April 3, 2025 • 35 mins
Never Tell the Crew that this Episode won't be on the Broadcast Airwaves, They decided to talk freely. This episode was a test for stricly the web and yes, there is some salty language in this episode. Please refrain is that offends you however we have some good discussions in this shortened PODcast. We cover AI creation with Justin telling us about Grok, while Matt takes a look at Perplexity. Also covered is Adobe and Perpetual Licensing after Andy runs into an Adobe Issue. Also, Justin and the family test out a Studio Ghibli AI Creation.
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-- Andy
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following program is produced by the tech Talk Radio Network.
Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
I'm Matt Jones, and I'm justin Lemme and good to
have you here. We were hoping Sean would be him,
but he's got an uncontrollable child right now, which that
was his quote. That was his quote. He said it
(00:21):
not us, right.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Did you know that you can make chloroform at home
with two ingredients?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Did you know that you can get arrested for that
only if you get caught? You probably shouldn't even mention it,
all right? This is kind of weird too, because Matt,
this is why you don't have children.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Man, Yeah, that's why I got dogs.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Exactly we sell you, is that a Corgi that you have?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
One of my three is a corgy?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He is? He?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
There are two types of Corky's. There are Pembroke Corgi's
which have the little bunny butts with no tails, and
then there are Cardigans, which is trip Cardigan. Corgi's have
a long foxtail and they're at actually a working herding breed,
so they are used mainly in the UK for like
a herding dog.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
How they those little legs. I was gonna say, how
keep up with?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Here's the thing. Cardigans stand a little bit taller than Pembrook's.
They're a little thinner in the torso. And when Trip
wants to move, that little dude can book it. Really,
he easily keeps up with all the other dogs at
the dog park. And the best part is this was
why the corkis were bred to be herding dogs. When
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like a sheep, a goat a cow. When they get
mad of the dog nipping at their heels and they
go to kick, they kick and the corky looks up
about two feet and it's like a missed.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
All right, So the show's a little different this week.
This is not a broadcast show. This show is not
being aired on the radio. It's being just we We
were gonna do just kind of a no show this
week because of that big event that's going on and SA.
But then we said, no, let's get together, let's pop
it onto the web, let's have some fun. This is
not going on the radio. No, not on the radio.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Fine, I don't have to say flying monkey farks.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Dang, you have been you guys have been waiting to
say that haven't yet. We have been asking for an
unedited show for about let me check my notes, ten years.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
We have a show and the title of it was
We're gonna get sued because we talked about uploading it
to YouTube. About edited.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, we have see. Now here's what you do, Andy,
You throw a mature content on speaker and you just
run with this because I guarantee you this is gonna
be the best show we have ever done. Well, let's
let's hope we.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Are gonna ride the wheels off this bitch. This is
gonna be fun, all.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Right, So let's let's before the show, we were doing
kind of a pre show. We were talking about AI,
and let's face it, it's one of the big things
everybody's talking about AI. You know. I just got to
notice the other day that Alexa Plus is now available.
If I want to have more of an AI experience
with the Alexa, I'll be honest with you, I use
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the Google Gemini if I'm if I really want AI
and I want to find out something, I'll use that.
But there's so many other options that people are suddenly going, wait,
it'll do that for me? Yeah, it'll it'll do it.
It's do so much. I mean, I've been experimenting with
a bunch of these different the same as Matt. But
you know, as funny as before I get into that
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part of it, it was I watched a YouTube video
last night about Apple, you know, and I was talking
about Apple's intelligence, and it was talking about how, you know,
the strategy that Apple has and this is this was,
you know, my big problem with Apple over the years.
I remember I always kept mentioning how Apple would always
just steal things from other companies, you know, like, oh, yeah,
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we've had that for five years. All of a sudden
you get this and it's kind of the same idea,
what's happening with Apple intelligence. But yet this time it's
not really working out for them, because you know, Siri
is still dumber than two bags of rocks.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
They didn't even make Siri, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Really, they first thought they stole it. Yes, Siri was.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Originally an app that you could download from the App Store.
I remember downloading it when I had an iPhone, and
then all of a sudden one day they're like, hey,
we're shutting this down because Apple bought us, and it's
gonna be packaged and the next release of iOS and
it was a piece of shit, God compared to the
app that I had used before. Sorry to continue.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It still sucks. But but the thing is is, you know,
Apple is doing their their their Apple isms, and they're
letting other people develop these ais and then they're just
gonna take that and then try to make it their own.
But this time, with AI moving so quickly and so
many different companies jumping on board, Apple is is starting
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to feel the heat and they're they're being left in
the dust, you know. And this might be the fire
straw with Apple because they haven't innovated anything in the
past decade. And then with this AI thing. Now I'm
getting off on a tangent. So going back to the AI,
You're right, there are so many options, like what do
you needed? What do you needed to do? Well? I
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use it for coding at work. I use it for
writing bedtime stories for my kid. It's amazing. All of
them are amazing. But there's good parts about some and
there's bad thoughts about others, you know, right, right, yeah, Well,
companies have got to make the money when it comes
to you know, all this development that's going in One
of the big names that everybody's heard is of course
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you know chat, GPT, Open Ai, and you know people
people continue to use it. I use it. I'm very
happy with what it can do for me. But you
pay for it. Uh No, I don't do if you
If you pay for it, you just a quick little caveat.
If you pay for an AI model, you are going
to get access to better features, just like you would
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with any other thing that you pay for. So if
you try something for free and you're like, I don't
know if this is going to do what I wanted
to do, try the paid model for a month, what happens.
Now you've been experimenting with Grock, which is part of
x right, that's x A. I actually x AI now
because x AI owns x and x AI. But that's
(06:20):
a side note. But yes, it is uh from x
which is from Ipso Facto through Elon Musk's companies. But
x AI's grock model. I've used them all. I mean,
I guess I was we're talking pre show. I've used
chatty BT, I've used uh A Gemini, I've used deep
(06:40):
what was that deep Seek? Yeah, I've used mid Journey
for image. I've used I've used Grock, I've used I did.
I used it basically every one of them except for
the one that Matt mentioned, Pembroke Perplexity. Why do I
say Pembroke, I don't know. Oh that's why. Yeah, Okay,
I got confused.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Anyway, I'm gonna make mine and it's gonna be corky AI.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
There. There you go. But honestly, i've personally, in my
particular situation what I use AI for. I found grock
to be the most accurate, the best, the most thorough,
whereas chat GPT just spits out bullshit. Right, I just don't.
I don't. I just don't get it half the time.
But it's worked for me because maybe I'm just using
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the basic features of it, thus not paying for it.
Well true, So for me.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
At work, I'm using perplexity AI a lot because it's
provided to us, and it's one of the ones where
you know, through our security prostors and stuff that were
allowed to use. And I like Perplexity because it gives
me access to the R one model, to the Chat
GPT models, to grock models. R one is a deep
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deep seek.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So I have access to a lot of the different
aim models that are out there through perplexity, and I
can do the deep research. I can do thinking mode
where it you know, questions itself and really gets to it.
But like I for me personally, I've been paying for
chat GPT, but I am seeing its limitations. And you
know you're talking about how coding is much better through grock.
