Happy Birthday America 2025 Roundtable

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 4 (01:44):
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be brow by the ten you.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
When alright, ladies and gentlemen, you see me very small
squared at the moment, because I'm about to bring on
multiple guests, and we'll see if I can't do something
a little bit better than that. For the time being,
ladies and gentlemen, welcome to today's Happy Birthday America edition
twenty twenty five of Tap into the Truth live stream

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here on Rumble. I got a couple more folks that
I will imagine will be joining us here in a
short while. But when you snooze, you lose and you
get left behind. So, ladies and gentlemen, first welcome the musician, historian, philosopher,
and of course, the publisher of Patriot Music dot Com,

(03:22):
mister Matt Fitzgibbons. A Matt, how are you today.

Speaker 9 (03:25):
Hey, good evening, Tim, Good evening, Becky. And by the way, Tim,
there's nothing square about you at all.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
Well, thank you for that, although sometimes I think very differently. Also,
as Matt'll already alluded to one of my favorite journalists
period and certainly my favorite journalists at Red State, having
nothing at all to do with the fact that she
constantly will spend time talking to me and my audience.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome miss Becky, Noble Becky. How

(03:55):
are you this fine fine Independence day eve?

Speaker 10 (03:59):
I'm good, Tim, Thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Hi, Matt, how are you very well? Very well? Nice
to see you.

Speaker 11 (04:05):
You doo.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
All right, Well, we're going to go ahead and start
the conversation. George Sensor should be joining us here in
a bit, and Amy Hollam is also scheduled to join. However,
I haven't been able to get a hold of Amy,
so I've got somebody else trying to do that on
my behalf at this very moment. And we'll see George

(04:28):
as soon as he can get things squared away. But
we'll go ahead and get started right off the bat.
I kind of thought we would do a far less
formal version of what we normally do here, not that
we've ever been overly formal to begin with, but I
want to talk a little bit about what you guys
think of as reasons to be proud to be American,

(04:50):
and you'll have opportunities to discuss that as we go on.
But I did want to go over some of the
topics of today, and before we jump into those, I
wanted to give a little time for our other guests
to join us, and if they join us, and we'll
see what happens. But in the meanwhile, I wanted to
start with Becky in this particular situation. Of course, for

(05:14):
those of you watching or listening, as the case may be,
as tonight's show is also being recorded to be aired
tomorrow in lieu of our normal Friday live show, although
I will be joining Ron Edwards live on his show tomorrow.
So you know, I'm kind of leaving my listeners behind
to go hobnob with the Bridge and famous over at

(05:36):
the Edward Show, but I wanted to kind of timpt it.
So for those of you that are watching and listening,
I haven't really told the gang here that this was
part of today's assignment, so they're going to be I'm
stalling right now to give them some time to think
about it. They're gonna be coming up with this pretty
much on the flies, but we'll start with Becky. And Becky,

(05:58):
you know, we just recently all this polling data come
out that suggested that pride and being an American is
at an all time low, not surprisingly strongly led by
the Democrats, but beyond that, independence and folks that are
only slightly right of centers seem to be following in

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larger numbers than usual as well. So in your own words,
why are they wrong, Becky? What do we have to
be proud of to be Americans?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
For?

Speaker 10 (06:32):
Well, first of all, I kind of questioned that poll
because a couple of weeks ago, I wrote about another
poll that said exactly the opposite, that Donald Trump's presidency
has made them more patriotic. So, and I forgive me,
I don't remember. I believe it was an IPSOS poll.

(06:55):
But so, first of all, I would question that that
the whole po you know, in and of itself. But
you know, I think we can expect that now from
the Democrats. I mean, they're just I think a perfect
example of where their patriotism has gone is in their

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mayoral candidate in New York. I mean, it's it's it's
a perfect illustration of where they're at now. And I
think that if there is any if there, if there
are any people who are not feeling patriotic, if they
that they're not proud to be Americans, it's younger people.
And I was just watching something on TV just a

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few minutes ago, and I said to my husband, the
reason for that is is very very obvious, and that
is the American education system. None of these that's we've
got to be on at least our second generation of
kids who are being taught that that they shouldn't be
proud to be an American. That that you know, they're
getting a laundry list of all the things that are

(07:59):
wrong with American is why you shouldn't be proud to
be an American. So is it any surprise any wonder
why at least younger people would have that feeling. Now,
I'm not saying it's it's just younger people. I mean,
I'm sure there's plenty of older people do. But that
didn't surprise as far as younger people. That didn't surprise
me in the least.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Okay, but why are they wrong, Vicky? Why should they
be proud to be American?

Speaker 10 (08:25):
In your opinion, because there's no place else you know
that if you look, if you look at younger people,
what are they into now? They're resisting and they're protesting,
and they're doing all those things. Where else on the
face of the planet would they be freely allowed to
do those things? Nowhere else? Maybe maybe in Europe, maybe
some places in Asia, but for the most part, nowhere else.

(08:47):
And all of the things that they're resisting and they're protesting,
they they have the right to those things. They have
the privilege of those things because they're Americans, and they
don't the fact that they can't connect the dots is
mind blowing. But yeah, that's that's that's a reason right there,

(09:09):
to be able to express yourself and say what you
think and disagree with other people and have those people
disagree with you and and you know, discuss the issues
and debate them. Not that we do that at all anymore,
but yeah, that's that is that's the beauty. That's the
gift of being an American.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
All right, Matt, I'll let you uh springboard in here.
Of course, you're free to come in about the poll
as well, and then your thoughts on why they're wrong.

Speaker 9 (09:44):
Well, I'll start with the concept of patriotism itself, you know,
without getting into too many of the details about me.
You've heard this before, but some of your listeners and
viewers may not have. But I was teaching multinational groups
back in the nineteen nineties and simultaneously reading constantly on
American history to fill in all of my gaps.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
And this is the reason that I founded patriot music
dot Com.

Speaker 9 (10:09):
Because I realized with all of these multinational groups that
there was something unique about the United States. And if
we go back in time, specifically two hundred and fifty
years ago to today, what we'll see is that the
British colonists, although proud of being British citizens, they held

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to these concepts of natural rights from John Locke and
you know, the notions of capitalism with John Smith, for example.
And by the time that the Declaration of Independence was signed,
there was still a there was already a huge swath
of Americans who believed in these concepts.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
So elsewhere in the world, you.

Speaker 9 (10:54):
Know, most dictionaries will define patriotism as a zealous love
of one's country. I would call that nationalism. In the
United States, though, in our history, patriotism is a dedication
to our founding principles. It isn't to our government, and
it isn't per se to our country. It's more to
these philosophical principles. That's what makes an American. Those who

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are educated, those who are paying taxes and have read,
you know, more than ten books in their lives that
aren't written by communists, they know how unique this American
experience is. Now their notion of patriotism is going to
be very, very different from what someone for example, you know,
who got a Latino studies degree out of a Harvard

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in the last five years, is going to think. So
in terms of patriotism. I would say that slowly, because
of Donald Trump's presidency and because of some of the
most recent issues, people have taken more of an interest
in the pride of being American. And you see this
kind of in waves over the course of history. Obama

(12:05):
and then Biden's presidencies were such disasters that recently people
are thinking about, you know, what life was like and
what it could be like, kind of like that famous
ad that Reagan ran in nineteen seventy nine, ask yourself,
are you better off than you were four years ago?
And I think that's front and center on a lot

(12:26):
of people's minds. And again, I started Patriot music dot
com back and I started writing for it in two
thousand and five because I wanted to fill a void
with music that wasn't there in the public school systems,
particularly a lack of knowledge with civics and American history.
As to the poll I'm very, very skeptical when it

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comes to polls. You know, what kind of people do
you get when when they call it one o'clock on
a Wednesday afternoon, you know, to residential addresses, for example.
And then it depends on what's going on in the
news cycle. For example, if they had asked that question
a week after, you know, the most recent assassination attempt

(13:10):
on Donald Trump, it would have been very different. You know,
ask this question in a month from now, you're going
to get very different numbers. I'm encouraged though, when I
see large numbers of black Americans and Hispanics moving out
of the Democratic Party more towards the Republican Party. But
generally speaking, I'm not really worried about the poll I

(13:32):
think that or the polls I should say. I think
this is front and center on people's minds. Passing this
quote unquote big beautiful Bill the day before Independence Day
is key and it's going to start a lot of dialogue.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
So I won't dominate, though, I'll let George jump in here.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
All right, And the Big Beautiful Bill is one of
our next topics that's coming, by the way.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
So I figured it might be.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
Yeah, it's not surprising, but if you're to celebrate something
on Independence Day eve, I think that might fall into
the category depending on who you are. Unless you're Thomas Massey,
you might not be celebrating, or maybe Elon Musk, you
know these guys. Yeah, all right, George late to the party,
but always glad to have you here. Ladies and gentlemen,

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the host of Firefox News Online. They give me found
right here on Rumble on the regular Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays,
most of the time, with bonus broadcasts when news dictates,
or occasionally just bonus content on the weekends for the
fun of it. Ladies and gentlemen, mister Georgeton's or George,

(14:42):
how are you tonight? What's up?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
First? Well, I know the fourth of July is tomorrow,
so I want to get this out of the way
up front, because it is what I always say to people.
Have fun, have plenty of food, be around, plenty of
family and friends. But above all, remember that it's not
about the hot dogs, the hamburgers, the salads, the family,
the friends. It's about celebrating the birth of a nation. Okay.

