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January 9, 2025 • 18 mins
Join Paul Amadeus Lane live from CES 2025 as he dives into the world of high-performance connectivity and storage solutions! In this episode of The Tech Zone, Paul interviews Larry O'Connor, founder of OWC (Other World Computing), to discuss the company's latest innovations that are making waves at CES. They'll explore OWC's new Thunderbolt 5 Hub, its groundbreaking features, and how it's transforming workflows for professionals and creatives. Plus, Larry will showcase other exciting products and innovations from OWC that are pushing the boundaries of technology. Don't miss this insightful conversation with one of the leading innovators in the industry!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In this world of technology, things that ever changing, rearranging.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
You need someone to help you out. I need someone
that can be alone.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
You'll be looking fall. I'm the day Slane in the
Tech Zone.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome back to the Tech Zone here, CES twenty twenty five.
Can you believe it, folks, it has been an amazing ride.
Day three, only one day left. I hope you enjoyed
all of our coverage with all of our tech experts
and companies out there that are doing some amazing innovation.
And we appreciate you supporting the show and tuning in

(00:37):
and giving us your feedback as well. One of the
amazing things that I like about CES it is kind
of like a family reunion. You get a chance to
visit see some good tech friends that you've known for
many years. And my next guest is one of them,
So do me a huge favorite. Let's welcome the amazing,

(00:59):
the awesome Larry O'Connor, founder of O WC. Larry, what's
going on, my friend?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
How are you doing? Great? Doing great? Paul, So glad
to be here. And I've been at the bump intea
and well and here we're talking talking live today.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I know, and Larry, you are the one that is
responsible for me leveling up my game when it comes
to production quality things audio, video recording. And I appreciate
you for that because through your through your guidance, I
have definitely helped me out. And let's talk about your
CEES experience. You know, what was it like this year

(01:35):
being here CEES twenty twenty five, added number of events
going on, the showing off the great innovation of OWC.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, we're really happy. We got a couple of awards
at the show for our new Thunderball five products, one
of those being our third about five MBI Ultra. It's
it's been now twice recognized as the fastest portable drive
in the world, which is really exciting. It's currently one
of a kind in terms of what shipping and available,
and it's faster than anything else else, anything else that's

(02:03):
ever shipped prior that connects to the single cable, so
that's fun. And then our Thunderball five Hub, which is
a technically a dock with just it allows you to
segment and add more Thunderball five ports. Of these new
Thunderbal five quick Mac and PCs, and this is something
that's again these are practical, rock solid high performance solutions,
plug play and go and enable you to get more

(02:23):
out of your technology. And that's what we're about. And
it's so it's been a fun, fun week. I I'll
be honest, I'm glad it's about time to go home.
I mean too, you know it's it's you lose track
of the days, or even when it's only been a
couple of days. It's but it's it's been busy, it's
it's been exciting just talking again. You talk about family reunions.

(02:45):
All the people that we really want to see every day.
I mean, we could see them every day every week
and be fantastic, but it's certainly once once a year.
This week we get to see a lot of folks
that just don't have that that that every day opportunity.
It's it, it's fun and it's it's also very productive
now that that.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Is so true, Larry. And when you look at what
you've been able to do in the tech world in general,
because you know you were you were really like a
child prodigy when it comes to technology at a very
young age, and to see how you were able to
just transform a lot of things, especially when it comes
to the Thunderbowl docks to storage and all the great
innovation out there. Larry, how have you been able to

(03:22):
like stay up on the top of the trends. I
remember when you and I talked a little over a
decade ago when uh uh MacBooks pros didn't even have
enough inputs and you you built like a little uh
something to sit your MacBook on top of.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Remember that Devadavator doc. We had, our deck, we had
all you know, I tell you, God has been good.
I mean the gifts that were given or are absolutely
I mean it's I can't say I've done any of this.
I mean this is I've had the good fortune of
having you know whatever, capabilities, insights, and a great team
has come around me and this organization that makes it

(03:57):
all happen. And it's not just you know, the team
of Interbuse, it's also our customers. We were our first customers.
We built things to make sure that they were the
best for what we really wanted to see and experience,
as opposed to stuff that just kind of got things
by and you know, warn enough. And the feedback we
get from our customers, our customer base outside of our
own team, you know, continues to let me expands, that

(04:19):
business expands. That just understanding of what the solutions need
to be. It's not a matter of you know, somebody
asked for you can ask for the wrong thing. But
understanding what problem is trying to that it needs to
be solved is what inspires the solutions that we bring
to market. And then it is that's really what I needed.
I thought I wanted this, but that fixes my problem.
That really fixed, not just the symptom or what I thought.

