Talkamania Episode 228

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Episode Transcript

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D to the A L to theK eight to the M A N I
A. Y'all want no status withthe killers. From Full Press to Talk
Square Circle. Y'all should know wherethe two best put people on show with
love to the whole scene. Nevermiss a show. Get my fix like
a dope being. You know whattrivia the got the ship online, Tie
the belt to the winner, justto sweeten the pipe. If you hear

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about Oscar, you know that thisdast to turn and drink like the boozer
where you lived up That for Commnia, y'all, I came through a slow
road. Quad bis. Y'all wantbeef. That's jail. The wrong guys
putout this podcast, there would beno me. So what I gotta say?
Thank you to the real old jeeves. This is mister K y'all signing
off of the flow. It's timeto turn the mic up and deliver a

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show. Yea lady, then,gentlemen, welcome to another episodic adventure,
The Talk. I went through sometransitions there in my introduction, lady and
gentlemenman and I am there's me noand I am one half of Takamania here

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with Jay Bomb himself. Say Hello, Jay Bomb, how's it going,
buddy? How is your week?How you feeling? I feel like a
sack of shit. Week's been terrible, but it's the weekend, so I
guess that's something which is a nicevibe. Yeah. I did enjoy Helen
a Cell last weekend though. Yeah, Helen a Cell was good man.
We'll get right into that. Um. But I did enjoy my week two

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and I had a really tasty burger. Yeah, it was your birthday about
that because the burger was so good. Sometimes there's things that are so good
that I eat that I have totell somebody I have quit the random text.
It was a good burger. Iwas like, I'm gonna be able
to make it for the recording.We're gonna do it. I was like,
you know what, all the timemy miner now is this burger.
It's fucking good. And Jay shouldknow what? Where'd you buy it?

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Or did you make it? Igot you know what, I've been doing
M and m's. I've been doinglots of M and M bus. I
had get the flyers every week onmy my hot mail, and I just
checked them out and they had theburgers like five dollars off or something and
they have good they'd pretty good qualityburgers. Good food. Yeah, yeah
for sure, yeah yeah, soyeah, so you made it? Would

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you put on your burger? Wedid so burgers were rib burgers. Then
we toast the bun obviously, buton it for dressing lettuce, a cherry
tomatoes that we dice up kind oflike we have them instead red onion,
the hot peppers that they have,you know, the hot peppers, um

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and avocado, and then spicy mustardand ketchup. It was just no mayo.
No, I don't put mail onburgers. I don't put mail on
anything. To be honest with you. Actually, I don't like mayo.
Yeah, it makes me nauseous ifI have too much of it's too eggy.
But I love it on a BLTlike I could not have a BLT

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without it. But I don't liketo go get a BLT and then glob
it on like crazy, like Ihave like a nice layer of it.
I don't mind if I get aburger a restaurant and they put some mayo
in on it, I don't mindthat much. But I I don't know,
man, you if I bought mayo, it would just never be using
my house. I like to shredmy lettuce, take him some mayo and
a little bit of baal samic andmix it together, the shredded lettuce in

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there and then put that all.That's good because you're season lettuce. Yeah,
you're you're enhanced. That's what Ilike to do. I like to
be like, Okay, what canI do to enhance every element of my
dish man? That sounds like agood idea. I might have to steal
that one and try that. Butyeah, I went to a restaurant a
hougan a beaufour. It's a nearnear um with a front to knack or

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I don't know, one of those, like one of those um you know,
like Hushalla got passed around hush Laga, Montreal. Okay, anyways,
so really tasty food. I showedyou some photos of it. It was
fantastic. So me my wife everyyear for our birthday, we treat each
other to a nice meal at afancy restaurant and we try to like surprise

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the other one and pick some goodfood because we'd like to eat good food.
And she brought me to this placeand it was supposed to be like
Canadian rustic or something I don't knowwhat the menu was, but anyways,
it was just very like you know, colorful meals um kind of like tapas.
Like meals are all like kind ofsmaller portions but a lot of components
to it. Really nice presentation.Fuck fuck the oh. Yeah. I

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had a plate with like this reallysmall, thinly cut almost sashimi style lamb,
really really tasty. There was onewith like pickled beats on. It
sounds gross, but you know what, I like beats, so I don't
think it was that gross. It'sactually very tasty. Might have been my
favorite dish of the whole night.But it's funny because you when you got
order your steak in the end,you get the best cut and you get

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like three cubes of the cut andyou're like, oh, I want more.
But I guess that's part of it, right, that's part of it.
Man. Dessert was fantastic. Yeah, I ate really well. I
took the day off and now I'mold. I'm older now, so well
you're older than me. Yeah.I thought I was thirty seven, twenty
to thirty eight, I swear toGod, and I found out that I
was thirty six, twenty thirty seven. Well, listen. Like I asked

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me what how old I was today, and I told him thirty eight,
and then I was like, no, no, no, I'm thirty seven.
And then I realized you're thirty six. Thirty six? Yeah, I
know, right. It's like sometimesI feel like I'm senile, but I
think you just get old and youjust don't care or think about it too
much anymore. Well, I thinkof it like this, right, thirty
is a number. Nothing between thirtyand forty matters. So that's why you

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forget where you are in your thirties. Yeah, I guess so. Also
because we're old as fuck and mybrain cells are pretty shot my memories.
Sometimes I'm in situations right I'm talkingimmediately forgot to forget something when I'm talking,
and I get worried for myself.I'm like, man, that's bad
that I just really forgot what Iwas talking about. Or my daughter.
I was weighing her, right,I had to weigh her for daycare,
so I put her down. I'mlike, okay, eleven point two kilograms,

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awesome, Okay, you can stepoff. I opened up my phone,
I go to type it, andI'm like, wait, what was
it again? Yeah? And Iput her down point two, and then
I almost did it forgot again.It was like, oh my god,
now I know for sure I walkinto rooms and always forget what I'm there
for. Yeah, no, I'mnot kidding. Like I do to work
all the time. I'm so easilymore, that's not that uncommon. I'll

