Falsely Accusing Men & The Ultimate Vaccine Timeline

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he is a returning guest, and we're gonna be talking
about a new poll and the results that came from that.
And we're also going to be talking a little bit
about a lawsuit and how that played out. But most importantly,
we're gonna be talking about the ongoing work of the

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International Council for Men and Boys. Ladies and gentlemen. Please
welcome back to the show, The stir Edward Bartlett. Edward,
thank you so much for coming back on with us again.

Speaker 8 (07:32):
How are you today, Well, I'm doing very well, Tim,
and it's great to chat.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
With you again.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
All right, Well, let's start out talking a little bit
about this jury.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Award.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Earlier this month, US Gary returned a fifty eight million
dollars verdict for Sean McMaster been falsely accused of sexually
abusing a child and he became em boiled in a
child custody dispute. That was when his ex wife made

(08:12):
this accusation. He was able to prove in court that
it was in fact a false accusation. In my opinion,
while that's a whole heap a lot of money that
he's probably never gonna see all of that's probably still
not enough. In my mind, there should be criminal charges
for the false accusation one of that nature. It's so despicable.

(08:34):
But you, with this organization and with the Save organization,
which you were working with quite a bit on college
campuses previously, you spent a lot of time trying to
help people deal with false accusations, especially this nature. Is
this by far the best positive result you've seen to

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this point, or is this just the beginning of what
we're hoping is going to be a whole reset on
this equality under the law theology that we're supposed to
all be striving for.

Speaker 8 (09:10):
Well, Tim, do you remember the Johnny Depp defamation trial
that was in Virginia several years ago? And I believe
the amount of the jury award was three million dollars.
It may have been two million, but it was something
like that. And at that time, everybody served the gas

(09:31):
in that. Wow, that's a heck of a lot of
money for a false allegation. Well, now we're talking about
fifty eight million dollar verdict that was just earlier this
month in Detroit. It shows reflects on a trend in
our society, a the defamation losses and others lasses in

(09:52):
which a person accuses either a news channel or an
individual of telling a lie and it's a harmful, defamatory lie.
That these lawsuits are becoming more common. It used to
be that, you know, the chances of winning a defamation
lawsuit was close to zero. Well, now the chances of

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winning these losses has gone way up. Fifty eight million
dollars is just the latest example.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, I do think that while, of course the Johnny
Depp lawsuit was a much larger number, we were dealing
with Hollywood celebrities, and we were dealing with folks who
are in a position where I think if we were
to look at net earning capabilities and all this, that

(10:47):
still represents a smaller percentage than what we're seeing with
this fifty eight million here for these folks. So I
think this is way more punitive, so to speak. I mean,
obviously the numbers are bigger, but I think this is
a bigger penalty. But you're right, we're definitely seeing the

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notion that somehow falsely accusing isn't something that we can
look the other way at. We've kind of we saw
the woke mantra of the U two movement or the
me too movement hashtag blah blah whatever, and the believe
all women thing got taken to an extreme. Now when

(11:32):
I say this, obviously I don't mean we should ignore women.
If there's a legitimate accusation at play, should be investigated.
Everybody's do right process needs to be put into place.
But to just take somebody's word for it and then
treat somebody automatically like they're guilty. We've seen the harm

(11:53):
that can cause, and unfortunately it is something that's kind
of just been accepted. Didn't look the other way for
a while. So this is a welcome change of direction.

Speaker 8 (12:06):
Yeah, and I actually just looked up on the internet
that the Johnny Depth Award was for ten million dollars. Again,
that was a heck of a lot of money, you know,
back then. But now we're looking at the fifty eight
million dollars. And yes, we are seeing more I'll just say,
we're seeing more cases of false allegations. I track them

(12:29):
track these cases. A lot of them occur in what's
called family court. That's if a person is in the
process of divorcing and they have children a child custody issue,
the case will go to family court. In family court
lies a diamond a dozen they there's there's really no

(12:53):
need for you know, hard evidence or you know, you know,
actual proof of an allegation. I mean it's sometimes it's
the husband, but twice as often as the wife makes
an accusation of abuse or in this case it was
a child sexual abuse. So yeah, the family courts is

(13:16):
one of the big areas of abuses of defamation in
our society, and it has devastating effects. If you're a
dad and you want to you know, continue to be
involved fifty to fifty kind of thing, and then you're
accused of you know, abuse by your you're soon to

(13:37):
be ex wife. Wow, I mean, it has a devastating
effect on that often on that child custody of war
and you know that dad may end up with every
other weekend and Wednesdays kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, I mean, just to your point, I'll give an
example of something that actually happened to me previously married,
happily married now, but with my first wife we ended
up having a very non amicable split. But one of
the things that happened there because children were involved, she

(14:14):
did file for an order protection and claimed violence against
her And what was most surprising to me is when
I was served with the temporary order protection. You know,
I was flabbergasted. I couldn't believe that any of this
was going on. And the officer literally just he saw

(14:37):
the look in my eyes and he realized that, you know,
obviously this was BS, but he just he looked at me.
He put his hand on my shoulder to get my
attention because he could tell I was distraught that anybody
would even say this, and he just looked at me
and said, look, this is what the family court lawyers
tell these people to do.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
She may not even have wanted to say this, but
they do this because they know there's going to be
hearing later and right now. This is a guarantee because
the court is in a situation where they feel like
it's your word against theirs, and if they make a mistake,
they want to make the mistake on the side of

(15:17):
safety as opposed to ignoring a potential harm risk. So
it was that moment in time for me that I
realized that not only is the system broken, but there
are legitimately officers of the court within our system that
are insisting their clients tell falsehoods. To try to get

(15:39):
an upper hand, at least in the early stages. So
what you're saying it really rings true to me in
a fashion that I think probably a lot of folks
out there can also relate to in one fashion or another.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
Well, Ken, I really appreciate you sharing that personal account.
I've heard that before. But when you say that that
the police officer said that, you know, lawyers are openly
encouraging women to make these false allegations, that is truly troubling.
And again I've heard that before, but when you say

(16:14):
it now sort of the way you know, publicly, it's like, wow,
makes it makes my teeth fall out. That wow. I mean,
this is such a blot on our system of justice.
And of course when a child, and especially a boy,
when a child grows up with only limited or no
contact with their father, they are they are far greater

(16:38):
risk of dropping out of school, juvenile delinquency, criminal criminal involvement.
I mean, there's a broad range of social maladies that
occur when a child loses contact with their father. And
the truth is the US has the highest rate of

(16:59):
child father absence of any country in the world. And
it's not because dads are banding their kids. It's because
dads are being pushed out the back door.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, I mean in a lot of cases absolutely, and unfortunately,
because of the legitimate deadbeat dads out there, we all
kind of get lump summed into the same category no
matter how hard we may be trying, and it really
is hard to ever bust through that wall once it starts,

(17:32):
which is why organizations like yours is really really important
the work you're doing. It's not about being misogynistic, which
I've heard accusations directed your way and I've had to
correct some folks with it because through our previous conversations,
I feel like I'm familiar enough with you and your

(17:53):
organization to be able to stand up and speak that
truth to them. But you know, these it's about trying
to establish a fair and even playing field because there
are just as many people that are manipulative on one
side of the equation as there are on the other.
And oftentimes it's going to be the person who's not

(18:15):
willing to play dirty that ends up losing out. And
then at the end, if children are involved, like what
we were talking about, ultimately it's the children that play out.
But I want to spend a little bit of time
too before we ran out of time talking about this
survey that was conducted some worldwide implications here, looking at Argentina, Australia,

(18:39):
the United Kingdom, here in the States as well. Looks
like false accusations are really a worldwide phenomenon at this point.
But I noticed that these are typically courts that tend
to also have the same mentality of wanting to lean

(19:00):
in a political direction as much as the law, and
when you get into family, courts kind of feel like
they're perfectly willing to make a mistake as long as
they make the mistake based on protecting someone from an
accusation as opposed to what the reality may be. Because
I mean, truthfully, you can almost understand that the courts

(19:22):
very rarely have the time, energy and resources to really
investigate these accusations, and that's part of what the final
hearings are supposed to be about. If somebody comes in
front of a judge and makes this accusation and they're
looking for a temporary order of protection, it would almost

(19:43):
be malfeasans not to go ahead and operate. So that's
kind of what your organizations having to try to butt
up against too. Because there's a certain level of common
sense and reasonable expectations for security and public eighty two.
It's a battle that has a lot of moving parts, right.

