January 8, 2025 • 19 mins
Join Paul Amadeus Lane live from CES 2025 as he explores the future of education technology! In this episode of The Tech Zone, Paul interviews Jacques Bogh, COO, CFO and late founder of Beekee, an innovative company tackling the challenges of connectivity in education. Discover how Beekee's groundbreaking solution is revolutionizing learning by providing reliable internet access and fostering creativity in classrooms around the world. Tune in to learn how Beekee is bridging the digital divide and empowering students and educators everywhere.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In this world of technology, things that ever changing, rearranging,
you need someone to.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Help you out.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I know someone that may be alone, you'll be I'm
a Day's Lane in the tech Zone. Welcome back to
the tech Zone. What's up is me, Paul Alma Dance Lane.
I am so delighted to have you back as day
two here at CES twenty twenty four. Hope you enjoyed
(00:28):
my first segment with the amazing Ali Fryand, who is
a CEES spokesperson extraordinaire, giving us a rundown of some
of the great things that happened on opening day and
some of the things she's going to look forward to
on day two. On Sunday Night, during CEES Unveiled, I
(00:48):
was introduced to an amazing product that dealt with education
Internet and I wanted to have the CEO joined me
to talk about this great piece of innovation. So I'm
sure you're going to enjoy that conversation we're going to
have shortly. But remember you can always connect with me
(01:08):
at Paul Amida's Lane dot com, on all social media platforms,
Paul Amade's Lane and even on LinkedIn. Because I am
a business man, because I'm all about my businessman, so
you can reach me on on LinkedIn as well. But hey,
without any further delay, let's welcome our very special guests
(01:30):
onto the tech Zone.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We have Jack Bo.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Jack is the COO and CFO of Bekey. What's going on, Jack?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm very willing, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Hey, great to have you with me. Man, So what
made you want to come to CEES and show off
this amazing innovation?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
So, in fact, we're still a relatively young company and
we don't know all the ecosystem of worldwide trade shows
and so on, but we're learning and we are supporting
this by the Swiss government through an outfit called Swiss Tech.
So they reach out, in fact, they send you kind
of almost yeah commercials or it's say, they reach out
and tell us about various trade shows and one of
(02:13):
the key trade shows for them, at least the CS.
So we looked into it and indeed it seems interesting
for us, and we we we figured that it would
be interesting to find new clients and new type of clients.
Because maybe we have NGOs and government agencies, we can
probably find private sector clients. We've already had some great
(02:34):
conversations plus investors and also a press coverage because we
are treating a very very big, very global problem where
in the end almost everyone knows someone who has something
to do with it, so any kind of press coverage
is very good for us.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And Jack, I forgot to say, you're even the late
founder of the company, so yes, I wanted to. I
wanted to make sure you know, I gave some props and.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Told in fact this week like five times now that oh,
you're still alive, so we need to do that, you.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Know, you know, talk about the inception of this, this innovation,
the origin story that got us here today. S CE
twenty five.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah, that's actually Sarah Deputy more than five years ago.
The company was founded roughly five years ago. The two
original founders were of course still on board, which who
are Vasant and Sergio Vincent and Cerchio.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Vincent.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
In fact, he was studying for his PhD in education
technology while having his already his master biology. He was
teaching at the equivalent of middle high school in the
canton of Geneva in Switzerland. He was teaching biology. Biology
is experiential, so ideally you want to exchange in class.
You want to say, look, this is what I've seen.
This is what I observed, and you want to exchange
(03:46):
pictures and so on. So he went to the school
leadership and said, can we please get on the Wi
Fi with my students and they said no.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Actually I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
But in my home Canton, Geneva, it's forbidden to let
students in middle high school onto the fine fine, I
understand why. So he invented the first iteration of the
Beikie box for this reason. So we're far away still
from you know, the the global suse and sun, but
as a word. At university, him and his friend Cerchio,
(04:15):
they bumped into some people who are more in the
humanitarian development area and swan and they suggested they go
to a conference. They went to this conference and there
was quite some interest, and especially there was a gentleman
from Nepal. He said, the big earthquake was six years ago,
but I still have these problems. I can't roll out
what I want to for these people who can't get education.
