Ep. 78: #TheGigEconomy: #DrFumiHancock Interviews #DrYolandaShields about her book - Ep. 5

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Unleashing Your Gig Economy Potential: Thrive with Side Gigs & Embrace Your True Self"

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Episode Transcript

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they figure out how do they takethat gifting and use it for you,
or they decide that they're going toleave, so figure now. I tell
students all the time, are youngprofessionals when you go into those interviews,

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ask them what kind of culture thathe is at the workplace. Money is
not always the only thing. Youcan make a lot of money and go
into a culture that you hate theywant you to. They don't have the
flexibility if you have family, youngkids. They don't have affect the ability
for even working home once a week, or if you want to do a
hybrid work experience. You need tobe asking those questions in the interview because

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you may not fit into the cultureof that company. Just like you mentioned
entrepreneurship and entrepreneur I tell us studentsall time, you may not ever open
a company, but you better knowhow to be creative and innovative working for
a company, because that's entrepreneurship.They want you to come into solving problems.
And then for what was the otherin political and what you said a

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business culture, business and politics,So the business not business. I tell
whether at the university where I'm doingsome work right now, they have a
conservatory, and I went to thefaculty at that that in that school and
said, all these students that areleaving as dancers, musicians, singers,

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they're the brand. They are thebrand. They need to know business.
They need to take some business classes. Yes, yes, everything includes business.
They need the business side of anysectors. I have nursing students in
my entrepreneurship mindset class, because Idon't care what you're studying, you're gonna

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be working for a company. Ifyou're nursing, you're working for a clinic.
It's a business. So business,and it's included in whether it's a
side gig, side hustle, fulltime job. You're an artist, you're
entertainer, you're the brand, andyou need to know the business side of
it. And so it's encompassing allof that. And when you think about

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the political side, there are lawsbeing passed that impact the gig worker,
the contractor, the freelancer, andif you're not paying attention, and you're
gonna be in trouble. For anexample, when these paying apps first started,

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the cash app, the PayPal,zell, all of them, when
they first started, they weren't trackingwho was paying you. You had that
money going in your pocket. Nobodywas tracking. The irs didn't know.
Now if they're not, they're tracking. If you paying somebody more than six
hundred dollars, you're getting a taxform at the end of the year.

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A lot of these side gig workersand contractors and freelancers don't realize there's a
tax that you need to pay atthe end of the year. If you're
making money as a as a freelancer, as a contractor and you haven't set
it up as LLLC and as afull business, you are the business and
you're gonna get that form at theend of the year that you have to

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pay taxes on that money that people, your clients that you have on the
side. Oh my, you haveto be actually all the laws is being
passed and understand in your state,in your city, what's happening. Keep
watching what's happening, even with uberand lyft, when you see articles on
that, what laws, what courtcases are being heard about, how the

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people are being treated that are evenlift drivers or airbnb kind of how is
that kind of working. So there'salways a political side. So you need
to be engaged in your community,small business administration in your area on what's
really happening for entrepreneurs. Because ifyou're a side gig worker, you are
an entrepreneur. You may not thinkyou're an entrepreneur, but a lot of

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what's happening in reference to the lawsand the politics around small businesses, it's
gonna impact you. And so beingunderstanding that and getting engaged on that side
of it, talking to your representativesin your community and say how are you
s entpreneurs. I was just talkingto the work force development staff here in

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Virginia to say, you know howwhen people come and they sign up for
services and sign up and they wantto go and do this apprenticeship for this
plumbing job or hvac. They nevertalk to them about being an entrepreneur.
They just talking them about going andworking for someone. Having that at the
option for them, Yes, godo that apprentice, but you have the

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option of going working for a company, or you can start your own and
begin a training with them. Butas a case worker, they're not thinking
that. They're just thinking placing themwith the apprenticeship program and place them with
a company instead of having Also,especially those that are hard, it's hard
for them to find jobs because oftheir background, having entrepreneurship being an option

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for them, so being able toeducate people on that side of it as
well. So yeah, I wantthem to go quickly. Go back to
culture. You talked about culture ofwork. I want to talk of out
culture. You know where people comefrom, right yea, yea. And

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our cultures do also define where wefind ourselves as geeks. Yes, you
linked that for us absolutely, youknow. I used to I used to
say, I was always wondering whymy friends from the continent of Africa came
to the US and they had multiplejobs. That's right, they were gone

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multiple things six business cards until Iwent and I realized everybody's an entrepreneur there.
They're selling water on the street,braiding hair, where they're sowing dresses.

