Maryland Foster Care, Money and Liberty, & Ron Edwards

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So here's the deal, boys and girls. I had a
full slate of guests scheduled for today, and as often happens,
things happened. Our first scheduled guest today was supposed to
be Lucas Miles. He is currently the person who's heading
up Turning Point USA Faith, and uh, you know, I was,

(05:06):
of course wanted to talk to him a little bit
about the beast and of Charlie Kirk, and a little
bit about the difference between Turning Point USA Faith and
the standard on the college campus's Turning Point USA. And
of course I wanted to talk to him about his
brand new book that is out now available, Pagan Threat

(05:29):
Confronting America's Godless Uprising. I'm not sure it's necessarily pagan.
It's more just like political leftists and the morons who
Paul pray to them. But I'm sure he's concerned about
some Pagans as well. Now, Lucas, of course, I'm really
excited to get to talk to Lucas. I was looking

(05:52):
forward to it, and unfortunately stuff happened. So I found
out earlier today he wasn't going to be availab After all,
we're working on trying to reschedule. Hopefully that's the thing
that can happen. But rest assured Lucas was not the
only person we were planning on having hearing. Just a
little bit, we're scheduled to be joined by Rick Lynch.

(06:14):
He is the author of the new book Money in
Liberty and it's got a unique perspective on private property
rights and what the pounding fathers really thought about your
individual wealth. And in the second hour we are scheduled
to be joined by the purveyor of the Edwards Notebook,

(06:35):
the host of the Ron Edwards American Experience. Yeah, you
don't even have to guess at this point, we're talking
about Ron Edwards. Now, for you folks that are regulars here,
if you have a memory that lasts longer than a month,
you might remember Ron missed out on the opportunity to

(06:55):
join us last month. So our fingers are crossed. Hopefully
nothing else has come up. We've been in talks with
him earlier. It says it will be here. The funny
thing about that is we did the same thing last time,
so as is par for the course, Friday is Friday.
We'll see what happens. But in the meanwhile, you and
I we're gonna have a little conversation and worst case scenario,

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Oh no, I've getting some info here from Doug in
the control peddle. But you and I will be talking,
and worst case scenario will continue to have a conversation
because there's no shortage of things to talk about, no
shortage at all. We've got James Komi who's been indicted.

(07:42):
We've got a continuation of Donald Trump talking, trying to
raise the temperature and put additional pressure on Vladimir Putin
by now telling all the NATO countries that they should
shoot down any Russian or Russian allied aircraft that wanders
into your airspace, which most of the time isn't even

(08:06):
really a bad recommendation, just the kind of thing that
you should be concerned about. But I still wanted to
revisit a story that I've already talked about though, because
we'll be talking about these other things. The terrorist attack
by the random shooter guy that the Left wants to

(08:28):
pretend as a sniper on ice facilities. These are all
topics that I want to talk with Ron about, so
I'm gonna save those for later, and I'm going to
talk again about how Maryland's foster care programs have just
they're failing to provide their general services. Now, if you

(08:49):
heard Tuesday show, because this is when this news story
first came across my desk, I talked about it in
depth at that point, But this is something that seems
to be getting undercovered so many other things going on.
I get it, it's hard to keep up with everything.
The news is coming at you at a super fast pace.

(09:11):
The James Comy indictment yesterday caused us to have to
change up the Rumble Show. Last night, Christina Bob joined us,
and she had to shorten her time with us as
a result of that breaking news. I'm just very very
happy that she didn't have to fly out cancel. She
came on, we talked. It was good worth checking out

(09:32):
if you haven't seen it yet. But this thing continues
to set heavy on my heart with what's going on
in Maryland. You know, we're only about a year, year
and a half removed from having a conversation a by
a young girl who ran away from home, and in

(09:54):
the process of her running away, she she identified as
a boy. She was lured away by a sex predator.
She was kept hostage for a while, and she managed
to get away. She ran away from there, but she
still didn't go home. She ended up somehow in a

(10:15):
boy's home in Maryland. Because again she was identifying as
a boy. Everybody in the system knew she was a girl.
They ignored that fact. They let her identify how she
wanted to, and they put her in a boys home
where again she was sexually abused.

Speaker 10 (10:36):
There.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
She eventually escapes that, she runs away, ends up in Texas,
and thank god, the people in Texas had the good
sense to when they found her and realized that she
was out here on her own and a miner, they
tracked down her legal guardians and she ended up eventually
getting back home. Now, we talked a lot about that

(10:59):
story then, because the whole point here that the fine,
fine political apparati, which I'm sure is probably not even
a real word, but the fine apparati of Maryland would
allow this girl to not only not be returned home

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because the reason she ran away from home is because
her legal guardians refused to accept her identity as a boy,
so they wouldn't even allow her back home, but they
put her in a place where her personal security was
at risk, all in the name of protecting the agenda,

(11:45):
the same agenda that now has people lining up and
shooting at law enforcement, that has people lining up and
shooting at folks like Charlie Kirk the violence level. You know,
Richard c. L was on this show with us, and
the earlier this year was the last time he was

(12:07):
with us, and it had been a bit of a gap.
He came on several times the year before, but the
last two times he was on with us, the idea
of political assassinations being on the rise and how it
was going to start showing up here in the States
was a topic that came up more than once. In fact,

(12:27):
it was the primary point of discussion the last time
he was here with us. Reached out was kind of
hoping that he might be able to come on with
us as early as tonight to fill the empty spot,
but we weren't able to make that happen either. Read
that's neither here nor there. The point is well informed

(12:47):
people who simply think about what's going on, looks at
the reality, sees what's happening. You can see the playbook.
The left still refuses to acknowledge what's going on. You
literally have people like Hillary Clinton going on Morning Joe
and talking about how we've got to stop demonizing people.

(13:10):
But it's mostly the right that's doing it. Pump the
brakes there, Hillary, And I'm not exactly if you haven't
seen it, I'm not exaggerating and I'm not making it up.
She literally said we've got to stop pointing fingers, that
we've got to stop demonizing each other. She also said

(13:30):
she counts herself among this. She she paused long ago,
so then I guess she did it to make a point.
But she literally says, we've got to stop deeming each other.
But at this point in our history, it's most this
point in our history, it's mostly the right. Literally just
transition from one to the other, could not even let

(13:50):
the paint drop. But then we see that this is
the kind of thing that is part of the planet.
It's not a bug, it is the feature. And this
is made clear when we look at the audits from
the Maryland General Assemblies Department of Legislative Services, when they
took a look at the foster care system currently ongoing

(14:14):
in Maryland. They found pervasive problems, that's them being diplomatic
problems that included the fact that up to thirty eight
percent of the foster children aren't going to school, despite
the state claiming that in his database that virtually all

(14:35):
children were in school. You know, they're sending out the
tax dollars to the schools as if every kid anywhere
and everywhere is going, but thirty eight percent of the
foster kids aren't. In one particular case, Maryland claimed to
have reviewed a group foster home all the way back

(14:57):
in the ancient ancient times of twenty twenty three, but
didn't flag that it was employing a man who had
been convicted of sexual assault on a minor in twenty fourteen. Oh,
you know, twenty fourteen to twenty twenty. That was almost

(15:18):
ten years. Why would that still be relevant three months
after bungling the review this particular sex offender in question. Well,
he allegedly, and we're using the air quotes here, I
works really well for radio, but allegedly transported three foster

(15:44):
children for and again they were diplomatic here inappropriate activity
and as a result of that, was charged with crimes
involving the children under his care. Now, they wouldn't get
any more specific than that. So maybe he took the

(16:07):
kids out drinking. Maybe he took the kids to go
buy drugs. Maybe he took the kids to a biker bar.
I don't know. But if we're talking about a sexual
predator and various other questionable moral character frames, I'm wondering

(16:28):
if maybe it wasn't something like that. But even after
this guy gets charged with the crimes involving the children,
the Maryland Department of Health and Human Services, their social
services administration, they could not document any corrective action as
a result of the incident to ensure that the criminal

(16:53):
background checks were in fact being obtained. In other words,
oh we let one guy slip through the cracks. Let's
look and see if we're doing our background checks. Looks
like we haven't been doing any background checks. Well, we
better fix that problem. We're gonna do a corrective action.

