Episode 23 Of The SWC+Round Table

This month on the SWC+ Round Table we have an all around Star Wars discussion. Rob is joined by Carlos (Tumbling Saber Podcast) Rob (Generation X-Wing Podcast) Ben (Skyhoppers Podcast) and Andre (San Diego Sabers Podcast).

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Episode Transcript

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Live from the news line of WeaverStudios in the company confines of Northern Ontario.
Canon it is the SWC plus roundTable. Welcome everybody. We have
a really great show. No retrospectof this time, just five dude,
it's just you know, hanging out, you know. So I'm really excited

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for this one. So I'm gonnaquickly go around at horn and introduce everybody.
We got all the way from SanDiego from the San Diego Sabers podcast.
We have Andrea Good morning, wehave my Canadian brethren, we have
my my friend to the East andfrom Tumbling Saber podcast. We have Carlos
Good afternoon. And we have backout on the Left Coast, my good

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friend from the Generation X Wing podcast, mister Rob Williams. Low everybody,
and the Loan American on the show. Welcome back after a hiatus from the
round Table. No stranger to theround Table. This is probably his fifth
appearance. Ben from the Skyhoppers podcast, Welcome back, Yeah, all the
way from the No Coast Prime flyover. The Loan American as Andreas sitting

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there in San Diego, like,what am I Mexican? Well, for
the record, heritage twice, Iam French Canadian. There you go.
My full name is actually Andrea FrancoisMarquis. Okay, No, I took
Spanish in high school because I liveda spitting distance from the border. Right
you could see the outlet malls inTijuana. Oh yeah, well quick,

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No that I was in the Iwas in San Diego in twenty eighteen,
and I took my fifteen year olddaughter at the time, and somebody was
like, hey, you guys gotto go to Tijuana. I'm like,
I'm not bringing my fifteen year olddaughter. No, no, no,
it's it's not the experience it usedto be. Yeah, that's good enough
for Camp Crusty. It's good enoughfor your daughter, don't worry about Yes.

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Hey, hey that was not camp. Sorry, that was holly bad
worst camp. That was worst Crustyever. All right, we're gonna,
we're gonna. I'm just gonna removemyself right now. Actually, no,
no worries, rob. So we'regonna. I asked a few of us,
because we got a nice, bigpacked round table here, come up

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with some questions or just some topics. I'm gonna throw it to Andre first.
Something we can roll around the table. Well, I had a couple
of ideas. Okay, um wecan go you know, fanboy, we
can go provocative, we can gojust chatty. What what's everybody feeling right
now? I say you start withone, okay, and we'll move from

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there. Yes, well, umit. It goes with the usual top
ten or top five kind of mintconcepts, which are our podcast fodder that
we love. Um, what isyour favorite thing about being a fan and
your least favorite thing about being afan? I'm laughing because this kind of

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relates to my questions somewhat. Okay, Okay, well we'll jump in the
yours next, Rob, just soif you can tie, if you can,
if you can sew it in.Yeah, it's interesting you choose that,
so okay, so I'll go first. What I like about being the
fan, Um, the community.Definitely. What I dislike about being a
fan the community, not that Itry to surround myself with um like the

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Neil lowryes and gentlemen like yourselves,like that positivity of the group. Um
ban, you're really into legends.I read them when they came out.
I haven't reread a lot of them. Yeah, but it's it's okay,
you know, um, Rob you'rein the five first. I'm not in

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the five first, but that's okaytoo. It's not you. You're an
astromc builder, so it's like you'reon a different spectrum. And again,
and I hope that that's okay withyou guys. It's quite okay. It's
the same place. So yeah,again, I just the toxicity around the
fandom I can do without. Butit's it's podcasting, which gentlemen like yourselves.

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It's um and podcasting with women andright or however you identify, it
doesn't matter, so or or themeetings when we're Ben, we've met up
a couple of times, and itwasn't for Star Wars, There's no way
we would have. Hey, let'sgo to Chili spin some forty seven,
forty seven year old Canadian there.If it wasn't for if it wasn't first,

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I never would have gone to Orlando, right exactly. Yeah, Yeah,
So that's that's what I like aboutit. So um um, Ben,
what's your what's your favorite? What'syour last? I guess I hate
to fall back just on the communityanswer because that is kind of the default,
But yeah, I mean I wouldn'tbe here. I've gotten to talk
about Star Wars way more than Iwould have otherwise had I just continue to

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kind of enjoy it alone quietly inwhatever bedroom might happen to be living at
the time. And I feel likeI've gotten pretty good, especially recently,
I've gotten very good at using,if not the block button, the mute
button, because there are a lotof things that, like, if we're
talking, I mean, if we'retalking Star Wars, there's a lot of
things Star Wars could be doing betterright now. Yeah, and I think
it's important to listen when people aretalking about that. But I don't think

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one of the things Star Wars couldbe doing better is like cutting canto bite
from the last Jedi, you know, like that's I'm sick. I'm sick
of that. So it's that's obviouslythe part. Thankfully, I've not even
really had too many interactions with thosepeople. But I guess if I could

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go a different route from my leastfavorite thing, and maybe this is more
a personal thing, um, justor something that I'm experiencing. UM,
I'm getting to move it. I'mgetting ready and move in with my girlfriend
next a few months ago, August, thank you, thank you. UM,
I have a lot of things,a lot of Star Wars things,

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and that kind of relates to myquestion that I've just come up with,
but that we'll get too later.But it sometimes I just wonder. I
sometimes grapple with like the idea oflike, you know, materialism. It's
like how much do these possessions matter? And that kind of being butting up
against the fact that's like, well, I want these things, but I

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also might not have room for allthese things. So it's kind of creating
some amount of pain where I'm like, well, I'm gonna have to get
rid of some of this stuff.Some of the stuff's gonna have to be
cut. So that's kind of Iguess whether than just being a straight negative,
it's kind of a double edged swordfor me. Yeah, but if
I have to pick a different answer, that'll be my sec answer. You
what you have to do is,um, I built myself up a room.

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I literally had to or else Iwouldn't have it. But you know,
it's it's and and it's it's what'sjust one of the Yeah, it's
it's having I said this all thetime, especially brand Ranne Joe. But
I'm in my office and I gotautographs on the wall, and I figures
in cases and books and everything elseand guitars and all the other accouted them

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on the go with being you meana a dude, A lot of star
Wars and music. So but Ihave one any So now I'm out of
room on my wall. So ifI get something like a picture or a
post or something, it has totake something, has to replace something.
So as time goes on those ifI if somebody gave me a poster,

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hey I got this at this uh, at the premiere of this movie,
I'm like, oh, that's great. Probably won't see my wall because I'm
gonna take down my my Peter Mayhewautograph for you know it again, it's
no slight on anything I get new, I get it, curbs it,
curbs grabbing everything. So yeah,Rob Williams, um, it was funny

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you mentioned collecting. I uh,I was just thinking about that. It's
a topic that we are podcast hasbeen throwing around for a while, like
what do we do with the stuff? At what point do we just stop
collecting certain things. There's a pointwhere me and Neil would head down to
the States to a Bella's fair.Um, this is during the nineties when
part of the force line was outand it was they would get three months

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earlier than Canada. We'd go downthere and buy two of everything, one
for in package, one for out. And it was just like now,
sitting in a closet right over there, just taking out space and why am
I keeping it? I can't takeit with me when I die. It's
just it's one of those things.I'm single, I don't live with anybody,
and it's just like it's what itmay be a more focused collector.

