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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello everybody. Welcome to That's Not Metal. We're your weekly
rock and heavy music podcast. We are letting you know
everything that goes on every week in the world of Rifts.
And welcome to another edition here Friday of Hyperblasts for
one more time here in twenty twenty five. My name
is Parenheish and with me for the task Ahead, Sam
digging on, Hello, how are we?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah? Pretty good?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Had a nice quiet week, really still recovering from the
album reviews last week, and there's sort of the things
inflicted upon me in that.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But yeah, all good.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
The beast within the album is now in the world
for people to hear. We were having a funny discussion
when you mentioned on the review about, like, what are
the most terrorizing albums that we've ever reviewed on this
show for you, at least personally. We had a little
discussion about that. I have been thoroughly in my like
eighties early nineties alternative bag this week because I went
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to see the Chameleons. First of all, who are one
of those postpunk bands from that like golden era of
it who I got into when I was like further
exploring that music produce some classic material I would recommend
if you're into that sort of things and want to
kind of unearth some more you know, bands like Joy
Division in the Smiths, you know, that kind of Manchester thing,
a slightly you know next layer down below the surface
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from stuff like that. I would recommend that, and I
enjoyed that thoroughly. I guess the most notable thing that
happened to me this week is I also went to
see My Bloody Valentine, which feels really random in a way,
like why have I now seen My Blood Valentine? What
are they doing?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
They've done five shows in the UK and Ireland and
their last shows prior to this where twenty eighteen, so
why you know, it's like My Blood Valentine. We said
this when we did you know, we did an album
club on Lovelace about two years ago now, and the
whole time that I've been into this you know thing,
this world, they've released one album in that time, and
even that felt almost totally just random and just something
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that they you know, put out there into the ether
before they then disappeared again. They're one of those bands
who truly feel more mythlike than material band, so seeing
the material band on stage was quite odd. And you know,
they are like the og Shoegazers in a way, so
they're not moving about on stage much, right, And considering
that the level of distortion of sound, I still don't
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think I entirely know what Kevin Shields and Belinda Butcher
sound like normally, Like they just seem to pop out
and I guess decide to be a band again for
a bit for reasons not known to us mortals, but
I took the opportunity a band with you know, such
legend both on record and live. And I saw them
the Aviva Studios in Manchester, which is a strange venue
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because it looks like a block of flats from the outside,
and then you go inside and up some stairs and
there's a massive like warehouse room in there, several layers
up and I think it's about like five thousand cap
or something like that, but it's so tall inside the
room that it feels almost like an arena. And they
used that massive like vertical space above the actual band
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on stage to fill it with like projections and you know,
psychedelic visuals and stuff like that that obviously totally mirror
the sound of the band. But one of their shows,
I think know they did Wembley after this, but before it,
one of the shows they did in Dublin was a
over nine thousand capacity arena and I've seen it kind
of banded about online that that possibly makes it the
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biggest shoegaze show ever, like in terms of a you know,
a dedicated headline crowd coming to see specifically a shoegaze
band event. And it's wild the pull that my blowing
Valentine have considering even at their most melodic, nothing they
played could be construed as a radio hit. Like it
was seriously like an audio visual experience much more than
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a sing along rock gig, even though portions of the
crowd were clearly the same kind of people who were
into like the baggy scene, you know, the mad Chester thing.
They would go and see the Stone Roses when they
were around, or you know, they've probably been the Oasis
this year, that kind of thing. And you know it
was great. See when they played Soon, which they ended
up playing twice because of some tech issues, they started
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it again. But seeing a room full of these people
suddenly given a song where they're allowed to start dancing
was like great. It's like, oh, thank you, Filey, we
can groove to this one. They opened with I only
said into when You Sleep both off Lovelass, which are
two of their most like unmistakable, sweetest melodies, just like
Bang Bang right at the beginning. But they're still not
sing alongs as much as they are kind of these
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alien calls just kind of reverberating out of you from
the stage. And some of these songs are like you
wrote this in like nineteen eighty nine, Like what the
hell were you thinking when you were making this? But
considering one infamous part of their legacy is loud, Holy
good grief, this was fucking loud. Considering it was like
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I said, you know, a five thousand cap large academy
to small arena show. When I think of shows that
have I don't know, tested me viscerally in some kind
of way, they're often inclosed spaces. One of the weirdest
sounds I've honestly heard a band of that size emit
because they're obviously you know, they're without whatever insane processes
went into making Loveless sound like it does, and those
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things that drove them insane and pretty much broke the
band and their record company. How do you produce that
on stage? You know, but that strange, oscillating, whirring sound
that is like the whole thing is coming through some
kind of teleporter produced in front of you, and simultaneously
it being ear bleedingly loud on also what is actually
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quite chill music a lot of the time, like extremely
disorientating combo. Like so many of their songs are just
kind of, you know, lightly hum along, and they're really
dreamy rather than rocking. You know, the songs where they
do straight up rock, like only Shallow, really stand out
in the set, and any time the drummer went a
little bit mad on the snare, it was like, ow,
how f fuck. But some songs are just like this,
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you know, polite hum. Like there's a song I really
like on the twenty thirteen album called New You, and
it's just very serene, you know. But having material like
that played at such volume, it's an experience I can
only liken to like being cooked inside a microwave or
something like exactly like just this omnipresent loud hum and
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the forever my bloody Valentine closer is you maybe realize
and you'd hear about, you know how back in the
day they would at the very end of it, they'd
transition into just an absolute, full on cocophonous noise section,
just a genuinely tuneless wall of noise that could go
for however long they want to do it that night,
you know, and when you look at setlists and it
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will say you made me realize brackets with approximately eight
minutes of noise or six minutes of noise or whatever.