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be made conversation and like my wifewill be talking to me about like her
answer back on what I just said, and I'll be like, what are
you talking about? A game?Yeah? Well, hold on, you're
probably gaming, right, No,no, no, no, no no.
But the thing is, I alsomy mind's always thinking all over the
place, so I think about somethingelse while she's talking, and then like
I go back to her and like, oh, what a minute was I
talking about again? But I stillshould remember that it's pretty bad. M

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Okay, let's do it. Let'sjump into Helena Cell. We both checked
it out this weekend all of thelee. Let me take a quick look
at the card again. Oh greatopener, right, Bianca Belair, Osca
and Becky Lynch quite possibly the matchin the night. Really, it was
really good. I was going back, I was watching that gift of Osca
beating the ship out of Becky Lynch. It's all over the timeline. This
is the past week, all thosekicks and shit. These women are great

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three professionals, and look, man, Bianca found a way to retain her
championship. Pona play a play outof the hands of Becky Lynch by I
guess, like using Becky's finisher butthen throwing out of the ring getting a
pin. So I don't know whoBecky's Bianca's gonna face now moving forward,
but the match itself was great.I don't know if he caught Rod the

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next night though, Oh no,I know who Bianca's facing. She's facing
Ripley. There was a match forthe Number contendership, so I completely forgotten
Ria Ripley's going to a package withBianca. Yeah, there was like a
fatal four way or fatal five way, good match and she ended up winning,
and she will face off against BiancaBelair, which I guess this is

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interesting. It's unique pairing. Youknow. Look what they did to Judgment
Day was stupid. Okay, youmentioned that Rea Ripley had to be the
biggest badass in Judgment Day, andthese guys could have rolled for a really
long time, making re Ripley big, no title, needed none of that

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ship, and then she could havegone after the title eventually. But to
fast forward on Judgment date is quick. Yeah, like, how are they
already? They won and EDGE didn'ttell them to do anything. They legitimately
won by being a good tag teamat hell on the Cell. Okay,
so I'm with you there. Um, I think they could have said a

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little bit more time developing a RiaRipley. Um. The interesting thing is
like, did you watch Raw thisweek? I watched that part of Raw?
Okay, so you know what happenedto Judgment Day? Yes, okay,
all right, right, that's whyI think it's stupid. So a
lot of people are saying this isa knee jerk reaction to Cody being out
long term because they need another babyface. But I also read a report

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that W wants to take the JudgmentDay to be like a supernatural group,
and EDGE was like, nah,this is stupid. Now I went out,
So I don't know which one isreal. But both those stories did
come out. Um, you knowwhat I would have done. I could
see the Cody Rhodes thing be moreplausible, But I don't think we need
Edge in twenty twenty two to bethe baby faces. I know, but

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I think you get a few,right, Like they could have actually like
had Seth flip And how about FinnBalor Yeah, I know right he said
they put him in the group,right, they could have. He's been
waiting for that push forever. Itcould have been a great moment for him.
Or yeah, turned Seth Roman,Seth Ros Yeah, Seth. He
came out like, Okay, firstof all, we've been getting Cody versus

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Seth so frequently that each time I'mlike, oh, man, come on,
guys, just you know, letit go. I don't want to
see another one. And how canyou top it? I don't really think
you can do. This was thebest batch of the three bro. They
took a hell on the Cell match, okay, with an injured Cody Roads
and not just an injured Cody Roads. When he took off that robe,
it was like, the crowd justlooks like, holy shit. So this

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is a complicated a lot of unpack. But Cody Rhodes lost my interest in
a w because of his like wantto prove to the crowd that he's the
toughest motherfucker in the world. Thelashes, I'll never become champion. What
was me? What was mean wasme? It was too much, but
like he didn't need to do whathe did at Hell in a Cell,

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but it fucking worked and they tooka Hell in a Cell match. I
don't know what they had planned beforethe injury, but not much happened in
that match if you really go backand think about it. But everything that
happened was elevated to a million degreesbecause of his injury, and it was
honestly, it was just an instantclassic. So I watched it on Sunday.
I was like half asleep, likeday drank on Sunday, so I

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was like super sleepid in the payper view, and you know, I
was reading how great it was,and I was like, yeah, it
was pretty good. And then Iwas reading how him and saying it was
like the best of three, andI was like, was it? And
then I read today Dave Meltzer gaveit five stars, and Meltzer, you
know, doesn't give them to beany stars because that's what he does.
And I was very surprised that hegave it five stars. I was like,

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you know, what the fact thathe did or the fact that everyone's
saying so much about it. I'mgonna go back and watch it because I
was half asleep. I watched ittoday during my lunch break. It was
a fucking great match. The storytellingwas incredible. They did a lot during
that match they did, and thestorytelle was really good, a lot of
the fine little details they did.Obviously, of course, I think there
is this element of Cody liking toput himself like the self like he likes
to mutilate him, to mutilate himself, like, but he likes to h

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Yeah, he likes to cause thatpain. I can't pronounce that word,
sado mastochist or whatever you want someonelike that, yeah, right, yeah,
And it seems like he likes toput himself through that torture. And
maybe it isn't like an arrogance thingof like look what I'll do. Maybe
he's just fucking weird and he's likemankind and likes to put himself through that
to some degree. I don't know. I remember you to wrestle. We

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used to, like, you know, I wouldn't mind getting hit with the
chair because it was cool to gethit with the chair, like yeah,
but you know, I also grewup. But but Cody aw was doing
it to like the degree where itwas like a Cody, you don't have
to do this, like we wewe acknowledge you, you know. But
when he took off that robe manand then it wasn't a squash match because

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at first I thought it was gonnabe. At the beginning of that match,
he went to the movie. Hewent for the big moves right away.
Yeah, I was like, oh, here we go, you know.
And then it was a way toplay in it too. You're like,
oh, he's gonna and then endedup being this long story like it
was, and it went on andon and on. It was so good.
And then the sledge hammer, thepedigree like it was a lot of
cool stuff. And I will saythis, Hunter Hurst Helmsley might be the