Speaker 8 (20:09):
Very much so, And I'm going to be really blunt here,
and I hope you don't mind, But we're dealing with
the feminist movement that is now pervasive all around the world,
and domestic violence is one of their favorite issues and
favorite topics, and one of their tricks is to continually

(20:31):
expand definitions. So it used to be domestic violence was
you know, something physical, but now they have this concept
called coercive control, which is is sort of like you know,
you know, just sort of saying things, you know, nasty things,
and you know, it's it's sort of like you know,

(20:54):
gossipinge about a person, and you know, but if a
person makes an allegation of domestic violence slash course of control, wow,
all of a sudden and Chris, how do you repute
that allegation unless unless you're videotaping your all of your
interactions with your with your spouse or ex spouse, there's

(21:17):
no way you can just prove that. So so it
is a cancer that we're dealing with, and it's not
just the United States.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, at this point. And I think it's also important
for us to recognize that your organization is international, growing
by leaps and bounds. People are getting a better idea
of what it is you do and what the process
is for. Are there any particular areas in the world
where it's worse? I mean, I would imagine here in

(21:53):
the United States, given the way gossip tends to play
and the way our legal system set up, that we
would probably be one of the areas where you're almost
encouraged to be well, to be a little less than

(22:14):
entirely honest. Well, we'll diplomatically say, exaggerate your claims a bit,
although I think you and I know that it ranges
anywhere from a mild exaggeration to full blown fantasy storytelling.
But is the States the leading area or are the
places around the world that's actually worse.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
So our survey did look at four different countries, Argentina, Australia,
United Kingdom, and the United States. The country with the
highest rate of false allegations is Australia thirteen percent. And
this is a you know, a rerant or a nationally

(22:58):
representative sample of respond So this is you know, statistically accurate.
Thirteen percent of respondent in Australia said that they had
some time in their life had been falsely accused of
domestic violence, sexual assault or other forms of abuse, so
thirteen percent compared to the United Kingdom only four percent,

(23:22):
So we do see a lot of variation. We haven't
done this survey in every country, so we don't know
for sure, like if you you know, what is the
situation in Africa? We just don't know. But the point
is that if you know, if you or one of
your listeners is falsely accused of you know, whether it's

(23:45):
child sexual abuse or domestic violence, it's a devastating accusation
and you have to fight it tooth and nail. Make
sure you have a good lawyer to work with you.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Absolutely. What is some of the things last question before
we start wrapping up, What are some of the things
that you guys are doing right now as an organization
to try to help to improve the return to fairness
across the board, to try to help to alleviate the

(24:18):
risk of being falsely accused because we need some legal change,
but there's also other things that can happen. How are
you guys focusing on trying to help improve that's part
of the equation.

Speaker 8 (24:32):
Well, thank you for asking, Tim, Because November we've designated
as Men's Equality Months, Men's equality months. Everybody knows about
Women's History Month in March and that's a good thing,
but to this, until now, there's been no month designated

(24:52):
to talk about men's issues. So November is Men's Equality Month.
And invite and encourage every listener to this interview to
think about what what can you do to get the
word out, whether it's a you know, a podcast or
social media or you know, set up a table at

(25:12):
the library or whatever you want to do. But November
is that Men's Equality Months, and we're hoping we already
have a you know, people in many countries all around
the world, they have volunteered to be coordinators for this
Men's Equality Month.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
All right, So somebody out there listening right now, if
they're in an area where maybe there don't have any
of these festivities going on, where would they reach out
to you guys if they wanted to help.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
Yeah, sure, so I'll share the web address. It's www
dot men and Boys dot net. Men and Boys dot net.
Go to that website and then of the very top ribbon.
You'll see the letters m M that stand for Men's
Equality Months, and there's lots of ideas suggestions there what

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persons can do.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
All right, Well, again, I want to thank you so
much for taking some time out of your visit very
busy schedule and talking to our audience. Again. I appreciate
not only the work you're doing, but your level of
dedication to it, because this is a battle that you
started out on college campuses in America. Now you have
expanded worldwide and the message is the same. It's actually

(26:36):
a message of equality, and I think that's one that
is certainly worth spreading. If there's any other websites or
anything else you'd like to share or a final closing thought,
now would be the time, sir.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (26:51):
Well, the closing thought I would share with your listeners, Tim,
is that people have heard this term patriarchy or a
price of patriarchy, that you men have all the power. Well,
we've eleked at the actual numbers. We've looked at, you know,
life expectancy and educational enrollment in colleges and homelessness and

(27:15):
on and on. It's men who are lagging behind women
in twelve different areas not just in the US, but worldwide.
So let's scrap this term patriarchy. It's just a lie.
There is no such thing as patriarchy.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
All right, sir again, thank you so much, and I
presume we will probably get together a little bit further
down the road and continue the conversation, or at least
I certainly hope. So in the meanwhile, keep up the
great work, and God speak to you, Sarah, have a
great weekend.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Tim, be in touch all right, ladies and gentlemen. Edward Bartlett,
President of the International Council for boy I'm sorry for
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talking about broadcasting worldwide thanks to the great digital platforms
that we are associated with, but occasionally we are fortunate
enough to have a international guest, and that is exactly

(38:43):
what we have up next. She is the author of
The Ultimate Vaccine Timeline, a fact packed history of vaccines
and their makers London, Borne, Swiss and Indian dissent, and
quite an wrestling backstory as to how she got interested
in this particular topic. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to

(39:06):
the show first time guest, Missus Shaws Cohn Shaws. Thank
you so much for joining us this early early morning.
Where you're at now?

Speaker 14 (39:17):
I believe, yes, Tim, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
It's about one in the morning on Saturday, all right,
Well again, thank you for staying up late to be
with us for a little bit. I appreciate that more
than I can express. But before we get into the
primary topic for the evening, I did want to make
sure that the listeners were familiar with your backstory because

(39:40):
you were on a very different path. You studied design
and art, and you just basically were a inquisitive individual
with the ability to think critically and saw some things
that didn't add up, so you dug in the way
I wished more people did with everything we were presenting with.

Speaker 14 (40:01):
Oh yeah, thanks. I am a bit of a geek,
and I actually did love biology when I was in
high school, but I really hated the way it was taught,
so I went into the arts instead. So I learned
the art of I mean, I did product design specifically,
so I learned a lot about marketing and communications and
the art of selling people products and creating a desire
and demand. So I mean, obviously, I'm not even a parent,

(40:22):
so I didn't come across the subject of vaccines until.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I had a personal experience.

