September 12, 2025 • 39 mins
- Yours truly joined many other journalists, content creators and analysts, in attending Apple’s “Awe Dropping” media event in Cupertino, California. I share my thoughts on this new hardware, after playing around with them all following Tim Cook’s keynote
- Also at Apple HQ, I get feedback from tech analyst Avi Greengart (from Techsponential) and pro photographer/videographer Jefferson Graham. Between the two, we cover iPhone Air, iPhone 17, AirPods Pro 3, and new Apple Watch options
- If you’re looking to beef up your Wi-Fi at home, I’m also joined this hour by NETGEAR’s Sandeep Harpalani, VP of Product Management, on what to look for
- Thank you to Visa and Sandisk for your support!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Hope you're all doing great today. Tough last couple of
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weeks in the news, both domestically and internationally. Hope everyone's
doing all right. I just got back from Apple Park
in Cooper Tino, California, where I got hands on with
the new iPhones and other tech, which I'll tell you
more about shortly, and I will have some special guests
on this hour to chat about their impressions of the
new Apple gear. After all, iPhone is the number one
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smartphone in this country, Apple Watch is the number one
smart watch, and AirPods are the most popular earbuds in
the world actually, and so these new releases are newsworthy
for that alone. So on today's show, after I chat
about Apple news in a moment my take on the
events of this past week, photographer Jefferson Graham will share
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his thoughts with me about the new iPhone camera features.
Then tech analyst Avi Greengart will talk more broadly about
the new Apple family of devices. I also interviewed him
outside of Steve Jobs Theater on Tuesday, as I did
Jefferson Graham, and then later on in this show on
tech it Out, if you're looking to upgrade your Wi
Fi at home, I'll have Netgear on to chat about
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Wi Fi seven Mesh systems and other home networking solutions
and smart home tech that you may want to hear about.
All of this and more on an all new tech
it Out powered by Visa, which I'll tell you more
about a little bit later, but let me first share
my thoughts about the new Apple products all right. On Tuesday,
after Apple CEO Tim Cook's keynote speech, yours truly along
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with many other journalists and content creators and analysts, got
our hands on the latest Apple products that are coming
out later in September. The iPhone Air was probably the
biggest news if you haven't seen it on TV. It's
the thinnest iPhone ever at just five point six millimeters thin.
Yet it is durable as it's made with titanium and
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a proprietary technology called Ceramic Shield from Apple on both
the back and on the front. On the front, it's
the new Ceramic Shield two, which is said to be
three times more scratch resistant than regular ceramic shield. But
the idea is that it is durable despite its form factor.
It's a six and a half inch display with very
smooth motion. It's got one twenty hurtz refresh rate, so
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whether you're scrolling an article or you're playing a game,
everything is silky smooth. It's got an A nineteen pro
chip under the hood and up to twenty seven hours
of video playback. That's pretty remarkable given how thin this
phone is that they were still able to squeeze a
great battery in there, and there's some software magic at
work as well. Now let's talk iPhone seventeen. There were
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three new iPhones, the iPhone seventeen, the iPhone seventeen Pro,
which has a better camera and b fear processor, and
the iPhone seventeen Pro Max, which is the largest device.
These also have ceramic shield two for better durability, that
promotion screen, one hundred and twenty hrtz refresh rate for
a lot smoother scrolling in gameplay. The iPhone it's the
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same price as last year, surprisingly with the tariffs and everything,
and twice the storage, so it starts at two hundred
and fifty six gigs of storage, which is twice that
of last year's one hundred and twenty eight gig iPhone.
To start, the cameras were the biggest story I think
out of the iPhone seventeen, especially on the Pro and
Pro Max, some pretty amazing telephoto and ultra wide angle photography.
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I'm going to let my guests both Jefferson Graham and
Ave Greengart talk a bit more about the cameras, but
I thought that was the biggest story out of the
new iPhones, but really impressive across the board. If you're
into audio AirPods. Pro three was amazing to test drive.
After the keynote, better noise cancelation. The AirPods Pro three
can also measure heart rate when you're working out, and
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a cool feature coming called live translation, so if you're
speaking to somebody in another language in near real time,
it will tell you in your ear what they're saying.
So you can imagine two people wearing these AirPods Pro
three they can actually converse even though they have different
languages as their mother tongue.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I think that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
And then finally, Apple Watch Series eleven is their next
flagship smartphone. Love the better screen, It's thinner, brighter, f
four hours of battery now, which is great because they
do encourage you to wear it at night. And yes,
there is something called a sleep score which can help
analyze your sleep. It's more durable than previous versions, and
for the first time, hypertension monitoring for high blood pressure,
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which is pretty cool. To compliment the bevy of other
health features that Apple Watch has. On the larger Apple
Watch Ultra three, which is more for outdoor enthusiasts and
you know, adventurous types, there's now satellite connectivity, so you
can actually send messages to people when you're off the grid,
when there's no cell phone towers, nearby or in an
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emergency situation, you can message nine when one very cool stuff.
So as you can tell, no shortage of impressive Apple
products unveiled in Cooper Tino by Apple. Speaking of which,
let me press play on that interview recorded with seasoned
photographer and videographer Jefferson Graham to get his impressions on
the new iPhones.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
All right, I'm here with the one and only Jefferson Graham.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
If you did not read his thousands of articles in
USA Today over the years the decades, you probably now
watch them on Scripts News.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
He has a weekly.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Show there streaming online as well as his YouTube channel
for photo walks.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Great to see you, Jefferson, as always.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Same here Mark.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
All right, So we're here live right now at the
iPhone seventeen launch and right outside of Steve Jobs Theater
at Apple Park. You are, of course a photography guy
who better to talk to you about the new iPhone
seventeen family and the new iPhone Air When it comes
to photo and video quality top level?
Speaker 5 (06:31):
What's your first impressions?
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Okay, very simple? Improved self least way, improve selfiest, which
I think is going to be the number one thing
for people, A better telephoto with which we'll get you
way closer to the action, which I've been asking for
for years. And I'm very impressed. As far as the
iPhone Air and no, no, there's only one camera on
that thing, and it's digital zoom. So and also it's
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thinner and it's lighter, and really, who cares? My iPhone
now is thinner and lighter. It's really didn't do anything more?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Maybe all right, so you're not sold on the new
form factor a five point six inch iPhone Air that,
according to Apple, doesn't sacrifice durability.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
We'll see when it's out in the wild.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But again, from a photography standpoint, you probably focus mostly
on iPhone seventeen Pro and iPhone seventeen Pro Max, which
is larger. You touched on selfies. Apple said during their
conference today that five hundred billions selfies were taken around
the world last year on iPhone, which is more than
any other smartphone. Probably not surprising, So what is new
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with the selfies? Talk to us about the new orientation options.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
One of the biggest problems with taking selfies is that
you can't fit people in the frame, and most people
shoot them vertically when they should actually shoot them horizontally,
and now Apple is going to shift it horizontally even
if you shoot it vertically, and they're going to fit
more people in the frame. It just does it all automatically,
and I've just complained with it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So not only can you widen the camera or even
leverage if you like.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
To center you better.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
That's the center stage technology, I guess.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
But it's also higher resolution, right, eighteen megapixels now.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Eighteen instead of twelve. And you know we have the
selfie camera that a lot of times you just don't
want to use because it's this lower resolution. So I'm
all for the higher resolution. And I'm really excited about
the eight X telephoto zoom, which is a big step
up from five x.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Is that on the regular IDs?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
On seventeen?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
That's on the pro models?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Okay, so on the pro models if you are you
take your photography seriously as you do, you can now
get closer to the action, and that's important. I know
other phonemakers have done that for a while, but you
will impress overall with the rear cameras now on the
iPhone forty eight megapixel I think for all three right.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Yes, that's great. Because for my money, the one X
lens is the sharpest, most consistent lens, and the other
ones are not as good in low light and they
really fall apart.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
And the other two are telephoto and wide angles.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
All right, for why ultra try?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So now between the three and what's this fusion or
technology they were talking about.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
That's digital zoom where they crop a section of the
image and they use AI to alter it and make
it into something that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's not just like the new Wizard of Oz of
the sphere that people are happy about.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
The Samsung and the Google Pixel both they tap out
at five X, so ax is a big, big selling
point for app.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Okay, that's optical zoom, not digital zoom.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
They told me here it's optical zoom.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Yeah, all right, awesome, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And then now let's talk about dual recording.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So I know there have been some third party apps
that can do this in other phonemakers, but the idea
is that you can now shoot a video of somebody
using the rear camera but also record yourself at the
same time, picture and picture.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Do you like that?
