Hyperblasts: Outbreak Festival 2025 Review

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello everybody, and welcome back to That's Not Metal. This
is your weekly rock and heavy metal podcast. This week,
particularly I Guess hardcore podcast. I guess last week as
well when you look at our reviews, as I said,
it was indeed hot hardcore summer. But this is Hyperblast,
our weekly news show where we let you know everything
that you need to know that's gone on in the

(00:47):
past seven days. We let you know the releases that
are coming out that you need to be aware of,
and particularly in this sort of you know, summer window
of all of them. It also is basically a weekly
here's a massive live event that happened review show. This
is what we are doing last week if you have
not heard it. Last week was our big review show
for June, when, as I alluded to, there was a

(01:08):
lot of hardcore stuff. Obviously, we reviewed the Turnstile album.
We reviewed several records whether it be Kyan Nashi or
Malevolence that came out and all this stuff. A Hex's
Fessel as well for something that is.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Not just to mix up a little bit, like to.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Mix it up. Yeah, great stuff, something that happened prior
to us recording that show. But we had a lot
on our plate for that show, so we bumped it
back to this week. Is Outbreak Festival happened? It was
the same weekend as Download Festival. As I'm sure most
of you know, and Sam, as is customary, you were
at Outbreak Festival. It did work differently this year with

(01:45):
different wings of Outbreak Festival and different locations of it.
So we are going to get into what went differently.
I suppose what was the different you know, experience like,
So that is the meat that we will get to
at the end of this episode. Sam's from Outbreak. First
of all, my name is Parenhirsh. Before we do that,
we have got other more usual Hyperblast news and releases

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stuff to do. So that's all the prelude done. Let's
get stuck in. Unfortunately, the new story that you will
have seen most spread around this week is just a
single quote from mister Brent Hines, formerly of Mastodon, now
currently of Fiend without a Face, touring the UK with
c Ky this autumn. A quote from Brent Hines where

(02:30):
he replied to someone on Instagram saying I won't miss
being in a ship band with horrible humans about Master Don,
which I just look at that and I go, well,
Brent's gonna Brent. You know. Yeah, it's a shame that
that's a quote that is now in the world, but
it's also in some way like yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I mean this is he like of all the members
of Masson, he's one of you know, who has not
really had a filter when it comes to live when
it comes to quotes.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
That have gone out and then and landed him in
horror in the past. We don't know what went down.
I don't want to speculate.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Clearly the split wasn't as amicable as it was kind
of like presented as, and there is issues there.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I don't want to you know, d well on this.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
It's like some guys who will clearly at one point
close friends or something have had a big.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Falling out and that that sucks.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
And you know, I've seen not very many people because
I think most people know better and just go, yeah,
Brent's gonna Brent. I've seen people try and take sides
on this, either saying that like Brent was always like
the dickhead in the band, the anti social, you know,
not nice to people, dickhead. I've seen people say the
opposite and that that at least Brent is kind of honest,
and maybe the rest of Master at all are not
so nice or whatever. I'm with you, hands off, right, whatever.

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It's just a very memorable quote, is what we can
say about it. And it is unfortunate, but that's that's
what happens sometimes. The other news story that you may
have seen flown around that I guess, you know, the
half of the Metal inter that that is not talking
about Brent Hines is maybe the half that would be
subject to this, which is asking, Likexandria this week, who

(04:04):
rare time we're.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Going to cover them on the podcast, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Like?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
And again I think there's there's some part of this
that is quite unfortunate and not something you want to
dwell on. But people have been talking about it, asking
how Elexandria played at Warped Tour this past week. Warped
Tour interestingly has been doing a sort of live stream,
so a lot of sets have been available to the public,
and that is what made this particular thing a story

(04:28):
because asking Andrea played and Danny Warsknopp put in a
performance that is largely you know, has gone down as
being so bad that first of all, the band or
members of the band went on Instagram to simply say
I'm sorry. And then following this, it is alleged there

(04:48):
have been rumors that perhaps Danny Warsknopp is going around
deleting comments describing him in a negative light. And then
the main thing that I have seen in the fallout
of this, which is my favorite part of this, is
whatever is left of the asking out Andrea fan base
clamoring for Danny Warsnop to step down and to bring
back Dennis Stuff, which to me would be the most

(05:09):
beautiful outcome of all of this if we somehow had
like a every ten years repeating cycle that one of
these men disappears and Dennis Stuff, the hero we didn't
know we needed in twenty sixteen, would return to the fault.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I mean, I find this story funny, Like like part
of me was like, oh cool, So you're now just
realizing in twenty twenty five that Danny war Stop is
a terrible live vocalist. He is especially bad in this
Warp Talk performance. He's always been bad. This is just
you know, on another level, I my sympathy is kind

(05:46):
of minimum on this. I'm happy to poke fun and
go like ah, you got what you deserve for wanting
to see asking Alexandra in twenty twenty five at like
warp talk thing. But it is funny when, like I say,
the bab I think it is whatever to apologize and
the cause for Dennis stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I was like, no, you don't actually want that.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Do you?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Like you think you do, but no one actually wants
Dennis stuff back and asking it like it's.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Almost like no era of asking as Andrew is preferable.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, well, I mean like maybe yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
To describe the performance of it. And again when I
say some parts of this are maybe stuff you don't
dwell on, there's been a lot of people have you know,
in third things about this, and I think at the
very least it's clear to say from this Danny Wart's
not does not look happy, right, because it's not just
a bad live performance allah a Vince Neil or I
don't know what people might have said about Burt and

(06:42):
c Bell at various shows or whatever from Fear Factory.
It's it's different than that because it's he is clearly
not wanting to be there, right, Vince Neil is in
some weird way enjoying what he's doing and thinks he's good.
Danny Wart's not in This clip is the most visibly
checked out as one of the most.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Phoned informances I've ever seen, like anyone ever put in, like.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
So little effort has gone in.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
He's dressed for some reason like Kanye West dresses these days,
like the full on, like huge black sort of Parker
looking hoodie that looks like he's just sort of rolled
out of bed to be there. And he's walking around
in just a very like nonchalant sort of way. The
audio on the clip is very strange because there's clearly
like dubbed track yeah screams in place while he is

(07:33):
sort of like meandering around it and doing these different things,
just sort of very casually. And when it comes to
the big final breakdown type moments, he sounds like SpongeBob SquarePants.
That's what happens, is the kind of ah and as said,
visibly clearly unhappy, clearly does not want to be there.
It would like if if some news came in in

(07:55):
a few weeks time or something that Danny Walls not
had in fact left. I think, Exandra, you wouldn't be
surprised off the back of this clip, but it has
said the most visibly checked out performance, I don't want
to even you know, just kind of poke fun for
it too much longer, but has said it the way
it has been. The talk of a performance that en

(08:16):
mass has been greeted with, oh, this guy should step
down from that is quite notable and you know doesn't
come along too often. So those are as said the
two hot talk of the town bits of metal drama
or whatever that have been floating around this past week.
Got a little bit of new music, and I guess

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this first one is, you know, something of a biggie.
We have got that most hallowed of occasions for this
here podcast. No matter which side of the spectrum you
fall on, it has turned into a sort of like
a special moment for us collectively when this band drop
new music. We got a new Muse single this week.
No news of an album just yet, but I imagine this
will be on one coming soon. It is the first single,

(09:00):
and I presume that I guess the first album since
twenty twenty two's Will of the People album, which you
may remember for all sorts of reason. You may remember
it for the will of the people, the will of
the people. You may remember it for compliance, do you
remember it for the Halloween?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
It's Halloween, which is the best mus song in like
fifteen years or something.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
It's definitely the song from that album I have listened
to most frequently since that because it goes on my
Halloween play this, and so at least once a year
I will listen to that song. But you remember it
for we are fucking fucked all of this stuff that
went on with that last you know, several in a
chain of ridiculous albums music album. So we've got new ones.

(09:45):
The new song Unraveling, I think it's fair to say,
is not Muse at their most out there in terms
of all of those things that we might have just
been chuckling at, right Like, this is a fairly normal
bi meuse standards right there.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
It's an interesting sort of blend of sounds that you
can kind of point to as theirs. But uh, if
you are looking for the first MEW single from this
record to be an absolute laughathon and that's your main
reason for listening to news these days, I wouldn't say
this song is that, uh for myself MWS. Yeah, you know,
if you're a long time This is podcast, you will

(10:25):
know Muse are one of the most formative bands for me,
and like I am the guy who will absolutely absolutely
go to bat for you know, the classic era of
Mews being considered as some of the greatest rock music genuinely. Ever,
I have reached a stage where it's a bit of
a shame maybe how non plus I am or how
little I care about like a new Mew single, But

(10:45):
I do think this is pretty decent. You know. I've
listened to it maybe twice over the course of the
last few days since it came out, and the first
time I went, Okay, that's fine, and the second time
it is pretty you know, solid. It's got a you
know SYNTHI Muse of maybe a bit similar to simulation
Theory but not as ridiculous kind of synth way feel,
and then a big eight string almost gent rip because

(11:07):
they are clearly inspired by a lot of current contemporary
metal as well. In these last couple of albums, it's
it's decent.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, see, mus When a new new song comes along, now,
it's gonna be one of two things. It's going to
be shit and boring or shit and hilarious, And unfortunately
for me, this lands on the former. I think this
song is. It's all the things You're right. It is
that modern metal like like for me, it's particularly like
the mid Gordon Doom soundtrack, which again, like I fucking

(11:37):
adore that soundtrack, starting to like really start to regret
its existence.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
For how like that I started doing that about five
years ago when bringing the Horizon, we're doing it.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, I think that's fair enough.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
But I can hear now and I like that particular
like the symps with that Asian gen guitar and the
kind of like slightly industrial tones with it that that
feels well like when Mu's borrowing for here. I can't
really remember anything about this song. I've listened to it
a few times and the chorus doesn't stick. There's no
kind of like really like hilarious synth hooks, and there's

(12:07):
a silly voice at one point, isn't there.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I think there's a bit of a pitch shifty thing
at one point. Yeah, yeah, they remind you. It's quite
similar to Actually the first song that we got from
the last album was the song Won't Stand Down, and
that was the one where if you remember, there was
like a bit of a video teaser before it and
people were going oh my god, the new MW song
is going to have like a breakdown in it, you know,
And I think that's a fairly decent track. I feel

(12:30):
similarly about this. Maybe it doesn't have like the big
hype moments that won't stand down at its best sort
of did. But I will say this is the first
news single maybe in a little while, where it doesn't
feel like two or three songs jammed together. To me,
I would say this is fairly cohesive by contemporary mus standards.

