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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to costco. I love you, Hey, Caitlin. Hello, how
are you?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm good? How are you great?

Speaker 3 (00:07):
What you want to explain, Well, okay, I'll let you
explain it on the podcast. What the hand thing your
your hand injury and how it happened and why it happened.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Oh, I think that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Still sore.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
I mean it's getting better, but yeah, definitely still sore.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I don't have a whole lot to talk about this week,
so we're gonna have to conversate, okay a little bit
and maybe pull some topics out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah it is, we had to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, so nine one zero, five, five seven two eight
seventy one. I will say we lost a few premium
subscribers last week.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Rip.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
I think the content was a bit much, m okay,
I'm trying to think of I was like, is it
what I said?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
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of a lot of life week's episode that kind of.
But and then I think we regained like more than
we lost, so I think we can. Yeah, it worked out,
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Speaker 3 (01:47):
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Speaker 1 (01:52):
My name is Grant.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'm joined as always by my beautiful girlfriend Kate.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Hi, I'm great, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
I'm not in a Christmas spirit.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Oh my, you're never in any kind of spirit. Why
you're you watch Spirited though?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
That movie sucked. Sorry, that's harsh, even like harsh.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Take like it sucked because one it was it should
have been sixty minutes sixty They could have cut a
lot up like you thought.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
It should just have been like a Christmas special.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, let's have or out. Yeah, our I don't know,
it's just what what was it like two hours?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
And yeah, I think it was. I think it was
like an hour and fifty minutes. It was not quite
two hours.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Ninety minutes. Little under nine minutes.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Ninety minutes would have been better, but yeah, I think
it should have been just a tightly edited special.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Honestly, it was better than I was expecting it to
because I don't like musicals like really at all, unless
I'm going to like the theater to see a musical performance,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Mean, I don't want to watch that on TV. That's
just not for me. No, I don't know. It just
bothers me most times.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
But so I was like, this is gonna be kind
of stupid, and it was a little stupid, but I
thought it was actually there.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
There were cute q I liked it.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I would recommend it.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, I mean I probably recommend watching it like one
time and you'll either love.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
It or probably not going to be one of those
Christmas movies that you like consistently watch like every Christmas season,
which are like one of my favorite Christmas movies is
White Christmas.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
And I also really.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Like el what's the White Christmas?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's the one with Being Crosby. That's right, yeah, the
really old one.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, we watched that last year for what Yeah we
did for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's like one of my most favorite. We watched it,
and I do like the singing in that one.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Kate fill sleep halfway through that one. No, I didn't
I feel like you?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
You must have.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
No, I did not, grant.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
So that's how you stay away, is bing Crosby?

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, it was blue Wys. You got to thank you for, right,
aren't they blue?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Blue?

Speaker 4 (04:08):
You?

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I think? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, so you have white Christmas. What was the other one?
You said?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Elf?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Past, that's Farell's other Christmas.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I don't think I've ever seen that all the way, which,
when you compare.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
The two, Elf is obviously the better one.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Right, I'm not trying to be contrarian, but I've literally
only seen like clips from Elf just to never literally
for her. No, it just never appealed to me. I
don't like Zoey Deschanel. Oh, yeah, I think she is
an awful person.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I don't like her either, But that was I think
one of the first things she did, so she didn't
really bug.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Me too much back. Yeah, yeah, because that was before
New Girl and her being a singer. Five hundred Days
of Summer New Girl is great.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Five hundred days of Summer. It's such a I don't
like that movie. It's a bummer.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
But when she got out the ukulele and was all like,
it's like, fuck this lady, she sucks.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
You don't like play? That was really hard to say.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
No.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I mean I like some like people who do more
than just play, you know, four chords.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Like the guys who are sucking that ship. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Big huge guys are just jamming out on their tiny little.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Big huge guys like the Sammons you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I wasn't gonna say that, but.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, that guy, Yeah, what's his name?

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Doesn't it doesn't it have like an apostrophe in it somewhere?

Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's it's real something or other.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I feel like we're in a car commercial. Can you
hear him breathing into the microphone?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Is that me?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
No, it's him.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
He's like because he is a big gentleman, and he's
just like get his breast.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
First down beat. He's just like immediately exhausted.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
It's like a little shaky too.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, he's nervous. It's like, you gotta nail.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
This all right, let's he really winded already.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Here's the song you've heard a thousand times. He is
breathing like he has sleep but like waking after me.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Awake too.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's kind of like you.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Be watching TV and I just fucking like literally over
the TV, I can pick out Grant's breathing and I'm
just like Jesus.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Moving forward, Oh this is it doesn't what movie was
this end?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I feel like it's been in multiple movies turned.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Down, so we got a flying for copyright.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
But yeah, I feel like it it's been in like commercials,
Like I feel like this is a case case jeweler, jewelry.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Get to it due.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
To me to google what it's been used.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I mean, if you want, yeah, okay, that's a song.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I mean I like it.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, it's a good song. You know what song I
like better? Dude, fuck it. I don't even care if
we get pulled for a copyright. I want to hear
the Wizard of oz Oh that I mean.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
That was the original. That's like the first version, right, Dorothy?

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah? Yeah, what are you doing over there breathing?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Super? I was trying to.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Find what movies have used that song, but you know,
it's it's turning out to be a lot more difficult
than I thought it was going to be.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
So I'm just gonna stop.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
It's fucking jam right here. Do you know what is this?
This is a similar This is like a Hawaiian band
fucking goes. Oh.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I do know this song?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, I used to play it all the time, but
you just I don't know what's the name?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Rather be Ocean Blue.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Here it is. I served till the sun set this
far and then.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Shut.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
You're ruining it and I'm just the song rules. That's
from Lelo and Stage. I don't support Disney, but I will.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I want to say, isn't that in a Disney something?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, it's Lelo and Stitch.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay, that makes sense. Mahalo means I did like that show?
Did me?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
They have a show.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
It was a show, and.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
It was like it was a movie first, right, but
then they had a show like because you know how
like Lion King that was a movie, and then they
had like Timon and Poomba they had their own show too,
which I love.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
God damn it, I want to write a song. Hold on,
just keep on with that thought. Tim and Pumba had
a show, but Lelo and Stop. What was the Leilo
and Stitch show?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I think it was just like a I don't know.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
It was just like, you know, just like new like
short story basically about.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Like them dude, www, dot terrible person, dot co Go
subscribe because I'm going to open up the podcast with like,
like I said, I don't support Disney, but I'm going
to open it up with a slammer on the premium Yeah,
because I don't want to get flight because if we've
already played one Disney song, Walt's Gonna come Back from
the Dead and Haunt our house, babe.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
So, okay, what other Christmas movies do you like?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Oh, where do we land on? Christmas Story? Did you
enjoy that You've you saw it basically.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
For the first time.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, I thought it was good.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
I mean like I've seen bits and pieces of it
before because it's like my grandpa's favorite Christmas movie. So
I remember it like being on sometimes on like Christmas Eve,
Christmas Day whatever, in the background, not really paying attention
to it sort of thing. So it's like was a lot,
like a lot of it was familiar to me, Like
I felt like I had seen it before, just like
all like at different times, you know, over the course

(10:37):
of my life.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
But yeah, it was pretty good. It was just it
ended very abruptly. Yeah, in my opinion, like it was
just like, okay, Christmas is over.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Like I don't know, And I feel like most of
the action in that movie happened within like the last
like twenty twenty five minutes of them.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I forgot the order of how it actually went because
I've seen them so much out of sequence from the
because they played on TNT.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah, and I didn't realize like the bunny suit is
like so far towards the end, and like him getting
his little lead rider or whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Like you said, the thing of they put their Christmas
tree up on Christmas Eve, yeah, which I never put
out the call.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
They went to the Christmas Tree lot, tacked out a
Christmas tree, decorated it, and apparently wrapped all their gifts.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
So the scene where Ralphie is like He's on Santa's
lap and then he gets kicked down the slide, that's
literally Christmas Eve at like nine pm.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, and then they go home put up the Christmas.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Tree or six pm because they probably closed early on Christmas.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh yeah, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
And it's dark, but also that's India, right, Yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Did you see the line for Santa. It's like a
thousand people.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well maybe they went to like Chicago. Are you sure
it's not like Chicago.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
They may have I don't know, but that's like no
one in Indiana's going on on.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Christmas Eve and they're not going to be waiting like
three hours in line for their kid to sit on
Santa's lap. If you're going to the mall on Christmas Eve,
you're probably on a mission, yeah, because you're like, fuck,
I forgot to get something. I need to get this
one last thing, Like I just want to get in
and get out.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah I'll punch someone. Yeah, I think, Yeah, I go.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I've gone on Christmas Eve a few times to get
some things, but it's it's very I'm trying to think
what you get normally and be like a gift card.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
It'd be like gift cards and ship.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, I remember I went and got pizza gift cards
for your grandparents.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
It turned out to be I mean, you wanted to
like ban that place forever.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, Red White and Brew. I don't think we have
any listeners.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Oh you're gonna name it?