(15:12):
One of the one of the problems that with these
polls that I have is when it comes to presidential elections,
because I can you can never trust them when it
comes to a poll that's so very specific. However, you
have to start wondering, Okay, why are you asking about

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my patriotism? I was born in a country where you
can believe as you as you wish, live as you wish, work,
raise a family as you wish. As long as you're
not doing something stupid, you've got all the all the
freedom in the world to be.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
And it's like that.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's like that saying I believe it was shake to
be or not to be? That is the question. Well,
the answer is simple. I was raised to believe that
America is the most powerful, the most wonderful nation on
the planet that whereever I go, yes, there's going to

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be problems. But where else on the planet can you
be where you don't have to worry about being shot
in front of a firing squad or having the state
tell you how much money you're allowed to have, how

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many children you can have in your family. Think about that.
There are countries where you are limited to having only
one child, where you have to work for the state.
You can work for no one else else. Here we

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don't have those issues. But we do have Democrats and Republicans,
independence and right to lifers and people who are members
of I don't know if this is actually a party.
I keep saying it. My rents too damn high party member. Okay,

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but America is what we believe in here it is,
it's not what it's not what we believe it to
be just on paper. The founding fathers, you know, those
are smart ole guys. They were smart old guys. They
didn't just want to separate from England. They didn't want

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to just separate from the British Crown. They wanted to
start a country off on the right foot, giving people
the free eat them that Britain didn't give us. Under
King George. Do I love my country absolutely. I served

(18:11):
my country in a state defense forts the New York
Guard during the worst time in our history since Pearl Harbor,
and that was September eleven, two thousand and one. And
I I was willing to die for my country, for

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the people in this country, whether I knew them or not.
And I didn't carry a weapon. The only thing I
had was a mirror device to look underneath the car
or truck or van or whatever, a flashlight to examine
the under the side of the hood, the engine compartment,

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the back of the vehicle, the inside of the vehicle,
you know, a whole bit, and a two way radio.
If the enemy had approached to my position, I would
have fought hand to hand, I would have taken as
many of them as I could before they took me,
or I would have died instantly. But the fact of

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the matter is I was willing to die for this country.
I was willing to sacrifice all and I didn't give
a damn what anyone thought they didn't like how I
felt about this country or the people in it. Guess
what I got news for you. They can go bleep
themselves as far as i'm Does that answer your question

(19:49):
sufficiently there? Mister?

Speaker 6 (19:52):
You know, I was waiting for some point to get
some level of sincerity, maybe a moment where you tell
this how you're really felt. We're gonna have to work
on your emoting, George.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
No, I was never very good at that. But that's okay. Hey, listen,
It's like a friend of mine once said, I'm a
work in progress.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Well, I have one quick comment about this poll and
the data supposedly in it before we move on to
the next topic, and that is it's not surprising that
if you have a high return and you break it
down into people that self identify as Democrats, that not
very many of these folks feel proud to be an American.

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A lot of them, unfortunately, are only quasi proud when
they're in charge, when they're getting to make the decisions.
And unfortunately, a lot of the folks that self identify
that answered in this poll are part of the group
that has been denied the opportunity to even the joys

(20:59):
of discovering what critical thinking is. So they're buying into
a lot of what the would be tear this down
just to tear down. George made a comment about those
smart old guys, and I'm thinking, that's what resistance looks like.
And these kids today have no idea what resistance really is.

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They're the folks that are walking around in the woods,
come upon a fence and decide to tear it down
because they have no idea why that fence was put
there in the first place. Lots of times fences are
there for a reason. With that being said, though, of course,
let's just move right along into the big, beautiful build.

(21:43):
It's going to be signed now by one orange man
who's bad kicker, a puppy's eater, a baby's climate arsonist,
Donald John Trump, that Donald as some still call him.
There's a lot of reasons on inciple to still not
be happy with this bill, but there's some important reasons

(22:05):
to feel at least accepting that this is certainly the
better alternative than to not pass it. Matt will start
with you this time, first of all, your thoughts on
the ability to still make this self imposed fourth of
July deadline and the almost feats of political magic to

(22:29):
have made it happen.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
Yeah, there's no question about that this was quintessential to
Donald Trump's game plan. I don't love this bill, I
really don't. I think that it's fiscally irresponsible. On the
other hand, you know, and I know some some individual
things in it that I don't like. But I will
say that this in my in my interpretation, has to

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be viewed as a as a strategic bill. In other words,
this this was necessary, even with all the bad things
in it, in order to affect the economy in time
for the midterm elections. This is where we can replace
some of the Democrats in the House and the Senate,
and then there's a larger majority and we could start
working on some of the problems with this bill and

(23:17):
some of the other things that.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Are left over.

Speaker 9 (23:19):
And for those who hate the bill because of the
sheer amount of money that it expands our debt. I
would remind you that even the Constitution itself was a compromise.
Our founding fathers were operating under the Articles of Confederation,
and they met for the Constitutional Convention under the explicit

(23:42):
instructions of fixing the Articles of Confederation, and instead they
closed the windows and drew the curtains, and they threw
it away, and they started with James Madison's Constitution as
a reference point. And a lot of the representatives walked
out and went home because that's what they were not
tasked to build a new form of government. So all government,

(24:05):
all bills are compromised. I don't love this, but I'm
very very happy about it as a first step because strategically,
it's one very big important thing in a series of
steps that Donald Trump leading the GOP needs to do
in order to save our republic not only from the

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most recent horrible administration, but from decades and decades and
decades of horrible administrations on both parts of the both
sides of the aisle, and also to address many important
things moving forward.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
So I'm happy about it, but I.

Speaker 9 (24:42):
Really hope that Republicans can go back and fix a
lot of the things that are wrong with it most,
particularly the amount of money that it expands in our debt.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
Okay, George, same scenario. What are your general feelings and
pros cons are you exuberantly happy with? And again, I'm
going to give all the props in the world. This
level of it was literally political magic, I think, given

(25:15):
the amount of folks that were on both sides of
the aisle that were so starchly opposed to at least
one or two aspects, although as Matt pointed out, and
I could certainly go a lot further. I think we
all could a thousand other things that are in this
really big, maybe not so beautiful, but we're going to

(25:37):
take it better than letting the Trump touch brakes just
evaporate this bill. Your general feelings on this magical political
ride we've been on for the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Well, Tim, I'm going to actually do something that my
mother taught me to do when I was very little,
and that's be a gentleman and let Becky go ahead
of me. So this way, you know, I can gather
my thoughts more properly. And besides, I would like to
hear her faults first.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
All right, Becky, I guess it's your turn.

Speaker 10 (26:16):
Well, yeah, I would. I would agree a little bit
with Matt and say that, you know, is this a
perfect bill.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
No, it's not.

Speaker 10 (26:28):
We're not going to get a perfect bill.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
No, not.

Speaker 10 (26:30):
Everybody's going to get what they want. But I think
that the most important thing about this was getting those
tax cuts made permanent, because if we didn't and those
Trump tax cuts from his first administration expired, people were
going to start seeing that round about the twenty twenty

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six mid term elections, and that would have been I
think it would have been devastating for Republicans because Democrats
would have been all over it. And I you know,
it's I know that that there is gonna be some
mechanisms to where I think that match just alluded to
that they will be able to go back and fix

(27:14):
some of the things. In fact, I heard, I guess
last night or this morning that there was gonna be
some legislation introduced to separately to uh get rid of
the Medicaid for illegal aliens. So yeah, a lot of
the things maybe that that did not make it into
the bill that people wanted are going to be taken

(27:36):
care of separately at a later date. But yeah, I
think the bottom line is that it's just it's it's
a win win for for the American people. And and yeah,
there's a lot of spending in there, and I get
you know, that's it's not an ideal situation. I'm not
especially wild about it either, but I think I think

(27:59):
ultimate there's probably more good than bad. Again, we have
we have the the mechanism to go back and and
tweak and and change and and get things, get rid
of things that we want to get rid of, and
add some things, do a little addition and subtraction. But

(28:20):
I think it's only gonna be it's gonna jump start
the economy. I think in ways that we've never seen.
I just think, bottom line, I think it's gonna be
just a good, all around good thing. Maybe maybe it's
gonna take a little while for it to to get
rolling all the way totally, but I think it's gonna

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be a good thing. And I think that people are
gonna gonna start to feel it, and and they're all
of the you know, yelling and screaming and gnashing of
teeth by the media and Democrats is just it's gonna
fall on.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
Deaf ears, all right, George, you want to take your
turn now or do you need to little more time?
Because I can make my comment.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
No, I think no. My mother would come back and
come back from the skies above with a cast iron
frying pan if I wasn't a gentleman. So I learned
my lesson very well.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Perhaps so George. But I could also make the point
that it's not very gentlemanly if you're skipping your turn
and keeping Becky from having enough time to fully formulate
what she would.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Like to, well, she could have passed.

Speaker 10 (29:32):
I am oh, no, I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
Go ahead, George, I'm just played.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I know. You know it's been said that, you know,
not everyone's going to get what they want in any bill,
not just the one big beautiful bill, which turned out
to be the one big beautiful, well almost beautiful bill,
because again a lot of horse trading when when the

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when legislation happens on Capitol Hill. We know that not
everyone's going to get what they want, but hopefully the
American people get what they need. And you know, I've
been in twelve step recovery for thirty one years and

(30:23):
it's a lesson that I learned early on, and it's
you get what you you get what you need, not
what you want, because if you always got what you want,
then what you really need when it comes along, comes
along too little, too late. America needs people to leave

(30:46):
by example, they always say. But you know what the
problem is the politicians on Capitol Hill, and I don't
care what party they're with, they often fall short of
the mark. And we saw that today for eight hours
with Hakim Jeffries sitting there on his soapbox preaching like

(31:07):
he was in a church. Filipbustering for eight hours is
not gonna help your cause. It's not gonna sway the
votes in your direction. If anything, it's gonna push people
further away and push the American people further away. This

(31:27):
bill has a few things in it that I'm not
too thrilled with. It has spent, It has spenditures that
will raise a raise a few eyebrows along the way,
But it also has things in there that needed needed
to be need to be brought up. Like Beckie said,
you know the tax cuts that the President Trump brought

(31:50):
in on his first term in office, they were set
to expire soon. Had those gone away, I guarantee you
the Democrats would have pounced on it like a like
a lion. They would not have hesitated five seconds, and
they would have put the entire blame on President Trump

(32:14):
and the Republican Party, and then the American people would
be right back to trusting the Democrats and voting for
a Democrat president and giving them control of the Senate
and the White House. Not just the White House, but
the Senate and the announced representatives too. The effects that

(32:35):
the Democrats brought up, people would die if they didn't
have their health care, and it would affect people's food
stamps and everything else. All of that nonsense was more
fear mongering and political theater than anything else. Because I

(32:57):
lost I lost count as to how many times was
Hakeem Jeffries stood there this morning and literally kept saying
talking about snap benefits and Medicaid. It got to the
point where it was so repetitive I was starting to
fall asleep. And in all honesty, that's why I didn't

(33:23):
get into politics after I attempted it once to become
a city council member. I'm glad that fell through like
like a ton of bricks, because I would suck as
a politician, because I would tell my own party where
they can go stuff it. I would take one look
at a bill and I'd go, are you for real?