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They are gig workers, not workingfor individual company. So that when
you think about that's good from I'mglad you, I'm glad you distinguish because
I've seen that in several parts ofthe continent of Africa, in Trinidad and
different company countries. When they comecome to the US, it's natural for
them to have it's like unusual forthem not to have something on the side

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exactly like why don't you have anotherjob that you're doing? So it does
it is based on your culture.And that's why I want even going into
different countries sharing about the gig economy, to let them know that they're already
a part of this, this thisnew economy they've been doing. It's not
new to them. It's spen there. And how do we expand it,

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how do we put structure around itso that it is sustainable and building that
ecosystem, and saying how do wegive them support they need to be able
to take it and make it sustainablefor them to not just take care of
their family for a month. Howdo they take care of their family on
an ongoing basis and putting that ecosystemof support around them to be able to

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do that. But I would takeyou to somehow at some point, perhaps
we will come back and do ashow on that where I want us to
really focusing on culture because Americans beltingpart right. We have a lot of
Africans in diassport films in billions thatwe have in America here, including our

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Black American sisters and brothers too.Exactly. Some people feel like they have
to have permission to be gig workers. Some when they came here and they're
seeing that people are just sitting downon one job, they go back home
saying, am I in trouble orsomething? Way? Am I doing three,
four or five jobs? Why?What was? Is something wrong with

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me? Something have to be wrongwith me because I have these four or
five cards, and whereas somebody iswith this job for forty years and they're
okay with it, something has tobe So I want you to be able
to as a good wish you shouldyes real sting because every stage that you

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go to, there are the ashports, there there are people from silent cultures
being Asia wherever. Yes, therewith people where we've been going to Saudi
Arabia going to buy all those places, and they have here too, and
many of them have different jobs,yes, all kind of jobs, and

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so they are having problems really settlingin and sitting in here because when they
look at others with just one job, just going nine to five, nine
to five, and with them,the address are from this time to this
time, you know, from thiscenter. This time they're doing oh by
they you know, they're doing doordash and they're doing all kind of stuff.

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But they're still okay because they couldstill send money home. They are
not to stay at home. Butat the same time too, they don't
fit in. They don't I feellike they fit in. So it would
be great for you to actually reallytake an interview and just focus in because
those people, I could guarantee youwe've been watching and listening to this and

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saying, Okay, where do Ifeed it? Right? Right? My
culture? We understand the culture ofwork, now, we understand the gear
community. So I was feeling,now, how does my culture as a
person from Africa, as a personfrom Asia, as a person, how
does I feed it? And howdoes it give me permission to be in

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this community and be able to doit without fear, And they're actually,
you see more when I go togear communities. That's what I see,
a melting pot of people from allaround the world. That's right, that's

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right. The US is really oneof the main places where they came up
with the eight to five money throughFriday, and then when you go to
when you see other cultures, they'relike, we still got some more hours
and we can be making money.And that's where you're seeing more of those
younger generations stand. We need tohave multiplied streams of income, not just

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one. We got a lot wewant to get done. In order to
do that, we need this multiplestreams of income. And multiple streams of
income come from having a side gig, being a part of the gig economy
and feeling okay because you just needto go find your people, like where
my people, where my gig peopleand in your community where you are And
we can talk more about this whenwe come back. How to gather those

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people that are like minded, thathave that that mindset of I want to
be having the multiple streams of incomethrough the side gig, and how do
I build that community in the ecosystemwhere I live. Yes, I could
really see this book. Actually Ihave a big impact in Africa. Yes,
you and I both know. Youknow, they're part of Africa.

