Hey State Department, Y'all Fired, Varsity Blues on the FBI, & the Battle to Restore Lives

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but he has not been on the radio show before. He's,
of course the author of Varsity Blues, the Scandal within
the Scandal, and we had a heck of a conversation
with him about the book and about his backstory. But

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tonight we're gonna be talking about how John Brennan and
James Comy are currently under criminal investigation. With the question
in mind there is can the FBI actually be reformed
to once again start protecting America from future corruption and weaponization?
I know what I hope, but I also know what

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friend of the show. Usually he's here for the first
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he was unavailable, but he's with us tonight and we're
going to be talking about even further the tragedy of
the flooding that's taken place just a few miles away

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She has served under the previous Trump administration as chief
of Staff at the us EPA. She has been a

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long time environmental attorney, an energy strategist, and, as you're
about to hear, in case you've forgotten, one hell of
a communicator. She is, as I've already mentioned, the author
of Y'all Fired, a Southern Bell's Guide to Restoring Federalism
and Draining the Swamp. Ladies and gentlemen living the good

(09:45):
life out of Oxford, Mississippi with her family, please welcome aboard,
Miss Mandy Gones. Mandy, my even close here?

Speaker 8 (09:58):
You are? You are? You're so it's goodnes You're like
right there. I would have gone with it.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
I will eventually get that correct, I promise. But in
the meanwhile, I'm just gonna call you Mandy, if that's okay. First, perfect, First,
before we get into anything at all, how are you today?

Speaker 8 (10:17):
I'm doing great, really great. It's been a busy week,
certainly a tragic week with the way everything started with
the floods in Texas and a lot of rightful energy
and resources have been focused on that, but overall, you know,
a lot of the more broadly, the presidents in America
first egen is playing ally positive ways. I'm sure you

(10:40):
and your listeners saw this. For the first time, we
have a budget serves in a really long time that
is on the books, and that's largely due to the
President's Paris initiatives as well as restoring America to a
position of energy dominance. So these things, this is just
this is just the start. It's really going to start
to play out and not just benefit a large but

(11:03):
benefit individual Americans. Keeping true to the promises he made
to make life in this country more affordable and to
create more opportunities for the broader public.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Right basically everything that the other side is fighting against
and pretending that they're fighting for the average American. I
think most people are finally starting to see through that
particular we'll call it a spin to be diplomatic. Of course,

(11:34):
we know it's a flat out, bald faced lie, but
you know, we'll be diplomatic here, and in our effort
to do so, one of the most outrageous things that
I have seen. You know, we've been watching for a
while now the folks that stick a D at the
end of their name, they have to attack Donald Trump

(11:55):
because he is a different kind of animal. He believes
in getting things accomplished. He believes in moving at a
pace that our federal government isn't really designed to move at.
So that gives the bad guys plenty of time to
put road blocks in stall and spend and have an
opportunity to make folks look bad. But when we see

(12:17):
events like the tragedy tragedy at Camp Mystic and through
other parts of Texas, and we see long standing events
literally every place from Alaska to Texas, from Los Angeles
to New York, lots of things are going on, and

(12:38):
every time there is a tragedy, the Democrats have to
jump on it and they have to try to find
a way to spin it and to see finger pointing
and to try to blame Trump's FEMA response, to try
to blame the EPA, to try to blame DOGE and
the budgetary cuts it and people that know how FEMA

(12:59):
is supposed to work out there again line, well, we
didn't do this, and we didn't do that. We've seen
such a great effort from the State of Texas in
trying to handle this and respond to it, which is
how this is supposed to work. The state's supposed to
be there, the local community handles stuff first, the state

(13:19):
is there, and then they're only supposed to ask for
help when it's more than they can handle. And the
Trump administration was in position they didn't move into areas,
they were on standby, and to pretend otherwise it's such
a ridiculous lie. But it just it angers me so much, Mandy,
to see something where people's lives have been so greatly

(13:43):
affected and they want to just play on the edges
and somehow make it some goals, some toy to be
played with these people's lives as they're desperately trying to
put it back together. And I thank god for the
average everyday people, the Texan the folks from Louisiana, and
the people with the common sense to step up and

(14:05):
do the right thing that are there actually helping. It's
just it's infuriating.

Speaker 8 (14:10):
Yeah, it's really frustrating to see, and with particularly focusing
on the Texas situation and Camp Mystic, it's really sick
what the Democrats are doing. They're trying to turn this
tragedy and try to turn it around and blame President Trump.
And they're going to try to blame him for every
bad thing that happens from January twentieth of this year

(14:36):
on for the next four years. But it's such a
double standard, it's not supported by facts. One of the
things that they keep talking about is, you know, there's
two main things that they keep talking about when it
comes to the Texas floods and what happened in New
Mexico as well as some other inevitable still disasters that

(14:57):
are occurring. They're trying to say that one, there were
enough emergency alerts because of DOGE, DOGE cuts on staffing
to the National Weather Service. That's not true. Actually, at
the weather station that issued three increasingly dire warnings, they
were overstaffed. Typically there's two to three meteorologists at those

(15:18):
stations because of the weather that was there. I think
they had five, it was either five or six. I
think it's five on staff during the entirety of the
flooding events. So the understaffing element and it's because of DOGE,
none of that actually rings true. And the other piece
is what the left always does is they tried to
use tragic events as a way to scare the general

(15:41):
public into believing their extreme rhetoric around climate change. So
they're saying that, oh, these one in one thousand floods
are occurring all all of the time. We have to
think about this. There's sixty plus watersheds throughout the country,
and so a one in one thousand event occur, it
is likely that there are going to be multiple of

(16:03):
those throughout the year, just by this shear magnitude and
number of watersheds that exist in this country, just from
like a geographic fact basis. The other piece is you
have to look at folks to monitor the magnitude and
the frequency of flooding events. They have stated time and
again these are in scientific assessments, not corrupted science used

(16:26):
by activist statements, but scientist statements at the international level
have agreed that there has not been an uptick in
the frequency nor magnitude of flooding events. So the two
favorite talking points of the left is they're trying to
turn this tragedy into either criticizing President Trump for his
policies that are actually good for the individual American and

(16:47):
the American citizen, and saving massive tax fare dollars and
making things more efficient, as well as trying to turn
this into another reason to support their climate agenda, which
is all about us handing our individual rights over to
the elites in Washington, DC that know better than us.
It's all premise on injecting emotions that are not supported

(17:11):
by the facts, and it's just it's so you see
it time and again. It's especially sick in this instance
as the families continue to grieve the loss of their
family members, including some of their most precious little baby girls,
and it's hard to see. It was wonderful to see
the President out there today and especially First Lady Milania Trump.
I think she summed it up quite well how many

(17:33):
of us are feeling, myself included. I have another little girl,
so it's hard to look at nine year old little
girls that lost their lives and not equate that with
I can't imagine what that's like. But what First Lady
Malania Trump said is we are all grieving with you.
Our hearts are all broken, and we want to support
them in all the ways possible, certainly with resources, but

