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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Costco. I love you, Hi everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm recording the intro on my phone because I don't
want to break out all the recording equipment just to
do an intro. Today's episode is kind of a simulcast
with the John Jay Rich Afterwards podcast. It's Nick Johnson,
the executive producer from that show, and myself just sitting
in a room having a chat and I said, you know,

(00:24):
I'm gonna put this on Terrible Person for the free episode.
It's a nice long conversation. Nick's a fun dude. If
you want to hear the premium episode this week and
all the other weeks, go to www. Dot Terribleperson dot
co and sign up. It's two bucks. It's it's a
lot of fun. I think you'll like it. It's a

(00:45):
lot a lot of yelling, a lot of a lot
of you know, annoyed grant. So if you're into that
sort of thing, head on over to www. Dot Terribleperson
dot co. Otherwise, enjoy this episode with Nick Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's really good. Are you can you hear yourself loud enough? Check? Check? Check? Yeah, okay,
take one off. Okay, I'm like Whitney Houston, dude dead JK,
how about this how to become a terrible afterwards? That,
I mean, this makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
So I I'm going to I told Nick right before
we recorded this that I'm too lazy to record a
free episode of my podcast because of what a nightmare
of the premium episode was. So I this will be
simulcast on John Jay and Ridge afterwards and how to
Become a Terrible Person.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
So I don't understand that podcasting people people just like
immediately just like, oh my gosh, I got to tune
into both channels now. So we're it's Friday. We're working. Yeah,
we're working together. Yeah, just together. Yeah, you and me
holding hands. I'm out, dude, I'm out of energy. I

(02:00):
don't know how you're doing it this week, dude. I
like I reached a point this week where it was
just like, I don't I don't know that this week
will end. It's like, it's like it just because so
John Jay's in Hawaii, so we have to we have
to do the show a little differently.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
For those of you who are listening exclusively on How
to Become a Terrible Person.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
John Jay is John Jay right now, it's the John
Jay and Rich Show.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm pretty sure that people that listen to how to
become a terreiful person have no idea what what it
is I do.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, now they know, dude. I'm excited. Thanks bringing it.
So Nick's the executive producer of the John Jay and
Rich Show. I have we even said that on the
afterwards podcast? No, we haven't. I don't know that we
said that anywhere.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, you're you're the guy, dude. And so when John
Jay goes to Hawaii, the host, one of the boss
is one of the hosts. Uh, when when he goes
to Hawaii, it kind of makes things a little bit
more challenging.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, I would say challenging is the right word, because
so we had to we have to, you know, record
parts of the show because it's just not feasible for
John Jay to get to the iHeart studios in Hawaii
at like one in the mon because if we record
at five am, yeah, it would be so yeah, so
we start, you know, the show starts at five, so

(03:18):
he would be in the iHeart Studios at the latest
two probably more like one am.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
You know, John Jay always says, you don't talk numbers
on the radio, and I no, I realized I just
lost you, Like, I was like, what time is it now?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Anyway, so you know, to kind of because he like,
you know, Kemp's there he plays basketball like when when
he is there, like, he's busy all day too, So
it's like it's it's just not feasible to be like, hey,
if you if you go to bed at nine, uh,
you know that's good for you to come in at
one o'clock in the morning because he's not you know, but.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know, everyone, they'd be kind of fun. There'd be
a fun schedule to be on. Yeah, to just do
a morning like to just get up at midnight and
just feel like.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
And be done by five am, that kind of rule.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
But then you probably sleep until what well, I mean
even if you slept until like ten, Yeah, that'd still
be enough sleep, I would think.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I would think. But I mean, just but just to
make it easier, right, but it's not easier on like
everyone early. So the show the show is live at
five Phoenix time. However, we have affiliates in the Midwest
that also take the show at five o'clock their time.

(04:41):
So I have to be in this studio and have
the show on the air by four o'clock Phoenix time,
and usually I could hear about three fifteen, just to
get everything prepped and ready to go. But then on
these on these days, there there were days this week
that I didn't leave until two in the afternoon, and
so it was like we had a big we had

(05:03):
a big meeting this week too, God, and so it
was just like by Wednesday, I was like, thank God,
tomorrow's Friday. Holy snikes, it's not Friday. It is. Oh yeah, yeah,
like we still have a full another day to go,
but yeah, the show should be back to normal come Monday.

(05:24):
I mean, God will.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Dude, I've been I've inspiring all week. I've just been
circling the drain. Yeah, because I mean, apparently now I
can't use the thumbs up emoji.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Oh I I you know, I didn't hear the story.
Well I heard the story, but I wasn't really paying attention.
Now it just feels like I'm going to inadvertently use
the thumbs up emoji more often now. So you're not
supposed to use it, because what does it mean?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's passive aggressive, which we all know if you give
some if somebody writes a paragraph and you give the
thumbs up, oh yeah, yeah, it's not. I mean it's not.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Isn't that what it's supposed to be?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Eaither Yeah, but no, it's supposed to be like hey, cool,
got it right, yeah? Or passive aggressive, got it like whatever.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
But apparently get to my wife all the time in
person when she goes off on me because I'm an
idiot and I start working three o'clock in the morning
and I don't get home until two, and she's like,
you're spending too much time there, and I'm just like, yeah, yeah, okay,
thumbs and then I give her. Then I in person
give her the thumbs up, and it goes really well.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know what the ladies in our lives probably both
hate is when they're going on about something and you go,
I got it. Yeah, I can't remember what it was,
but we'd both have. You have a wife named Kaitlyn.
I have a girlfriend, hopefully soon to be a fiance
named Kaitlyn.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I'm on her finger, Dude. I gave up, Dude.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I gave her a calm down the other day, and
it was it was done for about four hours. Like
I was like, I got to find a new place
to live.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, no, I mean yeah, because I think we would
be agreement that they are both like better than we
are to and so it's like like you have that
like chip on your shoulders. Well yeah, it's like I
don't need to hear about picking up the dog poop
in the backyard again. I'm going to do it. I
got it. We know who the alpha dogs are on

(07:09):
our households. It's fine, Yeah, it's the ladies. It's fine.
But don't you dare tell them? Fine?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, and then so that I mean, but see they
give us, they give you give Kate the thumbs up, Caitlyne,
excuse me, you give her the thumbs up, and she
calls you. She says, that's passive aggressive. That's not cool. Yeah,
she doesn't cancel you. Well, she doesn't say I'm done
talking to you forever because you use the thumbs up logo.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
But isn't like, I guess I don't. What I don't
understand about this whole thing is like, to some extent,
isn't like like every person passive aggressive? Yeah, like in
some way.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I mean, I'm I'm deeply passive aggressive. Y. I'm raised
by two of the most passive aggressive people I've ever met. So, like,
I don't understand I think I feel like I'm might
be the old guy. I might be the old guy
at the Muppet Show screaming down. I'm not gonna lump her.
I don't want to lump you into that quite yet,

(08:09):
because I am I don't know, man, I'm I'm at
the end of my rope with these youngsters, with these
gen zers.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Dude, your full get off my get off my line.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
No, it's it's because I'm thinking this stems from something.
Remember like twenty five twenty years ago when we were kids.
Forty five years ago, when we were kids, they started
giving out participation trophies, right, Yeah, everybody got a trophy. Yeah,
everybody you know feels good. Right, That's not how the

(08:41):
world works. There's winners and there's losers.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I remember getting a participation ribbon in a like a
wrestling competition, and it like it it was embarrassing to me. Yeah,
it was embarrassing because every other every you know, I
think it was one through four placed or whatever, and
then like the participation ribbons were all green. It's like
you have your participation ribbon and you look across the

