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June 13, 2025 120 mins
Today, I discussed the latest news about the LA riots and the effort to spread the unrest to other parts of the country with Michael A. Letts, founder and President of InVEST USA.

Anton Chaitkin, historian and author of Who We Are: America's Fight for Universal Progress: Volume II, joined me to discuss the factions working to keep Russia and Ukraine at war and the glorious future America could have if we stopped those factions from controlling things from behind the scenes.

Ann Vandersteel, co-founder of American Made Foundation, and former host of SteelTruthTM, as well as the former President and co-host on YourVoice America, joined me to discuss the importance of the upcoming June 18, 2025, decision of the SCOTUS on whether or not to grant certiorari to the Section 230 case; Fyk v. Facebook. The very future of free speech online may be at stake.

I closed out the show with Ryan McDermott, author of Downriver: Memoir of a Warrior Poet. We talked about the book, his journey from leading men in Iraq to a successful career in finance to finally facing his struggle with PTSD, and how it led him to a deeper understanding of many things, including the silent struggles of other Dads. This segment was focused as a Father's Day message as we reflected on the critical role of Dads in rebuilding America's backbone and leading the way to its future.

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InVEST USA

Truth, Lies and Control: Finding Hope in an Upside-Down World

Who We Are: America's Fight for Universal Progress, from Franklin to Kennedy: Volume II - 1830s to 1890s

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Speaker 8 (02:42):
When Hello, and welcome to today's broadcast of Tapping to
the Truth. I hope you're having a fantastic day wherever
you are and whatever you may be doing. With all
the usual caveats of course, with you as always I
am you're ever so humble and mostly peaceful. Host Tim
Zapp and you know, I think we're reminded here recently

(03:05):
of why I added the mostly peaceful host because lots
and lots of times I get a little fiery, and
if you've been paying attention to the Rumble live chat
or the midweek shows lately, you might have caught onto
a little of that.

Speaker 9 (03:21):
Anyway, Glad to have you here along for the ride.

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Speaker 9 (03:51):
Glad to have you here.

Speaker 8 (03:53):
Much like last week, though, I am under severe stormwatch
and last week it knocked me off the air. But
here's the bunny part. I haven't even had a chance
to tell Doug this yet. I meant to before show,
but as it turns out that I mentioned to him
the storms had mostly passed when power went out here
for the time that it did. We got an update

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from the electric company. Turns out that it was a
huge snake that got a little too close to some
power lines that knocked the power out.

Speaker 9 (04:23):
At least that's the story they went with.

Speaker 8 (04:26):
Just remember sometimes the official story isn't always the truth.
But at least this one sounds kind of humorous. It
was a big snake they had a picture of anyway,
that being set aside, the point being could be off
the air any second, Just go around. But we've been
under storms almost all year, it feels like, and we've

(04:50):
managed to get through most of them. We're gonna give
it a try again. Tonight should be a interesting show.

Speaker 9 (04:56):
If nothing less.

Speaker 8 (04:57):
We are scheduled and I emphasized word, we're scheduled to
be joined by.

Speaker 9 (05:04):
Repeat guests and just focused leader.

Speaker 8 (05:10):
Uh, he's what's what's the word I'm looking for again,
servant leader. That's that's the phrasing I'm looking for here,
because he provides leadership.

Speaker 9 (05:21):
By serving First.

Speaker 8 (05:22):
I'm of course talking about the founder and president of
invest USA, Michael A.

Speaker 9 (05:29):
Letz.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
He will be joining us. We'll be talking about, uh,
the ongoing unrest, and we seem to be getting more
and more information it looks like we've got some folks
that we should be arresting for insurrection, the folks that are,
shall we say, funding the activities. I hope the cases

(05:52):
are being made behind the scene. I'm pretty sure they are.
Later on, we're also scheduled to be joined by returning
guest Anton and we were initially scheduled to be talking
about the escalation between Ukraine and Russia recently. I think
we'll probably tie that in with the overnight attacks between

(06:13):
Israel and Iran, as they seem to be getting pretty feisty.
I got a lot of people worked up, and I
think unnecessarily, I think that's under control.

Speaker 9 (06:23):
But we'll get into that conversation point in the.

Speaker 8 (06:25):
Second hour, schedule to be joined by and vander Steel,
we're going to be talking about whether or not the
Supreme Court is going to take up a particular case
that may very well discermine the future of free speech online,
not just here in the United States but worldwide. Last,
but certainly not least, we're scheduled to be joined by

(06:46):
the Warrior poet himself, Ryan McDermott.

Speaker 9 (06:49):
We're going to be talking about a.

Speaker 8 (06:50):
Father's Day topic, since that is upcoming this Sunday, boys
and girls, providing we all survive the No Kings demonstrations
on Flag Day, and we'll be talking about the critical
role of Dad's and rebuilding America's backbone.

Speaker 9 (07:06):
So should be full and lots of topics.

Speaker 8 (07:10):
And we're not going to get bogged out into any
just one. And that's good because otherwise I'd probably just
be here going on and on all two hours about
the insanity of how the democratic office holders and the
legacy corporate media are trying to convince you that everything
that's went on in LA and everything that had spread
out since then, it's all Donald Trump's fault, and.

Speaker 9 (07:32):
We all know that it's just not the case.

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Speaker 9 (09:30):
Thanks once again for coming on with us. And before
we get started, how are you today? O?

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Great? Jim. You know, I thought it was ironic what
you're saying about the storms. We have the same thing
here in South Carolina and DWY Frankly, one is just
kicking in as a severe storm. Now. I don't know
where you're sending them our way or what we just
decided to share, but makes life interesting some duds.

Speaker 8 (09:55):
Yes, indeed, I think we probably are just sharing because
I wouldn't wish this anywhere.

Speaker 9 (10:03):
Rain is good.

Speaker 8 (10:04):
Storms, well, we all need a few storms to test
our character from time to time.

Speaker 9 (10:10):
Just depends on.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
How bad, especially lightning.

Speaker 9 (10:12):
I hate lightning absolutely.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
The only guy going on here now, by I mean,
it's just you can hear the thunder and the devil's
definitely beating his wife hard today.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
Well, I don't guess that's to be unexpected given the
amount of evil that we are seeing on open display
through our country.

Speaker 9 (10:36):
Let's jump in.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
You know, with everything going across the country. He's beaten
his wife all over the country today, no doubt.

Speaker 8 (10:43):
All right, Michael, We're seriously looking at the left continuing
to do what they have done recently, and that is
just blatantly lie about facts on the ground.

Speaker 9 (10:56):
I'm beginning to think that.

Speaker 8 (10:59):
All the Democratic office holders from the state of California
and all of the legacy.

Speaker 9 (11:05):
Corporate media have went to the Baghdad Bob School.

Speaker 8 (11:10):
Of disinformation to give out through journalism. There are no
Americans in the city.

Speaker 9 (11:15):
Do not look over my shoulder. That is what we're seeing.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
It's hilarious, it's sad, but it's very true. You know,
it's a worst of all, We got to establish what
the terminology is. This is not any protest, folks. This
is well orchestrated, well funded, well thought. We have all
the information for you. We're going to be talking about
this in the show. But it also extremely pointed in

(11:43):
what they're attempting to do. It is an insurrection, without question.
It is an insurrectional riotus all across the country, and
they have been planning there for some time, and quite frankly,
I don't think they expected to get their response they're getting.
Not only are American disgusted with it, but there's a
new sheriff in town. We don't tolerate this kind of behavior,

(12:05):
and they're finding that out the hard way, right.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
Well, you know, unfortunately some folks that's the only way
they can learn. But we definitely need to see it.
We need to send that message. We need to have
the full commitment to law and order on display. And
the folks in California really need to understand, and I
think they do. The citizens in California see it firsthand.

(12:30):
They know what's going on as well.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (12:32):
They're trying to send out sos as almost as much
as the folks in Iran are these days. Uh, the
citizens are there. The SOS isn't stop Israel. The SOS
is please go further topple the regime. And that's kind
of the same message we're getting from California, topple the
regime of the pretty boy who wants to be president,

(12:55):
Gavin Newsom and all the other co conspirators, including Karen
Bass who before this, the last time we saw her
was her trying to sneak back into the country from
an African wedding while her city was burning.

Speaker 9 (13:10):
The absurdity here we have judges.

Speaker 8 (13:13):
In open conflict again, this time trying to take not
the commander in chief role.

Speaker 9 (13:20):
Well, actually, what I was going to say is not
the chief executive role.