And fucking Christ, I've never seen a band playing such
a large venue do a genuine act of noise terrorism
like that. We had to bounce about three minutes into
them doing it, just to make sure we got our train,
because there'd been some of those delays, and I was
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with my girlfriend, who I don't think has quite the
morbid curiosity for like how much noise can we fucking
endure that I might do. But that was intense, and
part of me did want to like sit still, curl
up into a ball, and just see how much blast
force we can take, you know, rolling over you. And
even just that part of it was like right, like
that is where some of that legend comes from. Even
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as they are, you know, playing these way bigger shows now,
they're all about you know, sixty years old or whatever,
Does this mean they're in a more active period band?
Who knows? Will we ever get a follow up to
the last album? I don't know, but I've not seen
very much like them, so that was yeah. I think
for a lot of people who particularly maybe went to
the London show or whatever one of those bucketless things,
because they don't come around very often by Blame Mountain,
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and they are so just absolutely like cast such a
huge specter over that whole world of post rock and
alternative rock and even how it feeds into extreme metal
and stuff that we talk about more regularly on this show.
Bands that it's possible to have. So I was very
happy to have seen them news this week. Things are
pretty winding down for the most part for the year,
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but there are a couple of bigger stories out this
week that we're going to touch on. The first, I
guess the most surprising news was Elissa White Glues is
out of Arch Enemy. It appears to have left the band,
and this comes about I think maybe eleven twelve years
something into Alyssa being the front for Arch Enemy and
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Arch Enemy are aboud? Who are They're such furniture right,
like they're so like they have for the entire time
and then double that again. Basically I have been following
rock and metal. Arch Enemy have been a omnipresent part
of it. And even if like I don't know how
much our audience particularly is genuinely that invested in ongoing
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Arch Enemy right because I think Archenemy are very reliable band.
I do always enjoy their new records and they check
them out. Do they stay around in the rotation very
long only if it's a particularly good one. The last
genuine point of that, like, holy shit, this is a
fantastic Arch Enemy album was the first one that Alyssa did,
War Eternal, which part of the notability of this is
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I do think, you know, for example, when we did
our twenty fourteen special last year, part of the stories
I think of of that period is like Arch Enemy
had this big, like oh my god, you know, big
resurgance again with Alyssa come in aso the band, considering,
you know, they had this iconic front woman and Angela
Gossau to then have someone step into that role anew
and it pay off and it work as it did
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for them on War Eternal was was huge. But like
I said, I don't know how continuously invested. A lot
of people are in Archenemy, at least in our audience.
I think they are there past their peak relevancy, right
and I do still enjoy them, but they're also they're
a meal ticket band, right like for everyone who's in
that band. They have such a firm touring enterprise. I've
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just done a massive tour around Europe, such a firm
kind of legacy that they can continue to you know,
be a bankable product essentially for as long as they
want to be doing it. So it was surprising to
see Alyssa step out of that. And for whateveran you
might want to say about a genemey, I think this
is genuinely true of Alyssa in Archenemy. In those years,
that decade of being in the band, she went from
being a kind of I think she was in like
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the Agonist or one of those type bands before this,
and she went from being a kind of Cetia. Some
people might vaguely know her if they're really into that
kind of music. Figure two, a genuine like magazine front
cover star who is whether you're into the band or not,
is immediately recognizable. So the fact that in that decade
she immediately stepped up into being one of those, Like
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I sayd a magazine front cover interview gauntlet style figures
does say something to the reach of arch Enemy.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Even in these years the past, Pek, they're still you know,
I think they did. Like Hamersmith Apollo.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Which is not not a small for like a like
an extreme metal band. You could argue like alog different
band whatever, like they're a heavy band.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
They play big venues for heavy band.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And and you're right, like I can think of like
magazic coveries like you know, listen like the Blue Hair
just kind of looking like this, like proper rock star
finding a more extreme band.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think it did give them a sort of.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Second career resurgence and crossover appeal that made them go
beyond like I mean, they plateaued and then it kind
of just kick them again and where they've probably plateaued
again at this point, they despined them because artuly it
feels like a very like businesslike band where everything's run
very like yeah, like operations done done very precisely, whether
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it's touring, records or that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Because again, like when it looks at the statement, both
of these they both seem.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Quite cold and very like very short, short and to
the point and not don't really elaborate on things.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So I know obviously what we've heard, God.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It's going to kick off all the room and mills
about like who's gonna replace it? But I don't than
you can really read into anything at the moment because
of how little information hasn't put out there, because of
just how like official and to the point is.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, yeah, you're right to point out about the venue
size and stuff, because I think it's almost underestimated how
big Arch Enemy are because when I say they are,
you know, not necessarily a band that a lot of
our audience are, you know, kind of really keeping keeping
too many tabs on. What I mean is, you know
when their records come out, they don't tend to you know,
pop up too frequently in stuff like the T and
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M vot is and with the elis or stuff like that.