(12:50):
As someone who generally enjoys the sound of news and
has more of a soft bot than you do, I
don't think this is bad. I think this is a
perfectly solid, decent news track. But I mean it's funny.
We've obviously we're abut to talk about Iffi Kiro in
a second as well, because well, I mean, I'll say
it here. Biffy Cleiro have announced their new album, which
is called Foutique, which is going to be out on
September the twenty six. We obviously got a single from that,

(13:12):
like a couple of weeks ago, and mus Ampithy Cleiro.
Both of these singles that have come out from them
I did think are decently Yeah, and neither of them
have particularly made a mega impression on me. For those
two great kind of you know, uh intricate whatever bands
of UK rock music in the twenty first century. The
lead singles from both these records, I would say, are

(13:34):
that's all right?

Speaker 3 (13:35):
I think if you are, you know, more sort of
soft on mus, then fair enough. I having this find
this song to be perfectly acceptable. I do think it's
just a little structure. You don't it's like quiet verse
riff or like it just with MWS.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I want mus to be fucking stupid. I like, I genuinely.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I think there's no word in like boring, sort of
like po face music.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
I mean, I hope there will be some stupidity on
the Albu and imagine they must be because they're mentally.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, and that's things like give me Matt Bellamy in
the ridiculous sunglass with the qtar making stupid noises, like like,
I want that from mus at this point because at
least that is funny.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I'm not gonna say that. I think that's good. That's funny.
This to me.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
I just found this again maybe saying shit is I
found it quite boring.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, I would say it's shockingly cohesive and works, but
maybe it isn't electric. We also have news of the
new Perturbator album that is going to be out on
October tenth. It's called Age of Aquarius. It's the follow
up to twenty twenty one's Lustful Sacraments record, which is
the one where he went like super goth and I
loved that record, so I'm excited for this. There are

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guest spots on the record from alcest Author and Punisher
and Greta Link, which all sounds pretty cool. And theres
a song that's come out with this announcement called Apocalypse
Now which features Ulva, So that's set. All sounds pretty
good indeed, so new Perturbator coming. Then our last bit
of new music, new single to talk about is I
guess just a curiousit and the kind of thing that

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will be banded about in the press because of who
is involved. Marshmallow He of well big Marshmallowhead fame, obviously
one of the biggest I guess you'd just say DJs
of the last decade or so, famous for as said,
wearing a big silly costume has maybe dipped his toe
into what you would certainly sometimes rocky music made me

(15:24):
more generally what you could say as alternative music at
times or another. He's done songs with a data. Remember
he's done songs with churches if you want to sort
of feature that as part of it. So it wasn't
really a surprise when there was a new story that
Marshmallow has launched actually his own pop punk band. The
band is called Underbrook, and I think he's the singer
of it, which would make this video the first time

(15:46):
I've ever seen what Marshmallow, the man underneath the mellow
actually was, Like.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
He could be any one of them and I would
not know, and.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Him being the singer, because I was like, it'd be
weird if you know, Marshamists had a pop punk.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Band who he was the basis, Like, that would be
a nod one.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Like yeah, no, I think judging by it lists the
other members of the band, I'm going to presume that
he is the singer. He's got a bit of like
a bleach blonde hair, looks a little bit like Parker
Cannon in like you know, certain eras of the story
so far, which makes a lot of sense because I
was expecting this to be total shit, right like because
a huge you know, mainstream DJ who his collaborations with

(16:25):
you know acts I do, like have not personally been
to my taste. I think it was before they went
utterly dogshit, but at the time it was like the
worst of Data Remember song.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
It was the turning point.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, like the first like flavor of a Data remember
going to complete shit.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I think his song with Churches is like the worst
Churches song. It's out of character for them. And I
was expecting, oh, you know, he probably does authentically like
pop punk, but he's going to get Travis Barker or
machine Gun Kelly or fucking someone. This is not that,
And this song is really unremarkable to the point that like, yes,
we would absolutely not be talking this with any particular

(17:01):
degree of seriousness if it was not Superstar Marshmallow. But
what this sounds like is basically any of those sort
of post stories so far could be signed to pure
noise whatever type pop punk bands. And just the fact
that it's not a like, you know, Travis Barker produced
Nightmare made me go, that's better than I thought it

(17:22):
would be. Fair enough.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I was like, oh, drums, actual drums that don't have
to be played at I like, yeah, no, I only
this is amazing. I think it is pretty authentic to that.
You're right, post Toy so far, like knucklep Up, Real Friends,
Yeah off, any of those bands that kind of like
slightly emo tinged pop punk.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think, like genuinely not the worst pop punk so
I've heard the show.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I like, I don't again, it is not the most
remarkable thing, but for a again mega popstar and tone
to it, there feels like a level of authenticity. He
does actually know listen to a lot of this music
that you can kind of like do it about feeling
like pop star cous playing pop punk band like when
Machine Gun Kelly.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Especially because the contemporary reference points right, we've just compared
it to the story so far and stuff like that,
and it's not just I used to listen to Blink
Cornity two when I was like fourteen. Yeah, So this
song again, I don't think it's anything really that noteworthy,
but I mean, like, there was a good Charlotte song
that came out this week as well, and this is
better than that song. And the fact that it's like
almost Marshmallow of all people is now showing up a

(18:30):
lot of the pop punk bands with this just because
it sounds like you know, fairly, I don't know grassroots
about it is like quite the turn. So there you go.
That band under Brook to the point that, like I said,
if someone was really into pop punk and said they
really like this one, I go like, yeah, okay, fair enough.
It's far from the worst stuff I've heard in that lane.
So there you go. We have a handful of live

(18:54):
music announcements to talk about, a prelude of course, to
our discussion about Outbreak. In a while, it has been
basically confirmed, I imagine probably Friday, as this episode goes out,
I imagine there'll be a big announcement about it. Thought
i'd include it here because it's been floating around the
internet pretty openly. It looks like Turnstile are going to
be doing at the very least some UK dates in

(19:17):
November in pretty sizable venues as you you know, maybe
not so sizable for Turnstile, but the level you'd expect
Turnstile to be at. They are doing Alexandra Palace and
they are doing the Depot Mayfield in Manchester, which is
the place that Outbreak was hosted that one year a
couple of years ago before it moved to the BC
in Manchester. These are both am I right in saying

(19:40):
that these are both like all standing or like they're
amongst the largest primarily standing venues in the country, which
is you imagine why they would have chosen these ones.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, Ali Pally is an arena, but it's all standing.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
It's like eight thousand something like that capacity, which again
this is turnstile like headliner like headlining an eight as
a FASTI arena.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
And like EI their own probably show like and it
feels normal.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
The at this point is the crazy part, and again
we'll kind of get more into that in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
But yeah, uh, definitely excited about this.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, I'm gonna say this looks like the day after
Damnation in outbreat But then I realize that Damnation is
actually the week after that, so maybe not even have
that concern if you are. But yeah, it turns out
I imagine as said, by the time we listen to this,
they'll probably be a more official announcement of some very
big UK dates, and maybe they'll even be more on
top of that, who knows. Speaking of Damnation, I suppose
I was surprised to see this, considering they are one

(20:35):
of the big, big draws and big names at Damnation.
But Death Heaven have announced a really sizable UK and
European tour I guess around Damnation, but it's basically like
the whole month. It kind of starts with them in
the UK for Damnation and a couple of other dates
around that, and then they go all over Europe and

(20:57):
then they come back to the UK and I and
at the end of it as well. So if you are,
for example, in Liverpool or Dublin or Belfast at the
beginning of December, Death Heaven are going to be playing
around there as well. Fellow Damnation booked band Portrayler Guilt
are going to be support act on that whole tour,
which works really really well, doesn't it. That's a fucking
good pairing.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's a tasty package.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Like yeah, yeah, again, this is a preempting of something
we'll talk about later because I know you saw Death
Eavan around Outbreak, Yes, yeah. I like how the poster
for this tour looks like a hardcore poster. It looks
like a pain of truth.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Like Death Heaven.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
The hard coreification of Death Heaven is happening in front
of our eyes, like they're going to do a hardcore
Arab next I'm sure if it I.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Wouldn't turn it down, and that'd be interesting to hear.
But I mean, they're playing the Arts Club in Liverpool.
That's really fucking exciting. I was excited to see Death
Heaven at Damnation anyway, but there are loads more opportunities
to do so throughout the end of this year. Another
band who have announced a big UK tour is the
band who we mentioned once or twice on the show

(22:01):
called Pale Face Swiss, who have announced a tour for
when is this January of twenty twenty six, which is
a bill consisting of them static Dress and stick to
Your Guns opening Porta to your Guns. I'm still opening
these things for a bands who have just appeared in
the blink of an eye. U this is, I guess
the discussion. They're doing some pretty big dates in the UK.