Speaker 8 (13:24):
But now they're trying to take the commander in chief
role away from Donald Trump, claiming he doesn't have the
authority to issue military to protect federal buildings and to
protect federal law enforcement agencies who are guilty of nothing
other than trying to enforce federal crime that the folks
in California just don't particularly like. And in this case,
when I say the folks, I mean the leftist politicians.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Oh yeah, exactly right. You know, it was a strategic
plan on our part, of an administration's part. As to
how we knew this as company, we're not caught off guard,
and quite frankly, we had laid out preparations what needed
to be done. One of those that bringing up, because
it's ironical you had mentioned it is is looking at

(14:09):
and this is all across the country. Now this is
not just for la but in looking and realizing that
it was going to start at La It was part
of the terrorist network that you saw its head beginning
the service at Boulder, Colorado. You realize that in some states,
California being one, it would be best to do a
pre empty strike, And let me tell you what we

(14:29):
mean by that. We're going ahead and federalize the National
Guard because quite frankly, the constitution allows for us to
superceede the state authorization of the Guard or the governor's
of the Guard. But that would have just been another layer.
Have you gone in and let Newsome call up the

(14:50):
Guard under state authority first, it would just be another
challenging court. So we beating to the punch, we went
on ahead and federalized the California National Guard. Really rugged
in their wrong way. It seems like I didn't, but
when you take a look at the outcome, we did
the right thing. Because you know, Governor new Something is
so socialist and I don't really want to use the

(15:12):
word socials. He's really communist. He's felt like this Bass
by the way, who you know, has got to be
an expert coming in out of the country. He did
it for years. When she went down to Cuba with
Fidel Castro, was personally kind of taught how to be
an excellent Marxist, and now she's demonstrating that in LA.
But that having been said, had Gavin Newsom are socialist

(15:33):
communists expert been able to get to Guard under his control, first,
we didn't want it to be used to impe what
we were going to have to do. We realized we
were going to have to bring in active troops anyway,
but we didn't want to have to be using guard
troops kind of get in the way, impeding the mission.
So we were out smarted Gavin, and I don't think

(15:55):
he liked being outsmarted.

Speaker 9 (15:58):
Well, you'd think you'd kind of be used to it.
Now he's not the.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
It's not hard to do, Tim, but you know it's
really not. It's really not hard to do. But if
it is so interesting talking about how we we knew
this was coming, Intel had showed it, and quite frankly,
let me, let's explain where we're at, how we got here,
what we're doing about it. First of all, there are

(16:26):
who are the parties involved? Well, the easiest answer from
a law enforcement standpoint is something you've probably heard before,
to praise the money. We have done that and there
are five different players that are heavily involved. Believe it
or not, there is this CCP. China itself is involved

(16:48):
in tremendously heavily funding this insurgency movement across the country.
That's the first. The second of all, you have the
Venezuelan government, the Maderia government. You say, oh, they're bringing
in billions. Now, they're putting in cash, but their main
goal one objecus. They are providing logistical support in personnel

(17:09):
ie through trend Dague. They have got that game moving
in every state of the Union. And then that's the
third party that's got a financial vested in this is
of course a name you've all heard, the sorrows Alex
and George. And then the fourth party involved in this
funding endeavor is one we hadn't her till now, and

(17:33):
that is, of course Christy Walton. I you Sam very well.
I know he's rolling in his grave over his daughter,
who is one of our daughter in law, excuse me,
one of the heiresses of the Walton Walmart Foundation in
the billionaires. She's put in one hundred million dollars and

(17:55):
attempting to overthrow our government. That's what we're talking about.
This is an insurrection, not leaves the stake of what
our terminology in narrative should be. And then of course
the fifth one of this is the one that's most
disgusting to you and I cam as Americans, is what
I'm gonna call NGOs. We're gonna lump them all into
one category. NGOs that have been funded by urine I

(18:15):
tax dollars through Usaid, Department of State, and others over
the years, hundreds of millions of dollars that have been
basically money laundered and stolen from the US Treasury and
now being used to fund this operation to destroy America
from within. And so that's where the funding sources are
coming from. Now, what do we do about that? Before

(18:35):
we go on to what is their strategy? What are
attempting to accomplish. We have had discussions with the Bureau
with the cash and others danamos and encouraging them, and
quite Franklin got very positive response and that with kind
of bondy as well to move forward. Rico, why is
that a critical Because this is a conspiracy, it is organized,

(19:00):
it is a basically a criminal syndicate, and RICO gives
you the ability to seize assets. So it's time that
we go in and seize the assets of the players
that we just talked about, so that we cut the
funding off, not down to a trickle, we cut it
all periods. You know, quite frankly, folks Is, you're very
well aware nobody does anything for free anymore, and when

(19:22):
you cut their funding source off, you pretty much killed
what's left of it there. So that's what we're attempting
to make sure you gets accomplished on that venue. Now,
let's talk about the logistics that they're talking about. They
are using those funds to hire protesters all across the country.
They pay pretty good money. Sometimes it's a couple hundred bucks,

(19:43):
sometimes it's a few thousands. Sometimes it's even more, depending
on your degree of skill that helping be an antagonist
and breaking the law. And they're moving these protesters all
around the country to stir up the pod. Of course,
it's gone an expansion from LA to the San Francisco,

(20:05):
Seattle his name off some of them. Seattle has gone
into Chicago, Detroit, New York, d C. They're working on
now Atlanta, Georgia, Dallas, Philadelphia, Tampa. We'll kind of work
the way backwards Florida insurrectionists didn't work too well. That

(20:28):
got shut down pretty quickly. Ron DeSantis, he was he
actually called out the National Guard. We authorized it, but
he called it out because you know, he knew what
to do with it, and unlike gavenusm and he made
sure that they were prepared to shut these protests down immediately. Again,
let me make sure our listeners understand we have no

(20:50):
objection to freedom of speech. You want to stand there
and holler at the top of your lungs of the
sign all day long, you feel free. However, you want
to use this opportunity to throw massive stones the windshields
of law enforcement vehicles rushing to scenes to try to
kill the occupants, it is now attempted murder and we

(21:13):
will view that attempted murder of an officer with the
most severity of action. And quite frankly, that is not
a protest. That is a riot when you're trying to
kill officers, when you're trying to destroy property, and this
is what I want them to do as well. Well,
you're just standing there determined. I want to block traffic
so that nobody can go to work, so that the

(21:35):
economy begins to suffer because of it. That's a crime,
by the way, folks, that's a felony. And so we're
going to make sure that those that are committing felonies.
Remember this is not protests. Protests, you don't commit felonies
riot you do. We're going to make sure that those
that are committing these felonies are helpfully accountable. How do
we plan on accomplishing them, Well, you know, quite frankly,

(21:56):
if you remember January sixth. Of course it was a
different administration and they use this technology and nefariously. But
you remember January the sixth, people wondered, how do they
know I was there? And this or that and the other.
It is amazing the technology that we have in the
intelligence community today. You can be wearing your little hat,
your little sunglasses and your little scarf and thinking nobody
knows who you are. Wrong, folks, our technology allows us

(22:19):
to be able to put together and put your characteristics.
You get ninety to ninety five per cent accuracy exactly
who's behind all that outfit. And we've been able to
do it with great, great success. And so as you
saw January sixth, they were months and months past where
people were still getting outs on the doors. Hey, guess what,

(22:40):
here's your picture. You know you're coming with us in cuffs.
You're going to see the same thing here. That's time
for the right purposes, of the right reasons. So those
that are participating, don't think that just because you didn't
get caught today, you're scott free. Your time is coming.
We've got this other well, surveillance, and we're going to
make sure that those who have been involved with colies

(23:00):
in which we just describe to what a number of
those work, You're going to be held accountable for your actions.
So that's coming as well. Now the other thing that's
coming is this is a big showdown tomorrow. Why did
they pick tomorrow. They picked them all for a number
of reasons. You know, it's Trump's birthday, but that wasn't
the only reason. The reason why they picked it is

(23:20):
they have now realized that all their other attempts that
they had been working on so diligently to destroy what
the American people voted for, to destroy the changes administration
that is trying to bring at Fireland. Quite frankly, they
just haven't gotten where they need to be. They've gotten
Activist judges evolved to try to help that doesn't seem

(23:40):
to be working the way they want to. So they're
desperate and they're pulling their last cards, and they hope
to bring us into a civil war, to were an
ultimate chaos, brother against brother fifty fighting the other fifty percent,
And quite frankly, I think their intail is very very
off him. There's not fifty to fifty. Frankly, I think

(24:01):
the eighty ninety percent of Americans are just absolutely disgusted
with all the corruption that we've seen being coming out now,
these failed policies of the past. They want to repudiate
those policies and they want to restore America back to
her grandeur once again. So it's not fifty fifty, it's
eighty ninety to ten. And quite frankly, out of the
percentages that do want to are being paid to create

(24:24):
this havoc when they see the armament of the United
States Government, why do we say those words? Now the
President has signed the Insurrection Act. Now it is in play.
The President, if you have followed his comments over the
last few days, his pledge the full resources and assets

(24:45):
of the United States Government. That means all military operations,
that means all active duty operations if necessary, just for
their information they're fixed and to find out tomorrow that
there are active military units that have been deployed and
moved all across the country to be able to respond
at a minute's notice should they begin to get a

(25:07):
little bit more out of tune than they should be
with their activities or more so, we're going to shut
these things down very quickly, very harshly, and make sure
that you understand that we view this the way it
actually is. This is an attempto work through our government. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (25:26):
Yeah, that is one hundred percent correct. There's no question
or doubt about it.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
Anybody out there that is still actually posing even Devil's
Advocate questions with this. They're engaging in activities that are
only helping the other side. They feel like this is
their moment, and again they're looking for imagery. They're looking
to try and put things in a direct I mean

(25:54):
when it comes right down to where they were hoping
to have the military parade in DC. Instead of that
being about the anniversary of the army and celebrating that,
they kept trying to make this about.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
Oh it's Donald Trump's birthday. Lookout him acting like.

