thisbecause that's the time for all to be
saying, well Elizabeth and Skill.Then you think, you know, look,
I'm honest. Hey, Lee's fanssay, Jason fans, what's up.
I'm I'm don mutual supporter. ButI always have said this the campos
Jason on all of this. Ittakes Tree to king out Sam exactly what's

(01:20:33):
getting involved in with Jason? Andso did Elizabeth. So for y'all,
for everybody on social media to saythat Elizabeth is saying, you know,
I love the fact that that DonRoge will finally say when Elizabeth says,
I elized what I did. Yes, because your cost, your actions has

(01:20:53):
caused consequences. And I've been waitingseriously for General Hospital to have uh,
you know, cut on this.Jeff was Michael a couple of years ago.
Rob was there for this. There'sa scene Thenny, I want you
if you've seen the scene or notwhere Michael was being set into jail,

(01:21:13):
and the judge has said that becauseof Michael. The reason that Michael,
one of the reasons that Michael hasbeen driven to this point was because of
the guidance that he was given byJason, Sonny and Carling and everybody else
failed him. Stept for Dante.And I'm saying, and I've got because

(01:21:34):
now we have Jake. Jay showsthe same type of way Danny and here's
the same. So Danny actually hasthe closest relationship to Jason. Why because
we Rob Jay was supposed to bedead when Jay came back there. So

(01:21:54):
yeah, they have a real weirddynamics. But I'm here for it.
I am here for it. I'mhere to me to want to play out
because Jason now has become the charactersthat I've actually wanted. He now has
to pick and choose his battles.He's been gone for two two years because

(01:22:15):
of Carl for the Now, that'sa doll, that's a robe. But
as you got it right, becausebut you got it. You made everybody
believe you were dead. Hey,like you said, has matured, Elizabeth
has matured, your boys has matured, and your family. Welcome to your

(01:22:41):
new world basement. Yeah. Andspeaking of you know, the characters quote
unquote being written out of out ofcharacter, I have to laugh when people
are saying that Laura and Anna arebeing written out of character because they wouldn't
turn their back son Sonny. Andhere's here's the thing. Laura, being

(01:23:05):
the mayor of the town, Annabeing the police commissioner, should want nothing
to do with an alleged mob bossy. I understand, yeah, I hear
you, But you can't ignore whatwe have been through for the last twenty
years. That's the thing, youknow, this is not the revelation that

(01:23:28):
should have brought these these two womento where they are. I'm sorry.
They know him, they have beenthrough crap with him. It's not it's
not all that we have lived throughat this point. Go ahead, Candace,
but not not not to cut youoff any but I gotta say that
what Anna se doesn't know Sonny aswell? Okay, Okay, Annah wasn't

(01:23:53):
there for when Sonny was there forRobbins. Okay, Okay, yeah,
Annah was there. Okay. However, with lawd there's a lot of Sunny

(01:24:13):
has been a part of Lord's goodand bad. Because here's the same when
when they came to town and whatnot. Yeah, Ruthy and Sonny were cool
and everything. Then you had sownthey had lucky kind of being like working
for Sonny for a minute there,but not in that sense. But also
Lord that Sonny has thought about adanger to her family. But if it

(01:24:38):
wasn't for the Sunny, Nicholas onethat had gotten shot in the throat,
r gotten hurt, Rocky one't havegot in the fire. Because you know,
people blame temple aized things. ButLord, for those who keep saying
Lord's being written out of character,even I'm gonna even connect the heather stuff.

(01:24:59):
This is the same woman, folkshold for over thirty years was nice
to a racist. This is awoman who look at the good of the
Cassadine. This is the one whodoes believe, just like another certain young

(01:25:20):
lady on the show who everybody wasjumping on, believes that there is some
good in that person that needs tocome out. And she's she's been a
cycle of that where she's been.She's the good in people when other people

(01:25:41):
don't see it, and she doestry to push that agenda a little bit
to me, like with Sonny,Like I said, Sunny has been a
product called wall for so long.She knows the greater, she knows the
good, she knows the bed.Right now she has to be the mayor
and she's doing it right. No, she's not if Anna doing what she

(01:26:04):
has to do. Well, yes, I know, I agree with you
that they're doing what they have todo. But what I don't agree with
is that there isn't a conversation likewait a minute, something off. We
know this man, this is notthe man. We know something is off.
But see, I think we're gonnaget that. But not right.