(22:24):
They're doing Manchester Academy. They're doing a venue I've never
heard of Inlandon called Troxy Where is that?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
It's as I've been in a few times. It's a
nice venue.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
It's kind of like this, it's kind of were the
outther way, but it's the sort of the midway point between.
It's the only venue that exists as a kind of
like point between the Roundhouse and Brixton where it's I
think like four.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Thousand capacity something like that.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
So it's one of those kind of like fater venues,
but it's a nice, nice venue, just weirdly out the way.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, and I guess this is just another opportunity to go.
Palees Face Swiss. The first time I ever heard of
pale Face Swiss at the very beginning of this year.
I feel like it was one of the very first
release weeks of the year, like January third or tenth
or something, pale Facewist released an album and it was like,
you know, pushed to my email inbox and all this
stuff quite a bit, and I went, I've never heard
of this band, but okay, you know, clearly popular newer band.

(23:16):
They're maybe you know, they're on that sort of metal
core to death course spectrum, maybe leading a little bit
more to the death call thing. And then I've noticed
over the courses. Yeah. Again, we didn't review it back
in January because I was just like, it's a metalcore band,
all right, but they're really fucking big, really popular, And
this is another one of a band who I think
have been around for a little a few years maybe,
but all of a sudden this year, while I wasn't
looking again, in the blink of an eye, have gone

(23:38):
from a you know very much an also run not
pushed to my sphere of interest type band to one
who have been really blowing up over the course of
this year. They're everywhere and now they're doing a really
big tour with you know bands we'd maybe say have
been on our radars a little bit longer.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Opening for them, Yeah, like I've have been keeping on passes.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
They was like they're pretty good that, you know, the
bits of pieces I've heard of them over the years,
but I was never kind of like, oh my listen
and then yeah, it was it was kind of this year.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I was like, they're really popular all of us.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Like it feels like like and so like the mid
sized medical bands like Europe, there's just a bunch of
them coming from you that was like suddenly got like
weirdly popular, and it's like that this is happening, and
it's just like I can't keep track of it anymore.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
But I look away and.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Then I'll turn around and then suddenly, you know, imminence
or like Landmarks or whatever they're they're they're you know,
playing three four thousand capacity venues in London. It's kind
of like, I'm so just detached from that now. It's
it's interesting to see though.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, Pilfe Swiss are heavier than those bands. I would
say they are again, they're more sort of a slip
knotty death corese sort of thing. I walked past them
at Mystic Festival. They were and they were in a
slot like above straight from the Path or Employed to
Serve or someone like that. And they were again in
the same stage, a slot above them, and they pulled
a much bigger crowd than like, you know, either one
of those bands would have, and I was like, this
is really going somewhere. And I feel like, again, their

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record coming out in January, I sort of I feel
like we maybe should have reviewed it just to a
sort of like assess what was going on with it.
We didn't because my brief assessment is it's fine, it's
not really you know, lighting my World on fire, and
you know, us reviewing a metal core album and being like, yes,
all right, it's not a tremendous event. But they are

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clearly another band who have really like made an actual
play for things this year, and yeah, very prominent UK
tour with some you know bands you may know along
with them later this year. Over in the US to
our Atlantic brethren, AFI have announced a big tour for October.
Fuck You. Then, Queens of the Stone Age have announced

(25:47):
that they are going to be taking their sort of
Catacombs type set up, which is the more stripped back
into you know, acoustic reworkings of songs and stuff. They
are going to be taking that on tour across the US,
and Creator are going to be headlining twenty twenty six's
Maryland Deathfest with a eighties album Deep Cuts set themed

(26:08):
around you know, pleasure to kill and extreme aggression and
stuff like that, which is pretty fucking gnarly, isn't It
sounds pretty good that Maryland Deathfest bill already got an
old school set from Grave, it's got a first three
albums set from Dying Fetus, It's got one of the
guys from Sarcophago performing Sarcophago, so it looks good as
it always does. But yeah, Creator now appearing at the

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top of that bill with a Eighties deep cut sets
that very tasty Okay, before we move into the outbreak discussion,
let's finish up the proper hyperblast portion of this with releases.
So last week when we had our reviews show, the
big prominent release that came out last week is obviously
one that we did, which was Malevolence's album, But elsewhere

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some other records that we did not mention that you
may want to hear about. One comes from Cryptopsy, the
Tech Death Legends, who are still kind of growing strong
and have a bit of a resurgence. Maybe lately they've
got a record out called an Insatiable Violence. It wasn't
the busiest or most high profile week outside of again
maybe like a Malevolence. There's the kind of proggy cult

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heavy metal band helms Deep releasing an album called Chasing
the Dragon. Then again this is really fucking weird in niche.
But the sort of gore grind band Haggis. That's like Haggis,
but with a you releasing a record called Destination Extinction.
That's proper silly, obscene, extreme style, silly voice goregrind. Then
we had a kind of like long form blackened funeral

(27:35):
doom record I suppose to call it from a man
called Witherra called Shadow with that Horizon, and then there
were a couple EPs. One was I think a surprise EP.
It showed up and I thought, oh, this is interesting.
One from a pond Stone, the very good sort of
melod death played by hardcore kids band. Basically they put
an EP called End Time Lightning. I think it was
mixed by like Dan Swano and some of these legendary

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figures from that scene. And it also the main fucking
draw is as a cover of man O War's song
Outlaw on It Louder than Hell representation from a pon
Stone that is so fucking real I can't tell you.
Absolutely salutes and hats off. And of course some mighty
hills for a Potterstone's cover of man Oar. And then

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there was the band Valdrin as well, who are sort
of like you know, keyboard d black metal band. They
put out a EP called Apex Violator. Moving on to today,
the twenty seventh of June, a little bit Busier Week
one album that we reviewed last week that is now
out and available for you to hear, and we suggest
you do it because it's not every day that you

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get a fucking new Dead Guy record it's thirty years
as we've got the Dead Guy record and in our
review we were talking about all the mad things that
have happened inside thirty years to make that span of
time really sink home. The new Dead Guy album, their
second LP ether is called Near Death Travel Services Elsewhere. Again,
maybe not a super high profile week, but there is
a number of releases that we could tell you about.

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One comes from the great German mellow death metalcore band
Heaven shall Burn. They've got a record called HiMAT the
German you know thrash legends Sodom have also got a
record out called The Arsonist. So it's a big day
for Vacun Festival and German Blood Vulture. This is a
new band. It's a Guarsenio Hall from the Two Minutes

(29:22):
to Late Night thing, but this is like, you know,
ditching the silly makeup. This is actually like a serious
record from from that guy called So it's Blood Vulture.
The records called Die Close and it's sort of like
Goffy Vampirey Doom and it's actually a really good record.
So that one is out and available for you if
you want more old school doom. Johann Lanquist, The Castle

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which is the solo project of Johann Lanquist, the singer
of Candle Mass, and a self titled record called Johann
Lanquist The Castle is out today. More it looks weird
when you write it down.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Twice self out.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
The record from Johann Lanquist The Castle, which is Johann
from Candlemass. Then we've got more contemporary toom King Witch,
one of the many many many many many many many
Witch bands. That record is called three a record from
a bag called Third a Lance, which is like progressive
epic heavy metal. I suppose fires on the mountain side.
Speaking of like newer death core bands, I suppose there's

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one that have turned up on my radar more recently
called Killing of a Sacred Dear I guess named after
the great John Lanquist. That's Candleness, the Algoslanthemos, that's the
guy I'm gonna say, movie from but a decade ago.
That record is called a Visage of a Mangled Body.
Then we've got Greek death with Dying Love, which are
I guess sort of like emo folk or something. It's

(30:45):
that on death wish anyway. Then all men unto me requiem.
If you have seen ashen Spire Live. This is the
project of their live frontman Ryland, and it's very kind
of sort of neo classical, noisy avant garde think linguering,
nota and that kind of style of stuff. Hurt some

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interesting things about this record, so I'm curious to check
this out when it's out. Then into death Metal Inhuman Condition,
which is the band made up of like former Massacre members,
a record called mind Trap, old school black metal, Lord
Belil Unholy Trinity. A couple of EPs that are out.
One comes from the Swedish Shining that is the like

(31:27):
cut yourself and go mental with Edginus.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
One.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
They have got an EP which I think is I
guess offcuts from their latest album because the album cover
is a very similar style called Divided Your Stand and
United You'll Fall. A hardcore EP I think is that
one like hard Law Records, Cosmic Joke Force perspective. This
is like quite old school punk style hardcore, has a
bit of melody and stuff as well. Then as a
live album from Botch, you know, the now once again

(31:51):
departed Botch. But this is their live album they promised of,
you know, encapsulating their really great reunion tour they did
called six, one, five, two, four, And then finally there's
a compilation of seven albums from Bruce Springsteen tracks to
the lost albums. Have you got time tomorrow? So I'm
to fit in seven albums of Bruce Springsteen.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Off cuts, not not all tomorrow, but this next hyper
class you know, alongside some of the other live reviews
will be coming back round to Are we sure to
let you know which of the lost Springsteen albums?

