Forged in Chaos & the End of the 1619 Project Grift

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Hello and welcome to today's broadcast of Tapping to the Truth.
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military operative as well as the author of Forged in Chaos,
The Origin Story, a Warriors origin story. I got better
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author A Forged in Chaos, a Warrior's Origin story, and
now he is with us at the moment. Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome first time guests to tap into the truth. Ladies
and gentlemen, Tyler Gray, Tyler, thank you so much for
coming on and joining us this evening. Before we get started,
how are you today? Okay, evidently we lost Tyler. We're

(09:03):
trying to reconnect. Hello, Let's see if we can get
there all right, Tyler, thank you so much for joining
us today. Before we get started, how are you great?

Speaker 10 (09:18):
How are you?

Speaker 9 (09:20):
I'm doing very well. I want to thank you very
much for coming on with us tonight. I appreciate you
taking time out of the schedule to come talk to us.
Before we get into the primary topic, I did want
to talk a little bit about the book Forged in Chaos,
a warrior's origin story, you're taking and you're helping to

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shine a light on the struggles that a lot of
our premiere warriors are, are fighting forces have when they
are built in Forged literally is a good word for it,
So that makes it a great title. But forged in
the crew battle and then when they come home, the

(10:02):
battle turns inward.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
And it leads to a lot of struggle. I've got
to ask.

Speaker 9 (10:09):
Of course, obviously, we see a lot of high suicide
rates among our military folks. We see a lot of
broken promises quite honestly, when it comes to what we
expect from our men and women in uniform and then
what happens to them when they returned from having performed
their job dutifully.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
But what was the trigger point for you? What did
you see that finally made.

Speaker 9 (10:33):
You decide you had to write this book, You had
to start speaking up on behalf of are your fellow
brothers and sisters in arms?

Speaker 11 (10:43):
For me, it was, you know, as you just kind
of mentioned, it was and you know, it was going
to the VA and being told, you know that I
had PTSD and that was that was That was the
specific diagnosis, and I literally got and I forget the
exact number, but it was between eight and twelve bottles

(11:03):
of pills, not joking. I took them as prescribed, and
within a day I was unable to function as a
human being. And so I left the VA. I put
those medications in the track trash. I never went back,
And at that point, which was over a decade ago,
I essentially made the promise to myself that I was

(11:24):
going to figure out what the issue or issues was.
And once I went through the long process and felt
like I had answers, then I absolutely knew that I
had to put what I had learned out to everyone else.

Speaker 9 (11:38):
Yeah, certainly the kind of information that a lot of
posts could could find very handy. And I think it's
important too that for the people that take for granted
what the folks to put on that uniform that stand
up posts, what they've done for us, especially the folks
that have gone into hot zones, been active duty in

(12:00):
combat roles. You know a lot of us who haven't
done that take for granted what that's like, what you
go through, what you sacrifice, and not only the fact
that you're away from home for a long time, in
your in harm's way, but that you do change as
a result, your mindset change is not just the training,

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but the world, world scene. And then when you come back,
it's not an easy plug back in, even into the
family unit, the people that love you and try to
want to embrace you again, sometimes that they don't even
recognize you. This is a tough thing, and I think
is important that those of us who haven't served keep
that in mind at all times, because it is a

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much bigger sacrifice than we tend to realize.

Speaker 11 (12:46):
You know, one thing I really tried to do with
the book was to not only write it, you know
for veterans, it also applies to first responders, but I
also wanted to really educate let's say, you know, family
members or immediate family, spouses, children, and society in general

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at what were the side effects of, you know, as
you just said, this job. Because at the end of
the day, look, it's a self destructive job. You know,
it's that's what it is, and that's okay. But the
problem is, you know, how you have to act to
do that self destructive job. Once the job ends, it's

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really hard, as you mentioned earlier, to go back the
other way. And you know the lion doesn't go back.

Speaker 12 (13:35):
In the cage.

Speaker 10 (13:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (13:38):
Well, I've unfortunately, over the years, had to be very
very critical about the VA. I do talk occasionally to
people that work for it, and I know that a
lot of the frontline folks tend to be well meaning
and they're trying to do the.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Best they can do there.

Speaker 9 (13:57):
Absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, And I occasionally come across some veterans
who brag about the care that they get at their
local office, but unfortunately that's few and far between. Based
on what you've seen in your own experience, what is
the biggest issue in just trying to keep some of

(14:18):
these promises on our end when you guys have went
and done this, What could be done to make the
VA better across the board?

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Do you think?

Speaker 11 (14:28):
I mean, obviously that's a complicated, complex question, but to
your point, you know, one of the good and ultimately
the problem fundamentally with the VA, in my opinion, is
two things. One, it's a governmental agency. You know, I
tell people all the time, it's like, you know, healthcare

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at the VA is like going to the DMV. You know,
that's just what it is, and that's you know, that's government, right.
The other problem isn't, in my opinion, the VA's fault.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
The other problem is a fundamental.

Speaker 11 (15:01):
Problem, I should say, with our entire medical healthcare system,
which you know the VA falls into. It's all being
done essentially in a way that I have now seen
firsthand just isn't work. And the way to prove that
is if you look at PTSD at this point, you've

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got an all time high awareness and an all time
high level of treatments, and yet the problem is getting
worse of suicide the epidemics. So if you had an
all time high awareness and all time high options, it
should be going down. The fact that it is going
up means in my opinion, that the entire fundamental disease

(15:43):
has been misdiagnosed.

Speaker 9 (15:46):
Yeah, it's certainly to the average person applying common sense.
If enough people know about it, and enough people think
they're treating it, and yet nothing's getting better, that's usually
the end cater to go back to the drawing board.
Let's figure out what we can do differently. Absolutely, and
and like you said, unfortunately, if helps care is struggling

(16:10):
to deal with it in the first place, we know
the one thing that government is really good at is
wasting money and making it more difficulty.

Speaker 12 (16:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 10 (16:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (16:20):
So it's really, you know, just another you know, part
of that fundamental machine of over medicating, treating symptoms, not
the disease. And you know what I talk about, what
I'm saying in the book is I'm putting out all
the things that I was told it was what I

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discovered it not to be, and then what problems and
issues that I actually uncovered, and then the solutions that
I found for them. So my hope is that it
can illuminate a path forward for those veterans first responders
that are currently in the dark like I was for years.

Speaker 9 (16:58):
Yeah, and obviously a problem that is not relegated to
just a few. We see it across the board. All right,
let's switch gears a bit, because you know, I definitely
want people to be aware of the book, and we'll
come back again and let everybody know where they can
find it, hopefully the university to read it once we

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start to wrap up.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
But in the meanwhile, I was curious.

Speaker 9 (17:25):
To get an actual battle tested soldiers take on what
we're seeing currently between Israel and Iran. Given the fact
that there's a lot of misconception, I think a lot
of misinformation, a lot of people scared to death that
we're about to go into World War three, or that

(17:47):
we're about to try to go occupy or aunt, a
lot of stuff that I don't think is anywhere close
to the tables. I've been way more dismissive of a
lot of that, and I've been trying to keep things calm.
But it's not like I've actually been out on the
battlefield wearing the uniform. So I would imagine your perspective
might be a little different. What what's your take on

(18:08):
how it's gone so far and where do you think
this might be headed?

Speaker 11 (18:12):
Well, first of all, to what you just said a
second ago, I think, you know, the reason people have
those fears is because the you know, Iran is intentionally
trying to fan those fears. They're intentionally doing a you know,
a propaganda campaign to try and.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Stroke those fears.