(01:26:26):
It's because right because like with Sunny, right now, nobody knows what's truly
going on. What's help As forthose real quick who says he doesn't know
what's most up with Avery? ButI also got to say this, Sonny
knows something is off because there wasa scene in the last week or the
week before he was in his bathroom. Set was because I said, oh

(01:26:48):
my god, General hospital showing bathroomsnow where he's like patting his face and
he looks in the mirror and hetimes to has like a reaction time when
you are on your medication and you'relike saying, you're taking twenty milligrass per
day, right, and you getyou know, outside to where they're now

(01:27:09):
giving you. Right, let's justsay you go from twenty to fifteen,
you're going to feel something, butin time, you don't know if it's
the medication or something else. Heknows in the back of his head something
is off, but right now it'sso much cloud that he doesn't you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, Andwhen Kyley was saying, get your blood

(01:27:32):
work done, No, that's golly, you said it. Now let him
go because that's not your husband,right. But I think they've set it
up to this point. Yeah,no, it's hard to cut you off.
But I think they say that tothe point where Carle, the character

(01:27:54):
of Carly is the one that knowsSonny the best over everybody. I mean,
they've been married for five times orwhatever, and I but I and
I think that's reality, the factthat that they're you know, divorced,
they're not in each other's lives,but they are co parenting. She recognizes

(01:28:15):
that he's that that something is wrong, whether it's his meds or whatever,
so she does care. She wantsto make sure that he's okay. But
you're right, she she brought itup to him, She said, get
your blood work done to check it. He's being defensive. He agrees to
get it done on a defensive justto prove that nothing's wrong, and she
has to be the one to followthrough. She can't. She can't hold

(01:28:39):
his hand and bring him because that'snot her position anymore. Yeah, good
good. I'm gonna say I agreewith you. But in most sunny and
Colligue, you know, people thathave been all along the ride, we

(01:29:00):
all know that she still loves him. She may not be in love with
him that way, but she stillloves him. She it's not gonna be.
I spoke to him and now I'mdone, and that's not cary either
way, honestly, And I'm gonnabe the one to say that I hope
this is not bringing Sonny and Caliback together. This is the storyline that

(01:29:21):
you know, No, let her, let her go through it all and
then still be independent, callie whoshe is right now, I just have
to throw one more cricular thing inthere. I'm sorry. I might be
one of like seventeen people on theplanet, but I loving drew A.
Nina, Oh yeah, absolutely,I loan it. I don't like anything

(01:29:46):
else about him. In fact,I kind of cringe when he's in any
other scene with anyone else. Icringe. But I am loving him and
Nina. Mm h. Get toolate for me. It's too late for
me. You had two heres todo something like this, and you choose
now all of a sudden, forwhatever reason. Huh. I can't for

(01:30:10):
y'all, who knows what I'm saying. Put me up on Twitter now all
of a sudden, you're doing it. Like to me, this is this
is a let This was a anot so good turn of events because I
was I've been I said, thisshould have happened two years ago. This
should have been set up two yearsago. It's not like it's not like
they didn't test you Anna before becausethey did. I didn't know what happened.

(01:30:34):
I had my my, my,my thoughts and serious about it.
But now all of a sudden,you're allowing you to breathe. You'll let
him be like, oh now,what really doesn't make sense is a political
person is now Growmingham upset upset okay, And that's where I'm saying, general

(01:31:00):
isn't on fire. I'm loving electionsin the law thing, but no bad
canis okay. Little bits about thelectures say again you're the writers, thank
you, because we have to wrapthis up. This is this is something.
Look we fancive and screaming. ALestis needs to be a lawyer so
we can have the mil versus eLestis battle. Because if you're not gonna

(01:31:25):
Lena Baldwin, I need to seemother and daughter and go in in the
in the courtroom. I love thefact that you're you brought that bad job.
And yes, I know it wassad. I know said it was
a jack sent But I love thefact that Ring James was born. I
like this. I'm like America,Yes this is the second band. Well

(01:31:46):
run Jason, allow us to doit, so so can Gental hospitals got
done it. I love yet thatthey're like having a something because he said
I'm like this, I'm like,oh my god, I'm life. If
they're gonna are they're gonna ring upthat a like you know how to do
tongue in cheeks. So her pastorwas there, so it's like, are
they gonna say that this guy's livingin Santa Barbara in his shorter? Like

(01:32:09):
are we going to have a momentwith somebody said she looked like the guy
knew back in the day. Iwas saying, waiting for all of that,
but I'm glad that our left offools going to you know, for
thirty days. It's exactly logit paintto leave reviews. And I was saying,
but I probably that was kind ofcute. I am her again,

