Episode 438 - Grok It Like It’s Hot: AI, Games & TV Tricks!

On this week’s TechtalkRadio Broadcast, Justin, Shawn and Andy talked about how they manage workloads and prioritize projects when dealing with IT Issues. Justin shared that he structures tasks around his budget and board approval, often using AI tools like Grok to help craft presentations, job descriptions, and marketing materials to help explain to the less Tech Saavy for an understanding of needs for the IT Team . While Andy wondered if Grok compares to ChatGPT with Justin noting Grok’s ability to pull real-time data and provide comprehensive information on demand of a more current nature.

In a live demonstration, Justin used Grok to search for Andy and Shawn, uncovering detailed professional and personal data from public sources and social media—sparking a discussion on privacy and how much of our lives are available online. This led to a broader chat about the pros and cons of such tools, with Andy and Shawn expressing concerns over data accuracy and the implications for personal security.

The trio also explored online safety, with Andy highlighting risks on platforms like Snapchat and stressing the importance of turning off location services. Justin shared a story from the game Sea of Thieves, where a young player casually revealed personal info, underlining how easily privacy can be compromised—even in gaming environments. They also touched on social engineering and the need for greater caution online.

Wrapping up, the group tackled a listener question from Dave about recording over-the-air TV using devices like the HD Home Run, discussed Comcast mobile savings, and talked about using Moca to expand home networks over existing Coaxial connections. They finished with some fun—chatting about the Minecraft Movie and the Chicken Thing, mini battle bots and more. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following program is produced by the tech Talk Radio Network. Hi,
this is Adrian Barbo. You're listening to tech Talk Radio
and you're gonna learn a lot. Welcome to another episode
of tech Talk Radio. I'm and Dey Taylor.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm sure weird and I'm justin Let me welcome. It's
been NonStop events at work. This big world event happened,
you know where the pope died. Yeah, that kind of
strets and things up at work and uh yeah, so
the graduations coming up and her name days is coming up,
so we're just busy.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
When does so when does the university system take off
for summer?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Do they?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
They did do summer breaks, right, they're eventually yea, our.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Graduation is May fifteenth, and then we have some high
school graduations after that that we're doing in our venues.
And then usually it's like the second week of June
and then it slows down until the third week of August.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Do they give you a list of all the stuff
that you couldn't get to before the break and that?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh yeah, my boss has a list my arm it's
like my arm's length of here's what we want to
accomplish this summer. We didn't do last summer or the
summer before that, or the summer before that.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
So let's get to it.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
As an IT manager, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah,
you do.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
You have to how do you prioritize justin like when
you get like work orders and you get trouble tickets
or whatever at the park, how do you prioritize Okay,
we're gonna get to this one today.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
It works differently, right, I mean, yeah, depends on what
kind of industry you're in. I mean, you know, obviously
Sean is in the education industry. I'm in the entertainment industry,
you know, working at a water park and everything. So
I would say you prioritize money loss as the top priority.
So if you've got a point of sale that's down

(01:41):
that's preventing you from making money, that is the number
one priority is get that machine back online so you
can make money. But then, you know, when it comes
to like the off season, it's it's kind of more
of like the bigger projects, you know, and I prioritize
the bigger projects based on my budget. Yeah, I mean
how much money can I get? How much money am
I allowed to have for this next year. I present

(02:02):
my ideas to the board of directors and I say, look,
this is what I want to do this next year,
and they say yay or nay, right, And that's just
kind of how it works.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I'm kind of wondering how a lot of people are
working the whole Windows you know, ten to eleven update
and maybe not being able to update. You know, how
are they kind of putting in for all, Right, we
got to buy X amount of systems, We've got to
buy brand new computers. We've got to buy to this
to operate. And will the bosses understand what's being talked about?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, that's the hard part is making sure that you
can somehow make it clear to the bosses that this
is what needs to be done, this is what we
want to do, you know, this is what needs to
be done versus what wants to be done. That's the
hard part. And you know, and and that kind of
like recently, that's where I've been using AI. I'll go

(02:54):
to groc you know, which is from you know, x XAI,
and I'll be like, look, you know, I want to
present this idea to the bosses and and I'll describe
I'll be like this is what I want to do,
and I'll say it in like geek terms. I'd be like, well,
I want to upgrade the ethernet on the on this
and blah blah. I mean, I'll just use all these

(03:15):
you know, tech terms, and I say, dumb it down
for me, and not in a disrespectful way, but dumb
it down to the point where somebody who's non technical
can understand the implications of allowing this project to move
forward versus not, and it'll write me a very nice presentation.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I've always thought grock and now this is where you get.
We talked about GROC a couple of weeks ago. I
always thought it was really like just on on X,
that you would just use it on X. You actually
can use it for creating documents and doing other things
as well.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's it's it's its own, it's its own website. I mean,
it's it's uh, yeah, you don't have to use it
within X. You can subscribe to grock without having to
subscribe to X. But here's the thing, a little secret.
If you subscribe to X with the I don't know
what they call it, X plus with the with the
blue badge, it's like eight dollars a month. You get

(04:10):
access to groc full access for the whole full access,
but if you subscribe to Groc on its own, it's
twenty bucks a month. Yeah, I hate right, So you
kind of like, okay, okay, fine, I'll get the blue
check mark on Twitter or whatever X. I'll get the
blue check mark and then I get access to Rock. Now.
What we've done recently though, is I was able to

(04:31):
convince my boss to say, look, we use GROC a lot.
I use Groc a lot, and I know that other
people do. Let me sign up for a super rock account.
And that is three hundred dollars a year. Oh wow,
all right, and you get access to the top of
the line models that they have offered. And I basically
what I did was I paid the three hundred dollars

(04:53):
and I use it for work. But I've given my
login information to very people throughout our company to say, hey, look,
if you need it, if you need help with writing
a job description or a press release or whatever you
might want it, a sales pitch, whatever, here's my credentials

(05:15):
log in and you can use grock super Grock to
help you write it. And so far, a lot of
people have actually been using it for that purpose and
it's great.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
I've been having a lot of fun with It's still
chat TPT, and I know you use chat TPT for
a little bit. Do you find GROC to be a
little more powerful than chat jib?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, grock is the smartest one I've ever used. Now,
I haven't used the latest model of CHATTYPT because again,
I'm not going to subscribe. I'm not going to pay
the thirty bucks a month or whatever it is for
their latest model. But I can tell you that when
I use chat GPT, there was always a knowledge based
cutoff where it would say, well, I don't know what's