Speaker 8 (26:08):
He's a dictator, and that's the type of propaganda and
imagery they want to use. That's part of why they
picked tomorrow as well. But at the end of the day,
like you said, I think the majority of Americans, especially
those that are not card carrying true believers but willfully
ignored the activities of these folks previously, they're really starting

(26:30):
to wake up to it too, and they're not down
with this. They didn't sign up with this, and they
don't like it anymore than we do. And it's amazing
to watch some of these folks in the media wake
up to it. You've got CNN in shock that legal
immigrants are upset and are supporting Trump in this situation.

(26:53):
They're upset at you have a newsom to see these
people finally realizing that there is a right way to
do things and they're on the wrong side of the arguments.
They have been throwing out these push polls that are
so carefully, meticulously worded to try and force the responses
they want, and then they throw it out like they're

(27:14):
winning the argument when they don't even have enough people
responding to the polls now and the people they just know,
they just know the only people that aren't aware. Are
the folks that aren't paying attention, and even they're starting
to see this stuff, Michael. Yesterday at my day job,
I had several people asking me because for the first

(27:36):
time here they started seeing these efforts on social media
to get people to sign up for the No King stuff.
They're like, what's this and why do I am? I
instantly suspicious of it? Like, well, those are good instincts.
You should be suspicious. These people are up to no
good and they're just trying to get you to sign up,
if for no other reason, to try and pretend like

(27:57):
there's a lot more people dedicated to this, cause we
are almost out of time, Michael, as much as I
hate it, because there's so much more we can get into.
Final thoughts and then please feel free to once again
share the website for invest USA, and while you're at it,
feel free to let people know where they can go
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right now is a really good time for folks if
they haven't already picked up a copy, to get one
and read it because this is what we're up against.

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now America. We have a bright future ahead, but only
if we stand together united. Let's finish this off and
get it done and have victory and move forward.

Speaker 9 (29:53):
Break tomorrow, all right, and thank you Michael Bickers.

Speaker 8 (29:58):
Like I mentioned at the top, you are a servant leader,
and your servant first. You're out here doing everything you can,
not just to make sure police officers return home safely,
but that's just phase one of making sure that all
of America is safer each day and each night. God
speed to you, sir, and I look forward to our
next discussion.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Look forward to as well. God bless you, God bless America.
Have a great weekend you too.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen. That was Michael A.

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Lets for those of you who are listening to the
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All Right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so very much
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He is a historian and an author. Lads and gentlemen,
please welcome back to the show, mister Anton Shak and
sir welcome back. Thank you so much for joining us
once again. Before we get into anything at all, how

(39:59):
are you today?

Speaker 7 (40:00):
Hi?

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Pretty good, tim How are you? How's it going there?

Speaker 8 (40:06):
Well, other than dodging some thunderstorms which I think may
have finally got past me, it's been a pretty good day,
all right, Sack, let's go ahead and jump in. You know,
there's a lot of stress on the international stage right now.

(40:28):
Israel of course, made their move against Iran overnight, and
a lot of people were worked up when they were
seeing the signs that maybe something was going to happen,
when we started recalling personnel from embassies in the area,
and they talked a lot about the possibility of this
being a trigger point and that Russia being a longtime

(40:50):
ally of Iran because of the oil sharing situation that's
existed there for a while, they thought that would draw
them in. But Russia still has their hands full with
dealing with things going on between them and Ukraine, so
I think that's still well worth the discussing to this point,
I would love to get your take on exactly where

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things are at and what your thoughts have been since
watching this Battle of Broden strikes right before peace talks
were supposed to start.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Yeah, we've had all throughout our history. Just to introduce
this idea, the people that wanted to build the country
sought to avoid foreign wars. Those two things go together.
They want the nationalists, the national interest seekers were peace

(41:45):
loving people and they had they wanted a strong military.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
But avoid war.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
And so.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
On the other side, there has long existed an imperial
globalist faction that wants to prevent sovereign, independent nations all
over the world, the rise of self sufficient countries that
that could be friends and that would have no use
for overlords. And you know, the people that build our

(42:14):
country felt that only God should be above us all,
not rules set by any globalists. So now you have
a faction that runs from Britain to a set of
people here in the US, to Israel, to the EU

(42:35):
and a particular it is a particular faction, and this
faction has a hierarchy. Really if you go to the
to the really big shots in the financial system and
so forth, and they want they very fearful that Donald
Trump would would go succeed to reindustrialize our country and

(42:59):
to shut the wars down, UH and and really to
break up this offshore banking system which is our enemy.
We have a constitution, we have we have our own
national interests. So if you look at these two escalations
right after one after another, the first one in where

(43:20):
Ukraine sent drones into Russia and hid them there and
then launched attacks on Russian strategic bombers, destabilizing the whole
nuclear balance between US and Russia. Crazy idea. This was
run by the British directly. The Russians acknowledged that, and

(43:41):
and really that's that's the that's the facts on the ground.
And then the Israelis had the same mo in Iran.
There was no direct threat from Iran. Uh Trump was
trying to work deals with Iran, China, and Russia. These

(44:01):
countries could be our enemies or they could be we
could cooperate and seek our own interests. So he was
elected to reindustrialize our country, to put America first, and
that means looking at our national interest, which is really

(44:21):
every country has that same national interest not to be
in constant crisis. So what I would like to do
to show you what I mean by this is to
go through just a little bit about how you would
how you would reindustrialize our country. What does that mean,
and how does that threaten these insane war monitors, these

(44:46):
people that have never put the US first, and going
back to the founding of the country, they were on
the Tory side, and these are the people that got
us in wars, unnecessary wars, and did not defend our
countr try, but rather promoted instability all over the world.
You know, we just on Iran. Franklin Roosevelt had a

(45:10):
plan to develop Iran at the end of World War Two.
Eisenhower had Atoms for Peace, for the peaceful uses of
nuclear energy for Iran and other countries. John Kennedy had
the idea of nuclear power plants, not nuclear bombs. These
countries shouldn't have nuclear bombs, but that we we would

(45:32):
have the common interest of Israel and the Arabs, Us
and Russia, Pakistan and India by pursuing our own interests
in developing these these these kinds of technologies that we need,
particularly nuclear power. So that's my take on.

Speaker 8 (45:54):
It, Okay, I mean, it's clearly a situation where it
became apparent, at least when it comes to Ukraine and Russia,
that there was no interest on at least one side
here to achieve a peaceful solution. When we look at

(46:15):
Ukraine and we look at Zelensky in particular, there have
been multiple occasions where it looks like political missteps.

Speaker 9 (46:24):
But if it's not a misstep.

Speaker 8 (46:28):
If it was indeed intentional, that certainly could be the case,
and it certainly could look that way when you see
the same mistake happening over and over again. So is
that your general feeling that Zelensky's having his strings pulled
or I'm sorry, go ahead, I.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Think that was.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
Zelensky is a politician.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
But the.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
Interest of Ukraine, you know, people, some people said, well,
Ukraine should be part of Europe, not in the Russian orbit.
What does Europe, Western Europe have to offer?

Speaker 4 (47:09):
What does the US have to offer?