(17:54):
also with spiritual support and prayers.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, it was very artfully stated, and it's true. I've
been so raw because as a father to daughters, I mean,
feeling exactly what you're talking about. And I see this
and it's just so heart wrenching. And then to turn
around and watch the absurdities and not just a political place,

(18:18):
but some folks trying to make it about race, and
other folks trying to make it about class, and nobody
even stopping to think for a second. We're talking about
real people, and in some cases there are still some
families that are yet to know the fate. They don't
know with certainty, and they're still hoping against all hope,

(18:39):
even though at this point they know it's not likely.
But there's still recovery to be done, and these people
are grieving and they're still just anyway, I can't go
too far down this road. I get overly emotional, then
I get tongue tied, and then I want to say
things I shouldn't say over the radio, Mandy, So I'm

(19:02):
going to leave that right there. It is one thing, though,
I mean, we're seeing things that are actually working to
get that efficiency, like you pointed out, and we've gotten
more news as something else and other topic that I
know that you're talking about and that's the announcement that
the State Department's about to start cutting back quite a

(19:24):
bit too. This still ties into the Democrats their desire
to hold power and authority. They want people dependent on
these positions, They want the bloat, They want the bureaucracy
to see the State Department gets streamlined. It seems to
me like that is one of the places that probably

(19:46):
long overdue to be streamlined. We know there's still lots
in the other places, but what was your initial thought
when you heard the announcement that we're going to be
seeing somewhere around thirteen hundred career diplomat some civil servants
end up looking for some new line of work.

Speaker 8 (20:06):
Yeah, I hope this is the first of many rounds
of cuts. The State Department is one of the worst
in terms of the deep state that actively worked against
President Trumps terms. I mean, in my book, one of
the first stories I talk about is how the State
Department people I had to interact with who were no
fan of me or President Trump, because I was a

(20:26):
big part of him getting out of the pair of
Climate Accord due to previous work I had done in
the Senate, and they went out of their way not
just to stop the president's policies, but also to demean, demoralize,
and discredit any of the political appointees like myself to
support the president and get those policy decisions across the

(20:47):
finish line, including at international bodies like the United Nations
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which is where these annual
climate gatherings are ultimately housed. The State Department. It has
a lot of people, not all of them, but the
ones that I came into contact with, which were in
the Climate division, So you're talking about some of the
most extreme of the extreme. They actually go around not

(21:11):
representing the good things that the United States of in
America brings to the table at these international bodies. They
go to the table and they try to apologize for
being American. It was a bunch of apologists that were
trying to represent the interests of this country at these
international bodies, and it actually harmed us as a country

(21:32):
and as individuals in a really big way. The Paris
Climate Accord was one example. The Iran Nuclear Deal was
another example. I mean, these were instances where America wasn't
just per second, we were put substantially behind the interests
of other countries that wanted to create either economic harm
or undermine national security and broader defense initiatives. And so

(21:55):
you had a lot of people at the State Department
that were of this mentality. They weren't proud of the
United States, and they weren't proud to be American. They
were apopologist, and they were sorry about it, and that's
how they would come to the negotiating table. And you've
had all these international agreements that were the manifestation of
that that undermined economic success opportunities and made life harder

(22:22):
and more expensive and more dangerous for the citizens of
this great country. So the fact that Secretary Rubio and
his team they're working not just to streamline the operations,
but to get the apologists out and making sure people
who are representing the interests of the United States and
any type of negotiating situation are proud to be an

(22:44):
American and bring the positive things that we can to
the table. I think that's really really important and that
is going to result in some really long term positive
outcomes for our country.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, there's no question when we're talking about people that
were not just undermining the foreign policy that the setting
president wanted to implement, which is literally the opposite of
their job, but going so far in some cases as
to establishing back channels with their foreign equivalents to a

(23:24):
point that some of these people were literally creeping right
up on if they didn't cross the line into full
blown treason. And I think a lot of these folks
really don't understand how fortunate they are that maybe they're
not being investigated and being charged with some of the
things they've done, because in their mind they're the good

(23:44):
guys fighting the resistance because the Orange Man bad. But
in truth, they violated not just the trust of the
American people, and not just the trust of the president
with whom they serve at the leisure of but they
literally violated law in some cases. And they've been very
lucky not to be caught up in the net and

(24:05):
then have to face consequences of a more serious nature
than just possibly getting a pink slip.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
Yeah, that's right, And you know, I hope people who
have crossed that line, I hope that they are held
to account, that justice comes knocked in on their door,
because doing those sorts of things, especially on the defense side,
that undermine the president's initiatives, that is inexcusable, and there
are laws against that for a reason. The other thing

(24:33):
I wanted to say about the State Department, and you
know the Department of Defenses up there as well. The
Left loves massive, unchecked bureaucracy because the policies that the
Left pushes they make life harder, they make life more expensive,
they undermine the safety and the security of the average
American citizen. And the Left doesn't want to be held

(24:57):
to account for the consequences of their bad policies, so
they love a very convoluted, massive bureaucracy where if you're
a citizen who's been negatively impacted by one of their decisions,
you can't call them directly. You don't know who to call.
And so that's why going back to the start of

(25:17):
the administration, when the Department of Government Efficiency was first
getting underway and exposing the waste, fraud, and abuse and
rank corruption that was occurring at places like USAID that
is supposed to be the moral standard for good works
of the United States. If you talk to the people
who were working there, turns out they were just a

(25:37):
large taxpayer money laundry scheme where whereby they were supporting
crazy leftist ideas in foreign countries, or just lining the
pockets their own personal pockets by awarding friends and family
members these massive grants where bits and pieces landed and
increased their own personal wealth. Was so important because it

(26:01):
exposed this and it showed a shown a very clear
light on how the Left thrives in an unchecked, multi
layer bureaucracy, where we the average American citizens, we don't
have the time to dig in and think about, well,
who made the decision, or where did that money go,

(26:22):
or that money that was spent from the important initiative,
did it actually achieve its stated goal? Basic questions that
in the real world, you have to be able to
defend and explain in a variety of ways. Otherwise your
business isn't going to succeed or you're not going to
keep your job. But it's been a totally different case

(26:43):
in Washington, DC, and I think the Left is so
upset about it because that is their game plan. They
want to push these policies like the Green new scam
or you know, having a deal where Iran eventually gets
a nuclear bomb. They put in place these policies that

(27:05):
are so unpopular with the American people. They try to
circumvent constitutional checks and balances, and their favorite place to
do that is in a multi layered, unaccountable bureaucracy. And
President Trump, with the work of his cabinet members, is
totally breaking that wide open and undermining their favorite playbook.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Absolutely, that's what makes them so dangerous to these folks.
He's not part of the club and he's trying to
break the hold that they've had over the American people. Mandy,
I hate to because it still feels like we're barely
getting started, but we're almost out of time. So please
take an opportunity to let everybody know where they can
find the book. Let everybody know where they can find you.

