Episode 443 - You Oughta Know About AI, Cyber Creeps & Wyze Eyes - TechtalkRadio

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
You're listening to tech Talk Radio and you're gonna.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Learn a lot. Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio.
I'm Andy Taylor.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm sean to weird and a lot.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Happened this week. We talked a little bit about it
last week for Apple and our Apple users. If you're
listening to the show wondering what happened this week, what
is the big takeaway from it? Uh, Sean, you have
an Apple.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Device thirteen pro, so you're able to put.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
This on there. So Apple had their big Worldwide Developers
Conference and they this is where they talk not so
much about hardware, but it's about the software, the operating systems,
everything that's a part of it. And they've kind of
gotten away from their iOS fifteen sixteen seventeen. They just
jumped it all the way to to iOS twenty six right.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah, So I think Apple hates the number nine at
round ten, right. I just think those have been not
good really necessarily good releases for that, like you're trying
to avoid calling it iOS X, right, So I think
just getting back to a you know, staying with gear
makes it a little more simple.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
iOS twenty six, iOS twenty six.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Basically updating all the iOS is so iPad OS twenty six,
mac OS twenty six, which is going to be called
mac OS twenty six, Tahoe, a lot of blue branding,
a lot of blue color Lake branding, Watch OS twenty six, tvOS,
and the Vision OS twenty six. Right, so just updating
all of the OS is to streamline it across all

(01:33):
the platforms, to get everything SYNCD across all your platforms.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
They started with AI.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
They started the keynote with Apple AI and said, yeah,
we're really not doing anything with it right now. Next Wow,
whatever their new chip is for Apple Intelligence will allow
it to do more on device processing of cloud. Right
so the the it won't send it to the cloud.
So it's like a lot more encryption and a lot
more privacy focused. What I took away from this and

(01:59):
as they went through the keynote, they're integrating chat GPT
into a ton of this. Really yeah, Chat GPT is
integrated into the OS in certain applications, in certain in
certain places. Something that also caught me a little bit
by surprise is how open they are making this with
the APIs and the ability for developers to utilize the

(02:20):
AI functionality.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
They're really opening it up.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
App was not necessarily known for doing, is opening up
their platform for third party developers.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
To take to take advantage of that. So that was
just something interesting.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
The other key takeaway was there was a big design
change in terms of like they're calling it liquid glass.
It's design elements fluid glass, like very shiny rounded corners.
As you shift your device basically back and forth, it
reflects the surface, so you can see the light reflecting
differently off the app icons and stuff. So redesigned apps,

(02:54):
updates to the camera app, Safari, the phone app specifically,
some organizational changes, some changes on how you where you
search from, battery management changes. What I thought was interesting
is that iPhone eleven and later all the way back
to iPhone eleven.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Wow, we'll we'll get support for iOS twenty six. It's interesting.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
I downloaded the Developer beta right after the keynote, and
it's interesting. The buttons are now round instead of square.
In some places, the search bar is predominantly always on
the screen at the bottom, which is weird for some places,
like when I'm in the messaging app, always at the
bottom now instead of being swiping.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Down from the top to get to it.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
It's just some uy changes that really impact like how
you use it.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
It's it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's just a lot of people Sean talked about liquid
glass and some compared it to my Windows Vista with
that look. And you've had a chance with the developer
model to take a look at it. I haven't had
a chance to do anything with that yet. Did you
get that feeling that it kind.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Of well, so you remember right with the Windows Vista,
they went to the circle icon, they went to the
circle start menu, they went to they rounded a lot
of the corners of things.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
They made it all.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
I wouldn't say there's direct ties, there's definitely an influence.
The toggle buttons are different shapes, menus open up differently.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's going to be a shocking change for some people.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
A lot of people have talked about the fact that
and I have experienced some of this, not as much
as say maybe Justin has. When it comes to the
camera system that is on like the pixel which I
use currently, that the Apple needed to step up its
game to compete with what Google was doing. Although I've
always thought the camera system on the Apple the you know,

(04:40):
iPhones and the iPads were phenomenal. I thought that they
were great. Have they kind of addressed that and you
mentioned there is going to be kind of a change
to the camera system, but in what respects do we know?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Not necessarily a change in terms of like what the
cameras are capable of. It's just the UI of like
simplifying the UI.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
And if you're watching the video, you can see how
much more simplified this UI is compared to what it
was before. Everything is they're they're utilizing a lot more
transparent backgrounds for menus, so that your background follows through
so it's it's not a translucent background and.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
You're not having a swipe and that.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
But it's like they got they made things more compact
into the middle of the screen.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
They are using up more real estate for the actual
videos portion.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
It's there's there are some significant UI changes and so
in terms of camera functionality, like what it can do,
what it can record, there was no there was no
hardware or mechanical changes, but it's just all UI, all
UI and experience.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
So now interesting. One of the pre you know, when
there was a lot of people speculating what was going
to be announced.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Well not.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
One of the other things that was mentioned was battery life.
So you know, you get an iPhone and you may
notice silver time the battery tens that degrade. It pretty
much happens on most devices. As you use it, you
put more apps and more stuff's running. They said that
there was going to be significant changes to battery life.
You haven't experienced that yet because you just got the