(05:56):
happening now, because my knowledge cutoff is September of twenty
twenty two. Now, oh, GROC is like screw it, man,
let's do it. And they'll go and they'll they'll show
you like real time scores, Like I can be like,
what's the score of the Colorado Dallas game? Right now?
Let's actually play and as we're recording this show, and
it will tell me what the score is. That's pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
That is good, because yeah, that that has been one
thing that slowed people down that you really didn't have
the most up to date research.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Maybe with chat DPT.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
If GROC is able to give that to you real time,
that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
One of the cool features that I really like about
grock is the think mode, right, and what this allows
it to do is GROC will actually talk to itself
and it will think its way through your question. So
let's say I'm like, oh, write me some code, some
Python code about how to build a bot that can

(06:49):
I don't know, go and like tech talk radio on
YouTube a bunch of times, right, right, So it'll be like, okay,
so the person wants to create a code, let me
think about this. Now the code has to be thumb,
but the Python code has to be this, and then okay, well,
YouTube algorithm says this. Okay. Well, YouTube's algorithm says, wants
to do this. We have to determine where does the
mousepapes that happen when the mouse people that happened. This okay,

(07:10):
So then we have to say you like it, and
then we have to go okay, now you have to
wait five seconds and then we have and it like
it literally will think to itself and then it we'll
go okay, here's your code, boom and it. We'll spit
it out now. Does it do like with chat TPT.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I've been having fun with this creating graphics for another
show that I produced, and it started creating a graphic
and it gave me the same character, which was kind
of cool.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Does GROC do that same type of thing? I haven't
tried making making images with GROCK. I have been on
that whole bandwagon with chat GPT where we do the
studio GHIBLI pictures where that was converted. Yeah, those are
those are really cool. But I don't know. But like,
let me try something quick. I'm on GROC right now,
So watch this. Tell me everything you know about Andy

(08:00):
Taylor of Tucson. Oh, great, Arizona. Okay, that's all I'm
gonna say. All right, Okay, all right, here we go searching.
I'm not going to thinking there are multiple individuals named
Andy Taylor as sociated Tucson based on available information. Okay,
Andy Taylor, Radio broadcaster and technology correspondent. Andy Taylor is
a well known radio personality and technology expert in TuS

(08:21):
on a zone with over thirty years of experience in broadcasting.
Here is a comprehensive overview of his profile wow, and
it goes into your professional background. It was the barring
Andy Morning Show and polic Springs talks about. Since nineteen
ninety six, Taylor has produced a host of tech talk radio.
He also writes various technology columns for various publications. Early

(08:43):
career began at age ten.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah is that true? Yeah, my parents say made me
work at their little radio station recording tapes.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
This is the AM radio stations, holding various jobs. He
worked as a nightclub DJ at a bowling alley. Yes,
that was my first gig. Personal details Taylor is associated
with an address of blah blah blah. Are you kidding me?
It gives your actual address.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Oh, that's publicly available onto so many websites, and.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
It says your home is worth blah blah blah with
blah blah square feet, three bedrooms and two bathrooms. Contact information,
here's your phone number? Is my phone number on there,
and it says your interests enjoys spending time with family,
exploring technology news, and browsing adult websites. No, we does.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
It does?

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Now?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Great? No, no, but really it really does mention a
lot of information about you.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, that is really that is really crazy, and that's
public information that's available, and it just.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Pulled up like seventeen different people named Andy Taylor and
actually a lot of them. Are you just various versions
of you?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Just that's a trip, Yeah, from all different many profiles
that have been there.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
One here that actually talks about all your previous addresses.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
That is crazy, all the way back to California and everything.
That's that's just nuts. To talk about Walker working at Disneyland.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
You know about that? About that one, yeah, yeah, but
that's it's pretty funny. This is wow. This is the
kind of information you can pull just from a very
quick five second search on rock.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You know, I've always told people at some point you
need to google yourself. Find out what information is out
there about yourself that can actually help protect you in
case somebody is trying to, you know, do a fishing,
fishing ploy on you. So you know what info is
out there, and you know that is important. And I mean,
I get the phone calls, let's refinance your mortgage, you

(10:37):
know that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
What is the what is the city you live in?
South Bend?

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, Sean, there you go. Let's see what it says
about Sean Granger technically great.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Oh yeah, Granger, Okay. Wellean Shanda Weir is a broadcast
engineering professional based in South Bend, Indiana. Current Roles employed
as a broadcast engineer at University of Notre Dame Right
Tech Talk Radio. Since twenty nineteen, he has been a
co so tech Talk Radio. Look at that. I mean
in Marsha twenty twenty five, Seawan director of the first
four games of ESPN during March Madness. Wow what. He

(11:08):
attended NAB in twenty twenty five in Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
That is I worked on I worked on the first
five games of the graduated from Farris State University.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
You're a director now, Sean personal personal He lives in Granger, Indiana.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Wow. Uh, including photography, video production, building computers, flying RC
planes and drones, and playing video games. He's an avid
Dungeons and Dragons player. Wowed it?

Speaker 4 (11:34):
But basically I rip off the blog.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah yeah, I mean, but seriously, this is what it
just finds. And it found all of your channels Vimeo, YouTube, Twitter, Twitch, Instagram,
I mean half of those don't exist. It found your wife.
You're a doctor, doctor de Weird.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Oh my gosh, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
That is there is there a Miriam de weird beastson.
Who's that? Do you know? Miriam M? Do weird Beasts
in class of nineteen forty three from ball State? Oh,
it says unlikely unrelated. Now okay, oh.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Wow, So people need to Google themselves so they know
what Google go to go to rock.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, grock is pulling up back.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
It's an it's like a it's it's everything combined. It's
every single website combined. And you don't have to go
through all the searching through ads and stuff. It's just
gonna present you with the data right there.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
So, and it's eight bucks a month for the full access.
Can you trial the groc so you can?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm not sure. I wonder if they have a try
think so. I don't think so. I think you just
I think you can. Just yeah, if you just sign
up for like one month of of X premium right,
not premium plus, and then yeah, go to grock dot com. Wow.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I know that Facebook has been trying lately to really
get people to pay the money to get the check mark.
They've been doing that to get the maid of Mark,
and you know, it's just like I just never found
the need to do that. But again, you know, I
just kind of wonder if now blue Sky doesn't have
a did they know they have a check mark now

(13:06):
as well? That they're doing some kind of system I
never used.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I never actually used a Blue Sky.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, it's okay, I mean it's it's I'm connected with
a few people there.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
What this is interesting? I searched myself. Yeah, all right,
what did what did it kind of with? Well, it
says I'm a I'm a broadcast engineer. It professional coast
of tech Talk Radio. Oh, there you go. So I'm
a based in Denver, Colorado. But it says my current
role is a broadcast engineer and it professional for a
broadcast media group in Denver. Because I haven't I never
updated my other socials. Oh that I don't that I

(13:38):
don't work for you used to work for that tribune. Yeah,
because it says a co producer and show host for
tech Talk Radio and then it talks about history. I
left Tech Talk Radio in October of two thousand and
three to serve in the US Navy. Right because it's
pulling that from our blog. Wow. Oh, notable projects. I've
worked on media projects for water World, recording messages for attendees.