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Yeah, that is a good question, but some of it goes to the
Some of the best things about beinga Star Wars fan is the creativity it
sparks. I mean, all theseideas of toy design, Like we wouldn't
have had a lot of these thingsas kids. I mean, and this
was the time where Star Wars reallyblew up the action figure um market.

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We wouldn't have anything like Gi JoeHeman all sorts of stuff without it.
Yeah. Um. But it alsosparked a lot of creativity regarding for me,
like art writing for a lot ofother people. Music. When you
listen to the Mandalorian, who's theguy who does the music for Mandalorian?
Again, incredible musical mind and Ijust like watching him just work is it's

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it's it's fun to watch. Imean, I've done music before, I
was in an orchestra as a kid. I just but to watch someone like
that, it's amazing. Um.And it's also allowed this creativity, like
I'm building a knee and non costumeand this crea activity has allowed me to
give back to the community and that'ssomething that like for those who don't know,

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I'm doing a BC Lung I'm doinga virtual stare client for the BC
Lung Association, and I just cameback from like day sixteen of doing forty
eight floors and it's I enjoy it. I've hit my goal and I'm giving
back to those who need help.And our outer end Garrison has raised.
I think it's over close to fourthousand dollars. Our our and Garrison raised

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seven hundred dollars variety kids during atime of COVID and this is stuff that
it's all money raised because someone wanteda picture of a store and trooper and
that's it, you know. It'sjust it's amazing to think how the community
like that has really sparked help towardsothers where you know, you kind of

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hope that big businesses is big businessesand stuff like and people like that give
back and it's the little guys likeus who are who are also giving back.
So the negative, Um, Iwill talk later. And this leads
to my question is the stigma.Um, I'm going to hold off on
that for my question, but thereis a there's a stigma attached. I

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thought you're gonna say, I know, I Ben Ben's converted. Now I've
converted. He was a it wasa long missionary travel, but I've converted
Ben. Uh. Well, Iwouldn't say converted. I wouldn't say so
we need to tolerant, tolerant,we need to talk. But but um,

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sorry it this sound creepy as hell. But any which way, Yeah,
I will talk later about the ideaof stigma and I there's a big
one about Yeah, okay, perfectum Carlos Um. What I love about
being a Star Wars fan is iskind of I love the whole Jedi like

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them, the powers type of thing. It's the fantasy aspect of like being
able to do more than what peopleexpect of you. So there's something about
that that speaks to me. Andit's always spoken to me. And the

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thing that I like the least aboutStar Wars is also expectations, because I
myself was ecstatic when Disney took over, and just because we'd be getting more
content, and I didn't think we'dbe getting as much content as we got.
And as we're planning or they're planningto shove down our gullets over the

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next few years. And so ina world where in the world where I
want to live, where I tempermy own expectations and I accept things for
what they are, it also makesit a lot more difficult to enjoy,

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um, let's say, the directionor the writing of a certain project that
was probably not catered to me specifically, and I have to accept that.
So it's like, you know,um, be careful what you wish,
wish for a type of thing,um, you know, versus you know,

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just you know, enjoying what they'regiving you. Like it's it's kind
of yeah, it's taught me alot about patients, and it's taught me
a lot about acceptance. And Ithink, you know, growing up and
getting old, Uh, it's alsopart of that journey. But all the
you know, the riff raff andthe fighting about this character or that character,

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or this storyline or this director's visionor my childhood being ruined like there
is. Yeah, that means nothingto me anymore. It's not a valid
there's nothing valid about any of theirjust opinions. That's all they are,
and you have to take it's nota personal attack. If somebody likes k

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Tso and you don't, it's nota personal attack. If you're a fan
of Han solo but only Harrison Ford'shand solo and not a fan of Alden
Aaron Reich. Listen, that's yourown garbage to deal with. It's nobody
else's. It's not Kathleen Kennedy.It's not Jon Favreau, it's not Dave

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Feloni, it's not George Lucas.So you know that that those are the
things that I like the least.And it's also you know, it's about
it's the dichotomy of I mean,it's not just Star Wars, it's not
just geek fandom. It's everything isTeam Red, Team Blue. Everything.
You have to be on a teamor else you're a traitor to both of
them. So it's like, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right,

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So it's like, um, Icompletely this miss and discount any point
that's uh wrapped up in any ofthose labels. So for me, it's
about accepting um and being happy thatthey they they're bringing us new stuff.
And then the hard part for meor that I like at least, is

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having to say that this is okaythat I don't like this, and it's
okay that I like this, andnobody else's opinion has to infringe on what
I feel. Yep, no,I agree with you. Yeah, And
and also too, you can't um, I ruined my child a little long
before it is. That's not wrong. That's creating memories or losing them stories.

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I want to add to that becauseI the expectations what ruined Rogue one
for me, and so I itwas just all these expectations. I apologize
that I was thinking like it shouldbe like this because of this and that,
and I didn't enjoy the movie andI took that. Jamie, my
co host, just kind of lookedat me like that was your own fault
and amusing you know what, You'reright, So I'm going to take some

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time off and revisit it later.But it's a level of maturity, and
I'm LENI listened to the Skyhoppers evenlike years ago when I when when you
guys were first on, you guyswould talk about the reddit's you guys talk
about the toxicity, and a partof me was just like, you know,
it's it's a younger crowd on Redditin my mind, and they are
toxic. So I've taken to thepoint of like, I'm not even gonna

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pay attention anymore. It's just it'swhat I enjoy. Like like you,
Carlot's on you. It's all onyou. Ye. You create your own
hate, you create your own love. Yeah. Yeah, So, Andrea
was your question? You got somethingreal quick? What was actually I'm a
lot of mine when I was thinkingthrough the question. Line up with you
guys. The community is the thing, you know, um, the podcast

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gang that I've been allowed to becomea part of since I've taken on a
stronger role in the podcast. UM. I love my Saber Club. Um.
The fact that it's family literally addfiguratively, is an amazing thing of
the fandom, you know. Thetoxicity of the fandom, you know,
obviously is one thing we all agreeupon. The only frustration I would add