(06:19):
developers addition on there.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, I mean I installed it. I think this morning.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
It's finally installed, and I mean I've gone the whole
day and I'm at nine percent right now.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I'm probably gonna plug it in here in a second.
But that's normal for me. I played a lot of
Cookie Run.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Which is Castle earlier, so I mean I was playing
games with my phone earlier while the Max was played
with Legos.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
We went to bed.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
But that eats up a lot of batteries, so I mean,
it's not an abnormal change. I did notice at first
when I first did it, it got pretty sluggish, and I
was like, oh man, my.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Phone's going to struggle with this.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Oh boy.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Once I did a reboot, it's been fine.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
But if you're used to the way things look, wait,
for a wild update when it comes out. I'm not
sure when it launches, because this was just the keynotes yesday.
Usually it's about three or four months post keynote.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, maybe September or yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
I mean usually it gives the developers a while to
get things straightened out. I haven't found any broken apps yet,
like all my apps seem to be working.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Now, if you want to catch maybe what you missed,
you go to Apple dot com and I believe you
could still watch the conference there where they talk about
some of these significant changes, what liquid glasses and how
they're rounding things and you know, all of that you
should be able to find there. But I don't know,
is this gonna make you maybe designed to upgrade for
the next devices, which could be get announced maybe September October.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
They usually announce the hardware in September. I don't see
a reason for me to, I.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Mean, especially now you go back, right, I have no
reasoned upgrade.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Right, I've got I've got the one terriborted version of
this phone. I have maybe less still less than half full. Right,
there's no reason for me upgrade.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
It's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Interesting to see, you know, uh again there's a lot
of people I know that have moved over to Android
that have said they want to move back to Apple, Well,
how will they you know, how will they react when
they come back? And maybe the interface is a little different.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
In the last decade.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
The thing that I've noticed is how frustrated people get
with technology. And when you toss a new piece of
technology in front of somebody that they use it every day,
They have a routine, they have a way they want
it to look, they have a color they want, and
as soon as you make it not available to them
for that color or that shape or the way they

(08:35):
want it, people get frustrated. And then who do they blame, Well,
they blame the developers. They feel like they're not in
touch with their customer base. Or you have to be
patient with technology. And that's something that I've really I
struggled with when I was younger, with not being so
super patient with technology.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
But as I've kind.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Of worked with technology a lot more in high paced,
high stress environments, I'm probably one of the most patient
people with technology.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Now you respect it, yeah, well, I have to.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
I mean, yeah, it's it's when you're in high stress
live TV environments all the time, and I have been
for a better part of two decades. Now I have
to think of my feet, I have to think on
the fly, and so small little UI changes. Yeah, they
could be frustrating, but it's like, okay, I can see
why they did it right. Yeah, maybe it's better. You
don't know, like you have to give things a chance

(09:23):
before you just throw it out the door and states crap.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Not long ago we commented on Wise and how why
has really been kind of quiet. Wise has been doing
some things in the background, and they sent out an
email this week that they're very overjoyed about and it's
it's kind of a good thing.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Costco.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, getting into Costco, well, you know why is partnered
with I want to say, is it Roku? And Roku
was selling the rise the Wise cameras branded as Roku,
but they're basically Wise, which is good for them. One
of the things they wanted to do. They're they're offices
at Kirkland, Washington, so where Costco was founded. They pass

(10:04):
their offices every day and one of the things they
thought was that's the that's the you know, holy grail
to get into costco because they get their products in
front of everybody could be a good thing for them,
and it looks like they finally have finally done it.
And you actually saw saw some of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yep, I saw it.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
I was like, wait, when did Why is coming to Costco?
I don't need any more cameras? Right, But it's like, oh, good,
good for them, Like that's great. They're gonna get a
ton of traffic. They're gonna get a ton of like
they're gonna sell a ton of cameras at Costco. They've
been in some other big box stores. They've you know,
I've seen him at Home Depot.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, so I'm the best buy for a while out
of nowhere.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
They announced this Costco deal and then earlier this week
they announced a new camera.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I want to find out about the camera, but for
the this new deal that they have in Costco, this
deal is a Floodlight Pro which if you not seen that,
it's basically, you know, three floodlights that can be mounted
over your garage or you know, shed or wherever you
want to have it with a camera that is just
below that. So when that goes off, the motion detection

(11:08):
will also set off the camera, so again you have
that ability to capture what's going on in your driveway,
your backyard, or wherever you decide to put this. I
guess they're selling for under one hundred bucks. That's a
pretty darn good deal. Now, this is CAM four. I noticed.
I had gone online because I was thinking maybe I
could buy one and featured on one of the TV segments.
But there were seventy nine dollars for the Cam two.

(11:30):
So the Camp four is their newest camera, at least
with a floodlight pro. But then you were telling me
they've got something completely different, and I want to get
my hands on one of these.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, this sort was unexpected, right.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
I get the beta invites for a lot of these things,
and I never know what they are, but I can
always guess, right based on the description of what they
want you to do with it, what they want you
to try, where it could be mounted, et cetera. And
I was expecting another like another light bulb or something.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, no, this is.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
A why bulb cam. It is a It is a
camera that has a light bulb. Basically, it's the camera
and then a cylinder with the light in it with
an led in it that has the light.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Bulb screw in it.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
So you can screw this into your light on this
on your garage or on your outdoor shed or whatever,
and then you pull the camera down and so it
can extend below the edge of whatever sconce or whatever
you have in it, and it's there's.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Your it's and it's powered by the bulb itself, by
the light.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, so you just basically leave the light on. You
can set and activate by motion, et cetera, et cetera.
But it also can come with accessory bulbs, meaning you
can pare it to be the camera with the bulb
plus three additional bulbs that look like the can't like,
look like they're a bulb on top of the camera

(12:53):
and tie them together so that it would trigger It
would trigger the other lights to be on at the
same time. If if that one comes on or trigger remotion,
it would trigger the other ones and then all your
other basic triggers. Then basically it's just three bulbs that
look identical.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Right, So it's a cool thing. Is it already available
online on their website if people in order it right now?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yeah, it's the BULBCAM plus one accessory bulb is sixty
five bucks.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
That's a good price.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
And then the BULBCAM Plus the three bulbs is eighty
five bucks.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Sorry for our listeners that decide, Okay, I want to
get home security. I want to have a camera outside.
Some of the things that people have told them is
all you're going to pay through the nose for your monitoring,
because let's face it, there have been some of the
early cameras that came out when you updated and you,
whether it be Ring or some of the other ones,