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Don't worry?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
It's like Lordie, isn't it? So that is actually good? Hey,
Now what would I rather listen to? Seven albums of
Lordie or seven albums of Bruce Springsteen?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Karen, Karen, I mean one of those experiences.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Sound's more fun y Springsteen.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I don't know anyway.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
For once, seven albums of off cuts, that's a lot.
That is you're really round up for this edition of Hyperblasts.
And from here we're going to talk about an event
that happened not last weekend, but the weekend before. But
of course we had to get around to it. Outbreak Festival.
Now Outbreak this year, I'm sure you all no Outbreak

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it's the biggest hardcore event in the United Kingdom. It's
in recent years grown to be one of the biggest
hardcore events in the world. I think it's fair to say,
you know, there's obviously there's several America that are like
the real you know draws, But in terms of the
European or the global hardcore calendar, bands from across the
world now no Outbreak and flock to it. And it

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has not only boomed in the last few years, it's
changed location and venue and stuff. Actually more often than not,
like almost every other year, it's gone somewhere else. The
last couple of years it has taken place at the
Beec in Manchester. That was still true this year there
was a two day I guess version of Outbreak sometimes

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it's three days. A two day version of Outbreak that
occurred in Manchester in the Beec. The third day of
Outbreak did not take place at the Beec in Manchester.
It took place in London. Sam, what was the name
of the park where it was in London? Which one
was it? Uh?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Victoria Park?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Victoria Park. I saw Judas Priest there in twenty eleven.
Hell yeah, But there was a London edition of Outbreak.
It was put on as part of Like Another Like
Companies series of concerts.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Festival thinking it's a new sort of like branded sort
of one of these like UK Day festival things where
they have like for a week or so, there is
a different day fest each on each day kind of
like with a sort of day cut around the headline
or something like Charlie XCX was the day after Outbreak,
so it was all like Yes, sants Ax and stuff
like that and raves sort of stuff, and they had

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a more Indie day. As often with the case of
these things, they have their kind of like designated.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Rock Day, I guess you.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Could say, is kind of like what a lot of
these sort of festivals normally do, and for whatever reason
they decided to collaborate that with Outbreak Festival this year
and have what I'm guessing is basically Outbreak curate a
day of this festival.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
It's a bit like Outbreak does British summert or something
in that regard case. That's why I remember what a
Brits summertime being being like back in the day. But
this is obviously hardcore has now grown to such a
place where they can like take over and do that thing.
So Outbreak London is a thing that happened this year.
Many bands played both the Manchester and the London events,

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but there are also some bands who were London only,
some bands who were Manchester only. Sam this year, you,
I guess just out of convenience is close to you?
Why not? And I guess you know the biggest band
of all of them were the headliner for London. You
went to Outbreak London. So what we've got through you
this year is a different style Outbreak report of telling

(35:42):
us not about the usual thing of what Outbreak is
like up north, but what this sort of new I
would imagine probably one year only version of it. Maybe
they'll find a different way of doing Outbreak London or something.
But certainly this again part of the extra concert sort
of layout that we were just talking about with the
different company involved. I imagine this might be a one

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off event.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
I mean, I will say for the kind of concerns
about ticket sales, it was busy. It wasn't so busy
that you felt like this was like sold out and
you were queuing an hour to get food and an
hour for the toilet and all that sort of stuff.
But it was it was nicely busy, and by the
time you know, Turnstile rocked up the headline. It was
a huge crowd and I felt like I was watching

(36:27):
like Turns as a legitimate festival headliner. I've seen slam
dunk headliners with smaller crowds, and what Turnstile called that,
I felt like what felt like a smaller crowd. By
all accounts, it seems to have gone relatively well doing this.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Again. I don't know that the fund ticket sales like.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I know there was a promotion for they did at
one point which made everyone think, oh, they've not sold
any tickets, but that was like loaded it up for
all of the dates.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Who knows.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
But what I will say is this, this, this, this
very much felt like another festival with a line up
that Outbreak had had their say over.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
This is what I was going to get onto because
I know, so I guess you know, we might have
a bit of a shorter Outbreak report than we do
other years because you only went to one day. There
are other bands who are playing the Manchester Outbreak that
then came and played shows in London, and I know
you saw a couple of those, so we'll throw those
in at the end for sort of posterity of everything
outbreak related, but you know, a one day outbreak essentially

(37:21):
for you, the question I was going to have is
how much did it feel like an outbreak because, as
you say, the band's very outbreak. But when people think outbreak,
particularly if you've been obviously, but even if you've just
watched videos or something, a certain mental image will appear
in your eye, particularly from the last couple of years
of the you know the now the outdoor set up

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that exists at the BEEC. When I went last it
was indoors, but the you know, stage invasions, the mosh waiver,
your golden wristband to get in, the kind of you know,
front middle section with access to the getting up on
stage and stuff like that. Stage dives outbreak in it's
you know, purer form maybe you could say is essentially

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a massive arena style our stage as your stage style
hardcore show. Outbreak London did not work like that. So
the question I would have for you is how much
of an outbreak esque experience was atbreat London?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
To me again, line up wise, it did feel like
a break way less hardcore, I will say there was
a lot less hardcore on the London So because Outbreak.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
The thing about Break, it's a hard festival.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
It's gone way beyond hardcore at this point, and it
has done for a couple of years now, and I'm
not just talking you know, hip hop.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
There was a lot more shoe gaze and.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
At rock and that sort of stuff like this year
is abreat particularly the stuff a lot more music you
maybe associate with like a Pitchfork or needle Drop, sort
of like crowd. There was a lot of that quite
like trendy contemporary shoe gaze sort of like stuff on there.
So that was kind of interesting sing and there was
that felt like that was a lot more booked for

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the London day. It was kind of divide so that
LONDONITORI had free stages. You had your big outdoor main stage,
You had your big second stage in a tent, which
is where you know the band you were almost going
to go, well, that's an outbreak band.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
They were on that stage.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
And then you had a tiny little tent where it
was a lot of the kind of like shoe gaze
and kind of like trendy and newer stuff. That was
that if you're into like what Pitchfork and that sort
of things are pushing you were going over there, so
that they again all the stages they had barriers. There
was no stage invasions, there was no stage dives. Outbreak
basically said from the start there is going to be

(39:34):
a barrier. We can't do anything about it because it's
not our festival. And so I think a lot of
people kind of just went, you know what, fine, but
it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
On that one.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
The thing with the London was the selling point was
you're getting a turnstile set it basically boiled downstairs. Do
you want to go for the real outbreak experience or
do you want turnstyle and me for the convenience. And
I really wanted to see turnstile. I went without Break.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
London this year.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I will say, really nice festival site, very nicely sort
of laid out, lots of shade.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
It was a scorching hot day.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
And I will say my one gripe and this maybe
it could be more clearly communicated that all of the
water and all that was in cans and everything.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
There was no single plastics.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
You could bring a bottle in with you apparently, but
like again that wasn't so I've got and I was like,
I'm gonna just get bottle water in there and I'll
refill it. And then finally out that I was like, oh,
I've got to carry a can around with me and
I can refill it. But it was just like a
corporate festivals in London. Yeah, and the point of that
is like a environmental reason. But it was a nice festival,
was nicely laid out again, plenty of shade. I will say,

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the third stage, the little tent which had like no
openings around it, an absolute sauna.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Like yeah, I was getting a lot of like war
report basically people being like I have to brave going
in this tent and then emerging, however long later as
just walking flame balls. Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
But that was mainly on the first stage the second stage.
And that said, if you were mohing, you were probably
having that similar experience. But we were kind of like
stood bit more sensibly because you know, it's like a
more typical festival with open side, so it wasn't like
just trapping heat with nowhere to go. And also the
other point on the third stage, which was sticking point
for a lot of people, and I know for one

(41:19):
cent in particular, a lot of people had to miss
out on one of the big drawers of the festival,
which was this third stage was very small, and it
did operate on a queuing system which did get to
one in, one out at various points throughout the day,
and you would kind of have to get there for
the end of the previous band before.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Still killed Goodwill, but like you get got on of
people in there.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
But I know for sunny Dale real Estate, who were
headlining that, the queue for that was huge.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
When I got there before.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Whoever was on before them finished, and so I was like, oh,
there's gonna be a lot of people who are going
to be listening to sunny Dale real Estate from outside
of tent rather than seeing them. So that seems to
be like the one sticking point was that third stage,
which again maybe you could have organized bit different, but
it did very much feel like like most post stuff
on the main stage, hardcore bands on the second stage,

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melodic trendy, emo, shoe gays whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
On the first days. That's how they kind of landing
on it.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
But that's kind of like the sort of the preamble
set up like it was your more typical outdoor day festival.
It wasn't Outbreak festival by all accounts. The Outbreaking North
seems to be a wonderful time. I've seen lots of
videos of insane stage invasions and stage dives, and I
was like, yep, that looks that Outbreak.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
I'm glad everyone there had had a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yes, so basically you could almost picture it or imagine
it as like if Slam Dunk or British Summer Time
or one of those very things just had a hardcore
themed day and they took over, which you know is
fun and novel than itself, I suppose, So in brief,
I suppose for some of these starter ones and then
building up as we go on, and then again maybe

(42:54):
mop up a few leftovers afterwards at the end, let
us know how your day went and what you saw
at this you know, quite novel famed Outbreak London, So
kick off my.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Dad was actually kind of it was a trio of
Huegate's bands, is what I saw to start the day.
First up was on the third stage we saw Broken
there and it was they are gutting a body of water.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I believe that's like.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
That's the name I'm looking at right now. Good Name.
Let's say good Name is a strange name.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
I quite like them on record.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
I think they're you know, quite cool, like again, very
training contemporary Hugas band. Live it didn't work for me,
which was kind of frustrating. So the main thing when
I'm live is all they literally all stood back to
your sort of facing into each other, playing the songs,
kind of staring down, and then in between songs they'll
do like a kind of like a little electronic remix