(14:03):
How does it call that?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
How does this pick that up? Does it listen to
the shows?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
It?

Speaker 4 (14:07):
We definitely have talked about that on the show.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, and it says he also expressed excitement about the
reopening of Casa Beanina. That was one of our show.
That was one of our shows. I remember that voiceover work.
Justin has experience in voiceover acting, referencing a YouTube video
five Guys in a Limo, which showcases top voiceover actors.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
See that was recent. That was seriously that like within
the last month.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I was Oh past Roles, government contractor, BMW Carr salesman
and AOL call center. Yeah you did that, didn't you.
I did all of this.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Oh man, that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Now does it mention me?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
So?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Does it mention anything else? It doesn't mention that. It
mentioned that I was in the Navy. Actually, hold on it,
says uh. Family a son named Eric, for who he
purchased an Acer Predator gaming laptop. Three weeks. We just
talked about Custodio parental control software to monitor Eric's online activity.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Did you put this on the blog? Yeah, it's up,
it's up there. Well, we talked about we talked about
that on the show.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Okay, well, I know we talked about on the show,
but I didn't know if you actually like put it
on the blog in text for may I think I did.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, because it's Mitches Custodio is it?

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Just?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
You know?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Justin was the expressed interest in visiting Super Mario World
in Japan and discussed travel like logistics, including flying during
the pandemic and first class experiences. You know what we
gotta do.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
We gotta do this in Selwoudita at one of the
fairs that we do, whether it be a fiesta Cela,
set up and do searches for people and find out
what we know about them that.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oh my god, dude, seriously, like can you imagine this?
Like you meet somebody at a coffee shop or a
nightclub or whatever, and you're like, hey, what's your name?
Where are you from? That's all you got to ask them,
And then bam, you turn to groc and you start
typing in tell me what you know about this person
from this area, and it's gonna be like boom, here
you go. And then you can be like, oh, weren't
you the one that was in that that play at

(16:04):
the local theater And they'll be like how did you
know that? And be like, oh, I just I just
know things. Think about it.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
This can be a tool for and again this is
why people need to be you have your your guard up.
This could be a tool for fishers people because like
I play.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
What I'm leading towards. This goes back to those famous
like Facebook, Instagram pipe posts where it's like this fake
radio station that'll post, you know, social media, it'll say
I bet you don't remember what street you grew up on,
and it's like people are like, oh, yeah, I grew
up on on on Boulevard Lane or whatever, and it's like,

(16:40):
don't give that information away. First off, that's not even
a real real radio station. And second off, what you're
doing is you're just literally giving people your personal information.
And then the next question is going to be, oh,
I butt you care trouble? What your parents made in names? What? What?

Speaker 4 (16:59):
What is?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
What's your last for your Social Security number? I remember
you can't tell? How about this one?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Do you remember your first phone number? The legally whether
or not that can lead to a name search that
shows up properties. It's pretty amazing when somebody does the
search like that, it can actually show where you've lived
in the past. All that information is out there, so
you've got to be really careful. You know, we got
our scam squad trying to remind people out here, don't

(17:23):
do this, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Somebody comes up.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
And they seem like you're best friend online. Even if
they are your friend, you don't have to give out
any information, joke around with them if you have to,
or just don't even connect with them.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Well, you know, it's kind of funny you mentioned that
because we were gonna we were gonna probably you know,
migrate into this topic anyway. But you know, I recently
have been playing a lot more of a game called
Sea of Thieves on Yeahs you used to before I did.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
I did.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
It's been out since twenty eighteen, and I've been playing it.
But I needed somebody to play with. So they have
their official discord channel where you can just jump into
a random voice chat right and then you can, you know,
gather up players. And this guy just randomly joined me
and he was like, hey, you want to play, and
I'm like, yeah, sure, no problem. So I added him
as a friend on Xbox and we started playing, and

(18:09):
then I was like, oh, hey, your name's David and
he's like, wait, how do you know that. I'm like, well,
it actually says it right on there, like your name,
your real name is next to your gamer tag. And
he's like, oh my god, Oh my god, I don't
think I should be telling you that. I'm like, well, okay,
first off, calm down, I'm not a scammer. Okay, I'm
just telling you what I see. It's right there in

(18:31):
the gamer tag. And he's like, well, I'm only fifteen
years old. And I'm like, okay, I get it. I understand.
Don't worry about like I'm not here to mess with
you or whatever. And actually we become friends. Like this
kid fifteen years old, he lives somewhere in Canada. He's
a kind of like a friend of mine. Now. We
played see if these all the time. But it's just

(18:51):
even that simple bit of information, like when he created
his Xbox gamer tag, he left the option checked to
show real name and he's like, I can't get I
can't change it now because my sister owns the Xbox
account and I can't get in and do it. I
was like, well, just talk to your sister. He's like,
I don't talk to my sister. Anymore, and I was like, oh,
that's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
A problem, and that could take away his being able
to play see if thieves exactly.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
So yeah, he's like, yeah, well now you know my
real name. And I'm like, okay, yeah, whatever it's but
it goes back to your thing. It's like, even as
something the simple at playing a video game with somebody,
people are going to know what your gamer tag is
and then they're going to figure out they can connect
the dots.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Right well, I'll tell you you know, when we had
t Tanya Jordan on she was on the show a
few weeks back, she mentioned the one of the most
dangerous is snampchat and she talked about the location thing
on that. Well, wudn't you know as somebody had posted
something on snap and I'm on snamp and I gave
it a like and then that person sees that, oh

