April 9, 2023 • 33 mins
It's high time we all admit that sometimes, Orko is really cool. ESPECIALLY when the Four Horsemen are working on him. That's right, folks, Orko has been redeemed! Thw 200x line of Masters of the Universe really knocked this one out of the park. How far out of the park? Listen and find out!
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Welcome to Talking Toys with Taylor andJeff, where we go back in time
to discuss our favorite toys, onetoy line at a time. Hello,
and welcome to Talking Toys with Taylorand Jeff. Action Figure Exclusive. I'm
Taylor and I'm Jeff, and we'rehere to talk about the Masters of the
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Universe two thousand X line and we'rehere to talk about a figure that Shocker
I have in my collection. Youdo have, that's right. I bought
one of these because I wasn't sureif you had it, and you did
have it, and I said,okay, well even if he does have
it, it's cool and I'll keepit for myself. Folks, we're talking
about Orco, and Orco has beenthe butt of jokes, you know,
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since since he came into being,and I think rightly so. But starting
with the Four Horsemen, I thinkthey've started to make Orco cool. And
regardless of what you think about theKevin Smith Netflix cartoon series that that came
out last year, I guess itwas it was kind of a saving grease
for me. Do Orco in thein the show? Yeah? Yeah,
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oh absolutely, That's what I'm sayingit Regardless of what you think about it
what they did with Orco. Theysort of redeemed Orco and made him a
really great character in that show.This character. So the two thousand next
version, especially in the cartoons,he he does have some of the you
know, vintage he Man cartoon sortof it's still the same character. Yeah.
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Yeah, But in the comics.So what they did with the comics,
and um, I've got I thinkit was in the Shart of Darkness
they talk about like where he losthis magic and how and then they actually
in that particular story, he getsa magical shard that makes him very powerful
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and seeing seeing what he could dobecause he was like he was revisiting who
he was on Traula. And Iabsolutely love that story because it shows how
powerful Orco is in his own dimension, Right, He's incredibly powerful. But
here, unfortunately, because of aI think he had lost like an amulet
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or something that he had on hisbody when he landed here, he was
not able to focus that power exactly. Yeah. But yeah, but this
and this, uh, this fourHorsemen figure really leans into that that power.
Um, so let's let's just talkabout it. Let's go ahead and
dive and say you have one ofthese, right, Well, you'd of
course you do, because that's whyI still have mine. Yep. So
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let's talk a little bit before wetalked about the figure, let's talk about
his accessory. This little stand that'sgot the little it's it's a blue stand
that looks sort of like it's itlooks like water splashing out and it's got
a like an orange orb inside ofit. Can you explain to me what
this is supposed to be? Yeah, So it's like it would be like
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like power, like magical power comingup from the ground and shooting a fiery
orb. And I think it's supposedto be like a little like lava or
a fiery orb that you know,shoots out. So the cool thing about
this is that you get two differentversions. There's their repaint where Orco changes
a little bit in color, andso you get the reverse where you get
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an orange with a blue ball init later on, which I mean it's
I think I prefer the blue withthe orange on it, just because it
feels more like like a lava shotbeing shot out of the earth. It's
a simple mechanic. The ball isactually like pressed in and it has like
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a little spring that holds it inplace, and when you hit on this
back plunger, the ball actually shootsout and it can knocker the figure you
do where it's pretty powerful. Itis it's and it's it's it's a hefty
little you know, it's it's.It's it's hollow plastic, but it's a
hefty little piece. And it's anice texture and everything and all translucent.
Even the orange ball has a certainbit of translucent to it, so if
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you were to put a light infront of it, it actually looks like
it'll glow like it's mad. Yeah, it's really cool and and that's that's
his his main accessory. He's alsothis is one of those few figures it
comes with a stand and the standmatches the that that launcher as well.
It's the same blue dark blue plasticthat's sort of wavy, and it's got
a post in it that you justsit him down on, so it looks
like he's floating. Yeah, wellthe post is actually built into him,
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so that's okay. I could.It's been a while. Mine is still
packed away, so it's been awhile. So I didn't remember if he
came off the post or not.Yeah, the on on this one,
so they they later did it wherethe posts would come off of them when
they did classics, and I believethe origins is kind of the same where
I think the post comes off,but with this particular figure, the post
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is actually built in. It's builtin as a part of the articulation.
So the stand will turn, soyou can turn, you know, the
stand anyway you want on a swivel, and there's some like magic you know,
that kind of swirls up in places, so if you want to put
the swirl to the front of them, you can, or if you want
to like run it behind them,you have that option as well. But
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it is actually built up into them, and no matter which way the stand
works, it still balances the figuringquite nicely. Yeah, it really does.
It's not not flimsy at all.I say one other thing I forgot
to say about the stand, andit's something that we hadn't talked about with
all the figures, but on alot of these first wave figures, in
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some of the second wave figures,in the stand you can see because it's
translicent plastic, but more so orcothan any of the other figures, there's
a chip inside that works with CastleGray skal And I bring that up because
when you look at the figure atthe stand you might see a few pictures
you'll see a chip in there onany of the first release orcos that have
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that blue and orange magic ball sortof thing with them. The second wave,
I believe they drop that out ofthere, so it ends up having
like this little square, empty pocketon the stand. But Orco does have
a chip that is able to interactwith Castle Gray Goal. So when you
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bring the figures up to the gateand Castle Race sculls on, it recognizes
Orco as a hero and would lethim in. Okay, very cool,
Yeah, very cool. So whilewe're talking about the accessories, let's talk
about his wand too. The wandis interesting because it's it's it's got your
typical staff and it's like a goldyellowish oranges golden plastic. But at the
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top of it, it's got thisround it's it's like a rounds piece,
and it's it's hollow. It's it'sa hollow in the center, so it's
sort of shaped like a don't nutum And I don't know if mine actually
can. I don't think mine camewith that, So I don't have any
experience with that. So how howpliable is this or how sturdy is this?
Is this? Uh, this one, it's for the for the most
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part, it's it's almost I wouldsay it's as firm as has Rose New
Fortnite, you know weapons for theirfigures. It's it holds its shape,
but it's still pliable. So ifyou have it in a spot where it's
warm and it's kind of pressed upagainst something, it will start to bend
over time because it's it's still pliableenough to go into the hands. And
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some of that's just because it's thinand it's it's kind of a metallic plastic
right um. You can bend andtwist and stress this very easily. So
it's it's it's not the sturdiest weapon, but it's sturdy enough. Like it's.