Speaker 11 (18:36):
And in my experience of you know, Iraq, Afghanistan, the
one thing I've learned is that terrorist organizations do a
great job of propaganda, and we do a horrible job.
I've seen it over and over again, and so Iran
is doing the exact same thing. And I can give
many examples World War Three. Look, at the end of

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the day, I've heard that since I as a kid,
I'm sure the same as you have. It was, you know,
Russia in the eighties, and you know, there's always something
that that you know, fear is a mechanism for control.
Where I think it is right now. First of all,
I'll say that Israel as a person in special operations,
all missions or generally all missions are intel based. You

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don't go unless you have specific, detailed, accurate intel, and
so far what I've seen from Israel, I don't. I'm
not in currently, so I don't know exactly how they're
doing it, but I can tell you the Israeli intel
is spot on. It's shockingly good, shockingly good, how they've
targeted individual sites, et cetera. So on that note, when

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Israel talks about you know, where they you know they
have intel showing that they're trying to build a bomb.
First of all, I'm going to believe them because of
what I've seen their intel do. Secondly, I think anyone
with some degree of common sense has to it has
to be, it has to be blatantly obvious that Iran

(20:04):
has been trying to develop a nuclear weapon for some time,
the fundamental and people who say, although, no, they're not
building a weapon. I mean the Iyatola himself has said
he wants to wipe Israel off the map. I mean,
these are his own statements. So you can't make statements
like that and then at the same time say, oh,

(20:25):
I don't know what's going we're doing it for you know,
nuclear power. You can't believe anything that regime says. Look
at the way they treat their people, Look at the
way they've fought us through proxies for years. Look they're
not doing it for nuclear power. They're obviously doing it
to put together a bomb. I think Israel and Trump

(20:45):
is aware of specific intel detailing that threat. And I
think personally, I don't see with the way the Iotola
has been so far, I don't see him negotiating. He
just is irrational and in my opinion, and so it's
my belief that I think there will be some level

(21:06):
of the limited strikes. That being said, I don't think
we'll see any ground troops on the ground, right.

Speaker 10 (21:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (21:12):
Just one of the things that's really really bothered me
about some of this wild speculation. People have literally talked
about ground forces an extended conflict, and they tried to
to equate it with what happened in Iraq, and then
of course with everything that happened in Afghanistan before our

(21:36):
ridiculously botched withdrawal. There's a right way and the wrong way.
Nothing wrong with wanting to get out of a nation,
especially when you've been there twenty plus years. But there's
still a right way and a wrong way to leave,
and we definitely did that the wrong way that falls
at the very top. Nothing that the men and women

(21:57):
in uniform could do about it except follow the order
and hopefully not get blown up in the process.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
And unfortunately a few.

Speaker 9 (22:04):
Of our men and women didn't quite make that out
of the airport that faithful day. A lot of shame
and a lot of finger pointing, rightfully should be directed
at the top rest. But that's beside the point here.
I think you are, in fact spot on, and I
think part of this negative attitude we seem to have

(22:25):
two camps, have a legitimate camp of folks that are
just fully embracing isolationism again. And I don't know why
this mentality continues to rear as ugly head over and
over again, because we've seen now historically multiple occasions when
the US withdraws from the world stage, that things just

(22:47):
go really, really bad, and eventually we have to return
and we have to forget about any level of diplomacy.
It has to be military intervention. Whereas if we're just
present and we occasionally demonstrate a willingness to not just
carry a big stick, but to occasionally use it on
folks that need to be reminded what the pecking order is,

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things tend to go better between those folks. And then
I genuinely think a large amount of anti Semitism seems
to be drawing this ire about trying to put this
wedge between US and Israel, and they just don't seem
to understand a nuclear a nuclear capable Iran is not
just a threat to Israel, It's not just a threat

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to Saudi Arabia. It's a threat to whoever they can reach,
because they honestly believe they're a part of a sect
of Islam that believes in the twelfth Imam's return, and
they think they have a responsibility to create the worldwide
caliphate by getting rid of folks like us. So you

(23:53):
take historical ignorance out of the equation there's just so
much of this doesn't even seem to be factoring in
the facts on the ground there.

Speaker 11 (24:04):
Well, you know, I read a quote and I forget
whose quote it was, but it was a great quote,
and I'm paraphrasing, but it was something along the lines
of most people's opinions don't change from with facts because
their original opinion was never based on any facts, you
know what I mean. The reason people aren't you know, going, oh,

(24:26):
this makes sense is because they're making these opinions based
on their feelings. And let's be honest, You've got an
entire you know, portion of the news media that's putting
out these you know, fears and false narratives and misinformation.
And again we're aware of it, especially at this point,
so I'm not surprised that it's happening. You talked about isolationism.

(24:47):
I mean, let's talk about a time of isolationism. You know,
World War Two wouldn't have been World War two had
Roosevelt not been isolating and didn't do anything when multiple
red lines were crossed, you know, by World War two,
Germany so as you, and the world was way more
disconnected for lack of a better term, then than it

(25:09):
is now. Simply put, as you just said, you cannot
the world is so interconnected in so many ways, and
you just can't retreat inside your walls and think everything's
going to be okay, because there is a whole nother
world out there. There are multiple groups of individuals, you know,
state states, countries and are state sponsored organizations and countries

(25:33):
that want to do us harm, and they will if
we don't stop them prior to it.

Speaker 10 (25:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
Absolutely, Well, you know, I glanced down here at the
clock and I recognized that we are quickly running out
of time. So what I would like to do right now, Tyler,
is give you an opportunity to throw out any particular
final thoughts that you would like to share, and then
please let everybody know where they can find the book.
Feel free to share any websites that you would like to,

(26:03):
and of course, if you invite people to follow you
anywhere on social media, you're more than welcome to throw
out handle some platforms where you can be found too.

Speaker 11 (26:12):
Absolutely, so Forging Chaos, what it's really about is a
lot of people think that, you know, the forging came
from the military, and actually, in my perspective, been it
started most of us had chot child chaotics childhoods. So
the book really talks about where these patterns were formed,
what they led to in a way that hasn't out

(26:34):
been put out before it releases on July fifteenth. It's
currently up for pre sale on Amazon Forged in Chaos
Tyler Gray with an E, and you can find me
on Instagram Tyler A. Gray with an E, as well
as my website Tyler A. Gray within the dot com.
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 9 (26:55):
I'm sorry I I got disconnected there temporarily with audio,
but again, I want to thank you so much for
coming on and joining us tonight and absolutely appreciate everything
you've done. Thank you for your service, and thank you
for continuing to be service minded for your fellow man
and an effort to try and get this information out.

(27:18):
I appreciate it greatly and I'm sure the listeners do
as well, and I highly encourage everyone to check it out.
Keep up the great work, sir, and I would love
to have you back on and continue the conversation down.

Speaker 11 (27:30):
The road any time, sir, Thank you so much for
having me all right, Thank you ladies.

Speaker 9 (27:35):
And gentlemen, mister Tyler Gray and there will be, of
course links in the show description if you happen to
be listening to the podcast after the fact. I'm sure
he's shared the best place is to find the book.
My connection with Doug just kind of went wonky. Everything
else was fine. I just kind of was completely lost
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here spend a lot of time at town Hall and
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other college professors. She's earned probably several medals. We definitely
need to a lot her very very highly. She's also
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talk about the books, she is currently serving as a
fellow at the Alexander Hamilton Institute for the Study of
Western Civilization, and she's the founder of the Dissident prof

(40:26):
Education Project. Mary, if I go on much further with
your resume, I don't think we're going to have time
to talk, so I'm going to stop right about there,
except to mention that, along with some of your great books,
your latest one is debunking FDR The Man and the Myths. So,
first of all, thank you so much for coming on

(40:47):
and joining us tonight, And secondly, how are you today?