(09:07):
hall and and you know, I mean, whatever ding dong was.
It was also there wrestling, right, has the same ribbon
in it. I remember just being like being embarrassed and
like not just throwing it in literally in the garbage.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I think that's why inflation is so bad, because everybody
gets trophy.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
We're spending all our money on trophies. Right, the world
economy is gonna crash.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Political talk, dude, I'm getting I'm getting hot in the
politics right now. No, I just think they're And then like, so,
what happens is everybody gets a trophy. Everybody thinks they're
special all the time. Which everybody's special, right right, I'm
being pass everyone thinks they're super unique and super different whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
But I just don't.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
I I think that's what the problem is is we've
been coddling. We've been coddled even us.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
I think, yeah, I think to you know, to an extent.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
But I don't see how an emoji would bother me
enough to write what Tim Cook an email and Apple
say yeah, Tim Cook, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dane Cook and Apple.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, Dane Cook, Dane Cook, Dalvin Cook, Yeah, running back
from me, Dear Tim Cook. Listen.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I received a thumbs up from my friend after I
wrote them a message about my dog getting back from
the vet. It's like, I don't think that's cool. We
should cancel this.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, I don't. Uh, I don't know that I that
I get it at all. Do you remember you bring
this up? Do you remember the most passive AGGRESSI you've
ever been to me? Because I could point to a
very specific incident. I mean no, I'd love to hear that,
like like you and I have like weirdly been some
patago like like this like our entire time seven years

(10:51):
except one three day period, but there was there was
one day I came in. We were in our old room.
I came in and there was just stuff everywhere, like
you had like you had a green screen set up
in there and apparently had like stuff stuff to do.
Oh yeah yeah, And like that was at that point

(11:12):
the building was full and so there weren't like a
million offices we could set things up in. And I
remember coming in and being like I had to move
things to get to my down and I was so
fired up. But I am also passive aggressive that so
then I went to our boss at the time and
I was like, hey, like if we if I can't

(11:34):
sit down, I'm not gonna be able to work, and
then he came down got you, and you came down.
You're like, no, it's good, No, it's fine, Nick, it's fine,
it's fine. I'll just take it all down. I'll just
take all this s down. It's done, like, don't worry.
And then then we both we both exit right around
the same time, exit the room at the same time,

(11:55):
and you go down the hallway. You're talking in your
in your accelerated grand voice, like the like the like
the loud like like, yeah, well, I guess I can't
work because somebody else has to work in the same
room we work in. That checks out. I remember, it's
just like this is just so, this is so silly.

(12:16):
But I mean that's I mean, that's old regime, dude,
That's it's true. Now now we get to bess everybody else.
We get to be the guy gets mad and yells
at everybody. But I don't think we've had those moment.
I mean I've had a couple of moments where I've
not been the most uh even keeled, I guess is

(12:41):
the right word.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I I've decided that when I freak out here, I
do it privately. That's my new thing is I go
to a different room. Yeah, and I have a moment
and I'm like, what really is happening.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
There was a time earlier this year that I would
get so frustrated that right about eight o'clock every day,
I would have to take a walk around the building.
That's cool, I had to take I would literally go
to the elevator, take it out of the first floor,
walk around the building, get back in the elevator, come
back up, and feel okay. But that's just the around,

(13:14):
just the stress. Around eight to fifteen.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Every day, I do Crystal Math in my car, so
I totally understand due.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
So we never get I mean I don't, I don't
even I don't. I mean, I don't even know where
to go with that. I mean that's not a joke,
Like I mean, I'm addicted to crystal math. Yeah no.
And as someone who is your supplier, I mean, yeah, dude,
you can't really shut me down. You can't really be
passive progressive because you're gonna lose business. So what did

(13:42):
did you have any did you have anything on the
on the docket that you wanted to get into that
seemed important to talk about this week? I mean, you
said you had topics I mean so we So here's
the deal. We had an afterwards podcast that we were
we were aimed and ready to post, right, did we Yeah?
We did? Was it was a somebody called and asked

(14:04):
about the origins of John Jay and Rich. Oh yeah yeah.
And since then Rich remembered that he has like their
their original like demo tapes and and CDs and whatever,
and so we were going to post that podcast on
Tuesday and Rich couldn't find them, and then by yesterday

(14:25):
Rich had found them but hadn't gone through them yet.
And so that's so now we're waiting on that. It
should it should be pretty compelling. It's a fun story.
So we're just all filler this week. Yeah, like, yeah,
it feels good. I'll chill.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Well since we're yeah, since we're filler, did you watch
a Nolan Ryan documentary on Netflix?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh my god, dude, I finished. I finished She Hulk
last night. What's that about? It's about female Hulk. What'd
she do? She's an attorney? Actually? Oh really? Yeah? Uh?
She had a cool jingle it's me does she will
call me for your problems? What? What's the so she

(15:09):
related to David Banner, Bruce Banner David Banner is somebody different,
Bruce Banner, I shouldn't be on the area. Their cousin,
their cousins. So spoiler like, the series starts with Jennifer
Walters who turns into the she Hulk, and Bruce Banner
who is the Hulk and who's the actress to place

(15:30):
she Hulk? Tatiana Maslani from Orphan Black. She want to
Emmy for Orphan Black. I've never seen, yeah, but apparently
she was very good at it, so good she'd want
an Emmy. Wow, like a regional Emmy.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
She was an orphan Okay, So she hulks. She's an attorney.
She gets mixed up. She takes the US or something right,
that's I mean, is.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
That what happened? Well? How did Bruce Banner become the Hulk?
While Bruce Banner it was exposed to gamma radiation and
so she Hulk? Right, it's this show open. This is
a spoiler even though it's been out for nine weeks.

(16:16):
They get in a car wreck in some of Bruce's
blood mixes with like it gets in a cot on
her arm, and the Banner the Banner family tree. They're
able to absorb gamma rays differently than other people, like
their blood types. Okay. Anyway, so that was the first

(16:36):
episode and was like really compelling, and the second episode
was fine, and then like the next six were like
not very good.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Like why do we need why do we need ten
episodes of she Hulk? Why can't I be a two
hour movie.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
By the end? That was my question too. There is
a lot of like legal issues with like the Hulk character,
Like thought like there were legal issues like a procedural
on the show, just like it's like one after the other,
but like they can't like Marvel cannot release a solo
Hulk movie because it's own because those rights are owned

(17:16):
by Universal.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Oh kind of a Spider Man situation. Yeah, whatever happened?
Howd the Spider Man situation resolved? Did Marvel end up
with it?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
They? No, I mean they still Sony still owns Spider Man,
but they are apparently from what I have read on
you know, all my cool like ESPN dot com, that
they're working on a new deal that would keep Spider
Man available to the Marvel cinema. Oh it's cool, it's
like they'd share them. Yeah. Uh. Anyway, the last two

(17:45):
episodes of she Hulk were actually pretty good. My main
complaint with the show is that it's like the CGI
is so bad it's distracting, So why do it? Yeah? Yeah,
that's exactly I mean, that's exactly my point. Like why
would you not shelf it for another three months so
that you can get like like tight.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
We'll also get a little bit more hype behind it, right,
maybe it raise a little bit more money to fix
the grapd.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, and it looks like I keep comparing it to
Tom Hanks in a Polar Express. Yeah, like that's how
bad the CGI like was from start to finish in
this show, and so like it like it took me
out of it, you know, like it's so bad it
took me out of it. Then there's an episode with
Megan the Stallion. It was like yeah, and then she

(18:34):
hooks to working with Megan the Stallion. What Yeah, I
mean it, what are we doing? Yeah? No, it's a
what is it? Something? But does everything need to include everything? Now?
Like that's important?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, like every superhero movie needs to have some pop crossover.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, I think I think the big thing is just
is crossing over her overall, like I and don't get
me wrong, I love it, but I can see where
people would be like, Okay, this is too much, you know,
like like apparently so Marvel released uh this this uh
Werewolf by Night and apparently is real scary spooky, Yeah, spooky.

(19:15):
But at the end, I guess it gives you like like, oh,
like what else this Werewolf by Night is going to
pop up in? I don't. I don't know more more
more what it is? Morbius is the Sony owned vampire,
and Morpheus is Lawrence Fishburn. Morpheus is Laurence Fishburn and

(19:39):
the Matrix and Mobius is Owen Wilson's character in the
Loki TV show. Did they run? I mean, obviously we
only have twenty six letters, but what's going on? It's yeah,
it seems seems like maybe you could mix it up
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
So okay, so I'm assuming you have Disney Plus I do. Yeah,
here's the here's the big question.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Okay, I think once I asked this question, you'll understand
the implications of me asking this question. Have you watched
the new Pinocchio? No? No, what's top I have? I
have not? Uh, I don't know. You see, it's not
that I'm not interested because I've heard things, but I

(20:25):
haven't watched it because when you have when you have children,
you have a very limited amount of time that you
can watch what you want to watch. And I think
that I don't think I know the little one that
I have it would would not be interested. And I'm
not so sure Caroline, my two year old would. I
don't know who that movie's for. Did you watch it? No? Man? Oh, okay,

(20:48):
talk dude, Come on, dude, it's like that we just
had that meaning about don't bring something up no one.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Well, dude, I haven't seen it because you I mean,
did they shoot it in Greece for Tom Eggs?