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guy who who likes the sledge ButCody's hit on seth Rawlins at the end
with the sledgehammer, I think wasthe best hit I've ever seen in the
sledgehammer in for us. It wasgreat. I thought he actually hit him
so funny because here we go Codyended up going three and oh versus Seth
Right, he thought it couldn't happen. It wouldn't make sense because it wouldn't
would hurt harm Seth. Obviously it'snot gonna harm Seth. But the fact

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that they did this, like hewent three and oz over Seth Rawlins,
the man who, like Hall ofFamer already, he beat brock Lesterer at
WrestleMania thirty five as well, nottoo many years ago. Like this is
Seth Rollins and he went three andoh over him with a torn peck.
This guy, like they just madehim a superstar in the WB. Like

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he's officially a top top shit nowin w not like he's I'm not saying
he's he's better, bigger than Roman, but like you know that he's number
two. Yeah, he's not amid I mean he's not a mid carter.
That conversation I had, that conversationis dead. They literally made him.
I mean he put in the workand he's he's a start. But
like this was the three and ohwin over seth Rawlins and this match going

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in there and fighting injured, likehe's he's made now he yeah, he
went, he went it did man, he came tow and he's made himself
a stock. And then I thinkabout it, Man, this injury that
happened, Like, Okay, yeah, he's gonna suck, he's gonna have
time on the shelf, but Iguess I spend something time with his family
now, I guess it's on apositive perspective a side of it. And
this guy's primed and ready to comeback for the Royal rumba. How big

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of a pop is this guy gonnaget when he comes back, especially when
like um Seth rollins, you know, shakes his hand and then comes out
and attacks him again. That's gonnagive put a lot of heat on Seth
but also make the pop even louderfrom when Cody returns. Right. So,
like what they did with him sincehe's debuted to now has been phenomenal.

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It's just been like really well done, really well. He's been well
booked, and he's delivered his storyreally well. To me, it's got
to be Roman and Cody and WrestleManiathirty nine or whatever the hell it's going
to be. But Roman removed fromtlc UM. What's going on? Man?

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Oh yeah, buddy the bank,Yeah yeah, they come off by
the bank apparently because they moved itout of an arena. Now it's out
of the stadium. It's not thestay anymore. Oh so Roman can't come,
Yeah, yeah, so, Imean he's tying up two titles here.
I'm feeling a little brock Lessener goingon. Well, they were gonna
bring Brock in for the arena andI think show because it's gonna be like

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a big arena, a lot ofpeople coming. I think they weren't selling
enough tickets or whatever the fucking whateverit was, and because they wanted to
make money the bank, like anotherone of their big pay per views.
I was reading like they wanted tomake it it is though it is,
but it is, But at thesame time, like the way that they've
been using the briefcases, it's it'snot I know it maybe so much more.

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They shouldn't have done it in Vegasbecause nobody lives there. Everybody has
to travel there. They should havejust done it in like New York or
Chicago or uh, you know,Dallas, LA. Even I mean,
do it due to one of thosespots where you know you're gonna get a
sell out. Anyways, but Romanhasn't been on TV and really a long

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time. He's got that later schedulednow I know, but he's he's not
Brock. I think they're priming himinto be the new Bronck or putting that
Brock situation. Hey, tweet peopleget into that role a lot quicker now
it seems like, Yeah, Imean, but he's been around a long
time and Roman has put on alot of done a lot of miles.
He you know, one could sayhe's earned it, but but his character

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doesn't work with that, like acknowledgeme why you're not here. No,
I don't like the title not beingon the show. I've never been a
fan of that. Yeah, aswell, especially for the title, like
both titles. At least we hadthe universal when Brock at it, you
know, and he didn't even havethe wrestle man. He can come out
and just be an asshole or interfereor cut a promo. Did you actually
watch that Savage promo? I sentyou. Yes, it is. Oh

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my god, it was a great. It was amazing. Yeah, he's
started telling the commentators Yeah it workedfor me. Yeah, like telling me,
I don't know what happened to thisguy. What they really should do
if he's not going to be onTV and not be scheduled is just like
high quality videts like AW would dolike a good like six minutes on raw

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of like him at home, nottalking to the camera live, just like
narrating while we were watching shit.That's uh, that's what they should do
with them in the Bloodline. Ohyeah, I just yeah, I don't
know about having the championship. Firstof all, see the Aw's introducing a
new championship, but the triple teamNo. No, So they are going

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to do the triple team belts.I think it's when Kenny returns. They're
planning on doing it. I don'tknow when that's going to be in the
fall. But the no, Ithink it's a North Atlantic Championship. Yeah,
I think that's what it's called.They just randomly announced yesterday there will
be a tournament, the tournament Ready, another tournament for the North Atlantic Championship

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Belt. I will say this,since Cody's come to WWE, I feel
like I see more and more andmore people criticizing AW. I do people
are saying, Oh, Tony CON'snot as good as the book as we
thought. I think it's because oneof one of his soccer teams got relegated

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up to the main league, sohe's got two soccer teams and aw to
work with. That's why he's gotto do the blow to keep up.
Like I will say, well,actually I did chi him into a w
and saw who won the Royal Rumbleor the Battle Royal. Sorry, And
I was really excited about it whenI found out, Oh Kylo Riley it

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was our boy. Yeah. Yeah, But then I like watching Dynamite.
I really enjoy watching Dnamite. It'sa great show. But then Moxley winning,
I mean, what's the point Maxhas been the champion? Well,
we knew it was gonna be Moxleybeating Kylo Riley because I mean, like
what if Kyle goes on to fightsomebody in Japan It would be a great
match. But yeah, let theJapanese guy win. Yeah. Yeah,
maybe it's weird. It's like they'regoing back to their like number one.