Speaker 6 (09:41):
There's been absolutely let you do this for years.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It's a gimmick.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
I'll use it once and I'll never do it again.
Now there are YouTube videos where people react to things,
so maybe this is going to be easier for them
to do that.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I'm not the person who wants to do it, but
I'd rather have it than not.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So I I was thinking the same thing for content creators.
If you're recording something and you want to be on
camera at the same time, I like that idea. You
can also move around where the window is, so if
it's obstructing your view.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
You could just take your finger and move it. So
I can see content creators doing this or.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Maybe you know soccer moms right, they want to, you know,
record their kids playing soccer, but they also want to
share with their friends their own reaction.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Okay, So it reminds me of the timestamp that was
we used to put on camporders. Do you remember that
you have a big green blinking light and then when
you watch it, you say, oh, geez, I ruined my video.
Why is it there? And so so Johnny is going
to make this goal and then mom's on there talking
about it. I don't want to see that.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I want to say, Johnny, fair enough, all right, before
I let you go.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Any other thoughts across iPhone seventeen when it comes to
photography or a video anything we missed Next.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I know, I think we got it one hundred dollars
more for the Pro model for the Pro Max model,
which I did expect. I was actually surprised the other
ones did not go up in price considering the tariffs.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Okay, overall, you are impressed with the iPhone seventeen Pro
and Promas, not so much on the iPhone Air exactly.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
This is actually a better event than we've had since
the fifteen Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Always great to see you. Thank you so much for
carving out some time to chat.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Not a problem.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Okay, a few more minutes about the iPhone and other
Apple devices with tech analyst Avi Greengart.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
When we return on tech it Out, stay with us.
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I was at Apple Park in Kupertino, California, hands on
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with the new iPhone, Air, iPhone seventeen's, Apple Watch and
AirPods Pro three. But for his take on these new devices,
who better to turn to than Avi green Guard, a
well known and respected tech analysts who I caught up
with after the keynote. So let's go ahead and play that.
Of course, I'm going to run into av green Guard
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from Tech Financial at.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Apple Park right outside of Steve Jobs Theater.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
He's for so leading analysts in the tech space. Nice
to see you, Avi. Ho do you like the show today?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Well?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
These are always fun.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
When Apple introduces more than one new product with some
actually significant features, it makes the event a lot better,
especially since we're mostly coming all the way out here
just to watch a video that you can watch at home.
And what the key is that we do get hands
on afterwards. I got ears on with the new AirPods Pro,
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I got risked on with the new Apple Watches, and
got hands on with the new iPhones, all of them.
So it is impressive how you can take some iterative
changes but built on top of the platform that is
so ubiquitous and so powerful that some of these products
will change people's or save people's lives. Some we'll just
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make things more fun, like being able to take a
selfie while holding your phone vertically, but having the selfie
take horizontally. That's going to keep a lot of people
from dropping their phones. Ain't going to be much better sealthies.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
So there's a lot to unpack here.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Why don't we start with the iPhone seventeen as well
as iPhone Air, the slimmest iPhone ever unveiled, five point
six millimeters thin.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
What did you find the most impressive?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You already touched on the front facing camera, So taking
selfies is going to get better now because you don't
have to change the orientation manually. You can just tap
a button or have the AI do it. In fact,
it put you front and center because of that AI
where you impress overall with the iPhone family, So the.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
iPhone seventeen, just the base model, seems so like a
bit of a bargain at the moment because the price
didn't go up, it got faster, the camera's got better,
and it has better battery life, so better all the
way around, and same price. So that's is going to
make somebody immediately upgrade. Not necessarily, but if you need
a new phone, this is a pretty.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Good ride, right.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Speaking of the cameras, they also showed how you can
record a video and yourself at the same time.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
So I can envision the content.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Creators liking that you're recording something maybe a clip of
a concert, and the camera is also recording you picture
and picture do.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
You think that's a useful feature? I know there have
been apps that a lot you'd let you do that,
or other phone makers. It can be useful.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So now let's talk iPhone seventeen Pro and promax a
beef your processor, the A nineteen Pro better cameras. Now
on the Pro models you rear cameras are three separate cameras,
with each forty eight megapixels of detail.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Did you think that was impressive?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
So?
Speaker 7 (15:38):
I think the most impressive part is that by introducing
the iPhone error, it gives Apple's designers permissions to go
all out for just battery life, durability, and performance on
the iPhone seventeen Pro family, and the iPhone seventeen Pro
is actually for pro. Even I, as a pseudo semi
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not really content creator from most of my analysis is
delivered in conversational or text form. But even I, I'm
never gonna use half of what this thing can do.
But it's bigger beef here, and it's got longer battery life,
and that's pretty great. The one thing that isn't pushing
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people to upgrade to it is that even the iPhone seventeen,
the base model, now has variable refresh rate displays, which
is something that a lot of tech reviewers have been
complaining about for years. I'm not sure that most consumers
have actually noticed, but it was a reason too, if
you did care, it was a reason to move up
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to the pros.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So you're referring to the one hundred and twenty hertz
refresh rate on the iPhone screen now, which makes scrolling
a lot smoother, and gameplay previously was half that.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
It was this typical sixty frames per second. So do
you think this is noticeable?
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Yeah, I mean I've played around with it. The issue
isn't whether it's noticeable for me. It's the issue is
whether it's noticeable for literally hundreds of millions of people
who've bought iPhones without it and haven't been complaining. Where
it really will impact people is not that, oh, now
this scrolling is smoother, and it will be and maybe
hopefully people will notice it because it's much much better.
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Where it's going to impact people is that it's variable. So,
in other words, the screen doesn't need to refresh if
you're not actually doing something that needs a constant refresh,
and that leads to better battery life.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Right, Yeah, So as low as one hurts, they said,
up to one hundred and twenty depending on what you're
doing or not doing with your phone. And again at
the end of the day, all these bells and whistles
don't mean anything if your phone is dying by lunch.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Once again, pardon the ambient noise.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We were at the Steve Jobs Theater where I caught
up with Avi Greengart. We're going to take a short
break and continue our chat about the new Apple family
of products iPhone Air, iPhone seventeen, including the Pro and
Pro Max, Apple AirPods three, and Apple Watch Series eleven,
Ultra three and s E three. So Latsta unpac still
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stick with us more check it out Coming right off
after this, I want.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
To follow Mark Google Mark with a C and Saltzman
with a Z breaking down geeks Peak into streetspeak. This
is check it Out Check it out with technology columnist, author,
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and TV personality Mark Saltzman.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Welcome back to check it out everyone.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
If you are just tuning in now, I've been chatting
with Avi Greengart, a well known tech analyst with a
company called Texponential. I caught up with Avey at Apple's
headquarters in Northern California, just.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Outside of Steve Jobs Theater.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
When Tim Cook left the stage, we learned all about
the new iPhones and Apple Watch and air pods, and
then we got some hands on time with all the products.