Speaker 5 (47:11):
But look at Western Europe, Germany in particular, these countries
under the radical Green agenda, which is these bankers and globalists,
they have shut down much of their industrial economy. They
have banned nuclear power plants in Germany, they have ruined

(47:34):
themselves with various kinds of not just woke, but deeper
insanities than that even and so what do they have
to offer are they Are they offering the people who
want to get out of poverty or want to grow
their economies a way to do that. No, the Russians
and the Chinese, even Iran, uh, you know, want to

(47:59):
promote their own advanced heavy industry and nuclear power and
the space program things like that. Why should we give
up those things to suit some professor in Cambridge University
or some bureaucrat in Brussels, or some idiot who believes

(48:25):
that wonder weapons are the same thing as having a
powerful military and a real industrial base. Those people are
not competent. We used to be the leading competent nation.
Europe was the center of industry, and we were the
ones who introduced many of the leading industries in the world,

(48:46):
and we gave it up. That's our future, if we
have one. So the interests of Ukraine are not in
being jammed up against Russia to provoke them and to
try to joy Russia. You know, the British cooked up
World War One and a whole series of destabilizations that

(49:08):
ended up with massive deaths in World Wars one and
two and communism in Russia to try to stop Germany
and Russia from being strong countries in alliance with the
USA like they were in the nineteenth century. Both of
those were our friends. So we need to return to

(49:28):
our own self interests. What would you say about the
following the following program for reindustrializing our country. First of all,
you're going to have to have very strong building of infrastructure,
and by that I mean not you know, clean energy

(49:49):
mandates or electric vehicle mandates. It means you have to
have steelmaking, you have to have high speed trains in cities,
the transport completely new and modern city transports.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
You have to have uh uh.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Water programs to bring fresh water where we need it,
and that includes dams.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
UH.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
You're going you're going to need to have tax credits
as well as tariffs two uh make and the the
uh direction of credit for productive industry. You're gonna have
to shut down this offshore criminal banking uh operation which
has uncountable trillions of drug money and UH phony uh

(50:43):
uh derivatives UH. And that's where the credit is uh.
And you can't avoid these people and there and they're
assumed power over our country. They're the people that want
to have war and destabilization because if you had people
calmly assessing and building up economies, they would be out

(51:05):
of business. There's no need for those people. So that's
that's the kind of thing that we need.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
And we need the deep space program. We in particular
need nuclear energy, and we're going to need an educational
program that is geared to resuming a productive life. Imagine
that kind of an emphasis in our country and what
a threat that is to the establishment that has that

(51:37):
has put itself as overlords over us to tell us
that we have to give us up faith in God
and faith in man, that faith in problem in our
problem solving abilities. They said, you have to give that up.
You have you have to have a dismal and dystopian future.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
You know.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
They give us these science fiction stories about the world
after nuclear war and things like that. We don't need that.
We need a confident future without constant crisis. And if
somebody tells you that man is born to sorrow and
has to always have wars and there will always be

(52:23):
poor people with us, and they cite the Bible and
of course leaving out the Ten Commandments and leaving out love,
and leaving out you know, the sanctity of the individual.
It's just based on lies. So we have a few
a proud past that gives us a future. And that's

(52:47):
what I've tried to outline in these volumes. Who we
are the first one on the founding up to the
eighteen fifties, and then the second one the whole Lincoln
Ere in the development of our heavy end street and
how we took world leadership, not by imperialism, not by
bullying anybody. The world leadership was in our industry, our

(53:11):
tech technical abilities, are skilled labor force, our scientific farmers,
our private property and farming. Uh, you know, the the
individual businesses and the skilled workers in industry that had
high wages. Imagine what would happen to these globalists if

(53:32):
we had that kind of the wage differential between us
in Mexico solved by by having investments going into high
wage industry in Mexico and Central America while we built
up our own high wage industry. Those guys, those globalists

(53:53):
and their drug cartels which they run through their through
the bank money laundering, they'd be out of business. We
don't need them to bosses around the world doesn't need
their so called rules, the rules based order that's anti God.
So that's my take on this situation. We don't need

(54:14):
these wars. We have to shut them down.

Speaker 8 (54:18):
Well, when you talk about building the infrastructure, when you
talk about finding positive ways to eliminate corruption from the
banking system, you would be hard pressed to find any
reasonable thinking person to disagree with any of that unless
that was cutting against their interest, which means that they

(54:44):
are the bad guys. You're absolutely right, And what I
like most about your Who We Are series, even though
we're only two volumes in, is you are trying to
remind us about that high minded principle in which we
base the founding that made this nation, that bright, shining

(55:04):
beacon on the hill that other nations wanted to to
aspire to.

Speaker 9 (55:10):
We can't be that if these other people are in charge.
You're absolutely right on those points.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
And they try to They try to keep us away
from that kind of ambition to do great things. They
try to divertise from that by fear, fear of people
that we don't understand or don't know, conflict with other people,

(55:37):
like we had the conflicts with the Indians here, which
was really in most instances was unnecessary. There was plenty
of land for everybody. We didn't need to attack settled
Native American agricultural communities and the British. From the very

(55:59):
first time that we had colonies in Virginia and Massachusetts,
particularly in Virginia, they tried to pit the races against
each other. They would arm the Indians and agitate the
white people to attack them, so they would be attacking
each other. With the blessing of these these scoundrels in

(56:20):
London who were running slaves and running attacks on India
and Ireland and other countries. Our interest was to have
friendship with the people we found here, to build up
a new society, and to encourage the people that we
found here as natives to join us in what we

(56:40):
had accomplished in Europe and then more in America, and
to give them a helping hand because we're changing their
way of life. So to the extent that we don't
do these things and we fall short, we're not fulfilling
the ideals in the Founding. But we shouldn't. We shouldn't

(57:01):
simply say we have those ideals didn't exist and can't exist.
That's what they teach us now. They claim that you
can never have actual progress of humanity. It's built in
to fail and you always need powerful, you know, hierarchies
to you know, keep us from tearing each other apart.

(57:24):
That sort of thing. That's that's false, it's satanic.

Speaker 12 (57:28):
You know.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
Our are our history, the history of our accomplishments, not
only in America, but going back in European civilization and
in other civilizations all throughout time. The advancements of people
came from those who were idealists, and we were excited

(57:50):
to become skilled and have this powerful resolution of mind
to solve problems using knowledge of nature and cooperation with
other people to form a good community that had objectives
of the advancement of the whole community.

Speaker 8 (58:10):
All right, based on well, I'm so sorry, but we
are out of time. I would love to continue the conversation.
We need to get back together and do it with
a few remaining seconds. Please let everybody know where they
can go to pick up their copies of the new book,
Who We Are Americas Fight for Universal Progress.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
It's go on Amazon. You can also ask any bookstore
to order it, but on Amazon dot Com has Kindle,
electronic and paperbacks. The new volume two is actually six
hundred pages with forty eight pages of pictures. Everything is documented.
You can follow the sources, but buy it. And also,

(58:54):
you know, I'd like to work with some homeschoolers and
get in touch with me infod Anton Shaking dot com
and let's work together to get this, uh, this monkey
off of our back, these globalists and these guys trying
to destroy us with these wars.

Speaker 8 (59:13):
Absolutely all right, again, thank you so much for coming
on with us. I appreciate all that, and we'll definitely
have you back again and we'll continue this conversation because
you are absolutely right in the meanwhile, God speed to
you and look forward to talking again.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Bless you, Thank you very much.

Speaker 9 (59:31):
All Right, ladies and.

Speaker 8 (59:32):
Gentlemen, that was mister Anton shaken and in the meanwhile,
we've got to reset the hour, so you guys don't
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of course was also the host of Steel Truth Ladies
and gentlemen, please welcome co founder of American Made Foundation,
Miss Ann vander Steel, and thank you so much for
coming on with us today.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
How are you.

Speaker 17 (01:04:47):
It's great to be with you. Yeah, what a what
a Friday the thirteenth. This is turning out to be.

Speaker 8 (01:04:53):
Absolutely Now. I'll let you in on a little secret though.
I kind of like this particular Friday the thirteenth, but
only because it's in June.

Speaker 9 (01:05:01):
It happens to be my birthday. So having a little
celebration in the middle of all this wackiness, it feels
a problem birthday. Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:05:12):
Let's jump right into the primary topics. I mean, there's
so many things going on, it's easy to forget that
other things are happening. I mean, we're all focused on
the la Riots, and on Israel and Iran, and of
course still some concerns about what's happening with Russia and Ukraine,
and it's really really important for us to keep the

(01:05:33):
eye on the ball things that fortunately, items like your organization,
American Maid Foundation, are keeping an eye on it for us.
Like will or will not the Supreme Court finally decide
to pick up and give us a final determination when
it involves Section two thirty and the constitutionality of whether

(01:05:59):
or not certain organizations let's I don't know, let's say Facebook,
for example, can can just shut us down because they
feel like we're a threat or competitor.

