Episode 203 T2R Soaps in Review #BoldandBeautiful #YR #GH #Days

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Blog hoste radio.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I may have killed a few people. I may have
done a few bad things. Some of my children won't
even acknowledge that I live, but I love my son.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Welcome to take too Radio. We are pleased to bring
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discussions and recaps of the four remaining daytime soaps, That's
The Bold and the Beautiful, The Young and the Restless,
General Hospital, and Days of Our Lives, as well as
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(00:46):
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Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well come, welcome, welcome, pay two Radio soaves. I am
Anthony and David will be with us a little bit
later on Tim is uh you know, still a little
bit under the weather. I am definitely here with Candace, Hey, Candy.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Pooh Hi eyboy, Hello, hello, hello.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Hello, And we were coming on the air directly. Did
we get Vinny Tiger or is it just you? And
I tell David.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Guests here, I think it's just me and you.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, you know what, it's been a couple convention season
for nonprofits. I haven't been here for a while, so
I am so glad to be back with all of
you listening, and definitely with my friend Candy. You know
how we go back and forth, and we will, like
I said, be joined by David. In a little while,
I was actually thinking about starting today's show with a

(01:55):
public service announcement. I live in Miami, Florida, some of
you may remember from listening, and there are some hot,
really hot local elections especially and what made me think
about it is you, Candice. You know there's a hot
school board election that's happening here. And so my public
service announcement is, I'm not going to ask you to

(02:16):
vote blue or red or you know, go all kinds
of purple on your ballot, but I am going to say,
check out your local candidates, do some research, find out
what they're about, especially things like schools and municipal you know,
trash collection and things that cost you in your school system,

(02:36):
if you have children, even if you don't have children,
check out these these people's platforms. Go do a little
bit of research, find out who they are, what they
stand for what they want to do, because honestly, this
is probably the most important election of our lifetime. And
whichever way you go, God bless, but at least go

(02:58):
with knowledge and town. I know that you know you
can definitely yeah, I hurt, I hear the clap. And
because you know, our schools don't get enough funding, they
don't get enough attention, and so really know who you're
putting in those positions of power.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Bending in Go ahead, girl, after that preach because I've
been saying, Look, we're also fans and we have a
lot to vent about. We have a lot to like,
you know, talk about them on social media, you know
distance fandom da da da da. Here's what I've been
saying for the last I don't know, almost like nine months.
Seriously is get your research.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
But before you do that, restis to the vote.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Like, seriously, this is the most important election of our life.
Tom and yes, to the youngins out there who was
this is gonna be your first big election. I want
you to listen to Auntie Candace's to Auntie Candas. Okay,
notice I didn't say Mama Candide because we ain't about
that that life.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
You like to drop them, you like to be done
with them by four o'clock, like seriously, but there it
was casta.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Don't follow what's being said on TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, trends,
what's up at or anything. You are smart enough, if
you are smart enough to know how to work certain
gadgets or no certain flang or no the front and
the front and back of lyrics and stuff, you need

(04:36):
to sit down and learn about these people that are
going to really make a decision in your life for
the next couple of years. You can't go out and say, well,
be mad at something where you could have actually controlled
the situation. You have a voice. Don't let anybody tell
you don't. You have a voice. If you're loud enough

(04:59):
on social media, you be loud enough at the polls. Okay, literally,
find out about your study council, find out about your marriage,
your governor, your representatives. Then go from there for who
is representing your state. Go there to obviously the big one,
you know, obviously Congress and Sentence and all that jazz,
and then you know, take a look at the Supreme

(05:20):
Court justice, then take a look at the presidency and right.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Now, yes, it is a lot going on in the world.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
But this is what I'm gonna say in all honesty.
This is just seriously again, Onto Kansas is saying us,
if you want that change, if you want to say, hey,
it's not going to be like this because I made
a difference. I went out there and voted, I did

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my research, I did this. It starts with you. Don't
let nobody tell you differently. Don't let anybody put right again,
whether you're for red, blue or in the middle, you
have the choice. You're the one that's gonna make a choice.
And and and you know I will say this, whatever

(06:13):
choice you make, I do say. I will say this
before you make that choice. Sit down, really, sit down
and think about a lot of things. Think about your health,
your health care. Think about health care. That's the number
one right, health care. Think about you know, even though
you're young, one day you're gonna get older. And there's

(06:37):
something called social security. And to the older people who
are getting ready for social security, let me ask you
a question, where your money at? I'm just saying, sit
down and think that. There's a lot of things. Think
about Willens tells, think about mentals, to think about his
number one write Anthony Evan pull my hand with this ocase,

(07:02):
think about the mental well paying for in the next
four years. Literally, think about that, because the last four years,
the last eight years, it has taken again. Wherever you
run for think about this. I think we all can
say that our mental health has skyrocketed like never before.

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So again, what we're trying to stay here at tat
Radio Anthony and Anti Kansas is do your research, register
to vote.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, go ahead, and honestly, I'm going to jump in
here and say, you know, it is extremely important to know,
you know, when you're voting for your president, when you're
voting for your senators and congress folks, it is absolutely
important to know who they are and where they stands.
But you can't blame them for the things that happen
in your look in your city, you also got to

(07:59):
pay attention and who is your mayor, what does your
mayor stand for? And all the way down to your
school board, your garbage collector. If you vote for a
dog catcher, you know, take a look and see what
he or she is all about or they are all
about both her soap opera shows. So you know, we'll
kick our soapboxes back under whatever seating we are on

(08:22):
right now, there's some news going on. What do you
what do you want to start with tonight before we
get into the regil.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I did want to start with something that just dropped
a few minutes ago.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Uh so Days for our Lives fans, Hey y'all, how
y'all doing, Hey Daves fans, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
So?

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Apparently a certain young hottie who has been on this
show before, who you guys may have you know, remembered
like a couple of years ago we were talking about
mc donald's dropped through he was going to diet, just
saying him.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
So apparently Kyle Louder.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Is in a parking lot outside of the studio in Burdbank.
I don't know, well, he looked at pretty in his car. One.
He's been doing this for a very long time. I'm

(09:21):
just gonna say that. You know, we're gearing up for
sixty For Days day six, we had tagget. I'm glad
that they have asked him to come back. And now
you guys know Kyle is now a journalist. He's a
news reporter for last I want to say Las Vegas,
like in the Las Vegas Falls Angeles area, So yeah,

(09:43):
he is. He and also he does traveling, traveling U
tips uh for various places that you can stay at,
luxury places, lovely places. But yeah, so apparently it may
be like maybe from what he's saying at three day
a arc or maybe you know, just just just a
drop then, but here's the thing we're gonna We're not

(10:04):
gonna see it until like next year. So along with
Alison Sweeney with with okay, Anthony, can I take this opportunity.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
To get on my stopbox real quick please and juniors
favorite because I've write like three different things and I
can't get any confirmation. Is it a couple of week arc?
Or is she only popping in for two days?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
I wanna be honest. I've heard conflicted information as she did.
But she said this is something that has never been
that she has never experienced before. She's excited about this storyline,
and that's all we got. Here's this thing, folks. Hi, okay, Hi,
I'm Canvas. You may know me from Takes You Radio,

(10:48):
Still Parties Forever in the Day and also running my
big mouth on Twitter. And I'm also an award winner,
see know, daves. I love you guys. I like the
PR Department, I love it. What Janet and Peacock are
doing because I feel it. So this is the most
pr Like when I say pr is, like y'all posting
on Facebook on in stuff it's shop and stuff like that.

(11:11):
You're like celebrating birthday, y'all. Y'all posted when they're doing
other projects and stuff. Here's what y'all need to stop doing.
And I understand why you did it, but at the
same time, it's frustrated. You announced Alisis Sweeney coming back,
and for a lot of us were like, thank you,
holle luria because something is the missing, especially even the

(11:33):
cold e j Great Eric's storyline and other things that
we didn't have. Sammy, Okay, we're getting Alexis Sweeney back.
Here's the same. Not until next year. Next kid, next
kid is gonna be I mean, okay, i'mlets just say this.
This year is a long way to return of Melissa

(11:55):
Reeves because our phone sold Victoria. But we know why
they're coming back. We know exactly while they're coming back,
but for next year. And I understand you want to
get people hyped, you want to get people hyped up already,
and I understand that, but it's gonna be next year,
Like I have to wait. I have to overcome summer

(12:15):
because we're still in summer. I have to prepare myself mentally, emotionally,
insensibly for when you know, when Doug who when they
purpose drugs farewell. I have to also prepare on how
y'all going to us? You're in the new the new year, right,

(12:37):
and go from there. We know in April it's wrong
Carbodies last month before Paula and Jeannie start. That's another thing,
is like yo, a whole year, Like the taping of
dangal Lives is betting ridiculous. Now, okay, But with that
being said, I understand you're getting You're trying to get
people excited, you're trying to get people hype, you're trying
to you all that. I just wish, and I don't know, Anthony,

(12:59):
if you feel this way. I kind of wish they
didn't tell me. I kind of wish that I would
turn on Days Alive on Peacock at six three in
the morning. Yes, I'm a fatheful viewer. And it's like
Dangy Sammy what Alice's tweeny returns and Sammy Brady on
dash Allies on Peacock like strow me throw me a

(13:23):
loop because when we get to it, we're gonna talk
about what show actually Dave A loops to to so
many people. But seriously, I was just I just like
I said, I'm glad that Alison's that Kyle Louder, you

(13:44):
know how I feel about him too. I'm excited. But
like I said, I wish that Daves you can you
can keep the secret. You you have to know everything
and and if.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
You need a little bit of refreshing, refresher do you know,
do't talk to your friends that the Bulls and the
Beautiful because when it comes to secret and shock value
V soap V soap that does secret and shock value
is the Buld and the Beautiful. And I'm gonna piggyback
on what Kandas is saying. You know what, honestly, you know,

(14:17):
if it's a two day, a three week arc, honestly,
it is so much more surprising and powerful to just
let them pop up on our screen one day. If
they're coming back, you know, if they're coming back on
contract and we're gonna see them for a while and
we got to wait seven months. I agree with to Kandas.
I would really like to hear it closer to if