(01:32:29):
I didn't. I was like,I was like, I'm right, man,
here's AMers. I was like,did it? But then also real
quick because there was something else thathappened. Did paste say she and all
that? Okay, yeah, thatwas it hurt. I just wanted to

(01:32:50):
make the mention of the whole layday so good, So go all right,
you know, we we spend sometime and we should because we skipped
them last week. All right,let's go to Los Angeles, girl to
listen. I didn't get not sayingabout the spending Gregory stuff. Oh god,

(01:33:13):
real quick, I'm gonna be honest, Michael Easton. I came for
a lot of things, but Ithink that was by far your best performance
on the show. It was real, and I thought, and like I
said, I thought everybody saying certainthings for social media. And again,
look, it could have should haveworn off greg parents. It should have

(01:33:33):
been Juff Webber, This should havebeen Alizabeth story. It would have had
more of the impact. However,what's that being to me? It kind
of personally, I got aspected bythis because we all have that current or
grandparent or great grandparents. Your luckydad kept saying, you might have hope
I live long enough to see UA, B C D F G.

(01:33:56):
Right. So, the fact thatGregory kept calling Chase who I thought,
his singing out that you know,I hope to see you married the love
of your life. I hope tobe there da da da da dah.
That was on his bucket list.The fact that Finn and him had an
argument that's real white right, right, But again there's people that we probably
had arguments with but we didn't call, and then we find out, you

(01:34:18):
know, you know, they passedaway. I thought they deal with it
the best way they could. Iwill say this, one of the hardest
things to do is a parent explainto a child about das. Yeah.
So the fact violent you know,Vonn was all excited for catching the bouquet

(01:34:39):
and then she was like, yeah, we gotta go and stuff like that.
But when Sin came home and herealized that nobody like you couldn't even
hear breathed, you could tell Finnknew something was wrong. When he went
in and he did what he did, my heart broke for him. And
I'm be honest, if you knowthe story, I don't. Vinnie and

(01:35:00):
Anthony watched the Alan rocker Michael Faminestand up to cancer of that, but
it was there. Michael Easton wasthere. When Kamar Deli reads could play
that Tonyo passed away. He wasin the room. So I think,
because oh, we got emotion ontop of emotion here, but that when
his father is drawn and he replayedtheir final conversation and then he explains to

(01:35:24):
Violet was going on, and thenhe goes ahead and he breaks his sobriety.
Look regardless, because this was thetopic two. But he was doing
drugs regardless of the thing. Hewas trying to feel numb. So if
he couldn't get the dugs, hehad alcohol. That's another structing. He
broke his sobriety because he was hurt. I thought the way he talked to

(01:35:48):
Chase was really good. I thoughtElizabeth I had an issue with because yes,
he's dealt with this before because ofRockie, but also at the same
time, that's urn me. Violetis her me, so she's trying to

(01:36:10):
get her out the house. Anotherthing is is that when she said I'm
gonna be honest, look, Idon't I want to say hey, because
hate it's strong word. I justlike when people say this, especially when
it's the same day of the event. I can't imagine what you're going through.
You're right, you can't, sosee that would have been my line,

(01:36:30):
right, you're right, you can'tbe but you can't imagine how I'm
feeling right now because your dad andyour mom been gone for twenty five years,
so exactly, they already dead tome, So that would have been
my line. Thank you very much. I'm just here to say my emmy
leader. But you know she wasdoing that the del rightly got me upset
for car pasion. Yeah yeah,oh my god. Yeah. Now,

(01:36:55):
I mean before we got to LosAngeles stating the course of the listen thing
because everybody's on debate. Yes,their friends, But like I said before,
when you go through the hospital ofgeneral Hospital's doors, your friendship is
out the door. When you goin your coworkers, you can care and

(01:37:16):
whatnot. Pusha. I do thinkhe came on a little too strong,
Elizabeth. Okay, you said,okay, I'll tell you. Yes,
of course, cool drinking. Andhere's the thing, it doesn't matter if
he was at home or at work. The man is now a liability.
Besides, now you talk Prusha andnow person may not go to the board.