(19:50):
somebody liked it, and they sent me a message saying
do I know you? And I said, I said no,
I just liked your image, and I said, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
I in Tucson.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I'm a techie, and just left it like that she
was in Tucson as well, that I do know. Right Well,
then I went who is this person? I went to
go look and she had a location turned on. Here's
the thing you have, kids, you're on it yourself. Turn
off your location because what it does is it tells

(20:22):
everybody where you live, when you're home, when you're not home,
and when you were at work. And when I saw it,
I saw that her location was turned on. Mine's turned off,
but her location was turned on, and it was showing
exactly where she was, she was at work and exactly
at where she worked. And I'm thinking, if you know,
if I was a weirdo, if I was a stocker,

(20:42):
I could show up at her work and that's the
whole thing. So I said, listen, I would recommend on
your snapchat. Since you're fairly new, she had only said,
had about three hundred messages that had gone in and out.
I said, I would go ahead and turn off your
location services. If you go in your settings, turn it off.
Otherwise people are going to know exactly where you're at,
where you're working at.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
So I don't know if she did.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
I don't know if she ever did, because I haven't
seen her post in quite a while.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
But that could be real dangerous. He just blocked. He
was like creeper and the creeper. I mean, honestly, that's all.
She's a young person. Don't try to keep She's like,
oh my god, is creepy old guy's telling me that
he knows where I'm at. I'm gonna block.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Where did you get creepy old guy? This lady was
in her thirties. Where do you get creepy old guy from?

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Thanks a lot, somebody. I mean, I'm just saying, I
mean anybody that's older any look, I get the creepy
old guy.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
I worked with a bunch of like sixteen and eighteen
year olds. Okay, I'm the creepy old guy.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I used to catch flak for this from my last
morning show co host when somebody would call in and
I'm not a creeper, but they would call and she
called me a creeper because of this. They would call
in and they would tell us her name to participate
in the contest or add something to the show.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
What would I do?

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Fire up Facebook and do a search to find that person?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
And she had.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Dakota ended up saying, you know what, that is really creepy.
You got to stop doing that, And I go, no,
I want them to follow us. I want them to
follow the show. She said, no, you're just looking for yourself.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I go, no, I'm not so yeah, yeah, but I
mean this is this goes to show how easy it
is to pull people's information from social media or just
the Internet itself.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, and again again, somebody could say, oh I knew
your dad, and then you know your dad's name or
your mom know your mom's name, So you gotta be rere.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
It was really careful. There was this one time, and
I'll be honest with you, this is this is one time.
This is a long long time ago. I was playing
a game. I can't remember what game it was. It
was Rust Rust, and I was playing with this dude,
random dude I met within Rust and we became really
good friends. Like we were playing all the time, all
the time. And then one night we were just sitting around,
we were drinking a couple of beers together, and then

(22:52):
he was like, you're like where you live? And I'm like, oh,
you know, I was living. I live in Denver or
whatever I meanbe it was San Diego at the time,
I can't remember. And then I was like, where where
do you live? And he's like, oh, you never heard
of it. It was it's up in a it's a
cala math I think, mane whatever, which I don't know whatever,
and I was like, oh yeah. So immediately I'm like,

(23:14):
I'm like googling maps his city just because I just
wanted to see how far I can get with it.
Like I wasn't trying to do nothing nefarious. I just
wanted to see how far exactly. And I was like, oh, yeah,
I know that city, and he's like, well, what do
you know about it? And I just randomly picked out,
like oh, mom and Pops sandwich shop on the corner
of Third and seventh, Yeah, And I'm like I used
to go there all the time. And he's like, wait,

(23:35):
what you used to go here? And I'm like yeah, bro,
And I would go to their website. I would look
at the menu and I'm like, oh, I used to
order the ham and cheese. The ham and cheese is
so good. And he was like totally buying it, right.
He was like, oh yeah, I just I live off
of like, you know whatever. And I'm like, oh wait,
hold on, wait fifteenth And like as I'm saying this,

(23:55):
I'm pretending I'm thinking and I'm searching for that. Yeah,
And I'm like, I'm like a fifteenth in whatever street.
Like I'm just I'm I'm not even giving away information here.
I'm just to like totally randomly saying stuff. I'm like, oh,
fifteenth in Maine. Oh yeah. Oh wait, hold up, are
you like at the third house on the left, the
white one, because I'm looking at street view and he's
like no, no, I'm the green one next door. I'm like, wait,

(24:16):
hold up, dude, my friend lived like down the street
from you. And he's like, wait, what's your friend's name?
And I quickly like search a friend, you know, like
people like you, and the guy was buying it. This
is how easy it is to become a scammer.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, it really is. Wow, it's about all about information.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Over there.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
It's just I'm just most things good time.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
It's like it's it's it's like the confidence walk, right
when I worked in news and you could get anywhere
just by looking like you blonde, that's so true, and
acting like you knew what was going on. Same thing
social engineering, Like they're like, oh he knows what's going on.
I'm not gonna bother him.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
It's the same thing. It's like, oh, you know all
this stuff about me, it must be legit.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Well, that's been one of the ways I feel like
I could just spend two seconds and search for it
on the internet.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's been one of the ways that people have been
able to break networks and be able to get in
to a company they want to get into their internal network. Yeah, Midnick,
you know, talked about that walking in and actually like
you know what you're doing, and some people will just
be like, oh yeah, yeah, come on in and you're in.
You can find an office that's empty, you I mean,
as Spielberg could set up an office at Universal Studios

(25:20):
and with a name plate and everything, and that was
back in what the seventies. Imagine now somebody just walks in,
sets up an office, uh, plugs into the network, and
they can right away get all kinds of information off
of it. That is one way that people will use
to break into a system.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Social engineering. That's that's still the best way to do it.
Last year, when we had some summer interns that worked
for us, Yeah, one of the things I did with
the summer intern is the guy that nobody knew who
he was, I gave him a fake Horizon vest and
a fake for Rizon badge yep, and a helmet you know,
and and a briefcase with some fake work orders. And
I told him, I said, I want you to visit

(25:58):
every one of our properties. Our golf course, our mini
golf course, our ice center, our fitness center, our sports center.
I want you to walk in there and I want
you to tell them that you're here to install Internet
circuit great, and I want you to show them the
fake work order, and I want you to let me
know if they give you access to the IT room.
And every single property except for one. Succeeded in saying