(14:38):
not be shocked and surprised when they walk up on
the screen, you know, But if they are coming back
on contract and you want to you know, you want
to build that, you know that revitalize that sand base. Great,
I feel you, I understand it. But if it's a
small arc, play that shock value, because there is no
shock value when you know that Dick coming on on

(15:00):
February fourth, or February twenty first, or you know, we
lose an entire piece of the story by waiting all
these months. And I have to say this, Kansas, I
hope you agree with me. I think it's a couple
of these. And what I really think too, is Robin
Strausser as Vivigan. You know, we would have enjoyed that

(15:24):
storyline a whole bunch more if we didn't know it
was coming. If she had just popped up one day,
and you know, we would have enjoyed that so much more.
We had so much time to build up that expectation. Now, personally,
I love the way she portrayed Vivian, I truly did.
But I loved me some Louise, so you know, I
was torn. I think if they just threw it at us,

(15:46):
and you know it's only going to be for a
short period of time. Enjoy this arc. I would have
been a lot more invested, a lot more invested.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I agree. I agree. Plus I think for me, okay,
like good. I love the fag that you know, and
I understood why you know, Linda, Daniel and Robin did
what they did. You know, that's friendship, that's that's that's
how you do things right. But yep, it was ton
of weird seeing Robin as Vivian. It's especially when she

(16:16):
has seen for Cassidy the pile. You know what I
kept saying, I kept playing the theme songs you do
when the google when the real volgo like, we don't
have the we don't have the rights to it. So
that's I'm humming it like that. But it's like I
agree with you. I just again it's you know, and

(16:36):
I gotta give and you know when it comes to secrets,
I mean younger Russell's type of figure too. They gave
you your two a gh you're learning, You're you're getting
back into it, You're you're learning. I'm giving you a
little This is the only time you're probably gonna give
me a flaw tonight for g h you guys do
it too as well. But yeah, days, I mean again,

(16:58):
I understand you trying to you so get people hyped
and get ready. You know, right, here's what's coming up
next on the dance allis. The problem is is that
it's literally going to be like about seven what this
seven months seven eight months away from it, so and
that Toime said you need to do something starting now
to then to keep the intrigue. And that's it, because

(17:21):
it's not then I'll be like, okay, I'll guess I
always go eight fus. Oh yeah, just see Jake, I
forgot who's coming on?

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Dang em mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know I'm gonna I'm gonna take the opportunity. You
open the door. So let's let's let's jump to General
Hospital for a minute. As far as news is consigned,
I can't you know, folks know that I have ends
with General Hospital, but with so much going on behind
the scenes, they are not giving us the same kind
of scoop. And I've never broken anything wait till this day,

(17:55):
and I've been scooped a couple of times when I
promise not to say anything, but that side, I cannot
I cannot get accurate anything coming out of I am
really worried about the canvas of gh and I and
I have to say this. You know, if you're gonna

(18:18):
clean house, go look at loving. Please go look at loving,
all right. If you're gonna clean house, clean house in
a way that rocks the soul world for a long
time to come, all of this kind of banda back
and forth.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Is she isn't she?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Is?

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Else? Is he isn't he? Yet? You bring it now?
I am not, by any means saying I don't want
to see Jonathan Jackson and or Rick Hurts. Now. I
love me some Donathan Jackson, I truly do. But Rick Baby, Oh,
welcome home, Welcome home, Daddy, I got me, you know,

(19:00):
Alan Spaulding all the way all along, I got me
a love of some rep Rickhurs, you know. But you know,
but at the same time, you know, kind of clean
up what you got going on on canvas. I feel
at this point, you know, you're setting the stage for

(19:26):
you know, for the g H fin you know, the
final finale finale. Yeah, you know, at this point, I
honestly am just baffled. And I'm gonna say this very
publicly if y'all let I don't know what you're done
with her for the last seven months, she's somewhat recognizable.

(19:46):
You know, I'm gonna say this, you know, against some
posts out there, even friends of mine that are posting
she's somewhat recognizable. She's stile Ava. But if y'all let
mora West goolish, foolish.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Okay, I'll say it. Look, let me get myself together.
What I'm about to say does not reflect the views
of takes your radio, but it reflects my views. Okay, ABC,
and leave the show alone. I understand you guys have

(20:28):
a vision for General Hospital. You want to bring back
the last viewers. Here's the same when that comment was made,
you guys, was at that point, fourteen weeks like dead last,
the ratings like the for fourteen weeks the ratings fucked.
You're now down to twenty one weeks. You're about to

(20:49):
do twenty two in a few days when the ratings
come out. It's been more behind the scenes drama than
drama on the show. And I think that's the problem
is that we started the year out with Danny christ
Patrick came on, Elizabeth got bumped up, but they still
had to clean Danny Chris's mess. It wasn't until mid

(21:11):
like like managers, we started finally getting some stuff with
Patrick and Elizabeth. But then then Patrick walks. If you
follow anybody this past what was the last weekend, so
a couple of days ago, there was the Santa Barbara events,

(21:32):
which I really wish I could have went there, but
life happened. You know that there were some things that
were said. There was stuff that was put out on
social media that was not supposed to because they make
very clear to not have anything be recorded. It was
something that was said regarding the stake of you know,

(21:54):
Patrick and all that death. I will say this. You know,
we now know Chris is back at General Hospital as
co head writer, and I know a lot of people
have said some things about that. Let me just clarify
the Chris was let.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
Go because I made it.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Okay, Chris was let go. He was put there was
somebody who wanted him to come back, but there was
his emotion. However, people was still trying to get him
to be higher up than what he was, and that's

(22:36):
where the disagreement happened. And if you thought, you know,
usually when a co head writer or writers or anything,
you know, switched up or whatnot. There's a little break
in between. I like to point out that Wednesday Thursday
was chris first episode that tells you something. This was
something that was said in motions. And the thing is

(22:58):
that with General Hospital, and I'm gonna say this, as
much as I love General Hospital and y'all know, I
have a love hate relationship sometimes with the South the sixth,
the sixtieth, and so far as this year because we're
closing out sixty well, closing out the sixty, yeah, has
been worse. And there's a lot of people behind the scenes,

(23:19):
say some of you guys don't know. You guys don't know.
All you guys know is Frank val Frank Valentini, Elizabeth
Court say and so. But there's too many people behind
the scenes up up top, all the way up top
of nig Mouth, nicking Mouths Clubhouse, all the way down
that are making decisions for the show that that's either
gonna work or it's not gonna work. Now now September

(23:44):
is Agency's re okay. So General Hospital is under AGENCS reset, refocused, retools,
and some of you guys know Disney has stay it's
stafe and budget cuts, which is all of the layers
of that of that industry. And right now we do

(24:05):
know that there's some contract negotiations that has been going
on since May. That's still some some have finished out
and some are still continuing. I will say this, I
agree if they let mar go because we're watching the

(24:27):
show right now and we're seeing how everything is going
against Ava. And I think I said this earlier this
year where I said, are we gonna get a who
Killed Ava? Storyline? Yep, because back then I kept saying
something is not something is giving me the I'm gonna

(24:48):
tell you what, This gives me real quest. I mean,
we're gonna this real quest. So everybody's gonna after Ava, right,
this gives me Diane Jenkins when mar Weck was playing her,
I have to agree. Yeah, It's just it's too It's like,
so she's responsible for this, she's responsible for that, she's

(25:12):
responsible for this, she's responsible for that. And it's kind
of like again, if you if you are a person
who knows how this works, because it's usually like if
they're writing a corner of a character in the corner
and you're trying to think, how can they get out
of it?

Speaker 4 (25:27):
And then all of a sudden you hear.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Uh you know, it was such and such final episode
to that. I'm hoping they work it out. There were
some people behind the scenes who were pulling from Mars
to keep her job, I'll be honest, but.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
To keep it or to keep it to keep it yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, there's a very vocal faction and especially the daytime
execs uh, you know, there's a very vocal fashion fact
and saying, you know, we we've got Powerhouse and this
show almost secondarily runs on her shoulders. You know, if

(26:10):
you take the triad, of course, then you look the
next Powerhouse and and you know, she does have some
very vocal supporters.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yes, yes, but again, and I like to point this out,
Frank works for a b C. Frank was hired from
ABC because of budgeting and also some other things. With
that being said, though, Frank only does certain things. But again,

(26:45):
the people who own General Hospital is a b C.
Nathan Larnie overseeing a lot of a lot of decisions
that has been made. People. Let me say this too.
The writers. The writers write the script however they have to.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
They are given a lot of lines. Yep, they are
given a lot of lines that they have to stay within.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, and not only that, it has to be approved
by the exam producer and the network.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
So I just want to just want to put that
out there because I saw a lot of people saying
some things here. And also not for nothing, Yes, you
have certain actors who do not want to play certain parts,
certain certain parts of a storyline because they feel as
though it's going to ruin a fandom or also themselves.

(27:42):
If we're going to do this, we're gonna do this.
So there you got, folks. The more you know.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Absolutely you know, I'm gonna make one more statement on this,
and that is as much as I love characters like Obert,
I'm you know, glad she I'm glad she is not
being stupidly used, but you know she can pop back
up on our screen at any point. And then we

(28:08):
have characters I'm gonna be the elephant. I'm gonna be
the elephant tamer and ride this right up into the
middle of the circus. Ali, baby girl, and and you
know you old enough probably to be my mama. I
love you, I love you. I love your portrayal. But
right now, if we worried about the budget, and we
want to bring on a couple of hot button actress

(28:30):
list actresses you know, to to to, you know, create
some sizzle. I could do without the whole have a
storyline right now, as much as you love her, as
much as I love her. But wait, hold on, because
I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this on. I love Cody
and Sasha. I do, I do, I do, I do,

(28:52):
I do I do. I've loved them since the beginning.
I ain't got no more time on, no more patience
all both of them. They are not in anything that well. Okay,
Cody a little bit with the Mac King, you know Max. Okay,
I'm gonna move on again. Olivia a baby girl. Honey,
honey girl, love you, love you, love you with a

(29:13):
true and fierce storyline. I love you. There's a little
too much of you. Lois girl. They are so damn foolish.
They are so damn foolish. We saw some chemistry that worked,
and y'all can play with that. Not to mention it
is Lois, it is Rina sofur so you know, you

(29:39):
know your people more effectively, and give some people some
vacation and say when we bring you back, we're gonna
bring you back good. You know, if you're gonna clean budget,
then then clean things up or a clean house. Goang, Candidy,
I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Let me just I love lenas Sofa. I did. Y'all
know that's my girl? Like we go back, we go wait,
we go back to Rocky or loving, we go back
to your Pom Pom sitcom that Wiley Kirk popped up on.
We go back.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
We can go back, girl, hold on before you go
your your total point, before you go there. We saw
chemistry with someone, right, you do agree with me? There?
All right?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I saw something? Okay, but here but here's my here's
my problem. Okay, dah, I applaud you for reset, for
again reset and refocusing on bringing characters that we appreciated
from ninety on. Up. Here's my problem. You have her there,

(30:46):
full contract? What is she doing?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
You know what she is? Can I tell you what
she is? And not even fully rich Les, She's Tracy
from Young and the rest luss. No, go ahead, girl,
you want to say.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
This, girl, I know you listen to our show, but
this is not a dig. This is a dig in
General Hospital for doing this your ruby Oh my.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
God, yes, yes you're saying, you're saying that Lois is
got the Ruby role.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
She's she's there for the support for Brooklyn and the family.
But outside of that, what is she doing?

