Hyperblasts: 2000 Trees 2025 Review (& The Paul Ledney Glitterbomb)

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello, everybody, I am the man who bought Paul Ledney's Come. No,
I'm not. My name is Perry and hayesh this is
that's not metal. Welcome back, everybody across from me not
prepared for that remark. Is Sam Dignon, returning after last week.
Hello Sam, how are you?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I'm back from the surface of the sun again.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, I mean you missed the whole last week's shenanigans.
So last week on Hyperblasts, I put out the chat
that we had earlier in the week about the Slayer
shows that you and Eliott were at and the Sabbath
show and stuff like that, and I record the little
intro for that on Wednesday, and I was like, you know,
hopefully tomorrow won't be too big. Anything that happens, we'll
get to it the following week. And two things, actually

(01:09):
massive things happened on Thursday. One of them I did
know was coming in fairness, but those things are new
Deftones music and also what might be the best story
of the entire year.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Genuine being at a festival.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
So I was only catching bits this when I could
get into the press area where there was Wi Fi
and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I was like, wait, what, wait, what's this about? Come so?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
And then, of course we have a week's worth of news.
On top of that, we actually have some other really
exciting new music and exciting announcements and stuff to go
on as well. So we are gonna cover all of
that for you. We're gonna give you the week's releases,
and then for the bulk of this episode, where Sam
was that weekend was of course at two thousand Trees Festival,
So we're going to talk about all the cool things
that you saw there, and you know, have a recap

(01:54):
of a what a jolly old warm, as you say,
weekend that looked to be. But that's what we we've
got today. Let's get into it. Let's start, of course
with as said, new Deathtones music.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
We knew from.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
The fact that we were at the big Crystal Palace
show the other week that Deathtones were teasing new music.
We figured that there would be a song around about
now in the sort of middle of July, and lo
and behold, there we go. We have it. There is
a new album called, as we suspected from those teasers,
Private Music, and it's going to be coming out. It's
quite soon, actually, isn't it. It's August the twenty second,

(02:28):
so we have just over a month actually from now
and a few days before we actually have the full
death Tones record to here, which is quite exciting. I'm
glad we've not got a really long roll out for that,
and there's a new track from it out called My
Mind is a Mountain. A bit of discussion around some
of the peripheral stuff about it. The artwork is a
big snake, big white snake on a big green background.

(02:52):
Maybe not to be confused with white Snake unless David
Coverdell is involve, which I would like to hear on
a Deathtones record. A bit of a strange artwork. I'm
not sure it's great. But we also have a track
list of them doing the all lower caps. I don't
know how would you phrase that sort of writing that's
sort of like.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
All lower case.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, but it has a very specific kind of demeanor
to me, of almost like tweeted out at midnight, you know,
kind of approach.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Rather than five vibes exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, which some could say that Deathtones are too old
to be doing that, but at the very least it's
not the bringing the Horizon alternating case shit show.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
That gives me a headache.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
So yeah, I'm fine with I'm fine with death doing
lower case. There are bands who can pull it off.
They've always kind of had that kind of like very relaxed,
chilled out like yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Which you know they are. It's very relatable to the
current generation, isn't it, Which is all things we've said before.
We went at some length on the Crystal Palace Deftone
show episode that we did about how they have, even
just in the last few years between now and when
the last record omes came out, kind of being able
to really tap into, you know, a younger audience who

(03:58):
will be maybe I mean for a lot of people
imagine this might be actually their first Deathtones.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Record, their first Deaftones record.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, Yeah, that they'll receive on release, which is kind
of crazy to think that omes Ond's five years ago
and they have categorically gotten bigger post COVID.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
It was, like I say, it's in that weird post
homes where, like I said, they have blown up and
this is in a way it kind of does make
it a bit of a monumental Deathtones record.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, So we will have you know, more conversations about
that and the potential size of this record. But the
new song my Mine is a Mountain is the first
track on the record. What do you think of the
new Deathtone song?

Speaker 3 (04:35):
So I was able to listen to this like a
couple of days ago because I'm just getting home from
trees and just sort of really really really like put.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Myself back into the real world. I mean it's good.
I'm not like, I don't.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Think it's the best Deftones song ever, but you know,
it's a cool Deathtones track. They're like it's almost like
a bit more upbeat at times for Deaftones in.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
A way that like kind of combined that with the
sort of the sound they do. But yeah, I like it.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
I'm not blown away by I'm thinking, like, oh my god,
this is the best Deftone song in ages. This is
like some Graminton's format, and they've you know, always been
consistently very good and this is more of that.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Excited to the rest of the album.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, it's changed my very fur thought when the song
came in and it has this like slightly stabbier riff
at the very very beginning.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, that's what that's when we're like, this will be
about a bit. It's a bit more.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, and hearing those like rapid snare hits in an
almost more metal or hardcore ish manner is actually kind
of unusual for them, and so bizarrely my very firth thought,
maybe it's because the sound of Deaftnes is so ubiquitous
now and like genuine you know, transparency. Here, most records
that come out in the kind of alternative rock lane
that just sound like Deaftnes, we don't bother reviewing them

(05:42):
anymore because even though they're they might be trendy or
popular outside of like you know, the real ones to
watch in that scene that people care about, like a
loath or whatever, they're not interesting to talk about.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
And hearing like my for the first like three seconds
of the song after five years of not having you Deaftones,
my brain went into that and I was like, oh,
this is just the new whatever that band could be song,
which is kind of unusual. But then it's settled into
the smoothness of the verse riff. Yeah, and that's when
I went, oh, right, okay, no, this is this is
the real one, Like this has actually got some of

(06:13):
the magic, you know, and yeah, it's interesting in that
regard because it has some of the slightly harsh elements,
like not to the extent that maybe Gore did where Gore.
Even if people talk about it as a very dreamy record,
it's also like very abrasively produced, which I think is
part of why not everyone gets on with that record.
Yeah yeah, but like you know, the snare hits and
stuff on this have like a tinge of that kind

(06:34):
of harshness to it, but also the again I sort
the sort of smoothness and the fullness of that big
verse riff. I thought, OHMS was a you know, a
strong record overall, and I think the title track, which
we got first from it, is a really great single.
This as a debut single from the record, I don't
think is that good and it hasn't stuck in my
head immediately. The other thing is it's really short, because

(06:56):
there's I was listening to it today just to refresh
myself on it, and there's a guitar lead that comes
in about two minutes forty or something and I was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, it's under three minutes long.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, And it's a caitari that comes right at the end,
and I was like, oh, you know, nice, we're building
and the song's over and I was like, oh shit,
But I think as an opening track on the record, if.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I think it's the opener, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, album, it does feel quite slight for a deaftone single,
but if that then pays off with a you know,
a mighty track two or something on those lines, I
think it has the potential to work really well as
the album opener.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean, again, we haven't got too long to wait,
so I wouldn't they you know, just kind of going
here's the opener.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
We're not going to do a whole run of like
all these singles.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
You're getting the opener and then you're gonna hear the
album in a month's time, which I'm like, if that's
how they're kind of running out, I mean, that's quite
a cool decision.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I do like this.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I'm again, I don't know if I can just can't
not like Deafthtones. I assure you mean about like there
is a kind of like grace and class to Deaftones
doing this thing that all of the sort of the
bands who sound like Deaftones can't match.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
So when Deathones hit that, there's you kind of like
that's the real deal. Thing. But yeah, I'm down with this.
I'm excited for the album.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, it's good. The other thing that happened last Thursday
that I did not see come in that I have
been waiting all week to talk about is I love
that not only are we talking about as a band,
but they are. I mean, I know that I've put
them this high, but it's this high on the news agenda.
It has legitimately be the story that people have been
a gast at enthusing about every which way a band

(08:21):
called Profanatica, who I'm going to guess a lot of
people listening have either not heard of or if you've
heard the name, maybe you haven't listened to them. If
you're a regular listen to us, you may have heard
the name because I am a fan and I very
occasionally name drop them. I think I remember saying when
we were discussing about the Behemoth Shit of God album title,
I was like, I'm a Profanatica fan. I'll take some nonsense, right,

(08:42):
And I feel like this is a great insight into
the mind of that you know, particular headspace. A photo
was taken by this is one of those things, a
bit like you know, the pentagram thing where someone took
a video of Bobby Leebling just do what he normally does,
put it online, and then it blew up from there.

(09:03):
The person who took this photo was clearly in attendance
at a Profanatica show, so to some extent would be
versed in and down with the world of Profanatica. But
they took a photo of the Profanatica merch desk which
featured a little little jar containing something and it was
labeled Paul's actual come and a little price tag that

(09:24):
said fifty dollars, which clearly had a sticker over it,
and its simply revealed that it was previously labeled as
one hundred dollars and I guess marked down. But this
photo of some Profanatica fan taking a photo of them
at their merch desk selling again, I guess after save
the context, Paul Ledny the drummer and vocalist the long
time you know, founding member of Profanatica, mister Profanatica, if

(09:48):
you will, selling his seamen apparently, and your news sites
like you know, your metal injections or your lamb doopes
or whatever. They all thought, there's there's some bang to
the you know, some fun content. Yeah, we can get
some bucks from this story. Let's post this up and
the consequences the world learned about who Profanetica are because

(10:10):
when I saw this story, first of all, right, I laughed,
but I wasn't actually surprised because I know who Profanatica are.
And I'm not trying to be like, so I'm better
than you. I have knowledge. I knew who they were
before you, and this story broke type thing. I'm just
saying that if you do have knowledge who Profanetica are,

(10:30):
this is not actually very surprising in of itself. It's amusing,
you go, oh, those guys, but it's not shocking. The
thing that made the story incredible to me was the
fact that it's the thing that they've done that then
proliferated on the Internet and the you know, I saw
this story, but it was about twenty four hours afterwards
or whatever when it was being spread around on Twitter

(10:52):
by like sleep token fan accounts and like, you know,
the people who run I don't know that State of
the Scene podcast and those type areas of the metal
Internet spreading around Profanaca being like what the fuck is this?
Where I go the Internet is mostly awful, but it
also can into age twenty five produced so are the
most wonderfully surreal moments we collectively could experience.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Like I said, I was again not catch the swim
real time.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I was having to sort of catch up on this,
And I was like, because when I found out, but
it was through seeing the outraged, like truly like, won't
someone please think of the children?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Kind of love? Joy about the Profanatica come, I was like, the.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Name, isn't it profanatic Like, again, I don't know much
about Profanatica. When I saw this, I was like, well, yeah,
they seem like the kind of band of it produce
something like that, you know, provoke and their fans are
probably freaks in the nicest possible way.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Where again, someone will buy that.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
I don't know if they'll buy out one hundred dollars
like it was with the advertised or when it's you know,
for the very reasonable price of fifty dollars.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, a little vile of seamen.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
There was a screenshot of an instant Graham comment of
I believe I'm writing saying the girl who was manning
and selling the merch right, and she said it was
her idea, and Paul was like, yeah, that's a great
idea of fuck it.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I believe that. I bet you someone says a joke,
do it.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
He was like, yeah, cool, Yeah, our merch girls a
couple with a sick idea. Let's do it. Because I
went again when I say, you know, sleep Token fan account,
state at Scene, Pockets or whatever, I'm not trying to
be sneery whatever about that. I'm just saying that they
are such different worlds, aren't they, you know, And the
world of discourse that exists amongst that corner of the
Internet is very different to the world that would exist

(12:33):
in Profanatica's corner of the Internet, and they should not mix.
You may notice that while I am a Profanatica fan,
while I will name drop them from time to time,
I have never pushed substantially or that maybe we should now.
But I've never pushed substantially for something like an album
club or to cover their releases to exempt because profanat
one of those bands who you kind of shouldn't know

(12:54):
about unless you're really really in deep with black metal.
And I'm not saying that to gatekeep. I'm just saying
that they're they are a band who are not meant
to be.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Not for everyone.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, they are not for they like like I mean,
there's one of these success' that is like some things
aren't for everyone, and it's not gatekeeping to say, like
this isn't meant to be for everyone.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, you know, that's just how it is.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Like if you want in and you want to get
into black metal and then work your way down to
a profanatica, absolutely by your means, we're having a really
fun time down here. But they should not be someone's
like gateway step into black metal because they are very
far gone and they are profanatica. I would describe them
as almost being like black metals answers are gg Allen
like they it's that sort of mentality and that sort

(13:37):
of I believe they used to be in like you know,
there's actual crossover and communications and stuff between like them
in their early days and gg Allen, and they are
like one of the very first American black metal bands
and they have carried themselves for like thirty years or
whatever with that totally uncompromising fuck you, we are going
to be as just like gross out blaspems cross boundaries.

(13:59):
We're gonna yeah and if you're down for that. They
are a special kind of band. I once had a
conversation with a member of the death metal band Crucimentum
because I was wearing my profanatica shirt and he said
that guy is my hero and then cited the video.
I think it was a video of him like drinking
his own piss or something like that, like that's that's
the world, you know. And again, I love the commentary

(14:21):
that I've seen on some of this of people saying
things like, yeah, he has a history of doing this stuff,
like it's like assault or something, or like, you know,
like a racial faux pa. However, I was like, no,
like he's he's a dude who is famous for having
particularly blasphemous wanks onto certain objects, and like they are
famous for their early days full frontal in the woods,
black metal probo images, like they are the most ridiculous

(14:43):
band in the world. And my view on this, my
favorite thing was, again the tweet that you are citing
that really kicked off, was someone labeling this a bio hazard,
Like we've collectively forgotten what to do with cum, you know,
like how to deal with like it's not going to
escape and crawl towards you like slither, you know, like

(15:04):
it's just it's a human substance that fifty percent of
the population produce in a bottle. How that's it, right,
I mean, like on a technical level.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yes, are by hazards, but like, come on, this is
just like, yeah, this is you know, this is the
Batmel version of like your game of Girl bath water
at this point.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Isn't it like precisely you know? And my position on
this because you can particularly imagine some people were actually
outraged by this and thought it would be it's it's unacceptable,
you know. And my position is would I sell my
own cum? No, unless someone really really rich wanted it.
But let's say no, would I buy someone else's come

(15:49):
particularly of like fifty five year old man or whatever. No,
I wouldn't. Is it gross? Yeah, we're all agreed there
it is. But profn App, I think are a band
who exist to do these things so the rest of
us don't have to. You know, It's like they are
ordained to do these things so the rest of us

(16:11):
can look on in wonder at the things they do
without actually having to do it or get too heavily
involved ourselves. They are champions of profanity ordained to bear
the load, or one because they spread the load, or whatever.
And I just think, for in the extremely saditized, you know,
twenty twenty five digital driven whatever music landscape, I think

(16:33):
for this thing that we call rock and roll to
continue to exist and have some kind of life to it,
someone out there should be trying to sell their come
at much. If that's to be Profanatica, then God bless them,
all power to them. I'm not gonna buy it, but
I just feel like the world is a little bit
more interesting and metal has a little bit more spunk

(16:57):
in it if someone like Profanatica is selling their cup
at much? Am I a mad man for believing that?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
No, I am legitimately with you.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
It is.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
It is gross. It is like all those things. But
like we need alone, we need.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Someone to be a complete lunatic the world, Like we yeah,
we need these lunatics. And again, as long as they
are not you know, doing actual harm to people, and
like you know, like if you know they're sending out
Profanata records and suddenly.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Like from like.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Record like a glitter bomb, do you know that just.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
About us going off the rails on this podcast like.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
They invited this one, but I mean the way, I
don't know if this must have been organized before or
if it was very last minute or whatever. But like
he went on the Chris Gaza podcast this week, and
I'm like, there's two dudes again, two corners I would
never have imagined crossing over. But the expo that not
that it's going to make them a big band, because Profanatica,

(18:03):
by the nature of their music remain they cannot be
a big band. Like listen to one of their records,
it's the most obnoxious shit.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
But the corner of.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Exposure at these people who know who they are is
like generally beyond anything I would have imagined.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
As It's a fascinating week for them, isn't it of
Like Yeah, people like a bunch of people who like
never had a Profanatica right now kind of like at
least aware of this mental band's existence.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, And if you want a Profanatica recommendation, their best
album is the twenty ten album called Disgusting Blasphemes against God,
and it literally opens with a song called black com
which thankfully the bottle in question this week was was not,
and then it ends on a song that I love
very much, which is called Angel with Cock, not a
or the just Angel with Cock. And again that tells

(18:52):
you what you need to know about Proponeatica. But my god,
the wider metal Internet learning that Profanatica exists is probably
my favorite thing to happen since the day I was born.
So that was the big story of last Thursday. Stuff
that's happened in the last seven days or so. We
are going to go to just a couple of hours
ago actually when we are recording this, which is we

(19:13):
have another big new trap to talk about, which is
a new nine inch Nails single. It is the first
labeled as nine inch Nails mus because obviously Trent resdrah
Atcus Ross produce music all the time, but this is
the first nine inch Nails music since twenty twenty when
they put out those two Ghosts albums. It's the first
I think I'm right in saying the first like, you know,
sort of full band you could say ninetch Nails music

(19:35):
since Bad Witch in twenty seventeen and or eighteen even
And my god, I have been waiting for nine inch
Nail's music for a very long time. It's quite bizarre
that it's coming in the form of a Tron soundtrack,
because we knew this was happening. I was in the cinema,
you know, a couple of weeks ago, and I saw
my first trailer for the Tron movie with the big

(19:56):
nine inch Nails logo coming up on screen saying the
soundtrack by and I was like, Oh, that's cool, you know,
seeing just nine inch Nails, hearing it in a cinema
and so on. But I guess I didn't imagine that
it would be like full songs to the quite this degree.
I thought it would mainly be sort of like you know,
Pumpy Score, synthiy music, whatever, which you know, a lot
of the album could well be I don't know. But
we actually have a single and it is. It's I

(20:18):
think it's obviously it's a very Tron song. It's probably
not what nine its Nails music would sound like if
it was not attached to the Tron movie. But it
is actually a full blown nine inch Nails rock to
some degree. You know, Trent Reznor singing a chorus and
everything on it song and the first one of those
that we've had, I think and saying it's bad, which
and after that, Weight it's kind of crazy that it's

(20:39):
just like part of the Tron soundtrack, but we have
a new nine inch Nails song finally.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, I mean, like because let's we go. When I'm
sol was like, so, was this a Resonant Ross soundtrack?

Speaker 1 (20:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
No, this is like a nine inch Nails sound Yeah.
Is that that there?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
There is the distinction there? And then yeah, I mean
it's not actually that out of obviously.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
The last Tron movie, which god however long ago that
was now had the daft punk daft punk like yeah,
so that they like it's.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Clearly like again, they've decided whenever when a Torn movie
comes along every fifteen years now or however long, that
they're gonna, you know, get some kind of like yapoke
actual like artists whose sound can fit into what like
tronsol vibe is and get them to do a like
bespoke soundtrack for it.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Get I'm kind of taking a similar way to that,
which I.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Think is cool that they've gotten age news for the
time because I think, you know, twenty tens whatever, daft
Punk were like at one of their critical peaks, you know,
and they were everywhere, and that I think people mainly
remember that movie for the Daft Punk soundtrack. It kind
of legitimizes the movie in a way. I think it's
cool that, you know, fifteen years later, they've gone what
would be an equally cool, you know, a band of
stature to do a kind of electronicy soundtrack for, and

(21:45):
they've gone for nine inch nails.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I think that says something about where the band, and
obviously Trent Residor and a Chas Ross, where their Hollywood
score were. Yeah, kind of the esteem they sit in
in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, I thinek like I said, the scores of definitely
like been a factor in that.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
But it is cool to sort of be like night
Sons been put like, yeah, no, this is the This's
almost like going to be the for a lot of people,
the selling point of the New Tron movie.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
But at the same time, listening to the song, it
is a perfect fit, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Like that's simple When that simper kicks in the start
and it is pulsating the beats of fumping, I'm.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Like, yeah, no, I mean I'm in Tron. I'm in
the video game land, like you know, I'm doing my
like like light bike racing and all.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
That to this. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a again
we've only had it for a very fresh period of time,
but it's a banger of a tune and it's great
to get Nannie Nails doing that after you know, quite
a long time of not really producing what you could
call bangers bangers. But it's also so unbelievably tron flavored,
like I said, in a way that their own music
just by themselves probably wouldn't be, because it's like full

(22:49):
neon big, like fat ass shaker kind of bass going on.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Playing this on the cube in the middle of the
stage on the this is where it fell playing this, Yeah,
this is where this song would out.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, And I guess again you could probably put it
closer to that kind of side of nine Nails and
material that they were doing on something like that set.
But even like that, there's actually these sort of daft
punk esque vocoder effects and stuff in it which very
much feel like them, you know, playing with and buying
into the world that they are creating. So I think
it's it's very much case that this is a Nine

(23:21):
Inch Nails doing, you know, doing tron music rather than
pure Nine inch Nails, But the amount of like nine
inch Nails just like umph in it and energy in
everything is also like unmistakable. So it's a really cool mix. Again,
it's strange that we're getting this after so many years
of not getting new nine inch Nails to just hear
what kind of quote normal manage nails would sound like

(23:44):
right now. But this is a really cool song. And
I was, you know, obviously, of course I was already
curious about nine itch Nails doing a soundtrack for a
Tron movie. They would be I probably go see the
movie anyway, but they would be my reason to go
and see it, like opening weekend, you know. But now
if we have more like an actual tunes on the soundtrack,
that has me all the more curious about even just

(24:05):
listening to this as an album, you know, with maybe
devoid from the film.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, absolutely, I think that's it.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
It's like, you know, some of those soundchecoumps come out
like you'll be like, this is a cool sort of
like background listen or kind of like a vibe sort
of piece.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well, I'm like, is this just going to be like
this now?