So let's continue that chat with Ave just outside of
Steve Jobs Theater.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Let's now pivot and talk Apple Watch.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
So Apple Watch Series eleven, Apple Watch Ultra three, and.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Even a new se a lesser price model debuted. What
did do you think?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
We're the call out features on these twa models.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
So the biggest call out feature is that the iPhone,
the Apple Watch se gotta get some major upgrades. So
that's the low priced one, that's the entry level model,
and now it has more of the health features, and
I think that's going to be very significant. And the
significant on two levels. One is it's just a really
good product. The bigger one though, is in my research,
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I've seen that once people buy an Apple Watch, they're
really tied to the Apple ecosystem. They don't want to leave.
The Apple Watch is a great, great product. So even
at the two hundred and forty nine dollars level, you're
getting more than you did before. The series eleven apple
Watches now have hypertension notifications and that's just going to
save people's watch so it can.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Detect if you've got high blood pressure over a period
of time I think a minimum of thirty days and
alert you to it so you can then use that
information to share with your physician actionable insights if you will.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I think that's a game changer as well. They did
clarify that it.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Wasn't FDA approved yet, but yeah, so coming soon, they said, to.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
One hundred and twenty countries.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's very exciting to complement what they already have like
a heart rate sensing and blood oxygen levels and all that.
It's great to have that under the hood of the
Apple Watch. And they also I think it's a slimmer display,
more durable, better brightness, So again ticking all the boxes
without sacrificing battery life. The Ultra three now has satellite connectivity.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Can you explain what that means.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
That means that when you're out of self coverage, which
is something that someone who buys a watch called Ultra
might actually want to do, you'll be able to have
find my still work, You'll be able to over satellite,
You'll be able to do some message over satellite, not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Every kind of messaging that you're camping and you get
lost in the woods, you can do that text.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
For help, correct emergency SOS over satellite is one of
the key features for this, and it makes it sort
of a survival watch. But I still think that the
main reason people buy the Apple Watch Ultra is because
it has a bigger screen and a bigger battery.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
And the screen got even bigger, even though.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
The case is the same size, right, because it's the
bezel's shrunk just a little bit. It's a little bit
brighter for better visibility in direct sunlight. And the battery
got a little bigger too. So all these things just
make your Ultra Watch more ultra. And yeah, if you
take it camping, I'm never going camping, but if you
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take it camping camping, maybe yes, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You've got a bunch of kids.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
They may want to go at a tear vanning with
you one day. All kidding aside, I be I just
want to take one more minute of your time and
ask you to talk about air Pods Pro three. They
kick off the conference with that, after a bit about design,
which I think was an important distinction that Tim Cook
called out compared to other phonemakers and tech companies out there.
But then they dove really fast into AirPods Pro three.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
What's unique there.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
These are the best selling air pods in the world,
now even better.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
I guess, significantly better. I actually got ears on with
them here. And the active noise cancelation is improved in
two ways. One, they're using foam ear tips and that
does so much of a better job of sealing your
ear can.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's passive noise canceling.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Correct, but that adds to the overall capabilities rather than
the rubber tips that it used to ship with, so
that alone, and it's more comfortable too, at least in
my case, so the fit is better. It's more comfortable then,
both from a passive and an active perspective. The active
noise cancelation is just much better on this. I'm a
little annoyed that they haven't handed me a review unit
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that I can take on my series of flights tomorrow home.
I have the last generation with me that will have
to do until I get the NU once. There's also
a heart rate.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Monitor on it so you can use it for.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Exercising, and there are two critical battery life improvements one
is it now lasts eight hours with active noise cancelation on,
which is really good for those of us who take
six hour flights regularly and had our airpod's approaches die
before the end of the flight, which has happened to
me on multiple occasions. The other is that transparency mode
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now lasts for ten hours, and that's crucial for people
who use this as a hearing aid, and so you'll
be able to use that basically for a full workday.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And then finally, they also unveiled real time language translation
powered by Apple Intelligence, So if you're talking with somebody
who speaks another language, it will tell you in real
time in your ears, almost real time, what they're saying
in your native time.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Well, we'll see how well that works.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
That's one of these HEI features that I've seen from
other manufacturers. It works, sometimes it doesn't work, others sometimes
it works, but there's so much of a delay I
have to test that before I'm willing to call that
a game changer or anything like that. But again, price
stayed the same two hundred and forty nine dollars. They
sound better, the noise cancelation is better, they fit better,
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Wi Fi is critical at home today because it's the
backbone to your experiences like entertainment. Right we're streaming TV
shows and music and downloading games to your console or PC.
It's also used for productivity, especially for those who work
at home even partially or students doing homework. And Wi
Fi is also needed for accessing smart home gear like
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video door bells, security cameras, smart lights, and so much more.
Don't believe me, just ask your Alexa, Google or Sirie
smart speaker, which also needs Wi Fi to work. To
talk with us about what's new and Wi Fi, we're
joined by Netgear on the line. We've got sand Deep Harpolani.
He's VP of Product Management at Netgear. Welcome back to
the show, Sandeep. Good to chat with you again.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Thank you. I'm glad to be back here Mark and
talk to you one more time about Wi Fi my
favorite subject.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Sure, let's start there. Actually, let's talk about the importance
of good Wi Fi at home.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, so, I think, as you mentioned, wi Fi is
actually a basic necessity for us today. It really drives
everything that we do from work, entertainment, our social connections.
A lot of the devices that you have inside most
likely the next appliance that you will buy will have
some kind of Internet connectivity. I haven't come across anybody
(27:54):
who has said that he will have less number of
connected devices next year as they want they have today.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So we're on the same page about the importance of
Wi Fi ensure you know there are still wired devices.
There are still a couple of I don't know, smart
TVs and laptops that have an Ethernet connection. But we
love the convenience of not being tethered to the wall.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
We can even take our.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Laptop or tablet outside, especially this time of year, you
want to download an ebook to your reader on a
porch or a backyard deck. Wi Fi allows you to
do that as well. So tell us a bit about netgear.
This company has been around for a while, what is
it almost thirty years now.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
That is correct. We are actually founded in nineteen ninety
six and have what the first company that was focused
on consumer networking and we continue to be very focused
on that market and true to our mission of providing
innovative solutions for connectivity to power extraordinary experiences. And we
(28:51):
have a full suite of networking products from your Wi
Fi routers, mesh solutions. We'll talk more about it, range, extenders, adapters,
power line, anything that you would need in your home
to connect devices most likely will have an option for that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And so what separates net Gear would you say from
other networking companies?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Out there.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I know there are a few.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I think one of the key things that separates us
from others is really our experience in terms of building
Wi Fi, building Wi Fi products that are reliable, secure,
and high performance and provide your whole home coverage. There's
a lot that goes into building a Wi Fi product
that provides you the best performance in range. We basically
spend a lot of time in terms of designing these products.
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Wi Fi is extremely sensitive to any kind of interference,
so there's a lot that goes into making sure that
you're getting the best range and performance, and we are
really building a product without understanding the customer home environment.