(33:48):
Have you any idea what this is gonna cost the
American taxpayer. I'd throw it in the throw it behind me,
and go I think we can do better, people, and
if you can't do bad.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
Quit the job because you suck at it.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
But hey, that's just me. I'm you know, I'm I'm
I'm a big mouth with a microphone these days that
believes that you're not going to get what you want,
but you're going to get what you need. There are
backdoor deals that went on, okay, just to get the

(34:26):
procedural vote accomplished. I mean a five minute vote that
takes nine hours is that's not a five minute vote,
I'm sorry. A fifteen minute vote that goes forty five
minutes is not a fifteen minute vote. But you're going
to find out that there were some deals made eventually,

(34:50):
And that's the nature of the beast when it comes
to politics, when it comes to these bills. So at
the end of the day, am I happy with it?

Speaker 10 (35:01):
No?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Not not happy with it. But at the end of
the day, I have to come to the realization at
some point. Yeah, there's gonna be things in there that
I'm not happy with, but there's going to be more
things in there that are that I'm gonna be okay with.
That is going to let me sleep at night and

(35:25):
not dwell on what and on the Democrats succeeding had
they succeeded in their efforts. If the bill had failed,
we heard how it would be sixty eight percent increase
in the in the in the taxes, and the and
the debt ceiling and everything else.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Well, guess what.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
The best economists couldn't even come That weren't even on
that number. Some of them weren't even higher. The fact is,
if this had failed, the Democrats would would be gloating
from from one end of the the for one end

(36:10):
of the country to the next. They'd be saying, see,
we told you, and I'd be sitting here going I
think I better clam up before I say something kind.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
Yeah, it does seem a good time to do just that, George.
When it's time to break out the barf bag, we
obviously need to change direction.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Trust me, I have my industrial sized barf bag right here.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
You do so it comes before uh, you know, I
think the biggest issue, and some of the bigger points
that any one of us here would make in regards
to some of the flaws and the bill, a lot
of those kind of go in the direction of things

(37:01):
that there's just not an appetite for the majority of Americans.
Too many people who become too accustomed to getting their benefits.
Now they don't care about the other guy's benefits, but
don't do something that's going to negatively affect me. And
that's where the real problem with our current federal budget

(37:23):
really lies. It is the desperate need to restructure our
benefits package that's been allowed to grow out of control,
has been allowed to move in directions now I very unpopularly,
I might add, for a very long time, have mentioned
that when you get into even just the realm of

(37:45):
social security, you're in a place where the federal government
ought not to be. There's no constitutional authority granting it.
They just thought it'd be a good idea one time,
and nobody said no. Although the big perfect lock box
has never been locked, no politicians ever saw a stack
of money laying to the side and thought, gee, we

(38:06):
really should just save that to give back to the people.
Now they're constantly thinking how do I buy more votes?
But the downside here as well is within the Republican
Party itself, there are so few fiscal conservatives left. There
are some folks that recently have tried to reclaim the

(38:26):
title of fiscal hawks, But where were they fifteen years ago,
ten years ago, five years ago? Where were they during Trump?
One point?

Speaker 10 (38:35):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (38:35):
And I'm one of the people that I had a
few conversations with some folks that worked inside that administration,
and they kept promising, if the first term is all
about getting the tax situation straight so that we can
ignite the business and get the economy booming, and then

(38:58):
we'll work on cutting spending once people realize how good
it can be. And there's a certain logic to that.
If the economy's going well enough that all boats are
being raised, then it doesn't hurt as much when you
take the other steps that are necessary to end some
of the government spending. But if all you're going to

(39:18):
do is trim around the edges, then that's all you're
ever going to do, is you're just trimming. And when
you have a budget that's growing as quickly as hours does,
if you're just trimming around the edges. It goes back
to that budgetary I just call it a lie, but

(39:40):
it's a trick where they come back and say, well,
we just cut three million dollars of spending, even though
we're actually spending five million more than what the baseline
said before. It's three million less than what we originally
planned on raising it. That's not really a cut, but
that's the game they play. And until the American people
get serious about holding the federal government accountable for what

(40:04):
it is they're looking to do, we're going to be
in the same situation again a few years down the road.
Trump doesn't get another term after this one. He's got
to do the best that he can with this. I
think locking these tax rates in is really the big
thing that this bill does, more so than anything else,
and it will open the economy up, just like Becky said,

(40:27):
because again, businesses are going to have a better idea
of how to plan moving forward. And with the terriff
Wars apparently winding down getting close to an end, that
level of uncertainty is going to be going away soon too.
I think there's going to be a real opportunity to
get the economy booming. But a booming economy is only

(40:49):
one part of the equation. Until the American people get
serious about the other part of it, we're going to
continue to be kind of in this area where Democrats
are going to have a fertile ground where they're going
to be able to disrupt and then fingerpoint and claim
it was the other guy all along. I think that's

(41:10):
pretty much what we're going to see from the mini way.

Speaker 9 (41:13):
Can I add something to this? Sure, there's a very
positive side to this as well that I think that
we should focus on. And all three of you are
alluding to these things, but there are a lot of
big wins in this bill too. You know, the historic
tax relief for example, as George was talking about the

(41:33):
explosive job growth that's predicted, We've already seen some positive indicators.
You've got energy independence, This is really key. We had
it under Trump's first term, and we know we can
get it again, getting the border under control, for example,
building that wall, requiring welfare recipients to work for example,

(41:55):
national security, tim like you said, the trade deals. There
are so many positive things about this. Not that I'm
changing my answer, but I want to make sure that
for anyone listening or watching, I definitely recognize that there
are some really key things in this, not to mention
the fact that if it hadn't passed, some really bad

(42:16):
things would happen.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. I think that's kind of where
we're at. I was saying countless times going into this
that we were literally looking at the battle between standing
on a principle and being pragmatic. And there comes a
time in politics where you have to take the wins

(42:41):
you can get that you have to be pragmatic. And again,
as Becky pointed out, and then George said the same,
get this w in the books, and then start working
on trying to get the next win. It's kind of
using the technique that the Democrats used to use against
Conservatives all the time. We all know the model. Uh,

(43:01):
the conservatives started way over here on the right, the
the so called progressive all the way over on the left.
They demand compromise, the conservatives to meet him in the middle,
and then high fives for the conservatives. Idea, Okay, we've
found a compromise we can live with immediately. The so
called progressives have gone twice as far to the left

(43:23):
as they were to start with, and they're demanding the
next compromise.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
That's like haling in Tijuana.

Speaker 10 (43:32):
Rush Us rush Limbaugh used to describe it as as
when when a compromise for Democrats is when Republicans cave.

Speaker 6 (43:43):
And leave it to rush to get it very succinctly
so that even the folks and Leo Rendrio Linda can
get it.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
There's there's also transitional friction.

Speaker 9 (43:54):
It's a term I learned recently which basically means, even
though many of these things are kind of objectively the
picture positive, a lot of maybe not tremendous amounts of people,
but some people are going to be hurt doing this
just because business as usual has changed. So there is
going to be a little bit of negativity. And like
you said, you know it's a compromise, not everyone's going

(44:15):
to be happy.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
I think Randy in the chat room made a really
good point too, something that kind of stumbled upon accidentally
on the radio show last time Ron Edwards was on
with me, and that is back one of the most
powerful things that Donald Trump has done through his presidency
beyond having this magical power to be able to get

(44:41):
the evil actors within our government to reveal themselves, but
he's also brought forth this idea that the middle class
can be a thing in the country again. And when
there is a growing and successful middle class, most of
what the Democrats are selling now just doesn't work. The

(45:04):
class warfare just isn't particularly effective when you can easily demonstrate,
especially to the folks right around those edges, that class
mobility is a real thing. You don't have to choose
to live in the third world when you can be
part of the America, as she was founded with the

(45:27):
idea that you're not stuck or you start.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 10 (45:37):
Right, And I think I think eventually, uh, you know,
a big beautiful bill or not. When you look at
places like New York and California and the way they're
running things and the way that that the trajectory of
those states is going, you are going to end up uh.
And I maybe I would even throw Illinois in the

(45:59):
mix too. You're gonna end up with the really rich
and the really poor, and there's not going to be
any in between. There's not going to be a middle class.
And at that point, I think the really rich have
there are going to be the ones obviously who have
the means to get out, and what are you left with?
You're you're you're left with the third world. You're left

(46:20):
with poor people who don't have the resources to leave,
and that's that's just going to be worse for them,
you know.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
But that that's.