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Okay? Did they have to? Did they have to shoot
all of Pinocchio in Greece? I think just google it, guys.
Facts are truth is out there. But no, man, these dude,
these emojis, man have got me fired. No.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
I I just I haven't seen Pinocha. I haven't heard
anything about it since it came out. I saw I
saw like a scene and it just creamed me out
because it's like.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Well, Pinocchio overall. And I actually watched Pinocchio within the
last couple of years. Like pern Gear, I actually watched
it in the last couple of years and it is
kind of a creepy movie. I mean it's weird overall,
Like it's really weird. Like I had I had remembered
that they go to like Fantasy Island or whatever. But

(21:50):
it's like when they started turning into goats donkeys. I mean,
I'm like, oh my god, that is crazy. And I
bet they did that in the real one. That's probably
pretty would think, I mean, what's your favorite kids movie?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Like if you had to, if you had to put
your finger on it, what's the movie that has the
most value in terms of you today, Like you you'd
watch it again and you'd be like, this is great.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Maybe top couple. I so and I watched this movie
probably once a month. Okay, uh, I would say no,
Like Number one is a goofy movie, Okay, Like I
I legitimately believe that is the most underrated Disney movie.

(22:33):
Like the music is fantastic in it. It's a fun
like father Son's story. There's not really any like controversial
moments in it. It's just fun. It's just fun. It's cute,
Like yeah, like is it groundbreaking like Beauty and the
Beast or like Little Mermaid. No, but those brown, brown, groundbreaking.
They were brown baking ground bak. What uh why were

(22:56):
those two? Why was Beating the Beasts? Well, Beating the
Beast was a first anime movie to be nominated for
Best Picture, and.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
They had a lot of like sweeping crane shots in
that movie that were really right, really cool.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
And Little Mermaid is I think like the music is
probably number one wise like transcendent, and they they were like,
it's a different type of animation than what Disney. It
was like it was like the welcome back like Disney.
Disney animated movies come in waves, you know, like like
they'll have like four or five slammers and then it'll
go down like two or three and then it comes

(23:29):
back up. And like Little Mermaid launched kind of what's
their new stuff? What's like a new animated Disney thing?
So the what just came out? Because something just came out?
They all look like Pixar movies now, right. Yeah, Well,
there's a sequel coming for Princess and the Frog, which
is going to be like traditional animated.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Fun fact, my ex girlfriend m is the motion capture
model for the Blonde Princess really, so all the body
movement was captured from her.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
So when so when you watch these movies.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I've never I don't ever. I think I've seen Princess
and the Frog once. I just didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
I knew that, and I was like, I should watch this,
and I made it probably ten minutes, and I was like,
not for me. I'm trying to think of like because
actually Disney's back on like another like another, like high
but it I mean maybe I also feel something that
I don't remember what the last one.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I feel like they go in like regional kicks because
I feel like it wasn't Princess and the Frog.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's like a New Orleans thing, right yeah. And I
feel like they're on like a Hawaii kick right now.
Well yeah, where all their stuff's like Hawaii. I know
you love Lelo and Stitch. Dude, I like that big
guy that sings Oh that's my that's my jam, dude,
Hawaiian roller coaster running. I have never I have never

(24:53):
seen Lelo and Stitch. And I actually read an article
about Lelo and Stitch a couple of weeks ago, specifically
like why it's so popular now is because if you
go if you go to Disneyland, like there's weirdly a
lot of Leelo and Stitch merchandise. Oh, I wouldn't and
I wouldn't think it. You know, it's probably right after

(25:14):
you know, it's when I was like super cool and
what was like watch to Lift Weights. But I've never
seen it. But and I've always been so confused, like
seeing the little guy just on like backpacks and stuff
all over Disneyland. And apparently it's like like a sisterly tale,

(25:37):
like it's a first, like it's the first Disney animated
movie specifically on like a family dynamic featuring two like
like a pair of sisters and the like. The article was,
here's why Leelo and Stitch is better than Frozen, so
because Frozen is also you get that famous line mahalo
means family. I think it's not mahallow. I don't know.

(26:02):
I've never seen the movie. Mwana means fam. Yeah, mo
wanna ma wanna and Stitch.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I would say, if I had to, if I had
to put my finger on it, the the movie that
I could watch over and over, i'd have fast forward
the beginning a little bit.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Hook Oh yeah, hooks, hooks banging. Dude, Oh, I thought
we were just talking animated movies. I didn't realize weird
including did I say little kid movies? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Also, I mean I got a fast forward because it's
just like I don't care give me because you.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Know they in that movie, Remember the doctor comes because
the kids are sick or something. The little girl's sick
and the doctor walks in doctors Phil Collins, Oh really yeah,
I don't know if you knew that. It's just a lot.
You know what's so weird about Hook is that I
didn't realize how it bombed. It was a bomb, really
a bomb when it came out. I remember, like we

(26:55):
would go to J and S Video and I would
always want to rent Hook. I loved that last scene
where the Lost Boys take on the pirates.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, it's so exciting. It's like Home Alone. Yeah, it's
like the Home Alone scene were you gotta keep re
winding and then they I think.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
The fact kid down the stairs. I don't think that's
a move you can make to that. I don't think
you can make a like a chubby kid be a
bowling ball. True, and in the way he's like, you're
doing it, Peter, Peter, you're doing it. I say that
all the time in my house. Caitlyn, you're doing it

(27:35):
and that kid the like the main the main kid
in it, No, oh, the kid from American Pie or
can Hardy Wade. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say he was
in Cam Harley Wade so and he's.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
A total dorc in that movie, but he's like kind
of cool and the I dude, I need somebody. I
saw you showed it to me the trailer for the
New Peter Pan where they're like, don't go with them.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, we need more of that. Yeah. Yeah, it's like
it's a like Peter Pan is a like a predator. See,
I've been on.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I've been on literally probably while I was still drinking.
I thought it'd be cool if there was like a
predatory Peter Pan movie where Captain Hook. You get the
side because Captain Hook is trying to get the Lost Boys, right,
he's trying to you think he's trying to kidnap the
Lost Boys, but actually he's trying to rescue the Lost
Boys from Peter aka Michael Jackson.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I well, you know what, like the deal is with
like that that stuff, right, like with why the New
Winny the like the Winnie the Pooh movie that's coming
out that's like a horror movie.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
See is that like small that looks small budget to me?
That didn't look like an actual.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Scared I think, well, yeah, I think it is small budget.
But I but the reason that like companies, even small companies,
can use it now is because those all the rights
to those movies and those characters are expiring because they're
like because seventy years old. Yeah, yeah, because you know whatever,
Like Disney's just letting them run them run am uk.

(29:08):
Well it's weird that they wouldn't like put the by
the rights again. Yeah, I mean maybe they're thinking, like, well,
like we still can use it.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Do you know it's not true that Walt Disney has
his brain frozen? I went down, dude, I went down
a dark rabbit hole in Disney one.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
You just live in dark rabbit It feels good. It
just it's just where where your red's button? Did you
see that Blake Shelton's leading the voice? I did see that.
Did you watch the Voice? I watched, I mean a
handful episode. I don't think I've ever watched like an
entire season. Is that the one Howard Stern was on
Its on America's Got Talent? We we loved America's Got Talent?

