Hyperblasts: Incineration Festival 2025 Review

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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(00:47):
We let you know what's going on, We let you
know what your releases you need to know, and this
time a little bit extra as well. My name is
parn Haish with me across over there, Sam dig Noon,
Hello Sam. Have you since I last saw you kind
of a bit under a week ago? Your skull recovered
from no procreation of the wicked?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Like I mean, I'm buzzing off like one of that.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I've been kind of like floating along on just like
the energy of one of the sets we're gonna talk.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
About on the pyramid, fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Mind blowing, but also yeah, possibly the heaviest thing I've
ever seen live. Possibly, we'll talk about that like fucking
hell like insane.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah. I do apologize, I know, I said every single week.
I apologize for not getting a hyper Blast out last week.
I just could not find the the whole time was
the hole in my schedule and my other commitments. I
had last week to do it. But we are back
and we're going to make up for it with I
guess a bit of a bumper Hyperblast, because Sam and

(01:42):
I are going to talk about Incineration Festival, which we
were at this weekend where we saw the likes of
Tryptocon and Blood Incantation and Lamp of Murmur and a
whole bunch of excellent extreme metal stuff taken over Camden
Town for a day. But also you know, around that,
it turns out it's quite a hectic week for you know,
tour announcements and new singles as well. So if you're

(02:06):
here for the Incineration review, we'll get to that in
I don't know, like a little little while. But first
let's do the usual news stuff. We'll give you the releases,
and then at the end of the show we will
get into talking about everything that went down Incineration. Butt's
usual Hyperblast stuff. Let us get into it properly. So, uh,
first of all, which is I guess, but it's nice

(02:27):
to check in. We've got a little bit of news
about Ghost and their Skeletor album, which was released. I
guess two weeks ago now we still haven't got a
review of it because we've been busy, busy little bees.
But you know, obviously we'll get we'll get to it
in time. I don't think it's too much for a
spoiler to say that it generally it sounds like Ghosts,
and we generally like the sounds of ghost you know,
whether it is up or down in their discog free

(02:49):
or whatever. We will get to but I think we're
all thoroughly kind of till still, you know, team Ghost
and Skeletor. While again there was a bit of like, oh,
is this, you know, one of their best albums or whatever,
did extremely well sales wise. It became the first hard
rock records to top the US album chart since ac

(03:10):
DC's Power Up album in And that's the.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Proper round chart, isn't it that the proper album chart,
not like the they're like the hard rock keeps wherever
they go.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, I believe that's the full on, you know, Billboard
album chart. It had the biggest week for vinyl sales
for a hard rock album in that category since the
tracking began in nineteen ninety one, which is fucking mad,
and the biggest for any rock album. So again this
is what is hard rock whatever in their categoriation. But

(03:42):
aside from Blink on eighty two is One More Time
a couple of years ago it sold a little bit more,
and the Boy Genius record from like a couple of
years ago as well sold more. But Skeleton has done
serious numbers, serious numbers, and again that's just confirmation that
an album like skelet whether it is Ghosts best or

(04:03):
weakest or whatever it might be, Ghost Fever sees absolutely
no signs of shifting.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
No, I think this has kind of been like the Okay,
you know, they are just properly massive now, like the
charts of recognizing it, the tour numbers are there. We're
talking Ghost are like one of our biggest bands we
have now and fucking rock.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I love that that is.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
That's a situation where a band like Ghost and the
genuine they've been on and all that they can now
just be one of the like legitimate giants of rock music.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I mean, it's just something that we could all be
really happy about.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, and obviously you know this week we've got the
Sleep Token album as well, which I think I guess
we're expecting to also, you know, sell a bucket load
and do you very very well, so you sadly about that,
but you know, or say, whether they're the bands that
you're fans of or bands that you're not fans of, whatever,
there are clearly there are a few bands kicking around
in this very little window here who are going to
be racking up those serious numbers. And so that's something
that we can know a bit be pleased about. So

(04:56):
good for Ghost also racking up some serious numbers. I
don't know amount of discs, an amount of different versions
of Mamma Said or whatever, or just amount of Load,
because Metallica are going to be releasing a massive load
as every metal you know news publication wanted to fit

(05:16):
into their headlines. But they're you know, kind of ongoing
reissue campaign of doing the most ridiculous, enormous deluxe re
releases of their albums. It's arrived at the Load album.
And I remember, you know, this was a while ago
when they were starting doing you know, Kill Them All
and Ride the Lightning and that, and they were people
being like, oh, I can't wait till they get to Load.
That's kind of you know the first well, I guess

(05:38):
the black album to a degree, but you know, really
where the path kind of seems to split from people
who are with Metallica and not and people who are
just loads truthers. They want that enormous, massive load. I
don't own any of these things because I don't have
either know, like hundreds of dollars to be spending on
Metallica deluxe re issues. But if you want again your
many many versions of you know, until it's leaps and

(06:00):
tons of live recordings and stuff from this kind of era,
the load de luxe re release is what Metallica are
arriving at. Next, we're going to go to live announcements,
I think first before we round up a few of
the singles, because I don't know, it feels like where
we're at on the brain at the moment, but pre

(06:21):
empting you know, what we are going to make you
talk about later. A bunch of UK tours actually announced
in like you know, a couple of date window and
the first one at the gates that I really want
to highlight is Blood Incantation have announced that they are
doing a full on UK. I'd say full European. It's
always funny observing mainland Europe and the places bands decide

(06:43):
to play, because I can't necessarily say it's a full
European tour. They are hopping around the continent quite a lot.
But there's a load of dates in the UK. If
you you know, we're not at Insideration Festival, there are
four UK dates, as an island date as well in Dublin.
Whole bunch of stuff going on. And in terms of
the tour that they are bringing out, there were like,
you know, kind of posters for this being spotted around

(07:04):
the place before actually the full you know kind of
line up and routing had been announced, but just seeing
the bands they had together, Blooding Cantation going on. There
absolutely elsewhere you know, UK and European tour bringing along
a bunch of different bands if you are in different places,
so you know, if you are in you know, like
Athens or Istanbul for example, you might have different bands

(07:24):
are Esoteric or Author and Punisher. But for most of
the dates and including all of the ones here in
the UK, the bill is Blooding Cantation with a Ranti
Pazuzu and also an opening band called Sign, who are
really really cool. I'm gonna highlight them a little bit
more into the moment, but blooding Cantation and a Ranti Pazuzu.
This is basically like the tour of the year as

(07:46):
far as I'm concerned, certainly for like, you know, extreme
just kind of artistically minded whatever, extreme underground stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
This is the shit, right, I mean, even as someone
who doesn't really like Ransi Perzuzu, I can look at
this time and go, well, yeah, that's fucking like if
you like progressive, extreme, sort of interesting artistic music, these
two bands are two of the most kind of like

(08:14):
critically acclaimed bands within that kind of sphere at the moment.
So stick them on a tour together, and yeah, it
makes sense to me again, spoiler, go to this tour,
Like We're like, like, go to this tour.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
You need to see this.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Even if you don't like a aranci Peus like me,
you're gonna need You're gonna want to see what this
whole thing has offered. And even then I'm probab gonna
articular this and I'm gonna watch a Ranci peruz because
I want to see what the fuck it's like live
at the very least, and then kind of like be like,
so how do they do all this weird, oh psychedelic
horror nonsense.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah. I mean again, it's two bands doing the sort
of croud rock thing and extreme metal, but in like
totally different you know, directions and ends of it, who
don't sound the same at all. Yeah. Again, we were
speaking right after scene Blooding Can and knowing this tour
was here, he was like, yeah, so we're going to
go on the podcast, and just kind of stressed to
people like if you were not able to go to
Incineration and you are able to make one of these dates,

(09:10):
go because this is a serious thing. Sidgeon as well
are a band who I'm glad to see on their
Sigeon is a kind of newer band featuring the main
guy who used to be in this kind of very cult,
you know, but cool death metal band in the twenty
tens called Necross Christos and it's his current band, and
it's like very you know, sort of like thrashy but

(09:30):
also very musty death metal with like you know, very
evil lyrics, very putrid vocals, but also kind of very
understandable just like you know, it's a really cool pick
of opener to have the real the metal side before
then going fully into you know, the kind of the
outer realms with Aroanzipazuzu and Blooding Hntation. And they're doing
some serious venues as well. You know, they're doing the
the the Albert Hall in Manchester, which is a fantastic

(09:53):
venue I think for them, it's exactly the one that
I would hope to see them do. They're doing the
Garage in Glasgow. They're doing Shepherd's Bush Empire in in London,
which I don't think I've ever been shepherd Prezentpire, but
you know that seems a great venue.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
But it's it's like two five hundred capacity or something
like that, Like it's got like three balconies of seats,
Like it's a sizable for like a bandlike Blandingcantation to
step into.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
So yeah, that like serious venues.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, and so we're going to talk you know a
lot more about the Blooding Contation show later when we
get into Incineration. But just off the the you know,
straight off, the kind of press is here to go, like, hey,
here is like probably the best kind of extreme metal
tour of certainly the latter half of this year. Just
press on everybody that that is going to be not
one to Miss also announced if you are you know,

(10:39):
kind of more leaning towards your just kind of larger,
you know, at least in one of these cases Arena metal.
There's also a big tour that's going on from Killswitch Engage,
who are returning for because I saw headline Bloodstock recently,
but they.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Have their first headline tour since twenty nineteen, I want
to say they haven't done yeah since like before COVID, Yeah,
very very long time.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
So that's good. But the bill they're bringing with them
is hate Breed, fit for an autopsy and decapitated. I
think in Europe and not here they have employed to
serve with them. I believe that's the different.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Thing instead of hate Breed though, so like it's it's
a right, so it's a rough trade off. I was like,
I man imagine they could put together like employed seven
hate Breed as a bill. I would be having the
best night of my life if that was the case.
But even when you get that's a serious good time.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, and they're doing you know, Wembley Arena in London,
which you know, bloody about time, and certainly with this
kind of bill, i'd hope that they can you know,
pull that off because it's fucking Killswitch engage. We've long
been saying that that's a bad who just should be
and deserve to be, you know, an arena band, but
plenty of other venues across the UK and Europe as well.
Obviously doesn't need to be much sare. I mean, if

(11:50):
it was just Killswitch engaged in Hate Breed, that would
be like a sensational you know, metal door tour. But
adding those opening bands on as well. Big I saw some.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
And I was just like, oh, this is like like
a perfect day for me, Like children engage in hate Breed,
That to me is going to be like a two
hours or block of just me losing my voice because
I will be shouting so loud, Like I will feel.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Like I could take on a hundred gorillas.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
One man versus one hundred gorillas, like bring them all
with one them, binary person versus one hundred grillas, Like
I can't wait for this, And you're like, I like
that fear for an autopsy again, Like I've kind of
been a bit up and down on them, but they're
a really good kind of just choice for a like
heavy modern like metal band. At people are well liked

(12:36):
and Capitate have seemingly been on like great life form
over the last couple of years, so to Capitate as
your opener is kind of like that's that sort of
speaks the volume of this touring package where they've got
to Capitate on first like serious things.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, and then we also have the news that Paradise
Lost are going to be doing a UK headline tour,
and if you are a fan of some of the
stuff that we've been reviewing, you might want to know
that some of their openers, Mesa, are going to be
supporting them, who we reviewed that really strong. It's continued
to kind of grow on me sort of you know
goth rock doom metal thing. They're going out with them

(13:12):
also hy Parasite, which is Aaron from My Dying Bride's
thing that he's currently doing. So for those bands go
go way back. But I think Paradis Lost have a
new album in the can. I don't know whether that'd
be coming before or after this tour, but they're going
out there with with with Mesa. That is actually in Manchester.
That is the same night as the Killswitch Engage and
Hate Breed thing that we have just mentioned, and it's

(13:32):
the day after the Blooding Cantation tour. So literally, like
everything that we've just spoken about is within fourteen happening. Yeah,
so I've got to decide where I want to be,
I guess after the Blooding condition thing. But you know
which way Western Man, you could go see Kills Which
Engaged and Hate Breed and to Capital and all that.
You could go see a very gothy, doomy evening with
Paradise Lost and Messa and then you know, a lot

(13:56):
lot sooner than those things. But also, you know, hot
of the presses this week, Power Trip are going to
be doing a handful of UK and European dates around
some of their summer festivals. So they've been announced for
Download Festival here in the UK, but they are off
the back of that playing shows in Glasgow, Manchester and London,
and I guess I'm writing saying that those are the

