Armed National Guard in DC

The deployment of armed National Guard troops in Washington, D.C., with discussions to replicate the model in cities like Chicago, has sparked intense debate about the balance between public safety and civil liberties. Colonel William Dunn (USMC, Ret.), decorated combat veteran, military strategist, and author of Gunfighters Rule! joins me to provide a precise, nonpartisan analysis of what this unprecedented move means from a military standpoint.

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Episode Transcript

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Would say it's in a crucial stage. It's not because
of what it was.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
When wag it's more to with the colors blue and red,
you be he lost too much.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Government needn tell.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Me where the constitution? When the Bill of Rights is
just hanging by a thread. So many people trying to
cross the border. Politicians build a new world order. Too
many minds are convinced nation should be let. I've got
a big friend.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
In the way God may be, and I will be
ruled by the damn you when.

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Taking your right to self defense, saying your sacred but
they don't make sense.

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Major response to doctor and the guns. All thes always
asking for all he buy is made on foreign shorts.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Come a day when they'll be real health pay. I
gotta big brains.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
The way God they be, and I will be ruled
by the damn you win.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I gotta big braid.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
The way God they be.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Will be rule by the dan you win.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Hello, and welcome to today's broadcast of Tapping to the Truth.
I hope you're having a fantastic day wherever you are
and whatever you may be doing. With all the usual caveats,
welcome to the Rumble live stream. A little thing we
do most Thursdays. I, of course am your EPISO humble

(03:30):
and mostly peaceful host, Tim Tap, and we are coming
to you live from historic Rome County, Tennessee. So thank
you so much for being here. I already have some
folks in the chat room. Greg is hanging out with us,
and so is George. So glad to have you guys along.
We'll be joined here in just a little bit by

(03:51):
retired United States Marine Corps Colonel William Bernard Dunn. We're
gonna be talking about his strictly military assessment of one
Donald John Trump, aka the Orange Man Who's bad, the
kicker of puppies, the eater of babies, the climate arsonist,

(04:12):
all according to the Left, and the assessment of his
efforts to clean up DC, in particular the use of
the National Guard, and what, if anything the threats to
try to do something similar than other parts of the
country might actually mean. I tend to think not much

(04:35):
of anything. In fact, this was one of the topics
we discussed last night over on another Rumble channel best
known as Firefox News Online, part of a roundtable discussion
where George Sendser, the host of that particular show, was
kind enough to invite me to be part of a

(04:57):
really good conversation I thought, with Amy Hollam of Amy's
Audios and one of my favorite journalists from RedState dot Com,
Miss Becky Noble. So it was worthwhile. If you have
not seen that, by all means, you really should go

(05:19):
check it out. I think I might have actually had
one or two moments where I kind of showed why
I'm worthy of being a show host myself. Maybe I
don't know. You guys should watch it and decide for
yourself and I. Meanwhile, there is a news story that
I haven't had a chance to talk about this week,

(05:39):
so I wanted to kind of get into that a
little bit. Uh yeah, I don't typically add that part
in George, let me go ahead and throw in when
I'm talking about kicker of puppies, eater, a baby's climate, arsonist,
all that. George rightfully try to remind me that I

(06:02):
forgot to mention at the left also season with white
supremacist and the racist. I just don't typically add that
to the list the left news what they think of it.
All right, So with that being said, and with time
being actually relatively short before we will be joined by

(06:24):
Colonel Colonel Dunn. If that works the way it's supposed to,
he's not going to be able to join us video wise,
but he's gonna make the effort to join us audio only.
So I am standing by with this lovely picture of
the Colonel one of his promotional shots, and this the

(06:47):
front cover of his book, Gun Fighters Rule. Very cool stuff.
But before we get started on any of that, like
I mentioned, there is a news story that I was
to talk about it. I haven't had a chance to
talk about it on the audio podcast or on the
radio show yet, so we'll do it here. And I

(07:10):
think that picture might help give away the notion of
what I'm talking about. Most of you by now are
familiar with, especially if you watch this particular show or
listen to my podcast, you're familiar with former judge Hannah Dugan.