(26:22):
get out of here. Wow, amazing.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
All right, listen, we got to take a break. We
come back with more of tech Talk Radio Radio. Kudos
to one of our members of the show. We haven't
talked to her for a while, but we'll tell you
about that. I'm Andy the Creeper.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I'm Sean about to go install Verizon Internet and one
of Justin's properties.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
And I'm Justin. Let me the old guy. Tech talk
Radio can find us on the web tech talk radio
dot com. We'll be right back and now back to
tech talk Radio. So before the break, we were talking
about that, I've been kind of like playing this game again,
and I'm kind of the gamer geek, and Sean, you're
obvious gamer geek thief. The game, Yeah, it's called c

(27:04):
I Thieves and it's a It's on Xbox Game Pass.
It's also actually on PlayStation as well, and it just
got released on battle dot Net. In case you don't
have Xbox Game Pass or PlayStation, you can get it
on Battle neet, which is Blizzards. But it's basically a
game where you get to become a pirate and the
graphics are very cartoonish, I guess you could say, but

(27:25):
the gameplay is definitely not. The gameplay is very much well,
I mean, you can anybody can really play. I think.
I don't know, Sean, what's the rating E for everyone?
Or is it mature? I don't remember, but I.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Mean it's it's no gore.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, there's no gore, but yeah, but there's But there
is a multiplayer game, and it requires an Internet connection
and so therefore you are playing against real people, and uh,
those people can get a little vocal, if you know
what I mean. Oh wow. But what's fun about the
game is exactly that you can do whatever you want
in the game. If you want to just run commodities

(28:00):
like take rare gemstones from one port to another, you
can do that. If you want to go and dig
up gold treasure using maps like pirate maps.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Let's say you go do those bounties where you're like,
I'm gonna ship these treasures from point A to point B.
There are people that get quests to.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
An except yeah, your gems from point A.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
To point B. So it's like you're definitely playing it's
it's definitely a lot fun.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Do you have to have a killer machine to play this?

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Umm, you have to have a decent gaming rig. I guess,
I mean I can play it on the Steam Deck,
but but it definitely is a Yeah, you can't have
just like a basic computer with integrated graphics. You need
a dedicated graphics card. But you definitely don't need a
top of the line rig. I mean the game was
released back in twenty eighteen, so you know, we're approaching

(28:49):
what's seven years on it. But it is an amazing game.
It's so much fun. It's called Cea of Thieves and
it's just a pirate game.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
You've been getting back into this because you've been watching
somebody actually playing the game, which kind of changes the
whole experience, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Absolutely. Yeah. There's a guy that I've been watching a
lot on Twitch. He goes by hit bo TC and
I'm actually I'm trying to get him on the show.
I'm telling him because he was talking about one of
his streams. He's like, yeah, I want to get I
want to get famous someday. And I was like, hey,
why don't you come on Tech Talk Radio, will make
you famous overnight. You know, you know we're big time.
You know, we're big time. And he was like, oh,

(29:25):
you don't want to interview me, you know. I was like, no,
Actually I kind of do because remember back in the day,
we interviewed Riya's stream, we interviewed Darkness four two nine,
you know, these other streamers, and I kind of think like, Okay,
a lot has changed since we talked with those guys, right,
And I kind of want to understand how has things
changed for you, you know, since the pandemic, Like how
do you maintain your your audience? How do you maintain

(29:49):
your livelihood? Because this is what he does. I mean,
he's a father of four. I don't know what his
wife does, right, but he plays he plays video games
for a living.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Now that we're pretty much I'm going to say it's
over because I know somebody you just got about of COVID.
But now that the pandemic has pretty much done, does
how is that affected online gaming and people watching some
of the online gaming streams?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Has that gone down? I think a little bit. I
mean in a way. I mean I've seen other streamers
come and go, But at the same time, I see
all these new streamers popping up left and right. I mean,
these guys are you know, guys that are you know
on twitch? You know, and Twitch is really hard. Twitch
is like going into the wild wild West, man. I mean,
you're inundated with streamers that are you know, a thousand

(30:33):
different streamers playing the same game as you are. How
are you going to get featured right amongst these thousands
of people? But I actually tune into the guys that
have you know, ten people watching, fifteen people watching, maybe
five people watching. That's who I tune into. I don't
necessarily tune into the ones that are having thousands of
people watching. In them, You're never gonna get a chance

(30:54):
to talk to them because their chat is moving so fast,
because they're having so many people comment, and honestly, at
that point you're kind of gone into automatic mode where
you're just you're just playing the game making money. It's
the people that are having the less than let's say,
sub five hundred watching are the ones that are actually
going to pay attention to you as a viewer and say, hey, Andy,

(31:15):
how you doing today? Man? Thanks for watching. Appreciate it,
Thanks Sean, Thanks to the two dollars, Sean, I really
appreciate it. You know, you watch guys like Doctor Disrespect.
He ain't gonna call your name unless you donate at
least one thousand dollars or Ninja, Yeah, or Ninja. You
have to donate one thousand dollars for them to get
you to call your name out.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
There are fewer count It's incredible. I mean, yeah, I know, sure,
sure it is. But I'm just wanting have you ever
streamed and had you know, a game on while you
were streaming?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Did you ever?

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Cause I tried it with Mike's flight simulator and it
was like it was not good because my graphics just
started dying.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Well, first off, you picked the wrong You pick the
most boring game in the world to stream. Okay, yeah, no,
I did. I tried a couple of various games. Don't know, man,
it was it was right back in the beginning of
the pandemic and stuff, and I maybe had like two
three people watching, and like two of those are my
wife and my mom so and the third was probably

(32:12):
a bot trying to like get my information. Like so, yeah,
I would say, I don't think I've ever had an
actual real viewer.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
I think it like five is the max I've had. Five.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, Well, now what were you doing?