(01:37:45):
However, and if something happened,if Flynn says, oh, I'll
be right back, I gotta goto the locker to you know, get
some medication. Or if Finn dropsa utensil or medical utensil for doing medical
mistake, that's what courses can do. Don't say, well, Finn,

(01:38:09):
we was, you know, reportedlydrinking. Who told you this? Nurse
Elizabeth Weber. Yo, I'm justout on the I think this may be
connected to the elected rummer that andhe is out. But we'll see,
we'll people watch on. But Ithink that was so far good a Jardom

(01:38:31):
thump, Ji missed Love Angeles,onto the flows and the weddings you can
have did at the boat in thewedding. Okay. So so Jos said
that brook Brooklyn and Chase wedding wasthe event of the century or the year
whatever. No, no, no, noble, it wasn't. I mean,

(01:38:53):
it was a great wedding. Lovedthat wedding, jo. However,
the wedding of the year by farwas still Carter and d Just show let
me talk to you then, allright, yeah, yeah, now we
have where everything comes up roads titles, right, Celia and Deacon are love.

(01:39:16):
They love, no, so muchlove that they decide they ain't going
to the beach. No no,no, They're They're going to the people
that want to be in the la. That's that's what it is.
People want to be Okay, Sothey have it all pushed out. The
theme is nine total deep not toldthey had the nine to which it was.

(01:39:40):
So I'm seriously you the sus designis bettergate overwards because that was some
good. I wanted some that food, so, you know, wanted wanted
one thing. She wanted her sonto be there, and Deacon wanted Hope
to be there, and Hope waslike, don't think so and goos like
they will move too, but tome, it's you beja, I know,

(01:40:00):
we mean a lot for Sheila too. At the same time, Sanna
is being told right, it wasmean a lot for your mom, you
know, g you do stuff likethat. Stephy is like, don't you
there go because dah da da dada. Hope felt a certain type of
way and asked Steffie saying, sobasically you're controlling sen what to do,
and Stephane was right, we can'tbe near Sheila. Sheila's not good for

(01:40:25):
our health. Speaking of how Hopehad some headaches at some tension when she
saw Finn and Sin decided to massageher and then all the tension went away.
Yeah. Son. Before that,we also find out Learna is not
prennant. She's not punning you guys, listen holy man. But again,

(01:40:55):
the big top of the town isjust running. So what happened was,
you know, with family pizza night. So Finn went to the pizza place
and you know, Sheila and Deaconare getting ready to you know, walk
down the aisle and all that stuff, so guess your part. Helpe and
there looking like why the hell amI here? And so then the lady

(01:41:16):
told some that T Spinn this likea private matter. She looks and Deacon
a half off these Fin. Shewas like, oh my god, we're
still here. And Tom that's hisname, right, Tom, right?
Tom performed the ceremony. I gotsomething to say about that, Bet.
Deacon looked out for him, andDeacon and Sheila are now married. Said

(01:41:41):
Hope is like, so you gonnatell Steffie where you was at because I
know she's probably blowing up the phone. And Sinn is like, yeah,
guy's telling her the truth. Andthen didn't tell. If you watch today
show for alert, he did tell, you know, Suffie. And then
Saffie saw the photo that Tom tookuppearing on the social media account of the

(01:42:01):
Piece of Place, and of coursewe had had something to say about it,
but he was he was just saidto get pizza and watch the kids,
and then he left. Wow,and that was going to beautiful.
I'm just gonna say. And alsoPoppy and Bill just starting something and Katie

(01:42:24):
take down Ty and she was like, so you had him first, and
Poppy was like, yes, wehad a mat we had a deep love.
God he only had a one nightsays And you know, so Kay
has a little bit of I wantto say Gwen on her face. So
yeah, but you know it's okay. So I'm gonna say that first off,

(01:42:54):
I'm actually really liking Bill and Poppy. I don't know about long term
or anything like that. It's givenme some good scenes. Girl, Katie,
girl, girl, please girl.Okay, that's what I'm gonna say
about that. I expected nothing lessfrom Sheila and Deacon. Okay, they

(01:43:18):
were acting out like they were ona reality television show. It was the
best. I felt like, thisis so over the top. What's the
word. I don't know, butit was like they were on a reality
television show and it was love isfinally found and love is celebrated and love

(01:43:40):
is blessed and now we have dramaand I need my and then and then
they show everything happened and the fairytale doesn't come true and I'm gonna cause
some trouble on the other side ofit. Ooh bonus, yes, bold
and the beautiful perfect j Benny.I am so far behind I can't even

(01:44:05):
comment, God, but we'll waituntil you say it. Candace Can I
said, yeah, I'm sorry,hand down the wedding of the year.
Let me tell you something I neverthought in the years of them watching the
shows, that Deacon Sharp and shilCarter would be that couple, dan couple,

