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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm gonna come. I'm gonna come. I'm gonna come. I'm
gonna come, I'm gonna come.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
What are you gonna get?

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Who sees people don't trust China? China is ass you
want you want.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
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I'm gonna come. Come, Come, Come, Come Come.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
You're burrito. Hello lord, Welcome to a terrible person, formally,
how to become a terrible person. My name is Christopher.
I'm joined today by Katalina. Like the dressing, like the hello,
it's it's the Thousand Island Podcasts with Catalina.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
But without the relish.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Is that what Catalina is?

Speaker 4 (00:56):
No, no, no, no, no, that's Russian.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Russian dressing is just what like.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Thousand Island but without the relish and.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
All dressings, you know, like pretty much like all dressings
and all sauces are just fucking like catch up and
like and mustard and like it's just a combination of that.
Weird when you.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Realize that kind of like aoli is really just a
word for.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Fancy mayo mayonnaise, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Fancy mayo with some flavor infusions.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
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dot terrible person dot Coe just talk over the website.
It's fine, Kaitlin, do it again.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
I can do it again.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
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you go, terrible person dot co or find us on
Patreon sign up for the premium for as long as
it lasts.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Guys, Yeah, Grant's kicking me off the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
No, we we had a we had a discussion that
needed to be had, probably for a lot longer than
we I don't know, it's some it's it's something that
just came to my, uh conscious mind. And you you
understand what I'm saying, right. We don't need to get
into it here, but you get my reticence. Yes, yes,

(02:13):
So anyway, who knows, We'll see, We'll see the podcast
maybe dead soon. This could be it. I've been calling
it for years. I've said this last episode pretty much
every time we've recorded for the past five years.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Ever since I started. No, like this is gonna be
the last episode.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Uh man, Foxy Noxy is in my brain this week,
Amanda Knox.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, she's uh.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I feel bad for you know, would be awesome to
find out, like when you get to heaven and you
ask all the questions that you you know, if that's
how heaven works. Really, who did nine to eleven? Who
was actually shooting in Las Vegas? I would be like,
who did Amanda Knox have anything to do with the
roommate's death? Then you find out, yes, she actually killed her.

(03:03):
I don't know. I've been that show with Shylene Shane, Shanaylee,
Shane Lee Woodling, Shane Ling wood Thing. She's pretty good
amandon Ox. She is when you see the real Amandon
Ox and you see Shalne Woodley doing her Amandonox impression. Also,
how is it that Shlee Woodley can just be like
twenty years.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Old in everything because she just has that face.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
She just is she She's a vampire.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
She is She's I was thinking about that too.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
I was like, she's got how old is Shanlee Woodley?

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Probably like thirty five? Yeah, So I was like thinking,
I'm like, does she get both talks? I feel like
she gets a little bit of boat talks because she
still can move her face a lot. But it's like
you would think that it would be a little bit
deeper just because she isn't an expressive person. Given her
choice of career.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, it's wild that she is. She is constantly playing
nineteen twenty years old.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Good for her.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
She's like the eternal teenager. She's always going to be
Secret Life of American Teenager?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Is that what she was on? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:09):
I think that was a her.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Like her first big Like is that where her and
Aaron Rodgers met?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Totally. No, I don't know where they met. I think
didn't they meet at some like gala from.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
That's always confusing to me when you see a celebrity
who's dating an athlete, How did they meet?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
How was that weird? I mean, just how did it happen?
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
What I know?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
In what world does that happen?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Because he came to her concert and he gave her
a bracelet?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
I think something?