(14:17):
first headline dates certainly the first tour that Power Trip
have done in this country since obviously passing a Riley Gale.
And then they're kind of their their current lineup returning
because they were here with Panterarea in the year, weren't they.
But uh, you know, a handful of UK headline dates
in the returning Power Trip that also feels like it's
pretty big news.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Well I was supposed like they're quite big venues considering
they've got a month to sell them basically like Electric Ballroom,
Like yeah, not huge, but like obviously we were there
the other day and like Power Trip, something that in
a month is like, okay, let's see what they did it.
But yeah, like if it was like if it was
that powers rub properly gearing up to being a real
band again.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
So are we you keeping an eye on that?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I guess yeah, again, it's another show that's like I
think this is the day after I see nine inch
Nails or something too much.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
June is two packed for me at the moment, with
like nine It's Nails an outbreak Deaftones.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, June is silly, but you know, I could certainly
be piqued by the idea of like, oh man, because
obviously I haven't seen Power Trip yet. Since they're returning,
I imagine they probably will be back after this, because
as I said, they seem to be fully just be
back now. But you know, first UK headline dates for
this incarnation of Power Trip with a month ago that

(15:28):
you know certainly is a notch on the calendar in itself. Right,
let's try and speed through a whole bunch of new
songs that also came out before we get into the
real meet of this episod, which is Incineration. I think
the first two of these were really gonna we're gonna
focus on and they maybe kind of like skim through
the other ones. But I believe that maybe like last

(15:48):
week when I again I didn't do the hyperblast. But
we have to check in on the fact that Loathe
or actually who we're going to start with, because uh
Loathe are one of the most popular bands in the
sort of metal zeitgeist, despite the fact that they have
not fucking done anything five years A long yeah, a
long long time. The last time we spoke about music
from them was their Weird Ambient record.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well was four years because they had that, Yeah, but
like since a full proper low studio album, we're talking.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Five years now.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
I was kind of just like, man, like, there was
a time when a band on their second album taking
that long to get the follow up would be a
death sentence and no everyone would have moved on, no
one would care anymore. And is sort of fascinating where
things are now, but I've been longing for something new
for this band.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I've been so just like, come on now, guys.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Please, It's like I don't need to see the same
Like I love those songs, but it's the same set
every time. Give me something new, and here we are
at fucking long.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Last, Like, yeah, I mean this is maybe something that
I can elaborate more on a little bit, if you know,
we get an album and then we do the album
or whatever. But Loathe and their time away everything has
been fascinated to me because, as you were saying, uh,
the idea that a band could come up with a
very hotly tipped dat record and then just fucking disappear
for five years basically aside from touring is a major

(17:06):
case of like potential lost momentum. But they are the
band who again on sort of you know, you look
at you know, the conversation that happens on like metalcore,
Twitter or whatever. Loathe I like the band that people
potentially have been demanding new music from for a long
long time. And my sort of observation of it is

(17:27):
I I like Loathe right, and I liked that the
album that, yeah, you know, when it came out in
twenty twenty. We reviewed it on this show and I
was like, yeah, this is cool, you know, and they
are a good band. And I haven't seen them live
as many times I'm sure you have, Sam, but you know,
I've enjoyed seeing them live and there are good songs
that you know, in that set that they have. But
observing that loathe aren't just like a buzzy new kind

(17:50):
of a promising Dailu band, which is what ivy them as,
but to that particular audience audience, they are like fucking
gods essentially, like off the band of that album, which
again I think is a good, promising, if very derivative
debut album. Right, that's an album the whole Oh right, well,
there you go, the album that anyone gives a shit about, right,
So there you go. To me, it almost felt like

(18:12):
that with their a rival point, but like they're almost
the band who have kind of ushered in the like
every band deciding to just be death totals h thing
like I think low the cool. I thought they were
again derivative and largely remixing kind of elements that we
all you know, but observing to the I guess the
current generation of again like medical fans or whatever, that

(18:35):
album hasn't gone down as just like what I think
it is, which is a very good new album. It's
gone down as like one of their classics.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's like that an Eternal Blue are like the classics
of the twenty twenties for that sort of yeah, like
is in that sort of caliber. And it's funny because like,
I think this has had like a really sort of
long tail on it of like it's really came around
a couple of years after it's kind of initial burst
where I think the Deaftones worship fully blew up in
sort of the metical world Free Ticks and all that,

(19:05):
and everyone kind of was like, oh, lover the band
who are doing that sort of thing with a metalcore
and so that meant that Loaf could kind of like
ride this sort of long talent of an album without
having to rush to get something else.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Out exactly, but just just saying about how if I,
you know, if I had a fucking penny for the
amount of times I've seen someone just like random person
I don't know, on Twitter saying that that is one
of the best albums of all time, right, like one
of the best metal albums one of their favorite metal
albums whatever, of all time. And I'm not saying that though.
I'm not like, you know, not shaming attitude or anything.

(19:37):
I'm just saying that there's almost a disconnect between like
the generation that that record is for have so like
taken it to heart, to the point that again, the
wait for new material from it isn't just what I
view it as, which is, you know, the potential lost
momentum of kind of promising newer band to the follow

(19:58):
up to what is probably a lot of people's like
favorite album.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
In existence, mythic album like Yeah, which.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
It feels a bit mad to say, because again I'm
just saying there's a disconnect there, but it is a
mythic album to a certain generation of metal fans. Now,
so the weight and the demand, the rabid demand for
finally new material from Loathe is colored by that. And
so then getting finally, you know, for whatever reason it's
fucking taken them to get a new song out, getting

(20:27):
this new single, uh, I guess you know, all of
those emotions and things are kicking around people's heads, and
again I haven't actually seen how necessarily the song has
gone down with that audience who are most you know,
kind of hanging on tenter hooks for every single thing Loath?
But what do you make it? I like it.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I think it's cool.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I think obviously it's a bold move to come back
with your first single in five years as a kind
of sprawling kind of six minute not really got a chorus,
like kind of like metal.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Another bland, who do that thing? Isn't there?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Well this is This is the fascinating thing like for me,
for Low is because I've seen people go like, oh
my god, Loaf have come out with this like genius,
formless like song that goes and all these and to
me it's been like, Okay, if you spend your whole
life swimming in the kiddie pool, going into a normal
swimming point, it.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Is gonna feel like the ocean. It's one of those
sort of things.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Because I like, I'm not saying I like the most
kind of like out there experimental music. We we've long
established my kind of like think with that some music
can kind of come and go. But to me, this
Low song is like it is for a modern miracle band.
It is a lot more expansive and it has some
really interesting sort of moves that makes but it's not
you know, like mind blowing in that it's kind of
just like, yeah, cool.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
This is kind of a bit more long form, a
bit linear.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
It's not you know, verse couse verse chorus, breakdown, chorus
it's doing. There's cool tempo changes, there's shifts in sort
of there's a very sort of dynamic feel to it.
Like it is like the most kind of like out
there Deathtones material, because the Deathtones comparison is unavoidable.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
But I think, I think that's really cool.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I think it's gonna you know, like it hasn't blown
my mind, but I'm like, I'm glad they've really spent
that time away kind of like pushing themselves a song
like She's just go a bit more experimental. I hope
the album has a couple more songs that are a
bit more focused and kind of deliver on that as well,
Like because I think that if there's gonna be a
Christian with this song, I think you might say it
is a bit aimless, Like.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I wonder if that's where you're gonna come at it.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I don't know, E've not spoken about it, but that's
what I feel like, and that's why I think it's
not as good as the most kind of like out
there like experimental music, because I think it can it
needs a little more focused, But it's a cool move
below to make, and I do like it.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, I was, you know, taken aback by it in
terms of the very first riff. You hear the bass
tone on it, it is like this is noisy. Yeah,
Like this is the full on, like fucking sludge bass there.
It's almost like it's like a you know, a metalcore
produced mutoid Man or something like which which does sound
less good to me because it does feel quite unow

(22:59):
clipped and can pray or whatever. But I was really
talking about by by Jesus. It doesn't follow those particular
conventional even again. You know, let's say, you know, the
other band who have come back doing the six minute
lengthy singles that kind of build and they go to
a different place or whatever. This doesn't feel like those.
This feels again a little more more erratic and more

(23:24):
kind of disparate and.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Bizarre tempo changes and kind of pulling in directions.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, and I don't really know how much of a
song this really is, Like I think it is a
from one lesson at least, I'm you know very much.
I will give it more obviously, particularly if it's on
an album that we then talk about. But it is
a bit kind of all overplaced and just from my
you know, first kind of go over I don't entirely
see the vision of what it's doing as a whole.
That's kind of a bit here, a bit there, whatever.

(23:52):
But how again, noisy it is to begin with with
like full on sludge rock or whatever. Yeah, actually I
thought the melodic stuff wasn't quite as like I know,
just hear's directly something taken from White Pony or whatever
is the previous record was, and then it goes through
places like I don't think loathe arm My band as

(24:14):
much as one I like him particularly respect, but it
was nice to hear a you know, a very popular
zeitgeisty metical band coming out with you know, any lead single,
let alone one after that much time away and that
much anticipation that they've had. That did actually feel to
me like I don't know what's going to come around
the corner here, Like this is not a particular formula,

(24:35):
it's not even you know, the quiet, quiet quiet eventually
will get to a riff thing. It is like kind
of veering and violent in ways that I've not fully
got my head around yet, but I was surprised by it.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
There's like a fast tempo change of thing, like four
minutes or so, when that kind of just comes out
of nowhere and it clatters about in a way that again,
a lot of these bands that wouldn those peers, they
don't really do it is you know, like again, we
like spirit Bos Smokes are very kind of like clinical
and precise.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
This doesn't have that kind of vibe.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
It is a bit more like it's the most ramshackle
over ever sounded, while still kind of like yeah, having
that kind of like chunky Deftones metal course or thing.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Like.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I admire it more than I think it's a really
great song, but it has got me kind of intro
It has kind of like reignited my interest in love
after a long absence.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Like yeah, and then that would have been enough in
terms of you know, again, big new metal bands coming
through a singles, but we've also just had the return
of Parkway Drive, who've got a new single out called Sacred,
presumably a lead single for a currently unannounced new record,
But you know, the whole darker still era and everything

(25:49):
has drawn to an end here and we're gearing up
for something new from a Parkway Drive and a new
single out called Sacred Sam. Again, I throw my mind
back to so years ago the lat time we were
talking about New Parkway Drive, and they are one of
those bands who we've always been positive on essentially, but
they do in their current form split people. Uh this time,

(26:10):
I've not even like bothered to check in on the
people who usually hate Parkway Drives or whatever. The only
reactions I've seen to this song are like our T
and M discord or whatever, so like the kind of
go back to killing with a smile people whatever. I
haven't seen what they think about this song. I've just
seen about I don't know what we think. Uh, what
do you think Sam about the new Parkway Drive song?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
If this felt like a funny sort of like full
circle moment for me? So I was like, I was like, oh,
I'm the person winging that Parkway Drive now sounds too
metalcore and not like before where people they're not malek enough.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
This is this.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
So I just a single like like five six times
in the last like day because I'm trying to swormprapad
around it because I fucking love Parkway Drive.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
They are one of my favorite bands. Like I put
that band on.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
A pedestal of like one of the twenty first century's
greatest metal bands.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Like we have long said that of their generation of
metalcore bands, a lot of whom have gone in directions
that we have very much fallen out of love with.
I am of the opinion that of the last ten
years of that generation, Parkway have been the most creatively honest.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yes, that is absolutely how I feel. I love Darker Still.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I think that album again, perhaps that card wasn't ready
for that album or like though they never will be again.
It's what It's a funny ALBM dark Still because it's
for of tho albums that no one can quite make
their mind up if it's the you know, the the
dumb new metal album or the kind of the weird
Like it's another of those albums, which I think speaks
about how creative and interesting an album is. But yeah,
I fucking love dark Still, So I'm always gonna be