(17:14):
We're waiting for it. Okay, what's the corrective action. We
don't know, because nothing was actually done. Nothing you get
you're literally being caught ignoring the rules. Then nothing happened. Now,

(17:38):
of course there's some politicians now that are getting win
of this, and they're demanding that Governor Wes Moore should
immediately fire someone, should immediately fire a lot of people, evidently,
maybe even fire the previous auditors. Because if you're finding

(17:59):
this stuff that's wrong, and then you're waiting for corrective
actions and no corrective actions are coming, why is not
something being done. Auditors were able to detect what the
social service agencies did not by simply comparing hang onto

(18:22):
your Socks the Sex Offenders Registry with a list of
foster homes. The auditors took the time to look at
the registry and then they noticed the addresses were overlapping. Now,
I'm sorry, why did the sex registry folks not pick

(18:42):
up on this? I mean, is that not part of
being on the list that you have to maintain a
certain distance from locations that are likely to presume the temptation?
I have to stay away from schools, have to stay

(19:03):
away from churches, have to stay away from ice cream
parlors and toy stores. Isn't that part? How is living
in a foster care house not actually worse than living
next door to a school. So again, how is it
that the auditors simply look at the registry and compare

(19:28):
the addresses, and that's all it took.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
You can't tell me that somebody somewhere that oversees the
freaking registry list didn't realize something was going How did
somebody not pick up on this? Again, they clearly didn't care.
One individual convicted of sexual misconduct with a minor had

(19:58):
the same address as as a guardianship home with four
children between the ages of four and eight. SSA said
they weren't aware of it. They were not aware of
any individuals until the audit provided them the information with
the search results. County social service agencies are responsible for

(20:26):
performing background checks at most foster homes, while the state's
Social Services Administration, well, they're responsible for ensuring that the
background checks have been completed. County agencies they may have
failed to do so as much as half of the time.

(20:48):
And then SSA appears to simply rubber stamp whatever paperwork
came across their desk, whether it was correct or not.
They didn't care. It was like the Biden administration releasing
the unaccompanied miners. I'm pretty sure this guy has no
legal claim of guardianship. Whatever he wants to sponsor the kids. Yep, ah,

(21:14):
let them loose and do not follow up. That's why
Donald Trump right now has the administration looking to find
all these missing children there. But these aren't unaccompanied miners,
boys and girls. These are kids who have fallen into
the foster care system. These are kids who literally are
at the mercy of the state for whatever reason. And

(21:37):
the fine fine folks and social services in the great
state of Maryland are still showing that they would rather
virtue signal than stand up and do their job for
twenty five seconds that it takes to verify one of
these pieces of paper going across their desk might look

(21:57):
like it's incomplete. Heaven forbid. The SSA also did not
have a procedure to ensure that criminal background checks were
obtained for vendors that provided one on one services to
foster care children and hotels, which is something that not

(22:20):
every state does. They don't keep foster kids in hotels.
Evidently Maryland found a new creative way to spend taxpayer dollars.
So hey, good for that. Hundreds of foster children were
placed in such hotels under the supervision of providers that

(22:41):
were not licensed and oh yes, it was expensive. You
are correct. I know I could hear all of you.
That sounds expensive. You are correct, twelve hundred and fifty
nine dollars per day, even though the highest approved rate
for the treatment Posture Care was two hundred and eighty

(23:06):
one dollars, meaning that somebody was bilking the system. They
were overcharging a lot of overcharging again, two hundred and
fifty nine dollars a day for several and the highest
amount that had ever been approved, meaning all of these

(23:27):
approvals were done on an independent, one on one basis.
The highest dollar amount that was approved, according to the
audit was two hundred and eighty one dollars. That's nearly
a thousand dollars more than what was allotted for the
highest There were a lot of folks approved for much,

(23:47):
much less. During the fiscal year of twenty twenty four,
Maryland County Social Service agencies received seventeen thousand allegations of
abuse and neglect. Many of the counties were massively late
in investigating the allegations, but SSA did not report child

(24:08):
of use and neglect investigations that were not completed within
sixty days to the General Assembly, as required by state law.
Also discovered by the audit. Why well, the Social Services
Agency offered a questionable series of excuses for the delayed investigations,

(24:31):
including a natural disaster that occurred between February of twenty
twenty four and September twenty twenty four, even though no
one could point to a natural disaster in the region
during that time period. Now I did a Google search. Well,
now it wasn't a Google search. I don't use Google,

(24:51):
but just so you understand, that's the general terminology. I
did a search. I even asked an AI what nature
disasters happened in the state of Maryland between February of
twenty twenty four and September of twenty twenty four, which
is a pretty big gap to be looking for one
natural disaster to hold things up. Now turns out there

(25:12):
was a tornado and then there was some flooding one day,
and it wasn't in the same regions. The biggest thing
that the AI pointed out is there also was a drought.
I don't think a drought would slow down an investigation.

(25:37):
Now I can see maybe a tornado, but it doesn't
account for all of this. So again, another series of excuses.
This is why we didn't do this. Now, the fall
secure system pays people to take care of children, but
Maryland's agency made I wanted to say little effort initially,
but I'm starting to think I should say made no

(25:58):
effort to make sure that this money didn't go to
people who were just mistreating the children or even had
foster children. Yes, that's right. According to the audit, there
were people claiming to be fostering children that were getting
money that had not hadn't had a foster child I'm

(26:19):
looking here, not quite a decade, but still was getting
the money. Why there was evidence that some people getting
paid to raise foster children were not meeting their basic obligations.
In other words, they were getting the money and then
the kids were on their own. Some of the children
hadn't received medical care, dental exams in some cases as

(26:43):
for as long as seven years. Now, as I'm quickly
moving towards the end of this segment, I'm going to
have to wrap up the details here, but i want
to make it clear we're seeing why we can't trust
the left to even meet us in a non partisan

(27:04):
fashion on the question of protecting our children, because in
their minds, the children are an inconvenient cog. There's something
that's in another obstacle, that's in the way they want
to They want you to freaking I'm trying hard not

(27:26):
to go too far over the top. They want you
to sacrifice your children even before they're born, and they
want every other child to be sacrificial because in their
minds it doesn't matter. There's no effort on the part
of the political left, whether we're talking the state of

(27:46):
Maryland or any other part of the world, there's no
effort to protect children. Children are just there for their amusement,
their pleasure, their joy, their deviant behaviors, and for sacrifice.
I for one, can't stayed anymore. Maryland was the one
that got caught red handed here. Maryland is not the
only place this is a problem. We'll be right back

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after this brief break.

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happy to have first timers to come and join us,
and hopefully we make a good enough impression that they
will come back. He is a retired federal speech writer
and he's been hanging around the swamp in the DC

(37:54):
for a very long time. He has written for senior
officials and agency while very quietly. He's also been a
scholar thirty years of personal research into the intentions of
the framers of our constitution. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome

(38:16):
the author of Money in Liberty, mister Rick lynch Rick.
Thank you so much for joining us tonight. And before
we get started on anything else, on a personal level,
how are you today?

Speaker 6 (38:28):
Oh, I'm very good, very good. How about you.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
I'm doing pretty good. Looks like we're going to have
a pretty decent weekend, And I certainly have nothing to
complain about in the moment. And even if I did,
I still feel like I'm too blessed to really get
into all of that. So thank you for asking. All right,
let's get into it. Money in Liberty, Money in Liberty.