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as you guys talk about having toomuch stuff because you're being a collector.
I'm at the other end. I'mthe only income in the house. I've
had raised three daughters, sent themall through private school, and so I've
sacrificed my fandom in a lot ofways, collecting wise, to make sure
they got what they Now they're allold and on the house. So now
I'm thinking about buying it now.I just can't make myself spend money on

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that type of stuff. But andthen using that as how much of a
fan am I if I don't havethese things or I don't buy these things,
you know, And that's that's onme, I admit, But that's
what the expectation of being a fanand not having stuff. Are you really
a fan? Then? Well yeahI am. I go to the movies,
I watched the shows, you know. But it's the commercialization of the

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fandom is part of the challenge,I think. Yeah, so yeah,
So in the summary, Um,with that, Ben, what what are
the what are the kids saying thesedays? Don't yup my yum? I
think it's called king. I thinkit's called king shaming. Um okay,
okay, thank you. I'm nothim to the drive anymore. I don't,
don't say he knows. Okay,so we're gonna switch over. So,

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yeah, I'm twenty seven. I'llbe twenty eight this year. I'm
not that young. I'm a bigkid. Trade yeah, yeah, I'll
trade you. Please, I won't. I'll trade you right now. The
damage I could inflict on this worldwith this mind. At your age,
you had your chance, Yeah Idid. I screwed it up? Or

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did you? Well? Yeah,speaking of good memories? All right,
Rob? You Rob? You wantedto say, so, Okay, so
this is funny because I struggling.You forget a topic and uh, I'm
making it sadly personally. You guysare gonna be my physical mental therapist for
today. Good luck to me.But there is a stigma. So,

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as I was saying earlier, I'msingle. I'm in online dating and one
of the things. And I puton my profile with the with the suggestion
to a friend of mine, it'smy party on Instagram. Um, she
suggests I put a picture of mein my costume. Why not? I
got pictured me and my kilt,got picture of me my costume, and
it's interesting to see, um,who who who? Likes the picture,

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who interacts and who doesn't know anythingabout Star Wars? And and then there's
um, oh right, it's gonnalove this. Um then there's the connection
like is that like the same asFuries or is that what you do?
Is that what you dress up as? And it's just I'm not kidding,
Riley, I know you're listening.I swear to God, this is what

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This is a conversation I had lastweek and I was trying to It's like
being a Star Wars fan doesn't meanI here's a question. Do you live
in your parents basement? Um?So is this all you do? What
do you Is this all you dowith your spare time? You had podcasts
that's about Star Wars, so youtalk about stars all the time. It's
just this idea. And it's notjust from the online day. It's just

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like friends at work, you're thatStar Wars guy at work. Everybody else
you know you're you're that guy youlike Star Wars. Everything that Star Wars
is sent to you, the gifts, the emails, all that sort of
stuff. My parents send me StarWars emails for Christ's sake. I mean,
it's just like it's and yeah,I've probably seen it three months before
they did. But that's not thepoint. There is a stigma, and

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I'm just like, it's I'm wonderingif you guys have felt a stigma,
if you've felt that sort of negativityor almost that that pity feel, because
I'm not I'm not sad of enjoyingstars. I have so many other things
in my life, like so manyother things, and that the right person
will will find that, will discoverthat over time. But that's just other

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point. Again, not trying tomake its personal, but it's just like
there is a slight um, there'sa slight cocked eye look or a pity
look sometimes when you mentioned to somebodythat you have a Star Wars podcast,
or you do something for the fiveFirst joy Builders, or you just happen
to wear a Star Wars T shirt, which some people wear ironically and some

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people just wear because of And itwasn't it was even worse. I would
say, back before episode one wasout, if you're anywhere Star Wars,
you were just painted as a geekor a nerd. Yeah, because it
was well over. Yeah, butthese people people who are into geek culture,
whether it's Star Wars star Trek whatever. They they shape our world.

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They shape like thing like from likeiPhones and I watches to everything. It's
just it's a geek world. Imean, it's so I don't understand why
it's such. So look down whenyou've got freaking freaking jocks out there who
caused play as Tom Brady, whocaused play as Pavo Burey. Oh my
god, that's my Canucks talking,who caused play as their favorite Ronaldo.

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They're wearing the jersey, they're wearingthe colors. That's cause play. That's
fandom. And they're painting their faceand standing in front and the raiders and
dog pound and acting and doing theirwhatever's there's no difference. Man cave with
a with with with race cars isno different from a man cave with a
with a Scout Trooper bucket on sittingon the table with no plastic bags.

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By the way, Carls, Isaid this. I seid this over and
over when when I was building myAR two and I'm in my garage and
I got my hair metal playing andum and when you walk people walk down
my street would see one middle agedman working on his hot rod. One
middle age man working on his motorbikeand then they see me with the dome
off my ar two. I canhonestly tell you, I bet you I

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get a lot more looks. Yeah. Now it's like like my wife had
a we had a delivery Amazon whatever, Knox and door and he's like,
uh, here you go, ma'am. And he's like, and I saw
I saw this because I got oneof those ring doorbell records. He's like,
is that RGT too, Like it'sin my living room and like yeah,
he's like that's awesome. But whyit's like my husband, you know,

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I mean, he's just over it. Like it's just like but people
are just it's like having like acelebrity sitting in there. So I just
gotta have to throw that in.Carlos. You you look like you wanted
to jump on this. You goat it. I actually wanted to validate
a little bit Rob. Rob's point. Um, but if you if you
look at if you look at thesituation, Let's say you have you're a

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picture of your yourself and your ScoutTrooper uniform, and somebody looks at that
and is already questioning whether they wantto be with you. They're not the
right person for you. So allyou did is take a step away from
getting to know a person that's notworth it for you. Right. It's
sure that, yes, I'm aware. I'm aware of that sort of mister
Rogers's message. Yes, but it'strue. I mean, it is very

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true. It's extremely and I've I'vebeen on and off dating profiles, and
I learned with time. You guyscould see right over my shoulder here I
have a guitar on the wall.But I don't have a picture of myself
playing guitar on my dating profile becauseyou don't. Personally, I don't want
to have to answer a ton ofquestions to start off, where do you

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play, who do you play with? What type of music? It's like,
look, get to know me firstas a person. If you want
to know me as a person,you'll find out that stuff later on.
Am I a musician? I wouldsay it's probably the thing that most people
know me as besides a podcaster.But at the same time, there are
connotations, some positive some negative,that come with being a musician, or

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come with being a Scout trooper,or with anything else that people already start
to form ideas in their mind beforeeven having the conversation with you. So
I try to just eliminate that sothat when I do start to get to
know a person, they're they're they'regetting to know me, and maybe they