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you suddenly get where we're paying quite a bit before
you're monitoring. Wise also makes it available so you can
record onto SD but also you can do a cloud
account and it's not that expensive.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, So I pay for the camp Plus unlimited, which
is ninety nine bucks a year, right, and I get
any number. Basically, if I can get a camera, I
could subscribe it to Camplus. Now, I don't subscribe for
the monitor the home monitoring, so like if the alarm
goes off or a trigger's motion, it's gonna call the police.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I don't pay for the data. Right, that's enough for me.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Right, I get the unlimited cloud recording records to the
SD card during events.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
It's satisfied my need.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Now everybody's need or everybody wants is different, but that
price for me is worth it for the one year.
I think I've got eight cameras total. They're not all
plugged in all the time. I move them around. I
put one outside, you know, I've got two of the
outdoor ones which I take when I'm traveling, which is
nice because I can set it up, connect it to.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
My mobile TPE link router.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
It's to my phone and see and it'll record, and
it'll record events if I needed to, like if I
had an issue, or if I wanted to be to
feel a little more secure at my campsite.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
So that to me is okay. I know that a
lot of.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
People, you know, if you're not paying for the product,
you're the product kind of people like, yeah, what are
they doing with your data?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
You're paying for what you get.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Like, if you want high qualities, high you know, super
quality POE powered cameras, go with ubiquity or go with
higher cost vendor. But then you're paying you know, one
hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty bucks a camera.
This is an affordable solution. They look good. I don't know,
I'm satisfied with it.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Again, you can find out more at Wyze dot com.
All right, listener email. We got an email in from
Don in Phoenix, and this kind of ties in pretty
good to our discussion about Apple Too, which I thought
was good. Not Apple Too, but Apple also. It says, hey, crew.
So I was wondering, is there a difference between me

(15:49):
popping into Walgreens and getting a charging cord from my
iPhone or spending more at best Buy and signed Don
in Phoenix? Because yeah, I've been in that situation too,
where like you suddenly are looking at the shelves, you
might see a mark down of a you know, lightning
cord or even USBC you could find there, and I

(16:11):
always say, well that's pretty good. You know, five bucks,
six bucks. You go into you know, a big buck
store that sells them, or an electronics store or even
your phone vendor itself, and you might find you're spending
twenty five bucks on it. Is there a difference in
these cords?

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Do you think there can be?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
I mean, more often than not, the cheap ones are
just here's power there you go.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Some of the more expensive ones might have a smart
chip inside that allows it to change the voltage based
on what you're plugged into.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Right, if it's USBC d USBC and you plug into USBC.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Charger that has variable voltage requirements or you know, can
do you know, twelve volts at two amps or nineteen
volts at whatever the whatever the power ratings are on
some smart plugs, those cords may be able to handle that, right,
So your device is gonna be smart enough to handle it.
It's not gonna hurt you to buy the seven dollar

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k Litt Walgreens.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
If it works, it works right.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
It might not be high quality, and if you have
your car by tear apart, it might break, it might
get beat up relatively quickly.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I've always had success buying like a balcon yeahs, you.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Know, a not a not no name brand, but a
you know, a brand name that's somewhat reliable. And if
you buy like the braided ones that are a little
bit more stiffer. I bought a two pack for me
and k and one for each of our cars, and
they've been in there for a couple of months and
they've been fine. Like if you buy, if you know
the Apple ones, they have that the rubbery material that
they're made out of that breaks down over time, starts

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to crack, as it bends and then you know a
phrase at the end, and then it kind of just
deteriorates after that. So there's no difference in buying from
Walgreens or a big box store. Just the quality. M h,
you're gonna you're gonna get a little bit better quality.
It's just like anything else, right, if if you pay
a couple more bucks, you're gonna get better quality and
if you paid less.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
All right. The other thing though to consider also on
the flip side of that, and we've talked about this before,
if you find one, don't use it.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
If you just yeah, we though, yeah, we've mentioned that before.
Don't don't use other people's USB cables. Take a power
break if you're traveling that you can plug into the wall.
Don't just plug into random USB spots along the airports
or car whatever. Ubers and all that stuff. You never
know who's yagging your data with that, right, because it
takes two seconds for somebody to have a malicious could

(18:30):
be plugging your plug it into a Raspberry Pie that
somebody maliciously putting into that USB port and it's yanking
all your data. So, just just like thumb drives, never
plug random thumb drives into your computer.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Don't plug your phone into random USB ports.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Not good at all. And we didn't get a chance
to ask Justin about that because I know he has
been a Nintendo switch, you know, Fan, I believe his
son has a switch switch to is now out? Uh,
I didn't did you get one? Did you order one?

Speaker 3 (18:58):
No interest? It kind of some people, right, their price
plaint was.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
A little high, a little it was, yes, I think.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
It's five point forty nine.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
For like the Mario Kart bundle, they peeve some people
with some of their user agreement changes. They peeps some
people with their virtual game cartridge right, stuff where if
you buy a virtual game, you have to download the
virtual game cartridge for it to play to work broken.
Some of people's games that have transferred their data over.
The Mario Kart game looks incredible. I'm gonna get a
chance to play it this weekend. My buddy Steve got

(19:28):
one and we're going camping this weekend, I told him
because it's probably gonna rain bringer switch, so we'll probably
play some Mario Kart this weekend.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I'm hoping he gets to the Donkey Kong. I want
to know how that one is because I was always
a big fan of Donkey Kong.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
But I mean, other than that, it's been interesting to
see how the product was delivered because a lot of
people were people delivered Apparently it wasn't Apparently it wasn't
packed very well. Green was face up against the back
of the cardboard right, So like people were reporting, you know,
dings and knicks and stuff in terms of like if
the cardboard box I hit just right, it could break