Speaker 17 (40:51):
Oh, I'm doing great, and thank you for inviting me.

Speaker 9 (40:55):
Oh well, I'm certainly happy to have you here, looking
back at the battle that you've been engaged in and
trying to make.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Sure that some of the.

Speaker 9 (41:07):
Left leaning propaganda is an allowed to fester. That you
actually spend a lot of time literally debunking a lot
of this stuff. And you do that not only through
your books, which I do appreciate the fact that debunking
ends up in the title of several of them, but

(41:27):
that you focus on things that nobody really denies.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
You know, there's not a big argument.

Speaker 9 (41:33):
Over the information you put forward, but you just put
it in the right packaging to make it harder for
the focus on the other side of the argument to
continue to defend it.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
And I love how you do that. That takes a
special gift and you are very good at it.

Speaker 17 (41:52):
Well, thank you. Yeah, I mean, you know, if you're
referring to my latest article in the Ceral List, it
has to do with my second book, which was debunking
the sixteen nineteen Project. And I've found when you try
to engage people in debate about their information and their evidence,

(42:13):
that they just shut you out. And so since that
book came out, I've been following along with the activities
of the creator, Nicole Hannah Jones, and just trying to
keep up with her and monitoring where she is, how
you know, how often she's speaking and so forth. So,

(42:35):
but I noticed that it seems that President Trump's policies
are having an adverse impact on her. So, you know,
it's always good to know.

Speaker 8 (42:46):
I just lost him. Go ahead and talk for a
couple minutes while I try to get him back.

Speaker 17 (42:51):
Okay, Yeah, Well so anyway, you know, as I you know,
I'm working on a number of projects that the same time,
and my book on Debunking FDR came out in March.
I'm also monitoring what Nicole Hannah Jones is doing. And
I noticed that, you know, her speaking gigs are drying up,

(43:15):
and it seems that her fees are flatlining at the
rate she was earning shortly after. The sixteen nineteen project
came out in the summer of twenty nineteen, and it's
for those who may not know about it or have
forgotten about it. The sixteen nineteen Project maintains that the

(43:37):
real year of our founding is not seventeen seventy six,
but sixteen nineteen when the first Africans came over and
landed in Virginia and that was the beginning of our
slave oocracy, which is a term that she uses. So
her project is rife with air historical errors that she

(44:01):
knows are errors. And what I do is I systematically
go through her sixteen nineteen project in my book Debunking
the sixteen nineteen Project, and point to the evidence that
reveals that she is flat out wrong, and also point
out where she has admitted that. But of course I

(44:22):
have been blocked on Twitter, and so that's typical of
what she does to her critics.

Speaker 9 (44:31):
All Right, I want to apologize. I lost connection with
Doug for a second. I think there may be some
technical issues somewhere between here and there. But yeah, I
mean it was released, It was highly touted by the
New York Times. They promoted it, they knew it was
propaganda to begin with. They even referred to it not

(44:53):
as history but as a bold reimagining of history. So
there was almost like this wink in a nod that
they knew they were just flat out spreading propaganda to
try to help move and propagate the diversity, equity and
inclusion ideologies, and it really fanned the flames for a

(45:14):
lot of violence here in the United States had it
not been for a lot of this uh new effort
to bring about the discussion about reparations again that of
course has taken place before but had kind of quietened down.
It was re emerging here on a national level. But
so much of what was going on they just knew

(45:37):
it was false, and they still wanted to spread it
and propagate it. And I know you've made the point before,
but it was astounding to me, Mary, how how quickly
we saw this just be adopted into school classrooms.

Speaker 17 (45:53):
Yeah, it was you know, prepackaged that way.

Speaker 10 (45:57):
You know.

Speaker 17 (45:57):
So when the project came out as a special issue
of the New York Times magazine, immediately they had lesson
plans sent to students, to thousands of students in school
various school districts. So this was all planned very carefully
in advance. And you know, the intention is to rewrite

(46:22):
our history and of course as an argument for reparations,
which Nicole Hannah Jones then came out with a long
essay in the New York Times magazine. I believe it
was in twenty twenty in the following year, so there's
a political agenda behind it, and you know, the rewriting

(46:42):
of history, the falsification of history you will see, usually
does have a political agenda behind it, and it often
involves money.

Speaker 9 (46:55):
Which I guess that's kind of the good news here, because,
like you were saying, I Nicole Jones has seen a
sudden decrease in the amount of money that's coming her way,
and in my mind, that's a signal. It's a very
positive one. I think the American people have kind of
come around to the idea that the legacy corporate media

(47:19):
has picked aside instead of trying to just keep you informed.
And I think they've seen that the people that they
thought they could trust and that they could believe really
were playing a bigger grift game than the folks that
they didn't think that when it was the case. And
I think ultimately most Americans don't like the idea of

(47:42):
our nation being founded not on the principles of liberty,
but just being this great, big villain in the world.
And I think we're just kind of tired of that.
And most people, I think innately knew that this was
false to begin with, that they kind of read it
as if it was just some fiction or something they'd

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watch on a Netflix special or something.

Speaker 17 (48:07):
Yeah. Well, you know, when I was still teaching before
I was canceled, I you know, was speaking to tea
party groups if you remember those, you know, over ten
years ago, and it was trying to get people to
you know, call their representatives and complain about how their

(48:29):
tax dollars were being spent on putting on these Marxist
conferences and for biased textbooks and so forth. And so
I'm really glad because you know, President Trump here on
this term has come out and attacked you know, the

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ne eh And so Nicole Hannah Jones had a gig
out in Oregon which was sponsored in part by the
Oregon Arts Council, which gets its money from the federal government,
and you know that's being dried up. And then at Harvard,
she was supposed to be the commencement speaker for an

(49:13):
affinity graduation. So you know, you probably know that we
no longer have one graduation for all the graduates. You know,
there are separate ones for the black graduates, the Hispanics,
the disabled, and on and on. And because of the
federal pressures being put on Harvard, the administration said no,

(49:37):
you cannot have your separate graduation ceremonies on campus, and
poor Nicole Hannah Jones, it was such a blow to
her dignity. She had to give her commencement address in
a hotel room at the Marriott in Cambridge. So she's
come down a little bit in that regard, which is

(49:59):
nice to see, although she's still making a lot of money.

Speaker 9 (50:04):
Yeah, well, you know, as she's gotten really good at
doing that in this fashion. I think it is indicative though,
the fact that the people that want to try and
paint the United States in a negative light, they have

(50:25):
to result resort to falsehoods and misdirection. And that's not
to say that there aren't plenty of real and legitimate
criticisms that can be made. No nation that has existed
for more than five minutes is perfect, But on the
grand scheme of things, I think we tend to be

(50:46):
doing a bit better than most countries have throughout their history.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
And that's mostly.

Speaker 9 (50:53):
Because that the people in general understand that this was
something special upon its founding. But when we take a
look at the people that attack the country, that have
such negative things to say, that are really trying to
twist the hearts and minds of young people. That's something
that you literally had a ton of experience with during

(51:16):
your years of teaching, and you know, you kind of
when you started writing the books. The first one, of course,
was debunking Howard zen That really got a lot of attention,
and you made a point there of getting that developing
that argument for making the case that you need to
be able to tell and identify what propaganda looks like.