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Okay, Now they fucked me. I'm still mad about it.
How well was that a year ago? Two years ago.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
I think that was two years ago now, because I
don't think we were living together at that point.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, we weren't. No, Yeah, that was pissed.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
It was before we had lived together.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
And Grant was like, I want to get your grandparents something,
and I was like, well, you can get them like
a Red, White and Brew gift card one because I
know that we were like we were going there in
like a couple of days for dinner. So I was like, yeah,
just pick that, you know, And so I thought it
would just be, you know, something quick and easy for
him to go pick up and grab.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
But no, apparently they were out of gift cards.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah. I almost beat up a high school.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Fourteen year old that was working as the hostess. Didn't really,
she wasn't very helpful.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I saw red and I just imagined just I.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Got really, I think more upset than he needed.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
To, like hooking body blows, oh my gosh, boom boom,
and then just come up hit her in the face,
bang and be like Merry Christmas, bitch, bitch, I'm going
to borrows to get.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
To gift guards.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
You ask her if she had like E gift cards
or something.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Is there anything.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
I was like, you can write it on a fucking
napkin and handed like that would be great, and she
was just like.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Now.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
We don't have gift guards.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
So did you see the Taylor swift thing? How her swifties,
her swifties. How Swifties are suing Ticketmasters there's a class
action lawsuit against Ticketmaster.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Oh, because she was like, I'm upset to guys, even
though it's probably mostly her fault her doing.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Dude also too, man, like, that's the what is it?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
The now her fans feel like they have to fight for.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Her and also too, it's I mean, when you were buying,
like when I was a young person buying concert tickets,
you went to the you went to a store and
then they typed it in on this special computer and
they were like, oh, okay, they're still available, like that's
what you had to do, and then they'd print out
your tickets.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Kind of store would you have to go?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
They had music stores had Ticketmaster counters and it would
show like they had you know the boards where the
letters stick in, and they're like felt you know what
I'm talking about. Yeah, they would put them all up
there and they'd be like, Dave Matthew's band fish and
it would have the date next to it and how
much the tickets were on that type of board. It
was this huge board and you go in, I'd be like,
I want to Dave Matthew's band tickets for Friday whatever.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
I've never I guess I don't know. Maybe I was
too young for that to remember that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
It was.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
It was actually kind of you had a xiety because
if you wanted good tickets, you had to get to ticket.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
I also like they also must have had a website,
because I remember, like my mom, like I remember like
my family because like my dad or my my dad,
my grandpa he worked for like some like technology company
that did like computer.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Chips and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
So we always had like computers and stuff growing up.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I don't think the ticket well, the Ticketmaster website didn't
come out.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I guess it would have been you would have been
three or four when you start.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, so I think that probably.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Ninety six, ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't think that they did that. Yeah, at least
I've never had you know, that sounds so archaic. Oh
my god. They got to a Virgin Mobile store really good.
What a store.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
The one was the Super Sounds in the Elkhart Concord Mall.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
You had to go.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
It was like a deserted mall basically, but they had
this this one music store there was it.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Just like a random kiosk.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
No, it was like it was a music store and
at the counter where you paid for your CDs and ship,
the same guy got.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
You concert tickets.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Weird, Yeah, but he had like a little separate machine.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Where he'd be like, I don't know, maybe things were
just backwards in Indiana No, I mean, but I also
that's before the Internet, so there weren't website, Like, there
wasn't even a website until ninety five ninety six.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
But what these Taylor Swift kids are doing, So they're
suing Ticketmaster because they couldn't get tickets basically, right, they have.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Some level of trauma. They're scarred for life.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Because they couldn't go to see their favorite artists.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
But it's also too man like that should.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Happen one thousand dollars if.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
The website crashes.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
The website crashes, that should cost Ticketmaster money, but that
doesn't cause any harm to people trying to buy fucking
concert tickets.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, like it's frustrating, I'm sure, but the people who
waited in line for eight hours get something fucking better.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
To do, right, Well, why would you have to wait
in line anywhere?