It's not it's not something that you'reafraid it's going to snap or break
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or destroy itself like it it takesa little bit of power to manipulate it
and to break it or to reallypush it in that level well, and
it stays in his hand pretty welltoo. From what I can see,
his right hand is it's sort offormed to hold it, yeah, And
the way to put it in hishand is actually just from the bottom of
the staff to slide it into hishand. And it works perfect because it
kind of tapers down at the endand the handle it looks like it's it's
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got some really cool design work onthe handle. Let's get some ridges.
But is there some intricate design workon the at the top of the staff
on that ring that I'm saying,yes, yes, So there's there's a
few areas of this intricate work.So you've got the grommels that build up
onto the handle where his hand wouldgo. You've got scarring and battle tears
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along the bottom, and even likekind of a spike in that that comes
down almost like a diamond type ofa spike. And as you move up
towards that center ring, you've gotfloral design that's built almost like paddles around
the top portion of the handle.As it goes up into that ring,
and then the ring there's almost liketrolling inscriptions on the inside. It kind
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of reminds me of the staff ofraw. That's exactly what I was thinking
as well, Like if you justput a red stone, you could set
it in the in the in thetemple room map room to Defying you know,
Carnac. It's like it's just itreally looks like the statue or the
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staff of Raw because of the waythat it's built with all that in scripture
work on the inside. Yeah,no, it's it's very very cool and
again, you know, something thatthey didn't have to put that much detail
on, but they did, andI think that we're better for it.
Yeah, so let's college about tofigure itself then, So let's start at
the top of his hat. Hishat. He looks like Gandalf from Lord
of the Rings and the way hesays he got that nice pointy wizard's hat
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and it's kind of falling back likehe's moving forward and it's being pushed back
by the wind. But they've gotsome phenomenal fold work going on on this
thing. Yes, Like it's almostthe back of it the way it's full,
but it almost looks like a mouth, like the sorting hat from Harry
Potter that it's folded over so much. But it's but it's still it looks
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it looks real. It does.Yeah. The sculpting on this a picular
hat, including like the center bandand everything and the way things are layered
up on it. It is downright. It's probably some of the most amazing
fold work that we've seen coming fromthe Full Horseman. And it works out
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in this way because you know,we have a lot of characters that don't
have a lot of fabric folding onthem, So to get to have a
figure that's like basically clothed in looserfabric, including in the hat, you
get a lot of fold work thatis just an impeccable and it's not it's
not something that's like it's overdone,because it's still smooth enough where it's realistic,
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but it's also not so subtle thatyou don't notice it. No,
right, it's it's the perfect it'sthe perfect, perfect mixture of real and
and cartoon. Yeah, yeah,absolutely right. And there's like a the
brown band going around it looks likeit's maybe out of a leather that's got
some nice ridges on it as well, and then the brim of the hat
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is it's it's pretty standard. It'spretty flat around, but not so much
that it looks machine made. Itlooks still looks real, like it's made
out of a cloth belt or something. But the front of it is sort
of pushed up again, as ifhe's moving forward and the wind is pushing
it back. Yep, which Ireally like and something that I like that.
I go ahead, I was gonnasay, that's also like that.
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That hat with the brim being pushedup is also indicative of the vintage toy
as well. Yes, the haton that one also bode up at the
front of the eyes at the frontof the hat, so they're still keeping
that design element from the vintage toyin there, but they're giving it kind
of a a useful look and thatit's not just sculpted up because you know
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they want to have it its vintagetoy. It does look, as you
said, blown up this time.So this, yeah, this is this
is like a good remake of amovie where you're you're paying tribute to what
came before, but you're making ityour own, right. And in that
in that vein his ears that arethat are sticking up now, I don't
remember his ears in the original onebeing this long. They weren't okay,
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because they're sticking up like it wouldbe the equivalent of about like seven or
eight inches above the brim of thehat, right, Yes, So in
It's like I wanted to say,in the cartoon, I don't even remember
him showing his ears neither. Hewas easier to animate without him. Yeah,
the figure has them, but theylook like two feathers sticking up off
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the top of his head. They'rethey're kind of odd, but this one
I felt like they they really kindof hit the mark as far as what
you think. It was like thatlong kind of fantasy whof ear, but
kind of like with the hat,they've posed it back and they've you know,
kind of softened. It's where itgoes back and it's almost like it's
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being blown back, like he's gotso much magic coming out him that's blowing
his clothing backwards and his hat andhis ears backwards. And so the longer
ears give them, you know,a more powerful look because now you know,
everything including himself, as being pushedback from his might. Yeah.
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Yeah, no, that's that's exactlyit. Yeah. And again the yeah,
they're kind of kind of whooshing backfor like a better word. But
I do like if you see himlike from the front, they're sort of
their their curved, almost wrinkled alittle bit, yes, like like they
would be Um, I just Ijust really like it. I can't get
enough of it. And I likethat they've got the you know, the
they've get the ridges around him likewe have on our ears, like that,
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the cartilage around the edges is verynice. So moving down from their
underneath his hat, we've got hiswe can see his eyes and you know,
everything's painted black, just like inthe original figure, so we don't
really see his face, but wesee his eyes and they're like their yellow
eyes with like the black pupils andbelow that, and he looks almost sinister
the way they've got him done here. And then he's got his his scarf
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on that goes all the way downlike past his past his neck, all
the way down into his over thecollar of his of his tunic. But
in the back this this it's flippedup like the the the end of it
where he's tied it off is flippedup again like he's just flying, yes,
and it's almost like knotted or tied. Yeah, well there is not.
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There's not on the back where he'stied it. They've they've sculptured the
knot in there and how how howsturdy is at that seems like that would
be a little sturdier than like thestaff, because it's a little thicker plastic,
right, a little more rigid.It is um it does so a
couple of things. A note onthis one is that it's glued at the
back of the head, but itdoes move up and down, so it's
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it's almost it's not like a cachchy, but it's a softer plastic so it
is slightly pliable. But it's gluedto the back of the head, so
as the head moves, because it'skind of on a slanted swivel, so
the head, you know, asit moves and turns, it can run
into the body easily. And theface mask where the face rap will move
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up and down as needed to clearshoulders and clear the front of the tunic.
And so it's really cool. Andthey've they've got you know, the
face from the ice sculpted down andit's smoothed, but it's sculpted down into
the face mask and this face maskcovers it. So it's all separate pieces
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that are you know, sculptured reallywell, but it works with this figure.