We've discussed on previous shows. You know, my the home
(08:20):
lab that I'm trying to build, and I have seen
chat GPT's limitations with that, and I did it with
Ford Dotzho. I tried four dot five, I tried oh
three many oh three Mini high and there were times
where I'd be like, hey, we're not using this built
in solution for DNS. We're using this solution for DNS,
And then three queries later, it's it's trying to do
(08:41):
the old one. And I have Actually I am one
of the people that like was always doing please and
thank you when I was using it.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, I wiped out all that goodwill in a night. Really,
I'd been fighting with this thing for twelve hours and
it went back and changed the AI and I'm actually
typing in there.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I'm like, we have covered this seventeen times. Stop trying
to use the old damn DNS. This is what we're using.
And it's just like, okay, okay, okay, got it. Hey,
just because I'm an AI, words hurt now, I'm like,
I'm gonna make the words hurt if you get this
damn DNS query right.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And then it's like here's your DNS and it's the
wrong one again, And it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Was two queries later. It's like we're going back to
using resolved yet and I'm like, that's not what we mother.
It's two in the morning. I am swearing worse than
a sailor. I should probably hang this up. You should
probably walk away for the day. I'm good, I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You. I urge you, Matt to try one month of
rock Premium and tell me what your thoughts are when
it comes to Cody pricing on it is not that bad, right,
eight bucks a month, that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That's less than I'm paying for chat GPT. And my personal,
my personal favorite thing with the ail is like Sam,
the head of open ai, is like complaining. He's like, well,
Deep Seek went in and stole all the data to
train their model, and this shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Allowed to do that as the.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
We did it, but they're China, so they shouldn't be
able to shut the f up, sit down and shut
up your as your ass is the reason that my
favorite Reddit app is gone and I have to use
their in house app because Reddit was like, oh my god,
who is pulling like six terabytes of data a day?
(10:39):
Oh my god? Who could it possibly be? I think
it might have been Open Ai and they're like, well,
now we gotta we gotta get our get our bag
if you're doing that. So every AI call is now
gonna be like five hundred bucks. And Reddit is fun,
which was the best Android Reddit app is like there
are six dudes and back room coding this. Do you
(11:02):
think we have that money?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, that's that's exactly why they did it. And and
and Reddit is gonna you know, they're gonna figure it out.
They they f they aft around, They're gonna find out.
But I I gotta say to turn a quick little
page on that. I gotta say. There's one cool thing.
Mesa has finally been dabbling in AI and she there's
(11:24):
a new there's a new trend going on right now
with chatch ebt, especially with Studio Ghibli. Now do you
guys know Matt, I know you know Studey Gibli is Andy. Yeah,
that's it's like anime, right, it's it's the most famous
Japanese anime of company of all time. They've made my neighbor.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Toturo spirited away. It's japan Disney.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's Japan Disney. Yes, so Mesa took a photo and Andy,
you have permission sell the photos up on the website,
put us up on the website. But we took a
photo of us.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
It was. It was last year at Bruce Beers, which
is our neighborhood brewery. There was a during a summer
concert series, and she took a quick, little, you know,
candid photo of the three of us and put it
into CHATTYBT and it came out amazing. I love it,
and I especially love Eric's face. I just love how
he's looking like, what the hell do you want? Like?
(12:21):
I just I love I love it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's so good at what it did, right exactly, I
have never seen Eric have more of a face of
get that damn camera out of my face.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, well that's kind of what he was feeling at
that moment. But but but when it turned it into
the studio Gibbli. It just made it so much better.
It looks like it just it just it really looks cool.
And it even got the background that with the with
the brick wall and the and the the stained the
water stains on the brick wall and the wooden fence.
I mean, you gotta put this photo on on the website.
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But here's the thing. So so Mysa did it right. Yeah,
she just took a picture and uploaded a chattypet and
said make this studio Ghibli. Wow, that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Now from a counter like, it is amazing. It is,
but it does start to raise questions of like when
when is some of this going too far? Because it
does a fantastic job doing Ghibli's exact art style. But
I mean, this is a man.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
We had Walt Disney who eventually was just like I'm
done him out. Yeah Ghibli Like every time he's like,
I'm going to retire. And then they're like, all right, cool,
right off into the sunset, You've done enough. And then
three weeks later he basically boots the door to the
studio back open. It's like, I have another idea that
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we need to do before I can retire. But every
single frame of every almost every Studio Ghibli movie is
drawn by hand. I saw a really cool picture of this,
like awesome, and that's why, like the food in Studio
Ghibli movies always looks so amazing. There is a picture
of like this awesome bowl of fried rice, and then
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the picture before it of like every single grain and
everything is coded that they have to go in by hand.
I do truly think that, like, while this is amazing,
it's also the utter antithesis of his dream and what
he believes. And it's one of those from like this
is gonna be a great trend right up until the
(14:28):
lawyers are.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Like, well okay, okay, well real quick, real quick. This
I look at it a little bit differently. I do
agree with you that I believe that Studio Ghibli is
the last of its kind. I don't believe we'll ever
see another animation studio that does things by hand. I
don't think we'll ever see a style so unique and
(14:51):
so personal as Studio Gibili, unless it's a one person project.
Maybe well, I mean yeah, but they're never going to
reach that kind of level of fame with that kind
of thing. One person. But on the contrary, in a way,
I kind of feel like this is paying homage to
Studio Ghibli because they are not doing anything copyright. They
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are not copyrighting any of his work because these are
all unique characters. They are doing it in the style.
And what is the best.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Form imitation is the best form of flattery now and
and two to Andy's point in the Justin's point of
a dying art two thousand and seven, Disney had a
live action slash animated movie called Enchanted. Oh yeah, an
a start in it. Yeah, I love that movie and
(15:41):
that movie is great.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Wait wait, wait, you give me a hard time for
like in Hallmark. Don't start other things?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No, no, don't start Disney.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Hallmark and you watching Hallmark and TLC. This is why
I drink.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's one so angry. But here's the thing. So in
that movie, it flips between live action and like classical
Disney animation. The movie almost did not get made because
they could not find artists who were still trained in
that style, in that style of hand drawn animation. They
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were like, we need to tap in.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
They were like, we need to I'm sorry, go ahead,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
They were like we need to tap in for our
dream of this to old school Disney. We want the
animation to look old school Disney if they were a
victim of their own success. There was no one doing
old school Disney animation like that anymore. All almost all
the students at that point were three D or computer generated.
Because you can do computer generated. The looks hand drawn,
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but they wanted that authentic feel to it, and the
movie almost did not get made because of it. So
you're right, it is a very dying art.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
What was the one from who framed Roger Rabbit? Was
that one of the brothers? So good that Disney? Yeah?
Oh that was not Disney. It was Disney. No, I
think Warner Brothers did. How did they have a right
at Disney? Called is like the Google food Master? No,
but that's the same thing. It was mixture of live action.
I think that was the very first one they ever did,
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was it?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It was? It was the very first with live action
and animation as well.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And what is that Mary Poppins, Mary Poppins, Dick Van
Dyke Dance with the Penguins.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It was just the penguins. We're talking about the whole
damn movie.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Okay, but.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I can see what he's said. I can see what
he's saying, and I will give that to him. It's
not the very first time I will retract that statement.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The whole length movie full length.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Also, can we all agree Dick van Dyke has the
worst damn English accent known to mankind.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I wouldn't not know what to say about. Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It was made. The movie was made by Disney's Touchstone Pictures.