But they consistently pack out those venues like.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
The subheadline bloodstock every time they play it, aren't they Yeah,
And then that sort of position.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And you're absolutely right that they are an extremely efficient
machine of a band in that way. So this is
you know, it's visible when these kind of swaps happen
and Alyssa. At the same time as doing this, she
has essentially launched a solo career. She put out a
song and it's kind of like it's you know, maybe
slightly bland, but kind of OPETHI prog rock metal. There's
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a bit of screaming in, but also a lot more
flexing of her, you know, a clean vocal approach, which
did come into Arch Enemy for the first time really
with her in the band. But maybe she's like, right,
I've kind of have done a decade in the the
kind of very gruff metal trenches. Maybe I want to
go and you know, do this kind of solo thing.
And you're saying about the again the rumor mill of
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what might happen next. Obviously a lot of people go
Angela Gossau, who did continue to stay involved in the
band in like management roles and stuff like that, will
she come back? I would say if she did, she
would have to actually sing, right, because they've now produced
a lot of material in the last ten years that
does involve that. And then you go, well, some people
might go, will Johann Leva from the nineties records come back?
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And I would say it's even less likely, given given
the image that Arch Jenemy's brand is kind of built on.
The curious thing about this to me, beyond just the
initial surprise, I'm like, oh, I didn't see that coming,
is that Arch Enemy are also on the VACAN announcement
for next year that has just dropped this week as well,
and again the same week of this announcement has happened,
so presumably they have a replacement, yeah, in the tank,
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and they have plans to just carry on ahead. But yeah,
Alyssa has said one of the people who in from
the twenty tens onward ascended to becoming one of those
immediately recognizable sort of metal star figures. So I was
surprised to see her, you know, dipping out of the
band that kind of made her so Silosis. In terms
of new music, we've got to talk about along with
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that Alyssa track, there is new Silosis in the world.
They've got an album that's coming out in February called
The New Flesh via Nuclear Blast Records, which has been
their home for a while now, and the title track
from it has dropped and in sort I think it's
roughly February next year. They have already there's a UK
tour that was announced a while ago with like revocation
and so on. But I guess what we didn't know
is that that would be a tour for the new album,
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and I felt like, man that soon. Then I looked
in the last one was two and a half years ago,
so it's like, oh damn, I guess we're like on schedule.
But Silosis continuing to I think they've got a very
strong particularly obviously since Josh stepped out of Architects and
made Silosis his kind of full time gig again, very
strong work ethic, right like they are really having a
crack at it, And uh, have you had a chance
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to listen to this song?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah? I think the song is wicked.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I really like this kind of era of Silos is
just sounding like a big, like imperious, crushing metal band
like I was gonna When it started, I was like, Oh,
it's going to do in the slow like current gadjea
thing of something very like imperious and powerful. And then
when it kicks into the fast bin, they're like they
start to thrash. I was like, oh, cool, this is
still got that Silos is going to pace and I think,
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what's so so? I now it still sounds like a
lot of Silo stuff I love back in the sort
of the twiny tens output, but it's just got that
kind of like I guess, a bit more star power
and a bit more pizzazed to it that I think
does just make you feel like, Yeah, So I loo
said that, you know, a pretty sizeable UK mel band
now compared to where they were, Like I conmember what
size venues they're playing on this upcoming tour, but like
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compared to where they were, you know, before the twenty
twenties reunion, they feel like one of like the sort
of more prominent UK bands now.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, and that intro you mentioned to me, it gave
me bolt thrower vibes like that yeah hard but also
pretty epic melody. I was like, damn, you know, they
are in this vein of, like you saying, doing these
kind of like larger, chunkier metal songs. But I think
this is a good example, as was the you know
singles from the last album, of how to do those
kind of songs and still make them feel alive because
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you have that quite hard, bolt thoroughy intro, you have
the thrash pace coming in that Silos has always traded in,
but also like there's feels a bit more hardcore in
this one. There's gang vocals, yeah, and it's like maybe
I'm hanging out with Malevolence a lot is kind of
rubbed up on them a bit, but it's very Silosis still,
particularly when you get into the last sort of minute
or so and there's the breakdown and Josh does this
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at like out which is like he's like he's in
drain or something, and then at the end the chopped
up vocal bit when he goes like made me like
actually before like the gall to do that, and it's fun.
