Episode 200 T2R Soaps in Review #BoldandBeautiful #YR #GH #Days

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at take two Radio. And thankyou for listening by everybody. It's David.
You're feeling host for take to Radiosoaps and review and with me.
Tonight I have Candace and Anthony hellHello, Hello, Hello, Hello.

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And coming in at eight we willhave we will have Angola. So,
folks, if you don't know,I am a member of the American Council
of the Blind and I am partof the leadership team and I am running
for a seat. So I unfortunatelyhave to leave at eight o'clock to attend
a candidate's forum so that they cantell everybody why they shoul vote for me,

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and he should because I'm a goodno no no mote vote Okay,
okay, anyway, we miss Pam, Pam. Hope everything is cool up
in you know, the Chicago suburbsand the weather isn't taking me down too
much, all right, Canda,my girl. Hey, we we uh

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you know we we we we wewe talked a little bit about what we
thought, We made some predictions,We had some fun this year overall.
What do you think of the Emmys pat So we did so. I
do remember we did talk about thisbecause you wasn't here, But I'm gonna
do it for I. You knowwhat, I'm gonna say this. I'm

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glad that it was on television yetagain. Yep, I will say that.
I think I said this when wetalked about the last I'm glad everybody
showed up yeap, Like everybody likehe shout out to you, Kelly Clarkson,
Hey girl, shout out to you. Joshua Morrow with the coronist,
all know what shout up to like, I think the majority of all the

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casts of the show showed up likeit was it was actually when they did
the Errold Doe of the ballroom,it was actually filled like it was still
and it felt like, you knowwhat, it felt like, I'm gonna
take y'all back, take y'all back. Remember it was at the Marriott Marquee

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balling room they swore in New YorkCity, where you know, they had
like the afternoon remember the day timeyou came on during the afternoon and everything.
That's what it reminded me of.It reminded me of where Tim Zimmers
threw her heels and the chandeliers andwhen Michael Zas wrote out on stage like
before they went to radio pretty musichalls. That's what it was giving me,

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and I appreciate that because, okay, no offense. The other show
that was nominated, Congratulations Saw theWater, So we're doing it was watching
it for the soaps, okay,so we wanted to stay and hard people
was there. You know, it'slike our cast was there, United US
one because they did daytime is No. It is not like any other daughter

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out pat especials the soap except forthe cookie segment. You know, I
am gonna see that. I thinkthat, you know, maybe next year
to to you know, we lookedat the ratings. They weren't as great
as we would have liked. Themto be. They weren't. They weren't

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horrible though, so that's a goodthing. But they get a Raiders book
though out the last couple of years, so they got they got a book,
but not as big of the compasswe were hoping for. And so
my suggestion is next year, havea couple of the awards, the non

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Soul related awards, have soap actorsand actresses come out in character from different
shows, like you know, rememberthe old Twists on ABC where you know
Ryan McCauley, you know, subsequentlythe whole Drew Cally things all right in
the chemistry sometimes works in then itdoesn't work. It's later, But that's
a that's a whole nother story fora whole another blog. But you know,

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have have you know, have VictorNewman come out with oh oh oh
oh have come out? Which hashim come out, which Racey Quornamine in
character to get out the best talkshow, you know what I mean?
Like they can add just a littlemore And if you don't like that idea,

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that's cool, but it needs alittle bit more of the awards show
glam. I mean, when Ilooked at the Tony Awards versus versus the
you know, now again they havemusical performances and things, but who's sus
stated? We can't live in thisup a little bit and make this much
wak Okay. I know it's onCBS, but much watch must watch TV.

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You know we could borrow this takelinefrom NBC for just one night.
All right, girl, you gotyour listeners? Can we talk about the
winners? Oh yeah, let's donereal quick. A little bit, yeah,
because I do want to say becausewe didn't have Anthony on here,
so it was kind of like Iwas waiting, so okay, so I'm

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just gonna go down and you know, like we did so with supporting actor.
We had Robert Goslin. I wasgonna say junior, but he's not
a junior. His second win,second win, Anthony, how did you
feel about that from the scenes thatwere cemented? You know, we have

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to remember as an audience, itis not on the year body of work.
It is on the scenes that aresubmitted. I mean, the man
is a good actor, so youknow, the scenes were good. I
was hoping for someone else, butbut you know, I'm not a senator.

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Let's put it that way. David, what did I say, last
time keen this, I was yeah, I mean I don't think I had
anyone in mind, right, Iwill say this, I did say between

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while you and Briton names. AndI'm not taking away from Robert because I
did have to sit down and thinkabout some things. He is one of
those he he does bring a lotto the table, especially the two scenes
that was presented, and I wasproblem with it. Now let's go to
supporting access because this one, Ithink everybody said, literally everybody across the

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board said, this person's name,courty Old. She took it. I
mean from what I saw, ifthat's what she offered, I I mean
she put me in tears. Ithought that was wonderful. I had to
go back and think about it,and that's oh my god, Candice.

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To me, this was one ofthe two categories that were nail biting,
you know what I mean In away, yes, the first time is
also, but in a way theyall deserved it. They really did this.
This was one that was hard tovote on based upon the scenes that
was submitted, the reels. Thisone was hard to vote on. But

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a Courtney girl, you know,I love you, Sally, all right,
I'm just gonna say this. Idid appreciate the fact that both the
beautiful also cheered for her to alsowhat okay, can you guess him yes

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or something? Well, I said, I was glad that, you know,
uh, the bonde and beautiful fansI mean cast also stood up for
her too. Yeah, yes,so that was that. Okay. So
I'm so I did this one oour previous show. But Anthony, I
want to I'm gonna do the uhacting and then you know what I'm gonna

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do next after this? So okay, So for late after in a drama
series, he can now say hehas two Emmys source and K I'm not
man at this one, you know. And for me, this was the

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other character. This was the othercharacters category where they all deserved it,
you know, all of the time. I'm sorry, let me rephrase that,
every single category they all deserved it. You know, when they say
it's an honor to be nominated,I hope they really do mean it because
to get to you know, toget to that spot, to be one
of five, you know. ButI mean, the man has been bringing

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it and the scenes were day withAuston Man, David Austin, what about
you David. I was. Iwas on the other side. I was.
I thought it was John was goingto get us. Hmm. I
thought between Eric Braden and John thecup and I'm not saying and he's to

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saying. I'm gonna be honest.I was questioning if they were going to
do and and when I say theperson's name, it's not taking I'm not
taking away anything that he did thatthat year and everybody I did him going
to get to Eric Massall because youhad four he said, you had you

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know, guy John Thorsten, EricBraden, Right, you had four cbss
versus a peacock person. So ninetimes understand you usually wanted to stack like
that. They usually will go tothe left and give it to that person.
So when they shot for Candace,you know what happened. Think about

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it for a second. Sick andSick canceled out Sick for Eric and yeah
they they not Eric, John andEric Braeden. Yeah, they kind of
canceled each other out because the sceneswere so similar. They were on that

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level. I will say, EricMarshoff, the scenes were amazing. But
if you watch them and then youwatched Dauston Kay, you know, m
hmmm. All right. Yeah,were you surprised with actress Candice I love

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you, you know there, soMichelle Safer one, I don't want to
say yes, I was a littlesurprised, but again, I'm just like
with sleep actor, I had tothink about this. You had two boths
and beautiful and two ghos, rightyep, and they cancel right to me.

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And I will say that I reallythought that Anne, God know what
we was gonna get it, tobe honest, because to me, her
will was solid and did tell usa story about the evolution of hope.
I can't say nothing bad about PamilaWhos because my god, she's a boss.
She is a boss, she isthe queen. Then I gotta say,

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except your freaking watch you And thenCaptain Callan Lane. Here's my thing.
I'm gonna say this right now.It's an end game, says Day
One to me. I just foolBrad. We're gonna have to talk because
I do want her to get heranything. Yeah, and because I see

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it. I see it because itlooks like with Melanie Thomas got There's been
times where I'm like, girls shouldhave got something, but forget I'm bless.
He was nominated, but I'm likeI said, Michelle said she did.
Okay, all right, I gota couple of things to say.
So first and foremost, you know, the body of work. Michelle and

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Finola were the two that were.You know, they have been, they
will always be. I thought.For Nola's response on social media to Michelle
was so classy, so amazing.Having said that, I honestly thought it
was going to onaga this year.I really really did. I'm not gonna

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say that Michelle doesn't deserve it,you know, Like I said two minutes
ago, I think in all ofthese categories, they all deserve to be
there, and no matter who wonin each category, some people would have
had good things to say, somepeople would have had bad things to say.
Me personally, I honestly thought thiswas Anica's year. You know,
it could have said something to thefuture of soaps, to recognize that the

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supporting moving into lead, et cetera, et cetera. But you know,
Michelle had some power. You knowthe scene. I gotta say, whoever
helps all of these folks pick outtheir their their reels this year? You
were all on point. You allknew exactly what the man all right,

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we got something going on this.No, Candace, I didn't know Canda
went out there. I got dropped. It was a it was a dramatic
moment just now I got dropped.It was like, oh my god,
they dropped your micro without without evena forever and a j shout, Oh
my god, that I don't know. Real quick, here's the thing about

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Michelle Ta. When I saw thatreal it kind of made me feel a
certain type of way that Susan Watterswasn't nominated. Yeah, I'll give you
that too. I'll give you thattoo. I do want to say this
about Katherine Kelly real quick. Holdon, guys, I gotta go off.
All right, I'm gonna say thisabout Katherin Kelly because I agree with

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you one hundred and ten percent.But it's time for them. It's time
for them to give her the middlelife. You know, not quite I'm
going so crazy thing, but giveher a hard menopause, give her something
mid life, to show us thetransition from you know, I know I'm

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no longer the Anjannu. I knowI've got to take my rifle place as
the maintriarch care. They've given ussnippets of it over the last couple of
years. But you know it's ifyou want, you know, if you
want Kelly Patrine Kelly to you know, to really shine, put her in

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something that doesn't have to do withmanna or you know, is tangially involved
with men. Give her her own. I gotta look back at my life.
I gotta make you know the determinationsin my own head about the mistakes
I made as a parent, themistakes I made in love, and what
kind of woman I want to begoing forward. And I guarantee you sugar