Uh and and Warner Brothers would only allow you some
of their biggest cartoon stars, Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck
if they got as much screen time as Mickey Mouse
and Donald Duck. That reason, they were always in pairs,
right and.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Then Tweety was in it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Uh, Daffy and Donald in the parachute scene with Bugs
and sorry piano battle between Daffy and Donald the parachute
scene with Bugs and Mickey. This was continued with Porky
Pig and Tinker Belt at the movie's ending.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Great movie that was was front. Roger Rabbit was great?
Did they do a sequel? Was there a hoof framed
Roger Rabbit two?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I don't think I don't think so, but I but
I can tell you that that movie that movie Jessica
Rabbit definitely spawned a love of redheads for an entire generation.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, but now you're married to one.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I'm speaking from experience.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
There is there a little bit of a connection there, Matt,
little connection. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Listen, I've always had a thing for redheads, and anyone
who knows me will tell you that that's true.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
And then of course you had the great late Bob Hoskins,
who was awesome in that. That was that was awesome,
such a great.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Movie, such a good movie, Bob. My favorite Bob Hoskins
has still got to be Smee in Hook.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Oh yeah, he plays he plays the deckhanded Hook.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah right, Yeah, he's he's Captain Hook's right hand man, Schmie.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
There's another one called Shattered with Bearringer and him, and
it's it's a great movie. He plays a detective, you know,
like the kind of detective that goes off on his own,
not not a cop, private detective. He's really good in it.
So if you ever can't see that one, just just
going back to our original topic. I don't even know
how we got into this, you know, with this whole thing,
(19:47):
but we're talking about AI. I just asked Grok was
there a sequel to proof Frame Roger Rabbit. It took
it three seconds and it spat out seven paragraphs of
information basically saying nope, wow, but it talks about it
in depth that I'm not going to go into that, right.
That would have been cool. That would be uh, that
would have been pretty cool to see. All right, speaking
(20:09):
of seeing stuff, I think we all have Plex, don't we.
I mean, yeah, well, Plex, Plex is going to raise
its price, Uh not for me a lifetime pass, lifetime baby.
I kind of wonder about that because so the annual
Plex pass has been thirty nine dollars for ten years,
and Plex put out a statement saying they've not increased
(20:32):
their price in ten years, so they have to increase
it based on the next subscription price from thirty nine
dollars to sixty nine dollars. They don't provide crap, dude,
Well they and then a bunch of press releases came
out saying, oh, Plex is doing this now and doing
that now and doing this now. So I don't know
what they're changing up but now not changing shit? Dude, No,
(20:53):
they don't. They don't provide anything. They're not worth it.
I mean, yeah, I have the Lifetime Pass, and I'm
happy with that because I'll never have to pay them
another dollar. Never even thought I wish I never had to.
Was the Lifetime passed one hundred and ninety nine? It
was one and nineteen? I think, wasn't it, dude?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
When I when I bought the Lifetime pass, it was
sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, see, I bought it for like one hundred and
nineteen or maybe one hundred ninetynine, I don't remember exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Now here's the thing for for you know, PLEX was
kind of like one of the big innovators, you know,
Home Home Done hosted Netflix. I used it. I used
it for years. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
They've been on the show before.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, there's there's alternatives out there, man, And the big
two right now are MB and Jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Now do they allow you to set up your own
media server.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
With yep, that's that's what they both do. And I
think jelly sorry not jellyfish, jelly Finn. Jelly Finn.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Jellyfish.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Jelly jelly Finn is actually a fork of MB.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
So what's the fork? What for.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
A fork is basically, so you've you've got the development
pipeline going work and then they just split off from
the project and did their own thing. They forked off
the project. So when you think of it, the term
came from like a fork in the road, all.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Right, Yeah, all right, So MB was a fork OFPLEX
and then and then and then Jellyfinn was a fork
of MB. Yep have to try that? And do they
charge a lot for that for their service?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I think jellyfinn is open source. If memory serves and MB,
you have to pay.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
But now if you want to do like the TV
guide and stuff with those, I remember having to pay
for the TV guide within Jellyfinn, which is also contracted
through a third party, so there is extra costs. But
you're right, Matt. If you want to just set up
a basic server, I think it's free. All right. I
got to tell you about a problem I've been having
with Adobe. Adobe, and and let's always have a problem
(22:51):
with Adobe, bro, Well.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Everyone's got a problem with Adobe. Adobe's got a problem
with Adobe.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I've been I have been a Adobe customer since before
when it was allus. I had the ice found my
disc the other day for all this photostyler and I
was looking for discs. That's why. But either way, here's
the deal. So people are going to be forced to
update their computers if they want to keep using them online.
And you know, when Windows changes from ten to eleven,
(23:17):
and I decided build a new system for the for
the studio, right, might as well do that. So I
build a new computer, get it all ready to go.
It's pretty fast, and it'll be taken over the Windows
ten system. And I go ahead and I go to
my Adobe account and I see my Master Collection five
(23:38):
point five CS five Master five point five most powerful
collection ever that they put out. It had dream Weaver,
Premiere Pro and after effects, Adobe Audition, which of course
we use quite a bit. And it says download. So
I go ahead and I download it. I create the
media for it, and I install it. I install it,
(24:00):
fire it up, looks good, walk away, come back, and
there is a nag screen that I need it that
it cannot be activated due to the fact that it's
been activated on other devices. So I'm like, what I
tried again the whole bit. So I reached out to
Adobe Tech support. I got Bangalore, India, talk to night
(24:21):
gentleman who told me. He said, he says, oh, yes,
you have to deactivate it. From other devices so it
can be activated. And I said, oh, okay, it's still
showing it activated on the other computer. So I go
ahead and I deactivate it. I go back to reactivate.
Won't let me activate it. So I said, well, maybe
(24:44):
it's on I had it on my Asus laptop. Let
me get it off my other laptop. I really don't
use it on the laptop too much. So I deactivated there.
Still won't let me do it. I go to I. Finally,
you know, I'm at a perplex. I reach out to
Adobe and I said, you know, I got this version
of CS five point five. It's perpetual license. Now, let
(25:06):
me ask you, guys, what does perpetual license mean? Same
as I mentioned with Plex right lifetime lifetime, right, I
got a perpetual license. I've deactivated on two systems. I
only have it installed on one system now, right, And
the guy says, oh, yeah, okay, we'll get good. You deactivated,
but unfortunately the servers for that have been retired, so
(25:29):
you cannot reactivate. Oh my god. Oh that's when you
dig out the terms of service and you sue those assholes.
I'm wondering how many. And I reached out to my
pr person because I have a license for the full suite,
the newest one that expires in May. They were kind
(25:51):
enough to let me take a look at it, but
that goes away in May. But and I reached out
and say, what are you going to do when when
people who have perpetual licenses for products suddenly can't use
them anymore because they wanted for a lawsuit. That's what
you're gonna do. I'm wondering now. And I don't know
if using PC mover well on the one system is
gonna let me move it over. I think I'm screwed.
(26:13):
So luckily I reached out to Matt and I said,
all right, what's a good replacement for an audio program
so I can record the show? And he said Reaper?