(04:35):
And this really solves my problem.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
How much is it? And they said, oh, it's a prototime.
You don't understand.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
We can't sell this, said, you don't, you don't understand
I have this problem this solves it and I'm leaving tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
How much is it?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
So in fact, they sold the first of those well
before they found the company. Then right after the sale,
they looked at each other and said, what was this
thing about again about the startups?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And they founded it. So that's how it came up.
And so let's say forward.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Now in factory, we've understood better how to find new clients,
find new contacts and sown. And then, as I said,
that's why we're at CES now.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And that's pretty amazing. That's pretty amazing. So saw the need,
fill the need, met the challenge and as and when
we look at education and also the connectivity when it
comes to it, some of us mean that, I realize
it's a real hard it's a really major problem, especially
here in the United States. But if you can talk
(05:31):
about that, why is it so important that every student
has access to some type of connectivity?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Yeah, there's like two two current questions in that. I
would say, why is education important? That's because it's the
software of the world. If you take that away, the
world will run less well. And there's according to UNESCO,
there's twenty and fifteen million children who have bad access
to education or none. Because the wars and so one
and three billion adults who have no access to any
(05:58):
kind of adult education. Now we think maybe adultgation is
not useful. But adults education can mean that you learn
about how to prevent ebola, or how to safeguard against HIV,
or what crop will work that and make you own
a little bit more money for your family, or how
to make peace after the big people have made peace,
How in fact with your neighbor whom you used to
(06:19):
hate because they did bad things, how can you make
peace last for that? So, in fact, that's education. That's
the software which will make the world run. Why some
form of connectivity, as you rightly point out as important,
is because if we do that with paper in the
old way, it's going to be very costly, and today
there is just no budget for that. Then I mean
(06:42):
it's it's it's a multiple mod It's like ten twenty,
I don't know, howney times more than what is spent
today today roughly fifty billion dollars in international aid money
I spent on adult education. Then if you go on
or say, if you create something electronic, it makes it
much more effective in principle at least because cheaper, better,
you can update the materials, you don't need to carry
(07:03):
paper around, you don't need to reprint it, and you
are much more certain about what goes on in the
training room or in the training itself is outside, and
you can follow statistics much more easily. So and as
you know what you don't measure, you can't manage. However,
then we bump into the second problem, which is connectivity.
(07:23):
There is a product called GIA which is a joint
venture between the ITU International Telecommunications Union and UNICEF, and
they would like to connect all the schools in the world.
That would cost roughly four hundred billion dollars one stuff
and UNESCO. The colleagues from UNESCO say that connecting the
(07:44):
world for education the low salts would cost one billion
dollars per year. The overall eight budget off the world
is twenty and eighty billion per year, so the budget
does not exist. And this is where we come in
because we can solve this problem with much less of
a financial effort and it'll with better up times basically.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
And you also bought the innovation here for us to
look at. So yes, I want to give us a
little a little tour of of this amazing innovation.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
So it's so it's basically an autonomous Wi Fi server
with a computer its outlines to deploy digital classrooms like
what we have at universities in the US for instance, Uh,
when my children study in Europe, but everywhere without internet
or power. The way it works is a little bit
(08:32):
like an iPod fifteen years ago, meaning it sees the
Internet only when it's connected to a PC which is online.