Speaker 10 (46:31):
That to me, that that is guaranteed collapse. And you
know what, what what happens after that is anybody's guests.
You know, I'm sure they would expect the federal government
to come in and bail them out.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
But you know, well, you're right, but again, uh, the
effort for a controlled collapse is kind of the idea
for some of these folks. Yes, there there is a
fair number of people who believe they're going to be
at the top of the pile at the end of it,
and they're more than happy to to follow Cloward and

(47:03):
pibbn's idea of destroying us from within. And my haven't
we've done a fantastic job of that the course of
the last decade and a half, if not two decades.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
I think at the end of the day, you know what,
what we see happening in in d C also happens
on the local level, at the state level, the county, city, town,
and so forth. It's that it's that it's that infamous statement,

(47:38):
that infamous phrase, the trickle down effect, and and you know, uh.
Being being here in New York, I know all too
well the struggles that that that senior citizens and those

(47:58):
with disabilities face because cause I fall into both categories. Sadly, Okay,
I have physical limitations that literally make it next to
impossible to do even the simplest tasks. Sometimes I'll sit
here at in my studio and I'll be doing my
podcast and my right hand will start tremoring to the

(48:19):
point where I can't even control the mouse. I'll go
to walk down the hall to get a cup of coffee,
and my legs will tremor right out from under me.
I literally have to walk around. I don't have it here.
I should have grabbed it when I before I came over.
But I literally have to have a cane standing by

(48:40):
just to walk with some stability and some measure of
feeling safe. And at sixty two years of age, I'm
not gonna sit idly by and do nothing while my
doctors won't let me go back to work because of
the limitations I have. At the same time, I have
to I have to respect my limitations. But if the

(49:03):
politicians whatever side of the isle it is decided to
gut medicate gut food stamps. My social security wouldn't take
me very far. It barely takes me far as it is,
so I have to live month to month, hand to mouth.

(49:30):
I don't like it. I wish I could go back
to work because I used to love getting up in
the morning and going to work. Actually, I'm actually one
of the few people that probably enjoyed going to work more. Then,
say these youngs. Excuse me for saying it like this,
but these young snot nose wet behind the ears, little

(49:50):
brats that have no clue except for how to play
a video game, and think that a video game is
going to make it all work in the end. Life
is not a video game, trust me.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
However, there does seem to be a small number of
them that can make a living by streaming them playing it.
And yet here we are, George barely keeping the lights
turned on to do the same thing. I think the
amount of profitability is directly inverse to the importance of

(50:27):
the topic in which you stream. I'm convinced of that
the thing.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
There's a Star Trek reference in there somewhere. I just
haven't thought of it yet.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
I'm sure we could probably find one, but at this
point where shoe trying to shoehorn it in, so we'll
find it easier when later, George, we of course would
be remiss. We've been dancing around it. We've kind of
mentioned it, and we do need to take a very
very short break at the top of the hour so

(51:01):
that things are a little easier for Doug as he
is recording tonight and he needs a good place to
start to cut and edit for our radio airplay later.
But I don't want to get too far into it
yet given the little time, so we'll jump headlong coming.
But it would appear that a lot of what we've

(51:25):
already discussed kind of circles back around this current left
wing fetishation of the third world. I mean, we saw
it trickling in in San Francisco for the last decade.
We've seen it in Los Angeles for probably just as long.

(51:46):
Part of this, of course, has to do with their
unwillingness to enforce a border, but beyond that, their unwillingness
to enforce simple city ordinances that keep people off the streets.
You know, if I can can in the doorway of
a CVS why am I surprised or angry that after

(52:07):
six months they decide they're closing their doors. Right, they're
trying to create a situation that the United States was
never intended to be. We now have seen New York
fully embrace this idea through their Democratic nominee for mayor.
We have a young man who's very much born in privilege,

(52:30):
who's been in the United States since he was seven
years old, who really does not know much about this
third world he claims to embrace, to understand, to be
part of. He knows how to process and to project
an image. He learned that from his mother because she's
some big time Hollywood blah blah. It's okay, great for you.

(52:54):
I'm glad you're in the yards and it can communicate
and knows how to package your message. But in the process,
there's so many other moving parts here that I would
like to get into here in just a few minutes.
In regards to the fact that when you have ranked
choice elections, you're supposed to get to a certain level. Now,

(53:19):
after they did all the work with the ranked choice,
this guy ends up far and away being the top choice.
But in the initial head to head with all the
other candidates, he didn't get close to a majority. If
he had been in a simple head to head, maybe
wouldn't have been the Democratic nominee coming in. But whether

(53:41):
that's the case or not, he's still very much where
the younger parts of the party seemed to be headed,
much like Becky already pointed out. So while we're kind
of keeping those things in mind, my question, I guess
for this side of the hour, while we have a
very little time and kind of jump around, is this

(54:03):
actually indicative of where the party is going? And is
this the final signs of the final stages of the
modern Democratic Party? Are they about to go belly up
and something else take its place? And we'll start with Becky.

Speaker 10 (54:22):
Well, I don't see him course correcting anytime soon. I mean,
they're not. They're doubling and tripling and quadrupling down on
everything that that led them to resounding defeat last November.
And you know, I'm whenever the subject comes up, I
like to refer to something one of my co workers,

(54:43):
Ward Clark, mentioned one time. This was I'll tell a
real quick story. When we were at Seapack earlier this
year and we were kind of kind of batting around
this this subject in a way. But basically what he
said is that he thinks eventually the Democrat Party is
going to become kind of a regional You're going to
see the far left of the of what the remnants

(55:07):
of the Democrat Party. You're going to see it in
places like New York and LA and Chicago and places
like that. And and there may very well be something
else spring up, you know, in its place.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (55:19):
You know, it could be for the simple fact that
people are going to say, hey, we're tired of losing elections.
You know, who knows how that's going to come about.
But but you know, I see I see little bits
and pieces of that all the time.

Speaker 9 (55:32):
Okay, Matt, Well, I mean this is I look at
it as a positive thing because theologically, this guy in
New York and the Democratic Party in general, what they
believe is an exact opposition to what this Republic stands for.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
And I would go even further. This is just me.

Speaker 9 (55:53):
I think that anybody can run, but I don't think
that these kinds of people should be allowed to assume office.
And the reason I say that is because they have
to take an oath to support and defend the Constitution
against all enemies, foreign and domestic. A communist can't do that.
A socialist can't do that. So let him run, let
them win, and then they shouldn't be able to assume office.

(56:13):
But in terms of this particular bonehead, I mean, what
other boneheads was he running against? Look at the pool
of people Cuomo, you know, the current mayor Eric Adams.
I mean, you know, this is kind of like taking
the cover off a septic tank. You know, there's not
a whole lot of positive going on in there. But

(56:33):
I would also add, you know, as Reagan famously said,
you know, it's not like he doesn't know anything.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
It's just that so much of what he knows is wrong, right, George.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Well, Becky and Matt kind of took the words out
of my mouth in a way because it's like, wow,
but here's here's here's the thing. The people that voted
in the primary to make him the Democrat nominee are

(57:07):
not the entirety of New York City.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
But sadly, if his message resonates with enough people, if
they buy into his bs long enough, then he could
potentially become the mayor of New York City down the road, However,
I will point out there is no margin for error here.

(57:37):
If there was ever a time for people to wake
up and see the reality that's before them, it is now.
I live eighty miles north of New York City. I
live in the Hudson Valley, so I'm not saddled with
that basket of bs. But if it can start there,

(58:00):
it can start infecting other places in the state of
New York, and that's what worries me.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
All right, let's let's take a quick break. We're there
for dougs. In fact, he sent me a message now
time to bass down to bas So let's just have
a moment of sin. Oh, I'm going to have a
little more fun tonight home. All right, dog, it looks

(58:29):
like you will just have to edit that part of
the audio. All right now, it is your thought, George.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
That's insane. They do that in communist countries. Okay. He
is talking about taking the Metropolitan Transportation Authority and turning
it into a free ride. Let me just say for
the record, there's a bus service up here. It's run

(58:57):
by the county. They get federal money to keep operating.
There are times when the equipment for the coin box
don't work and you end up getting a free ride. Well,
what happens with that free ride? Okay, let's say he
becomes the mayor, be successful that free ride. Somebody's got

(59:20):
to pay for it. So he's gonna put the bite
on all the billionaires and the business owners. And what's
gonna happen there, Well, all these business owners are going
to say uh and start leaving in droves, And in fact,
they've already started leaving ahead of the possibility of him winning.

(59:41):
And that's the frightening aspect of it. Small businesses will
go out of business in a heartbeat. The old mom
and pop grocery store will be gone, and the government
runs stores. Yeah, think communist breadlines. Now we're talking serious problems.

(01:00:04):
So will he actually become the mayor? Doubtful. I'll tell
you why. Because he's anti Jewish, anti American, anti Israel.
He is anti everything. Not to put a religious twist
on it, but if I were to call it, if
I were to call a spade a spade and the
shovel of shovel, there are those wh would consider him

(01:00:27):
to be the Antichrist. So yeah, not gonna happen. Is
Eric Adams of Beta Roses, no Is Andrew Cuomo any better?

Speaker 6 (01:00:38):
God No, But all right, Georgia, I've just received a
letter from the Hillary Clinton legal team. The man's used
to take her name out of your mouth no more
mentioning that the anti christ Tonight. This is Tim tap,

(01:01:04):
host of Tapping to the Truth that you can hear
every Friday night from seven to nine pm Eastern on
the k Star Talk Radio network, Liberty Talk FM, and
the Vera Networks. I didn't say we're going to abide
by it, just saying that I just a season desist order.

(01:01:26):
This is me saying that you don't. I can't read
the print going into the Independence Holiday weekend. I am
in no way filling suicidal. So if something bad happens, yeah,
I think you guys are all making extremely valid points.