(27:38):
excited for new Parkway And so when I hit play
on this and we'll get on to a certain thing
that I was made aware of whore. I hit play
on it, and that immediately was Oh no, but.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I her promise.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I was like, oh yeah, cool, this is just a
bit more of a kind of like modern metal core
Parkway Drive. If they didn't have the character of Parkway Drive,
I think this song would be a lot less interesting
than it is.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
But Parto Drive, you've got Winter's.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
A vocalist who is one of the most charismatic metal
vocalists again of the twenty first century, maybe stretched out
back even further.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I think Winter is the fucking guy.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
So he can deliver what is kind of more typical
kind of like melodic melcorp choruses and clean hooks with
his screams, but.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Like in a way that you buy into what what
every word he's saying.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
And I was kind of like quite liking the sort
of the first or two thirds of the song, but
I was like, it's kind of lacking that that thing
that I've loved about the last couple of Parko Drive albums.
And then after the breakdown and those lead guitars come
in and you get the way Eagle's there and the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
And I was just like, ah, there it fucking is.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
It's still in there, and again, it took me a
couple of winists to really kind of latch onto that moment,
and they have come around to really quite liking the song.
I was just kind of like surprised to hear them
be a bit more modern metalcore as a lead single
than they have been on anything for ten years now.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, I like the song well enough. I think it's
it's in a weird spot of being. You know, it's
a bit generic, but also in kind of a generically
specifically parkway way as well, whereas, like you know, again,
you come for what they're they're selling because it does
have those factors of feeling like essentially, I think, you know,
most of their albums they've put out of the last well,

(29:22):
I guess last few records, they've led with a kind
of what you could maybe say is one of the
dumber songs on the album. And you know, whether you
like those songs or not is a different conversation. I
tend to like them, but you know, they leave the
the slightly more ambitious stuff for into the record and
later on, and they lead with obviously where glitch last yeah,

(29:44):
wasn't it? And glitch I remember, you know it was
getting a bit of backlash from the kind of old
school Parkway Drive people because it is kind of their
you know, meat head kind of arena, new metal whatever
type thing. This I think, you know, this is the
least a Parkway Drive single has kind of impacted me,
I think, and particularly I guess, you know, a first

(30:05):
couple goes and it's kind of glitch and you know,
even when Vicecript came out or whatever, split people. Yeah,
you know, those songs split people and they're inspired a
lot of conversation, but whether you loved or hated them,
it was really memorable, right, whereas this is maybe the

(30:28):
most one has just sort of like just slightly bounced
off me a little bit right now. I'm sure it
will continue to grow me and I think it's very slick,
but it's also not you know, it's not unpleasant, right,
And I'm not going, oh no, I don't want Parkway
to be sounding like this, because it does generally sound
like a kind of you know, a large thing park
where would currently be doing. I like the again, Jeff
in the in the Riff, it's almost got they've got

(30:50):
a little bit sort of like hand of Blood kind
of you know, kind of but with every stompy arena
type feel, it's a little stop. But it also it
hits a spot in terms of, you know, Winston singing
about being you know, not being defeated, could of makes
me feel a bit better and a bit more you know,
in it than any other metal guy kind of doing

(31:12):
it again the way Eagles Day They're breakdown is pretty fun.
And then particularly one of these bands actually like spotlighting
a lead guitarist and going right, our lead guitarist, here
he is, here's his moment.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's the thing that sefes Parker drift because you're like,
this is my thing, so again, product producer guy to
actually know he's there.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
We all hate him now.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
It's the Fishy fingers. I will say for the record
that I, okay, we're gonna have to keep talking about
Jordi fish so fucking much, because you know, we haven't
spoken about the machine.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Head album yet popping up everywhere.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, I'm so bored already of talking about him, and
I don't barely even want to speak about him here
because this is a song where maybe a little bit
on some of the kind of choral vocal sounds or whatever,
I can go Yeah, that's a little bit there, but
also like it's not what every single thing is. It's
it's there, it's a fan, it's not mega prominent. It
still largely sounds like Packway Drive. I don't think I

(32:04):
would be like throwing my tours at toys at my
prime if I had not had that headline immediately kind
of fed to me.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
So whatever, Yeah, I think it does make I think
that's where the sound being a little more.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I think that is that is part of it.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
But I think there are just there are factors that,
like all those other bands, be your wage Wars or
even you know, architects Now or whatever, they're not gonna
you know, Spotlight a league guitar is playing a big
kind of heavy metal monodic lead part after the breakdown.
That's again the sort of factor that separates Parkway Drive
from those bands and is always going to make them

(32:38):
way more interesting. And I think Jordan Fish can't remove
that from them like I would do. I always say
working with a different producer, yes, but he hasn't like
this is his least offensive thing he's done since he
sort of decided to rub his fingers over every metical
band because he hear like Parkway Drives character is so
so them and so distinct and so powerful that he

(33:00):
can't smother that out.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah yeah, maybe maybe a little average maybe as a
lead single, but with time to grow and it's not
dislikable and there'll be more to say about Parker Driving.
I guess the month to come. So there you go,
and then let's very quickly just go. So Newfound Glory
put at a single called one, And it's been quite
a long time now since New fung Glory have done

(33:22):
anything much to you know, kind of sing about really,
but when this single dropped, Sam, you were like this riff,
So I'm sure that you know this is lighting a
fire out there.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
It is like again, I like me, I don't love
New Found Glory as another T and M host does,
but he's also kind of just like, oh my god,
I fucking love this. This is the best New Found
Glory song. Like, even ignoring the fact they'm done anything
for a while, this has been better than most of
what's been on the last couple of New Found Glory records.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Only this song fucking rip.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, So there you go. That's cool. It did sound
pretty sunny and cool. Health and Chelsea Wolf put out
a colab single called Mean, which is a nice pairing
of I guess contemporary God of Icons, isn't it. It
very much sounds like a health song in terms of
the the electronics and the kind of beat and stuff,
which I feel like most health co labs they do

(34:09):
tend to lean. I don't know it as if it
always feels more like a health song with whoever it
is attached than otherwise. But it's nice to hear Chelsea
Wolf singing over you know, a health beat, So I
like that. That's cool. And then we also had Pupil
Slicer have returned with a couple of songs. There's one
they put a video out for called Heather and My
just kind of cursory listen to this made me go

(34:32):
it's they're still continuing down the kind of the Blossom
title track kind of road of like actually writing kind
of bangers and you know, almost like whatever whatever the
Pupil slicely equivalent of a floor filler is, like it's
a very immediate riffy, you know, for a band who
wants were very very scrappy, quite together focused kind of song,
which is cool to hear. And I'm sure that again

(34:53):
when we get more pupil slicer following on from from that,
there'll be a lot more good stuff there to to
speak about. And then finally in the news, Botch have
announced that they have got a kind of live album
you know, recording slash, you know, film whatever recorded from
their obviously their reunion slash now you know final farewell

(35:13):
tour that they were going on through twenty twenty four.
You know, we went to that tour. It was fucking great,
so I'm sure this will be great. And when they
had announced that there was a teaser coming, I knew
this this is what it would be. Right there was
like live footage and stuff. It made sense they'd be like, Okay, cool,
We're gonna have some kind of live document of the
document of the Box reunion tour, which I'm sure everybody's
down with. But I it seeing, you know, Sergeant House

(35:35):
the label go big Boch news coming tomorrow. It kind
of it gave me a nostalgia for just like two
years ago, because it made me remember pre Botch actually
reuniting and US see and everything, when it seemed like
every week Boch were teasing a new thing, kind of
refusing for it to be a reunion, right, and they'd

(35:55):
be like reissues or something or other, and Rich.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Just here's a new but we're not actually a band.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, they're weird behavior of doing everything in their power
to act like a band that doesn't exist, even though
they clearly did exist. And I just love after that
period of Butch finally reuniting and then breaking up again
and then immediately getting back on the teasing grind of
like big bunch news coming soon, incredible love of the game.

(36:23):
They've got to hand it to them.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, I may maybe prot a little smile to my
face here now. I was like and when it was
it anything more than I was like, well, no, what
else would it be?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Like?

Speaker 3 (36:31):
This feels like a nice kind of like yeah, his
kind of like cap on this little reunion run and
a kind of like like a way to look back
on actually how fucking special it was.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I'm like, this is cool.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, you know it will be good, just the the
transportation back to two years ago with the botch teasing
and the ship hous lovely stuff. Long may it continue good,
even though I guess how long can it continue? They're
not a band who knows anyway? That's the news. Let
us briefly shout out, I guess what we've got going on,
you know in T and M Land outside of what
you're hearing right now this moment. The last thing that

(37:04):
we did only that's not a Patreon, which is where
our real long form in depth podcast go was. I guess.
A bit over a week ago, we did an album
club back where we spoke about Megadeth rust in Peace, which,
oh my god, might be one of the most just
sheer like excitable, and then they do this album clubs
we've ever done, even though yeah it's Megadeth and we've

(37:25):
had conversations since in our you know, social media's or whatever,
but an hour of talking about rust in Peace and
what concentrated magic it is is really something. And then
we basically have the same thing talking about Killing Jokes
two thousand and three self titled, which is one of
the angriest, heaviest fucking things ever. We did Sunnydale Real

(37:47):
Estate Diary ahead of their return to the UK for Outbreak,
and we spoke about another like heavy monolith of an
album that kind of, in my opinion, sort of sets
a standard for a lot of the kind of avant
guards weirdo deathntel that we have around the day. In
Gorgut's reunion album Colored Sands. At least two of those albums,
you know, the Killing Joke and the Colored Sands one.
Sam will kind of newer experiences for you, but had

(38:10):
a hell of a time talking about the Lily.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah, like Colored Urns was one way again, I was
like that kind of like listen, I go, oh, this
is yeah where all of these avant garde extreme metal
bands are kind of like spun out from in terms
of like where they picked the sound. That was like
super interesting. Killing Joke again one of those bands, such
a huge discography that I've kind of been piecing together
over the years, and that was the funny Girl Like Yeah,

(38:34):
I listened to Killing Jack fast and ten and hated
it and then it was like coming back around to
eventually because again me in twenty ten, but yeah, that
album fuck me like one of the like most intense,
like virtually hate field records that we will probably talk
about this year. Like just as on these album clubs,
like really and to be honest, the mega hater has

(38:57):
to hold their hands and say some piece is pretty
good in it.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Such such a fun conversation we had about that record,
so that is available on the TNN Patreon coming up
in a couple of days time. Ageah, we've got quite
a lot that we have to sort of fit in
on the patroon right now before which to get onto
then doing our next review show here because we've got
a Poison the Well special to finish. But in a
couple of days time, you and I Sam are gonna
be returning to the t and M does Horror well

(39:22):
because there is an enormous movie that everybody's been raving
about that we you know, have to join in on.
We're gonna talk about Sinners, the new Ryan Coogler epic
horror western, whatever you want to call it. It's you know,
not really spoiler to say because everyone else has said it.
It's fucking amazing that movie, and it's one of those
where again writing my notes, it's such a dense conversation

(39:42):
to be had. We're gonna get into.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
It in so funny watching some people like tabs like, oh,
you're so close to getting it because they like there
is so much to like the layers of the themes
and what it all means and it's all linked together.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
It's nice that one of the like one of the
biggest movies of year is one of our movies.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
It is a vampire siege movie essentially, and I'm like, yeah,
this has been one of the biggs movies of the year.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
This feels fucking cool.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, so we're gonna say so much about that. We're
also we're gonna partner it with the new Until Dawn movie,
the video game adaptation that came out like I think
the week after Sinners, and yeah, I mean, maybe not
be quite as intensi a conversation as as Sinners is,
but you know, Sam's a gamer. I thought we'll get
something out of that. So we're gonna talk about Sinners. Yeah,
we're gonna talk about Until Dawn as well. So that'll

(40:31):
be coming up for the highest tier patrons in a
couple of days time, and then we will get into
Boison well, and then reviews and so on. Right now,
I'm gonna close the normal hyperblast sort of section of
this episode by giving you releases before we get too
talking about Incineration Festival. Obviously did miss a hyperblast last week,
so I want to cover some stuff from last week.
I'm gonna start with actually release from the week before

(40:52):
which I again just slipped through my radar that was
that it was coming out. But I want to mention
the new Sidgeon album. So this is the man who
are opening that blooding Cantation and a ranty Perzuzi tour.
I gave her the descriptive of up Top, like I said,
form next cross Christos. Guys, it's kind of again musty, crusty,
thrashy death metal, very evil. Cool to have that side

(41:13):
of the blooding cantation kind of you know, DNA represented
on that tour alongside the kind of proggy stuff with
a ranty Pezuzi. But that's a you know, a very
fine underground metal record that you should go and check
out coming. Last week, the Second of May Pop released
their new album Who Will look After the Dogs. I've
you know, I've listened to this album. It's it's good,
it's pup. We will I guess we'll probably you know,