Speaker 3 (04:47):
But here's the thing is before Yeah, okay, think of
it this way. If that's true. Yeah, that would be
like some mid level NFL player going to a Taylor
Swift concert, who's the biggest star in the world, and
being like, I think you're cool. I think you're really cool.
Here's a bracelet that you this is your thing. I'm

(05:07):
doing your thing. I'm nobody. I'm like not before Travis
kelcey data, Taylor Swift. It's safe to say nobody really
knew or cared who Travis kelce was. Right, he was
a super Bowl kind.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Of had a little bit of yeah, because he did
win a Super Bowl the year.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Before, But in terms of cultural relevance, he was just
one of those guys who was gonna end up owning
like six car dealerships in Kansas City. Hi, I'm Travis
Kelce and are you looking for a certified pre owned
forward vehicle to drive?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, it's a slam dunk, Yeah, I Kelsey Kelsey BMW.
That's that was his trajectory. He was gonna his hip
or knee was gonna give out shoulder, who knows something,
and then he was gonna retire, make a ton of
money and then just open up either like a franchise

(06:01):
of like Canes Chicken restaurants or fucking car dealerships. Yeah,
before ultimately shooting himself in his chest with his shotgun
to preserve his brain so they could study it for
CTE damage.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Well, it could still happen, so never saying ever, I
mean I used.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
To joke around and say Kanye West and Kim Kardashian
were the new OJ and Nicole. But but what if
it could happen. That's like some ultimate deep state five
D Chess style shit.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
I do wonder, like how long they'll realistically stay together? Yeah,
Like do you think it'll be a foreverything?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
You know what, I don't like Taylor Swift and I
don't really care for Travis Kelsey. But I hope I
hope they do last. That would be that that would
be sweet good for them, you know what I mean,
Like anytime somebody gets engaged or married, you're like, man,
I hope that works out.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I've never seen somebody where I've been like, oh, man,
I genuinely hope that fails.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
No.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Yeah, no, I don't think i've ever I mean unless
they're like a total asshole Jared Vogel, I mean you
don't know them personally. I thought you were talking about
like people.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh no, I mean like famous people. I can't think
of a famous person that's even gotten engaged where I've
been like, oh, I hope that fails. No, because like
that's just bad juju, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
No, she is because usually if I don't like a celebrity,
I don't think about them or care about them enough
to like say shit like that. I also don't like
Taylor Swift, and yeah, I feel like we do spend
a lot of time talking shit on her. But whatever,
here's the reason I don't kind of like burnt out
on my hate for her.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
It's same. I'm I'm overthinking about Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
That is that my mind occupies too much yeah time,
and she doesn't.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
The best thing is is lately, Lately, the last the
last couple of months for me, has occupied point zero
zero zero zero one percent of my brain. Yeah, which
is a vast difference from life twelve years of my
life where it was Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift,
Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Because it was forced for every day just because of.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, I mean, it's just.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
For pop. It was it pop? Is that what you
call it?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Pop pop radio, pop show. Yeah, you know what. It's
about time?

Speaker 4 (08:23):
No, who are you calling?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
It's about time?

Speaker 4 (08:26):
No are you calling? And who are you calling?

Speaker 2 (08:31):
No?

Speaker 4 (08:32):
I don't like surprises, you don't know. I hate this ship.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
No way.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Hey, I was just I was just making sure my
phone still works because I haven't received any calls from
you lately.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
What are you talking when I was the last person
to reach out?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, you were, you were, you were, you were. You're
on a Terrible Person podcast, by the way. We just
you've been ambushed.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
How's how's life post Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's engagement.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I just I had to ask you, well, you know what,
it's kind of funny, but it's kind of consumed me
a little bit, or quite a bit. I don't think
you can consume me a little bit. You consume me
a lot.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
What I mean, how do you like in a positive way?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
In a positive way? Grant? I don't know if this
fits the vibe of terrible person, but I think the
world needed some good news. Nf'll do something that we
could all wrap our arms around, some fun pot. You're
just happy for this person she called. She called the
show when she was sixteen years old. You called our show,
and she was sixteen. She's thirty five now, and so