And I looked at Reaper. Reaper looks good. It's a
little different layout, but it means all my multi track
because I edit multi track, all my multi tracks are
gone because those are done in Adobie. So is Reaper
(26:35):
better than like Audacity?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yes, by long, long, long and far.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I'm gonna start using Reaper then.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Ye, Reaper is I've got a buddy who is actually
his side Hustle is uh, He's a voice actor for audiobooks.
He and I were theater majors together and he is
the one who turned me on to Reaper. He uses
that for every audiobook he records. And I am in
(27:03):
the process of trying to actually do my own little podcast. Uh,
and I'm using listen Listen man, I cheated on you
two weeks ago. I was on a different podcast. It
hasn't been released yet. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It is real quick is Reaper is Reaper? This whole
license thing is this? Is this a nagwaar or is
it really open? And they just like, hey, if you
want to see it, if you like it, and you
get what sixty days, then it's six days, Yeah, sixty
days to try it out. And if you like it,
they'd love you to buy it or not sharewear. But yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, it's try it and and for people listening, it's
reaper dot fm is the website. I'm down on this
right now, but it I mean, I'm I'm working on
my own little podcast and I I've been using Reaper
for that and it's great. It works really well. You know,
there's a touch of a learning curve if you're moving
over to it, or if you've never done anything like
(27:59):
that before. But if if you're not used to it,
there's tons of YouTube videos, there's tons of support docs,
there's communities behind it. And honestly, like with some of
this stuff Adobe has done recently and this is this
one was a new one to me of like, oh
we we sunset the activation servers, so get wrecked and
have a great day. Yeah, you can't ta stuff on
(28:21):
top of the other stuff that they're doing. Like if
you do like Adobe Cloud and you're like, I mean,
like because I had it for a little bit when
I was on Twitch and I was putting together some
of my branding. At one point I was like, all right,
I'm not using this anymore. Lee isn't using this for
her stuff. I'm gonna go ahead and cancel. They're like, oh, sure,
you can go ahead and cancel. You just have to
(28:41):
pay out the lifetime of the agreement for a cancelation fee.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Oh that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
So you're charging me, like now four hundred dollars to
cancel Adobe is Adobe is a the poster child, in
my opinion, of something that you see in tech where
a solution for photo editing, multi track audio, whatever it
may be, where the solution becomes the standard. And then
(29:09):
as they're the standard, they start getting too big for
their bridges, and all these other ones like kind of
start popping up like hey, we could be the new solution,
just letting you know. And they get too big for
their bridges, they start doing dumb pr shit. They start
going to where it's like I want more money and
they're gonna blow themselves out of business. They really, in
my opinion, really are. I would not be surprised if
(29:32):
in ten ten years, Adobe is a footnote of what
not to do well.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
They're just capitalism. They're jumping onto the AI bandwagon. I
mean they're trying really hard with that with processing AI
and stuff. And then the photographers were upset because it
turned out that they didn't own their own works anymore.
That was driving a lot of people crazy. I could
buy the suite if I wanted to seven dollars a
(30:00):
year to be able to use that, And I'm thinking
there are alternatives. Yeah, there are alternatives out there. Reaper
look good, Audacity I've used before. It's just a matter.
I think it's just a matter for anybody who goes
through this like like I'm going through now. You just
got to get used to it. It's just how you
arm a track, dude. Oh there is the other one.
(30:23):
The for video. I found a program called Caden Live
and that's k d E and l I ve E
because we do a lot of video too, and I
do a lot of multi track video as well. So
uh again, that's one I'm looking at right now. I asked.
I reached out to ADOBEPR. I said, what are you
going to do? Can you reactivate the servers for people
to install and upgrade to Windows eleven for anything that's
(30:46):
above say Adobe Creative Sweet four and that would include
you know, some of the other programs. And they said
they would get back to me, and that's it. Probably
not going to hear from them again. So unfortunately, people
who have bought the Adobe products are and I don't
know if there's gonna be a class action lawsuit. There's
(31:06):
been other lawsuits that have been talked about. Will there
be one. We're gonna have to wait and find out.
But that's crazy. I've got one more thing that I
want to mention here. All right, we did something this
weekend that that Eric and I should say, I took
him to the local hobby store up here in Westminster,
(31:28):
just Hobby Lobby of Denver, hobby Town that's bigger than
the lobby. Yeah, yeah, hobby Yeah, hobby Town. And he
got to witness battle bots. Battle bots. Oh my god,
are you kidding me? Real battle bots? Yeah, real battle
bot but at a much smaller scale. Yeah, they're like
(31:49):
miniature battle bots. So I didn't know about this, but
there's a dude that comes to he's a friend of mine,
comes to trivia every week, and he actually participates in
the battle bots and he builds his own BattleBots. And
we're talking about probably the size of a CD or
maybe a record. I guess like a vinyl record if
(32:10):
you really want to get big, but mostly the size
of a CD. These mini BattleBots. They're done from a company.
The company that's local here is called bot Rumble and
it's bot rumble dot com. It's a very super basic website.
I really honestly don't recommend going to see much of it.
But they're more on social media. You can go to Facebook, Instagram, whatever,
(32:32):
but they set up this a little arena and it
looks just like the actual TV studio but it's about
one hundredth of the size. That's awesome. And there are
people of all ages that will come to battle and
they print and they make their own robots. So I
saw a bunch of robots being made. And these are
(32:54):
all things that are from a three D printer that
have you can find them on thingaverse and you can
print out the shell and the thing averse file also
includes talks about like what different motors and servos and
other parts you might need to fit this particular bot.
And the guide on the bots battles are do you
(33:16):
have control bots and then you have combat bots? And
the control bots are just trying to pin each other
up against the wall or flip each other over, whereas
the combat bots have an extra motor and they have
you know, spitting blades or saw blades or you know,
flip devices that will flip you up in the air.
And we got to watch this. And this is why
(33:37):
I'm so happy to actually say this on an unedited podcast,
because I'm sitting there with Eric and I'm looking at
him and I'm like, do you like this? Eric? Do
you think this is fun? And he turned to me
and as an eight year old child, he says Dad,
this is cool. Oh my god. No, And I was like, okay, okay,
(34:01):
well actually maybe not use that word, but yeah, you
want to get into this. And he's like, oh yeah,
I want to get into this. And so now we're
looking at digging out my old three D printer to
try to figure out if that thing still works right
to be able to and print some stuff. Otherwise, Matt,
I'll be hitting you up and paying you for your time. Now.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
He wants to get into battle bots now. And this
is cool because he was watching kids that were his age.
There were six seven eight year olds going against you know,
twenty two, twenty three, twenty four year old neck beards.
But it was great neck beards. I like it, all right,
if you make anything else for anybody, I mean, uh,
(34:47):
I want to mention Going Postal the Legacy Foretold is
a new movie making its rounds at the film festival.
So it's about all the movie, about the company, about
Vince Deisy, about the creation of the game, Oh my god,
and how crazy it was. Again, it's Going Postal the
Legacy Foretold. Now I don't know it's hitting the film festivals.
(35:08):
I want to see that movie. That's all about Lost.
That's the one I want to see. That one hasn't
been released i think yet on available to watch online.
I'm hoping this goes online at least so we can,
you know, watch it and the whole bit and celebrate
the movie. Maybe it'd be get Vince back on the show,
because it would be cool. Absolutely, yeah, it'd be cool. Anyway.