Speaker 14 (40:26):
But by that time I was already very interested in health,
in what we understood scientifically treatments. So it was kind
of on my radar in the distance. And as I said,
I'm a geek and I'm not a parent, so I
have lots of free time where I could go and
geek in libraries and national archives and just I'm very
curious and like to get to the bottom of things

(40:48):
if I can, of subjects that I esteem are very important,
such as vaccines, because you're touching about the health of
kids and adults.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
We know.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
The one thing that I think that everyone would be
well served to remember is that these so called experts
are really only considered that based on credentials that they
have acquired, and sometimes those credentials don't necessarily make them
particularly knowledgeable about things that they're discussing. It's real easy

(41:20):
to become degreed in biology but have no real experience
other than maybe spending one semester looking at immunology. So
somebody that's focused on this information and really digging deep
is far more of an expert in the true sense

(41:42):
of the word than a lot of these credentialed folks.
So I would imagine, though you probably still get a
lot of pushback as is often the case with anybody
that claims a bit of knowledge that might fly in
the face of these so called experts. Have you had
a lot of trouble with getting people to take you seriously?
Because I would hope not, but I know the times

(42:04):
we live in, probably it should be expected.

Speaker 14 (42:08):
Well, it's interesting. I mean a lot of people around
me have kind of followed me on my journey as
I did the research so specifically on the history of vaccination.
But yeah, a lot of people didn't take me seriously
because I don't have a PhD after my name, because
I'm not a medical scientist. But I found out quite
late on the medical doctors learned very little about vaccines
and certainly very little about the history. And indeed, I

(42:32):
especially had a friend who was an immnarpologist, had a
doctor in a PhD. And I couldn't even have a
conversation with her because she didn't want to engage in
the science with me, like I didn't have the level
to discuss it. But I did, and I was asking
pertinent questions, and I think it just made her very
uncomfortable to go down that road. But I actually did
attend a vaccinology course in the University of Oxford, and

(42:54):
was able to ask lots of questions and actually got
a lot of positive feedback about the fact that I,
despite not coming from a science article background, had some
very pertinent and understanding questions. And again I would never
call myself an expert on immunology or any of that.
But these people tend to get lost into detail, at
least that was my experience, and they can't step back
and look at the bigger picture. And obviously there's a

(43:16):
lot of pressure with the academic world. You know, you
publish or perish, so you're looking for money for grants,
so there's a lot of pressure on these people to
stay in a certain line, so to speak, which obviously
I was completely free from because this was just a
personal project of mine, self funded, and I had no
one to report to as such.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
So all right, your earned your ways of earning a
living was not going to be impacted, and you didn't
have to worry about people trying to counsel you in
regards to that aspect because you were not part of

(43:55):
that community. It is amazingly free when you can just
pusu sue the knowledge and then try to ask the
right questions and I guess that brings me back around
to this, what exactly made you decide that now was
the time to write this particular book, I mean, the
ultimate vaccine timeline. I have over time come to realize

(44:19):
that people are still amazingly uninformed when it comes to
what the history of vaccines were, and how incredibly trial
and error the earliest days were, and lots of times
it was wild guesses and you know, a bit of

(44:40):
a prayer and lighting a candle when it was successful
kind of deal. What made you decide now was the
time that this was a book that needed to be written.

Speaker 14 (44:51):
Well, I kind of really happened organically, and I didn't
start with the idea of going to writing a book
about the history of vaccines. Is literally because I was
so interested in a lot of time in libraries and
national archives, and when I came across certain documents that
completely contradicted what we've been told by the government authorities
as far as safety and what they knew about the
safety of vaccines and how rare or not you know,

(45:12):
injuries were, et cetera, it was I think there was
actually a key document that kind of just in my
mind is like I have to put this in a
documented form.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
It has to be able to be.

Speaker 14 (45:20):
Shared with people because most people don't have the time
to go and dig deep into this, and they depend
on the information given by government authorities and you know,
the professional societies and Association of pediatrics and all the
rest of it. They're going to depend on those people
as experts to give them the information and the history.
We're all kind of like, you know, it's conditioned to
us from when we're very young that we were saved,

(45:42):
you know, vaccines saved it from smallpox and polio and measles,
and this is the education that we come like it's
a truth, Like it's like gravity for instance. Obviously it
isn't it so, But yeah, it was because I came
across certain documents that I just found outrageous that I
wanted to write it in a book form, and then
COVID happened, and I guess that was kind of like

(46:03):
a propulsion of saying, Okay, I absolutely have to get
as in a physical form that I can get it
out to people so that I can share this information.
Because there's over two thousand facts in my book, three
hundred pertaining specifically to vaccination. It looks the US, it
looks the UK, Switzerland where I'm based, and it also
helps when you put it in the format like that
which I try to stay as neutral as possible and

(46:26):
just state what happened, and as far as what I
could find official documents and medical journals, it's easier to
see and connect dots sometimes for certain events and things
that were moving forward, and also seeing the evolution of
the pharmaceutical industry and the vaccine manufacturing processes and how
the profit model changed. So I think it's very important,

(46:47):
and especially now since COVID. I say, I think vaccines
is an important subject and it's more than ever in
the forefront.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Well, yeah, i'd certainly agree. I have a lot of
personal questions myself when we see certain governmental organizations here
in the States legitimately changed the definition of a vaccine
in order to call certain therapeutics vaccinations because the general

(47:18):
public are more comfortable with vaccines, again because of how
we were taught about it. It's a form of manipulation
as far as I'm concerned. When you saw that the
American Academy of Pediatrics was still urging children to receive
these vaccines, that we have the health and human Services

(47:41):
Department here trying to kind of back off of some
of these vaccines till some more long term resorts can
be done. What was your reaction, Because by rights, before
COVID nineteen came along, we would still technically be within
the earliest trial stages for a vaccine of any kind,

(48:03):
given the timeframe involved, and yet we're still seeing a
lot of pushing, especially in a demographic that typically was
relatively safe health wise from the effects of the disease itself.
In lots of cases, it appeared as if these particular
inoculations were probably causing more harm than benefits were being provided.

(48:28):
So I would imagine that this bit of information probably
surprised you a little bit. But again I want you
to speak for yourself on this. What was your initial
reaction and have you changed your mind since that initial reaction?

Speaker 14 (48:44):
Well, my initial reaction was it's interesting that the American
Academy Pediatrics was kind of like taking a different position
from ACEP and the CDC because they've been pretty much
aligned since the nineteen sixties with their immunization policies and
statements with regards.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
To the schedule.

Speaker 14 (49:00):
Interesting, but the AAPS for anyone who doesn't know, they
receive a significant amount of funding from the pharmaceutical industry,
and the fact that they're pushing so hard to push
this experimental vaccine that by any other measures should have.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Been taken off the market ages ago.

Speaker 14 (49:14):
I mean they just recently, the FDA's just pulled the
license for a chickagunga vaccine because there were twenty serious
side effects and three deaths. So when you think about it,
COVID is like in the thousands of deaths reported, and
that's already probably a large underreporting. They've been estimations of
seventeen million dead worldwide and potentially up to eighty million

(49:35):
people injured. Yet these vaccines are still available and the
AAP is still pushing them on younger people who aren't
at risk. So it's very interesting. But the AAP has
a history of working in alignment with the pharmaceutical industry.
I mean, for those who don't know, in nineteen seventy nine,
already they received a grant from merk to produce a
film that basically was the whole objective was to increase vaccination.