(43:45):
of a popular song or something like that.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
And I was kind of like the bridget it's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
The vocalist, his voice was a little bit I don't
know again if it was like the sound on that
stage this thing out. His voice wasn't really carrying even
in that small tent, And I think that's where again
it didn't really work, because again, what you're watching is
four people stood around, so the only person who can
actually really see the face of is the drummer.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Everyone else is like stood with their back to you
or their head down kind of just playing.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
And so it was a weirdly like flat sort of
first start to the day again call back on record.
I don't know if they're like again that they they're there.
They're a very young band. I got in watching them
that I feel like I'm older than most of them
is in them, but uh live it was just a
little bit flat. Next up again on that stage was

(44:31):
a Feeble Little Horse again. Band name yeah very pretty
shoe Gays, like as you can imagine from a band
like name like that. I thought they were much better
they did, you know, kind of like have a bit
more presence to them, and it is, you know, really nice,
pleasant emo melodies, really lush guitar tones.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Like.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
I thought they were very good again, not the most
kind of like groundbreaking, like mind blowing step, but I
was kind of like sweltering in this ten And this
is the one thing with the I was like, I
wish I was seeing them in a different setting while
I wasn't like dying of sweat. Second band on the day,
like because it was like this is really nice, pleasant
music and I'm like melting over here in the corner.
But I thought they were very good again. They they

(45:14):
fit in that trendiar side of things, but that was.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Kind of like, yeah, cal we're picking up.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Then it was over to the main stage to watch
Fleshwater again, continuing on the sort of.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
A jus thing. Flesh Water are great though they were really.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
You say, you say the shoe gaze thing. They are
like this. I mean again, I haven't heard these two
other bands, I can't say, but flesh Water very much
are based in hardcore.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Well this is this was the difference is they are
doing in that kind of like shoegaze or rock sort
of thing. But you know you're watching a hardcore band
doing it because they are attacking. They are like, yeah,
going for it, and I was kind of like, there
we go.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
This is picking up the energy.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Some more.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
And it was a real kind of like kicking kicking
to gear like things. The first two bands I wanted
to see stuff I hadn't seen yet because I no
like Dug Church on the second stage during FEEB Little
Horse and I'm like drug Church and they're always really good.
But I was like, let's go watch some some other
things who are coming around here for the first time
to sort of get an idea.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
So that's why then they end up not watching drug Church.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
But again, by all accounts, drug Church, they were very
good their drug churchs they always are. But flesh Water
just really like the most high energy a shoe gay's
band can possibly get, really because it's you know, members
of Vein kind of like doing this, like there's a
bit of the deaf tonesy thing going on with them
with some of the big chunky riffs, and it's just
more high energy and less kind of like it's not

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nearly as timid as like they are gotting a body
of water. And they like they felt like on the
main stage it felt right where like they felt like
a big band kind of commanding this again huge outdoor
festival stage. Bless what was still band you know when
they're doing they still play pretty small venues because they
like it's where they come from. But they felt really
at home kind of controlling this growing crowd on the

(46:59):
main stage, each with again just like big and like
as again as close to like mighty and like rowdy.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
As Shoe Gaze can possibly get.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
But that was a real like that was where the
day sort of kicked up into gear and where things
kind of like I say, like first of all kick things.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Up a gear. The next band just blew the sort
of the day away.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
They were like such a shot of like, oh here
we fucking go, and that band is a gang called Speed.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Everyone just looks food.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
For like thirty minutes, just having the best time, like
let's spit is such a norm because they are just
the most like no nonsense. Again we said in the
on there's you know, a couple of cool little deviations
with the flutes and stuff like that, more flutes than
hardcore later to come, but like Speed are just such
an explosive ball of energy you're watching on this stage.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Their vocalist, he does not stop.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
He is just like the most relentless, intense and carries
mac hardcore vocalists.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Where again, like I I love Speed for just kind
of being a hardcore band.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Like at the core, it's bouncy risks, it's beat downs,
it's fast bits. You've got vocalists who is leading you
into battle. He is like a talible on that stage,
commanding everything. And they again they feel like a hard
caband who are looking to go the totlefik kind of gang.
We're gonna tess this bigger, but we're also gonna still
gonna be a hardcore band doing it. And that's what

(48:28):
makes them so exciting to watch is that there's no
instruction of melodies for that it's just like beatdowns, fast bit,
where is your fucking style demonstrated right now? Like for
the beatdown, and you know, the flute comes out there
for the first test and the pop on the flute
like from the crowd and he starts playing the flute.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
It's guy, It's like everyone's waiting for that moment and.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
It's kind of their one bit right now, there is
there one bit that.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
But like even before that, I was just having the
best time watching them because the just explosion of.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Energy and just swaggering hardcore. It went to speed.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
It never feels, you know, like you've got this sort
of tough guy posturing. He's almost like crying in between stags.
When were talking about like where harvesting was like, you know,
I've been doing this for so long.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
I've been playing this tevens.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Now I'm in this massive fucking tempt playing to thousands
of you and we're all here because of hard and
it just makes them so much more engaging and like
easy to root for because he's so like on charismatic
and the energy just doesn't stop.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah, I feel like I wasn't in the pit for it.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
I know a lot of people said the pit was
just fucking going and going and going. Yeah, man, we're
getting hardcore bands who are like doing big things while
still being a hard band, and that that to me
is just fucking cool.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Again.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Didn't get seen Knock Loose at Outbreak this time, but
because they were headline on that stage. But by all
accounts again they did very much a similar thing to
like when they leveled Bricks and Academy in Manchester, like
and like, actually just heavy as hell hardcore bands and
big things is something that I'm se in on and
from here on in it was pretty much fucking Britain
until the end of the day once Speed got going,

(50:03):
including the next set, which was fucking unbelievable, and that
was Model Actress on the Really, I'm.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Really glad to hear it.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Obviously, we reviewed that record recently and I'd heard a
lot about how kind of cool they were live, and
I thought, well, you know, we both really liked this
record that's come out. Yeah, even though obviously I'm not
seeing them, I'm excited for Sam to go and see
it and then talk about what it was like.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, like them again. I've complained about the temperature in
that stage. On that first stage, this was the one
where it almost felt right to be watching Model Actress
in this like packed out sweat tent, and this is
the one I did, actually didn't plan to, but I
kind of just got dragged into the crowd and then

(50:47):
spent the entire set just bouncing up and down with
these pulsating intense red lights, driving around with like everyone
else to this like post punk dance punk sort of thing.
The vocalist his name is Gone Black from my head.
He was in the crowd for like so much of
the set. So they opened with the opening track of
the new album, and it was gonna that like, yeah,

(51:11):
pulse and big kind against someone was like he's extremely
sassy gay man vocalist, like and again, like the sexuality
of that is a huge part of like model actures,
and in his live persona and performance he dials up
the sort of the camp like he is whacking and
voguing and strutting around that stage and then coming into

(51:32):
the audis and in the same and that was where
I kind of just got like when he came down
to us, it was kind of.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Soch fun and that's what sort of carried me forward.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
And then I was just in it and I was
kind of like this is insane, how like I'm just
sort of this constant motion, like no one stopped bouncing
for thirty minutes, no matter how hot in that stage was,
everyone was caught up in that moment and there was
a really strong queer presence in that crowd. And again
a lot of people have clearly taken the the like

(51:59):
these songs from Latters to Heart and are The performance
can be quite fun of points, and then when he
needs to, he really dials up the intensity. Where again
it's not necessarily the most solicarious sort of thing, but
when he is just leering out of these sort of
songs and these sort of like vocal manage to passes
that getting repeated and repeated for like cinderellawies the bit

(52:20):
about like wanting a Cinderella birth to part, and he's
like stalking the crowd at that point, getting right up
in people's face. Can't say enough good thing about how
like Core Model actuers were such a like from They're
coming back later this year, I think for an actual
like headline tour, And I recommend to anyone, if you like,
if you liked that album at all, go into in

(52:41):
live because it was such a cool experience to see
I left that stage just like soaked, like from how
much sweart. I was in eight cans of water afterwards,
so I was like, need to rehydrate.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I was spent.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
But it was one of my favorite sets of the day,
probably my second favorite, third favorite after the sort of
the sort of the two top end acts.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
But yeah, really.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Fucking incredible thing set from Model Act is if you
are curious, go see them when they're coming around.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
I think it's November time.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
I'm going to get a ticket for that, so I
want to see like a full headline version of not
just that kind of half an hour taste or I
got an outbreak London. Yeah, really incredible, awesome, but it
was then it was over on the yes, on the
main stage. I did go catch a little bit of
Danny Brown.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yeah, so obviously one of the maybe one of probably
one of the most requested, but certainly just you know,
the most prominent hip hop acts. So you go, that
would make sense an outbreak, So, uh, not surprised, still
see them they really?