You gotta look for that one, all right, all right,
(35:28):
that's it for this week's Tech Talk Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Matt Jones, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Justin Let me thank you so much for listening. Please
tell your friends, and please don't tell on us for swearing.
I would like today week. You feel too well.
The following program is produced by the tech Talk Radio Network.
Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
I'm Matt Jones, and I'm justin Lemme and good to
have you here. We were hoping Sean would be him,
but he's got an uncontrollable child right now, which that
was his quote. That was his quote. He said it
(00:21):
not us, right.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Did you know that you can make chloroform at home
with two ingredients?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Did you know that you can get arrested for that
only if you get caught? You probably shouldn't even mention it,
all right? This is kind of weird too, because Matt,
this is why you don't have children.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Man, Yeah, that's why I got dogs.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Exactly we sell you, is that a Corgi that you have?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
One of my three is a corgy?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He is? He?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
There are two types of Corky's. There are Pembroke Corgi's
which have the little bunny butts with no tails, and
then there are Cardigans, which is trip Cardigan. Corgi's have
a long foxtail and they're at actually a working herding breed,
so they are used mainly in the UK for like
a herding dog.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
How they those little legs. I was gonna say, how
keep up with?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Here's the thing. Cardigans stand a little bit taller than Pembrook's.
They're a little thinner in the torso. And when Trip
wants to move, that little dude can book it. Really,
he easily keeps up with all the other dogs at
the dog park. And the best part is this was
why the corkis were bred to be herding dogs. When
(01:34):
like a sheep, a goat a cow. When they get
mad of the dog nipping at their heels and they
go to kick, they kick and the corky looks up
about two feet and it's like a missed.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
All right, So the show's a little different this week.
This is not a broadcast show. This show is not
being aired on the radio. It's being just we We
were gonna do just kind of a no show this
week because of that big event that's going on and SA.
But then we said, no, let's get together, let's pop
it onto the web, let's have some fun. This is
not going on the radio. No, not on the radio.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Fine, I don't have to say flying monkey farks.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Dang, you have been you guys have been waiting to
say that haven't yet. We have been asking for an
unedited show for about let me check my notes, ten years.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
We have a show and the title of it was
We're gonna get sued because we talked about uploading it
to YouTube. About edited.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, we have see. Now here's what you do, Andy,
You throw a mature content on speaker and you just
run with this because I guarantee you this is gonna
be the best show we have ever done. Well, let's
let's hope we.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Are gonna ride the wheels off this bitch. This is
gonna be fun, all.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Right, So let's let's before the show, we were doing
kind of a pre show. We were talking about AI,
and let's face it, it's one of the big things
everybody's talking about AI. You know. I just got to
notice the other day that Alexa Plus is now available.
If I want to have more of an AI experience
with the Alexa, I'll be honest with you, I use
(03:09):
the Google Gemini if I'm if I really want AI
and I want to find out something, I'll use that.
But there's so many other options that people are suddenly going, wait,
it'll do that for me? Yeah, it'll it'll do it.
It's do so much. I mean, I've been experimenting with
a bunch of these different the same as Matt. But
you know, as funny as before I get into that
(03:29):
part of it, it was I watched a YouTube video
last night about Apple, you know, and I was talking
about Apple's intelligence, and it was talking about how, you know,
the strategy that Apple has and this is this was,
you know, my big problem with Apple over the years.
I remember I always kept mentioning how Apple would always
just steal things from other companies, you know, like, oh, yeah,
(03:49):
we've had that for five years. All of a sudden
you get this and it's kind of the same idea,
what's happening with Apple intelligence. But yet this time it's
not really working out for them, because you know, Siri
is still dumber than two bags of rocks.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
They didn't even make Siri, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Really, they first thought they stole it. Yes, Siri was.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Originally an app that you could download from the App Store.
I remember downloading it when I had an iPhone, and
then all of a sudden one day they're like, hey,
we're shutting this down because Apple bought us, and it's
gonna be packaged and the next release of iOS and
it was a piece of shit, God compared to the
app that I had used before. Sorry to continue.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It still sucks. But but the thing is is, you know,
Apple is doing their their their Apple isms, and they're
letting other people develop these ais and then they're just
gonna take that and then try to make it their own.
But this time, with AI moving so quickly and so
many different companies jumping on board, Apple is is starting
(04:54):
to feel the heat and they're they're being left in
the dust, you know. And this might be the fire
straw with Apple because they haven't innovated anything in the
past decade. And then with this AI thing. Now I'm
getting off on a tangent. So going back to the AI,
You're right, there are so many options, like what do
you needed? What do you needed to do? Well? I
(05:17):
use it for coding at work. I use it for
writing bedtime stories for my kid. It's amazing. All of
them are amazing. But there's good parts about some and
there's bad thoughts about others, you know, right, right, yeah, Well,
companies have got to make the money when it comes
to you know, all this development that's going in One
of the big names that everybody's heard is of course
(05:38):
you know chat, GPT, Open Ai, and you know people
people continue to use it. I use it. I'm very
happy with what it can do for me. But you
pay for it. Uh No, I don't do if you
If you pay for it, you just a quick little caveat.
If you pay for an AI model, you are going
to get access to better features, just like you would
(05:59):
with any other thing that you pay for. So if
you try something for free and you're like, I don't
know if this is going to do what I wanted
to do, try the paid model for a month, what happens.
Now you've been experimenting with Grock, which is part of
x right, that's x A. I actually x AI now
because x AI owns x and x AI. But that's
(06:20):
a side note. But yes, it is uh from x
which is from Ipso Facto through Elon Musk's companies. But
x AI's grock model. I've used them all. I mean,
I guess I was we're talking pre show. I've used
chatty BT, I've used uh A Gemini, I've used deep
(06:40):
what was that deep Seek? Yeah, I've used mid Journey
for image. I've used I've used Grock, I've used I did.
I used it basically every one of them except for
the one that Matt mentioned, Pembroke Perplexity. Why do I
say Pembroke, I don't know. Oh that's why. Yeah, Okay,
I got confused.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Anyway, I'm gonna make mine and it's gonna be corky AI.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
There. There you go. But honestly, i've personally, in my
particular situation what I use AI for. I found grock
to be the most accurate, the best, the most thorough,
whereas chat GPT just spits out bullshit. Right, I just don't.
I don't. I just don't get it half the time.
But it's worked for me because maybe I'm just using
(07:25):
the basic features of it, thus not paying for it.
Well true, So for me.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
At work, I'm using perplexity AI a lot because it's
provided to us, and it's one of the ones where
you know, through our security prostors and stuff that were
allowed to use. And I like Perplexity because it gives
me access to the R one model, to the Chat
GPT models, to grock models. R one is a deep
(07:55):
deep seek.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So I have access to a lot of the different
aim models that are out there through perplexity, and I
can do the deep research. I can do thinking mode
where it you know, questions itself and really gets to it.
But like I for me personally, I've been paying for
chat GPT, but I am seeing its limitations. And you
know you're talking about how coding is much better through grock.
We've discussed on previous shows. You know, my the home
(08:20):
lab that I'm trying to build, and I have seen
chat GPT's limitations with that, and I did it with
Ford Dotzho. I tried four dot five, I tried oh
three many oh three Mini high and there were times
where I'd be like, hey, we're not using this built
in solution for DNS. We're using this solution for DNS,
And then three queries later, it's it's trying to do
(08:41):
the old one. And I have Actually I am one
of the people that like was always doing please and
thank you when I was using it.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, I wiped out all that goodwill in a night. Really,
I'd been fighting with this thing for twelve hours and
it went back and changed the AI and I'm actually
typing in there.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I'm like, we have covered this seventeen times. Stop trying
to use the old damn DNS. This is what we're using.