(51:39):
And then when you followed that up with debunking the
sixteen nineteen project, it seemed like just common sense for
those of us who had been paying attention. But this
was such a valuable thing for a lot of young
folks if you could get them to read it. I'm
kind of curious again, was this kind of an afterthought

(52:03):
or was this something you were going for all along
when you moved towards this latest book, debunking FDR.

Speaker 17 (52:13):
Well, I'm always interested in exposing the falsehoods, and so
my motivation for debunking Howard z In actually came much
earlier than when the book finally came out in twenty nineteen.
So in twenty eleven I was already proposing it, and
at the time, I was still teaching, and I you know,

(52:37):
heard about Howard Zinn and you know, did a little
bit of research on him and realized that he had
actually been a member of the Communist Party, so you
know where his motivations are coming from and distorting American history.
And I thought that, you know, that students should be
able to go to a book, a source and look

(52:59):
at the evidence, you know, and I would provide that
because when you pick up something like the sixteen nineteen
project or A People's History of the United States, which
is Howard Zinn's magnum opus, you read it and you say,
there's got to be something wrong with this because it's
so one sided's so anti American, so hostile. And then

(53:25):
you know, once you start, you know, picking it apart,
you see here this was distorted, This information was left out,
these words were twisted around. And so what I try
to do is to provide a resource in that way.
And then also with Franklin Roosevelt, I mean, he is

(53:45):
lauded in history books. You know what the lessons the
students get in school, you know, is that he, you know,
saved us from the Great Depression in German fascism and
he is this big hero and that's not the case
at all. And so you know, that's another figure that

(54:06):
I feel needs a more truthful treatment. And so my
book is a you know, a biography of him essentially
up until the early years of his presidency.

Speaker 10 (54:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (54:21):
Well, I'm personally glad that there was somebody out there
that is dedicated to making sure that the truth is available,
and that.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Is certainly what you're doing.

Speaker 9 (54:35):
I glance overrare at the clock, and again I recognize
that I am woefully short on time for having the
kind of conversations that I would like to really get
into with you. So I'm definitely going to be extending
an invitation to come back, but I would love at
this point to give you an opportunity to share any

(54:55):
final thoughts that you would like to put out there,
and then please let everybody know where they can find
your work, and if there's any other websites that you
would like to share, do that as well.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
And of course, also if you.

Speaker 9 (55:07):
Invite people to follow you on social media, you're more
than welcome to put the handles in the platforms they
can find you at as well.

Speaker 17 (55:15):
Yes, well, I am on exer Twitter at Mary Graybar
and that's g R A b R. And I also
have the website that you mentioned, dissidentprofit dot com. That
is my nonprofit education reform group or project that you know,

(55:36):
for two years to get nonprofit status from it for
you know, that's another story under the Obama administration. But
I do have a newsletter that I send out and
you can sign up for my list, and I will
send out mailings when I have articles published, or if
I have a book coming out, or if I'm speaking someplace.
It's a great way to stay in touch. And you

(55:58):
can read my other articles Marygraybar dot com. And all
of my books are published by Ragnery. You can go
to their website, which is now part of Skyhorse, and
you can also find them at Amazon or Barnes and
Noble or any other place that books are sold. And

(56:18):
so you know, I always I always welcome critics, I
welcome debate, and but I hope you know, my evidence,
you know, speaks for itself. And I hope that you know,
students and others can profit from the research I've done,
and you know, profit from what I've tried to provide,

(56:41):
which is a corrective to these false histories. Uh, you
know about this country.

Speaker 9 (56:47):
Ye, all right, Well again, I greatly appreciate your dedication
and your effort to try and make sure that there
is at least a counter balance for young people who
are seeking information and knowledge.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Thank you so much for what you do, and God
speed to you.

Speaker 10 (57:06):
Mary.

Speaker 9 (57:06):
Hopefully we can get back together and continue the conversation
some point down the road.

Speaker 17 (57:11):
That would be great. Thank you.

Speaker 9 (57:14):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, that was Mary gray Barr.
And again, if you're listening to the podcast version of
the show later on, there'll be links in the show description.
Those of you listening live. If you didn't quite catch
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the time, and you not only do your thing over

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at Red State, but you still manage to make time
to write really great articles over at your sub stack
the Gumshoe politics and throw on top of that. I
continue to be jealous to the fact that you are
phenomenal at the short form.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Blog not blog, but blah blah. Let me try that again.

Speaker 9 (01:05:40):
I kept trying to say pod, and I kept saying blog.
I don't know the short form podcast. In your face,
fantastic stuff is usual. You've been on fire here the
last two weeks. Uh, just really really great work. So
I want to give you a hat tip there right
off the bat. And then, as our usual arrangement, I'd

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like to spend kind of the first half of our
time together talking about stuff that's generally in the news,
not necessarily stuff you've written about. And then the second
half of our outing we'll be talking about stuff that
I know for a fact that you've definitely read written
about that maybe isn't necessarily on everybody's radar or maybe

(01:06:22):
but they don't have that take that you've taken. So
with that having been said, let's start with one of
my proudest moments of this past week, and that is
the Supreme Court's release of the ruling in the United
States against Scara METI.

Speaker 18 (01:06:44):
Yeah, you know, I haven't been following that very closely.

Speaker 6 (01:06:48):
But.

Speaker 18 (01:06:50):
You know, I'll tell you what I do think about it,
just just you know, based on what you know. The
very basics of what I know about it is that
you know, yeah, you obviously know better than I do
what people of Tennessee think, and it's probably what the
vast majority of Americans think, and that is is that

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people should not be mutilating children. And I think not
only was this a big win for parents and and
for children obviously, it's it's a big win for for
just the idea, you know, just the idea that you
would would would attempt to perform these procedures and these

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surgeries on children. I mean, it just you know, every
time I hear something about it, it's just it, it's
it's mind boggling. And I don't I don't have children,
I'm not a parent, but it's mind boggling to me
that you would you would willingly take your child somewhere

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and have their body mutilated in such a way that
you are facilitating what what by by a lot of
different studies and things over the last few years have
shown is if if a child does not have a
specific diagnosis of gender dysphoria, it's a phase and they're

(01:08:20):
gonna grow out of it.

Speaker 10 (01:08:21):
You know.

Speaker 18 (01:08:21):
I can remember being ten years old having little green
army men, you know, but fortunately my parents figured that
that was just a phase. But yeah, I mean, I
think it's it's a big win for for the anti
child mutilation crowd like us, and uh, you know what,
let's hope that it spreads. Let's let that that it's

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gonna happen in other states. I don't know that we'll
be lucky enough to have it happen in in in
states like you know, Blue states, New York, California, what
have you. But you know, it may be that it
happens in enough red states that that people are going
to find refuge there, you know, and they'll come to

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other red states Florida, Tennessee, what have you, Texas, you know,
to escape the threat of US. So, yeah, I mean
it's a big win. It's a big win all around.

Speaker 10 (01:09:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:09:19):
Well, I mean I think you summed it up pretty
nicely for somebody who hasn't been following it very closely.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
Becky.

Speaker 9 (01:09:26):
Yeah, I mean, this is a case where I think
too many people ignore the fact that it really isn't
a situation where parents for really being allowed to parent
their children. You have several blue states, and not to
mention some of our neighboring nations that are run by

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globalist leftists that literally will swoop in and take your
children away from you if you don't adequately affirm their ID.
And we see like California that are actively trying to
find workarounds to let people break the laws in other
states that they might be living in, like telemedicine allowing

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them to mail abortion drugs across state lines where it's
not permitted within those states.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Crazy stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (01:10:20):
Oh yeah, go ahead and have a friend drive you
into California and we'll take care of you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
However we need to do.