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Yeah, like there were there were kind of a s
of hip hop acts that people kind of like alternative
crowds have kind of like latched onto, you know. We
talked about when Denzel Curry headlined Outbreaker a couple of
years ago and how you feel like such a natural
fit death grips. Danny Brown is kind of like in
a similar lane to that of like he is, you know,

(54:03):
much more sort of pure hip hop act, but he
has just got like an energy and attacking intensity to
him that can.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Like get a rock crowd, yeah, balancing up and down.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Not every one of his records sounds like this, but
A Trusty Exhibition is one of my personal favorite hip
hop records of the last like ten years or whatever.
And it's really dark and weird and it's a strange,
scary sort of hip hop.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
I mean, I will say from again, I did see
his whole set. I saw about twenty minutes of it.
He seems to be leaning into the kind of more
for the first part of it, at least bouncy, fun
sort of party hip hop. But it was it was
a good time. Like I did get see Scare of
the Hose, which was a good fun like that that
got a big kind of crowd reaction and there was
you know, I could I was constant for a back

(54:45):
packa there was a mosh pick going, the crowd were
into it. It was kind of like, yeah, he it
feels like hip hop is kind of like there was.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
A little bit of resistance at first, but.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Like certain hip hop bax Are now does very much
welcome at and it's funny when you see the videos
of them at the main outbreaking everyone kind of just
staged over into the man and they're kind of like bewilderment
at first and then and then kind of like the
fuck it, yeah, less encourages this like that was that
was cool. Again, can't talk on the whole set, but
what I saw of Danny Brown, it felt like, yeah,
this is another kind of just like well well in

(55:15):
with the sort of outbreak vibe, just like bounce up
and down, have fun mosh like hip hop.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Hat was very cool.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
The only reason I saw half of Danny Brown is
because I then had to rush over to the second
stage to catch Glass Jaw, who, unsurprisingly it's Glass Jaw
were fucking brilliant.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I have one gripe with this set, and that was again.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
I don't know how this will worked out because obviously
in albread Manster they were doing both days. On one
day they were doing worsh Contribute full on the other
day they were doing anything you ever wanted to know
about Silence and Full like yeah, and you know that
that that debut album's there's some like touchy subjects on it,
Like it's like they found that they having to bear

(55:57):
the burn of like one of the few bands who
actually have to apologize for them. So anyway, a lot
of other bands get to, you know, just kind of
like reap the rewards of it.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
But then they are still playing it at falls.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
But the problem is that if they're not playing it
in full, they barely touch it.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
So the Outbreak.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
London show was kind of billed as a set of
like the two albums, kind of like playing songs from both.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
I was like, yeah, wait, you were getting an unavoidably
condensed you weren't going to get the lot sort of
you know, that's something where obviously compared to Manchester, which
I had two days to do it, you got a
little bit of a drawback at that London.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
So what I was expecting was similar to when First Day,
for example, did Outbreak last year and they were doing
the full Collapse for all the time set where they
basically alternated between the two albums and kind of gave
you just sort of like a nice is like the
big singles and deep cuts from each album, and you
got a handful of each and it was fucking amazing.
And that's why I was kind of like, that's it
says that on the poster that glass you were doing

(56:51):
this in Outbreak London. That's why That's why I was
bracing to geest. And then that did happen, and I
was a bit like, I was like, I feel bad
for almost being like you didn't write a song where
you call women bad words and talk about like how
they look.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
I know that.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Like again, like you know when you talked about it
was I, I can't you notice the moral high ground
about you enjoying on your knees when I want to,
you know, sing those glass songs. Maybe it does make
me a little bit of a hypocrite, but I was
hoping I would get to see some everything you ever
wanted to know about Silence Glass your songs, because I
like Siberian Kiss is the only one they kind of
like regularly trot out from that album now. And what

(57:27):
I got was, you know, a glass or set of
glass or being fucking great, like those worst rebute songs
when they when they like going to tip your bart
and you get that d.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
That open how many how many did they do off
each was it like it.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Was mostly worshiping tribute and then one song off the
debut which I didn't even get to see because I
had to leave.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
I had to get over to the third stage.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
So you saw a worship in tribute set as well.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
And with some material control.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
So I was like, you didn't tell me you were
playing again again material control like a fucking great album.
But I was just so primed for, like, oh, this
is gonna be one of the opportunities to see you know,
some early glass draw and I didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
And again they were fucking great.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
They were glass and they sounded amazing, like and you
know when you look at this, it's gonna be like, oh,
that's still a great set list of songs, Like I've
got the sets up here, so like you know, open
cut and run, tip your Barton and you think you're
John fucking Lennon as a kind of like great stuff there.
I was just like they closed the Siberian Kiss and
I was like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, your bastards. I

(58:30):
was really like hoping I was could have got that, but.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Yeah, it is just just sort of a mislabeling of
what the set was actually gonna be before you go
on to the thing. I know that you did go
to see just once and for all, because I keep
looking at the post and going, what's this? Alex G
was on the main stage here and he was like,
was he one of the headliners for one of the days?

Speaker 2 (58:49):
And yes, he was headlining the day that knock loose on.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah. Yeah, So just just I know you probably didn't
see it because you went to see the other band,
but let's just sort of go, alex G Break who
what is that? What's the relevance to the Carcore community
and was I don't know, like obviously again didn't see it,
but like, was it something that felt really like, I
don't know, like natural and part of the world. Because

(59:13):
I don't really know anything about alex G.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
So I I say I did seecrare you actually tops
around the people they like for more counts. He seemed
to draw pretty decent crowd Outbreak London because he's kind
of like sing a songwriter with like touches upon like
nineties ro stuff sprinkled in there a bit like again,
I don't know, hus manigument I was hoping to catch
a little bit of him, but when because listally that

(59:36):
was the plan. But then when I saw the whole
one in one out Q system, I was like, well,
I'm gonna have to, you know, just get there and
that stage. So I'm still a little bit like in
the dark. And actually He's knewest single is actually really
quite cool. So I'm like, I should probably listen to
Smmer actually at some point and kind of figure out
way lands and Outbreak. But I think again, it is
where I say, like that Pitchfork needle drop kind of

(59:57):
like trendy kind of alternative of music sort of sphere
that isn't rock up on hardcore. He does sit in that,
so I guess that's where where Albret kind of touched
on it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Now they can draw him in. But again, but I think.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
He almost would have felt more natural Outbreak London going
on before Turnstile than he would headlining a day of
the actual Outbreak. That almost That's why I think, like
almost feels like the sort of more natural fit for him.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Yeah, fair enough. The certainly the top clash of the
day that many people you know shared a teer over
when the clashes were announced the top two you know,
headline bands on the two the second and third stages.
Not Loose, as you've mentioned, likely did what they have
been doing this whole you know cycle, even before that,

(01:00:45):
but you know, certainly this cycle. It's quite crazy that
you could have gone to see Not Loose straight into
Turnstile as basically like the two tearing shit up taking
over the world hardcore bands. Actually incredible that at one day,
for whatever their ticket price was, you could have seen
those two bands straight into each other. And I'm sure
that everybody who chose to do that had a hell

(01:01:07):
of a fucking evening. But I don't blame you at
all for going the other out from notch Loose because
we did an album club on our previous album Club
episode marking the return of sunnydirreal Estate to the UK
or is it the returner? Have they ever played here?
I don't know, but certainly are.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
They twenty eleven was the last time they played the UK.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Okay, so the return after many a year a very
rare draw in the UK, and straight from the first
outbreak announcements, Sonny, their real estate being there in the
UK was a thing that made a lot of people
go oh, I can see Sunny the Air real Estate,
So don't blame you at AOL for going to do that.
How was it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Ah, so good?

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Like again, I saw some of the when we did
the album club that like I love Diary, and then
I'm kind of like, there's some stuff on the other
this albums, I think is quite like some songs I've
never beencouraged without the other our albums. What they did
is they were like really smart picking the best material
from the non Diary stuff to kind of like actually

(01:02:08):
make it feel like, yeah, this isn't just the Diary
nostalgia hour.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
We actually have you know, a really good catog that
made them kind of go for an hour.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
I was like, ah, Sony Deverside just a fucking incredible
Emoi band.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
They sounded amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
They opened with seven, which, like again the pop off
when it opened with that, it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Was kind of I think everyone could have knew.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
They were going to open with seven because it's such
a good way to open a set where you get
that like dancing guitar line. This is where I saw
some on like tweet was like my view of Sunny
the Real Estate playing seven right now, and it was
just a shot of like the outside of the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Tent, like the tent was rammed for them, like it was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
And again there was a buzz in an atmosphere, so
many people being like, I'm finally getting to fucking see sunny.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Day real estate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
It was a real like sure events, and again a
lot of people said like they should have been on
a different stage, they should have on the main was like,
it's maybe to give them the length of a headline
set an hour to play for I would have put
them on them like the main stage, maybe like two
bands before Turnstile or something personally, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I went in that tent because I was like, we're
gonna get there like as the band fourth finishing swacking
Chop and get in Diary. So obviously off Diary is
like open seven. They did do you know in Circles
near the end, the blank Stairs and songs about an Angel,
So it was like the two mega hits off it,
and then you know, the really sort of prettiest stuff,
and then it was a taste of like again, other

(01:03:38):
stuff off from LP two and The Rising Tide, which
again not albums I'm crazy about, but they just picked
enough material off that and they sounded so good playing
it that I again for an hour was just kind
of like in awe of kind of just this like beautiful,
really emotionally fartick and soaring emo music in circles was

(01:04:00):
a kind of like real.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Massive, like sort of you know, open with seven when
you go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
It that course, when that encircles here and ever again
just everyone's shredding their voice. People were There was multiple
people in that tent crying at multiple points during real estates,
where again that is the reverence that band are held
in by a lot of people that I didn't cry,
but I was kind of just like really again, like like, well,

(01:04:29):
I don't know, but I genuinely it's the most I've
seen people crying at a band in such long time,
because I think again it's their first time coming over
here and so long for like most people in that tense,
you know, their entire time being into alternative music.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
This is the first.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Time I'm getting flashbacks to her when I saw Agloc
at Fortress the other week and the similar different worlds
but similar experiences.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
No, I don't think he does have that sort of
similar sort of thing of like this again, because it
is like really emotive music. You know, song about an
Angel is so beautiful and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
So pretty that it he's like stirring.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
And the Rising Tide which they closed with, was like
when the end was like big crescendo, can like rift
part I was like ascending up with them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
It was like wonderful and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Again like so worth the way, just again didn't feel like,
you know, oh we're aboud with that one album that
everyone loves. People loved every song, like though those of
a cine realist albums clearly have you know, enjoyed, maybe
not in as much as Diary has, that is still
the one because it is the holy bible of Midwest
emo and all of that, but it was a fucking