(29:49):
Who else is on a GC? Sharon Osborne? Uh, Sharon
Osborne was? I think she left because of Howard, But
I think now it's Howie Mandel, Heidi Klue, Simon Cowell
and there's one other. But I haven't I mean, I
haven't won. What do they get if they win? Now
I think it, Well, if they win, we're talking about

(30:11):
two different shows. Well theo okay, America's Got Talent, America's
got down you yeah, you win. It's it's it's literally
like a weekend residency that's in Vegas and a million
dollars I believe. Okay, that's worth.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I was gonna say how many residencies because they did
like they have to be on season twenty five.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, and I all, But I will also say that
the term residency in Vegas has changed a lot. True.
Like I when I like when we were growing up
and in our twenties, like I heard Vegas residency, all
I thought was like the Osmonds or like Wayne Nwdon
Yeah yeah yeah, And but now it's it's pivoting where

(30:50):
it's just like any artists can come in and if
they're there for even if it's just a week. They
call it a residence. Ah, I don't like that. No,
I don't like it. I don't like it either because
it makes it like the term residency makes me think like, Okay,
well they're going to be here a while, like an yeah, yeah, No,
I would think even longer than that. I would think
like six months minimum. That's interesting because that's when you're

(31:12):
a resident.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
True, well what uh, who's got Katy Perry's got a residency?
That's actually Lady Gaga have one.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
I think the Black Eyed Peas have one coming, Maroon
five has one come. How would you go to a
Black Eyed Well? How many hits does Black Eyed Peas have?
I mean, if if you go back in a catalog,
I mean when when I was on doing nights on
a Top forty station, I mean the Black Eyed Peas,
anytime they'd release the song it was, I guess it

(31:42):
did have immediate play. They had that one album that
had Yeah. I think there was two albums that really hit,
like hit after hit after hit. But I think when
Fergie left is when you know, the wheels kind of
fell off. How did you handle that? When left? I
was did you know at the time the that album

(32:05):
I can't remember the name of it. Furglicious probably. Uh.
It was the fastest growing, her fastest rising album on
iTunes ever. Oh really, yeah it went. I bought it.
I remember I bought it on iTunes because I was like,
this is a yeah it was, yeah, it was. It
was the it was like the fastest growing. It was

(32:26):
like day one, number one, and then it was number
one for like months. Oh, speaking of we have an
exclusive on the podcast today. Oh we do.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, we got told. You know, we're not supposed to
We're not technically supposed to play songs right.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
In their entirety.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, we got to treat We're gonna play the world
premiere of the new blackbout any song right now.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
We have the rights, right, I mean, I mean I
feel like you just set it up, so, I mean
we have to have you heard it. I have heard it.
I listened to it twice on the way here. Well,
I get in trouble if I just queue it up
and I don't want to hear it. I just want
to hear it. I just want to hear it. So
I got a call, right, Okay, So when we're setting
this up, the the our program director got to listen

(33:13):
to the song on Wednesday and he was like, we
should think about premiering this on the show on Friday.
He's like, he's like, honestly, it's it's it's catchy, like
it's it's as much as anything else. It's like a
I mean this, This tour sold out so fast.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Tickets were wait, dude, you were trying to buy tickets yesterday? Yeah,
or two days ago when they went on sale, Yeah,
and you would.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
It was just the presale like wow, like they like yeah.
And then he called me. He called me yesterday and
he was like, hey, uh yeah. The rep said not
to play the song on Kiss because they're focusing specifically
on like alternative of rock right now. Okay, So why

(34:03):
wouldn't you want your I don't know what a dumb thing.
I don't I don't understand, like why would you not
want everyone to hear it? But I don't know if
that's like if it's like they're concerned about if they
can get nominated for Grammys, because there's a whole thing.
I saw Nicki Minaj her song was changed from a

(34:26):
rap song to a pop song, and she was like
pissed off about it. She's pretty paved and I wondered,
Yeah she was she was pe, she was pee, But no, dude,
this like this week as as agonizing, it was work wise.
When that announcement came on Tuesday, it was like Christmas

(34:47):
for me. Yeah, it was like like and for those
who don't know, Blank Win A two is like a
like a band, uh and and very influential on my life,
like from like sixth grade on. And they they they
broke up when I was in college, then they got

(35:07):
back together, then they broke up again, and it seemed
like it was like permanent and it's been I didn't
realize this, it's been nine years since they were like together. Really. Yeah.
Was Neighborhoods their last album they did, so they they
did Neighborhoods and then they did like an EP, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Dogs Eating Dogs and they was that what it was
called dogs eating Dogs that kind of that was a
great it is really good.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
That's got some really good songs. Yeah, and then they
released So the band released two albums without Tom DeLong
and added Matt Skiva from from Out from Alkaline Tree
and the Tree from from the al co Celta three

(35:56):
and so so they released you know, they released these
albums and I love the I love those albums too. Uh,
they're different, very different. But this this single is like
kind of what you want? Is it?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
So the song is called edging? Is it about edging?
It the practice of edging it?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Is that what? Like the third line in the song
is pretty like graphic? Yeah, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
But you think do you think do you think it's
about Do you think that's because it's a time.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I think it's intentional. Okay, I think it's intention.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Because yeah, that was always their thing there there. Their
stuff was always about sexual and innu went. I can't
wait to hear it. I'm excited. I now I have
something to listen to on the way home.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, and I can't. They haven't announced when the actual
album is out, but uh, i've I've I have spent
like an embarrassing amount of money on Blink wenty two
things this week. You get, I got, well, I got
the tickets, which was like the biggest expense. Uh, and
then I got I got a vinyl and I and

(37:07):
then like immediately, I don't know what's wrong with me.
Like sometimes like it's just like I just see something
and I buy it and it's like most things that
I buy, Like this shirt, this shirt I'm wearing right now.
It took me three weeks to decide whether or not
I wanted it. What does it say? Ya? No cater
it says Yadier Molina. Is there catcher for the Oh cool?

(37:33):
Oh yeah, that's right. I'm wearing my Phillies. I know
you did it just to just despie me. You're big
Phillies fan. You really love the sports game, dude. I mean,
you spent a lot of money on Blakeolny two stuff.
I bought the Nolan Ryan documentary on laser disc and
it's good, dude, It's I don't know. I did not
know a thing about Nolan Ryan, Like I I had

(37:55):
no idea and like zero things about Nolan Ryan. The
thing I didn't like.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
About it was how it was, Uh, it just went
and does like how it's like here's where I grew up.
I don't care talk about baseball. Yeah, I really don't
even care about the baseball.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
I'm just like, I want to where is it? Where
is it on Netflix? It's called Facing Nolan? Is it
one of the No? No, it's just like its own thing.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
I'm pretty sure there's like a celebrity doing the voice,
like the narration and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Oh h, I enjoyed it. It was it was nice.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
It was a nice break after watching like Midnight Club
and the Dahmer stuff. It's cool to watch just like
an old guy talk about baseball.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
When it comes to Spooky season, are you do you
go the opposite way? Because I feel like you live
in that in that world kind of all the time.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, you know what, I think I've taken a break
from Spooky and Gore and I have replaced it with
other things that you know about which we don't need
to get into on the podcast, but.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
It's probably why we yes.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
But I don't know, man, I think like there's been
Like I'm also realizing it's the stuff we talked about
on the show. I'm realizing that it's not the new stuff.
Isn't for me necessarily. Yeah, it's like for hot teens.
I'm not a hot teenager. Like Midnight Club is about
sixteen to eighteen year olds dying there in hospice and

(39:23):
it's like they have like teenager problems, and I'm like,
I'm watching, I'm like, this is.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
A good show, but I don't relate to it. My
dad was in. He was, Oh, that's the reason I
don't participant in the Spookie season, dude. I get it. Man.
Remember when we summoned your dad in the studio, like,
was that the weeknd? Oh my god, no, no, dude,
it was like, yeah, it was. It was really close,

(39:49):
like the Iron It was inappropriately close. It was I
want to say it was. My dad died in September.
We had that the psychic on in October and the
gentleman ran just sprints down the hall, Nick Nick, Nick,

(40:09):
we need you out here now. I'm like, okay, what's
going on? And I walk in and they're like, we're
talking to your desk but no, and I was like,
you know this, I have very conflicting feelings on what's happening.
Like this they brought in.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
They brought in a spirit box and I can't remember
what the word was, but it sounded like maybe it
said Nick, Oh, is that what it was like?

