Presidents Trump and Zelensky had two historic and consequential conversations. A cordial 2019 phone call and a tense Oval Office meeting recently, both leading to ironic outcomes. But what does the legacy media keep getting wrong about Trump / Zelensky? That’s what I asked Fred Lucas, chief news correspondent and manager of the Investigative Reporting Project for The Daily Signal and author of multiple books, including Abuse of Power: Inside The Three-Year Campaign to Impeach Donald Trump.
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