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her name next year. I'm thinkinglike when I think of brook right,
Okay, there are times that Isee the river Shaye Lewis and her right,
Yeah, it looks like with ReaverShane Rivershane evolved. However, when
I think about Brooke in this currentsituation, with this current storyline of her
being the co CEO, I'm thinkingRiica Kane, Like when ever Kane,

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you know, look back over herlife, and that's what I thought we
were doing. When we look backover you know, her love of her
life, which is next. Iwas, okay, this should be the
quote unquote. I have loved somany men. I have more than one
destiny obviously, but now what herdaughter kind of Emily, you know,

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like some of the traits that Hopeis doing, is you boot. I'm
gonna of the mistakes and the mistakeslash decision slash positive choices that we all
made as that generation is now beingrevisited upon our children and have to come
to terms with that. Ryes soso okay, So that's what that So

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congratulations Michelle Stafford, you and LindsayGoffrey looked at hot those red dresses because
that could have been a word.There could have been a weird situation,
but but we all handled like trueprose that you are. I am okay,
Anthony, get riding your car,Yes, Carl. For Best Writing,

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put put product, and for BestShow. The streak is over for
best writing because it's been fifteen years, but the back to back champions,
just like the La Lakers once upona time. General Hospital wants for Best
Outstanding Drama Series, and there wascontroversy with that. Anthony, I want

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to know your pick, your takeawaywith this? How did you feel about
it? And then I have anotherquestion for you after this and your two
David, because I had to thinkabout this all right, So you know,
as those that listen to us ona weekly, you know, on
a bi weekly basis, understand thatI have been watching the show since I'm
three years old. My grandmother's hadI wasn't pulling to gas and share.

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I will say that I think thatthey have consistently given drama. Sometimes good
drama. Sometimes I don't know whatthey're trying to do, Mama, Sometimes
N go drama, but they haveconsistently given drama. They've consistently stayed soapy
throughout this year, you know,throughout trying to balance some of the damage

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that was done pandemic, post pandemic, cycling through, et cetera, et
cetera. I think that they atleast consistently gave us drama. I wasn't
pulling for gates this year, soDavid go, so then Kandae can give
us next our next question. Ohjeez. I was happy for them,

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although you know, everything with thepacing was a problem. But I don't
think I think not the others.I thought Days was given a little more.

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I didn't deserve deserved it, butI don't know. I'm ump in
the air. I mean, it'snice, okay, Stevie. Then I'm
gonna jump on your fand way becauseI wasn't going to name the show,
but I thought this was daysier Candice, give us your thoughts on what we
said. And then the second question. Okay, so I said this in

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real time. I said, Ithought it was going to go to bowl
until I found out what they submitted, and then I said, Young and
the Rockers will get it. Thereason I didn't say days and days everybody,
days don't be met at me.I was thinking the reason that they
probably wasn't going to get it isbecause of the behind the scenes stuff.
That right, because that's why assomebody else wasn't in the lead actress category.

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So with General Hospital, okay,look we know that they used the
epiphany stuff. Okay, and forSeth to Gone they used Trina and Censor
in New York. Yeah, here'sthe thing I said. I didn't like
the fact, like you could usedifferent episodes through you know, the different

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you know nominations like Best Writing.Short it definitely didn't deserve Best Writing,
but you kind of use that asthe whole summary of your year because it
was an ensemble. Now I willsay this, I'm gonna take something back
that I said I have to alsounderstand that this was obviously a real life
situation. So ye, Eddie,we miss you every single day, and

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I have to give credit to thecast for holding it together. But I
still want to say this to me. You could have used it, but
not use it all through the maincategories. Does that make sense? Because
its to make me And like Isaid, I mean, this is not
a digory thing. You have awhole year's worth of material. I've already

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said this, I said. Youguys probably heard me. I said the
Jackie Zemon tributes vib should be thebest that I saw all year, and
remember the start. But I haveto question it, you know, sometimes
I have to question this back toyou, Candice for a second. Don't
you think that's for the Outstanding Dramacategory and maybe even for the Writing tireategory

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as well. They should be allowedto submit up to six hours, whether
they want to do six episodes ora combination of a bunch of scenes from
twenty episodes. They should be ableto give a smattering of the whole year
of what they did. There shouldbe some sort of submission parameters around it.
I'm not in the the two insteadof the two episodes instead of the

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two episodes. It's very hard tojudge, you know, the best drama
two hours sorry, two hours worthof material. Yeah, well, I
mean that's another show for another daywhere we want to talk about that.
So this is my question to youguys. So for best writing, it

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has been fifteen years since General Hospitalone because remember years years before it was
and we saw Dan O'Connor, whois now at Days of Our Lives come
up there and kind of has hismoment I'm saying it just like that.
Do you think he was I mean, this is prob Do you think he

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was throwing shade at the current situation? Yea, he was doing so for
those who don't understand, what aboutwhat I was gonna say? And do
you think he was throwing shade atthe current situation of the situation of If
y'all haven't been paying attention, therating for General Hospital has had a new
another all time low. But whenDanny Chris was there and by the way,

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Chris did come to the after partyand he is over there at General
Hospital right now as a breakdown writer. But Dan kind of said that brought
in our episode brought in more thantwo million viewers, and because it was
David River for those who don't knowDavid Rivers, he's one of the writers
and directors, one of the writersand stars. And also that was Elizabeth

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Court that was up there. Sothen how did you feel about that,
little shay and are you and yeah, okay, So you know, in
these moments we I think, soI'm going to get a little philosophical for

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a moment. I think the worldis being reflected in our award shows.
I mean it always kind of hasbeen, especially things like the Grammys and
the Golden Global Awards, where peoplewere known for throwing political speeches and such
and such. But taking the politicaland the way the world is aside,

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it shows the lack of how thelack of respect and responsibility. Look,
every show got to put in theirtwo hours and everybody that is, you
know, a part of that votingblock got to make their decisions. So
there was no need for that.There was no need for that. We

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only got four left and if GeneralHospital goes down, CBS watch you know,
Peacock is already you know, there'snothing left on NBC. If General
Hospital goes down, watch out,because the soaps are going to go it
just was not classy. It wasnot nice. You know, it was

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not it was not necessary. Andyou know, you look at the awards
shows from the sixty fifties, sixtiesseventies, even the eighties. You know
those things, it was revered.You were there to honor the work,
the work that was done by everyone. Now and when you listen to some
of those speeches from the sixties,seventies, eighties, you know they talk

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about the grips, the lighting,person craft services, make up. You
know, they wanted to always makesure that everybody that worked on these shows
were highlighted. You know, wheredid that go? Where did the spirit
of what it takes to put thisshow on? Where did that go?
This was not it was not cool. I was not happy with it at

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all, dating it and shape No, uh, I'm sorry, I'm a
little bit out of a statement.No. I thought maybe he should have
held back a little bit. Imean, shape wasn't needed at a in

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an event like that. I willbe honest with yob when not on Dan
go up there. I had oneperson in my head, y'all can go
on YouTube right now, take alook at it, Bridget Dobson. Because
when day like y'all was there whenbridget Okay, please tell me what you're

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talking about, because month semester.Okay, So do you remember years ago
back into the nineties, right,remember Santa Barbara? You remember that?
So I do I do with somenews about Santa Barbara that can be broken?
Yeah? Okay, okay. Soremember the year that there was a
lawsuit with NBC and Bridging and Jeromeand and everything, and Jill was the

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second producer. And there's the sameas speech when when Santa Barbara won,
you had Jill Phelps going up there, but Bridge came up there real quick
and took the war. And shemade the statement she was like, NBC
out, but they're not y'all lotsout of the day time at me,
yup, yup, y'all sort oflike she was shading about what was going

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on behind the scenes. And youcan take a look at Joe Phelpson back
and was giving me that cause Iwas like, well, Dan, because
I didn't want him Dan, andChris was gonna show up right, And
then to say, I think itwas the same day that's when we got
the announcement about Dan going over toDay's. So the fact that he did
that. But when he kind ofshaded, I was like, Dan,
that's not a good look for youto do that, because you're gonna now

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say under your belt or your youknow tender. You brought in a certain
amount of viewers. Okay, you'regoing over to days or lives. So
if you don't pull your weight,can something just tightly say you get like
go, Can somebody say, youknow call number the words? Well better?

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And I seize a right, welldone and you got more nominations.
It's not it's not childish, andI'll work with children's you know my kids
won't even do that. But Ijust thought that was just one of the
highlights of the night. Now realquick, because I know we got to
talk about So here we do SantaBarbara first, foremost in August August second,
and Burn Bay, California is hostingthe fortieth anniversary re union. Many

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of your favorite stars are going tobe there. But that wasn't the big
story, Anthony was, Joe,would you like to tell the kiddies that's
home what happened? What happened tothe Santa Barbara universe? That rocked the
shook that that made even David saynLuja, what what happened? Anthony?
What happened? Oh girl? We'regoing to be able to access episodes of

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Santa Barbara in a digital streaming platform. Take it away, candifs So anyway,
where did website Big Harbor? Sorry? I had to do it.
Remember the god? Oh so foryou palpitating? Okay, So for years

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Santa Barbara has Santa Barbara. Fanshas been asking why hasn't been on streaming,
especially since Pea Cock came out.But if you really go there,
Santa Barbara is actually owned by Disney. There's your homework, folks, But
this is happening. There was alot of things that was preventing Santa Barbara
to not be put on I Live, Money estates and music rights. Last

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week on Michael Fairman's interview with JeromeDoctor, I'm sorry the Gold honoreed Jerome
Doctor. Here you got and AMartinez, another Gold person. They were
talking and approatly. They've been doingsome stuff behind the scenes that we didn't
know where there's something rights to thing. They're getting getting all the situations together
for it two. Maybe by theend of the year, Fingers Crossed be

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on streaming platform. Let me conjestright there because I have some further information.
So the biggest piece in this thatis called that is the biggest stumbling
block, is music rights. Andso somebody I cannot mention who, But
in two weeks when we come back, I'm pretty sure I will be able

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to mention that somebody has stepped forward, and it's somebody we all know from
the soft world to say that thereis a way that this can be edited
and we can go around the musiccues with something that's called audio description.