(41:35):
review it in our upcoming one. I will say I
have barely seen a peep about this pop album, including
from you know, the TNM kind of audience, who are
normally you know, a very vocal pup bastion. I was
surprised at how little talk there's been around the new
pop album.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
See My Circles. It's cropped up.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
It's not been as like kind of like froffing As say,
like we're like morbid stuff about Like I don't know
if the last album just split people too much for
being just a complete like yeah, I want a little
breakdown of a record like.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah again, maybe we can discuss more of that future.
But I was surprised about, again the lack of conversation
around it. But you know, it's a good pop album,
so that's out. And if you like they Canadian as well,
aren't they Canadian punk bands? Propagandy they were back with
at Peace. Not a band that I've ever really you know,
really actually become a fan of Propagandy. But I know
that people who are found of them are like full on.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I'm the same. I feel like I should like them
way more than they're doing them.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Like maybe I need to, you know, probably go in
with this new album and see if they see see
if it clear.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, but the amount of people I say, I see
kind of going Propagandy are like my favorite punk band
of all time. I mean, I'm sure that everyone who
you know, Fourth Night character was very happier. They reached
new album last week, so there you go. And another
kind of T and M review Alumni Press Club, the
Guess alternative rock band. They released an album called To
All the Ones That I Love. Then we had a

(42:51):
new band, a newer band even called Bleed, which this
really threw me because this is out on twenty bucks spin,
I think, which is like the you know, the fucking
like Cerebral Rocks label and shit like.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
That, the nasty death metal.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, but this is death tones core, Like, this is
one of those. This is like, you know, and you
see the album cover and it looks like higher power
album covers and all the type of things, Like it's
a full on it's old rocky new metally death tones
influence type of thing.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Another chance to check this out, Yeah, I will have
to because it's that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Maybe I will really like it.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, but I don't know why the fuck it's on
the death metal label. It's mental But anyway, that's out.
And then there was also Model Actress with a record
called Pirouette, which is a very interesting sort of dance punk,
you know, very eclectic, strange band who we spoke about
last year on an album with episode with Alistair from
from aation spier. But I can see they're kind of

(43:41):
building a bit more mentu and they're on outbreak as well,
aren't they.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, Abreak London.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
I'm really excited to see them, especially off the back
of this album. They're they're really interesting, sort of different band,
very cool though, yes.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
And then I guess maybe if that's your thing, there's
another band called Naive, so I think if from here
in the UK, who were doing that kind of again
punk with more kind of dance and sort of eclectic elements,
with a record called Glitter. Then if you want some
more sort of two thousand style metal core, there's a
band who've got a little bit of kind of attraction
called Your Spirit Dies put out a record called Minawing

(44:15):
Pains Will Never Rest. There's a band called Paradise Slaves,
which I believe features former members of thirty six Crazy
Fists or maybe current members. I'm not sure, but you
know thirty Christate thick crazy Fist guys doing a new
band with a record card with Hell in his Eyes.
Then we've got a sequence of kind of you slightly
more long form records as a band called Slung with

(44:36):
a record in Waves. There's a band called Snooze with
a record card I Know How You Will Die, which
again I think is sort of like, you know, post
metally doomy type stuff. Whatever. There's a record that I
was looking into earlier from a band called Sarling called Motherfucker,
I Am Both Amen and Hallelujah, and that is a
like one hour long, one track noise rock guy having

(44:58):
a fucking breakdown for like over an hour. It seems
like it would be interminable, but if that it gets
your thing, then that's there. Then will pass. Yeah, well,
maybe you'll go for some sort of a Scandinavian crust
d beat type stuff for a band called Despite, with
a actually with a Swedish title that I will not
try to pronounce, but everything I say is in the

(45:19):
description of the episodes. The long running sort of blackened
death metal band Hate put a record called Bellam Regis,
and the UK frog doom band frog Lord, who I
saw at Bloodstock last year, put out a record called Metamorphosis. Finally,
we move on to today, the ninth of May, which
I think is another actually one of the more high
profile release days, because we start off with what I

(45:41):
guess will be even including Ghosts and the numbers we
just spoke about maybe the highest profile metal record of
the year. The new sleep Token album called Even in
Arcadia is out today, so that will be dominating everywhere
you see. By the time you hear this episode and
this goes out.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
It's going to go hid in the bunker for the
day and just not not stick your head up like
not noticing.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Well, Behemoth's album The Shit of God is also available,
So it's a big day for discourse, isn't it. But
you know that record's got banged on it, So there
you go. Behemoth, The Shit of God, Tech Trarch one
of those sort of new metal revival bands. They've got
a record called The Ugly Side of Me, the returning
you know, post hardcore icons. McCluskey, I've got a record

(46:22):
called The World is Still Here and so are We.
Peter Murphy, Bauhaus front man, he's out with his first
solo record in I think many many years, and again,
as you can expect from someone of his sort of
legendary stature, a lot of helping hands there from other
prominent members of the you know, rock tapetry he will
recognize involved with that. Then there is the Italian horror

(46:43):
rock band death Ss with a record called The Entity.
I was very pleased and kind of appreciative when I
picked up a copy of metal Hammer recently and there's
currently a feature with death Ss in there, because they're
one of Tobias Forger's like favorite bands and primarios. It's
nice to see death Fs getting in there. And they
got a new record out, ghost Bath, you know them,

(47:07):
ghost Bath. They've got a new record called Rose Thorn
Necklace if you like that sort of post black metal
type stuff. There's a band called Sparta Hat with another
Scandinavian listed title there but has said everything in the
description below. Atmospheric black metal getting more and more sort
of obscure as a band called Jade with a record
called Mysteries of a Flowery Dream. And then there's two

(47:29):
EPs that are out this week that I think, are
you know again work worth noting. One is Candle Mass
returning with an EP called Black Star, which features I
believe at least one or two new tracks, but also
covers of like Black Sapbath and Pentagram and og Doom stuff.
And then Harm's Way also put out an EP of
I believe two tracks called Other World and that's a

(47:51):
usual Good harms Way business. I think one track is
very hardcore and one track is very the god fleshy
industrial side.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
So yeah, that's kind of what I was expected on.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
So there's two tracks like, well, one tractor just like
having some of the fist and the other truck to
kind of just like cave my head in and make
me feel like the world is out to get me
and kind of what I've got.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Hell yeah, yeah, I think that's off cuts from their
you know, latest record that came out a couple of
years ago, but a Good Harm's Way right there, you go.
Those are the releases, and that is the conventional hyperblast
bit of this episode done. We're gonna go and talk while,
you know, a little while longer now because Sam and I,
I guess we kicked off properly. The T and M
festival season the summer this year might be made, but

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T and M festival season will continue for you know,
several months, as it will for everybody else. There'll be
various festivals from here and there that we'll be speaking about.
But our first one this year is Incineration Festival, which
is a extreme metal festival. I guess it primarily leaves
towards sort of death and black metal. Those are the
core staple home genres of this festival that takes place

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in Camden. It's been going for years and years. I
couldn't tell you when the first Incineration festival was, but
they do tend to have larger years and smaller years
quite literally in terms of the venues that they book.
Sometimes they only use a handful of venues. Sometimes they
go as big as they feasibly can do, which is
what they did this year when they book the Roundhouse

(49:13):
as the largest venue. And then we also have the
Electric Ballroom, the Underworld, the black Heart, the dev as
well as like a very small room where some bands
are playing. And it's one of those festivals that you know,
I go to. So many festivals are this exact layout
basically any extreme metal festival in Camden at different points
of the year, but flitting between the ballroom or whatever.
Many festivals use this lineup. I go regularly to that

(49:37):
area for that reason, I suppose, but go into Incineration
with the Roundhouse involved and this particular line up, I mean,
obviously it was large enough for you, Sam, who are
not a regular kind of Incineration goer. It did feel
like this was maybe the most high profile year they've
ever had.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
I think, like, like I said, they sold out their
initials sort of a lotment of tickets basically, and then
they did some ext tickets that didn't include the Roundhouse
and it's for that, like it was big caught attention
and I think, you know, the lineup kind of speaks
once that there was For me, it was I'm not
gonna say it was all I once a day, but
there was one set that I was like, I'm buying

(50:15):
my ticket because I want to see Yeah, yeah, they're like.
And the thing is is like every band I saw
really good, didn't see a bad set, Like, did not
see a set that at the very least I didn't
go that was cool like that that's kind of like
the bar we're talking.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
And again, like there.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Were a couple of like it's just have logistics which
weren't like deal breakers, but I think we could have.
I don't know this moved up back again with these
kind of venue hopper festivals, Actually, how can you just
move them out there there? It's just one of the
issues of that festival format sometimes, But you know, it
booked enough of the kind of like extreme metal that

(50:52):
I'm into to make me go I should go along
to this, you know, Day of Deaf and Black Metaling Camdom.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah. So the last time I went to it to
Narration Festivals. The last time they were using the Roundhouse
as well, and it is kind of annoying. It is
the one thing about where I go for fox sake,
because the Ballroom and the Underworld and the black Heart
and all that are basically within like a two minute
walk of each other. Like it's fully like there's a
corner essentially up the stream.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
You you have that you have one block of candom
that you.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Just like to. Yeah. So that's so again when through example,
I've been to Cosmic Voids festival or when we went
to UK death Fest or whatever death. Yeah, it's perfectly
fine actually really like just popping between those venu kit's
very easy when you include the Roundhouse, which is a
good ten to fifteen minutes up the road. It's not like,
you know, it's not a terrible walk in itself, but
if you are going back and forth, back and forth,
back and forth to back to the Ballroom or whatever

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to see other sets, then not only is it physically
very tiring, But you also you miss things more because
you go, oh, fuck, I'm at the Roundhouse another band.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Of just started the room near ten minute walk like, yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
So you miss a lot of sets basically. And there
were certain sets that I kind of looked at in
terms of the slot they were in, going okay, I've
got to go back from the Roundhouse so the you know,
whatever venue it is, and then back again. But I
sort of them wrote off so like, you know, for example,
there's a band called bed Saw who I was quite
keen on seeing, who were like a really crazy Italian
prog rock death metal band basically, and they were playing

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in the Black Cart and they were playing I think
it was the slot directly in between Blood Incantation and
Trip to Cord in the Roundhouse. So it's like that
was like an hour slot gap, right, But you know,
I'd walk back for ten to fifteen minutes, catch like
twenty minutes of bed Saw, and then decide, Okay, now
I need to start walking back again to make sure
I've got a good spot for.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
And when they're playing, you know the one hundred and
fifty cap Black Cart, Yeah, to get in is there
going to be one hundred fifty people who water to
want to go and watch that.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, So what we did is we largely kind of stays. Yeah,
we had a good few sort of like you know,
have a sit down breaks or whatever. So we kind
of we basically we saw a load of stuff in
the ballroom and then we walked over the Roundhouse. I
saw a load of stuff there. So we didn't like
fuck around too much into terms of like the constant
walking or whatever, which was kind of nice in itself.
It just means you don't see everything. The other things
I guess is earlier in the day, particularly before they

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opened the Roundhouse, because the Roundhouse is the largest capacity venue.
It's what they've sold tickets for or whatever. And then
as you said, they sold a few more on top
of like non roundhouse tickets. But they opened the Roundhouse
at about like four o'clock or something. So the earlier
portion of the day, everybody is trying to get into
the smaller venues around that that sort of Camden Corner,
and so there were cues. The main one that kind

(53:33):
of we got caught in was I know that there
was some cues getting into Warpringer, which were talking about
a minute. But also I think the big one that
a lot of people have spotlated was Spectral Wound in
the ball room, who.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
I was very pried that I didn't.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
I didn't realize how much of like everyone wanted to
get in and see Spectral Wound.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah, I mean they are very popular band in the
sort of black mel London around the moment, But that
was a case of I guess, you know, I think
there were maybe one of the last bands before the
Roundhouse opened. Everybody's trying to get to the borom to see them.
It was like a yeah, we missed, like we were there,
you know for the and they would have got the
bulk of the set. Yeah, but yeah, we are right
or when they would have gone on. But we got
into the set about halfway through it, Like it's about
fifteen twenty minutes into it. Not the end of the world.