(01:01:47):
But the problem is everything that you pointed out that
Mandamie is anti the majority of the Democratic Party currently
sets as being anti. Also, there there is a huge
Jewish population within New York City compared to what we
see anywhere else in the country, and yet where they

(01:02:12):
used to be basically wooed by the Democratic Party because
that was one of the best ways to win several
of the larger districts. Now they're an afterthought. There are
a lot like black Americans in this country. They're expected
to stay on the plantation vote for us. Like we
told you, don't go look in at Donald Trump and

(01:02:34):
how his stuff might help you. You do what we say,
because in the immortal words of the great Democrat leader,
if you're voting for Donald Trump, you ain't black. And yes,
it's said, but Joe Biden is a great Democratic leader
under the current crop of people. Wait, I just got

(01:02:57):
something else from Hillary. Never mind, I think though, that
he appeals to something that I think is very American. Actually,
he appeals to this idea of something that is outside
that is not the norm, that will be responsive to,

(01:03:19):
something that the current government isn't responsive to. The problem
is the way he wants to go about it is
very very much not American. As Matt pointed out, there
are certain folks that while they should be allowed to
run all day, every day and twice on Sundays, if
that's what they want to do, I know Muslims don't
particularly think Sundays any more holy than any other day.

(01:03:42):
So he might decide to run three times on a Sunday,
But if you can't honor the oath that you take
to hold that office, you shouldn't be allowed to hold it.
And by that same standards, we've got what about three
hundred four hundred people currently holding an office of some

(01:04:03):
kind at the federal level that probably should be evicted
from that office as well. A fairly good number of
them they just don't take this oath of office seriously anymore,
or I think at the time of the founding, not
only would that be an impeachable events that might be
elevated to the level of criminality in the mindsets then,

(01:04:26):
whereas now it's like, oh, you're still doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:04:32):
On the other hand as well, I would add that,
you know, our republic is a great experiment, and one
of the reasons we have the ninth and tenth Amendments
are so that the majority of the powers are left
on the state level or even locally within the states.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
So you know, if one state is looking at.

Speaker 9 (01:04:51):
A particular way of how they can solve a problem, right,
the theory goes that they're supposed to be able to
look at forty nine examples to determine what the best
way is to go. So from a historical perspective, Probably
because I don't live in New York City.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
I kind of don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Let him now, let.

Speaker 9 (01:05:09):
Them, because then the rest of the country will learn,
you know that one generation will learn that. This is
why this is asinine, this is why you know, everybody
else around you has said that you were more on
for voting for this person or anyone like him. So
if they do, and you know, he will assume office,
I've got that, you know, as a theoretical concept, that

(01:05:30):
he shouldn't be allowed to assume office, but he will
if he wins. And you know, hey, the glass is
three quarters full in my opinion. Let him, Let him
run New York into the ground. The rest of the country,
maybe some of it will wake up.

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:05:44):
The only problem there, Matt, is the fact that we're
not that far removed from de Baggio, who did his
part to try and run it into the ground. He
was just wasn't quite as open about it. But almost
every policy that has been put forth by this individual,

(01:06:06):
almost every policy is something that actually has been tried before.
And Donnie is talking about rent control, he's talking about breadlines,
he's talking about all these different things that there is
a long extended and well known history. We should have
learned from it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
We should have learned from LBJ for that argument.

Speaker 9 (01:06:30):
You know, the Great Welfare Society, the Great Society that
was a massive failure nationally and historically, and they didn't
learn from that, right.

Speaker 6 (01:06:42):
Right, And that is my only calendar to your point.
But yeah, we returned back to our current deputy director
of the FBI, back when he was running one of
the largest audiences on this particular platform as a commentator.
He used to say quite frequently when it comes to

(01:07:03):
New York, they'll fix things when it gets bad enough.
My question, when is that bad enough? And if it is,
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Speaker 7 (01:08:02):
Happy Independence Day. I hope that everybody has.

Speaker 12 (01:08:05):
Their fireworks off up place and their grills ready and
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Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
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Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
Excuse me, all right, Okay, while we're talking about Zoron Mandami,
something interesting kind of came across my desk today. Other
than the fact, of course that he is a open socialist,

(01:08:38):
an open communist, that he's proud of these things, and
yet certain other members of the Democratic Party are trying
to pretend like he isn't. Evidently he got into Columbia
University under fraudulent means. He checked the African American box

(01:09:01):
in addition to the Asian box application. Now, I've been
pointing out from the beginning that this guy does not
identify as an American. He doesn't really think of himself
that way. So what qualifies you to run the quintessential
American city in New York if you don't even think

(01:09:22):
of yourself as American? But if much like a certain
previous resident of sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue by the name
of mister Oroq who sang Ala wak Bar Obama, if

(01:09:46):
you can't be honest in your college applications, and then
you can't be honest about your time in college. What
else are you willing to lie, cheat and steal about?
And why should you be trusted with any responsibility from
a number of people, even if you were just taking

(01:10:06):
over the office of dogcatcher here in the lovely, lovely
East Tennessee County of Rome. Who we trust you? And
I'll let any start with this since she is just
now joining us. But why would somebody be open to

(01:10:27):
this being your mayor if you can't even tell the
truths trying to get into college?

Speaker 12 (01:10:35):
Well, you don't really want to know my opinion on that, Tim,
because I think they placed people in the power position
to cover up their own personal agendas. I don't think
it's the people really voting for them and putting them
into place. It's we really don't have a choice. It's

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the people who they're replacing, like for.

Speaker 7 (01:11:00):
Fens, like Como.

Speaker 12 (01:11:01):
Right, Como got discharge, then his brother stepped into power.
Then everybody voted for him, and now he's the.

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
New governor of New York. So it went from one
person to another.

Speaker 12 (01:11:17):
They find these people that want to supply a specific agenda.
They want the Islamic groups into place, they want the
illegal immigration in there so they could cause disruption and
not only get extra state and government funds and federal

(01:11:38):
benefits on top of it, but they're also looking for
different avenues to cause mayhem and destruction for that Trump
administration in order to find ways to kick him out
and also impeach him. So that's kind of my viewpoint
on that whole Mayor situation and how they're even starting

(01:12:05):
the impeachment process right now and starting to get him removed.

Speaker 7 (01:12:11):
That's my personal opinion on that.

Speaker 13 (01:12:15):
All right, Becky, your thoughts, Well, you know, I think
maybe one of the most interesting aspects of how he
became the nominee are are the people who voted for him.

Speaker 10 (01:12:31):
And yeah, he appeals to a lot of young people,
like I said before, young people who have not been
taught what socialism and communism is, so they they think
it's this wonderful utopia where everyone is equal and everybody
gets free stuff and everything's great. But the other but
the other group of people that actually voted for him

(01:12:52):
and to where he became the nominee were rich white liberals,
and those are the people who are are actually kind
of like him. They live in their own little bubble,
and you know, they're not gonna have to stand in
a breadline, or they're not gonna have to, uh, you know,
live in public housing, and they're they're not gonna have

(01:13:14):
to do all of the things that that he's advocating
before advocating for, so it doesn't affect them. You know,
his his socialist, communist, you know, utopian idealism is what
they voted for. But that's not what they're gonna get.
But again, it's not gonna affect them. It's gonna affect
other people, and so they don't care. I kind of

(01:13:36):
find that. And when he came out and said that
he wanted to tax the quote unquote richer wider neighborhoods,
how ironic is that? I was like, Oh, that's that's fantastic.
The very people who who voted for him, who who
got him to to the level of being the nominee
for the Democrat Party for mayor, those are the very

(01:13:58):
people he wants to tax and he wants to stick
it to. So, you know, I think that was probably
the best part of it. But you know, I, I
don't know, I don't. I hope that George is right,
that maybe he that it's just gonna because they don't
I know, they don't have ranked choice voting in the
general election. But so you know, maybe that gives Sliwa

(01:14:22):
a better chance. I don't know, he's still got an
uphill battle, but you know, we'll see. But it's gonna
be an interesting time till November to see what else,
to see what else he comes out with. And and yeah,
I mean if he is, if they're finding out now
that he's lying on college applications, Like you said, what
else is he hiding? What what other things are there

(01:14:44):
that we're gonna find out about about? You know what,
what sort once he got into college, what sort of
groups and organizations was he a member of? You know
that that hasn't been if it's been investigated, we don't know.
We don't know the answers that. So and there's a
lot of time for that to come out between now
and November, so we may find out it just exactly

(01:15:08):
what else he's lying about.

Speaker 6 (01:15:12):
Something tells me there may be quite a bit. But
you know what kind of makes me think in terms
here with lying on your application, if any one of
us here were to have lied on our college application,
and then here they are. They found out that Amy's

(01:15:33):
doing the forensic work that she is doing, or find
George doing his podcasts, or read just two of your
articles from Red State, or checks out the in Your
Face podcast, or if they check out Patriot music dot com,
they would instantly be revoking our degrees. They could instantly

(01:15:59):
be trying to pay us in whatever way that they could.
But because this guy has a father who is a
major part of academia, and because he tells the right
kind of lies, Uh, They're they're going to to act
as if we're just bigoted, hateful menal Republicans, even though

(01:16:25):
I consider myself more conservative than a Republican that you know,
we're we're not even allowed to ask the question, Uh,
is there going to be some type of fallout from
the university? And I guess you know, we we still
need to get from George and from Mattuh their idea
of why any group of people should be willing to

(01:16:48):
trust these folks. But if you want to jump in
on the the notion of what type of potential uh
pushback from the university, except what should they do? I
guess that's the question. And we'll go ahead and we'll
go with Matt Person and we'll end up with George

(01:17:10):
since he's kind of started in on this conversation with
Mandamie in the first place.