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Feel free to share any websites and of course, if
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your handles and what platforms you can be found on,
anything like that you want to share, and now.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
Is the time, well, thank you for the opportunity. Yet,
the best place to get a book is either Amazon
or Barnes and Noble. Again, it's y'all fired, a Seven
Belt's Guide to Restoring Federalism and Draining the Swamp. And
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(28:22):
handle is at Mississippi mng.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
All right, Mandy, thank you again for coming back on
with us and spending some valuable time on a Friday
night with us. I appreciate it, and I know the
listeners do as well. God bless and I hope we
can get together and talk again some point down the road.

Speaker 8 (28:38):
Certainly, it's always great to be with you, all right, thank.

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You, ladies and gentlemen. That is, of course, Mendy good
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(38:20):
I still have way too much fun with that one.
By now, most of you have probably heard of and
maybe even have moved on from, what is known as
Operation Varsity Blues. This of course involved Felicity Huffman and

(38:40):
Laurie Laughlin, and it also involved our next guest. The
difference here is he was used as an excuse to
move this trial to Boston, and he was not.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Is the.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Guy that he was portrayed to be, So if you've
watched the Netflix special, you don't know what's going on here.
This man has literally been on a quest since this
first began, where he is fighting the three headed monster
of the Federal Government, Netflix and usc ALL in an

(39:26):
effort to do nothing more than to restore his family's honor.
Ladies and gentlemen, Please welcome to the radio show. For
the first time, he has joined us over on the
Rumble Channel. Before this, first time I'm here on the radio,
the author of Varsity Blues Scandal Within the Scandal, Please
welcome John Wilson. John, thank you for coming on with us.

(39:48):
I appreciate you joining me again and first time here
on the radio side of things. So welcome and how
are you today.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
I'm doing well, Tim, Thank you, and it's great to
be here.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
All right. I saw this news break the other day
and you literally were one of the first people that
I thought of when I saw this, when they made
the announcement that we've got John Brennan and we've got
James Comey that are now being investigated for will play

(40:24):
nice and say potential wrongdoing. They're certainly looking in exclusively
right now to the Russia Gate hoax. But it does
elevate us to asking the question of what's it going
to take to get the FBI and even the intelligence
agencies back on track to doing the work of the

(40:46):
American people. And in the case of the FBI, can
we actually get the reforms in place so that they
start doing the job once again of protecting the American
people and in particular protecting them from their own corruption
and the corruption of other parts of the government. Can
they be reformed? And I'd like to think the answers yes,

(41:09):
but can we get there so we can count on
them again? And you being through the things that you've
been fighting, I just you instantly came to my mind
because you left such an impression when you came on
the Rumble Show. I'm still getting emails and occasional phone
calls wondering when I was going to have you on again.

(41:31):
You really made a strong impression on that broadcast. So
I'm thinking to myself, I can't think of a better
person to ask about this. So what was your initial
emotions when you heard this announcement being made about John
Brennan and James Comey.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
I thought, thank goodness that there's some sensibility of really
starting to take hold at the Department of Justice and
in our criminal justice system overall. It's shocking to me
at how much prosecutors and the FBI can abuse the
system for their own purposes, whether that's political purpose in
that case, or whether it's personal career gain as was

(42:12):
in my case. The checks and balances on the Justice
Department are just too small compared to the abuse of
power that they're able to undertake, and we need real reform.
We need real, genuine reform, and I'm optimistic, probably for
the first time in years, that the new leadership within
the overall Justice Department might be willing to take some

(42:33):
hard steps to clean things up and to make some
real policy changes. And I personally got three or four
policy changes that I think I'll be putting in the
next version of my book that would help make a
real difference.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah, well, I'd certainly look forward to hearing those. Do
you want to talk a little bit about some of
that now or we're we saving those for the new book.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
No, I'm happy to talk about some of that now
because what the government did to me should never happen
to any American period. And the way they got away
with some of these abuses is just shocking. And I
do share a lot of that in the book, some
of the egregious abuses of power and privilege that they used.
And I'll give you one example that is high in

(43:15):
my mind of what change could really make a difference.
When prosecutors are interviewing witnesses, or even when they have
a cooperating witness, they never do recordings. It's prohibitive to
FBI policy. The FBI does not record interviews in preparation
sessions with any witness and so that allows them to

(43:35):
write down after the fact, in my case, three weeks
to a month later. But whatever they recall and whatever
favorable light, with whatever spin they want, took place during
that conversation. And that's just tragic because it can lead
to all sorts of abuse. And much like when the
Rodney King and other events happened in the past, and
that forced a lot of public pressure to videotape put

(43:59):
cameras on police officers, I think the same things should
be done in the case of white collar investigations with
the FBI and with the prosecutors, force them to record.
There's nothing more powerful than having transparency. And if they
had to record all of those conversations, then the truth
will come out about what was really said, by whom
and when. And it's just one small example, but it's

(44:21):
a very powerful one because when they're allowed to not
only intimidate witnesses, but then to reconstruct what was said
with their own narratives embedded in that, it creates a
completely unfair process and distorts the truth. And that's just
one small example of a change that I think could
actually take taking place with this new administration, it'd be

(44:43):
a very powerful change in our system. It's just one
small example.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Right, you know. It is a shame though, that we
are currently dealing with a version of the FBI where
this is something that needs to be done. And it's
even scarier when we think about the intelligence services, especially
the CIA. These folks are doing things that they know

(45:09):
are inappropriate and in some cases clearly in violation of
US statute, but the level of abuse that is so
easily done for them, and partially because there's even fear
of them from the folks who are supposed to have oversight.
We heard Chuck Schumer make the statement when Donald Trump

(45:31):
was talking about how the intelligence agencies need to be
brought back to heal, and of course Chuck Schumer said, yeah,
you mess with them, they'll mess with you whatever. Ways
to Sunday and other things. The one thing that was
a clear cut message from his statement, although I'm clearly

(45:52):
not quoting him directly, I'm kind of paraphrasing, but the
one thing that was made clear is that Chuck Schumer
didn't have the curve to stand up to them. He
was afraid of them, and in that situation. If a
setting leadership senator isn't willing to stand up and do
the oversight out of fear, what chance does a person

(46:16):
like yourself have in trying to fight and win and
correct the wrongdoings. I mean, not a lot of people
are capable of putting up the fight that you have,
and most of them aren't willing to because we've heard
it said quite a bit recently over the last few
years that the process is the punishment just as much

(46:40):
as anything else. And that has really been It has
been a very grueling fight where you're up against a serbus,
if you will, these three different aspects in a battle
to simply try to get people to acknowledge that you
are not who these people have perpetrated you to be.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
Yeah, and they literally were aware of the truth when
they were hiding it and actually making false statements to
the media and to the court system at every step
in this journey. And it just shocked him because not
only did they attack me I'm an adult, sure I
can take it, but they attacked my innocent children and
they knew that. To this day, they continue to call
my son an alleged athlete. My son had a world

(47:27):
record swimming when he was younger. He was on the
Oprah Show for that. He played at the national level
and water polo for six years. He swam for twelve
years at the national and international level. He joined the
UFC team, and his verified swim times proved he's one
of the fastest players on the team, and yet they
told the meetia he wasn't qualified. They told the meeting