Speaker 3 (16:49):
I mean it's all online, No, but I'm saying it's
in Q So they have to sit and wait online.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Oh and then they have to like get probably if
it doesn't work or you're kicks them off and they
have to go back into the Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
And then so when the person there's so many ahead
of you and it tells you what number you are
and stuff. Yeah, but like people are just mad they
didn't get fucking concert tickets. But like Taylor Swift should
just do more concerts. Yeah, fucking do three nights when
you go somewhere. See, Like, I don't know, like why
is everybody so pissed off?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Or maybe she.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Should just be like one of those people that just
do a residency in Vegas and be like, if you
want to see me, come come see me.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
I would not want to be in Vegas for the
months where she's doing.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Her residence because it'd just be like a bunch of screaming,
fucking fifteen year olds like walking down the strip and
clogging up everything.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Like sniffling adult, like, why the fuck are you here?

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Just like sniffling, well, sniff like weak adults, just like
pushing their glasses up their nose walking down the street.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
They're probably I can't no, I mean.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
It's just say they're still wearing masks.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, they're also wearing like food handlers.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Gloves bringing that bag. Dude. You know who else had
a mask on this week?

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Who?

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Kanye West?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Oh? That is like, uh, what do they call?

Speaker 6 (18:07):
Though?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
That's not even a ski mask, that's a I don't
even know.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
It's not fun.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Literally, it covers his whole face. I don't know how
he breathes or sees.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Clearly, if you watched any of the Alex Jones interview,
it is not a functional mask because nothing he did
on that was no and he was.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Very like you tell, he was very muffled, like our Founderbuckers.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Hey, I'll it's like, dude, take off the fucking like
I do.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
But also I guess like his point is he wants
to be in control of his image.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Whatever that means.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, okay, so is that gonna be socially appropriate now
for all of us to just walk around with ski
masks on.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Like I'd be fucking scared.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Like if you just like went to the grocery store
and you just saw this guy and that with a
fucking full face mask, you couldn't see his eyes or anything.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
You'd be like, Cobra, he gonna shoot all.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Of us, Cobra Commander Kanye West, fuck dude. And he
said some crazy shit he.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Did, but then he like had some really good points
and then he would follow it up with something really crazy,
and you're just like, Okay, he lost.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Somebody said something really interesting.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I can't remember where I heard it, but it was
just today where they said he's like taking the best
parts of all the stuff he hears and saying it
together like sampling, like it's his music. You know, that's
how he thinks, like thought works. But in all reality,
he's just saying shit. It's like, you can't make the
craziest statement possible and then have people like expect to

(19:36):
have the expectation that people are going to listen to
you say something wild. Yeah, but yeah, I dude, I
just don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Is that how the premium subscribers felt after last week's episode.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Literally, No, I think I got the brunt of it.
I want to say, well, we had it was the
there's one kind of there's one obvious conversation, but I
think the just Laine Maxwell discussion.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, it's probably when you say your name out.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I won't say why it's inappropriate. I will just say
it is. In subscribe to the premium podcast www Dot
terrible person that CEO.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Then go listen to it.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
So what other Christmas movies we got? Uh, Christmas Story,
Christmas Vacation.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Oh yeah, Christmas Vacation.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
That's my top one of my favorites too.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
And I was it was probably not until probably like
I don't know, three or four years ago, was like
the first time I had ever seen that movie.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, the first time.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Maybe it might have been with you, but I was
just like, how have I never watched this before?

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Like?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
This is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
It is a really good movie.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, that one's a good one. I also like, I
sometimes like the Christmas Carol, like.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Movie Charlie Brown Christmas Rules.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
My mom used to really like them. Up, It's Christmas Carol.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
So we used to watch that a lot too. It's
pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
What Uh, Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen the
Muppets Christmas Carol all the way through.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Oh yeah, I mean it's ridiculous, goes the Muppets, but
it's funny.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
What do we watch this week? What did you watch?