(09:32):
we've watched her grow up. So it's like, you know,
you got a little sister, Yeah, and you see her
grow up and it's not really happy.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Well, it's like Kate and I. Kate and I have
had a pretty notable disdain for Taylor Swift in general.
But I just said, I was like, you know, when
you heard they got engaged, it's neither one of us
want that marriage to fail. We want them to go forever.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Like that's why do you guys have a disdain?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I think it's it's oversaturation, John, It's you know what
I mean, It's just I think I think that's that's
the rub is. It's just it's just too much. But yeah,
you know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I was thinking about you today and I was thinking
about you, like when's the next time I'm gonna see
Gret And I thought, I'm not gonna gonna see you,
I'm gonna hugg you. And I thought, I'm just gonna
be a little extra longer hug because I miss.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
That's so sweet. Yeah, I think I think about you
guys all the time. It's this is nice. This is
a nice little reunion.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
It is you are missed, my friends.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I I you know what's funny is in my in
my new position, I'm I'm I have to tell you this.
I am screening, screening some calls and They're like, we've
never seen it done this way before, and I was like,
well I've learned from the best, and like what they've
never seen before is just somebody's screaming at people on
the phone.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Basically, let me get it straight. So you've got another job.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm donating plasma right down
the streets from the radio station. It's a pretty good gig.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well. You know what's funny, dude, is I miss like
coming in in the morning and you dropping knowledge on
some new documentary. It just dropped because there's so many
documentaries that have dropped that, Like did you watch the
one with the freaking catfish one? Oh?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, of course, were the mom? I knew you did
the day it came out, Dude.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, I remember, like, like the twist is it's the mom,
But but we knew that from the news already.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Oh see, I was totally I'd forgotten all about that story.
I remember the girl's face, but I'd totally forgotten it.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Was the mom. Oh, I just remember it being the
news and I was like, I bet your grandson wasn't seeing.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
The footage of the mom realizing that she got caught amazing,
Like I have.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I watched for ten minutes of it. I was like, wait,
this is the one where the mom is the person.
Oh stopped it.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Oh my god. When they when the bodycam footage they showed,
they sit her down and they say, uh, Deborah, whatever
we we it's your phone. We know it's you. And
then she kind of looks at the cop and then
she decides all right, I'm just gonna admit everything. And
then they show literally they show her sitting down with
They were like, let's bring your ter in. They called
the daughter in. The daughter sits down and she tells

(12:04):
that it was me. The cop does and then they're like,
let's get your dad on the phone. And then this
is all on bodycamp. You have to see this part.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
And then the dad is like uh he he he
tells him and he's at work. He's like, I'll come
home now and he basically they show him telling her
to get out of the house. It's amazing. You gotta
see it. You gotta watch it. I mean, it's probably you.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Would have said that to me a week ago. I
probably would have watched it. Dude.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
You could text you Yeah, yeah, I tried to. I
tried to dupe your call screener the other day, and
you're the call screener you hired to replace me or
Nick is much they I basically gave a sure thing
call to get on the John Jay and Rich show,
and she saw through it and screened me.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Can I tell you.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
You No, I don't. I don't know, but I think
it was in the middle of the day. You're you're
doing a big giveaway. And I called and got through
and I said, hey, listen, I just want to think
because I know I know what gets on I know
what gets on the air John Jay, I figured it out.
But everything got on the air. Yeah, no, but this this,
I was like, all right, so I want to say

(13:09):
thank you to John Jay, right, I want to. I
want to make it a point to say thank you
for And she was like, oh for what? And I said,
I bought a red light laser hat and I was
completely bald six months ago, and I said, surely this
will make it on the John Jay and riche And
then I was like, I was like, my name is
Trevor Or something. I was like, as soon as they answer,

(13:30):
I'm gonna be like gotcha boom. But she got me.
She's too good. I don't know. I think I think
you guys were just busy or like recording something.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Okay, so it was like, okay, no, but.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
She a plus a good higher but hold on, hold on, hold.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
On, hold on. She wasn't hired to replace you. She
just does phones. That's all she does.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Damn, that's all she does.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Is just answer phones. Nobody's replaced you. You did, you
did like forty different things.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Well, she's she's a great screener. I gotta tell you that,
A plus good personality.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Nice, keep on en if you hang up.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, is that the problem?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I guess. So Trevor never got through. I never heard
about the lazer.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, I think she heard like me trying to figure
it out in my head because I wasn't expecting an
answer because it was, you know, contest time.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
So anyway, I was going to tell you too. I
saw you guys go to Vegas. How was that? What
was that?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Oh my god, dude, we went back to Vegas. We
had we had a five star Vegas trip so much
so John Jay you'll appreciate this. You know my history
with Blue Man Group, and yeah, so we were sitting there,
we went to this haunting Museum did this whole thing
and saw met go saw this stuff, and I was like, Kate,
I'm gonna get us tickets to Blue Man Group, uh,