Speaker 17 (01:06:11):
Correct, I mean, you know again, free speech is everything,
and with everything that's happening right now currently in the
news cycle, you know, the need for free speech is
ever more important because war is deception, tim and the
amount of information and misinformation and truly disinformation that's flying
around the Internet right now is designed to keep everybody confused,

(01:06:33):
off and off balance and to destabilize the world. There
is a massive financial reset underway. Bricks countries are already
settling in gold as they're trading with one another, and
as trade and balance is accrew twice a year, those
countries settle their trade imbalances in gold. Meanwhile, the Western Nations,

(01:06:54):
NATO countries and Western Allies quote unquote allies are still
dealing in fiat currency and we are at the end
of that life cycle. And so really COVID was about that.
The Fourth Industrial Revolutionist Clouds Squad said you loone nothing
and be happy. It is clearly underway, and the bankers
that are behind all of this are bankrupt. The city

(01:07:15):
of London is bankrupt, hence the Ukraine War, and hence
what we see happening with between Iran and Israel right now.
It's a lot to break down, but overall, at the
end of the day, it always comes back to power
and money, and these trade routes are critical to both.
And so this is why we see ourselves in the
situation that we're in. But if we can understand that

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fundamentally and the need to have the ability to talk
about it clearly and concisely. Free speech, our first amendment
is fundamentalist. So why it's the first amendment in our
Bill of rights. It's numero uno. Without free speech, how
do we have the rest?

Speaker 9 (01:07:52):
Absolutely?

Speaker 8 (01:07:53):
I mean, we're constantly bombarded by the the lie that
people stand for free speech, and then they only really
want to stand for the speech that agrees with their
point of view, and then they want.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
To silence or squash the rest of us.

Speaker 8 (01:08:12):
I feel like I'm watching The Princess Bride all of
a sudden, and I'm seeing this one scene. What you
keep using this word, I do not think it means
what you think it means. Only we know they do
know exactly what they're up to. And part of that is,
as you pointed out, confusion and disinformation. They're constantly trying
to take advantage of people that aren't paying close enough

(01:08:34):
attention or who simply as Unfortunately, we have a couple
of generations of youngsters in this country that have grown
up now where instead of education, they've been indoctrinated, and
this indoctrination has included a deliberate attempt to prevent them
to even learn how to utilize critical thinking.

Speaker 17 (01:08:54):
That's right, that's exactly right, and sadly, you know, well,
let's just say positively as in Trump recognized that, which
is why he put Linda McMahon as the Secretary of Education,
and she promptly did what she was asked to do,
which was basically work herself out of a job by
abolishing the Department of Education. But you know, when you
look past that, you look at what the judicial system

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is doing. We have a we have tyranny ruling over
our courts at the moment, and frankly, there's a case
right now that has been presented in a writ of
Cerciori with because briefs attaching it that'll be decided coming
up this Wednesday, the eighteenth of June, whether or not
the Supreme Court is going to take up this writ

(01:09:38):
of Cerciori and hear the case. It's Thick versus Facebook.
This is the third time Jason Sick, who is challenging Facebook,
is going back to the Supreme Court. This time He's
got three amicus briefs won by our organization, American Maid.
We have General Flynn and his organization America's Future, and
David Morgan. We all have our own set of additional

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interested parties signing onto these amachus so they bring a
lot of weight with this challenge to the Supreme Court
regarding how the courts are interpreting the Communications Decency Act
Section two thirty of nineteen ninety six, for which the
Ninth Circuit has been misinterpreting what the Communications Decency Act

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is in terms of a textual error. Believe it or not,
the entire argument is coming down to the words the
thch versus a the publisher versus a publisher. And when
you know when you have that minute of a discrepancy
between the interpretation of whether or not you are treating

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platforms like Facebook as the publisher versus a publisher and
it can be misinterpreted by the courts, and you have
three other circuit courts using similar challenges properly interpreting Section
two thirty, You've got conflict the outcomes. That's why this
is going back to the Supreme Court. We've got to
solve this. We've got a correct the judicial interpretation of

(01:11:06):
Section two thirty because it does work, it does protect
free speech. So we're going to go back. We're going
to make sure that free speech is protected, because what
we see happening right now with Iran and Israel and
Ukraine and everything else going on with the Chinese, et cetera.
If we don't have free speech, how we is Americans
going to be able to have informed consent to make

(01:11:26):
decisions that are going to be for the betterment of
our families, future safety, et cetera.

Speaker 8 (01:11:31):
Right, I mean, you're absolutely correct preaching to the choir
in this case. I mean, I'm sitting here utilizing my
free speech at the moment and trying to help get
this message out, and again, I thank you for joining
and helping.

Speaker 9 (01:11:44):
To bring it plane.

Speaker 8 (01:11:46):
Devil's Advocate temporarily, though, Let's go back to the idea
that each one of these platforms has the authority to
police and make determinations and set rules and community standards.

Speaker 9 (01:11:59):
Blah blah.

Speaker 8 (01:12:01):
If that's the case, and I'll let you address that too.
I do myself tend to make the case that that
goes out the window once you achieve your goal to
becoming the town square, which is what Facebook held for
a little while X formerly Twitter certainly did for a bit,
and it's what all the other social media platforms hope

(01:12:22):
to do. But with that having been said, again, I
want to get your reaction to that devil's advocate question,
because we hear it from them all the time. We
just know they don't set those rules and then apply
them fairly. If they did, would they have a legitimate argument.

Speaker 17 (01:12:40):
Well, let's just let's look at it from the you know,
from a very granular level. If that's okay, right, I've
just gone over the versus a publisher where platforms would
not be liable. Platforms should not be liable for what
others say. But the incorrect reading of the section two
thirty is saying platforms are never liable for anything, even

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when they alter, prioritize, or suppress speech. So platforms are
not supposed to bea the minute platforms start addressing and
changing your content and altering and boosting or deboosting, they
are now becoming a publisher, so that takes the liability
and it doesn't. They're no longer immunized from liability. And
when you look at under basic statutory interpretation, where no

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part of this law should be rendered superfluous. In other words,
if section two thirties c One already protects all moderation actions,
then section two thirtys c Two, which requires a good
faith for content restriction, becomes meaningless. In other words, courts
are ignoring the distinction and they've gutted the entire statute structure.

(01:13:49):
The other part that's really abusive in all of this is,
of course, the misuse of the word development.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
What does that mean?

Speaker 17 (01:13:56):
So if section two thirty says an information content provider
like say Facebook or Twitter or whoever, is an entity
that is responsible in whole or in part but the
creation or development of content, courts have actually been incorrectly
ruling stating that only creating new content qualified, but development

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including the organizing of that content that you published, or
the prioritizing of your content, meaning they.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
Boosted it up.

Speaker 17 (01:14:24):
Or de boosted it, or they removed it all together,
or they filtered it. All those actions should make a
platform partially responsible as a co publisher. The problem is
they weren't being treated like that. They they were being
given immunity. So this is where the Ninth Circuit and
Jason Fix's lawsuit against Facebook was completely misapplying Section two thirty,

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and they were immunizing all platforms regardless. They were immunizing Facebook,
regardless whether Facebook de boosted or eliminated or whatever they
did to the content. They were just treating them like
a plan old publisher when in fact Facebook was engaging.
I'm sorry, they were treating Facebook like a platform, when
in fact Facebook was acting like a publisher because they
were rearranging Jason's fixed content. So if we don't actually

(01:15:08):
handle that, Tim, we are going to have real problems
going forward across the media cycle, the news cycle, legacy media,
all of it. And as you know, the Smith Mounth
Modernization Act under twenty twelve's Obama's signature, they turned media
into a propaganda arm for the United States government. And
this has been a big problem for us going forward,

(01:15:30):
particularly as we're going into what looks like World War
three at this point.

Speaker 8 (01:15:36):
Yeah, it certainly would appear as if there's at the
very least an effort.

Speaker 9 (01:15:40):
To touch off at such a high level of civil.

Speaker 8 (01:15:44):
Unrest within the country here that they would love to
be able to control and manipulate what's being passed around
through social media. And that's what I love about when
you take to an issue, you just very succinctly made

(01:16:05):
such a great and easy to layman understand explanation. I
myself have tried explaining that difference for quite a time,
and I always feel like I fall short. That was fantastic.
So what is your expectation when it comes to June eighteenth?

(01:16:26):
Do you feel like the Supreme Court is likely to
take up this case and finally do this, Because my
fear is that there's a certain current Chief Justice who
tends to get pretty squishy about important things that have
to do with both the constitutionality of an issue and
the social issues within the country at the time. I

(01:16:49):
think he probably tried, he tries to find a way
to punt this back to the lower courts and avoid it,
and I hope that's not the case. But still, you're
a lot closer to this than I am, what's your
general impressions.