He might be living in a RAND style home, or
it might have a multi storied there might be different
type of materials that are used in terms of bricks
(30:00):
and so on, which have different level of Wi Fi
ability to go through that. So there's a lot that
goes into developing these products to make sure that it
works reliabily and gives you the best performance for your home.
Netgear has been a pioneer in terms of providing new solutions.
We were the first to build the first tryband, the
quadband WiFi outers. We were the first to do the
(30:23):
first range extenders. So we're done really looked at the market,
understand the market, and provide the best performance solutions to
this to make sure that our customers are able to
enjoy and power those extraordinary experiences that they're looking for.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And it's not just hardware, right sand Deep.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
There's also the software part which is critical, including cybersecurity
software which I understand that Netgear provides.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Can you tell us a bit about armor.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yes, So this is again as we look as I
spoke about understanding of the customers. As you have more
and more connected devices, customers are concerned about security. Now
you have your front lock, which might be having a
Bluetooth connection or wiapi Fi connection, so you want to
make sure that your home is secure. In earlier times,
you could basically have an anti virus running on your
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laptop or PC and you're basically covered. But now you
have these IoT devices which do not have You cannot
run any kind of a software on those, any kind
of a security software on those, So you need something
that is running on the Wi Fi uder think of
it like a lock on your front door. That's how
it's almost basic security requirements. So as we have seen
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these requirements change. We have basically developed this armored solution
which is to protect all the devices in your home network,
where we have partnered with the Biddefender, leading security company
to have a solution so that everything that's behind your
home network is secured. You don't need to run specifically
software on every device that is.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
In your home. IoT, of course, is an acronym for
Internet of Things. These are the millions of devices out
there that all can talk to one another, and that
includes those smart home devices in your home that I
allude to off the top, like security cameras and video
door bells, even things you wear like a smart watch,
a smart ring. We're all connected and that they need
to be secure at every access point to the Internet.
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What don't we now chat about the latest wireless standard
called Wi Fi seven.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Is it time to upgrade to this?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Yes, so there are some significant improvements. Number one is
of course the speed improvements. It's got a four x
speed improvement as compit the last Wi Fi six standard.
But more important than that, improvements in terms of the
robustness of Wi Fi reduction in terms of latency, so
things like if you're playing a gaming application or if
(32:47):
you want a more secure connection. People are using it
for work, have zoom calls, and so on, video streaming.
All these applications will benefit with Wi Fi seven all.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Right, So it's for faster beads and lower latency, which
is related supporting more devices at the same time, and
other benefits security as you mentioned, more with Netgear when
we return on tech it Out, Stay with us.
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Speaker 2 (33:27):
We are chatting with Sandy Parpolani. He is a vice
president of product management at net Gear, a leading networking company.
So how would you know when it's time to upgrade, Like,
let's say we've got listeners right now, thinking well, I'm
perfectly content with my existing router.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Maybe it's Wi Fi six or six E, one of
these slightly older standards. How do you know?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Is it because things just don't work as smoothly. You're watching,
you know, a show on Netflix and it's buffering. You're
seeing that little symbol in the middle of the TV
that says wait kind of Maybe you don't realize that
from a security standpoint, that your data is at risk
when it is.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, There are actually a lot of factors here. One
of course is, as you mentioned, the buffering part of it.
If your outer is three to four years old, most
likely you or at least maybe two generations behind. In
terms of Wi Fi, a lot of things have improved
in terms of speed, in terms of connectivity, in terms
of security, and it makes sense for as if you're
(34:21):
using this Wi Fi, as you're most likely you are.
People don't think about it, like how many more connected
devices have you added in the last three to.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Four years, probably a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
How much has your Internet speeds increased in the last
couple of years. How many more subscriptions do you have
for your video streaming or gaming? How much more usage
you have because you're now we're doing work from home,
you're doing a zoom calls, you're doing your work calls,
and so on. All of those things take need to
be taken into consideration, and I think one of the
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best ways that I recommend is for people to run
their speed test near the router and then maybe run
the same speed test in other areas of the home.
Maybe you're now working one to work in the backyard,
as you mentioned, or you have a new electric car
that needs to be upgraded in it and that that
requires a connection or your IP cameras that are all
around the home. Now your usage has changed and it
(35:13):
will be making sense. Maybe run that same speed test
at those areas and see are you getting similar speeds
or not. So if you're paying for a gigabit of
internet and add that farthest corner, if you're only getting
one hundred megabits or even ten megabits and so on,
effectively you're not using maybe ninety nine percent of the
bandwidth that you're paying for.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Right, great point, And if people want to activate a
speed test, it's very easy. Just go in your web
browser and do a search for speed tests and you'll
find different ones available like Ukla is a popular one,
dob Kla. It'll show you the download speeds and compare
that to what you're paying for and what you're supposed
to be getting.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
It's a great point, Sandy.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Before we talk netgear solutions, some actual product names that
we may want to take note of. Tell us a
bit about mesh. I know it's not new, but for
those in a larger home or maybe an older home
with say concrete walls, a MESH system may be ideal
multi room solution.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
That is correct. So the one of the fundamental issues
that mesh solves is of coverage. This is again laws
of physics. As you move away from a WiFi outer,
your speed goes down. That's where the mesh system comes
and it's multiple units, so it could be two units,
it could be three units. You take the main Wi
Fi outer, are connected to wherever you're getting your Internet connection,
(36:24):
and then you have satellites or no it s as
you call it in terms of that it can be
spread throughout the.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Home lit a little pucks that you plug in the wall.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yes, and then it doesn't require any wired connection or anything.
It's all connected through Wi Fi and you have the
same Wi Fi network name throughout. So as you move
around in your home, maybe as you're doing a call
a zoom call, you don't see any kind of a disconnections.
You're basically getting the similar level of performance that you're
getting on one end of the house to another hand
of the house. And that's where our products come in
(36:54):
or becomes in. Specifically, I think our differentiation here is
for these mesh systems is not only do we provide
that in these range we try to get you a
similar kind of Internet speeds that you're getting at radio
routers to radio satellite says.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Could you tell us just for a minute or so,
what some of the Netgear brand names we should look for,
our model numbers we should be looking for.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
So for our mesh products. And that's the range of
Mesh solutions.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Right, So that's O RBI.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
We have a whole range of Wi Fi seven ORB
Mesh products, the best in classes, the ORB nine seventy.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
All right, So Netgear is the company. Orb is the
brand that I think a lot of our listeners would
want to make note of.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
That's O RBI.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
There's Mesh systems, there's routers, there's something for different applications.
If you're a hardcore gamer, you're going to want a
higher end, a faster solution. But there certainly there's no
shortage of them. Is the best website simply Netgear dot
com to get going or would you recommend a particular retailer.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
No, Netgear dot com is a great place to stop.
Basically you can look at our mesh products. You can
look at it. A standalone routers which is the Nighthawk
goes under the brand name of nighd Hawk, and we
have a whole full range of customers who are looking
for a standalone router, so you have all those options
that range extenders, adapters, all kinds of connectivity solutions to
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make sure that you're getting the best Wi Fi throughout
your home.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I think we talked about night Hawk the last time
you were on the show. Sandy, thank you so much
for carving out some time to chat with us once again. Again,
Sandyparpolani's been our guest from Netgear Netgear dot com for more.
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Hey everyone, welcome to Check it Out Episode four eleven.
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my goal is to break down geek speak into street speak.