And it I like that they installsculpting altogether on like one head.
I like the fact that they sculptedthem separately because it gives it an extra
layer of realism. It does,yeah, and again it just makes it
gives that that the illusion of movementthat is difficult to do this well.
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Yeah, so from there we'll talkabout his tunic. Next. His tunic
and much like his hat, hassome of the best fold work we've seen,
especially coming down the front where he'sit looks like he's sort of turned.
He's sort of just turned from hisleft to his right, and so
we've got like some swoop of thefabric going down in the front over his
stomach. But this this medallion thathe's wearing almost looks like it goes in
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the middle of the ring and hisstaff doesn't it it does, um,
well, it looks like it,but it's um it doesn't go there.
It's it doesn't, but it lookslike it would. It looks like it
would, Yeah, most definitely.And it's what what's cool about this is
that the medallion itself is actually acompletely sculptured piece that is cast in the
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same plastic as them as a staff, so it is adhered to the body
and then the chain is kind ofpainted, you know, but it's it
is a completely different piece. Soit sits off the body a little bit
and has a lot of ridges andstuff that you know, lends to that
realism and that you know, beautifulsculpt even more than if they just sculpted
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it down. But but it's notremovable, right, it's it's it's sculpted
onto the figure. It's just aseparate piece, yes, yes, okay,
it's got it looks like the chainon it looks like it's it's pretty
thick as well. It's got likesome links on it rather than an actual
like a dish, like a rope, right right, yeah, okay,
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And then it looks like there's someridges around the edge of it. Yes,
yeah, there's small small little umlike studs and studs that come around
the outside and you can actually runyour finger over and feel them. That's
a good scult yeah, very good. And then the middle is like this
is gold as the medallion, andthen there's an outer layer of that,
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a ring around that. It lookslike it's is it black or just kind
of a dark brown? It is, um, it's it's a black okay.
Yeah. So then going back tothe tunic, we've got again,
We've got all this great fold workcoming down from his shoulders. It's it
almost It just like sort of fallsand drapes over him. And then I
love it looks like it's in twopieces. He's got like a shirt and
then like a skirt underneath it.And the shirt comes down and has this
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like the hem of it is gold. It's got like some gold piping along
the the hem of it that goesall the way around. And you can
see that it looks like it sitsup a little bit off of the skirt
underneath it. Is that right oris it just the picture I'm looking at.
No, it does. And notonly does you know, it's sit
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off of the skirting itself, andit has you know, the gold trim,
it also is articulated. So hedoes have he has you know,
articulation in the stand. He alsohas a little bit of a waste articulation
that allows him to move the sculptedghost legs and the skirt one direction from
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the tunic to give him a littlebit different posing. And so they have
made sure to have the skirting andthe tunic separate in order to put in
this little bit of articulation. Veryvery cool. I didn't realize that and
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then again down below that the skirtis more of the same. We've got
some really nice, more subtle fullwork here because it's it's falling, so
there's not as much movement of it. But then at the hem of it
below that looks like it's got thatgold piping as well. Yes, Now,
the other thing I think is interestingis there we look to be like
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dark splotches in the fabric that looklike maybe it's supposed to be dirty.
Is that what they're supposed to begoing for there? No, Um,
I think the because I'm I'm lookingright now at figure archive and there's the
figure on one side and then there'sa like a custom on the other side.
I don't think they had the rightimage. And I believe that whoever
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customized that second figure in the otherpicture did like some some um a kind
of color stamping on there to makeareas look dark. But no, he
does not have any Okay, sohe does not. Okay, I'm seeing
the second one that I'm seeing onhere the picture. I'm saying, yeah,
it doesn't have that, So itis just this one. I didn't
know if movie it was a variantor something like that. No, no,
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no, that it's weird that oneis like a oh goodness, it's
almost like a custom that. Yeah, they've just done like a custom paint
job on it. Yeah, andit was one of those I looked at
it and I was like, waita second, They've got his arm articulated
in two spots, like a doublehinge. I'm like, yeah, it's
no hinging there. And I thinkthat's kind of where I figured out that
that was not the actual ORCO butthe first picture with the energy ball,
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that is actually the true Orgo itis. And it's interesting looking at it
from the front, you can seewhere they've sculpted his legs under the skirt.
Yes, so that's that's really interestingthe way they've the way they've done
that. Um, they've because itagain gives him that sense of movement and
kind of gives you the idea thatthere there is there is a body underneath
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there. He's not just this disembodiedhead and arms and torso. So I
really like that they did that.Yes, um, and you said he's
articulated at the you know, thethe tunic is articulated, but below him
is not, right, it's justsort of the the the tunic above which
kind of sits on a post andyou can kind of swivel it back and
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forth. Right, yeah, wellyes, so okay, there's a swivel
at the post, so the standswivels, and that has wat swivels as
well, so there's two points ofof swivel. Gotcha. Okay. Now
going up to his arms, thisis maybe what impresses me the most.
A couple of things about his arms. One um, but his right arm
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is is bent in it about anot a forty five degree angle, about
a m hmmm, well it's betweenit's between ninety one eighty, so it's
between being straight out. It's it'syou know whatever, halfway to what one
hundred twenty whatever, about one hundredand twenty degrees um. So the fabric
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is draped the way they get thatdata done. It's draped to where it's
it's falling down where you would ifit was not if it was hollow,
you could see all the way upto like his armpit, which is great.
But the cuffs around the end ofthe sleeves are those checkered. There's
those like gold and like a lightergold and a darker gold checkerboard pattern on
that. Well, so it isa sculpted checker pattern. Um, however
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it is not. It's not painteddifferent. It's all painted the same gold
as the other trim on his outfit. But it is a kind of like
zig zag checkered. Okay, uhlook, yes, so okay, just
the way the way it looks,the way the light is hitting in it
makes it look like a checkerboard.But I can see now it is it's
more zigzag. Now, that issome that is some really fine detail.
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Yes, And I love the waythe fabric is swooping back towards his body
on at least on that right arm, because of the way that his arm
is bent and sort of falling backtoward his arm. And then of course
he's got you know, the bluehands, which are just really a striking
counterpoint to the dark. And wedidn't talk about it, but his his
his um the hat is red andhis robes are like a deeper red,
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more like that, a little morepurple in it, maybe a little more
maroon. Yeah, it's yeah,it's almost like a very light magenta.