Speaker 6 (31:40):
Just deception things? But we don't see enough of that.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I mean, is she doing deception or is somebody else
pulling the wait for that? Because when you tell me deception,
I'm thinking Maxie, I'm thinking Lucy, I'm thinking you know
what I'm saying, Like to me, they're making more of
a point with those characters. I just don't okay to
a bad storyline because she should have she should have

(32:06):
been there for the Eddie. May you know what, I'm
gonna let a go. Can let it go?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Let her go?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Let it go?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Can she you know what, Candace, I'm gonna actually roll
that back to the middle. I actually think she was
there enough of the Eddie main storyline. I do I
that one. I actually don't fault them on. I think
they pleaded that one. It was a bad story to start,
but they kind of pulled it out of the fire
and actually gave us you know, I think she was

(32:32):
there enough. Anything else knowing Okay, So viewers, the listeners
that may not understand they were married. In real life
they are friends. They are very good friends. But Rena
said when they approached her, look, I don't want to
revisit Lois and ned in real life. They wouldn't work
in it. And I understand that too, And they had

(32:55):
their moments. So I think they did it really really
well on that space, I really do.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I think the thing that got me was, Okay, we
know that Eddie May like again, this is the writer
Dan Chris By having him in present time instead of
the time period where Eddie May was, and it would
sure be like an adjustment like or you could have
actually merged a little bit of both, like the fact that.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
He could merge a little bit of both a little more.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, right, So that's where I comment at, what's that?
But other than that, Okay, you gave me the Sonny
and Lewis you know thing. I thought that was cute.
But other than that, it's like, I don't I don't
get it.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Okay, bro, I'm gonna jump right there and say that
this is the pattern of General Hospital. And I'm going
to take the most extreme example here we go. Ready,
you would, my girl, you would hul back to General
hospital after many many years your wooed hul Back Blair
woo and you stuck her in a restaurant and all

(34:07):
of the interactions that Blair could have had in Port Charles,
you stuck her in a restaurant. Jackson Montgomery. I'm gonna
follow right back up with it. And I understand for
you for that faction of folks that don't like other
soap opera characters. Having said that, though Jackson Montgomery had
so much history with so many people, you left it.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
To a phoney a phone call. This is okay, So
let me just get talk about the Jack Montgomery same
for a second. My issue was and I'm trying to
remember and guess what it didn't happen because I don't
even have that. Tacy Quarterman, okay, for those who don't

(34:49):
know Tacy Quartermain and Jane Elliott hands down the goddess
of the Queen and everything.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
See.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
First off, she was one of the writers of Loving Murders,
which is my favorite murder storyline of all time. Absolutely,
Daisy went over because you know Morgan Fairchild, you know lived,
you know the city, so Tracy. They brought Tracy on
and Tracy was a mob mob wife. She was a
mob point sorry, Carl.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Okay, wait, I'm gonna stop you right there, just to
tell folks who never got the opportunity to see it.
Let how Eugenie Elliott was that freeing. She was everything
we wanted Morgan Fairchild to be. But they they didn't
know what to do with Morgan Fairchild. That was a shame. However, Tracy, girl,
tell me you are not with Tracy was everything on

(35:36):
that show.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Tracy was everything and more. But the thing is that
Jackson Montgomery and Tracy knew each other.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
This is where Canns has to be the historian of this.
I was so pumped to see Jackson Montgomery on General
Hospital for so many reasons. But I was like, oh
my god, we're gonna get Tracy and Jackson. Oh my god.
And I understand people, and again I agree because to me,
all right, as a ABC viewer, okay, just like a

(36:07):
CBS viewer, I missed all my children, I miss one
like to live, I missed the city, I miss all that.
The fact that General Hospital has become and and I'm sorry,
General Hospital, you have become the show. You are the
hybrid of ABC soap, meaning that every soap has been
recognized on General Hospital Chasing Girls, Right, that's what I'm saying.

(36:36):
I know the actress that's that was forever to day
Ilean Christians, thank you, but but no, like you have
Ryan Tolpe being represented, right, you have Land View, you.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Have the Dead that we.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Also did. They also kind of shaved a little bit.
They didn't do it. It's not yep, thank you asking,
but they did. They did that. And of course dark
Shadows and Portoles because you know, Portarle' ain't a real fan.
But the thing is is, like, you have all of this,
but at the same time, it's great. Let me just
say this, it was great to see what really back

(37:17):
on my friend. It was great to see Cassy the
Pivera wearing her Blair shoes. It was great to see Corners, Pennsylvania,
the Adla mansion. It was great that you know, they
talked about Tracey says back then. It was great to
do all that. But you know what the problem is
is that you can do all of that, but you're
so still sucks. The story is not. And look and

(37:37):
I've fought in a lot of people for the I'm
fought in a lot of people for this, but yeah,
to me to me right now, General Hospital. You're kind
of in a very hot level of heat right now,
and I need me personally. Candice, who also always has
her divorced papers on standby here. September is your season premiere.

(38:04):
That's what they even though the show, you know, Son
and April, but you know what I'm saying, I feel,
I feel it's so okay, Elizabeth Cassy. Oh yeah, they
got an associate co head writer. You're gonna keep watching this.
And then you got Chris.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Chris has had his uh Heather storyline that was him
Alan Mills.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
To find that you have three people now and you
got it's not even a is okay. Let me just
say that.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I said, let me, let me, let me clean us
up for you if you and if you don't agree,
here's the thing. You got your people in place, and
you know what's not working. Most of it. You know
it's not working, and you got your people in place.
We need you to tie everything together and everything up,

(39:04):
and you need to pepper in what the next really good?
Almost everything on this canvas kind of needs to be
tied up and done and move on almost and you
need to set us up with something that is going
to really intrigue us and keep us going. You brought
in Rick. Oh God, please have a plan, because a

(39:26):
the actor can carry it be. The history is there,
see Rick, I love you, love you, love you. Ric
I do, I do, I do. Rick would have been
the one that I brought back, at least not right
at this moment. But I can see where you can
make where this soap opera can make things happen with
this character, with the state of things that are happening.
Now wrap it up and open something else up. Look

(39:49):
his deal real quick too. Also, Maurice, if you've made
that decision, let us know that one. Let us know.
We don't need a surprise for that one. You can
let us know because a lot of this doesn't make sense. Okay,
I'm gonna leave that alone. I want to, also, real quick,
highlight two characters that you have done. I'll talk about Anildo,

(40:15):
you know. I want to talk about Annilda. I want
to highlight two characters though, that you have done. What
oh oh, what everybody wanted? First and foremost, Miss Maxie,
thank you for making her Maxinista again. You figure you
all hear me? She was Maxinesta. Okay, I forgive it

(40:41):
all I forgive it all. Thank you for making her
maxinsa and thank you for actually giving her the confidence
that she had that you, I don't know, I'll forgot
got hit on the head with it. I have a
brain to uma Natchala. Thank you for giving her that back. Now,
the second character, Oh, I want to get on my
knees and I want to send my hands out in

(41:03):
like a yoga pose and go all the way down
and bow. The second character, please do whatever you need
to do, make a boggain with Satan if you have
to do. Not let Jane Elliot leave our show ever again,
ever again, and do not stop this arc that you
are on. You have created a completely human character. She

(41:28):
is everything. She is everything, Jane Elliott, if you ever
happen to listen to this girl, you a goddess. She
is everything, and you actually write for her. So well,
okay almost so well. There are a couple of things,
but I'm not even gonna get into them, Candace. I'm
throwing it back to you now.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
I agree with you about Tracy because to me, Tracy
is full circle. She is Okay, he was always Edward's daughter,
but now sees Lilah's daughter like she's still she still
has a little bit of that edwardness in her, but
was actually a SKay Settle hospital. It's me, huh, my

(42:10):
biggest issue. And I'm gonna say, y'all shouldn't have let
Patrick go because I saw something with him that I
was like, really, I was so invested with and he's
the same Chris Well. It's not even that I noticed
that we were that we were getting stamped. Okay, not

(42:32):
all the way, but I started to feel like the
quartermain was a unit again. And and this goes to Jason.
I never thought Jason would be so quartermain heavy when
he when okay, first in him showing up to the wedding,

(42:56):
him showing up to the wedding, that that was like
a because again, and I'm gonna say this for the
people out there, to me, the character of Jason is
a complex is a very complex character to write for,
no matter how long you've been on the show or

(43:17):
if you you know, if you're a new writer. He's
a very like there's so many things you can play with, right,
But I have never really understood why we couldn't really
remerge him into the family. Yes, he's been there for
like you know, if something happens and whatnot, but for
like joyous occasions and for it to be natural. I

(43:40):
was like, oh, okay, let me get used to this.
This is where I was getting. I was getting my
wish about Jason kind of being humanized a little bit
instead of so hold oh cool, like I'm gonna say
this Patrick. For the I who don't know Patrick's in writing,

(44:02):
the one thing he said was, actually, you know the
character that he really couldn't write for because of sadly,
because it's been so many layers. It's funny and there's
a reason for that, and I totally understand that. But
Patrick does this thing where he does more dialogue than action.
He goes ahead and connects. So that way, that's the story,

(44:23):
because he has to say, you're not going to tell
me that again when you look at the Quartermain's right.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Okay, look Alan Tandas let me jump in here first second.
Try to explain this for David. David think about it
that way, right, Yep, debraun basically BJ for those episodes, right,
that was all Dan Dan, Yeah, that was all Dan.