(38:55):
You make some very interesting points in so much as
I don't think a lot of peop people really think
about the role individual wealth plays in your ability to
protect liberty, and your contention has a lot to do
in the premise of the book that the idea wasn't

(39:16):
just about the principles, It wasn't just about the freedom,
but it was also about private property and individual wealth.
We hear the quote quite frequently that they swore their
wealth and their sacred honor, and they did that at
a time when it meant something, and they really were

(39:39):
at heavy risk when they did this. But I still
I like the fact that somebody's taking the time to
go back and look at this and pointing out that
it is more in depth, because we tend to ignore
what private property rights means in modern America. So I'm
going to stop babbling so much, and I'm going to
give you a two and to tell us a little

(40:02):
bit about what led you to write the book, and
you can correct anything that I might have gotten a
little wrong there.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
Oh well, thank you, thanks, thank you. No, actually you
did say anything that was incorrect, so that's good. How
I came to write the book? By the way, I
was going to hold the book up, but I don't
even know is this an audio.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Format or video or it's audio? It's audio?

Speaker 6 (40:26):
Oh, audio only? Okay, very good, but no, you know
what the other thing? I should stop yelling. I think
I'm yelling. How did I come to write the book?
There's a little story behind that. I was in a
classroom in Houston, Texas, taking I believe it was American
political thought about thirty years ago, and we were reading
from the book The People Shall Judge. And that book

(40:50):
is really nothing more than thousands and thousands and thousands
of quotations from various people that inform the American political
philosophy going back to the sixteen hundreds at least. And
clearly there are lots of quotations from the founders and
the framers, and that's by the way, that's two totally

(41:12):
separate groups of men and people always conflate the two,
always confused the two. But that's neither here nor there.
But I'm reading all these quotations over and over and
over and over, and there was this burning obsession with
property coming through. And I was of the opinion at
the time that property meant land, and I found that

(41:33):
all a little disappointing. I will go into all my
thoughts about that, but my life changed. And the genesis
of this book is when the professor held up his
hand and he held up his index finger and he said,
remember money is property. And well, I've been obsessed and
fascinated by the idea ever since. And that's really the

(41:55):
genesis of this book.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Well, again, like I said at the top, a lot
of people tend to overlook that the framers were concerned
about your ability to keep what was yours. They were
concerned about taxation, of course, that was kind of the
the edifice that started the whole revolution, but they were

(42:20):
also concerned about debt. A lot of a lot of
folks now will throw out the phrase that debt is slavery.
And in a lot of ways you can make a
philosophical argument that that's true you once you no longer
are working purely so that you will have things when
you start working for the benefit of others. It's only

(42:44):
somewhat metaphorical, but there is a heavy truth to it.
How concerned were the Framers about individual debt?

Speaker 6 (42:54):
Well, the property itself will will start with property itself,
then we'll get to debt.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (42:59):
There was one author who wrote, and oh boy, was
he correct. He wrote that the Framers almost always speak
of property in starkly religious tones. Another author noted that
they had an almost religious respect for property. You can
strike the word almost. It was nothing almost about it.

(43:20):
The Framers believe that, just exactly and precisely like your
right to self defense and your right to free speech,
the right to keep your property comes from God. There's
nothing almost religious about it. Now, of course, I have
to throw in. Taxes are legitimate. They're entirely legitimate. If
you want to rise about the dreaded state of nature

(43:43):
where human structs. I'm sure you've heard that life is nasty, brutish,
and short. You must have government, and you must pay
for it. Taxes are legitimate. However, that doesn't mean it's
okay to take my money and send it to Sri Lanka,
to teach journalists in Sri Lanka how to use non

(44:03):
offensive language when they write newspaper articles. You know, people
think that their property rights, you know I have. I'm sorry.
There's speech rights. Yes, I can say that the government's terrible.
But I can't pull up in front of the old
folks home at Sunday three am with a sound truck
and a bullhorn and say the government's terrible. People believe

(44:26):
that your speech rights can be infringed only minimally and
only when absolutely necessary. And there seems to be this
thought in the land that your property rights your money.
They can take your money all day, every day, for
any reason whatsoever, period, and it's legitimate. People will say
that taking your money and sending it to Sri Lanka
is ridiculous, wasteful, stupid, outrageous, laughable, pathetic, funny, but very

(44:51):
few people will describe it the way the Framwer's described it,
and that is as an assault when your god given rights.
As far as debt goes, I urge your listeners to
start googling the paper money crisis. Here's something else that
I've never met anybody who was aware of this. The

(45:12):
US Constitution came into existence was written because of the
paper money crisis. The anti federalist say as much. James Madison.
Just before the convention, James Madison wrote an essay called
Vices of the American Political System, and these vices were

(45:34):
is what led to the calling of the convention. He
listed twelve vices, paper money, and we'll get to the
details in a minute. Paper money was only one of twelve,
but it was the first one he listed, and it
took up twelve hundred of the thirty one hundred words
of the essay, more than the third of the essay.
It was dedicated to paper money. It was clearly what

(45:57):
he was most obsessed with. And paper money is a
welfare program, America's first welfare program. And it came about
because the people in debt, very simply in the various states.
Now the British that have been gone for six years,
we beat the British that are gone. We're still living
under the articles of Confederation. And in a whole bunch

(46:18):
of the states, Rhode Island especially, people in debt, almost
always farmers go to their state legislatures and they say,
please print paper money, because we owe all of our creditors.
We owe them, and the contract says you will pay
in gold and silver coin, but you know what, that's expensive.

(46:39):
Please pay print paper money for us, and we will
pay off our debts with this nearly worthless paper money. Now,
in any given state, you have one hundred thousand farmers
and only ten creditors. So the state legislature said, oh yeah,
we'll do that for you, no problem. And then the
creditors say, well, we're not taking this paper money, so okay,
we'll pass another law saying that you acceptance of the

(46:59):
money is mandatory. So then the creditors, especially in Rhode
Island again actually flee the state. They leave their homes
to avoid taking the paper money, and the Rhode Island
legislature passes yet another law saying, okay, well you've left
the state. Farmer John, all he has to do is
walk into a bank, leave the worthless paper money on

(47:21):
the counter, take out an ad in the newspaper saying
I've paid my debt, and then the debt is abolished.
The reason that the US Constitution was written the reason
and again I know it's an extraordinary claim, but thank
God for Google is the paper money crisis? Madison said so,

(47:41):
the anti federalists said so. And at the convention, I mean,
all they talk about is paper money. It's every single thing,
from tiny things to huge things are decided on paper money.
For example, candy. People in the various states even be
trusted to pick their own federal representatives in the House

(48:02):
of Representatives? Can they be trusted to do that? Or
the should the state legislatures do it? And that question
was decided on whether or not allowing the people to
pick their reps had resulted in paper money or not.
That's a huge question. A minor question was what constitutes
a quorum. You know, you got ten reps? How many
reps have to be in the House chamber before a

(48:24):
vote can actually go forward? Two reps? Nine reps. Again,
they referred to paper money. Randolph stood up to the
convention and said, you know what, in Virginia, requiring a
whole bunch of people to be there resulted in a
paper money bill being killed. So I just don't know
how to say it more clearly. Over and over and

(48:46):
over and over again, questions are decided on whether or
not something had led to paper money. Sob debt is
the reason we have a US Constitution, if you want
it on important that was, That's the reason the Constitution
was written because the people in debt doing crazy, bad things.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
You know, it is amazing to stop it and think
about it, because we certainly don't hear it. Very few
historians preach this, and I suppose part of that is
because we want to get behind the high minded principles
of liberty and freedoms and the guarantees.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
And oh, I'm so I don't mean to cut you off,
but I am so glad you said that. Chapter one
of my book discusses that very thing. I don't know
if you know this. I don't know if you've read
the book. I know if you don't even read.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
A word of it.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
But chapter one deals with the fact that and this
will come as a great shock to your listeners I suspect,
and many of them will probably turn it off. Turn
the radio off right now. But at the Constitutional Convention,
late in the game, somebody put forth the proposal to
attach a Bill of rights to the Constitution. Now, I