Speaker 9 (01:17:15):
Well, skeletons in the closet is kind of hand in
hand with far leftism anyway. You know, recently we found
out about AOC lying she's some tough girl from the Bronx,
and somebody finally had enough and showed pictures of you know,
his yearbook where she is certainly certainly was not from
where she claimed. And you know the same thing with

(01:17:38):
Kamala Harris, and just this goes hand in hand with
all of them. And I know that politics in general attracts,
generally speaking, the worst sorts of people. You know, petty
criminals usually get caught when they're young. Most of them
are very dumb. But if if you're really a smart
criminal and you really want to go to the highest

(01:18:01):
places where you can steal the most money, nothing beats Washington, DC.
You know, nothing beats the mayor's office. And so anyway,
this sort of thing goes hand in hand with it.
You know, the ideology of the left, though they're really zealots.
They're very, very passionate. They think that they're on some
sort of a mission in order to save you know,

(01:18:27):
all of these poor, helpless individuals.

Speaker 7 (01:18:30):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
This is an arrogance.

Speaker 9 (01:18:32):
And we've seen this in American history, for example, with
for example, prohibition and some of these other things. You know,
Northeast liberals, for example, leading these movements because they knew
what was best for everyone else. And this guy's no different.
He's an elitist, he's a racist. And I really don't
think that there hasn't been enough time. As soon as

(01:18:56):
a handful of you know, journalists like Becky and others
go out and scratch the surface, You're gonna find all
sorts of.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
Nasty stuff in this guy's closet. I have no doubt
about it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
George.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Look, so Ron mamdonni is probably the biggest BS artist going.
I mean, yes, Eric Adams can BS with the best
of them. So can Andrew Cuomo. How do you think
Andrew Pomo managed to become governor of the state of

(01:19:32):
New York, but his time ran out because he got caught.
You know, there was a question raised a long time ago.
Is there any such thing as a good lie? And
you want to know something, No lie is a good lie.

(01:19:55):
You get caught lying once, eventually you get caught lying
more and more. And that old adage rings true, and
it applies to lying. Fool me once, shame on you,
fool me twice, shame on me, fool me a third time,
and you're up the creek without a paddle, no baud row.

(01:20:17):
And that's the polite way of putting it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
Always appreciate George reeling it back a bit. Yeah, I
think both you and Matt make excellent points here as
far as what's going on. Greg and Randy and a

(01:20:43):
Z in the chat room also making some excellent points.
I'm trying to keep up with some of that and
keep tracted with you guys. But you know, I do
tend to think that when it comes right down to
it there, especially if you're one of these new Democrats,
if you are part of the justice Democrat branch, these

(01:21:05):
socialist Democrats as they're calling themselves, that line is part
of the resume you have to be ready to become
a character. I don't know if this is exclusive to
the Bernie Sanders side of the equation. I don't know

(01:21:26):
if this is because the people pulling the strings from
the background know that they can't sell what their policy wise,
what they're trying to sell to the American people, so
they have to convince them some other way, almost as
if you're watching a character on television instead of somebody
that's actually going to be making decisions that not only

(01:21:49):
could affect your life, but literally could be life or
death under certain circumstances. The ongoing story in regards to
AOC having auditioned more so than having ran the Justice
Democrats were looking for somebody and her brother nominated her.

(01:22:11):
Now they've tried to go back and debunk that at
this point, but at first there wasn't much in the
way of pushback from that story. I know AOC was
asked about it several times and she actually kind of
ripped along it as being true, and before she decided
that it wasn't her brother.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
Huh, Well, Omar's got her not department.

Speaker 6 (01:22:33):
Well, at least we can say that Hispanic upbringing is
a little more family traditional. I think we'll leave the
rest of the ill Hands story right where it is,
but a pretty good singer there, Matt. Ultimately, I think

(01:22:53):
what we really are looking at, though, as people that
they just can't be honest, and so they've kind of
thrown out the entire idea of even trying.

Speaker 7 (01:23:11):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
I think at the end of the day, everybody, you know,
when when you talk about you know you brought up AOC. Okay,
I'm from Peakskill, New York, originally born in Valhalla, New York,
raised in Peak Skill. I know the I know the
area in Westchester County that she lived in better than
she knows. Okay, I know the exactly. I know the

(01:23:34):
name of the street that the house is located on.
I've been to that street. In fact, when Benny Johnson
brought it up, he showed a few houses that had
Trump signs on it. Wow, there's a wonderful thought. AOC

(01:23:54):
lived in a neighborhood that's Trump people. Terrible, terrible for her,
isn't it. But it gets even worse for her AOC. Okay,
she keeps claiming to be a Bronx girl. But at
the age of five, her parents moved into that house

(01:24:15):
that her father bought for one hundred and I think
it was one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars at
the time. Okay, And you know what the high school
she went to the middle school. Milderd e Strang Middle
School is on the same property as the high school.

(01:24:35):
In fact, they're not too far away from each other.
Great way for the district to save money on that one.
By the way, it actually paid off for them. But
the simple fact is AOC lied and continues to lie
about her upbringing. Hey, Bronx girl, I got news for you.
I'm a Westchester man. I don't claim. I don't claim

(01:25:00):
to be a Poughkeepsie guy. I'm a Peak Skill guy.
And you know what, nearly fifty years in the volunteer
Peak Fire Department of the City of Peak Skill, having
marched in parades in Yorktown Heights, New York on multiple
occasions in my life during my lifetime. I got news
for you, baby. If you're a if you're a Bronx girl, I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
Bill Clinton. All right, quick show of hands. Did anybody
else half expect George to start throwing up gang signs?

Speaker 10 (01:25:41):
So now do I have to claim I'm just a
tough girl from the mean streets in North Saint Louis County.

Speaker 6 (01:25:49):
I think that is good standard.

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
However you slice it. It's identity politics.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
Yeah, but it is.

Speaker 5 (01:25:58):
It's always identity politics with all of them. Always.

Speaker 9 (01:26:04):
I mean, how can you how can you skim the
cream off the top for yourself if you don't stir
it all up and set all the pieces against each other,
right right.

Speaker 6 (01:26:13):
That's true, sir sir? All right, Well, I don't think
we can talk about how great Marka is and celebrate
Marca's birthday here in twenty twenty five without talking about
the biggest victory of this week. No, not the big
beautiful bill, but the bringing online of Alligator Alcatraz. Now

(01:26:39):
there's only one thing better than Marca, and that's more America.
And when we get more America, we have gators running
guard duty just a few miles away from the Gulf
of Marca.

Speaker 10 (01:26:54):
Don't forget the pythons, that's right, pythons.

Speaker 14 (01:26:58):
We don't want to give away swamp house too, okay, people,
all right, so everybody forgets about the swamp house.

Speaker 6 (01:27:16):
All right, So let's start I guess with Matt on
this one. Obviously, we've heard quite a bit from the left.
They're astro turf protesting, talking about the environmental impact involving

(01:27:36):
something that was already there instead of being used and
upgraded a bit. I don't know which neighbors are going
to be the most upset by it. Perhaps some of
the iguanas that are trying to escape the pythons, maybe
some of the swamp cows. I don't know. They might
be upset by it too. But first of all, how

(01:27:59):
absurd is that the left still wants to push hard
against this idea that the American people in general, including
a lot of the folks that typically vote for them,
are over the invasion of undocumented illegal alien migrants that

(01:28:21):
for the most part, would be welcomed here if they
would just go through the system the right way. The
system is flawed, it could be improved, there's no question there.
But I'm sorry if you're going to send people back
to Scotland because of a delay in paperwork that you,
the bureaucracy caused, and then you're going to look the

(01:28:42):
other day for gang members from South and Central America
moving around the country. I'm not going to listen to
that lecture from you. But meanwhile, I like the imagery, Matt.
I like the idea. It's sending a message, Okay, if
you're here illegally, self deport now, or you'll end up here.

(01:29:03):
If you're thinking about coming here illegally, you might spend
some time there Guantanamo or Alligator Alcatraz, or if if
we could go ahead and get the real Alcatraz open
back up too. I know that's not going to happen,
but Trump talked about it ever so briefly. That's more
about psychological sending the message think twice before coming here

(01:29:25):
the wrong way. But your thoughts is this became a thing.

Speaker 9 (01:29:31):
I don't know if anyone has ever referenced Shakespeare twice
in your show, but I'm going to try to go
for a record here. Really, it's much to do about nothing,
because to cut to the chase, the Democratic Party has
no platform. They don't they don't have a leg to
stand on. Nothing they believe in is provable. Nothing they
accuse the Republican side of is demonstrable. They don't have

(01:29:56):
a leg to stand on. At the end of the day,
you know, Donald Trump is an enter as much as
he is a patriot and a businessman and a negotiator
and all these other things. And Ron DeSantis loves this too.
I mean, I don't know how long going back, but
I would say at least by the nineteen nineties, me

(01:30:18):
and other friends. We're talking about, you know, putting alligators
on the southern border. This is an age old discussion
that people have had for a very very long time.
So there's a lot of there's a lot of what's
the word I'm looking for entertainment in this concept, But

(01:30:38):
it's very pragmatic as well. It's got to be done,
it should be done. It's a perfect place. You've got
a governor and.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
Generally speaking, you know whatever, sixty percent of the population.

Speaker 9 (01:30:49):
Of the state that it's going to be in support
the idea, you know, and I'd say half of them
would love to add machine gun nests. So it's much
to do about nothing, really, I mean, the Democrats don't
have a leg to stand on, absolutely no platform.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
Nothing that they believe in works.

Speaker 7 (01:31:08):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:31:08):
They live in this pie in the sky ideal world
where it's easy to come up with all of these
great ideas that other people have to implement because they
don't affect you. You know, this is the way communist
parties work. So I love watching them squirm and get
all upset over it because it's a great idea and actually,

(01:31:32):
if they weren't so obnoxious, and you know, with their elitism,
they probably never would.