(44:51):
That was all Dan. Dan follows the magic. I don't
know what how else to call it. But Dan knows
where where the moments are going to come from. And
Dan's not looking for the shock value. If it works
as shock value, he'll absolutely do it and use it.
But he uses all the other spaces of human emotion

(45:12):
for connection. That's that's his writing style.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
And not only that, but Elizabeth, you know, she was
a scriptwriter, a scriptwriter, and and I had told this
question she some of my friends is you know, I
see a lot of people saying, you know, Elizabeth abc DFG. Yes,
she's been there for thirty years, but keep in mind, folks,
she's not the story to assaulted. If we're going to

(45:41):
do this, let's do it. Yes, she's been there to
see certain things happen, but she was never given the
platform until what was in two thousand and one where
her and Michelle Vaughan Jean was co head writers. And
then guess what happened? They got you know, by choice,
by by whatnot. They wasn't co head writers anymore. They
went back.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
That's what I heard.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Honestly, when you when you think about the storylines that
they were responsible for, the writing was on the wall.
You know, they were given their opportunity and and it
didn't there were some good stuff, not a lot, but
there was some good stuff during their tenure. But their arcs,
Oh my god, what you know, they failed epically. You know,

(46:28):
that was the first round of of what's his name? Uh? Who,
oh my god, Candas, why is my brain doing this?
The first round of bad way? What's his name?

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, no, thank you?

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, you know, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
You know, when when you realized what you had in
that storyline and then you look back, we all we
all say it, and you look at you know, the
actress and actresses that you had playing the parts, the
history that was there, and then what ended up coming
of it. It was no surprise. And and she's okay, I'm.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Oh, go ahead, go aheadton.

Speaker 7 (47:20):
She's more ambitious in in the it's not alternative, but
they the experimenting than what the soap opera audience is
willing to take.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
And and and this is where I want to jump
on this is that Elizabeth was there for Port Charles.
And you know, a lot of people have been talking
about Port Charles lately, apparently this is a you know,
new thing here is that you take them look at
the structure of Port Charles. And when I say the
structure I'm talking about. Yes, when they reset the show
and they came what I used to call Baywatch Night

(47:57):
because because you know, you have vampires.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Candas, what they really were this I have to jump in.
I hear you what they watched nights and I know
while you'll go there, but I also am a fan
of Telenovella's. Was they became was a soap opera trying
to be a telenovella and they could They could have
done it, and they had like three different places where
they were almost there. Okay, continue it was.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Here's the thing too, but you also gotta remember they
had the blessing of the network. This is where can
it's like to point out that it was okay, like
it wasn't heavy with network intersperence, but I think it
was wasn't anti was it was antie oder anything I
forgot because it definitely wasn't going wrong. We'll get to

(48:47):
you in justice second, sir. But the thing is is
that you know they got the network because it wasn't rough.
It was a real gamble to go ahead and do
these arts and play by arison. But again, Elizabeth and
some of the people that you guys, you know, not
you know, if you feel that you know, you do it,
you do it attack right. It was great, but some

(49:11):
of the things, like I'm seeing it is like I said,
like when did everybody start saying stuff about Elizabeth? And
everybody said in the recent months, and I'm like, okay,
this woman's been on the show for thirty years. It
wasn't until it was broadcast that you know, people started
knowing stuff, right, And then it's like again, because I'm
going to kind of tie it all in here is

(49:32):
General Hospital. You do need to do better. And again,
I know a lot of fans wished for a certain
somebody to return to General Hospital to make the show
pop and lock and everything else. If you can't have Patrick,
who was your next to you, guys, mister Robert Dooza,
Well yeah, right now, anything you want to do this

(49:57):
was or you want me to do it because I
can do it.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I can want to Let's go for it.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna
give you the second person. I'll give you the second
person and then you go through that one. Okay, it
is with great honor. Wait, hold on, let me do
my like intimate portrait portrait post sold on. It's a
great arnor that we share the update with the Gates.
A new soap coming on CBS Daytime in January, produced

(50:25):
and created by Emmy Award winner Soak the Legend Michault
launching by the way, Jag and a Fat Man might
be coming out for streaming, which was her first job
in writing. The show will well a family in the
gated area of Maryland, Marylands your not California, not Texas

(50:51):
to Maryland and the DC area. You know this guy
side of the right, Okay, Captain Paul has gone out
regarding for characters. However, it's also going to be getting
well funded, not only just by Proctor and Gamble, but
others as well. As the time though we will give
you that information. However, it was it was the news
that Rockers rocked everybody's world on with this line. Michelle

(51:15):
is gonna have some help and he's gonna have Kipple helpers.
Who's also going to be an executive producer. One is
Soap Legend Evy Award winner mister Robert bade Duza. The
other person is Anthony, who is the second person that's

(51:38):
gonna also danced.

Speaker 6 (51:45):
Julie Cannon Carruthers.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, now go ahead, girl, let me just stop right there. Okay,
so think about like Dynasty Dallas uh, not landing, right,
just think about that universe for a second. Right, This
is Alexis Colby j R. Ewing. You know, let's let's

(52:13):
go with what Michelle what was her name?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Van Valen Gary.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Like like we we we this is the soap opera
dream team. This is no no, I'm sorry just a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
I'm gonna say this right now and thinking of not Landing.
You may or may not have heard. You guys got
told tomorrow it's gonna be a streaming not landings fans,
we won one no where where what where?

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Where?

Speaker 6 (52:46):
I knew that, but I don't know what channel?

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Okay, living so let me so let me so wait
wait wait, hold on, okay, real quick subject say note
not laying the fans.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Listen to Auntie Candace. It was announced last week.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
If you have the app test, c l e X
was already had Stopping Crust. Yeah, plas you already have
Stopping Crust on it. Starting tomorrow, not Landing will be streaming.
We won, we won it.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
I don't know how I missed that. I don't have
me some flex right now, but I'm gonna be flexing
it tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Yeah plas, yeah, class.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
So any anyone who has followed this show for the
almost six years, oh my god, it's been almost six years,
y'all know. I love me Melrolle's Place, I love me
Desperate Housewives, I love me Dynasty, I love me falcon Craft.
But my show, my show was was not landing. I
am happy and page and great and.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I can't wait to go back to the could back.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
All right, but but.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Well let me just say that's your question. So there's
a w B that so they're going to create a
This is the kickoff to the WB SOPE prime time
Dope network, So for all we know, is not landing.
But also on this channel, it's sopping cluss as well,
So you can get your CBS Thursday Friday nights back back, guys,

(54:28):
don't be afraid.

Speaker 6 (54:30):
I have and now back now back to the Gates News.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Continue, Anthony, how did you feel when you've heard about this,
said the dream thing?

Speaker 4 (54:42):
How did you totally feel about it?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Do you have high hope? What is it?

Speaker 2 (54:46):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
What are your dreams? What are your goals.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
So I don't think that I represent the fandom, so
to speak, because I actually look at it like this,
there's a lot of there's a fifty to fifty split
with Bob Guza. I happened. I happen to be a
Bob Guza fan, and you know, I recognize the shortcomings

(55:15):
and I recognize the wrong decisions, but I'm a Bob
Guza fan, So I'm going to go there first. What
I what I really am hoping that this soap opera
does is come out of the box and say, you
know what, soap operas have not changed their basic premise
for the last forty years. You know, they tweaked it.

(55:37):
You know, all my children when they went live and
all that cool stuff. Poor Charles with the telenovela. But
basically speaking, we still tell stories the same way. What
I what I what I believe in my core that
this team is going to do, is find a way
to present to us still telling stories in the same way,
but modernizing it and taking it into the world we

(55:59):
live in. And nobody. I don't know a single person.
I don't think either one of you know a single
person that you walk up into their you know, you
go past their foyer and you go into their drawing
room or their actual formal paula, and there's a bark
hard with a crystal to canda with a stop for
the whole nine yards, and there's a bucket with ices
and ice that's really used for the drinks. Nobody, but

(56:22):
nobody been up in that Paula for like eight hours
that we know of, But there's a bucket ice that
is viable to make a drink. Having said that, but
I digress sometimes, as we all know, But I'm trying
to make it like a little bit of a point.
I think this is going to come out of the gates. Yes,
I'm planning intentionally, it is going to come out of

(56:43):
the gates with the two thy twenties into thirties way
of soap opera storytelling. I do really firmly believe that
they are going to present storytelling in to merge nighttime
soap opera and daytime soap opera in a way that

(57:03):
we're all fascinated. That's what I truly believe, Candice, are
we gonna throw it to David? David, what are you feeling, baby?

Speaker 6 (57:13):
I am really looking forward to January. I can now
wait to see what comes out of the gate, so
to speak. I'm just really excited and I'm keeping my
fingers crossed because I want I want a winner, and

(57:35):
maybe the others can take notice.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Okay, lood Blood here our press, Canda.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
I'm gonna say this, kids, Okay, I'm gonna be completely
more hunted about this. If day, if all the soaps
so Young Days, Yates gets better after the Gates premieres,
I'm gonna have an issue because to me, you should
already been better before there was even a gate thought

(58:05):
of I feel it though, like, Okay, everybody has gotten comfortable.
I think I said this before. We were comfortable because
you know, and when I say wead not only the
fans but also those at the shows got comfortable because
there was no quote unquote real competition. Everybody was sorted

(58:25):
in there kumbaya, meaning that CBS has two soaps Days,
I mean, Dave's on Peacock and you know, ABC got
General Hospital. It's not like it was literally what ten
years ago, even we'll go there with twenty oh my god,
almost twenty.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
But then the industry decided to throw something at the
soap opera world in the form of hello the Bay.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Well not even well not even in the Bay for I'm.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
But think about it.