(50:04):
don't know, again, I don't know if you know this,
but the Bill of Rights had nothing whatsoever to do
with the Framers of the Constitution. If the Framers had
written the Bill of Rights, then the ten amendments to
the Constitution would not be amendments at all. The Framer said, no,
this is a very bad idea, this Bill of rights
that you want to want to write, and I think,

(50:26):
I think this might come as a shock. The reason
that the Bill of Rights, the Framer said it was
a very bad idea and refused to put one in
the Constitution. The Bill of Rights came three and a
half years later. The reason the Bill of Rights is
a bad idea, they said, is because we the people
have thousands and thousands and thousands of rights. If you

(50:46):
attempt to write a list of our rights, like the
Bill of Rights, the list will never be big enough.
You will create the impression with a Bill of rights
that those rights that you listed are all the rights
that you have. And you're right. You look at the
first you know ninety nine point nine percent of Americans

(51:09):
they know the First Amendment, and the First Amendment only period,
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, you know, the big
three of the First Amendment. Now, the Framers agreed with
those rights. They agreed with them passionately. They thought those
were wonderful rights. But you've got so many more rights,
and the chief chief amongst those is your right to

(51:30):
keep your money. Money is what makes you free. Money
is what gives you power. And you're right. In this
day and age, Americans go around, oh, freedom of speech,
freedom of the press, freedom of religion, all these high,
fallutine things that you know, at the end of the day. Well,
at the end of the day, the American Revolution was

(51:51):
about the Talision Acts, the Sugar Act, the Stamp Act.
The American Revolution was about money, money, money, and money.
Every single time. The Constitution itself was written about money, money, money.
As John Adams said, the moment the idea is introduced
into society, that property and again that's your paycheck. That

(52:12):
property is not as sacred as the laws of God.
Anarchy and tyranny commence at the convention. This welfare program,
this paper money welfare program, is described by one delegate
as quote alarming as the mark of the beast. In revelation,
John Adams had another great quotation talking about if we

(52:33):
were to live in a pure democracy, which clearly not.
If we lived in a pure democracy and everybody just
got to vote on everything all day, every day. He said,
you would find that your property, your money, would be
as the Lamb committed to the world. You may or
may not know, that's a straight Biblical quotation, and in

(52:54):
that Biblical quotation the lamb committed to the world, the
lamb is Jesus Christ. In John Adams telling the Lamb
is money. I just don't know how to make it
more clear that, yes, the Framers believe in the right
to free speech, the right to the free press, the
right to worship as you choose. But for the Framers,

(53:14):
your money was a burning obsession.

Speaker 9 (53:17):
It was just it was everything.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Well, I mean, these were some of the smartest people
of their time, and you can make a strong argument
that their intellect still stands out even today. They understood very,
very readily that your ability to maintain your wealth was
directly proportionate to your ability to enjoy and express your liberties,

(53:47):
to experience them, to exercise them. There is no question there.
I do think that it's still kind of shocking to
hear it put in these terms, because it definitely is
a shock to the system. People are there. But we've
talked frequently on the show about how it was in
fact one of the biggest arguments between the federalists and

(54:10):
the anti federalist about having a bill of rights at all,
because the way I have put it in the past,
if you were going to make a list of all
the rights we have, in the eyes of the Framers,
they would still be working on that list today.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
That's exactly right, and that's very well said, and that's
the reason and the exact reason the Framer said no
to a bill of rights. They had a better idea.
And I'm sure you know from what you just told me.
The Enumeration was there much much better idea. Instead of
writing a tiny little list wherein you find your rights,
I call it a bill of very few rights. Instead
of writing that tiny little list where your rights are listed,

(54:45):
they wrote a tiny little list called the Enumeration. And
in the Enumeration you find the powers of the federal government.
Anything not on that list belongs to you. And clearly
in the Enumeration there's no right to take your money
to send inter strem Lanka. There's no right to a
press free speech, and no right to oppress the press.
There's no right to take your guns. The Framers had

(55:06):
a much better idea. If we'd have gone with the
enumeration and not tacklem the Bill of Rights. We'd have
one hundred billion rights, not just whatever's in the Bill
of Rights. We'd have every single thing listen in the
right in the Bill of Rights, plus a whole lot more.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Well, Rick, I hate too because I feel like we're
just really getting started with the conversation. But we're just
about out of time, So I want to give you
an opportunity to have a closing thought. Please let everybody
know where they can find your work. Feel free to
share any websites you'd like to, and if you're inviting
people to follow you anywhere on social media, you're welcome
to share handles and platforms as well. And then we'll

(55:44):
say our final goodbyes.

Speaker 6 (55:46):
Very good, thank you. The best place to find me
is Rick dash Lynch dot com and the book is
available anywhere and everywhere Amazon, Kindle, et cetera. The book
is called Money and Liberty. How the Framer's Obsession Try
it again, How the framer's obsession with protecting your money

(56:07):
shaped the Constitution?

Speaker 3 (56:12):
All right, well, Rick, thank you so much for coming
on and helping to enlighten us with a little bit
of I think is fair to call almost forgotten history.
God speak to you, sir, and hopefully we can get
together and continue the conversation a little further down the road.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
Thank you, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity.
I sincerely want to thank you. It's a wonderful thing.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
You're very welcome. I appreciate it. Anytime anybody who is
dedicated to history is willing to help to make sure
that Americans truly understand our heritage so they know what
we're fighting for in our future, I greatly appreciate it.
Have a great weekend, all right, ladies and gentlemen. That

(56:54):
was mister Rick Lynch. And for those of you that
are listening to the podcast after the fact, there will
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(57:17):
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If you can't remember what Well said, or you know,
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click the links in the description. Anyway, I think it's

(57:41):
time for us to take a deep breath, to reset
the hour, and hopefully on the other side, be joined
by one of America's great patriots, Ron Edwards. So you
don't go anywhere, we will be right back. I promise
you're listening to Tap into the.

Speaker 6 (57:58):
Truth somewhere, somewhere and some.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Again.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
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(59:38):
host of Tap into the Truth.

Speaker 9 (59:44):
But I guess that doesn't got in.

Speaker 11 (59:51):
I almost wist you one in the me too.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Alright, le es and gentlemen, thank you so very much
for staying with us as we now dive headlong into
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Thank you so much. I do appreciate it in ways
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(01:03:27):
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How are you Today's are You're perfect?

Speaker 8 (01:04:07):
Thank you for inviting me back, and it's glad to
be here. It's always a joy to be on your show.

Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Well, I appreciate that because that means I'm doing something
right too. It's been a minute since we got together
on air, and obviously some tragedy has befelt our nation.
But before we delve into the realm of domestic terrorism
involving ice shootings and the loss of Charlie Kirk, I

(01:04:38):
did want to start off actually talking about something that
I'm actually excited about, and that is the possibility at
least we're on the road to it. I'm not holding
my breath necessarily, but I am excited at the fact
that one former head of the FBI by the name
of James Comy has been in die did forferjury charges.

(01:05:02):
So let's start right there, Ron, What was your initial
thought when you first heard the news yesterday?

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Literally?

Speaker 8 (01:05:10):
My first thought was oh, happy day, literally, and in
fact I posted that as part of a little bit
of expression on Getter, but.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
I you know, I was. I said.

Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
It's also said it's about time, and it's so funny
because going on two years. These QAnon believers that I
know good friends, but you know, sometimes they're in the
brain and they've been telling me that people like comy uh,

(01:05:53):
Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden all.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Dead and we're just dealing with Clinton UNEs.

Speaker 11 (01:06:03):
And so.