Speaker 4 (32:25):
So I streamed a while back?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Like if I look back, I probably started streaming in
twenty eleven.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Oh wow, wow that long twelve.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah. Yeah, but so I would stream on you.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Stream, oh yeah, or justin TV we were on those
yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
What was you stream? Did do you stream? What happened
to you stream? Brad? I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I'll tell you Brad Hunstable who started you stream? Uh
ended up selling it to IBM, and IBM took it
and basically it just shut it.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
It just ended. But U stream was great.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
We used to be on U stream and we had
so many we still have listeners that listen to the
show that used to watch us on U stream. But
we were Yeah, we were streaming from my garage in
the old house.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
If I went back to look at what my first
stream was, it was when I was working for my
first time out of college, so this would have.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Been May two thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
We started testing trying to stream the I worked for
a company that did a lot of the Archer Remax
stock car series. Now it's part of DASCAR. We would
stream a single camera to the web camera. I'd be
up on the press box just following the lead and
we would stream it to the web and use the

(33:44):
radio audio as our audio.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Wow, that's we would just do tech talk.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
We would do the show. Slick was in on it.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
You were you were still in the Navy, and that's
how we were using it.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
So what game? What games were you playing, Sean.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Oh, it was world Craft? Okay, StarCraft.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I did some StarCraft stuff when I got into really
early in access into Heroes of the Storm, which is
another Blizzard game. I played a lot of that. I
streamed a ton of Overwatch when it was first out.
Kind of whatever I was playing, I would stream. If
you go to my YouTube page, you can it was
all streamed to my YouTube page. I used restream and
streamed by Twitch YouTube, uh Facebook, when I had it.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I have your YouTube page right here from groc Yeah
of course.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
But if you go, if you go to my live pages,
you can go back and watch all of my Dungeon
Dragons live streams.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Oh wow, because because.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Twitch after inactivity for a while, it only archived so
many and they don't tell you. And then you go
back and you're like, I want to look at my
clips from three years ago, and then like to.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Con, I'm sorry, I have to say the number one
video that it popped up on your page, the weird
sizzle reel. Wait, what the heck does that mean? It's
so a.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Sizzle reel and Andy you can like it's reel in
the industry is just like your your hot clips, Like
it's like a collection of your hot clips from.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
You know, this is actually kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, it's it's it's like a demo reel, but it's
called a sizzle reel instead of a it's only a
couple of minutes.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Well, the thumbnail doesn't do a justice because it's like
you in a flight suit in a cockpit of an
airplane or something like that.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
That's not yea, Well, I don't sure that. No, we did.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
We did some stuff that that that thumbnail specifically is
from the Thunderbirds came and flew at the Field of
Flight in Battle Creek and we did a story with
them and they took one of our reports.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
A famous video on here too.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yes, your video has probably not because it kept getting
taken down because I didn't know the rights to it.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
And oh but it's it's not in my sizzle reel
if that makes.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Sense, right, yeah it does. Oh that's so cool. All right, listen,
we got it. We got it. Take a break, but
we got to do a week shout out to Amanda.
You know Amanda from tech Talk Radio, one of our
one of our hosts. She's been a while, she's been
on because she is been embedded in education. She's been
named one of the top thirty it K through twelve
Influencers to Follow for this year. Pretty cool stuff she's

(36:10):
and the write up that she was given an ed
tech magazine. Was an instructional coach at Fontana Unified School
District in California. Amanda is a advocate for game based learning.
She also helped establish the esports team in her district
and is always looking for ways to promote impactful curriculum,
equitable opportunities, and student voices.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
She's also a part time.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Co host on the tech talk radio show So One Influencer.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
So big applause to Amanda. Good job, Amanda.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I talked to her and I said, you got to
come back on the show. She said she wants to.
So we're thinking maybe June show'll stop in and do
a show with us, because.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
It has been a while. But yeah, very very cool.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
And she's been one of those that was watching us
on U stream way back when and then we just
connected with her and you know, she ended up doing
the show.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
With us, So that's very cool. Yeah, that's awesome. All Right,
we'll take another break on.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
We will be back with more of tech Talk Radio.
I'm Andy the Creeper.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I'm Sean Instain Internet in Justin's locations, and I'm Justin
the old guy.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Find us on facebooks, the facebooks, dot com, Ford Slash
tech Talkers. Find us on my Space, Yes, find us
on Fortram. Now back to tech talk Radio. This is
Stephen right, you know listening to tech talk Radio.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, some alung that line.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, I guess that was it.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Alright, let's go with it. I love it.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
I'll say it anyway.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Alright, this is Stephen right, and you're listening to tech
Talk radio.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
But you know I've already been saying that.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I love you, Steven killing Man.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
All Right, we have a listener question from Dave Tucson.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Uh wait in Tucson, David Tucson.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Grammar is a for so I know that it's.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Tucson.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
So this question of Dave is I have been wanting
to record video files off my over the air TV.
I know with the tv O this is possible, at
least it used to be where I could download the clip.
I don't want to have to get the cable. Is
there a solution that can allow me to record over
the air without this cable? So we talked about this
question during the break. I suggested something like win TV.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Oh my god, anybody remember what that is?

Speaker 4 (38:32):
That?

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Sean, your agent, your age is showing.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I had one growing up, and we recorded clips off
the TV. It was basically a p C I I
was even PC Express at that point, and I remember
what it was a GP but it was basically it
basically was an analog and tennant tuner that you could
plug into your your computer and you could record using
a media player or something.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Some of the companies Hog made one, and I also
had the I remembered this one, the a t I
all in Wonder which had a TV on it. Yeah
remember that one. Oh yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
There were several PC Express cards. They still make some.
But Justin then said HD home Run, Yeah, that is
the product. You want to get. Plug it into the antenna.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
You plug it into your computer network with a Cat
five cable or Cat six whatever, and you can then
navigate to it on your computer and record.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
So so to expand upon that, the little HD home
Run is a very tiny little box. I mean, it's
probably the size of your hand. Okay, you're gonna plug
in your over the air antenna tuner into it. Now,
when you plug this device into your network, like just
plug it into your router or your switch whatever, you're
gonna have to find out there's instructions on it. It'll
tell you the instructions, but you basically have to figure

(39:47):
out what the IP address that it pulls from your network.
Let's say one nine, six eight dot zero dot fifteen, Okay, whatever,
You're gonna navigate to that website zero dot fifteen it's
gonna bring it to the HD home Run page. You're
gonna set it up, you're gonna tell it what ZIP
code you live in. It's going to download the data
for all the channels with the names and the guide.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
The program You have to pay for the program guide.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Well some of them you do, so I don't know
how it works recently. I haven't used it in a
couple of years. I know there are some paid program guides.
I think I think the HD home Run will download
the channel data, not the programming data. I think you
do have to pay a very small monthly fee if
you want the programming data. But then what you do

(40:32):
is you get a program on your computer like VLC
media Player, which is free, and within vl VLC media Player,
you're going to file open network stream and you're gonna
type in the IP address of your HD home Run
and you hit enter, and it's going to pull up
all the channels.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
But they actually have their own they actually have their
own application now too.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Oh they do good, okay, okay, So then and it has.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Support for play mb, Jellyfinn, so you can just tie
it into those like just your normal streaming apps. Your
it has an app for TVs. So if you have it,
it's on your network, you can probably see it. You
can stream to your computer, your iPad, your phone, uh,
your computer, et cetera. They have three different versions, home

(41:20):
run Flex Duo which allows you to have two separate
tuners going at the same time, the Flex Squattro four streams,
and then the home run Flex HD.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah. How much is that one?