Speaker 6 (58:54):
Think about it first time you're thrown far away?

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Oh can you hear me?

Speaker 6 (59:01):
Yeah? You're better?

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Okay, all right, we think about it first second, Candice.
Once the introduced the Bay into competition, it really did
reset the way we had to think about storytelling and
what the audience was looking for.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
I will even give one, I will even give you
one better. And we just we just saw we just
witnessed this a couple of months ago when the Daytime
Emmy's was announced for Best Drama Series. Now, I'm gonna
take this opportunity right now to say I was not
mad at of this decision. Okay, Nix cleared the Bay. Okay,

(59:44):
that's just like when you did Beyond Salem. Okay again
the day some people know where to watch this, some
people are invested, intrigued, right, Okay? His was shook the
heck out of the soap industry. And I'm Anthony David.
Y'all know one about to say when they got when
they included neighbors, Ye what that was that? It was

(01:00:09):
like where the man hold up? Not only are we
dealing with a streaming soap opera to the streaming so propera.
But do you mean to tell me a soapropera that
just came back from cancelation to get onto a streaming
so Yes, Neighbors was canceled, y'all, and Amazon board it
back with that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
To me, by the way, Princess of Pop was very
instrumental in that decision.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
But God, yes, and Margot Robbie who she got an
OST nomination for Barbie and I'm still mad about you
know what. That's another show for another time. But to me,
that shook that should have shook them all up. Now
we got the gates and I'm gonna tell you something
except more shocking news from the dates. I don't know

(01:00:56):
as I'm just science.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Well, I'm gonna say this, Candace, I do know something
and I'm not allowed to talk about it right now,
and I'm gonna say I'm gonna say when people knows
about it, people's everybody's gonna be lying up one of
the gates.

Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
When you have something and you can't share it, well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
People, oh my god, you know what it does inside.
I got Ulsa's, David, I have Ulsa's because I got
a couple of things on General Hospital and a couple
of things on the Gates that I cannot talk about.
But oh god, and I know Kansas knows exactly what
I'm talking about to I know something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
About the Gates that I don't think Anthony knows. Oh yeah,
I'm sorry, baby, but no. But here's the thing about
the Gate's Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
No, no, not real quick. Let's talk in code for
a second. Is it about a CBS connection from way
way wait wait wait wait wait, way way back?

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Not only that, but another thing we know, no know
what I'm saying too. It's not only that, but it's
another connection that you know very well, that I know
very well that everybody. Yeah, okay, we'll talk later.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I thought, I thought, thanks you, Candice. You just confirmed
for me something that nobody else has answered me on.
I thought, so, all right, and let.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Me let me just say this real quick, real quick,
before we get to David, because I know some people
are gonna gonna swirl this. The thing is is that
some of some of us know certain things and we
are sworn to not tell everybody because right because the
two reasons if this leaks out and you know how

(01:02:51):
everybody does this well, who told you David two things
can happen. Sadly, this is the reality. David Kickings can
get sued.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
By the show.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
For leaking out information and we don't want that. And
also things things are subjects to change. But they also
don't want to know. You're probably saying, well, why do
you guys know so much? And everything? There's something called
trust yep and it literally like took years for us

(01:03:25):
to get this kind of trust and so unfortunately, like yes,
it's like it's it's all funny games for me and
Anthony do it, but we do recognize the fact that
you know you as a listener, you guys are like, well, Beck,
I wish they would just say something and everything else
like that, trust me, it's better to it's better to
wait because you're gonna have probably the same You probably

(01:03:46):
have a bigger reaction than I did, well the second
one and whatnot. But we just want I just wanted
to say that because I know a lot of people
are just saying like how some everybody like so so
hush hush about certain things. Why don't you know by
saying ABCDFG. So I just wanted to say that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
No, and absolutely I'm gonna jump. I'm going to actually
piggyback on that canvas. For everybody listening out there, I
promise you this is not keep coming back to take
to radio SOPs, etcetera, et cetera. Candace forged her way
through and it's now writing a prominent soap opera that
is recognized as the soap opera I came from. Before

(01:04:26):
I lost my eyesight, I was the East Coast entertainment
editor for the Associated Press. So the stuff that I'm given,
the access that I'm given, if I betrayed, I'm not
in that business right now. I don't you know. I
work as a freelance I'm not with the Associated Press anymore,
but those relationships still exist. If I betray that trust,

(01:04:51):
I'm never given access again. But also what Kansas City
is also very valid, because what Kansas and I get
in you know, inkling of or or whispers of or
even point by point platlines, et cetera, et cetera, it
can change. And by the time you know, candas you must,

(01:05:11):
you must be biting the inside of your cheek at
times about the differences of what the Jason Morgan Return
was supposed to be and all the information that came
out over a couple of month period. Because I'm gonna
say this because it won't get me in trouble. Everyone
knows this. There was a point in time when Jason

(01:05:32):
was going to come back as Jason Quartermain why personally,
I personally loved that idea. I jumped into There's so
much they could do with this if he actually comes
back knowing all the things he did as Jason Morgan
but you know, basically he's Jason Quartermain Again. I would

(01:05:52):
have loved that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
But you know that was that was then that would
have been that would have been the ultimate story, like
the story art of Again. For so many years we've
been saying, what if Jason, you know, because literally Jason's
brain is more scrambled than scrambled eggies. Okay, so the
fact that you had for Hanata, well that's true. The

(01:06:18):
fact that it makes makes no sense about the mind mapping,
but that's just another story for another day. But the
thing is is that the closest we kind of started
getting to was with Grit right, and then they kind
of read you know, go back and stuff, and it
was a promise that it was a promising storyline. It
was it was a story Bible. They had a Bible.

(01:06:38):
Let me clarify them. They had the Bible, meaning they
had the whole story art, how it was gonna fact
certain characters on canvas. It's just some of the execution
of the story. You're gonna stop and you know, a
man as the network.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Said, no girl, no, no, no, no, no girl, I'm
gonna stop you right there. Because yes, they had the
Bible and they had how it was gonna it was
gonna infiltrate the entire canvas Harris, and then they decided
to play with that Bible and test other chemistries and
in that space decisions had to be made for people

(01:07:17):
for their own livelihoods and careers. They the boat got missed.
Woo woo, be deep. We in the harbor were going
out to the ocean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
By it's not even that. It's my heart will go
on Titanic here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Alright, okay, canvas, let me ask you a question real quick,
because you brought in Titanic. I gotta ask you this.
I'm in the camp. They could have both fit on
that door. Uh uh. And she doesn't talked him, writing
Jack Jack, Oh you did okay?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Did did come get me?

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
And he was looking to the bottom of the ocean.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
You are look, I'm gonna try. I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
No wait, they told you even be honest on that.
I'm gonna give you one more to play with too.
That old lady too, I would have pushed that bench
off back of the boat. He said, don't go back.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
You'll see all honestly.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
When she did that, I remember saying this in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
See this.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
To be honest, I said, I'm going after that. I
don't care if I'm not on the boat anymore. I'm
gonna swim to land. I'm gonna find somebody just take
me up. I will find the greens. I will find
something to carry me to the shore so I can
go to the pawn shop and pay. Gotta get some money,
or I just you know, wait so you know. Yeah.

(01:08:42):
But as far as sitting on the boat, yeah, they
can both sit on there. He just was being selfish.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
She was like this, She's like, they couldn't both sit
on that door. Check check out liver, look go oh
see see conco. All right, David, I'm gonna throw this
to you. I think we're you know, we we we've

(01:09:10):
talked a lot about news and conjecture and stuff, but
we got to get into the recaps itself. And I
think you are probably dying to talk about the Bulls
and the Beautiful, So David, tell us what's been happening
over the last week or so on the Bulls and
the Beautiful.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
Well, there have been two so called deaths El Giardino.
One was Tom Star and now there is Hollis. And
miss Sheila was the first one called in the question
mm hmm, and she was let go. So there right now,

(01:09:53):
it's top in the air. But miss uh kt Fletcher,
as this Daphney calls her, has been trying to piece together.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Everything real quick. I love me some Daphney, but go ahead,
right yeah, I love Daphne.

Speaker 6 (01:10:18):
Oh girl, thank.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
You, thank you for being sassy stupid. Go ahead, David,
But you know what I'm saying, right she is such
a breath of fresh air.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
So we're trying. They're trying to nail Pappy for both
of those murders, and r j's big mouth has to follow.
R J's big mouth makes his way over to Katie
and tells Katie about it. Katie calls the police, and

(01:10:55):
my first line of thinking is r j has what
they call diarya of the mouse. I can't believe that
he would just drop that like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
That, rolling up he would he was going into his
backpack and throwing all the evidence. Sorry, David, I had
to go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:11:21):
It's okay, but he is I meant, I mean, So
that's what's going on there. In the meantime, Brook's bedroom
is being over in Monaco. She's getting good pr and
Hope not riding her high horse rubbing it in Steppee's nose.

(01:11:47):
And that's about And I know, here's the one thing
I don't get. And I'm not really for this because
this is Hope out of character. She she is supposed
to be really not like Brooke, but she's taken more
after I don't see why she wants to go after

(01:12:09):
a man who doesn't want her.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Okay, I got two things to say real quick. I
am so, so, so so happy about Brooke. I don't
care what anyone else says. Go for a girl. After
all you've been through through the last couple of years.
You go for a girl. Uh all right, Hope, honey.

(01:12:39):
No one elected you the supreme court justice of everyone
in your life, and yet you are supposed to be
like the mirror of everyone's moral choices, except no one
elected you to that position. Girl, take it back a
couple of notches, and everyone listening to this podcast should

(01:13:02):
know that I am very much a Hope fan. But
girls stop, Girls stop, Candice. Oh wait, I gotta say
one more thing. I'm sorry. I am so willing to
suspend everything. Can you hear me now, David?

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
You might have to hang out the call back.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
No, let me see all right, I'm gonna say this.
I am so How do I say that? I am
so in the willing to suspend belief of soap opera
fans that we're supposed to be. I like Sila, I
love Sheila, I worshiped Shila. I have been a Shila's disciple.