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Somebody has two or three, fouror five jobs exactly doing it, and
this gives them permission exactly. Butit's okay, I'm not a normal if
I'm doing that because I see somebodyfrom the US it just has one job.
That's right. This actually gives thempermission so that as you as you

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journey onto that African place that you'regoing. Yeah, that's something that I
really believe that this would definitely givethem permission because it will bring clarity.
Yes, because right now they justdo it to survive, right exactly,
Okay, I gotta feed the chickentoday, I gotta do this tomorrow.
They're just doing it out of wehave to survive to thrive. They would

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not understand that, okay, exactly, not just about surviving, it's about
thriving and ex joying and actually understandingthat they're just part of a culture that
exactly against that is evolving. Theydon't have to feel guilty about it,
they don't have to be ashamed aboutit because I've actually I think that was

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the time I went to a partyonce and I think it was it was
a lot of ambassadors in that party, and there were Americans in that party
too and Europeans. So every time, you know, you walk around and
say what do you do? Right? What do you do? What do
you do? And there was onelady that I met there. This lady

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was came in prepared, she hadabout she was about maybe five or six
business counts and she's from Ghana.She was like that, so she was
she was so excited about meeting everybodythat she would keep depending on who she
met, boom she was. AndI was watching her from her fast just
doing her thing. But I thinkthat's one point. Somebody said to her,

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wait a minute, I've watched youand it seemed like you have how
many times you have? I waswatching and she said she had about five
or six and that person made herfeel very bad. You know what that
there's the power of focus. Ohwow. And they chose the party to
tell this poor woman the power ofwow focus and that they need to talk

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to her later about it, thatyou know, she can come to one
of their seminars about the power offocus that when you focus on one thing,
that that that And I'm sitting theresaying, now, this is somebody
that's ignorant of culture. Yeah,exactly, there's somebody that's completely ignorant of
culture that you don't even take thetime to watch the culture of the African

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people that are there to know thatthis is that, this is what they
do. Exactly, that's what youneed to understand. So I want you
to think about that. We comeback against some other time. Yeah,
we're gonna, we're gonna, we'regonna publish a case study. Okay,
just try you get on your keepthat. Yes, that's right culture,

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because that thing is very important tome because for somebody who comes from Nigeria
and do a lot of work athome. I remember that was the time
we went home and the teachers,if you will remember this, one teacher
was busy argue with everybody until wefinally ever to understand and he says,
oh my god, I wish somebodyhad taught me this right way way way

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down the line. That if theyhad taught me this, I probably would
have made it more than not exact. People need that knowledge, they need
to know that it is okay.I think your book tells them it is
okay. Wherever it is okay,you don't have to feel guilty about it.
You also have to look at yourculture. Exact culture is that platform

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where you build These are so whateverspectrum of deep community with a plot off
right, it's okay, it's okay, exactly okay. If some of them
are ahead of the game, lettingthem know you you've been ahead of the
game. These are just catching upwith you. That's with the side gigs.
You've been doing it. You've seenit in your coat. She was

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born into it. Yes, absolutelyeveryone. If you have not got any
chance to get a copy of this, look, I'm gonna pick twenty four.
You all ill, I have along ways to go. By the
time I get to get in themiddle, I think we're probably gonna have
another show yet to come back.I want to dissect this thing. And

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the reason why I'm dissecting it isfor my African people, y'all. You
know me, I'm partial. Sorryfor African people. I love you all
those who are in London, Ilove you too. But okay, so
yes, I think I think that'sbecause that's some I mean, they're just
nuggets, nuggets of wisdom in everyevery page, every page oozes of you

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can map out your side journey orsome pages and map it out for you.
Yes, it also has your legaldocuments and plays. I'm gonna be
doing workshops and seminars and webinars onit where I can help you. You're
gonna let us know though, howcan we get to you? How can
people reach you? How can peopleBecause I want people to reach you,
invite you to speak on it.I want them to invite you to teach