(07:32):
She's the Milwaukee County Circuit judge who was indicted by
a federal grand jury in May on charges of concealing
a person from arrest and obstruction of the law. That's
Fancy Wade saying obstruction of justice, which if she had
not been a judge at the time, that's what you

(07:52):
and I would have been charged with. She would have
been charged with.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Then as well.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Of course, for judge Dugan was really differ duties as
a judge back in April by the Supreme Court of Wisconsin.
The thing here is she journalistically I suppose I'm still
supposed to use the word allegedly, although we've all seen

(08:18):
the video and we know that she definitely helped an
illegal alien who was before her in her court over.
I believe it was child support issues, if I'm not mistaken. Well,
what was the name again? And Roaldo Flores Ruins I

(08:41):
think anyway. Roaldo he's an illegal alien currently residing in
the US, originally from Mexico. He was charged with three
misdemeanor counts of battery. That's what had him in front
of the court, and she allegedly helped him to get

(09:02):
away from US Immigration and custom enforcement officers following the
alien's pre trial April eighteenth appearance in her courtroom. Now,
Dugan has a sense fought desperately to avoid well, let's
call a spade to spade, shall we. She's fought desperately

(09:23):
to avoid accountability. She's fought desperately to avoid paying the
price for her illegal actions. Oh, I'm sorry again. Journalistic integrity,
her alleged crimes, which.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
They were kind of kind of.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Put on full display, caught on the cameras within the
courtroom that she worked at. Well, it's certainly starting look
like she may not be able to avoid that accountability.
She's currently facing up to six years in prison. I

(10:10):
doubt she'll get the pull six even if this goes
as it should, but that would be the upper limit
with what she's facing here. See this earlier this week Tuesday,
if I remember correctly, the Clinton appointed US district judge
presiding over Dugan's case delivered her some well for her

(10:34):
bad news about her charges. She's not going to be
able to just ignore them. She's not going to be
able to get them tossed, despite her attorney's best efforts
to just have them dismissed. Trying to claim a certain
level of judicial immunity. Citing the US Supreme Courts ruling

(10:56):
in the Trump versus United States, lawyers for the Milwaukee
judge claimed in a May fourteenth motion to dismiss the
case that a judge Dugan is immune from criminal prosecution
for judicial acts, that her prosecution violates the limits of
federal power under the tenth Amendment, and that her indictment

(11:21):
should be dismissed under the canon of constitutional avoidance. So
three different defenses rationale to throw it out. First and
foremost the effort to cite Trump versus of the United States,
where the Supreme Court came down and basically established that
there are in fact three different levels of executive immunity.

(11:45):
There is nothing at all dealing with judicial immunity in
that particular hearing. Nothing, which, strangely enough, the federal judge,
even though the federal judge in the case is a
Clinton appointee, actually pointed out in making their decision about
the dismissal, along with a few other things. But the

(12:08):
absurdity here is, even if you were going to extend
the same level of immunities as we're laid out by
the Supreme Court for the chief executive, this wouldn't protect
former Judge Dougan. Maybe the other arguments might, though, well,

(12:30):
let's take a look because US Magistrate Judge Nancy Joseph,
the federal judge that's handling the pre child proceedings in
this particular case, well, Judge Nancy blew up Dugan's arguments
for dismissal all the way through and fully recommended that

(12:54):
the motion to dismiss be denied. It's kind of curious
she's making a recommendation another judge will make the determination.
She's just handling the pre trial. It's a strange situation
that most of us would not get the benefit of.
But quoting here, it is well established and undisputed that

(13:17):
judges have absolute immunity from civil lawsuits for monetary damages
when engaging in judicial acts. This, however, is not a
civil case, and review of the case law does not
show an extension of this established doctrine to the criminal context.