(01:44:30):
a married couple at that. Youmean to tell me that Cela is
now hope stop Mama and Sheela's motherand Sacti's mother in law. You're talking
about destiny God right, miserably wrong. Cela is now connected to families that
she want to get for years okayfour years, and for this to happen,

(01:44:56):
and even hope right to me,okay, hope to me. I
wish she would have actually back downa little bit because you did this when
Deacon and Quinn was getting married.You actually to ask your dad to pick
and choose. And I know deeponwouldn't have picked and choose. But the
thing is is that I'm so Istill feel like Hope is she doesn't want
to lose anybody anymore she lost.I mean as well rankings on the way

(01:45:21):
right with Liam, she lost calmnessfor right now. By the way,
Matthew's coming back through all those peoplewho said he was fired and all that
stuff. You know, he wasn'tvacation with his wife, thanking, But
like we got some drama Dad becauseHope, Hope, Hope always wanted to
know her dad and always wanted tohave that relationship, a silent relationship with

(01:45:43):
her father. So it was sortof like in a way then and Hope
was was uh bribe, but youknow, black now, I don't know
what the word is to be therewith Sheila. Look, Seila is getting
all her glory right now, shegot the man she's got in you least

(01:46:03):
on life. She's letting everybody knowshe is still a freaking carter shop lord.
That's what I believe, the factthat she has sinned. And I
ask him, do you remember mesaying on the show, I said,
sin is not going to be apartisipant in this wedding unless he was four.
And that's what it was, becauseSin is too He didn't want to

(01:46:25):
say no, he didn't want tocause the scene and whatnot. And then
you got head over there and rightfullyso giving him to look like, please,
don't get me if you don't wantto here, right I'm begging you
with my eyes, do not begyou out here. And I'm saying,
I'm just like ad my sin becausehe's the saying they weren't supposed to be
on the beach. They were supposedto be married on the beach, but

(01:46:46):
clearly they wasn't. So it wasn'tlike Sinn knew and jagly what was going
on. He was caught off guard. And the thing is is that Hope
is right with when it comes downto sin, and she'll then chose you.
See, he chose you. Butyou gotta remember, Sessey, you
denied him something before he met you. He wanted to know who his biological

(01:47:12):
mama was. And yes, it'sunfortunate that it happens to be the lady
who has given your family for overthirty years misery. It's unfortunate, but
you still kind of took something towork from him. So I'm serious because
to me, Septie, you knowyou're wrong for that because it's the wrong
reverse he would allow you to havethat moment that he's not stupid. He

(01:47:36):
knows what Sheila is capable of He'snot gonna be like open arms over or
you know, stuff like that.He knows what has happened. So when
Stephanie had found out where he wasat, right, she's like, old
because you went to the wedding,you was that let the man explain what
happened before you go ahead and dropdown his throat. And that's what I'm

(01:47:59):
gonna be honest. And I likeStaphie and said, I really do.
But this is why they're gonna beproblem was actually goes to what I said.
This is all Sheela's plans. Sheilahas been wanting to get at sase
she didn't have to do. Yeah, gun Shop will do it obviously,
but the fact that she is drivingaway between you and then and you're going

(01:48:21):
to make the ultimate sacrifice, Staffybecause of what he wants, even though
he's still trying to give you something. But because you can't control the situation,
you're gonna you're gonna bust up withhim. And Sheila's gonna be like,
yeah, yep, jing jing jingjing jinks. All right, tom
Keeping, we really you gotta jumpover the generations? Yeah, we dis

(01:48:46):
okay. First and for a monthsI'm gonna say this right now, Tom
Zinc and Brayden Uh, christ Leablonceand Jay Edy pex yup, Collin and
a Clay's off so well. Sohere's the same as we all know.

(01:49:08):
Vic had Jordan and hisself for awhile. Clay was asking Victor, do
you have something that you're not tellingme? Of course not, I'll be
down. I don't know nothing.So then Cole follows Victor and Dale says
right, and Cole sees Ja andJordana's like, you can't turn on me.
Your mother would be so disappointed inyou know that, right, And

(01:49:30):
Cole's like, I'll be right back. So Cole tells Michael what was going
on? Right, So Michael waslike, are you serious? And Cole's
like, yes, we got todo something. Meanwhile, Victor found out
that Claire doesn't like russels sprout becauseJordan doesn't like ruckels faut. So Victor
actually had to play the box fromBucket Fault and David us Jordan's if there's