It's a it's a good track, So I'm sure a
lot of people will be looking forward to in February
the new Silosis album. I think the real talk of
the town stuff we've got to do this week comes
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in the form of festival announcements here in the UK,
and the first one is Downloads dropping an additional announcement
on top of of course they announced you know, most
of them, all the headliners, a lot of the bill
in and that's what a couple of weeks ago, but
just dropping this week that playing I guess presumably headlining
the Avalanche stage, which is the that's the largest tent
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is the third. Yeah, but the idea of this being
an a tent is fucking wild because if you ever
see the size shows that Scooter play in their homeland,
and it's like fucking like car shows or whatever. Scooter
playing the Avalanche stage at Download genuine This is for
when we spoke about the announcement and we were like,
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obviously there's good bands on it, but there's very little
to actually write home about. The most exciting, Oh my god,
what a crazy booking that is Download has so far
is fucking Scooter in the tent.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I mean obviously so Downlards have like dabbled in this
sort on these outlier bookings, like whether it's like Busted
and McFly on the sort pop side, or or you
know when they had in the like the half Piave
stuff they had like the younger boys last year, so
they've kind of like this is like a total like,
oh my god, this would never happen, but this is
the first time they've gone. This is something completely out
of the world of downloads.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You know, like Bust and McFly, people can take them
as gateway bands. Scooter don't have that.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I think this is cooler than those for those reasons,
not just banking on some kind of elder emos whoever
who never grew out of.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, I agree, I was gonna go to this. I
think like like they have gone for a genuine world.
It reminds me of like when riot Fest would book
the Village People or something like that, like genuine kind
of like wild card bookings, where it's gonna have ever's
gonna go and watch it because like, well, what else
are you gonna do when they're on and it's gonna
be a massive pie and that in the tent. If
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they're not putting this on, it's almost immediately feed into
either Electric call Boy or limb Biscuit or something like that,
like and just ride off the party vibes for that
evening that I have to question that booking. But I
think this is like a genuinely inspired bit of like
wild card party booking.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, and you mentioned Electric Callboy, who like scooters actual
influence in the world of what is currently popular in
the sort of download spere is apparent. I have personally
had conversations with both James from Hell Ripper and Gabe
from unto others about scooters actual influence on their news,
which maybe unto others, is a little bit more apparent
with the who and all of that stuff, and that
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tent is going to be so rammed it's must see.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
You're gonna want to like, that's the thing is even
when a scooter fact, you're gonna want to see what
scooter it down load does and when they drop those
songs of people do know limbs. I like, I was
quite harsh on the download, like first announcement, I ju,
this is this is softening.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
We're like, you know what fair play download?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, everything we said about last annoucement, I think it's
still true. But this is the bit of spice I
suppose it needed. And it comes in the form of
HP Baxter and co. Who could have Who could have
anticipated that? Right? The other big UK festival announcement this
week came from up Tangent, who I feel like the
art Tangent in two thousand Trees Camps really like they're
rapid fire with the announcements, aren't they Like you're barely
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able to process the statue of one announcement and then
one comes along right on its heels. And we of
course just a few weeks ago got the announcement for
a lot of bands who are on aut Tangent next year,
including oath Breaker, return to the UK and several others.
We had now have the three I guess actually considering
Wednesday four headliners, four art Tangent Festival and a few
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more on top of that, and if we were already
saying that Art Tangent looked strong from that first announcement
the headliners for next year. The Wednesday, which is the
smallest day, features Sixth as the headliner, which that's pretty perfect, right,
That's a great Arctangent, you know type band. The three
larger days, the headliners are Primus Chelsea Wolf and returning
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for the first time doing it since twenty sixteen with
no plans currently to be doing it anywhere else in
the world, Cult of Luna and July Christmas performing the
tenth anniversary of Mariner. The announcement also features plenty of
other bands as well. Napalm Death are on They're High
on Fire are on their conjur as well, so actually
so a few obviously who are now turning up from
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Damnation having passed. Joe Quail is on them. There's a
lot of bands, but that top run, considering as we said,
it was already strong with the likes of oath Breaker, Primus,
Chelsea Wolf, Cult of Luna and July Christmas. Prim Us
haven't played the UK in almost a decade, and the
only festival in the in the UK they would headline
I think is Art Tender right. It's the only place
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where they make any fucking kind of sense, So that's
an event. Chelsea Wolf is a more regular appearance on
our shores, but not again, not as a festival headline.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
It feels like a real sort of different step for her,
doesn't it, Like.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, and she's still on you know, the s whiches
out to she Cycle, which is such a brilliant album,
and then Cult of Luna and Judy Chris was doing Marina, which,
having seen the first time out when they performed it
in twenty sixteen, is I mean Mariner. I think it's
one of the genuine classic albums of our age, right
of the t and m Era. It's one of those
albums that I think slots in with the best metal
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heavy albums ever made, and the live display of that
if you didn't get to catch it the first time out,
I can just tell you Holy fucking shit. You are adding, right,
you know you've seen Judy Christmas Life, right, you are
adding that dynamo performer on top of the already mind
shattering weight of cotton flood of the band performing that material,
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considering the Cult of Lunar thing is confirmed to be,
you know, the Saturday headliner. We've already we were already
expressing our pain about this, and I have been looking
at this all week, going why I hurt? I hurt
so much. I'm just telling myself that I saw the
Court of Leather thing the first time. But that's a
fucking set one of the best sets of art tangent