Hope you're all doing great today. Tough last couple of
(00:52):
weeks in the news, both domestically and internationally. Hope everyone's
doing all right. I just got back from Apple Park
in Cooper Tino, California, where I got hands on with
the new iPhones and other tech, which I'll tell you
more about shortly, and I will have some special guests
on this hour to chat about their impressions of the
new Apple gear. After all, iPhone is the number one
(01:15):
smartphone in this country, Apple Watch is the number one
smart watch, and AirPods are the most popular earbuds in
the world actually, and so these new releases are newsworthy
for that alone. So on today's show, after I chat
about Apple news in a moment my take on the
events of this past week, photographer Jefferson Graham will share
(01:36):
his thoughts with me about the new iPhone camera features.
Then tech analyst Avi Greengart will talk more broadly about
the new Apple family of devices. I also interviewed him
outside of Steve Jobs Theater on Tuesday, as I did
Jefferson Graham, and then later on in this show on
tech it Out, if you're looking to upgrade your Wi
Fi at home, I'll have Netgear on to chat about
(01:59):
Wi Fi seven Mesh systems and other home networking solutions
and smart home tech that you may want to hear about.
All of this and more on an all new tech
it Out powered by Visa, which I'll tell you more
about a little bit later, but let me first share
my thoughts about the new Apple products all right. On Tuesday,
after Apple CEO Tim Cook's keynote speech, yours truly along
(02:22):
with many other journalists and content creators and analysts, got
our hands on the latest Apple products that are coming
out later in September. The iPhone Air was probably the
biggest news if you haven't seen it on TV. It's
the thinnest iPhone ever at just five point six millimeters thin.
Yet it is durable as it's made with titanium and
(02:44):
a proprietary technology called Ceramic Shield from Apple on both
the back and on the front. On the front, it's
the new Ceramic Shield two, which is said to be
three times more scratch resistant than regular ceramic shield. But
the idea is that it is durable despite its form factor.
It's a six and a half inch display with very
smooth motion. It's got one twenty hurtz refresh rate, so
(03:07):
whether you're scrolling an article or you're playing a game,
everything is silky smooth. It's got an A nineteen pro
chip under the hood and up to twenty seven hours
of video playback. That's pretty remarkable given how thin this
phone is that they were still able to squeeze a
great battery in there, and there's some software magic at
work as well. Now let's talk iPhone seventeen. There were
(03:28):
three new iPhones, the iPhone seventeen, the iPhone seventeen Pro,
which has a better camera and b fear processor, and
the iPhone seventeen Pro Max, which is the largest device.
These also have ceramic shield two for better durability, that
promotion screen, one hundred and twenty hrtz refresh rate for
a lot smoother scrolling in gameplay. The iPhone it's the
(03:49):
same price as last year, surprisingly with the tariffs and everything,
and twice the storage, so it starts at two hundred
and fifty six gigs of storage, which is twice that
of last year's one hundred and twenty eight gig iPhone.
To start, the cameras were the biggest story I think
out of the iPhone seventeen, especially on the Pro and
Pro Max, some pretty amazing telephoto and ultra wide angle photography.
(04:12):
I'm going to let my guests both Jefferson Graham and
Ave Greengart talk a bit more about the cameras, but
I thought that was the biggest story out of the
new iPhones, but really impressive across the board. If you're
into audio AirPods. Pro three was amazing to test drive.
After the keynote, better noise cancelation. The AirPods Pro three
can also measure heart rate when you're working out, and
(04:34):
a cool feature coming called live translation, so if you're
speaking to somebody in another language in near real time,
it will tell you in your ear what they're saying.
So you can imagine two people wearing these AirPods Pro
three they can actually converse even though they have different
languages as their mother tongue.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I think that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
And then finally, Apple Watch Series eleven is their next
flagship smartphone. Love the better screen, It's thinner, brighter, f
four hours of battery now, which is great because they
do encourage you to wear it at night. And yes,
there is something called a sleep score which can help
analyze your sleep. It's more durable than previous versions, and
for the first time, hypertension monitoring for high blood pressure,
(05:14):
which is pretty cool. To compliment the bevy of other
health features that Apple Watch has. On the larger Apple
Watch Ultra three, which is more for outdoor enthusiasts and
you know, adventurous types, there's now satellite connectivity, so you
can actually send messages to people when you're off the grid,
when there's no cell phone towers, nearby or in an
(05:34):
emergency situation, you can message nine when one very cool stuff.
So as you can tell, no shortage of impressive Apple
products unveiled in Cooper Tino by Apple. Speaking of which,
let me press play on that interview recorded with seasoned
photographer and videographer Jefferson Graham to get his impressions on
the new iPhones.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
All right, I'm here with the one and only Jefferson Graham.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
If you did not read his thousands of articles in
USA Today over the years the decades, you probably now
watch them on Scripts News.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
He has a weekly.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Show there streaming online as well as his YouTube channel
for photo walks.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Great to see you, Jefferson, as always.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Same here Mark.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
All right, So we're here live right now at the
iPhone seventeen launch and right outside of Steve Jobs Theater
at Apple Park. You are, of course a photography guy
who better to talk to you about the new iPhone
seventeen family and the new iPhone Air When it comes
to photo and video quality top level?
Speaker 5 (06:31):
What's your first impressions?
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Okay, very simple? Improved self least way, improve selfiest, which
I think is going to be the number one thing
for people, A better telephoto with which we'll get you
way closer to the action, which I've been asking for
for years. And I'm very impressed. As far as the
iPhone Air and no, no, there's only one camera on
that thing, and it's digital zoom. So and also it's
(06:54):
thinner and it's lighter, and really, who cares? My iPhone
now is thinner and lighter. It's really didn't do anything more?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Maybe all right, so you're not sold on the new
form factor a five point six inch iPhone Air that,
according to Apple, doesn't sacrifice durability.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
We'll see when it's out in the wild.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But again, from a photography standpoint, you probably focus mostly
on iPhone seventeen Pro and iPhone seventeen Pro Max, which
is larger. You touched on selfies. Apple said during their
conference today that five hundred billions selfies were taken around
the world last year on iPhone, which is more than
any other smartphone. Probably not surprising, So what is new
(07:32):
with the selfies? Talk to us about the new orientation options.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
One of the biggest problems with taking selfies is that
you can't fit people in the frame, and most people
shoot them vertically when they should actually shoot them horizontally,
and now Apple is going to shift it horizontally even
if you shoot it vertically, and they're going to fit
more people in the frame. It just does it all automatically,
and I've just complained with it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So not only can you widen the camera or even
leverage if you like.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
To center you better.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
That's the center stage technology, I guess.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
But it's also higher resolution, right, eighteen megapixels now.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Eighteen instead of twelve. And you know we have the
selfie camera that a lot of times you just don't
want to use because it's this lower resolution. So I'm
all for the higher resolution. And I'm really excited about
the eight X telephoto zoom, which is a big step
up from five x.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Is that on the regular IDs?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
On seventeen?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
That's on the pro models?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Okay, so on the pro models if you are you
take your photography seriously as you do, you can now
get closer to the action, and that's important. I know
other phonemakers have done that for a while, but you
will impress overall with the rear cameras now on the
iPhone forty eight megapixel I think for all three right.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Yes, that's great. Because for my money, the one X
lens is the sharpest, most consistent lens, and the other
ones are not as good in low light and they
really fall apart.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
And the other two are telephoto and wide angles.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
All right, for why ultra try?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So now between the three and what's this fusion or
technology they were talking about.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
That's digital zoom where they crop a section of the
image and they use AI to alter it and make
it into something that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's not just like the new Wizard of Oz of
the sphere that people are happy about.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
The Samsung and the Google Pixel both they tap out
at five X, so ax is a big, big selling
point for app.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Okay, that's optical zoom, not digital zoom.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
They told me here it's optical zoom.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Yeah, all right, awesome, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And then now let's talk about dual recording.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So I know there have been some third party apps
that can do this in other phonemakers, but the idea
is that you can now shoot a video of somebody
using the rear camera but also record yourself at the
same time, picture and picture.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Do you like that?