Yeah. And it is very muchlike a like a red orange. Yes,
that's almost like a salmon color toit. And then of course his
ears and his and his hands arethis sort of Turkle's color. Yeah,
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yep, yeah, really nice.And then his his left arm and and
his and his we didn't mention this. His bandana is almost pink, right,
Yes, it is. It isactually a it's a little bit more
of a muted pink, so it'sa pink that has a little bit of
a grayish tone to it. Butyeah, it is a pink and very
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much like the vintage look, you'reright. And then his h his left
arm, his arm is a littlemore straight out. If I'm looking at
this correctly, it's it's a littlemore straight out. And he's almost pointing.
He's not really pointing, but he'sgot like one finger out like he's
like he's casting a spell. Yes, And that's that's exactly what I was
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going to say. It is actuallya like a spell casting hand. Yes.
And what I love about this is, especially the pose they've got him
in on figure archive dot net.He almost looks like he's djaying, like
he's spinning two turntables. I couldsee that DJ orco, you know,
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and it's one of those like thinkingabout it, I could see not only
that, but I could see,um, I could see someone like doing
a a DJ Orco sort of thing. You know, I think I might
have a small DJ table when I'mable to get to my figures, I
might have to do that picture.I think you have to. I think
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you've inspired me. Yeah, Ithink you absolutely have to. And again,
the fold work on that on thatleft arm is every bit as good
as the fold work on the rightone, but it's not draping back as
far because again his arm is straightout, so it's more just falling down
like a like a like a verywide sleeve would. Yes, but really,
really good job to me. Thisis one of the stronger figures in
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this line, just because they've sortof reclaimed this figure. I feel like
this character even. Yeah, theythey held true to the vintage, but
they definitely modernized it in a waythat fills mature. Yeah he does.
He's not cute, he looks helooks like he means business. Yeah,
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he looks like a true magician foronce. Yes, a sorcerer, even
sorcerer, Yeah, exactly so inhis story, you know he was a
sorcerer exactly. So all right,so then I we'll have to talk have
our discussion, like what is whatis your favorite feature about this toy?
So, for me, one ofmy favorite features about this is I love
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I love that the spell casting hands, but for me, the the actual
like sculpting of the tunic into thelegs. I think it's just amazingly done.
And I love like looking at thefigure and just running over and seeing
all that fold work. I reallylove the work on him and how difficult
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must that have been because they didn'tscull It's not like they sculpted legs underneath
it, so it's it's clearly it'sobviously just they're they're working around it as
though it was there, but thelegs really weren't there, right yep.
For me, it's, uh,the thing I love the most, it's
the overall sculpt I think the updatingof it is spot on. I think
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they did everything perfectly. This isum the oracle from the cartoon from the
Filmation cartoon is not who this guyis, but this is a sorcerer that
is a force to be reckoned with. And I just think that's really cool.
And I love that they gave usan orco that is actually cool,
cool to have on your shelf.What is your least favorite feature about this
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toy. I think for me oneof the things I didn't care as much.
So there's on the blast, hisactual accessory, the ball blast or
whatever. There are these two littlearms that kind of wrap around the ball
that are supposed to explode out ona hinge whenever the ball shoots out.
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But I've never really cared much forthem because they remind me of some sort
of like weird water tentacles, andto me, they don't really match up
with the rest of the design verywell. And I think that's the only
thing. I just don't really caremuch for this figure on that level.
For that little thing, Okay,you know, I don't really have a
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problem with that one, because Ido think the whole thing is really cool.
If I have one quibble with thisfigure, it is the fact that
they made him so that he canhe doesn't come off the post. I
would have preferred to have a figurethat I could put on the post,
that I could take off and poseon the ground if I wanted to.
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That. That's my quibble with thisfigure. I don't know I understand why
they did it that way. Iguess I do understand why, but I
wish they would have given us theoption, and I don't. I don't
understand why they didn't, Right,that's that's fair enough. And if they
could have, why not just makethat post a part of the accessory that
has the launching of the ball soyou don't have as many pieces to lose.
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I'm kind of glad, I wouldsay it would make it hard to
pose him in the air like that, though, So I do I do
get while they did that, Iguess, And also because many times,
like if I had if I wasplaying and I had him in Castle Grace
goal, to have him attached tothat huge energy thing, it would become
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disastrous because now you're moving a giantenergy ball around with them, whereas if
he was just counseling he Man andhe Man was, you know, giving
the sort of power from lock up, it's like you don't want Orca to
have that much. So I kindof like the fact that they kept that
separate. Okay, and that makessense. It's again that that's kind of
a minor quibble. But my bigquibble is the fact that we didn't.
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We weren't able to take them offof that post. So how does this
figure best represent the line for thisone. It really, it really is
a nice update of what we got, but it's it's a very mature update
with very smart decision making as faras, like, you know what,
they were updating to make him better. All the key features that we had
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of Orco is still there, butnow we're getting something that feels like it
grew up. And I think that'skind of how a lot of this line
works, and that a lot ofthe figures, a lot of designs feel
like it's what we've had now grownup. That's a very good way to
put it. I agree. Whatamazes me about this figure is they didn't
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really change any elements. They justtook the elements that were there in the
original figure and tweaked them in sucha way that they just made the character
cool. They made this look reallycool and less if I can say less
cartoony, it looks less less Saturday, less weekday afternoon, nineteen eighties cartoony.
I'll say, right, so isthis toy cool? Yes? Yeah,
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this is again to me, thisis one of the coolest ones from
the line. Um, I haveno qualms about saying Orco is one of
my favorite figures from this line.It's not only good. Um. I
know, I know there are peoplethat would argue at this on this one,
but it's it's actually a really goodfigure. I would love for somebody
to try to argue with us aboutwhether this figure is cool. I would
love to hear somebody's argument about that. You know, how what are they
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basing that on? I mean,you got to keep in mind, like
you know, we didn't we didn'ttalk quite so much about articulation. But
he's got a swivel head, swivelwaist, swivel stands. That's already three
points of articulation. He's got baldjointed shoulders and swivel hands. I mean
that's what seven points of articulation ona small figure that doesn't technically have eggs.