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And with the audio description its usefor the blind and Lovision community by the
way, But with the audio description, instead of having the music, they
will blank out and give you adescription of what's happening on this, you
know, on the scene in verbaltime. It's generic what they call uh

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royalty free music. So they willtry to match music that works well for
the scene and give you, likethe montage or whatever it happens to be
that's going on on screen. They'llgive you a voiceover, basically speaking and
maybe pointing at or poking at thingsthat you should pay attention to that will
be important coming up later. Andthat's how they'll get around those music royalty

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rights and oh my god, whata great idea. This will make it
perfectly ready for it to be uploadedand bring it as all of our devices
at our leisure and our convenience.I had to do it. All right,
we do get this, and wedo need to go and talk about
the So we us want to saythat it was confirmed from ABE say that

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in August, Brian Craig is goingto reprise his role as Morgan. Correctos.
Here's the thing. Y'all see thepictures, y'all know, y'all know,
But I'm gonna tell you this rightnow. That's not the big name.
That's not the big name. That'snot the big name name. M
hmm. And it's only one episodeallegedly. Yeah, Hi, Anthony,

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how you doing? So? Maybethat's so? That's not who drank is
referring to them. It's not.It's not of Candace. You're sitting on
the same thing. I am marn'tayeah, I am. Yeah. Folks,
you know, we want to giveyou what we got and we always

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you know, I can't. ObviouslyCandace Canny up two weeks, we probably
will be able to. I'm gonnasay this, honestly, I'd love to
see him on screen. But whenGeneral Hospital has done this before, they
don't do it well. I lovemy show. You will know this.

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Please know this, Please know this, But they don't do this well.
When they get somebody for a dayor a couple of days, they don't.
They wasted. I'm sorry, Igotta go back to They wasted my
girl, my Cassie to Paibo.They wasted her, wasted. You know,

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I almost feel like they wasted JacksonMontgomery, you know, wasted.
Give it, no want more thatcould have been done. So please Frank,
please however this please out give ussomething that is that is mania mento
manya mess, I would say,both of you. Then is this person

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coming on contract? Mm? Iwill say this. Let me, let
me get myself together here real quick. General Hospital is going dark in July.
The four months I will say this. Is that for four months July

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because vone bes taking off the weektoo. This is typical, typical,
typical. I will say this.I do know that this person may want
to not have a full term contract. Will it depends on the situation of

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the situation. I will say this. So Jeneral Hospital, what up?
The PR department? Don't say nothing? Until it happens. I'm gonna need
the thing. I'm gonna be honest. If y'all think, okay this,
I'm gonna say this. When frteensthis and you had an exact moment,

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it was really like it was strategizeto me if it was Brian Craig to
be the big surprise and all thattrust to believe they wouldn't have spoiled it
like that trust that there are thirdthings in General Hospital will do. But
this is something that they were noth no, no, and no,

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okay, canon, I'm gonna saythis, and I'm gonna say this to
our audience. This is not relatedto the conversation we're having at the moment.
Maybe most likely, but i'm gonnasay this. Okay, we just
found out that now they are backin talks with Pine Valley. They are

(36:43):
relooking at the prime time reboot ofAll My Children called Pine Valley. So
General Hospital, and I'm gonna saytwo things about this. First, I'm
gonna speak in general. Then i'mgonna speak the General Hospital stands specifically in
general. This is a good thing. This is a very good thing.

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We need this, a primetime rebootof a classic American soap opera can be
nothing but good things, even ifit gets canceled after thirteen episodes. I
don't want that to happen. AndI'm praying whatever, whatever, whatever,
General Hospital, you will have amazingtie ins. You will have the ability

(37:31):
you wasted Chondra Wilson. Oh mygod, what you could have done with
both? Girl. Okay, doyou have an opportunity coming up? Please
please please understand the opportunity you haveand work with it. As far as

(37:52):
the question you asked, David,it will not be contract at first.
But that's what they said about thesofa as well. By the way,
Frank, Frank's my friend. Doyou see all the press about reading sofa?
Do you see all the kind ofdo you see everybody talking? Do
you see the chemistry that damn rightin front of your face? And where

(38:13):
you can go with? You knowthis? Okay, can just go take
me away? You why? Okay? So I'm gonna say this and we
do well. I mean, Iguess you can stay with General Hospital.
It's the first talk. But Iwill say we need you use Frank ABC
Varnie and I know Frank, lookreal quick, I know that Varnie and

(38:37):
ABC has you know, do rightwith this and good things will happen?
Has tag bring back Taggard? Okay, so on Joe Hospital. The big
story, the big story that everybody'stalking about. Well, I will say
this, it's a story that's gettinga lot of attention in the in a

(38:58):
positive way. And no, I'mnot talking about that storyline. I'm talking
about the Sinn storyline. Oh mygod, let me get myself and got
it. So first of time,I said, I said this the real
time, an't you No, Ilook, I'm gonna tell you this right
now. So I think the lasttime we was here, you know,

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we had Sinn. You know,of course Dad died, Finn started drinking.
Then there was barbed, you know, barbed like Jake was in a
bar. He said, Fin.Then you know, Liz walked in and
saw barbed and Fenn drinking. Getit, get it on. Then Sinn
and Liz had a fallen out.Jason was there. Then you know,

(39:40):
Finn has just been going down avery dark path where he's alienating not only
himself from his work because he quithim and Elizabeth they're over. But then
women chased and then he passed outand Violet Saw. Let me just say
this right now general, because there'sbeen five writing transition so far with the

(40:04):
show, right, okay, thinkabout that. This is one of the
organic storylines. Shout out to Nodule, Stacy, Patrick, Elizabeth. They
have taken their time with it.I mean yeah, there's you know,
questioning about the time and all thatstuff for stuff. To me, this
is by far the best storyline onthe show. And also for those who

(40:25):
those who never said this, I'mgonna help you out. Michael Easton can
act okay when you're getting him theright and he plays dark very well.
This is too real to the pointwhere I'm gonna say this when they are
dressed, because everybody was saying hisdrug, his choice of substance was drugs,

(40:50):
right, we all know that.But when they right, when they
had that scene with a lessons talkingabout why he's drinking. And then the
fact is again, if you knowsomebody at home or you are yourself won
or recover one. First of all, as you know how this trigger will
set you off. It could beyou getting demoted at your job, it

(41:13):
could be a death of a familymatter, and this situation remember then and
his father kind of wasn't on thesame page, especially when he found out
that his father left pretty much everythingto take. So you know, you
just got him throwly out of control. But I will wait that the scary
part was violent seeing him and violentgetting prepared to take that, because that's

(41:39):
the trauma for kids. Like Isaid, a far girl, girl,
let's break in. Let me breakin. I think you got more and
I'll let you finish it, butlet me break in first second. Because
here's the thing that General Hospital isdoing, you being the General Hospital team
pushing into Elizabeth aka Rebecca Hurst,adversary storylines and what we should have seen

(42:06):
from everything coming out with Raco andall. I mean, there was barely
any reaction that she had an affairwith Jastics center what we should have seen
coming out of thing from there.They are now correcting with this storyline.
We aska two radios so have beenscreaming this for six seven years now.

(42:28):
They have never given Michael the materialthat he is capable of doing. I
mean, they played around with ita little bit with silence and Stephen and
all that kind of stuff, andit was fun to watch and all that,
but like handas just said, whenhe's dark it's amazing. So they're
making up the lost time in this. Having said that, I also want

(42:51):
to say, you know, thedifference between General Hospital and other soap operas.
When they do the ps, theyou know, real life storyline,
General General Hospital always hits the rightbeams. When I think about Mike,
when I think about the hookers inthe eighties, when I think about those

(43:12):
social Robin and Stone, Robin Stone, Robin Jason, Oh my god,
you know, Robin coming to termswhat she had. When they do the
social justice slash, you know,social what's going on in the world storylines,
they really General Hospital really is thetop soap for those storylines. They're
finally giving Michael stuff that is worthyof him playing. Yes, I'm I'm

(43:38):
a Liz I'm a Liz Finn fan, but I'm okay with everything that's playing
out, especially Oh my god,thank you, thank you, thank you,
General Hospital. Thank you, thankyou. I feel like I'm on
a podium and I'm giving a speech. Thank you, thank you, thank
you forgiving Jane Elliott aka Tracy goof me the evolution of a real character.

(44:02):
I love Laura Collins, I doWill I had the only crush on
Jeanie. I think now I'm gay, but I'm the only I wanted to
marry her. I love her.I hated when they made her cucko crazy
and put her in a coma.But she's not one hundred percent fully fleshed
out as who she was then andwho she is now. I love who

(44:27):
she's now when I'm fine with it. Suspension to disbelief. It's so proper
for Tracy. They have they haveevolved her exactly. She is Edward Cordamin's
Zorda and always will be. Butthere's some Lilah up in there, and
oh my god, oh my god, because it is her friend. But

(44:47):
what's right is right and gay andGregory, oh my god, that piece
is the most right you have donein years. The wedding all of a
suff Oh my god, you havewritten treat thank you, pay her whatever,
beg her, pay her. Pleasedon't ever let her go. I'm

(45:09):
sorry, Candas, I just hadto jump in and say that it's okay.
I want to jump on your jumpon for a little bit and remind
you guys that Michael was up foran Emmy the last time when he was

(45:30):
getting on his dependency story with aDechnesterol. Yeah, yeah, but the
story but that was the storyline,guy. You know they threw everything at
the wall with that storyline and finallyjust said, Okay, we're gonna pick
this strand a spaghetti and we're gonnago with it. Because they really didn't

(45:53):
know what to do with it backthen. They did with the hospital,
but you have you were screwed withthe thing character from the beginning, and
you never knew what to do withhim, right. And I will say
this, it's like, okay,I wanna be okay, I'll speak real
quick about it. I think theproblem is that you you did misuse spin