And it's just like, okay, okay, okay, got it. Hey,
just because I'm an AI, words hurt now, I'm like,
I'm gonna make the words hurt if you get this
damn DNS query right.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And then it's like here's your DNS and it's the
wrong one again, And it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Was two queries later. It's like we're going back to
using resolved yet and I'm like, that's not what we mother.
It's two in the morning. I am swearing worse than
a sailor. I should probably hang this up. You should
probably walk away for the day. I'm good, I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You. I urge you, Matt to try one month of
rock Premium and tell me what your thoughts are when
it comes to Cody pricing on it is not that bad, right,
eight bucks a month, that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That's less than I'm paying for chat GPT. And my personal,
my personal favorite thing with the ail is like Sam,
the head of open ai, is like complaining. He's like, well,
Deep Seek went in and stole all the data to
train their model, and this shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Allowed to do that as the.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
We did it, but they're China, so they shouldn't be
able to shut the f up, sit down and shut
up your as your ass is the reason that my
favorite Reddit app is gone and I have to use
their in house app because Reddit was like, oh my god,
who is pulling like six terabytes of data a day?
(10:39):
Oh my god? Who could it possibly be? I think
it might have been Open Ai and they're like, well,
now we gotta we gotta get our get our bag
if you're doing that. So every AI call is now
gonna be like five hundred bucks. And Reddit is fun,
which was the best Android Reddit app is like there
are six dudes and back room coding this. Do you
(11:02):
think we have that money?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, that's that's exactly why they did it. And and
and Reddit is gonna you know, they're gonna figure it out.
They they f they aft around, They're gonna find out.
But I I gotta say to turn a quick little
page on that. I gotta say. There's one cool thing.
Mesa has finally been dabbling in AI and she there's
(11:24):
a new there's a new trend going on right now
with chatch ebt, especially with Studio Ghibli. Now do you
guys know Matt, I know you know Studey Gibli is Andy. Yeah,
that's it's like anime, right, it's it's the most famous
Japanese anime of company of all time. They've made my neighbor.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Toturo spirited away. It's japan Disney.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's Japan Disney. Yes, so Mesa took a photo and Andy,
you have permission sell the photos up on the website,
put us up on the website. But we took a
photo of us.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
It was. It was last year at Bruce Beers, which
is our neighborhood brewery. There was a during a summer
concert series, and she took a quick, little, you know,
candid photo of the three of us and put it
into CHATTYBT and it came out amazing. I love it,
and I especially love Eric's face. I just love how
he's looking like, what the hell do you want? Like?
(12:21):
I just I love I love it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's so good at what it did, right exactly, I
have never seen Eric have more of a face of
get that damn camera out of my face.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, well that's kind of what he was feeling at
that moment. But but but when it turned it into
the studio Gibbli. It just made it so much better.
It looks like it just it just it really looks cool.
And it even got the background that with the with
the brick wall and the and the the stained the
water stains on the brick wall and the wooden fence.
I mean, you gotta put this photo on on the website.
(12:53):
But here's the thing. So so Mysa did it right. Yeah,
she just took a picture and uploaded a chattypet and
said make this studio Ghibli. Wow, that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Now from a counter like, it is amazing. It is,
but it does start to raise questions of like when
when is some of this going too far? Because it
does a fantastic job doing Ghibli's exact art style. But
I mean, this is a man.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
We had Walt Disney who eventually was just like I'm
done him out. Yeah Ghibli Like every time he's like,
I'm going to retire. And then they're like, all right, cool,
right off into the sunset, You've done enough. And then
three weeks later he basically boots the door to the
studio back open. It's like, I have another idea that
(13:45):
we need to do before I can retire. But every
single frame of every almost every Studio Ghibli movie is
drawn by hand. I saw a really cool picture of this,
like awesome, and that's why, like the food in Studio
Ghibli movies always looks so amazing. There is a picture
of like this awesome bowl of fried rice, and then
(14:06):
the picture before it of like every single grain and
everything is coded that they have to go in by hand.
I do truly think that, like, while this is amazing,
it's also the utter antithesis of his dream and what
he believes. And it's one of those from like this
is gonna be a great trend right up until the
(14:28):
lawyers are.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Like, well okay, okay, well real quick, real quick. This
I look at it a little bit differently. I do
agree with you that I believe that Studio Ghibli is
the last of its kind. I don't believe we'll ever
see another animation studio that does things by hand. I
don't think we'll ever see a style so unique and
(14:51):
so personal as Studio Gibili, unless it's a one person project.
Maybe well, I mean yeah, but they're never going to
reach that kind of level of fame with that kind
of thing. One person. But on the contrary, in a way,
I kind of feel like this is paying homage to
Studio Ghibli because they are not doing anything copyright. They
(15:13):
are not copyrighting any of his work because these are
all unique characters. They are doing it in the style.
And what is the best.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Form imitation is the best form of flattery now and
and two to Andy's point in the Justin's point of
a dying art two thousand and seven, Disney had a
live action slash animated movie called Enchanted. Oh yeah, an
a start in it. Yeah, I love that movie and
(15:41):
that movie is great.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Wait wait, wait, you give me a hard time for
like in Hallmark. Don't start other things?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No, no, don't start Disney.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Hallmark and you watching Hallmark and TLC. This is why
I drink.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's one so angry. But here's the thing. So in
that movie, it flips between live action and like classical
Disney animation. The movie almost did not get made because
they could not find artists who were still trained in
that style, in that style of hand drawn animation. They
(16:19):
were like, we need to tap in.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
They were like, we need to I'm sorry, go ahead,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
They were like we need to tap in for our
dream of this to old school Disney. We want the
animation to look old school Disney if they were a
victim of their own success. There was no one doing
old school Disney animation like that anymore. All almost all
the students at that point were three D or computer generated.
Because you can do computer generated. The looks hand drawn,
(16:46):
but they wanted that authentic feel to it, and the
movie almost did not get made because of it. So
you're right, it is a very dying art.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
What was the one from who framed Roger Rabbit? Was
that one of the brothers? So good that Disney? Yeah?
Oh that was not Disney. It was Disney. No, I
think Warner Brothers did. How did they have a right
at Disney? Called is like the Google food Master? No,
but that's the same thing. It was mixture of live action.
I think that was the very first one they ever did,
(17:15):
was it?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It was? It was the very first with live action
and animation as well.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And what is that Mary Poppins, Mary Poppins, Dick Van
Dyke Dance with the Penguins.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It was just the penguins. We're talking about the whole
damn movie.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Okay, but.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I can see what he's said. I can see what
he's saying, and I will give that to him. It's
not the very first time I will retract that statement.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The whole length movie full length.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Also, can we all agree Dick van Dyke has the
worst damn English accent known to mankind.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I wouldn't not know what to say about. Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It was made. The movie was made by Disney's Touchstone Pictures.