Speaker 8 (01:06:05):
I would tell the guy, if that's true, if these
if those people are dead and we're just being screwed
over by clones, that is a bigger insult. I'd rather
have the real deal and we take down the real
deal or not and be done with it. And they
would say things like, Ron, you're just watching a movie.

(01:06:26):
You don't understand. You weren't in the military, so you
don't understand warfare. I said, no, I wasn't in the military,
but I did spend a lot of time with folks
in the military, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
Et cetera, et cetera. They thought so highly of me at.

Speaker 8 (01:06:41):
A particular event in Michigan, they asked me to sign
their parade guns. So I do know a little bit
about war and things of that nature through reading and studying.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
And never have I.

Speaker 8 (01:06:56):
Seen tim that part of warfare, at least in our
juncture of life. Has there been clones yet? And why
would you need clones? If you're going to take down
the real thing and be done with it. And so
with all that stupidity out of the way, I went
back to reality, thanking God that this guy is finally indicted.

(01:07:18):
But he's pretty cocky. I don't know if you saw
his response to all this. And there's something we need
to watch out for the trial when it occurred. When
it happens, is going to a I think it either
a Biden or an Ali Obama appointed judge, so that
we have to be concerned about.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
And you know what they usually do to criminals for criminals.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 (01:07:41):
And so he's very, very cocky about the entire situation.
And unfortunately I was listening to Judge Napalmatano on this.
Now I understand Napalmatano is a liberal, and so he
always explains on whatever the issue is, he only explains

(01:08:02):
how the evildoers have ways of getting out of the
trouble and we're wasting our time and this, that and
the other, and you know, libertarians are like that, and
so I just you know, that kind of took a
little of the win out of my sales. But you

(01:08:22):
know this, you know, and they did it just in time. Tim,
you know, the Statute of limitations was right there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Next and next Tuesday, Yeah, literally next Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:08:36):
So Tim, I don't know, man, it's I'm happy it happened,
but I have a wait and see attitude because you know,
I'm just waiting and seeing because there's so many other people. Now,
this should open up a lot of details, unless the
judge says, you know, how they try to curtail a

(01:08:58):
lot of the information from getting out of the six
Trials and all of that, and well, you can't use that,
you can't say that. I pray that they don't try
those games with this situation as well. Now we do
that one of them lie, either Cally lied or what's
his name Strock lied, because they would both ask the

(01:09:18):
same question. Strock said yes he did, and Comy says no,
he didn't. So one of them is lying. Hopefully it's
Colly that's lying, because it is not lying.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Oh boy, yeah, I would think that there's got to
be some other bit of evidence that indicates that it
is in fact Comy. Otherwise I believe they would have
went the other direction in charge, because this is about
trying to re establish some level of credibility to the FBI.

(01:09:52):
This is about trying to re establish some level of
accountability to the American people, and it's a good start
because this is, of course the first senior official, and
this means that there are no untouchables if you actually
go get the conviction. And I'm very hopeful that that's

(01:10:14):
exactly what will happen. But you're right, I'm right there
with you. There are lots and lots of things that
still could get in the way and prevent justice from
being served. But excuse me, I just I have a
pretty good feeling about this, insomuch as Komy always kind
of felt like to me, even when he was trying

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to give cover to Hillary Clinton and her clearly obvious
illegal use of a private server, a crime that does
not require intent. I will remind the listening public, even then,
he seems like somebody that could be very easily sacrificed

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to protect the rest of the democratic body politics and
to help keep the secrets of Barack Houstain, Ala wach
bar Obama and the Clintons buried as deep as they
want to keep them. So you throw on top of that.
I did see his little video response, and I really
couldn't tell much of a difference between this one and
his little video he did a little while back about

(01:11:18):
Taylor Swift. In fact, I think he was wearing the
same outbit. But man, oh man, this guy comes across
now and ever since his walk on the beach with
the eighty six forty seven bet he just feels like
a teenage girl anyway, which might also explain why he
seems unusually enjoying Taylor Swift stuff. I can't shake that feeling.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Maybe I'm just over sensitive to the idea that this
guy just he's not who he was supposed to be.
And I feel personally betrayed by him because when he
was first suggested for the position, I didn't know much
about him, but I looked at his bona fides and
he looked like he should be the right guy for

(01:12:07):
the job. So I felt personally upset by this because
I felt like I was misdilled. But I don't know,
is it just me Ron that did you get the
I'm really just secretly a twelve year old girl hiding
in the body of an adult man from this video.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
He did, I didn't think about that, but it fits.
It really does fit.

Speaker 8 (01:12:30):
He's he's he's he's a he's a real character and
not a fun character that I that I like. Yeah,
that's as good as anything you could come up with.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Something tells me too that if he gets convicted, he
might start identifying as a woman to stay out of
real prison. Oh man, real, real quick too. I wanted
to get to one more topic in the first section
of your with Us, and that is the possibility of
the government shut down upcoming now. In the past, usually

(01:13:07):
i'm sharing government shutdowns because other than a few folks
having their paycheck delayed, it typically doesn't have the type
of impact they like to pretend it does. And if
they do start hurting people like Social Security folks and
military paychecks and stuff like that, they're doing it in

(01:13:28):
violation of law. They can still prioritize where the spending goes. Congress,
the government can be shut down and those checks can
still go out. We've talked about this quite a bit,
you and I both have individually on our shows and
whenever we've gotten together, so we know the game that's
being played. But I love the new twist here. He's
almost daring the Democrats to do it. But he being

(01:13:50):
Donald Trump, of course, because he's issued these orders to
start making permanent layoffs. If the the government comes out,
here's the big chance to get all all those cuts
he wanted to do in those without having to go
through any legal apparatus. And Chucky Schumer can say all
he wants to about how they can go to court

(01:14:10):
and stop it. But when you're fired, you're fired, and
that's something that the courts have been upholding. You might
have to get to the Supreme Court before the final
words done, but these things have been pretty well permanent
once they are done, other than the ones that are
still litigated, of course. But at this point, what value

(01:14:33):
is there to the Democratic side in even doing the shutdown?
Do you think that they're going to fold last minute
or do you have a completely different take?

Speaker 8 (01:14:44):
Well, my take is do it. If I were Trump,
I would not have told them what I had planned
up my sleeve. I thought it was very stupid on
the level of retardation, to hey.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Gonna do if you know, if you if you shut
down the government, I'm going to lay off.

Speaker 8 (01:15:05):
Now they may not, because he had the Democrats over
a barrow because they were saying, well, we're gonna shut
it down because we want another trillion dollars worth of
spending on top of the overspending that has been allowed
by the Republicans. But the Republicans were saying, we want
a clean bill, we'll just keep the present level of spending,

(01:15:30):
and the Democrats were not having that because to them,
if you keep the budget the same, that to them
is a cut because it cuts into their desired increase.
So Trump, the Trumpster should have played them oh man,
oh wow, even played pretended to be a little worried

(01:15:51):
about it. But he should not have ever said anything
about the layoffs. I mean, the firings.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I was under
the impression, and I very well could be wrong here,
But I thought what had happened is he had very
quietly sent word to department heads to start preparing for layoffs,
and then word got out to the media that that
order had been given, and so then he acknowledged after
the fact that yes, this is how we're going to

(01:16:22):
do this. I didn't realize he'd come out and said
this up front. If he did, then somehow I completely
missed it. But it wouldn't be the first time. But
go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:16:35):
What I mean is that, and maybe I should have
said it more correctly. He should have denied it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
What do you mean? You know the government is going on.

Speaker 8 (01:16:47):
You know, there could have been a way of dancing
around it, as politicians are so adept at doing. Maybe
that's the way I should have properly presented it, because
I still think it was retarded to just say.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Yeah, uh, that's that's what we're going to do.

Speaker 8 (01:17:03):
The reason the reason why I say that is because
the other side can make preparations and just try to
make it more difficult. They have time to lie on MSNBC, CNN,
Fox News and tell the people horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Things like they normally do.