That's its window to the world, and that's outlines. Typically
will find such a PC once a week, once a month,
and that's when, in fact, there's a learning management system
on board. That's what's used in fact the containers so
to speak, to make it easy to great curricula and
(08:53):
so on. The world leading one is called MOODLE and
it happens to be open source and that's the one
we're using. And we synchronize this so when is connected,
it will synchronized with a central server all our clients
are and JeOS and Soana have a big central server
with the information synchronizes learner identities, learner progressions. So how
did they is saw Paul during this course against malaria,
(09:14):
he took all five modules and potentially also the contents
and when I'm done, I'm disconnected and then it doesn't
see anything any longer.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
It has no antenna or whatsoever to speak to the Internet,
but it.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Does have a Wi Fi antenna and with this it
can create its own Wi Fi, its own digital classroom
wherever you want to go. It also has a powerful
computer and up to two terra byto storage, so that's
like several masters worth. And this means that our clients
and today we're lucky to have the International Committee of
the Red Cross, we have doctors without borders, and we
also have ASU Arizona State University.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
They can go wherever they want.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
They've been to Myanmas, South Sudan, Kenya. They could even
go into a submarine. When they push this button, then
can create a digital classroom for up to forty learners
who can then connect with you know, with their smartphones
or their tablets or their PCs if available.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Wow, that's a mouthful friend, but is packed in a
lot of innovation, a lot of tech for good. Yes,
And what was the challenge of creating something like that?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I would say from a technical point of view, the
biggest challenge was not so much the box, it was
a synchronization. In fact, synchronizing things is very very hard.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I suppose the box.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Has seen Paul and he's taken modules four, five, six,
and the central server server has seen Paul and he's
taken one or three four. How do we and he
got different marks? Maybe I don't know? How do we
resolve these conflicts? So that's one of the key aspects
of synchronizations. And what if we have five poles or
honey poles and so on. All this needs to be solved.
(10:47):
So that's that's the secret sauce. That's a really difficult
thing to do, and that was the main technical challenge.
Then Visa vi our customers I was, I would say,
v the market it is so new that people don't
imagine that exists. Imagine if I had invented teleportation and
I came to you and said, okay, I have I
want to sell a teleportation. I really need to go
(11:09):
to you, find you and explain to you that it
does exist, because you're not going to google cheap teleportation
near me or things like that. So, in fact, we
first needed to educate the market. We're still educating the market.
But when people understand, especially those who faced the problem,
which is a huge global problem. But then in fact
they you know, when they're hear without internet or power,
(11:30):
very often I get wow, tell me more, and that's
it's a nice moment for.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Us, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
That's how I was when I first met you. I
was like, wow, tell me more, you know, and I
wanted to find out more about it and wanted to
make sure our audience was familiar with it. What has
been the feedback from once here at cees when they
when they see the salvation?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
So a great deal of interest and so again different categories.
I would say the media, a lot of media, as
you say in tree, some of them okay, a bit
of target for or to say, off the radar for
them of their their core group or whatever. However, yeah,
quite a bit of interest from the media from from
(12:10):
potential clients as well. So there aren't many NGOs, but
there are some government agencies of various types, and there
are also some private sector companies which are exactly what
we're interested in speaking with, you know, for dispersed teams.
If you're in construction or catering or things like that,
then you know, sometimes they're like, how can this be useful?
(12:31):
To me and or you feel that that's going on
and they want to to move on, you know, to
the next boost. And then maybe I'll be saying, oh,
my colleagues will be saying, yeah, it sounds like you
have dispersed teams. How do you train your people in retail?