Uh and and Warner Brothers would only allow you some
of their biggest cartoon stars, Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck
if they got as much screen time as Mickey Mouse
and Donald Duck. That reason, they were always in pairs,
right and.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Then Tweety was in it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Uh, Daffy and Donald in the parachute scene with Bugs
and sorry piano battle between Daffy and Donald the parachute
scene with Bugs and Mickey. This was continued with Porky
Pig and Tinker Belt at the movie's ending.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Great movie that was was front. Roger Rabbit was great?
Did they do a sequel? Was there a hoof framed
Roger Rabbit two?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I don't think I don't think so, but I but
I can tell you that that movie that movie Jessica
Rabbit definitely spawned a love of redheads for an entire generation.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, but now you're married to one.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I'm speaking from experience.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
There is there a little bit of a connection there, Matt,
little connection. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Listen, I've always had a thing for redheads, and anyone
who knows me will tell you that that's true.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
And then of course you had the great late Bob Hoskins,
who was awesome in that. That was that was awesome,
such a great.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Movie, such a good movie, Bob. My favorite Bob Hoskins
has still got to be Smee in Hook.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Oh yeah, he plays he plays the deckhanded Hook.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah right, Yeah, he's he's Captain Hook's right hand man, Schmie.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
There's another one called Shattered with Bearringer and him, and
it's it's a great movie. He plays a detective, you know,
like the kind of detective that goes off on his own,
not not a cop, private detective. He's really good in it.
So if you ever can't see that one, just just
going back to our original topic. I don't even know
how we got into this, you know, with this whole thing,
(19:47):
but we're talking about AI. I just asked Grok was
there a sequel to proof Frame Roger Rabbit. It took
it three seconds and it spat out seven paragraphs of
information basically saying nope, wow, but it talks about it
in depth that I'm not going to go into that, right.
That would have been cool. That would be uh, that
would have been pretty cool to see. All right, speaking
(20:09):
of seeing stuff, I think we all have Plex, don't we.
I mean, yeah, well, Plex, Plex is going to raise
its price, Uh not for me a lifetime pass, lifetime baby.
I kind of wonder about that because so the annual
Plex pass has been thirty nine dollars for ten years,
and Plex put out a statement saying they've not increased
(20:32):
their price in ten years, so they have to increase
it based on the next subscription price from thirty nine
dollars to sixty nine dollars. They don't provide crap, dude,
Well they and then a bunch of press releases came
out saying, oh, Plex is doing this now and doing
that now and doing this now. So I don't know
what they're changing up but now not changing shit? Dude, No,
(20:53):
they don't. They don't provide anything. They're not worth it.
I mean, yeah, I have the Lifetime Pass, and I'm
happy with that because I'll never have to pay them
another dollar. Never even thought I wish I never had to.
Was the Lifetime passed one hundred and ninety nine? It
was one and nineteen? I think, wasn't it, dude?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
When I when I bought the Lifetime pass, it was
sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, see, I bought it for like one hundred and
nineteen or maybe one hundred ninetynine, I don't remember exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Now here's the thing for for you know, PLEX was
kind of like one of the big innovators, you know,
Home Home Done hosted Netflix. I used it. I used
it for years. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
They've been on the show before.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, there's there's alternatives out there, man, And the big
two right now are MB and Jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Now do they allow you to set up your own
media server.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
With yep, that's that's what they both do. And I
think jelly sorry not jellyfish, jelly Finn. Jelly Finn.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Jellyfish.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Jelly jelly Finn is actually a fork of MB.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
So what's the fork? What for.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
A fork is basically, so you've you've got the development
pipeline going work and then they just split off from
the project and did their own thing. They forked off
the project. So when you think of it, the term
came from like a fork in the road, all.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Right, Yeah, all right, So MB was a fork OFPLEX
and then and then and then Jellyfinn was a fork
of MB. Yep have to try that? And do they
charge a lot for that for their service?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I think jellyfinn is open source. If memory serves and MB,
you have to pay.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
But now if you want to do like the TV
guide and stuff with those, I remember having to pay
for the TV guide within Jellyfinn, which is also contracted
through a third party, so there is extra costs. But
you're right, Matt. If you want to just set up
a basic server, I think it's free. All right. I
got to tell you about a problem I've been having
with Adobe. Adobe, and and let's always have a problem
(22:51):
with Adobe, bro, Well.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Everyone's got a problem with Adobe. Adobe's got a problem
with Adobe.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I've been I have been a Adobe customer since before
when it was allus. I had the ice found my
disc the other day for all this photostyler and I
was looking for discs. That's why. But either way, here's
the deal. So people are going to be forced to
update their computers if they want to keep using them online.
And you know, when Windows changes from ten to eleven,
(23:17):
and I decided build a new system for the for
the studio, right, might as well do that. So I
build a new computer, get it all ready to go.
It's pretty fast, and it'll be taken over the Windows
ten system. And I go ahead and I go to
my Adobe account and I see my Master Collection five
(23:38):
point five CS five Master five point five most powerful
collection ever that they put out. It had dream Weaver,
Premiere Pro and after effects, Adobe Audition, which of course
we use quite a bit. And it says download. So
I go ahead and I download it. I create the
media for it, and I install it. I install it,
(24:00):
fire it up, looks good, walk away, come back, and
there is a nag screen that I need it that
it cannot be activated due to the fact that it's
been activated on other devices. So I'm like, what I
tried again the whole bit. So I reached out to
Adobe Tech support. I got Bangalore, India, talk to night
(24:21):
gentleman who told me. He said, he says, oh, yes,
you have to deactivate it. From other devices so it
can be activated. And I said, oh, okay, it's still
showing it activated on the other computer. So I go
ahead and I deactivate it. I go back to reactivate.
Won't let me activate it. So I said, well, maybe
(24:44):
it's on I had it on my Asus laptop. Let
me get it off my other laptop. I really don't
use it on the laptop too much. So I deactivated there.
Still won't let me do it. I go to I. Finally,
you know, I'm at a perplex. I reach out to
Adobe and I said, you know, I got this version
of CS five point five. It's perpetual license. Now, let
(25:06):
me ask you, guys, what does perpetual license mean? Same
as I mentioned with Plex right lifetime lifetime, right, I
got a perpetual license. I've deactivated on two systems. I
only have it installed on one system now, right, And
the guy says, oh, yeah, okay, we'll get good. You deactivated,
but unfortunately the servers for that have been retired, so
(25:29):
you cannot reactivate. Oh my god. Oh that's when you
dig out the terms of service and you sue those assholes.
I'm wondering how many. And I reached out to my
pr person because I have a license for the full suite,
the newest one that expires in May. They were kind
(25:51):
enough to let me take a look at it, but
that goes away in May. But and I reached out
and say, what are you going to do when when
people who have perpetual licenses for products suddenly can't use
them anymore because they wanted for a lawsuit. That's what
you're gonna do. I'm wondering now. And I don't know
if using PC mover well on the one system is
gonna let me move it over. I think I'm screwed.
(26:13):
So luckily I reached out to Matt and I said,
all right, what's a good replacement for an audio program
so I can record the show? And he said Reaper?
And I looked at Reaper. Reaper looks good. It's a
little different layout, but it means all my multi track
because I edit multi track, all my multi tracks are
gone because those are done in Adobie. So is Reaper
(26:35):
better than like Audacity?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yes, by long, long, long and far.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I'm gonna start using Reaper then.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Ye, Reaper is I've got a buddy who is actually
his side Hustle is uh, He's a voice actor for audiobooks.