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Did you see like at the presscar friends when Cim Punk won the championship,
like Tony Con there was like holdinghands early blowing each other under the
table. Now speaking of see himPunk, Uh wow? What shit?
Luck is that? Right? Hewins a championship and he's got a broken
foot or busted up foot, hasto have surgery, comes out, super

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sad, look like he was aboutto you know, well you'll see he
was crying. I think, fuckhim, Fuck him. And the fact
that he's like, it's gonna bean interim championship. Oh my god,
just like me too, because hecomes out and he's like, I volunteered
to drop it, but Tony toldme not to. Yeah right, yeah,
does like go out there and youcan say that, go out there
and you can say that you like. I don't know, but no,

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Roman is a little annoying. Iwill say that because it was nice having
Roman, who's arguably the best wrestlerin the world, and then to not
have him all the time now islike, oh what are you doing?
And now with with with Cody beingout, I mean, really, Bobby
Lashly got it first of all,Bobby Lashly and almost somehow that match was

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really enjoyable, and I think itwas because of the crowd, Like after
the crowd when fucking Bobby last shegrabbed that guy's title. I don't know
if he went into business for himselfright there, but I fucking loved every
minute of it. And it wouldhave been sick as fuck if if that
was you staying there with the titleonly grabbed it. Yeah, it would
be pretty cool, like that's acall out WWE. I could see Vince
telling people never to do this ifyou're not in the championship picture. And

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this motherfucker grabbed a replica title andstarted jumping around with it, going give
me my fucking shot. There wasanother wrestler. It was a girl who
went like this at Helena Cell.Who was that, I don't know,
I don't I must have missed thatwas. I think it was real Ripley.
Somebody was going like this after bigmoves and shit like that. I

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don't remember who it was because Imean one of their matches was there.
It was Oscar. There was LiveMorgan. If you're singing your women,
Judgment Day was in there, LiveMorgan, Ripley, and yeah, I
think I think it was Ripley.Interesting. Well there you goo, she's
going for the championship against I know, but bro. I really liked the
Judgment Day match. I thought itwas I thought it was pretty good too.

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Yeah, the way that they ended, they were all in sync with
their celebration, their their entrance wasgood. Rea Ripley I thought stole the
fucking show. I thought she lookedlike a million bucks. I don't think
like the combination with Finn Balor isn'tgonna work. Yeah, it might not.
I just like there's I feel likeit needs to have that main leader,
and I don't see him being amain leader. Well he's the shortest

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of the three. I mean,Edge might have been two, but Edge
had that like Hall of Famer.I'm remaking myself, bro, I can't.
I can't watch a w W wherewhere Edge is like the top baby
face. Man. The only thingthat was kind of cool was like nobody
would have called that from No nobodycalled that. I will say that.
I mean that that was out ofnowhere, but it was so out of

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nowhere that it was like this stupid. It would be cool if Balor,
like the night before they were wrestling, like they lost and then at the
end of match, like Finn turnedon them and joined them, and then
they go out and there's gonna bea new member, and then Finn's like,
there isn't going to be a newmember, you know, and then
like then the attack Edge and itwould have been ten times better that way.

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Yeah. Yeah, but I thinkthey wanted to like to surprise people
and like say, hey, wehave a new member, tune into RAW.
I don't know, they're still gooddone that, Yeah they still could
have done that. Yeah they stilllike Finn Balor first of all, Finn
Balor live and AJ was cool.Is AJ hurt? See the blood?

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Yeah? It's pissing blood? Yeah? I mean I don't even know.
I was trying to go back andlook and see when it happened as well
too, and I couldn't even findout. But the pay per view was
good, like even honestly, madCap. I don't know, man,
now that he's not where in thesys, he looks he looks really good,

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a little bit more believable. Andhe beat at a corp which was
nice. Austin Theory and mustaf AULI, who gives a shit? I don't
get that. I don't get it. I that was I definitely didn't pay
attention during that match, But everythingelse is really even Ezekiel and Kevin Owens
was really good. So did yousee what happened on Rod this past week?

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No? I didn't do Okay,I love this just because I love
cown Owens and the way that heanswers and the way he acts is very
like it's not like, yes,I'm angry. He's just like he's very
real. You know. It's almostlike a curb your enthusiasm conversation when you
talk yeah yeah, yeah yeah.Um here, I'll just you can play

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this and you can you can popthat in. I think it's uh,
it's for the right time as welltoo. Right, let's see here you
challenge me twel one on one matchand Helena Salad. In my short career,
it was the most important match inmy life, but I fell short.

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I didn't get it done. MaybeI was a little too zeked up
and he got to move forward.And if there's one thing I'll learn from
my older brother Elias, it saideveryone deserves a second chance. So,
Kevin, I want to rematch nextweek, Kevin Owinds versus e Zekel.

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Why would I give your heart alreadybeat you like? You know what?
You know what. I'm in sucha good mood after beating the hell out
of you last night. I'm feelinggenerous. I got this voice. We're
good. You want to rematch nextweek? You got it? Buddy?

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There you go on to one conditionyou want that rematch, you need to
admit to the world, right,now that you are a lias. Admit
it. Tell the truth and youget your rematch. You're a lias.
Tell them, shut up, youidiots. Okay, you got me,

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Cab, I admit it. That'sa good start. It's not enough.
No, no, you admit whatsay it? Say it and look at
me when you say it. It'snice. I admit my name is a

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liars. I know it. Iknow it. I told you, I
know it. I told you idiots, I told you idiots watching him.
I know it. I'm not theliar. You're the liar. You're a
liars. I know it all along. I'm a genius. I was right
when Oh okay, so do Ihave my rematch? Yeah? Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, you have yourrematch. You want me to be down?
Hell out? Are you again nextweek? No problem, buddy,
you got your rematch Halias. Wowwow, I didn't think it would be
that easy. I mean, Kevin, I knew you were thick headed,
but that's embarrassing. All I hadto do was take a page out of
the Kevin on One's playbook. Butwhat what what are you talking about?