(47:47):
he was an alleged athlete.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Think of what that did to my poor.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Son, who was just a college student at the time
when this happened, and they destroyed his you know, his
entire set of relationships, his entire sense of self war
which is geared toward him being an athlete. He spent
seven hundred hours a year for a decade training and
they call him an alleged athlete. They knew the truth,
and we know they knew the truth because during my

(48:11):
trial they blocked my evidence six hundred and sixty times.
Think about that wasn't just once or twice they blocked
his swim time. They handpicked a judge they're able to
judge shop and that judge overruled their evidence ninety eight
point three percent of the time. So things like my
son's verified swim times were not allowed in My twin

(48:32):
daughters had a perfect score on the ACT and a
ninety nine percentile. Only five thousand students out of one
point eight million get a perfect score, but that was
blocked from the jury by the prosecutors. So they knew
my children were qualified, and yet they said just the
opposite to the media and to the jury. And that's
the most despicable part of this thing, is not only

(48:52):
attacking me when they knew their attacks against me were false,
but to attack my children. My twin daughters were only
sixteen when they attacked them and lied about their capabilities
and about their credentials, and it's just, you know, shocking.
And as you said, I've taken this on. My wife
and I have taken this battle on to try to
clear their names, and we'll fight to our last breath

(49:12):
and our last penny if we have to to try
to correct the record.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Yeah, and I'm, for one, I'm very glad that you
are doing exactly that, because so many people would have folded,
would have just given in. It's hard to fight the government,
and you throw on top of that as a big
time money that Netflix has to throw around. You're having
to fight them too. You're looking at usc that they've

(49:40):
got plenty of money in their endowments, plus California taxpayer
dollars that are in play as well, and all of
this they had to do. They had to keep you
on this list of would be bad guys so that
they could justify have having this go on in Boston.

(50:03):
They could afford to lose you. They couldn't afford you
to not be one of the defendants.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
Right, Yeah, it was despicable. If you step back, you
think about this case, there were three dozen parents who
were doing certainly immoral, if not illegal acts. There were
many parents who were cheating on tests, who were bribing coaches,
and who were putting fake profiles together of their children.
And I don't condone that at all, and that's behavior
that I don't think it's a federal felony, but it's

(50:30):
certainly wrong, and the government went after those people, I
think with just cause. However, of singers three thousand clients,
that was only one percent. So Singer had three thousand
clients parent clients. One percent were bad apples. The other
ninety nine percent were innocent people like myself. In all
of Singers, three thousand clients, how many lived in Massachusetts.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
One me.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
The Boston prosecutors came across this case from a random
tip from somebody in Connecticut, and once they determined that
it had famous celebrities like Felicity Huffin and Lori Laughlin,
they knew this could be a career making case that
would have national media attention. There was one big problem.
All the defendants, Rick Singer, the colleges, everybody, were all
in California. So the Boston prosecutors needed someone in Massachusetts

(51:19):
to justify bringing all of the trials to Boston that
could help boost their careers. So they created a false
conspiracy that the appeals court overturned, and then they needed
one co conspiracer in that false conspiracy that they alleged
to be in Massachusetts to allow them to bring all
the trials there. So, if you go back to the
very core of this, they used me and my family

(51:40):
and treat this like collateral damage to help boost their
own careers and bring all the trials to Massachusetts. And
they knew I was innocent the entire time. They had
all the evidence of that, and they blocked it all
during my trial, So it really is quite a despicable
thing that they did, and we're fighting to correct the
truth or get the story out there, correct the record,
and to make sure it doesn't happen to anyone else,

(52:01):
because if they can do it to me, they can
do it to others. And I've been lucky, as you said,
I had the resources, I had the grit from my
background and grow up in a tough environment to fight
these guys. Most people don't. So as painful as this
seven year nightmare has been. I'm still fortunate that I'm
standing up and I'm still fighting. And in the end,

(52:22):
we actually were.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Able to prevail.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
We had to go to the appeals court, and the
appeals court undanisusly overturned all of my core convictions and
we won. And it took seven years and every penny
I've ever saved in my life, and it took all
the support and love for my family and our friends
and from our faith to be able to withstand this,
because fighting three goliaths the Federal Government, NETFLIX and USC

(52:47):
has been more than impossible, and we could have never
done it without our faith and our friends and our family.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Yeah, I mean, every time I hear you tell the story.
It just it just it hits me. It's so hard.
I'm almost left breathless because again, here you are. You
should be having the best time of your life, getting

(53:14):
to celebrate victories with your children. They have made accomplishments.
You're seeing that you have done the parenting job right
and maybe a little luck came along with it, but
even if that was the case, you still had to
do your part. And you you, you have this opportunity

(53:34):
to see your children do well. And then somebody who's
just desperate to get a headline, desperate to get a
step up in their job, just they swoop in and
they attack, knowing the difference. And I think that's part
of what lets us circle back around to the John

(53:57):
Brennan and the James Comy thing here, because they've done
some stuff that we were suspicious of for a long time,
and yet we see now that they may have crossed
the lines and they may not have covered their tracks
as well as they should have, and there does need
to be accountability, and this accountability needs to go all

(54:18):
the way down, including the prosecutors that have ever done
this kind of thing like what they've done to you, John,
because that is not justice. By any stretch of the imagination,
that is not what our system was designed or set
up to do. And anybody who's willing to personally corrupt
the system and weaponize it that way just so they

(54:41):
can try to get a promotion, or just so they
can try to do some fundraising and maybe elevate themselves
to a political career, whatever their idea, their plans, their
ambitions were, that's just not the way to go about it.
You should put your shoulder to the grindstone, but your

(55:02):
nose to the will here and work hard. If you
want to get the promotion, go earn it, and you
don't earn it by perverting the very nature of the
job you're supposed to do. I am so grateful that
you are working so hard, not just to restore your
family's honor, but to get this truth out, because it's

(55:24):
something that would be so easily swept under the rug
and so easily forgotten. I mean, I don't know anymore.
I was having a conversation about being excited, conversation earlier
today about being exciting to get to talk to you again,
and I did have one person say Varsity Blues. Wasn't

(55:46):
that a movie they had no idea what I was
talking about, and I had to go down the list.
And so it is vitally important that we don't just
let this go away. The truth needs to be revealed
because out it this kind of thing happens again. Accountability
can't come fast enough, and it certainly shouldn't be limited

(56:08):
to just a few folks at the top. Everyone that
willingly participated on things they knew were wrong to do
and hurt people along the way need to be held accountable.
Thank you so much for everything you're doing to try
to help make that a possibility.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
Well, thank you, and I appreciate it. And again, anybody
who wants to buy the book, I would appreciate it.
All the money goes to nonprofits, including a Foundation for
Legal Resources, a third party foundation to help support people
who don't have the resources to fight this kind of
injustice on their own. And I would encourage people to
read the book. You know, Varsity Blues the scandal. Within
the scandal, there are fifty shocking and extreme things that