(01:05:36):
brilliant like just treat to see a band come to
the UK for the Similars and I hope they decide
to come back again soon for an actual tour or something,
and don't decide we can wait another fourteen fifteen years
before they come back because like god knows, like what
would happen in that time, But yeah, Sandor real Estate,
well worth the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Way, wonderful And then the headliner that was exclusive to
London that Manchester did not get. We reviewed the new
Turnstile album Never Enough last week, and you know there
were there were different opinions between not only ourselves, but
I think many people have heard that record and have
discussed that record in the last couple of weeks since
it came out. Different opinions floating around there. But this,

(01:06:16):
you know, this happened before we had recorded that review,
and I know that you were very much floating into
that review with the the eff buoyance of just having
seen this Turnstile show. Turnstile shot, I guess essentially to
you know, prove themselves as a like outdoor, big park

(01:06:38):
style festival headliner. Obviously an Outbreak related event. It doesn't
surprise me at all that they would go down absolutely incredibly.
But let's let's go into a little bit more detail.
I suppose into this set that you saw just before
we reviewed the record last week, Turnstile headlining Victoria Park
Outbreak Festival.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Yeah, so again this is you know, a big outdoor
festival stage, two huge screens.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Either decided it was ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Was the first time I saw Turnstile playing the Fighting
Cox in Kingston, which is one hundreds and fifty capacity venue.
This is the closest I think I've ever been to
sort of being like I saw a band. I saw
this band playing a dive bar ten years ago, and
now I'm seeing them. Yeah, headline a huge outdoor festival stage.
That was a fucking sort of surreal moment of kind
of like what a journey it's been over these ten years.

(01:07:29):
Unsurprisingly opened with never enough. Yeah, you know, like of
course I'm going to do that. It was a cool
opener and I was like, yeah, call that that, you know, good,
good start to the set. Then then after they finished that,
they did the outro and flutes in hardcore. They did
the flute bit from the album there, and I was like, okay, cool,
you know you kind of put that in earlier, and

(01:07:49):
then bam TLC hits and the whole fucking like festival erupts.
The Again we would like look right at the we
were kind of like maybe like a little over halfway
back around just in front of the sound desk maybe
and just bodies convulsing, bouncing up and down. TLC set

(01:08:10):
people going in the most like hardest way imaginable, because
again that's you know, just ninety second their stage showed
what they didn't go, go go conserlation. They had like
a massive screen behind them that sometimes I was just
showing the band. Sometimes had the kind of like the
colored stripes that seem to be the kind of like
live sort of backdrop they're going for at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Other times it was the crowd. Sometimes video stuff in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
The songs, but that that just going bound to sort
of striking colored bars behind them. They still look like
the coolest band in the world when you're watching them
on stage the way they are like bouncing and moving
all around you. Then get, you know, a couple of
songs of light design and endless and then the coolest
thing I think I'm ever gonna see at a massive

(01:08:54):
outdoor festival stage, which is when you're getting to run
off phased Out seven, keeping me moving and pushing me away,
going back to like og hardcore turnstyle, playing that on
a massive outdoor festival stage and the crowd was spawning
in kind like phased Out is the sort of the
song that made Turnstile makes sense to me when I
first didn't get NonStop feeling for a little while when

(01:09:15):
it first came out, and then when.

Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
I f.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
That riff and those those four form Metallica stomping bits
on those kind of early songs. Still a hardcore band,
all of that, They're not halfway any more.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
What am I seeing right now?

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
I'm seeing fucking hardcore songs from ten plus years ago
headlining an outdoor festival stage.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
This is fucking surreal. Fists of flight.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
There were pits behind us, like, and there were people
like doing their proper washing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Style further back, like not around the crowd, and but
they were they would fucking go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Two step in I first ahead, like asking people to
two step.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
You don't get that very often.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
And then from here, you know, the set kind of
like selled into a mixture of the newer stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
And you know, a lot of glow on material.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
It was like they dropped this like early. Here is
for the real hardcore washers. We've been here since like
the early days. Here is your kind of like run
of four songs to fucking remind you that we're still
fucking legit. And then when fucking I Care came in
and I'm like, again, we we've sung the praises of
I Care as being like almost like the perfect turnstile

(01:10:24):
pop song at this point. Yeah, and again the vibe
shift of everyone like singing along, Oh was this another
wagon when you're looking like down on dole on the album,
But I was thinking about to live whether everyone again
just sing the deep in the neck and wording for
the call for some reason, and I think.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
They must have handed it to her.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
A girl in the card had like a like old
fashioned like kind of like ring all telephone that just
holding up and the camera was hosing on for that,
and I was like, surely this is something that like
someone would be like, right, you hold this up for
this part of the songs. We can have it on
the screen and everyone can kind of have it as
like a visual cue of like the whole Diffni I
won't for your call. Bit that was that was fun.
Anything of space songs of time and space, Uh, real

(01:11:06):
thing was kind of like taste of that, which again
maybe my one criticism of the set was only real
thing off of time in space. I'm not in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
The Forgotten Times to Turnstile record it's the best one.
I'm not into them not playing all those.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Don't want to be Blind should be in the set.
Generators should be in the set.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Like generators should be in there Forever and Ever.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
What are you doing yeah, like again, maybe they will
cycle No, no, no, I agree, I do agree with you.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
But like when I heard the gotta keep it out
of get and doing real thing in to drop again
is like they just dropped these little bits of like
here is you know, we've done you know, doll don't
play the more poppies or newer stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Here's your reminder, like yeah, no, we're to a fucking
hardcore band. That sort of stuff was really fucking cool.
Towards the end, you're getting you know, Underwater Boy, Holiday,
Alien Love Call like again. Holiday is just one of
the most euphoric things I'm ever gonna see any.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Band play live.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Turnstile Summer is happening all around me, and it is
fucking here to staye.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Watch because she would probably the next day, wasn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Like yeah, like she was there the next day. But
Turnstile put their stamp on. Turns Summer close the main
set with look Out for Me, which that's one that
works with the words closer because like that riffle when
it drops and it bounces, it's really fine.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
And then you have, you know, the three minutes of.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Ambient sort of like Symphie Dream Pop whatever, you want
to sort that that has kind of like the outro
that was really cool, and then you hit the encore
of Like Mystery into Blackout, which obviously that's how you
know glow on starts, and it's just the perfect one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
I love.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
They can get away of like Mystery, like using the
definitive turnstile openers twice in the set by having one
open the main set and one open the encore. It
does kind of shout that Mystery is still the kind
of like the real one because it does pop up.
I don't know if it's more familiarity with it, but
like Whenever Whenever, we never le uskind of like, oh yeah,
you know, we're arms there singing when Mystery happened, the

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whole field is bouncing up and down. The breakdown at
the end of Blackout is one of the funniest things
I've seen because again, that was what one where the
real hardcore warriors were waiting for that moment, and then
again we were a sort of starting to move back
a little bit speaking to make a get away when
they finished, and we were all sort of dodging spin
kicks as we were moving back, so it was kind
of just.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Like again it was.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
It was one of those festival sets where no matter
how far back you were going and were like right,
the very back was kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Really spread out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Bit everyone was mushing and bouncing and dancing, it just
stretched back and was kind of like, this feels like
and watching a proper outdoor festival headline this even more so. Again,
then the coast comparison will be like Slamming. I've watched
the bands and I was kind of like, well, I've
watched you know, Kicking Master, they're no longer here, but
like UNI six and I've watched some headline slam Dug.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
It's felt like, you know, it's a bit of a
nostalgia thing.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
This feels like the ceiling for them Turnstile, this doesn't
feel this never, and nobody was feeling like, well this
is this is, you know, my one chance to see
Turnstile do this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
It feels like, you know, they could keep going.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
And then when they're closing on seeing stars and birds
is like the final sort of thing, which again the
highlight of that Again, that's where I landed that being
the heart of the Albemy was seeing it close, the
sort of set and everyone's singing, seeing stars and then
birds just like causing absolutely bedlam this deep in the
set as one of the new songs.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
And again that everyone everyone bounced.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
The families that these birds are meant to fly alone.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
That bit like those hooks already.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
This was a week after the album was out and
everyone knew all of them, and everyone knew all that.
And again this is a real mixed crowd of like
people who are probably out their.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
First hardcore show were watching Turnstile do this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
They were like people who've been there, you know since
non stopped feeling and stepped to rhythm, kind of going
like yeah, this band of fucking headlining a festival. It
was so such a real celebratory moment of like turns
all are one of the real bright spots we have,
and again this did. This is probably what beneficial to
push this to laugh of the review because I woanted,
like blowed my load on the album thing. But this

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if you are a bit mixed on the album when
you see it live, I think some of the songs
that maybe you're less keen on, you're kind of go
that's it. That's the secret source that I was missing,
because like turns Off have been one of the best
live bands in our scene since you know, NonStop feeling
and they've just got better and better at it and
seeing it on this scale, but never feel and still

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get to be like, I'm what they are a hardcore band.
There are still so many so I was like, this
is a hardcore band and they're playing pop songs right now,
they're playing you know, dance.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Sort of stuff, but it's still a hard gore band
this entire time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
And that was just like the best vibe to end
the day, one of the best sets I've seen this year.
Like I've been a real been a real treat for
live sets, like last weeks of that with nine inches
Nails and some of the stuff I've got coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Just an incredible day. And again like Outbreak London.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
If it's what of, I would still say a big success.
And you know, the big turnstile shows aren't stopping. Go
to those shows in November or whenever it is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Yeah, like I said earlier, for sort of posterity's sake,
there were a couple of bands who were playing on
the Outbreak Manchester who weren't on the London bill, but
then came round and played shows near you that I
know you were at, so let's do Death Heaven first.
Death Heaven were one of the things who I actually,
I know this is my circle, probably leaning more metal,
but like the big event sets of Outbreak, obviously the

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London ones everyone was talking about Turnstile, theose, obviously to
any real estate whatever. But stuff that I caught from
Outbreak North, let's call it for the for the sake
of this Death Heavens set there looked kind of crazy.
And they're they're not new to Outbreak. They've done it,
you know, twice in the last couple of years, haven't they.