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the screen.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Or they were stapling invoices to the box.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
That's game stop and in the bag and like stapling
the stapling the receipt to the bag. They were just
stapled to the front of the box. But so when
people opened up their box, there's two little fang marks
in their screen.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
That's now ruined.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Not good.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
It was a game stop in somewhere in Stanon Island,
New York, or somewhere in New York, New Jersey. Yeah,
a dozen or z customers or more, I don't even
know how many. Here's the box, stabled it right to
the box, not thinking anything. No, nobody, who would have
known that, nobody, So there's it's it's it's yeah, why
would you stable to the box? That's silly, but again,

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no fault of the people at game Stop.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
It's just an unfortunate that made really good Internet.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
All right, here's one see we fit one more question
before we go to break. Here from Steven and Tucson,
I'm hoping you might have a solution for me. I
was thinking about putting together a system and wondered, is
it better to partition a large IDE drive, because I mean,
you can get ID drives now Spinney's for pretty good
price into sections or several SSDs.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
If you're using an IDE drive at this point in
your life, get out of technology.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
There's Yeah. I hope it's a typo. I hope he doesn't.
I hope he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
I hope he's just a misunderstanding on the heat built
computers twenty years ago.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Well, yeah, he was the standard.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Please please upgrade to a Stata drive.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
All right, Steven, we're gonna assume that maybe you meant Sata.
All right, So if he's talking about a large STA drive, yeah,
so you're talking.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Okay, Okay, they make sixteen twenty terrible drives now right, Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
I've never I just build one partition for my drives.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, I've never I've never felt a need to partition
it for something different. Now, if you're into virtual machines,
or if you're into that type of stuff where you
need dedicated space for certain virtual machines, then yeah, but
there's there's no reason. Like I've got six drives in

(22:14):
this machine. I think between my games, photos, videos, they're
all just one separate drive.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Aren't you using an ASS as well?

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
I have an ass I've got a four Bay s
Analogy DS two nine something. It's populated with four Western
Digital red four four Western Digital reds, and I think
it's running. I think a total capacity is like ten
terabytes one drive or done, so I can have one
drive fail and get get it back. So, I mean,

(22:42):
if you're I have I backed up all my stuff.
I went through all when I got it I back,
I went through. I literally I documented here's the hard drive,
here's what was on it, Here's what size it was,
here's the serial number. Did I back it up? Yes,
now it's stored. It's in storage. It's just a bin
with all my other drives.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
And yeah, I think I've got about six terribies total
on it.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
So he doesn't need to partition off that SATA or why.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
I mean unless unless another listener that maybe works with
hard drives sees why he should partition it. I mean
Windows and Mac and some linuxes, some Linux builds will
automatically partition drives for certain things. So for like, I've
not ever partitioned it for something other than just ross storage.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
There you go, all right? Coming up, we have got
special guests with us. Selena Fergassi is a music columnist
who has written a book all about Alanis Morisset. It's
called Alana's Thirty Years of Jagged Little Pill. This week
mark the thirty year anniversary of the release of her
album Jagged Little Pill, which has been turned into a
Broadway play, And of course so many songs came off

(23:46):
that album, and we wanted to talk about the passion
of wanting to write a book and how easy is
it really these days with being able to now if
she's been around a long time, she has a couple
other books under her belt, But how easy it is
if you have an idea and a passion you can
write a book about it. Also, Tom Arnold going to
be joining us. Tom Arnold, who is a cybersecurity expert,

(24:08):
is going to talk about the downsides to giving your
kid a tablet, whether it be an iPad or an Android,
and while you're cooking in the kitchen or cleaning giving
them the tablet saying here, go ahead and entertain yourself,
amuse yourself, and why that is so dangerous. So we're
gonna talk to Tom Arnold about that when it comes
to your kids as well. You have kids, I mean,

(24:28):
I've got the grand kid that comes over tablets. Do
you do you use those at all?

Speaker 4 (24:33):
So we've decided as a family unit to not do
any tablets at all.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
There's a small scenario when we're traveling or we're camping, we'll.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Put movies on the iPads that we can watch them
in the camper, so that when Max is getting waited
for bad we can say, here, you can just watch
this little you know, watch this video for a little while.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
But we're not we're not giving it to him in
the car. We're not giving it to.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Him on a on you know, unabated at home where
he doesn't have access to it on his own, and
we think that there are other things he can do
with this time. If we're doing something. He's interested in legos,
he loves puzzles. You can read a book. There are
other things that are just much more mentally stimulating than watching.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
A tablet, absolutely and a lot of parents do that.
So hopefully Tom Arnold will shed some line on why
this is not a good idea that is coming up
their security issues as well for yourself and the family
that we'll talk about with more of tech talk Radio.
I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Seanda.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Where you can find us on the worldwide web, tech
talk radio dot com.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Movie right back now, back to tech talk Radio. Being
a parent, gosh six times over and being a grandparent
is a lot of fun. And you know, we've seen
technology come around. When you know was first a parent,
we really didn't have any kind of super technology, not
like we have today, and that has changed quite a bit.