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I don't know what I ever got like like I
but I do remember making the joke and making Susette
feel incredibly uncomfortable because I was like, well, when my
dad died, he didn't have his jaw, so it makes
sense you can't understand him now and it's just like,
I like, I have a much like closer friendship with
Susette now than I did then. And at the time

(40:58):
she looked at me and was just like like, why
would you Why would you say something? Where are you at?
Where are you out on ghosts and psychics and stuff? Goats? Goats?
Yeah or goats. I believe in goats. I mean I believe.
I do not believe in psychics, dude, Like, end of story?

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Can I can I talk about a psychic experience?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
I don't. I don't think I welcome it.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I don't think I've talked about it on here out
of fear of it getting back to the person. It
wasn't okay, it was a random It was a new
psychic that was introduced to the radio stations and.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
A new psychic.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't the one we there's there's a
psychic that's kind of the go to on the show
that we worked for because I'm talking about how to
become a terrible first Yeah. No, But there was a
psychic that I had a meeting with and I did
like a radio bit with and they were like bringing
a picture of somebody who's passed away. And I brought
it in this picture of this guy who I was

(41:55):
friends with in high school. I hadn't talked to in
probably fifteen years, and I just found out he fell.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Off a mountain and died.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Okay, hilarious way to die. And like everybody back home was,
you know what a hero?

Speaker 1 (42:11):
What?

Speaker 2 (42:11):
And I was just like I'm not. I was like,
you fell off a mountain. Guy was a loser. You
lived in the woods like he just of course he
fell off a mountain.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Like it's like, and I don't mean to interrupt, it's like,
what is that What was that guy's name that lived
in uh? He went to live in that bus in Alaska?
Into the guy, It's like, yeah, dude, of course you died.
He died of diarrhea. He literally you were you. You
lived in affluent life until you decide if you weren't
going to and you don't, you don't have survival right instead.

(42:42):
And that's fine. But just because you do it and
then you die, it doesn't mean that it's not like
some great martyr for outdoorsman. So yeah, So I printed
out a picture of this guy who was kind of
a jerk in high school, truthfully, and I took it
in and the psychic goes, oh my god, he's here
with us.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I was immediately like instantly okay, and I was like wow.
And she goes, what's his name and I was like,
it's Matt. And he goes, well, Matt wants you to
know that he doesn't he he he's comfortable, and that
he you don't not to worry about him anymore.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
And I was just thinking in my head, I was like,
I wasn't worried about I wasn't worried.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
And then she's like, you know, you guys always bonded
over music, and she just was pulling.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Stuff out of the air well. It's like like the
psychic trick right where it's just like she's reading me.
She she's reading you. Maybe you're wearing a Whitney Houston
T shirt. She's like, and she's like, oh, yeah, he
really loves up. Yeah, dude, he's he's just uh. But
it was it was a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
You know, he he he forgives you, and he's sorry
that your relationship wasn't better. Towards the end, I was like, no, dude, okay,
But because I was on the radio, I didn't want
to be like the rule of improv is yes and right.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah, I didn't want to be like no. But and
then I proceeded to get out of and she she
told me this whole message, and she like started getting
teary eye and really laying it on.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I got my picture taking with her, and I never
reposted it. I was just like, this is just and
I didn't want to be like, you're a fraud. But
I also I don't know, I just don't believe it. Yeah,
it's like also too, it's like this, do you know
who Zach Baggins is? Ghost encounters? You ever heard of
that shows?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I've heard ghost encounters, but.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, it's like bros hunting ghosts and they're like, come
over here, I heard something. Yeah, it's like nothing nothing. Ever,
they've made thousands of hours of television. They've never caught
a ghost on tape. They've never caught a ghost actually
hurting someone on tape. Why are we afraid of ghosts?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I and I do believe in ghosts, Like I do
believe that there's there's probably a middle ground between like
in after life and living living. Uh, but I've never
encountered a ghost.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
You know, I have, dude, I've I've encountered ghosts, and
I still am like skeptical.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
You're like, no, this is the casper fucking walks through
the door and you're like, nah, no, I told you
I lived in a house where sorry sorry, I wasn't
supposed to say the F word. I'm sorry. Anyway, guy
killed himself in this house I lived in, and uh, hilarious, Yeah, hilarious.
And I had his room. It's just even cooler.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Uh, but he killed himself in the garage and he
know he's and like, one day, I remember I was
home by myself and I thought I saw my roommate
walked down the hallway wearing a flannel shirt, and I
was like, oh, hey man, hey, I know you were home.
The door is shuts. I'm like, cool, dude, what a dick. Yeah,
that guy's being a dick. And then like an hour
or two later, the guy walks in the front door

(45:50):
and he's like, hey, man, what's up. I was like, hey, dude,
you've been haven't you been in your room? And he's like, no, dude,
I'm literally just getting home. And I said, well, the guy,
a guy wearing a flannel shirt, was in like walking
down the hall and he's like, oh, you met Phil
or Bob and apparently they had had all these interactions
with this dude. And he goes and this guy killed

(46:12):
himself in the garage, and he takes me on the garage,
shows me a picture of a guy behind like a
drum set, and he's like and it's the dude I
saw in the hallway.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
And I was like, oh, Gore. And now you're like,
now you know who's kind of convinced me that go cereal?
Dan Ackroyd, Yeah, he is. He is so into that
world that he like and from it like a scientific
level that you listen to one interview with him talking

(46:41):
about talking about ghosts, you know, sitting there chain smoking, drinking,
drinking vodka rocks.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
But I have a feeling also dan Akroyd is the
type of guy that will point out that Tom Hanks
lives in Greece now.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
He seems like the type maybe dank. Also, Dan ar
Craig got kinda he kind of let himself go a
little bit, kind of he got big, dude, Yeah, boy
got big.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, what happened? I don't know. He ate Chris Farley
and also what happened like Egan, what's his name, Harol
Ramis before he died? Oh? I was? I was like, Grant,
I need to be the one to tell you Harol
Ramis is he passed away. Did you like the New Ghostbusters?
I actually really liked Yeah. I thought it was fun.

(47:29):
That girl in it is so likable. She came in here,
didn't you? Yeah? No, no, she wasn't here. We just
heard we took a phone call. She assumed it. Oh yeah.
I was so mad because I had Ghostbusters trivia ready
to go, but then the interview went long outside of
the Ghostbuster trivia, so we didn't even get to play.
I was, I was, really, what's her name something? Grace McKenna, Grace.

(47:51):
They were like, have you ever tried Sam Cells? We'd
love to talk about the movie, but if you tried
sem Cells, we ran out of time. I'm sorry we
can't talk about the movie. Uh, just getting jokes shot
a stem cell. Are you doing Are you doing anything
to the transhumanist stuff? Are you getting into living longer?

(48:15):
Are you trying? Are you If neuralink came out tomorrow,
like Elon Musk if he was like, hey, dude, it
works like you have a computer in your brain. Now
would you be like, oh, that's something I'm interested in.
I would like to live a long and healthy life,
but I don't know how far out of my way

(48:38):
I'm gonna do that, you know, Like, like I really
don't fear like getting old, Like I think it's weird.
I think it's I think it's really weird that we're
thirty six years old. I think it's because thirty six
when we're kids sounded like, oh my gosh, it's so old.
And I remember like my parents would have like forty

(48:59):
year old birthday part parties you're over the hill, you know,
for like their friends and whatever. But like at this
point when my mom was thirty six years old, like
she had been married, divorced, had five kids and two
step kids. So like I have, I have two that

(49:22):
are two and under, and I don't know, I I
outside of this chronic knee pain that I have, Like
I don't know, I feel pretty good. That said, like
I would like to be around, but I don't want
to be around too long, you know what I mean. Yeah,
like with my grandma, Like when my grandma started like

(49:43):
going down the hill, uh she you know, she would
say like like we we went there one last time
to see her, you know, back in Illinois, and we
brought our daughter. And this is not me getting emotional.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
This is me trying to hold uh he's lying to you,
the listener.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Me trying to hold it up, burp. But we was
so we brought her and she was she she's all
like almost completely blind, almost completely deaf. She's like one
of those dogs. She's like one of those they're just
bumping into furniture like she had just had she just