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headliners I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I mean, I'm not the arc tangent audience.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I look at it like this might be from them,
just the best arc tangent lineup possibly ever.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I think that into the headliners smash out the public.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
The fact that Primus doesn't even feel like the big
talk about I would have thought, you know, Prima sending
art would feel like, holy shit is Primus, and then
you can I.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Want to under sell Primus actually, such like I've never
seen Primus. I've loved that band since I was like
twelve or something there's such.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
A rare occurrence like yeah, but then but you have
to just have to put that up against the fact
that you have again just this the one of the
like those one off collaborations that produced an album that is,
like I say, one of the greats.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Of our time, that that of headliners.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And then again you go down the lineup and you've
got like six Pertbate and Napalm def High on fire
Alisi's stage. Again, I allburns there, like, there's so much
here that I'd be like again for the post who's
not the post rock like prog fan, I'm like, there's
so much.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
On this arc Handlin that draws me in.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
But yeah, just that that top line is like that
that's going to take some beating for festivals booking there
sort of like collective headliners like next year.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, it's a poster that currently instills a sting of
pain into me every time I look at But you've
got to go hats off to Art Tangent for putting
that string of headlines together that is genuinely phenomenal. Machine
Head have announced that next year in April and May,
they are going to be returning actually to the evening
with show format around the UK and Europe. And this
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is interesting because obviously when they were primarily doing the
show was the period when they swore off festivals and
stuff like that. I think it's a it's a nice
middle ground actually to have, you know, if presumably the
summer schedule, machine Head still are able to you know,
where they deem fit go out and do the big
summer festivals like we saw them the Bloodstock this summer,
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and you know they are. It doesn't need say about
machine that as such a great fit in the summer
metal festival touring, you know calendar. But if when it's
not festival season they want to go back to doing
the three hour extravaganzas I am of the opinion having
seen I thought either two or three of these evening
with shows when they were doing them, you know, the
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kind of those few and yeah, and it's in my
opinion it's the way to see Machinehead because there are
so many bands I wish would do it because fundamentally,
I mean, you know, having seen them the summer a Bloodstock,
obviously that was a fantastic headline performance and they knocked
out of the park, but you still come away going,
holy shit, there's so much material and watching a ninety minute,
(26:02):
one hundred minute machine Head show is not enough to
actually not only tick off the staple songs that they're
gonna play in a headline set, but to also then
make it interesting with the additional polls. Yeah, there was
nothing that like those three hour shows, so I'm very
happy actually to see them return.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I think it always worked in like cycle one of
like festivals or kind of like just you say that,
I'm all kind of like mainstream minded, we're gonna play
the hits for nine minutes, and then a cycle of
here's I agree in terms of like bang for your buck,
value for money shows. I think the even with machine
Head shows are some of them like the best value
I can think where just the depth of like quite
as if you're gonna get and like everyone always banging
(26:43):
about like oh you know they're gonna do a five
minute solo and Rob Rob's gonna speak for ten minutes
during dark one, Like yeah, they're playing a three hour set,
you're gonna need a break. Those those are there for
your for your benefit, and like I'm just that some
of the pools and I was like, oh my god,
I can't believe I'm seeing machine To play some of
these songs, and it was just a great time. So
I think, yeah, I don't know if I'll go to
(27:04):
this one, but it's called to obviously them. I would
so like to say all state between the two sort
of formats of what Machine Head can be live now.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I agree it seems like a happy medium of just
being about that Machine hur at the moment, and yeah, liked.
I think it's the way to see Machine Head in
terms of just like, for however many years they continue
to be with us, let's explore this catalog you have,
you know, and that's the only environment where they're really
able to do it. So yeah, I applaud that A
mood of math are also doing a big UK and
European tour next year. They are coming around in October,
(27:35):
so quite a while away actually, but they're bringing a
very Swedish bill with soil work in orbit culture with them,
and tie to this is the suggestion. The tour is
called the All Father Awakens and there's a suggestion that
this will be for a new album that is coming
in next you know, probably the summer or something like that.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I would guess given the tours October, I would guess, yeah,
to make it come out after the album.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, And I imagine we're seeing more of the All
Father very soon. My couple of Romance have announced for
their UK and European tour that is coming up next year.
They have announced the support bill for every date that
they are doing, not too many shows, but each one
has a unique support act and considering the Michael Coromitt
supports are all I saw a graph going around this
(28:19):
week that was like here is bands. Yeah, yeah, it's
like here is every band that has opened for Michael
Coromance on there, you know, since they reunited and it
going absolutely all over the place, from like water Parks
to Devil Master and those are.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
The two I was going to point out the Master's
like the two extreme mends.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It feels like one of the more interesting compositions of
like who could support X band is michaelic Co Romance's case.
So next year they are going to have in Anfield
in Liverpool, Echo and the Bunny Men supporting them, Idle
Wild in Glasgow. Three London dates have in order, Skunkannancy,
Joan Jet and certainly tait A Real Estate And then
if you are seeing them. In Florence you're getting Interpol,
(28:54):
and in Madrid you're getting Magua. Particularly the Anfield and
Glasgow dates getting Echo and the Bundy Men, an idle world,
who are you know, like iconic bands from that region's
musical history feels cool. I mean Echo and the Bunny
Men added on top of who you know? I enjoy
in my again my sort of gothy eighties post punk,
you know ventures. That is another thing that makes that
show particularly kind of like oh yeah, you could go
(29:16):
and see tick Off, Echo and the Bonny Men and
Couple of Romance. But the London dates, I mean very
jone jet on one day and certainly real Estate one another.