(46:15):
in a lot of situations now,like when he was with Anna and he
found out about Peter. Okay,when we went through the Peter saga,
like you could have made him alittle villain on the side, but you
didn't. The biggest thing that youdid that General Hospital fans will not forgive
DH four if you made him thereason why Elizabeth Webber's parents has been gone

(46:37):
for twenty something years, sink.But then you back paddled a little bit
and you gave him some breathing rum, especially when it came down to his
father and yes, General Hospital.I was one of the people that said,
okay, gh I love Michael,I love Gregory Harrison, who y'all

(46:59):
an misuse, but this is hisSonny and Mike stop it. However,
yes, but about this though,they also set it up for a couple
of months coming onto this, theymade Finn the father of the year.
He was abducted. He was tryingto get laid, you know, he
was trying to play the wedding.He was worried about Gregory. He was

(47:21):
still on because we don't see thebabies on the screen. We don't see
the babies on stream. Just now, though I totally forgot something you just
now put an ad on to whyhe self destruct. It was too much
pressure on him to be that guylike he was not only not only he
was a doctor, but also hewas a father figure. Listen how I'm

(47:46):
saying this to Elizabeth Boys. Yes, when it became his brother Chase,
and but also at the same time, him and his father had a real
interesting relationship because once upon a timewe thought that Finn was might then chase
his daddy. So then you havethe fact that he's raising Violet on his

(48:07):
own. Because Hayden seems to stillbe out the country because she said Nicholas
is around. That's another story foranother day. But now you really do
have because of the trauma, thefact that your father and you had an
argument, the fact that your brotheris actually living his best life, the
fact that the girl of your dreamy'all don't know really where y'all stand at,

(48:28):
but she's still there with you.The fact that you know, like
it's going on and whatnot, thatyou're sprowing out of control. I was
saying that with Jane Elliott when Tracycame in and took pictures. I was
like, and she reporter man's kidsstuff. That's all that because again everybody

(48:49):
like Alexis, Alexis says, well, at least you're not lying. But
this storyline, I mean, ithits every single beat. So Joe the
hospital, my job with this one. Now one see the other storyline that's
made it waves. Have a questionWait a minute, yeah, got David.
I had a I'm trying to figureout because remember, Kenneth, you

(49:14):
mentioned in the last episode, andI agreed with you that it may be
a little rushed. So the reasoningfor his downfall going so fast seems to
I don't know, David, letme stop you right that. Let me

(49:35):
let me stop you right there.In life with substances, I'm just going
to say, substances, it's neverthe major event. It's the culmination of
a bunch of little events. Whenyou dissect the storyline afterwards in real life
of what happened to someone, it'snever the major event that pushes them over

(50:00):
the edge. It's the culmination ofI can't take no more. They really
are hating the beats. I havea lot of addiction in my family,
and I've struggled with my whole life. I've never wanted to be that side
of my family. It's it's it'snever the you know, the spouse dies,

(50:20):
the child dies, that that's thethe the the major trigger that you
look at, But it's all thelittle triggers that come along that brought you
to that place that when this happened, you had nothing left to cope with.
Can just tell me, tell meif you see it differently. I

(50:42):
see, well, you know Isaid earlier about you had put an ad
on to something. It's the factthat I have to sit back and I
have to think about it like yeahagain, Sometimes it is in a trauma,
but sometimes it is. Sometimes itcould be up. Because he made
a comment saying something happened at work, and I'm like, what's happened at
work? But then when you saidhim being the perfect person, the perfect

(51:05):
doctor, I'm like, y'all waita second. Because also it made sense
now that you said it. Itreally makes me rethink about the scene when
he told Elizabeth, where have youbeen? Where have you been? I've
been dealing with this all this time, And because again when he said it,
I'm thinking, what that happened?But when you just said, just

(51:25):
now, ask me about the wholetime. He's been trying to be the
perfect doctor. He's been trying tobe the perfect boyfriend. He's been trying
to help the boys all to havethat father's figure. He's been trying to
be a good father to his SwaorterVolet. He's been trying to be his
you know, his brother's brother brother. He's trying to be you know,
good son to his father and tryto fix a broken relationship. I did
not even think about all of that, And hell, you just said that,

(51:49):
so yes, I'm going to saythis or something. You did do
it right. And also again youcould have tied in it with Tagrid because
Tegan's still probably over there drunk towhet. Okay, girl, if you
want a highlight or know the story, and I think I know what you're
going, go ahead, girl.So this week in a very special journal
hospital, you know, talking myvoice so strange, we found out the

(52:14):
reason that Jason has been gone fortwo years and a half. Well,
actually Sam and Finelli did. Ohyes, oh yes, so we so
Sam and s Finelli got evidence thatit was all about Carla ABC, all
about carl and that's why Jason wasaway. Now there's still some things that

(52:35):
isn't being said. However, Samcould prot Carly and said all the stuff
you know, said she needed tosay. At the same time, prior
to this, Sam, like Carly, helped for Tea to tell to have
Danny and Jason not really have arelationship because Sam is just you know,
like Danny deserves veteran dah dah dahda dah. Let me just say this

(53:00):
request, I like Carly I did. However, me being a Carly fan,
I can only we say this,Jeno Hospital, you messed up.
You messed up, because if you'regonna tell me for two and a half
years. And I know the friendshipof Jarley. I know all that.

(53:20):
But you're gonna tell me that Jason, who has two kids two right,
yeah, and them like you havetwo kids, Michael was a different breed.
Michael was a different breed. FlBut you mean to tell me that
while Jake and Danny were crying,you was going over there to protect Carly.

(53:44):
Again, let me say this,The problem is that you had a
perfect opportunity of having this character evolved. Yes, you gave us a shock
that he worked for the FBI.You could have said everything under the moon,
But this we the opinion of theirrelationship, of their friendship that you

(54:07):
literally have made the last warm.Next week will be four months since Jason's
return. We made it all connected, Carly. And I'm gonna say now
General Hospital, Hi, Dan,Chris, Elizabeth, Patrick, Elizabeth,
whoever after it afterwards, I'm sayingthis from the bottom of my heart.

(54:30):
And let you see Berry know thisthat this storyline is at the field the
return of day. Can let mestep in here for a minute, do
you mind stop for the kids.Let me just say that the kid's been
great. Let me step in here. So I got a couple of things
to say. We all know atthis point that the original storyline that was
pitched was that he was going tocome back, Jason Cortermain. Y'all should

(54:51):
have stuck with that, y'all right, should have stuck with that, y'all
would have been such good story.Okay, y'all didn't stick with that.
Okay, as Can has just said, he's been back for four months,
y'all needed to get Collie in andJason into the sheets, into the bed
about three weeks a month of themost into the storyline. We don't care

(55:13):
anymore. It doesn't make sense tous. We're not here. It is
not computing because here's the thing.You want us to see him with his
kids, and we do, andwe see the connection that you want us
to see with his kids. Butdon't make no kind of sense if you're
doing this and it's all been donefor Callie and you ain't even in bed

(55:34):
with her at this point. Ifyou did all this for Callie, you
don't trust her enough to bring herinto this. You know Callie is you
know dandas please give me this,give me this one piece. You know
that if if Jason sat Callie downand said this, this, this,
this, this, and this iswhere I'm at. Girlfriends, all in

(55:58):
this storyline is dragging out way toolong. It doesn't make a hunch,
It doesn't make sense for all ofus watching. We we we are loving
the fact that his kids are holdinghim to the responsibility of who he is
and has been and will be andwasn't and wasn't and wasn't and wasn't That

(56:20):
has to be said three times asa father. But all the rest of
it doesn't connect. You know,you know you've built a great thing around
Sonny. I'm not I'm actually notmad at you for the sunny storyline right
now. I'm mad at you fornot connecting all of the dots that have
always been there. And you knowwho pointed it out about a month and

(56:44):
a half ago, Lois Low.Yes, no, ye. And so
at this point, like the lastyou return of Jason member girl member,
we had Drew who was Jason,who wasn't Jameson? Oh my god,
that's another thing real quick. I'mgonna say this too. My whole thing

(57:05):
is is that, Okay, weknow General Hospital, how you doing.
We know it's the Holy Trinity,It's been the Holy Trinity for like a
while, Sonny, Carly and Jason. It's been years. It's about twenty
years. It's been over twenty years. Hence the saying, what I will
say about this is somehow somewhere youactually did it. You actually did take
Sonny out of that. Okay.But what's megative, especially some of the

(57:29):
words that have been given is Okay, we all know that, like what
Sam was saying, what's true becausethe thing is is that you got just
like again we talked about Finn.You gotta think about when Jason and Sam
was together, right, Jason hada lot you know, was aligned with

(57:51):
Carly and Sonny every time they werelike people come running and it kind of
put their relationship at Jeff, Okay, go ahead, because I'm gonna I'm
gonna read right. Then it's liketimes where again we gotta remember Sam,
you want that in a sense either, Okay, But it's like it is

(58:13):
kind of an interesting thing now becausenow that we know that Jason did what
he did for Carly, and ify'all saw today's episode, that was like,
well, you know he didn't wanthis you know, Carly is a
mother to Donna. Jason, whatare you what are you? You have
two boys, one who doesn't knowyou that well and the other one,

(58:35):
Okay you The answer to that canvasis he is the father that stepped up
to take care of Michael. Iknow what you think, and I'm writing
with you on the concept different.I put Mike go on a different level.
But because but you kind of cantand all that was Michael. But
see, this is what I wassaying about Michael. We gotta go back

(58:58):
to the history. That is Jason'sboy. That's Jas's boy, right.
So it's like, again, ifhe was to do this for Michael,
if he was to do this forDanny or for a Jake, right then
yeah, okay, so for twoyears now I saw I agree with you
one thousand percent. But remember something, Candice. It wasn't until they put

(59:21):
Michael in his arms that he wentfrom a brained, damaged person that had
no emotions. Think about it.We got shadowing of it with Robin.
He had emotions. We knew theywere there, but he couldn't connect the
emotions to how he was supposed toact until Michael was in his arms and

(59:43):
he knew no one else can protectthis baby except for me. In this
moment right now, right, Andthat's not said I put Michael, because
here's to say, we also gottaremember this is the same same guy,
right. This is why I'm notI'm not down in Michael and relationship because
I always said it's a difference,you know. But the thing is to
that Jason went to jail for you, for Michael. Like when Michael got

(01:00:07):
saying to jail, Jason even said, I'm the only one that could protect
him. That's fine, however,and Joe was the only one that could
attack his mother. And when youjail for her, you know, you
can't You kind of can't pick andchoose. And that's what General Hospital is
trying to do right now. He'strying to pick and choose which sacrifice.