(01:49:55):
any clients out there listening to thisshow, I just want to let you
guys know that Brussels felt place offfor the kids to eat that because that's
yuck. It really is delicious.I'm cand just on this when I'm I'm

(01:50:17):
a hard know on the no matterhow they're prepared, Jesus Jordan agrees,
but she was like, now whatthe heck? So then so then Jordan
was like, you're gonna pay forthis? And then is like all the
stuff that you've done to my family, No, you're not. And the
question that was brought up on socialmedia and in our little chest stuff was

(01:50:39):
do we think this year was wrong? Is wrong for doing what he's doing
to Jordan's Personally speaking, this wasa situation, yes, how whatever,
this is nearly no exactly what you'resupposed to be doing because the police cann't
do anything about us. This womanhas knocked out, burns, cool and

(01:51:00):
everything to get out of the system. So Vic didn't even know. It's
only one thing to do, andthat's protect the family, and that's what
he's doing. However it wants todanger. He told Jordan's you can go
to Paris, you can go toYork. I'll fly you out there,
and Coles like, you're doing theright thing. You're doing the right thing.
And so before that, mister Jordan'schurch and Cole and them were like,

(01:51:31):
you're doing the right thing right.Well, Key was right, No,
because you and Michael turned and betrayedme. And I won't forget it.
Cole, It's been nice knowing you. I'll sing it's your special service.
Vinnie and Anthy are gonna be therehere, We're gonna do We're gonna

(01:51:53):
do the four top, We're gonnado some time song in your honor.
Because you know when they just saysyou portrayed him, michaels to know what
that means the Cole. You've beenin the game long enough. And for
those who say, Ohn Cole,this isn't like Cole, for those who
who are near to cold, Iunderstand that. However, for us who's

(01:52:17):
been there for thirty years, thisexactly is cold. Color has always been
Thsie. He's always trying to playboth sides of things. And Jordan was
right your mind not being a littledisappointed because you are choosing certain things.
I'm here for it. Michael isMichael Baldwin. Okay. Now, the

(01:52:39):
other story, the one that's touchingmy heart is the Connor storyline. Yeah,
soon Connor's OCD is getting the backof him to the point where he
is saying he's having these dreams andfeelings that it would be much better if
he wasn't around in Chelsea and Adam'slife. Adam is the stronger current right

(01:53:03):
now, who's had to watch howhe talks to Chelsea because Chelsea is sort
of not there. Chelsea does blameherself for this situation while Connor is really
going down. He's going down areally dark past. He's hurting himself real
quickly. I know we don't havea time. I will say this knowing

(01:53:24):
what Josh Griffin went through with hisdaughter because his daughter has OCD. They
didn't know until she was twenty sixyears old. The fact that this young
child who's been through a lot isgoing through a lot and doesn't know what's
affecting him right now, I willsay this is backball one of the best

(01:53:45):
stories right now on Young and Rustlersand dare I say, you know,
I said John stuff kids, butall four self to write because I'm scared.
I'm worried, and that's the emotionand that's the reactually that it's okay
to have because you don't know thatis going to happen. So I'm gonna
turn it over to Benny. Iknow you're not. I don't know if

(01:54:08):
you're kind of caught up or youknow what's going on, and asked me,
I would love to know what yougot to thinking so far about the
storyline where Vinny is with this.Yeah, first off, they the performances
are stellar, absolutely stellar. Thewriting is great. You said it exactly,

(01:54:29):
exactly right. I'm scared. There'sa pit in my stomach experiencing those
scenes. So they they got me, they got me, They're telling it
right. Okay. I would tweatChelsea a little bit, but you know,
we can't have everything we want.I'm riveted. I am absolutely riveted,

(01:54:55):
and I think I know where thisis going. And while Young and
the rest of the for you doit right, all kay? So we
gotta come home. So then there'sthe asking stuff, all right, girl,
and ask let me tell you again. Alan David just said, Tanna,
puld my hand. I'm pulling youthrough it. But it seems that

(01:55:16):
something major happened in Perry's or I'dlike to call it Peris. So it
looks like are just going to Paris. Somesing's going to Paris. Alan is
saying saying some things but actually inthe office, like the office are saying
you know, yeah, we're protectingyou, and actually wants to know what

(01:55:38):
the heck they're protecting them. Sowe're going to Paris currently, stay Junes.
We'll be back in two weeks withupdates on all of these storylines and
our feelings. I'm possibly in aninterview. This is what I watched for
today Friday. All right, canI never no nobody, Yeah,

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