Speaker 17 (01:17:05):
Well, you know, we submitted this. The amicus was submitted
on the twenty eighth of May, and we heard from
the Supreme Court on June fourth, which was really rather
shocking that we were going to be told we would
hear something on June eighteenth. In other words, less than
a week later, we were told that the Supreme Court

(01:17:28):
would be making their decision on the rit of Circiori
on June eighteenth. We weren't even expecting to hear anything
at all and acknowledgment until probably end of June early July.
So the fact that they're expediting this in light of
everything that's happening right now, I look at as a positive.
But again, you know, when I look at the Biden judiciary,

(01:17:52):
that two hundred and thirty five federal judges that he
installed before he left, and the insane decisions that they're
making around everything, particularly when it comes to Title ten
and to treating these illegals that are in this country
that should not be here right now because they've broke
the law getting here, including our own governments who allow
them to break the law and are breaking the law

(01:18:12):
again by giving them you know, tax payer money and
funding them. This whole thing is so upside down, inside
out and insane. I don't want to put the cart
before the horse. All I can say is the American people,
the court of public opinion, have to be loud and
proud and demand that their first amendment, the most important
amendment we have, be upheld by the Supreme Court. And

(01:18:34):
the Supreme Court must hear this case. We already have
three other circuit courts in conflict with the Ninth So
the Thick versus Facebook, which has been sitting in the
Ninth Circuit now since twenty eighteen, is in conflict with
three other similar cases in the third, fourth, and fifth districts.
So let's our third, fourth, and fifth circuits, excuse me,

(01:18:55):
let's correct this. Let's make sure the interpretation of the
section two thirty is done proper so that your speech,
my speech, anybody who's been a victim of spacebook, censorship,
of fact checkers, of whatever is protected. We should not
be victims to this at all. And this is why
I believe the Supreme Court is going to finally hear
this case, because the Court of public opinion is getting

(01:19:17):
louder on the issue, and you know. If there's one
thing we know about DC swamp rafts, they do have
something for self preservation. And so when the court of
public opinion gets loud enough, I believe they're going to act.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
Well.

Speaker 8 (01:19:31):
I certainly hope to, because, as you pointed out, this
is extremely important. It has been put on the back
burner for a long time. And if you're even just
not only just the dead set center, if you're just
a little bit left of center, you have faced some
level of censorship on the primary platforms. I mean, you

(01:19:54):
may not be aware of it, you may not have
noticed it. I myself, I've been so ridiculously thrilled back
on Facebook that I have seriously considered just leaving it
at all completely.

Speaker 9 (01:20:05):
But there's still a few folks that that is the
way I still get to communicate back and forth. So
I haven't abandoned it yet.

Speaker 8 (01:20:14):
But we shouldn't be forced to have to abandon where
the media platforms are most active. We shouldn't have to
leave x we shouldn't have to leave Facebook, we shouldn't
have to leave Instagram if that's your thing.

Speaker 9 (01:20:28):
We shouldn't have to.

Speaker 8 (01:20:29):
Seek out the parlors and the gabs and the Pickaxe
and all these other which are perfectly fine platforms for
everything from getter to truth social. Whatever you want to do,
and if you want to supplement it, it's fine, but
you shouldn't be forced to leave because you're simply not
allowed to deliver your message myself and I can only

(01:20:52):
imagine what you've witnessed during your time. But I literally
went from being able to put a simple post up
and having at least twelve hundred engagements on the low
end to now there are some stuff that I've put up.
I'm lucky to get into double digits. That doesn't just

(01:21:14):
happen because everyone loses interest, correct.

Speaker 17 (01:21:19):
And that's that's been my world. On Facebook, I've given
up on it. I hit twenty two thousand followers ten
years ago and it's never grown on three hundred and
sixty two thousand followers on x you know, I've been
deep platformed off YouTube three times, four times, I believe.
Actually I've been deplatformed even off Rumble. I've been deplatformed
off Twitter three times. So I've given up on on

(01:21:40):
you know, Facebook, for sure, it does absolutely zero for me.
At the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 17 (01:21:46):
If we don't stand up and you know, and demand
that we are allowed to be heard, and that the
government stops delegating you know, its authority over over over
the issues to third party you know, prior companies. Then
we only have ourselves to blame. The Constitution is really
clear on this tim We the people, not we the government.

(01:22:08):
Not we the US in the United States Congress, not
we the World Economic Forum, or we the Department of
Homeland Security, any agency.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
We the people.

Speaker 17 (01:22:16):
We are the government. This is our job to hold
these people accountable. And the Declaration of independence is really clear.
If it gets to the point where they're no longer
you know, providing what we need, it's our incumbent duty
to alter, abolish. And I believe that the American people
are getting wise to this and we're getting fed up.
And when you have people walking down the streets burning

(01:22:37):
the American flag, carrying the flag of the country from
which they claim to have fled, and chanting death to America,
I'm sorry, you know this is these are problems, and
my free speech and my ability to comment on that
should not be silenced, censored or threatened because I'm being
threatened by somebody who doesn't even that's not even here. Legally,
we have got to get a grip as a country

(01:22:58):
when it comes to law and order. President Trump is
clear about this, the law and order country. You're a
law or president. I'm still waiting for the law and
order to return, but first we have to get the
speech down. So this is why this argument in this
case is so critically important.

Speaker 8 (01:23:12):
Absolutely well, and I want to thank you again for
coming on and spending some of your very valuable time
with us talking tonight. Please let everybody know where they
can find the American Maid Foundation. Feel free to share
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(01:23:32):
any final closing thoughts you would like to add on
to what you've already said.

Speaker 17 (01:23:38):
Thank you, Tim. You can find us at Americanmaidfoundation dot org.
We also have an action arm American Maadeaction dot org
where you can actually with one click, actually take action
and send notices to Congress, to Fanbondi, etc. And then
of course everything that I put out is at an
Vandersdeel dot com if you follow all of my social

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media there and to to the people that are listening
on your incredible channel, you don't give up hope, keep
the faith, keep fighting our founding fathers sacrifice everything, we
stand on the shoulders of giants, and it's our civic
duties to continue to fight for freedom, because as the
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(01:24:21):
this is our finest hour as our country looks into
the dark abyss of what we are facing tomorrow sad Today,
the President's birthday in this big, beautiful military parade is
going to be challenged by fifteen hundred protests around the country.
But we don't stand down. We stand up in the
face of adversity. So you know, I hope everybody can
appreciate that and join me on that sentiment.

Speaker 8 (01:24:44):
All right, I certainly believe that the overwhelming majority of
people listening here tonight already do again. Thank you so much, Ann,
and hopefully we can get back together and continue the
conversation down the line. In the meanwhile, God blessed.

Speaker 9 (01:24:59):
Keep up the great world, and love your substack too.
By the way, thank you, so thank you so much.

Speaker 17 (01:25:05):
Thank you. I appreciate you, Tim, God bless you.

Speaker 8 (01:25:08):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, and vander still you know
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their fears or concern was that eventually people would come
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creation of the Tenth Amendment, which now the political left
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tear down the nation as a holder. They basically twisted
away the precepts and the concepts of being a constitutionally
fed rated republic as.

Speaker 9 (01:26:01):
We were founded.

Speaker 8 (01:26:03):
And if we can't speak freely, if we can't express ourselves,
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ground to work with. That was the whole thing that
made social media special as far as conservatives in this country.
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you know what, we're being sold to build goods from
the legacy media, the legacy corporate media, was trying to

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pretend like the entirety of this country were uber leftists,
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ones and we were the crazy ones. We were alone,
and that gave us an opportunity to discover that guess
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office is still the majority, a powerful majority. We just
have to remember that with our voices, we can save
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Oh right, Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so very much
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So very glad to have you along for the ride.
Been a great show so far.

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I think Michael let's uh let off with a great
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(01:36:39):
time to bring on our next guest. He is a
veteran and I think he has embraced the title of
warrior poet at this point. He's the author of Down
River Memoir of a Warrior Poet. And there's a lot
of things I could say about him, but I think
you're gonna get everything you need to know about him

(01:37:02):
when you hear him start talking. Ladies and gentlemen, please
welcome for the first time to Tap into the truth
mister Ryan McDermott. Dryan, thank you so much for coming
on with us tonight.

Speaker 9 (01:37:14):
How are you.

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
Today, Tim, I'm doing great.

Speaker 22 (01:37:16):
How are you doing.