(25:58):
And with that though, there are also some things to consider.
And Tom Arnold is the author of a book, a
best selling book on Amazon, The Digital Detective First Intervention,
and joined us on tech talk Radio. Tom it's great
to talk to.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
You, Thank you very much, thank you for having me on.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
You know, we've seen technology really grow in the last
you know, twenty twenty five years. But it's also grown
with the dangers that we bring into our homes. And
that is something that you have taken a look at.
You said, something needs to change. Parentcyed to understand.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yeah exactly, And you know it really has evolved. I mean,
the concept of cybercrime in its own right. Back in
nineteen ninety two, when the first Internet sites were starting
to sell things online didn't even exist. It was assumed
that if somebody had a credit card and could give
us a valid credit card, well it must be them, right, Yeah, exactly,

(26:57):
And you know that led to a very famous Peter
Steiner a cartoon in The New Yorker in nineteen ninety
three that says, on the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Good point, right.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
Just the flat out reality both sides. Yeah, the customer
and the merchant, nobody knows you're a dog. The customer
and the person they're communicating with, nobody knows you're a dog.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
If you would now, Tom, you're a cybersecurity expert and
digital forensics educator as well, and you've actually advised the
United States Secret Service on some of these things as
they were learning as well. What made you decide that
you wanted to get into this line of work.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Well, in the earliest days, when I took you back
to nineteen ninety two, friends of mine and colleagues had
this great concept of selling software online and providing digital
downloads of software. It seems very straightforward today, we wouldn't
bat an eye at everything comes that way. Yeah, okay,

(28:02):
But back then it was quite a problem, and it
was quite a problem to you know, you had the
problem of piracy. You'd sell one piece of software, but
that piece of software was used fifty times.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
You had the problem with fraud. You didn't know that
it was a dog you were. You know, you sold
a piece of software thinking you're making money and it's not.
And in my earliest career, way back when I was
a policeman, I actually arrested people for fraud and so
I said, I am going to try to solve that.

(28:33):
Six patents later then all assigned to other companies on
fraud detection and the like. That was sort of the
genesis of getting involved with the earliest days of cybercrime.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
To answer your question, were you still a LEO when
the Internet was growing? I mean, did you still see
fraud or No, they hadn't come about till years later.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
No, I left law enforcement in nineteen eighty six. So
computers were big, they had punch cards to program them,
and all that sort of wonderful stuff. The concept of
the Internet. I did work for NASA during the earliest
days of the ARPINET, and the team that was building
the ARPAET was in my building and I worked in

(29:20):
an ancillary project with them, So Milele Medine and several
people I could name that were doing the ARPINET, which
of course evolved into the Internet.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Now, Tom, I know that you decided to put together
the Digital Detective first intervention after having an experience where
you didn't think it was all that dangerous and then
you found out a little differently.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Yeah, there were really sort of two events that came
up that caused me to think about a better way
to educate. One is I've been teaching at University in Nevada,
Las Vegas and at cal State University at the time,
and I've always been, you know, teaching the topic of cybercrime,
cybercrime detection, those sorts of things, and a lot of

(30:06):
times I felt that I was shouting at a wall.
And so the concept evolved when roughly two and a
half years ago, now, my seven year old grandson was
playing a very popular video game. Now, both of his
parents are very high in the cybersecurity field. One of
them is a director for one of the big companies

(30:28):
in Washington in Washington State in cybersecurity, and the other
one is well educated in cybersecurity as well. So all
the parental controls were active on this game. And it's
really not the fault the game. But if you think
about it, what makes cybercrimes so unique is the ability
of a criminal to look orthogonally at a problem to

(30:50):
solve it. And in this situation, during the game, an
avatar appeared to my grandson held up a sign that said,
what's your name? And where are you? Wow? Holding up
a sign?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Okay, And you know who would have thunk at that
point in time. Now, my grandson was smart enough to
run to mom at that point because they had a
very close bonded relationship and Mom's not going to get
pissed off at the kid. You know, this is not
necessarily the kid's fault, and it's a game that is
really commonly used. So that was the number one event

(31:27):
that I said, hmmm, how do I try to get
that bond between parents their children over cybersecurity. The next
event that took place that led me to start the
Digital Detective was basically another family We're at a Halloween
sort of family gathering sort of thingy. She makes the

(31:49):
comment to me that she finds it easier to talk
to her kids about sex than cybersecurity. Wow, and I thought, okay,
he was needed here, absolutely. So my concept was to
develop a story, develop characters that might be likable by

(32:11):
the kids, and to build a book structure that was
a nine and over reader sort of a first chapter reader.
So it's a first chapter reader. You know, it's pretty
big in size physical size, but it's all double space,
so it makes it really easy and believe it or not,
you know, I would say eighty percent of the reviews.

(32:31):
There's forty reviews on Amazon right now on it, and
if you read those, they love the fact that it's
double space for their old tired eyes.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
That's perfect.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
I think, Okay, that's not my primary audience, but.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
It's like, that's not where I was going, But hey,
that's good where I'm going.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
You know, if I'm educating the parents and the grandparents.
That's okay if I try to tie. My objective is
really to try to tighten that bond with the kids
and help educate the kids. The kids find it fun
reading about the topics, and so the book really is
an introduction to the digital detective, a fourteen year old
hero and a fourteen year old heroin as well with

(33:13):
him a real powerful girl. And so there they end
up taking on cyber terrorism, which is a category that
is way out there. Okay. The next story, which I
hope to have out in January is believe it or not,
I'm going to try to do it as lightly as
I can, is going to take on sex stores and
human trafficking.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, something we don't like to talk about that, but
the fact is it happens, and it happens every day.
Oh yeah. That if somebody can find a way to
make money off somebody else's downfall, they will, And that's
absolutely yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
Oh boy no, And it's almost like an extension of
cyber bullying. I'm sorry to talk over you there, but
no of cyber bullying. You know, there's two other concepts
that I'm really trying to profess, and that is that
there's two different things you have friends online, and in
one of your earlier shows you actually talked about this.