Speaker 5 (01:31:37):
Have come up with this idea.

Speaker 9 (01:31:39):
But anything that just upsets them is just great entertainment
beats football in my mind any day.

Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
It is well as a fan of SEC college football,
I'm gonna have to say it's a close second, but
I understand. And also, by the way, just for the record,
five five Shakespeare references is the record. But to be fair,
Spencer Claven was my guest during this segment. Okay, Becky,

(01:32:11):
your thoughts.

Speaker 10 (01:32:14):
You know, I think it's it's it's another example of
Donald Trump thinking outside the box. And I don't know
if this was his idea. I'm sure it probably wasn't,
but there's gotta be some deterrent and and like somebody
else just said, I guess Matt just said that that

(01:32:36):
there are no no I think it was you Tim
that said, you know, they keep they keep doubling down
on all the things that that the American people have
said over and over that they don't want, and that's
illegal millions of illegal immigrants roaming the country and committing crimes,
murdering people, raping people, uh, sex trafficking, child trafficking, what

(01:32:57):
have you. And I like I said, I think it's
it's a deterrent. It's it's definitely a deterrent. You got
one way in and you got one way out, or
you're gonna be an order. And uh, I think I
said the other night, when when this was all getting
up and running, that there's gonna be there's gonna be

(01:33:21):
at least one at least one person, if not a couple,
who are not gonna take this seriously, and they will
try to escape in some way, and well you're not
gonna see him again, you know. But uh, it's it.

(01:33:41):
It's another I like, I said, another idea that that's
kind of outside the box. And there is there there
are other states I think that are interested maybe in
kind of coming up with their their own version of
Alligator Alcatraz. You know, I'm not sure here in Missouri
what we might do, but uh, I'm sure there's something.

(01:34:02):
But uh yeah, I think it's a good idea. I
think that, you know, and you know, Democrats are going
to jump up and down and Yellen scream about how
it's so inhumane and oh, you know there's there's you know,
they're keeping these people in cages and you know they're
not doingthing. They're They're in an air conditioned facility. They've
got medical care, they've got food, they've got three hots
and a cot. Joe Biden had people camped out on

(01:34:27):
the Texas on the southern border in Texas when it
was well over one hundred degrees and but that was humane.
I mean, like Mike just are that Matches said, they
they don't have a leg to stand on, so they're
going to jump up and down and Yellen scream about it.
But I'll take something else that match just said. And
anytime that you got Democrats jumping up and down, yelling

(01:34:48):
and screaming about something more fun.

Speaker 6 (01:34:50):
For us, all right, Amy, I have kind of a
different take on it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Well.

Speaker 12 (01:35:03):
I like alligator alcatraz one. I've even, like Matt said,
people have been talking about this for years. I said
they should be placing alligators at the border of Texas
this whole entire time.

Speaker 7 (01:35:19):
During the in Biden administration as well.

Speaker 12 (01:35:22):
I think it's a fantastic idea down especially down here
in the Miami area where we get droves and droves
of immigrants just on boats. They come in by the thousands,
land on the beaches, jump off the boats onto the
water and our beaches. We have cocaine that had washes

(01:35:42):
up by the shores. They use drones, they use beacons,
they use detectors in order to locate those drugs before
they're caught. And we need a solution to this type
of invasion. And even if they are not found guilty,

(01:36:04):
we have control of that right off the bat and
they could be released back away or they can be
sent home. They're not wasting taxpayer dollars, they're not wasting
our food, are getting our benefit. We're cutting those off
from our supplies. I feel sorry for those people that

(01:36:27):
are on here by work visas because obviously they applied
for work visa. They have the right to be here
for work visa. I'm all for illegal immigration. Well, I'm
all for immigration, but on the legal standpoint. I used
to work with illegal immigrants all the time back when

(01:36:50):
I was like eighteen years old.

Speaker 7 (01:36:51):
And working at the liquor store. You know, some of
these people are the nicest people and they don't mean
any harm. They just came here for a better life.

Speaker 12 (01:37:03):
But in order to get that better life, they have
to work for that life. And you shouldn't be trafficking
And I think This is the perfect way.

Speaker 7 (01:37:15):
The Dems, on the other hand, they wanted the.

Speaker 12 (01:37:18):
Illegal immigration to spike up their numbers for that control,
that population control. If we all remember, they wanted to
increase the number of seats and the judicial systems for
our Supreme Court justices. They wanted to add additional seats
and members to it. And the population growth helps them

(01:37:43):
keep those seats and get those numbers and add them
even into like our senators when where, and our voting.

Speaker 7 (01:37:51):
Rights, and that helps their population when them granting them
right to vote.

Speaker 12 (01:38:01):
And I think the Democrats were trying that out in
New York, giving authorization for them to vote, if I
was correct on that. I believe they were talking about
that two weeks ago. I haven't checked up on that
placement yet, but they're trying to grant them authorization to

(01:38:23):
even vote in our elections and that so they could
keep their seats and make sure they have that they're
secured positions in there for for lifetime. So I think
that more people should be upholding the law, no matter

(01:38:43):
if you are left and right from a governor's standpoint
or a senator standpoint.

Speaker 7 (01:38:51):
Desantas has been rocking it here in Florida. He locked
geo engineering in chemtrail, he made laws on artificial intelligence.
He put.

Speaker 12 (01:39:05):
Hoaid bands and gaps for senior citizens. He's putting in
land rights and mortgage rights, not only for our property taxes,
but we'll own our houses once our mortgages are paid
off board. Now during hurricane seasons, we get taxed through

(01:39:27):
credit systems. During school supplies, they don't tax school supplies
like on computers and laptops, calculators, note books, pens and pencils,
and all of that is beneficial for us our state.
And I believe he's on the right path, and I
think others governors should see that what he's doing because

(01:39:52):
he's raising our economy, he's bringing people in, and we're able.

Speaker 7 (01:39:58):
To keep our land and pri and so I think
this is just another smart move in.

Speaker 12 (01:40:04):
Order to protect our borders, because that's where most of
our legal immigrants come from, from the Cuba side and
from the lower half in Florida. So the Everglades is
a perfect spot to put that, and we could get
them in and out very very easy. So I love

(01:40:28):
ol Alligator Alcatraz. I think I'm going to buy the
T shirt.

Speaker 6 (01:40:34):
That's actually going to be one of the questions. How
many of you already have orders for Alligator Alcatraz hats
or T shirts. I'm waiting for my hoodie to come
in Georgia. I'm assuming you put the hat on for
a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
That's right now, this is just a prop. I'm hoping
to do some independent filmmaking eventually.

Speaker 11 (01:40:57):
But let me put on the legal beagle with a
badge attitude. It's simple. Send them to Alligator Alcatraz.

Speaker 15 (01:41:14):
Our trained professional alligators and pythons will make absolutely certain
that nobody escapes, and if they do, they become a
lunch for our well trained operatives.

Speaker 6 (01:41:30):
Trust me, you may get in, but if you try
to get out.

Speaker 15 (01:41:37):
Bye bye.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Boys. It's it's It's one thing, you know. I I'll
joke about things at times, but I mean, maybe clear
is it a good idea? Hell yeah, I think it's.
I think I think it's the the It was the
smartest idea to come out of this whole situation. And

(01:42:01):
of course the left is gonna is gonna spew over it,
call it, you know, inhumane and everything else. But I
you know, and I agree with I forget who said
who brought it up? Off the top of my head.
But uh, when you look at at the four years
of Biden or should I say auto president auto pen Yeah, uh,

(01:42:23):
and you look at all those videos of those folks
that came into our country across the southern border illegally
by the thousands, literally being camped out in the in
the one hundred degree plus temperatures, underneath bridges and literally
in camped behind fencing and everything else. Well, guess what,

(01:42:49):
you're pointing the finger? Okay, remember this old saying, you
point the finger, there's always gonna be three fingers pointing
back at you. Well guess what. The Left hasn't learn
that lesson yet. So Alcatraz, alligator, I keep, I keep,
I keep leaving the alligator part out for some reason.
I don't know why. Forgetful mind, I guess, but alligator Alcatraz,

(01:43:13):
good grief, What a what a fantastic way to repurpose
an old airfield. I mean, you've got the most natural
barrier on the planet. Nature has provided you with the
best security force, and you don't have to pay. And
you know what they get paid when a person tries

(01:43:35):
to escape, Yeah, with a free lunch.

Speaker 7 (01:43:39):
I mean that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
I'm not saying that to be comical either, that's dead serious.
You try to escape from a place like that into
an environment like that, you're asking for some serious teeth
marks and a full belly for the for the for
the alligator and python the operatives. But yeah, that that

(01:44:05):
that is as far as I'm concerned, that should be
a gold standard when dealing with these with these illegal
alien invaders, because that's what they are. Let's let's let's
look at it realistically. You come across the southern border,
you're invading our country. And guess what. I got no

(01:44:26):
sympathy for illegal alien invaders. I'm tired of people calling
them illegal immigrants, illegal migrants because immigrants. My great grandfather
immigrated from Germany on my father's side of the family.
He was a legal immigrant. It's a slap in the
face to all persons who came across the right way,

(01:44:48):
who came through Ellis Island and so forth. So you
know what, these illegal alien invaders are going to get
exactly what they deserve. Alligator out Patras. If anybody has
a link to where I can get some shirts like
that or even hats, let me know.