(50:26):
broke her hip, like all this stuff was happening, and
I was sitting there with her, and she goes Joel
because she didn't remember who was in the room with her.
Who's Joel, my brother Joel. Sometimes I just I just
I've outlived my I've outlived my time here. I've outlived

(50:49):
my time here. And then she died a month later.
Uh So I don't want to get to that point,
you know, like it's not worth like putting my you know,
whoever's in my life through the agony of like something
like Alzheimer's or dementia or something like that. Like if
I it great, I live to one hundred years old,

(51:10):
But if I can't remember the last ten ten years,
Like that's not that's not worth it. So I don't
know if I would necessarily like I don't know. There's
also like do you ever feel like there's just too
many people? Oh dude, it's just like wait wait, it's
just like like I feel like we're at a precipice

(51:35):
in in the world, in this country where it's like
people are so focused on like like oh my god,
I do this, this and this and this to like
make myself live longer. And when it's like, you know,
sometimes nature is due maybe the best.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
When the party's over. Man parties over. Like I'm talking like, well,
my hair's gone, it's.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Going mm hm. You know yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Like I think it'd be really cool to like have
like a really horrific last memory. Like I remember there
was a guy at the crematory, but he was in
a head on car accident on the like the highway,
and the look on his face when I opened up
the box.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
He had a hole in his head and he just
was looking at me.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Like and I was like, how cool would it be
to have like a crazy last memory? And then all
of a sudden it just like boots up and you're
like roebook. You're like I thought I was a gunner,
and then you're like.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
You're like fighting, like your bones are popping back. It's
like the like the weird movie things you have, No,
you have a you have a gun. That's just like
in your hip Freeze Citizen, Like, I mean I'll take
vitamin Like, do you count vitamins? Yeah, dude, you're totally transhumanist. Dude, Dude,

(52:51):
you're getting on a slippery slope. Caitlin Kaitlyn my Caitlin
not well, I mean you're just probably gave it to
her whatever. Yeah, uh Mike, Caitlyn brought home uh like
collagen powder. Oh yeah yeah, and it like I didn't
even know what it was. I just started pouring into
my waters and apparently it's like some kind of dietary supplement.

(53:12):
But I but it's in collagen, like what people get
injected into their face. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I think it does. I think it does a lot
of stuff for like cell growth. I think I don't know.
I'm no doctor.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Because there's a cow on the label. Well here's it.
Is it beef based? Well?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
This was this was what I was gonna say when
you say collagen because I was going to start taking
beef organs like they put them in pill for them, Okay,
and it's like it's really really good for you really,
but that's like in terms of vitality that sort.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Of thing, hmmm, like how you feel, how you sleep.
But dude, I'm also dude, I'm I'm gonna start doing
cycle A steroids. Man. I know you brought that up
to me the other day. I'm getting on the juice, man.
I was like, I'm interested to see where this goes.
I'm gonna get on. Also, these passive aggressive moments may.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Grant rants are going to turn sideways, dude with no
but I'm seriously I'm thinking about taking TRT, which is
testosterone replacement therapy if I can get out the words,
and it's like cost effective and apparently it makes guys
like our age feel like you're in your twenties.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
So you kind of are in that dude, I will go,
I will. I want to do the cool. The only
reason I want to get into TRT is because I
want to tell people I'm taking steroids, you know what
I mean. I just think that's cool. I think I
told you this when we were in Mexico, Like I had.
I had no idea, like you can just buy like

(54:40):
any drug you want there, like just over the counter,
like no big deal. And there was a part of
me that was, like, you really sell HGH here, I
can just I can just get HGH. You come back
from me, see from your vacation with like a head
that's like eight sizes, but my beard is to my ankle.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
You literally like I feel like HGH looks like Mickey Rooney.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Okay, Like if you do h enough HGH or if
you take enough pills, your head's gonna get that big.
And I don't have any scientific proof that that's you
just feel like that. I just feel like taking pills
makes your head big. Interesting, call me crazy. I'm no
scientist cow cow pills though, but yeah, I'm dude, I'm
gonna get juiced up. No, but I want to do

(55:29):
steroids and just not do any exercise. I mean that
is one way to sit on my couch angry. Just
your exercise. Like your thumbs get really they get they
get really muscular. My forearms are just huge.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
No, have you ever made are you wanna? Are you wanna?
You you grill out right? You like try to Yeah,
your steak guy, Yeah, what kind of steak? What do
you buy when you're just grilling out?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Steak wise? Well, steak wise. If I'm buying steaks, I
buy like kind of nicer steaks because I prefer like
with a bone, like a t bone. See I get,
I get bone in for me. Okay, make a t
bone for me. But Jane, then I get something. You know,
so what do you get? I don't know, just whatever

(56:24):
file a just like you get like you got like
a thirty five dollars te bone steak and then you
just mash up some ground beef in the form of no, no,
this is steak. Yeah, it's delicious. But honestly, I like
I and I know you're gonna get into this, but
I like, I prefer pork chops, oh yeah to steak.
So that's that's where my bread's buttered a little bit.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
That's interesting. Pork family, well, I just its like, does
Kaitlin like pork.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
You're yeah, well we grew. I mean there there would
be like pork burgers, pork chop, like pork like whole
like fried things on like on our town square once
a week, like they would like some whatever, you know,
four Ah club or whatever. Like, oh we have we
have pork burgers this week, and and they were so

(57:13):
freaking good. Uh and my grand my grandpa's the same way,
like he prefers a good pork chop to a steak. Anyway,
what kind of steak do you buy?

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Well, I mean I bought the wrong one last night.
Oh no, no, so Blue Apron, by the way, shout
out to not Blue Apron. I'm canceling my membership. That
place sucks.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
You were you were really in on Blue Dude. I've
had my last three weeks.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
I've had either all my ingredients destroyed in the box,
like they're in the box taped up, but there's somehow
smashed box is totally fine, or I don't get the box,
or like last night I got the It was a
supposed to be a flank steak, right, just like a
garbage piece of meat. I pull it out of the
container and it's purple. Oh, like, it's like purple, and

(57:58):
then I read. I was like, if it's purple, as
it's good, and they're like, let it sit out in
the oxygen, it'll turn red. I'm like, okay, I can
do that. But by the time it was time to
grill it. I just said, you know what, I'm not
comfortable with this. I don't know what I'm looking for
in a steak, So I just said, screw it. I
threw it away. So I go to the store. I
buy two loins something something prime prime loin anyway, I

(58:26):
don't know what it was, but it wasn't like. I
get out of the it looks amazing at the package.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I get it home. I started to put it rob
it and I realized it's like really tough, and it's
got like tendons and stuff on the inside. No bone,
but it's just and it's like then I'm like, oh crap.
So I put it on the George Forman grill right
m And then I got I got cauliflower in the
air fryer, trying a new recipe with that, and I
got squashed in the I'm sorry, what squash dude, I'm

(58:53):
making mash squash And you thought I was just gonna
let that go.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I know, it's it's just fun to say. It's way
cooler to say squash, So I was gonna have some.
It was this new recipe for mashed squash.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
It mashed squash, dude.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Yeah, So it basically you put in the oven for
thirty four minutes and then it's you take it out
and then you scoop it out of the squash casing
and then you mash.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Mash it up. No, wait, is this spaghetti squash? No, no, no,
it's just normal.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
It's just like a it looks like a I mean,
for lack of a better ternament, it looks like a
very balbous penis and balls.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Cool. Yeah, it's like that shape. It's like it also
tastes like because it did last night.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Okay, So I take it out of the oven, and
I'm I got everything timed out. So I got my
caullfwer at a certain time, got the squash, and then
I got the the beef, and I'm like, okay, dude,
I've got it all timed out. I take the squash
out of the oven and I start to scooping out,
and I realized it's still hard like on the inside.
It's been in the oven for thirty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
At four hundred and fifty degrees, not like a light temperature,
and there is no like more frustrating thing, like like
sweet potatoes. I don't understand why I can't cook a
sweet potato all the way through, but perhaps no matter
how long I keep it in there, it just doesn't cook.
And you're just like, what the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
So I just was like, there went forty minutes, and
then I look and I opened my air fryer and
I realized that ninety percent of my cauliflower is completely burnt.
I'm like, great, so there's a batting like. So I
scoop all the squash out, dump it in a bowl,
and I'm throw in the microwave for like two minutes.
I'm just like, this will soften it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah. Then I mashed that up. Taste it tastes terrible.
I'm like crap. And then while all this is happening,
I'm panicking. I'm spiraling. And then I realized, oh crap.
I left the steaks on the George Forman girl. I
open them up and they're the most unappealing brown, Like
they're not like burnt, they don't have like a seer.
They're just like unappetizing brown. And then I go to