Speaker 8 (01:17:23):
Whereas if he'd, let's say, he just remained mysterious about it,
no definitive answer yes, no, yes or no, just act
like Kamala Harris for once, just the word salad, and.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
So they couldn't say that he said no or yes.

Speaker 8 (01:17:44):
But with no direct known order from him, it would
be it would take kind of the wind out of
their sales because they couldn't run out and tell lies
about his definitive decision to make that move. Now that
they know that it's definitive, they can say all kinds

(01:18:07):
of things to jinny up the people against it, so
that if it happens, he would look bad and people
would not even pay attention or care about the fact that, well,
he's lopping off billions of dollars worth of waste by
getting rid of a bunch of bureaucrats that are there
doing the bidding of those who are destroying the country,

(01:18:28):
namely the Democrats and Rhinos. So it just adds more
difficulty to the wonderful thing that he.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
Wants to do.

Speaker 8 (01:18:37):
And with the growing economy, those people, if they're qualified
for anything, they'd be able to find jobs or start
businesses themselves because the economy is growing at a very
good clip, despite the fact that the interest rates were
just lowered and only twenty five percent.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
But I just think that he should have just been
mums the word, not lie, but just be ambivalent.

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
And I just.

Speaker 8 (01:19:09):
Don't think it was strategically smart to just come out
and even after he was asked about it, whether he
you know, he went to the you know, the department heads,
of course, but just be ambivalent about it and let
them be in the guessing column for once.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Right, And I genuinely would agree with you if that
was the actual plan. But let me play Devil's advocate
here just a second. And and what if the actual
plan was to get government employees to just start pressuring
the Democrats to just sign off on the cr because
I really think that was the play. I think this

(01:19:49):
was a big bluff. I think this was Donald Trump
quietly doing this knowing that it would get out, knowing
that some of these people, a lot of these people
weren't going to be able to keep their mouth shut,
knowing that this was going to happen. And therefore they
can spend it all they want to. They can go
on MSNBC, they can they can go ahead and convince

(01:20:10):
every last crete and roaming around the streets of degenerate
City USA always vote for Democrats. And it's still not
going to make a difference. It's going to be the
government employees that are going to be calling up the
Democrats saying, say what you want. You're the one that's
putting us out of work. You can't let this happen.

(01:20:31):
I kind of felt like that was the play from
the beginning. But if this was about actually trying to
make those cuts, yeah, I probably would have waited much
much sooner, I mean much much later to even issue
the orders. I would have had the plan done by
your competants in the inner circle, and then I would

(01:20:52):
issue those those little orders out to the department heads
literally hours before the shutdown was supposed to start. That's
how I would have played it, if that was the
world plan. I tend to think Donald plays at that level.
I figure he's thinking far ahead than where I'm at.
But I could be wrong. Maybe this was a bungle.

(01:21:14):
I am kind of concerned about how he's trying to
poke Russia at the moment, and we can talk a
little bit about that later if you like. But it
does kind of come down to a question of was
that the play. If it was the play, I think
it's worked out pretty well, because again, the only people
that are going to go out and try to be

(01:21:36):
convinced on media aren't really folks that have a dog
in the fight, other than people that are going to
be dumb enough to think whatever Trump's doing is wrong. Anyway,
I still wish he would just come out and say
it's true, it's one hundred percent medically proven. Chigen is gidpoo.
You breathe deeply and then watch all these sobs holding

(01:21:59):
their breath to they pass out, fall down, and Butler
ants up, and it would be hilarious. But anyway, I
want to give you the last word in this half
of the hour.

Speaker 8 (01:22:09):
Well, I like your train of thought. You're not off
the mark at all, because he does think like that
and acts that way, you know, with many other topics
or subjects, and so that is a great possibility based
upon his history. And he could be playing, you know, chess,

(01:22:32):
that could be the political chess game that he's playing.
But I would have preferred that he said nothing, wait
for the Democrats to cut it off, and then have
one of his famous press conferences in the Oval office
where you know, they can't they can't lie because he's

(01:22:53):
there talking, you know, to these people right there, and
what he the truth would be on the record regarding
the shutdown, and you could have a graft there to
show that you advantages of what they wanted to do
by holding the line on spending and keeping a clean bill.
Then announce all the firings and there'd be nothing. Like

(01:23:19):
you said, there'd be nothing they could do because once
you're fired, you're permanently fired.

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
And it has been generally held up by the courts,
but real quick I'd like to ask you.

Speaker 8 (01:23:30):
When the president does something that is within the confines
of the Constitution, I mean, his duties are pretty much enumerated,
and some black robe gone wild judge says no, you
can't do you think he would A president would be
wrong to say, screw you, I'm going to go ahead.
What is legally my duty, whether it's getting you legals out,

(01:23:57):
whether it's doing whatever. But it's within the confines of
his his duties. And for a black robe gone wild
judge to say no, you can't do your job, as
if they are more important than the president, I think
the president is stupid to go along with those rulings.
And the reason why I say that is because the

(01:24:18):
Autopin administration did go against a couple of a Supreme
Court ruling. In fact, well, I can't recall the subject,
but I know that after the Supreme Court ruling, the
Autopin administration continued doing what they were doing ruled against,

(01:24:38):
and they were doing something they should not have been doing.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
I think it had to do with the borders or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:24:46):
And here you have the Trump administration doing his actual
job and being ruled against and being obedient to the courts.
Ruling against him until thank god, we have the Supreme
Court most of the time ruling in his favor. But
do you think it's smart for a president to sweat

(01:25:07):
it out every time he makes a decision and he's
actually doing his job. Do you think he should even
set the president of being a good boy or a
stupid boy in that case by obeying a judge that
is ruling against his constitutional duties which he is exercising.
And I like to get your your take on is

(01:25:29):
he stupid? I think he's stupid to obey an illegal order,
or do you think he should it's it's it's good
to do that because let's say the Supreme Court was
different well liberal, and there's and there's a thing called precedent.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Right, all right, we're really close to the hardbreak, So
I'll try to answer this quickly. One of the things
that Biden kept ignoring, that he did it multiple times,
was the student loan debts that he kept trying to
find the way to forgive. But I think this is
a unique situation. Ordinarily, any other time, I think it's
important to differentiate that just going along with that order

(01:26:10):
isn't the same thing as honoring it. Long enough to
appeal it. If you're appealing it, you're not just going
along with it. And he knows he's gonna win on
appeal because he knows eventually he's going to get in
front of a judge that still holds up the rule
of law ahead of their political biases, whatever that may be.
But if it comes right down to it, and you
got to the point of the Supreme Court still saying no,

(01:26:32):
you can't do the job that is your job to do,
then you have a choice to make. Donald Trump has
been lied about so long and so often that it's
an extremely difficult position to be in because anything he's
done is blown out of proportion, and at this moment
in time, he is trying to enforce laws and still

(01:26:53):
trying to keep full blown riots from happening in places.
So it's a tougher but with a lot of moving parts.
But you and I have talked about this before, sooner
or later, if it comes right down to it, I'm
on board with whatever president finds it necessary in order
to do their job to take the Andrew Jackson approach,

(01:27:15):
that simply being you've major ruling, now enforce it. Literally
every apparatus, the Supreme Court has or any other court
has to enforce the rulings, requires the Justice Department to
do it, and guess who's in charge there. It's a
great point, Brian, and if you like, we can pick
that up on the other side. But we really have

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to take the break or right about now, so don't
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Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
All right, Rod, obviously you must have been over the
target somewhere if they had that reaction. Regardless of what
Elon has promised and is trying to do over there,
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out of their own way and won't until somebody comes up.
And what was that Edwards notebook earlier about performing your duties. Yeah,
somebody's going to have to come up and say you
fight it. But it is an uphill battle. I don't
know how much of that is going on without Elon's knowledge.
And how much of it he does know and just

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ignore some. But regardless, it's a good thing. There's getter.
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Did you want to continue the conversation we were having
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my response?