(14:40):
because they're on sale. So I bought us front row
center tickets to Blue Man Group, and I proceeded to
eat about two and a half grams of mushrooms and
then oh dude, yeah, and then check this out. They
start the show, they come out and Kate's like, this
is this is great, this is crazy. And then all
of a sudden, they all walk out and they're standing
staring at me, high on mushrooms, high like crazy hallucination,

(15:04):
and I'm just staring making eye contact with the blue man.
They get a camera out, they put the camera in
my mouth and do the hole going down in my
intestine bit. Yeah, so they no, no, this really happened.
And I'm like, I'm sitting there with my mouth open
like I'm in a dentist's chair in my seat, and
the three blue men are just staring at me, and
there's one blue man who's standing like over my head

(15:26):
and we make eye contact and I slow blink at
him like a cat and he does it back to me,
and I'm just like today is today is the greatest
day of my life. I can dine out video of that. No,
I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
I was just too busy staring and watching, like what
is happening?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Did they? No?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
No way, no impulse impost but it was due and
then we and then right after we got out of
blue whoa records and a.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
WHOA big government for me.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I think that's you.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
You guys, you're so high right now. You just recorded
the podcast.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, we just started.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Well. I also saw you went to that Hunted museum.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, dude, very scary, honestly.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Uh, we saw you say that guy was a t
Did you say you didn't like that?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
I still don't like that guy. It's dude. Here's my thing.
I think this dude is like a Ghostbuster's villain, collecting
ship from the afterlife and keeping it all in one place,
and someday the apocalypse is going to happen and he's
going to.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Be the guy.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Grant thinks he's a cult leader and everybody who worked
at the museum is part of his cult.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
It is the strangest thing. John Jay, you would you?
I mean, they have John Wayne Gacy's original paintings.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Oh Dexter.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Oh my god, Yeah, I finished. I finished the Resurrection
and I didn't even know that was.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Out, but they had charged you finished, and he didn't
know it was I.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Had no idea it was out until like the other
night he burned.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, well it's not done yet. It's not done yet.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh there's still one more episode tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah right, but I'm saying that one guy that the
Diglish guys got all the collectible.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
How about yeah, how about uh, how about Angel getting
iced at the end. No, But so anyway, then we
saw they we they walk us into this office and
it's the actual wood and full office of Jack of Orkian,
no ship, and they had like his paintings, which are crazy.
But then they go, you know, he killed over two

(17:22):
hundred people in this van. It'd be cool if we
got the van, wouldn't it be. And then all of
a sudden, a secret wall opens up and they have
Jack Coborkian's van with the suicide machines inside of it.
Damn yeah, dude, it's And then they have they have
like the Depiic Box, which is the most haunted artifact
in the world. They have it's it's unreal.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
So that was worth it.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, we had a really and then we we had
we had brunch at the Eiffel Tower, Like, yeah, but
we had the best table in the restaurant. It was, dude,
but it was terrible food. Terrible food.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Damn dude, you guys. Yeah. Man, the group story, though,
sounds like it could be in like a movie.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Follow up question, John, when when am I going to
be a guest on the John J. Vans Podcast?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Oh my god, I'm so. That's actually one of the
reason I was reaching out to you a long time ago.
Remember that drummer I told you about. He's like a
fourteen year old kid, child prodigy, he just signed a
deal with Disney Cool, he's nominated for Grammy, he's doing whatever.
So that he wanted to come on the podcast. The
guy with somebody who set it up, And I was like,
I go maybe because I kept co hosts, I thought,
maybe Grant can co host it with me. When we
set up some drums and you him go at it.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
God, he would email live, dude, he would eat I'm
the drummer of the Rich Bear Man. Who do you
think I am?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
You almost tried out for bluemn Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Dude, No, I yeah, it'd be fun. I'd be down.
But no, I like I'm thinking, like, like, uh an
important guest, like big.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Monday? Well is it monday? I have a guest coming up.
Check this out. This is right up your alley. She
is a professor at a s U and she teaches
about zombies and the apocalypse.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Dude, dude, yeah, yeah, I can't believe that's a class.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Also it is.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's something to do with psychiatry and and how like
if you I don't I haven't read any of the notes.
It's like, if you like pick whoever you think would win,
would be would survive in apocalypse is actually totally wrong.
You would never believe who would who it was. It's
all psychological stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
So what's it right now? So then you're talking about
then what if if she asked you what, how would
you survive a zombie apocalypse? John j How would you
survive it? What would you do? Hunk her down?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I would probably go to that museum you were talking
about him, Jack organ Man would be.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
So sick just write out the apocalypse there. Yeah, but uh,
hold on last I had a I had a good
question for you, John Jay.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
But yeah, I don't go ahead because so far they suck.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, dude, our podcast just slipping.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Dude, it's what are your hours? Now? What time do
you go to work?