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Two D bucks?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
But that gives you four tuners, but it allows you
to decode ATSC three point zero.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Oh that's a big thing, all right.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
So that's the big one.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
So you can get newer stations that are running ATSD
three point zero instead of getting their other channels that
are only ATSD two point zero or one.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Now, the company that makes it is called Silicon Dust
dot Com. I guess you can find out on the
website there if you want to buy it. But yeah,
there's a little investment. But that's what we paid for
for a HE one than a TVO. Yeah it is.
And then you have paid TVO. I think you pay
a monthly with TVO, don't you.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, yeah, and you don't have to pay that with
this unless you want the Electronic Programming Guide.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Right, Yeah, that's actually a pretty good idea. That'd be
a way to if you don't want to, you know,
if you want to cut cable. You know, I was
so close to cutting cable and I ended up getting it.
I've called them up to say, hey, listen, you know,
I'm really I'm not liking the bill. It was going
to go up again and I'm already at two seventy, right.
I thought that's just too much. Yeah, So I told her,

(42:32):
you know, I'm paying for this. It's of what TLC, Hallmark,
Hallmark Plus. So I'm paying for this thing called Blast.
And I was told a couple of years ago that
that wasn't even needed anymore because I'm already getting the
higher speeds. But it was me following through. It's my
own fault. So she says to me right off the bat, well,

(42:53):
I can rework this and save you about one hundred
and twenty dollars. She did, one hundred twenty bucks a month.
I'm saving it.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
This is an actual Comcast representative.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, so get in the same internet speeds. They're actually
saving you money, saving me money. And she then said
I can do something better for you. Who is your
phone service provided through? And I told her, and she said, well,
we can bring you over to our mobile service and
I can give you this. This is why Exfinity is

(43:24):
trying really hard to keep its customers, because there's been
kind of an exodus recently. Yeah, she says, I can
give you free mobile service for a year. Wait what Yeah,
considering I've been paying ninety dollars a month, that adds
up to quite a bit. Then after the year's up,
I'll pay forty four dollars. So who does Exfinity write

(43:46):
off of though?

Speaker 3 (43:47):
What towers? They write off?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Horizon woo, So at least that's what I've been led
to believe. So ok, And I thought, let's see, and
I have had no problems traveling between Marie and Green Valley,
being on my device in Green Valley, it's been great.
So your device shows that you're on Comcast. Yes, it
says Infinity Mobile my carrier. And then I said, well,

(44:13):
what if I want to what if I want to
do a second line from my business since our Skype
number is going to be going away, And she said
it's twenty dollars extra, that's it per month.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
That's actually not too bad. I mean, they have really
been making some changes honestly with comcasts, because you're right,
it's been an exodus. I mean with the streaming culture, right, Sean,
do you have cable? No? You have YouTube TV though, right.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, we share, so we piggyback off of Kalon's are
my loss with YouTube TV?

Speaker 3 (44:42):
All right? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Because and because they moved to Kalamazoo, you no longer
have to pay extra because that's within the distance.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
How about the bringing the signal in far as the internet?
How are you getting that high speed connection?

Speaker 4 (44:54):
So fiber?

Speaker 3 (44:56):
So it's fiber, so it's pretty good delivery.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
We have we have, we have Metronet fiber. We're here,
and I get gig up, gigged down.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
I think I paid me too, not eighty bucks a month.
I think I've got quantum, which is Century Link lumen,
and I get about I get I think mine's seventy
five and yeah, well I about eighty bucks, right, and
then I get gig up and down.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
But I mean it's it's crazy. I mean, I really
enjoy our Internet. It's been good. And because it's fiber,
it's not down when the power went out, right, So
all I did was just plugged in my modem. The
modem in my router or in my TV into my
DJA power box and often running me were so Maxican
watches YouTube and not be grabby about it.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
But all right, So now have you guys heard about
MOCA and coffee.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
No, it's MCAA.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I have just been looking into this recently, and I've
been kind of surprised. When I had my house built
the other part of Tucson, we had it built with
Cat five throughout the home, so each room at CAT
five connection, and there was a head in in our closet,
and I had a god one of the really good firewalls,
a hardware firewall we had. It was really a really

(46:10):
well done system. But also also I ran the server
for Gloria's business. She did medical building at the time,
and you know, we had to buy the software and
the whole bit, and I loved it.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Well.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Of course, you know, we moved and the house that
I'm in did not have that, and I missed that.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
So I have.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Tried doing the one line connection from Tepee Link and
that was okay, it wasn't as reliable as I had
hoped for. What we've been using is a tepee Link
now wireless connection, which is a kind of a wireless
bridge to our studio.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
That's okay.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
But now I've heard about Mocha and what it is
is Internet over coacts. Now, if you think about so
many homes now are doing doing the streaming via a
router in their home. A lot of homes are wired
already for co acts, and apparently what it does is
you have one device at one near your router and

(47:03):
the other device near your other room or whatever, and
you can actually do Internet over coacts. I don't know
how fast it is yet. Trend net as US, there's
some other companies that have these devices. I'm trying to
get my hands on one of these so I could
give it a test and see. But think about that,
so many people have had their homes wired for co acts,

(47:24):
they're not even using the co acts now, So this
would be one way to expand the network throughout your
home via.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
The coax connections.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
And it's called Moca and might be something to try out.
Not too expensive too, but two hundred bucks I think.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Or one dred and fifty hundred and ninety bucks and
they're saying it can do two.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
And a half gig.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah, and that's two that's so that's two connections. So
imagine in my situation where we have a we have
a switch, or we have a hub in our studio.
It's all I need being able to come off that line.
So it is really cool. I might just give it
a try and see what we think about it. She
just heard about this, and when I did, it was