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I'm more than satisfied. And as they say, moving.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
On, moving along, all right. Well, obviously we've we do
have a high temperature, and this kind of plays back
into what we were saying. The political temperature in the
country is probably the highest it's been. We have a
bunch of idiots out there who seem to think that

(01:38:43):
Jimmy Kimmel being taken off the air for a couple
of days is actually worse than a political assassination taking
place in front of the country in the form of
Charlie Kirk. We are seeing the continuation of these leftists
out here planning doing their thing, going after folks.

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
We had the.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
Kid shooting into the ice facility in Dallas just this week,
and I kind of wanted to start with that because
we're seeing the same scenario play itself out over and
over again ever since Maggie one off the insurance CEO
in New York and left messages on the casing. This

(01:39:30):
has become an accepted practice within the left. It's always
been accepted. But they didn't have the youth quite ready
to I was gonna say figuratively, but let's space facs,
it's happening literally now too. Didn't have them ready to
pull the trigger. I want your thoughts on that first,
and then I definitely want to discuss before we switch

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gears to a final topic, what happens if they get
their way, because what they want is all out fighting.
What they want is for conservatives to react in a
similar way. What they don't realize is that's not going
to play out very well for them. But anyway, your
reaction to the shooting at the Ice detentions that are

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to start with, well.

Speaker 8 (01:40:19):
I know you might think that I have a warped
sense of humor, but they didn't exactly get who they
were aiming.

Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
For, and so they helped us out a little bit.
Three people.

Speaker 8 (01:40:30):
We don't have to worry about the courts trying to
keep here who should be kicked out of the country.
But you know, the one thing that I've noticed, not
only with that situation and many others that are playing out.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
Across across our republic, is.

Speaker 8 (01:40:47):
That people are getting away with doing all kinds of things, shootings, beatings,
just breaking into stores. It doesn't matter if it's Louis
Vauton on Michigan Avenue in in Chicago, whatever, and there's
no fear of police showing up or something happening to you.

(01:41:09):
It's just an open season right now. And I'm very
concerned about that. And like you just said that, if
the good old boys really get riled up and personally
between you, me and the fence post, I hope they do.
Because the government, you know, the local police officers, they've

(01:41:31):
all been sold out, ninety percent of them. They're you know,
they're what they're doing or not doing as far as
going after criminals. And one of the reasons why they're
not is because people like Alvin Bragg are letting the
criminals back out. I don't know if you heard about today,
Well it happened yesterday. Remember the heavy duty female that

(01:41:55):
knocked the crap out of the pro life woman in Harlem?

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
Yes, and well she was let out.

Speaker 8 (01:42:03):
The original charges were reduced to a little misdemeanor, and
yesterday Alvin Brad said, screw it, you're you're free, no problem.
And so criminals and leftists have gotten to the point
where if you oppose them, whether you approse a thug,

(01:42:23):
a Cretan in the act of wrongful doings or in
the world of opinion, if you oppose what they're saying
in their opinion, you're worthy of death.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
And I knew all the time it.

Speaker 8 (01:42:41):
Was going to eventually get to that point, because as
we all know, if you've studied about right and wrong
in human nature, there is no bottom to how.

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
Far evil doers will go. They will go as far
as we allow.

Speaker 8 (01:42:59):
Them and unfunctioned for Fortunately, our republic has gotten pretty
retarded when it comes to opposing evil, especially Cretans, whether
they're especially minority and uh illegal border cross or criminals.
That's why you have these little white Karns running around
going to Nutsville, going to back for these these illegals,

(01:43:21):
I mean, murderers, and they're attacking like this ice facility
in the Chicago land area continuing and they put a
fence up there, and they're going to Nutsville. How dare
they put a fence up? How dare they put a
fence up? Well, they had to in order to protect
the ice people who are.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
Doing their job.

Speaker 8 (01:43:40):
And I wish that they would go ahead and do
what President Trump said that he said, do what you whatever.
You know, they come at you and they present a
harmful situation to fight back. But in most cases they're
still not fighting back. And I don't understand why. When
they do fight back, they always win. They're much more capable,

(01:44:03):
but for some retriter reason, they usually don't. I'd say
eighty percent of the time they do not, and that
emboldens the evildoers and that causes many more situations. The
more lenient you are, the more often they're going to
put you in danger. You're putting yourself in danger by

(01:44:24):
being lenient.

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the perfect point. How many times
have we seen officers that get killed in the line
of duty because they refuse to pull their gun, you know,
they just won't do it. We've seen this happen way
more frequently. It's certainly happening more often than what the

(01:44:46):
left would have you believe goes on every day over
they're just out there hunting black people. Have you ever
felt hunted on the mean streets of Michigan?

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
Only when I go to a certain neighborhood, Yeah, and
everyone is hunted.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
There, but generally no, it's not the police though, is it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
Nope, it never has been the police in my case. Never.

Speaker 10 (01:45:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
Maybe it has more to do with what you're doing
before the police show up as far as how you
feel hunted. But you're right, and part of it is
I think a sense of most people in law enforcement
get into it, regardless of whatever level they're at, because
they want to serve their public and they want to

(01:45:35):
be respectful of the right that you have to protest.
It just comes down to how do you react appropriately
when they cross the line. Because I think we're all
in agreement. Protesting is one thing. If you're protesting, you
are not going to come into physical contact with an officer,
and they're not going to come into physical contact with you.

(01:45:56):
You're not protesting. If you get to the point that
you're for that to happen, you have stepped out of line.
But when you get to full blown obstruction of justice,
then you committed a crime. Take them into custody. But
it's still somewhere in the back of their mind they
want to reach these people that around them to so

(01:46:17):
understand that they're there to serve the community. That's what
they signed up for. They have to enforce the laws
that will make them safer, and in the process they
do go in harm's way. We saw it in the
incident in Dallas. What happened as this crazy kid was
still shooting willy nilly into the facility, these ice officers

(01:46:38):
that were outside risked their lives. They stayed in place
to try to administer first aid and to protect these
people that were detained that should be on their way
out of the country because they feel that's their job.
They're there to serve and to protect, and they want
to follow the rule of law. And then we turn
around and we see people like Gavin Newsom. We're going

(01:47:00):
to pass the law here, you can't even mask up.
We want you to be docs. We want your family
to be at risk. We want all the worst possible
things that can happen to you to happen. Fortunately, he
can pass all the laws he wants. It doesn't apply
the federal law enforcement anyway. Good luck trying to make
anything happen. They probably will in California. But I think

(01:47:20):
once again Donald Trump is going to be in a
position where he's going to have to call up the
National Guard in support of protecting the federal agents simply
doing their job. It circles right back around to what
you were talking about. When do you go tell the
judges to pounds in at the point where you are
no longer allowed to do the most basic fundamental aspect

(01:47:43):
of the job, and that's to try and provide public safety,
to try and protect the American citizen, and even the
ones who don't like it, they're still being protected by
these actions. And I'm sorry to have gone on my rent, sir,
it is your turn.

Speaker 8 (01:47:57):
Well at your show, your rent, your show, but you
added more than adequately covered that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
But I want to give you thirty seconds of humor. Okay,
I can use it.

Speaker 8 (01:48:12):
Serena Williams is griping because of the decorative cotton plant
is making her uncomfortable in her five star hotel room.
When I saw that this afternoon, I don't know. Maybe
I'm sillier than I believe. I couldn't stop laughing for

(01:48:33):
about twenty minutes. She's griping about a cotton plant, and
I I and I get.

Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
A plant.