(01:00:28):
But anty don't you think because allright, because you know the joke I've
been always saying here, it's beenonly two and a half years. This
isn't like it was fifteen years.This wasn't twenty years ago. This is
literally two years. In that twoyears, Elizabeth, Sam and Carly right,
and I used those three they grievedfor this man, right, the

(01:00:49):
children and they and they forged bondswith each other. I'm sorry, No,
I'm gonna have to say this becauseI'm with that side of the social
media universe that now everything that carlyAnd and Sam went through in these last
two years is now null and void. No, no, I'm sorry,

(01:01:12):
No, that's not happen. You'reasking us for too much at this point.
Because Sam understood, she went toDante and flourished with Dante, because
she understood the mistakes. Hold on, hold on, wait for it,
drum roll, David, give mea drum roll. She wasn't. She

(01:01:35):
wasn't about the mistakes that Jason made. She was about the mistakes that she
made as a mother. And nowit's all null and boy, now it's
all blaming on Jason. I'm sorry. That doesn't quite flye. You can't
know something seven months ago and notknow it now. You want us to

(01:01:59):
you want us to just suspend toomuch. I just really, we're not
talking about No, we can't justthink about the first second. We're not
talking about girls in their twenties withyoung kids. We're talking about girls in
their forties. Women strong. I'vebeen through everything. I've watched you know,

(01:02:20):
I've watched my aunt die, I'vewatched my brother die, I was
a con artist. I lost thebaby. This man was everything to me.
No, I'm sorry, No,you're not playing the throw line the
way it needs to be played,because this is not how Sam would react.
It's not I'm feeling like this isalso like pent up, Like I'm

(01:02:43):
seeing two different sides. Theres I'mseeing where when Sam was talking, right,
I just see half of that doteven have to do with the current
situation, like it's been a thing, because the ongoing thing is that every
woman that Japan has been with hasto pass to Carly Tip Right, Cary
is such an influence on Jason andthe decisions that he makes that sometimes it

(01:03:07):
makes a break, but you knowthe relationship. That's why Sam loved Drew
so much. We missed Billy Milleralways and forever, but because he wasn't
all about Carl Yeah right right inCarla Sunny. So this so for me,
like I said, I watched thatscene and I was like, again,
Sam should have went to Jason.That's my That's one of my big

(01:03:29):
biggest issues in Sam. You shouldhave went to Jason. But I get
why you did what you did becauseI, like I said, I need
for another factor of this to alsosay some stuff, because yeah, Jason,
you've been gone. So here's what'sbeen happening. The women in your
life moved on, moved up,and now it's like the sucker punch is

(01:03:53):
you did this. You made thisdecision and it's caused the shock waves and
it's not just hitting it's in yourkids. And now you are now Alan
Cornman, Jason, welcome to theclub. Now your decision is reflecting on
your children. And that's why Isaid that's the only saving grace of that

(01:04:15):
storyline of this return is his children. Okay, so we're gonna have to
wrap up with General Hospital in thenext few minutes, but I do have
to say this. I'm sorry.If you want to play this, then
you've got to get Jason and Callytogether this whole testing Carly with all the
different men on the screen. Laura, right, girl, if you're listening,

(01:04:40):
you've been on the show. Welove you. You know I love
you. I have loved you,girl, I've loved you since You'll Prescott
Davis. Let's just put it thisway. I'll follow you to CBS.
When I didn't even watched that show, I started watching that show because of
you. Girl. But having saidthat, you know, General Hospital needs
to anchor this. They need toanchor it, and they need to anchor

(01:05:00):
it real quick. There are twomore storylines on this show we got to
talk about before we go, andis what's your name here yet? David?
No, yeah, he's underway.Okay, all right, So girl,
my girl, my Candice. Youknow I love you right I'm here

(01:05:21):
with you and I feel it.But they even need to anchor it with
Jason and Carley getting together, orthey need to give us something that we
don't know yet to make this allmake sense. Because right now, you
can't have it both ways. Youcan't be about your kids. But you
did this all for Carley. It'snot working now. Having said that,

(01:05:45):
okay, I have to say this. I'm loving Anna and Valentine. I
see where this is all going.I hate where it's all going, but
I do love that they've brought itback around and they're playing it this way.
I don't like where it's gonna endup going, but I do like
that they're playing with it. Havingsaid that, okay, let's get to

(01:06:06):
the heart of it all. Sonny, what the hell are you people doing
with Ava Kansas? Please? Pleaseplease, please tell me, Please tell
me you're on the cham page withme. What the hell do you know?
She is smarter than that? Youknow she is better than girl?

(01:06:29):
What the hell are they doing?Okay, let me just say this right
now. With Anna and Valentine,this is classic spy games. This is
like cat and mouth, you know, stuff like that. And you know,
oh, you know you know that, you know, you know,
you don't know I supposed to talkabout they don't like them together? Right,
I mean I did. Everybody knowsthis. I like because they have

(01:06:54):
that chemistry. It's sort of likeit's like those again, those old five
movies where you have the secret yeah, you know, right looking after somebody,
Oh, Dame's Bond type type offilms and stuff like that. I'm
just concerned because you're gonna say that. But no, my whole thing is

(01:07:15):
just like, all right, you'retrying to figure out who Pipeman is at
this point, Hey, g eight, I'm pipe how you doing that's right?
No? No, no, no, I've decided I'm Pipeman. I'm
also Austin's boss. I'm also theone that set the house on fire,
and I'm also the one that killedthem at me. I'm Pikeman, and

(01:07:35):
I think that if you took apole on Twitter about which of versus the
bad guy, I win. Please, girl, I'm glad you're joining us.
But if they were going to takethe poll, the l G mother

(01:07:59):
O, come on, we allknow this. Nobody would expect this me
right, because I'm quote unquote thequom baya, you know everything, So
it would be a surprise. IfI was a steel killer and Pipeman,
I would do it all. I'mlike this, hey, y'all, I'll
be like kaddus, why do yougo ring on your shoes? Oh?
I got nail powis? Okay?Here, good point. I'm gonna stop

(01:08:20):
you right there just bus second.It's a quick little poll. There were
four of us on here right now. Who cares about Pipeman anymore? David?
Do you care? Nope? Notreally, Kansas do you care?

(01:08:41):
But our new friends who I loveAnd I'm gonna have to go in a
minute, but I wanted to indirectwith you so much. Do you care
about honestly be honored me? Yeah, yo, Adela, I kind of
do because I'm a Jarley Stan andthat's kind of our story. So I

(01:09:01):
kind of do. Yeah, I'msorry, is not but wait, hold
on, Angela, in the grandscheme of things, is it gonna change
anything in the trajectory of what isgoing on across the canvas? For you?
God, if I could change onething that was going on across the

(01:09:25):
canvas, oh Jesus, it wouldn'tbe Pikeman. I mean, it would
be a segment of Pikemen. Iwould change the Sunnies med medication messing thing,
because that's just jail free card nonsense, dougebag. He's a douchebag,

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even on his meds. So allright, So you know, I think
in a way, Angela, we'reall kind of on the same page because
they're just they're throwing the spaghetti onthe wall with all of it, and
you're picking out selected pieces to tryto make the storyline work. General Hospital.
Let me because I'm gonna have togo in a few minutes. I'm

(01:10:08):
waiting for a text message. Butlet me say this. You got a
lot of good stuff going on,a lot of good stuff. There's a
lot of stuff you can play.We're done. We're done. We're done.
We're done. We're done with thespy games, with all the inter,
you know, interplay of the stuffthat we don't understand. Either give

(01:10:29):
us something solid that we can linkonto, or kill and end this storyline
once and for all for good.Candice, girl, continue what you were
saying, because you are in aroll. Girl. Okay, here's the
thing, General Hospital, and thisis prime, this is when Dan and
Chris was on the show. You'rebuilding this character up. You kind of

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stopped, and I'm gonna say it'sprobably because there was a right transition of
a right and transition of it all. But if you're going to tell me
this person just like you told meabout Austin's boss, just like you told
me about the serial kill, justlike you told me about ABC B e
MG, if you're telling me Pipemanis this larger than life person who was

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taking down people within the organization andgot to Sunny and is doing all this
and then got valanced. I needfor this to be the biggest baddie that
I've covered back and it needs tobe somebody within the GAH history books.
And I'm gonna tell you why,because I saw a lot of people need
to be he Brenda Barret, areyou about to be honest to me?

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You I'm gonna okay, I'm gonnatake I'm gonna take it back. I
gonna take it back to me.I think it could be connected to a
character in the past, but it'sactually a person that we're currently seeing right
now. Okay, So here's okay, plays who I really think Pipeming should
be. Don't listen up and listenvery well. Who knows how to get

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to Sonny. There's only a coupleof people, But this person actually would
have story with this person that's alreadyon screen and their daughter. It was
a clear there an no Rick,Oh could very well see being Rick.