You know, do you need to set up for a
long time? Does it always work? And then ah, yes,
maybe that's a good idea. I'll leave you my card
(12:51):
and we get in touch. So rather rather good interest,
I would say. So, I'm very we're very happy with
the ces so far.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh I'm glad glad to hear that happy about coming
to Cees because you traveled a long way, you know
to get here. Was it all that that that you
thought it would be.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yeah, I thought it was very hectic. Then I was
a little bit. I mean, it's at the human level,
you know. One of the things I wasn't really getting
my head around was the geographics of it and for instance,
finding your booth today. It's actually it's a bit of
a challenge almost because it is so big. And another
(13:30):
thing was how hectic is always how much it's like
drinking from the fire hose, as you say, here in
the US, it's you know, there are some moments during
the day with one two minutes maybe there's no wonder
where the three of us catching up. But then okay,
then there's a few of people and at the same
time were also practively going to people in the alley
and so on, and then you're just busy, busy the
(13:51):
whole day and even more than I would say. It's
the busiest trade show I've ever been to.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I call it the super Bowl of Technology. It's like
seven football fields, Jock. I mean, you wouldn't be able
to go see everything. It's like it is so big
because you're over in the Venetian Park, right.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yep, I am, yes, so eureka.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Soa what Jack had to do to come to me today,
He had a half a shuttle arn uber from the
Venetian Hotel.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Jack walked.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Actually, oh Jack, to be sure you walked from me
your week.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Apart, Yeah, to be sure to be on time and
that it would work because I've been told stories so again,
I don't know. I've been told stories that I might
get stuck on both the shuttle four a mile or whatever,
as it wasn't sure at least walking, but I was
sure motris as to when I would arrive.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
So this time around I did that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Okay, how old did you take a walk here? I
mean sety minutes thirty ear fast water, but took me
also quite a bit of time. Was ready to find
your booth? But yeah, yeah, I found.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Its longer to find a booth and the walk over
almost Yeah, we're over in the West Hall. So so
Jacques walk from the Venetian to the Convention Center to
the West Hall and then to find us and all
this all it's like trying to find what a marble
and a haystack or a needle in a haystack, right,
So we appreciate you, uh making that that journey over
(15:14):
and and as Jacques, as we kind of kind of
around up our discussion right here, I wanted to to
again just talk about, you know, the target audience, the
core users, the businesses out there that that you want
to to go after.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Not only here at CES but post c S two.
Once we are listening or viewing this interview right here,
if you can share that with them, how they can
even connect with BCH.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, so we are interested. Let's say our biggest market
U and remain that way very likely, because it's the
biggest market fund alteredication in the world is development, and
that's Angie's government agencies and so on. As I said,
we're interested, TOSC said in meeting private sector companies. So
(16:02):
companies and there we have three main use cases which
are dispersed teams as I mentioned, so during construction, catering,
all in gas, retail, training and so on. How do
you avoid telling people to move a hundred miles to
a place to train in a month and a half.
How can you train them immediately now without any kind
(16:22):
of set of issues with the biki box. Then there's
also cyber sensitive industrial sites. You know how in fact
industrial machines they are among the least protected against cyber attacks.
And so the caeeseos, the chief information security officers, they
always would like to airir gap factories at least for
training within the factories. With this, you can air gap
(16:45):
because you will not get onto the corporate network. And yeah,
and the final one is of course, when multinationals train
for instance, farmers, textile workers in that global supply chains,
if you think of it were in Switzerland, I'm happy
to have an espresso, very good coffee.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, I am.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
That's Swiss, and they have a million farms in their
supply chain and they need to tell them how to
make a better coffee bean as well as one and more.
They must tell them about human rights. It's part of
the package. It's from for instance, don't give your your
passport to your to your boss and so on. So
these are the three segments we're looking at within the
(17:22):
private sector. And to get in touch with us, you
can contact me. You can find your LinkedIn jack Berry,
or you can find k on LinkedIn, or you can
find us online and with BK dot c H dot
com BK dot c H which is the Swiss suffix.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Awesome, Jach, thank you so much for coming by the
show by coming over here to cees and sow and office.
A amazing piece of innovation and uh uh miss wishing
you a lot of success when it comes to this,
and UH definitely want to keep up on this conversation
with you with pleasure and you know, in the months
to come, just to see how how how things are going,
(18:00):
because I really do think the fact that you are
hitting a pain point that needs to be hit when
it comes to this type of challenge when it comes
to connectivity, and so.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
We thank you so much, thank you, thank you for
having me.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, and please take a shuttle back to you in
your park wall. I feel bad that you did a
walk over here, but thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So everyone. This is the end of our our second
day of our coverage here at CEES twenty twenty five.