(34:08):
You're in a chat group on Instagram with your five
known friends. Yep, it's really them. That's friends online. Then
there's this thing called online friends. You're in a larger forum.
Call it TikTok, call it whatever you want, It doesn't
matter the tool. Yeah, but you're in a much larger forum,
and people who profess to be your friends are online

(34:30):
with you. You have no actual idea as to who
they actually are. Now, both groups can be very dangerous.
In the friends online, where you know everybody, you don't
know if one of the friends' computers or mobile phones
has been taken over by someone else, and that someone
else is actually behaving like them online.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
You don't know that I have assumed their identity. Possibly
that's correct.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
You assume they're a friend online friends, you have to
believe that they're strangers. So when I see in a
restaurant the parents doling out the iPads to the kids
to keep them quiet at the dinner table during the
restaurant meal, I really have to think about this and go.
You know, there's a similarity to my own childhood. When

(35:19):
I was a kid and my mom wanted to go
to the grocery store for an hour. She would drop
me off at a park and say, go have fun. Well,
I go to the store and when the street lights
turn on, come home for dinner.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I think a lot of us went through that time.
Oh absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Standard in the sixties, okay, but nowadays, no parent would
do that.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Even just riding your bike around the street, you wouldn't
even do that.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
So same thing handing out the iPads. It's kind of
the virtual playground.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
So you're putting it a kin to, you know, giving
your kid a tablet. You say, okay, here, I've got.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
To go do the dish.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, I've got to go put the groceries away or whatnot.
And then that's like sending him to the playground and
just saying here, go go ahead. But we wouldn't even
think about doing that today, correct, Wow, And it is
it is dangerous and a lot of you know, we've
talked about smartphones because we think of phones, we think
of communication. But within the games, within some of the

(36:27):
apps that are available on our tablets or iPads or whatnot,
there is that communication process that some parents, grandparents, aunts
and uncles that are maybe watching younger. Younger kids have
no idea that people can communicate. I do words with friends.
People send me no notifications on that. Now they don't
know how old I am. So again, people can still

(36:51):
communicate within some of these games.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
Yeah, you can create a complete sort of false identity
of yourself. And that's why I refer to them as avatars.
It's an avatar of you. It doesn't mean that you're
doing something wrong. I mean, that's sort of the intent.
Here's my avatar. Okay, it's my alter ego. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
When we had Tatiana Jordan on talking about her bark
technologies and stuff, we think about parental controls. Justin uses
one of those services as well. That is not the
end all, is it.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
No, what's my point about holding up the sun? Yeah,
you're talking about an avatar in a game who's going
to hold up a sign, which is an alloud sort
of feature of the game.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Well, now, Tom, what can parents do? Obviously they can
get the digital Detective the first intervention this and this
is not just for parents. This is really for, as
you mentioned, for people of all ages to kind of understand,
because it can be a little daunting. I've talked with
a lot of you know, our listeners that have called
in the radio station when I'm when I'm here, that

(38:02):
have said, you know, I don't I don't understand it.
You know, how do you explain it? What can a
parent or somebody that is a caregiver do to help
understand this.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
I think there's a few major points in this. Even
though you, yourself or the person themselves, the parent may
not be you know, super technically adepts if you would,
I think private information is still private information and still
sort of teaching kids what that term actually means. Okay,

(38:39):
it can mean the name of the family dog, that
can be utilized by a bullier who wants to bully someone. Okay,
all of that information gets built up. So maintaining private
information private and sort of always enforcing the kids what
exactly that is. It's not just you name and password,

(39:01):
it's not just their name and address. It's much more
than that, and they have to really be conscious of that.
If they're on a game or in a chat session,
what sort of information they release into the chat session. Oh,
my family, we're all away on a vacation. It's so boring,
my parents, blah blah, blah, and what a boring time.

(39:22):
I'm happy all my buddies here. You know, all of
those things can be used against someone. So the second
one is definitely be careful the type of information that
they actually release, even if they're upset. The third thing
I think is major and where technology is concerned. I

(39:42):
actually believe that the parents and the kids have to
have an agreement between them that this is open territory
for them to talk in. The parents are not going
to overreact, okay, and in turn, the kid's not going
to try to hide things necessarily, so if something bad
shows up. I mean, artificial intelligence today is a whole

(40:04):
other topic as to how it's affecting things like sextortion.
You're able to actually build images that really do look
like the person, yeah, and use that for sextortion. If
the kids know that they didn't pose for that picture
and they didn't do that, and going to mom and
dad is extremely important, and it's tough as a parent

(40:27):
to maintain that calm so that you don't destroy that
relationship that brought it to your attention, that's now protecting
your kid.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
It was the point, Well, Tom, I want to say
something too, and I've thought about this as well. You know,
we as parents tend to share a lot sometimes on
We'll just use one of the biggest ones, of course Facebook,
in Instagram, but of course you may share on Snap
or whatever. But when the parents share this information on

(40:59):
social media, those that you know, stranger danger that want
to do harm and want to bring kids in or
find kids to traffic, they can use that information. Oh look,
they lost a dog back some years ago. Let's talk
about how I lived down the street and I remember
their dog, and they create they create that that that bond,

(41:22):
that bond with that child, and suddenly the child thinks
it's a friend that knew mom and dad and has
been around for a while. That information we put as
parents online can also be dangerous for our children.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Absolutely true. And don't underestimate the fact that the parents
are at risk as well by themselves. We're talking about kids, okay,
and the bond with kids okay, because they're neophytes in
the woods. There's a significant percentage of neophytes in the
woods that are also parents, true, which is also you know,

(41:56):
a challenge. I guess. The final thing to state is
saying close to what's happening in general as far as
the games and making certain parental controls are extremely important,
and having those controls up, knowing how to reach the
game provider in some way, shape or form, knowing that