(13:43):
Fancy way of saying that, Okay, if you make a
ruling and it ends up being dismissed later on, you're
not going to be held accountable for making that ruling
for financial means civil lawsuits are not going to be
permitted again to even then. I don't think that that's

(14:05):
the way it should be. I think, if we take
a serious look, we should again have tiered levels where
if you're legitimately making your determinations as the judge based
on legitimate law and based on precedent, then that's one thing.
But if you're making it strictly and solely on your

(14:27):
own feeling. If you're the one setting precedent, and later
on every other judge that sees this case says you're illegal, moron,
you're Kntanji Brown Jackson no less, then maybe maybe you

(14:48):
should be held accountable in those situations. That's my feeling,
but that is not the way the law is. Judges
are protected from the civil side, but not from the
criminal now. Judge Joseph also said, quote does judicial immunity
shield Dugan from prosecution because the incident alleges that she

(15:10):
violated federal criminal law while performing judicial duties. The answer
is no. In addition to underscoring that there is quote
no firmly established absolute judicial immunity barring criminal prosecution of

(15:31):
judges for judicial acts, Joseph clarified that the Supreme Court
ruling in Trump says nothing at all about criminal immunity
for judicial acts. And again, that is important. You can't
say that just because you gave Donald Trump immunity to
stuff means that everybody else that has an official government

(15:55):
job gets immunity too. That's not how any of this works.
Expect a judge at any level to both know and
understand that or at least I would expect it. And
if they don't know these simple basic things, they probably
shouldn't be a judge at any level anywhere in the

(16:15):
United States. Now, the decision on whether to uphold Joseph's
recommendation ultimately rest with the US District Judge Lynn Aldelman,
former Democratic state senator with the history of attacking When
Donald John Trump forty fifth and forty seventh president of

(16:40):
the United States, here's where you would expect it just
to kind of get dicey, and maybe you were former
judge Dugan might catch a break because on paper, it
certainly would appear the district judge might offer Dugan a
sympathetic year. Alderman ultimately embraced Joseph's recommendations and similarly dismantled

(17:05):
Dugan's arguments were dismissal one by one. However, regarding Dugan's
efforts to use the Trump ruling as her ticket out
of trouble, Alderman wrote in his order this past week quote,
there is no basis for granting immunity simply because some
of the allegations in this indictment described conduct that could

(17:29):
be considered part of a judicial part of a judge's
job sorry, continuing to quote a review of the relevant
history reveals the government has the better of the argument.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Now.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
The district judge also rejected Dugan's claim that the federal
prosecution violates the Tenth Amendment, stressing that the indictment of
a state judge neither results in the u conserption of
Wisconsin's power to select, discipline, or remove its own judges
or the state's sovereigntry, so no Tenth Amendment violation. Alderman

(18:13):
similarly rejected Dugan's third main argument for dismissal, noting that
quote the canon of constitutional avoidance comes into play only when,
after the application of ordinary textual analysis, a statute is
found to be susceptible of more than one construction, meaning, ultimately,

(18:44):
to get any level of constitutional avoidance, there has to
be the potential for legitimate interpretation in more than one outcome.
It's one of these things that we talk about quite
a bit, at least I talk about quite a bit
when it comes to when you look at certain aspects

(19:06):
of the Constitution. There are certain things that current judiciary
loves to try to reinterpret, reimagine, make it mean something else,
claim the Constitution is a living document, so it doesn't
mean today what it meant in eighteen twenty two, or
what it meant in seventeen ninety nine, or even what

(19:27):
it meant in nineteen eighty three. It's something different now,
which is complete horsh droppings. But anyway, some grade a
world class male bovine excrement, that's what that is. Anyway,
to continue with what was said, there is no ambiguity

(19:52):
with respect to the terms that Dugan singled out in
her emotion to dismiss, namely the words corruptly and proceedings
used in Court two of her federal indictments. All this
suggested by Alderman in what he had to say.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
So again.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
That's going back to that more than one construction. If
there is no way that there is going to be
any ambiguity, any any chance that two different meanings could
be applied, then maybe you have a case. But given
how the terms were used, no, no ambiguity, no room

(20:41):
for interpretation or seen in a different way, not legitimately anyway.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
NOA.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
The district judge denied Dugan's motion to dismiss, then scheduled
an in court hearing for September third. Attorneys for Dugan,
of course, said in a statement obtained by Thessociated Press
that they were disappointed in the decision but look forward
to the trial, which will show Judge Dugan did nothing