I remember, we're going to release some more content, some
more uh interviews, some more things on screaming social media.
To make sure that you are keeping it locks here
(18:50):
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and I love you all the life take it in
this world of technology is ever change, rearranging. You need
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Speaker 3 (19:05):
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I know someone that may be alone, you'll be I'm
a Day's Lane in the tech Zone. Welcome back to
the tech Zone. What's up is me, Paul Alma Dance Lane.
I am so delighted to have you back as day
two here at CES twenty twenty four. Hope you enjoyed
(00:28):
my first segment with the amazing Ali Fryand, who is
a CEES spokesperson extraordinaire, giving us a rundown of some
of the great things that happened on opening day and
some of the things she's going to look forward to
on day two. On Sunday Night, during CEES Unveiled, I
(00:48):
was introduced to an amazing product that dealt with education
Internet and I wanted to have the CEO joined me
to talk about this great piece of innovation. So I'm
sure you're going to enjoy that conversation we're going to
have shortly. But remember you can always connect with me
(01:08):
at Paul Amida's Lane dot com, on all social media platforms,
Paul Amade's Lane and even on LinkedIn. Because I am
a business man, because I'm all about my businessman, so
you can reach me on on LinkedIn as well. But hey,
without any further delay, let's welcome our very special guests
(01:30):
onto the tech Zone.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We have Jack Bo.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Jack is the COO and CFO of Bekey. What's going on, Jack?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm very willing, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Hey, great to have you with me. Man, So what
made you want to come to CEES and show off
this amazing innovation?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
So, in fact, we're still a relatively young company and
we don't know all the ecosystem of worldwide trade shows
and so on, but we're learning and we are supporting
this by the Swiss government through an outfit called Swiss Tech.
So they reach out, in fact, they send you kind
of almost yeah commercials or it's say, they reach out
and tell us about various trade shows and one of
(02:13):
the key trade shows for them, at least the CS.
So we looked into it and indeed it seems interesting
for us, and we we we figured that it would
be interesting to find new clients and new type of clients.
Because maybe we have NGOs and government agencies, we can
probably find private sector clients. We've already had some great
(02:34):
conversations plus investors and also a press coverage because we
are treating a very very big, very global problem where
in the end almost everyone knows someone who has something
to do with it, so any kind of press coverage
is very good for us.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And Jack, I forgot to say, you're even the late
founder of the company, so yes, I wanted to. I
wanted to make sure you know, I gave some props and.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Told in fact this week like five times now that oh,
you're still alive, so we need to do that, you.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Know, you know, talk about the inception of this, this innovation,
the origin story that got us here today. S CE
twenty five.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah, that's actually Sarah Deputy more than five years ago.
The company was founded roughly five years ago. The two
original founders were of course still on board, which who
are Vasant and Sergio Vincent and Cerchio.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Vincent.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
In fact, he was studying for his PhD in education
technology while having his already his master biology. He was
teaching at the equivalent of middle high school in the
canton of Geneva in Switzerland. He was teaching biology. Biology
is experiential, so ideally you want to exchange in class.
You want to say, look, this is what I've seen.
This is what I observed, and you want to exchange
(03:46):
pictures and so on. So he went to the school
leadership and said, can we please get on the Wi
Fi with my students and they said no.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Actually I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
But in my home Canton, Geneva, it's forbidden to let
students in middle high school onto the fine fine, I
understand why. So he invented the first iteration of the
Beikie box for this reason. So we're far away still
from you know, the the global suse and sun, but
as a word. At university, him and his friend Cerchio,
(04:15):
they bumped into some people who are more in the
humanitarian development area and swan and they suggested they go
to a conference. They went to this conference and there
was quite some interest, and especially there was a gentleman
from Nepal. He said, the big earthquake was six years ago,
but I still have these problems. I can't roll out
what I want to for these people who can't get education.
(04:35):
And this really solves my problem.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
How much is it? And they said, oh, it's a prototime.