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I was just doing like big beat bangers like that
are like kind of like full of that neon sort
of like Tron.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Sort of vibe. And if that's the case that I
am like genuinely excited for this as an album.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yes, big tour announcement for next year. Lorna Sure are
going to be through January and then they're arriving here
in the UK in February doing a mahusive tour where
they are bringing along White Chapel, Shallow Intent and Humanity's
Last Breath. So that's a very like kind of old
nue of what death Core is, which is I guess
is what you'd imagine for Lorna Shore Support built. It's

(24:49):
pretty damn good. It's exciting to see White Chapel.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
White chap On there like in the US tour as well,
haven't they like they're those bands quite linked at the moment.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, the sort of the special guest legend slot if
you will for LRNA short tour. But it's the size
of the venues that really draws the eye. Here in
London they are doing Alexandra Palace and also doing the
Birmingham O two Academy and Manchester's Victoria Warehouse. So this
begs the question, I guess the answer must be yes.
Is this the first ever Death Corp arena show certainly

(25:18):
in this country.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, no, I was.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
I was like, you know, this is you could say,
like Bringasers have played some of their old death core
stuff in an arena, but you know that's been like
Dea that's been at a little snippet of some Death
Corps as part of like well they do this is
the This is like the most kind of like, yeah,
Death Corps in an arena, the full package. Like, I
was just kind of like, I've seen variations of this

(25:40):
lineup through Isnington Academy an Electric ball Room over the years,
and I had fun with us all sharing the various
Never Say Dire tour lineups we went to and just
kind of looking like I was like, look at this,
you know, like not even ten years ago, Lawna Show
were the first band on on one of these tours,
and now look at them like headlining and arena bringing.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
White Chapel along. It is a razy trajectory that band
have had. It.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
It's a never Say Eye lineup, but one of those
balands has become like generationally massive and is now bringing
that bill into arena. It's baffling, but like again momentous
and you know, fucking fair play to him. That's really cool.
Sound and Fury happened over in the US, and you
know a lot of cool stuff happened at Sound and
Fury as it you imagine it would. But we're gonna

(26:24):
zero in on the band God's Hate, as we have
done quite a bit recently. They've been doing a lot.
But one thing that happened during God Hates set is
with the band, you know, still playing, an imprompertu carry
On reunion happened like in the middle of their set,
I guess where members of the seminole early two thousands
straight edge harcore band carry On appeared on stage and

(26:45):
just played one of their songs with God's Take sort
of as backing. And if you don't know carry On,
you may know them through our coverage if you've heard
our Nail special that we did early last year. I
think it was because Todd Jones was the guitarist in
that band before then beating in several other hardcore bands
and eventually forming Nails and carry On. I mean, for

(27:06):
that reason, certainly it does some heavy lifting for me.
But they and that record, you know, a lifeless play,
Lifeless Plague. Yeah, one of my favorite kind of you know,
early two thousand sort of straight edge type hardcore records.
Like it's an absolute ripper. It's really short. It's like
a whole bunch of songs in like fifteen twenty minutes
or something like that, and it's a seminal record for
that era. And seeing just them appearing as you know,

(27:26):
God's Hate are playing and there's Todd Jones and there's
the singer from carry On and they do the song
off My Chest, which is a banger. It's really fucking cool.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, it was like it's similar because like loads of
covers and loads of cool guest spots and all this
stuff happening. Of course some and fury, and then this
was in the middle of It's kind of like no
one saw this coming. And I can imagine if anyone
was there, like if suddenly carry On appear on stage
during God's Hate, there are gonna be people there who
are like their.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Minds are sort of frying at this moment.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yea, like I never they probably never thought they'd see
this shit, and like that's really fucking cool. And again,
all that is good to say. You've got to kind
of be the kind of like lynchpin that held it
all together.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I mean, one thing that I like about this actually
is if you watch the video, so Taylor Young is
on stage playing and then Todd Jones appears and like
he gives them a hug and stuff, and then I
realized I was like, oh, this is like also, you
know at least two thirds of the classic Nails lineup, and.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
It's just nice to know, like, yeah, there is no
bad blood there. They are like still in this together.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, this is a really cool video. If you've never
heard carry On, then go list to that record. But
you know, it's a fun little thing that's happened here.
The after kind of a story of this is God's
Hate have announced that that Sound and Fury show is
to be their final show, at least for the foreseeable.
They've used the word hiatus, which I feel like everybody
has jumped on and been very very sad about. The
way this reads to me is more like a hibernation, right,

(28:44):
because I think they're a band who you know, they
have other projects. One of them is literally a famous wrestler, Like,
they have stuff that they do. I feel like God's
Hate are a band who we can expect to go
away for like five years and then come back and
be active for a couple of years. And that's just
sort of the the routine of how they'll do it,
because there's quite long time between you know, the latest
an they put out on the one before that. So

(29:05):
it is sad that they're not currently active. I'm quite
jealous that you've got to see them at one of
their final shows. And I have not seen God's tape,
but I wouldn't get too bummed out about it, at
least in terms of the long.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
I think they have said they're working on an album.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
There is an album in the pipeline, so I don't
know if this is now just taking time off touring
and playing shows to kind of be like, right, let's
get the album done. Like Brody literally wrestled in Texas
the night before he then jumped on a plane to
get to it La.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Some Fury is coming for wherever.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Sudden Fury is like yeah, So like they're busy dudes,
and I imagine they're kind of I think even was
more like a break from live shows to just sort
of settle down, recorded the album, take a bit of
time off to recover, and then get back at it.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
In I would guess in like a year or two times.
I don't. I don't. I kind of imagine being a
particular long break, but yeah, who knows.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah. Marnazettes on social media this week posted a screen
shots of a folder on one of their computer mobobs
called Marmozet's album three Masters. So that is of course
an official announment basically that the Marmozett's album is finally done.
They've been teasing it and saying they've been doing it
for so many years that we sort of stopped tracking it.

(30:17):
But I feel like this is the moment to go, like, oh,
it's finished.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
We can probably expect it out, if not by the
end of this year early next year, you know. And
so this is a conversation that we can have, you know,
maybe in more detail when it comes to reviewing an
album or something. But it's been currently seven years since
Marmozette's last album. If it comes out early next year,
it'll be eight years, you know. And the question is

(30:41):
what place do Marmazettes have in the current you know,
musical landscape, because obviously, you know, a lot of people
listening and we we're fans and we're interested in this,
but man, that's a long time.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
It felt like a long time between you know, the
weird and wonderful.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Now now that was like three years double a.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Long time, and this now double that and again like
we know, like there's the whole coding that like making
everything longer.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
But this is like eight years is like like pushing
eight years. This is is crazy, I think.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I mean, they will come back and there will be
a cult section of like brit rock fans who will
kind of flock to it immediately and welcome them back,
whether they become you know, I wonder if this is
Marketers pretending as like like a beloved cult band going
forward and not kind of like one of the sort
of bands we're pushing to like sort of be like
a leading band in sort of British.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
That's what I'm kind of wonder where they're gonna land.
I'm excited for it.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I hope you know, they come back and it's brilliant
and everyone kind of goes, oh my god, woo marmots
and they and they just you know, immediately ride back
up there sort of like Jetory. But it is a
very interesting because tastes have changed so much in that time.
What's popular, what's trendy, what's current. All that is is
so different. It's such a different landscape, so how markets

(31:57):
will land in that is really interesting.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, I think they have no gauge at all of
what venues Marmozetes would play when they come back. You know,
it's like in a post COVID post, you know, spirit
Box or whatever number of bands you want to say
have come through and gotten really popular and kind of
change the paradigms of what is currently popular in rock music.
Where do Marmozettes after eight years, you know, fit into
that and what slot would they take up? I just

(32:20):
can't envision it at all. But of course, you know,
interested to hear the new album Coutter de Gapitation over
in the US, which is a good scene actually active
because they canceled their European festival tour over the summer,
and their statement kind of made yeah, yeah, made it
seem like there was some kind of personal emergency or
something going on, which, of course, whatever that was, you know,
hope things have turned out well there. But they immediately

(32:41):
got back on it because they've announced a US run
for the end of this year. A lot of people
were disappointed thinking they were teasing new music, because there
was heavy captives and teasing throughout the week, but they
were posting imagery and stuff that is quite tied into
the artwork of that album. So maybe if you got
your hopes up, you know, I'm not going to blame
you too much, but I don't think you can blame
them too heavily when it does it.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Feel like it's been that long since the last album anyway,
I know, like they feel.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
That they have quite lengthy Yeah, I'm just saying that
if you were like, oh, I really thought this was
gonna be a new album, a bit of a letdown,
then you know, maybe actually look into what the teasers were.
But yeah, their announcement is they're going to do a
US tour with a very catsic capitation y type of
bill on it Aborted Frozen Soul and Tribal Gaze, which
is a good death metal shows. But they're doing the
Death Actless album as a kind of performance, which is interesting.

(33:27):
That's obviously it's not too far back in their catalog.
It's only one album for the latest one, but it
is not the you know, the newest one, And I
wonder if this is a combination of that album came
out a matter of months before COVID, so the Tory cycle,
you know, might not have been what it would have.
But I also know for a fact, just from interviewing
them and hearingdis and stuff, that's an album that certainly

(33:49):
Travis in that band is very vocal about. He's like,
that's our best album, Like that's the one where we
that's the best thing we've ever made, even with terror
cyiteln coming out, So I think just them treating it
as kind of like this is perhaps our magnum opus
that we didn't tour properly. It'd be a cool fucking
show to see, certainly with that support build. And it's
a great record, you know.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yeah, I mean I think it's one of their albums
I can imagine as like seeing it in full live
it maybe makes the most sense to do.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
It's like as an album, it's that makes us pick
that one. But yeah, I do wonder if it's, as
you say, the the the album never getting the proper
touring cycle may have been a factor there.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, And it might be their biggest album, and my
favorite's always gonna be Monolith, But certainly in a post
bring Back the Plague and all those things. I think
that that's a seminal record for them, So you know,
it'll be a cool show to see if you're over
there in the US. Oh the here, Psilosis are doing
their biggest headline run to date in the UK and
Europe as well, on a bill that features Revocation, Distant

(34:48):
and Life Cycles. Silosis and Revocation is like twenty twelve.
Me would have gone absolutely mad for that double of
like you know, the sickest kind of modern threa rash
type things, by which I mean, you know, kind of
not just retro thrash, but like very twenty first century
self frash bands together still today. It's a good pairing

(35:09):
in it if you want to go along to these
venues where they are doing in the UK, the Kentishtown Forum,
they are in the Ritz in Manchester. Those are you
know for Silosis. Seeing them step up to the Forum,
which there was a time where you could have imagined
them being a perpetual like open up in that venue,
that's cool to see.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
No, it feels like the sort of the post comeback
size have like become just a genuinely like very respectable,
like decent sized metal band, which is for them, like
for a band who like been brilliant and like right
away so long felt like not getting their jews.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's nice to sort of see that they've kind of
landed there in now, Yeah, Queens of.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
The Stone Age. They're cat Comb's tour, which is they're doing,
which is we describe before. It's kind of they're like
stripped back somewhat acoustic but certainly reimagined, you know show
they're doing. They've an austatory in the US, but they
have now this week announced a small little run of
European shows. There is one in London at the Royal
albert Hall, which again, if you were able to attend,
I imagine that'd be really cool in that setting. Seeing

(36:02):
a kind of you know, suits and tie version of
Queens of stone A doing like rickety skeletal stuff sounds
cool and damnation. First of all, this week have added
a small hanvel of bands onto their continually growing massive
two day lineup. An interesting trio added this week of
Spectral Wound, The world is a beautiful place and I'm
no longer afraid to die and dead Guy, Dead Guy

(36:25):
coming back after a couple years away, but now they
have that new album out so fucking great. They were
awesome last time. Happy to see them there. Spectral Wound
one of the current really popular black metal bands, so
I think would go down a storm at Damnation, Wasn't
it Like, Yeah, we saw them Incineration and they were great,
and I'm again I think they'll do very very well there.
The interesting wildcard booking of these three is the World's

(36:45):
a Beautiful Place and I'm No Longer Afraid to Die,
which that kind of like emo essentially, it is not
really a historically represented genre at Damnation, but they do
kind of book more scream oly type bands and heavier
versions of it. And you've mentioned that the World's Beautful
Place on a Long for Her to Die currently seemed
to be indulging their more violent instincts, So maybe it's

(37:06):
a very like time specific appropriate booking, I think.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
I think that's part of it is that then their
recent singles have been really like scathingly heavy. For this
back it was the outbreak performance and then kind of
like the new stuff they've been putting out, I was like, God,
they have just decided they want to be like a
kind of nasty screamo band with occasional kind of like
in kind of post rocky like spacey bits in there
and there and which again, which.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
That that does kind of you know, yeah, fit into
some of what Damnation books as well.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
So I'm like it's it's initially a bit of a
shocking one, but the more I think where, I'm like, no,
I think that could start in quite nicely.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I agree. I love the poster, where again there's lots
of metally looking band logos, you know, and then there's theirs,
which looks like just or borderline comic sands just the
most plain for it looks like it unfinished on the poster,
and obviously the name is really really long, which doesn't
help it. That is actually a good half of editions
on there. So yeah, cool right Patreon dot com slash

(38:02):
That's not metal. We have been very busy in the
pastor of seven days or so, because we put out
two episodes over there for everyone who supports us and
keeps his podcast afloat by doing so, So cheers to
everybody who does that. But first we did our album
club pack, which was kind of long in the making,
but I'm very glad we got it out where we
spoke about twenty one Pilot's Blurry Face and my god,
you need to justify Sam's time, I guess and energy

(38:27):
by indulging us with that one. And then we also
spoke about man O War's battle hymns. Yes, we spoke
about awesome wells. We spoke about Turnovers, Peripheral Visions, speaking
about that generation of emo bands and one of, if
not maybe the best record to come out of them,
and the Devil's Blood the Time of No Time Ever More,
which is such a fantastic record and one I really

(38:47):
want to kind of continually get new eyes on and
try and forge new fans out of because they've been
in a position of being like for the Underground Heads
only for basically their whole career. But it would be wonderful.
But then what we did after that is we put
out the summer album Roulette for twenty twenty five. Sam,
you were not a part of that episode because you
were away when we did it, But it was kind

(39:10):
of ridiculous. There was a lot of really really great
albums where we just like fully did our infusing thing
and again tried to get people onto some really wonderful albums.
And it's been great hearing the feedback about the likes
of Nella kesh or Orange Goblin and so on that
we were talking about. But then it kind of got
a bit ridiculous, and Sam, I know that you have
listened to that episode.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Chances into the whole thing yet, so I've not got
You've got to the It's been so busy, but I've
seen people's reactions and I'm like, I'm gonna find time
tomorrow to just find.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Out what is going on in the world of being Gillan. Yeah,
we had the.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Return Van Gillen to our album discussions, and also Elliott
and Mark tried to get me into Blackstone Cherry. They
tried their absolute hardest and again I think their energy
has to be repaid in some way, even if it
wasn't necessarily coming from me. Really fun episode again had
a lot of really positive feedback, both in terms of

(40:08):
great records that people may not have heard before, but
also just the the album. Roulette's, particularly the seasonal ones
kind of turn in to nonsense.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Sometimes it's always I've missed the last two where you
you don't alp me both times and it's and Elliott
has gone like right, let's get ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
So the last week of those episodes has been really,
really fun. And if you want to hear those and
have a giggle along with us and learn what are
Ian Gillan's opinions about a Tesco farmhouse loaf and the
size appropriate size of its then Bedrian dot com slash
that's not.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Matter to mention though, I Gillan becoming you know, yeah,
the new moment as well. Yeah, Strange Things.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I meant to mention it here, so thank you for
reminding me. But because we did that, and then the
Stranger Things teaser for season five or whatever when they're
currently on came out and I genuinely like I part
of me just in eyed me just kind of expanded
and exploded like a bursting star because the idea of

(41:07):
deep purple now of all moments, after we've manifested it,
getting their Kate Bush Master of Puppet's moment. And then
I've seen in the last couple of days, you know,
places like Nettlehammer and so on, they're doing their like
the story of the song behind Stranger Things, like it's
happening and we were there first, but but I'm happy

(41:28):
for Elliot. Yeah, it's a big moment for everyone here
at T and M. So yeah, cheers everybody. Let's move
on to the releases for this week. In the roughly
the middle of July, I guess this was sort of
dropped somewhere in the mid week, but I thought i'd
mentioned it. Bring Me the Horizon another record of Low
five beats to Study two, which is really funny because
considering their last one went so well, But this is

(41:50):
like reworkings of like you know, their actual songs that
you will know. It's called Low Files and it's basically
again a like chill remix of many Bring Me the
Horizon hits. I haven't into the whole thing because it's very,
very long, and I don't know if I actually need
to hear that, but some of you might be interested.
New records at today, Darren Malachian and Scars on Broadway.
I've got a new record out called Addicted to the Violence.