(01:13:57):
I don't want to let that go. So you know
I'm not entirely happy with how you're doing it right now,
but please continue to u A give me those nuggets
to play with. On the other side of it, you
have to define who these people are. You can't let

(01:14:20):
this linger for too much longer. There's six people that
need to be defined. Then they need to be defined
at some point very soon. You've got to set up
who these people are and who they want to be
going forward. Can't just take it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Okay? So all right, so that's a lot that's going
on here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I mean you're not.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
All right, but you have a different take on it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
No, okay, okay, so let me okay, Hope, let me
do this with Hope real quick. I can't. So we
went we we we was, we were going straight okay,
we was going straight down this road, right, yeah, then
all of a sudden we made a quick lust and

(01:15:14):
we lost our way and we need mad quest.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
Y'all remember that question?

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
And that was a hard left for us. We didn't
know where we was anymore because I was like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
And I'm gonna have to use what you know what, Daphne,
you know we're still party side and I'm saying, is that?
And I think a lot of us start this too.
It's like, okay, you're fantasizing about sense. Okay, and you
know we knew that. Thomas. By the way, congratulations to
Matthew Agerson and him and his wife were having a baby,

(01:15:45):
like what November? I told them November and it's a
baby boy. They announced it yesterday. They're having a baby boy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Okay, God, we love you. By the way, you crazy faster,
We love you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
He's really funny too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
But the thing is is that's why I know I
can say that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Go ahead, girl, he's a dork in a half a
cuarious henna s guy cliffs and do not have them
in the same room to gotta sus trust the beliefs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Don't do it, gonna get a word in edgewise.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Uhuh, that's because you've done my anyway. So she has
to say, okay, you it's like you have Hope fantasised
about fit At the same time, though, is it because
she's plotting to get back at Steffie because she feels

(01:16:37):
though stuffy and inserted herself in Thomas and Hope's relationships.
Why can't Hope make Stuffie feel like, Hey, wait a minute,
you know what you keep damn playing me. I'm going
to do something that you don't be coming. I'm going
to try to seduce your husband.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
I'm gonna take the opposite projection of that for a second,
from the same from the same space that you're coming from.
There is the other side of it to say, this
person is my ally, this person understands where I am
in this situation because where both secondary characters are in

(01:17:21):
a way in the main storyline of these other people, right,
so it is the perfect storm. I don't fall both
in the beautiful for going here campus. You know this,
I've been saying for like eighteen months, No, not eighteen months,
but I've been saying for lots and lots and lots
of shows. This is where they we're gonna go with this,

(01:17:44):
and it is perfectly set up. I have to say,
I am so happily invested in this piece of it.
So you want to help with Ben, I don't know, honestly,
right at this moment, I actually I can't tell you
yes or no. But I like the fact that they

(01:18:06):
that they did this though you know, basically they're only
up to the fact that they're the triangle soap opera.
They built their entire storylines around the triangles, and this
was a triangle that everybody was interested in seeing what
would happen if you went there, And honestly, I didn't
want them to go here because it was expected. Except now,

(01:18:30):
looky here, I'm actually into it. I kind of I'm
really really into it right now? Can this? I think
you differ with me on this opinion, But at least
can you at least tell me that you know that
it hit what people were looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
I mean, I think where it's hit with the people.
I think for me, I wish Okay, understand that Hope
and STEFFI are literally broken Taylor, right, Okay, I just
was hoping that the curse would have been broken. When

(01:19:12):
I mean that, it's like, Okay, you got Sin and
after today, you know he says some bounties and stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Well, Hope. At the same time, I'm like, wait, but
hold up, Candace Dave dingled the curse has been broken
to us over the last like eight years. I'm going
back to Hope was who was the other Hope?

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Oh Kim Kim McCall.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
But they basically don't but think about the canvas they
gave us that the curse was broken. They both understood
what their parents had gone through. They didn't want to.
They gave us that storyline we had that when was
hold like with with.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Sin finish stuff because Sin loved Stephie fully.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Like that's why I opened the show the way I
did today. Absolutely, that's your mama right, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
To me, that is like Finn loves Steffie and this
is the first time I'm sorry to be Steffie Williams fandom,
but you know I'm not lying when I say this.
I feel secure with this relationship in a way that again, look,
the old you just be the obstacles of feeling like

(01:20:29):
I mean, you know what I meant by that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
But to me, man, you got.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Hope, and it's like, Okay, I don't know. I just
I'm kind of confused on this and I'm going to
need some clarity. I'm going to need somebody to set
me down like a five year old and say, Candace,
this is what we're doing with Hope, because to me,
it's like, okay, you had time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Second, right, hold up? Days given Hope. I'm going to
liken it to Elizabeth on General Hospital. They put Hope
in that position where she's been so many different kinds
of voices. Now we don't trust the voice that comes
out of her because we don't know which side of
Hope it's coming out of, where as you know a

(01:21:20):
couple of years ago, and this is not about the
actress playing the role. It's about the writer's writing it
the way they do. But the other Hope that we're
used to always had basically one platform, one way of thinking,
and so we're kind of confused at this point as
to who and what Hope really is. We don't know

(01:21:44):
who this character really is, and they brought us through
so much heart wrenching, heartbreaking. You know, we're invested in
the character, but we still actually don't know who she
really is, and that is kind of becoming a problem
at this point.

Speaker 6 (01:22:03):
I'm yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Let's jump over to Genoa City Girl, this is always
your show. Oh there is one thing way, Oh my god, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Can I can I do the voice? Can I do
the voice?

Speaker 6 (01:22:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Do it? Do do do it? Okay. So this week,
on the last week on the Bone a beautiful, the
role of doctor Taylor Hayes Porter is now being playby
That's the Barty. Hi, Hi, Stephie. It's mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, mom, Yes,
mother is coming home. Dear lady God, Oh no, that's wrong,

(01:22:46):
that's wrong mother.

Speaker 6 (01:22:47):
Oh guys, oh guys, we have.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Yeah, hold that qala for just one second because I
have to say it. Chaill okay, to hold yourself, Kansas.
I fell off the chair, I said, oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Oh oh oh I okay, I can't let me just
preference this right now, some of us knew that they
were recapping Taylor.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
It was actually posted well I must email wait.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
For okay, so apparently okay, honestly I did not know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
I did not know. Maybe I missed that email. Maybe
I I accidentally deleted it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
I just not No, I went what that pretend? Can say? Nothing?
Just now? So anyway, so then the promo came out
and you know, you spotted a warm and looking It
was like, okay, now there's three three options they could do.
But when they pulled up and said that just and

(01:24:08):
when I saw Rebecca first and foremost, I was like,
damn you Vold and Beautiful for keeping a damn cigarette
like this again, this is how you do it. I
was like, for those on social media that is watching
this in real time, this is about to blow up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
If you're all my children fans who watches Both and Beautiful,
you probably was like, say what what what.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
If you are.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
It's well, no, sirs, and Rebecca you know, but you
know her tenure on General Hospital. You ain't the right
hand color, you ain't the right Let me just say this.
Let me say this because I did see a lot
of people saying about the age. And I want to
point this out, Kristah Allen was forty nine versus Becken

(01:25:10):
who sixty one.

Speaker 6 (01:25:12):
She was forty she got the role.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Yeah, Krista was forty nine.

Speaker 6 (01:25:17):
Yeah, oh okay, so.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
That's why, like to me, okay, I'm gonna say, when you.

Speaker 6 (01:25:24):
Look at it, I thought she was fifty one when
she got the role too, So.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Hold them, I'm gonna be the one that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
I'm not really and ultimately not about the age of actresses, etcetera, etcetera,
to play role. Having said that, dope, Greenley Hayden, Michelle Bauer,
Michelle Honestly, it wasn't horrible. It was not a bad

(01:25:57):
performance at all, except I just kept thinking to myself,
you know, something is not as like the objects in
the rear view mirror. Something. This is not exactly right.

Speaker 6 (01:26:09):
But I love her.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
I love her, I do you know. And Chris Ellen too,
I did. I loved I'm sorry, I'm gonna say it.
Christ to Ellen was never truly tailored for me. She
was like, she was like, what was that trick's name?
She went to Laura in order she was the Dixie.
Then she wasn't Ditch.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Yeah, I love her. I did. I loved her for
every single thing she played, but thank god she truly
ended up not being Dixie because I didn't love her
as Dixie. I was like, what is this? And that's
kind of how I feel. I love Krista Ellen, and
I loved her playing the role, but I was always like,
at some point, you know we're gonna get you know,

(01:26:55):
we're gonna we're gonna get her back. We're gonna get
like the real tailor bag and and we're gonna love
it because it's a soap opera and then we're back.
Then I was like, oh no, there's something work, but
I still like it anyway. It really doesn't work, but
I like it all right.

Speaker 6 (01:27:14):
She's so that's the big thing around them that's been
uh on the internet.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
John, It's gonna be like the way I thought is
with Backy. She obviously she has love okay her and
Kathay Kelly Lane. I'm gonna need to see more. I'm
gonna need to see I'm actually gonna need to see
a little bit more from Thorston and her, given the
fact that they kind of played over at all my children.

(01:27:42):
But here's the thing, just because you had previous either
the previous chemistry or no chemistry on another show doesn't
mean it's gonna work. You're not Stephen Nichols and Mary
both Adams.

Speaker 6 (01:27:53):
So okay, Goldland said about when.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Children. Yeah, it has happened before and it has not worked.
But I don't know. I gotta say it. She actually
got me, David? Did she get you?

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
I'm miss out what?

Speaker 6 (01:28:21):
Yeah, I wish Taylor was surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
I was, But did she get you? Do you? Are
you looking at her as Taylor, as the or as
the imposter playing tailor right now on our screen?

Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
I need more time, Anthony. I just saw a glimpse
and that was it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
I honestly, you know, those those three minutes she got me.
I'm actually into it, Kansas, what about you?

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
I'm still I'm sort of like the truck Like, how
was the truck? Stay? John? I just see her being
massy and looking and ridd some some some stuff. But
as your mother, I'm gonna want to more more. I'm
gonna I need more.