(49:59):
Haven't actually been able to get a copy of that
film because it's actually quite hard to obtain it. It's
called a gift and obligation for anybody who is a
library geek and wants to go check it out. But yeah,
it's very interesting that these institutions we put a lot
of trust in who are supposed to be making policy
statements based on science, are often under the influence of
other interests, and I would argue that they're financial and

(50:21):
they're from the pharmaceutical industry.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Unfortunately, as much as we would like to be able
to have trust, especially when they purport themselves to be
operating for the benefit of children in particular, we would
love for them to put other interests aside and do
exactly that. But it doesn't seem to be those times anymore.

(50:49):
The age of the hippocratic oath meaning anything in the
medical profession seems to have passed. And that's not to
say there aren't dedicated medical professionals out there that it
still aren't doing the right thing. It's just unfortunately, there
is a significant number of people that are now looking
the other way, not asking the right questions or continuing

(51:10):
to promote in the better interest of their bottom lines
as opposed to the actual health they swore an oath
to protect. It is shameful. What has been the most
surprising or shocking thing that you came across while you
were putting together the information for the book, because you

(51:31):
said that you really weren't setting out to write this
book till you saw us a particular document once you
changed your mind. Was there something that you came across
that legitimately, maybe you even still have a hard time
believing now, but you have the receipt there.

Speaker 14 (51:49):
Well, I have to admit I initially had a hard
time believing that the vaccine did not save us from polio,
so because I mean, I never asked any questions when
I got vaccine, and I've received most of the childhood vaccines,
not all of them, because I'm a child of the seventies,
so we didn't have that many back then. But I
definitely was quite shocked and it took me a while

(52:10):
to accept that what we had been sold with regards
to the polio vaccine was largely a lie. And finding
out that they change the diagnostic criteria for polio when
the vaccine came out that by default, whether there was
a vaccine or not, this change of diagnostic criteria changed
the way the statistics for polio were recorded, and obviously

(52:31):
that changes the way that people perceive the number of
cases and number of deaths, and especially especially of paralytic polio,
which anyway, was actually a very small percentage of children
who were affected by that. I think it was about
one percent. So it took me a long time to
digest that one, I have to admit. But when you
see that, and it kind of opens your eyes to all, Okay,
there's these ways, these mechanisms of manipulation by changing the

(52:53):
diagnostic criteria of diseases as the vaccine comes out or
as as specific treatments come out, so they can you know,
shuffle the way they keep the statistics. And measles was
another example. Obviously, smallpox is such an old disease, and
we know statistics back in the days weren't as reliable
as we like to believe them now. But I still
would argue they're not necessarily always reliable. But that was

(53:14):
definitely a big thing that kind of burst the bubble
of realizing that, Okay, we actually have been lied to,
and it's a system because a lots of very very
good people who work within you know, vaccine development, pharmaceutical
industry and insurance, but it's a system that keeps this
narrative alive and basically will destroy anybody who walks out

(53:35):
of it. And obviously everyone is looking for a paycheck.
They need to pay their mortgage, their kids, college educations, whatever,
and that is a huge weight on a lot of
good people who are working in a very corrupt system. Unfortunately,
because over time you also see that, like you know,
the same playbook is applied from the early twentieth century
to what we saw during COVID. It's kind of like

(53:56):
history repeating itself, and I think it's important that people
understand the history so that we can avoid this happening
again and ask the questions we need to so when
the next time there is a pandemic, there's not going
to be the suppression of treatments that could help. There's
not going to be this push to get this vaccine
out at all costs. Because the vaccine by Advisor Komonati,
so the mRNA has made over eighty five billion dollars

(54:19):
since it's come out in twenty twenty, which is a record.
So it's made some very rich people, but it hasn't
brought health to the population. And at this point it
should have been taken off the market while all the
serious damage is caused.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
I think the first red flag should have been for
anybody that when the actual creator of mRNA technology came
out and said, point blank, this is not one of
the uses for this technology. This is not going to
be effective. It is going to cause problems when that's happening,

(54:56):
that should have raised red flags for everybody. And yet
what they did there, instead of holding up firm the
creator of the technology, they then tried to silence him
and any other medical professional that came out questioning it.
And now they try to give credit not for the
creation of the technology itself, but they give credit to

(55:19):
doctor who first utilized it for this type of activity.
And yeah, so much of this has lost, so much
of it is squashed, and so much of it just
isn't available. You're absolutely right. People need to not only
ask the right questions, but they also need to be
prepared to stand up because the harder that folks tried

(55:41):
to silence that kind of information in that kind of discussion,
especially as I already mentioned, when you're still within a
time frame that traditionally would still be considered the experimental
phase of any type of human treatments and protocols. Then
and then you know that they're actually pushing an agenda

(56:03):
other than your well being. Chessa, I want to thank
you so much for staying up late and talking to
us for a little bit. I greatly appreciate that more
than I can tell you. Please let everybody know where
they can find your work, where they can find the book,
and if you're inviting people to follow you anywhere on
social media, feel free to share handles and platforms, and

(56:26):
of course any final thoughts for the evening.

Speaker 14 (56:28):
After all that, well, thank you so much for having me,
tim Sa.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (56:32):
The book is called The Ultimate Vaccine Timeline. You can
buy on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles. I also recommend people
order it in from your local bookstore to keep them alive.
There is a website that accompanies the book, which is
kind of evolving as time goes by. I'm atting documents
and references. It's called the Ultimate Vaccine Timeline dot com.
I'm a bit social media shy, so I don't have
that many platforms, but if anybody does want to follow

(56:53):
the articles I'm writing, there's also a substack which is
in its early days. It's called indie researcher, and I
just want to thank you for your time and remind
people that the health of our children. I mean not
have any myself, but still I love children, I have
friends with kids. I'm an aunty, and it's important that
we protect the health of our children for them today

(57:15):
and for future generations. And it's extremely important that we
ask those hard questions and dare to speak out and
have conversations even if they're uncomfortable. So thank you very
much for your time.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
No, thank you, Like I said, I appreciate you staying
up late to have this conversation with me and I meanwhile,
God speak, keep asking those questions and at some point
where it's not such an issue where you're having to
stay up so late, would love to get together again
and continue the conversation. Thank you so much, God to
be Thank you all right, ladies and gentlemen, miss Shas

(57:49):
Khan again. They'll be links in the show description for
those of you that are watching the show. Watching the show, sorry,
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just you know, if you were listening live and you
missed that, feel free to look up the show, uh

(58:11):
and look in our archives and you'll find it there.
In the meanwhile, we're gonna reset the hour, so you
guys don't go anywhere. Hopefully fingers cross will be coming
back with the purveyor of the Edwards Notebooks, the host
of the Ron Edwards American Experience. Yes, that's right that
time again, mister Ron Edwards fingers crossed. We'll see you

(58:31):
on the other side.

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have you here as we now dive headlong into our
number two of tonight's live broadcast of Tapping to the Truth.