(21:10):
wrong and simply treated this case like any other in
front of her courtroom. I wonder if she, the attorney
realizes that that might actually be the problem. I wonder
if the attorney even stops for a second to believe,
for just a brief passing moment, that that is in

(21:34):
fact the problem. She acted. Former Judge Dugan acted in
a way that is not legal. She obstructed justice, She
interfered with federal law enforcement attempting to do their job.
There was multiple criminal offenses that took place here, and

(21:55):
she abused and in a very corrupt fashion, took advantage
of her position as a county judge in order to
try to make this happen to try and facilitate the
escape of an illegal for an invader alien migrant who

(22:20):
was in front of her because of assault charges. That
seems to me like the very definition of violating your
oath as an officer of a court. That seems the
very definition of performing a criminal act that is outside

(22:42):
of your judicial actions. Judicially speaking, what you should be
doing is holding this person accountable for the crimes that
they were in front of you now, making sure that
full due process takes place, but not actively engaging in
helping this individual to avoid due process for the federal

(23:06):
violations clearly seen by the federal government as being a
violent illegal national that does not belong in this country.
That due process is allowing Ice to pick them up
and for them to face deportation. You're violating the law

(23:27):
that's not within the constant. Let's revisit again, as I
mentioned before, if you were going to hold the same standard,
since you wanted to quote, since you wanted to bring
forward and make your point that I should be entitled
to immunity, because you'll let Donald Trump have immunity, Let's
revisit the three different tiers. There is absolute immunity. I mean,

(23:52):
you're performing an act that could be considered morally questionable,
but in doing so in the pformance of your job
as chief executive, performing an act that literally no other
office has the legal authority to do within the federal government.
And when we say that, we're talking about what the

(24:13):
constitution specifically allocates. We're talking about enumerated authorities, enumerated powers
of the office of the President of the United States.
He has very specific powers, very specific authorities, period. That's

(24:40):
tier one. Tier two is that there's a presumption of innocence,
not innocence, but immunity if you are in fact performing
a job that another elected official could do but is
still considered to be legitimate within the realm of your role,

(25:01):
something that maybe Congress could do, but also the president
can do and it is still a legitimate function of
the office. And then there was the third tier, and
that's the tier that kind of comes into play here.

(25:21):
You can't go legitimately commit a crime. All right, Let's
use Donald Trump as the example again to make it
easy for former Judge Dougan. Ordering Steel Team six to
go and assassinate a foreign dictator internationally is illegal, frowned

(25:47):
upon by our government and our people. We don't like
the idea, but that is a legitimate action of the
setting president ordering Seal Team six to go assassinate Jasamine
Crockett because he's ultimately annoyed with him with her whatever.

(26:12):
That is blatant criminality, violating the federal retainer that Ice
had on this person in her court and then actively
engaged in trying to misguide in order to try to manipulate,

(26:43):
in order to try and put cover between the illegal
alien migrants and the federal law enforcement officers that had
every legal right to take him into custody. That straight
up criminality. As a sitting judge, you do not have

(27:06):
a judicial authority. There's not a power that grants you
to knowingly, willingly violate federal law to aid in a
bed to obstruct justice. Your job is to try to
make sure justice occurs. That is literally, legitimately the role
of a judge when you are setting on that bench.

(27:28):
And if former Judge Dougan doesn't understand that, then she
has no business ever returning to the bench. It's kind
of looking like she probably won't be, but we know
she's not the only judge guilty of these type of
thought processes.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Don't be.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
I have a lot of concern and I'm going to
continue to follow this story and when there is breaking news, updates,
when there are updates of any kind, and we will
continue to look at it. But I fully expect that
we're going to have this upcoming hearing, and at that point,

(28:11):
trial dates are going to be set, and I have
a feeling that former Judge Dougan is going to be
spending some time incarcerated. I have a sinking suspicion most
likely that incarceration is going to be more like house
arrest for two years and then probation or some nonsense

(28:31):
like that. I'm not certain that she's built to survive
jail time, but regardless, we'll keep an eye on this
story and we'll see what happens as it moves forward.
That being said, let's take a little bit of a break.