Speaker 9 (01:10:28):
But the other aspect here is a lot of parents
get bullied into going along with this.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Oh oh, I know, I know.

Speaker 19 (01:10:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:10:36):
I mean I was just thinking that, you know, there's
so that there's a lot of parents who will have
these doctors who have to be making a lot of money.
This is an industry. It's an industry now, and then
doctors are making a lot of money and they're telling parents,
you know, would you rather have your kid commit suicide
or transition? I mean, are you kidding me? It's just

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it's evil.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
It really is, no question.

Speaker 9 (01:11:01):
But evil is kind of the brand for the political
leftact and I guess it kind of always has been,
speaking of which I don't know if you've paid much
attention to this one either. This one's kind of a
lesser story, but it would love to get your reaction
on it. Representative Maxwell Frost a Democrat, of course, but

(01:11:26):
from the state of Florida. He was on with Stephen
Colbert Thursday night, and he made some ridiculous statements. He
basically said that ICE was engaging in human trafficking. He
said that they're terrorizing and kidnapping illegal aliens. I think
that goes beyond spin or gross mischaracterizations of.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
What's actually occurring.

Speaker 9 (01:11:51):
But I just it boggles my mind that they can
get away with such blatant lives and still get cheers
on national elevision, even if it is a specialty crowd
or possibly even just piped in sound effect.

Speaker 18 (01:12:07):
Yeah, yeah, no, I did. I did see that, And
I just you know, it's it's it's kind of maybe
the two stories are related a little bit in the
fact that if you think about it, that the lengths
that they are going to to to get what they
want and and to further their agenda, the fact that
that you would you would say out loud that ICE

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agents are now human traffickers, which which is ironic given
the fact that democrats in the left they are champions
of human human traffickers who happen to be illegal aliens,
you know, not and not just human traffickers, but murderers
and rapists and cartel members. So it's really kind of
ironic when you think about it that he would say that.
But yeah, I saw that, And you know, of course

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Stephen Colbert is gonna you know, nod his head like
a bobblehead, you know, and and probably you know, the
whole audience is going to app like seals. I mean,
they're all on the same they're all in the same
group think you know, chat room, so but it's just
just it's like just when you think you've heard it
or seen it all, they come up with something else,

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and it's just I don't know at this point, if
they're all trying to play can you top this? Or
you know, you have to wonder if if it wasn't
so so deadly serious, it would just it would be
downright comical. I think you would think you were watching
the Comedy Channel or something.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:13:31):
Well, I guess for Cobert that kind of makes sense
because that's literally the funniest thing that has happened on
his show since he stopped being part of The Daily Show.

Speaker 18 (01:13:43):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:13:46):
And and I think you hit the nail on the head, Becky.
They are playing a game of top this. They are
so desperate for leadership, and I think they all recognize
it that now they have all this performative activity going
on between the folks that are getting themselves arrested and
the folks that are trying to just uh pretend as

(01:14:07):
if they've been horribly victimized but they're still willing to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Stand up for the farmers and the migrants and the.

Speaker 9 (01:14:14):
Oh my god, how about you stand up for the legal,
tax paying citizens in your district. How about you stand
up for them, because that would change.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
Of pace and right.

Speaker 18 (01:14:25):
And a perfect example of that is if you talk
to people who live in AOC's district. I mean, the
place is just an absolute hellhole. You know, there's you know,
open air prostitution going on and drug dealing and it's
just you know, it's a nightmare. And but but but
she's too busy, she's she's too concerned with with finding
the next camera and you know, going somewhere with Bernie

(01:14:48):
Sanders to make the next outrageous statements, so she can't
really be bothered with her constituents.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:14:54):
I think that has a lot to do with her
most recent statement, when she was talking about how it's
really important to get a handle on the media ecosystem
because right now it's just way too easy for people
to go online and to spread lives and disinformation. And

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of course I'm thinking to myself, she's right, but I
don't think for the reasons she's thinks.

Speaker 18 (01:15:22):
Exactly exactly right. Right, But you know, I just I
don't know. I sure would like to see it happen
in twenty twenty six, that maybe the people in her
district will will have just decided that they've they've had enough,
you know. But the problem with that is that, you know,
they wouldn't be sending her back to bartending. She would

(01:15:44):
get some cushy job as a lobbyist or something. But
you know, it sure would be kind of fun to
see that happen, and the camera cameras wouldn't wouldn't exactly
be chasing her around anymore, that's for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:15:59):
Well, I agree with you, But I also think that's
exactly why she's now seeking a much larger audience and
looking to try to garner her favor in districts that
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
Her well enough.

Speaker 9 (01:16:13):
She's got her eye on higher office, one that might
require a nationwide and Bernie Sanders and their crew and
a bunch of like minded morons have probably got her
convinced that she's got a realistic chance.

Speaker 18 (01:16:28):
Oh, I'm sure they do. I'm sure they do. You know,
it's you know, they're probably telling her the first step
is to primary Chucky Schumer, and then after that the
sky's the limit for her, and she's she's dumb enough.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
To believe it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
Well, you know, the thing is in New York, that's true.

Speaker 18 (01:16:47):
That's true New York to the whole different can of worms.

Speaker 9 (01:16:51):
Yeah, Unfortunately, trying to take that Senate seat from Chuckie
might not be such a hard thing to do because
she doesn't necessarily have to win her district in order
to get it. Exactly, she jumps up to statewide and yeah,
I'm not sure though, if she's not thinking going ahead
and going for the White House. I mean, who are

(01:17:12):
the Democrats really gonna run out for that office?

Speaker 18 (01:17:17):
They're It's funny because I just heard somebody, maybe yesterday
we or the day before, talk about their bench, and
I thought, what bench?

Speaker 10 (01:17:28):
What?

Speaker 18 (01:17:28):
What bench do you have? I mean, what are you
talking about the nearest park bench? Because it certainly isn't
a bench full of qualified people to run for anything.

Speaker 9 (01:17:39):
But well, it depends on who you asked, Becky, if
you asked Jasmine Crockett, Oh, well, yeah, I mean according
to her, Kamala Harris just had such a fantastic resume,
which I guess if you just looked at the resume
out of context, didn't actually look at what actually occurred.

(01:18:02):
It could pass as being for a politician quasi eye respectable,
But then when you actually know what happened in each
of those situations, not so much. I mean, she hasn't
been to Europe either, so why should she go to
the border?

Speaker 17 (01:18:23):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:18:24):
Right?

Speaker 9 (01:18:25):
But then again, Jasmine Crockett, Yeah, uh, where AOC used
to be the fresh face, Jasmine Crockett is the new
fresher face, I think.

Speaker 18 (01:18:37):
So yeah, there there's another contest of can you top this?
Can they top who's who's dumber than a bag of hair?

Speaker 10 (01:18:46):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:18:47):
Well, one more topic before we slipped towards the uh
the mid hour break, and check on Doug because Doug's
it seems to have jerky snow today and he tried
one that was super spicy.

Speaker 8 (01:19:04):
I'm still here, but I threw up once, uh never
again on that one. My amus will pay for that
one bite later.

Speaker 18 (01:19:20):
So again, jerky, It's hasn't been a good time for you.