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That's pretty good. It is absolutelyso. There you have a folks,
those are our thoughts on ORCA.We'd love to hear your thoughts if
you have one in your collection,especially if you have one of the variants
with the lava colored accessory with theblue ball. I'd love to see that
one. I'd love to see itin action. So I placed it to
our Facebook group. Otherwise, it'shead over there and let us know what
you think about orco from the FourHorsemen. So until next time for Talking
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Welcome to Talking Toys with Taylor andJeff, where we go back in time
to discuss our favorite toys, onetoy line at a time. Hello,
and welcome to Talking Toys with Taylorand Jeff. Action Figure Exclusive. I'm
Taylor and I'm Jeff, and we'rehere to talk about the Masters of the
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Universe two thousand X line and we'rehere to talk about a figure that Shocker
I have in my collection. Youdo have, that's right. I bought
one of these because I wasn't sureif you had it, and you did
have it, and I said,okay, well even if he does have
it, it's cool and I'll keepit for myself. Folks, we're talking
about Orco, and Orco has beenthe butt of jokes, you know,
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since since he came into being,and I think rightly so. But starting
with the Four Horsemen, I thinkthey've started to make Orco cool. And
regardless of what you think about theKevin Smith Netflix cartoon series that that came
out last year, I guess itwas it was kind of a saving grease
for me. Do Orco in thein the show? Yeah? Yeah,
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oh absolutely, That's what I'm sayingit Regardless of what you think about it
what they did with Orco. Theysort of redeemed Orco and made him a
really great character in that show.This character. So the two thousand next
version, especially in the cartoons,he he does have some of the you
know, vintage he Man cartoon sortof it's still the same character. Yeah.
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Yeah, But in the comics.So what they did with the comics,
and um, I've got I thinkit was in the Shart of Darkness
they talk about like where he losthis magic and how and then they actually
in that particular story, he getsa magical shard that makes him very powerful
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and seeing seeing what he could dobecause he was like he was revisiting who
he was on Traula. And Iabsolutely love that story because it shows how
powerful Orco is in his own dimension, Right, He's incredibly powerful. But
here, unfortunately, because of aI think he had lost like an amulet
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or something that he had on hisbody when he landed here, he was
not able to focus that power exactly. Yeah. But yeah, but this
and this, uh, this fourHorsemen figure really leans into that that power.
Um, so let's let's just talkabout it. Let's go ahead and
dive and say you have one ofthese, right, Well, you'd of
course you do, because that's whyI still have mine. Yep. So
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let's talk a little bit before wetalked about the figure, let's talk about
his accessory. This little stand that'sgot the little it's it's a blue stand
that looks sort of like it's itlooks like water splashing out and it's got
a like an orange orb inside ofit. Can you explain to me what
this is supposed to be? Yeah, So it's like it would be like
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like power, like magical power comingup from the ground and shooting a fiery
orb. And I think it's supposedto be like a little like lava or
a fiery orb that you know,shoots out. So the cool thing about
this is that you get two differentversions. There's their repaint where Orco changes
a little bit in color, andso you get the reverse where you get
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an orange with a blue ball init later on, which I mean it's
I think I prefer the blue withthe orange on it, just because it
feels more like like a lava shotbeing shot out of the earth. It's
a simple mechanic. The ball isactually like pressed in and it has like
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a little spring that holds it inplace, and when you hit on this
back plunger, the ball actually shootsout and it can knocker the figure you
do where it's pretty powerful. Itis it's and it's it's it's a hefty
little you know, it's it's.It's it's hollow plastic, but it's a
hefty little piece. And it's anice texture and everything and all translucent.
Even the orange ball has a certainbit of translucent to it, so if
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you were to put a light infront of it, it actually looks like
it'll glow like it's mad. Yeah, it's really cool and and that's that's
his his main accessory. He's alsothis is one of those few figures it
comes with a stand and the standmatches the that that launcher as well.
It's the same blue dark blue plasticthat's sort of wavy, and it's got
a post in it that you justsit him down on, so it looks
like he's floating. Yeah, wellthe post is actually built into him,
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so that's okay. I could.It's been a while. Mine is still
packed away, so it's been awhile. So I didn't remember if he
came off the post or not.Yeah, the on on this one,
so they they later did it wherethe posts would come off of them when
they did classics, and I believethe origins is kind of the same where
I think the post comes off,but with this particular figure, the post
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is actually built in. It's builtin as a part of the articulation.
So the stand will turn, soyou can turn, you know, the
stand anyway you want on a swivel, and there's some like magic you know,
that kind of swirls up in places, so if you want to put
the swirl to the front of them, you can, or if you want
to like run it behind them,you have that option as well. But
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it is actually built up into them, and no matter which way the stand
works, it still balances the figuringquite nicely. Yeah, it really does.
It's not not flimsy at all.I say one other thing I forgot
to say about the stand, andit's something that we hadn't talked about with
all the figures, but on alot of these first wave figures, in
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some of the second wave figures,in the stand you can see because it's
translicent plastic, but more so orcothan any of the other figures, there's
a chip inside that works with CastleGray skal And I bring that up because
when you look at the figure atthe stand you might see a few pictures
you'll see a chip in there onany of the first release orcos that have
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that blue and orange magic ball sortof thing with them. The second wave,
I believe they drop that out ofthere, so it ends up having
like this little square, empty pocketon the stand. But Orco does have
a chip that is able to interactwith Castle Gray Goal. So when you
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bring the figures up to the gateand Castle Race sculls on, it recognizes
Orco as a hero and would lethim in. Okay, very cool,
Yeah, very cool. So whilewe're talking about the accessories, let's talk
about his wand too. The wandis interesting because it's it's it's got your
typical staff and it's like a goldyellowish oranges golden plastic. But at the
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top of it, it's got thisround it's it's like a rounds piece,
and it's it's hollow. It's it'sa hollow in the center, so it's
sort of shaped like a don't nutum And I don't know if mine actually
can. I don't think mine camewith that, So I don't have any
experience with that. So how howpliable is this or how sturdy is this?
Is this? Uh, this one, it's for the for the most
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part, it's it's almost I wouldsay it's as firm as has Rose New
Fortnite, you know weapons for theirfigures. It's it holds its shape,
but it's still pliable. So ifyou have it in a spot where it's
warm and it's kind of pressed upagainst something, it will start to bend
over time because it's it's still pliableenough to go into the hands. And
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some of that's just because it's thinand it's it's kind of a metallic plastic
right um. You can bend andtwist and stress this very easily. So
it's it's it's not the sturdiest weapon, but it's sturdy enough. Like it's.