(28:54):
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Alright, ladies, and gentlemen, we are back. You're gonna let
that hang out there for just a second or two
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(34:15):
show description in the Meanwhile, let me go ahead and
pull that on down, because well, that's been long enough.
We do have joining me now. He is, of course
the author of a fantastic book. In case you're not
aware of it, I showed you a picture earlier. It's

(34:38):
called gun Fighter's Rule. He is, of course a military strategist.
He's a decorated combat veteran, and he is a retired
United States Marine Corps colonel who there's a reason why
he thinks gun fighters rule. Ladies and gentlemen, and please

(35:00):
welcome to the show via audio only. So I'm gonna
also pull this up here because I'm sneaky like this.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show. Colonel will Berner. Done,
Colonel done. Thank you so much for coming on with
us tonight.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
How are you today, Hey, I'm doing gra sir, thanks
for having me. Can you all hear me? Okay? Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Audio is good. Audio is good. Let me let me
sneak over here to do a little extra. Beyond that too,
we'll get that scroll running first and foremost, Colonel, it's
been a little bit since we've had a chance to talk,
and you've always joined us over on the radio show,
So this is your first time with us on the
Rumble channel, so I appreciate you being versatile enough to

(35:45):
join us. Beyond that, you know, obviously we've got some
very important things to discuss, a very hot topic right now.
One Donald John Trump, aka the Orange Man, who's bad,
the kicker of uppies, the eater of babies, the climate arsonist,
all according to the left, he's done a very very

(36:06):
bad thing. He's reminded the world that DC is in
fact a federal district. But he has taken some steps
recently that kind of has some people up at arms.
He did decide that not only was he going to
call up the National Guard to help supplement and support
the efforts to clean up the DC crime, but then

(36:28):
he decided that they were going to have every right
to protect and defend themselves. So he allowed them to
be armed. So now we have armed National guardsmen in
DC in uniform, and that has a different feel to
it than them providing that supporting role. That is completely legitimate.
And then of course Donald Trump has been making threats,

(36:51):
and I think this is really more about putting certain
politicians on notice and maybe planning the idea in the
minds of sin citizens in these cities. If they see
this being successful in DC, get the citizens there to
start putting pressure on their elected officials to maybe do
more more than actually planning on activating and sending the

(37:17):
National Guard in in policing capacity. But the whole thing
here is I'm just an outsider looking at it. You, sir,
are the military strategist. You're an expert, and you're able
to look at this in a fashion that is very
much unbiased. So first of all, what is your opinion

(37:40):
of bringing the National Guard into DC the way he
has in the first place.

Speaker 10 (37:45):
Well, you know, it's interesting, and I just I'm at
an event down in North Carolina, a Marine Corps wing
change of command, and one of my good friends lives
in DC.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
I just spoke to him about this like twenty minutes ago.

Speaker 10 (37:59):
He can to take his trash out without carrying his pistol,
and he's another marine and he knows how to use it,
and he has a concealed carry in Washington, d C.
Because his wife and child lived there with him, and
they're not afraid. I don't want to use the word
frae because he's a marine, but they're worried that he's
going to have to defend himself taking his garbage out.

(38:23):
And when did we think it's okay in America to
be afraid to take your garbage out and be afraid
for your children that someone's going to shoot them in
a drive by shooting. So it's interesting. I don't want
to see a need for US military, whether they're active

(38:43):
duty or National guards, on our streets being required to
protect our citizens. But how many men and women have
to die before we decide we have to do it?
And I think that was the calculus. I believe that
Donald Trump used he didn't want to hear another American
citizen in Washington, d C. Being murdered, and I believe

(39:07):
this stat is true. I think today is the fourteenth
day and there's been no murders. I don't know if
that status holding true, but that's what I heard recently
this week.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
And why is that a bad thing?

Speaker 10 (39:20):
The bad thing is this Number One, Why did we
have to do it? Is because the local forces are
unable to take care of the problem. In two, there's
rampant crime, so you have to bring it in. Now,
this is the one thing that I'm concerned about. Say

(39:42):
they're there for thirty days, maybe they're there for sixty days,
and we see there's no crime or massively reduced crime.
What happens when they have to go back to doing
the normal national guard duties. So what I believe this
is showing the country I hope it is that if
you don't defund the police, like many of the left

(40:04):
called for, and many of the left executed in their cities,
but if you have a rational, well planned out, well
thought of police force, your crime will go down, hopefully.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I also think it's a telltale.