(42:18):
video game, video game, I call them video games, but
games can actually be used to recruit people for fringe organizations.
It's well documented that al Qaida even uses this.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
YEP, cartels have been using them as well.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
Cartels use it, and right wing groups are just as
bad the fringe groups on either side. Okay, So having
to sort of educate the kids to this so they
don't get pulled into that situation as a whole another problem,
and that's what they need to keep up on as
sort of my fourth.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Well, I'll tell you what, Tom, this has been a
great discussion. I want our listeners to check it out,
The Digital Detective First Intervention. I want to get you
back on the show again because really you provide so much
great information and I definitely want to check out the
book available on Amazon. Tom Arnold, thank you so much
for coming on Tech Talk Radio.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
And Hey, thank you very much for having me on. Today.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
We will be back with Selena Fergasi, an author who's
written a great book about a lot us more set.
That's standing by on tech Talk Radio. And now back
to tech talk Radio. All right, people pick out your
notebooks and pencils and trib roles.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
You're listening to to tech Talk Radio with true geeks.
And by the way, I'm beast Eider and I'm a geek.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Though we've had many people over the years that have
told us I how to write a book, we tell
them you should go for it. It's I think it's
been Honestly, I think it's been made a lot easier
to put your your passion, to put your ideas to
paper or to digital then it has been in the past.

(43:54):
And writing a book is I think a lot easier,
not only to get that book pub but also to
get that book seen. Before the internet, if you had
a book, you went to one of the big you know, publishers.
You went there and you told them, you know, here's
my book idea. They saw how viable it would be,
and then they would send it off to Walden Books

(44:15):
or get it into bookstores. You only found out about
it by generally reading a paper or stopping into a
bookstore and finding that. And there are so many different
books about different passions that people have and one of
those that I think a lot of us all share
is the passion of music. And Selena Fergossi is an

(44:36):
author who has been a music columnist for so many years,
has decided to put together a book about a lot
of moreris set. It's called a Lot of thirty Years
of Jagged Little Pill and joined us here on tech
Talk Radio. Selena, great to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, you was well, Thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Now what made you decide to put together a book
about a lot of us more set.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
She's been one of my favorites since I was a
teenager and when I was looking up big milestones that
were coming up in the future. This was a couple
of years ago. I saw that Jack a Little Pill
was turning thirty, and first I couldn't believe it in
thirty years. But then I was obsessed with having to
write this book, and I put a pitch together for
my publisher and here we are.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
What will we find in this book that you've put together,
which is now at Amazon dot Com and at bookstores.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah, I really take a deep dive into this album,
in particular, Jagged Little Pill obviously her biggest album she's
ever had that sold thirty three million copies worldwide. I
really dive into how this album was made Alanis's pop
star past and how that kind of developed turned away
for what she did on Jacked Little Pill, her really
amazing collaborator, Glenn Ballad, of trying to get any record

(45:45):
label to pay attention to her, and it really wasn't
until Madonna came along. As well as how this album
became just such a huge part of the cultural zeitgeist
in the nineties and what it meant to so many people.
In addition to that, I talk about the Broadway play
that was based on the album and all the other
big points in Alans's career as well.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
When you look at some of the artists today like
Taylor Swift or Olivia Rodrigo, how do they differ from
Alana's and how you know, her upcoming upcoming you know,
hit status became.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
I think there's actually a really strong through line of
what Alanis did and how that begat the Taylor's and
the Olivia's. In fact, in the book, I have quotes
from each of them where they talk about how impactful
Alantis was to their own career, and they really pay
homage to her kind of opening up the gates for
confessional singer songwriters. I think nowadays it's a bit more accepted,

(46:35):
it's applauded. In Alantis's day, it was not. She really had.
She struggled to get people to pay attention and to
respect her craft.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Well, it was very tough. I think for female artists.
I have a feeling that that's been made easier because
of movements that alanis more you know made.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think really, you know, Atlantis of
course wasn't the first. There were incredible female singer songwriters
before her in the nineties like Tree, mimus Let's Sair PJ. Harvey.
But I think with Alani's she really made it more commercial,
she made it accessible, and I really do link that
back to her pop star pass of creating the song
she did that had the rawness but also the commercialness,
and so I think, you know, we're seeing that really

(47:14):
with today's genre of singer generation of singer songwriters, but
Alana's she really kind of set the pathway for them.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
When putting this book together, Selena, it's Alana's thirty years
of Jagged Little Pill. Did you talk to fans or
maybe some of the fan base that is out there,
because I know there are there are fan groups, there
are discussion groups on Reddit and of course social media.
Did you talk to some of them to find out
like why they were attracted to her music and which

(47:41):
ones really rang truth for them?

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Absolutely, I definitely looked at a ton of Reddit boards
and social media to kind of get the pulse on,
you know, what, how Alanus is perceived today and even
like what I could dig up in terms of video
interviews there. MTV did a few fan videos of what
Alanta's meant people back in the nineties, and they were
all really poignant, and I think for my book in particular,
I interviewed several colleagues of mine, female music journalist about

(48:08):
their thoughts on Atlanta and they were fans as well,
and the impacts of this album, and so there's a
lot of really insightful perspectives beyond just my own in
this book.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Well, plus, you've put together some really really cool photos,
some of these that are rarely seen. In putting this together,
that had to be being a fan yourself of Atlanta,
So they had to be kind of a lot of
fun to go through and decide, Okay, we're gonna put
this in, put this in. But then you get to
a point you go, oh gosh, maybe I'll do a
second book. How do you decide like, yeah, yeah, how

(48:37):
do you decide like what to include in it?

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:39):
I have to give big props to the team at
my publisher's quarto they put together to the design of
the book. I absolutely love what they did, including that cover.
It's just it's a total road map. It's a you know,
magic eye kind of. It's an incredible cover. I highly
suggest people check that out and in itself before digging
into the book. But you know, they kind of we

(49:00):
through the photos together and just made sure that it
was really representative of what was being talked about in
the book. And like you said, some photos that you
know are kind of rarer. But I think there could
be so many follow ups on this topic. For sure.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Do you have a song, Selena that kind of like mine?
I'll be honest, My favorite has got to be ironic.
Do you have a favorite that stand out for you?