Speaker 6 (09:41):
There's been absolutely let you do this for years.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It's a gimmick.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
I'll use it once and I'll never do it again.
Now there are YouTube videos where people react to things,
so maybe this is going to be easier for them
to do that.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I'm not the person who wants to do it, but
I'd rather have it than not.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So I I was thinking the same thing for content creators.
If you're recording something and you want to be on
camera at the same time, I like that idea. You
can also move around where the window is, so if
it's obstructing your view.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
You could just take your finger and move it. So
I can see content creators doing this or.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Maybe you know soccer moms right, they want to, you know,
record their kids playing soccer, but they also want to
share with their friends their own reaction.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Okay, So it reminds me of the timestamp that was
we used to put on camporders. Do you remember that
you have a big green blinking light and then when
you watch it, you say, oh, geez, I ruined my video.
Why is it there? And so so Johnny is going
to make this goal and then mom's on there talking
about it. I don't want to see that.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I want to say, Johnny, fair enough, all right, before
I let you go.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Any other thoughts across iPhone seventeen when it comes to
photography or a video anything we missed Next.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I know, I think we got it one hundred dollars
more for the Pro model for the Pro Max model,
which I did expect. I was actually surprised the other
ones did not go up in price considering the tariffs.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Okay, overall, you are impressed with the iPhone seventeen Pro
and Promas, not so much on the iPhone Air exactly.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
This is actually a better event than we've had since
the fifteen Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Always great to see you. Thank you so much for
carving out some time to chat.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Not a problem.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Okay, a few more minutes about the iPhone and other
Apple devices with tech analyst Avi Greengart.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
When we return on tech it Out, stay with us.
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I was at Apple Park in Kupertino, California, hands on
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with the new iPhone, Air, iPhone seventeen's, Apple Watch and
AirPods Pro three. But for his take on these new devices,
who better to turn to than Avi green Guard, a
well known and respected tech analysts who I caught up
with after the keynote. So let's go ahead and play that.
Of course, I'm going to run into av green Guard
(13:05):
from Tech Financial at.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Apple Park right outside of Steve Jobs Theater.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
He's for so leading analysts in the tech space. Nice
to see you, Avi. Ho do you like the show today?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Well?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
These are always fun.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
When Apple introduces more than one new product with some
actually significant features, it makes the event a lot better,
especially since we're mostly coming all the way out here
just to watch a video that you can watch at home.
And what the key is that we do get hands
on afterwards. I got ears on with the new AirPods Pro,
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I got risked on with the new Apple Watches, and
got hands on with the new iPhones, all of them.
So it is impressive how you can take some iterative
changes but built on top of the platform that is
so ubiquitous and so powerful that some of these products
will change people's or save people's lives. Some we'll just
(14:00):
make things more fun, like being able to take a
selfie while holding your phone vertically, but having the selfie
take horizontally. That's going to keep a lot of people
from dropping their phones. Ain't going to be much better sealthies.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
So there's a lot to unpack here.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Why don't we start with the iPhone seventeen as well
as iPhone Air, the slimmest iPhone ever unveiled, five point
six millimeters thin.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
What did you find the most impressive?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You already touched on the front facing camera, So taking
selfies is going to get better now because you don't
have to change the orientation manually. You can just tap
a button or have the AI do it. In fact,
it put you front and center because of that AI
where you impress overall with the iPhone family, So the.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
iPhone seventeen, just the base model, seems so like a
bit of a bargain at the moment because the price
didn't go up, it got faster, the camera's got better,
and it has better battery life, so better all the
way around, and same price. So that's is going to
make somebody immediately upgrade. Not necessarily, but if you need
a new phone, this is a pretty.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Good ride, right.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Speaking of the cameras, they also showed how you can
record a video and yourself at the same time.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
So I can envision the content.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Creators liking that you're recording something maybe a clip of
a concert, and the camera is also recording you picture
and picture do.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
You think that's a useful feature? I know there have
been apps that a lot you'd let you do that,
or other phone makers. It can be useful.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So now let's talk iPhone seventeen Pro and promax a
beef your processor, the A nineteen Pro better cameras. Now
on the Pro models you rear cameras are three separate cameras,
with each forty eight megapixels of detail.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Did you think that was impressive?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
So?
Speaker 7 (15:38):
I think the most impressive part is that by introducing
the iPhone error, it gives Apple's designers permissions to go
all out for just battery life, durability, and performance on
the iPhone seventeen Pro family, and the iPhone seventeen Pro
is actually for pro. Even I, as a pseudo semi
(16:03):
not really content creator from most of my analysis is
delivered in conversational or text form. But even I, I'm
never gonna use half of what this thing can do.
But it's bigger beef here, and it's got longer battery life,
and that's pretty great. The one thing that isn't pushing
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people to upgrade to it is that even the iPhone seventeen,
the base model, now has variable refresh rate displays, which
is something that a lot of tech reviewers have been
complaining about for years. I'm not sure that most consumers
have actually noticed, but it was a reason too, if
you did care, it was a reason to move up
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to the pros.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So you're referring to the one hundred and twenty hertz
refresh rate on the iPhone screen now, which makes scrolling
a lot smoother, and gameplay previously was half that.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
It was this typical sixty frames per second. So do
you think this is noticeable?
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Yeah, I mean I've played around with it. The issue
isn't whether it's noticeable for me. It's the issue is
whether it's noticeable for literally hundreds of millions of people
who've bought iPhones without it and haven't been complaining. Where
it really will impact people is not that, oh, now
this scrolling is smoother, and it will be and maybe
hopefully people will notice it because it's much much better.
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Where it's going to impact people is that it's variable. So,
in other words, the screen doesn't need to refresh if
you're not actually doing something that needs a constant refresh,
and that leads to better battery life.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Right, Yeah, So as low as one hurts, they said,
up to one hundred and twenty depending on what you're
doing or not doing with your phone. And again at
the end of the day, all these bells and whistles
don't mean anything if your phone is dying by lunch.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Once again, pardon the ambient noise.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We were at the Steve Jobs Theater where I caught
up with Avi Greengart. We're going to take a short
break and continue our chat about the new Apple family
of products iPhone Air, iPhone seventeen, including the Pro and
Pro Max, Apple AirPods three, and Apple Watch Series eleven,
Ultra three and s E three. So Latsta unpac still
(18:11):
stick with us more check it out Coming right off
after this, I want.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
To follow Mark Google Mark with a C and Saltzman
with a Z breaking down geeks Peak into streetspeak. This
is check it Out Check it out with technology columnist, author,
(18:36):
and TV personality Mark Saltzman.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Welcome back to check it out everyone.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
If you are just tuning in now, I've been chatting
with Avi Greengart, a well known tech analyst with a
company called Texponential. I caught up with Avey at Apple's
headquarters in Northern California, just.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Outside of Steve Jobs Theater.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
When Tim Cook left the stage, we learned all about
the new iPhones and Apple Watch and air pods, and
then we got some hands on time with all the products.