Speaker 9 (01:19:27):
It's pretty rough, it's pretty He'll be all right though,
at least that's what he's saying.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
I certainly.

Speaker 9 (01:19:34):
Definitely hope, so I definitely would feel a greater level
of sadness because I would feel bad in the first
place if he's just not feeling great, but I feel
even worse because here he is as a result of
trying one of the show sponsors, so that that's easy,
like a double botus.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
Remember when they stay spicy, they mean spicy.

Speaker 17 (01:20:00):
Yes they do.

Speaker 8 (01:20:01):
Yeah, all I got is heartburn now, all right, and
it's a baby.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
All right.

Speaker 9 (01:20:11):
Well, let's sneak this extra topy huge win for the
Trump administration. The Ninth Circuit came down. They said, uh,
Donald Trump does have the authority to have control the
National Guard, even if Governor Newsom doesn't like it, and
they pointed to the fact that, uh, there was legal

(01:20:31):
precedent for it, and they demonstrated the laws that Donald
Trump did in fact sight when he activated them. So
Newsom's upset. I think it's a big win. But I
also saw where the judge in the lower court that
had tried to take the National Guard away from the
commander in chief to give control back to Newsom said

(01:20:54):
that he was now thinking about issuing a new injunction.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
And to me, I'm thinking, how much more do we
have to put up with these?

Speaker 7 (01:21:05):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:21:08):
Insurrection is legitimately the word here insurrectionist judiciary judges that
not only should be removed from the bench at this
point because of their lack of respect for you know,
little things like the law and the Constitution, but maybe
should be facing legal charges of their own. How much
more are we going to have to put up with this?

(01:21:29):
It's insane, Becky.

Speaker 18 (01:21:31):
I completely agree. I mean, every time you see one
of these, one of these judges make, you know, making
these national decree, national injunctions on something that Trump is done,
you know, I totally agree. I agree, A yes, it's
a big win. It's it's anyway. First of all, anytime
you can you know, you can get Governor Hairgel there,

(01:21:53):
you can get his panties all in the bundle. That's
always fun for us. But but uh yeah, I mean
it's it's quite constitution for him, for the President of
the United States to if he believes that there's a
need to federalize the National Guard, he's well within his
right to do it. But uh yeah, I mean I
thought months ago, I thought there was supposed to be

(01:22:16):
Congress was supposed to be working on some sort of
legislation to rain these judges in And I don't know
how much more needs to happen either. I mean it's
like every time you turn around, they are issuing some
new injunction. But you know what, a few months before
I don't remember if it was before the election or

(01:22:38):
it was that middle time between the election and Trump
being sworn in, Chuckie Schumer said out I mean he
said the quiet part out loud, that this is what
they had been working on. They had been working on
getting all these leftist judges confirmed, and now we know why,
because they they can't fight the Trump administration. They can't

(01:22:58):
fight the Trump agenda, uh, in in fit by by
any fair means. So they have to do it this way.
The only their their only means to fight is through
the court system. But yeah, I totally agree.

Speaker 17 (01:23:11):
Agree.

Speaker 18 (01:23:11):
Yes, it's it's a huge win, and uh because it
may prevent other blue state governors from from trying that.
And the first, the first Blue state come governor closest
to me that would come to mind would be JB. Pritzker.
But yeah, I mean something needs to be done about
these judges. Definitely something, and I hope it's soon.

Speaker 9 (01:23:33):
But uh, I think our only real problem here is
this is one of those things that would require not
only the House to push it through, but it would
require sixty votes in the Senate, and I don't think
we have enough Republicans that are uh there. There's even
a few that aren't rhinos per se, but they they're
kind of squichy and they're afraid of the public calling

(01:23:57):
them names, so I don't think they just got it.
So you've got to convince enough Democrats to cross the line.
I think there might be enough in kind of purplish
districts that you might be able to get close, but
it would be a tough haul. But what I would
really like to see at this point, since we can't
seem to get enough judges going in the right direction,

(01:24:19):
is maybe for Congress to do their.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
Duty and.

Speaker 9 (01:24:24):
Just do away with these lower repellate courts for a
little while till we can reassign and reassess. Because Constitution
just calls for the Supreme Court, they've got to be
there after that. Congress has the authority to create new
courts to assist them. But looks like we're just creating
more work for the Supreme Court, not assisting them in

(01:24:45):
any real way. And if you can't honor the Constitution,
if you can't honor federal law.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
How do you even purport yourself to be a judge?
Just it boggles my mind.

Speaker 9 (01:25:01):
Yeah, Becky, we will go ahead and take the mid
hour break right about now, and then when we come
back we will continue. Please stay where you're at all
you find folks out there listening, Please stay where you're at,
and the conversation continues on the other side of this
brief break.

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Before we get started back with any other topics, please
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If you want them to find you there, that is.

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All right, And of course, if you're listening to the
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because you know, it seems like so much fun when
the legacy media does it. But the ree reason why
I'm making this obvious statement and not just a baseless claim,
is because you waited till Juneteenth to write over at
Gummashoe Politics about a decade of Donald Trump.

Speaker 17 (01:34:42):
That's funny.

Speaker 18 (01:34:42):
I really didn't think about that one, but you're right
I did. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, if you
think back about you know, wow, what what what a
decade has been? You know, you know we can remember
I wanted to start right at the beginning, you know,
when Donald Trump came down the escalator there at Trump

(01:35:03):
Tower in twenty fifteen, and it was like the media
jumped on the first thing.

Speaker 17 (01:35:08):
That he said.

Speaker 18 (01:35:09):
He when he stated the obvious that that countries like
Mexico were not sending their best and brightest people to
the United States. And boy, have we learned that to
be true in a tenfold, you know, but said they
jumped on the first thing he said, and they were
from there. They were often running. And would we have

(01:35:31):
ever ten years ago in twenty fifteen, after watching Donald
Trump announce his candidacy for President of the United States,
would we have would have any of us, even you
know this staunchest Trump supporters, would we have ever in
our wildest dreams thought of the stuff that has happened
to him that he has overcome. And I mean from

(01:35:54):
the most ridiculous like I said to the media claiming
that he was telling people to inject themselves with bleached
during covid to. I mean, if you just think of
the most most you know, ridiculous things that they've accused
him of all the way up to assassinations, attempt assassination
attempts last summer, I mean, would we have ever dreamt

(01:36:16):
that any of that was going to take place. It's just,
you know, it really boggles the mind when you think
about it, and the fact that he's overcome it, and
the fact that he's right where he needs to be,
back in the Oval office now, which is, like I said,
it's it's the left's worst nightmare. It's it's a giant
Fourth of July celebration and military parade all rolled into

(01:36:39):
one for them. You know, they can't stand it. And
the best part about that for us is that we
have three and a half more years of it. And
so it's just going to be three and a half
more years of the left losing their mind. And you know,
if we think, if we think ridiculous statements like ice
agents are human traffickers, wait a year or two and

(01:36:59):
see what they come up with at that point, because
you know, just just when we think we've heard it all,
look out.

Speaker 9 (01:37:05):
You know, you're absolutely right, And yeah, part of me
one was kind of wondering if maybe it wasn't a
conscious effort.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
To do this on June teenth, but I think you've
answered that question.

Speaker 9 (01:37:22):
It is just delicious timing, as everything with Donald Trump
seems to be. It's just another aspect of what's going
on now, is this fake civil war within MAGA where
you know, the legacy media would love it to be true,
a bunch of leftists would love it to be true.