You don't understand.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
We can't sell this, said, you don't, you don't understand
I have this problem this solves it and I'm leaving tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
How much is it?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
So in fact, they sold the first of those well
before they found the company. Then right after the sale,
they looked at each other and said, what was this
thing about again about the startups?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And they founded it. So that's how it came up.
And so let's say forward.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Now in factory, we've understood better how to find new clients,
find new contacts and sown. And then, as I said,
that's why we're at CES now.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And that's pretty amazing. That's pretty amazing. So saw the need,
fill the need, met the challenge and as and when
we look at education and also the connectivity when it
comes to it, some of us mean that, I realize
it's a real hard it's a really major problem, especially
here in the United States. But if you can talk
(05:31):
about that, why is it so important that every student
has access to some type of connectivity?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Yeah, there's like two two current questions in that. I
would say, why is education important? That's because it's the
software of the world. If you take that away, the
world will run less well. And there's according to UNESCO,
there's twenty and fifteen million children who have bad access
to education or none. Because the wars and so one
and three billion adults who have no access to any
(05:58):
kind of adult education. Now we think maybe adultgation is
not useful. But adults education can mean that you learn
about how to prevent ebola, or how to safeguard against HIV,
or what crop will work that and make you own
a little bit more money for your family, or how
to make peace after the big people have made peace,
How in fact with your neighbor whom you used to
(06:19):
hate because they did bad things, how can you make
peace last for that? So, in fact, that's education. That's
the software which will make the world run. Why some
form of connectivity, as you rightly point out as important,
is because if we do that with paper in the
old way, it's going to be very costly, and today
there is just no budget for that. Then I mean
(06:42):
it's it's it's a multiple mod It's like ten twenty,
I don't know, howney times more than what is spent
today today roughly fifty billion dollars in international aid money
I spent on adult education. Then if you go on
or say, if you create something electronic, it makes it
much more effective in principle at least because cheaper, better,
you can update the materials, you don't need to carry
(07:03):
paper around, you don't need to reprint it, and you
are much more certain about what goes on in the
training room or in the training itself is outside, and
you can follow statistics much more easily. So and as
you know what you don't measure, you can't manage. However,
then we bump into the second problem, which is connectivity.
(07:23):
There is a product called GIA which is a joint
venture between the ITU International Telecommunications Union and UNICEF, and
they would like to connect all the schools in the world.
That would cost roughly four hundred billion dollars one stuff
and UNESCO. The colleagues from UNESCO say that connecting the
(07:44):
world for education the low salts would cost one billion
dollars per year. The overall eight budget off the world
is twenty and eighty billion per year, so the budget
does not exist. And this is where we come in
because we can solve this problem with much less of
a financial effort and it'll with better up times basically.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
And you also bought the innovation here for us to
look at. So yes, I want to give us a
little a little tour of of this amazing innovation.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
So it's so it's basically an autonomous Wi Fi server
with a computer its outlines to deploy digital classrooms like
what we have at universities in the US for instance, Uh,
when my children study in Europe, but everywhere without internet
or power. The way it works is a little bit
(08:32):
like an iPod fifteen years ago, meaning it sees the
Internet only when it's connected to a PC which is online.