So let's continue that chat with Ave just outside of
Steve Jobs Theater.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Let's now pivot and talk Apple Watch.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
So Apple Watch Series eleven, Apple Watch Ultra three, and.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Even a new se a lesser price model debuted. What
did do you think?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
We're the call out features on these twa models.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
So the biggest call out feature is that the iPhone,
the Apple Watch se gotta get some major upgrades. So
that's the low priced one, that's the entry level model,
and now it has more of the health features, and
I think that's going to be very significant. And the
significant on two levels. One is it's just a really
good product. The bigger one though, is in my research,
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I've seen that once people buy an Apple Watch, they're
really tied to the Apple ecosystem. They don't want to leave.
The Apple Watch is a great, great product. So even
at the two hundred and forty nine dollars level, you're
getting more than you did before. The series eleven apple
Watches now have hypertension notifications and that's just going to
save people's watch so it can.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Detect if you've got high blood pressure over a period
of time I think a minimum of thirty days and
alert you to it so you can then use that
information to share with your physician actionable insights if you will.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I think that's a game changer as well. They did
clarify that it.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Wasn't FDA approved yet, but yeah, so coming soon, they said, to.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
One hundred and twenty countries.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's very exciting to complement what they already have like
a heart rate sensing and blood oxygen levels and all that.
It's great to have that under the hood of the
Apple Watch. And they also I think it's a slimmer display,
more durable, better brightness, So again ticking all the boxes
without sacrificing battery life. The Ultra three now has satellite connectivity.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Can you explain what that means.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
That means that when you're out of self coverage, which
is something that someone who buys a watch called Ultra
might actually want to do, you'll be able to have
find my still work, You'll be able to over satellite,
You'll be able to do some message over satellite, not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Every kind of messaging that you're camping and you get
lost in the woods, you can do that text.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
For help, correct emergency SOS over satellite is one of
the key features for this, and it makes it sort
of a survival watch. But I still think that the
main reason people buy the Apple Watch Ultra is because
it has a bigger screen and a bigger battery.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
And the screen got even bigger, even though.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
The case is the same size, right, because it's the
bezel's shrunk just a little bit. It's a little bit
brighter for better visibility in direct sunlight. And the battery
got a little bigger too. So all these things just
make your Ultra Watch more ultra. And yeah, if you
take it camping, I'm never going camping, but if you
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take it camping camping, maybe yes, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You've got a bunch of kids.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
They may want to go at a tear vanning with
you one day. All kidding aside, I be I just
want to take one more minute of your time and
ask you to talk about air Pods Pro three. They
kick off the conference with that, after a bit about design,
which I think was an important distinction that Tim Cook
called out compared to other phonemakers and tech companies out there.
But then they dove really fast into AirPods Pro three.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
What's unique there.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
These are the best selling air pods in the world,
now even better.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
I guess, significantly better. I actually got ears on with
them here. And the active noise cancelation is improved in
two ways. One, they're using foam ear tips and that
does so much of a better job of sealing your
ear can.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's passive noise canceling.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Correct, but that adds to the overall capabilities rather than
the rubber tips that it used to ship with, so
that alone, and it's more comfortable too, at least in
my case, so the fit is better. It's more comfortable then,
both from a passive and an active perspective. The active
noise cancelation is just much better on this. I'm a
little annoyed that they haven't handed me a review unit
(22:58):
that I can take on my series of flights tomorrow home.
I have the last generation with me that will have
to do until I get the NU once. There's also
a heart rate.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Monitor on it so you can use it for.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Exercising, and there are two critical battery life improvements one
is it now lasts eight hours with active noise cancelation on,
which is really good for those of us who take
six hour flights regularly and had our airpod's approaches die
before the end of the flight, which has happened to
me on multiple occasions. The other is that transparency mode
(23:33):
now lasts for ten hours, and that's crucial for people
who use this as a hearing aid, and so you'll
be able to use that basically for a full workday.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And then finally, they also unveiled real time language translation
powered by Apple Intelligence, So if you're talking with somebody
who speaks another language, it will tell you in real
time in your ears, almost real time, what they're saying
in your native time.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Well, we'll see how well that works.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
That's one of these HEI features that I've seen from
other manufacturers. It works, sometimes it doesn't work, others sometimes
it works, but there's so much of a delay I
have to test that before I'm willing to call that
a game changer or anything like that. But again, price
stayed the same two hundred and forty nine dollars. They
sound better, the noise cancelation is better, they fit better,
(24:22):
They have new health features, and you know, even if
the translation is gobbledebook, I'm excited about these.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Finally, where can we follow you in your work? Where
can our listeners tune in for more?
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Great to see you have a great rest.
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This is episode four eleven for one one. We're giving
you the info you need on tech trends. We talked
a lot about Apple, but when we return, we're going
to talk networking in the home, what's new in Wi
Fi and smart home gear with net Gear.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
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Wi Fi is critical at home today because it's the
backbone to your experiences like entertainment. Right we're streaming TV
shows and music and downloading games to your console or PC.
It's also used for productivity, especially for those who work
at home even partially or students doing homework. And Wi
Fi is also needed for accessing smart home gear like
(27:00):
video door bells, security cameras, smart lights, and so much more.
Don't believe me, just ask your Alexa, Google or Sirie
smart speaker, which also needs Wi Fi to work. To
talk with us about what's new and Wi Fi, we're
joined by Netgear on the line. We've got sand Deep Harpolani.
He's VP of Product Management at Netgear. Welcome back to
the show, Sandeep. Good to chat with you again.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Thank you. I'm glad to be back here Mark and
talk to you one more time about Wi Fi my
favorite subject.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Sure, let's start there. Actually, let's talk about the importance
of good Wi Fi at home.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, so, I think, as you mentioned, wi Fi is
actually a basic necessity for us today. It really drives
everything that we do from work, entertainment, our social connections.
A lot of the devices that you have inside most
likely the next appliance that you will buy will have
some kind of Internet connectivity. I haven't come across anybody
(27:54):
who has said that he will have less number of
connected devices next year as they want they have today.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So we're on the same page about the importance of
Wi Fi ensure you know there are still wired devices.
There are still a couple of I don't know, smart
TVs and laptops that have an Ethernet connection. But we
love the convenience of not being tethered to the wall.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
We can even take our.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Laptop or tablet outside, especially this time of year, you
want to download an ebook to your reader on a
porch or a backyard deck. Wi Fi allows you to
do that as well. So tell us a bit about netgear.
This company has been around for a while, what is
it almost thirty years now.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
That is correct. We are actually founded in nineteen ninety
six and have what the first company that was focused
on consumer networking and we continue to be very focused
on that market and true to our mission of providing
innovative solutions for connectivity to power extraordinary experiences. And we
(28:51):
have a full suite of networking products from your Wi
Fi routers, mesh solutions. We'll talk more about it, range, extenders, adapters,
power line, anything that you would need in your home
to connect devices most likely will have an option for that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And so what separates net Gear would you say from
other networking companies?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Out there.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I know there are a few.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I think one of the key things that separates us
from others is really our experience in terms of building
Wi Fi, building Wi Fi products that are reliable, secure,
and high performance and provide your whole home coverage. There's
a lot that goes into building a Wi Fi product
that provides you the best performance in range. We basically
spend a lot of time in terms of designing these products.
(29:39):
Wi Fi is extremely sensitive to any kind of interference,
so there's a lot that goes into making sure that
you're getting the best range and performance, and we are
really building a product without understanding the customer home environment.