(42:10):
So that's of course. Darren from System of a Down
Bush are returning with I Beat Loneliness. I'm kind of
interested to hear this. Zach Farrow has a solo album
out called Outsider. That is, of course Zach Farah of
Paramore fame and I know he did that project like
Half Noise for a while. I don't know if this
is kind of a continuation or a reboot or whatever,
but I imagine it won't be rock music. I imagine
it'll be someone kind of like, you know, fun indie

(42:31):
pop or something along those lines. But you know, new
Zach Pharaoh music out there. Laura Jane Grace in the
Trauma Tropes is the name of her twentieth new band,
a new record called Adventure Club. Sam you were saying earlier,
maybe this will be the one, could be.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
The one fifth times the charm Like, Yeah, A new.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Band called Blind Equation. Let me read that. A band
called Blind Equation. You may not know. This is kind
of like a very hyperactive sort of like DG hardcore,
Like it's very again, very online, but like, you know,
very hyperactive electronic influenced rock, with a new record called
Funeral in Purgatory. A band called Stomach, which features members

(43:14):
of the wonderful power violence band Weekend Natchos. This is
them doing more of like a drone doom type you know,
slow rather than very you know fast, Yeah, called low Demon.
But I love Weekend that shows, so that's cool to
see UK sludge, the band called Baal with the record
Fine Line between Heaven and Here, the just pure Swedish

(43:34):
style chainsaw death metal band Entrails releasing their record Grip
of Ancient Evil. The US black metal band who I
have been a fan of at various times throughout their career,
Abigail Williams, are returning with a record called A Void
Within Existence, and there is a split ep between the
bands Haunter and Cape of Bats, both of whom are
very like Devil Master adjacent. You know, They're called Cape

(43:57):
of Bats for Fox's sake, Like it's that kind of
stuff of like fun, yeah, like spooky dingy punk, I
guess to a degree. But they've got a split out
called black Metal sorry, black magic metal Punk. So that
is actually a very good descriptive of what that is.
So that is out for you. Let's move on to
what this episode is really here to do. As much

(44:18):
as I would love to just get back to talking
about Preferatica again, which is sam your report. Yes, from
a festival that we have covered in the past that
we always do cover it on the news and stuff
like that, but in terms of an actual like designated
trip to the festival for the purpose of talking about
it here. It has been a long time since we
have actually had someone at two thousand Trees Festival, and

(44:40):
I would certainly will hold my hand up absolutely and
say it has been overdue, you know, because I have
been to two thousand Trees a couple of times in
the past, but not for a number of years. And
that's not for a lack of years where I've looked
at the line and thought that would be really fun
to go. Sam. It is genuinely shocking to me that
it's your first time two thousand Trees this year, because

(45:02):
you know, obviously Outbreak is like a hardcore festival, but
foot I cannot think of a like rock festival in
the UK which is more you in its vibe and
its bill and the bands it plays and everything involved
than two thousand Trees. And it is quite crazy. I
think that sending you out there as our lovely representative

(45:24):
to two thousand Trees is the first time you've actually been.
So how was that whole experience?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, like it is.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
It is weird because again I've looked at every two
thousand Trees now since about twenty seventeen maybe and gone like, oh,
that's really fucking good.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I should go that year, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
And have ended up somewhere else because it's just I'm
a festival and it's difficult for me to get the
time of work to do multiple festivals outbreak. The last
couple of years has had like me in little bit
of like a viscript, which has been hard to break
away from. But this shit in particular, you know, even
before a certain announcement happened, I looked at these two
thousand trees was like, I think this is the one

(46:00):
for me. I think this is like because again, as
you say, two hundred is it does cover you know,
a load of hardcore books like that, and it does,
you know, book a lot of brit rock and kind
of emo music and that sort of stuff and all
things that I really like. So it does really cater
to my taste. So I was kind of like, I
should really go and yeah, so this was my first

(46:22):
time going there. Happened to be a year when it
was four days of thirty two degree heat and not
a single cloud at the time, which was anyway lovely,
it's gorgeous weather, but you know when it's that for
like four days straight. By day four, you are flagging
a little bit, and we'll kind of get onto the
impact that had.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
But yeah, so two thousand Trees, My immediate thing was
just like lovely site.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Absolutely, like really nice site, great layout, nice compact sides
without feeling too sort of squash, where like it feels
like you're at a small festival.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
It's a nice kind of mid sized festival.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
There's obviously, you know, there's the stage, which we'll kind
of talk about initially.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Even just the layout, and again the vibe of the
site itself makes me think that you specifically would.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Like it, yeah, you know absolutely, like, yeah, the alternating
stage is the kind of like everyone's very relaxed, No
one's kind of like getting to like in your face.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
It's very just a nice, pleasant atmosphere. It's really clean.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
That's one thing I was really impressed by is actually
like everyone picking up their rubbish and just treating the
sight of respect. There was like, you know, just a
lot of things that was start my street and it
was just kind of like almost a meaning.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I was like, yeah, I get it. I get why
this festival.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Has become one that like people go to every because
there is like an energy to two thousand Trees that
does just like set it apart from other festivals, and
I felt that almost immediately.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, completely, because I think one of the things that
I associate with you, you know, is you do you
like hardcore and you like rowdy heavy music, which you know,
when I beat two Thousand Trees in the past, that
has been a healthy dose of what I had been
to see. But you also have, you know, a pump
chant for what we could generally term nice rock, you know, yeah,

(48:07):
and kind of nice dare we even say slightly cute
things that you know, maybe might not be my bag
so much, but like I just think about the pleasantness
of that music in a setting like two thousand Trees,
particularly when you think about the smaller tent or the
forest age or whatever, and I go, yeah, Sam needs
to be there several years ago, not for the first

(48:29):
time now, but you were here.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
The nice thing is like, I'm not going to do
it for review because it was kind of like a
little like epilog at the end, But the last thing
I saw it was on you know, in the campsite.
They have these little stages set up at these sort
of like each camp site. The last thing I saw
was a law wasn't against me cover set, like just
a couple people just bringing on that and just everyone
kind of just singing against me songs, and I was like,

(48:52):
that's kind of the vibe, and yeah, like that, that's
that nice pleasant, I said, almost a little bit tween
cutes at times, but like not going too far into that.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
That sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Combined with a bit of rowdy hardcore and again there's
a lot of like nasty heavy music I sawand Trees
as well, like a real great bands for the two
there are you know, bands I love who at two
thousand Trees are heroes like who I'm always like, oh,
they should be bigger, they should be there, and then yeah,
two thousand Trees is the place they can go to
where they are you know, heroes. They are beloved there,

(49:25):
and again that I think that's really cool. How like
there is like a kind of a welcoming to those
sort of bands and artists which is really nice.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah. I can absolutely think of just several examples off
on the top of my head where well that is true.
So two thousand Trees this year had I think a
particularly strong batch of headliners. Not every single one a
band I like, but certainly, you know, big stories around
a number of them, and some just all time legends
in some of those slots as well. And again across

(49:52):
the bill, for my personal taste, like there will be
every two thousand trees, it is a good mix of stuff.
There's lots of stuff that I don't especially care and
there is lots of stuff that is on a total
flip side as well. So it really is like a
good cross section of not metal so much it's rock,
but the from like the again the softest end of

(50:12):
what we're talking about, borderlane Indie or whatever, all the
way up to full on mossh shit, like yeah, if
somehow finds a continuous home there in a fan base
who kind of appreciates those things. So going into the weekend,
I know you were just saying about the weather, let's
just acknowledge it here. I know for a fact it
was very warm. I am fearing for myself in about

(50:34):
a month's time when I'm a blood talk and I'm
probably gonn experience selling similar. That's what they're all like
now because the world is terrible looking, the world is cooking,
so I can imagine it was probably rough, but you
got there, you set up your stuff in a nice clean,
pleasant campsite whatever. Wednesday through Saturday is how it worked.
The Wednesday was only in the forestage.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Right forestage and the Word stage, which is the the
podcasts and sort of like right happened, Yeah, but they
had set it up with a barrier for bands to
play on this day, which was quite fun cool.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yeah, so that I think that was open the last
time that I went. But and I think the forestage
is whole like refurbished now because when I went, it
was only acoustic sets that happened in So these.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Are the two stages as well that are in the campsite,
not in the arena. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
But this Wednesday I thought was quite fun looking because
it's a lot of mostly small UK a couple non
you know, UK bands, but kind of a fair handful
of what we would maybe consider the kind of like
archetypal t and m underbelly of like rock and you know,
slightly heavy music and so on appearing at this little

(51:43):
kind of Wednesday pre day I suppose. So actually some
of the stuff at the festival that I was most
kind of like jealous of seeing one band in particularly,
I guess, but that turned up here on this Wednesday.
So how was your first day, your pre day at
tea dosent tries.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Yes, so I missed Taggard Cat unfortunately, which was just
because of the delays of the shuttle bust and getting
in getting set up.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
So the first band I caught was Vour, which is
a Peak Reader or whatever you as.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Yeah, so it's Black Pigs, members of Black Peaks, members
of Palm Reader. And this is another one why I say,
like Palm Reader or a band who are always going
to be bigger, and they were for them were this
bands you hear like of their kind of like legendary
for them two thousand Tree sets where they would be
packing out the cave stage and stuff like that, like
they had that regard. So Vour, which is you know,
a new band played their first show at two thousand

(52:33):
Trees last year.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I believe.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Like the hand got an album out, but they were
like the first time was like, yeah, no, this is
quite a cool sort of way to s coming toes them.
I haven't been blown away by the foul material yet,
considering the sort of the members involved, I think it's
very good. It's very much where you would imagine sort
of the latter Palm Reader stuff with a bit more
black peaks in the music to go. It is kind
of leaning into the more kind of melodic like post

(52:59):
Row Postmary sort of stuff. But it's called Josh and
he is a hell of a vocalist and he seems
like just very much enjoying doing Valor right now. That
forestage at that even at that stage was very full
and people were singing along for again a brand new band,
like they've clearly got something established already at two thousand Trees.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
This was, you know, their first of two sets over
the festival.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
There was a couple of bands who were like say,
playing the Wednesday as well as the main sort of festival,
so I didn't see their main set, but this was
a cool taste and a kind of like a nicer
way to ease into the vibe of two thousand Trees
after I cut over to the like I said the
word stage to see a band Buds, who are a
Southampton sort of DIY punk band. Again, they are exactly

(53:42):
the kind of like upbeat, bubbly fundy punk band you
could see just going down well at two thousand Trees.
A little bit hardcourt in them because I think they're
like I think they're basis he kind of screams a
little bit and he's kind of got a bit more
of an attic stage presence. But they were just a
very fun, energetic hit of like diy punk packed how
that small stage, everyone was having a lovely time. It was.

(54:02):
It was nice again continuing it, the first real can
like standout set of the Wednesday for me was Unpeople.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yes, Unpeople, I've seen them before and I've heard like
their EP's and stuff that come out. I don't really
think they're for me, but the people who love un
People are like really like trying to shoot them to
the moon, you know, and kind of positioning them as
like one of the best designated to be like, you know,
a breakout band in this country certainly, And I've heard
a lot about this. I think their kind of home

(54:34):
base of support is basically at the two thousand Trees,
you know, and I've heard a lot about this set
as a display of that.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
So like obviously on People, it's former members of Press
Tamiko and De Laire the Layah I come over with
the drum Wars in another band. But there again, you know,
fairly well liked you like britt rock bands, who are
again pretty well established at two thousand, two thousand trees
sets of the weekend.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
They were also playing the main stage the next day.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
What they decided to do for this forest set though,
was have a party. And how do you start a party?
You started by covering Beastie Boys. You've got to fight
for your right to party. That's a cheat code to
make me like your band open with a Beatie Boys
cover and I'm like, you know what you're You're good
by me?

Speaker 1 (55:14):
So this was hot.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
They they played.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Like I think four or five covers in this forest
stage set and then a handful of their own material.
But it was such a genius move to drop these
covers because it just meant everyone was having fun, Like
everyone knew five the right to party everyone. Then they
went into hash Pipe. They then did like a sort
of like a metal sort Rifles, where they did a
bit of Sweet Leaf and I Come with a CDC song.
They were playing a bit off but they did a
sort of mash up like riffing like that.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
It was just a really fun kind of.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Like yeah, you know what you're you're getting, You're you're
getting the festival mood going where you like, you want
to play your own songs and you get those out there,
and again loads of people knew their own songs they
played in the middle of the set, which was like
they've gone a real solid fan base at two Trees.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
It's two thousand trees, so what do you do? You
cover Reuben?

Speaker 3 (55:58):
They cover Blame far by Ruben again and then ended
with a cover of Sugar by System of Down. So
but again you look at the songs they've covered there
as an eclectic Nix, it was a really sort of
fun thing and as a band they are really energetic,
really charismatic on stage, going by like again, I'm not
still if I'm like all in on people as like
the next best thing in bridge rock music. But it

(56:19):
was a really fun, impressive showcase for them, and I'm
definitely gonna keep an eye when that album drops. That'll
be when the sort of the proof comes is like,
let's hear the album, you know, but live really really
fun band, like really likable, really charismatic, and even when
they're not playing covers, which again which is the folks
of this set, the new songs that they are bouncing,
they're a lot of personality. This isn't you know you

(56:41):
sort of like Bland, nice sky brit Rock. This is
like got a bit more like of a wink to
it and more of a spark.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
So that was really fun.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
After that, though I took a beef recker, didn't run
over to watch whoever was on the Word stage, because
it was the reason I turned up on the Wednesday
essentially next, which was Blood Command.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
And when I say about when I was looking at
two thousand and three, because I was considering for a
moment if I could make it down for this as well,
and there was three or four bands in particular where
I was like, I'd love to see them, and on
this Wednesday Block Command of the one because there are
guys and Gala.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Yeah, they are just the coolest band. I love this
band so much.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
They are again since Nicky has joined, they've become the
live band I've always wanted them to be. You know,
they're coming out all decked, all in their added ass
track suits and all that like looking so cool something
else is and then you know this is just what
punk rock music should be, like that their whole thing
of what they're doing is just like these songs are amazing.

(57:41):
You know, still quite a lot of the new art
of work world donation that when they're doing for Solders
of Vesta and stuff like that and Heaven's Hate like
Blackened kind of like punk songs. During a Villain's monologue,
Invaders had to light a cigarette and then not touch
it for the entire song and just gonna like I
was like, smoke. It was that we would take it
as well, and I was like, man, I know smoking
is bad, but fuck me, is this is the coolest

(58:01):
person who's looked on stage so far this weekend of
him just like better Eve to take this cigaretut of
his mouth and just going to smoke it.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
I was like, that's that is cool. And on a
song like a Villain's Monologue, which is you know proper,
Struta Nikki is.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Like such a fascinating figure to what's on stage because
she is like gyrating and thrusting and climbing and just
doing whatever the fuck she feels like doing while she
is shrieking and singing and just kind of commanding the card.
She stood on the crowd. She is getting like saying,
fucking crowds over here, Moss, come on, let's go. And
it was just like I was a little bit gud there,

(58:35):
you know, they were only on the Wednesday and the
Forest stage. But like I want to say again, bands
kind of having a party vibe for this Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Blood Command fucking delivered on that.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
I have got any shows or anything around it or
did they just.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
They're in Europe at the moment.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
They have got a London headline show in a couple
of weeks as well, but at the moment they were
touched over for this, but they're doing loads of festivals
and shows all up and down Europe, so that they
are there, they're active and touring right now. The new
songs they played as well, I can't think what the
one that is like really popping up beat. That sounded
amazing live. I was like, it's got quite long, but
I've coming from but yeah, that was that was great.

(59:11):
And yeah, another just brilliant set from Blood Command.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
I should say as well that my cousin who I
go to Bloodstock with, told me that she crowds her
for the first time in her in her mid forties
to Blood Command, who she'd heard of just there and
then that day, so sound like it was.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
It was. It was a great part. It was yeah,
really good.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Next up for me was about I wasn't so familiar with,
but I kindly just watched because I was curious Panic Shack,
who are like feminist punk. It's very kind of like right,
a girl influenced, very sort of bubbly, lots of character.
I was kind of hanging a bit for her backfast
because I, you know, just been down the front of
Blood come on, and I was like, let's let's, you know,
chill at the back, see what's.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Going on here.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
But yeah, they've got an album coming out in like
end of this week, I think, or I have a
next week, which sounds like based on the songs they played,
I was like, I think I might quite like this
in terms of just punk with a little bit with
just a bit of bite to it, where like again
very kind of like lots of word playing, sort of
like scathing lyrics as you would spect from the sort
of feminist punk bands. But yeah, carrying on the party
Groce Street over on the tiny little word stage, they

(01:00:11):
decided that like what they'll do is this teen was
already four of moshers and people were looking for a
hard fun time. Let's throw a load of inflataballs and
like beach balls and poor floats into the crowd and
just let people CrowdSurf and moss with those flying about
great fun vibes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I like grocery there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
You know, all those reliable uk Hargle bands, they're never
gonna be like I've seen them a bunch. They you know,
support loads of bands that they're always about, but they
kind of like again, had the right idea for let's
just have fun, let's cut loose people. So people were
like inflatable lilos, crowdsurfing over beach balls, battering around security,
getting involved in kind of like passing the beach balls

(01:00:46):
about big, big fun party vibes. As that was like
the main bulk of what I saw on the Wednesday.
I was gonna see Hot Milk, and then I got
to stage and just sat down into them, and I
was like they were headlining the sort of the Forest
Sage like properly, and I was just like, yeah, it's
just not for me. I'm just gonna know, chill, I'm
gonna wait for what's coming up next, which was something

(01:01:07):
I had no idea how this was gonna work. But
the final thing I saw on the Wednesday was the excerpts,
which you know exits are two thousand Trees that films
again like you know Home Run.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
They're one of those bands I was just thinking of
when you were saying bands who we often say should
be bigger, but they have their little pocket of support.
I've seen the excerpts several times at two thousand Trees
and they've always been one of those like hero type bands.
This is that I saw a video of this is
this the set where everyone was wearing silent disco headphones
but while the band.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Was so this was happening after eleven o'clock at night,
so this was after you know, bands have to stop
playing in its silent disco time. But what they did
this year is on the Forest stage every night they
had a band playing as part of the Silent Disco
so Elon had their headphones on and basically the Scientist
Go feed was basically the band's feed was like directly
through to wherever like the Silent Disco feed was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
So I was kind of like, how is this?

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
This sounds very bizarre, is like the excerpts, Like Mara
was like, yeah, so we have no idea how this
is about to go. Please be nice to us and
they kicked in to Live like This and I was like,
fucking yeah, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
And then the feed cut out after.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
The first chorus and it was kind of like, oh no,
it's a disaster. And then and then the guy was like,
because it's half of we'll get this better. Wires got
it back up. The marra was like, can we just
start again and pretend that didn't happen? Kicks back into
Live like this and it was like, do you know
what I'm watching the excerpts? It took second to adjust
and everything. I would shake my heads off and just
hear no band and they were just everyone singing along

(01:02:33):
to excerpts songs. But it did actually work, and I'm like,
if this is how they can get you know, bands
playing later into the night after they have to stop
because of whatever noise complaint things are going on. Because
again it's like half eleven. I actually think this is
a pretty good solution. It worked really well, and for
the most part, this was a fucking great excerpt set.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Is the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
The only thing that is kind of strain to me
about this is the idea of a part of the
whole thing of live music is the sort of you know,
communal element to it, and I understand that that obviously
you were standing next to people who were singing along
and all dancing at the same time, and so like
that that element is there, but the there's something about
having like the sound beamed directly into your head through
your own personal headphones that kind of Again I'm not

(01:03:15):
experienced this, so but my imagination of it is it's
it just wouldn't feel exactly like a open air live show,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
I get.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
I mean, I think the thing is it did still
sound like a live band. Like I was, I was like,
is this going to sound like a live band? Is
this going to sound like more process? And I was like, no,
actually that they like whether the thing they've got going
on like it does sound still pretty authentic.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I do agree.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
I'm not saying that this should be way forward, but
as again as a late night option of like how
we can do this, I think it's it's a pretty
cool workaround.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
And again, for the most part set this was amazing.
They played Gimme It was a bit of a shame.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Murray did say they are doing a new album and
it's it's going to be different to the last one,
he was almost kind of like apologetic that they still
play gimme, but he came down into the crowd and
kind of like did it from there, which was you know,
pretty fun, I guess, and then you know, the fish
out and they go medi into feels like Falling in
Love in Aberdeen nineteen eighty seven, which I was kind
of like, man, so close to a perfect set list

(01:04:16):
for the excerpts of like kind of like a fifty
minute Vestibal set so close to being perfect, and it
did kind of remind me that, like, I do fucking
love this band. I know that last album was a misfire.
If they can get the next album right, I will
forgive them for everything. But I had a lovely time
and this was kind of like, yeah, what a way
to end my first thousand trees is just kind of
like singing along to the excerpts weirdly from my headphones.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
But it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
After taking a little bit of adjustment, I kind of
just settled into, like, you know, I think it was
by the time they got to like Daydream, which was
song three or four, I was kind of like, oh,
I'm just belting out Daydream and I don't care about
anything else, right, now, so that wraps up the Wednesday
pre day, which then I guess takes us into the
festival proper.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
First up for me was over on the main stage.
Some of these will be a bit rapid.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Fire because there's again I saw a lot on these,
and I'm going to try and like get through some
of them quicker and spend a bit more time on
the ones that needs it. But first thing I saw
was Meryl Streek opening the main stage.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah, I'm curious about this whole thing because I I
was explained Damnation as well. It's like a band that
I guess it has been collectively adopted by like the
Damnation two Thousand Trees, Arch Tangents ort of crowd. But
it's also doesn't seem like a I don't know, a
conventionally heavy band. It's kind of a political slam poetry thing, right, Yeah,
I think it's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
One of those like post punks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Will tries to label this, but it's a drummer and
the vocalist and then they've got some stuff on tracks
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
As I kind of wish there was a bit of
a band going on, but it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Is just kind of very angry, passionate, politically charged kind
of like I guess you could say post punk is
kind of delivery, and that's very sort of stark, and
I mean it kind of like works when I icually
linking up with what the headlines were being, you know,
again again very like out there, kind of irish, politically
charged sort of act. Maybe a little bit too dour
to kick off the main stage in the heat it was,

(01:06:06):
but it was it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Was interesting to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
I wasn't totally blown away by it, but like, I
can see why people who like this can like hang
off his performance because he is again very passionate about
like what he's shouting at you in those moments, and
it is, you know, coming from a very genuine place.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
So course sort of way to start and just maybe
not right to kill the main stage.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
And he played the tent on the Wednesday, and I
think maybe it would have been better suited to something
like that, like in a more intimate thaying like that
would have like carried a bit better. Next up, I
dashed over to the Cave stage for what probably the
heavier size you saw over the weekend, which was Grief Ritual.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Yeah, we review their album at the end of this year,
and that's like yeah, certainly at the gnarliest end of
what is yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
No, And they sounded fucking gnarly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
They like really good, actually live very kind of like
big bruising, but very passionate. Again like this is one
thing and it's funnier the people groaning about it. Like
a lot of bands, like Actively the Trees, there is
kind of a very clear leftist political ideology, and like
a lot of bands were very like every almost like
majority of bands I saw use their stage to kind

(01:07:13):
of like speak up on some issue, be it trans rights,
be it what's going on in America, what's going on
in Palestine. Like there was a lot of kind of
like very politically charged sentiments, and I know, afe people
grum by.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I was just like, do you know what festival you're at?