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What what are you talking about?I live, I'm a zinky I love,
I love it. I feel likeit's a little like Larry David in
him. You know, dude,I can't believe that he could get this
over. It's just and and he'sbeen the same guy the entire time,

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I know, all the way backto like you know, the list of
Jericho and best friends and all thatkind of shit. He cut a great
promo after the match of the ZekielToo, where the lady came over and
talked to him and asked him hiscomments post match, and like he started
talking about like I came out hereto look at the sunset, but the
sun that's not setting because the sunhad already set or something. And he

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just made it like this joke aboutthe sun setting, and he's like,
and now I will walk into whatshould have been the sunset or something.
And it was just like he's justhe's ridiculous. He's funny, man.
I honestly, I did not likeElias. I'm a big fan of his
Zekiel I, Like I thought,I've always thought that he was a good

(27:41):
a character. He was good.He was funny, charismatic, but the
wrestling was like, you know,but his wrestling is better, all right,
It's more it's more interesting well,it's a lot of the same things,
right. He even says like hebe like you do that, you
do that move? Elias did thatmove? Like he's called out things like
that before. I'd like to likethey're making fun of the fact that they
rename people, rebrand people, right, they do it, and and they

(28:03):
think we're stupid, but like weknow, you know, and we'll actually
make a story out of it,you know, like there otherwise it would
not be able to say it lieson TV. Do you think that he
was actually supposed to be rebranded asEzekiel and this like was actually a plan
and then Kevin Owens just kind oflet it slip, no, like ad
lib something, and they kind ofran with it. But really he was

(28:26):
supposed to come back as a zekolmaybe maybe because they weren't really saying a
lies too much in the beginning,So it is possible. I am surprised
that Kevin hasn't like been like,here's a guitar, or bring a guitar
near him and be like play theguitar or something and him trying to play,
pretending to play it. But it'sit's so ingrained in his soul that
he ends up being really good orsomething. Yeah. Yeah, maybe it's
getting to that because I think they'regoing to continue their feud, right,

(28:48):
and people are joking that it's like, oh, I went from stone cold
Steve Auston to Ezekiel. Yeah,I mean on paper, it's a pretty
big shift. But I mean,how do you follow up big from stone
cold Steve Auston? Right, hehad great mattress unquote a buston main event
of WrestleMania, And this is agreat program. It's a lot of fun,
and I'm sure he's having fun withit, you know, like I
know. And also you might lookat Ezekiel, we're like, oh he's

(29:08):
mid card or bottom of the card, who knows it? Maybe backstage Kevin
and Ezekiel are actually good friends andit's fun for them to be working today.
They have really good chemistry. Soyeah, yeah, I was listening
to Busted Open. They were talkingabout how good of a hand Kevin and
um Sammy Zinar and how they couldliterally be used and trusted in pretty much

(29:30):
any storyline. I mean, KevinOwens is over, doesn't need a title,
doesn't even need to be in thetitle picture. I don't look at
him as a mid Carter. Ilook at him as a top guy that's
just doing something different. Yeah,that's it, Like I definitely do Yeah.
Oh Page announces or WWE departure.So yeah, July seventh, I
read that she wants to go backinto the ring. Okay, that's smart.

(29:52):
Yeah, good luck sweetie. Shecould kill her. So yeah.
I mean it'd be a good,good topic on the show. There'd be
some good content. Then that's prettymuch all of hell in the Cell.
Really it was good though, Likepeople were like, oh, it was
such a bad pay per view.I'm sitting there going what man Like,
I was thoroughly entertained, and especiallycoming after after Double or Nothing like Double

(30:15):
or Nothing was really good too.So to follow it up with, you
know, questionably almost a nothing payper view and only having one one Cell
match and the so much was kindof ruined because the injury, it was
still really fucking good. Well,we do have money in the bank on
the horizon. I'm just wondering whoyou think should win the money in the

(30:38):
bank this year. Well, I'llbe honest with you, I feel like
because Roman Reigns has it, Ifeel like money in the bank this year
is going to be six, likesix of the top guys. I want
to see like Bobby Lashley in there. I want to see Seth Rollins in
there. I want to see KevinOwens in there. Who else could go
into that match? Well, Iam reading and I think SmackDown's about to

(31:02):
kick off shortly, and I guessthat's why that's on here. Um,
the first participants in the Mind theBank Ladder will be determined. It's gonna
be Drew McEntire versus Shamus. Whoeverwins this goes on to win the money
in the bank. Please, Well, you know what, here's two things.
I hope it's Drew because again,going back to your fact, I
want to have a lot of bigguys in there. It sounds not almost
sexual at all, but I wantto see a lot of big guys in

(31:22):
there. And uh, but thething is, Shamus is actually pretty entertaining
him these ladder matches. Shamus isvery Shamus is very good in every match
he's in there. Yeah no,I don't know, man, he's rough
and I kind of like it,but he is really good, and yeah
he does. He does stand outin these latter of matches. So I'm
totally like it's fine other way eitherway, and like maybe Shamus could be

(31:44):
somebody who wins that money in thebank briefcase, because otherwise I don't really
see how he's going to get himselfthe championship again if he does, but
he's the perfect guy to be thatvillain who cashes it in, you know.
So yeah, but I don't know. I have a feeling this year
it's gonna be somebody who's gonna justcall out Romanum because he's not there all

(32:05):
the time now, so like theycan't really take advantage of the situation.
I don't know. I like,why not have a guy like Kofe Kingston
be in this match and win andthen let him baby face for a while.
I would be totally down to haveKobe Kingston win this because again,
like I have a feeling that he'snever gonna get in the title picture ever.
Again, they gave him his flowers, and you know, I think
Biggie can maybe work his way backin there. But Kofe, I'm a