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But here's the thing. I'm justgonna throw this alternative out to you.
Okay, I've always loved the characterof Jerry Jackson for both actors. Let
it go Brenda, let it beBrenda and Jerry Jackson on the last go
around, Jerry, Brenda, Jerryhas better than Brenda. Well, okay,

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let it be Saith right though beforeBrenda. Well, here's the thing.
I was, well, Faith Roccowas supposed to be for decks.
I'm gonna let that go. Butwhat's I'm just saying to me when Rick
Lansing because the timing would be perfect. Okay, we find out daddy and
Italia Natalie right orning even hey girl, she you know all of the sudden

(01:13:17):
sniffing around Sonny. Okay, yeah, you have their daughter, well her
daughter, because Rick is the stepfatheralready met this out. Blaze is around
Christina, right, Okay, youhave Molly, She's I mean obviously Molly
Christina and all that is connected.And if you told me that Rick Lansing

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is the one that's pulling strings andalso has something on Ava and also had
something on Olivia. We got ballgames, Rick herbs Rick Rick, Rick
Rick. We are calling you,we are praying that they were bringing and

(01:14:00):
if I am right there with youon all of that. We got to
talk about one one thing, GeneralHospital. I don't want to, but
we do have to address it.TJ. Molly, Christina, baby,
go a, Angela. You're you'rejust join up. Go go with the
baby talk with us, Angela.I'm wondering if Mollie is gonna have a

(01:14:24):
miracle pregnancy after today. I thoughtthat something go on. Give us a
little log, give us a lotof Angela, because I mean, well,
I mean, obviously Christina ain't handlingthat baby over. Oh, and
it would be so interesting at thispoint because I was like, what is

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Molly gonna do? This is hersister and her and tjing problems, but
now her and Citia are back together. But Molly gets pregnant, and you
know, Christina's like, I don'tknow, and I want to give up
the baby, and Molly's like,yeah, you can keep that one.
We got this one. And TVis gonna be like, wait a minute,
that one's mine too, Angela.Are we gonna find out from the

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surrogate that a baby actually no,no, can't. What do you think
we're gonna find out from the surrogatea baby did survive? You want to
know what? What? What areyou gonna find out? Me? Not
caring about the storyline. I try, I try, y'all, No,
seriously, I try with you,baby, I'm right there with you.

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I did. I did give usthe back. Yeah, well, I'm
gonna say, and this is anotherreason that Rick could be bad because I
was thinking about the custody battle.But you know, because in my head,
I'm thinking when a Lectus said toChristina, if you're gonna make me
choose between my two daughters on this, then no, But then I was

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like this that you know, darnand well down the line to be a
custody battle. Have Rick represent Mollyand have a leftis represent Christina. It's
dirty, it's nothing. It's asoap proper, folks. Let's get to
the nitty gritty. However, I'mgonna be honest. I let I will
say this, General Hospital, thisis the most you've used TJ and Molly
in a very long time. That'sthe problem I'm having. I should have

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been well before this is that's toend this couple that you only show me
sometimes. I've are here Christina,y'all still do not okay, you don't
really know what to do with Christina. I will say this, I do
like Christina and Blade, but y'allknow what I said about that. I'm

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like, I'm so confused that whichon which way I'm supposed to be with
the storyline that I'm just like atthe end of the day, Okay,
I'm surprised the baby still theys hereOkay, because I thought, and that's
when Sonny and death with y'all y'all, y I thought, but we're here
now. So then you got Mollyhaving a breakdown moment like she's realizing,

(01:17:06):
oh crap, day got Christina andBlaize's brace is like, you know sometimes
I went the stable. Wizards.Baby, you just knew You're just not
hard. I love you yet it'sinsane Russia. Okay, I have to
bring this up. We're gonna haveto move to another soap in a moment
or two, and I'm probably gonnahave to get out of here in the

(01:17:26):
next ten to fifteen minutes, butI have to bring this up, General
Hospital. I love you. Ido. Three years old at my at
my nana's MC nanny, that's whatI called her, and we watched it
every day. And when I wasthree years old, I didn't know what
these people were talking about, butI was I was very invested. I
remember Luke and Laura's wedding and andand Bobby, remember Bobby. Bobby didn't

(01:17:49):
want them to get married, butshe she put on the prey station and
all that blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, fast forward all the way
the way we're on now, allthese forty some odd years later. I'm
not gonna admit exactly how old Iam. But if you go back and
look at Luke and Laura's wedding,and understand y'all figure out how old I
am? All right, fast forward. You brought on Ava LaRoe. You

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brought on Ava Larree either epic fail, General Hospital. I'm sorry, epic
fail worse than Blair Kramer and weare expected. Blair had so many ties,
There was so much stuff that couldhave come on. You could have

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said, I'm gonna I'm gonna giveyou three weeks worth of work so you
can interact with everyone you need tointeract. Epic fail, Ava LaRue epic
fail. She goes well with Mauriceor numb. Honestly, No, I

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don't think that chemistry is That chemistryis not Maurice Laura right. That chemistry
is not Maurice camer Braun. Thatchemistry is not Maurice Cynthia Preston, That
chemistry is not more No, I'msorry, No, the chemistry is not
there for the two of them.It's not Danders, Am I wrong?

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I mean when I see Eva andMaurice, I see nothing but Nico Maria,
thank you. It's the chemistry isjust not there. And there is
a lot that you could do withEva LaRue as Blaize's mother Dave. Now
I'm gay. We all know this, so you know it does touch me

(01:19:45):
in a way, like okay intwenty twenty four. It's just really the
storyline we need to be telling.Yes, I agree, there are still
families out there that cannot won't,just cannot find the way to unders stand
in acceps. I get that,But you played the beat so badly,

(01:20:05):
so badly, and you have evilrole. Oh my god, And I
gotta say, I'm sorry. Peopleare not gonna like this, but you
know where I thought the chemistry wouldbe best with her anyone. Nope,
thin Thin. They should have Theyshould have chemistry tested the two of them

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and had her being the other sideof the support by being the mother that
can't understand and not wanting Sin togo into the depth the depths of alcoholism
and at the same time not beingable to pull that would have been such
a great storyline with thin. Yeah, get in there. So I I'm

(01:21:02):
an island here. I like Sonnyand Natalia, and it's mostly for containment
purposes, because you know, anyonebut Carly has to deal with that.
Man. I don't care about thecharacter of Natalia. But I also I
think we're going to see her evolveand go home. Let me do this

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on the flip side, after everythingis eight, after everything Ava has been
through. Why couldn't this be Ada'sredemption storyline? I would have you know.
I mean, I loved and Iwant to hear you, but I
heard my girl say, oh Canice. Wasn't this the point with It could

(01:21:46):
have been the Machini to right allthe roads with Mulgan. Wasn't this the
storyline to finally redeem Ava all theway? Here's the problem? You made
sure to take down Ava and stripher. Like again, I would say
this Ama being kind of full unquotetell me with Nina and all that stuff,

(01:22:06):
Like to me, it brought methe wrong way. But to me
it's like all right, Ama wasnever meant to be a heroic, you
know, heroine. She's still overfreaking Jerome. Okay, see somebody who
will mess with you. This storylinehas gone so many different ways that the

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only thing I can see is againwriting transition of a writing transition. Yeah,
just wasn't supposed to be the redemptthe storyline. This was supposed to
be her, you know, tryingto help Sonny out and whatnot. But
then again the show was trying tofigure out who was the big bating on
this Valentine because keep keep in mind, the key the key trigger was Olivia.

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Jerome was killed, so who hasenough power to do all that?
Again, the you know, theykind of shifted. I don't know if
ay I noticed it or not.They kind of shifted a little bit with
the storytelling. And right now itis at a pause. It is at
a pause, so I don't knowwhat's happen is going to happen. But

(01:23:11):
I just was like, and ifthey do what I say, they're going
to do with Aba and make herthe new Claudia, y'all know what I'm
talking about. What you're talking aboutthis damn show on Laura. They're putting

(01:23:31):
a lot on me. They're puttinga lot on me. I mean,
it's again, I will, Iwill defend General Hospital because you'll know sometimes
I'll do this is that you knowthis show in the last couple of months
again, we you know, let'sgo back Dan Chris, write a strike

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Dan Chris, Elizabeth Patrick and Elizabeth. Then it's going to be Alabeth and
then you got you know, whoever'sgoing to come after? So the show
has This is a first for alot of us to see. This is
where we have so many writing transitionsthat the certain storylines that we thought we
knew was going to happen is nowpaused and going a different way. And

(01:24:17):
again some of the stuff is theythey had it opened, so now they
have to fix it. They haveto, like you know, Okay,
let's get rid of this part becausethe main story. Here's the thing.
The main story of this year,well the last four months, was the
Jason's return. And again you buildit up, you build it up,

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and I know some people will sayit's great, but the majority is kind
of just like at a standstill.Because again, just like with Sonny,
just like with a Look, justlike with certain other people, you need
to either stay in track of historyand evolved. You can still be the
same person, but you have toevolve and grow, because again this is

(01:25:00):
this is not this is nothing newlike Ava and Sonny Cornel like you got
funny, really, Kansas, Kansas, I gotta jump in here. I'm
sorry. I hear what you're saying, and I agree with you. I
agree with you on the premise ofwhat you're saying. But Sam learned Sam
came through stuff and got to aplace. Okay, Ava, Ava lost

(01:25:26):
her daughter, came through Ryan,everything came to a place. So they're
like, Elizabeth, this is thisis General Hospital's problem when they get to
a place where they've either redeemed thecharacter or they brought you through an arc,
and then they don't know what todo with those characters, so they
revert back to as though they neverlearned anything from what they've been through.

(01:25:50):
It's just it's a disservice to usthat have been watching through all of this.
You know, at this point,think about it for a second.
Through history of the show, Ava'sbeen there, what about nine years?

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Oh? I think ye? Sheknows everything that Sonny has gone through thirteen
So yeah, so it's it's it'sa oh my god, it's eleven years.
So she has been through everything herewhile she's there. But she also
knows his history. So at thispoint had not bet on Sonny as the

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one to bet on, etcetera,etcetera. After everything that went down with
Ryan, etcetera, etcetera. There'sa growth in Ava that they gave us
that they're snatching back. I'm gonnacall it the Elizabeth Weber syndrome. They
get the character to a certain pointand then they forget everything that the character

(01:26:58):
has been through and put us backin a space any Oh, hold on,
all right, I'm gonna I'm goingto disagree with you for a second
here. So this is what theyshould have done. What roads for Ava?
This is a soap opera. Theyshould have her plane Sonny because she
wanted in charge of the mob,but also falling for him, and then

(01:27:23):
turn that down to this yeah,power couple, his power dark mob couple.
Lets Sonny embrace being a bad guymobster. So Moe wants to be
a mobster, let him do it, but don't present him as the romantic
heroic lead. Give him somebody justas dark as he is. Nicholas is

(01:27:43):
dark. Friend what Michael did today, but Bunny could have been her,
you know, and they could havejust said the worst things about each other
but still made it work. Averyguards up in a happy haul. They're
leading the mob, running the mobtogether, you know, because she totally

(01:28:05):
embraces that life. That's the storywe should be watching right now. Absolutely
all right, you're wrong, I'mgonna have to go in a few minutes.
So does anyone mind if we transitionto Days of Our Lives, go
for it. Well, I wantedto Jarley, but go ahead, wait,

(01:28:28):
no, give you my points forJohn. We can go back.
We can go back after you leave. Go ahead, okay, Days of
Our Lives? Oh jeeze, Dave. I see what you're trying to do.
I do, I do, Ido, I do? But you
went so far off track. Kansas, Kansas, Candas. Tell me,

(01:28:51):
tell me, girl, you're feelingthe same thing I'm feeling, right,
depends the w story you're talking about. Yeah, girl, I'm talking about
the major storyline. I think youshutting it off. Faith. Go ahead,
girl, go ahead. No,no, who you gonna be leaving?