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Like, come on, this feels like the sort of like
place where bands who have this sort of like mindset
are going to kind of gravitate towards and share that,
and majority of the fans there are gonna replicate those
kind of things. But like Grief Rich will you know,
they were like very much like they did them talk
about like police brutality, and they were very vocal about
trans rights and LGBTQ rights and what's going on in

(01:07:48):
this country there, which again for me, I was so like,
that's fucking cool they put out I don't know who
she was, but for their last song, which I can't
what they closed with, but basically transfer to kind of
do some like vocals with them for this last song,
which again was just talking about like attacks on trans
people and stuff like that, and that was like a
very kind of like you know that they're they're they're
like properly standing behind their sort of words on that.

(01:08:11):
That was that was very cool, really impressed grief for
Ritual live. I l liked the album, very good live show.
Next up, I stalk about on the Cave stage watching
a band called Rifle, who are a punk band I
knew nothing about, but they are like the most rebellion
fests sort of like punk band you can imagine, like
vocalists are proper geezer like any cockspar covers, no covers,

(01:08:36):
but like that exactly that kind of like vibe of punk.
It was a little bit pastiche but really fun to
be fair, like I was like, you're playing characters a
little bit, but had a lot of fun watching them.
If you can just kind of get into the vibe
of just like shangy by getting shouted by an angry.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Cop me man.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Next up, I moved over to the Axiom stage to
watch super Bloom, who we review a couple of years ago.
I really liked that record. I've never seen him live,
and I was kind of like, oh, go check them out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
I've kind of forgne what.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
A y'all their vocalist has, like he's fully doing the
like like nineties grunge y'all over the kind of like
just really cool. Like I mean, mainly my thing with
them was like, ah, fuck me that guitar Tony is
cool nineties ort rock thing, and again there was a
lot of that over this weekend. Super Bloom get the
benefit of being the first one I watched of that before.
I was kind of like, Okay, cool, you don't have

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one of these bands. But they were really fun, like
because they have that slight hardcore kick to sort of
like the banded clearly into hardcore at the same time
as playing like shoe gayzy aort rock, but then they
have that kind of like again that grunge y'all to it,
and it was kind of like, this is this is
really cool actually to kind of like here on festival this.
I mean, they they you know, they haven't actually played
a load of live shows because I think you know,

(01:09:50):
when when they were first sort of coming about, it
was middle of COVID and all that. So they're now
kind of like properly getting into being a proper town band.
But really enjoyed super Bloom. Next that was back over
to the main stage to watch un People Round two,
where this was purely their own songs. They pulled a
really big crowd to the main stage. I was kind
of like, this is you know, two thousand Trees is

(01:10:12):
clearly this band's kind of like home turf.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Already crowd were loving it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
I was kind of like, again, just you're not playing
you know, Beastie Boys covers, which is immediately gonna get
me on side.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
How is it? And I was kind of like, yeah,
I'm definitely curious to hear the album.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
As I said, it was impressive to sort of see
the scope of what they've already managed in the place
like two thousand Trees, and they're clearly already beloved.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
They're good fun.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Back over on the Axiom then I saw because where
they kind of had the stages is like you have
the the main stage and the Cave stage are at
the same time, and then the Aximum and I think it's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
The new stage, so they're like kind of all tank
so there's always going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
A stage on somewhere, and it's all very close together,
so you can bounce between the two quite easily. I
went over to watch Dream Nails, who I've been a
fan of dream.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
For a while.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Really liked their debut album. Again just kind of feminist punk.
They're on like their I'll come to their third album.
They've already had like several lineup changes. Every album has
had a different vocalist. They're now currently a three piece
and watching I was kind of like, you're trying to
find your footing as a free piece right now. You're
you're adapting to not having a vocalist. Was at the

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front of the stage, kind of actually delivered these songs
with a bit of bite. They weren't bad, but they
played quite a lot of unreleased material as that that
they're kind of jamming as the three.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Piece version of the band.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Not the prime moment to see them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Yeah, this kind of was that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
It was It was just kind of like, Okay, maybe
when you saw sailed down this and you've kind of
like got things a bit more together, I'll give you
another chance. But it was not a bad tip, but
maybe just because I'm a fan of the band, a
little bit underwhelming. I then dashed across over to the
Cave stage to watch VEX two again. When we've you know,
covered a few times on the podcast really heavy live,

(01:11:58):
they are properly We rag on genty metalcore a lot
now nowadays, but vexed have like just I don't know
if it's an attitude thing, if it's not an overly
processed kind of thing to it. They just it's it
doesn't sound you know, faceless when you've got that at
the front of it, because she's barking out, like bullying
this crowd into sort of like mushing. It just feels

(01:12:20):
someone's more volatile than into any other genty metalcore band there.
So I was like, yeah, Vexs were really good, fun
Like I said, the Cave being the kind of the
hub for a lot of the hardcore stuff at the festival,
good vibe in that stage, and like, yeah, just like
properly Larry back on the acidment. It was a Puppy
and I like not to feel like Puppy or one

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of the kind of real what could have been bands, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
I didn't realize they were actually because they played They
did a little tour like in very recently about a
month or so ago, and I saw it and I
was quite surprised there to actually see them out on
the rodeo because it felt like they they released that
second album and then kind of vanished. I don't know
if this is then coming back after period of activity
or if they have just been plugging away kout a
site for a while, but like I was like, all
Puppy are actually like kind of you know about again,
and it felt like hadn't seen them in a moment.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
So that's why I made sure to see him at
this because I was kind of like, oh, you know what,
I really liked Puppy back in like the sort of
like late Winters that twenty eighteen period where it felt
like they were one of like the real kind of
like UK bands we can rally behind. And again that
second Albu wasn't bad, but it was just kind of
like the Viable was a bit off for kind of
like a bit of an overdue follow up to like
kind of a bit of a cult classic debut. But yeah,

(01:13:27):
Puppy were really good, to be fair, They had a
few sound issues every now and then, but they did
pull a decent crowd onto that Axiom stage. So I
wonder if you know, again, they're just have a band
who are kind of woven into the two thousand Trees
DNA a little bit, so they can like pull probably
the biggest crowd I saw on that stage of the
day so far. But yeah, you know the new songs

(01:13:51):
that they actually kind of like fit a bit more
live in, but it is you know, black Hole Arabella
in Tomb to Close, whether we're kind of like the
ah up, these songs are still like fucking get that
main rift in the dinner in it, dinning in It
didn't still sounds properly like meaty live Arabella got you know,
arms up singing even during some of the technical difficulty

(01:14:13):
to do it. So I was kind of like, again,
this one was one was like this just is this
just a two thousand Trees thing of like Puppy being
woven into sort of the fabric of this festival or
is it kind of like a puppy of gearing back
up there, you know, getting back out there and we
might start to see a bit more than and then
become more of a presence.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Had fun with that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
Next up was probably my favorite kind of undercard set
of the Thursday, which was spaced over on the Cave stage.
And the thing is is not actually loose report, but
this is just really fucking good hardcore. They're another one
and again like the current trend of like one word
like hardcore bands, they're one of those. And they were

(01:14:54):
just really fucking good, Like they've got a kind of
more punky edge. The vocalist she's really lary, which always helps.
Like when they saw bands and the vocalist is again
kind of like bullying the crowd and saying fucking show
me your style.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Fucking move about come on that. But like again that
they really sad him last year.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Which is fifteen minutes long, like that like is it
does exactly what it says in the tin, but I
just caught me on the right move. I was of like,
I'm having so much fun watching this and it's just
like really cool vibes.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Again, like one thing I want.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Wation now, diversity and the quality of cross festival lineups
is like one of those hot big things.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
I will always say Trees.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
This year I saw probably more bands with women or
like like something about across like in them across the
whole festival they have any other reason.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
I was like, that's nice to see, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Two three is that like Genie trying to sort of
take this into accountas booking, And it was like one
of those things that I did is kind of notice
about the festival and was very appreciative of that, like
queer people, women, people of like it is like trying
to push a kind of like more diverse festival bill
and not just kind of book the same for white
dudes in the and which again I don't think is
the be all and end or festival bookings, but it's

(01:16:03):
you know, it's a discussion that happens every year with
festival lineups, and I think Trees had sort of taken
into account this year and really tried to like mix
things up. But yeah, Space Smack You around the Face
thirty minutes are hardcore punk, and I think they have.
Then they had like a forty minute set and they
were done in thirty minutes because they basically played everything
because you know, that's the sort of band they are.
It was kind of like I was like, well water,

(01:16:23):
I was like, don't need to give space forty minutes,
and then they.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Didn't because they were done in half an hour.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
I would imagine I can't think they played out Back
this year, but like they'll they will be appearing at
Outbreak in the not too distant you like maybe next
year or something of that, if they haven't really done
so already, because they're exactly that's all bands who will
like get the crowd flinging themselves off the stage from
the highlight of the Doubt to this point to probably
the low light of the entire festival. For me, like

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like and the Pie's of thing like Battlesnake. I saw
our sheer curiosity because you know they I see people
people just us. In the TNM discord, they were like
really out there booking for two thousand Trees. I wanted
to kind of be like, right, what's the deal then,
And I will say they actually as a festival booking
I kind of get where where their placement comes from,

(01:17:13):
because a comedy heavy metal band at a festival like
two thousand Trees is going to be something that is
going to probably a lot the more casual festival ghosts
who just want to have fun are probably going to
have a good time with because you know, they're in
silly costumes, their songs are all named silly things, and they're.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Kind of like throwing the horns and talking about being
how metal they are.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
But I think Bottle Snake is it's like, your gimmick
is always in the heavy metal silly, but always the
heavy metal silly is funnier when it's played straight. I've
just been, you know, a Man of Warrior for the
last few weeks, and Man of War are so much
funnier than Bottle Snake because there's no irony. They are
so like I was kind of like it, I have
more fun with heavy metal when it is played one

(01:17:56):
hundred percent straight and kind of fully embracing the stupidity
var them be like, oh the Devil, isn't that silly?

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Like I was kind of like yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
I understand it's an outline booking for two thousand trees.
It's perfect bloodstock, second or third stage on the Thursday
type bookie, isn't it? And my mind goes to like,
man O War are one of the fucking greatest things
ever I am so excited to see them this weekend.
Nana War of Steel, who I've seen playing on Bloodtop Thursdays,
fucking suck. And it's for this exact reason we're talking

(01:18:29):
about it, and the reason they will never have anything
on the the not only the like genuine quality and
great songs, but also just the fun of actual man
O war. You know, they will always just whimper in
the shadow of them these bags.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Yeah, and that's it's like like the riffs were fine,
but like none of the songs were actually particularly like
the lyrics weren't. Actually I was like, it's not she
any really jokes here, There's nothing I'm laughing at. Is
kind of like oh that's such a fun bit of
word play or anything like that. It was kind of
just like heavy metal silly in it. And like, yeah,
it didn't do with me, but like I would be
lying if I didn't say it went down very well

(01:19:04):
at two thousand Trees, so I get the booking, but
just not for me. And it did briefly make me
hate the entire continent of Australia, Like I was gonna like,
you know, where do we need Australia anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Australia redeemed itself the day after.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
I will just mention like, yeah, so that was kind
of like ugh, and that led us into the sort
of the end part of first of the co headliners
of the day. So obviously yeah, first up obviously the
first the first time Friday were co headlined, and then
the Saturday had its own singular headliner. But first up

(01:19:37):
on the Thursday was Paris or puvus We'll just get
out of the system.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
You know, we all like to say Puveris every now
and then. So I was like, I wouldn't see this
as a so curiosity thing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
I still genuinely do quite like the first Paris album,
Like I never got it while I was being pushed
as sort of rock music. It's a pop album, but
I think it's a pretty good pop album. I kind
of tuned out of them shortly afterwards. They were, you know,
part of that wave of twenty fifteen, kind of like
as we talked about in our recent album Club, they were.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
They were a part of that, and I think they were.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Listen to if you want to, yeah, yeah, do go
listen to that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
But I think Paris were way better than so much
else going on in that sort of scene. They were
writing better songs, but I did kind of like tune
out of them fairly quickly. So I was like, Okay,
you know what, Paris, I've not seen you since, like
you played slam Dunk many many years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
What have you got for me? I don't think I
know any of the newer stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
Turns out I did, actually, I guess, through some form
of osmosis, pick up more Paras songs than I thought
I knew. But I will say pleasantly surprised by how
good Paris were. My my biggest criticism, and I don't
know how you fix this. They didn't feel like a headliner.
Their sort of presence on stage. They had a headliner set,

(01:20:54):
you know, they played a lot of songs, like poured
a big crowd, but it was out. They didn't have
a backdrop or anything. They didn't have anything to kind
of distinguish them as a headlining band. So it was
just kind of it felt a bit didn't feel like
a headlining set, which is like I don't know if
that that's their fault or not, but it was just
the vibe didn't feel like it kind of was like
I'm watching a festival headliner right now, Yeah, which is

(01:21:16):
my biggest gripe with the step.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
You know, I was watching, you know, I was keeping
a curious eye through your Instagram stories and stuff like
that and these like on you know, on both days,
the first co headliner playing just out in the open
sun visually with again not the largest production anything. Visually,
it looked to me like any number of bands I've
seen on the two Thousand Trees's main stage in you know,
the late afternoon or something. And I did look at

(01:21:39):
that and go, It's funny that that's the headliner compared
to maybe what then came afterwards.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
I mean, I will say Cod at the base they
had their own backdrop and they I think they had
like the presence of I was like, no, I feel
like I'm watching a headline band through just their kind
of like presence on stage like that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Paris just didn't quite have that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
And again, like not entirely their fault, but it was
just one of those things I noticed, especially compared to
what actually did headline that day where they they they
did feel like a gap, but that said, they sounded great.
Lynn's vocals have like over the years, again, I've not
seen it in a long time. They've got a bit gruffer.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
She's kind of singing out a lower register now, which actually,
to me kind of adds a bit more weight to it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
I don't want to say they were like heavy, but
they are heavy alive than they are on record. Like, yeah,
there was like a little bit of backing tracks, but
there's also quite a lot of it is played as
a band thing. She's on guitar for a lot of
the set. I mean, the only other thing is one
that made it. They kind of just like powered through
I think like twenty songs in just over an hour,
like they were you know, there wasn't many kind of

(01:22:39):
breaks or kind of like big moments to pop off.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
But I I, you know, I did enjoy it when
they were playing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
Is it the same Patrick which was of the like
debut whichever, like in my house near the end of
the set, which like did sound great and was like
big sing alongs, crowd bounce along, like the crowd reaction
that was, you know, a step above what I'd seen
to the DAB at this point. So I don't want
to like tak paris. I actually enjoyed the set way
more than I expect too. It was just of the headliners,

(01:23:07):
it was by far the most low key headline set.
And I again, you know the nature of Paris as
a band, how they perform live, all those sort of things,
they may all just be factors in it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
But it was just I did kind of feel was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Like, is there a way we can kind of like
dress up these couradline sets to make them like feel
a little bit more kind of like headliner worthy. And
coheat the next day did it a little bit, but
just one of those things to maybe like that, like,
is a way to do it for Old Trees. I
know it's not a festival that's renowned for you know,
bands bringing the stage shows.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
That's just not the vibe there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
But it was just the thing about Paris that maybe
mark them down slightly against other headliners. Next up though,
and this is like this felt like almost like a
definitive two Thousand Trees set. You're gonna hate it, But
I went to see Twin Atlantic.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
I saw Twin Atlantic headlining the two Thousand Trees main
stage one of the years that I went, one of
the couple of times I've seen, so I guess in
some sense they've stepped down it's not a massive surprise
or too too shameful for them to be in that slot,
but they are about who I have actually seen topping
the bill at two thousand Trees.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
I mean, I think it talks about the scale of
the headliners, like I think has grown in terms of
its headliners and also to Atlantic have you know, step
down a little bit, but they still are respected enough
to headline the Axiom second stage and put and fill
out that tent.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Do you know what?

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Though they were like greeted again as two thousand Trees
here as everyone loves and it's the most kind of
into a live performance I've seen toWin Atlantic for fucking ages,
like I was in a few times, and that there
was a period where they I really liked Atlantic. They
were sleep walking through their live shows like I don't
know what had happened, but like even Sam just couldn't

(01:24:48):
be bothered this one, Like they seemed genuinely infused to be.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Playing whether it was the older stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Whether it was the new material, Like there was an
energy performance and the crowd kind of got going with.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
It as well.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
It is, you know, the material of Free, which is
the best stuff they're playing live that title track, Yes
I was drunk. They did a Crash Crash Land, which
is the lovely acoustic battle off the album Heart and
Soul to close the set as like a big, rousing
rock number. I thought, you know, nice career spanning set.
Played some of the stuff of the new album, avoided
all of the really bad stuff like off of however

(01:25:23):
many albums that are between the Great Divide and the
newest album, Like, they played a couple songs, but it's
the you know, the pretty good stuff. And again, because
they were actually quite enthusiastic live, the energy sort of
got going for it, so I was like, yeah, really
good stuff in Twin Atlantic. Actually, I always kind of
expecting this to just be like, oh, you know, I'm
going to really enjoy it when they play.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Free and like, han't Soul enjoyed pretty much the whole set,
So like, good job to an Atlantic.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
And then finally it's time to close up the first
day with probably the most kind of like vital feeling
set at the festival, the z the one it's going
to be the headline grabbing set in terms of like
this set is bigger than two thousand Trees in a
lot of ways, and you know, with everything going on
but a kneecap.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Yeah, so this, I guess we need to do a
little bit of a kind of a foregrounding to this.
I feel like it's somewhat been Like we spoke about
the Bob Villain situation a couple of weeks ago, and
the Radar fallout and the Glastonbury fallout and all the
stuff that I'm with then, and I think maybe us
speaking about that has taken the edge off of this
a little bit. And I don't know, maybe the headlines

(01:26:32):
have moved on elsewhere or something. But there was a
while when the fact that Kneecap were actually playing two
thousand Trees was actually national news because they'd had every
other fucking show under the sun cancel or pulland or whatever.
And when two thousand Trees, who had already like long
before you know, the Kneecap scandal, I suppose you'd call
it from when they played Coachella, they'd had them booked

(01:26:52):
to the headliner. When two thousand Trees, I guess, just
made the clarifying point that also very very like you know,
sad worked as a marketing scheme, but it was just
a clarifying point of this band having all of their
shows pulled, they are still playing two thousand Trees. You know,
we are informing you they will be playing two thousand
Trees in the summer. And that became like a fucking

(01:27:14):
a hub of you know, all the contention and discussion
that was going on around the whole Kneecap thing. Like
we said when we discussed Bob Villain, I think that
we have kind of set ourstoll out and making the
point that we kind of put out there clear enough,
which is that we feel, whether it be Kneecap or
Bob Villain or whatever, the media circus and then being
tired with certain brushes and certainly being fucking taken to

(01:27:36):
court as terrorists or whatever has been happening with with
Kneecap is a media and government distraction from the ongoing
support of Israel's genocide in Palestine. Does that mean that I,
I don't know, am unequivocal in my support for Neecap
or whatever in terms of the shall we say, you know,
the free speech trial and everything that's going on. Yes,