(32:28):
little bit worried about. I thinkhe would be a great person to have
that briefcase, but I also feellike he would be somebody to get that
briefcase and then not succeed and he'dbe one of those statistics. I could
see it. I could definitely seeit. I mean, I'm looking through
the roster right now. I feelthe need to have that little bit more.
They need to have the failed cashionsa little bit more. That way,
you don't always see coming. It'sbeen hesitant failed for a while now,

(32:51):
No, miss you didn't he okayfor like a minute, well a
week or something like that. Yeah, but still he still win. AJ
Styles could be the ladder match.Yes, aj Styles should be in this
match. Absolutely. I want tosee aj have one more title run at
least um, but yeah, Ireally do hope it is. And then
the women's side, we have LacyEvans versus Zaya Lee. So I imagine

(33:14):
Lacy Evans is gonna win this becausethey're bringing her back. Finally she's having
her first match I think tonight,which I guess this is it. So
Lacy definitely could be somebody who winsit because she comes back and they want
to push her strong. But LacyEvans promo the other day when she came
out jerm Memorial Day was absolutely someof the worst shit I've ever seen her

(33:34):
do. I might have missed thatone, but they've been because her putting
on rob putting her on SmackDown.They I think they're gonna they're looking at
like she's gonna be a face,but I think they're gonna flip her and
make her a heel to surprise people. So I don't know, but I
think if we're gonna talk about awomen's money the Bank winner, I would
absolutely like it to be Live Morgan. And I'm not like the biggest Live

(33:57):
Morgan fan, but I feel likethey would be missing out an opportunity because
I think, you know, Beegets a really bad rap about not building
women up in terms of like demosuperstars. I feel like Live Morgan has
been a little bit of an exceptionwhere they actually had invested a lot of
time in her and putting a lotof key spots. She had matches with
Becky, she had you know,tag team title run, she was with

(34:20):
Ria Ripley, like, she hadall kinds of cool stuff, and right
now she's with aj Styles and Balorddoing the club you know. So I
feel like when she finally does win, it would be such a big moment.
But I don't know if she cando it. Without that money the
bank briefcase, I think she can, but I'm wondering if that w W
would do it. So I don'tknow if she'd be my number one pick,
but I do believe that she couldbe definitely be a good candidate to

(34:44):
win it this year. Who's thechampions? Ronda Rousy and oh Bianca Blair
and Ronda Rousi's feuding with what wasRaquel Gonzalez at first, so the whole
So going back to the whole thing, it was supposed to be Sasha Banks
versus Ronda Rousy. Okay, andRonda was going to go through Sasha and
Sasha I guess didn't like that didn'twant to work with Ronda Roussey. So
that was also part of it.So Ronda ended up working with like Raquel

(35:07):
Gonzalez, who's now Raquel Rodriguez.Yeah, and then there was a number
one contendership match um or there wasfor the championship last week, and it's
gonna be Nattie Hart Naddie Hart versusuh Ronda, Like really really so we
want to see, like, Ilike ailed the history there, I know
all that, but like they've doneit before, these girls and Tally's not

(35:30):
gonna win and I don't know,man. Yeah, it's not not entertaining,
man, it's not interested in hertitle run at all. She should
have been against Becky. It shouldhave been on Raw. I don't know,
man. And now she puts outtoo, so theirs she's well,
I don't know if she'll be backsoon, but she is. I guess

(35:51):
it was a storyline injury, butshe went and got married with Trade.
Yeah, he just came back lastweek, so maybe she'll be back soon
as well too. But she's sellingan injury that when she dropped the title
to Ronda Rousey. Yeah, she'slike now out for a bit, so
maybe she's just taken a break.Well. I don't know who's all going

(36:12):
to be in there, but Ifeel like it's gonna be big winners this
year. I hope so. Andthen imagine watch on the Men's when Brocklester
comes out and wins it again.I don't I don't know if i'd be
upset. I think at this pointI would because he doesn't need it.
He just come out and be like, I'm coming for your title, Robin,
and go after it. But honestly, if they if we go like
around Russelman next year and we findout it's Brock versus Roman again. I

(36:36):
was super down for this year.It was great tell versus a title,
but I don't want it again.And apparently the dirt sheets I'm reading are
like they're talking about it as ifit's not even a question. It's going
to happen. They just don't knowwhen. So like that's a little bit
crazy. But I know Riddle isgoing is challenging Roman for the title.
He already made it clear on Rawor SmackDown or whatever, and I think

(36:59):
that'll be on like a TV show. I don't think it's going to be
on a pay per view. Thelatest I'm reading is that it might be
Roman reigns versus Randy Orton at SummersSlam. So actually hurt, maybe his
back snag banged up, he's takingsome time off. I don't know what's
going on. Bailey, I don'tknow. I'm waiting put her in the

(37:21):
money in the bank briefcase, butI mean, I don't know. I
mean, on one side, Icould see Bailey kind of walking out the
briefcase every week being fun, butlike I also hate that when the person
just carries it around every single week, and it becomes their gimmick. It's
kind of like almost like a Kingin the Ring gimmick. You know,
well, it's kind of what itis. Yeah, I guess. I
guess why win the title? That'sthe gimmick they get, right, I
guess. So so yeah, butlike really excited, you know, you

(37:44):
and I talk about Money in theBank being one of our favorite pay per
views of the year. Really exciting, just as long as they do something
relevant with the title, I guess. But look, did you see this
past week on Raw Becky Lynch inthe mix for the twenty four seven title,
I heard you got pin? Ididn't have brook she did has been
pinned on TV in like four years, and Dana Brooks one days crazy.

(38:07):
I bet you Becky's like wanted togive that to Dana, To be honest
with you, I don't think shewas probably salty belts like, yeah,
okay, but what does this mean? Is Oscar coming out? I guess
either, Well, they're clearly pushingOscar and Becky at some more, which
they have great matches. It's fine, But twenty four seventh title, why
did they have to? You know? But what would have been awesome.