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I do, you know? And it's changed since doing this book.
I think I probably would have said you want to know,
like many people before writing this book. After writing this book,
my favorite is right through you. And I'll tell you why.
It's because that song actually, to me has the most
passionate delivery and songwriting even more than you want to know.
Everyone kind of pins you how to know is crazy

(49:42):
out of the canon songs, but right through you. She
really takes record label executives, the male record label executives,
attack who didn't want to find her, who dismissed her,
who wanted to change her, or just think of her
as you know, a trophy. And it's an incredible song
that just really shows the power of her songwriting.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Now, you have been writing for many years. You have
you know, bylines that have been in spin. You've interviewed
so many artists, everybody from Gosh, Debbie, Harry, Jack White,
the Black Keys, and many others. When somebody says, hey,
I want to come up with a book, what advice
would you give them they want to maybe follow the
path that you're following.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
That's a great question. I would say, believe in yourself.
I think everyone gets imposter syndrome or thinks that they
can't do it. It is a daunting task to write
a book. I won't you know, sugarcoat it, but it
is so rewarding in that end, and I think you know,
if you are really passionate about a topic, that will
come through in the writing. And the other piece of
advice I would say is plan ahead and take your
time writing a book and not something even do in

(50:39):
a short window. So really kind of do it every
single day and get you'll get it done towards them.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
And what about getting to the publisher? Was that was
that a bit of a challenge for you or did
you have that set up before you really started putting.
I'm going to say pen to paper, but I know
that's not how it works anymore.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Actually I had a relationship with this publisher before the
Atlantis book. I have two other books out previous and
they actually approached me and so we had book this relationship.
But with every book I want to do, I have
to give a very detailed pitch to them. So you
kind of have to sell the story for someone else
to care about it and give you the green light.
So really that's where that kind of passion comes in.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
All right, given that this book is now available, matter
of fact, it came out earlier this week, and then
it's also the anniversary back in nineteen ninety five of
the release of Jagged Little Pill. So it's a big week.
Have you been able to get word back from Alanis
as far as how she's felt about the book as
she's been able to preread it.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Her teen does have copies. They requested it and I
haven't heard back since. So I hope she likes it.
I hope she really, you know, takes it in the
intent it was, which was to celebrate her and this
incredible album that is still so renate so much with
so many people, including myself.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Well, I have a feeling that she really will and
our listeners can definitely check this out. It's available on
Amazon dot com, It's in the bookstores. Alanis thirty years
of Jagged Little Pill. So, Lena Fergotci, thank you so
much for coming on the show and some great advice
though for those budding writers out there and for those
that love music, they definitely want to check this one out.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Thank you again, Thank you so much, Andy, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
We'll have more of tech Talk Radio. Find us on
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Speaker 5 (52:22):
And now back to Tech Talk Radio.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Hey, this is Harold Parano, and you listen to the
geeks on the radio Tech Talk Radio.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
We were supposed to have this week on the show,
the filmmakers behind a brand new documentary called Going Postal
The Legacy Foretold. And I know you tried the game.
You tried what the latest one? Did you do the
original when it came out?

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Yeah, I mean I think Justin and I had played
it together at some point. It's just one of those
quirky shooter games.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
It really is first person shooter game, but it at
the time it's one everybody was talking about some of
the violence and video games and how bad it was.
And Vince it's Deisi who is from Tucson as a
matter of fact, who had his offices based here. They
were interviewed. Even put out a movie. I don't know
if you know that, there's a movie called Postal, and

(53:11):
it was I went to the premiere of it. It
wasn't one of the greatest films of all time. But
his company, Running with Scissors put this game out. And
it's cool because Rick Hunter is a friend of mine. Actually,
three of the voices we know, Corey Cruz, Rick Hunter,
and John Saint James of course, the voice of Duke
nukam Our voices in the most recent Postal game. I

(53:32):
asked Rick if he's in the documentary and he said, yeah,
I am. He said it was taped about a half
a year and a half ago and he had an
eighteen hundreds mustache. He said with a curly he said,
I look like an idiot either way. The movie is
now available for you to check out on Apple and Amazon.
You could rent it there. I believe it's out on
Blu Ray as well, so if you want to find
it you could do that. Just do a search for

(53:54):
Going Postal. But hopefully we'll get the filmmakers on so
that they could talk about this. I don't know if
there's any still photos of us from because we broadcast
from the screening of the movie, so I mean there.
We could always end up in there because we were
out there broadcasting live, So that could be pretty cool.
Speaking of movies, Happy Gilmore too. The trailer is out

(54:17):
the movie with Adams Sendler. It's gonna be good. The
movie will be out July twenty fifth on Netflix.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Speaking of movies and TV shows, Yeah, learned something very interesting.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Did you ever watch Firefly.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Firefly, Firefly, yeah with oh what's his name?

Speaker 5 (54:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Disney Plus is putting out new episodes this fall.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
So they're going into production and making new ones.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
My understanding is that it's gonna be this fall Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Will Nathan Fillion be back?

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Oh I like it, taking a break from the rookie Yes.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
So I thought that was pretty interesting. So it's it's
all on the internet, so it's got to be true.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
All right, Sure, we'll keep an eye out for that one.
That's it for this week's tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
I'm seond word.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
You can send us an X at tech talk Radio.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Oh wait a minute, Wait a minute, hold on, hold on.
Tomorrow's Father's Day. So Happy Father's Day to you, dad.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Happy Father's Day to me, Happy Father's Day to you,
and Happy Father's d to all the other great, wonderful
father's out there.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
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