(01:01:08):
You know so far, I think interesting conversation. I really
like Chaz. I think ms Con is a great guest,
and it sounds like a very interesting person. I do
hope we can overcome the time zone challenge and talk
again a lot. I think there's a lot to be
said there. In the meanwhile, we are still waiting for

(01:01:32):
Ron to get hooked up with us, so hopefully we'll
be connected here shortly. But while we are waiting for that,
obviously the hot topic is this Minnesota shooting, and there's
so many different moving pieces that, you know, I want
to kind of start with where I started Wednesday night

(01:01:54):
on the Firefox News online roundtable discussion, and that is
I really do miss the days. I lament the days
when we used to be able to see a tragedy
unferral and out of a sense of human decency, we
would show up and be a supportive community. We would

(01:02:17):
see what we could do to help the families of
the victims. We would try to be helpful, and we
had the decency not to turn it into something political.
Before the bodies were cold. Now we don't live in
those tons anymore, not even close. And unfortunately, now we

(01:02:39):
literally see people running and scratching and clawing and tripping
to try to be the first person in front of
a microphone, in front of a camera so that they
can spout off their ideological concepts. And in fact, I
think it's kind of turned around to bite them a
little bit on this one, because it's almost always the
political left wants to jump on this bandwagon, and when

(01:03:01):
they see children shot in a school, even if it
is a religious school, they want to go to gun control.
And if they had known at the time this story
was breaking that it involved an individual who identified as
trans then this would have probably went the same route
that the other mass shootings in the Minneapolis area had went.

(01:03:26):
They were extremely quiet, There was not a lot of talk,
There was not a lot of discussion. You unless you
lived in the area, probably didn't know there was already
a blood drive going on because they were short because
of the previous mass shootings. This one was not a
factor for that. It was already ongoing. This is what's

(01:03:49):
going on in lands that are controlled and operated by
the farthest of the far left ideological Democratic Party members.
It's about failed policy, and it's about a refusal to
change course because if they do that, they have to

(01:04:10):
admit they were wrong. And now they're having to push
even further and dive even harder into the gun control
side of the argument and pretend like the shooter wasn't
somebody who struggled, wasn't somebody who was dealing with a
mental disorder, and yet it was not gender dysphoria. We

(01:04:34):
know it's not gender dysphoria now because we've gotten access
to more of the writings. We've gotten access to things
that this person was saying and writing and thinking, and
it's obvious. I'm not even going to attempt the pronunciation

(01:04:55):
because I haven't had a chance to practice it enough yet.
But it's a mental disorder where you're actually physically turned
on by the idea of being the opposite sex. It
wasn't about thinking you were, and that much is obvious
from the writing. I don't have to be doctor Carol Lieberman.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
To know this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
It's obvious. You read it and you see it for yourself.
It is there. It's anybody which just a slight understanding
of the psychology involved here can see this now they
identified I'm wondering what's going on. I just got word

(01:05:42):
from Dougie's text and tried calling Ron. Hopefully Ron will
join us in a bit, but if not, you know what,
it's not like there's a shortage of things for me
to sit here and talk about on this topic. I
would love to get his take on it, but that's
just where we're at. So we're facing this and it's

(01:06:08):
pretty clear that this guy was suffering from a mental disorder,
just not the one that everybody seems to think. This
wasn't gender dysporea. But unfortunately, because of the way the
laws are in the Great State of Minnesota, it's one
of those jurisdictions whereas a psychiatric professional, you're not allowed

(01:06:37):
You're not allowed to even suggest that we should try
taking a different route. If your patient suggests to you,
I think I might be trans I think I might
be in the wrong body, you are then only permitted
to move towards full medical transitioning. We've seen from the

(01:06:59):
writings that this kid realized it's like, there's no way
I'm ever going to become the female I want to be,
So there was a certain amount of recognition. Refuse to
cut his hair because that would feel like giving up that,
that would feel like acknowledging that he could never be

(01:07:22):
And then he made some reference to we don't have
the technology. Now, you're never going to have the technology
to do the things that you were wanting to do.
The technology doesn't exist. You are built x Y or
x x, and occasionally somebody out there may get an

(01:07:43):
additional chromosome set, and normally it's not a healthy thing,
but that's not the way humans are typically built. It's
not an intentional thing. It is an error in the
biological processes that technology that he referenced in his right

(01:08:07):
And you may notice I'm not mentioning his name. I'm
not mentioning his pretend female name either, because he also
made it clear that he wanted recognition. And that's the
very reason why a majority of the time I don't
like mentioning mass shooters' names. Lots of times they're looking
for recognition. They want to be famous, and this is

(01:08:28):
how they get there. Maybe I'm not going to be
able to stop the millions of other people out there
constantly mentioning it. But I don't have to add to it,
and so I'm not going to that is a choice
on my part. But this is a person that very
very easily should have been placed into psychiatric care and

(01:08:55):
should have been able to receive the type of care
necessary to help him works through it. And an attempt
at transitioning isn't that. Medical transitioning very rarely, if ever,
does any good. And I get to see any case.
I know a lot of folks out there that do it,

(01:09:15):
and in the early stages they're all happy and excited
about it, and they say lots of good things. But
I have yet to meet one that doesn't get five
years in or maybe a little further down the road
and don't realize that that was the biggest mistake they
ever made. And that's coming from folks that still see
themselves as being in the wrong body to start with.

(01:09:36):
But the transitional process, it's superficial at best. When you
were looking at surgical mutilations and chemical castrations, you're not
doing anyone any favors, and you're especially not doing anyone
any favors when you're putting this chemical cocktail into a
young person's brain as well as their body when they

(01:09:58):
already possibly have chemical imbalances in that brain. To start with,
psychiatrists and psychologists need to be they need to have
the handcuffs taken off, and they need to be able
to treat patients in the way they feel appropriate. In
every one of these persons, every one of these medical

(01:10:19):
professionals needs to be reiterating their oath to do no
harm first, because if you're looking at doing no harm
at the start, if you're looking to do no harm
at the jump, then you're not going to be in
any big kind of hurry and you're probably not going
to be the one recommending any type of actual medical

(01:10:42):
transitioning because there's no evidence, none, zero, not a that
it does any good for anyone. There's plenty of evidence
that it in fact does harm, psychological or physical. It happens.

(01:11:03):
So first, do no harm. I mean, I get it,
and I've said you guys have heard me here. I've
said it countless times. At this point. If you're eighteen
years or older and you want to go down this route,
I still don't recommend it for you because I don't
think it's good for you. But at eighteen you get
to decide, okay, whatever you want to do, you're just

(01:11:24):
gonna have to be prepared to live with consequences. But
this should not absolutely positively should not be happening to
anyone under the age of eighteen. It shouldn't be permitted
if there's not actual, informed consent. And the most important
part of that phrase is the informed part. They need

(01:11:48):
to know the reality, not just so well. Of course
we can reverse those so if we start it, that's
not true. Oh you know, it's only temporary. And if
the change your might no, stop stop lying to these
people and explain exactly for real what you're doing to them. Period.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
I feel bad.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
For the kid.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
That he got himself into this situation where he couldn't
could know he realized that he had brainwashed himself. Literally
says that in some of his writing, realized that he
brainwashed himself, and then he still harbored so much anger
that he couldn't couldn't direct all of it all. I
feel bad for him, but I feel worse for the

(01:12:56):
parents of the lost children. I mean, it's bad enough
you took the coward's way out of suicide, but beyond that,
you took innocent people with you because you were trying
to make some type of deranged point, and the point

(01:13:17):
evidently from the pictures that have been shared that were
saved captured vias greenshot before they all got ripped down
from social media. Evidently the messages, the deranged message that
he wanted to send to the world is that Orange
Man is bad and that God isn't going to stave you. Unfortunately,

(01:13:48):
we do live in an existence where free will is
a thing, and within free will that means that there
is a lot of room for people to do a
lot of very bad things, and we have we have
the options to how we react to that. It is

(01:14:13):
unfortunate that something a bit more direct didn't happen. But
what is downright evil is when you have corporate media
personalities going out and saying, hey, guys, it's not hard,