He and I were theater majors together and he is
the one who turned me on to Reaper. He uses
that for every audiobook he records. And I am in
(27:03):
the process of trying to actually do my own little podcast. Uh,
and I'm using listen Listen man, I cheated on you
two weeks ago. I was on a different podcast. It
hasn't been released yet. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It is real quick is Reaper is Reaper? This whole
license thing is this? Is this a nagwaar or is
it really open? And they just like, hey, if you
want to see it, if you like it, and you
get what sixty days, then it's six days, Yeah, sixty
days to try it out. And if you like it,
they'd love you to buy it or not sharewear. But yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, it's try it and and for people listening, it's
reaper dot fm is the website. I'm down on this
right now, but it I mean, I'm I'm working on
my own little podcast and I I've been using Reaper
for that and it's great. It works really well. You know,
there's a touch of a learning curve if you're moving
over to it, or if you've never done anything like
(27:59):
that before. But if if you're not used to it,
there's tons of YouTube videos, there's tons of support docs,
there's communities behind it. And honestly, like with some of
this stuff Adobe has done recently and this is this
one was a new one to me of like, oh
we we sunset the activation servers, so get wrecked and
have a great day. Yeah, you can't ta stuff on
(28:21):
top of the other stuff that they're doing. Like if
you do like Adobe Cloud and you're like, I mean,
like because I had it for a little bit when
I was on Twitch and I was putting together some
of my branding. At one point I was like, all right,
I'm not using this anymore. Lee isn't using this for
her stuff. I'm gonna go ahead and cancel. They're like, oh, sure,
you can go ahead and cancel. You just have to
(28:41):
pay out the lifetime of the agreement for a cancelation fee.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Oh that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
So you're charging me, like now four hundred dollars to
cancel Adobe is Adobe is a the poster child, in
my opinion, of something that you see in tech where
a solution for photo editing, multi track audio, whatever it
may be, where the solution becomes the standard. And then
(29:09):
as they're the standard, they start getting too big for
their bridges, and all these other ones like kind of
start popping up like hey, we could be the new solution,
just letting you know. And they get too big for
their bridges, they start doing dumb pr shit. They start
going to where it's like I want more money and
they're gonna blow themselves out of business. They really, in
my opinion, really are. I would not be surprised if
(29:32):
in ten ten years, Adobe is a footnote of what
not to do well.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
They're just capitalism. They're jumping onto the AI bandwagon. I
mean they're trying really hard with that with processing AI
and stuff. And then the photographers were upset because it
turned out that they didn't own their own works anymore.
That was driving a lot of people crazy. I could
buy the suite if I wanted to seven dollars a
(30:00):
year to be able to use that, And I'm thinking
there are alternatives. Yeah, there are alternatives out there. Reaper
look good, Audacity I've used before. It's just a matter.
I think it's just a matter for anybody who goes
through this like like I'm going through now. You just
got to get used to it. It's just how you
arm a track, dude. Oh there is the other one.
(30:23):
The for video. I found a program called Caden Live
and that's k d E and l I ve E
because we do a lot of video too, and I
do a lot of multi track video as well. So
uh again, that's one I'm looking at right now. I asked.
I reached out to ADOBEPR. I said, what are you
going to do? Can you reactivate the servers for people
to install and upgrade to Windows eleven for anything that's
(30:46):
above say Adobe Creative Sweet four and that would include
you know, some of the other programs. And they said
they would get back to me, and that's it. Probably
not going to hear from them again. So unfortunately, people
who have bought the Adobe products are and I don't
know if there's gonna be a class action lawsuit. There's
(31:06):
been other lawsuits that have been talked about. Will there
be one. We're gonna have to wait and find out.
But that's crazy. I've got one more thing that I
want to mention here. All right, we did something this
weekend that that Eric and I should say, I took
him to the local hobby store up here in Westminster,
(31:28):
just Hobby Lobby of Denver, hobby Town that's bigger than
the lobby. Yeah, yeah, hobby Yeah, hobby Town. And he
got to witness battle bots. Battle bots. Oh my god,
are you kidding me? Real battle bots? Yeah, real battle
bot but at a much smaller scale. Yeah, they're like
(31:49):
miniature battle bots. So I didn't know about this, but
there's a dude that comes to he's a friend of mine,
comes to trivia every week, and he actually participates in
the battle bots and he builds his own BattleBots. And
we're talking about probably the size of a CD or
maybe a record. I guess like a vinyl record if
(32:10):
you really want to get big, but mostly the size
of a CD. These mini BattleBots. They're done from a company.
The company that's local here is called bot Rumble and
it's bot rumble dot com. It's a very super basic website.
I really honestly don't recommend going to see much of it.
But they're more on social media. You can go to Facebook, Instagram, whatever,
(32:32):
but they set up this a little arena and it
looks just like the actual TV studio but it's about
one hundredth of the size. That's awesome. And there are
people of all ages that will come to battle and
they print and they make their own robots. So I
saw a bunch of robots being made. And these are
(32:54):
all things that are from a three D printer that
have you can find them on thingaverse and you can
print out the shell and the thing averse file also
includes talks about like what different motors and servos and
other parts you might need to fit this particular bot.
And the guide on the bots battles are do you
(33:16):
have control bots and then you have combat bots? And
the control bots are just trying to pin each other
up against the wall or flip each other over, whereas
the combat bots have an extra motor and they have
you know, spitting blades or saw blades or you know,
flip devices that will flip you up in the air.
And we got to watch this. And this is why
(33:37):
I'm so happy to actually say this on an unedited podcast,
because I'm sitting there with Eric and I'm looking at
him and I'm like, do you like this? Eric? Do
you think this is fun? And he turned to me
and as an eight year old child, he says Dad,
this is cool. Oh my god. No, And I was like, okay, okay,
(34:01):
well actually maybe not use that word, but yeah, you
want to get into this. And he's like, oh yeah,
I want to get into this. And so now we're
looking at digging out my old three D printer to
try to figure out if that thing still works right
to be able to and print some stuff. Otherwise, Matt,
I'll be hitting you up and paying you for your time. Now.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
He wants to get into battle bots now. And this
is cool because he was watching kids that were his age.
There were six seven eight year olds going against you know,
twenty two, twenty three, twenty four year old neck beards.
But it was great neck beards. I like it, all right,
if you make anything else for anybody, I mean, uh,
(34:47):
I want to mention Going Postal the Legacy Foretold is
a new movie making its rounds at the film festival.
So it's about all the movie, about the company, about
Vince Deisy, about the creation of the game, Oh my god,
and how crazy it was. Again, it's Going Postal the
Legacy Foretold. Now I don't know it's hitting the film festivals.
(35:08):
I want to see that movie. That's all about Lost.
That's the one I want to see. That one hasn't
been released i think yet on available to watch online.
I'm hoping this goes online at least so we can,
you know, watch it and the whole bit and celebrate
the movie. Maybe it'd be get Vince back on the show,
because it would be cool. Absolutely, yeah, it'd be cool. Anyway.
You gotta look for that one, all right, all right,
(35:28):
that's it for this week's Tech Talk Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Matt Jones, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Justin Let me thank you so much for listening. Please
tell your friends, and please don't tell on us for swearing.
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