(04:40):
That's the solution now.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
That makes sense. That makes sense, Larry. And when you
when you look at where we're at when it comes
to UH technology and trying to stay ahead of the
curve of what's going to be the needs of the
consumer and ones who are using these amazing products, tell
me how far in advance do you you have kind
of like the R and D of saying, okay, we

(05:03):
need to hearing these rumblings about you know, funderable five,
we're hearing all these rumblings about AI and all these
other things in the design process. What do you do
to make sure that you stay ahead of the curve.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
It's years. I mean, it's honestly, the interface. It it's
understanding the customers understanding the technology you know what's coming
you know, not tomorrow, but many tomorrow's from now, and
it's an evolution because there's for our organization, it's important
that we're able to support what our customers have today,
what they honestly have, you know, from yesterday, and seeing

(05:34):
the best transition and even the best carry for us
so they don't have to band in those workflows when
they get what's going to be the latest and greatest tomorrow. Now,
we want technology to work for people and not people
to be forced to adopt new technology. So building technology
that goes backwards and forwards, understanding what's coming out tomorrow
so that we can start to kind of move the well,
kind of shift the direction so that what's very frank,

(05:56):
I mean what we have an amazing a few years
ahead of us in terms of just what these computers
do so much today, so much more than what you know,
what the average but almost anybody, even in the creative space.
I mean, these then the power of you know, you
look at these Apple and flours, it's off the charts
now under stuff intails. I mean, these are these are

(06:18):
tools that are meant to serve us and we want
to make sure that what you have that you can
take advantage of everything that works great already, and we're
absolutely getting the kind of you know, getting the pump
prime for what you'll be able to do tomorrow, even
things like the Thunderbolt five DOC or the Thunderbout five hubways.
You say, I mean this is a product unless you
on the on with with forty gigabit Thunderball. So if

(06:39):
you look at you, if you're a creator and you're
looking at something between a forty gigabit or these new
Thunderbout five equipped solutions done about forty gigabit, you plugged
this play into the same port with a high speed
storage device, you're actually encroaching on that storage devices capability.
There's none a bandwidth for those two things to share.
Then about five you can have two high speed storage
devices and of display coming through that even potentially two

(07:00):
displaces coming through that same port, and there's bandwidth for everything.
You go from you know, a very small carve out
for video to a very large cars out carve out
for video and even more bandwidth for for data more
than twice a bit the bandwidth for data in fact,
which means today you've got to put a lot of
thought into your how you cable things and how you're
aligning things to make sure you maximize the performance of

(07:22):
everything right now. And this will change in a few
years when we're actually getting and there's enough demand on
the media side where you really need that man with
But today, especially with something like that that that doc,
you can just plug things in. It's gonna work, and
everything's gonna work at full speed. It's nuts. So that's
you know, those these are projects that started, you know,
literally years ago, and we're certainly ready for what's coming

(07:45):
down in years from now. And AI is it's scary
to a lot of folks, but it's something that honestly,
and it's scary because of you know, the work that
it takes away, but it frees you up to do
so much more. It's an opportunity to level up and
take your game further. And that's really it's another tool.
I mean, every generation is AI is not really new.

(08:07):
He's been around for a long long time. And finally,
while it's on all of these scripted things, this is
all AI. Now it's gotten much more advanced. It does
a lot more, but the technolog I mean, this stuff
has been It's been there for a very long time.
The auto renders, the auto shapey, all these things. This
is just at the very new accelerated level. But look
at how much time that's going to free up, just

(08:28):
even faster drives. You know, if you're an jest at
your dat or somebody that's you know, data wrangling, my gosh,
what am I going to do now that I can
do this in thirty minutes what used to take six hours?
A lot more, there's a lot more creative. It's more
that's actually engaging, you know, our creative talents, you know,
what we're given, as opposed to you know, setting it

(08:49):
up and using those kills and then waiting.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, that makes sense, Larry. And then what's been a
feedback here from from the ones that you've been able
to talk to, you know, to show off some of
this amazing innovation. What's been the feedback.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Positive all around? I mean, it's it's kind of nice
that the big AI hype is kind of coming into
more of a little a little more maturity where people
have a better understanding of where the applications are. Then
you know, it's not going to be how nine thousand,
you know, tomorrow taking over the world that those sorts
of things. So it's it's been a lot more positive
because it's people are seeing that the feed the positive