(01:29:17):
Okay? Look, Days of Olds. I said earlier in this show
that I was rooting for you guysto have gotten best drama because I think
the bulk of the work. Ilooked at it, I looked at the
reels that were sent in and Iand I get it. I get it.
I get it. And I've beenwatching General Hospital since I'm three years

(01:29:41):
old, only been watching General HospitalDays of All Us since I'm like fourteen
years old. When Molena got possessed, because everybody who was a soap fan.
I don't care what you people acknowledge. Now y'all all turned in.
Y'all all saw Molina rides a falsethat Yeah, yeah, okay, Jace,

(01:30:03):
we've been we've been begging you forthe last like four months with storylines,
and we know you six months ahead, so when we do these shows,
we actually know that the stuff hasalready been acted out, so we
know we ain't gonna get exactly whatwe want. But we've been telling you
point blank what we need from thisshow. Okay. I have loved the

(01:30:29):
idea that we have seen, youknow, Harris slash Jason. You know.
I have loved the chemistry that wegot between Tomorrow and you know and
Steve. We all will waiting forthat although she is on General Hospital and
you're playing it now horribly General Hospitalwith Jason and and you know, with

(01:30:51):
Laura and Steve. But that's okay, y'all, y'all might fix it.
We're gonna wait and see days ofall lives. It It's just time.
It's time for a research. Y'allhad all the stuff going on behind the
scenes, You got rid of somefolks that you shouldn't got rid of,

(01:31:13):
you trikes and storylines that didn't work. You have two major storylines that are
really working. Oh oh, Kansas, take it. Take it from me,
girls, take it please. Okay, days of all time? How
you doing with me? Here's thething, all right? Right, Like
you just said, we know therewas a lot of behind the scenes stuff

(01:31:34):
that that kind of made some ofthese storylines not tie in. We know
that there's people coming back. Here'sthe thing, Okay, the main story
is this whole EJ. I meanthat's meat well okay, so EJ's secret
came out from stop hun about thebaby paternity. In return, EJ is

(01:32:00):
now acting to be the new youknow, not the new, but you
know, get his old job back. He's dropping out of Maryland, you
know, campaign and stuff like thatand and all that stuff. Okay,
Dan, you're still having Nicole andEric, I mean, you know,
all that jazz and whatnot. AndI'm gonna be honest, even though this
is supposed to be Daves's main story, this is where again I have to

(01:32:24):
say this brilliant acting. I saidthis from of course, Greg Vaughan.
I'll know that with Ari alright,with jan and even with some homegirl that
played Justica tolone. I gotta giveher her flowers too, Yes, yes,

(01:32:45):
yes, thank you, yes,yeah, but the thing is just
to marry the billionaire. I ain'tmad at your girl. If you know,
if he has a brother, letme know. Okay, thank you,
but again, pay off the waythat it was supposed to. And
again, this because one hundred teams. I like I said, I feel

(01:33:05):
bad because there's two fan bases thatare gonna lose out on this. And
I think like the fact that youkind of had EJ gonna be more of
the villain in this than Salon was. That's the other problem too. It's
like Solon kind of got away withit, Scott Free versus with EJ.

(01:33:27):
Now Agen seeing blackmail and this iswhere it's gonna open the gates to Gabby.
So we'll see what happens with that. My question to you guys is,
how do you how are you guysliking what it's going on? What's
EJ? Do you feel it solike they could have avoided this? And
summary just the summary? How doeseverybody feel about the storyline. I'm gonna

(01:33:50):
talk to you angelas. I don'tknow. I kind of wish you would
go a little different yeah, well, I mean, what else is new?
I mean I thought, I mean, it really would have been great
for this to end up with,you know, Eja and Sloan together.
Yeah, if they were gonna dowith the bad guy kind of thing with

(01:34:12):
him. It's also this story ismissing, Sammy. It just is.
It's just there's something it's missing,Sammy. She should be here just enjoying
the hell out of this girl.Praise you, Praise the Hallelujah, Praise

(01:34:36):
the Gospel. I agree with youa thousand percent. They should do whatever
they possibly can to get Alison backon canvas for a while. This story
is a absolutely missing. Say Iagree with you, but I'm gonna see

(01:34:57):
no thing said. I'm gonna saysomething that I have said on this show
for months on and now it's timeto stop flirting with us back and forth.
Either he's gonna go completely dark orhe's gonna have the revelation and go
completely light. You gotta do somethingwith EJ. It's time. It's time

(01:35:19):
to get you out of the shadowof between the dark and the light.
Personally, so Anthony, I likehe's balancing. I'm saying that they're writing
it in a way that he nevergoes completely dark. He's never completely light.
They keep giving us the shadow inbetween on each side. And at

(01:35:42):
this point this is Stephane DeMars sun. It is time for Ensic go completely
dark. Whether they take that acrossthe board for the rest of the EJ
character life of the show or not, they can always Soap's always fun and
a way to redeem people. Theycan always redeem him later. They are

(01:36:03):
missing an opportunity with an actor likeDan in the storylines that have been written.
The fact that he is not goingoff to completely bad, he has
not jumped off the cliff and becomethe Phoenix bothers the hell out of me.
Why is it that the only childrenof Stephano's that are anywhere near as

(01:36:25):
competent as he is are his daughters? Yep, yep, his son.
Every time EJ talked to that picture, I really just wanted to look at
him and go, you are suchan incippointment. Oh my god. Yes.
And when you compare it to talkingto the picture of Stephanie on The
Bulls and the Beautiful, there's likehe's no baby, Oh no, no,

(01:36:48):
no no. Just just watch theepisodes of the Bulls and the beautiful
and understand this. This is whatwe do with a legacy character like that,
right, And I mean they wereable to keep Stefano around forever being
a bad guy. They can doit with EJ. They just have to

(01:37:08):
commit and just you know, givehim and bring him that. They think,
okay, so let's agree to something. Let's all agree to something real
quick. The trope that they're fallinginto is he's beautiful. He's absolutely beautiful.
He's got chemistry with everyone, everysingle actor and actress on that canvas,

(01:37:32):
he's got chemistry with So they don'twant to make him that bad because
they feel like if they do that, then they're taking that storyline to a
place where they can't return from.But pay attention to the past. You
can always redeem a character. Lethim go bad, and let him stay
bad, and get him out ofthe streets. The way you did with

(01:37:55):
Chef and Ol Senior. You gothim out of everything he ever did.
You could do the same thing withEJ and keep it interesting and keep it
fun. But there needs to beone day stop with this bringing in bad
folks that say for year, yearand a half, they do nasty,
they get killed, they get putin jail, they disappear whatever. Stop

(01:38:16):
with these temporary bad guys and lethim live the mantle of what has been
placed in front of him, andthe fact is or or completely redeem him.
Bring Sammy back and let them livethat storyline that we're all waiting to
see, and let him completely redeemhimself and let someone else step into the

(01:38:38):
step ino badness. Now, Ijust got to say this about Gabby Days
of all lives you're doing how wrong? You doing her wrong? Big time
wrong. Thank you. You've beenreally quiet lately. Tell us what you're
loving and hating about Days right now? Or what I love? I love

(01:39:02):
the performances I love. I loveeveryone's performance and j and Nichols story there,
I mean everyone's spot on the story. Well, I think I'm just
you know, I have the endin the back of my head and it's

(01:39:26):
hard for me to route. LikeCandice said, because well, I know
I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonnatell you, David plaint Blank, her
exit is gonna eat Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god.
The exit is. It's bad.It's really can't go girl, go
girl, go girl? Are youlaughing? No? I got my job

(01:39:53):
well, even I don't knows howbad this is. I will say it's
I will say you know that youknow next week is July, and that's
the countdown obviously to you know alreadyleaving. I will say this without giving
too much. It is. Itis. It is messed up. It
is, it's really messed up.I can't, I can't. I'm gonna

(01:40:17):
say this right now to the eat, to the fans and the Ericle fans
out there. I really when Isay this, I you know, usually
I don't do this, but I'mgonna say this to both of y'all fans,
those out there, y'all rode hardfor years, and it is messed
up that it's going to have togo down this way. That's all I
can say. Now, Uh,do you want me to answer your question?

(01:40:41):
To answer me about what I'm likein on this shot? Is it
still left? But you dry?I think he's ahead. I'm here,
Okay, you want me to answeras I can? Okay? Do you
want to answer your quest, SenatorDavid? Yep. But what I'm liking

(01:41:04):
on the show, let me domy miss America Patterson, what I like
about the days of our lives?Right now? Is the Janelle storyline with
Johnny and Chanel. I'm going tobe a little disheartened if something happens to
my verny. But I can seeobviously because Carson was taking his eternity leave
and all that stuff. But Ido see where there could be some this,

(01:41:28):
you know, the same separation betweenPaulina Andhandel. I also want to
say this, I also enjoy theyoung folks. And no, I'm not
talking about Taytan how Tatan how no, no, no, no, I'm
talking about that Sasha girl. Haha. I like ya. I like
her. Yeah, Felicity, Yeah, I like to do doctor doctor Green.