(01:14:35):
it's the guns. How freaking stupid is that? Idiots, politicians,
office holders going in front of cameras saying, well, you
know what would work is a band on the stubt weapons.
I'm pretty sure. I mean he had a rifle, he
had a shotgun, he had a pistol, which one of
those was the assault weapon. Oh yeah, there's not technically

(01:14:58):
a definition for that is so they get to pass
a band that doesn't have a clear cut definition, so
then they later define it as being anything they don't
want you to have. Well, stop spinning your wheels. This
isn't about courage. This isn't about David Hogg going on
some stupid Sunday Morning show or some other TV show

(01:15:19):
and talking about how Donald Trump is a coward. Well,
you know what their boss, hog, buddy. I dare you
go into Thunderdome with Donald Trump, just you and him.
Two people go in, one person comes out. Let's see
who the freaking coward is. Because Donald Trump's walking out

(01:15:39):
of there. You're not getting out alive. I caring tee you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
Ugh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
The politician's got to be politicians, and talking heads got
to be talking heads, right, we have to make it political.
And oh my god, we can't let anybody talk about
the fact that the tree here and the law in
the state that was involved here, none of that can
be questioned because that's all left wing stuff. Only that

(01:16:10):
right wing extremest crazy constitutional Second Amendment can be challenged.
We've got to change that because some guy couldn't get
the treatment he needed and wouldn't hurt innocent people. How
many times do we have to and when I say we,

(01:16:30):
I mean any conservative with half of brain has to
remind the people on the left that they can pass
any law they want, and it's still not going to
stop the harm and violence. It's going to make things
worse usually because last time I checked, creating no gun
zones just created areas that became targets with even bigger

(01:16:53):
bulls eyes on them. Last time I checked, only law
abiding citizens followed laws. Criminals and you know the occasional
looney tune, they don't typically follow laws. So past all
of them you want. It's only going to handcuff the

(01:17:13):
people who want to be productive members of society. That's
all that's gonna happen here. So please, for the love
of God, stop going out in front of a camera
and the microphone and anybody that's willing to listen to
you and talk stupid nonsense about gun control, because the

(01:17:36):
only gun control that anybody needs to practice is using
both hands. That's the limit, that's the extent that is
gun control the Second Amendment to the Constitution. That's not
a constitutional right granted to you by the government. What

(01:17:58):
on earth, Sorry, I'm peaking into the.

Speaker 11 (01:18:05):
Chat room and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Into the control room. I don't know what's happening in
the control room. Evidently Doug was attacked by a strange
animated cat, and then there was Cake. I don't know
what's going on there anyway, I'm being distracted. This is

(01:18:37):
a tragedy. Stop trying to use tragedy to move a
political agenda. Why can't we return to a time Are
you trying to say that I'm wise, Doug, Because now
I'm getting this out that's agreeing with me. I don't
know what's happening from the control room, but the image

(01:18:58):
is no longer working properly. Stop using people's tragedy to
move your political agenda.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Why do we allow that? Why are we not standing
up and telling every one of these would be dictators
who wants to take away our god given constitutionally protected
rights while they're trying to take himway, why do we
let them continue to have their stay? I mean, really,

(01:19:31):
why why do we put these people in a position
where they might be able to actually influence communities attempting
to take our God given rights away. I kind of
figured that's what you were doing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Dog.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
The question is why Doug was finally confessing that he
was playing with filters. It's like, yeah, I got that.
I did kind of like the cat attacking your head though.
That was kind of cute. But anyway, I guess I'm
getting a little too loud and maybe a little too

(01:20:13):
much and Doug trying to calm me down before my
blood pressure has my freaking head explode. But trust me,
it would be the best show ever and would get
the most listens because everybody's going to want to hear
the show where I finally had my head explode live
on air. If we were doing video of it, people
would really get a kick out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
But just.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
It should not be the responsibility of political commentators to
remind people of common sense, and it's certainly not the
responsibility of political commentators on the other side with the
blood pressure stop it, Doug's just a non the role

(01:21:09):
of political commentators to are office holders that have a
D stuck at the end of their name to try
and convince you to give up your god given rights
to self defense just because some lunatic lost it. And
let's be fair, the lunatic that lost it is a

(01:21:30):
victim here too, not a very sympathetic one. And don't
get me wrong, I'm not trying to convince you that
we should all feel super bad for him, because he
had a chance to make a choice, and he was
still showing that in this writing that he realized that
he had been led astray, but he was still misplacing
the anger, misplacing the aggression. But part of that was

(01:21:52):
because of the actual psychological ailment that he was suffering from.
And it wasn't gender dysphoria. It's the laws in the
state that didn't allow psychological treatment to be done. It's

(01:22:13):
the parents in this case, the mother at the very
least that signed off on allowing the legal name change.
It was the court system that allowed the legal name
change for the purposes of identifying as different. It was
all these failed leftist policies that tell us that we're
supposed to play along with the delusions of people that

(01:22:34):
are suffering from mental illness. I maybe I'm giving away
my age of it here, but I'm old enough to
remember that when people thought that they were Napoleon, they
got put in a nice little safe room with nice
soft walls, and nobody said, okay, mister Napoleon, sir, would

(01:23:00):
you like to go to Waterloo today? No, they treated
them by trying to bring them back to the reality.
We didn't play along with the delusion, is my point.
And of course Doug reminds me that he's old enough
to know better, but that still doesn't mean that he will.

(01:23:23):
I'm old enough to know better, but I don't. That's
an excellent point, sir, an excellent point. We're going to
continue to find out more and more because evidently they're
still finding more of this shooter's writings. We're gonna get
a picture inside of his brain as to what was

(01:23:44):
going on well before this event and leading right up
to it. But I think we've seen enough to know
and to have a good idea of what happened. And
I'm sorry for the mayor of the city, for the
governor of the state, for every day democrat, for every
media talking head that wants to try to cover up

(01:24:05):
and protect. They need to acknowledge the reality, and they
need to stop trying to tell us people like me
when I point out the simple elephant in the room facts,
because if you really want to prevent it from happening again,
you're not going to accomplish that goal by taking guns
out of the hands of law abiding citizens. I mean,

(01:24:29):
I have firearms in my home. I'm not going to
say how many.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
That I have some.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
And to this day many of them have been here
for several years. To this day, they have yet to
even shoot anyone, let alone kill anyone. So either I
have the laziest guns on the planet. I see Doug
has his head. Doug, I know you well frequently watch

(01:25:04):
some of the shows. Did you did you see George
pull his rifle up when he was talking about firearms?
Not Jerify said, But the point is, either I had
the laziest guns on the on the planet, or it's
not the gun person pulling the triggers what's an issue.

(01:25:34):
And unless we can actually get to why the person
was pulling the trigger, then we're not going to be
able to do anything to actively stop it. It's just
not going to happen. All right, real quick, before we
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Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, Thank you so very much
for sharing part of your Friday night with me. I
appreciate it and normally say us because I include Doug,
and I'm normally thinking about whatever guest is with us
as we are moving in. However, our scheduled guest for
the second hour hasn't been able to connect for whatever reason.

(01:34:18):
I hope everything's okay. We'll find out later either way,
whatever may happen. From this point, we're going to move forward.
And as part of that, first I want to go
over a little bit of breaking news with you. He's
out with life.