He might be living in a RAND style home, or
it might have a multi storied there might be different
type of materials that are used in terms of bricks
(30:00):
and so on, which have different level of Wi Fi
ability to go through that. So there's a lot that
goes into developing these products to make sure that it
works reliabily and gives you the best performance for your home.
Netgear has been a pioneer in terms of providing new solutions.
We were the first to build the first tryband, the
quadband WiFi outers. We were the first to do the
(30:23):
first range extenders. So we're done really looked at the market,
understand the market, and provide the best performance solutions to
this to make sure that our customers are able to
enjoy and power those extraordinary experiences that they're looking for.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And it's not just hardware, right sand Deep.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
There's also the software part which is critical, including cybersecurity
software which I understand that Netgear provides.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Can you tell us a bit about armor.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yes, So this is again as we look as I
spoke about understanding of the customers. As you have more
and more connected devices, customers are concerned about security. Now
you have your front lock, which might be having a
Bluetooth connection or wiapi Fi connection, so you want to
make sure that your home is secure. In earlier times,
you could basically have an anti virus running on your
(31:13):
laptop or PC and you're basically covered. But now you
have these IoT devices which do not have You cannot
run any kind of a software on those, any kind
of a security software on those, So you need something
that is running on the Wi Fi uder think of
it like a lock on your front door. That's how
it's almost basic security requirements. So as we have seen
(31:35):
these requirements change. We have basically developed this armored solution
which is to protect all the devices in your home network,
where we have partnered with the Biddefender, leading security company
to have a solution so that everything that's behind your
home network is secured. You don't need to run specifically
software on every device that is.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
In your home. IoT, of course, is an acronym for
Internet of Things. These are the millions of devices out
there that all can talk to one another, and that
includes those smart home devices in your home that I
allude to off the top, like security cameras and video
door bells, even things you wear like a smart watch,
a smart ring. We're all connected and that they need
to be secure at every access point to the Internet.
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What don't we now chat about the latest wireless standard
called Wi Fi seven.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Is it time to upgrade to this?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Yes, so there are some significant improvements. Number one is
of course the speed improvements. It's got a four x
speed improvement as compit the last Wi Fi six standard.
But more important than that, improvements in terms of the
robustness of Wi Fi reduction in terms of latency, so
things like if you're playing a gaming application or if
(32:47):
you want a more secure connection. People are using it
for work, have zoom calls, and so on, video streaming.
All these applications will benefit with Wi Fi seven all.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Right, So it's for faster beads and lower latency, which
is related supporting more devices at the same time, and
other benefits security as you mentioned, more with Netgear when
we return on tech it Out, Stay with us.
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Speaker 2 (33:27):
We are chatting with Sandy Parpolani. He is a vice
president of product management at net Gear, a leading networking company.
So how would you know when it's time to upgrade, Like,
let's say we've got listeners right now, thinking well, I'm
perfectly content with my existing router.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Maybe it's Wi Fi six or six E, one of
these slightly older standards. How do you know?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Is it because things just don't work as smoothly. You're watching,
you know, a show on Netflix and it's buffering. You're
seeing that little symbol in the middle of the TV
that says wait kind of Maybe you don't realize that
from a security standpoint, that your data is at risk
when it is.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, There are actually a lot of factors here. One
of course is, as you mentioned, the buffering part of it.
If your outer is three to four years old, most
likely you or at least maybe two generations behind. In
terms of Wi Fi, a lot of things have improved
in terms of speed, in terms of connectivity, in terms
of security, and it makes sense for as if you're
(34:21):
using this Wi Fi, as you're most likely you are.
People don't think about it, like how many more connected
devices have you added in the last three to.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Four years, probably a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
How much has your Internet speeds increased in the last
couple of years. How many more subscriptions do you have
for your video streaming or gaming? How much more usage
you have because you're now we're doing work from home,
you're doing a zoom calls, you're doing your work calls,
and so on. All of those things take need to
be taken into consideration, and I think one of the
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best ways that I recommend is for people to run
their speed test near the router and then maybe run
the same speed test in other areas of the home.
Maybe you're now working one to work in the backyard,
as you mentioned, or you have a new electric car
that needs to be upgraded in it and that that
requires a connection or your IP cameras that are all
around the home. Now your usage has changed and it
(35:13):
will be making sense. Maybe run that same speed test
at those areas and see are you getting similar speeds
or not. So if you're paying for a gigabit of
internet and add that farthest corner, if you're only getting
one hundred megabits or even ten megabits and so on,
effectively you're not using maybe ninety nine percent of the
bandwidth that you're paying for.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Right, great point, And if people want to activate a
speed test, it's very easy. Just go in your web
browser and do a search for speed tests and you'll
find different ones available like Ukla is a popular one,
dob Kla. It'll show you the download speeds and compare
that to what you're paying for and what you're supposed
to be getting.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
It's a great point, Sandy.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Before we talk netgear solutions, some actual product names that
we may want to take note of. Tell us a
bit about mesh. I know it's not new, but for
those in a larger home or maybe an older home
with say concrete walls, a MESH system may be ideal
multi room solution.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
That is correct. So the one of the fundamental issues
that mesh solves is of coverage. This is again laws
of physics. As you move away from a WiFi outer,
your speed goes down. That's where the mesh system comes
and it's multiple units, so it could be two units,
it could be three units. You take the main Wi
Fi outer, are connected to wherever you're getting your Internet connection,
(36:24):
and then you have satellites or no it s as
you call it in terms of that it can be
spread throughout the.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Home lit a little pucks that you plug in the wall.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yes, and then it doesn't require any wired connection or anything.
It's all connected through Wi Fi and you have the
same Wi Fi network name throughout. So as you move
around in your home, maybe as you're doing a call
a zoom call, you don't see any kind of a disconnections.
You're basically getting the similar level of performance that you're
getting on one end of the house to another hand
of the house. And that's where our products come in
(36:54):
or becomes in. Specifically, I think our differentiation here is
for these mesh systems is not only do we provide
that in these range we try to get you a
similar kind of Internet speeds that you're getting at radio
routers to radio satellite says.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Could you tell us just for a minute or so,
what some of the Netgear brand names we should look for,
our model numbers we should be looking for.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
So for our mesh products. And that's the range of
Mesh solutions.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Right, So that's O RBI.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
We have a whole range of Wi Fi seven ORB
Mesh products, the best in classes, the ORB nine seventy.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
All right, So Netgear is the company. Orb is the
brand that I think a lot of our listeners would
want to make note of.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
That's O RBI.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
There's Mesh systems, there's routers, there's something for different applications.
If you're a hardcore gamer, you're going to want a
higher end, a faster solution. But there certainly there's no
shortage of them. Is the best website simply Netgear dot
com to get going or would you recommend a particular retailer.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
No, Netgear dot com is a great place to stop.
Basically you can look at our mesh products. You can
look at it. A standalone routers which is the Nighthawk
goes under the brand name of nighd Hawk, and we
have a whole full range of customers who are looking
for a standalone router, so you have all those options
that range extenders, adapters, all kinds of connectivity solutions to
(38:10):
make sure that you're getting the best Wi Fi throughout
your home.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I think we talked about night Hawk the last time
you were on the show. Sandy, thank you so much
for carving out some time to chat with us once again. Again,
Sandyparpolani's been our guest from Netgear Netgear dot com for more.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I hope you have a wonderful summer. Thanks again.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Thank you Mark Hey, and thank you for tuning into
tech it Out everyone. We chatted a lot about the
iPhone Air and iPhone seventeen and other Apple devices networking gear.
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It Out as well.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Have a great rest of your day, everyone, and I
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