(01:00:59):
cut it and it takes me like forty five seconds
to cut through it. And I'm thinking, I'm gonna feed
this to my girlfriend. So I put it. I plate
everything and I go, Kate, this is gonna suck.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
This is this is bad. And she's like, well, you're
really selling it. And then so I sit down with
her plate and she takes it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Boy, the squash. She's like, squash is a man. And
then I cut a piece of the meat and I
cut like a probably smaller than my thumb size, put
in my mouth and I chew it for like probably
two minutes. And then Kate's looking at me, and I'm
just just trying to chew this thing out right, and
I just I spit the steak onto my plate and

(01:01:37):
I stand up, walk over the trash can and dump
everything on my plate into the trash can.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
And she's like, what what is happening? And I like
basically tell her, I go, don't eat it. I overthrown
this way. We're starting over. I go, what do you want?

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
It's eight o'clock now, right, Like, what what's open? What
can I get? And so we go to McDonald's and uh,
we have McDonald's last night. Do what'd you get? I
got a big mac meal? Me too? Oh? Hey, would
you get to drink Coca cool Classic? Whoa dude with
sugar full of sugar? Oh? Yeah no, what dude, I

(01:02:12):
got two kids, got gotta get something to keep me motivated.
You're out of control. Yeah, man. You know what's so
funny is like as you're going through this and I
just like I'm putting myself in your in your shoes
and in that scenario, like that's every meal I cook
for me. It's like I just kick for whatever reason,
Like I tense up when I cook, like outside of grilling,

(01:02:33):
like grilling, I'm I'm pretty yeah, I get all right,
I'm getting all right at but like as far as
like recipes go and stuff like, I get so stressed out,
like trying to just put like like what would be
normal meals together. Uh. But I was also going to say,
like I I don't hate the like kind of the

(01:02:54):
alternative dieting. If we're we're going to relate it back
to like living longer, sure, like like I will like
mashed cauliflower instead of mashed potatoes, Like that's fine with me.
You know. Uh, I actually don't mind like cauliflower crossed
pizza either. I hate that to me, tastes so bad.
I think if you get the right one, but it's

(01:03:16):
like one in like fifty I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Went to California Pizza Kitchen and literally almost flipped over
the table. So I was like, this is thirty bucks
and I have to pay for it because now it's
at the table, but I'm not going to eat any
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
That was so mad. Uh, there's a Trader Joe's makes
a there's a Califower pizza crust. That's that's all right,
but yeah no, it's like because you're talking about squash,
like we like spaghetti squash instead of spaghetti. Yeah, Like
I actually like, I really take spaghetti instead of traditional positive.

(01:03:52):
That's so good. That one's really good, really good. And
I'm not even a pancake guy like me either. That
was really good. I'm a waffle guy, dude. Oh yeah,
oh oh, I'll take a waffle over like the most
delicious pancakes. Have you been to waffle House lately? Not lately.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I went like a month ago, maybe month and a
half ago, and I was like, thinking, I think their
waffles got smaller.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Well really, I think so they're like dinner plates.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah, but I think they made their plate smaller because
I remember back in the day you got a waffle
House waffle, it was gigantic, and they have the they're
like the Little Groove.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Do you get hash buruns? Oh yeah? Cover bro yeah yeah.
Let me just talk about how we you know, doing
better and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
No, dude, I dude, I'm gonna be straight up honest.
I've talked about this on the on my podcast for
the last several weeks. I gained like thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Pounds over the last couple of months. Thirty pounds, dude. Wow,
I went from one from like, I went from one
to fifty what dude, No, I went from uh I
was about one ninety to now I'm about to twelve
to fifteen. Really yeah, I was you don't look it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
I was two fifteen a couple of weeks ago, and
then I was like, I got a reel this sign.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
I think I lost a bunch of weight. They say
that that it's a sign that you're in a like
a healthy relationship. Gaining weight, gaining weight, you're like comfortable
in you. Yeah, I mean I think so. On the
other end of the spectrum, I from when my first
child was born to now I'm down sixty pounds oh

(01:05:27):
no shit, yeah wow. And actually and I haven't weighed
myself recently, but it's like literally the only thing I'm
credited to is a and just chase around children. And
two I'm not drinking as much. So it's like it
also makes me wonder, like was I drinking too much?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
What's the thing, dude is I was like, I didn't
lose any weight when I stopped drinking. Really, I know,
I was very active, well drinker when I was drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
And I don't like, how often were you like taking
down like a case of beer. It was more like
a like a bottle, right bottle of the bottle of Yeah,
there's some calories, there's calories still, but towards the end,
I was drinking like three forties of King Kobra, which
has to have a lot of Oh yeah, yeah, I would,
I would assume. But yeah, I mean mine, mine is

(01:06:16):
all all beer weight. And I like, you ever do
that thing where you like go back and you look
at pictures and you're like, Jesus Christ, how was anyone?
How did anyone even talk to me? Like there was
there's there's there's a couple of photos of me and
Caitlyn like when I was at like my peak physical fitness,
like as in I was heavy as as balls. Uh

(01:06:39):
that I'm like, oh, my God, I am. I I
look like I'm gonna die in a week. Like it's
like like it's like I look swollen. I look like
like a like a giant marshmallow.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
That's the worst. That's the worst feeling, too, is when
you're like in it. Yeah, like when you hit a
speed bump and you just feel everything in your body.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Yeah. Well, and I've I've literally never said this before
because it was like embarrassed me. But I got fitted
for my tucks for my wedding, right and that was
like six eight months before the wedding. Then I go
in to pick it up and the bottom button didn't
But and I literally never told anybody that, I've never

(01:07:19):
told you open jacket. I went open jacket for the
most part. Or I would just button that I would.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Did they did they let out anything in the back
to like beforehand?

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
No? I think I think I picked it up too
late for them to do it. Oh okay, I want
to say that was that was the scenario. Uh. But yeah,
it's like I look at some of these photos, I'm like,
oh my god, Like how did Caitlin even like like
touch my shoulder? You know, like, how is there how

(01:07:51):
was there any interest like at all there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
That's like I I see my drinking days pictures because
I was in bands. Yeah, there's like all kinds the
documented stuff. I have a mug shot and like I am,
I'm like, I don't. I wouldn't say I was in
good shape, but I was puffy generally puffy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Does that make sense? No? No, it makes I mean
it makes sense to me. Swollen. Yeah, it was engorged. Well,
I think because you see it. You see it like
in your face and I've seen you engorged. Yeah, it's
like like for me especially like it was like like
my face and like my my chin. It's where it is, like, yeah,
it is where it is, where it's settled, like outside

(01:08:34):
of you know, my enormous stomach.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
That's why if you see me with a beard, chances
are I feel fat. Yeah, That's why I don't shave
for a while. And then when I shave, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Like, oh, should I have a jawline? Cool? Neat? Hold on,
let me check my list here, gen Z, did you
turn that happy light off? Peter Pinton? Yeah, dude, I
don't like that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Not for me, it's not I mean, you're like all
cancel my Amazon over who wants a bright ass light just.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Pointed at them all the time. Did you see how
people are mad? Again?