(01:37:44):
We've got a lot of algorithms and a lot of
bots out there trying to make it look like it's
trending on the various social media sites. But at the
end of the day, there are three things that are
inevitably true. Number one, America first does not mean American isolationism.
Donald Trump has not changed his core ideologies about important

(01:38:09):
international policy period. And Also, you can wish for it
all you want, you're not going to make a change
that way. So I think we are going to, like
you said, see a lot more. It's going to get crazier.
And the only thing I'm concerned about is AI is
getting so good they might eventually do some kind of
deep bake that it might actually make people convinced that

(01:38:34):
Donald is secretly having a love affair with Vladimir.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
And who knows what else.

Speaker 18 (01:38:41):
You know, never say never at this point, I mean,
you know, and anything with them is entirely possible.

Speaker 9 (01:38:48):
I think, yeah, absolutely all right, something that you wrote
about actually.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
Posted today over at Red State.

Speaker 9 (01:38:57):
Two years after the Biden administration completely ignored East Palestine,
we've got JD Vance and RFK making a big announcement
about investigating the long term effects of these chemicals that
were released. Now, we talked a lot about this at
the time of this train derailment, when this happened, all

(01:39:20):
the chemicals that were involved. In fact, you were pretty
much a regular coming on the show at that point too,
and I'm pretty sure we talked about it at least twice.
And the thing that aggravated me more than any other
aspect is that this was a pretty red district and
it really did feel, at least from where I was sitting,

(01:39:42):
as if this was a case of Biden and the
people around him not given a damn about these people
because they didn't vote for him anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
That was literally the feeling I got.

Speaker 9 (01:39:53):
But I'm glad to see that somebody's actually looking to
move forward to see what the effects are.

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
Going to be.

Speaker 9 (01:40:01):
Of course, you wrote about it today, so I'm gonna
let you take it from there.

Speaker 17 (01:40:06):
Well, you know, I did.

Speaker 18 (01:40:07):
I I didn't include that aspect of it. I was
afraid that maybe, uh, you know, we we have brilliant,
fantastic editors at Red State, But I thought they might
think that that was a bit too much speculation. But
you know, I mean we could all, we could all
kind of see what was going on. But uh yeah, yeah,
it's it's about time that that these people got got

(01:40:31):
the help and the and the answers about what's going
on with them and and their community and the and
the environment around around them. It's about time they got
some answers to that. And it's taken. It's taken. Uh
jd Vance, who at the time was an Ohio senator.
Uh those were his constituents. And I said in my

(01:40:53):
article today that he when this all first happened, that
he uh you know, was was, you know, trying to
get the the Biden administration over and over and over
to do some sort of of research and some sort
of take some sort of inche of and find out
what the long term effects of these chemical spills might be.

(01:41:13):
And he's you know, basically said that they just they
wouldn't lift a finger, They couldn't be bothered to do it. Now, yeah,
I think I think it's it's fairly good speculation that
because this was a pretty red district that that that
was the other reason that that Joe Biden couldn't be bothered.
But you know, as as I said in my article
that that most of the things that happened on his

(01:41:35):
watch were kind of over the whole entire administration's head.
They just didn't know what to do, you know. I
mean it took Transportation Secretary Pete Buddha Judge, took him
three weeks to actually get there to find out what
was going on. Not that he would have done anything
once he once he got there, except waltz around in
a safety helmet and a and a neon green vest.
But you know, it's it's it's gonna be a a

(01:42:00):
good thing that they're they're going to invest a pretty
good chunk of money. They're going to invest about ten
million dollars in this study to find out exactly what
the long term effects in the community is going to be,
what kind of effect it's going to have on people's health.
I would also imagine what kind of effect it's going

(01:42:21):
to have in the air and the water and the
soil in that community, and those those are the things
that people need to know because if five years, ten years,
fifteen years down the road. People are getting sick, people
are getting cancer, their kids are getting sick. They need
to know why they're getting sick, and they need to
know if there's some they need to know what caused

(01:42:43):
it in order to treat it. And you know, so
I'm glad to see that maybe we are maybe maybe
we're going to get this ten million dollars that was
doged out of somewhere else that was being used on
something ridiculous and it's finally going to be used on
on something useful. Uh, something that that will help a

(01:43:05):
lot of people. But yeah, I was, I was glad
to see it.

Speaker 9 (01:43:10):
Yeah, all right, I got I've got three things I
need to sneak in at this point. Number one, Uh
is dozed now a verb.

Speaker 4 (01:43:22):
I mean, I'm vig with it.

Speaker 9 (01:43:24):
I google it, Okay, I just I don't want to
be behind that trend. And that's that seems like a
pretty cool trend.

Speaker 17 (01:43:33):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
Yeah, It's olding than just what's happened already.

Speaker 9 (01:43:37):
It's also important to find out if there's still ongoing
effects that can be countered, if there are things that
can be done now preemptively to maybe prevent some of
the long term effects that could be with involving people's health.
There's a lot of positives that go with this that
again which is completely ignored. And then the third thing

(01:43:58):
I would like to point out is you mention good
old mayor Pete mister, I'm going on maternity leave, and
nobody even realizes I'm missing. It took him three weeks
to get there, but it wouldn't have mattered. I don't
think he would have showed up at all if it
hadn't been for Donald Trump campaigning at the time, showing

(01:44:18):
up first and actually showing.

Speaker 4 (01:44:21):
Up for the people of East Palace State.

Speaker 9 (01:44:24):
Without that, I don't know that we would have seen
any representatives for dividen administration.

Speaker 18 (01:44:29):
Oh yeah, I agree, I agree, I think. And Donald
Trump showed up literally the day before Pete Booda judge did,
and he showed up with palace of water. He showed
up with cleaning supplies, he bought lunch at a local
McDonald's for all the first responders. And when Pete Boota
Judge showed up, like I said, in his little safety
helmet and his little green kneon vest, the first thing

(01:44:51):
I thought of was, and I guess you have to
be of a certain age to remember this. The first
thing I thought of was Mike Ducaccas in the tank
with the helmet on. That that was exactly the vibe
that it gave off. And yeah, no, he was he
No one would have showed up. Joe Biden didn't even
show up. It took him a year to show up,
and and by then who cares you know?

Speaker 10 (01:45:12):
Now?

Speaker 9 (01:45:12):
To be fair, Becky, it was a very traumatic thing
because we know Joe Biden's love of choo choo trains.
This would have been like seeing his dog shot a
train off of the tracks.

Speaker 4 (01:45:24):
Oh no, in given his mental state.

Speaker 9 (01:45:27):
But I gotta tell you, I think the analogy of
Mike Ducoccus in the tank is a perfect one. But
the image I got was more of a Bob the Builder.

Speaker 4 (01:45:38):
But saying the other thing, Yeah, it was no, we
can't not yet, we can't, right right right? Okay? Yeah,
I gotta tell you though.

Speaker 9 (01:45:50):
Becky, I was really really angry on Juneteenth, and it
had nothing to do with the fact that a strictly
Texas thing has been made a federal holiday.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
So I didn't get my mail and couldn't do my banking.

Speaker 9 (01:46:05):
Your article at red the State published on made me
just to read the title made me say something that
I never thought I would say in my lifetime.

Speaker 4 (01:46:17):
David Hogg was right, Yeah, yeah, oh I know, I know, yeah,
I'm not.