(56:46):
the government did to me that should never happen to anyone,
and I would like to see that message get out there,
so hopefully make sure it doesn't happen again.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Please share the website and the best place is to
find the book, and if you're inviting people to follow
you anywhere on social media, please feel free to share
your handles and the platforms you can be found on
as well.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
Okay, the best place to go for information is the
website Scandal within the Scandal dot com, and the book
can be bought at any bookstore, but the easiest place
to go is Amazon dot com. And again, all the
proceeds go to charity, and we want to get the
message out there to not only clear our family's name,
but to do what we can to make sure that
the outrageous misconduct here doesn't happen again.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
All right, Well, thank you again for coming back on
with us, and I certainly hope we can get together
again sometime down the line and maybe even have a
few conversations about how things are getting better and weaponization
of our government is coming to an end. That would
be fantastic. God speak to you, John, and again, thank

(57:54):
you so much for everything that you've done, just by
your fortitude, your grit, and your willingess to stand up
against it's just such a wrong thing. It's just that simple.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Jim.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
All Right, ladies and gentlemen, that, of course is the
author of Varsity Blues. The scandal within the scandal we're
talking about mister John Wilson, and again I would highly
recommend it. If you guys are not going over and
checking out to tap into the Truth Rumble channel, please
do so. It is easy to find that particular visit

(58:32):
from John. You really need to hear him tell the
full story of exactly what transpired. I may try to
break that out into just a single segment and share
that in some other platforms. I think it's powerful enough
to do it, but if you haven't seen it, I
highly recommend you go and do that. It's phenomenal. And

(58:54):
I meanwhile, it's time for us to reset the hours,
so ladies and gentlemen, don't go anywhere as we're about
to die. I've headlong into hour number two and we'll
be doing that with Richard the Battle. Stay right where
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so very much
for staying with us as we've reset the hour, and
now we are indeed diving headlong into our number two
of the Friday night live edition of Tap into the Truth.
Glad to have you all here, and I certainly hope
that you're not having to suffer the way a lot

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of our friends and neighbors in the great American Southwest
are at this moment. It is my pleasure and honor
to welcome back to the show a man who is
a prolific author. In fact, his most recent release Americans
Who Made America nineteenth Century Growth, Division and Reunification. He

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joins us, Richard V. Battle. He is, of course, also
a public speaker, a political commentator, he's a business leader,
he's an educator, and if you've read enough of his books,
you know that he's not just a historian. He's also spiritual.

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get into the conversation. First and foremost, Richard, thank you
once again for being so generous with your time and
coming and visiting us for an hour on a Friday night.
How are you today, sir, Well, good evening, Tim.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Thank you so much for having us back with you,
and I appreciate the generous introduction.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Just speaking truth, because that's what I try to do. Sir,
I'm going to intentionally avoid, unless you want to focus
on one or two particularly egregious moments. I'm going to
try to avoid some of the politicalization, some of the
efforts to blame all office holders, some of the efforts

(01:04:02):
to turn reactions into race baiting or class baiting, and
I just want to focus on the tragedy and the
devastation and some of the heroic things that we have
seen and that has went on. You're about an hour
actually a little bit less away from where a lot

(01:04:24):
of this happened. What was it like just being that
close and seeing some of what I know you've bound
to have seen as a result some of these people
trying to get to safety. What's been your general reaction
initially to this tragedy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Well, obviously, it's very sad, very unusual for something of
this magnitude. And I was leaving Austin last Thursday morning,
going to Houston just as the torrential rain started in
the Austin area. And while they've put out some numbers
on television, to me, what's amazing is nearly every river

(01:05:09):
south of the Brazas. There's about seven rivers that have
all gone out of their banks. They've only showed the
flooding from the Guadalupe and the San Gabriel. But Travis
County we had flooding our lakes up over twenty feet
in the last three or four days. We had seven
people killed and ten are missing just in Travis County.

(01:05:31):
So there's about half a dozen counties that have a
loss of life and people still missing. So this was
a much broader event than even their showing on television.
They're in kerr County, which that was a horrific situation
because that storm basically came up from the Pacific Ocean
over Mexico. It was the remnants of a tropical storm,

(01:05:54):
and when it got over that Kerrville General area, it
just stayed there and spun and spun and spun and
poured rain out. So it was an extremely unusual event,
and I would like to join with what the governor
said earlier and emphasize it and it's not the thing
that happened, because tragedies like this will happen in life. Obviously,

(01:06:20):
we had a Galveston Hurricane in nineteen hundred that killed
six thousand people. We had a school explosion in nineteen
thirty seven that killed two hundred and ninety five kids
and teachers. So things are going to happen. The question
is how do we respond to it? And I think
our citizens and government at local, state, and national have

(01:06:40):
responded splendidly so far.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Yeah, yeah, I think that there is a little doubt
if a tragedy like this happens. There are a few
places that are fortunate enough to have the kind of
leadership that it can be dealt with and that the
least amount of pain can be inflicted upon the populace

(01:07:07):
because of the swift reaction and the solid leadership the preparedness.
Texas is one of those places. In general, there's a
few cities within the more population areas that I might
be concerned for the folks there, given the fact they
tend to want to vote in a way where they're
not quite as prepared, they dislike to spend a lot

(01:07:29):
of money. But that being said, there are places where
this would have been far, far worse for folks because
of what the reaction would have been. But like you said,
I'm even more impressed though with just civilians who have
stepped up and came in and done the things. And
we see this a lot here in the States, and

(01:07:51):
it's normally underplayed. There are a lot of heroic stories
that transpired here. One of the most impressive stories to
me is the gentleman who owned the camp that was
leading the headlines early on this girl's Christian camp camp
mystique I believe it is. You know, he he literally

(01:08:14):
lost his life saving some of the children that were there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
That level of sacrifice very heroic and and it's an
example of again the merit and the character of the
people that are in and around the area, which in
a lot of ways only intensifies the uh, the tragedy
that happens here. But like you said, these are things

(01:08:40):
that happen in life. They're unavoidable. Uh. And what we
need to do is put aside our differences and be
there to support in any way that we can. And
we'll get more into that aspect here a little bit later,
but it's just we we have to know that if

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there was a disaster here in Tennessee, we know that
our friends from Texas would be up here to help
in any way they could. You know, we've seen it before,
they've done it before, and it's the same thing our
friends in North Carolina that are still trying to rebuild
from the hurricane there. There's still a lot of folks

(01:09:22):
from out of state that are there because you know,
the local government there wasn't prepared to help and they're
still not in a position to do much. But it's
just the individuals, the character that literally the folks that
are right now today, the modern day Americans, if you will,

(01:09:44):
that are leading the way here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Well, yes, and leadership is the key. And as I'll
talk about, mediocre leadership will get you by in easy times,
but when the fur flies, you've got to have exceptional leadership.
And if we look at that particular angle of any situation,
when you see political leaders who have experience in real

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life and business and in things outside of government, they
usually will respond better than people who only have been
government employees, are in the government their whole careers, because
that's all they know. They don't have any experience outside.
And that's what's benefited us with President Trump, with our governor,

(01:10:29):
with our other leadership as well. We generally have people
who have experience in real life, and yes, We've been
very blessed. I believe in that the people that are
going to help are from all political walks of life.
Nobody talks about the politics of it on the ground,
and generally the only political criticisms that you hear are