Speaker 8 (01:37:18):
I'm doing pretty well. I've managed to dodge several storms
that rolled through earlier and minimal damage and that's always
a plus, especially here recently, lots of craziness going on
out there, So glad to be safe here. I just
you know, I saw the opportunity to have you come on,

(01:37:40):
and I thought you would be the perfect person to
finish up my last show going into this weekend. It's
because a lot of what you talk about in the
memoir and a lot of what you address when you
speak publicly, focuses on how you adjust and how you

(01:38:02):
deal with the tough situations that come in life. Now,
you had to face extreme versions of that, but you
recognize that lots of people face their own kind of
stresses and that PTSD is a thing that isn't just
limited to veterans. It's literally something that you directly have
said in the past, and I feel like you're a

(01:38:25):
perfect person to help deliver a Father's Day message as
we go into my final segment tonight, because it's important
that we see a resurgence of the role of fatherhood
into the American family, because it's an essence that's been
missing in a lot of families for a while, and
our culture has taken a serious hit because of it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:38:49):
Absolutely, And you know that's a message you know, Downriver
Memoir of a Warrior put my story is you know,
is about it doesn't lead up and includes the Iraq
War in two thousand and three, my subsequent journey to
Lehman Brothers in eight and the battles that sort of
followed me home PTSD Folt, you know, and you know,
the burdens of not the opportunity of fatherhood, but also

(01:39:11):
the long road to healing. You know again, I you know,
I led an infantry platoon and you know, into Iraq
and at twenty four years of age, right after my
firstborn was was brought into the world, and so the
first year, it's sort of nine months of his life,
I was deployed, you know, and I later on went
out to success in Wall Street. But you know, this

(01:39:31):
Father's Day, you know, this book is really a tribute
not just to the dads who served, but to all fathers,
you know, carrying invisible burdens, you know, the burdens of
being a provider, you know, importance of being present in
our children's lives. It's about breaking. This book is about
breaking the silence and suing strength you know, sort of

(01:39:54):
comes from a place of vulnerability and sort of you know,
letting you know, get in my sense, the spiritual aspect
of it, relying upon that.

Speaker 8 (01:40:05):
Yeah, yeah, you talked a lot too about the script
that a lot of us older folks have been familiar with.
I know a lot of the people that are listening tonight,
they're going to know exactly what I'm talking about. When
we say, all right, you're a man, you don't cry,

(01:40:26):
You don't let them see you even start to falter.
You have to be the perfect defender. You have to
be the perfect leader, and you have to provide no
matter what. And if you'll let them see you weak,
it's only gonna hurt them. There's a lot of folks
that have taken that to heart, and it is a

(01:40:46):
struggle when things get rough, and it is part of
why it's been so easy, I think for so many
folks to just kind of check out. We don't get
that kind of support that we need. Quietly anymore. Our
culture has moved towards something the quick and easy path,

(01:41:07):
the easiest way out. What makes this so few people
even have the gumption anymore to have signed up and served.

Speaker 9 (01:41:17):
As you did.

Speaker 7 (01:41:17):
And it.

Speaker 8 (01:41:21):
Is one of those topics where I start kind of
stumbling over my own words because there's so many things
that I feel like need to be expressed in this
conversation and I can't even quite get to where.

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
We need to go.

Speaker 8 (01:41:33):
But you've done an excellent job of encapsulating all this
just by telling your own story, and there have been
a lot of people impressed by your memoir. It's more
than just your story, though, it is really something that
touches the soul, which is why I think referring to

(01:41:55):
yourself as a warrior poet is so apropos, because there
is poet a tree in the pros there's beauty within
the struggle, and you managed to enlighten that in a
very unique way.

Speaker 9 (01:42:08):
I'm extremely impressed.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 22 (01:42:12):
Yeah, you know this, And I think one of the
one of the places I think to go with this
conversation is how this came about. So I started writing
in the when I was at West Point over twenty five,
nearly thirty years ago. My parents, my mother and stepfather,
divorced during my senior year of high school. Very disruptive
to that sort of transition year as I was getting

(01:42:35):
ready to go to college. And in long story short,
my mother ended up in a woman shelter for a
period of time while I was at West Point, and
so I turned to writing journaling to sort of channel
that h sort of my emotions about it into sort
of for Catharsis, and I eventually, you know, West Point
actually has you know, teaches, you know, a lot about

(01:42:57):
military stuff, but they also you know, sort of instruct
on literature and reading poetry, actually lost Shakespeare, and so
I started and I started writing then some of the
poetry as I explored my faith and and you know,
kind of continuing on, you know, I continued to write
over the years. When I got back from the Iraq War,

(01:43:18):
I wrote chapters on the Iraq War. And then after
I went to work on Wall Street and I lost
my job after the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers. I was
part of the last associate class at Lehman Brothers. I
wrote the chapters of that of that part and so
it was really for me, and then it wasn't until

(01:43:39):
later on that I was trying to make sense the
story that I realized that my life, my journey, is
really just prologue to my children's journey, and that kind
of wrapping up. The whole point of the book in
a sense, was about becoming a better father and to
really try to be and to be present in my
kid's life to make sure that they were on the

(01:44:00):
right track. And so the way the book wraps up
in its sort of completion is my son Brandon, who
just graduated West Point, wrote the afterword and his perspective
on things, So you know, we can kind of go
from there if you'd like. But that's kind of how
this book came about. And I wanted to put it
out there because I know I struggled, and the hardest

(01:44:20):
part I think any dad has when we're sort of
struggling silently is we feel alone. You know, we have
to shield. We don't want the world to know that
we were struggling. And so I wanted to put this
out because there was a guy I knew a couple
of years ago, veteran took his own life, and you know,
I felt like if this person knew that there were
other people's struggles, maybe it could help bridge that sort

(01:44:44):
of connection.

Speaker 8 (01:44:46):
Yeah, I think people underestimate the power of just sharing
your story. Anytime that I've talked within groups that do
that kind of sharing, they have such a strong bond
and it does build them up better. So the idea

(01:45:06):
of writing this and sharing it is absolutely dead on.
But it's not just the struggle in silence. It's also
the fact that we see in our keep referencing the culture.
But because that is really what I feel like, has

(01:45:27):
kind of become self destructive. We've seen fatherhood become a joke.
There are very few positive depictions of fatherhood anywhere in
the imagery. And then this idea too that we're generally
implanted with, especially if you were a warrior. You know,

(01:45:49):
you put on a uniform and you served, and there
seems to be that extra thing that you should be
able to carry on, You should be able to move forward.
You have to achieve the goal no matter what else
happens around you. And sometimes the difference between making it
the next fifteen minutes and seeing the light of the
new day is in knowing that you can share that

(01:46:11):
burden because somebody else does understand how.

Speaker 9 (01:46:14):
You feel because they feel the same way.

Speaker 4 (01:46:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:46:17):
Absolutely, And you know that that creates a connection. There's
other you know, there's a gentleman who who served as
a veteran. I gave him an early read on my book.
I wanted to sort of get his sort of his
his feeling of it.

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
And I didn't know much. You know, we had you know,
not to go and and give too much.

Speaker 22 (01:46:34):
Of who you know, who it is. But the bottom
line is he had an initial oppression. He thought it
was just going to be war stories. And when he
read it, he's like, we got to get lunch and
talk about this. And he opened up to me and
he said he talked about how he had gone through
you know, he had struggled and he had you know,
and and and so my story in some way at
least made him feel like he was willing to open

(01:46:56):
up to me. And and we we forged a new friendship.
There's a great quote, and you're touching upon this, I
think by Ernest henming Way, and I referenced this quote
in my book near the end. It's that the world
breaks everyone, and afterward many are strong.

Speaker 4 (01:47:12):
It's broke places.

Speaker 22 (01:47:14):
You know, this line is often used to celebrate resilience,
but it doesn't the full quote. He doesn't stop there,
he continues, he says, but those that will not break
it kills. And what I took take from that, and
it's from a Farewell to Arms, one of the characters
in the book. And what I take from that quote
is this idea that you've got to be able to

(01:47:36):
let yourself surrender. You know, it's not about quitting, but
breaking in a sense gives you some flexibility so that
you're not so rigid. And I think, you know, many
people who struggle are trying not to break so much
to the point where it's it's almost too late or
the big you know. And so that's one of the things.

Speaker 4 (01:47:58):
That my book.

Speaker 22 (01:48:00):
This other element of my book is sort of the
counseling sessions that are in it, in you know, destigmatizing
that whole process of getting help, because I think that's
an important part of the book, and if there's anything
that comes out of it, more willingness to do that,
I think men should be willing to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
Well.