(01:27:58):
I don't really have any personal like affinity necessarily for Kneecap.
I don't really like their music. It's not for me,
but it does kind of strike me as like slightly
novelty hip hop music that has a you know, a
political kind of strand to it. I also think some
of the ways that Kneecap did position themselves perhaps does

(01:28:19):
deserve some criticism, right, not necessarily being taken to court
as terrorists and having every show they've ever fucking you
know booked outside of two thousand trees pulled as part
of a government investigation, you know, level criticism, but doing
things like like posing with Hesbala literature and stuff like that,
like that maybe does invite certain levels of like, you know,

(01:28:41):
I think Kneecap do do things with a certain level
of provocation. Yeah, provocation and like what's the word I'm
looking for, sort of you know, blowing things up for
the press and to kind of turn some heads without
necessarily fully thinking through the political kind of you know,
statements that they are making and so so do like

(01:29:02):
Tom Morello, for example, you know, just got into a
fight with David Draymond over the same old bullshit, but
he said something like Kneecap are the rage against the
machine of now in terms of the headlines and becoming
this lightning rod for again, like discussions about an artist's
right to criticize political institutions and so on. Yeah, in
terms of like are they I don't know, as incisive

(01:29:23):
necessarily or like as fully fought through as a ragings
machine personally, I would maybe not go that far, but
just to get it out there that again, like a
things that I don't think NCAP themselves. Again, I'm not
criticizing their politics so much as they're like the pres
stunt aspect of it, kind of putting out things that
you know are not necessarily helpful. But they've all kind

(01:29:44):
of put it together in this line of this is
our kind of line of attack against particularly the right
wing you know kind of institutions and you know, things
like the government of Israel and so on. But that
has made them a lightning rod for contention that did
spill up, you know, spill out into things that aren't

(01:30:05):
bigger than just them, I suppose. Yeah, And that all
made this particularly two thousand Trees set and the fact
I mean in terms of again news and the event
and kind of striking the moment and everything. Even if
Kneecap are in my opinion, far from being the best
band to ever headline two thousand Trees. This is the
most like of the moment historic two thousand trees headline

(01:30:28):
set there ever has been, potentially ever will be.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Yeah, I hope, I mean, I think I'm full credited
for sticking like to this and not caving down and
pulling the cap. Where again, as we said, like it
feels like, you know, there were like threats and doxing
attempts and all that going on to these special organizers
who were like booking the beer Bob Villain, be Ancap whatever.
I mean, I do gen'ly think like James will do
that and and the two thousand Trees, the whole crew,

(01:30:52):
whoeveryone puts the best one credit and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
For like sticking to this.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
These things are like I quite like NCAP, I'm I wasn't,
you know, kind of like they're the greatest thing to
happen to hip hop ever in recent years.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Like sot of thinking that some people are.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
I think they they clearly have you know, come out
as from a sort of stumpart of like they are.
Their whole music is kind of like baked in Irish
history because it is you know, trying to maintain the
Irish language, which is like where they feel that that
is being a race and that is colonization and things
like that, and that I think is a very genuine
passion thing that I do think kind of like does

(01:31:26):
kind of extend beyond being merely a gimmick of like
rapping in Irish. Oh sure, obviously, some of their tone
and some of the things they wrap about and the
kind of like the playful, kind of like bantust nature
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
You know, well, you know they've sort of get your brits.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Out and yeah, just if I you know, somewhat dismissively
referred to them as amost a novelty hip hop band.
It's not the kind of wrapping in you know, Gaelic
or anything element that like by all means absolutely and
that's important thing to preserve. It's more the again, the
like the banterist tone of it. Yeah, and you're combined
with the kind of the the very lightweight, I suppose

(01:32:02):
nature of their music. Like despite all their politics, they
don't sound particularly angry necessarily, Like it's kind of a
jokey delivery that they go about doing things. I get
that chart chimes with their you know, at times, shall
we say ill advised press stunts and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Yeah, so that's obviously the thing is that they do
push no humor and sort of banter as a big
part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
So like I can assume where that's coming from, but
I think it's we're saying, you know, on stage they
said they are not the story.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
This is like they are escapegoat that they drew attention
to the fact that like they would rather not be
no don't court and in the national pressure because it
is you know, because it is distracting from the actual side.
So like all that aside, this was a fucking brilliant
headline set, like with all that kind of like context
put in place. As someone who is a bit of
a casual NCAP enjoyer, I think just the moment was

(01:32:54):
it was kind of a lightning in a bottle moment
of like the crowd was so up for it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Niaka there as an act. They have come up through
two thousand trees. This is not you know, this wasn't there.
They said, this is their like third time playing it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
They you know, played it for the first time a
couple of years ago, like second on the main stage,
and they've kind of like worked their way up, so
like they they they aren't on sort of like be
giving the upte to build their wy up the stage.
So like nigaps old thing like the first half, first
part of the Sties, you know, was kind of like
jokey vibe hip hop that's like a bit silly, like

(01:33:28):
there wasn't you know, the most attic songs like like,
so it was you know, a bit more of a
chill vibe to start off with that. Their personalities are
immediately they're very charismatic. That's one thing they will immediately
grab you with is they're big personalities. They are you know,
bouncing around that stage, joking and laughing. They've got they
had it. They had they had a screen set up
on their stage wherever is it. DJ Prevail pronounced he's

(01:33:51):
on on top of that, on top of the screen,
and they had you know, crass images sort of like
crude kind of cartoons of like British politics and various
other things kind of like blared up on that along
with you know, actual political messaging and kind of like
free Palestine and kind of like facts about what's going
on in Gaza. So they there's a bit of a
tonal whiplash with kneecap is one of the things I

(01:34:12):
think you kind of have to kind of like, yeah,
embrace is like they will warrant but kind of hear
with like a very kind of frank sort of figure
about what's going guards and then there will be you know,
crewe drawings of Boris Johnson and various conservatives like doing
silly dances on.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Screen, and then just like lots of songs about cat yeah,
and that's.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
Things yeah yeah, and you're you know, they'll get the
chant your sniffer dogs are shite and stuff like that
to songs. And that's the thing is that there are
there are genuinely funny moments in and amongst all. But
it was a set that kind of like built up
and as the sort we've got darker and the lighting
got fucking intense, that's where they were like, right now,

(01:34:49):
you know, open up that pit, fucking go and this
is where the big beats were starting to blare out.
And it did kind of like the intensity of the
set built for a real like fever pitch and crescendo,
which did like really elevate things up where like and
like the sort of first off of kind of like
joking about and having a bit of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
That was cool.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
But when it was you know, you're getting to like
I think it was like fine art and some of
the stuff off the new album sort of the middle
of the set really kind of going hard heard Parer
all like recap, like the sort of closing run where
they were like really in your face, really at it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
It was like really easy.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
It was just so easy to get sort swept up
at the moment and kind of like throw your arms up,
bouncing and down and kind of joining on the sort
of the the chance along moments of the songs that
they have. The politics I think are really genuine to them.
They're just a kind of like a bit of like
I don't I don't say irony, but you know like
there was a kind of like jovial joking nature to
sort of take alongside that. But it was, you know,

(01:35:45):
just a real riotous, virant, vital headline set, which again,
how do you feel about kneecap It was the right
set to headline two thousand trees in this moment?

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
Yeah? Yeah, fair enough? Right next day?

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
So next day kicked off with Kloba who are UK? Yeah?
I again try and guess what club are sound? Like
it was.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Was it Clover in Time?

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
It was Clover in Time? Like just the most obnoxious
band imaginable. You'll enjoy this.

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
Again, they're a UK hardcore band, they're from London, they're
you know, they've got a bit of OI punk in
there as well, like so they're not one of them,
but again very politically charred, very in your face played
up as a character a little bit, I think with them,
just all the insults for like you can think of
you get hardcore, but again with a kind of political
slant where it's coming from a working class background. When

(01:36:36):
their songs is like counselor state of mind or some
of that things like like so from that, but like
so they're talking about you know, gentrification and like the
treatment of working class songs about like police brutality translit.
So for all of the kind of like confrontational like
side of it, there was again a heart of like
genuine kind of like wanting to make a difference. But

(01:36:57):
it was just have a very fun, obnoxious hardcore set
from like a bunch of like angry guys from London.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Good fun.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
After that, I was kind of like waiting a bit,
so I caught a bit of this band Evil, who
were the next band on the this stage, because I
was kind of just waiting around for Oversize to kick
off on the Axiom and it's just but it's like
Evil with one more l.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
They described themselves as brat metal, which I was kind
of like, Okay, I kind of said, this is going
and clearly very young clearly have a vision of what
they want their band to be. But like, I don't know,
it's in that vein of like worgasm and that kind
of like side of things, which is just so not
for me. And it's like you can say sligh and

(01:37:42):
brat and all these things as much you want, but
like and like doing that, but when the metal is
so kind of like really rudimentary and like the riffs
aren't there, that's the thing. Is like the sort of
the pop like bubblegum pink or pop side of things
was like fine that, like she's got a bit of personality,
but it's like metal side.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
I think for these bands there is always where it's
just like it's just not up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
For it, and like they're a very young band everything band,
but it was it was one of the weak things
I saw on the on the on the festival.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Fortunately, next up over on the Accidage was Oversized, who.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Are another of the kind of like nineties shoe gazy
all rock bands with bit of deaf tones.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
I do think they're one of the better ones going
about right now.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
I think their album they released earlier this year is
really good, like again just wonderful guitar tone, like really
like blissful, chilled out vibes. It's not massively original, but
again like I could just escape from the heat for
thirty minutes and just kind of like chill out in
this tent. And again like they have you know that

(01:38:47):
again their clear guides who are into hardcore, So every
now and then they'll sort of shift into a little
bit more kind of like slightly aggressive rift where there'll
be a bit more ergeically, think like that's a hard
gaband playing that. But if you're into that kind of
like shoe gay stuff, Oversize I think are like the
one from the UK right now, who I'm like, keep
an eye on them.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
They're out for this year. Really good stuff and I
very much enjoyed them live. Next up, though, the best
non headliner.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
Set of the festival, well, I suppose none may say
is like top build set at the festival because I
forget the lining, but Ko Nashi Yeah, next on the cave,
like oh my fucking god, and actually live like.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
All the things we love about them on record, They're
there live.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
This is what they said.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
So like the ten wasn't empty one when they started
it was. It was fairly busy to be fair life
and there's you know, enough word of mouse on the
new album. Whe kann Ash started to kind of like
turn some heads. And speaking of turning heads, the way
that this tent just filled and field and fields the
set went on because people going, what the fuck is
going on in there? Like I think can know it,
but I could just see every time I turned around

(01:39:57):
more and more people just flooding into the tent, and
some of them kind of coming in and almost immediately
bouncing out. But like his vocals are just so unlike anything,
and his stage presence like they have a kind of
like they look like a sound like I don't know
what you call those sort of like like sort of
noise box things that like thet bands have now where

(01:40:18):
they will just like middle of the will just.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
Go and start turning a load of knobs.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
Yeah, yeah, noise deck.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
Yeah, they had one of them. He's you know, dancing
around the stage shreaking like a maniac sing when it
have to. The bands sound like like really dexterous when
they need to be, really heavy when they need to be.
It was like fucking I was just laughing so many
times about this setup. It's kind of like this is
mental to watch, but it was so cool again, like

(01:40:45):
they are the sort of the just the shot of
the milk corn needs of a kind of like a
dose of genuine insanity. They started to midway through one
of the songs, just remixing in the cover of I
think it was Poker based on They's just like covering
Lady Garga at one point, like just just seamlessly into
the set, like him singing it and like again when
he says slay, like I actually that I fucking buy
into you know this or something, because again they are

(01:41:07):
very flamboyant alongside just how violent and scathing it is
closing and I hate the sound of car keys, Like
was fucking like mental, like the read the get the
song tits but there the spinning I brushed my teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
Do people know the bits like the oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
Yeah they did that one and you've got people going,
oh my god, just joining it on the way. It
was like not everyone did, but the people who were
in the pit therefore them were ready for those kind
of like properly out there like moments over the song
of the Alum, which has got the fucking great.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Chorus and sometimes at the moment, but that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
The open Worls were like, Yeah, fucking singing that chorus
as well, like they could if they wanted to, They
could write one the catchiest like albums ever, but they're
just too too freaky to like settle on on doing
that as fucking brilliant like im like it can. Actually
they're coming to area, go and see them because they
are just like a one of a kind band, like

(01:42:11):
on record live I was just like laughing my head
off during this set, having the best time, like genuinely
outstanding stuff from them.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
Yeah, I'd like to catch them talk. It does sound
like a riot, it literally is.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
Next up, I suck about on the Case station to
watch Terminal Sleep, which was Australia's redemption again like just
a really hard band again, like I can't think they
paid outbreak but just the most like in your fact,
like they were like the nastier hardcore band. They were
like the like low end, just kind of like bruising,

(01:42:45):
knuckle dragging beat downs like two step rifts. Their vocalist
she again was like barking at the crowd, bulling them
into washing really good stuff. I had a great time
watching them, and that was kind of the end of
the morning, kind of hard stuff. As I went over
to the forest stage next, A cought a bit of

(01:43:05):
a Julia Wolf who seemed to luck out on her
slot on the festival, playing directly before Frank Turner on
the forest stage, meaning she pulled a huge crowd or
people like again playing people help to actually watch her,
but a hell a lot of people there who were
there like getting ready to get into that forest to
watch Frank Turner, which had two thousand trees esually unstandable,

(01:43:27):
nice enough, kind of like a pop music not got
a load to say, But I was more disappointed. I was, like,
you know, she she she got a good slot to
being on the festival to sort of win over a
bunch of new fans potentially by having.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
Like a lot of people there.

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
But that meant it was then time for one of
the like apparently what was meant to be a secret
set on the festival.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
And then just got announced for whatever reason.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
But obviously Frank Turner's presence at two thousand Trees this
year was initially meant to be for something else, which
we'll get onto in a little bit, but he did
end up doing a solo set himself, playing Love and
Song in full, which Frank.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Turner a bit of a tit.

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
We kind of like we kind of we rib on
Frank Turner every now and then, like I I fucking
love his music, but you know, as a podcast we've
like ribbed on him through that, like, but when he's playing,
you know, an album I fucking love, like in that
forest Age, it's something to kind of forget all the
negative things I've gone about Frank turn over like the
recent years, and just kind of go, like.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Ah, I love this album.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
I was I was thinking about again, maybe they've expanded
it since I went, because I know that again like
four bands play there now and stuff. But I was
thinking when this was announced, I was like, Frank Turner
in the forest is going to be rammed, Like what
was it like people spilling out of those woods?

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
So like the first so to just used to like
go up a hill basically, and I think, so yeah, yeah,
it was like I was down and sort of the
main forest bit and it was rammed and it was
going back and like there's when people were trying to
get out after that. It was it was very busy
and like this was a again like one of the

(01:45:02):
like two thousand trees event sets this year. It felt
like of him playing not just him playing in the
forest age, but him playing love Iron Song in four,
which is what I think a lot of people would
consider his best album. I probably put it third, but
it is you know, at the time when Frank Turner
wasn't you know, kind of sneered at he was like
really well liked in the sort of the folk punk

(01:45:22):
sing and was kind of on his way up, and
you know, this is now and it's got some of
his biggest songs that like Long Live the Queen and
Photosynthesis How Not to Be an Idiot or.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
It was it was really good. He did.

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
He basically said when the fantasities, he played them out
of order because it was like when you're structure an
album and sort of live set, there's kind of different things,
so you know, like he positioned some of the biggest
songs towards the end that so it wasn't like all
of the hits at the start and then like the
deeper cuts towards the end, so it was kind of
like paced out nicely. But it was like everyone you
know in that forest just singing every single word to

(01:45:53):
every single one of those songs, like their like songs
that defines their life fifteen years ago, which I mean,
I surew offul lot of people, like two thousand Trees
probably is the case. I had a very good time,
very nice time watching this fall the ribbing. This was
a fantastic set.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
I love that album. Hearing those songs live and that's
what's setting it felt right, it was. It was wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
And then after that I stuck about in the forest
and like, Ladism are a band I fucking adore Sometimes
they again, they can make it a little bit hard
for me to like defend them from some of the
easy jabs they can get when they're playing on.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
The forest age and Jordan's come out dressed as a boy.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Scout essentially, and they're starting their set with a poetry
reading like came actually with a book of poems, and
I was like, ah, this is like I it was cool.
But people who don't like ladders few and kind of
laugh at them. This is just fuel for them to
be like he should.

Speaker 1 (01:46:54):
Read Roger Waters's biography instead.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
Maybe he should.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
But outside of this, this was the first of two
Laddestpeet sets of the weekend, and on the Forest set,
they did decide to you know, play a bit more
of their kind of like low key like interi stuff.
They did play one of my favorite songs, say for
in a Forest in a forest. That was fun, but
they were like, they were very good. The one thing
I realized American sash Canadian bands they fucking love two

(01:47:21):
thousand Trees.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
They are just like soe in on the vibe was
that there is that there is.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
A spiritual energy to this festival, where like the bands
who come here, the people come here, you know, a
shared idea. He was going to go all into that
side of two. I was like, you are deep in there, man,
you are this is so your place.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
Like they're probably just not used a tool to playing
around some trees, like this is fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
But he was so like but he again like he
was gonna like clearly.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Actually like vibing with like playing in this really nice
idyllically or like shed in the middle of a forest.
But it was it was really good. And they again
you know, talked about like some of them are again
like the political ads. Why it's by the music. They
didn't play any of new stuff. They kind of saved
all that for the next day, along with the kind
of the bigger hits. But yeah, of the first of

(01:48:07):
two Latspute sets really good. It was just it was
just like when he's just as a boy scout reading poetry.
I was like, man, people who don't like Ladispute would
be like, what are you what are you trying to
sell to me here?

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
Like would find that very funny.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
Video I saw of this was you know, the rest
of the band just newdling about doing their thing, and
then him in the middle like jerking his leg just
looking like waving his arms around. Yeah, yeah, have you
changed your vibe at all for this thing? I don't
know a bit much.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
Well it was so there were all the more intense moments,
but there was there was a little bit more of
the kind of like the low key vibe stuff in there.
Sure after that I went over to catch a bit
of graphic nature for a band had been kicking him
up for fucking ages play everywhere and I just haven't
seen so I was like, I should probably know, see
what the hell again. They're another band that seems to
have like quite a bit of a sort of a
push in terms of like UK medical bands who support

(01:48:56):
everyone there, you know, very new metal influenced, but they
were they were pretty good what I saw, very busy crowd,
So clearly they're kind of like presence on a lot
of support shows and festivals and like that has kind
of like built them up a solid fan base.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:49:14):
It's just it's it's not all load same music. You know,
it's metalcore with a heavy new metal influence. It's all bounds.
In terms of modern metical bands, I could take you
above a fair few, like decent enough. I don't over
to watch Mcluskey, who are like a band who are
I've never been the biggest Mcluskey fan. I kind of
know of their kind of like reverence for a certain
era of like British rock music. They're kind of, you know,

(01:49:36):
one of the cult bands from the sort of the
early two thousands, brit rock scene that two thousand Trees
is sort of built off the back of, so like
them kind of like coming back to play two thousand
Trees feels like quite sort of fiting one. And it was,
you know, just kind of like forty minutes of raucous
rock and roll, catchy but with that kind of like
noise brit rock work, lots of self deprecating humor, very

(01:49:59):
ragged at time, tis but kind of like very charming,
very funny moment of like before their songs which I
can't come exactly goes, but the chorus is your singer
as a sex pest or sort of a sex criminal
or something like that, they did ask is anyone in
a pop punk band a song like that that? I'm like,
it's quite funny actually, Like the humor was very dry

(01:50:20):
and like like very like very British. I can see
a lot of people, but I I had fun with them,
Like they're kind of like they were like songs where
like the vocalists who's playing guitar was them playing bass
at one point and the other vocals with them playing
guitar and doing lead vocals. They were kind of like
conscious somethings around They played quite a bit of new stuff.
They they're clearly, you know, trying to actually relaunch the

(01:50:41):
band properly of a new album. Crowd were plighted to
the new stuff and then really got going for the
older stuff, but as a kind of like warm up
for what was gonna be the headline, and on that
action stage it felt quite fitting as kind of like pairing,
like but decent. After that, it was over again to
the first of to first off today's Saturday's mainstay headliners

(01:51:03):
Cohen and Cambria, who just straight up were fucking brilliant.
That band are on such a good run at the moment,
like both creatively as a live band, Like it's really
great see a band who's kind of like Heyday was.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
In the sort of the mid naughties and see them play.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
So that's predominantly a new album, like they're The set
list was mostly vaxist free material and guess what, we
didn't review that album. That album's really good and those
songs sound great live, you know. They they played the
song that's kind of like a really like fast paced
like punk song. They did the one that is a
Springsteen song. They did cover Mother by Danzy because you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
I saw looking at the set list and I was like, well,
one thing. I was like, only one song from Good
Apollo was a bit of a surprise, But what's this
Mother cover about it? I was like, was that a
snippet or a full cover?