It's not it's not something that you'reafraid it's going to snap or break
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or destroy itself like it it takesa little bit of power to manipulate it
and to break it or to reallypush it in that level well, and
it stays in his hand pretty welltoo. From what I can see,
his right hand is it's sort offormed to hold it, yeah, And
the way to put it in hishand is actually just from the bottom of
the staff to slide it into hishand. And it works perfect because it
kind of tapers down at the endand the handle it looks like it's it's
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got some really cool design work onthe handle. Let's get some ridges.
But is there some intricate design workon the at the top of the staff
on that ring that I'm saying,yes, yes, So there's there's a
few areas of this intricate work.So you've got the grommels that build up
onto the handle where his hand wouldgo. You've got scarring and battle tears
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along the bottom, and even likekind of a spike in that that comes
down almost like a diamond type ofa spike. And as you move up
towards that center ring, you've gotfloral design that's built almost like paddles around
the top portion of the handle.As it goes up into that ring,
and then the ring there's almost liketrolling inscriptions on the inside. It kind
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of reminds me of the staff ofraw. That's exactly what I was thinking
as well, Like if you justput a red stone, you could set
it in the in the in thetemple room map room to Defying you know,
Carnac. It's like it's just itreally looks like the statue or the
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staff of Raw because of the waythat it's built with all that in scripture
work on the inside. Yeah,no, it's it's very very cool and
again, you know, something thatthey didn't have to put that much detail
on, but they did, andI think that we're better for it.
Yeah, so let's college about tofigure itself then, So let's start at
the top of his hat. Hishat. He looks like Gandalf from Lord
of the Rings and the way hesays he got that nice pointy wizard's hat
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and it's kind of falling back likehe's moving forward and it's being pushed back
by the wind. But they've gotsome phenomenal fold work going on on this
thing. Yes, Like it's almostthe back of it the way it's full,
but it almost looks like a mouth, like the sorting hat from Harry
Potter that it's folded over so much. But it's but it's still it looks
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it looks real. It does.Yeah. The sculpting on this a picular
hat, including like the center bandand everything and the way things are layered
up on it. It is downright. It's probably some of the most amazing
fold work that we've seen coming fromthe Full Horseman. And it works out
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in this way because you know,we have a lot of characters that don't
have a lot of fabric folding onthem, So to get to have a
figure that's like basically clothed in looserfabric, including in the hat, you
get a lot of fold work thatis just an impeccable and it's not it's
not something that's like it's overdone,because it's still smooth enough where it's realistic,
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but it's also not so subtle thatyou don't notice it. No,
right, it's it's the perfect it'sthe perfect, perfect mixture of real and
and cartoon. Yeah, yeah,absolutely right. And there's like a the
brown band going around it looks likeit's maybe out of a leather that's got
some nice ridges on it as well, and then the brim of the hat
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is it's it's pretty standard. It'spretty flat around, but not so much
that it looks machine made. Itlooks still looks real, like it's made
out of a cloth belt or something. But the front of it is sort
of pushed up again, as ifhe's moving forward and the wind is pushing
it back. Yep, which Ireally like and something that I like that.
I go ahead, I was gonnasay, that's also like that.
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That hat with the brim being pushedup is also indicative of the vintage toy
as well. Yes, the haton that one also bode up at the
front of the eyes at the frontof the hat, so they're still keeping
that design element from the vintage toyin there, but they're giving it kind
of a a useful look and thatit's not just sculpted up because you know
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they want to have it its vintagetoy. It does look, as you
said, blown up this time.So this, yeah, this is this
is like a good remake of amovie where you're you're paying tribute to what
came before, but you're making ityour own, right. And in that
in that vein his ears that arethat are sticking up now, I don't
remember his ears in the original onebeing this long. They weren't okay,
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because they're sticking up like it wouldbe the equivalent of about like seven or
eight inches above the brim of thehat, right, Yes, So in
It's like I wanted to say,in the cartoon, I don't even remember
him showing his ears neither. Hewas easier to animate without him. Yeah,
the figure has them, but theylook like two feathers sticking up off
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the top of his head. They'rethey're kind of odd, but this one
I felt like they they really kindof hit the mark as far as what
you think. It was like thatlong kind of fantasy whof ear, but
kind of like with the hat,they've posed it back and they've you know,
kind of softened. It's where itgoes back and it's almost like it's
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being blown back, like he's gotso much magic coming out him that's blowing
his clothing backwards and his hat andhis ears backwards. And so the longer
ears give them, you know,a more powerful look because now you know,
everything including himself, as being pushedback from his might. Yeah.
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Yeah, no, that's that's exactlyit. Yeah. And again the yeah,
they're kind of kind of whooshing backfor like a better word. But
I do like if you see himlike from the front, they're sort of
their their curved, almost wrinkled alittle bit, yes, like like they
would be Um, I just Ijust really like it. I can't get
enough of it. And I likethat they've got the you know, the
they've get the ridges around him likewe have on our ears, like that,
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the cartilage around the edges is verynice. So moving down from their
underneath his hat, we've got hiswe can see his eyes and you know,
everything's painted black, just like inthe original figure, so we don't
really see his face, but wesee his eyes and they're like their yellow
eyes with like the black pupils andbelow that, and he looks almost sinister
the way they've got him done here. And then he's got his his scarf
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on that goes all the way downlike past his past his neck, all
the way down into his over thecollar of his of his tunic. But
in the back this this it's flippedup like the the the end of it
where he's tied it off is flippedup again like he's just flying, yes,
and it's almost like knotted or tied. Yeah, well there is not.
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There's not on the back where he'stied it. They've they've sculptured the
knot in there and how how howsturdy is at that seems like that would
be a little sturdier than like thestaff, because it's a little thicker plastic,
right, a little more rigid.It is um it does so a
couple of things. A note onthis one is that it's glued at the
back of the head, but itdoes move up and down, so it's
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it's almost it's not like a cachchy, but it's a softer plastic so it
is slightly pliable. But it's gluedto the back of the head, so
as the head moves, because it'skind of on a slanted swivel, so
the head, you know, asit moves and turns, it can run
into the body easily. And theface mask where the face rap will move
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up and down as needed to clearshoulders and clear the front of the tunic.
And so it's really cool. Andthey've they've got you know, the
face from the ice sculpted down andit's smoothed, but it's sculpted down into
the face mask and this face maskcovers it. So it's all separate pieces
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that are you know, sculptured reallywell, but it works with this figure.
And it I like that they installsculpting altogether on like one head.
I like the fact that they sculptedthem separately because it gives it an extra
layer of realism. It does,yeah, and again it just makes it
gives that that the illusion of movementthat is difficult to do this well.