Speaker 8 (01:48:20):
As we are looking at Father's Day upcoming, it also,
I think is a good time to point out the
fact that very few people have as many shared struggles
as fathers. There's a lot of common ground because raising
children and being a good dad, there are a lot
of commonalities. Every kid's different, every situation is different, but

(01:48:44):
their mildstones are the same. The challenges to authority are
the same, and finding a way to guide them sometimes
can be a unique struggle all in into itself, especially
when they're trying to break you.

Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
So that does.

Speaker 8 (01:49:04):
Great opportunity to kind of when you find yourself in
the presence of other fathers, to maybe start having some
of those conversations and you can find within that group
maybe folks that if you're not that close to you
might find out that you have a lot in common
and can do that. There seems like there's not as

(01:49:27):
many opportunities to truly celebrate, though it does seem like
this year that there are more people actively looking to
celebrate Father's Day instead of just an opportunity to sell some.

Speaker 9 (01:49:38):
Ties and some cards.

Speaker 8 (01:49:39):
So I'm hopeful that there is a movement back towards
recognizing the importance. But in your own words, what would
you say encapsulates the most important aspect of fatherhood.

Speaker 22 (01:49:55):
Presence? I think presence in their daily life. You know,
even if it's not direct physical presence, but the you know,
they know that anytime they need to talk to you,
this that there's that relationship, the connection that your your
your son or daughter can reach out to you. And
I think, you know, there's obviously the you know, sort

(01:50:16):
of setting the example strength, you know, faith.

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
And and so forth.

Speaker 22 (01:50:22):
But being present communication is and I think very important
because we can often you know, as providers, we often lose.
So I think that's one of the lessons I learned,
is focusing so much on the career that you know,
the presence part of it. I you know, I lost

(01:50:42):
sight of that and the importance of it. But it's
it's it's that's the one word kind of going on there.
But one word is to maintain presence.

Speaker 5 (01:50:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:50:52):
I think that's probably the simplest encapsulation at all. The
phrase I use to use quite frequently when I needed
to be reminded. I kind of did a mantra to
myself where I just said that I work for a living,
I do not live to work, and it is really

(01:51:15):
easy to lose sight of that, especially if you've got
projects coming on. And I think the other aspect of
that too, even if you haven't necessarily learned that until
you feel like it's too late, it's never too late
to start rebuilding those bridges being a father, if you
have been absent, trying to re establish and be present

(01:51:37):
in the now might take some effort, but it's not
too late, no.

Speaker 22 (01:51:43):
And I think that's a great point because there are
you know, there's fathers that you know, I talk about this.
My biological father wasn't present in my life until I
met him at twenty two years old. And there's there's
a certain aspect where to try to rebuild or build
relationships requires you know, I think some fathers who've lost
that connection you have to forget. I think they can

(01:52:06):
fall down a trap of guilt or shame or just difficulty,
and I think just having just putting ford it requires effort. Yeah,
so that's a great message.

Speaker 8 (01:52:21):
All well, you know what, Ryan, I hate too, But
we're quickly running out of time. I feel like there's
so much to go into. So what I hope we
can do is get back together and talk more about
the book down the road and talk about some other
positive messages, because it is fantastic work. Before we wrap
up and say final goodbyes, So please let everybody know

(01:52:44):
where they can find the book.

Speaker 9 (01:52:46):
And if you're inviting.

Speaker 8 (01:52:47):
People to follow you on social media, feel free to
share handles and platforms and any other website you want
to share. Just go ahead and throw all that out
there right now.

Speaker 4 (01:52:58):
Thanks Tim.

Speaker 22 (01:52:59):
So it's down, so you can find me on Facebook
down River Memoir of a Warrior Poet. There's a book page.
You can look that up on Amazon and Barnes and
Noble Bookshop other sort of online retailers, and that's probably
the best way Memoir of a Warrior Poet. If you
do that search, you're going to find me, Ryan McDermott.
I'm the author, and thank you so much Tim for

(01:53:20):
having me on.

Speaker 8 (01:53:22):
Oh it was a pleasure and it's an honor sir.
Thank you for your service, and thank you for going
that extra mile because, like I said, this memoir it's
got some important, important themes in there, and I appreciate
you coming on and helping to share a positive Father's
Day message because, like I said at the top, it

(01:53:46):
is something I think is missing from our modern culture
and it has been all the worse for it.

Speaker 9 (01:53:53):
Godspeed to you.

Speaker 22 (01:53:54):
Sir, Yeah, thank you and Happy Father's Day and happy.

Speaker 9 (01:53:59):
Father's you as well.

Speaker 8 (01:54:01):
All right, ladies and gentlemen. That was mister Ryan McDermott.
And it really is a fantastic.

Speaker 9 (01:54:09):
Memoir.

Speaker 8 (01:54:11):
It's difficult to imagine a memoir that you would really say,
oh wow, that's got all these deep meanings. He's just
telling the story. General Betrayus stated about this few war
memoirs achieved the level of literary depth and emotional resonance

(01:54:35):
of Downriver. Now, that is a powerful statement all in
of its own, But what's more powerful is the fact
that that is an absolutely true assessment because it is
about more than just recounting what happens there in Iraq.

(01:54:56):
It is about recounting the emotions, the feelings, and all
the things that we normally don't take into account, which
is part of what makes and again I don't need
to steal any thunder from Oriyan, but it's also what
makes Richard Battle's series Americans Who Made America so special?

(01:55:18):
By laying out people that you know, these are everyday
people who just decided to go do something and that
something ended up being exceptional. That is still the literary
truth of what we do every day. We may not
have control over whether or not we're remembered for it.

(01:55:38):
But when we step up and we do something, whether
it's the hard thing or just the right thing, whether
somebody's watching or not, those are the things that have meaning.
And right now we are living in a society that
is practically devoid of fatherhood. It is as if the
popular culture has wanted to erase it. And there are

(01:56:00):
reasons why we talk about it a lot on this show.
It's a common theme. We discuss it frequently. They want
to destroy the traditional family, and when I say they,
I mean the global political leftist, because that helps to
tear down a nation, It helps to tear down values

(01:56:20):
because without a father in the home to teach the
values and to be the example, it is difficult to
have young boys and girls grow up to be fine
men and women.

Speaker 9 (01:56:32):
Families are where people are made. It is the forge,
and without a father there as an active part of it.

Speaker 8 (01:56:40):
A present father is Dylan pointed out, Well, then something
is going to be incomplete, and it's no wonder we're
in the mess we're in now. So let us raise
up all of our fathers, those who have been present,
those who attempted.

Speaker 9 (01:56:57):
I'm right there with you, Doug.

Speaker 8 (01:56:58):
Doug's raising his glass because Dad, give it it is
one of the toughest jobs on the planet and it
is probably the most thankless. Now that's not taking anything
away from moms, but guess what. Mother's Day has been
a thing forever. Father's Day still looked at as a joke,
and I'm sorry you guys are not very frequently the
butt of the joke on every sitcom, every hour long drama,

(01:57:21):
and every commercial.

Speaker 9 (01:57:22):
All right, that's gonna have.

Speaker 6 (01:57:23):
To be it.

Speaker 8 (01:57:24):
Happy Flag Day, everybody, Happy Father's Day. And remember, don't
take my word for anything you've heard me say. Be
prepared to go find out for yourself, do your own research,
and remember to always use your brain if you really
want to tap the.

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
DV. That's all, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
Your beby gun was a world of fun when you
were just.

Speaker 3 (01:58:11):
A little squirt.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
You learn the rules of defensive tool so that no
one would get hurt.

Speaker 6 (01:58:23):
You learn to breathe, and you learn to squeeze till
your able is always true. You make the right of
passage man with your first wheel twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
Now the New World Order.

Speaker 6 (01:58:41):
Throw well, they're begging lear the mass.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
They don't feel safe and you are wrong. You're safe
country shows using both halves.

Speaker 6 (01:58:58):
Fathers knew the second then it was the final one
to cheat, to hold others tat so we never because sheep,
she's starling in the noloy in Paul Pot.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
And told us things that you never forgot.

Speaker 3 (01:59:19):
The teacher lessons to your daughters, sus to fear of.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
The government, the fear of the guns. Now the New.

Speaker 6 (01:59:30):
World daughter, true, Well, they're maybe there the mass.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
And don't feel safe.

Speaker 3 (01:59:36):
And you are wrong, you.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
Say, God control. He's using both pants like a third
free at wit to the time two to free.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
You more than a thousand nuts, protect my fatal da.

Speaker 6 (02:00:16):
Now the New World are not through, Well, they're begging
man hands.

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
They can pass one hundred balls, but we still won't
give it down. All of these things over deal if
they try to take this man.

Speaker 2 (02:00:34):
The advocats and Red Sam don't control is using both hands.
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