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
Like, I don't know if that was just like Cloud
wanted to have fun doing because he seemed to have
the time of his life ring Mother, Like he was
fully like living his glen Dad's in fantasy right there, mad, but.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
That's what he's doing it. But he was like so
weird to hear, but it was really fun.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
I was like, tell you, the thing is is you
can imagine those guitar licks and that sort of stuff.
Whereas where he's like I get to fuck around with
his guitar, rock out to them and dance around this stage.
He was having the time of his life in the center.
It was like, that's what I ever get is Cloudy
on stage. He's such a ball of energy, the way
he's like jigging about and dancing around on stage, like

(01:52:31):
shuffling his feet, jumping up and down, waving his big
bushy hair around like when they're playing like shoulders off
the last of the previous album second and he was
through like head banging and going absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Mental with it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
And it's so far life because he had so many
more just kind of like little flourishes to his guitar
licks and all that, like he's having the time of
his life. One thing I did find very charming during
Cony Cambria Sitys, I noticed side stage there was like
an entire crip people air drumming perfectly along to it.
It was King Ashy like, all, of course, what did
we say?

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
What did we say in the review? We were like,
you are one hundred Cohed fans, we know you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
Yeah, And they were all there, says like, drumming along
to Cohed, having the time of their lives. I was like,
it makes me like you even more. But you know,
like so they did quite a lot of news for them.
You know, they did a run to on me.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
It was like favor House Atlantic, everything evil.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
But you know, do the title track of in Keeping
Secrets of Silent Earth, which is, you know, a fucking
amazing nine minute epic with such a hell of a chorus.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
I do a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
I was like, I love that you're fing new stuff.
I'm like, play the suffering Come on like play like
some of these hits, like.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
You should be doing the suffering. It's amazing they didn't
mother but not the suffering.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
But like the VERI I did appreciate that they are
clearly not wanting to be like nostalgia Cohed just playing
the hits and they're playing and again, to be fair,
people singing along to the new stuff like the Liars
Club again off the last album that seems to have
really sort of something itself that was really good. And
you know when they're ending on Welcome Home and Cloudier

(01:54:04):
pulls out his ridiculous double neck guitar and it's this
guy like when it gets the solo and he's put
it behind his head, playing the guitars behind his head, just.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
Show boating all over the place.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
It's like even again in the daylight, like we're like
without the biggest stage show.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
I was like, no, this feels like a headline of performance.

Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
You've kind of like you've got the gravitas that maybe
powers were slightly lacking. So I feel like you are
on at least level pegging to your co headliners who
were to come shortly afterwards.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
So yeah, really really brilliant set from Coed I think
I'm another fan though, and now.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
Fifteen isn't it just isn't enough for them now that
I like, because if you know them being a prog
band and having so many great songs, now there is
my band. I'm like, kind of need you to play
a two hour set now if I want to see everything.
It feels like, but what I got really had an
amazing time watching cohed. After that, it was back over
to watch the action stage headliners and this was you know,

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one of the one of the other kind of like
headline grabbing sets.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
Of two thousand trees this year, which was the reunion
of Million Dead.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
Yes, which for those.

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
Who aren't where it's Frank Turner's original Some people say
hard brand. They're not really a hardcore band. They were
kind of like brit rock band with a harder edge
to them, punk band, you could say. But it's his
you know, original band and that have now reformed.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
This was their official region show.

Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
I think they said they played like a tiny little
warm up show the previous night. Frank I was like,
be glad we did because we were shit and we
needed to sort of figure ot how to play together again.
But yeah, so as you can imagine that Axiom stage
was overflowing for Million Dead, like they demand to see
them was huge, like loads of people cramming into that stage.

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Like there was a buzz around this Million Dead set.
And I will say they were clearly overjoyed to be
playing together. There was a real infectious energy to them.
Frank as a vogue this on this doing these sort
of songs now sort of the weaklink in it his voices,
you know, he's straining to sort of bark out those
songs like he did like in the earlier days.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
But his energy was infectious and he was every bit
the sort of.

Speaker 3 (01:56:14):
The rowdy punk front man that he clearly was during
the Meaning indig He was like hearing Frankton a call
for a wall of death is like a bit of
a novel pin.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
But like it did work with a millionaire there.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
You know, there were a very sort of literate punk
band where you know their songs are about like agricultural revolutions.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
He's interviews and something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
Again that that two thousands quirky brew off and where
all these bands were were a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
Weird, like that's cool and poison ruined do it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
But like, oh I've read a book.

Speaker 3 (01:56:47):
I mean, the thing is he is clearly a very
well read person who knows and like and had a
very very good and expensive education.

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
Well, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
I'm roasted.

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
No, I know Strakes and.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
He can be a bit of an eaven target time.
But the thing is Million Dead were fucking great like that,
That is the important thing. I again, it's only gone
to Frank Turner and then discovered a Million Dead back.
I was like, ah, it's a shame, you know, I
got to Frank Turner on his acoustic stuff and never
got a chance to see you know, he's rowdy, punk roots.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
That would have been really cool to see. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
I'm gonna say, are they actually any good? Because I
feel like I've just always resigned them away it's Frank Turner, But.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
They're really good.

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
They are actually a really good But like again, selim
as a hard comband as a kind of like misselling
it a little bit because I think they are.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
I think that's part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
For me.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
I was like, this isn't as heavy as I've been told.

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
It's They're a punk rock band with a kind of
like a very kind of just shouty vocalist who doesn't
really sing he just shouts in the way that Frank
Turner shouts, like even on his acoustic stuff. But no,
like they have like a like genuinely quite interesting inch
like welf hout songs, a couple of like big rousing moments. Again,
like the band were like genuinely like quite together. It

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seems like they clearly had kind of like dusted off
the cob where from the previous night and kind of
like all just seemed to be having fun playing together.
But yeah, if you're like, I don't know how like
if a new listener now would listen to the kind
of go like this is just a bit like very
of its era. I think it kind of is because again,
like the same way people might listen to something like

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McCaskey has mentioned, or like Hell is for Heroes.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
Or or or how people in fifteen years will listen
to idols.

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
Possibly like maybe, but like it is of that time.
But I had a really good sort of time singing
and it was just for me. It was just kind
of like, oh, yeah, cool, I'm finally seeing Million Dead,
you know, a band I never for i'd get to see.
That's really cool and I'm having a great time watching
them and again I can't say I would say the
biggest crowd on that stage of the entire weekend, like oh,
like the one time, Like I know it's two of

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the three crowds are quite happy to hang back and relax.

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
This is one of the sets. Was like you could
relydo that. You were in that tent in the crowd.
It was spilling out like deal with it. But yeah, no,
very good. Nice, which then you know, took us to
today's the Saturday Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
I wouldn't say Saturday Sunday, but I'm no, no, No
Trees is like the day before, but the Friday headliner,
which was taking back Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
Who are a band? I really like a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
I Also people say they can be being consistent live.
I've never seen them be bad live. The trip we're
taking back Sunday live is you just need to accept
Adam's not gonna sing the version of the song, you know,
like he is.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
He sounds fucking great. He's a really good singer. He
is such a unique presence on stage.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
He's just gonna sing whatever vocal pattern comes into his
head in that moment, and is gon gonna be a
bit like I was like, yeah, I can't know the
song is like, you're doing what you want to do
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
It's just a funny one. We're taking back Sunder live
where he is just doing whatever the fuck he wants
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
Yeah, so this this was a real like you know,
it made it real, made sense as a pairing of like,
you know, obviously very different bands, which is why it
was cool, but both you know, related to the kind
of two thousands emo scene with tickel Us and Cohede.
Good crossover of fans there just to follow them what
you're saying. They're like, I've seen Taking About Sunday once before,
and I remember them being pretty good. I have seen

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footage of Adam live in more recent years, and I've
heard their last album and stuff where I go, I
don't know if you are a good singer. I don't
know if you're actually like is this a bit of
a Burton Seabell live with Fear Factory situation where you're
just shit? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
I mean possibly, Like the times I've seen them, he
he has sounded really good. You've just kind of had
to deal with the fact that, like he's singing the
melody he wants to sing at that moment, he's like
saying he's not out of tune. He's not like like
sounding flat or anything like, he's just he Diva's over
the songs a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
I think is the is the the trick, and they
like being.

Speaker 3 (02:00:43):
Quite weird now again, like they had they had their
own little noise box at the back of the stage
and during some songs he would just run up to
that and just start like kind of messing.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
About, thinking about Sunday need noise.

Speaker 2 (02:00:53):
I don't know, but this is just that that they
they kind of just enjoy being a bit weird now.
Don't do it for every song.

Speaker 3 (02:00:58):
I will say another one their last album, which I
wasn't one like again, I've liked the couple of take
backs on the albums before that.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
The latest one was the first one. I was gonna
be like, ah, this is like it's bad. Is the production?
Like the production is awful?

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
But live I was like, there's something to these songs
where they if they were produced differently and just go,
I don't know, maybe there's a bit more time on them.
Again without the production, they were just they were just better.
They just didn't sounded like there wasn't that horrible vocal
effect on Adam on them things like that. So it
was kind of like the new songs they played live.
I was like, oh, these actually sit in the set.
It's quite nicely actually, but it was, you know, decade
under the influence into what it feels like to be

(02:01:37):
a ghost as an opener, like fucking yeah, that's amazing,
you're so last summer era operator like it is that
it was the the tell all your Friends and Louder
Now songs, which are the kind of like highlights of
the set, and they were the ones that got like
the sets was paid quite nicely, where it's kind of
like a couple of hits, a newer song, not like
a new song, but like a deeper like the real

(02:02:00):
will Love like so like like the title truck of
tidal Wave, which you know that our my song was
really good, but it's not one that's kind of like
injured as much with the biggest taken backs on their fans.

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
I like it because it's a punk album, Like it's
a Ramones.

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
You like you like it because it's against me.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
Yeah, it's Ramones. It's against me.

Speaker 3 (02:02:15):
It's that sort of thing, And I think I think
that was really fun thing too, and it's a shame.
I was kind of hoping they would carry on that
vibe and that was again one of my problems with
the newer album is they kind of a band and
this fun kind of like Ramonesy against me punk thing
they had going.

Speaker 2 (02:02:28):
On, but like they were like pacers. That's good.

Speaker 3 (02:02:31):
They had again a really cool lighting show, which can
I think helped. I think if you'd swapped them and
like coped around, I think taken backs something might have
been suffered from the Paris problem of like their show
was all in the lighting and that sort of thing. Again,
they carry themselves were headlines and I think one thing
I will say, we need to bring back flamboyant front
men twidling their microphone around, dance amount on the stage,

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being a little bit camp, just being a character on
the stage on bord of like one size fits all.
He's doing his like microphone swinging it abound twenty around
and all that stuff. I was like, that makes him
more fun to watch. Bring that level of flamboyancy back
to some of your front men. I really enjoyed taking
on Sunday and then when they got to the closing
run of flick a fade cute about the year Makedamn.
Sure again, if you're into Taking Back Sunday, doesn't really

(02:03:18):
get much better than that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
You know, everyone is singing along.

Speaker 3 (02:03:21):
It was I think as a headliner book, not the
kind of like revolutionary, but very just sort of savvy, safe,
this is going to go down well at two thousand trees.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
And what a shock.

Speaker 3 (02:03:30):
It went down really well at two thousand trees. I
had great fun with it. People I was with, we
all had fun singing along and dancing around for this.
Like job done in terms of like pairing up a
call Naughty's emo kind of like headline a package, I
would say on the night Cohed I would give the
slight edge too for just sort of like being a
little bit more vital sounding and maybe kind of being

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less reliant on the nostalgia.

Speaker 2 (02:03:54):
But I don't think there was a close match between
the two.

Speaker 3 (02:03:56):
I still had a great time watching Taking Back Sunday,
which then us into the final day of two thousand
Trees and starting off again on that This day was
fucking great, to be fair, like, the best stuff on
this day was really spectacular.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
Well, this is a day that I would have come
down for if I've been able to the back half of.

Speaker 3 (02:04:16):
This day is again we're talking about those runs of
festivals that like special for me. The sort of the
final four bands on this down of two thousand Trees
is one of my favorite things I've ever seen at festival.

Speaker 2 (02:04:27):
It was real like arm me sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:04:30):
But we started off with Hidden Mothers, who are a
band we kind of like, I feel like we've mentioned
them in passing.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
There were a UK like I guess post hardcore band.

Speaker 1 (02:04:39):
Yeah, like post hardcourse, Gremo, post metal. Again, they're on
the heavier end of what two thousand Trees like they
could easily I think they are play they're playing Damnation
and pretty sure yeah as well. And their album came
out at like the very end of last year when
we stopped reviewing stuff. But like you know, it's a
decent debut, really promising debut. Yeah, again, very.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
Intuable like that.

Speaker 3 (02:04:59):
So that very emotionally raw and intense kind of post
hardcore post metal sort of thing, and.

Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
They were really good.

Speaker 3 (02:05:06):
It was a very sort of intense way to sort
of start the down the case stage again, but like
they do a really good job of balancing like the
delicate moments with the clean vocalist. Uh, he's got that
kind of like Thrice like doesn't Kenric kind of a
huskiness to his voice where it's not too pretty when
he's singing, so there's still a bit of grit to it.
And then it's Lim's the bassis and sort of hem

(02:05:27):
like got real like powerful growl on him, like really thick.
Like so when they are heavy, they are thick and
like oppressive, but they just balance it with their kind
of like delicate moments and it like like when they
kind of hit those crescendos, like as a way you
could of expect these kind of like post minately bands
to do like yeah, massively borrowing from the score of

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like arm and Rah and those sort of bands. Like,
but I'm either they were really great and again like
probably you know, like new band Debby, they put you into,
you know, build a couple more songs that really stand out,
but as a kind of like eve minutes of just
kind of setting into this like dark.

Speaker 2 (02:06:02):
Shadowy emotional vibe.

Speaker 3 (02:06:05):
Thought they were really great, like again, like really impressed
with them, and I think like they're on the bands,
It's like I can see why in terms of like
upcoming UK bands, A lot of people are kind of
like latter on to them as kind of like once
to be like, yeah, no, pay attention to the mothers.

Speaker 2 (02:06:17):
They're really cool, very good start.

Speaker 3 (02:06:19):
Today followed this up with Last Towns, who are just rowdy,
hardcore punk, very high energy. I would have fucking loved
them ten years ago. They would have been one of
like the bands I would have been all over heavy
Fest Coded so heavyest coded, yeah, ghost Fest that they're
so of that era. But I i'd like, you know, again,
quite hard to dislike because they're very brashing in your face,

(02:06:42):
not massively original, but they they they do enough to
sort of like make an impact. And Jason Butler, because
they'd been torn where they live, Jason Butler did come
out with them for their last song, which is kind
of like nice touch. Oh then it was over, Like
this is the day where I felt bad for on
the main stage because people had had enough, Like the

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mainstage crowds, like by day three of like thirty degree heat,
no shade, the mainstage crowds were dwindling a little bit,
which is a bit of a shame. But if there's
one thing that can make me forget that, it is
free's scorching hot outside and maybe kind of go like, yes,
I want it to be this what on this sunny
It's a bit of scar punk and that was served

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up by a cat Bite, who are a Philadelphia scarpunk band.
They're kind of they're they're a very fest band like
they're they're so part of that ilk of like band.
But scar punk and scar defining toy Am as a person,
and I will never turn my back on Scar. I
was just skanking and dancing and just having a really

(02:07:45):
fun time a cat Bite again like not massively original,
but just bubbly, bripe scar punk.

Speaker 2 (02:07:52):
That was perfect for the thirty degrees.

Speaker 3 (02:07:54):
Yeah this rocks like nothing can ruin this. What a
wonderful half hour to spend. I've missed out band before, Cappy,
I'm very sorry. I did see Bad Sign, Okay, I
just missed them out of my notes. Yeah, bad Time
playing their first show in seven years.

Speaker 1 (02:08:10):
I was about to say, because I before they got
unbelievably massive and it was impossible to not know who
they were. I used to get bad Side and bad Omens.
I was like, which ones which you know? And I
remember Bad Time with the one they broke up and
I never especially cared, but some people were really into them.
Were they back now?

Speaker 3 (02:08:26):
So they're back? This was the right this is their
first year back. I was shouting to Joe their base
and vocals. It was like, you know, we're we're giving
it another guy. We've got some new music on the pipeline.
But when they're kind of like it, because they were
kind of in with that kind of like crop off
UK hardcore bands. Will You Feed the Rhinos and all that,
but they were like, yeah, kind of just a riffy
rock band, Like a riffy a rock band was all

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like very kind of like cleanly sung, melodic vocals.

Speaker 2 (02:08:51):
They just had you know, the kind of like harder
edge to their riffs.

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
I haven't listened to this band in so long, and
I might be completely off the market here, but a
band that into my head when I think about them
as c ky, like strangely kind of you know, sort
of skatery riffs, a bit of punk, you know, but.

Speaker 3 (02:09:08):
The things I think they've almost they got bit that,
but they've almost kind of got a bit of like
hard go like occasional like a bit of like stonyy
sort of stuff, and some of the fire rifts they
kind of have just like they're a band who fucking
like riffs, and like there was just it was just
nice to see them back on stage and they pulled it.

Speaker 2 (02:09:23):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:09:23):
They were on the smallest stage, which was the one
time I went to that over the weekend, the new stage,
but they put.

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
A size car again.

Speaker 3 (02:09:30):
I felt like two Uns was a good place then
to make it come out, because again those are bands
quiet time to that and people were kind of like
just happy to see them back, and it was it
was just really nice and I'm like, yeah, I forgot
how cool, Like I did really like bad Time there.
Their one album was like people who liked it really
fucking liked it. There was only about a hundred people
who really liked it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:47):
It did. It did like.

Speaker 3 (02:09:48):
They they were maybe decided, but they were like a
proper cult band that people liked it like really good.
But they just never kind of like crost Oro anything.
They just kind of like decided to call it quits.
But no good see them back. I'll keep an on
what kind of like leads on to. But I did
see them before cat By, but after that, so I
was gonna I've watched Barra again, or I decided to
go see what was going on in the cave stage

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because there's this band, Lover's Noise, who I'd kind of
seen a bit of buzz around over the week and
seem people say, oh, you know, love that they're they're
really cool if you like you know Loave and Deftones
and the Shoe Gaze sort of stuff, just go check out.

Speaker 2 (02:10:22):
That was nice.

Speaker 3 (02:10:22):
I was like, Okay, then I feel no competis but
low Ro inspiring a new generation of bands who can't
play a show when their laptop breaks. Like I felt
bad because, like the vocalist, when it was going, they
were pretty good, but they played three songs in twenty
minutes because their laptop kept breaking and they just couldn't

(02:10:43):
like do anything about any of the samples and stuff
on the laptop apparently, And I was kind of.

Speaker 1 (02:10:47):
Like, this is why we need Profanatica selling their come right.
It's it's the counterbalance in the world.

Speaker 3 (02:10:52):
Well, I don't wan to rag on them too much,
so I'm like it turnal would define suck, but I like,
I quite enjoyed what I was seeing when they're on.

Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
But I was like, this is a learning moment.