(09:25):
the practical applications in understanding as they start to use
these tools and put them into their workflows, and whether
it's an individual home or somebody doing a major production
work and going, hey, this lets me level my stuff up.
Now I agree with they say a colleague out there
that is concerned that you know, this is also going
to open the door for a flood of just content

(09:48):
from you know, for people who have never pretentially you know,
picked up a camera for the first time, but from
a quality point of view, and there's I think there's
a demand for quality out there. You know, just go
on and you know, throw up a couple AI generated
whatever is the qualities when they're going to go up
for the creators that really actually have that talent and
then put put effort into the learning. You know, this

(10:11):
is like anything else. You know, at first you may
have failed, but you try to try again, you learn,
and you evolve and you level up. And I don't
think there's going to be We're just going to see
a lot more the quality the content, the quantity and
quality because you say, let me rephrase that the quantity
of quality content should go up because we've got great
creators out there, They're going to be able to do more,

(10:32):
and there's clearly an insatiable demand for content in general.
That is so true.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
And what has been kind of the coolest thing that
you've seen so far at CES? I wasn't sure if
you had a chance to traverse the flow becas I
know you've been busy in meetings and other other things.
What are some of the cool things that you've seen?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
You know, I honestly haven't had a chance to see
very much this year, and I so some degree I'm
a little numb. I think that's something to see us
think because every year you see a lot of cool
stuff that you never see again. Yeah, but there is
a product. I think that the name of the company
is Intake. It was actually really interesting. Had nothing. It's
not a computer technologies if our gadget. It's actually something

(11:09):
that helps people breathe better, you know. So they have
a patented device that opens up your airflow and I
thought was really interesting and it's a practical, positive application
for folks. I thought that was really neat and innovative. Maybe.
I mean I remember way back the things you put
on your nose that you know, the clipped on that
you know, suppose you did something. This actually uses a
magnetic tech and kind of pulls things up. Said all right,

(11:31):
that's cool. That's that was very different. I didn't expect
to see that here. And it's like huh. And just
all the reaction to people who were getting demos to
this thing that they were you know, doing samples and
setting them up. It was like, this is people seem
to like this. This is good stuff. I like practical
things things, it's solve a solution. And you know, one
guy who came by her Boothy was one of the
press guys who had one of these things on him.
He said, I've had surgery, I have problems like I

(11:53):
can't breathe through my nose. This is this is eureka
for me. I said, okay. Things that make people's lives
better always or honestly, I think a winner. And there's
a lot of there's so many things here that the
technology looks straight, but it's an effort to use or
the things that actually frat you know, blood play, work
at ask for whatever, it might be and then and

(12:14):
save your time and prove your life. That's those always
excite me, even even simple things.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yep, all about tech for good now. And and one
thing that I love about AI and all the technology
and what to look forward to, Larry, is the fact
that it can give us our time back, you know,
to spend, spend family, get some rest, do some hobbies,
you know, really enjoy life. And to me, I think

(12:43):
AI is going to help us get back to kind
of the way how things used to be, where mom
and dad spend a lot of time together with the
kids and not that you know, dad is working in
these exuber an hour's mom is to the kids when
I was basic, call them the last key kids because
they had a key laps to them to let themselves
into the house.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
But but now we're starting to see how how things
are giving us some of our time back so that
we can get back to humanity and and smell the
roses one hundred.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Life is short, I mean, we have a limited time
to do, you know what we do and in this
part of part of existence so to speak, and getting
time back you just can't replace. That's the one thing
that it's just you can't make more of it, absolutely, Larry.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I know you got to catch a plane to get
out here, but anything else you like to share with
us before we let you.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Go, you know, I guess the only other thing I
love talking about because it's such a big issue out
there are cables and cables, you know, and to see
the sea cables are the number one text there's only
the number they had been the number one TEX support
issue for our company. I think there are for a
lot of organizations out there because they all look the same.
A lot of them aren't labeled. You know. You pull

(13:52):
a you pull a really nice cable out of your
bag and think, well, this is you know, this has
got to be this is my best quality of cable
and you plug it in it and it doesn't work
with your device and you find out, well, that's just
a charging cable. But it shows UF kind of well
that's because PD requires USB two. So any CDC cable,
almost any CDC there's ones that are doubt which are
completely out of spect to pass some data and it

(14:13):
becomes really difficult because these are really slow. It might
cause some ports not to work, right, I mean, but
they kind of show up actually might say not work right.
They don't. There's not enough bandwidth for in the work right.
Long story short, and we got into a thunderball cables.
You a bit agoing the nicely Thunderbolt CDC cable, especially
OBC C two C cables with Thunderbolt, I love it.