Speaker 6 (01:45:09):
I think you can find them at the Census for
President Uh yeah, I just I keep I meant to
go get the video clip and the right about here
is where I would play, but I ran out of time.
But I just keep getting this image of the crocodile

(01:45:31):
from Peter Pan creeping up on Captain Hook or just
something to always been in the back of your mind,
Peter Pan. The animated movie suddenly becomes a horror a
story for illegal migrants. Uh yeah, I mean it's I
think again. It sends that great psychological message about self

(01:45:54):
deportation and about thinking twice before coming here. But it is,
as we pointed out, and as they were saying in
the chat room as well, a great utilization of peace
of land that had been previously developed. It wasn't really
being used for anything. And yet it gives us at

(01:46:16):
the time when they finished renovations, an extra five thousand
beds for these folks that will let us move faster.
And another aspect here they're talking about deputizing into the
immigration courts some of the I believe it's the Coastguard judges,

(01:46:39):
judge advocates letting them start working some of this as well.
Why not, why haven't we already done it? Obviously the
previous administration was working the other way, but we could
have done this beforehand. And I think the amazing part
to me is the fact that there seems to be
a real effort to continue you to honor and respect

(01:47:02):
court orders that are coming from lawless judges who are
just trying to well for all intents and purposes, they
are engaging in judicial insurrection. They're ignoring the law, ignoring
the Constitution, and then ignoring the Supreme Court when technically
they're boss when they tell them, no, you can't do this,

(01:47:24):
and they continue to push this issue. I usually often
ask the question I rarely have this many people at
one time, is if this type of judicial insurrection continues,
and this is a simple yes or no for everybody
before we get to our next subject, because we're already

(01:47:45):
running out of time, and I was hoping to get
to two more topics, but simple yes or no. Would
there become a time soon if the judicial insurrection continues,
or it would be appropriate for the Trump administration to
just finally start telling some of these lower court judges
to go pound sand the The authority is their constitutionally

(01:48:09):
and they're going to do it. Uh, we'll start again,
We'll go the same route we did last time, Matt.

Speaker 5 (01:48:15):
Not yet, It's better optics to let it play out, Okay, Thanky, I.

Speaker 10 (01:48:22):
Would say yes, yes, because it's obvious what they're trying
to do.

Speaker 7 (01:48:28):
Amy I, it's the question I was chatting with Greg
about shark.

Speaker 6 (01:48:37):
Greg, how dare you distract? My guest? The question is
that at this point, the Trump administration has been trying
really hard to continue to appeal and respect judicial rulings,
even these clear violations of the Constitution that it's lawless

(01:49:03):
judges pretending to be law and order. Are we getting
to the point now where it would be appropriate for
the Trump administration to tell some of these lower court
judges to just go pound sand or do we still
need to continue to appeal and go through the process
as they have so far.

Speaker 12 (01:49:25):
I still think we should appeal and go through the process,
and that was only because they're still in a power
position and we still have to.

Speaker 7 (01:49:33):
Follow law and order.

Speaker 12 (01:49:35):
And when somebody fights for or stands for a certain right,
they have the right to appeal that process and take it.

Speaker 7 (01:49:43):
Into the Supreme Court justices.

Speaker 12 (01:49:47):
Although there is a lot of corruptions and it's not
just our Supreme Court justices that are corrupt. The corruption
goes all the way down even into the local areas,
and the judges even for traffic toke gets in violations
on people's constitutional rights. Going we need major reform in

(01:50:09):
that area altogether. But how are you going to create
that reform? And that is where because we still have
to follow the law. We still have to follow state rules, regulations,
federal rules and regulations.

Speaker 7 (01:50:27):
And there's a certain order even for like when Trump
did the.

Speaker 12 (01:50:32):
Bombing with I AM and they didn't give congressional approval,
there has to be some oversight because that is when
you do get a tyrannical government and a president that
can dictate and become a dictator, and so there has
to be a form.

Speaker 7 (01:50:52):
Of check and balances.

Speaker 12 (01:50:54):
I believe now how we reform those check and balances
is my major I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:51:01):
Even have a solution for that.

Speaker 12 (01:51:04):
Other than looking at a person's background check, looking at
the files and complaints against them, and looking for criminal
activity that they might be involved in. I think there
should be a set standard no matter what before you
place a person on that bench, and they shouldn't hold

(01:51:26):
political values.

Speaker 7 (01:51:27):
They should only uphold the law. And we do need
reforming it. So that's kind of my basis on that.

Speaker 12 (01:51:35):
I really do think that we should continue this process
until we could figure out a solution to the corruption.

Speaker 5 (01:51:42):
We need that.

Speaker 12 (01:51:43):
Because that's the basis of what our country stands for,
and that's what our country needs right now, all right, George.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
Well, yes, I think that after all appeals have been
exulted at the end of the day, Yes, I think,
you know, President Trump exercising his First Amendment right to
tell the court in a polite way where they can
go pound salt. But let's also not forget that the

(01:52:17):
Congress has the authority to actually pull the plug on
all on all of these courts too. And if it
becomes so problematic that these courts continue to interfere with
the executive branch the way they're doing, because let's not

(01:52:37):
forget it's the people on the left who are judge shopping,
as the term is being coined these days. If it's
going to keep happening like that, and and and the
and regardless of who's in the Oval office, if it
continues to happen where there their executive authority is being

(01:52:58):
undermined because of court rulings, then it may be necessary
for the Congress to say, you know what, this is
the last straw mm hmm. We need to we need
to to take some of these federal courts and just
say you've abused your your authority, you've gone too far.

(01:53:21):
Mm hm, and that's it. You're done. Is that Is
that the best solution in all honesty? I think it is.
But what what's it going to take to get to
that point? That's the one question that comes to mind.

Speaker 6 (01:53:39):
Well, you know, I I asked the question because I'm
constantly going back and forth with this, uh, and I
have to say that it's I'm literally torn between Matt
and Becky here. It's been made clear, it's been made
obvious that a lot of these judges are only trying
to interfere with the policy. They don't care anymore about

(01:54:01):
due process than anybody else in these cases, because generally speaking,
if you are in this country as a guest, or
if you're in this country illegally, you are entitled to
exactly this new process as the executive branch is willing
to offer, and it's not up to the judicial to

(01:54:25):
determine that although there is this ending precedent that once
you are in the system, then the judicial gets to
decide how far it goes. It's a question of getting
them in the system in the first place. But Matt
is writing so much that as soon as you stop
following the traditional route of okay, this judge is made

(01:54:49):
a rule, and now we're going to appeal that, we're
going to go get the Supreme Court to smack it down.
The second you stop doing that is the second that
suddenly the opt are wrong. And that's really the only
concern at this point, because legally speaking, when judges are
issuing illegal orders, they have as much authority as me

(01:55:10):
issuing an illegal order. Right here, it's like you will
round up George Sendzor right now and never let him
tell another joke. I don't think anybody is going to
care that I said that, although I'll be sad because
I will miss those jokes. But ultimately does have to

(01:55:30):
be a balance for if all you're doing is obstructing
and you're ignoring the Constitution, or as a lower court,
as George pointed out, Congress has the authority to create
these lower courts and to disband them if they feel
the need, in order to help the Supreme Court to
get through their necessary adjudications. They're there to help, not ignore,

(01:55:54):
not to buck up against, and not to act like, well,
you've made a ruling, but I'm still going to stand
by this ruling. My ruling is still in effect, that
what the Supreme Court said doesn't matter. At that point,
I think we're beyond the realm of judicial impeachment and
we've moved into a realm of the executive just needs

(01:56:17):
to exercise the executive power, and the Supreme Court needs
to proactively not even wait. But then we're entering a
whole new level of judicial activism that is well beyond
not only president but also creates potential for abuse. So
I'm ridiculously conflicted on the matter either way, because I'm

(01:56:41):
fearing that we've crossed the rubicon at this point. There
is a group of people that typically have a D
at the end of their name. They claim to be
representative of the Democratic Party, but it's a party that
they wouldn't have fit in just fifteen years ago, that
are still trying to create an arci and still trying
to tear everything down. And we're in a position where

(01:57:04):
which every way you go, they have the contingency to
keep trying to tear down the system.

Speaker 5 (01:57:10):
Maybe this will help, Maybe this will help pull you
to my side. Tim, not until the midterms. You know
there is there is a history of presidents ignoring judges,
and you know our tricameral system is kind of based
on this. But not tell the midterms.

Speaker 6 (01:57:30):
Okay, well I can't argue with that. Now, for the
purposes of Doug's recording, at this point, I'm going to
thank each and every one of you for joining me tonight,
super super quick. Let everybody know where they can find
your work. We'll start with Matt.

Speaker 9 (01:57:46):
HEYDRIMUSA dot com. As always, everything is available there. Five
albums and I've got some new music coming out, and
I've got a lot of shorts on youtubes. On youtubes
now it's plural, you know, Yeah, rumble, YouTube, Vimeo, I
guess those or YouTube's lots of different places articles written.

Speaker 5 (01:58:04):
Uh, come on over to Patreo Music dot com.

Speaker 6 (01:58:06):
Love to hear from people, all right, Amy.

Speaker 7 (01:58:09):
Yeah, I'm Amy Hollum. You can find me at Amy's
audios dot com. I'm on ACT. I want to say Twitter,
Amy's Audios on ACT. You can find me at my
email addresses. Don scream Amy's Audios at ProtonMail dot com.

Speaker 12 (01:58:27):
And if you want, you could always give me a
call eight one five, three zero seven or six one nine.

Speaker 6 (01:58:34):
It takes a brave kind of soul to put a
phone number out there that you're really gonna answer.

Speaker 5 (01:58:39):
Unless that's George's phone number.

Speaker 7 (01:58:44):
Okay, you're gonna call.

Speaker 6 (01:58:51):
Becky.

Speaker 4 (01:58:52):
Well.

Speaker 10 (01:58:53):
You can find me at RedState dot com and on
substack at Gumshoe Politics dot substack. And I also have
a little mini ten minute or so podcasts there called
in Your Face, which is on my substack page as well.

Speaker 1 (01:59:09):
And George, Well, if you're looking for Firefox News online,
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Speaker 6 (01:59:28):
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