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understand later on why I love StarWars, and they'll understand later more about
my poetic side and my artistic side. Like if this is one thing and
it comes back to our culture,now, everybody needs to be something.
Yeah, I am this. LikeGina Krano got in trouble because she made
fun of the pronoun thing in herin her Twitter bio, but she wasn't

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making fun of I don't think shewas making fun of transgender people, and
she was making fun of the factthat people have to announce who you are.
I'm not a fan of Genacarano forI don't think she's a great actress.
Okay, let's just put that out, so no big loss for in
the world of Star Wars. Ithink that her takes are garbage. But

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I also think that there's a littlebit it's easy to try to point the
finger at somebody and say you're thisbecause you misunderstood what they were really trying
to say. And let's I'll behonest. She has no tact and her,
like I said, her takes ourgarbage, so it's easy to dump
on her all that stuff. ButI think that little thing with the beat
bop boop wasn't to say, oh, I'm diminishing transgender people. It was,

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um, I find it silly thatwe even have to do this right,
And I'm kind of I'm kind ofthere almost like it's I don't know,
I'm a musician, this is whatI am. No, I'm a
complicated human being that's like a littlebit of everything. Also too, Carlos,
I think Ben can relate to umwhen you when you play I again,

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I used to play the bars againtwenty years ago, but uh,
and I still play. And forme, if I go to a campfire
and somebody has an acoustic and Ipick it up, it's like, oh
wow, oh oh, I didn'tknow that. I love the surprise.
But you also get judged, orI remember used to being judged as oh
you play that coffeehouse. Oh okay, but oh you're on the circuit,

(27:03):
you've actually played those clubs. It'slike it's like you're you're your worth is
is based on how far you've succeededlocally like Ben, I'm sure. Like
when it's like, oh, ohyou have a single load, oh how
many downloads or how many many?How many sales? Yeah, and it's
hard because you end up judging yourselffor it. Yeah. Um, because

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it's like, my audience is notbig at all. Um. And sometimes
I'm like, a, how whatever, it doesn't matter, it's all just
you know, I do it forfun. I do it because I love
it. But the other days I'mlike, why can't I break forty Spotify
flows? You know, like that, It's it's just, it's it's rough.
It's hard just existing in the worldtoday on a lot of levels.

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Um, And I think that's probablygot a lot to do with it.
Everyone is so question question for you, how much better are you gonna feel
about yourself when you hit forty Spotifylisteners? Do you want Do you want
the honest answer or do you wantthe answer? Okay, well the honest
answer is not at all. Butin my head that's problems will be expectations.

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Yes, as soon as I hitforty, I'm like, and I'm
sure we can all relate as podcasters. We take a look at those numbers
at the end of the months andyou're like, oh, oh, but
that guy has more than me,or that guy's less, or like like
Roman and I we my other podcast. We don't tell anybody those numbers because
there ares and we have to gettwo things other people either another podcast or

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will hear them and say, I'mnot well if I can't keep up with
those guys and then and then feelbad a ums, or they'll be like,
oh, that's nothing, we're wasting. It's just nothing but judgment.
So anyway back to to Star Wars, um and you got you got anything
about this? As for the datingprofile, I have no idea. Well,

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okay, let's that's pointed. It'ssomething you can't you can answer.
You are in a light saber duelinga club. Yes, now if you
paint that brush to anybody outside ofthis probably round. Oh yeah, yeah,
you know it's being a geek.For as long as I have been,

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you know, I've original Straw Warsall the way through. I have
seen how culture has shifted to bemore accepting, but still have that edge
of really you do that, oryou spent that much money on that,
or you've you know, um,Initially, most people will they see us
walking each other with our glow sticks. They go, hey, that's cool.

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But then they realize that we aretaking it seriously. It's not.
We're just out there in the parkbecause it's a Friday night, we have
nothing to do. They tend tolook at us, going, you spend
how many hours a week doing this? You spent how much on your sabers.
Then you can tend to get it. You can get the the that
side glance of oh, do youstill live in your parents' basement? No?
No, I have a real joband I pay, you know,

(29:52):
you know I pay. My responseto that is usually oh, you watch
the Real Housewives? Yeah? Exactly, yeah thing uh and um. Being
a dad to daughters who have extremelydifferent fandoms, I'm in the K pop
and anime and watching you know,crap reality TV that I couldn't um,

(30:15):
and watching them get get even doeach other, ridiculing each other. I
go, that's the one thing Istop a though. No, the one
thing that I will not tolerate isyou putting out down someone else's phantom.
I go, I have no cluewhy you like it. I am obviously
not the target audience, never willbe never never, But I will give

(30:37):
you the freedom to experience that.You know, it might last the year,
my last, the season, mightbe a lifetime thing. Cool.
Yeah, And if people can't respondto that to what I like, I'm
a grumpy old man. Just goaway. Hey, And I might cut
this out of the podcast, butit's going on the live stream. And

(30:59):
whenever somebody says, oh, youlive in your mother's basement, you say
no, but I've seen your mother'sbase now some some for some of us,
Carlos, it's a little bit moretrue than an insult. Like,
so it's like, you know,the numbers make sense, there's a there's
a possibility. So, uh,Ben, what do you what do you

(31:21):
make of this? You know,I got aside from the music stuff,
but the star wars, you mean, like when I would assume it's more
accepted as a younger kids, God'ssake, stop. Yeah, Yeah,
I mean I think I think Robthat's true. It is a lot.

(31:42):
I feel like it is a lotmore accepted, like especially because there's I
mean, like all of us,so many people I know my age or
you know, maybe some friends notmy age. I've bonded you know,
I've bonded over I've bonded with overthis you know nerd stuff, right,
UM, a lot of it beingStar Wars. But at the same time,

(32:06):
I don't know if I should feelthe stigma, but I do.
UM whenever I think, uh,I actually use you know, I was
talking to you you guys about thisnew job I just got. During the
interview process, I mentioned my podcasttalking about managing data and looking at reading
analytics and that sort of thing,and it wasn't a big deal. But
I purposely did not mention and havenot mentioned what those podcasts are about.