Is is a swing, isn't it? But what do you
make of these?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Well, I've got seen their real estate, so I'm very
happy with that to sort of see them again.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
But I think like that just chance of what we
just I was like, when we'll.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Go for the Saturday, it's the most community for me,
and I was like, oh, wicked, sony, I'll see them again.
Like it's funny I've waited years for their real estate
show and then to come along a year apart from
me but not playing I mean, Skunk Nancy is like
a cool one again for sort of like a London show.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I think that they're like a.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Corporal and jone Jet is kind of like that feels
like the one that kind of sticks out is like
very well God, but hits, I think like they could
only are just bringing whoever they want to bring out
with them at this point. And again they've gone, like
I said, the echo of the Body Man Nado World
one feels so regionally specific that I mean they're gonna
show the sort of music fans of Micromorts are where
they probably are sort of saying, yeah, we want to,
(30:12):
you know, bring something to celebrate that bit. I think
it's a very it's a much more interesting like spay
of bands. And it when last when it was like
lost on own in Cassiet So I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna knock it too much this time.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I think they I think it's call selection.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, agreed. And then just something I spotted that you know,
turned up on my on my socials right before we
going to record, is as a new extreme metal festival
that's happening in the UK. It's in Bristol. It's called
the Bristol Extreme Fest and it's happening on the twenty
nights of August next year, and they've announced one of
their their I guess they're their stage headliners. I think
the main stage one is Rotting Christ. So I guess
(30:47):
I'm just curious to be like, oh, there's there's something new,
some kind of extreme festival. See what kind of bookings
this are getting. But if you are in the Bristol
area or you know surrounding and you want to go
Forte an extreme metal festival, currently Rotten Christ are slated
to play a show there and I will, I guess,
you know, keep an eye on if anything else turns
up there. Cradle of Filth, their band member falling apart
(31:08):
drama from the past couple of months is just getting worse.
I'm afraid because now six former members of Cradle of Filth.
This includes members who have been embroiled in the last
couple months of material, but also you know, members going
back years have come together and have filed a lawsuit
against the band Cradle of Filth. So it's it's really
unfortunate how ugly this is getting. And in a way
(31:28):
it feels like it was a long time coming if
this kind of stuff has been cooking for a while,
so I'm not necessarily shocked by it, but it is
ugly and it feels disappointing because I love Cradler fil
so much, but that's just continuing to kind of go downhill.
Tool this week in New Zealand played a bunch of
like deep cuts for the first time in years. Some
(31:50):
of these songs are kind of like almost sort of
the transitionary points on album, so I don't feel like
they're quite as worthy of the you know, oh my god,
they played that for the first time since two thousand
and two or whatever. But they did play, for example,
h from the Anema album for the first time, It's
two thousand and two, crawl Away for the first time,
in nineteen ninety eight, Intention for the first time, It's
twenty fourteen prison Set for the first time, it's two
(32:11):
thousand and two. Feels like the Mad One, because that
is I think on Spotify that's like the second most
played song on Undertow, But I guess it's just one
that like, we don't need that. That's not one of
our real, you know, staples, even if it wasn't early
days hit for them. But I imagine if you were
seeing that and they bust that went out for the
first time in Forever is Wild. And they've also added
their Black Sabbath cover into the set, their Hand of
Dooms cover that they did at back to the beginning,
(32:34):
it has now entered into that. So you know, interesting
tool watch returning. They're just watching from afar what they're doing.
Anthrax have finally finished mixing their new album, which would
presumably will be coming in twenty twenty six, which would
make it ten years from four or Kings in twenty sixteen.
It's mad how Anthaks, for how busy and continually active
(32:57):
a band they have been in those ten years, just
decided to stop being a creatively active one. Like it's
really weird. But Anthroats have basically finished a new album
that we will get next year, which along with you know,
I was looking ahead to our first reviews for example,
of twenty twenty six and in January we are getting
the double of New Megadeth and New Creator back to back,
(33:19):
So it is going to be a thrashy year for
the Titans and the Big Ones next year. And I
guess the big story of this week that's been unavoidable.
Is the band Vitriol, which I remember the name from somewhere,
but I can't say I followly, you know, I closely
followed this band. Everyone in this band, apart from the
you know, the kind of the main band leader quit
(33:40):
and left him behind at a gas station Informont and
just drove away without him. And I haven't got many
further insights or jokes that haven't already been made in
the last few days. That's just the story of the way,
you get it.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
It's the statement he fucked around and found out, and.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
He posted a forty one minute video explaining his side afterwards.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Like it's just like this is the kind of petty
nonsense that I'll always I'm always here for. Like it's
so funny how they're like cowardly outburst, were like, rather
than address it, we're not gonna address the issues in
the band. We're just gonna fuck off and leave him behind,
like stranded out of the monk gas station. I'm like, yeah,
this is the kind of like how bad must it
(34:22):
have been if they were like, yeah, we kind of
be able to like hash this out.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
We're out.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
We're just we're just leaving him behind. We're abandoning him
like so Dart, but again silly nonsense.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I can get behind.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Pretty solid final news story of the year for hyper Blasts,
I think, yeah, So there you go. We have got,
of course more things cooking up. And if you are
a Patreon supporter, particularly if you are a T and
M does Horror listener, our additional horror podcast that we
are run over there when we can. We have got
one more thing that way inclined lined up for this year.