Speaker 3 (02:11:01):
Figure out a way to play your set about laptop, Like, figure,
there must be a way you can do some of
these songs like that you can get something to salvag
from it from your lap. Again, it's thirty degrees out.
This laptop was overheating and they've got nothing to call
it down in this tent. This this ain't working with
for you. And like eventually they like, will play our
last about samples. We think we can do this and that,
and they did. It was like you can probably fix

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them out, like take this as a learning opportunity to
sort of find a way to play without relying on that.
And again maybe again I don't know, they didn't play
half their set, Like maybe these songs are super reliant
on the sort of electron side of it, so maybe
get someone in who can like, actually, you know, do
a lot of songs and not just have it as
a laptop on the side of the stage and you're
gonna hit play on the samples when you need to
on the tracks and all that. But it just a

(02:11:45):
bit of a disaster for them. Did feel kind of bad,
but it just I was like, figure something out there.
They were a young band that they clearly can't find
their feet, but for the the amount of like people
says like, yeah, you know, you gotta check out Lover's noise.
I was like, okay, I will say, fortunately, what's the
perfect anstop to a band who can't play their sets
because their laptop breaks?

Speaker 2 (02:12:06):
Employed to Serve.

Speaker 1 (02:12:08):
Absolutely it is. Yeah, I should say I saw Employed
Serve this week as well, because they did a couple
of shows two and Tries weekend and they played in Liverpool,
so I have also quite fresh off of irsying. I
saw a couple of bands play with them, Cage Fight
who are playing Bloodstock as well and Rosemarie, who are
like a Liverpool kind of metal core band. But I
saw Employed Serve this week as well, and we probably

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saw basically the same set. It's the same set they've
roughly been doing for a couple of years now, but
obviously with the new songs there as well, I'm sure
it rocked.

Speaker 3 (02:12:37):
Last time I saw them, obviously was the last album
in full and then yeah yeah, and then so I
haven't actually seen you know, the eternal forward motion stuff
for a good while.

Speaker 2 (02:12:48):
Right like this is for s fed. I was like, ah,
fuck it, this song's a banger. I will say that
this is what I thought. Again, I felt quite bad.

Speaker 3 (02:12:55):
For them because they had to work to get the
crowd going because again, everyone just exhausted.

Speaker 2 (02:13:00):
It was a bit of a sparse crowd to start with.

Speaker 3 (02:13:03):
It did pick up because again it's employed to serve.
Justine and Sammy aren't gonna not let the crowd stand
still like they will they will if they had to
jump in that crowd and start like dragging people around
in the circle, I'm pretty sure they would have. But
what come, I said, I employed to serve that we've
you know, not said time and time again they are well.

Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
I mean, I will say one of, if not maybe
my favorite time, certainly one of my favorite times I've
ever seen employed to serve was at two thousand Trees
when they played in either the Cave or the Axiom,
and it was right after the Water for the Dying
Sun come out of as that summer and the fact
that you know, I mean obviously that was amazing. Most
of the songs, if not all of the songs in
the set would be completely different now, and yeah, part

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of me does miss those songs. But going from you know,
middle of the day in one of the tent stages
too now firm. Yeah, of course I can be on
the main stage band in a you know, a few
years of growth. That's I think if I'd been there
and I'd remembered my old you know, two thousand trees
experience with them would be quite cool to see.

Speaker 2 (02:14:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:14:00):
I think it was just a case of like a
lot of people were just cramming into whatever temp was
on at that time because they were just desperate to
get into the shade.

Speaker 2 (02:14:08):
But the people the credit was there.

Speaker 3 (02:14:10):
Weren't fucking mental for them. Didn't stop running in circle,
didn't stop washing, didn't stop jumping. New stuff sound really
good live like Atonement feels like the song they need
to kind of like really like on set, get that
bigger move you like that chorus going Mark of the Grave.
When that riff hits, I can't imagine not just like

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kind of being like heavy metal fucking rules like throwing
the horns. Title track of Returning Forward Motion sounded fucking great.
I was and I was like, oh, it's really cool
to hear that live again. They were just brilliant. They
were just you know, at it.

Speaker 2 (02:14:44):
The new stuff. What's the Jesse leachs on off the
new album called they played that.

Speaker 1 (02:14:48):
I always forget the name of that one, but it's
one of the best ones. And I was gonna say
I saw them do this a mistiff as well recently.
It's it'd be great because I know they're playing with
kill such engage later this year. It'd be great if
they could like do the moment. But Sammy does the
Jesse chorus really really well.

Speaker 3 (02:15:01):
He like him as a vocalist, Like I will say,
I could. I think in this seat, Samuel was wearing
leather trousers and I was like, you maybia, it always
does first degree Sammy start wearing lever trousers, you insane
person like commitment to the cause, like fair fucking play.

Speaker 2 (02:15:19):
But I was just I was like, god, he's like
how he's spiring in them like fair fox. But yeah,
they were.

Speaker 3 (02:15:26):
They were fucking brilliant, Like do you know what I mean?
I like, I could you know, listen all the way
he's employed silver brilliant. Everyone who's listening to this knows
employed silver brilliant. It was just a really fun half
like give half an hour festival and you're not gonna
hear a single bad song. And again, those new songs
off The Falling star that aam's grown and grown and
grown on me actually with each or listen, and they
sounded great live, so that was wicked. From there, it

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was over to the Axiom stage to watch Anxious, who
are a band we've mentioned for Bloodstock, the Blood, Outbreak,
the Fat definitely not Blood, so they were not there.

Speaker 2 (02:16:03):
They played Outbreak the first time I went, and they.

Speaker 3 (02:16:06):
Were kind of like emo hardcore pop punk, kind of
like sort of flitting all that a bit like you know,
one step closer that they're kind of in that sort
of vein of like flitting around between all those sort
of lanes.

Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
So you guess you'd probably cat it post hardcore, but
it isn't really there.

Speaker 3 (02:16:20):
Out out of the commercial we didn't review, but one
of my favorites of this year Bambie I'm Anxious to
really sort of set themselves out as one of the
sort of the crowd of like current wave of emo
bands I think are fucking brilliant.

Speaker 2 (02:16:30):
They're they're really like fiery live, maybe a little.

Speaker 3 (02:16:35):
Bit too fired up for this crowd at points in
their set where they were kind of like again for
an emo band who have kind of like hardcore or tendencies,
they were really dialing up the hardcore for this set.
They've just got you know, really emotionally charged sort of
like catchy pop punk tinged like Hocktage emo songs that
sound great live, have a really fiery, passionate performance, and

(02:16:57):
I'm really.

Speaker 2 (02:16:57):
Into action at the moment.

Speaker 3 (02:16:58):
I think, like, I feel like they're on touring basement
later this year, So if you're going to that, get
down head to the Anxious, and I think, like all
this copper bands, they're one of the ones, I feel
like I'm really on a good trajectory. Their Deby album
was really good, their second album is even better, and
they're really great live, So I think like, definitely, if
you haven't yet, and if you're into what's.

Speaker 2 (02:17:18):
Going on in the worlds of email and stuff like that,
get on on board of Anxious. Next up was one
of those ones where okay, like I remember just sort
of seeing this they pop up on the line. I
was like, hey, when did they get back together? Which
was Sparta Are All.

Speaker 1 (02:17:33):
Yeah, it's one of those. It's the other band that
came out of about the Drive in that isn't Yeah.
I think I remember them being added to this lineup
and it being a reunion thing, so I knew they
were there, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
Like I just remember seeing that I didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:17:45):
I missed the announcement and as we look at the postms,
I was like, any a minute, when did Sparta get
back together? When they get into two thousand Trees, I'm
gonna have to go watch Sparta, I Will said. This
was one of my more I'm just gonna have to
chill at the back. I'm knackered, I'm dying from the heat. Yeah,
but it was like really cool to you know, see
Sparka play just a bunch of really great emo songs
in the sun Like they were kind of just like

(02:18:05):
very very understated performance, you know, just the three dudes.

Speaker 1 (02:18:08):
On stage didn't kick anyone down any wells.

Speaker 2 (02:18:11):
No, no, nothing like that.

Speaker 3 (02:18:13):
Like like they are, they're very like kind of just melodic,
like bright sounding emo band from the sort of the noughties.
I had a very nice time watching them, but it
was just kind of like a now as my assigned
after Spart finishing, this is my assigned and relax because
the final four bands I saw today were fucking outrageous,

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starting with Birds in Row Over on the Cave stage,
who I don't know, are you into birds and.

Speaker 1 (02:18:41):
Very much or I'm not really a fan. I've seen
them live, like I've been to one of those shows.
I saw them playing in the black Heart a couple
of years ago because they played in London the night
after we saw that big a Naanathraken side show, and
like we just kind of went along as the gang.
I'm not like, I've not ever really gotten that massive
into their music, but I respect what they do and
what they're about.

Speaker 3 (02:19:00):
Sure, yeah, again, then i'd probably call I would probably
call post hardcore again, like yeah, leading into scream. Oh,
They're they're on the more left field end of what
two thousand Trees is, so I would like if I
was at Trees, they would definitely be like, I'm curious
to go, and because they are there. They're a band
who are more in my circles actually than usually.

Speaker 2 (02:19:19):
They're because they're currently on tour.

Speaker 3 (02:19:21):
They were currently on tour with Alexis on Fire as
part of so eventually they kind of trees through that package.

Speaker 2 (02:19:26):
There will band again.

Speaker 3 (02:19:27):
I could see them playing Damnation as well there and
then on the kind of like artsy screamer side of things.
But yeah, like spiky intense like artsy, but like kind
of like rabid post hardcore or scream oh a bit
of like a post punk element at times when it
gets a bit more kind of like stark and kind
of like not much of but like kind of gets

(02:19:49):
that like regimented kind of feeling to it, So kind
of like there's a push and pull between that and
then the moment where they kind of just go like
rah and sort of frantically.

Speaker 2 (02:19:57):
Like attack the prep board and scream.

Speaker 3 (02:19:59):
But yeah, I'd not seen Birds in Row yet, so
I was like really excited see them, and I thought
they were fucking brilliant, like really again, just kind of
like intense, like passionate energy, Like there's a kind of
like they're freeqenc like all kind of like on the
opposite end of the stage, just kind of like staring
in at each other. They do these of like quite
long form in songs at points where they were kind
of like weave in and out of like melodic kind

(02:20:21):
of like inch capassages into like just full on blast
of like really harsh like white hot noise consu that
again this like run off like well, imcause like the
sort of post hardcore end of day they were a
great way to kick that gun. Like I again, I
like as a rod, but I was like really fucking
impressed with them live. I thought they really stepped up
and felt like a good way to begin this sort

(02:20:42):
of run of things, which ed into with no breaks.
Literally they finished and I had to sprint across, like really,
it's like a minute away, but I was like legging
it out of that tent into the Action tent across
to watch La Dispute again, who were playing their seconds
at the festival.

Speaker 2 (02:20:57):
On the Action stage.

Speaker 3 (02:21:00):
Much bigger crowd, big crowd for them this time, and
this was the kind of the set where they played
more of the kind of like crowd favorite.

Speaker 2 (02:21:09):
Stuff, the more records and stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:21:10):
Didn't play such more hands fortunately again I love a
lot of speed. You can bin off that song. I
don't get why that's their biggest song, like people need
to grow up, But they did play you know, they
close with King Park, which is fucking outstanding. That song,
that final crescendo, it still gets me. It's still aways
one of those like when they build that it's probably
hairs on end moment and I think, like, let to

(02:21:31):
speak for me, I think they're about that like people
do right off as the such more Handsking Park like
or can I still get too having about kill Myself band.
I'm like, there is so much more substance to lad
dispute in the kind of like musicality of.

Speaker 2 (02:21:42):
The lyricism, like if you actually dig into them.

Speaker 3 (02:21:44):
And again, I know, like for you, we were on
just different ends of this, like and I get that,
but like this is more people who like you know,
post Ard and and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (02:21:54):
I mean, for the record, whenever you talk about seeing
Larder Steat live right, I respect what Largest Beat are about. No,
I know, I think they're rubbish and they are hateful
to my ears, but I do like I respect them
as a band and like being again like birds Row
on the more like you know, left field kind of
artistically elaborate end of what a t husantries might book.

(02:22:16):
I mean, I would probably end up going to see
them just out of you know that that kind of
but this was aimed at you.

Speaker 3 (02:22:20):
This was like this the general vibe people are people
like they just go for King Park Weaver and I'm
just like, no, there's there is so much depth to
this band and so much artistic intricacy and again, as
I said, when they're reading poetry on the forest age,
I get it, you know, when they're locked in like
this and they are playing these really like intricate, like twisting,

(02:22:42):
contorting sort of songs that go off in all different
directions that can be really heavy at times, can be
like really delicate, weird, like it's great they did, like say,
in the middle of this set. They did so obviously
they've got a new album coming out that they're kind
of like weirdly releasing as like three song suits at
the moment, as like EPs that are like flowing in,
and they did the first one of them they released

(02:23:03):
as a sort of run of songs in the middle
of the set where they just didn't stop. They just
did those three songs and it was really coolz. It
was like, because these songs actually do sound different in
the Ladders week set. They are a bit like rougher
around the edges. It's it's a bit less kind of
like weirdly at times. But that was a really cool
sort of thing in the middle of set before they
then locked back into some of the real sort of
crowd playsing moments building up to King Park. But again

(02:23:25):
as part of this one of bands. It was they
felt really at home again falling off from Birds in
Row and it was like again as one he loves
that band. It was just like, ah, I'm having this
like a main time watching this band be really fucking
brilliant ending it on that King Park crescendo, and when
they did that, I was like, great, I'm like mostly
spent from the NAT Oh fuck, what's next when like
literally like a couple of minutes, I've got to sprint

(02:23:47):
over to the main stage because the reason the I'm
out two thousand Trees is happening, which again, like I
always kind of settled on going to two thousand Trees
before this announcement happened, and then let Live got announced
and I was like, well, I can't be anywhere else,
like and merely then I'm going to kind of combine
because obviously the Dutch two thousand Trees. I then saw

(02:24:08):
them play there what maybe their final UK headline show ever.

Speaker 2 (02:24:12):
I've obviously spoken before about like let Live being one
of my bands.

Speaker 3 (02:24:16):
They were like in the twenty tens, pivotal and shifting
where my music taste was was that and kind of
like they made such an impact on me where it
was like, they're a band I looked to us more
than just the music there was such they just were
one of those bands that I think were just like
the best band of their of their era. Like I

(02:24:36):
will say that, and I know a lot of people
agree with me, and so we might just scree me,
but I will put my plang out and say, I
think Let's Live between twenty eleven and twenty sixteen were
the best band in the world. To me, there was
just no competition, and you know, when they split up,
I was gutted. But one of the things that made
it sting more was the fact that, like, oh, the
last let Live show I'm probably ever going to see

(02:24:57):
is them supporting Pierce Devel at Brixton, which, like they
were fucking brilliant that night. But that's not the That's
not the way any band should go out. That should
not be the last time you see one of your
favorite bands, one of the best bands in the world.
So obviously they announced, you know, let Live something is happening.
We are doing the farewell tour we never got to do.

Speaker 2 (02:25:19):
Obviously.

Speaker 3 (02:25:19):
I know, some good will for some people towards Jason
Butler has dwindled a little bit because of Fever Free,
Free Free, I've still kind of like held strong just
about enough.

Speaker 2 (02:25:28):
But for me, this let Live view know, I had
no worries, So I was like, this isn't Fever three,
Free Free, this is let Live.

Speaker 3 (02:25:35):
There is no fucking way Jason is getting let Live
back together if this isn't going to be the real
fucking deal. And I know, technically not the lineup that
like people might say, but you know, when you've got Jason,
the two original guitarists, I mean, that's enough of the
kind of be like that, That's that's enough of the
let Live lineup to sort of justify still calling this
a proper LETLFVET tour and then filling out the gaps

(02:25:57):
with Sky of Issues. Who you want about Issues, He
is a fucking brilliant Bassis and he was the like
is he was the basic Issues and like a pool
will tell you, he was the most talented membor Issues,
probably because he was because he's a fucking great Bassis,
Like he was where all the funk or the soul
came in that band. When you think about Bassis who
can sort of fit into let Live, who can sort

(02:26:18):
of have a background in kind of heavy music and
soul and funk and jazz and all those sort of
things that Let Live kind of drew from. He makes
perfect sense, and I coin where the drummer came from,
but he just was a fucking good drummer as well.
I can say there, you've got the lineup. I remember
quite infamously when you said about let Live for Lettle
I was like, yeah, cool, I'm waiting to I so
it's real to me. And then there was this moment

(02:26:40):
where I got I got there and I'd kind of
like been in the cup and not gone right forward
for this festival. I went to the barrier for let Live.
I was like, I'm treating this as like the last
dance basically with those second to last answer had that
London show. But this was the most excited bit about
seeing a band in such a long time, Like there

(02:27:01):
were like genuinely like goosebumps and like emotions building up
inside me of like I'm about to fucking see Let
Live again and again like sure I was gonna cry
because again Let Live have made me cryh so many times.
They're a band who cut into such sort of an
emotional sort of place for me where like their music,
their message, and all that did mean such me that
Mother as a song means more than just like again

(02:27:24):
the song.

Speaker 2 (02:27:24):
To me, it means everything. And that song has made
me crist so many times.

Speaker 3 (02:27:27):
So I was like, let's go play it and that
will make me cry and we'll get on to why
I didn't cry during that song in particular. But when
let Live open their set by doing the prologue into
six six six eight billion into Renegade eighty six the
way Fake History begins, I went fucking feral.

Speaker 2 (02:27:42):
I was throwing myself around that.

Speaker 3 (02:27:44):
Pit, screaming every word again because it had been boned
raw weekend. Within seconds, the dust cloud had written up
and I was kind of like caked and dirt and
I could feel it going down. My fathers was like,
I'm gonna be coughing up dirt after this let Live
set didn't give two shits, and it felt like I
was watching it felt like I was watching let Live again.
This didn't feel like let Live karaoke with the guy

(02:28:06):
from Fever Free Free Free, like trying to be like,
oh look at me, I'm back in my like Coller
band that like were like did never get their jews
he was going fucking mental from the.

Speaker 2 (02:28:15):
Start, and the way it built was like insane.

Speaker 3 (02:28:19):
The thing with Letlift shows is like nothing ever goes
to plan, like because they were a band known for
their live shows and the wacky antics Jason would got
up to. But again it was kind of like it
was it was always spontaneous with let Live. It was
kind of like something's happened, Jason's going to react to
it and be off somewhere else in in the split second,
and you're just gonna have to be like, yeah, all
that's happening, Like Jason's climbing something, Jason's like in the crowd,

(02:28:42):
Jason's pulling like someone, Jason's throwing final security, doing whatever.
Like like he was just like one of those fumping
and and and that was what you got with the
let Live show. It was fucking amazing, like like Banshee
Ghost Fame, like like all the songs like very kind
of even split between fakesh the black and Beautiful. Those
songs just like immediately hit me and come in and

(02:29:03):
go like, oh, this is the best thing ever. When
it then came time to Marvel, which they played quiet
in the set, I was quite surprised halfway through that song,
So Big Contrixts two thousand Trees is sponsored by Marshall Amps.

Speaker 1 (02:29:15):
I saw the video of this, I wondered if this
is what you were?

Speaker 3 (02:29:18):
So this is what like I feel this this needs
explaining because it was one of these moments of kind
of like the fuck is going on? And they had
like one of their boots up and the part of
thing they had as a guy just as a Marshal
like mascot costume as was part of their marketing at
the festival, and whoever did it because it was on
their time off and decided, I'm going to crowd in
the martial light or Marshall like go crowds who can

(02:29:39):
get a video of the marsh lamp crowdsurfing or whatever.
And they did that and then Jason Butler saw that
was like, no, come here, and literally grabbed them and
physically dragged this.

Speaker 2 (02:29:49):
Poor person in the Marshal mascot.

Speaker 3 (02:29:51):
And again this they couldn't bend their arms, they could
barely bend their legs, and they had to climb up
on stage and Jason was dragging them and just lifting
them and I was like, oh, this poor cossib And
it was like completely derailing what is their most when
their most emotional songs, and I was kind of like
the tears, I feel this is coming, and then I.

Speaker 2 (02:30:08):
Just couldn't stop laughing.

Speaker 3 (02:30:09):
I was like, thank you Jason for saving me a
kind of like very embarrassing moment of crying my eyes
out to a let live show. And then they eventually
got the amp onstage. Was like, right, you're our ramp now,
and they like found like a chord to like putting
them costumes, the guitar. The dues, well, stay there, you're
an amp, and they played the rest of the song,
including the big emotional do't your crime, Mother will be Okay?

(02:30:29):
But which again we should be a bit where I'm
in floods of tears and I couldn't stop laughing, and
I was like, this is the letlist I wanted again,
this is complete, like anything can fucking happen spontaneity, and
I on the top of all office.