Speaker 10 (40:19):
Sign that if you are a governor, whether you're a
publican or Democrat, it shouldn't matter, but if you are
not going to protect your citizens, then the government will
do that for you. We don't want that. What we
want is local, state, local governments to take care of
their problems. But Donald Trump is shown and President Trump
is shown that if you don't, he will.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Protect the citizens for you.

Speaker 10 (40:42):
And I believe the Americans that are being plagued by
crime will welcome this, even though we shouldn't have to
do it.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Well, I guess that brings me back around to my question. Well,
my statement earned I kind of feel like this is
normal trump manipulation of the political adversaries, where he's basically
trying to get the citizens to start putting pressure on
because Trump knows that he has a lot more leeway,

(41:18):
at least for that short period of time before he
has to go in front of Congress, and as long
as it's successful, Congress might very well extend that time
period that he's allowed to do it. There's got a
lot more leeway to utilize the National Guard in DC
than what he would have stepping outside. Constitutionally speaking, you

(41:39):
pretty much have to have either the governor of the
state ask for that help and then make sure that
it's only in supportive administrative roles. You can't have them
armed and actually policing, or you have to have a
mayor of a particularly bad city step up and if

(42:00):
there is a disagreement between the mayor and the governor
of that state, then you go ahead and move forward
with it on the request of the mayor, and you
let those two battle it out in court, and you
do it for as long as they're having that argument.
But do you think that that that's kind of the
idea here, just trying to get citizens who maybe have

(42:23):
thought their cities are too far gone to now be
able to see that if they could get their local
elected officials to take it seriously and do the work,
they could be safe again.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (42:36):
And you know, a very one of my mentors in
the military, he was a Navy admiral, told me something
one day. He said, you deserve what you accept. And
American citizens need to stop accepting crime. And if they're
elected officials are not going to do anything to stop

(42:56):
the crime, then elect somebody that will. And that's the
problem that we have that I'm seeing in this country
is we have too many people that will accept drug dealers,
homeless people, theft, breaking into stores. What do they call them,
a mob? Mobs theft where they run into a department

(43:20):
store and steal everything off the shelf. Too many Americans
accept that flash mobs, Yes, and we need to stop
accepting that. You see all this rhetoric from the left
where they say resist, resist, Resist, that we're looking at
it the wrong way. We need to start as a
nation resisting the fact that we think it's okay to

(43:41):
have crime and illegal aliens come in our country. I'm
all about immigration, Just do it legally. Let's bring everyone
in that wants to be an American and part of them.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
But they got to do it little.

Speaker 10 (43:56):
And when you have a city that people are afraid
to walk down their street, it's incumbent upon them to
do something with their elected officials. And if they don't,
you know, I'm never gonna say that a parent who
voted Democrat and something happens to their children or an
illegal alien kills their children because they think it's okay.

(44:17):
I will never say that they deserve that, because no
one deserves that.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
But they have to ask themselves.

Speaker 10 (44:22):
Are they setting the stage for terrible things to happen
to not just other Americans but their own families. They
need to get in front of this, and they need
to show it at the election boxes, in the ballot
boxes and get the people that will not protect you
out of office.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
If not, we're just going to continue what's going on.

Speaker 10 (44:44):
And that's what I'm saying is, you know you're not
going to bring the National Guard on duty permanently.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
At some point they got to go home.

Speaker 10 (44:52):
Then the Left's going to say, well, you look, your
national guards went home and crime went back up. And
that's what we want to prevent. We need the civilian
authorities that take care of business their own business.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Yeah, I mean, and that's an excellent point, because the
last thing that we want is to basically reassign a
new mission to the national Guard. They already have a
very important mission, whether we're looking at response to natural
disaster or if we're talking about being ready to supplement

(45:25):
or war fighting in the events of extreme need. You
can't do that if suddenly you are moved into a
position where you are forced to be that supplemental even
if it is just administrative that force. I mean, it's
good to have them available for short time emergency need,

(45:46):
but this cannot be turned into a full time thing.
It does have to be addressed locally, like you.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Said, and.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
If the local citizenry in each of these municipalities, and
each of these can in each of these states, if
they don't step up and demand better from their elected officials.
Then a short term respite is only going to make
that return to the crime feel even worse.