Speaker 4 (01:34:36):
I forgot.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Oh well, no worries. Some breaking news coming out just
the last little bit. What we've got going on is
President Donald John Trump's efforts to impose tariffs on imports
from foreign governments has hit a bit of a Stumbach
ruling block in the form of a Federal appeals Court

(01:35:02):
decision that came out earlier today. In the seven to
four ruling of the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit,
they found that the President exceeded his authority when he
cited the nineteen seventy seven Emergency Powers Act to implement
many of his tariffs. Now, if this is upheld, then

(01:35:25):
that means tens of billions of dollars in tariff revenue
would have to be returned. The ruling isn't actually going
to officially take effect until October fourteenth. This is to
allow the administration time to appel the decision to the
Supreme Court. The statue in question bestow's significant authority on

(01:35:48):
the president to undertake a number of actions in response
to a declared national emergency, but none of these actions
explicitly include the power to impose tariffs, duties or the like,
or the power to tax. That's a quote from the
order from the court. This particular ruling applies to those

(01:36:13):
tariffs that he made under the authority of the International
Emergency Economic Powers Act, but it does not pass those
that the President moved through other laws. So this is
a limited number of the tariffs that have been imposed,
but it will probably lead to further efforts to stop

(01:36:36):
some of the other tariffs. Anyway. Trump has said that
the billions of dollars of revenue from the tariffs would
help balance the budget and erode the massive government debt.
He's also used the tariff threat to force companies to
bring back manufacturing to the US, as well as to
get certain companies to stop doing woke nonsense and other

(01:37:07):
countries from doing anti American things. So this is a
bit of a issue, I think, if you'll recall, though
we did talk about this at the time that they
were instituting it, and I didn't express some concern that
this might actually happen. It is unfortunate, but it is

(01:37:33):
the way that it is, and this is where we're
at right now.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
The other thing that I had planned on talking about
today is something that has come to be known as flagging. Flagging.
You asked, well, what exactly is that, Well, it is
a certain activity that's been practiced now in the United
Kingdom where they're going through through areas where they're not

(01:38:02):
seeing the British flag being flown and they're starting to
raise said flag in those communities. Now you may ask yourself, well,
what's the big deal about that? Well, the problem is
that in a lot of these communities, different flags are flying,

(01:38:22):
lots of times, flags from certain Middle Eastern nations, certain
Islamic controlled Arab nations. So why would those flags be
flying in communities in the UK. Well, because much like
here in the United States under democratic control, they don't

(01:38:43):
seem to understand that borders are a thing that exist.
They don't seem to understand that there not only are,
but there should be rules pre vetting and allowing people
into your country. There are large communities that are no

(01:39:04):
longer welcoming or open to native born members of the
United Kingdom, whether you're talking about England or Wales or Scotland.
In fact, there was a video that went viral just
the last couple of days of this young girl from
Scotland who was wielding an axe in a machete to

(01:39:27):
try to get these migrants to back off and leave
her alone. And she was with I believe, an older sister.
They were trying to defend themselves from assaults. But the
folks in Scotland and in England proper a fair number

(01:39:50):
in Wales as well, the average everyday citizens that are
trying to make a living, that are trying to live
in these communities, that don't like the idea of their
neighborhoods becoming no go zones. They're fed up and they're
starting to take matters into their own hands again, not violently,

(01:40:10):
they're just removing the flags that are there and they're
raising the flag of the United Kingdom. That's a form
of protest that I actually can get behind. I liked
the idea of it. Here's the problem though, right now
in the UK, this girl who was trying to defend

(01:40:31):
herself in the video, she's facing charges. Why because the
knife blade was a few inches too long. She's actually
involved in an act of self defense in which no
one was hurt. And I would have been more afraid
of the hatchet than I would have been the machete,
quite honestly, although it's pretty obvious she wasn't particularly good

(01:40:51):
at handling either one of them. She was young, inexperienced,
and that's a good thing. But this idea, excuse me,
this idea that somehow it's become okay for these grooming
gangs and for sexual assaults to be happening, even on

(01:41:11):
children on the streets, and that they're not allowed to
defend theirselves, and they're not allowed to go on social
media and post about it. They're not allowed to criticize
that there are hotels that are no longer open and
available to regular people because they've been turned over to
the migrants. All of this, they're not even allowed to

(01:41:32):
defend themselves. Really, I mean, it's not a foreign concept here.
We see similar things where democrats run the show. Oh,
we have to protect certain classes of people, we have
to protect the stuff that we're doing. And if you

(01:41:54):
happen to be a legitimate, natural born citizen belonging, well
sorry but you're last on the list. You're at the
bottom of the constituency. Sorry, little girl, that you were
probably about to be molested if you hadn't taken matters
into your own hand and back these folks off because

(01:42:16):
nobody else was willing to come to your rescue. Sorry
that you had to utilize a weapon that was two
inches too long, so you're not allowed to have it.
You just be raped next time. What is wrong with
the so called leadership in the UK right now? I

(01:42:46):
mean we ask the same questions all the time right
here about people with a D at the end of
their name, and a fair amount of folks that have
stuck in R at the end of their name, unfortunately.
But it's not a problem just here. This is a
worldwide problem. And right now Western Europe has been invaded
by the Islamic Cords and they allowed it. They turned

(01:43:09):
a blind eye to it. They claim they needed replacements
because their own population wasn't doing replenishment level birth rates.
They look the other way. Of these people are raping
your children and your women on the streets. But it's
the women's fault, not the people that you allowed in.

(01:43:35):
That's not immigration, political leaders of UK. That's not immigration.
Immigration is when you come into the country knowing that
you want to be part of where you're going. I mean,
at the very least, if you are trying to escape,
if you're seeking asylum, if you're trying to escape the

(01:43:58):
war torn savage is where you come from, then you
at the very least should be spending a very short,
temporary amount of time in a place like the UK,
and you should be trying to get yourself moved back
to a country that has a culture at least somewhat
quasi similar to your own. But no, you're here on

(01:44:19):
a mission, not just to get out of the country
where you're coming from, but also to try to conquer
the infidels. Oh there goes again and him and his
so called counter Gihod movement, the counter Ghod movement hasn't

(01:44:41):
went away, just got a little quiet right now. That's
what's happening in the UK, and that's what's happening throughout
the West, the West, the rest of the EU. It's
just thank goodness that there's a little bit more what's
the good word here, huspa, that'spa, just a little more

(01:45:08):
gumption on the part of the average everyday citizen in
the UK. That's part of why they exited the EU
in the first place.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
We've had enough, you're just full of grade A male
bovine excrement, and we're moving out. But then they didn't
get rid of the laws that made them so much
like the rest of the EU. So this little girl
now was having to face criminal charges because she had

(01:45:38):
to defend herself, and again for the dumbest reason ever.
The knife blade was two inches too long. You're not
allowed to have a machete in that part of Scotland. Really, okay,
what about what's gonna happen to the people she was

(01:45:58):
trying to defend herself from. Oh yeah, nothing. They were
just told okay, go back home, natchill children, and do
not cause any more trouble. And I'm sure that's exactly
what they did. They were still willing to try and
assault two teenage girls, even after they had a freaking

(01:46:22):
axe and a machete pulled on them. They were still
trying to harass it. I don't think a few pleasant
words are going to discourage them from doing the same activity.
It's just somebody else became a victim. We have got
to return to common sense, boys and girls, freedom and liberty,

(01:46:47):
they're not. They're not an easy thing to hold on to.
There's a heavy price to pay quite frequently. But for
the the love of Pete, why are we making teenage
girls have to defend themselves from people that probably shouldn't

(01:47:09):
be in Scotland in the first place, And why are
we giving the girls grief when they do? I'm sorry,
I as a parent to girls, I'm gonna tell you
I would have given them a freaking gun. No, we
know guns aren't legal in that part of Scotland, but
that's dang sure what my girls would have been armed

(01:47:31):
with and they would have been proficiently used. And I
think the best part is unless they were live streaming
that video, they would never be found. Somebody would be
filing a missing person's report for those young men of

(01:47:52):
the Islamic phase who are harassing these teenage girls, they
would just be missing if that had been my girls,
because they had been well trained not only how to
use the firearms to depend themselves, but also in how
to avoid nasty legal entanglements. I will just put it

(01:48:15):
like that. Is that diplomatic enough?