(32:28):
That was like a that was especiallyas someone with multiple it's like, oh,
you have two Star Wars podcasts,like you can't say one you have
this illness and then things exactly exactlythat's how it feels, and I it's
one of those things where it's likeno one I work with is that much

(32:52):
older than me, and it's like, you know, the one time I
went into the office, there wasa Mario drawn on a white board and
there all seem kind of dorky.So it's like it probably would be fine,
but it's almost like I've never beenbullied because I like Star Wars.
But at the same time, it'slike this cultural stigma that's been passed down
almost where it's like, yeah,people are aged you just you're into what

(33:13):
you're into. And also to itjust sounds like you're not inviting it too.
It's not like two podcasts or likeit's like, oh, you got
type one and type two diabetes.You got like yeah, yeah, it's
not a podcast and diabetes and StarWars which had been portun Actually think if

(33:37):
you watch The Man Lauren um spoilersbad news, it's I don't know,
I think I think that it's it'sit's a it's still a complicated thing.
There's still a lot even you know, though you can find these spaces that's
Um. I when I was firstyou know, I'm getting to know my

(34:00):
girlfriend didn't talk about the fact thatI had Star Wars podcasts that didn't come
out until later. It's like,yeah, I was reading a Star Wars
book when she walked up to methe first time she met me. But
um, it's still kind of no, uh no, thron trees. I
feel like she would just but yeah, because she's not she's not on she's

(34:23):
not on that level. Um.But yeah, there's definitely still like a
stigma, whether it exists or not. Yeah. Um, I feel like
there are certain spaces where I don'twant to. Yeah. I don't want
to invite that kind of attention,even though it's like, yeah, so
many of my teachers from Star Wars. Someone's got to comment it on on
it at some point, But forsome reason, I just don't always want

(34:43):
to. I want to put itout there. I hear. It's like
when I wore my Sabers teacher jacketto church and they're like, okay,
let's talk about that. Yeah.I've got a lot of a lot of
conversations started there, and most ofthem were cool about it, but it
was just like what does this mean? Andre? Yeah, yeah, same,
that's all right. Okay. So, um, Carlos, do you

(35:05):
you had something you wanted to hangon to aside from your hashtag? We're
gonna keep it. Um what whatwhat did you want to bring to the
table today? Well? Um,I was thinking of the future era of
Star Wars on Disney Plus. Andwe know we have ten or eleven projects,
um, not including Mandalorian season three. UM. And I'm sure we've

(35:30):
all done the exercise of ranking themfrom most excited to least exciting. UM.
My question is would you sacrifice allthe nine other projects just to get
that one? Or would you sacrificethe one to get the next three in

(35:55):
line? Oh? Yeah, okay, so what you mean? Um?
Would I So I'll give an examplefor myself, right please please? So
I'm um when I did. Wewe did the breakdown on Tumbling Saber and
we did our top five, actuallydid the whole thing because I don't listen

(36:15):
to the Kyle um and uh exactly, and um, so I was a
fan, like I'm really looking forwardto like the Asoka series and Acolyte,
uh and or Kenobi and what wasthe other one? Uma? Here?

(36:38):
Is it the canceled one? Noware they? No? No, no,
I'm not looking forward to Rangers ofof the Republic. Um anyways,
just to say, like I thinkand and Or was at the top of
my list, with Accolyte being second, just because of the unknown nature of
Accolyte and it being like Sith andlike Jedi lore type of thing, which
is something that I'm really really reallylooking forward to, like um kind of

(37:00):
like bringing some of that that thatcrazy legend stuff back into Cannon. Uh.
So, I'm but but we don'tknow enough about it yet to know
exactly what era it's in and whothe main protagonist and antagonist is going to
be. So uh, it's it'sa little tricky. So I had I
had and or uh at the topof that list because of my love for

(37:22):
Rogue one and wanting to see howCassian becomes who he is when we get
to that movie. Uh, andyou know, eventually seeing how he befriends
aka steals k Tso and reprograms himand and and all that stuff. Um
So, would would I personally uhkill the the the andor show for the

(37:46):
next three in line, which wouldbe let's say, Accolade, Kenobi,
and Asoka um and And It's atough question. The reason why I ask
is because it's I don't know whatI would do necessarily for that. I
think that I would cancel that oneshow to get the other three. Yeah,

(38:07):
just just because you're getting more content. But if it was something else
and I had a little bit moredetails about Accolade and how that could probably
change the whole um perception, thewhole timeline of what Star Wars actually is,
I might just take that and nixall the rest. I I hear
what you're saying. I think Iwould if I was if just a slightly

(38:28):
tweet the question, I would belike, I will take the next movie
rather than the next three things onDisney Plus, you mean like like because
I think, but imagine how sillyyou'd feel if you were missing out on
the Mandaloriana. I mean like ifthat's yeah, I mean because you don't
know what will be next. Well, the thing is the Mandalorian wasn't involved,

(38:49):
wasn't It's because it already exists,So it's not what I'm saying.
If I if I traded you meanlike like a one experience and I left
Mandalorian, which is like I'm I'mI'm okay with the Mandalorian. I like
their the lower but I'm not.It was so much more than what we
expected. So can you imagine ifbut we don't know if the Book of

(39:10):
Bobo or the Kenobi or whatever is, we don't know what's gonna be And
people be like, what you haven'tyou you haven't seen Mandalorian. It's like,
you know I traded it because Carlossaid, so, you know,
so my wife won't let me watchit now. Yeah, exactly exactly,
ben Um, Yeah, like whatdo you think would you first, what's

(39:32):
your what's your your top? Yeah? What do you want? The most
anticipated of the bunch and traded forthe next three as a child of the
nineties and things from the nineties bookof Boba Fett far and away favorite,
I'm most excited for that, um, and then probably after that, I'm
gonna contain. I'm gonna say Kenobi. Um, I'm a little bummed about

(39:55):
the prospect of the what they callit the ringmatch of the things. I
don't I don't not into that,but I loved the Kenobi novel. Um,
So if it's even if it's anythinglike that the Legends book, I'm
all in for it. I'm obsessedwith tat Twin for some reason. I
can't love it. I'm the oppositeof ants. Yeah. Now, um

(40:22):
and then probably i'd say probably theAcolyte is next. I it's hard.
It's hard too for me because Ifeel like a lot of them are kind
of you know, a lot ofthem are interconnected, or at least kind
of they're they're leaning that way.Like would Boka Boba Fett have existed without
the Mandalorian I don't know, probablynot. Um. That is a really

(40:49):
rough question. I don't because itjust feels like too It's like are you
are you missing out on large chunksof story. It's not just these completely
um remove things that are their own. Because if there was that was the
case, Yeah, I could,I could definitely see cutting some of them.
But you know, I'm I'm aStar Wars fan. Interconnected nerd nonsense

(41:12):
is kind of my or or orworse, what if it was like an
MCU style type thing where it wasall interconnect and you're like, oh,
I'm missing, I'm missing. Yeah, let me let me hold on,
hold on before you can tell you. Let me tweak the question. I'll
make I'll make it a little alittle easier for everybody. Okay, So
instead of uh completely mixing your ummost anticipated show, uh, you still

(41:39):
get the most anticipated show, butyou're disappointed in it? No, man,
see is it? You're just pullingthe old You've altered the deal,
prey it all. Oh, noone can answer the original abator now change
you might as well change it.Um I. Oh, well, I

(42:00):
don't want my answer good? Idon't. I don't. I don't want
to be disappointed. Um I I'mI'm keeping it. I would rather I
don't even know what a question is. At this point, I am yes,
yes, I am all in onbook a boat. That is where