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on it. I want them evenif it's a question of groups coming together.
If you are a group coming together, get your group together, right,
and it's vite doctor, you're onthe sheets to come and explore this
book with you. Because I thinkthis would be a very good book club
series. You know what, maybeshould have a book club series on this

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thing, you know, so thatwell we might, we might, you
know, let's talk about this becausewe might have a book club series on
this because that's a lot of nuggets. And especially with everybody coming out of
Covie don't know what to do now. Everybody just fuggy brains. Everybody helps
possibly they're anxious about the future,you know, don't really know. Okay,

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the job I did before I thoughtI liked it, Now I don't
like it anymore exactly. So Ithink this would help people to first calm
down, exactly. Yes, firstcalm down. It helps them to say,
Okay, all right, you're wearingdrawing before COVID, now you're drawing.
Calm down, all right, perhapsthis is where your passion is going.

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Calm down, You're gonna get there, So please out. Can they
find you? Yes? So theycan follow me on Instagram or Facebook at
Yolanda Speaks Bears, and they canalso reach me at yes bills dot com,
but definitely on all of my socialmedia platforms, Yolanda Speaks Bears reach

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out to me, invite me tocome and speak. We're gonna come back
and do some things. But Ihave really enjoyed this conversation and I'm really
passionate about this because of what yousaid for me. There are many out
there that have a gift or atalent and they're trying to figure out how
can I do this full time?And we want to work. I want

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to work with you and map thatout and help you do that. And
also as for me, just doctorfor me. Just said, those that
have been doing multiple strengths of incomeand of multiple side gigs, this you
are okay. The permission, hey, this is you have a permission to
do it. You have permission keepdoing it. Just make sure to get

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the structure around this right so thatis sustainable for you. That's right.
Now, give them one or twothings, one or two. I wanted
to give them one or two wisdomnuggets that we can go away with him.
Yes, So the first wisdom Iwill give you is take the time

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to learn your skill, get proficient, become an expert in what you say
that you're good at or you're you'rewanting to do, because it's gonna make
it easier for you to share thatgift with others. So you as as
as you're passionate and skilled in it, it just gives others the opportunity to

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say, Okay, they have learnedthat and they can do it. So
just put in the work, getthe consultant, get the coach, get
the training to take your stuff tothe next level so that you are known
as an expert in your in yourfield. The second thing I would say
is it's okay to be you.It's okay to be you. You know

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a lot of times we look atsocial media and we see people doing stuff
and we want tour over there anddo what they're doing. But people make
it till you make it. Yeah, yeah, quit faking it till you
make it. Just do it.Just do it exactly and be yourself because
people are looking for you. They'renot looking at the looking for the person.
If you're you're looking at they're lookingfor you. So just be yourself

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and continue to do the things thatyou know you're called to do and you're
good at and you will see thefruit come out of that. So yeah,
well, doctor Orlanda. Shields,thank you so much for Yeah,
welcome, this is life. Thisis truly life conversations because how many of
you know economy is part of lifeconversation. You're not okay, so your

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plants live life without that economy.You just can't do that. So this
is really great. Please get youI've not got in your copy yet.
Please please please go on Amazon everywherebooks are sold. You can just google
and you will find it there.But make sure you're right. They get
on me. But make sure youalso put doctor Lane that she will stare

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all right, So until next time, the inspired, the motivated, be
of sentimental value. Understand that youare the hero in your life story.
Don't allow anybody. That's why we'vebeen talking about it right now. Don't
allow anybody to write your story.So for you all gigs out there,
we give you permission. Okay,you got the permission to be giggy as

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giggy as you want to be,all right, But with structure, like
she said, When structure, withhiring a consultant like she is, all
right, Just don't go up there. We literally doing things and say doctor
Jolanda says, says the gig,I can do it. Oh doctor,
let me say you can do it. Yes, you did that well with

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structure. And also understand that youhave to invest in yourself. Hiring a
consultant is investing in yourself. Hiringsomebody to come and trains in invest in
for yourself. Hiring her to comeand speak. All right, it's invest
in yourself. So take you nowand we will see you next time.

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