Speaker 8 (01:48:48):
I don't get it. What where is the connection here?
Tim Am I missing something. You're a real smart guy,
so help me out here.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
All right, here's here's what you're missing. Surena. So she retired,
isn't in the limelight as much as she used to be,
and she's kind of missing it. So how do I
get to be the buzz How do I get to
be talked about on social media? I know I'm going
to be the victim of a racism? How dare you

(01:49:23):
put that cotton? Were you expecting me to pick this
cotton in the middle of the hallway? Oh my goodness.
And what I love is the reaction she got, though
not a lot of folks had her back on this one.

Speaker 8 (01:49:34):
Ron Thank god, Yeah, thank god. Okay, I just wanted
to I just wanted to make sure that you know,
I wasn't crazy, because I just I couldn't help it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:47):
I just kept laughing. I couldn't stop.

Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
It is pretty funny, but I, like I said, I
think it's even funnier. A lot of the responses she got,
there were one or two people that were kind of like, yeah,
that's pretty racist. Of course they didn't put it quite
like that, but most of the people were all like,
what's the problem, what are you talking about? A few

(01:50:12):
people are like, I've got cotton plants all throughout my house,
part of the de corps. I love it. It's just
all kinds of And for the record, on all these
responses that were being highlighted, they were not from Caucasians.
That's an important thing. A lot of black folk were
not bothered by this and thought she was being stupid.

(01:50:32):
So we've got that much settled. You are not alone.

Speaker 6 (01:50:37):
Ron.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
A lot of people thought it was too funny or
too stupid, and I'm saying, why can't it be both?
But you know, I don't have a dog in that fight,
and I don't have any cotton in that field, soa
and if it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:54):
Works for whatever, Yeah, I just I I needed some
help and I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
All right. Well, I'm looking at the clock run and
we are damn this time. It goes by so fast. Man,
I hate that. But I wanted to talk to you
a little bit about the passion of Charlie Kirk and
what your feelings were about that. Obviously, Charlie was a

(01:51:26):
very unique figure within the conservative realm, and he infected
a lot of different people in a lot of different ways.
I was kind of curious what your feelings were in
regards to this. And you know, when we've got more time,
we can talk about what some of the reactions to
it have been. But just your thoughts in three minutes

(01:51:51):
or less on what happened to Charlie Kirk and what
that means moving forward.

Speaker 8 (01:51:56):
Well, several months ago, a good friend I made, a
good friend of mine just crack up because I said,
you know, when you are really good, when you're really
sincere in this evil world and you stick your head up,
you end up being like those you know, those carnival
where you shoot at carnival targets. And we just cracked up.

(01:52:22):
And that's what came to mind when we saw it.
I mean, he was shot and he just fell over
like one of those targets. And then immediately it hit me.
I said, this guy was doing all the right things.
He was doing what I read in the Bible what
God wants us to do. Not only that, he was
a great husband, he was a nice guy all the

(01:52:47):
way around. Okay, And I'm thinking, well, the Lord says
in his word he needs more of this, a perfect
example to the world. And he was drawing in record
numbers of young people and they were growing and growing
and growing, and I understand that they're still expanding, but

(01:53:08):
it won't be the same without him.

Speaker 4 (01:53:10):
He's that glue and he.

Speaker 8 (01:53:12):
Was very knowledgeable and kept everything in a certain path,
and it just it hurt when that happened.

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
I was like, oh my God, I was really hurt
because if I lost a family member or something. And
I only met the guy.

Speaker 8 (01:53:30):
I think it was nineteen at the time, and he
was in Michigan, and we actually spoke on the same program.
But I always kept track of him and always really
loved what he did.

Speaker 4 (01:53:45):
And I was like, for God to.

Speaker 8 (01:53:47):
Allow this to happen, I mean, I had to get
I almost had to get some counseling because I mean
biblical counseling, because it was like, what heck I mean?
And yet you know, and then I started comparing, you know,
George Sorols and Hillary still walking the earth. These people

(01:54:09):
are doing whatever the hell they want to do, and
yet a good guy that represents what I read because
I read Proverbs every morning, this, you know, along with
anything else that I read in the Bible. And I'm thinking,
this match is up, Lord, But yet this is the
one you allowed to get snuffed out so early, so
it really, it just it really hit deep. And my

(01:54:32):
wife was similarly impacted, and a lot of people that
I knew that I know, were very It was a
very hurting thing. And I think he was doing such
a good job that the enemy, and when I say
the enemy, the political enemies, understood we got to get
this guy out because he's getting the young, so the

(01:54:55):
only the left were getting the young and massive numbers.
He was turning many leftist students into the right direction,
and they were understanding why they were they were They
were really turning intellectually. They weren't just having an emotional
come to Jesus moment. They were intellectually stimulated as well

(01:55:15):
as spiritually, and they were walking forth with understanding. Yes,
and and it was and it was growing under his leadership,
and it'll still grow, but I don't think it'll be
the same.

Speaker 4 (01:55:27):
It won't be as impactful. You you tear out.

Speaker 8 (01:55:32):
The person that got it together, who had not gone astray,
and he shot down, and you allow him to be
shot down like as if he were an enemy like
that in front of the world.

Speaker 6 (01:55:42):
I just.

Speaker 4 (01:55:45):
I just have to keep my blind faith and that's
that's I guess I'll eat ended.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
There all right, Well, I appreciate that run, and of
course we're going to have to end the show right
about here too. But I do want to say that
if if it takes a Mark Harder to keep the
faithful on track during these dark times, as much as
I hate it, as much as i'd rather have him here,
I can't think of a better person to fit that role.

(01:56:11):
Ron As always, thank you so much for being here.
I greatly appreciate it. God speed to you, sir. Keep
up the great work, and remember, don't take my word
for anything you've heard me say. Tonight, go out there,
do your homework, do your own research, but most importantly,
use your brain if you really want to tap into
the truth. Have a great weekend, everybody.

Speaker 11 (01:56:32):
With the DV. That's all, folks, You're be be gone.

Speaker 3 (01:57:01):
Was a world of fun when you were just a
little squirt.

Speaker 5 (01:57:06):
You learn the rules of defensive tool so that no
one would get hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:57:15):
You learn to breathe, and you learn to squeeze till
your animals always true.

Speaker 5 (01:57:21):
You make the right a passage.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
Man with your first.

Speaker 4 (01:57:25):
Wheel twenty two.

Speaker 5 (01:57:31):
Tell the new world orders through well they're begging, learn
the mans.

Speaker 4 (01:57:37):
They don't feel.

Speaker 5 (01:57:38):
Safe and you are armed.

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
You say country.

Speaker 7 (01:57:40):
Shows using both hands.

Speaker 5 (01:57:50):
Founder's name. The second Amendment was the final one, to
keep hold our other like Sam tat so we'd never.

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
Be got sheep.

Speaker 6 (01:58:05):
She's starling hit their maloy in Paul Pot.

Speaker 7 (01:58:08):
They told us things that you never forgot.

Speaker 5 (01:58:11):
She blesses you.

Speaker 4 (01:58:12):
Your daughter's sauce.

Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
To fear the government, the fears of drugs.

Speaker 4 (01:58:21):
Now the New World or the true well there.

Speaker 6 (01:58:24):
Maybe you love the mass. They don't feel safe and
you are wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:58:29):
You say God control.

Speaker 4 (01:58:32):
He's using both hands.

Speaker 5 (01:58:40):
Let the turn three, don't wait to the tide in
two to three. Love a thousand nats, protect my family.

Speaker 6 (01:59:08):
Now the New World are not through.

Speaker 11 (01:59:10):
Well, they are many hands.

Speaker 5 (01:59:14):
They can pass a hundred bars, but we still won't
give it down.

Speaker 12 (01:59:20):
All of these things over do.

Speaker 3 (01:59:22):
If they try to take this blam, they.

Speaker 6 (01:59:26):
Have no chance with you.

Speaker 4 (01:59:28):
SAMs don't control

Speaker 3 (01:59:38):
Is using both hands.

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