(38:30):
I thought about is everybody made ajoke about that twenty four seven. It
was the internet joke. It wasall aw found. Everybody makes fun of
it, right because it's like ajoke. You have the weddings they've had,
and you know just the amount oftitle reigns that Our Truth had.
What if Becky did win it andthen made it like a legit title were
like she she has matches for it, like regular matches every other week,

(38:52):
puts the belt on the line,puts could put it online of pay per
views, but also can be attackedand pinned, you know, at any
time. And if they don't getcheesy with it, which I don't think
they couldn't do, that's the problem. But they had it like a regular
championship where she would have matches andstuff, but also once in a while,
not all the time, once ina while throwing a statement or recorded
thing from like you know, wherevershe is where somebody tries to get the

(39:15):
one up on her, but she'salways fucking tough, kicks her ass,
you know, escapes or pieces ofshit of them, and holds onto that
title and holds it on that titleforever. And it could become a thing
where she gets paranoid and crazy likemy preciouss and make that title actually something,
and then Becky could say, notonly did I reinvent myself, I
made this title means something, youknow, And there could be ways where

(39:37):
like maybe like you know, oneof the dudes tries to get it off
her and it makes her look toughbecause she kicks the guy's ass or something
like, I don't know, butlike she could actually I believe Becky could
actually make that title something if sheIf they want to move forward with that
idea, she should win it highersecurity mmmmmmm to protect her. Elevate the

(40:02):
security whoever that is, you know, two NXT girls or something like that,
or even two NXT guys, andthen she should just be like so
big time that she gets the titleremade and looks like a million bucks and
then holds on to it like it'sher precious and starts losing her mind later

(40:22):
when it's the downfall of Becky lunchand she could leave and come back and
reinvent. I feel like, weguys submit this idea seven Champion. It's
it's so beloved. Why would youdo anything to change it? That would
be a great idea, love it, it would be good. How are

(40:45):
we in time? Well, ifthere's anything you want to do before you
wrap up, we're like at fortyminutes. Yeah, I hear my kids
screaming, So you're like keep going. What else we got going on in
the wrestling world? We talked Littlea w We talked to him cell,
We talked roster. Jaff wasn't onDynamite this past week? Oh well do

(41:09):
would you? What's going on here? What is it like? Because Tony
was on Busted Open Wednesday and againthey tried to get a little bit out
of him and he just keep saying, like I can'd of talk about that,
and like I don't know. ApparentlyWarner was at the broadcast and they
weren't happy about it, and likethat. You know, they're going as
far as removing him from the roster, and they're going as far as removing

(41:31):
his merchandise. But if you're gonnago that far, like, well then
why haven't you released him? Youknow? Like so obviously I feel like
it's something where like it was realmaybe m Jeff used it to his advantage,
sat down with Tony, renegotiated andthey're like, okay, well,
now now let's turn this into astory, take some time off. That's
that's definitely they had general concessus ofit. Um, there's gotta be some

(41:57):
truth in there. There has tobe some because I don't see why they
would just go down that path fornothing. And I'm but I'm also wondering,
like why wouldn't they have him onTV or even mentioned in this week?
There's like no mention of him.I think, I think, okay,
if he goes two weeks, maybe, but there's been episodes of Dynamite
without MJF and then this might havebeen you know, Sampunks Night, and

(42:20):
um, you know, focus onthe championship title. Give John Moxley his
his shit. I mean, Idon't know. It's tough to tell.
Well, yeah, now they're goingback to John Moxley. They give it
Adam Cole the that championship belt,the heart championship belt. He doesn't walk
around with it, does Yeah?They do? Ye? Does he have
to defend En? I don't know, because then what happens next year?

(42:40):
Do you have? Are you maybein the tournament next year? I always
thought that was a good idea,like you should have to defend it the
next year, like the King ofthe Rings should be in the King of
the Ring the next year. Heshould just be the guy in the finals
again, Yes, yes, yes, that should be the advantage, or
like sevents, he's got to winone more matchress or something like maybe maybe

(43:00):
yeah, could be there. Yeah, I'm looking at the w W roster.
Elias is on it and so isEzekiel. No way, yeah,
they're both in their side by side. Oh my god, that's awesome.
It's crazy though, because Elias isso much more Jack than Ezekiel. You
know, like one of these weeksthey're gonna say, no, who's board

(43:20):
jacked Elias? Yeah, Lias waslike meaty jacked. If if somehow this
has been the biggest cover up everand Elias actually does have a twin brother
and it's been a Zekiel I willI don't know, I will, I
will do whatever. Everything so sothe same, I know, But it

(43:43):
would be so good if if theycould do some special effects or something.
Man, they gotta find a way. They gotta find a way or have
like his their father come out andhe's like super old um, but for
him, I would love to see, like how how how I can see
Kevin coming out and be like,Okay, next week, I want you

(44:05):
guys both here at the same time, or I want to see it life
next week. I honest see whatthey're gonna do because they're gonna have to
eventually go further with this thing,I don't know, or they might just
drop it out of nowhere. Theycould maybe he could just fucking it would
suck. But yeah, I don'tknow half the people on this roster.
Man, I guess they're on xT two point oh two point Now.