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Gen zers are mad because uh, some people get certain
holidays off and other people don't get holidays off, like
they have to work holidays.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
No, I didn't see, like I will be the first
person in line to be like you need you need
you get like you throw up, Yeah, like work on holidays. Sorry,
they're there are just some there are some jobs that
you just that's that is the requirement. How about people
who are like, I'm not gonna work on my birthday. Oh,
I do not like that at all, like and and

(01:09:40):
may and I don't know, maybe just me, like my
birthday has never been like an event when I was
a kid, Like it was never like an event, like
maybe I'd have a couple of friends spend the night,
or like one time we went to Chuck E Cheese
for my birthday. Otherwise, like it was just like you
get you get your gifts and that's that. That's the

(01:10:01):
end of it. I don't I don't understand the mentality
of like, like, yeah, sometimes it sucks. There are days
that it sucks that you have to work, right, absolutely,
but you gotta work, but you have to, Like like
when I was working at the resort, like I almost
could like just bet on it that I was going

(01:10:23):
to be working on Thanksgiving and on Christmas, and like
you just make the best of it, like you can't.
You can't like live in like this this bubble where
it's just like, yeah, sometimes people do get days off
that you're not going to get right, somebody's got to
do work, yeah, like here here, yeah, like these holidays,
like for the most part, for the last seven years,

(01:10:45):
I've missed at least one holiday during the year because
I've had to work the next day. It's you know,
really nice, like oh my god, like the excuse of
being like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I gotta work at three am. Sorry, We'll be able
to stick around.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
And also on those holidays, it's like pretty nice here too,
because you don't have to deal with anyone else. And
I don't even mean like on the John Jaye Ridge Show,
I mean like in the building, like I like I
the the the relaxation of just being able to come in,
you start the show and then as at like at

(01:11:21):
some point you check make sure it's still on, like
you can do you can do your thing, like it's
it is nicer than this mic. It's gonna odor to it. Well,
we won't. We won't say who's Mike I'm sitting Okay,
then I won't. I won't say it. But yeah, it's
got a bit of a zing to it. I mean,

(01:11:48):
I can guess what that zing is. Although they do
get cleaned daily twice, do they? In the mornings Free Show,
there's a guy down the hallway who's got a microphone
that you don't even want to look at. Dude. Oh yeah,
it smells so bad. I had to record a podcast
in his room one time. I wonder if it's a
guy I'm thinking of this guy? Oh no, I was

(01:12:14):
not thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Have a conversation with him, staying a couple of feet
away from him. Hm, and you'll be like, huh.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
I did the only conversation I've ever had with that
guy who just been like, hey, how are you? How
is your weekend? Get right up next time and be like, hey, man,
what's up? I'm probably good? Pat him down, dude. She
would be like carrying dude. That's how I's how, That's
how I agreeed everybody in the buildings. I give him.
Did you did you hear the Coolio.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Yeah, he died, but he may have had some information
that he was he was actually killed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Have you heard this? No, I don't know if I
want to get into it here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Yeah, I don't think I want to get into it here,
but I just want people to know you YouTube it, Yeah,
look on YouTube the real reason cool I'm just no,
I think he uh he he said, he said openly.
He's like, I'm not afraid to die. But he's like,
I don't want to say some stuff that I've seen
in the industry because I'm worried, worried for my grandkids.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
I'm worried for my children. I wouldn't I wouldn't debate that.
I mean I think that especially the rap game. Oh yeah,
twenty years ago. Oh yeah, when when Coolio had hit,
like compared to now, do you know about about rappers
and bathtubs? No, just google it. It's a sign. It's

(01:13:37):
like a sign. Yeah, did that bum you out? In Coolio? Dad?
It's a little sad. You got a photo with him.
Now I got a video with him. I sang one
of the songs at him. Oh that's right. Yeah, I
guess you came back into a room. You're like dude,
I guess I just did. I just like I got him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
I got him just I was like, dude, Nightfall is
like one of my favorite songs of all time, and
he like rapped the first verse and I sang the chorus,
and then he sang the chords with me. I was like,
this is the greatest coolio, nicest guy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Would you say? He was kolio? He was fine, he
was fine. Oh do we need how much?

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
How much longer do we need to do? I want
to meet the time quota for afterwards.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
You want to meet the time quota for afterwards. So
we should have been done an hour ago? Is it
an hour and eight minutes? About? No? I mean, I mean,
I'm I'm I'm interested in your list. We are at
one fifteen since I hit that. Yeah, dude, I don't know, man,
my list might be a little too hard. I don't

(01:14:36):
want to I'm already I already feel like I said
too much. You're worried, Yeah, a little bit worried. To
be honest with you, I feel like a little bit worse.
I feel like that means it was a good episode,
though it felt fine to me. I mean, it wasn't great.
There's there's but I think here's the problem is that

(01:15:00):
like we're exhausted. Yeah, man, you know, like I was
telling you, like before I came in today, Like there's
certain days where it's just like I have like typically
and my wife does a fantastic job with the kids,
like every day getting ready for school and whatever, but
there are times she travels for work and then I
like it just like sometimes I have to be there.

(01:15:24):
And this morning, dude, at freaking I went to bed
last night and like had a plan for how my
day was going to go today, and about eleven thirty,
my dog barks, like God, what are you doing. I'm
I'm I'm fast asleep. And then like I'm I'm I

(01:15:45):
grabbed the dog. She's calmer down, but she's still growling,
and I'm like, what is going on? And I'm I'm
partially afraid of the dark, like like legitimately, like I
have like a like a weird phobia. Uh. But then
I just hear you start swinging that baseball. Yeah, just

(01:16:07):
like like immediately I grabbed the knife. Uh. And there's
my two year old. We moved her into a big
girl bed and and she, you know, she's like a
little veloss wraptor she can open doors. And she had
made her way in and she was like, Dad, I
scared a big girl bed and I'm like farts, And

(01:16:30):
so there's tons of yeah there, you have no idea, yeah,
And I proposed a couple of different options to her.
She's not into it. And by the time I got
to like, hey, we'll get back in your bed. I will,
I'll sleep on the floor next to you, she was
already like in our bed, like covers pulled over pet

(01:16:51):
and the dog. And so she she stayed. She stayed
with me last night, but then like I got up
at three to kind of set up the show, and
then it was just like all morning my son was
losing his past fire in the crib. She woke up
and just started wailing because she was by herself then

(01:17:13):
in the bed, you know. So it's like she goes
from being in like a regular big girl bed to
like an extra large girl bed by her bed, the
biggest girl bed. Yeah, and so it's like it's just
like a battle all morning, And like that was not
the way I wanted to like cap my week, you
know what I mean, Like after after being such a

(01:17:35):
long week anyway, but don't worry, it'll be slow this week.
I was gonna say, last last night, at like ten o'clock,
my black bowling ball cat attacked my other cat and
I was like, and thank god Gayleen wasn't in the
room with me. It was wild. Are they so they do? They?
They typically avoid each other.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Yeah, if they stay away from each other, I think
they're good. But they're still like awesome, it's just mess, dude.
She's I don't know, it's gonna be like that for
a while. Like they're getting better. They can like hang
out around, but like awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Ran back to the to a room and she went
under the desk and Scott was already under the desk.
Oh my god. I just didn't didn't didn't work well.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
But I mean I go into full like scary dad mode. Yeah,
I go into full Jeffrey Dahmer mode. I'm like, hey,
you two get a done, get over there, let me
take a picture. Yeah, man, I don't know I'm gonna
get rid of them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Will they be brother's sister? We have that discussion a lot.
Or will they I say, the day your wedding day?
Will they also marry each other? I say, yeah, it's
funny because their boyfriend and girlfriend. But also they're like
half brother and sister. But also I think awesome is
I mean ten? Yeah, and Scott's like three or four.
Oh so he's Yeah, he's young and spry. Yeah, there's

(01:18:58):
like some cougar after that. Yeah, she's she's grooming him. Jesus,
she's like, uh literally liking up. I'm grooming this one.
My kids will not marry each other. I mean it
seems right. Do your kids know about adrenochromes? All right,

(01:19:19):
well it's been fun. Yeah, Well things will be back
to normal, uh next week. And if you sat through
all of this, I mean I applaud you. Hey, dude,
I mean, if you're listening on the Terrible Person feed,
thank you so much. Put a lot of effort in
this one. Go over the go over to the premium
podcast www Dot Terribleperson dot co o, and hear me

(01:19:43):
get riled up this morning. Not a good episode, but
I'm fired up. I can honestly say, probably one of
the worst premium episodes I've ever done. Well, they can't
be exactly, dude. I gotta go listen to Edging while
I'm edging, right, Yeah, and I'm gonna watch you do it.
I don't know what that means. Okay, learn behavior