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I guess I'm my My work is roughly eight to five.
It's a full it's a it's a full gig man.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
You know, well, you got like a real job.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Is this work talk? What are we doing fucking work talk?

Speaker 4 (20:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Hey, hey, wait, you know that movie we're talking about,
that Stevie King movie, the Walking Movie.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, when it's going out the Long Road.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, So, Kate, do you know about this movie? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:12):
I want to see it.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
So, like, what happens if you got to walk a
certain pace a certain speed and if you don't, they
shoot you in the hell. There's a movie theater and
they asked me for one to be involved with it
where they're gonna put treadmills in the movie theater and
you have to walk three point five miles per hour
on the treadmill during the movie and if you can't,
they remove you from the movie. That's cool, Yeah, sounding

(20:35):
be fun. Like I'm on the treadmill right now, I'm
going two point six and I can't breathe.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
You sound like you're doing two point five. I just
gotta be honest with you. You have to see I
know I texted everybody in the group, but you have
to see the movie Weapons.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
No. My son told me about it. I said it
was great. As soon as he's telling me all about it,
I was like, fuck that.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
It's such a fun It's like, I mean, because it's impossible.
You all your kids are grown. You don't have to
worry about this happening to you, you know.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
What I mean, kidnapped or something like that. Zombies.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
It's so hard to explain. It's so simple, but it's
like so difficult. But the reason you need to see
it is because the bad person, the villain, the big
bad in the movie is the redheaded wife from Field
of Dreams.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
What's your name?

Speaker 3 (21:16):
I can't Madigan? Something Madigan, Isn't that right, Amy Madigan? Yeah,
the redhead from that movie. And she is the scariest,
most awful villain in a movie I've seen in a
long time. And I think it's I think it's worth
because she's so sweet and everything you see her and
that you got it. Yeah, So I just want to

(21:41):
I just want to call and see how you're doing
with the tailor.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
And I miss him.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, anytime you want to have a sleepover, dude, just
give me a shout. It's crazy. Yeah, dude, Yeah, we
should do a spear quest. You and I spear quest.
Set it up.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Put on the.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Google Google. Are you in on the drummer? Are you
in on the drummer? They?

Speaker 3 (22:05):
I don't know if I'm I would be down when
when you.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Podcast that you don't want to crush the kids? Yeah?
I do, man, that be good.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
I'm an ego Mania dude. I gotta get in there.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
And dumb show the drumstick ada and you just start.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
A fight with it. Yeah, Disney sucks. What about the tunnels?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Oh, he's like in the new Mickey Mouse Club.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
This kid, that's so cool. He's gonna be fa dude.
You got to keep that connection. He'll be like the
next Ryan Gosling.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Well that's for you. You can take that connection. I'm
done making connections. I make no more.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Connect Also, I want to talk to you about your
podcast artwork. Is that permanent?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I don't know which one you're talking about, the.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
John J podcast artwork?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Oh? Is that the beard?