(44:28):
Who's Max Dupree? Oh, that'sl A Night. They renamed him,
which I thought Eli Knight was afantastic name, A great name, mister
Stone Magel McGuinness. Anyway, thatis and know him. Dar still on
the w W roster. He's inan x T UK I believe. But
yeah, he's the guy that's justlike making the most out of it at

(44:50):
page is still on this list?Is he Will Osprey showed up in aw
did he? Yeah? Is hegoing to be part of the big part
of the that in North Atlantic Championshiptournament that they have going on. It's
like they're gonna be like two peoplefrom New Japan in the tournament. I
think he might be one of them. But it's funny because he craps on
like you know, mainstream wrestling,and then he shows up in aw But

(45:12):
you know why the reception wasn't massive. People don't let the people kne who
he was. No one knows whothe fuck walls phrase. I mean I
think they should. I think he'sone of the better wrestlers in the world.
Yeah, but he he was.He was a mid carter when Cody
and the Bucks were in New Japan. And to me, if you didn't
make it to a w when Codyand then the Young Bucks went over,

(45:36):
your ship is sailed. Bro.Only reason why people cared about New Japan,
the way that they cared about NewJapan, was because of Cody in
the Bucks. That's why Jericho wasthere. That's why well, Omega,
I don't know, that's yeah,Omega, but Omega, Cody. I
mean, we were staying up untilfucking five in the more over there because

(45:59):
I think of Omega. I think, you know, and the Young Bass
might have went over there because ofhim and you guy as well too,
Maybe not, I don't know.I don't know. I think the Young
Bucks were there with Omega must allright, fair enough, but Cody definitely
went over for that. Cody washuge. That's why like Cody leaving AW
man, like, that's why Ididn't believe it. I didn't believe it

(46:19):
until the moment he put his musicin Rusting. I'm telling you, even
for weeks, even even now,I don't think I'm actually like, it's
kind of weird. It's weird.It's still weird for me. It's like,
are you what are you going home? Like whenever? When are you
going back to AW? Are youhere for for a while for a month?
You know? And especially with thetattoo, because the tattoo almost looks
like an AW logo when I lookat it, even though I know it's

(46:42):
not, but it just screams AWto me. It's like he went and
did that, like he did everythinghe could to get over in AW in
the and and yeah, I meanhe got his back turn on him.
Yeah, man, sometimes you can'tget over. Do you hear the story
about Logan Paul talking to Vincent manno, and when he was going to
work with the WWE and with themiss and stuff, and he's meeting with

(47:06):
Bitswick Man he's like, so,you know, who are you? What
have you done? You know kindof thing. He's just like, dude,
I'm I have like the number onepodcast in the world. Yeah,
And Vince didn't say anything, andlike he was like just super unimpressed about
it. And he was like,can you imagine that? Like, I
like, that's man. Eh,He's like, yeah, not not impressed.
What the fuck is up? He'sa gangster man? Yeah, yeah,

(47:29):
he is a gangster. He's so, who the fuck are you?
Yeah, you're not a wrestler.What is that? Yeah? He hasn't
been back since the misturned on him. I guess he owes him one.
But it's weird. I thought Iwas gonna see him back sooner. He
see it was gonna be more fulltime. So maybe things didn't work out.
I don't know. Maybe, yeah, I guess. So, dude,
Maurice is back. She's been backbefore, dude. I don't know.

(47:52):
Man. She looked mighty fine thispast week though. Yeah. Yeah,
saw that gift was quite nice,giff fantasy gift. There's a gift
of her like with her big boobiesout her Tongu's going like, oh really,
yeah, I watched um I watchedthe reality show sometimes because it comes
on right after raw very often,all right after wrestling. It's not bad,

(48:14):
I guess, but like it's horrible, but it's okay. Yeah,
but I think now a lot oflike you know, like when you get
into further seasons, you just startrealizing that, like the really faking stuff.
Oh my god, that was thatshow from season one. Yeah,
I guess I guess that was thefake. It's gotten so much worse.
I guess I could say that he'slike, I'm gonna go pick up a

(48:34):
cake and the dad drops the cake. Yeah. You know you're like,
okay, well, all those showsare crap, but they're like junk food,
right, yeah, it is.It is. It's junk food,
all right. All Right, thatwas nice, short and sweet, uh
mini episode of Takamania. Guys,we just wanted to shoot the shit,

(48:55):
talk about a hell Miscelle, talka little bit about our injury for you
know, the big aims into wW. Got Cody Rhodes this big return.
He as a WrestleMania. Now he'sgonna be on the shelf for a
little while. Hope you come backaround Royal Rumble time and does this mean
another match with Seth rawlins. Ithas to no, I know, how

(49:15):
could you escape it that? Ifhe comes back, it goes back to
unless like he comes back in theRoyal Rumble, goes to WrestleMania, wins
the title. The next night,Seth comes out and he's like, we
have someone finished business. Yeah,and or Seth could just be in the
ring when he comes out at theRoyal Rumble. Yeah, I guess so

(49:37):
yeah, yeah, that could beit too. Yeah, because again,
like I feel like if they doface off again, Seth going to half
to win this time, said thatthree times and you're gonna have him,
you know, win right after Codycomes back. So uneatable. We talk
about that Triple H comeback where hetore his squad. Want to be one
of the massive returns at John Cena'sWealth Rumble is huge. I wonder how

(49:58):
big this one's gonna be. Ithink, you know, it's a bump
of the road for Cody Roads,but it's only gonna make his comeback more
triumphant. And uh, you know, punk We'll see with him though,
you know, we'll see what thatdude, what goes on? So Kfave
tweeted out today that he's he missesuh Trivimania, and he called out cast
and said, we should do it. We should do it. We just

(50:19):
need to find we just need tofind our our extra contestants. I have
the questions already finalized like months ago. I could I could tweak them up,
maybe out some other things. I'vebeen noting down some more modern questions,
which is pretty cool. I comeup with some, um but yeah,
we should. We just got tofind some people. And I know
we can because these guys are intournaments where people are involved. I might
want to join the Takamania fund.So we should do it. We should

(50:42):
do that. We should get onthat. Maybe we could do we can
plan something for July. Let's gofor it. Let's do it, all
right, all right on behalf ofTalk of Mania. Jay bombs out des
say bye Roll Save Day. Theymake in the North Atlantic Championship. Just
from Miro, I'm telling you,they're giving Adam pay Adam Cole this this

(51:05):
Owen Heart belt. They're gonna givethe other belt, Amro. Do you
think so? Yeah? Yeah,they're doing that now. So it'll be
a pure WWE we can't put youin the main event. But we can
give you something. You're gonna We'regonna put you in a tournament. You're
gonna win that tournament. We're gonnagive you a belt. I don't know.
All right, Ladies and gentlemen,Peace,