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Yeah, so from there we'll talkabout his tunic. Next. His tunic
and much like his hat, hassome of the best fold work we've seen,
especially coming down the front where he'sit looks like he's sort of turned.
He's sort of just turned from hisleft to his right, and so
we've got like some swoop of thefabric going down in the front over his
stomach. But this this medallion thathe's wearing almost looks like it goes in
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the middle of the ring and hisstaff doesn't it it does, um,
well, it looks like it,but it's um it doesn't go there.
It's it doesn't, but it lookslike it would. It looks like it
would, Yeah, most definitely.And it's what what's cool about this is
that the medallion itself is actually acompletely sculptured piece that is cast in the
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same plastic as them as a staff, so it is adhered to the body
and then the chain is kind ofpainted, you know, but it's it
is a completely different piece. Soit sits off the body a little bit
and has a lot of ridges andstuff that you know, lends to that
realism and that you know, beautifulsculpt even more than if they just sculpted
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it down. But but it's notremovable, right, it's it's it's sculpted
onto the figure. It's just aseparate piece, yes, yes, okay,
it's got it looks like the chainon it looks like it's it's pretty
thick as well. It's got likesome links on it rather than an actual
like a dish, like a rope, right right, yeah, okay,
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And then it looks like there's someridges around the edge of it. Yes,
yeah, there's small small little umlike studs and studs that come around
the outside and you can actually runyour finger over and feel them. That's
a good scult yeah, very good. And then the middle is like this
is gold as the medallion, andthen there's an outer layer of that,
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a ring around that. It lookslike it's is it black or just kind
of a dark brown? It is, um, it's it's a black okay.
Yeah. So then going back tothe tunic, we've got again,
We've got all this great fold workcoming down from his shoulders. It's it
almost It just like sort of fallsand drapes over him. And then I
love it looks like it's in twopieces. He's got like a shirt and
then like a skirt underneath it.And the shirt comes down and has this
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like the hem of it is gold. It's got like some gold piping along
the the hem of it that goesall the way around. And you can
see that it looks like it sitsup a little bit off of the skirt
underneath it. Is that right oris it just the picture I'm looking at.
No, it does. And notonly does you know, it's sit
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off of the skirting itself, andit has you know, the gold trim,
it also is articulated. So hedoes have he has you know,
articulation in the stand. He alsohas a little bit of a waste articulation
that allows him to move the sculptedghost legs and the skirt one direction from
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the tunic to give him a littlebit different posing. And so they have
made sure to have the skirting andthe tunic separate in order to put in
this little bit of articulation. Veryvery cool. I didn't realize that and
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then again down below that the skirtis more of the same. We've got
some really nice, more subtle fullwork here because it's it's falling, so
there's not as much movement of it. But then at the hem of it
below that looks like it's got thatgold piping as well. Yes, Now,
the other thing I think is interestingis there we look to be like
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dark splotches in the fabric that looklike maybe it's supposed to be dirty.
Is that what they're supposed to begoing for there? No, Um,
I think the because I'm I'm lookingright now at figure archive and there's the
figure on one side and then there'sa like a custom on the other side.
I don't think they had the rightimage. And I believe that whoever
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customized that second figure in the otherpicture did like some some um a kind
of color stamping on there to makeareas look dark. But no, he
does not have any Okay, sohe does not. Okay, I'm seeing
the second one that I'm seeing onhere the picture. I'm saying, yeah,
it doesn't have that, So itis just this one. I didn't
know if movie it was a variantor something like that. No, no,
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no, that it's weird that oneis like a oh goodness, it's
almost like a custom that. Yeah, they've just done like a custom paint
job on it. Yeah, andit was one of those I looked at
it and I was like, waita second, They've got his arm articulated
in two spots, like a doublehinge. I'm like, yeah, it's
no hinging there. And I thinkthat's kind of where I figured out that
that was not the actual ORCO butthe first picture with the energy ball,
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that is actually the true Orgo itis. And it's interesting looking at it
from the front, you can seewhere they've sculpted his legs under the skirt.
Yes, so that's that's really interestingthe way they've the way they've done
that. Um, they've because itagain gives him that sense of movement and
kind of gives you the idea thatthere there is there is a body underneath
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there. He's not just this disembodiedhead and arms and torso. So I
really like that they did that.Yes, um, and you said he's
articulated at the you know, thethe tunic is articulated, but below him
is not, right, it's justsort of the the the tunic above which
kind of sits on a post andyou can kind of swivel it back and
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forth. Right, yeah, wellyes, so okay, there's a swivel
at the post, so the standswivels, and that has wat swivels as
well, so there's two points ofof swivel. Gotcha. Okay. Now
going up to his arms, thisis maybe what impresses me the most.
A couple of things about his arms. One um, but his right arm
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is is bent in it about anot a forty five degree angle, about
a m hmmm, well it's betweenit's between ninety one eighty, so it's
between being straight out. It's it'syou know whatever, halfway to what one
hundred twenty whatever, about one hundredand twenty degrees um. So the fabric
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is draped the way they get thatdata done. It's draped to where it's
it's falling down where you would ifit was not if it was hollow,
you could see all the way upto like his armpit, which is great.
But the cuffs around the end ofthe sleeves are those checkered. There's
those like gold and like a lightergold and a darker gold checkerboard pattern on
that. Well, so it isa sculpted checker pattern. Um, however
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it is not. It's not painteddifferent. It's all painted the same gold
as the other trim on his outfit. But it is a kind of like
zig zag checkered. Okay, uhlook, yes, so okay, just
the way the way it looks,the way the light is hitting in it
makes it look like a checkerboard.But I can see now it is it's
more zigzag. Now, that issome that is some really fine detail.
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Yes, And I love the waythe fabric is swooping back towards his body
on at least on that right arm, because of the way that his arm
is bent and sort of falling backtoward his arm. And then of course
he's got you know, the bluehands, which are just really a striking
counterpoint to the dark. And wedidn't talk about it, but his his
his um the hat is red andhis robes are like a deeper red,
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more like that, a little morepurple in it, maybe a little more
maroon. Yeah, it's yeah,it's almost like a very light magenta.
Yeah. And it is very muchlike a like a red orange. Yes,
that's almost like a salmon color toit. And then of course his
ears and his and his hands arethis sort of Turkle's color. Yeah,
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yep, yeah, really nice.And then his his left arm and and
his and his we didn't mention this. His bandana is almost pink, right,
Yes, it is. It isactually a it's a little bit more
of a muted pink, so it'sa pink that has a little bit of
a grayish tone to it. Butyeah, it is a pink and very
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much like the vintage look, you'reright. And then his h his left
arm, his arm is a littlemore straight out. If I'm looking at
this correctly, it's it's a littlemore straight out. And he's almost pointing.