Speaker 4 (02:30:40):
Then like right at the end of it, Jason grabs
the guitar and went to like behind it and we're
just swing at this app and I was like, this,
poor am has just had their whole like like like
it was so funny, like it was a real kind
of like cool moment in the set, and not to
be outdone, obviously, they carry on the set as they
do it, and then when they get to their final song,
twenty seven Club, which is fucking you know, one of

(02:31:02):
the most like rowdy, like at it song as a gain.

Speaker 3 (02:31:06):
By the end of that, Jason has stripped down into
his underwear and then decides it's climbing time. And the
thing is I spent the entire built like it was
at the main stage. There were these like two towers.

Speaker 2 (02:31:16):
I was like, it's probably gonna like climber halfway up
one of them or something like that.

Speaker 3 (02:31:19):
Nah, he is climbing up the inside of the stage
all the way up onto the lining rig at the top.

Speaker 2 (02:31:26):
This is, you know, again the complete chaos of a
let Live show. And when they're up there, sound is
cut off, like.

Speaker 3 (02:31:34):
The fest were like, yep, no, we can't, we kind
of can't low this continue. The band still played and
I was down the front where I could actually still
hear what was going on and hear the breakdown to
twenty seven Club, which I was like, yeah, like if
you're not on with let Live, or if you're kind
of like why did this Let Lift Union wasn't gonna
be the proper let Live union.

Speaker 2 (02:31:51):
Jason is currently.

Speaker 3 (02:31:52):
Hanging off the top of a festival stage whilst the
band are playing about their sound. Basially, when he did
climb down for the very last part of the song,
sound magically comes back on.

Speaker 2 (02:32:00):
So I think, like I think Trees knew what was
gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (02:32:03):
They just had to kind of like feel like we
have kind of like put some kind of like we
don't approve of this, we don't endorse like this.

Speaker 2 (02:32:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:32:09):
I don't know who made the decision, but it was
just funny how that when he was up there, sounds
cut off. The when he was back on the ground, oh,
sounds back on for the last part. He's then like
almost like crucifying himself on a mic stand. It was
fucking insane. And then just to saw the airflog to this.
I then saw them the following that at the Electric Boring,
which I will just mention because there was, you know,
a couple of set list changes like they added in

(02:32:30):
Casino Columbus, which is the song that made me bore
love Let Live A CrowdSurf for that because I was
going fucking mental pheromone cult. They did empty obviously of things,
and for that one they rather than climbing Jason Klub
being told off enough over these last few days, he
did like I saw a drum cellcle thing with the
fans in the crowd. So I was kind of like, thin,
can me, you know, be a bit nicer, but over
these and this is the letter show. I did cry

(02:32:50):
my eyes out when they played day fifty four. I
was like, yep, cool, this is it. This is the
final time I'm probably gonna see let Live. I'm not
deluding myself like a lot of people are and sort
of saying like, oh no, these Letloft shows have gone
so well, he's gonna, you know, break up fever three
three and come.

Speaker 2 (02:33:03):
Back to level.

Speaker 3 (02:33:03):
I was like, I don't think that's the case. I
think they laid out their store from the very beginning
with these Letlift shows.

Speaker 2 (02:33:08):
This is it.

Speaker 3 (02:33:09):
This is the farewell tour that never got to happen,
and I am fine with that. I got to see
let Live these final times, see them on show that
a worthy of that band's legacy as a send off,
see them at the shows. What I could get the show,
I wanted to see. I could again cry one last
time for these Letos songs, I could mosh one last
time to them, and it just it did mean like

(02:33:30):
fucking everything to me. Like if this doesn't, like clearly
did I didn't like the best of him this year,
then I've seen something fucking mind blowing still to come.
Because as someone who just holds his band so dearly,
this was the sort of the perfect way to say
goodbye to them, and.

Speaker 2 (02:33:46):
I'm trying it as a goodbye.

Speaker 3 (02:33:47):
Maybe one day, you know, they'll come back again, but
if they don't, I now have had the perfect ending
to let Live and that was more than everything. And
again I thank you to truth like James Brook of
f two thousand tre and let them just making these
shows happen.

Speaker 2 (02:34:02):
I'm glad I got it one last time and like, yeah,
it was spectacular.

Speaker 1 (02:34:06):
I've got one question about Let Live, and it's the
almost everything that you've just said. And I'm looking at
the setler for trees here there's one song from If
I'm the Devil, Good Morning America, And you have described
lots of fake history and black beautiful and stuff. Do
you feel like now that they've come back and they
have very much leaned on, you know, the earlier two
of those three records that they were primarily you know,

(02:34:28):
kind of made their name on. Do you feel like
if I'm the Devil has almost become like the I
don't know, forgotten one of the three, or how would
you feel about there only being one song showing up?

Speaker 3 (02:34:37):
So they did play another song if I'm the Devil
in London, they played the opening track I Learned to
Love Myself as the sort of starts there encore. I
was still like, I think, like a week ago should
have been in that setlist. I think that song is
fucking brilliant and stuff like who You Are Not I
Love If I'm the Devil, I would probably say is
the weakest of the free Now, you know, ten years,
like nearly ten years on from it, it was still

(02:34:59):
one of my frien abums time, but I would probably
say it isn't as good as the two that precede it,
I can see. And again maybe because it's the album,
well it's you know, it's the album that's out. When
a band sort of falls apart, they might look back
on it slightly differently as a kind of like a
bit of a sour spot.

Speaker 2 (02:35:15):
I don't know it wasn't, you know, completely ignored. I
think good Morning America has to be in the set list.

Speaker 3 (02:35:21):
That song is fucking amazing, Like I would have been
so annoyed if they hadn't played at least that I
would like to say more. But I can see why
they did lean more on the two albums that were
kind of like nothing but golden years for the band,
Like like when you look at the sort of the
ascent of Again, people winged about the production of the
backs of Beutiful, they still played, you know, electro borm
headlining it for the first time on sort of like

(02:35:42):
one of the let Live shows that it's talked about.
It is kind of like one of their real legendary
moments the Download set when he came out on crutches
and then still by the end of the set with
his big boot on his foot, was climbing the stage rigging.

Speaker 2 (02:35:53):
Again like that.

Speaker 3 (02:35:54):
They're like those like albums two and three because the
debut is the one lost The time kids been back
to people are the kind of like the golden ear
of like let Live being the greatest band around. So
I get why they probably len more on that and
figured fans should probably want to lean more on that.

Speaker 1 (02:36:09):
Yeah, okay, and then I'm getting that This just then
led into the final main stage headline of the weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:36:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:36:15):
So, the one band, one of the few bands I
could probably watch play after let Live and not feel disappointed,
is again one of the greatest post hardcore bands ever,
maybe the only yeah post hardcore band ever.

Speaker 1 (02:36:29):
This is of all the things where I was like
I wish I was at two thousand trees. I mean,
it's obviously it's because we did our band special on
the Patreon where we went over every single Alex Fire
record and bit of their career in history. It was
a special or I came out of it kind of
arguing the case that they might be at least my
personal favorite post hardcore band ever, and I want to

(02:36:49):
see him off. I mean, I haven't seen them, you know,
at all, but like didn't manage to make this never
seen them, No, I mean I wasn't even into them
when they were around the first time out, and there's
only been the you know, but like I wanted to
see this. This is I know, obviously Yeah, let Live
is the big one for you, but for me, looking
at this set, the thing that I go oh, I
wish I was there for that is looking at this
Election Fire set list and thinking about how much fucking

(02:37:12):
you know, enjoyment we had talking about every one of
their records and this looks fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:37:17):
I mean, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (02:37:18):
I will say, Alextion on Fire, since this of the
second go at their comeback in twenty eighteen, I think
we need to actually really like consider the chenal of bands.

Speaker 2 (02:37:29):
We put Alexa on Fire.

Speaker 1 (02:37:30):
In their scene. They are one of the absolute, very
greatest of all time.

Speaker 3 (02:37:34):
But I mean, I think even I might be a
bulking pump with might disagreeiny, but in I think they
should be like put on the bands like. I don't know,
maybe maybe Deafin sends a be nice, but they should
be seen as like one of those like.

Speaker 1 (02:37:46):
I don't think that's another question comparison at all cool.

Speaker 2 (02:37:49):
I'm fine.

Speaker 3 (02:37:50):
I thought people might cruise fighting for that one, but
I think elex on Fires should be put in that
echelal bands of like just one of the very greatest
alternative heavy bands of their like of the whole.

Speaker 2 (02:38:01):
Sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (02:38:01):
I will say, first things fire, going back to my
thing about American bands, the fun bands of loving thousand
trees coh eedn't taking back Sunday. Both had to make
jokes about the number of trees there were, like it
was a running bit. But alex if I had to
outdo them by starting their set with accidents, which again,
ever say it's some accident. You know it's gonna be
the fucking best set you're gonna see all the weekend potentially,

(02:38:22):
And George is barking out when this set is over,
I went there to be significantly less trees, like I
was like, yes, the forestation like, but oh my fucking god,
I alex on Fire are just one of the just
the greatest bands.

Speaker 2 (02:38:39):
They are so fucking good.

Speaker 3 (02:38:42):
They have like again Punches twenty eighteen, and they they've
never not been anything less.

Speaker 2 (02:38:46):
Than a ten out of ten accidents into boiled Frogs.

Speaker 3 (02:38:49):
As you're opening one two during board Frogs, George sees
someone crowdserving on in a flable chair, goes into the crowd,
takes the chair of the SUTs crowd serving himself, loses,
gets back on stages like some lucky fans that is
going to walk home for this festival of my inn ears.
But here's the thing we don't fucking need them. We
are like we can plug and we play. We haven't
needed it ever, we don't need tracks, we don't need

(02:39:10):
this shit. Let's fucking go.

Speaker 2 (02:39:12):
I was like, this is what a real band is, Glad,
this is fucking the real fucking deal.

Speaker 3 (02:39:17):
Another thing I'm gonna say with Alextion Fire, I think
I said this last few time I seen them. I'm
so happy to see how much otherness has stuck about
son Sila every time that comes out that is so
canonized as like an Alextion on Fire classic at this point,
like they're playing it like further and the set, but
the sing along like again coming on the back of

(02:39:37):
boards Frogs, which you know, one of the big tracks
of Crisis and son Sole might get as good a
reaction as the kind of like the melancholy sort of
slow song.

Speaker 2 (02:39:46):
In the bit.

Speaker 3 (02:39:47):
But when it gets that the esmund d for days
Su and the crowd just arms up in the air,
singing that part out like it's like been a song
that's been a part of election. Fire's carry beginning is
like really good sing again like and you know, sweet
drums of Otherness and like Blue Spade also in the set,
like and feel like really cool parts of the Election

(02:40:07):
Fire catalog ram like I'm so gad that like their
modern ear Election Fire album, which is kind of like
redefine the sound of the band a little bit hasn't
just kind of been brushed aside for the the diehards,
And I think that speaks to the Election Fire fan
base where they aren't, you know, entirely just hinging off nostalgia.

Speaker 2 (02:40:22):
They are into what the band are about.

Speaker 3 (02:40:25):
But yeah, this setus, Like I will say, there were
some songs on this set list I've not seen a
Election on Fire play before, which I was like, that's
fucking cool, born and raised.

Speaker 2 (02:40:33):
Fuck yeah, let's fucking go like born, and I know
that was what I was to say.

Speaker 3 (02:40:37):
I was like, like, shuts off right now, like yeah,
having such a good time, like it was fear that may,
it was feeling myself that made me odd, Like that
was a really cool and sort of see like genuinely
really great stuff. Blue Spade, like the sort of the
slowest stuff they do is such a like interesting part
of the set I love. The other thing I love
of Election Fire is when I look at them and

(02:40:58):
just kind of go like you are characters aren't you.
You all look like you should be in different bands.
Your stage present way you're taking none of it is
chroograph her. You are just vibing off the moment. You've
got salty Sea Dog Dallas over in the corner. You've
got fucking.

Speaker 2 (02:41:14):
Cowboy Chris like like looking at you. Got Wade in
his chain now weighed in his.

Speaker 1 (02:41:20):
Chain mail, and I would like to add a Celtic
frost shirt. Yeah, those hard as fuck.

Speaker 3 (02:41:26):
What a fucking guy. Way does he declared? He officially
declared it on stage, this is chain mail weather. Like.

Speaker 2 (02:41:33):
I was like, Wade, you're the coolest motherfucker in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:41:36):
Two thousand trees right, and you probably listened to this.
Start booking dungeons and plans start there in it put
them in the forest. It'd be great, put.

Speaker 2 (02:41:44):
The stage like little dungeons and yeah, why not?

Speaker 3 (02:41:47):
But yeah, like but that's the thing is like the
way they kind of intercted on stage is so spontaneous.
They are clearly like playing off of each other's energy.
Like George is still, you know, rampantly running about that stage.
He's in the crowd, he's like stomping about. He's actually
because he sings a lot more now. He does sing
and harmonize on the sort of the some of the
cleaner passages on the newer stuff, which is really cool

(02:42:07):
and stuff like Blue Spade and Swee Dreams of Otherness.

Speaker 2 (02:42:10):
So I'm like he's clear like trying to sort of.

Speaker 3 (02:42:13):
Make sure he doesn't become the kind of like the
bit that kind of the sore fum on the newer,
softer material.

Speaker 2 (02:42:18):
But it's like they're just such an in cool unit,
and you know.

Speaker 3 (02:42:22):
When you're reaching the set they've done, you know, a
run of kind of slower songs with like rough hands,
hate film, a Blue Spade, and you get that Dog's
Blood rift comes that comes in and that way he's
just holding his tire in the air, George is like
whipping his shot up and swinging it around.

Speaker 1 (02:42:38):
Actual violence in the two Thousand Trees headline. You know,
you don't get that very often.

Speaker 3 (02:42:42):
Yeah, like that song and I think like Dog's Blood
is such a fucking like insane song was how like
violent and rabbit that first half is it, And then
you know the that final crescendo builds too, is huge,
and it's like this is fucking brilliant. And then like
I even know it. They were going Toto, this could
be anywhere in the world. I was like, animeal, they've
been playing for ten minutes. It feels like because I
was just so cop in the moment, I was like,

(02:43:03):
oh no, they've been on for like over an hour,
Like this is flown by obviously like this Comminita in
the World in that two thousand Trees and then it's
sort of a billing that's kind of lean on Naughty's
emo headliners. One of those songs that's being in the
World is kind of grid is like this is the
greatest song in the universe, like the single that was
like the biggest of the whole weekend. Probably they finish
out and then they come back on to end care

(02:43:23):
of Young Cardinals into Happiness by the Killer what like
again that Young Cardinals sing along on the chorus absolutely
huge and Happiness by the Killer what feels like such
a like grand emostly stirring clothes who were wads doing
his Neil Young bit in it. And again the when
they build up Fundal Corsceno and George is just kind
of like bending Mic stands over his head. The eving

(02:43:44):
is coming crashing down ending and then they finished, and
they're just like they hard, they kiss, they are like four,
they're like five brothers and obviously the key ones they've
got like who's not obviously part of the band, but
like that Univerlex on Fire, How close bonded they feel,
and how can like they plow with each other Dallas
like the voice of an angel all like it is
just such a like spectacular thing of like this band

(02:44:05):
are not just a great post accuband they're just a
fucking masterful band. And this is again one of the best.
And again I've just spaffled about letlif but this was
almost on part for me, Like again, perhaps if we
didn't have such a hot, like close bond to Letlive,
I could see an argument saying this Legs and Fire
set was better because like they're just that fucking good.

Speaker 2 (02:44:24):
It was like such a perfect close to the festival.

Speaker 3 (02:44:28):
Those two bands, like so like again the spiritual line
post arcal bands who would like really like doing cour
stuff the genre with amazing live shows coming together for
me just sort of being like, yeah, this is why
I had to be at two thousand Trees this year.
This is why this lineup was the best possible one
for me. It was such a credible end to the festival.
I was toasty and warm and tired, but I was

(02:44:49):
like I saved my energy for this final two of
kind of like I'm I'm ending this on a high,
and it couldn't have been a better high.

Speaker 2 (02:44:56):
Like truly incredible end to the festival. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:44:59):
So, I mean I like I was saying at the start,
I've always sort of I thought of two Thousand Trees
as like your favorite festival that you just hadn't been
to yet, you know, So having now you know, popped
that particular cherry obviously seeing a bunch of your favorite
bands there, but also just the festival in general, how
are you feeling about terms of like two thousand Trees
as you know, as.

Speaker 3 (02:45:22):
I loved it, I just I was just so media
kind of like, yeah, I'm just so bored with the
festivals vibe, the stages, the forest stage is such a
cool thing. Again I mentioned the little mini stages step
in the campsite. Just everyone kind of just being a
lot more relaxed and.

Speaker 2 (02:45:36):
Feels that people can really express and be themselves in
a sort of cup of way.

Speaker 3 (02:45:39):
Again, like things, it was like like so remarkably clean.
It was just such a nice festival to be around.
I do just I get why, like so many families
go there, like and you mentioned like the amount of
like other things they were doing. Like I turned to
my sister one morning, she went and did the eighties
aerobics thing they have on the forest stage at like
nine in the morning. It's like pleasant place to be
and that combine them with again like a learner that

(02:46:01):
always is kind of speaks on my level, but this
year being a particularly strong one of like pulling in
a bunch of like really cool, heavy shit headliners I
was really into and again touching on just some of
that like britt rock nostalgia. For me, it was all
it was all just everything i'd want two Thousand Trees
to be at an amazing time.

Speaker 1 (02:46:19):
Yeah. So I mean, I guess any any any thoughts
or anything towards next year that I always think there's
about three or four headliners for me who are like
those are the ones that I would really consider going
to the Thousand Trees for. And they've booked a couple
of them in the last few years, Alex on Fire
and Jimmy it Well, and I've not managed to make
it to either. So that's on me.

Speaker 3 (02:46:35):
Obviously we know the one is the one we've we've
both badgered about.

Speaker 1 (02:46:39):
Like that, that's the one which I would absolutely not
miss for anything. Yeah, But like I said, I've fucked
up not being able to go for a couple of
these sets that I have wanted, Like.

Speaker 2 (02:46:49):
What I mean, I know they've had obviously like Fries before.

Speaker 3 (02:46:51):
Like I can imagine if this feudal for a friend
lineup that's currently going on, I could see them like
coming into yeah like that, that's when I could really
see doing a two thousand Trees headliner.

Speaker 2 (02:47:01):
I'm trying to think, like Creeper is.

Speaker 3 (02:47:02):
The one, Like I think Creeper need to be given
their sort of festival headline position at two thousand Trees.
They've done the Axioum stage headline that now I think
it's time to pull the trick and be like, come on,
let Creeper have their moment.

Speaker 2 (02:47:13):
Headline two thousand Trees. I think they I think that
would be a great shot do.

Speaker 3 (02:47:16):
The co headline if and get gay and fine Creepers
like do that, like fucking come on, like I would
have like me and you would just be like this
is the best part of our lives.

Speaker 2 (02:47:24):
Like, I like, that'd be really cool. I'm trying like
other things that could like be interesting, Pauls.

Speaker 3 (02:47:30):
But even there's plenty of options of like cool stuff
they could book, but like just bok Afi, that's just
what we need. Thats like, just do it please because
the year you booked and I had to get canceled,
like broke my heart and they haven't been back since,
and like we just need it.

Speaker 1 (02:47:44):
I mean, if it's been a few years of us
overdue having a trip and talking about two thousand trees,
I guess we're over you and excuse to make that
particular plug. So there you go, two thousand Trees. First
of all, cheers everybody for listening two thousand Trees. You know,
thank you for again you know, inviting us along and everything.
Very much appreciated. Yeah, next week we are gonna be

(02:48:07):
doing the review show for July, which has not been
the most high profile month. We are going to have
a couple of what I guess you could probably imagine.
I'm more at the T and M staple type bands.
Of course we're going to review, but are also we're
going to come back with a bunch of quite small
bands that you probably may not have heard, which is
always a quite fun, interesting thing that we do when
we get the chance. So I'm gonna be a few

(02:48:29):
smaller reviews. We're gonna gonna put on the Makeship next week,
but let's let's do that, so cheers everybody. We'll be
back for that. And if you are at Manor or
at Bricks and Academy this weekend, Hales

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