That's its window to the world, and that's outlines. Typically
will find such a PC once a week, once a month,
and that's when, in fact, there's a learning management system
on board. That's what's used in fact the containers so
to speak, to make it easy to great curricula and
(08:53):
so on. The world leading one is called MOODLE and
it happens to be open source and that's the one
we're using. And we synchronize this so when is connected,
it will synchronized with a central server all our clients
are and JeOS and Soana have a big central server
with the information synchronizes learner identities, learner progressions. So how
did they is saw Paul during this course against malaria,
(09:14):
he took all five modules and potentially also the contents
and when I'm done, I'm disconnected and then it doesn't
see anything any longer.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
It has no antenna or whatsoever to speak to the Internet,
but it.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Does have a Wi Fi antenna and with this it
can create its own Wi Fi, its own digital classroom
wherever you want to go. It also has a powerful
computer and up to two terra byto storage, so that's
like several masters worth. And this means that our clients
and today we're lucky to have the International Committee of
the Red Cross, we have doctors without borders, and we
also have ASU Arizona State University.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
They can go wherever they want.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
They've been to Myanmas, South Sudan, Kenya. They could even
go into a submarine. When they push this button, then
can create a digital classroom for up to forty learners
who can then connect with you know, with their smartphones
or their tablets or their PCs if available.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Wow, that's a mouthful friend, but is packed in a
lot of innovation, a lot of tech for good. Yes,
And what was the challenge of creating something like that?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I would say from a technical point of view, the
biggest challenge was not so much the box, it was
a synchronization. In fact, synchronizing things is very very hard.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I suppose the box.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Has seen Paul and he's taken modules four, five, six,
and the central server server has seen Paul and he's
taken one or three four. How do we and he
got different marks? Maybe I don't know? How do we
resolve these conflicts? So that's one of the key aspects
of synchronizations. And what if we have five poles or
honey poles and so on. All this needs to be solved.
(10:47):
So that's that's the secret sauce. That's a really difficult
thing to do, and that was the main technical challenge.
Then Visa vi our customers I was, I would say,
v the market it is so new that people don't
imagine that exists. Imagine if I had invented teleportation and
I came to you and said, okay, I have I
want to sell a teleportation. I really need to go
(11:09):
to you, find you and explain to you that it
does exist, because you're not going to google cheap teleportation
near me or things like that. So, in fact, we
first needed to educate the market. We're still educating the market.
But when people understand, especially those who faced the problem,
which is a huge global problem. But then in fact
they you know, when they're hear without internet or power,
(11:30):
very often I get wow, tell me more, and that's
it's a nice moment for.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Us, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
That's how I was when I first met you. I
was like, wow, tell me more, you know, and I
wanted to find out more about it and wanted to
make sure our audience was familiar with it. What has
been the feedback from once here at cees when they
when they see the salvation?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
So a great deal of interest and so again different categories.
I would say the media, a lot of media, as
you say in tree, some of them okay, a bit
of target for or to say, off the radar for
them of their their core group or whatever. However, yeah,
quite a bit of interest from the media from from
(12:10):
potential clients as well. So there aren't many NGOs, but
there are some government agencies of various types, and there
are also some private sector companies which are exactly what
we're interested in speaking with, you know, for dispersed teams.
If you're in construction or catering or things like that,
then you know, sometimes they're like, how can this be useful?
(12:31):
To me and or you feel that that's going on
and they want to to move on, you know, to
the next boost. And then maybe I'll be saying, oh,
my colleagues will be saying, yeah, it sounds like you
have dispersed teams. How do you train your people in retail?