Speaker 6 (01:29:09):
I want to see I want to see her rise
above that dreaded triangle because.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Thank you, you know, some kids old. Yeah, and just
because it's a new actress, playing the part. We're all
over it. Yeah, all right, but we have to now
we really really have to do in, Candas it's your show.
But I gotta say, Candace, I'm in I'm in the
fun house. The mirror like that mirror thing that you

(01:29:41):
go through and nothing appears exactly what it is if
you look at it in the mirror kind of thing.
The girl, catch us up on the catch us up
on the Young and the Restless die When are Young
and the Restless?

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
We have Billy acting like a douchebag but regarding Avid Chancellor,
even though it's not his company, he's acting like it
is his company. And Lily is not gonna let Billy
take this company down. So she said, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Either you or me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
But baby, I'm not going We got that going on.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
But don't feel bad.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
Don't feel bad because Billy got some you know, some
other business attentions. So why are you trying to figure
out what Chelsea is hiding because it seems like Chelsea
is hiding something. Um, well, we all know Chelsea and
Adam have that's in Baltimore, because you know, big going
happened in Baltimore.

Speaker 6 (01:30:35):
Everything happened in Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Everything happened, but coming in January, the gates set in Maryland.
But Billy is is you know, trying to you know,
be moved operators to Chelsea. But him and Sally kind
of bonded over the loss of their children. Ava. It's

(01:30:59):
in one year since Sally's blocks Ava, and it's been
you know, a couple of years since Billia, So you know,
Billy and Sally kind of bonded because you know, to
tie it in. Adam has been a little preoccupied with
you know, you know, running this company, keeping a secret
of course Connor. But also he forgot Ava's anniversary and

(01:31:20):
that did not go over well with Sally. M No,
So that was a lot to unpack. So let's stalk.
Let's talk about that. So what are your what are
your thoughts about all this Anthony, Like what do you
how are you feeling about Billy the boardroom Billy? And
also do you think him miss Sally could be a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Yes, yes, yes, and yes, So I'm gonna I'm gonna
say it this, like we have Jason Thompson cling Billy.
He's done a phenomenal job with the difference him oh
years of him playing Billy. But I also look at

(01:32:05):
him as Patrick, etcetera, etcetera. And and I think that
there's a very palpable chemistry between Jason and Courtney that
plays very well to us as longtime young and the

(01:32:25):
restless watchers. So I do think that they could go
somewhere with this, and I really, actually really want them
to go somewhere with this. But but but I I've
been a watcher for a lot of years now, and
I don't believe they're actually gonna do it now. As

(01:32:49):
far as Billy as the Billy has not worked in
any of the spaces of the poor little rich boy syndrome,
and this is another space of the poor little rich
boy syndrome. This isn't gonna work either. That's my opinion, David.

Speaker 6 (01:33:11):
I have to agree with you there one thing I
one thing I don't want. And Candace, I'm sure you're
with me, because I think we agree this one before.
I don't want Billy with Chelsea.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
I don't want Billy with Chelsea and I and I
don't want Billy with with Victoria. Oh, Candace, I don't
want to say with either of them, Okay, I feel
it though. The reason I don't want Billy like Okay,
let me say this. Melissa and Jason have chemistry. That

(01:33:51):
said though, But the thing is is that Chelsea rate Billy,
and I know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
We live in a world where you know, look, this
is not nucal lore.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
Okay, It's not only the Chelsea reaped Billy. It's also
that she played the games, everything that went through and
run the Jenseit it just it can't possibly work. We
work with the chemistry. I want it to work, but

(01:34:22):
you know it's all of that history.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
It can't work.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Don't do this to us. We said this like nine
months ago, Kansas. We did, didn't we And not only.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
That, I don't want Billy and Lily because I've seen
it now and you ruin it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Yep, you ruin that that moment.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
I guess. And that's and here's the thing I kind
of said. I knew they wouldn't probably do Billy and Sally,
but I just didn't want it to happen like this.
I didn't want it to happen where Adam is now completely, uh,
turn his back on Sally. That makes sense, because the
thing is, he said, you need to tell me. Adam
was so caught up he didn't remember what the date was.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Like, but then again, you know, on the other side
of it, for the true ark of Adam, for all
the different actors that played Adam, this actually doesn't play
completely off character.

Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
He doesn't care anymore, and he hadn't cared.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
It wasn't said Tim mc kelsey had big son in Baltimore.
He stopped paring.

Speaker 5 (01:35:30):
Yes, no, but he truly never wanted a child with
with Sally. So it's lay on the side.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
But but again it's sort of like, I don't know,
like that to me was a little like ruthless though.
That was kind of a little like it's like, y'all,
you're young, young Russell, y'all really trying to make sure
y'all tell us that they're breaking up, Like, Okay, I
just wanted that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
No, I agree with you on that absolutely, But what
I'm saying is that, you know, it's it's not out
of the trajectory of who and what this has been
all along mm hmm, from the character perspective and the
relationship perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Right, So I'm just like St.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
David, did we get your opinions?

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Yeah? I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
I like Adam and Sally.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
I do.

Speaker 6 (01:36:34):
I think they're the better there I like Adam and Sally,
but I'm not sure yet about Billy and Sally yet.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
Right, Okay, So I want to say I want to
see well, I don't want to see Billy Sally because
I'm gonna be honest if y'all, If y'all do that,
then I'm gonna have something else to say when it
when it, if you guys do it, because I just
really say, this is the least, this last, this is
the this is your last opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
With with with with Yeah, I know, and you know what,
I do that on that, I absolutely agree with you.
But I think the chemistry between Jason and Courtney slash
you know, Billy and Sally, there's something there. There's something there.

(01:37:27):
They've never given Courtney the right material the whole they've
had her. They played, they played her into all the
situations they should have played her in, but they never
keep it the right material to play with.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Mm hmm. Yeah. So okay, we got touch, we got
the jump, Oh go ahead, David freens it out.

Speaker 6 (01:37:51):
Yeah, yeah, just just as how she did when she
lost Dava. I thought that was beautiful and I she
handled that very well. But they need to, like Anthony said,
they need to feed her some real material constantly pieces yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Real quick. We got Lucy, the granddaughter of Sheila and
Phyllis M. San Garland over Faith. And at the concert,
Lucy was drinking and everybody has been bringing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
Up how Lucy reminds them of a young Well.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
They're the same age of Cassie. Lucy failed out about Cassie.
Faith went to Sharon, who you know, she's off her meds.
So somemegirl's been dreaming about Cameron Kaylendon at again young rusts.
Good job because we didn't know. We did not know

(01:38:58):
that Linden as he was coming back to anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
Darn and Daniels all get Daniel's like, I feel like I.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Need to honor Cassie. Someone named my new game. And Heather,
being the reasonable parent, never thought I would say that
sees exit all the questions like well, who's going to
this concert? What kind of time? But they are concerned
about Lucy's obsessions with faith, and Faith has success from

(01:39:29):
boundaries with Lucy. Let's discuss this, Anthony.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
I am very very much actually in favor of this storyline.
I think this is fresh, this is something we haven't
actually played with. And you know, the experimental generation went
from college to high school. It was always you know,
you'll have that one experience in college. Well, now it's

(01:40:00):
the one experience in high school. And I actually I don't.
I love you Young and the rests, but I don't.
I don't think you're brave enough to actually take this
story where it should go.

Speaker 6 (01:40:15):
I thought you, Yeah, I was a little disappointed that
nothing happened.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
You are you? Oh my god, yes, because honestly, you know,
you set it up that it could be that storyline
to tell. And here's the thing, Young and the Restless.
In no other way can I tell you to go
look at General Hospital for storyline, you know, uh hints

(01:40:46):
and support of this and that. However, having said that,
go to the nineties, the early two thousands, and then
look at the teen scene right now in General Hospital
and understand how you write differently for different seasons, et cetera,
et cetera. But the only and the rest of us
has never been good at that. But that's kind of

(01:41:09):
a sidebar to the the full on. No, no, no, no, David, Yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
What was it?

Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
Well, Faith, being the responsible one, called Lucy on her
actions and made sure she got homes because she wasn't
gonna put up with it. And here I thought, see,
this is what I thought something was going to happen.
They're either Sharon because she's offered meds or Lucy herself

(01:41:45):
would cause an accident.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
And that's a beat they absolutely should have played. But
there's also the beat that they're both in that space
where they need to reassess what, you know, the choices
they're making them, where they are finding themselves in their lives.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
I guess, Candice, here's the thing is that I'm so
intrigued with the storyline, just like with the corner storyline,
but this one is because we're seeing this is okay.
This is something I've said a lot lately. We all
was that kid that wanted to hang out with the

(01:42:29):
older crew. Yep, regardless, regardless if you were fourteen, you
wanted to hang out with the seventeen and eighteen year old.
You wanted to do this, you wanted to do that.
That's used me because here's the same when you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Were seventeen you wanted to hang out with the college kids.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
Well, actually I kind of wanted to skip the college years.
Yeah they go straight to twenty one. Yeah, that was
me in a good girl way, thank you. The thing
is is that Lucy, from what we're told, what we're seeing, seemed,
doesn't want to act her age. She wants to she
wants to be grown. And not only that, but we

(01:43:07):
also got to look at the lifestyle she probably led to.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Right. Okay, yeah, so so.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Not only that, right, she was tally sheltered in the
sense that again she probably couldn't connect with kids her
own age. And guess what, folks, that happens morning with saints.
We have faith lot now real quick, I got it.
I didn't get into it, but we had a discussion
about faith here. Faith was Lucy. Do y'all remember Faith drinking?