(54:10):
It's just sort of how it worked. Some of the
logistical things again in terms of like I think, what's
the Roundhouse open? It probably would have been largely okay.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
But because my initial plan was I was gonna watch
warbring and then I was gonna sprint over to the
dev to watch it, I know, if it's Cops or Copes.
The Devil Stid Is Soul Side Project really wants to
catch them lives. I've not seen them yet, but when
it to the ages to get into Warbringer and I
was like, I really don't want to miss any of Lamp
of Murmur. I kind of just been that set off
just because of I don't want to get stuck in
a queue again, and that that's just the again one

(54:41):
of the logistical issues where when when you're running these
multi venue Camden festivals where the venues can have limited capacity,
it can be an issue.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
So you just kind of got to make those choices.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yeah, and again I feel for some of those smaller
bands who are in the dev Or the black Heart
or whatever, because again they're in a slot where some
of them might be legitimately clashing like you know, whoever
I was on in the black Heart clashing with Bloody
Pantation in the Roundhouse. You know, it's like that's a
it's a tough slot. But also the slots in between
when maybe bands would go see them, people are again
thinking about the walking back and forth and the queueing

(55:11):
and getting back in and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,
so again, it's not a perfect layout. I still ultimately right,
I had a you know, I had a great day.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Like I'm not gonna like, let missing two sets, missing
about thirty five minutes of two sets that I went
to see because of queuing dampened what was a great day.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Like yeah, and again I'm not even gonna say it
dampled it that much because basically it's just sort of
I looked at the class finals and went okay, like,
you know, I'm not going to see that that and
that whatever. But basically, in terms of what we largely did,
which was, as we said, rocked up the Electric Ballroom,
watched a load of stuff there, walked over to the roundhouse,
watch a load of stuff there, had a fantastic day,
and it did mean that again, maybe not flitting between
trying to catch every single band, I only saw bands

(55:50):
that I am a fan of, right, Like, you know,
maybe it would be nice again to go see some
smaller unknown bands or whatever. But basically every single band
that we even saw was a band that I, you know,
am key no that I listened to their music and
was you know, looking forward to seeing and you know,
no one let the side down, shall we say, everything
that I wanted to see was great.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
I mean every band I saw I've never seen before.
It was all new bands for me, so like, yeah,
I haven't seen a single thing that played on that lineup,
so like all totally new experiences and yeah, or at
the very least really cool, Like like I did not
enjoy set. There was some sets, so I was like, oh,
that was amazing that there was some I like, yeah,
that was that was cool. I enjoyed that was That
was just a good time. And I wasn't like froffing

(56:31):
at the mouth over it. But it was like it
was either really interesting and unique or just go like
that's a riff.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, absolutely, So they're just gonna fly through. You know.
The bands that we saw started off. The first band
on in the Electric Ball, which when it was open
as the largest sort of stage was war Bringer, who
I was really looking forward to seeing because they're a
band had been a fan of for a long long
time and our review of the new record, you know,
we were super super keen on that new record. I

(56:57):
was like, yes, this is a perfect time to catch them.
About the month or so after that, you know, fucking
wicked new record came out, as said, there was a
bit of queuing at the start. I was in there
from the beginning. I know that you got there kind
of maybe about two songs in I got.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
I was edged a bit like id cue to get
my wrist band, and then I got my ristin. Then
Numer just went straight into that queue after like minutes.
But there was just like we got to the boardroom
and we're like, oh, the queue is going, and it's
going and it's going.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
But it did move.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
I think when they I think when the Baldach started
they realized, oh we should probably pick up how quickly
be gaining people in with this queue because once like
because I was in the que about ten minutes before
they went to start.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
And it wasn't It was barely moving.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
The moment it got to twelve or whatever time they
were actually on stage, I can't remember, it was then going.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
We then basically didn't stop walking like.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah and will bring it were fucking great. They only
had about half an hour or something, so I was
left being like I could really like, you know, if
you come around again, I'll go again. But they were
fucking sick.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yeah, proper, just like rocking opener to the day, I
again I missed the first couple of songs I got in.
I don't know it was the but when they think
that someone too they were playing is it the Sword
and La Cross the album?

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah, I was like, this is fucking wicked.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Is like big triumphant me but like frantic frash they are.
They got a really fun kind of like stage presence,
but like they've got that kind of like create style,
danger and like evilness to them.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
I thought it was a great start to the day.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Yeah. So they open with Seve Reality, which is one
of their like old like you know, from like the
late two thousand kind of old school bangers, So that
made me happy. And then they went from that straight
into a Better World from the new record, which did
did rip, and then when I missed that but you know, yeah,
and then the other song they played for the new
record was the Sword and the Cross, which I think
I saw a video of them on social media where
I think they had a sword with them but they

(58:45):
couldn't bring it into the UK. So then they went
to social media in art if anyone on the rest
of their dates had a sword that they could borrow,
and then within about an hour they were like thank
you to the Exeter Fencing Club whatever the fuck it is.
They're like, thank you for the sword to you like
entering that thing, so that's great. We saw them between swords,
but I'm glad that they've got one for the rest

(59:06):
of the UK run. And yeah, just like sounding really
really great, really high energy what they're doing. You have
a right to remain violent. Thrash puns are their good stuff.
Then after them in the Electric Ballroom was Lamp of Murmur,
one of my very favorite contemporary black metal bands. It's

(59:26):
my fourth time seeing Lampa Murmur. I've seen them literally
every year of the above four years. They have been
here a lot, which is quite incredible, and every certainly
the last few times they just seem to be kind
of getting tighter and tighter. And uh, Sam your live
impression of Lamper Murmur, because I said, this is your
first time seeing them, and this is a band who

(59:47):
on record you were initially a little resistant too, but
kind of came around a little bit too. It was
really fucking fun. Though.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
I've so come ound to Lamp.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Even that first album is that the first album the
one that we I can't keep track of their life
like released but the first one we reviewed.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Which I was the second album is the first one
that isn't on streaming.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
But yeah, yeah, so I really like that one now
again like that kind of gothic black metal like sort
of thing. The dominated has gone all that like that
shit rocks and then the real like epic having met
on the the other album like really into act now
Live insanely charismatic.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I mean that was the thing that really over that
They've got a real presence.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
He is, you know, swelling about in his cape looking
like they sort of like the fancies black metal twink like.
He's like they're all like super like pretty looking like
but like with the Corpse Pain drummer in his shorts
in his hood, like they.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Have such a funny presence.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
But then like they but like they're just so captivating
because they have a real like theatricality of movement alongside
these songs. And it worked, and they saw the two
things combined together so spectacularly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Like yeah, the drama that legitimately just looks like a
kind of gnome like it in terms of like a
on like spiky little hood at the back. The you know,
the main guy am wearing this like genuine sort of
like fancy red cape, you know, swollen about the stage,
like they look like a bunch of ja Wars, basically
a bunch of little guys in hoods just going absolutely

(01:01:17):
fucking mental, and that's what you want to see a
black metal show. And so they were playing a lot
of I think there's some new material that they have
been playing for a while that hasn't surfaced yet, but
I think that was some of the stuff they kind
of came out of the gate where so they did
like I think as a song I've seen on setlist
called like Invocation of a Witch or Resurrection of a
Witch or something like that was one of the early
ones they did. I guess that will eventually surface in

(01:01:39):
a recorded form. And then they started getting on to Okay,
Seal the Dominator from Saturnian Bloodstorm, just genuine proper fucking
fift in the air riff and then Dominate Yes Call,
which has that wonderful like it comes out the gate
so hard but then slips into that like full on dancey,
slinky goth part and that is just so again.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
I was like, ah, when that came in live, I
was like, there is that that that that is now
I missed on record, but seeing it live is like
it makes so much sense. I loved all the Dungeon
synth interludes. Yeah, they just kind of kept a constant
atmosphere going.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
It was so much fun.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Yeah, and then I really appreciate I think, I think
one of the songs from the first record, every clips romanticism,
like closing the set and when they go particularly when
they go into the sort of the punk inspired parts,
when they just really like shit kick out a riff,
you know, and the drummers do and they're really ripping
on like something that's really fast and tight and thrashy
or whatever. Like they have that impact force, you know,

(01:02:40):
they have that like ah like punk kick that really
really works live. And I really you know, for the
kind of the pre you know, up to like the
big dogs at the end of the day, you know,
Lampa Murmur was like the highlight of the day. They
were really really fucking great. Then we went and we
wouldn't got a nice little subway, didn't. We add some
lunch and then had that little curious that we spoke about.

(01:03:00):
But we got in back for the second half of
Spectral Wound. Who Special Wound are like I was saying,
are very kind of popular at the moment underground black
metal band, and I think that they around this they
were doing a UK tour with Lampa Murma and Spectral
Wound the headlining band, So they are I think the

(01:03:21):
the you know, the larger of the two bands. They
were you know, slotted higher. I really like Spectral Wound.
I think they're really good. I think them and Lampa
murmur are a little bit like Lamper Murma has more
kind of eccentricities, like Lamper Murmur are a I would say,
are more identifiable, a very like there's a quirkiness about

(01:03:42):
Lamper Murma, whether it be the goth parts, the punk parts, whatever.
Spectral Wound is I think a little bit more easily
immediately understandable in terms of what they do, right. They
just do a very kind of like you know, melodic
but not too clean I guess, you know, melodic enough,
but still in a kind of underground sit to be
fairly straightforward black metal. And they're really fucking good at that,

(01:04:04):
and they've gotten really popular doing that. And you know,
when we got into the room, it was absolutely rammed. Right.
We were only able to watch from from the back
and watch again. Yeah, yeah, and you know, stage presence
is good. He had like his fucking like his serial
killer gloves on, you know, and just looking gnarly and
screechy and all that. But again watching from the very

(01:04:25):
back of the crowd, you know, being into it. We
got in and I think it was about halfway through
a song that I immediately recognized. It's got a very
very catchy riff that's called something like aristocratic suicidal black metal,
and I was like, oh, it's this one. I know.
This riff is very very catchy. And then from that
they went straight into what I think is probably their
most popular song at the moment, which is what's it called.

(01:04:47):
It's on the record before that, let me just very
quickly get what it's called. There's on Frigid and Spellbound,
which again has a very very immediately recognizable melodic kind
of tremolo guitar riff. And when they went into that,
the you know, really huge cheer went up in the crowd,
and I was like, even though we could of missed
the first bit, we've coming at the perfect spot where
we've caught you know, the tail end of I think

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one of their catchier songs that was. That was the
riff that was in my head then for the next
like day, even though we only saw half the set,
and then into again seeing a really big reaction for them.
Spectral Wound you know, did really really well and uh
you know clearly packed out the room. Another band who
are doing really really well for themselves in the kind
of black metal underground at the moment. So that was
very very good to see.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
I was gonna say just on Spectral because not really
on them, but for me, I just I agree with
the kind of like they weren't as like identifiable but
like as Lamp of Murmur, because that band have all
of these other quirks and ideas. But what it was
for me, it was kind of like just really kind
of like swelling, epic, melodic, but still like it was
still feeling quite dangerous. Black malt I was of like

(01:05:48):
almost one of the easiest sort of sets to kind
of just sink into for the day because it just
it does its thing. It knows exactly what it's doing,
and they do it to a high enough of having
songs that feel distinct and identify Fireball through the riffs
that was kind of like, yeah, again not faial with this,
but I'm captivated by what they're doing, just by the
kind of the sheer power of it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
And that was what like kind of won me over
with them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Yeah, an end from Lamp of Murmury, who was, like
I said, their torments the moment he kind of appeared
and you know, gesticulated in his cape and was very dramatic,
you know, during one of their songs as well. So
that was that was good. And then straight after them
in the ballroom was I guess, you know, we're getting
into the slightly more higher profile, you know, poking their
head above the underground bands now, because then it was
Black Braid for it's like second or third UK Parents

(01:06:34):
or whatever. I saw them at Fortress last year, but
I was keen see Black Braid again. I really like
particularly the second album, the one that came out twenty three,
I think it was. But seeing them, you know, take
to the ballroom, I know that you were curious to
see them, because again, they are a black metal band
who have started to appeal a little bit to people
outside of They've crossing over a little bit, like Yeah,

(01:06:56):
and I enjoyed them very much. I liked them at
the other year but they had some kind of like
sound problems and stuff at Fortress, and this was was
better than that in terms of just like I really
like the melodicism in there. If I think they've got
a really strong sense of kind of like you know,
galloping forth momentum and kind of like a stirring power

(01:07:19):
in their core progressions and stuff. And you know when
they open with like the first like couple of songs
on that last record, which I think are their best songs,
it just immediately puts me like, yeah, cool, we're going.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
I mean, I was gonna surprise because I don't think
it's what they just did tune their set to you,
but it was like just travel like bruising, kind of
like riff On Slot from Black Parid like obvious you
no like they are they are kind of like Blackmail band.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
So it's always all about this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
But I mean you say, like you said that they
had it was like a flute play or something that
they had some more of that kind of like traditional
elements in the lashing we saw them, but this someone
was just kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Them just coming out and ripping through some.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Of the more like hard hitting like some of the
songs as almost just like pure punk attack where they're
just firing at them and I was like, just from
that again that real like visceral thrill of like, ah, man,
these fucking riffs are going stupidly hard and they sound
so aggressive and so intense that that was kind of
the real thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
That one way of a Blackbraid. Libel was just kind
of like that, Yeah, this is fucking just like Agro
is shit.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Yeah, they did that one towards the end of the record.
I think it's maybe Twilight Him with Ancient Blood, But
there's the one which kind of starts really really slow
and then for the second half just goes into this
full on like Metallica, you know, thrash, you know, punky
kind of attack. And we saw that one and that
was really fun. And again, as you're saying, not quite
as much of lesser like the folk stuff in there.