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Well?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
I watched Sex Life of College Girls.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I'm watching the sex Life of College Girls. But that
is coming.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
That comes out like every Thursday, they drop I think
two episodes.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, Handmaid's tells over.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
They finally killed June put a bullet just right.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
June is still alive because she's fleeing. She beat fleeing.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
That's that's so unrealistic. Why would you she keeps going back?

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, now she's going I don't know where exactly she's
headed to now.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Some like.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
I think she's going back to technically Gilliad, but it's
like a it's like a weird area where Gilliad's not
really inhabiting right now.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I don't know. It's almost like it maybe that sounds
kind of like it's like.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
A territory of Gillad or sort of thing that no
one really lives in. So now they're bringing back all
these like former refugees I guess or whatever who didn't
want to be under Gilliad.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
But they're like, oh, you can.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Live here, that's Elizabeth Moss, right, Oh yeah, I think
they should kill Elizabeth Moss on the show and replace
her with Christie Ally. We haven't seen Christi Ally and
like anything lately, and I just think it's time. I
think it's time for a comeback.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
You're never going to what do you mean she's dead?
What she died?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
She had cancer, which is really sad.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, it's nothing funny about Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I think she had pancreatic or colon or did she suffer?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Would she have it for a long time?

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Well, they said, I don't know how long she had
it for exactly. But the thing that I read today
it said that by the time they had found it,
it was already like late stage of the disease.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Oh oh here, okay, this is what we're talking about,
Not Christy Ally. TMZ just their top story right now. No,
it's a Taylor Swift fans. Ticketmaster can't sway us with seats.
Industry must change trying to load the video so we
can hear it. We got to sit through and ooh, hello,
so through Christmas.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Ad well, jingle bells.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Dazzling the holiday shop? What is this for? It's twenty
three seconds. That's problem.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
You can't skip it.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
No, it's TMZ. They have their shits ho monetized. Yeah,
but it's this is this is going to be an
excellent exploration about the whole Taylor Swift scenario that's breaking Yeah,
it's breaking out. This is top story as of three
point fifty two pm Pacific time, which that's what like
an hour ago.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
It's always difficult to get tickets of concerts, especially when
the artist is as popular as Taylor Swift. And some
people say, look, all right, you're disappointed you didn't get tickets.
Is that a reason to file a lawsuit? Why did
you feel it?

Speaker 6 (24:10):
Is? Well, I had my own personal experience. Of course,
my daughter and I are Swifty fans. But the argument
that the ticketmaster typically makes.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
That is it's either a Taylor Swift fan or you're
a Swifty You're not a Swifty fan.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Mistrial right there.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
You don't deserve to be failing a lawsuit because clearly
you're not a true Taylor Swift fan.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
You tell supply and demand, and this is just economics.
But the problem is is that when you organize the sale,
and you are the organizer, you did take all the
terms of this pre sale, which.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Is you know, what's going to be interesting.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
I heard a lot of people say that they weren't
getting promo codes, the early invite promo codes, like the
older people, but all the younger people and people with
social media, we're getting these special invites to early access codes,
and people they were like, it's random. Taylor Swist said,
it's random.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's so people like influencers.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I bet it's like young you know, female, you know,
gender and sexual orientation specific because they're not giving like
the dads in Indiana, you know, any of the rogers.
They're not getting the early access codes. So I wonder
if that's going to come out, because this is gonna
be a huge thing. So they're gonna have they're going

(25:32):
to investigate everything, and they're going to investigate everything on
Ticketmaster's side, and they're gonna investigate everything on Taylor's side,
even though Taylor didn't do anything wrong. So she's got
to open up her books, which I think that might
be fucking really interesting.

Speaker 7 (25:45):
Registration verification boosting, we still don't exactly know what that means,
except from the email that they sent out which said
you would be put in furt and moved to the
front of the line.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
The boosting.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
This lady needs to be better at being an attorney
because she's not selling me on anything. There, tell me
why you deserve a lawsuit? And she's like, well, as
a Swift East.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Fan, we I want to continue hearing what she has.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
Let's say, boosing what all of those combined create.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Boosting is like where you get pushed to the front
of a queue or get better tickets?