You know, do you need to set up for a
long time? Does it always work? And then ah, yes,
maybe that's a good idea. I'll leave you my card
(12:51):
and we get in touch. So rather rather good interest,
I would say. So, I'm very we're very happy with
the ces so far.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh I'm glad glad to hear that happy about coming
to Cees because you traveled a long way, you know
to get here. Was it all that that that you
thought it would be.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yeah, I thought it was very hectic. Then I was
a little bit. I mean, it's at the human level,
you know. One of the things I wasn't really getting
my head around was the geographics of it and for instance,
finding your booth today. It's actually it's a bit of
a challenge almost because it is so big. And another
(13:30):
thing was how hectic is always how much it's like
drinking from the fire hose, as you say, here in
the US, it's you know, there are some moments during
the day with one two minutes maybe there's no wonder
where the three of us catching up. But then okay,
then there's a few of people and at the same
time were also practively going to people in the alley
and so on, and then you're just busy, busy the
(13:51):
whole day and even more than I would say. It's
the busiest trade show I've ever been to.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I call it the super Bowl of Technology. It's like
seven football fields, Jock. I mean, you wouldn't be able
to go see everything. It's like it is so big
because you're over in the Venetian Park, right.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yep, I am, yes, so eureka.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Soa what Jack had to do to come to me today,
He had a half a shuttle arn uber from the
Venetian Hotel.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Jack walked.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Actually, oh Jack, to be sure you walked from me
your week.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Apart, Yeah, to be sure to be on time and
that it would work because I've been told stories so again,
I don't know. I've been told stories that I might
get stuck on both the shuttle four a mile or whatever,
as it wasn't sure at least walking, but I was
sure motris as to when I would arrive.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
So this time around I did that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Okay, how old did you take a walk here? I
mean sety minutes thirty ear fast water, but took me
also quite a bit of time. Was ready to find
your booth? But yeah, yeah, I found.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Its longer to find a booth and the walk over
almost Yeah, we're over in the West Hall. So so
Jacques walk from the Venetian to the Convention Center to
the West Hall and then to find us and all
this all it's like trying to find what a marble
and a haystack or a needle in a haystack, right,
So we appreciate you, uh making that that journey over
(15:14):
and and as Jacques, as we kind of kind of
around up our discussion right here, I wanted to to
again just talk about, you know, the target audience, the
core users, the businesses out there that that you want
to to go after.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Not only here at CES but post c S two.
Once we are listening or viewing this interview right here,
if you can share that with them, how they can
even connect with BCH.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, so we are interested. Let's say our biggest market
U and remain that way very likely, because it's the
biggest market fund alteredication in the world is development, and
that's Angie's government agencies and so on. As I said,
we're interested, TOSC said in meeting private sector companies. So
(16:02):
companies and there we have three main use cases which
are dispersed teams as I mentioned, so during construction, catering,
all in gas, retail, training and so on. How do
you avoid telling people to move a hundred miles to
a place to train in a month and a half.
How can you train them immediately now without any kind
(16:22):
of set of issues with the biki box. Then there's
also cyber sensitive industrial sites. You know how in fact
industrial machines they are among the least protected against cyber attacks.
And so the caeeseos, the chief information security officers, they
always would like to airir gap factories at least for
training within the factories. With this, you can air gap
(16:45):
because you will not get onto the corporate network. And yeah,
and the final one is of course, when multinationals train
for instance, farmers, textile workers in that global supply chains,
if you think of it were in Switzerland, I'm happy
to have an espresso, very good coffee.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, I am.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
That's Swiss, and they have a million farms in their
supply chain and they need to tell them how to
make a better coffee bean as well as one and more.
They must tell them about human rights. It's part of
the package. It's from for instance, don't give your your
passport to your to your boss and so on. So
these are the three segments we're looking at within the
(17:22):
private sector. And to get in touch with us, you
can contact me. You can find your LinkedIn jack Berry,
or you can find k on LinkedIn, or you can
find us online and with BK dot c H dot
com BK dot c H which is the Swiss suffix.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Awesome, Jach, thank you so much for coming by the
show by coming over here to cees and sow and office.
A amazing piece of innovation and uh uh miss wishing
you a lot of success when it comes to this,
and UH definitely want to keep up on this conversation
with you with pleasure and you know, in the months
to come, just to see how how how things are going,
(18:00):
because I really do think the fact that you are
hitting a pain point that needs to be hit when
it comes to this type of challenge when it comes
to connectivity, and so.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
We thank you so much, thank you, thank you for
having me.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, and please take a shuttle back to you in
your park wall. I feel bad that you did a
walk over here, but thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So everyone. This is the end of our our second
day of our coverage here at CEES twenty twenty five.
I remember, we're going to release some more content, some
more uh interviews, some more things on screaming social media.
To make sure that you are keeping it locks here
(18:50):
to the tech Zone and remember, stay healthy, stay safe,
and I love you all the life take it in
this world of technology is ever change, rearranging. You need
someone to help you out.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I know someone to be alone.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You'll be with Paul.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I'm a day slaying in the teg Zone.
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