(42:21):
I am at because I I havesome complicated feelings, as I'm sure a
lot of people do. I'm notunique in this way about the kind of
commodification. The Star Wars has alwaysbeen commercialized. You know, I'm not
going to pretend that it hasn't been, but the fact that it's like this,
some of this stuff, to me, it's probably all on my head.
There's a difference between printing all thesedifferent books, legends, books,
especially comics, all this stuff.There's a difference between that and here are

(42:45):
the fifteen shows we're throwing on astreaming service because you know, it's just
Disney owns everything. At this point, Um, there's there's a lot of
kind of uh, concerns I haveabout monopolies and capitalism and sumerism and that
sort of thing. So that areobviously outside the scope of the podcast.
But if I'm looking at things justin terms of, Okay, you're talking

(43:06):
to mostly Canadians here where socialists.Oh my god, please Joe Biden,
just give me. I'll take fivehundred dollars at this point just anything.
Um, but yeah, I uh, he doesn't hear you. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, Iget I got I got you, but

(43:27):
I I got you, I gotyour book a boat. But then it's
hard to because we don't Again,the hard part of a vote, Carlos
question is we don't know. Yeah, we don't and could suck say it
could just yeah. So that's thechallenge is the fact that we for me
to make this kind of decision,I'd have to have a guarantee of quality.

(43:52):
You know. It's like, okay, well, I've sacrificed you know
this this show for these you meanwriting quality or not anything, visual visual
qualities there right, it's I meanwe've seen the proof is in the producually,
it's the it's the storytelling challenges.Yeah. Um, I mean the
three that I'm looking forward to themost are Asoka, because no, no,

(44:14):
what's the one most? And thenthe next three not that easy?
Um. The top the top wasAska, you said, I think Asoka
because Aska has because of her evolutionthrough the through the series. Um,
and she's the character that's I've gotthe motion emotional investment, and I believe
even even more so than some ofthe movie characters, UM, and then

(44:36):
Acolyte because I do like the ideaof Sith magic or force magic, and
but we don't know enough. Sothat's another one of those way right.
Um. After that, I'm kindof up in the air because as much
as I I I'm hopeful for bookA BOT because I really like what they
did with him in Mando. Um. It's not something that I need,

(44:57):
need need, you know, I'veI've got my own little headcare and I'm
curious in what some of the changesthey've made to his character, but I'll
function without it. Um. Andcan you imagine being asked this question,
UM five years ago and being like, mo, I picked Resistance. Yeah
but yeah, so you're not watchingMando. No, I picked Resistance.

(45:21):
Yeah but anyway, but you know, so it's UM. Even though I
haven't always been impressed with the writingof a lot of some of the more
recent stuff i've I don't don't usethe word disappointed, because I've always found
some sort of entertainment into it,or the fanboy in me enjoyed the moment

(45:45):
as I was in the theater orI was watching it. It's when I
put myself in that mindset of pickingit apart that I find myself more disappointed.
Um so that's I consider that aflaw on my side. So if
I could just sit down and enjoyit, it doesn't matter if it's good
or bad quote unquote, it is. It's all about the experience. Um,

(46:07):
let's let's say bad. Let's justsay flawed. Okay, flaw.
There we go, because we loveit, right, Yes, Roster,
Rob Williams, you were you seempretty definitive, real quick. What do
you think you Um, we're answeringthe first question. However, this is
very much a sith question because you'redealing with absolutes. Yeah, we're dealing

(46:29):
with that. Actually, I makea subtle joke on that, because I
think we already do this. Thisis all what happens. This is why
we don't have thirteen thirteen they have. They sacrifice all these ideas to focus
on one idea, and the factthat we have so many ideas now is
quite surprising. So would I sacrificeone for the many? Yeah, because

(46:50):
that's what they do on a constantbasis, is what just he does.
But they've got okay, so mymy, they got soak a bad batch,
Bob. We're the ones that theydidn't use. We're the ones that
we're looking at like the walrus ManPull Ponda Baba Variety hour. I'd watch
that not if only if only youknow what I was saying, Rob,

(47:12):
that sounds right up your alley.Why are you acting like that's a bad
thing? They see that we don't. All right, um so, but
this is what they do. Soyeah, I would not have a problem
because what it does is when youmake one show better, like you have
this awesome thing like Mandalorian was wasit hit? It's a fantastic show,
and it because of Mandalorian, wehave a soak a bad batch. Bulba

(47:34):
canopis right, and it's because ofall that. So they they sacrificed well
in that same vein though because ofthe the box office reaction to Solo,
we don't have the Mandalorian movie.We don't have the Canobi movie, Like,
I mean, yeah, and Ithink there's a there's a flaws in
that system as well, because Ilost my Tron Tron three because of things

(48:00):
that weren't completely involved in drawn tobe honest with you, I mean,
it's just there are other things thatare a factor. And yeah, I
missed that but you know what,guess what I've been hearing. They're talking
about Ron three. So it's amatter of time we eventually get something.
Thirteen thirteen showed up in different ways. We've got all like we talked about.

(48:22):
People have been wanting like old schoolsith history thing since it was mentioned,
and now we're eventually getting it.It's just people are impatient. So
my top list is Asoka and andI want bad Batch in there too,
because me and my son's all ofa sudden into Star Wars like out of
the blue. I've not pushed thison this pushed the religion on him,

(48:43):
and now the Blue he's into itand bad Batch is his top favorite and
he hasn't even seen a single episodeof it yet. But that's awesome.
And again, more to your point, if you wait around long enough,
you will see it. Those thatdon't know I saw Star Wars that are
driving with my parents in nineteen seventyseven. Okay, Anger, we sacrificed
story. I know it's been aminute since I've been here, but I'm

(49:06):
glad that nothing else. We're stillplaying round table BINGO. Are you gonna
take a shot every down? IfI say certain things? So, um,
did everybody get Ben? Did youchime in on your yes? Yeah?
Yeah, we all know the reasonwhy I want to talk back to
Ben. We have real quick ifyou've got something like, real quick,
if we can do I know we'reall along winded. That's why podcasters,

(49:32):
Yes, you have all the diabetes? Yeah, really, real quick,
real quick. I think the thingthat I kind of it goes back to
collecting the thing that I um amfacing right now. Um. I didn't
even think about the fact that Iwould have to probably bring something to talk
about. What if I sat downhere, I'm just like, I'm not

(49:52):
talking about Star Wars for an houror whatever. Um. The thing it
came up with was and Rob,maybe this is something you're thinking about as
well. It's like, how doyou pare down your collection? Like how
do you decide it is a kindof a Marie Condo type thing where it's
like you hold this and it's likeit just really doesn't do it? Just
do it doesn't spark joy? Yeah, it's like it doesn't. It doesn't

(50:14):
do anything for me. Um,and then what do you do with it?
So it's not just a matter ofespecially as someone like me who it's
like even the friends I have whohave kids or whatever, they're not old
enough to appreciate any of that stuff. Um do you just sell it?
Do you try to get something outof it? Do you try to make
someone else's day with it? Like? What is the Yeah? What do

(50:35):
you do? How did you getrid of this? Um? If if
me real quick again, I Idiscussed this even on this very show.
I if I can't display it andthen but I don't. It's it's hard
for me to keep because I'm notgonna go and buy all the new stuff
I have my That's why I'm collecting. I'm trying to finish the the the
vintage figure lying and when I finishit, it's gonna be done because there's

(51:00):
only ninety six now the last seventeenor is super expensive. But when I'm
done, I'm done. Like they'renot. It's not like they're gonna go
back and hop in the door andgo make a thirteenth figure for New Hope,
it's not happening. Even though they'llthey'll they'll keep producing new toys,
but that's not my jam. AndI also I try to keep everything.