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Okay, gated a scenario where this sale was atter chaos.
Then you add to it that they give out too
many codes. They give out one point five million codes
that would allow that person that that code holder to
buy six tickets at three different locations. That's twenty four

(26:43):
what so.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
At every tabe. So you could go to six Taylor
Swift shows.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
No, you could go to three different locations. Oh so
three different shows and you can get six tickets to
each one. And you know that a bunch of you
are probably doing that and then fucking going and reselling
them for five times, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Mean, that's that's good business right there. Let's keep going.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
You know a million seats there and of course you
know there's only about two point eight million available, so
they there was never the ability or going to be
the ability that that they could ever satisfy the demand.
And part of our problem is who got those codes?

Speaker 5 (27:30):
Have other Tailor Swift fans contact you and said, hey,
I'd like to be a part of this lawsuit too,
They certainly have, because.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
She might imagine she didn't get a code. Yeah, you
know what I mean, and you got those codes.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, this is such a stupid thing. It's like I
couldn't get And it's like, who gives a shit if
you didn't have if it wasn't fair? Yeah, Like truthfully,
like who's paying that much attention to like that shit?
How good is your life that that's a shit you're
the most worried about.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
I mean, I do kind of agree with it, like
the fact that the buying six tickets, because I feel
like people take advantage of that, and then they do
go and resell them for like astronomical rates.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
And you're just like they had a way to combat scalping.
I can't remember what it is.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yeah, but once it all sells out and then it's all,
you know, you all you have to buy all the tickets.
The only tickets available are resale tickets. Then at that
point they can charge whatever they want. So I mean,
if anything, ticket Master would be partially to blame for
helping to drive up the cost by allowing people to

(28:35):
buy that many tickets and that many different locations.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh on, like a pre sale code, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Like it's if it's pre sale, then okay, maybe limited
to like two tickets to like at three different locations.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Six Seriously, if.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
You want to come back later and try to get
four more than okay.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Here's my thing is, like, who has five friends that
they want to spend three different That's interesting?

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Most of them probably don't.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
That's why they're like, I'll just buy six and then
I'm just gonna resell them for sho.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
If you had even though I'm only gonna use two.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
If yeah, if you had six tickets to Taylor Swift,
who would you take?

Speaker 6 (29:09):
Well?

Speaker 4 (29:10):
I probably wouldn't go to Taylor Swift because that you
thought that the Jonas Brothers was an annoying concert because
of the screaming fans, Like I could only imagine what
it would be like. Got a Taylor Swift concept right
three times worse?

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Why do people scream at fucking kind?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I don't fucking know.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
It's like, I just want to hear their goddamn music,
like what we came here, what we paid money to see,
you know.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
And it's just like yeah, you fucking yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
And Taylor Swift has like state of the art an
you're monitoring, which cancels out pretty much ninety percent of that, right, So,
I mean, sure it's coming in through the microphones, but
to her, she's safe, Like why doesn't she tell her
fans that the safe thing to do would be not
scream for everybody's what is that your oral health?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
No hearing? What's hearing?

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I don't know? You say rl.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Rl like a U R A l out our audio
are yeah they're your years, yeah, your ears?

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Like why doesn't Taylor Swift look out for her fucking fans,
the Swifties.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
The Swiftie fans fucking.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Worst www, dot terribleperson dot co I there's there's so Kate,
There's a lot of stuff that I'd like to talk
to you about, but I'm not sure how to talk
like where and how to get into it. But I
think it's gonna be great podcast content.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Okay, shortly, Well, I'm excited to hear it.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Well, I mean you you're aware of like the content. Oh, okay,
you're aware you get the extra premium content. I got
the fucking premium content with Kate on the phone today.
She went hard. She was so mad at somebody. I
won't say who or where or what. Yeah, but Kate
called me and for about twenty minutes just went on

(31:01):
this fucking tirade.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Cuz you know, you know what they say, you want
to get something done, do it yourself.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah, but man, you you were fired up. But he said,
let's do this. Well, okay, we're gonna switch over to
the premium now. Yeah, if you want to hear that
hot track, I'm gonna drive at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I'm really excited to hear it.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
I may play it all the way through that maybe
the first like three minutes of the podcast.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
So just a full song.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, because you know it's behind a paywall, and we copyright.
It's a different thing behind a paywall. So again, go
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