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah? You with the beard? And it's kind of a
weird profile.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I have nothing to do with it. I can change
it if you want. I mean, I you're literally you know,
like like I literally this podcast. I love doing it. Yes, dude,
this is this is how it should be. I just
tell me Monday, three o'clock and I.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Just go, oh, okay, oh, I don't do anything anything.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I don't know any questions. I just asked it as
I go, and then they post it.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah. I think the artwork. I was looking at it
and not to be critical, but it's just not it's
not how it's not my reflection of you. It's not
how I see.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
You's beard face.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, and I think like and also it's kind of
it's like it's fun and it's kind of like silly,
but it's kind of uninvited, uninviting.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
That's good, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
There's just something about it where I don't like it.
Kind Of you kind of look like a scary guy.
Maybe you're a little scary scary ball.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Maybe I should go to that museum. Should a profile
picture of that museum? That should be dude.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
You should have Zach Beggin's on your podcast and then
I can confront him and be like, dude, we're taking
you away, yes, set it up? All right? Well, hey,
I thank you so much for letting us talk to you.
Of course, yeah, totally man. Well all right, bye bye,
all right, so let's see that ate up. About most

(24:02):
of the free podcast. We did a gate shout out
to shout out to John Jay John so.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Funny when we call them. Johnny was sorry. I feel
like I wasn't very talkative. I couldn't really get a
word in with you two. Sorry you to love birds.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Over talking about a nice.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
You.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
You guys miss each other in the but not man,
I'm not trying to be like a secondary guest on
his podcast. I'm trying to be featured, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Sorry, But you wouldn't be the most important person in
that room. If you were to play drums with the
fourteen No dude, that.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Kid, That kid would destroy me too.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
What The only thing that I would be kind of
funny though when just funny, it would be.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Just just get bodied via fourteen.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
But I mean, yeah, I think that one year old
man gets shamed by fourteen year old That's.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
How it's spun. I'm like ormented on Reddit, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
It's just like like, what a loser?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Lit a loser? Yeah, this guy should kill himself. Just
give it up already, Like I'm not trying to play drums,
I'm not. Yeah, anyway, I missed that whole crew. So
if you listen to this podcast and you also listen
to John Jay and Rich show, make sure you uh
kind of wants to hear that I've been taking these
mushrooms supplements that aren't psychedelic. They're just regular ass shittaki

(25:27):
and multiple mushrooms. Kate's stretching, what are you doing.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
I'm trying to touch you.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Thanks. But when I when I take dumps, it's brutal.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
That's a lovely way to phrase it. When I'm taking
when I take dumps, it's brutal because.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I didn't want to be like when I'm taking a ship,
you know what I mean? Either way, when I'm pooping. No,
it's just it's something about the combination of mushrooms. I
think in the pills that.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Just they make on psychedelic and the psychedelic mushroom.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
No, because I don't take the psychedelics all the time.
I take the regular mushrooms all the time, and those
are great. They really do work well.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Good.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Anything you want to talk about. We got a couple
of minutes left.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Did you I saw this today? Maybe it was yesterday.
I don't know, the days went together. Christine Brown from
Sister Vibes.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Oh no, I didn't see she.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Uh she wrote a book or she's writing a book.
Maybe it's not out yet. I'm not really sure. But
in her book, I guess she she goes into she
details about her addiction to opioids.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Christine.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yeah, I was like, wait what, I had to read it. So, yeah,
apparently she uh had to get surgery or something. I
don't know, but then yeah, she got addicted. That's like oxycon.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, that's that's what Like Rush Limbaugh, that's what happened
to him. He had like back surgery and then he
got hooked on oxy and then for and then was
hooked on oxy for years doing the radio show, just
blowing out of his mind.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
She said that.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
She was like, yeah, would make like going to set
and like doing work and stuff so much more fun.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I bet, I bet. What's what's it's a It's her
book called Oh my God, look at Me. The Christine Brown.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Story, Mayor of Meville.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah, Christine just watching her make out in front of
her husband, in front of her nuke.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
All of her kids are like, oh Mom, that's gross
because they're all like thirty.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, nobody ain't nobody trying to see?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yeah, Like I don't like if my parents started just
like making out hardcoren from me, I'd be like, what
the fuck?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, that's for. That's for behind closed doors.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Did you when we were in Vegas, though, did you
see the one couple who was just like kind of
like it looked like kind of like a nerdy couple.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
M I don't think so, there's there's they were.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
They had a style that looked like they belonged in
two thousand and three. Cool. It was very odd. I
couldn't describe it. But they were just in the middle
of one of the casino aisles, just like fucking hardcore
making out. And we walked by them and I started
like laughing.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Maybe I did see that but just didn't clock it.
I feel like I had to have.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
But like I fully saw like both of their open
mouths and both of their tongues like come out.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And I was like, you and I made out in
public one time one time. One do you remember that
in Do you remember where it.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Was on our honeymoon? Yeah, yeah, I remember.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
It was in Barcelona.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Yeah, in front of the water, and I didn't think
anybody was around.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
It was around us, but it was just public. We
were just outside, but then.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
There were people around us. I think, oh wow, but.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
That was nice. It's a nice moment. I remember that.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
You remember that what.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
We made out once?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
No, we made out in public ones, publake.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
I feel like we've made out in more places than that.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, probably, but maybe not.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I'm not a big fan of PDA.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
No, neither am I. I'm not a big fan of
it and the little PDA I try and do to you.
You're not a fan of that, That's not true. You
don't like it sometimes I.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Do sometimes occasionally, always accusing me of being like a
bitch and me no in a bad mood.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
No, I've learned, babe. You just have a different demeanor
than I do, which is fine. There's nothing wrong with that.
We just handle things differently, all things.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah. Yeah, somebody told me that I didn't have a
bait happy face the other day.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I mean, that's an insane person to tell us that
was hurtful. Oh, yeah, yeah that. I mean I wouldn't
tell any even if I thought that I wouldn't. There's
just like a certain level I can I only get
like crazy angry with strangers where I'll say some shit occasionally,