(51:20):
I have a couple of guitars hangingaround the house. But Star Wars stuff
stays in my office. If Istarted, if I hung one Star Wars
pitcher in my rec room, wellnow it's just like you open up the
floodgates and just now they're now Ihave way more real estate to put up
Star Wars stuff. So I justagain, for me, if I can
display it, great, if unlessit was something that you know, I

(51:44):
mean, if you know, ifif someone is something that meant something to
me, like if I that Idon't have room for it. But I
don't want to lose it because it'sfrom a friend and it's Star Wars elated
that that's another thing. But forme, if I can't display it,
I gotta do. There's no needto pointn't hab it. So okay,
okay, here's here's what you do. Okay, Ben, it's advice from

(52:06):
from an elderly gentleman to you.You need to get a third job,
all right. This will pay foryour storage unit that's you're going to be
holding on to for the next twentyyears while you get you know, go
into marriage and all that sorts.I'm afraid of. Okay. So by
the time you've you've got that storageunit it sticks with there, it starts
filling up, filling up, fillingup. Then eventually when you do win

(52:29):
that lottery, because that will happen. That's that's how it works. Given
then you can buy a bigger house, have your own man cave, and
then you or just own the storageunit itself and use that as your man
cave. And then there you go. So you don't have to lose a
single thing. You're good. Youjust save everything by more by two of
everything, sir. It's so soso rob. What do you do with

(52:50):
the stuff? You have stuff inyour classt right now? Sure, all
the stuff that's not in the storageunit, what do you want to do
with it? It's not okay.I I got stuff still in my story.
I got a very small space.I pitched a lot of it.
After moving four times within two years, I got sick of carrying all this
crap. Yeah, so hello valuevillage, Hello, good wale, Hello

(53:10):
friends. I started donating, andI donate it because it made me feel
better it I knew it was goingto somebody that would appreciate it, and
and and then I can't kick myself. I wish I had made some money
off of it. Because it wouldpaid for some of the some of the
moving fees. But I part ofme was just like, I gave it
away to people who I think appreciateit. And I know A Neil's doing

(53:34):
that same thing. His basement floodand he's got tons of stuff and he's
selling most of it and then quietlyand then he's giving away some of it
to people that mean something. Andso it's just you can't keep it all.
And that's the hard part is doing, is letting go and h and
just w hold what means what's importantto you? Do that Conda thing.

(53:54):
It sounds silly, but it's actuallykind of true because what you're doing is
you're just talking to yourself saying doI need this? And you know what,
we're in the day, and itis different for us older guys again
because back in the day, therewas no way of getting this crap back.
Once it's gone, it's gone forever. And then Kneebay came,
and then Craigslos came, and thenthen Kennedy has started producing twice two of

(54:16):
everything anyways and vintage for him.So I mean, Jesus, now you
can buy everything all over again andthey'll charge it three times as much.
So just it's you're gonna have toaccept it and just give what you got.
Carlos, what do you do?What do you do with your vast
Lego collection? Like? Does it? That's the thing? Yeah, people,
people, people who know me knowthat I collect Star Wars Lego and

(54:39):
I have a main focus on thetie Fighters. I just love I love
the tie Fighters. I'm missing otherthan the Darth Vader tie UCS set and
the Original Interceptor UCST, I'm missingone tie Fighter set. Wow, not

(55:00):
including the one that's in stock rightnow. I'm just I'm hanging on before
before getting that one. But justbecause before the holidays, I had there's
a list right here of all thesealed sets that I bought and never built.
And I bought them because I boughtthem because that's what you do as

(55:20):
a collector. Because there's no rhymeor reason it says art Lego Star Wars
on it, so you got topick it up. And then at a
certain point, I'm walking in myliving room and I see a pile of
I mean they're nicely stacked, butthey're stacked on the floor of unopened sealed
Lego sets, and what am Idoing with them? So I bought the

(55:45):
razorcrest, I bought the tent Tofour. I bought the Stormtrooper helmet.
I built Boba fet helmet, Ibuilt the tie Fighter pilot's helmet, but
the Stormtrooper helmet. I bought itjust to have all three. But I
don't want the Stormtrooper helmet. SoI sold it. And and like you,
Rob, I wanted to give itto somebody who would appreciate it and

(56:06):
who felt that one hundred and twentydollars was worth it. So that person's
business. Yeah, that's right,that's right, you know. And I
was willing to wait until somebody wantedto pay the price that I was asking
for. So there's it's I'm notforcing anybody to buy the stuff that I'm
selling. I have enough room tokeep some stuff. I have a lot

(56:29):
of Legos still unbuilt in my closet. But those are like gifts that eventually
I'm going to give to my kidsfor getting a good grade on an exam
or or things of that nature.But the bigger sets, like the time
to four. When it first wasrumored, it was supposed to be a
UCS set, and I was allabout it. And then it came out
and it wasn't a UCS set.It was just a really big eighteen plus

(56:54):
UM ship. What does UCS meaning? Ultimate Collector Series? Okay, sorry
about that? Yeah, um soyeah, Lego Star Wars make they make
it. They make a couple ofthose every year, right, so they're
incredible. Yeah they're they're awesome.They're really really good. But I don't
need all of them. I don'tknow. It's it's just so you What

(57:16):
you need to do is understand what'smy real focus? Is my focus with
anything with a Star Wars label?If it is rob get the beep button
ready, it's over. If ithas a Star Wars logo and you need
to have it, then guess whatthat's what it is. Get a storage
unit, do whatever you have todo. But in my case, I

(57:37):
was like, I love the tieFighters. I'm gonna collect the Tie Fighters.
It took me a while to getto that point because I was I
had Cronic Shuttle and I had acouple of the X Wings, which I
really love. I have pretty mucheverything that Poe has been in I have,
um. But now I'm looking atthe collection and I'm like, no,

(57:57):
I could say, I'm gonna probablysell the porg cs Porg. I'm
probably gonna sell um a couple ofother other ships that I don't really need
because the space comes out of premiumand um, I don't want it to
be everything. I want it tobe one thing. Yeah and exact.