(01:08:39):
I think that they have been a flute appearing you
know here or there, but it was pretty just heavy metal,
and I like that about them. I think they do that,
you know particular obviously the main guy is his kind
of stage presence and everything he's able to inhabit that
sort of you know heavy metal front man role. And
you know, I enjoyed seeing black braid. I enjoyed seeing them,

(01:08:59):
you know, kind of a fuller realization of what they
are alive than what I had seen before. And I'm
sure they will, you know, keep coming out and keep
coming back and keep kind of climbing in a way.
I was actually almost surprised that they weren't in the roundhouse,
you know, because you could put put them in there.
But yeah, that was good. This is the point where
we did start our little walk over to the roundhouse
for the rest of the night, going via like anime

(01:09:22):
shops in fucking bunch of yeah, hanging out with me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Yeah, I had to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Yeah, But we got in there, so we saw the
second half of Batushka. Who are in there? Who? I?
I guess I need to clarify where where the Batushka
saga is at? This is uh So this was the
proper Buttushka, or at least what has been generally deemed
as one. And I think now we can actually almost

(01:09:54):
put it to bed because we're now at a stage
where there is only one Buttushka. There's only one band
called Batushka. You know, if you need the whole kind
of Saga recapping very popular black metal band called Batushka,
who in the twenty tens, after putting out one really
like a bit of a kind of modern underground classic record,
schismed into two versions of that band, and there were

(01:10:15):
two Batushkas going around uh and the one that people
generally sided with less in terms of like having the
right to call itself Patushka, shall we say, is the
one that actually went and did the more prominent touring.
So if you have seen a band called Batushka in
the UK in the last like five years or so,
it was this other Batushka. So for example, there was

(01:10:37):
the famous I think a download show from several years
ago when I think they spent most of the time
setting up their candles and people started singing Happy Birthday
at them. That was the other Batushka. Now recently, legally
that band has been has had to change its name,
and that band is now called Patriarch, and the other
Batushka is now the only Batushka, and that is now

(01:10:58):
the one that I think is kind of beginning to
get its feet going in terms of like the touring
and stuff. So I saw this as a bit of
opportunity to My only time I'd seen any version of
potushka was I saw them before the schism happened, and
that was great, you know, and then I managed to
kind of step back and not you know, almost not
get involved too much in seeing this the you know,
the various different forms of patuska that were around, and

(01:11:22):
I felt, I know, good about it, and I felt
like almost there was some sort of closure about now
we're back down to the other band as it should
be is called something else, and we have this version
that is just the one buttushka that we have. I
was happy that I could go and get to see
that and be like, yeah, nice, great. I think the
the warring Batushka saga, I think it will always be

(01:11:43):
a meme, but in terms of ongoing like oh how
many patuskas are there, we have actually come to an end.
Now we're back down to one buttushka. It's the proper buttushka.
That's what we saw.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Yeah, It's the thing that sort of put me off
really engaging with Potusca for ages, because I kind of
became aware of them, I think on after the album,
but after the kind of the schism happened, and now
I was kind of like catching it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Was like what Botuska has been.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
I was like, oh, I don't care about any of this,
Like I just did. It's music good, and it just
it put me off every kind of really engaging with it.
So I was just like, I do I have to
research if Potisko on the line up and if I'm
going to go watch them?

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Am I seeing the actual Potisco or the fake Batisca.
I's like whatever?

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
And now that was I was like, great, that's all done.
I can go see Potiica on this fetiment. I can
go and go like, right, so what is it that
all those years ago when people gore like, oh this
is one of you know, the most like unique visionary
things in black metal. I can kind of go like, okay, cool,
put that in front of me. How actually is it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
And you know they have the you know, the setup
of the kind of the many Orthodox monks basically doing
they you know, they're whore chanting, and they got the
podium and they had some kind of like the altar
with like a coffin and you know sort of old
like religious art or whatever, and lots of candles. I
think I should turn the house life off. I think
the kind of the the you know, the normal roundhouse

(01:12:56):
lights or whatever, you know, the blue lighting whatever, it
kind of interferes with I think, let's just go candle light,
you know, like because when I've seen bands, you know,
black metal bands particularly just go in the no light
candlelight only thing. It does add into what they're doing.
And I don't think Partisica you know, benefit from like a
fancy light show. It kind of takes away from it.
But I did really enjoy seeing it in a venue

(01:13:17):
as you know, impressive as the Roundhouse, you know, and
seeing you know, this kind of big chanting religious mass
type thing in this you know, quite beautiful and quite
good sounding. I would say venue as well. The Roundhouse
was really really nice. And again we got there kind
of the second half of the set, they were playing
some of the slightly newer material and then for the
last like two three songs of the set they dug

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out those like the songs that we really love from
the first Patushka record, and it kind of it took
me back and I was like, yeah, this is that
that made me happy, you know that It was a
nice kind of revisiting of what I remember Patushka being
and what I hope now that the whole saga has
kind of died down, hopefully what it can be kind
of going forward.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Yeah, I mean, for me, this was just kind of
just like a pure vibes set. I was kind of
just like I enjoyed the dude whose job used to
just stand.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
There with a book and do some chanting. Like but
they did sound great.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
I was really impressed like that they they the sound
really captured the kind of like grandiose nature of it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
It had that real air of.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Authenticity to it with the chanting and the kind of
the robes. And and again they're not you know, they
are stood on the spot. They are pretty much rooted
to the spot as a band. But like so if
you're kind of just watching them expecting, you know, a
dynamic show, you're not gonna get that. But if you
can kind of settle into this very meditative, book quite
like extreme sort of sound, that that again, those two

(01:14:37):
things that they kind of contradict each other, when it
comes together, it just it is kind of quite awe
inspiring as a sound.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
I thought it was. It was really impressive.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
And again, like I don't have much on this for
any of the songs that I kind of recognized the
stuff near the end a bit more just for again
the word of mouth of that debut album, but it
all sounded, you know, like they're definitely was a kind
of uptick in like I don't say energy, but just
kind of like the awe from the crowd of kind
of like yeah, cool, yeah, what we want to see
when when they hit those songs, which did kind of

(01:15:07):
like pick up and drive the into the set home.
It was quitely when they finished Navy or just kind
of just like well, waving their things about and then
just kind of just wandered off like oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
They did like the whole fucking splashing holy water thing,
which was quite funny because they were kind of doing
it in a quite a particular rhythm, and people started
clapping on the kind of off.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
The girls ringing a bell yeah rhythm and clapping along
to it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Yeah, And I could almost sense I think there were
a few people of album who were almost like, stop clapping.
It's not very not very cult to be clapping in time,
but you know, it was fun. I enjoyed it festival, yeah,
And then I said, we stuck around in the roundhouse,
and I would have liked to have seen Kryptopsy, who
were kind of in between here, but we stuck around
because obviously what was coming next. The top two bands

(01:15:52):
on on the poster essentially you know, on the roundhouse,
the largest age.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
I said, it was like a one set that someone
ticket it. Probably it was two sets. I would need
to see these top two bands that they are the
day were then the money, the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Top two things on this are what made this festival unmissible,
right like this, Yeah, those two things together was always
going to be one of the extreme you know events
in or just metal events in the calendar in the
UK this year, and we're going to talk about both
of them to you know, some degree of depth. I
will say that in terms of just you know, an

(01:16:27):
evening of like what was it? You know, if we
include the two sets together in sort of an hour
break between them, it was like, you know, three hours
a bit more maybe of sort of being in the
roundhouse for that evening, that might be the three odd
greatest hours of live music. Certainly I could see this year.
This was like epical biblical all timer ship for me,

(01:16:50):
this evening of these two sets running into each other.
I know, you know, we spoke about like a couple
of years ago Outbreak that one's day that was like,
you know, fucking like was like Jesus Peace, Soul Glow, Yeah,
Code Orange to death Grips, that kind of thing. Obviously,
this is just two bands, but in terms of like
one thing leading into it to each other and creating

(01:17:12):
just our perfect storm of live music. Essentially, this last
bit of Incineration festival that we talk about, these last
two bands was for me, it was immensely special.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
One hundred percent agree.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
This was like, again, even as someone who is a
bit more casually into extreme metal, this felt like a
genuine kind of like these are events sets that if
you're into extreme metal you'll want to see. And again
it's too one band from the past, one very current band,
or like two ends of it both coming together and
just sort of showing that like this is what the

(01:17:47):
kind of like artistic peaks of extreme metal can be
in their own different ways. And it was again like
even within our gap, i'most glad there was now a
gap in between them because it let me kind of
just kind of go that blooding Canation set it's sinking
and kind of be like that was like something else
before as you said Trippicon doing Celtic Frost cave on

(01:18:09):
and just fucking again I said earlier, how can a
band be that heavy live like that guitar tone that
is a guitar tone? Oh my god, Like there were
moments that set where I was like rattling my bones.
It's so fucking like guttural and so intense and just like, yeah,

(01:18:32):
two sets.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
As an entwer festival, I'm going to quite a lot
of festivals this year.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
This could be the best enter on festival I see
this year just as a kind of like a one
two offer, like this is what it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Is, Lads, Like, yeah, I agree. I didn't want to
be running about doing you know, we get see one thing,
process it and then seeing another thing. And yeah you
were saying in terms of the past and the present,
I mean you could say it is the band who
are you know, being positioned as like arguably the most
critically acclaimed, you know, applauded heavy band on the planet

(01:19:08):
right now, who represent Almo the zenith of what is
going on in metal at this exact moment, and then
abound who you know, I would say, are the greatest
of all time. But certainly, you know, in the extreme
a metal world. It's it was basically it was the
perfect storm of this is the best of what it
is right now into then what is the only thing

(01:19:28):
you could follow it? Oh? The best stuff there's ever been,
you know. It was just so synergetic that way.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
That blood incantation set was so like life or trick
almost as like life can be that I was like,
it was so good. I was like you needed something
legendary to follow it, Like you couldn't have and you
couldn't just have you know, another very good popular kind
of like stream metal band come on and play like
they would you just kind of just would like it

(01:19:57):
would hold up. So having you know, like one of
the again, like put in a band who you are
the expert, like on two Concake Frost. But to me,
there they want these bands who for there it were
you know, a band who did push extreme music into
new territories and did and did change the game with
that sort of thing in their era. Okay, because that

(01:20:19):
is fucking timeless and that still sounds like still sounds
you know, ahead of the curve in a lot of
ways when you hear it now. So that is what
you can then put on after blooding cantation.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Yes, so blooding tantation playing a set that it was
just absolutely elsewhere, right, you know, it was a fifty
minute or whatever. It was sort of festival set, so
they didn't do anything else. I'm sure that when they
come back again with the tour in October they might add,
like in another song or two at the end, but
the set was basically two songs, The Stargate and the Message,

(01:20:52):
the Absolute Elsewhere album from last year which I'm sure
everybody listening to right now has heard. If you haven't
heard it, we've been talking about it for fucking six
months ago. Get involved, seriously. But that was the set.
It's what everyone wanted to see, I think, because it's
so hot on everyone's lips at the moment. Yeah, and
you know I said they've They've done it in a

(01:21:13):
few different places, but this was the UK debut basically
of the Absolute Elsewhere material, and so as a set
it was very much a case of like, here's an album.
Though you know a lot of us know quite well
by this point you've listened to it, however many countless times.
For me, seeing like every bit of that album that
I feel like I know all the twists and turns

(01:21:34):
of it now like you know, I've rinsed it, and
hearing every portion of it lead into the next part
the way it does on the record, but rendered live
in front of me, was really like overwhelming experience.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Like that thing is like I get I was Withamer Bunch,
you know, and so I know this some terns, But
even though it was someone I was like when it
came out love, I was like, fucking yeah, they just
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
They just do that, and it sounds incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
And again, just like seeing it let down in front
of you, the stage show they brought with these like
giant screen, these monoliths either side, these other screens everywhere.
It just looked imposing and it was kind of like,
again not just planning on life, it was bringing absolutely
elsewhere to life as a kind of like audio visual experience.