(34:56):
It's gonna be coming this weekend when myself and Sam
are gonna sit down, We're gonna finally talk about those
Predator films because one of the I guess the last
kind of you know, big horror. You know, I'm gonna
say blockbuster, and I guess it is to some degree,
has done quite well, you know, big horror cinematic successes
of sort of the last few weeks or so has
been the release of the new Predator movie, and this,
(35:16):
of course gives us the excuse, just as we have
done with, for example, the closely linked series of Alien
we did that last year talking about a few of
those movies, talking about the original as well as you know,
the newer releases we're gonna give it that treatment. So
this weekend we are going to sit down, we're going
to talk about Predator, and we're also going to talk
about these new era movies, including Badlands that have just
come out. So if you want to hear us talk
(35:37):
about Choppers and all of those brilliant related stuff, I've
been writing my notes for it. And you know, for
as much as these are kind of everyone knows what
Predator is and what it's about, and it kind of
self explanatory in a way, there's a lot that's really
really interesting that I'm excited to get into with them.
So if you are again at tem just horror listener,
then we are going to have something for you come
(35:59):
in very very soon, indeed, and that is at patreon
dot com slash That's Not Metal, where you can also find,
for example, the special we completed this month about the
Nola sludge scene, the two parts of so many riffs
and so many sludgie sounds, and you know, mentioning stuff
like year specials and stuff we've done earlier as well.
(36:21):
We're of course looking to the new year and being
like right, Robinar has together seeing how we are going
to launch things off and kick things off, and I'm
excited to get into some of that stuff. So that
is what keeps this podcast alive and afloat. Essentially, if
you wanted to support us at patron dot com slash
that's not metal, that would be fantastic. So cheers everybody.
Let's have some releases for this Hyperblasts. Things are kind
(36:43):
of slowing down again. All the major major releases have
pretty much come out at this point. But last week
when we had our reviews show, which again if you've
not heard that review show, please do listen to that
one actually, because I know there are albums in there
that when we come to for example, talking about putting
together album of the yearless and stuff, there are albums
there that if you haven't caught them, they might have
slipped through the cracks, you know. And I want people
(37:05):
to hear said albums before they then go and submit
their lists to us and whatnot. So go and check
out our review show last week. But albums that came
out last week, we had the Algorithm, the French, you know,
electronic genre melder. He's put an album called Recursive Infinity
and more kind of genre melding, I suppose. But more
in the worlds of metalcore. There's a band called The
Pretty Wild who put out a record zero Point Genesis.
(37:27):
Danko Jones, one of the consistent kings of just straight
up rock and roll. He put out an album called
Leo Rising out on Blue Grape. I think this is
kind of hard corey jacent as a band called Gasket
that's like Casket but with a G and they put
out a self titled thing. If you are a Christian
heavy metaler, then the long time, you know, icons of
(37:47):
that scene, Striper Striper were back. Everybody. They had the
greatest gift of all. And if you want some kind
of newer and more old school heavy metal, there's a
band called speed Claw who put out a record star Dust.
This is a weird one. There's a band Morbicon who
put an album called Lost within the Astral Crips and
looking this appears to be a lot of members of
Iron Reagan, but with the vocalist from Fintrol, So there
(38:10):
you go, Sam Fintrol are cool, very gratiated, but I
can imagine that's some kind of you know, deathy whatever
type material. And speaking of death metal, Terror Corpse great
band name. They put an album called Ash Eclipses Flesh
and speaking of Flesh, an ant called Flesher from the
Maggot Stomp Store, which has produced a lot of big
name death metal bands in the last few years. There
(38:30):
is an album called Gore on Gore, which is a
lot some really you know, mind melting intense industrial sounds
come from Dome Runner, who put out World Pernopter Coon
and a handful of EPs that were released last week.
One comes from Spanish Love Songs called a Brief Intermission
in the Flattening of Time, Sam, do you have any
thoughts on where this fits in the Spanish love song's
(38:52):
current activity.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
It feels a bit like an extension of the last album.
It's a bit more chill and mellow. I really like it.
It's not the most essentious man st love song was released,
but as a nice kind of like stop gap between albums,
I will like have had a very nice time this
is this and it does have one of my like
dream guest spots, which is Spanish Love Songs with Soupe
(39:14):
coming in.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Oh, that's too much, I'm going to be sick. That's awful.
The Halo Effect put out a cover's EP, a really
bizarre covers EP. It features songs like, for example, I
Want to Be Somebody by Wasp and How the Gods
Killed by Danzig but in Swedish melodiesth style and is
a hardcore band I think called Exit Wounds. He put
out an EP as well, called An Offering to Tragedy.
(39:35):
And let's get us to this last week of November
and the last thing we are recapping here in our hyperblasts,
of course sort of roughly midweek, but an album that
we refer to last week is out in the world
views here, I'm talking about Master's Hammer and the Malda
or Disco Again. If you missed our review show last week,
you won't know what we're talking about. But that's available
for you and you should definitely check out because he
(39:56):
won't have heard much like it. You can go and
meet the Beast within elsewhere kind of shoegazy pop type material.