(01:41:55):
By the way, Hey Ron,Ron, Ryan Day, all of
y'all over there, y'all know donDan Well, you're wrong doing that.
You're gonna you're gonna name the doctordoctor Green, knowing my love with Mark
green On. Yeah, yeah,yep, yep, okay, how'd you
have to see one thing? Though? I have to him mind Ron and

(01:42:18):
and and his crew. He isthe child of EJ. Is Jimmy.
He's the child of EJ and Shammy. Yes, his grandmother is barrain Up.
But please, he is the childof EJ and Sammy. Please please

(01:42:38):
let him out to play. Youhave such a talent in this actor.
He can play anything that you throwaction. Stop missing with this childish crap.
Give them some good stuff to playwith. Well, I can see,
I can see. I can seeJohnny emerge because you're aready, can

(01:42:59):
see right now of him protecting.But if something does happened to that child,
I'm gonna be honest with you.Called Len a girlfriend, Hey,
bo, you might want to runagain. That's something that's something you gotta
we gotta remember this. Johnny comesfrom a from both pool of the family

(01:43:20):
where they protect their own breed whenit gets when it gets to it,
they protect their own breed. Butthe only difference is is that Johnny he
has more de mirror in him thananything. So yeah, I would Yeah,
That's why I said I like Ilike them. I like them,

(01:43:43):
Yeah, And my thing is theybetter. I hope she doesn't lose the
baby because one thing they did theycast the actress to play Felicity Green and
Philip and she has down So ifshe's supposed to be a comfort to Chanel,

(01:44:05):
if they have a down syndrome child. Okay, So I'm gonna throw
this out there because I am partof the LGBTQ community. Okay, y'all
flirted with this how many times theyIf you're gonna go down that road,

(01:44:25):
you need to make a solid decisionat that point because people only flip blocks
for so long, especially when thechildren involved, etc. Etc. But
I will say this, Okay,let me actually jump to the other side.
This is Sammy and EJ's child.You need to give the boy who
has already proven big time that hecan handle whatever you throw it him.

(01:44:51):
It's time to give him some realneed to play with mm hmm, right,
it's not Andrea. Oh stop,you'll go out in a minute.
I'm talking to my dogs. Girlfriend. What do you love and and and
and not? Loving so much aboutdays? Right now? Me? Yeah,

(01:45:17):
girl, we love you joining us. Thank you so much. Sorry,
I I love I love everything withKristen. We need more Kristen.
Okay, yes, thank you,Yain and I, but go ahead.

(01:45:42):
I thought that they handled Harris's exitwell, of course I loved Harris Neva.
You know, my Jarly existing acrossthe multiverse was great. I think
they should cook up Ava and Lucashat Head exploding alone would be fabulous.

(01:46:04):
I want to get to the damnXander reveal. Thank you. I'm just
like, this is going to bea you know, who can be a
bigger dick off between him and Alexfor how much longer? Let me angela

(01:46:29):
real quar Yes, that was workingacross the canvas. I don't know.
I mean, I don't hate Alex. I know that there are a lot
of people that don't like him.I don't hate him. I there's no
place for Ben without Sierra, SoI kind of view this the same way

(01:46:58):
you do. I don't hate Alex, but they never anchored him in a
way that gives us a reason toroot for him. So at this point
it's it's just it's fodder and fluff. Yeah, there's nothing that anchors us
to him, and they don't.I think by making him Justin's child that

(01:47:20):
that would automatically anchor him. Butby the fact that you know, none
of Justin's children other than Sonny wereever prominently displayed, there's no there's no
real connection to it. So eachdifferentiation of storyline that they throw him into,
they keep. That's the spaghetti atthe wall that just slides down the

(01:47:42):
wall that they can't take a pieceoff and say this is the way we
go with it. All right,let me ask you one more question.
One of my favorite actresses. OhI love me from Judith Chapman. I
love me some Judah Chapman. Weall know this week, girlfriend, what

(01:48:09):
do you feel? Girl? Whatdo you feel? Who's the daddy?
That was your thank you? Great? You know it's always nice to see
my Glory and Kevin on a differentshow, just saying, you know,

(01:48:33):
here's the deal. We've been talkingabout this. This has been a story
that has been kind of wept under, and you know, I'm starting to
question it. You know what daysYou're gonna throw me a curve ball,
Auntie, because if you say thisbaby is he a demur or Kuriocus,
I'm going to pass out. Ohmy god, you're talking Leo. Yes,

(01:48:57):
yeah, because my whole thing isit can't okay, here's that.
I love John Black. I loveJohn Black, but John Black has you
know the last bill was Paul rightby the way, shout out Christmas Shan,
good job. Lay Yeah. Iwill say is that if you because

(01:49:24):
right now you guy Xander and hisfraternity right to me, that will literally
shock everybody if you go ahead tosay Leo is either or it's gonna here's
my It's not gonna be John Blackbecause for reasons I won't discuss here that
you guys all probably know it wasalready brought up the last time. That's

(01:49:47):
not gonna be. You know,he is not gonna be central to his
story for a while. Now.What if they really threw us a curveball
and we find out that she's nothis mother? That's what I've been thinking,

(01:50:11):
That's what I have been thinking.No, wait, whoa wait,
hold up, time out. Okay, we all know, okay, okay,
because we do got to get tothe Young and Russell's boat request when
days on lies, because we doknow there were some castin announcements regarding a
certain woman, and we do knowthat Sarah is looking for Bander's mama.
Y'all, this is the current ball. You must say, Leo and Dada

(01:50:32):
brothers, don't you? Oh mygod, let me pass out right now
foot Okay, remember, real quick, folks, Leo tried and almost successfully
got Sanda in Japan. Okay,let's move on there, because we've only
got ten minutes club, So realquick, candids, the Young of the
Restless is your baby, so thatwas hold, we need to know about

(01:50:56):
the Young and the Restless right now? Tucker, Tucker is out y Trevor.
I know that, But Trevor,I also promoted and Drew got the
company. But guess who her mysterypartner is? Is none of it than
Victor Newman? Because Victor wants togo after Drew bo and he's recruiting Cow
to be the coach. What arethoughts on that? Well, I have

(01:51:21):
a question. Is that the samereason you think he wants Adam in charge
of Newman Media? Nope? No, you know you know why he's doing
this for Adam. I'm gonna tellyou three things. This is this is
an umbrella that's gonna that's gonna goacross the canvas. He is looking for

(01:51:45):
revenge for Nikki. He's looking tolegitimize the Newman brand, so to speak.
He's giving Adam a test. Thisis another. This is the ring
the Young and the Russell had setup. Adam's a test over and over
and over again, and honestly,Victoria let him down. Candice of my

(01:52:10):
right or wrong? That's true andwe got eight minutes. Thank you,
David. What are your thought?But he uh, I'm liking it so
far, and I'm not gonna waitand see right now. I just want
to see how this goes. Okay, Angela, I'm liking it. I'm

(01:52:39):
sad that Tucker's leaving because I wasagain an Island. I absolutely love Trevor
Saint jonas Tucker, but you too. You can't go wrong with Victory Newman.
No, I do have to saythis. I love Steven Nichols,
I do, I do, Ido, I do, But talk,
Uh, you know, Trevor broughtsomething to talk that that Stephen never could.

(01:53:03):
And maybe just worting maybe what washappening at the time, but but
Trevor brought something to talk that Stevennever could. I really am disappointed that
that's just this is the way it'sall ending out. Candice, you and
I we were on the same page. We thought what was gonna happen was
gonna happen, and they didn't.Yeah, I'll say that. I will

(01:53:27):
say that I am disappointed with theshow for not using Trevor's true talent and
I feel it so especially somebody andsomebody who's watched, just like you guys,
probably won't like to live. Weall know that Trevor Saint John can
do some some good stuff. Butyeah, it so real quick, I'll
call I'm just gonna do no moreto answers. Okay with this one guy.

(01:53:48):
So we had Abby and also Katehit out and Johnny have reaccess to
their family. Abby feel a certaintype of way because nobody told her about
her mama both sides. Kate cameback and found out about Claire and her
Sinanigan's and gave her side eyes Angelato the children. One word answer,

(01:54:12):
because we're gonna go to go aminute, how did you feel about it?
Say it on my time? Youbroke up? I'm so sorry,
I said. With Abby's reaction tonot knowing what was going on to where
her mama, and also Kate andher reaction to her new sister, Claire
and Hershinanigan, how did you feelabout those two? One word apathetic?

(01:54:39):
That's what words? Anthony minus baffled, David uh finally right, So mass
Hallelarnio, Okay, real quick,going to going to beautiful. We're gonna
do this. I think the bigstory everybody's talking about is we got broke
back a CEO. Jeffie's Mallett hopeis stop is starting to stop having headache.

(01:55:04):
But she's about to get a bigheadache because guess who's that Thomas.
But Thomas isn't the laws. Hegot Douglas at Paris and surprise, surprise,
we gotta shiney Raine. One moreto answer David about Thomas and Paris

(01:55:25):
and Hope. Oh geez uh hope. Okay, I don't know where he's
going with it. Okay, right? Who people want this one? Angela's

(01:55:45):
I can't see this in one word, so I'm just gonna say, Paris,
You're in danger, girl, Ohmy god, oh my god,
to go up. That was myanswer. I was gonna say, you
like, we'll beat me. Mygod, I swear to God, that

(01:56:11):
was my answer. You and dangercall parent animals, Anthony. Here here's
my one word. W t L. What's that you said? Angela?
Thank you for coming on the show. Toby Castany, good luck, David,
good luck. We will be back, Pam, Hey girl, Angela

(01:56:35):
come back with us in two weeksso we can discuss everything that happens between
now and then. Please, absolutely, I'm great, say for the whole
show. I do have to saythis one thing. People, Please keep
watching the four Once on Peacock butkeep watching the four and keep supporting because

(01:57:00):
you know, our soults can goaway in a hot second. We saw
the battle and we're gonna get thegates. I believe the Gates are gonna
take us to a whole new level. But keep watching, please, because
if we if we let these showsgo, we're never gonna get them back.
Nope. Yeah, all right,we'll see you guys two many love

(01:57:27):
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