(01:22:25):
And I was kind of just like completely hypnotized by
the whole thing. And again they stopped to talk to
the crowd once, which is when they finished the Stargate
before playing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
The message Yeah, and it was kind of like that
was it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
It was the two pieces and you were just there
was nothing stopping in between them, and it was just
transfixing the entire time.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Yeah, so the stage presentation, you know, the heads basically
just like blood incantation visuals, right, you know, like spacemen
and pyramids and you know, all that kind of stuff
going behind them looked pretty cool. The kind of big
monolith things they had on either side. They had like these.
It was funny watching them, you know, erection them when
they were kind of setting up beforehand. But these big

(01:23:06):
stone sort of monolith things with lights on them, just
kind of put on either side of the stage. That
was all cool. But the you know, the five guys
and the live playing antation band because they have a
keyboardist with them as well, the guy who does it
on the record, he was there doing the synth thurloughs
and stuff like that. Watching those five guys put that together,

(01:23:27):
which on record you're like, how can they do this?
And seeing it done, I mean, Isaac the drummer, fucking
hell like that. Yeah, that part in the Stargate, I
was like, I really can't see that live. When he
just turns to those side things he's got, I could
have cheered, but that was a live drumming performance, you know,

(01:23:50):
watching him go for those two to twenty minute songs.
It was absolutely incredible, and then going for every one
of them, I mean, the guitar solo in the sort
of leg of the The Stargate, which you know, we
were doing the album club recently. We were talking about
Tornado of Souls and we were talking about like the
greatest ever, you know, kind of most expressive metal guitar solos.

(01:24:12):
That the big one in tablet one of the Stargate,
I feel like is one of our most recent, one of.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
The modern examples. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Yeah, And when that arrived and you could see, like
I can't remember, I know, watching a crowd react to
a guitar solo in that way, you know, just people
seeing people be like, ah, this is the moment when
he Morris fucking peels out. That part was incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Yeah, I mean that was it like just seeing how
they do like, oh, you know, that is a dude
just playing that guitar, so that like magic, like majestic.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
It sounds too good to be of human like hand.
But then you're watching and they're making it, so they're.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Kind of just like like if someone watching them when
they're playing, we're like when they're putting Harbies on there,
like we going to it. And then when they get
to the flow bits in their arms of almost like
swaying side to side and just kind of like yeah,
floating along with the music, and like again all of
these bits where having the the keyboard is doing all
of the electronics live, all of those sort of things,

(01:25:13):
having a gong you know that they're hitting to do
when they like amplifying those moments. It's all being there
and all again so much care and how it all
kind of fits together, and again doing over these long
form pieces and not missing like a single beat, everything
saying absolutely perfect, but still you again you also going

(01:25:35):
that this is a fucking live performance. This isn't a
like soulless, clinical kind of like exercise.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
It's like because you get those.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Moments like that guitar where the expression they're playing is
so tangible and so real that it does kind of
like it swells up those emotions inside. It's kind of
like I was almost like, this is what it's talking about.
This is why we come to these sort of shows.
We go to watch live music, but for moments like
this app elsewhere set.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Yeah, the you know, the sort of the slammy death
metal parts that they just like when they move into
those again in this like really wonderful Sandi venue, but
just filling it up and turning it into a fucking
bog you know, with those parts was incredible. But I mean,
for me, a really big part of it was again
seeing the audience response, because it's you know, it's it's

(01:26:22):
a prog rock record essentially, right, and you know, you
might think of it being, oh, you know, when they're
going to turn up and they're only going to play
these two twenty minute songs, it will be a very
sort of chin stroke key yeah. Yeah. But but for me,
a big part of why I love that record is
how like triumphant it is and seeing that I was
really pleased at how much it came across in the

(01:26:43):
show and how much people responded to the heavy metal
of it, because again when they're going to the big
melody parts and people are you know, like fists in
the air, I mean, you know, the whole the latter
part of the Stargate with the vocal that siphoned my
flesh into the Stargate part was enormous, and you could
see people who again had clearly you know, have religiously

(01:27:04):
listened to this record for the past six months, just
that I was really connected with Yeah, fully there in
the moment with it, and then the particularly then going
into the Message, right, which was the part where you know,
the whole first leg fucking crazy speed metal whatever, awesome,
so hype when they transition into first tablet two and

(01:27:25):
the you know, the kind of secret Pink Floyd song
that is hidden in the middle of that, and they
just immediately again all together organically switch into that beautiful, melodic,
uh you know, cleanly sung progressive rock song. I like
I was. I started like I was genuine I was
really moved by it, like it just it's it really

(01:27:47):
hit me and it was so sumptuous and wonderful. And
so then when they move at that into you know,
the the tablet three of the Message, and I really enjoyed,
you know, Paul the at the front man. He's clearly
been developing his heavy metallisms and he was fist pumping,
and I really liked when when Yeah, but when they
were about to embark on the you know, the last

(01:28:09):
or seven eight minutes of the track, you know, which
just goes and goes and goes, him going like are
you ready? Here we go? And then in they go
and that whole part I again, I was so I
was overcome by it. It was absolutely electrifying.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
We were saying about, could there's been you know, a
tune trick sept Like, I mean, the think that's apples
because when it goes, it fucking goes, and so you
will get the moment where everyone is kind of like
and the thing is everyone's come of behaving.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
The right way at the right time.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
Yeah, So when it was those like beautiful moments, everyone's
kind of just in are of it. And then when
they are slamming out those rifts and it's going hard,
everyone's bouncing and moshing and things, but it always felt appropriate,
always feel like the right time to pull out that stuff.
And again when that riff in tablet for the message
comes in, which again is my favorite part of the record,

(01:28:59):
I'm just like, it's the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Hardest shit ever.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Like seeing that line, I was like, oh my god,
this is just like, this is fucking unbelievable. And again
it felt triumphant. It felt you felt upliving. I felt
I was like I am ascending through the stargate into space.
I am off with them, flying off through the through
the sky like every kind of cluse so you can
make them up blanketation. They were just like pulling that

(01:29:23):
out live in a way that felt like genuinely special.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Yeah, it was such a privilege to witness. Like we said,
we came out of it being like we like, you
need to fucking go to that October tour because it's
again it's it's a landmark record, right, we all know
it's a landmark record. We've all see how it's kind
of been treated as one. Seeing it in front of
you is something else and as many people as possible

(01:29:50):
deserve to see that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Yeah, basically it's like it feels like and again it
feels it because it's just such a lamark record that
they are able to kind of like make it to
bigger place than they ever have and again give it
the live production that it deserves. All of the aspects
are just kind of landing right, And it felt like
again we said, you know, last year, two bands like
we're doing kind of the defining bands last year, and

(01:30:14):
this felt like watching one of those two bands kind
of go like, yeah, this is why they're not just
you know, one of the best extreme male bands around.
They are just one of the best bands simple as
skip genres, blood incantations are just that good, like genre relevant.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Yeah, also meant we got to hear a sampled dialogue
from Contamination filling the round House, which is absolutely superb. Yeah,
it was weird, it was overwhelming, and then we got
again a little time to kind of refresh ourselves and
acclimatize for a headlining set of Tryptocon, specifically performing the

(01:30:56):
music of their front man, Tom's You Warriors old band Celtic,
which does vary in terms of what they've done, because
they did in the last few years. I've seen basically
every bit of aside from Cold Lake, I've seen every
corner of you know the Tom do You Worrier canon

(01:31:16):
represented it. I've seen him with Triumph of Death doing
hell Hammer songs. I've seen you know Trypticon doing a
normal headlining set at Fortress last year. Two years ago
at Bloodstock they did a Celtic Frost set, but at
that point in time they were doing a little European run,
and what they generally had across the whole thing was
they only did the early eighties stuff. It was specifically
it was all about more Betales and ta Megatherion and

(01:31:36):
The Emperor's Return ep in between them. It was all
the old school thrashy Celtic Frost stuff going into this.
You know, two years later A Trypticon does Celtic Frost set.
But I think you know it was the the word
was out there that it would be different, right, it
would be a more varied in where it's drawing from

(01:31:58):
Celtic Frost set, which obviously incredibly excited in terms of
what could turn up. And there was a Tom Do
You Worry interview where he kind of gave some hints back.
He's like, yeah, you know, we're gonna do some you know,
bits and pieces from this record. It's gonna be these
kind of songs whatever. A the band themselves and how
they sound, as you were saying, Sam for a you know,

(01:32:19):
someone like yourself maybe seeing that for the first time,
they are everything I've been waffling on about for the
past few years, saying they are live right, but b
this set list was I'm not going to say completely perfect,
because there's always something that you could, you know, personally
shift around, but it was maybe right, they're my favorite band, right,

(01:32:41):
but this is maybe the most perfect set list I've
ever seen. It was just like absolutely like fucking bomb
after bomb after bomb, and I was on cloud nine
during it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Well, I will you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Just said that is watching Trip to Icon Douketacrost with
you was its own special little tree, like like watching
you and Josh like friend of the podcast Josh, like
you two are elated the entire time, like the whoops
and hollowings and cheers and punching our friend in the
back to drum along with it because you were just

(01:33:19):
so so away with everyone that was happening. It kind
of added so much child to it. But yeah, I
mean again, I like, you know, I was gonna say,
I like three Celtic Cross records into the Pandemonium to
Mega ferry On and Monotheist.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
There is no again more for me to discover there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
I don't listen to those albums religiously because I don't
listen to cover of slows, but they are fucking great records,
and so I was kind of like there was enough
in this set for me to go, Yeah, I know
the one, Oh good God, I forgot how hard that
riff is.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
And again again maybe I didn't forget.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
Maybe I just wasn't prepared for how much that riff
was going to churn my insides live. But I do
think again, like and just like drop in a mixture
of like what you could call the Celtic Frost bangers
and what you could call the most like suffocating evil
heavy songs you ever gonna hear.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
It felt like a good kind of like push and
pull between.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
That sort of thing, kind of like this is just
a fucking fist pumping, frashy riffer with like a real
like powerful engine to it, and then this is my
head is getting like squished here.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Yeah, So again, just like in terms of I know
that you know they are a kind of cult band,
but for a specifically extreme metal audience, watching a Celtic
Frost set is like watching any number of the giant,
the most classic metal bands that you could possibly come
out with. Right, so when they are doing those bangers,

(01:34:46):
it's songs that like you would when you're watching a
fucking Slayer set or a Metallica set or something. You
know the beats of those songs, right, you know that
they are heavy metal DNA In terms of again something
else that just like really worked in the roundhouse and
everything like the they have Like again, Tom Tom had
his own little like sort of podium with the sort
of tryptic on your banner over it. They had like

(01:35:08):
a little bit of pyro, you know, not a ton
of pyra, but you know a little bit here and
there to kind of go, and the backdrop behind them
kind of flitting between various bits of frost kind of iconography.
I obviously particularly love when they had like the Monotheists
kind of backdrop behind them.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
It's that expanded version of it, like yeah, other bits
of art, like.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
With the face in the kind of middle. It just
looks so imposing and like, uh, it's it's one where again,
if you go and look on like the Incineration Festival,
like you know, Social Medias or whatever, and you see
the official photography of that, like tryp to concept it
just it they look seriously like they look like a
band of legends who are headlining this you know, prestigious event,
and that the aura kind of is conveyed out of them.

(01:35:51):
So the set list, I think it was almost we
have to kind of go through it because it was
almost some segmented into acts to a degree in a
way that really like in linear fashion kind of unfolded.
How the set felt, So they came out and they
opened with Circle of the Tyrants, which is like of

(01:36:13):
the class you know, the eighties frost material that is
maybe like their flagship song. It's the one that bands
will always cover or whatever. And then they went from
that into the Usurper, which is also one of those
songs like again for you know Metallica terms or something
that's a bit like if you watch Metallica and they
open with battery into Blackened or something or like damage ink.