(01:10:51):
from people who are just looking for their own political
power and who've generally never done anything else except try
to gain political power.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Yeah. I have to avoid that topic, Richard, because I
have been so beside myself with some of the things
I've heard and some of the statements. As a father
two daughters, there is something that is just so sickening

(01:11:22):
to see people say and do things that diminish the
lives of the children who were lost in that day,
and to ignore the grieving of the parents. But that's
part of why I'm trying to stay more positive on
the people who stepped up and who have been a
positive force. And like you said, a lot of folks

(01:11:45):
they do that. Again, that's part of what makes America
the great place to be that it is, and that
is we have this ability to put a political divide
aside in times of trouble, and for all the efforts
of the legacy media and all the efforts of certain

(01:12:06):
folks that tend to lean heavy, heavy, heavy, far to
the left. We're not as divide as they would like
for us to believe it, and events like this has
a way of pulling us together and helping us to
become stronger. And these communities is the rebuilt. They will
be stronger for it, and hopefully the rest of America

(01:12:27):
will be as well. But what are some of the
stories on the ground that you've seen personally or that
you've heard from folks that you know have seen it
that have really impressed you the most of just civilians
stepping up and helping out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Well, in addition to civilians all hitting just a second,
as you know, I lost my only son, And so
the stories of the people who've lost, especially the children
or who they haven't found their loved ones yet, the
stories of them coming out and how they are not
only focused just on their own losses, but they're focused

(01:13:06):
on trying to help others survive and get through this
event of what as well. And of course I don't
believe the shock is really worn off yet of the
moment and it won't really hit them until the next
week or so. Of the immensity of the loss that
they've suffered, but when they stand up like they've done,
to me, that's impressive and that shows the American type

(01:13:30):
attitude that we think so much of. But the stories
on the ground, and there was a real bad rumor
last week of them finding a couple of girls up
in a tree that proved to be false. But the
stories of people who saved individuals and lived and as
you heard the camp owner mister Eastland, who unfortunately lost

(01:13:55):
his life, but there were other people that went out
and put their lives on the line and sacrifice themselves
to help others. There was a young guy that was
worked at one of the camps and the last thing
he did was give his children, try to save them,
and then saving his children, he ended up losing his life.

(01:14:16):
And so there are many many stories like that, and
I think we'll continue to hear them, and to me,
those are the ones that we need to cherish because
they're the examples that we need in case we find
ourselves in those type situations.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Yeah, I mean there's a certain bitter sweetness to it,
but that is exactly what individual character and leadership is about.
You show up to just try to save you and
yours and then you find other people in need, and

(01:14:52):
you step up and you do it, and you take
these risks, and then you know the sacrifice is one
that there's there's no way to to effectively measure, and
it is something that I think people that are that

(01:15:14):
are just disconnected from the human aspect of the story,
which unfortunately there's way too many people falling into that category.
They just don't they don't get that aspect. So they
want to use it and they want to they want
to find a way to spin it and make this
about whatever their goals and agenda are, and again, that

(01:15:38):
is so antithetical to what actually has happened here. It's
astounding to me that that we have so much good
things going on, and yet if you are watching or
getting your news from certain legacy media outlets, you would

(01:15:59):
think that this was just a terrible thing and nothing
good has happened on the ground, and people need to
be held accountable for what's essentially an act of God.
And maybe there are things that could have been done
differently or could have been helpful. Hindsight is always twenty twenty.

(01:16:20):
But it's not about and you basically made this point before,
but it's not about pointing a finger. At this point,
it's about getting through the crisis and then evaluating how
we can avoid it in the future. How do we
go about making sure if this same event occurs, that

(01:16:41):
there's far less damage done, that lives aren't put at risk.
That's the evaluation process that should be going on. But again,
we have to count on actual leadership to get to
that point. But we shouldn't even be there yet right now.
On the leaders to lead and just be emotionally supportive

(01:17:05):
and you know, help out in whatever ways you could.
And that's one of the topics that I do want
to get to as well, because I know you've been
recommending certain organizations and we'll get into that conversation a
bit later. But it's just I don't know. I've always
find myself kind of searching for the right things to

(01:17:27):
say in a situation like this because I don't want
to come across as being too preachy. But at the
same time, I struggled to not get emotional here too,
because again, like I said, I do emphasizes much of
the way that you do. I would imagine that given

(01:17:49):
some of the non political books that you've written, some
of the spiritual messaging that you have helped deliver over
the time. Have you had folks calling on you specifically
to try to help them make it through what it
is they need to do in order to go help others.
Have you been actively engaged with other people that are

(01:18:12):
involved with the efforts here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Well, I've not been actively engaged in this event to
this point, but I have an other events. And one
of the things that I'll try to relate to people is,
based on my experience, is it's not what you say.
Being there's the most important thing, and sometimes it's better

(01:18:37):
to say less than more. And so something that hurts
somebody who's lost is people who come up and say, well,
I know how you feel. I lost my dog. I
love my dog, so I know how you feel. That's
not the same. I never tell anybody even though I've
lost a child. I never tell anybody that's lost a

(01:18:58):
child I understand and how they feel, because every situation
is different. What I say is I have an understanding
of what you're going through because I've gone through something similar,
and that gives more distance and more ability to let
them personalize their situation because it's not about me in

(01:19:20):
that situation. It's about them, and I want to be
there for them to listen, to be there to give
any answers to questions, but not to be too overtly
in that situation. And like I say, I think it'll
be another week or so before it really hits a

(01:19:40):
lot of the people who've already lost the loved ones
because of the shock and going through the process of
just going back to their regular day to day lives
without those loved ones.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know how they could
have even begun to process it yet. If you were
down near where the worst of the flooding and where
the worst of the damage is, so much of that
is so surreal. It's not that dissimilar to a few
years back, just up the road a piece, we had

(01:20:15):
an F five tornado come through, and the level of
just devastation where it had touched down, it didn't even
look like Earth anymore, let alone the community that had
been there in the areas it went. And it's not
that dissimilar looking when you see that. So there's such

(01:20:36):
a level of surrealism, and you know, there's also that
part where you're in shock with the other stuff too.
The human brain is a miraculous thing, and it has
all these self defense capabilities, and right now, in order
to just keep breathing and taking that next step, so

(01:20:58):
much of this has to be blocked out. I think,
not only are you right about it, but there's going
to be so much more need for the emotional support
coming soon, because there's just so much loss for a
lot of these people. And like you said, unless you've
been through it, unless you've lost a child, that's a

(01:21:19):
very unique type of pain. It's not natural, it doesn't
feel right. You know, the parents are supposed to pass
on first, and to have that occur, it's a time
where you not only need that community support and any

(01:21:42):
other type of family structure ready to be there to
help you to move on, but you've got to have
faith in these times too, or it can become a
very very self destructive thing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Well, I tell people, I don't know how anyone without
faith would go through and survive this type of situation.
And as I wrote in Surviving Grief years ago about
my loss, for the longest time, it was breath by breath.
I mean the pain, even though being a person of
faith and belief that I will see my son again,