A band called Male Gaze put an album called Too Late. Now.
There is a band called X Side, So this is
who I believe deal in. Somemo's kind of like nineties
post hardcore, kind of snapcase quicksand kind of vibes. That
kind of deal. If you are interested in that. Then
(40:17):
X Side have an album called Bastard Hymns. Speaking of
I guess of the worlds of folk metal and what
comes out of europe long running band their Equilibrium. I've
got an album out called Equinox and a few last
offerings to us from the the murky, scary underground Blue
House Nord. If Master's Hammer is not enough for you
in terms of avant garde out there futuristic black metal,
(40:37):
then Blue House Nord one of another of the real
greats of that style. They've got an album called Ethereal Horizons.
There's a death metal band called The Ominous Circle who
put a really good album that I enjoyed in like
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen or something, and I saw them
at the Netherlands Deathfest or the back of that, and
they were really good and then they just kind of vanished,
but just had it popped into my email earlier that
The Ominous Circle are back and they've got the cloven
(40:59):
tongues of fire so into very cavernous, cacophonus style death metal.
Then that is a band that I would recommend to you,
and continuing more so into the worlds of underground death metal.
It's a boud called Phobocosm. You've put a record Gateway
and a band called Fesus who have a great kind
of gorguts considered dead style, you know, a pastiche of
their album cover on an album called Subcutaneous Subcutaneous sure
(41:22):
as Subcontaneous Tomb and thirteen forty nine being Nordi and
black metal band. I've also got a live album called
winter Mass, and that is the last release there that
we're talking about from November. But really, if I'm honest,
the real purpose of us putting this particular hyperblast out though,
is to tell you how you can get involved in
our end of year season, because this is with those
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releases there our last normal weekly show of twenty twenty five.
As it turns to December, we will be starting our
twenty twenty five rundown. Sam, Are you feeling ready?
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Like, I've been like spend the last couple of weeks
trying to sort of fill to my list. I had, like,
you know, forty to fifty hours as I could be
in contention, and now to like whittle that down and
get that order. I'm primed and ready for like end
of year stuff. And again some last minute entries that
I was not necessarily expecting a few weeks ago, I've
kind of made their way into the discussion.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
All go for that for me?
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah, I've got my thing where I submit my metal
Hammer list in like mid October or something, and I
feel like I have it pretty set. But then the
last couple of weeks again you get these last minute
entries and you go, oh fucking you move things all around,
and I'm now at that kind of panic face or
so again. But as we often do with our interview shows,
just for our own kind of juggling of things, we're
going to be switching to Monday shows rather than Friday.
(42:36):
So our next episode will be Monday the eighth, and
that will be our first end of year lists from
some of us here on the team. At the episode
following that, we will have the second round of them,
and it will also feature your audience T and M
Albums of the Year list. We have been doing this
for well, I guess coming up for sort of a
decade now with this being O, T and M's tenth
(42:57):
anniversary year, and you've never let us down. But we
need you to vote if we are to have a list.
So today Friday, the voting will open. The easiest place
to put it is if you are in the That's
Not Metal Facebook group. If you go there, we will
have a centralized post there from the that' stumetal page
where you can comment your list, follow the format as
is laid out out there, and we will have them
(43:18):
in easy. If you are not a facebooker, then you
can get them through to us on any of our
social channels. Really, if you are a patron, you can
pop them in the discord. If you want to DM
us on Instagram or Twitter, we will find them there.
But we want your top twenty albums of the year
to form our list. Make your voice heard. You have
got albums from this year that you love and you
(43:39):
want to make sure that those get their fair representation
in our cumulative list. You guys always have the most
fascinating taste in an era currently where there are so
many things out there that are being pushed as like
the face of heavy music and what the big new
thing in heavy music is. I am more and more
interested in what you guys are actually listening to and
what you aren't as well, well. And the way to
(44:01):
find that is to see what turns up in these
combined ab of the year totals from you guys, So
please please get us your album lists and give us
the most reflective, fair TNM audience list possible. You have
two weeks to do it. The voting will run up
to end of day December the twelfth, before we then
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go and record our episode featuring those results. Please do
not give it to us after that date. There is
nothing more annoying, and I know this from previous years,
than an album list coming in after the vote has
closed that features an album that I know deserved to
do better in the official count. It's a tragedy. So,
particularly if you have the same favorite albums as me,
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I insist you get your votes in on time, but
from today up to Friday the twelfth, in two weeks
time is your window to put your pencil behind your
ear and figure it out and submit to us your
top twenty alms of the year. You can give us
less than twenty if you've only got a few. I
know there's always a few people like that every year,
but just think you're holding back to points that you
could give out, you know, like we've reviewed so many
(45:04):
great albums this year. Just take a look back at
our roster and think, oh, yeah, that album was cool.
I'll revisit it and I'm sure that you'd fill out
our top twenty in no time. So Friday the twelfth,
get your voting by then, and we will see you
next Monday to begin our twenty twenty five that's not
metal end of year countdown. See you there,