(30:22):
but I have to be like now, especially now, I'm
like real, I don't care, but I couldn't imagine doing
just saying something like that is funny. It's like a
roast of somebody that I don't really know that or
don't have that relationship, right, Like, I feel.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Like there are a couple people at work that I
can like do that with, and like a couple people
that can do that to me and say stuff like
that and I wouldn't care. But it's just yeah, it
also depends on who it comes from.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there's just no the person
who said that to you. That's a crazy thing to
say to somebody.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
But yeah, that happened.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Oh yeah, so Kate. We talked about it with John Jay.
But the movie Weapons, if you guys haven't seen Weapons,
or if you haven't gone to the movies in a while,
go see Weapons. I was very The movie theater experience
of it was very nice.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yeah, because only if you like horror movies. If you
don't like horror movies, I wouldn't recommend it.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
There were man I jumped a bunch of times. They
really it was effective. I was sucked into it. And
then also I would something would happen and I would
jump and I'd be like, damn.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Dude, I'm really yeah, Like I felt like I really
liked it.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, And I didn't know. You had said I'd like
to see this movie. It looks cool and I had
only heard the name and just knew it had something
to do with kids, and I was like okay, And
normally I would look up the trailer and be like, well,
I want to watch. I knew nothing about this movie,
and it was so fun to watch and just be like,
where is this going? Because it took so many weird turns. Yeah,

(32:09):
and then by the end it's so satisfying.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah. No.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
I remember watching like maybe like an I d like
little show on it or something, but it was based
on some sort of true story. I feel like they
did like exaggerate a lot of oh yeah, Like I
don't remember how the true story ended up.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
But the true story was probably just the kids all
were outside of recess, and.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
I think it was in the middle of the night.
But I don't think like they were all in the
same class. I don't think like it was, and it
probably wasn't.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
They don't don't say much. I won't spoil anything. It's
not like a witch like you think.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
No, it's not like a black hat like.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yes, it's the coolest and the the way that people
talk in the movie, the junkie whatever his name was,
was it Marcus, I can't remember. Marcus was the cop
I think.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
I don't really have like a huge role, I guess, but.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
He was so effective when he was on screen because
he had this Philly, weird Pennsylvania accent going, and it
was just the dialogue was great. Yeah, everybody should watch it.
What else are we watching, Amanda.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Dox we've been watching? Yeah, the Amanda All.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
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