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
Yea, yeah, yeah, because she.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
Was being treated as a baby by her own her
own peers. Now she's older. The one girl was asking
why are you hanging out with her? Like like she's
a kid and everything else like that. Faith is also
trying to keep up a good reputation, was her own peers.
So the thing is is that, yeah, she can still

(01:44:01):
be friends with Lucy. Yeah that's no problem, but she
also needs to tell Lucy, hey, you know, I'll hang
out with you, but you know, we can't you know,
do abc it. You cannot be meeting no drinking like,
I'm not going down for you. You need to tell
your parents Da da da da.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
Da da da da, Lucy, I'm not your father and
I'm not your favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
Yeah exactly. And not only that, but with Lucy Lucy again,
look at who her grandparents are, her grandmamas are, she
is developing, Like how this that unhealthy obsession with face?
You're not gonna tell me? Friends, and foremost y'all took

(01:44:44):
that girls shop and for for Faith and spend a
two hundred dollars on a bracelet. I'm sorry, David, Anthony, Pam,
all the guys on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
I love all of y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
Y'all better be dankful. I get y'all fifty se bag
of potato chips, okay, because that's you know, like, seriously,
I'm not sasional two hundred dollars on the no like
ye now again again with all this Cassie stuff, and
I'm starting to really question it because at first I
was like, when I saw it, I was like, oh
my god, something's going to happen to Faith and Lisa's

(01:45:16):
going to have to drive. I still get this like
feeling that something's going to happen to one or if
not both girls. But I'm also looking at Sharon because
Sharon's off her meds and she's pollucinating now. So I
don't know where we're going at with this, but I'm

(01:45:36):
going to say this. I'm here for the ride, literally,
I'm here for it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
I see something like sharing, having an inkling for a
moment of what's happening, and trying to stop, uh, you know, faith,
I think more yeah, faith, and then kind of flung
back into illucidity and it's all converging in cars. I'm

(01:46:03):
just like, you know, I will tell you this, young
and the rest of us. You you, you, you truly
excel at setting us up to wait. Where you don't
excel it is you give it the shocker. That's usually
pretty good too, but the aftermath not so good, not

(01:46:25):
so good at all. But you're kind of setting stuff
up here right now that I'm really, really, really really
kind of you know, like I'm waiting to see ooh, okay,
all right, we got a jump Salem, David Salem.

Speaker 6 (01:46:41):
Well, let's say Xander's mom is in town for the wedding,
and I gotta say I love her. I love her so.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Me too.

Speaker 6 (01:46:57):
I love her, And I have to say I didn't
watch it today because my WiFi was not being it
was not working properly on my TV set, so I
didn't get to see today's hopefully tomorrow. But with all

(01:47:21):
the things, Teresa got her come up and she's she's
got six months.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
In my right, Candice, yep, yep.

Speaker 6 (01:47:37):
Xander's trying to uh fill. Xander isn't sure if he
wants Titan or not, but he's just decided to take
it with his mother's encouragement, he offered, which was nice.
This was very nice. He offered Alex position to day,

(01:48:00):
but Alex said, no, I'm I'm good. It's all yours,
and that surprised me a little bit. For now, for now, yeah,
but I think the whole Fiona and Brady thing has
really got my attention more than anything else right now.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
All right, I'm just gonna jump in real quick and say,
oh my god, yes, yes, yes, love mama, love mama,
thank you, thank you for that. I'm not loving any
of this. I am not loving any single piece of this,
but I'm not hating it either. And what did you

(01:48:44):
end with David? You ended with something that I was
really interested in.

Speaker 6 (01:48:49):
Oh what Alex turned down? Xanders offer no after that?
No that I think I've said. Fiona and Brady got
most of my attention right now.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
Yes, okay, I very much agree. There's something I am
so very very very very uh like tickled and intrigued.
I like that dynamic, Candace, go.

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
Here's what I I I'm gonna say this. I love Fanla, Yes, yeah,
I like. I like her, but I don't trust her.
And I'm going to be leaving to Dave. Dave, I'm
singing right through you. I'm seeing something. I don't think
Xander is really the sun. If I'm going based off

(01:49:47):
with no, if I'm going off with based off the
mama and the fact that she's with Brady, I got
some questions. I need a DNA tes like a real one.
I need to see something because I'm feeling so this
is a setup. I don't know what I feel as

(01:50:07):
though this is a con because think about it, she told.

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
She told.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
What was it? Like? Well? No, she she she was
keeping a secret to its like, okay, don't tell my
son that I still that I've still been drinking. Okay,
so we keep the secrets from the sun. Okay, what
else are we keeping from him? So to me, I'm
carefully watching this and the fact that she's all cool

(01:50:35):
cooled by out to Brady.

Speaker 6 (01:50:40):
I'm just saying something from Brady mm hm.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
Weeks. Yes, we will.

Speaker 6 (01:50:51):
There's something she must she she looks like she you
know what if the term they use like Brady's her mark.

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
He's a gold digger.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
And I mean, oh, I'm just gonna make this prediction.
We gonna see we gonna see boy and daddy interactions.
When it don't work with the boy, the Viper's gonna
go after the daddy. M y'all know what I'm saying here.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
I'm still saying I was sorry. I was thinking it's
starting a bad but no, what am I liking?

Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
What else am I liking? I'm liking the fact that I.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Am now officially back on Elexander, Sarah and Sander Train.
Thank you, Yes me too. You proved Daves. You prove
to me why they belong together, and now I want
to see what happens afterwards. Emily O'Brien, girl, you did
the work. I'm gonna miss you as Teresa. I'm read

(01:52:01):
that well, you know she's finally you know, telling of stuff.
The shout out real quick to your brother and to
Christopher Shawn. Y'all need to be permanent on this show.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Yeah, we.

Speaker 6 (01:52:18):
Have at least one more scene left, and you know
they've been saying that for some reason.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Yeah, there's there's one more scene. Yes, there is, yep.
All right, so let's let's jump over with you Port Charles.
I'm gonna just start and shut this down right now.
Here's the deal, folks, there's a lot of conversation out there. Lulu,
Lulu is gonna wake up. We know Lulu is gonna

(01:52:45):
wake up. It's not gonna be Unfortunately, the last Lulu
who played Lulu.

Speaker 6 (01:52:52):
To see the other girl that was mentioned too, right, right, Candice, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
Yes, we we found out two days go that Julie
Murray Berman absolutely turned down, does not want it. Here's
the thing, folks, Just sit back and let's see what happens.
They don't want the Lulu that played to the last
seven ish years, that Lou you know that Lulu was

(01:53:20):
on canvas. They want to go in a different direction
with this character. And at this point, we've accepted so much,
we've accepted people coming back from the dead with no
you know, they didn't have a right hand, then suddenly
they have a right hand. We've accepted so much stuff
in the soap opera land. Let's just see what happens,

(01:53:42):
all right. I do have to say this, Oh my god,
I am so utterly in awe in the worst way possible.
There is so much gold mine that you could play
with right now in General Hospital. So you give us
is Candice crap? Can I say crap on this? On

(01:54:08):
this podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
You can say that, you can say that, Yeah, yeah, crap.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
I'm gonna say this. You're doing very well with characters
developments with two or three of your characters, and then
you're baffling the hell Who the hell is Sam McCall
I don't know this chick no more? David, Do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
Huh? Is that your friend Sam is Libby? Yes? I know.

Speaker 6 (01:54:37):
Well I can't, I can't explain it, Anthony.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
I mean you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna go deep.
One of my favorite General Hospital, Poor Charles General Hospital
characters from my entire Oh God, I love her, Lynn Lynn, Lynn,
you as a person. I want to give you like saintum.
I have always loved me some Lucy Coe. Who the

(01:55:04):
hell is LOUI? Who is this Lucy? Where did she
come from? Sam? And Lucy? Dy Well? Elizabeth, she's been
in character flux for so long. I don't even think
they know what to do with her. Nope, Jason, Okay,
let me let me tackle Jason for a moment. Y'all

(01:55:24):
pick this storyline. Okay, I actually am buying into Jason
with Carly almost, I'm not. I don't hate this, but
oh man, you keep giving us these glimpses of what

(01:55:47):
the Jason character we want is and then pulling it
back to the Jason character that you're writing in this world. No, okay, Anna,
Anna is absolutely my most I love Carly, I do.
I've always loved Carly, but my my loyalties are Anna, Carly.

Speaker 6 (01:56:08):
And Nails a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
And then Laura. I love Laura and she should be first,
but she's not. She was gonna calla for so long,
she was on the run, all that stuff, Anna, Carly, Elizabeth,
those and you know, and then Laura. Those are my
top four?

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Are you joined?

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
I can't even go on.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
After this, Candace, take it up from me, from me,
from me, from here.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Okay, Jason unrecognizable. I feel as though I've been I've been.
I literally got pushed bag into the corner and the
door got shut. I will say this, Malice Bernard, Baby,
you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:56:53):
Okay, I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
I know it was hard. We used to do thirty things,
but I'm gonna say this right now. You're a tough
strong man for doing Yes, hospital, you understand where your
predicament was. But at the same time, I'm giving Maurice
his slowers because that was a tough one of That
was a tough situation that he was in, that he

(01:57:15):
was putting that he had to execute again. The Christina, Sir,
I'm gonna just go real quick because we're run out
of time. The circus, the circuits, the circuit toy lines. Hello,
I didn't feel a dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
I know I was supposed to, but I didn't get it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:34):
And I feel it though.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
You missed the boat with some things. Let's see what
else when Luli wakes up. Yeah, of course it's gonna
be a new world, a new attitude. Get used to it. Uh,
And that is about David close it out?

Speaker 6 (01:57:54):
All right? Well, let's see, I don't I have to
agree with all of all of you there. Anna, Anna's
all over the place. Gora is who she is because
one she married a rapist and she always.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
I'm gonna push back. She was in a coma, she
had to miss her children, dead children coming back, husband
dead husband coming back, can't capsize. I'm sorry, No, I
don't accept that with Laura. I love Jenny Francis and
I don't want to see her go. But when you
look at the writing for Laura and you look at

(01:58:42):
the writing for Tracy, there is a deficit, a huge deficit,
and oh my god, one hundred thousand percent better. And look,
you know, and Jenny Francis deserves.

Speaker 6 (01:58:57):
She does.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
Candice admit this. They have always, systematically, from the very beginning,
underestimated Jeanie Francis, and they don't allow her to go
to the same places other actresses.

Speaker 1 (01:59:09):
Gog, I agree with you on that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:13):
All right, all right, we'll be back in two weeks,
we Candice. I love you, David, I love you, Pam,
I love you, Vinny.

Speaker 6 (01:59:19):
If we miss you, Vinny'll be back.

Speaker 4 (01:59:23):
You guys, take care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:59:26):
Can I can?

Speaker 6 (01:59:27):
I everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
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