(14:35):
You never have to worry about that cable working, whether
you're charging for all front of purposes. You're charging a razor, or,
you're charging your computer, you're charging an iPad and Android,
you're connecting a DOC, you're connecting the highest performance storage device.
With Thunderbolt, it's the same cable C two see Universe
one hundred percent one gave out of your bag, works

(14:57):
with everything. And it's on top of that. You know it.
We have their label. You see the speed, you see
the wattage. You know it's up to two forty one
power delivery. You don't have to worry about it being
the cable, let alone a cable that will pass more
power than it should. It is. Actually this is not
even you know, trying to scare abell. I mean some
of these cables out they're literally dangerous. I mean we

(15:18):
put a lot. I mean USB used to just be
a very low voltage, low power scenario. Today vaultage is
higher and you're tarting up with to twohund and forty wats.
I mean these things. That's a lot of juice. But
they have a single cable that works with everything. I
mean that's we got into the Thunderbolt and we that
was a big solve. People understand that. A lot of
folks now they just they get these Thunderbolt, three, thunder Up,

(15:38):
four and five cables. One cable. Don't have to worry
about it. Never have to be in a situation where
you're wasting time, losing time, maybe losing you know, maybe
getting gray hairs or getting the losing hair because you're
on a trip and off and it's not working and
you didn't that fancy cable is a fancy cable, but
it's not for that and the other problem that that

(15:59):
led to. Okay, customer, well that's awesome. We love these
cables and that they do quite honestly, but we need
longer cables. So at the show, we brought out our
first optical of forty GIGABCK cables now maybe about three
meters four and a half meter, which honestly, we're a
surprise hit at the show. We brought them. I mean,
this is I mean some nice to boring stuff, the
simple stuff, but having a reliable cable and that's we

(16:21):
take this in for granted, the first docks we've done,
all the docks that we do, we don't I mean,
we don't build these things in terms of just put
a buch of ports on and go. We build them
the way we want them built, the way we know
they need to be used, and it work, and that
makes them boring, but it's not boring when it comes
to you know, the experiences you have with some other
solutions or products, cables whatever. So we brought a longer

(16:43):
cables up to fifteen feet and that's that was another
big hit the show, in addition to the all the
new Thunderbouk five stuff. So it's a simple things. There's
lots of I mean, there's so much crazy stuff here
and lots of exciting stuff. Honestly, there's a lot of
really cool gear here. But at the very core, you know,
there's weak links, and you know, we we like to
make sure, like especially the gables, never a week link

(17:04):
when you know they come from ot w C.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I love it and Larry and his team make some
amazing products. I use them myself and Larry, thank you
so much for coming in uh and talking with us
on the tech Zone. I know you have to run
and catch that plan. Appreciate you coming by and spend
us some time with us. Now, how can ones find
out more information about old w C and get a
hold of some of these amazing products.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Sure they can check us out at OWC dot com
or go to max sales dot com. You can find
us a lot of major retailers as well as Amazon
and such. But OBG dot com. I want to say
that the great choice of going You use mac MPC
and you gotta see these Max here, and that's great.
You know, you know I was happy to give you
some advice. You're using the right gear. But you put

(17:49):
this up together. I mean, you know your your audio video.
I mean you just you know the right tools, just
make it a lot better.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Sure to us, Sure to us. And I'm telling you
it is great to see you, Larry. Looking forward to
catching up again with you, Sue and my friend and
h stay healthy, stay safe then.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Thank god bless I have a great rest of the show.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Awesome. That was my great friend Larry O'Connor. He is
the amazing founder of Old WC. Make sure you check
them out. Some great products and a lot of the
products AARTH are making this broadcast up be live today
and INDE and US. You're being at yes, so uh
stay healthy, stay safe. This is day three. We'll have

(18:28):
some more coverage on day four. So go nowhere. We'll
be right back.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
In this world of technology, things that ever changing, rearranging.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
You need someone to.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Help you out.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I need someone to be alone.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
You'll be Paul. I'm a day Slane in the Tech Zone.
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