(01:22:17):
even with that the pain of that loss and the
unexpected loss, which was very similar to this situation, was
that way.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
My wife at that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Time, we went to dinner with friends of mine that
had lost a son, and they told us, it said,
one of these days, you're going to feel like living again,
and the first day you feel that way, you will
feel guilty about it. And they were correct, and it
happened months later, but all of a sudden, one day,
life was more of interest than it had been for

(01:22:51):
months and months, and we did feel guilty. And so
these people are going to go through a lot of
emotional ups and downs over a long period of time
processing this and learning to live with that hole in
the heart of Like I tell people, I don't grieve
where my son is. I grieve where he isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's not something that I could
even imagine. It's just just trying to think of what
life would be like with one of my children gone.
It's I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Know how that until especially after World War Two, I
think our people were stronger and had better perspectives. They
still hurt and grieved, but more women lost children and childbirth,
more children died before they attained adulthood, so there was

(01:23:53):
more of an expectation that death might visit people. And
whereas now I think most of us in a first
world country like we have, we never expect to lose
a child, and so when it does happen, especially suddenly
and unexpectedly, it is just a shock to the system,

(01:24:14):
which is much more difficult even than if someone went
through an illness and passed because of that unexpectancy in suddenness.

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Battle.

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Most of you guys that are regular listeners know I
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It is that stuff I highly recommend now. With that
having been said, Richard, obviously right now there are a
lot of people who have been paying attention that want
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(01:39:01):
about it. I've been hearing people recommend going down. Did
you guys have enough bodies down there, hands on people
to do that kind of thing At the moment right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
There have been a lot of people down there, and
there's volunteer coordination in Kurville as well, And so there's
a registration on a website and you can Google search
that because I don't have the link right off hand,
and sign up and then go report and they'll assign
you different opportunities based on the needs for people that

(01:39:36):
want to go there. But I would not just drive
there without registering first. And I definitely would not drive
there just to be a LOOKI loo and drive around
to watch what happened, because there's still active searches going on.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
Yeah, that kind of thing. You're just going to get
in the way. And in some of the more devastated areas,
it's still dangerous just to be there, end up further
complicating the efforts that are on the ground because somebody's
gonna have to try to come save you. And yeah,
it's not a good idea to just head down uninvited

(01:40:13):
and unregistered. As you said, for the folks that do
want to do stuff, I understand you have made a
few suggestions here and there. Who are your recommendations of
places to contact for financial donations or for donations like
toilet papers, socks, things like that. Who do you recommend?

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
Well? And there's a lot of great people working, but
unfortunately there's been some scam artists and that's the reason
why that I have a couple that I would suggest.
There's some other ones as well. There's a group called
techs are tex SAAR. It's Texas Search and Rescue. A
friend of mine's chairman of the board of that organization,

(01:40:57):
been involved for many, many years. Every time there's a disaster,
they send teams out on search and rescue missions around
the state to try to help people. They're an excellent organization.
The Salvation Army in Kerrville is the designated site for
donations and so they're coordinating donations if somebody wants to

(01:41:21):
give money, and that'd be the number one place I'd recommend,
but another one. I think that's a terrific organization and
they're in there as well as the Samaritans Purse of
Franklin Graham, and they're a great organization also.

Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
I know last night over on the Rumble Channel, we
of course were talking about best ways to contribute and help,
and we mentioned the Samaritans person we also mentioned Mercury One.
I think that those are two great organizations where the
money is most likely to do the most good and

(01:41:59):
if you're donating something else still find the best way
and best places to get it to where it needs
to be. So I like those guys. Salvation Army is
always a good bet in being there in Curvel. That's awesome.
Techs are obviously something Texas based. Wasn't very familiar with them,

(01:42:20):
but I'm glad to have another recommendation. I will go
ahead and include links to all of these folks in
the show description if you're listening to the podcast later on.
Any final thoughts with where we are on this before
we kind of shift gears and maybe talk about at

(01:42:41):
least one other topic on the evening.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Well, I think as we've discussed about, I mean, this
was a horrific situation. It's horrible, especially because there were
so many children lost, but our history, our American people,
right to the occasion, we pick ourselves up and we
rebuild and go on even though we've lost those folks,

(01:43:09):
that people of faith have faith that they'll see their
loved ones again. And I think that's the thing that's important.
And we'll have other tragedies in the future that will
hurt us as well, and we just got to remember
that it's important what we do from this point forward,
because we can't change what has happened, but we can

(01:43:30):
change what will happen based on what we decide to
do going forward.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
Very well said Richard, very well said, and I thank
you for that final thought. Lots of other things going on, obviously,
and it's easy to lose sight of some other important stuff.
Is there anything in particular in the news that you
think is maybe being ignored because of other stories that

(01:43:58):
we really should spend a few minutes talking about tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
Well, I think there's some things that are going on
that are being reported about, but I think not all
the angles necessarily are being talked about. And what most
impresses me about President Trump's time so far is I
think he's much more proactively and strategically moving in a

(01:44:23):
leadership capacity that he did in the first term. I
think he was so bogged down with the opposition and
things that went on, he was in a much more
reactionary mode, whereas now I think he's had four years
and much like the builder that he is, where you
plan how you're going to build a building, I think
he has a plan of where he wants to take

(01:44:45):
the country and he is implementing it, and then that
gives him the platform to be able to be reactive
to situations like the Ukraine and Russia based on Zelensky
and put Newton's leadership issues. So to me, that's very
very interesting how he's doing that. I think he has

(01:45:07):
got a great team that he's put together, and they
are often running and so it has put the opposite party,
the Democrats, on their heels. And one of the things
is they're not used to play offense, the being on
offense because of their political power as well as having
the media behind them. But now that even though they

(01:45:30):
still have some of the media behind them, they're playing defense.
They're not like that, and it's exposing them for the
what I would call immaturity and the feelings versus the
thinking type situation. It's exposing that they've not had to
really prepare arguments against the other side because they could

(01:45:52):
count on the media, for example, to carry their water
for them. And so it's very interesting watching how they're
responding because they're responding like immature children who don't get
what they want.