Speaker 10 (46:14):
That's right, And you have know whether you're a Republican,
a Democrat, or an independent.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
I don't know anyone that.

Speaker 10 (46:22):
Likes crime, likes to be dropped, and likes their children
to be threatened, in their family, to be hurt or killed.
I don't know anyone that wants that, and that needs
to be the talking point I believe of the Republican Party.
Let's start talking to all of these Democrats that are
tired of this and say, look.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
You don't have to live with crime. You don't have to.

Speaker 10 (46:47):
And you know that we have faults in the Republican Party,
we have fault of the Democratic Party, and we have
false in the Independent Party. But nobody has to live
with crime unless you accept that. And if you accept that,
you do deserve it. But I would you know, I
would never brag if somebody's family member was hurt because
of a position they believed in.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
But you just think, how do you look your children
in the face.

Speaker 10 (47:13):
And say to them, well, I thought it was okay
to have crime. I wanted this Democrat mayor and I
want all these freedoms for the legal aliens and the
fact that something terrible happened to you is your fault.
How do you look at children in the eye and
say that I couldn't do that. I couldn't do that.
And I just hope every Democrat out there that if
there's any listening tonight, I hope and look at their

(47:35):
children and ask them that, ask themselves the question, am
I doing everything I can do to protect my family?

Speaker 4 (47:43):
You know, from your military strategy expertise and from an
unbiased position just looking at this situation. Does deploying soldiers
in this fashion? Does that help regain trust in our
government and its abilities or actually further eroded because at

(48:09):
this moment in time, it feels like it's a question
of what political ideology you follow. But as we've already mentioned,
once these folks have to go back home, things change quickly.
And if law enforcement hasn't been upgraded and aren't taking
the jobs seriously enough or don't have their hands free

(48:29):
to go do it, because again I do need to
point out most of the time this isn't law enforcement.
This is folks playing politics giving orders to law enforcement,
and they're not given much of an option. So will
this help or does this further erod because I don't
think we've ever seen a point in our history where

(48:51):
the institutions of our government have been so distrusted, and
we need to move towards re establishing trust. If we're
going to whether and re establish or republic as she
was founded.

Speaker 10 (49:04):
Well, that's a great question, and the answer is both.
I think in the short term it's going to show
promise and people will support it because you have a
reduction in crime in DC and that's being well reported
to include the governor or the mayor of DC.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
I guess she is.

Speaker 10 (49:20):
She even acknowledged the fact that crime is substantially down,
So that's a positive. When and if the military folks,
the National Guards start what I would consider policing instead
of having a presence, When you start policing American citizens,

(49:41):
which is covered by some laws, that's going.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
To be a problem and you don't want that.

Speaker 10 (49:47):
And then if you have a scenario think back you
know in Vietnam War era Kent State where National guardsmen's
killed a few people and shot a few people, that's
going to destroy trust in the government. Again, we have
to be careful and I know this is going to
sound conspiracy theory, but it's not. There are other assets

(50:08):
and agents of other countries that would like nothing more
than to have an American citizen killed by a National guardsman,
and there's ways they can try to set the stage
to make that happen, and we have to be extremely careful,
extremely careful not to let that happen. And remember, some
of these guards men and women are extremely young. Many

(50:32):
of them, probably most of them now, have not had
any combat experience, and many of them have never deployed.
So this is actually a deployment for them, which in
the end will actually enhance their abilities to support. But
it's a very very precarious place we're sitting right now,
and it could go very badly, very quickly if the

(50:53):
leadership and the commanders on the ground are not keeping
a watchful eye, and I hope they are, and if
they are, I think it'll turn out okay. You still
have the specter though. When they go home and crime spikes,
there's gonna be two talking points.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
One's gonna be from the left. They're gonna say, see.