He's not really pointing, but he'sgot like one finger out like he's
like he's casting a spell. Yes, And that's that's exactly what I was
(24:41):
going to say. It is actuallya like a spell casting hand. Yes.
And what I love about this is, especially the pose they've got him
in on figure archive dot net.He almost looks like he's djaying, like
he's spinning two turntables. I couldsee that DJ orco, you know,
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and it's one of those like thinkingabout it, I could see not only
that, but I could see,um, I could see someone like doing
a a DJ Orco sort of thing. You know, I think I might
have a small DJ table when I'mable to get to my figures, I
might have to do that picture.I think you have to. I think
(25:26):
you've inspired me. Yeah, Ithink you absolutely have to. And again,
the fold work on that on thatleft arm is every bit as good
as the fold work on the rightone, but it's not draping back as
far because again his arm is straightout, so it's more just falling down
like a like a like a verywide sleeve would. Yes, but really,
really good job to me. Thisis one of the stronger figures in
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this line, just because they've sortof reclaimed this figure. I feel like
this character even. Yeah, theythey held true to the vintage, but
they definitely modernized it in a waythat fills mature. Yeah he does.
He's not cute, he looks helooks like he means business. Yeah,
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he looks like a true magician foronce. Yes, a sorcerer, even
sorcerer, Yeah, exactly so inhis story, you know he was a
sorcerer exactly. So all right,so then I we'll have to talk have
our discussion, like what is whatis your favorite feature about this toy?
So, for me, one ofmy favorite features about this is I love
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I love that the spell casting hands, but for me, the the actual
like sculpting of the tunic into thelegs. I think it's just amazingly done.
And I love like looking at thefigure and just running over and seeing
all that fold work. I reallylove the work on him and how difficult
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must that have been because they didn'tscull It's not like they sculpted legs underneath
it, so it's it's clearly it'sobviously just they're they're working around it as
though it was there, but thelegs really weren't there, right yep.
For me, it's, uh,the thing I love the most, it's
the overall sculpt I think the updatingof it is spot on. I think
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they did everything perfectly. This isum the oracle from the cartoon from the
Filmation cartoon is not who this guyis, but this is a sorcerer that
is a force to be reckoned with. And I just think that's really cool.
And I love that they gave usan orco that is actually cool,
cool to have on your shelf.What is your least favorite feature about this
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toy. I think for me oneof the things I didn't care as much.
So there's on the blast, hisactual accessory, the ball blast or
whatever. There are these two littlearms that kind of wrap around the ball
that are supposed to explode out ona hinge whenever the ball shoots out.
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But I've never really cared much forthem because they remind me of some sort
of like weird water tentacles, andto me, they don't really match up
with the rest of the design verywell. And I think that's the only
thing. I just don't really caremuch for this figure on that level.
For that little thing, Okay,you know, I don't really have a
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problem with that one, because Ido think the whole thing is really cool.
If I have one quibble with thisfigure, it is the fact that
they made him so that he canhe doesn't come off the post. I
would have preferred to have a figurethat I could put on the post,
that I could take off and poseon the ground if I wanted to.
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That. That's my quibble with thisfigure. I don't know I understand why
they did it that way. Iguess I do understand why, but I
wish they would have given us theoption, and I don't. I don't
understand why they didn't, Right,that's that's fair enough. And if they
could have, why not just makethat post a part of the accessory that
has the launching of the ball soyou don't have as many pieces to lose.
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I'm kind of glad, I wouldsay it would make it hard to
pose him in the air like that, though, So I do I do
get while they did that, Iguess, And also because many times,
like if I had if I wasplaying and I had him in Castle Grace
goal, to have him attached tothat huge energy thing, it would become
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disastrous because now you're moving a giantenergy ball around with them, whereas if
he was just counseling he Man andhe Man was, you know, giving
the sort of power from lock up, it's like you don't want Orca to
have that much. So I kindof like the fact that they kept that
separate. Okay, and that makessense. It's again that that's kind of
a minor quibble. But my bigquibble is the fact that we didn't.
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We weren't able to take them offof that post. So how does this
figure best represent the line for thisone. It really, it really is
a nice update of what we got, but it's it's a very mature update
with very smart decision making as faras, like, you know what,
they were updating to make him better. All the key features that we had
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of Orco is still there, butnow we're getting something that feels like it
grew up. And I think that'skind of how a lot of this line
works, and that a lot ofthe figures, a lot of designs feel
like it's what we've had now grownup. That's a very good way to
put it. I agree. Whatamazes me about this figure is they didn't
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really change any elements. They justtook the elements that were there in the
original figure and tweaked them in sucha way that they just made the character
cool. They made this look reallycool and less if I can say less
cartoony, it looks less less Saturday, less weekday afternoon, nineteen eighties cartoony.
I'll say, right, so isthis toy cool? Yes? Yeah,
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this is again to me, thisis one of the coolest ones from
the line. Um, I haveno qualms about saying Orco is one of
my favorite figures from this line.It's not only good. Um. I
know, I know there are peoplethat would argue at this on this one,
but it's it's actually a really goodfigure. I would love for somebody
to try to argue with us aboutwhether this figure is cool. I would
love to hear somebody's argument about that. You know, how what are they
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basing that on? I mean,you got to keep in mind, like
you know, we didn't we didn'ttalk quite so much about articulation. But
he's got a swivel head, swivelwaist, swivel stands. That's already three
points of articulation. He's got baldjointed shoulders and swivel hands. I mean
that's what seven points of articulation ona small figure that doesn't technically have eggs.
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That's pretty good. It is absolutelyso. There you have a folks,
those are our thoughts on ORCA.We'd love to hear your thoughts if
you have one in your collection,especially if you have one of the variants
with the lava colored accessory with theblue ball. I'd love to see that
one. I'd love to see itin action. So I placed it to
our Facebook group. Otherwise, it'shead over there and let us know what
you think about orco from the FourHorsemen. So until next time for Talking
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Toys with Taylor and Jeff. ActionFigure exclusive. I'm Taylor, I'm Jeff.
I remember they're not dolls, they'reaction figures. Action figures with giant
volcanic glass on walls. I'm justgonna stop it there. Thank you for
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