(58:19):
That's that's it's like with all ofus and excellent. One word to answer,
by the way, thank um sobut we get you one word right
here, pal Yeah, and againwe all get it. It's it's you
have to focus your collecting or elseit will. It's Star Wars though there's
like don't keep making stuff so youcan just keep mine stuff on great.

(58:40):
Um. Like I said, I'ma limited collector because of limited resources.
But when I recently well not recentlyabout it a little while ago. I'm
a book collector, so I haveI have all the new books, and
I have a lot of legends andmy wife is is the book person of
it. But when we did ahouse purge as well, you know it's
spring cleaning with with viciousness. Um, we gave away and donated and whatever

(59:07):
U some in the area of fortyboxes of books. Um. Because that's
just what we do. And andwe we feed each other's illness because when
we go into a book store togetherand go, hey, I'm gonna go
get this new book, well,then my wife will go, well,
I'm going to get this one,and then well I'm spending a little more
or spending a little less, andwe kind of balance it out, and
by the time we're done, weboth bought like three books. You know,

(59:29):
so he's six books out the door. You know, we've like and
I've read two of them. Butbut so, um, we just see
it comes down to, um,we just get to the point where we
get we just we trip over stuffand we just go, okay, we're
doing a purge. Um. Whenwe move, and we've moved plenty of
times in our marriage, um,we have a standing rule is if you

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help us move and you see somethingyou like and we don't have a strong
emotional attachment to it or a dailyneed for it, please take it,
yes, you know, because otherwisewe're just moving from point eight to point
B. So you know, evenwith some of our our personal collector stuff
or whatever you know, I gavewhen when this last movie is that how
Eric married your daughter or was itEric or was it Eric? Eric?

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Ye? Okay? Is that howit is? To help you move?
And like, oh it's called adowry. Uh no. But when they
moved, you know, back inOctober, I walked away with some cool
some cool gear. But in thewords of Tony Stark, I want to
institute reinstitute primanaka. I've got.I got Eric's old Darth Vader helmet around
here somewhere and some other stuffs,you know. But no, it's and

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as I'm hitting my thirtieth year atUPS, we're looking at my retirement plan.
Um, it's like we're looking atyou know, leaving San Diego,
probably moving to you know, atiny house essentially, so we have enough
stuff to fill a big house.Let's start getting rid of stuff, right.
So, Um, maybe it's becauseI'm dead inside. Um, that's
not emotionally attached to a lot ofstuff. So it doesn't. It doesn't.

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It doesn't take much for me toget rid of stuff, right perfect?
Um, Ben again, great questionon the fly. I'm we ran
out of time. I wasn't.I was going to bring up, um,
the idea of maybe I was reallyexcited with Rob and Ben here too.
We can toss around the idea ofan audio drama on how easy Reason

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and Bidportunea survived the sale bar's explosion. So however after oh yeah, yeah,
exactly exactly. So again, gentlemen, this is awesome. Thanks,
it's it's it's this is one ofthose just hang out and and and chat.
Oh Corey Riley, just trying tomade a good stream everyway to Cory.

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Hey, Riley, we miss youso. UM. I wonder if
you actually was listening to a pressI wonder, yeah, yeah, if
Riley, if you're yeah, ifyou're, make sure you download the episode
so because you'll you were mentioned earlier. Um yeah, gentlemen, thank you

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very much for popping on real quick. If you're listening to this on the
Talk Star Wars feed, make sureto jump over and subscribe to the s
WC plus Roundtable like Star Wars Podcastsfeed because um, rob Way has been
so great. Um, since thispodcast has drifted off on its own,
that we still are released on TalkStar Wars. But if you like what
you're hearing about it it won't beforever, it'll eventually be. It is

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a separate feed, so and eventuallyit'll do. There will be a split.
Riley, Oh god ha, definitelydownloading. So yeah, I'll let
you know Riley when it comes Dow. Um, gentlemen, Um, real
quick, real real quick. Rightaround the table. Where can we find
you, guys, and what doyou guys? Who your social handles or
wherever you want to be found ifif at all great? Okay, you

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can find me uh podcast underscore stsor at Santiago Sabers dot life. Um.
We're getting ready to drop. Ourlatest episode is going to be our
next round of book club where wetalk about the first book in the High
Republic series. Excellent Ben of course, every known go ahead. I do

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want to say that I think Lightof the Jedi is my favorite Cannon.
I think that book is incredible.Um, but hopefully that's not a hot
can't disagree. I'm I'm three quartersof the way through the audiobook and I'm
enjoying it, but it's I wantto see how it ends first cover.

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Um. I think the end isvery good. But anyway, as for
me, you can find me umcommon with lifers uh Sky Harper's podcast.
Um, I guess we're a lifers. I don't know. We tried to
escape, but they just kept suckedus back in. Um, but you
can find us over there or findme over there, um the young um

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Me. I'm on Twitter at veryReliciously. I'm on Instagram a Ferret Breeder,
where I'm primarily just documenting my twentytwenty one reading challenge. It's been
a lot of Star Wars, butnow there's Brandon's Anderson, so I'm probably
gonna slow way down. Um yeah, I think that's all right. Okay,
Carlos. Um, I'm on Twitterand Instagram at Sea Candidal Music and

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at the Funny Carlos. You couldcheck out our podcast, Tumbling Saber podcast
on all the podcast catchers. Uhand now you can become a patron at
patreon dot com slash Tumbling Saber.When we kick the doorback open in a
in a in a few weeks,we're gonna be hitting the mics again,

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so um, stay tuned for that, looking forward to it. Okay,
Rob Williams, all right here,kids, here's what you're doing attuning to
the Generation Next Mew podcast. Okay, um, yeah, so that's where
you're gonna find me. They lookat that brother Side podcast right there.
We're doing episode Andrew like this,our next episodes on Anchor Mann so you

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stay classic sand Also, you canfind me on the Outer Rim Rookie,
Facebook, Twitter, and my OuterRim Rookie show. It's on our YouTube
channel Generation Next from YouTube channel Whe'redoing where I'm just building my knee and
non costume, doing some charity workand currently doing some fundraising for the BC
Lung Association. If you want nomore more information, check out Outer Rim

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Rookie on Facebook or on Instagram.Thank you very much, Rob for everything,
Man, Thank you once again,and you can find myself. I'm
at Robert m mcast on Twitter andInstagram. Check it out there and you
can see all the welcome to me. So yeah, it should be enough,
but it's not. He will bevery disappointed. So for Andreck,

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Ben Carlos, Rob, thank youso much for another awesome roundtable and we'll
see you next month later. TheDetected, The You