Speaker 7 (01:48:17):
Doug?

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
Am I making my siscola? It's like if you were
down in Doug's neck of the woods. Uh, those bodies
would been taken out into the swamp and would have
become alligator yum yums. Doug's waving this American flag. He's like,
oh yeah, uh, here in America, we take your business.

(01:48:39):
But you know why they would have been doing that,
because again, they would understand the circumstances, they'd understand the
communities they're in. There are places in this country where
you can defend yourself and you're going to be treated
as if you were the victim who had to take
matters into your own hands. Then there are other places
in this country, and there are evidently places in the
UK where you can be the big and you have

(01:49:01):
to defend yourself, but then you're treated like you're the criminal,
and it's the people that forced you to defend yourself
that were the victims. Well, yeah, they're victims of their
own dumbassy, that's what they're victims of. It just irritates
me to no limit, to no end that we are

(01:49:24):
looking at a situation where this video goes viral. This
girl clearly scared and she's struggling, and Doug says, pepper spray. Also,
it'll shoot thirty if you're accurate with your aid. Well,
yeah you can be if you've got good pepper spray.
But you know what, there are options on the table.

(01:49:46):
There are non lethals, and maybe maybe I should be
recommending some non lethal option. But that's not the mood
I'm in today. I'm in a very much f around
and find out mood at the moment. I mean, one
of the funniest stories of the last little bit is

(01:50:07):
all these Democrats that are really really mad at Mayor Bowser.
She admitted that Trump's workings in DC is actually lowering crime.
She's said it was the part that is a Democrat.
She's not supposed to admit she's impressed with it. All

(01:50:28):
the other DC Democrats are mad. He's talking about he said,
he's thing he is thinking about buying a taser, And again, yeah,
it's smarter to use the non lethals. The problem is
with most non lethals, you get somebody who's jacked up
enough on certain types of drugs, they become useless. I mean,

(01:50:50):
you got to have super high voltage taser to get
some of these folks down. And some of these folks
she can use full blown tear gas on and it's
just keep coming. So I don't know that you need
to be prepared to protect yourself at all times. I

(01:51:11):
don't have a problem with what this little girl did,
and I don't have a problem with the fact that, okay, Scotland,
you want to have along the books that nobody's allowed
to carry a knife with the blade over so many inches. Okay, fine,
fair enough. But I do have a problem with you
giving this girl a hard time considering how you found

(01:51:34):
out she had it. I think, in all honesty, if
she's forced to defend herself from folks that most people
are saying they were harassing her and the other girl
she was with, I believe it was her sister. It's
like harassing is probably too nice of a word. But

(01:51:58):
if she's forced to defend herself, then you need to
look the other way, the same as you're going to
be looking the other way for these boys that were well,
they diplomatically said we're harassing her. Okay, So if you're
just gonna let them go, why are you giving the

(01:52:20):
girl a hard time? You would have never known she
had that blade as long as it was if she
hadn't been forced to do the job of the people
that are supposed to be there protecting them. Why is
this an issue? Why are we even having to have
this conversation? What has happened to Western civilization that we've

(01:52:42):
allowed so many destructive forces get their hands on the
levers of power. What has happened that we have been
asleep at the wheel watching our entertainment, letting our kids
be perverted through the ideological social engineering of morons like

(01:53:02):
Disney and other children's services. Why are we Why have
we let ourselves get to this point. For the love
of all that's holy in heaven, Western civilization is superior.
I'll say it. It is the superior civilization. And because
show me another one that we still have the same

(01:53:25):
belief in protecting the innocent, where we have the belief
the principles of trying to to protect the young from
the harshitties. I mean, granted, there's a lot of folks
that aren't doing that, but those are people that are
outside of the principles. Those are people that are operating

(01:53:46):
outside of the principles that built Western civilization. Western civilization
has led to actual civilized civilization. Alright, I just I know,
we got a few minutes left, but dad, gimmt, I'm

(01:54:07):
about to roll up on another freaking soapbox if I'm
not careful. So other than just chuckling again that Mayor
Bowser of DC saying the part that she's not supposed
to get in a lot of dems mad at her,
we'll chuckle about that, but I just I keep having
the image. If you guys haven't seen the video, I

(01:54:29):
suggest you look it up, because you can tell this
little girl's not really in a position to use these weapons.
But you can also tell that she's legitimately frightened and
she's trying to hide behind a face of anger. And
to see that happen and understand why she's having to
do it, and then just stop and think that she's

(01:54:51):
the one who's in trouble now because the blade was
a little too long and this is just part of insanity.
Don't buy into gun control. Don't allow these people to
convince you that, oh, children died, we have to take

(01:55:11):
guns away from it. That's not going to help solve anything.
We have to stand firm on the principles that we
know work. And when you hear these morons talking about
things that will work, things that we know will make
sure you remind them that all the stuff they're talking
about they've tried and they don't work. We know how

(01:55:32):
to protect our children, we just need to start doing
it again. And we need to stop letting these morons
not only have their hands on the levers of power,
we need to stop letting them have a seat at
the table because they're too stupid to have a vote.
That's where I'm leaving my very angry f around and
find out final moments of this Friday night. Ladies and gentlemen.

(01:55:55):
I do hope you have a great weekend, and I
do hope you'll come back and listen next week. Meanwhile,
don't take my word for anything you heard me say.
Please go check it out for yourself. But for the
love of God, do not take the word of any
of these other morons out here that are saying the
exact opposite. Put in your own effort. Be sure to

(01:56:15):
uh research and use legitimate sources, and most importantly, please
use your brain if you really want to tap into
the truth. Have a great weekend, everybody.

Speaker 19 (01:56:35):
That's all, folks, Your baby Gone was a world's farm.

Speaker 11 (01:57:04):
When you were just a little squirt, you learn the
rules of defensive.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
Tool so that no one would get hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
You learn to breathe, and you learned to.

Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
Squeeze till you're Able's always true. You made the right
of passage man with your first reel twenty two. Tell
the New World order through? Well, then may you lear demands?

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
They don't feel safe, and you are wrong, you say, County.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
Stroll, he's using both halves.

Speaker 5 (01:57:51):
Fathers knew the second amend that was the final quet
keep hold on other license, so never because she she's.

Speaker 11 (01:58:07):
Starling a thermology in Paul pot and told.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
Us things that you never forgot.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
The teacher lessen to.

Speaker 5 (01:58:14):
Your daughter sas they're the government the fear of acts.

Speaker 4 (01:58:23):
Now a new world daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:58:24):
True, Well, they're making their demands.

Speaker 2 (01:58:29):
They don't feel safe, and you all wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
To say God control is using both.

Speaker 5 (01:58:35):
Hands, like the third the freedom't wait, so the time
suits of free me more than a thousand enough to
take my battle name.

Speaker 4 (01:59:09):
Now the New World are not through.

Speaker 1 (01:59:12):
Well, then magis.

Speaker 5 (01:59:16):
They can pass one hundred balls, but we still won't
give it down.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
All of these things. Abe if they try to take
this Pam have the kids and ree SAMs don't.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
Control is using both hands

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