(01:36:36):
Like it was just like, oh God, and so it
was so immediate and so intense and so uh, you know,
thrashing abandon of these classic songs. It also to me informed, oh,
like they're like front loading what are the old school
heavy hitters, which implied to me that the back end

(01:36:58):
of the set would go somewhere else, which it did, right,
But having this opening run of Circle of Tyrants, then
they Usurper and then moving in some more betail songs,
was returned to the eve into the cryptive Rays, which
you know, we were enjoying getting you involved with the
into a cryptive raise, you know, just like shouting the
words that's occasionally.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Not so familiar, but that hook they hit that hook
around the house like the by the sort of second
phone go around.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
I was like, fist pumping, shouting along with it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Yeah, because it's basically a d beat song, right is
you know, it's fast paced, you air drum along, you
shout the hook. It's brilliant. Then they hit Procreation of
the Wicked, which I think of all the old of
the all the old school Celtic Cross songs is the
one that I've always said, what trip Tocon do to
that riff in the live environment is one of the
stupidest things about us. This is the way you turn

(01:37:50):
to me going, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
This was a my wagon.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
I liked that opening round and like inter Raises kind
of was I'm really getting into it and then progressing
again one of the songs I I do when the
songs are more familiar with I was like cool, and
then just hearing them do that to it live, I
was like, I feel tiny and insignificant in the presence
of this song.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
I'm fucking believable.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Just the guitar tone, the way they play it half
as fucking you know, fast as they do on record.
The guitar toe with Triptocon is so much lower. You've
still got people, you know, again the very easy to
get along with procreation of the wicked vocal hook at
the center of it. But it's absolutely just smothering, world
endingly huge. And as said, we were on opening like

(01:38:37):
run of five songs there that are all basically classic
songs from the eighties that you you know, any normal
band would sprinkle those kind of throughout the set whatever,
but it signaled something. Then we started getting stuff that
I haven't seen them do before. We got ground Promnotheist,

(01:38:57):
which is a like it one of the more straightforward
songs on Monotheist. It's like three minutes long. Again, it's
super fucking heavy. It has a real again a real
vocal hook at the center of it, with the Oh God,
why have you forsaken Me, which again you can see
people kind of getting along with. But just the fact
that we were going further down this rabbit hole of
like kind of more off the beaten track Cattig Frost stuff,

(01:39:19):
and that was so heavy. I think that's a song
that they played live on the Monotheist tour with Celtic Frost,
but Triptocon had never done it, and so they kind
of unearthed it and then we got some into the
pandemonium stuff as well, which again Tom had said, like
we're gonna do some pandemonium stuff. We're gonna maybe lean
on the slightly more new avy gothyat whatever area of stuff.

(01:39:43):
And so we got Mesmerized into Sorrows of the Moon,
both which are you know, if you've heard this Panemanic record,
if you've heard our album Club we did several years
ago on it, those are like the goth metal songs
basically on that record.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Yeah, again, like I forget, how like how know? When
comes over God?

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
This song is like like the genuine a bit of
like just a goth metal banger.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
It's so cool.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Who in my head I have like character saying like
apocalyptically heavy band when they have these little turns they
can pull out and again dropping them this far into
the setup, they'd kind of like cave my skull and
was kind of the stuff and as you'll pick me
up to kind of be like, oh yeah, cool, let's
let's get let's get back in for this final leg.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Right Yeah, And I was. I was really happy and
excited to be seeing this stuff. You know, Mesmerized Rift
is incredible. Tom's doing those weird, moaning goth vocal things
that he does. And when they went to Stars of
the Moon, right, the combination of so that's one of
my very favorite County Frost songs anyway, but the combination
of hearing that riff played as Tripticon Do It, which

(01:40:43):
was again so much heavier and it was kind of bouncier,
that kind of doo doo do Do Do, and then
flitting into the weird like you know, sort of like
not you wouldn't call it melodic, but the sort of
moaning vocal. You know, our friend who you're with. He
turned to me and went, this sounds like cool, and
it's like, yeah, like Curty Frost invented corn about seven

(01:41:04):
years early with that just.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Do do Do.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Do into this that low, elasticly riff like yeah, into
this like bizarre, moaning, pained vocal, and that was incredible.
And again we were just every song we were as
they were going to, particularly those like you know, more
off the beaten track stuff. We were just so fucking
stoked and happy. And then something happened which I legitimately

(01:41:29):
never thought I would ever see happen, which is a
dying god coming into human flesh, from the Monotheist record,
which is I would say it's probably my favorite song
of all time like that. That's a position that that
song has had to me as almost my default answer
to that question for at least, you know, over a decade.

(01:41:53):
It's a song that they've it is one of those
popular cut Frosts. I think it might be the most
streamed Celtic Frost song because it was like the music
video song from that record, but they never played it
live because it's not a you know, a song like
ground you can kind of easily convey that live. It's
a fairly straightforward, riffy heavy song. A dyeing gog coming

(01:42:13):
to you with Flash is a slow burn. It's five
minutes of like really quiet to begin with and then
eventually building up something quite apocalyptic. But they never did
it live on the Monotheist run, and I never thought
they would do it live because Martin ri Kaine, who's
the other major guy in Celtic Frost, he passed away

(01:42:34):
a few years ago and there's a few songs on
the Monotheist record that he heavily sings parts of and
this is one of them, and it being this very
stripped back, quiet song with a heavily led Martin vocal.
They never did it live? Why should I believe they
ever do it live? Right? And then they decide to

(01:42:56):
go for the first time ever, you know, nearly twenty
years after the song's release, We're going to play you
give a Dying God Coming to You, Fashi. It's first
ever live outing. I got this. This is like my
favorite song that's ever been fucking written that I've I
never thought would ever be performed.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Like you could you imagine how fucking huge? Yeah, I
know it is, like yeah, like this this is.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
And again it was an incriticle like Muagan that stood
out in the set list for being this quieter moment
of like in the Monks and again still sounding when
it goes when it builds that like terrifyingly heavy, but
just as a kind.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Of like break from it all.

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
Its kind of like a like yeah, Coke Frost that
again on monop This was like coming back after a
few years off this record. They just they just were
willing to make those moves that were different and did
set them apart as like, like I say, a proper
legendary band.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
And you could feel the mood in the room at
that moment where against so many people that that song
does have an aura around it, and that song does
have a kind of a legend done to itself, and
the fact that probably no one ever thought they would
see it live. The amount of people I saw just

(01:44:14):
just talking about kind of like, you know, what an
honor it was to see that song given its first
ever live outing nearly twenty years after that at this
you know, in Camden, Right, It's just I almost though
you couldn't write it, you know, like I feel like
I'm in some weird privileged position of like how many
people out there have seen I don't know, like the

(01:44:35):
first the live debut of their probable favorite ever song, right,
Because that's a weird position to be in because it's
been out for twenty years, you know, and it has
to become that and it has to garner that legend.
But yeah, being there seeing that the first sort of
two three minutes of it, when it is the the
kind of the really just the cold, the absolutely like

(01:45:00):
super minimalistic but completely like freezing you in place start
of that song, I didn't know what to feel, you know.
It was just like some of the most centered I
have to like breathe every fucking second of the same
consumer as if it's ever happening again. I've maybe ever
felt seeing a song live and then into the second

(01:45:21):
part of the song, when it is just hammering on
that I am a dying god coming intohuman flesh hook,
tearing my voice to Pete you could probably it's been
a week, my voice is still a little fucked up.
And again seeing the people around me who maybe have
similar relationships to that song, doing the same thing. It
was one of the moments I will remember for the

(01:45:45):
rest of my life in terms of exactly where I was,
who I was surrounded by seeing a particular song live.
I just I cannot believe that they decided to give
that it's airing. It was just so special. And then
we had a bit more to go because we had
fucking was it to Throne Emperor and necromantical screams from
the old school stuff again, just getting crushingly heavy necromatical

(01:46:07):
screams probably my favorite track or to Megathery and absolutely
unbelievable song live. And then they have like ten to
fifteen minutes to go left the set and there's a
bit of ambient build up and I go oh. I
think this is Synagogue of Saturday Time, which is the
fifteen minute like you know, sort of semi closing track
on Monotheist, which they have done live with with Tripticon

(01:46:27):
over the years, but I hadn't seen them do it,
and having already seen them tick these various boxes right
then ending on so this sad, this is where you
you dipped out.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
I could have had to bow on this song basically it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
Yeah, but this is like maybe the heaviest Celtic from
song I'm seeing just how like unbearably oppressive and the
like that it basically has breakdown parts in it, but
with this terrifying uh just again into you vocal refrain
as you know this era of tom Ju Warrior particularly,

(01:47:04):
it sells in Yeah like that. This this was a
very very special set. It had moments in it which
I think are legitimately historic in terms of like here's
a song that a lot of people will say is
one of the best things ever written, first time ever
gonna play it live, But for me as a whole,
particularly then following that Blood Incantation set and how absolutely

(01:47:27):
on a high I was anyway, like this was like
two like complete ten out of ten.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
Yeah, just it was.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
It was just the most incredible end to the day.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
Yeah no again, like trip to one of those bands.

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
I don't know how big or how popular they actually are,
so it's like almost just like that like Roundhouse not
a small venue.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
You know that that's two thousand people in there.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
It feels right that they woul kind of use this
moment's going to be like, no, we are gonna know,
give this legend, this song that is like a cult
legend in their fans, give it its moment to shine
and make this set feel especially and then there's a
reason why they are headlining as the kind of the
legends of extreme metal. And I think they really cemented
and I mean we've barely done it, but you know,

(01:48:10):
in between every song, ugh, like every in between every
song and then just like just various uhs and grunts
and oohs, and I was gonna, like, people fucking love
this band like they are a like genuinely vital part
of harymale history. They maybe go unsung like coming for
us sometimes like in the wider circles, and it was

(01:48:31):
kind of just great to sort of get to see
a celebration of that, like this many years later and
it feel like a real special event.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
Yeah, Like you know that they're they're my favorite band,
but I think they are inarguably in the top ten
metal bands of all time, like in the group where
you would go Metallica, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, right
like County Frost. If you don't have them in that
group of ten, it doesn't It's not a matter of
personal taste, right, because you know you will have bands
you like more. But in terms of their actual significance

(01:49:02):
and their position in the cannon, they are in that
top ten metal bands of all time. They might be
the smallest most cult band of that top ten. I
don't know, you'd have to fill it out and do it,
but they're fucking in there, right. And this set, again,
of all the times I've seen the various you know,
Tom Juurior band, whichever kind of era of his music,
is leaning more on this set and the setting of

(01:49:25):
it and ending this day and everything is the most
they have felt like that the most they have. Yeah,
and you know they've always you know again the hell
Hammer set headline in the UK Deathfest or whatever, like,
you know, that was amazing. That was again, these are
the roots of what everything we love is. But the presentation,
the venue, the sense of occasion and again drawing those

(01:49:47):
songs out and stuff. This was the most I have
looked at them on a stage and gone, you look
and feel every bit like the defining metal band in
the world in the way that you feel that way
when you look at Slayer or Metallica or Iron Maiden
or whoever it is on a stage. This was the
most I have looked at This is the most I've

(01:50:09):
looked at my favorite band, and they have looked and
felt like the legends that they are, and they've always
felt like that. So it was It was big, it
was special. That was the end of Incineration Festival. I
should say as well. I did see the pre show
I went to. You know, much feels like I should
have said this at the top rather than much smaller
stakes after talking about Bloka Celtic Fross. But I saw

(01:50:32):
in the Black Heart the day before. I saw Woad,
who are like one of my favorite UK black metal bands.
They were sick as always. And there's this other band,
Believing Nothing who opened for them, who are on Church
Road Records. I think they've got like two songs out
at the moment, but they were like really impressive. They're
like it's like a full on, like noisy sludge thing,
like like I walked in and I swear it was
about ten minutes of feedback and the guy he had

(01:50:53):
a head torch but on his like chin like around
his neck, and that was like the main light in
the room. And when they end did he just yelled
some shit just for ages and then stepped off stage
at the black Heart and just walked out, just walked
down the stairs. Well, the crowd just sort of watched
him go and then applauded to a room which he'd left.
It was pretty hard, so you might hear more from them,

(01:51:15):
I don't know, in the coming months or whatever. But
that was good. But yeah, Incineration Festival as a whole,
I always liked these festivals, dipping in to see some
extreme metal bands popping around venues in Camden or whatever.
But obviously the sense of occasion to particularly the top
couple bands on this one made it really one to remember.
So I hope that everyone who was also there responded,

(01:51:36):
you know, similarly positively. TNM festival summer will resume, I guess,
you know, in a few weeks time with whichever one
comes next bit you know, outbreak or whatever it is.
But cheers for listening to us yap on about that
for a little while. Make sure you go and get
your bloodingcantation tickets for the October tour. That will be something.

(01:51:57):
We'll be back next week here. We'll be back in
a couple of days time doing our t and M
does Horror actually on Sinners and until Dawn as well.
We will be that soon enough with more big, big
music chats. But I have to say, even though it
was you know, it's a festival with you, it doesn't
feel like much gets bigger than what we've just spoken
about from those two bands in particular. So yeah, cheers everybody.

(01:52:19):
We'll see you again. Bye bye ooh

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