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
Yeah. Yeah, I think a couple of very big, obvious
examples of that. Number One, we're seeing how quickly political
activist folks that are still calling themselves protesters are actually
moving towards terrorism and violence. We've had first responders and

(01:46:28):
law enforcement fall under coordinated attacks. But we also see
another example the same thing in a more civil area,
and that's with the Supreme Court. We just had Sonia
Soto Mayor basically call out Kaitanji Brown Jackson for kind
of embarrassing the other leftist ladies on the court because

(01:46:53):
she basically had to call her out and say, hey,
first of all, what you're talking about isn't even the
question before the court. And of all, while we may
also believe that orange man is bad, orange man bad
is not a legitimate legal argument, So stop embarrassing this
kind of thing. But the childish behavior from people like

(01:47:16):
Kitanji Brown Jackson aka Justice Brown Jackson, and people like
AOC and of course Jasmine Crockett and some of these
other people that are too busy saying things to stop
and think about what they're saying might actually mean, I

(01:47:38):
think are all prime examples of how desperate they are
to try to find that point where they can get
a grip and finally start pushing back and trying to
win something. They're desperate to find something to fight Trump on,
and nothing seems to be working, and it's further revealing

(01:47:59):
how childish they are. I think you are spot on
with that analysis that we just stayed examples left and right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
Well, that's correct, And I think that the left and
the Marxist they want violence, they want martyrs and It
was very similar in the Vietnam War. The protests didn't
end until the four kids at Kent State got shot,
and once that happened, that put an end to all
the protests. And I think the people who are quote

(01:48:27):
unquote leading from behind on the Marxist side of the
ledger wants somebody to get killed, and so they are
pushing people to be more and more violent, supplying them
the things they need, agitating from inside those crowd, working
on the emotions until that type situation happens. And I
think our law enforcement, in addition to doing a terrific

(01:48:50):
job ice all local law enforcement, etc. I think that
their restraint is so commendable because they recognize that if
there's a violence that comes, I think it's going to
come because they've just been pushed to the point that
they have to protect their lives.

Speaker 3 (01:49:09):
Yeah, and unfortunately some of them have already been in
that position. And what we're seeing though, again tremendous constraint
because like you said, that is what they're looking for.
The people that are pulling the strings that are leading
these would be martyrs around who think they're just peacefully

(01:49:30):
protesting until some snipers starts firing from the woods behind them.
I don't think half of them really recognize what it
is that the benefactors are really up to. But they
do want the imagery of the reaction. They want to
be able to capture on tape ice officers having to

(01:49:52):
fire back, and they want to they want blood and
gore on the streets, and they want to be able
to say, oh, look at what Donald Trump's Administration's done. Now,
look at what the Gestapo, look at what the Nazis
have done. Now, And in that effort, they're going to
further radicalize some people. But the problem is these people

(01:50:12):
are being led astray. And like I said, most Americans
I think are seen through this particular illusion, but there's
still some very vulnerable young people that are being led astray,
and that's very unfortunate. Unfortunately, it's going to take continued
restraint on the parts of law enforcement and continued effort

(01:50:35):
from communicators like yourself and communicating like here to hopefully
reach some of these people and help them realize that
they're being used and that being a martyr is not
so great if you're the bad guy.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Yes, and very similar and I think it'll play out
very similarly with the Vietnam War protests, people who came
in and protested the war, and some of them stayed
hippies and still were on the ultra left. Today we
see them. But then some of them woke up. And
the people that woke up and came back didn't just

(01:51:16):
come back to the center generally, once they found out
how they had been played. They came back much more
to the other end of being a conservative than it
did before. So I think there's some young people that
will have that experience also once they wake up and
see and so as we can use analogies in history

(01:51:37):
to share that here's where this movement's going, and here's
example of where it's happened in history. And the current
people are already using the age old excuse of socialists
and communists about well, the people that failed in the past,
they were different. We're going to do it differently, and
we're going to do it better, and we'll make it work.

(01:51:57):
And that's the same old song that so over and
over and over again.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
And yeah, it is amazing to me, though, Richard, how
this same playbook and how this same song from the
same page of the Leftist Heminal still gets so much mileage.
So many young people still the platitudes and the false
niceties of everybody just getting together.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
I mean, it does sound like a beautiful lie, but
it completely ignores human nature in and of itself. And
all you have to do is look at somebody like
Bernie Sanders, for example, when you have a man who
is literally been thrown out of a commune for being
too lazy, and yet he still espouses socialism, and he's

(01:52:48):
still a big fan of communism, even though he refuses
to admit that part. And yet at the same time,
he lashed out against millionaires until he became one, and
then billionaires, and he'll lash out against them until he
becomes one, if he's fortunate enough to get there. And
it's just so astounding that so many people keep buying

(01:53:12):
into it without recognizing that it is just a grift,
that it is just a con, and it's a latent
attempt for people who otherwise should have no influence over
anybody trying to control people's lives. It's critical thinking is
something we've really got to start teaching our children much

(01:53:33):
much younger if we're ever going to get past that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
I'm afraid, well, you hit something that to me, is
the number one most important decision for each of us
to make, and that is our feeling about human nature.
And the people on the left who believe in evolution
believe that humans have evolved. And so if you believe
humans have evolved, then Aristotle and the Greeks and the

(01:53:59):
Romans and all all the people in history, the wisdom
of the ages, Constitution, etc. Don't mean anything. They're living
documents because the people have changed, and that's the excuse
they use to change truth, to change all of the history.
But if we believe human nature is the same as

(01:54:21):
it was thousands of years ago, then we can use
the examples and wisdom of the ages to benefit our
lives because we're the same people.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
Absolutely well, Richard, again, thank you so very much for
coming on and being so generous with your time. I
always appreciate our time together. I especially appreciate it this month,
since you weren't available on Independence Day, and as it
turned out, Independence Day was a rather rough day for

(01:54:52):
a large percentage of your state. So again I appreciate
you coming on tonight and helping to give some perspective
that maybe folks aren't getting anywhere else. Thank you so
much for everything you do, sir. If there's anything upcoming,
anything scheduled, events wise, that you would like to share,

(01:55:13):
please feel free to throw that out there. And a
final closing thought for the evening, even if you're just
reiterating something you've already said, please take a moment or
two to share with the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
Well, we appreciate the opportunity to be with you and
your audience. The one thing that I overlooked earlier was
prayer is helpful. All the prayers are beneficial, and so
please pray for the people who've lost loved ones and
have missing loved ones, and for the people still working
volunteering out there to search for their health and safety

(01:55:50):
as well. We appreciate all of that anything any people
can do as well, and it's always our pleasure to
be with you, Tim. It's a great conversation, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:56:01):
Well, I feel the same way, and I'm very honored
to get the opportunity to have those with you, sir,
Ladies and gentlemen. That of course is mister Richard V. Battle.
And I'm gonna say it again. If you don't have
Richard V. Battle titles in your personal library, you have
a big gaping hole. Go take care of that. I
promise you will not regret having added the context in

(01:56:26):
the meanwhile, we're gonna have to wind things down today.
So I hope everybody out there has the best possible
weekend that you can under whatever circumstances you may be in.
So for some of you, maybe that's phenomenal. For some
of you, maybe it's just making it through. Either way,
our thoughts and prayers are with everyone, period. I love you,

(01:56:48):
and there's nothing you can do about it, even those
of you out there who think you hate me. Whatever, guys,
we're Americans here and I Meanwhile, if you don't like
the things I have said, okay, If you like the
things I've said but you question its validity, okay, don't
take my word for any of it. But please don't

(01:57:09):
take AOC or Jasmine Crocketts or Chucky Schumer's word for it. Either.
Go out there, do your own homework, be prepared to
put in some effort, and most importantly, use your brain
if you really want to tap into the truth. Have
a great weekend, everybody. Don't forget to come back and
see us next week with the DV.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
That's all, folks.

Speaker 6 (01:57:57):
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(01:58:21):
with your first reel twenty two.

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Speaker 6 (01:59:06):
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