Speaker 10 (51:15):
I told you you didn't do any good, and then
there's one from the right. This is going to say,
if we leave a better presence, crime will go down,
and how they package that discussion is important on what
happens next in these cities.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Excellent point is always one more question, colonel before we
start wrapping up, if you don't mind, and that is
regarding it's not as if this is the first time
that we have military involvement in domestic affairs. What exactly

(51:57):
would the history that I know that you say military
officer are intimately familiar with it, maybe the average citizen isn't.
What are the lessons we can learn from previous involvements,
whether it's is it something like a presence like this
or any other involvement where the military has been put

(52:19):
in a situation where they had to be involved in
any fashion and domestic affairs other than emergency aid.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Oh sure, you know.

Speaker 10 (52:29):
A great example of that is Defense support of Civil
Authorities DISCA, which is an ongoing mission for the military
right now, so excluding the National Guard, because the National Guard,
you know, in essence, is going to work work for
the state unless called up by the government. But DISCA
is where active duty military can support civilian authorities. A

(52:53):
great example of that is cal fire out in California.
Camp Pelton Marine Core Base has a bunch of helicopters
and when the fires which happen often the wildfires take place,
Disca will the marincops will support FEMA or CalFire or
whatever entities out there, and they will go out and

(53:16):
drop water on fires using our assets, our military assets.
The plots trained to this, and so this is not
at all unusual. The fact that they're using them what
I would consider I don't want to, I'm not going
to use the term policing, but the fact that they're
doing a presence force in DC is not at all unusual.

(53:37):
We've seen the National Guard called up a few times
for different things. We've seen them called up to help
with fires. It's just another one of their mission sets.
And you know, the other thing for the listeners to
understand today, the National guardsmen are supporting DC. If a
terrible event were to happen, a hurricane, of fire, you
name it, and they had to move them, they could

(53:59):
move them very rapidly. The military trains for rapid redeployment
and rapid deployment. You could pull them out, give them
a new mission, put them in a new location.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
And they'll be up to speed very quickly. You know,
the Marine Corps.

Speaker 10 (54:14):
We're used to doing that on a note, not even
a day's notice. Sometimes, if today the president needed marine somewhere,
the Marines are going to get on an airplane. They're
going to go there, sometimes within twenty four hours. So
moving them is not a problem. This is not unusual.
What is unusual is the fact that you had a

(54:35):
civilian government that allowed the crime to run rampant against
their own citizens, that required the government to step in.
That's what people should see as unusual.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
All right, Colonel, I want to thank you again for
being so gracious with your time, especially given that you're
at an event real quick. Before we say final goodbyes,
please let everybody know where they can find the book.
Please let everybody know the websites, and if you're inviting
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(55:12):
free to share handles and platforms as well. Basically any
final closing thoughts you want to share after you've done that.

Speaker 10 (55:20):
Well, great, well, thank you so much for having me
in the book. You can get anywhere you could buy books.
The easiest is Amazon dot com. My website is Colonel
William Dunn dot Com. The books I think is very exciting.
I think you'll enjoy it. And if you like a
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Speaker 3 (55:45):
And then if.

Speaker 10 (55:48):
I guess my last parting thought is, you know, my
prayers are going out for the young men and women
that are doing this mission in DC, and our brothers
and sisters are all over the world right now protecting
our national interest, a lot of them in harm's way,
and so as we get ready for the weekend, I
hope everybody thinks a little bit about them, and if
you believe in the Lord, throwing some prayers for him.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
All right again, sir, I appreciate everything, not just your
time here, but also the time you have put into
serving the nation, and as you continue to serve in
new capacities that that can't be downplayed at all either.
So great appreciation, Thank you for all the service and
everything you've done. And hopefully we can get together again

(56:34):
and continue the conversation a little further down the road,
and hopefully we'll only have some positive things to talk
about when that happens. In the meanwhile, God speak to you.
Be safe and like I said, hopefully we can talk
again soon.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Absolutely, and thank you so much for having me have
a wonderful night.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
You do the same, ladies and gentlemen. Colonel William Dune,
I don't know what else to say. I think he
aquitted himself in a fashion that teuch you everything you
need to know. In the meanwhile, we have just a
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