(48:05):
kind of like, whoa wait, you could do that? You know,
that would solve a lot of problems because my next
solution was actually going to be to bring a contractor
in and have them wire the house with Cat six
and go that rip route. Everybody's telling me your nuts
just to wireless, but just my experience with wired has
always just been so good. All right, now, justin you
have Google TV, So I wanted to ask you about

(48:27):
the home panel. It's something you haven't seen yet though, right,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
I personally haven't seen it. Yeah, this thing about Google's
home panel where you can control your lights and thermostat
and see your doorbell. I mean I am in a
Google household. Everything I have. I have Google speakers, I
have the Google Nest, I have the Google doorbell. I
mean I have the Google four K streamer on multiple TVs.
I have not seen this Google Home panel. I don't

(48:53):
know what it's about, though, there's talk about this now.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
So you'd be watching your Google TV and you would
be able to to actually bring up the home panel,
and with the home panel, see what your thermostat is
set for, get a doorbell ring, see what the doorbell,
who's at the door, or again, anything else that you'd
want to do. You'd be able to check that out

(49:15):
again with the home panel. And apparently now they're saying
it's rolled out and expanding to actually chrome Cast devices
because now it's Google TV. Chrome Cast has kind of
gone away, but if you have a chrome Cast device,
you'd be able to utilize that with the chrome Cast device.
So either way, it's something to look for, justin I
think you're gonna look that up and see if you

(49:36):
can get that.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
I'm looking at right now. I'm trying to search for
it on the TV right all right? Cool? Well, I've
never seen it though, I don't know. This is interesting
because I would love to be able to see who
is at my door when somebody comes ringing my doorbell,
or you know, change up. Sorry about that, Yeah, yeah, no,
it doesn't it doesn't have it. I don't see it Android,

(49:57):
I see serious exam Google play games, I see buttons.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Is there a play store that maybe you have to
download this?

Speaker 3 (50:05):
This is the play store?

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Oh well, I just don't see it right, the home
pack don't see it unless it's only for TVs that
have Google TVs.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Well, maybe it's for the TV em bed. But this
is the this is their most expensive Google streamer. I mean,
this is the four K Google streamer. I feel like
I feel like we should have this on the most
expensive thing.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
All right, we'll look more into this and maybe we'll
have some more info next week. I've got a question.
I know that justin you saw the movie Minecraft. You
took your son go see it, Sean, have you seen
that one yet?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
No?

Speaker 4 (50:40):
I have not. I just know there's something to do
with chickens.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Chicken chicken Jockey.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Oh yeah, what the heck is with that? They're destroying theaters, right.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's kind of it's a
social media thing. In the movie, there's a scene where
Jack Black has to face off against a child looking
zombie who's writing a chicken and they call him the
chicken Jockey, and Jack Black gets his butt kicked by
this chicken jockey.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
But yeah, kids and even adults now they go to
a movie theater. There was even this one situation where
somebody actually smuggled in a live chicken into a theater. No, no, no,
And when that scene came out, they released the chicken
into the theater and the chicken was flopping all around
the theater and people are throwing popcorn everywhere and just

(51:29):
basically destroying the theater. It got to the point where
Jack Black himself showed up to a Los Angeles area
theater and before the movie started, he came out with
nobody knowing who it was him right, and was like,
it's time for the Minecraft movie. And then like he
was like, and keep in mind, no chicken jockies, and

(51:52):
I am Steve. That's his character, nilty, And everybody went
nuts when they saw Jack Black in the theater. But yeah, anyway,
Minecraft movie actually really really good. All right.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
This new one that came out last couple of weeks ago, Thunderbolts,
which is anybody seeing that one yet?

Speaker 3 (52:11):
No? Nope, nope. It's part of the Marvel series. I
guess Marvel. Marvel is just getting it's just getting.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
But I haven't had time to do anything at home
or anything for myself in the last month.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
I'm not going to the movies. You're not gonna go
to the movies. You should just take a moment and say,
you know what, I'm going out tonight. I'm gonna go
watch a movie by myself. There you go. I like
my life, I know, but you like your mental health too.
Sometimes you just need that chance.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
All right, we gotta take another quick break. We come
back with more of tech Talk Radio.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird, and I'm justin.
Let me find us on x at tech Talk Radio.
We'll be right back and now back to tech talk Radio.
I'm like one trip shy of a free trip, and
I just think it and I may say that a
lot about you. A couple of weeks ago, I took

(53:04):
Eric to the local hobby shop and we just stumbled
across BattleBots, right live BattleBots happening at the hobby store,
except these were miniature BattleBots. However, they did have one
of the actual big BattleBots from the actual show. I
can't remember the name of it though, but it was
one of them anyway, but it was there. There's a

(53:26):
website called bot rumble dot com. Oh, it's a page.
I think it started in Denver, Colorado, but it is okay, yeah,
see my phone is going off on it page rumble. Yeah.
Based in Colorado. Bought Rumble is a combat robotics organization,
but they're trying to spread around. However, even if bot

(53:48):
rumble dot com isn't the site for you, there is
a massive influx of people going and trying out these
miniature battle bots and you can you can buy these
kits that include like the servos and the motors, and
they come in two different styles. You can do like
you can do combat bots, which are actually with weapons,
or you can do pushbots, which are just gonna kind

(54:09):
of push you in the corner. But these miniature bots
are amazing and kids love this kind of stuff. You
can build your own robots. It gets you into like
thinking about three D printing, because you're gonna print the
cases for them, and then you're just gonna put yeah,
you're just gonna put all the electronics inside, and then
you take them to your local hobby stores. And again,
bot Rumble is something local to Colorado, but I guarantee

(54:31):
you there's gonna be plenty of these different sites around
that are doing this. But kids love this kind of stuff.
When I took Eric there, there were so many kids
of his age, eight, nine, ten, eleven years old, and
then there was the adults, you know, thirty forty whatever
years old, and everybody was having such a good time.
Everybody was helping each other out, diagnosing problems with the robots.

(54:54):
It's such a cool thing. Man, give us a website.
Youd dressed once again. Well this one was bot rumbled,
but all right. In over fact, it's just like, look,
look up, look up your local hobby store, see if
they have any battle bots type of organizations in your area.
All right, I love it.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
That wraps up this week's tech talk Radio. If you
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Speaker 3 (55:16):
I'm Andy the.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Creeper, I'm Shonda Weird.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
And I'm Justin, the old guy that searches your name
on rock. We'll see you next time. Have a good one.