Speaker 18 (01:46:26):
In all fairness though, And I had some people point
this out to me and I and that I probably
was was lax and not including this is that when
David Hogg wants new candidates, he wants he wants new
uber left candidates. And and while that may be true,
that the bottom line is is that he wants fresh blood.
And you know, the uh, the dinosaurs and the Democrat Party,

(01:46:50):
the Nancy Pelosis and the Chuck Schumers and you know,
all of those people who are hanging on to power,
you know, with their bony fingers for dear life, just
aren't going to let that happen.

Speaker 4 (01:47:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:47:02):
I don't think they're gonna have much choice though.

Speaker 4 (01:47:04):
Pretty soon.

Speaker 9 (01:47:06):
The current head of the DNC, he's seen open revolt
and resignations from longtime members like Randy Weisgeiver for example,
she's out. She's like, Nope, no more, and she's she's
walking away from a pretty cushy gig because they couldn't
get along. But evidently he hasn't been able to get
any major contributions from some of the biggest Democratic donors,

(01:47:32):
and if they don't do something to fix that soon,
they're not going to be able to borrow very much
more money because they're already in a position where the
coffers are running dry. I think while the candidates that
David Hog is looking for, and yes, he's wrong in
that count. And honestly, I'm still just picking out that

(01:47:54):
that was phrasing. The actual title is our Democrats finding
out David Hog was right. But the fact that I
have to say David hoggins right is part of that
that that still stings, Beggy.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
It stings a lot, But.

Speaker 18 (01:48:07):
I never thought I would see it say it either.
But you know, I think they're going to find out
that that while maybe they don't maybe there are some people,
I'll put it that way there, maybe there are some
people in the party that don't want the socialists.

Speaker 17 (01:48:23):
That he does.

Speaker 18 (01:48:25):
Uh, he's I'll say this, I'll say he's half right.
You know, he's he wants he wants new ideas and
fresh blood and and maybe some people with some younger
people with some ideas that might actually work for them.
But again, you know, as soon as he uh made
that statement, they promptly showed him the door. So, you know,
I think between when you when you step back and

(01:48:47):
you look at it, all the fact that they they
they just don't want to you know, all of these said,
all of these entrenched swamp creatures don't want to go anywhere.
They don't want to uh pass to pass the baton
to the next generation. Couple that with the fact that
all the big money donors are like, yeah, not so much.

(01:49:08):
We don't really want any part of this current state
of the Democrat Party. The way it's in. You know,
it's not looking good for them. On the flip side
of that coin, we cannot get complacent, and that's my
biggest concern, not just for twenty twenty six, but for
twenty twenty eight, that Conservatives and Republicans. And I say
that because we know that oftentimes those are two very

(01:49:30):
different things. We cannot get complacent and we cannot get
cocky and think that we've already won, because we most
definitely have not. We've we got to still act like
we're you know, there's two minutes on the clock and
we're down ten points, you know, So that's my biggest concern.
Is that we're gonna get too complacent, but I hope not.

Speaker 9 (01:49:52):
Yeah, And that's why it follows upon people like us, Becky,
to do our part. You're certainly doing yours to get
a this information out there, and I'm trying my best
here behind the microphone and making sure that people are
hearing what is actually going on as a journalist, though

(01:50:12):
you're big on the who, what, when, and where and
how questions. So I think we're in agreement that David
Hogg in this instance has the.

Speaker 4 (01:50:22):
What correct, but the who.

Speaker 9 (01:50:26):
Is very much not correct. But where do they go
in order to get the donors back in the stable
and helping to pad the bank account? They've got to
start finding people that a Democratic voting base is going
to get excited about. And again, their most competent, best

(01:50:46):
candidate that could probably make a serious run at a
national level is a man that they will never allow
because he's just a little bit too Jewish. And of
course i'm talking about Josh Paper in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 18 (01:51:01):
Right right, Yeah, And you know that's the thing is
that this story was about a survey of Democrat voters.
They're they're saying that they want new people that they
want fresh faces in the party. But but you know, again,
like I said, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 17 (01:51:18):
And I agree with you.

Speaker 18 (01:51:20):
I think Jos Shapiro is probably I don't know that
much about him, but he doesn't strike me as being
a socialist, and that that he may just be the
kind of of and I say this maybe for lack
of a better word that I can think of, he
may be the the the centrist that that they need.

(01:51:43):
But again, yeah, like you said, the the Hamas wing
of the party, the Telibs and the Omars and and
their buddies, would have no part of him because he's Jewish.

Speaker 9 (01:51:53):
Yeah, well you mentioned Nelhanno Omar. Why haven't we deported
her yet?

Speaker 18 (01:52:00):
God, I know, I mean, if America is so bad,
why what is she still doing here? Well, we know
what she's still doing here. But you know, if it's
so bad, you have the freedom in America to leave.

Speaker 9 (01:52:15):
So yeah, I mean, I know, technically she's a naturalized
citizen at this point, but for crying out loud some
of these things, it's so ridiculous. Again, the squatter is
the squad is desperate for attention at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:52:31):
They're really really separated, right.

Speaker 18 (01:52:34):
Well, I'll tell you a funny story real quick. I
was I was looking for oh I did. I did
a story earlier this week about terrorists possibly using AI
powered vehicles like the Waymos in California to use in
terroristic ways. And I was looking in our photo library
for a picture to go with with my peace, and

(01:52:56):
so I typed in in the search box. I typed
in terrorists and hit the search button and a picture
of the squad came up.

Speaker 4 (01:53:05):
Well, what do you know, AI? That's working perfectly?

Speaker 6 (01:53:09):
It is?

Speaker 17 (01:53:10):
It is?

Speaker 9 (01:53:10):
Yeah, yeah, Well, Becky, I hate too, but we are
already out of time.

Speaker 4 (01:53:16):
It's been great talking to you again.

Speaker 9 (01:53:18):
I appreciate you taking this valuable time away from all
the things that you've got going on.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
One more time, real quick.

Speaker 9 (01:53:27):
Please remind everybody where they can find your work and
where they can find you.

Speaker 18 (01:53:33):
You can find me on Facebook at Becky Noble, and
on x at Becky Noble sixty five, and of course
at RedState dot com. And I would be remiss if
I did not give a shout out to all of
the amazing, talented, wonderful people that I work with. I
don't know what I'd do without them. And you can

(01:53:53):
also find me on substack at Gumshoe Politics dot substack
dot com and my mini your face in your Face
is also there on my substack page as well.

Speaker 9 (01:54:06):
Yeah, fantastic stuff. As always, Becky, thank you so much
God to speak to you, and I look forward to
getting together with you and continuing the conversation.

Speaker 19 (01:54:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 18 (01:54:17):
It's always fun to be on with you. Tim, Thanks
so much.

Speaker 9 (01:54:20):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, Miss Becky Noble. All right,
So that brings us to the close of today's broadcast.
You're about to go into a weekend where who knows
what's gonna happen. That's the thing we don't know. Will
Oran finally surrender. I wouldn't count on it. Will the

(01:54:42):
iatola be suddenly disappeared, that's a possibility. Will Donald Trump
drop it? B Why do I feel like I'm doing
the intro to soap? Why do I feel like that
only listeners of this show really know what soap even is?
When I say that, any thank you so much for
being here. Uh, keep your head on a on a

(01:55:04):
swivel out there. Uh, situational awareness. That's the difference between
life and death. And remember, don't take my word for anything.
You've heard me say tonight. But please, don't listen to
Chuck Schumer, don't listen to AOC. Don't take their word
at base value. Either, be prepared to put in some effort,
do some research, and most importantly, use your brain if

(01:55:26):
you really want to tap into the truth. Good Night,
everybody with the.

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