(01:16:54):
But they are they're always obviously, No, they're not a
quintessential outbreak band in their sound. They're a band who
can sort of do anything at the moment, which is
kind of what's exciting about them. But the clips I
saw of Death Heaven at out actual Outbreak with a
full on, like you know, an enormous crowd of hardcore
fans stage diving and yelling. The one that we go

(01:17:18):
around is the ending of dream House with that I
want to Dream and all of that, and just this
like it looking like this absolute crazed, fuckinged expulsion of
like you know, hardcore fans watching Death Heaven, obviously you
have a different you know show experience because you basically
went to see a Death Heaven headline show. But Death
Heaven on you know outbreak weekend, let's call it. Coming

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along with was like Pain of Truth in some other
which is again it was Pain.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
Of Truth support band you could feasibly pick. Even though
their new poster, like I said, looks like Pain of
Truth artwork or something big Dog, Big Dog. But it
seems like even if again this wasn't the massive outbreak experience,
they just had that use or a good week to
catch Deaf Heaven. They seem like they're on a bit
of a tear.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean we were on Pain of Truth.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
They came out and they were Pain of Truth bouncing
New York hardcore.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
So I ended up going to Brighton for this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
I will say Brighton got a really burging hardcore seeing
the moment, and a lot of those people turned out
for this show Death Eavan Also, to be fair to them,
they just seem to be so welcomed into hardcore now
like they are the sort of the black mail band,
like again when they first did Outbreak, when they sub
headline or like co headline with two Share Moray in
twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Yeah, twenty two two.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Yeah, Like there was kind of like a curio booking
there and everyone's kind of like because it was on
in from the grant was like, oh, they'll probably do
you know, all the emo Shugay stuff, And that was
the open with Black Brick, and everyone'sind of like, ah,
fuck me, Death Eavon are fucking sick. That felt like
I'm kind of like, yeah, no, you know, we welcome
you back now. And from what look like death Evan
was sort well embraced, but they just seem to be
kind of like just accepted part of the Hart Furniture

(01:18:56):
Pain of Truth though, you know, like Chalking Brighton sold
out to decent size venues like Powers and something capacity,
Like they just came out and that to be there, Patruth.
What they were really smart doing was kind of like
tailoring not the setlist, but they're.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Kind of like soft ones, not.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Not even that, but like knowing that like not everyone
here is going to be a fist throwing, stylish hardcore musha.
But there were one point in the set they were
like they things that I was like, you there, you
have have you have a two steps before and I
know it's like someone so yeah, show him how to
two steps. I want everyone two step in for this song.

(01:19:34):
And the guy he tried it, and like they bantered
with the crowd. They were like, we know, you know
the sentence of a hard crowd, but like cheers for
you know, enjoying us coming out to watch. You know,
you know I know how to march, but we can
bounce up and down to this. Well, let's let's go.
And because it's no New again, Pain of Truth is
the most like I said about Speed being you know,
no frills hardcore, Pain of Truth is like that, even

(01:19:56):
more dulled up in that it's just pure New York hardcores,
all swag w, it's all attitudes, all bounce, and it's
actually then really easy as a casual to kind of go,
I can nod my head to this and have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
And I could definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
See even some of the more curmudge, the sort of
trendy death Evan bands who are kind of like stood back,
arms folded kind of being won over by Pain of
truths just kind of like buoyancy and energy death heaving
themselves though, like I will say, like they're their band.
That said that before they even came on. Now like
rather than having rather they have you know, this is

(01:20:28):
the lowly people with power radio station kind of things.
They they were building atmosphere the entire time before they
came on, and like setless wise again, I don't know
what the album was majority lonly people with power.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
They think this is the most songs I've ever seen
Death Evan.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Play around album. So yeah, a hefty.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Chunk of lonly pe power while sprinkling in brought to
the Water and sunbav in the middle of that, like
they opened with Doberman into Magnolia. It was so they
came out like looking like you know, the backshirt, they
look very smart me since and then after one song
his website he's wearing an American football shot. I was like,
he's this is not this is what I'm talking about,
the hard corpication of definitely he's got like an American

(01:21:12):
football jersey, and I was, I've never seen Death ever
life And you know, performance wise, like deaf Evan like
he's always been a very flamboyant like throw like conducts
the crowd and kind of like it's quite like not
feminine but like he isn't you know, stumbling about beating
his chest.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
And for some reason he like again, I don't know
if it's.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Because he's been playing like at hard Confessor with you know,
lopio power being a little bit more immediate thing. He's
speaking his chest, he's commanding pits from the car. I
was like, this is why I'm like the hard corification
of Death Eaven.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
It's just creeping in in little bits.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
It feels that they are more attuned for like g
upper crowd to be a bit more rowdying at it
then rather than you know, the kind of like conducting grandeury.
And he will still do that during you know, Brought
to the Water and some babe and in particular dream
House at the end, which we'll get to, but it
was just an intest sort of different style of death
and where they were like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
They were a bit more intense and kind of like
beefy with it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
I will say, you know, the loadly people powers off
the garden route Amephist, which was what they closed the
main set of just absolutely gorgeous. This was this is
one of those like this year has kind of been real,
like they're just one of our best bands around they
simply are they are in that level?

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Again, someone in our discords will put it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
I was like, are they now in that sort of
class of bands that we look at like a converge
or some something like that, And I kind of go like,
I would say, yes, I think this is like artistic
greats in heavy music of the mon nera Death Heaven.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Are you know, a first draw pick? You sure you'd
agree with that at this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Point, I've been thinking that forever. But the way they've
just continued on with this great run, and certainly the
reaction to the record this year, which I imagine is going
to be come December one of the most like frequently
picked albums of the year for people and for the
publications or whatever. I think this is certainly a year
where maybe it was the you know, the slightly more

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divisive reaction to Infinite Granite, but making a record that
everybody seemed to like this year has very much like
consolidated them as that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
I think that's it is, like this alum has really
unified again, hardcore kids, black Meal fans or you said,
everyone just seems to kind of be like, yeah, no,
this sound was brilliant, Like when the OnCore of like
incidental too. They're doing that kind of like tracks me
in then Revelator, which sounded fucking crushy. Yeah, and then
like when you get to dream House, which to me

(01:23:31):
catsual at my moment, and I might tell you the
last four or so minutes of dream House might be
the best thing to ever come from metal.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
At times it is, it's pretty spike.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
It is like, again, this is the more moment. That's
what I said.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
I didn't cry that there was I did feel the
emotions really swelling up. And again not everyone says, but
he you know, coming he came down to the barrier
and there was like a sea of people climbing on
each other to get that mic for the the end
of dream House, And yeah, Deaf Heaven are on incredible form.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Great album.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Again, I would have liked to see I've not seen
them play anying of Infinite Granite yet. That's the album
that's kind of like eluded me because the time I
saw them on that, they decided no, no, no heavy
stuff only and now they've kind of like moved on
from it, so like I'd like to bring the backs
of them, but this it feels like they're capitalizing on
lonely people with power being such a kind of like

(01:24:26):
unifying thing, and so they're pushing that hard and it
was fucking spectacular.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Yeah, I'm really looking forward now to seeing them at
Damnation this year, and then obviously the really lengthy you know,
UK and European tour they're doing around that we'd spoke
about earlier, coming you know, November and December, and then
the final Outbreak related gig that we're gonna talk about
here that you went to see is a band who
I don't know if they've played the UK before.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Certainly this was their first ever time in the UK.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
UK debut and certainly of you know, hardcore bands of
the last several years to kind of gain some level
of attraction feels like one of the what would have
been the really big cool outbreak bookings. They were only
at Manchester, they came to your area. You went to
see God's Hate.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
Yes, I did go see God's Hate. I'm a big
fan of God's Say. I'm you know, even outside the
man Brody King as a wrestler and also coolest fucking
guy like he has had a bit of a moment
recently where he's kind of like gone slightly mainstream where
people are showing images of Brodie King looking at the
coolest fucking guy on the plane with his abolish ed
T shirt, Like what fucking they had met him before

(01:25:30):
the show, really lovely guy, Brody King fucking rocks were like,
but that there, But yeah, this was like the most
kind of like pure taste of fist swinging, knuckle dragging.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Hardcore that I got from Outbreak.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Call all variants on just your Hardcore sound like like
not like I mean they opened Outbreak, they would have
kind of like Peace of Minder from Germany, I believe.
And then Chamber and Split Knuckle were like UK Represents
is for hardcore.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
There Split more.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Kind of popular UK hard bands, aren't they?

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
Like Yeah, Split Nook in particular, like they've been going
for a good while. I've seen my bunch over the years.
They are like the most essex band to ever like exist.
I swear their vocalus is grave every other word. But
they were good fun. They're so rouding in your face.
They have a little bit more of the kind of
the metalical thing going on at times without being like
Fall and Poison while worship like we're talking a bit

(01:26:27):
more like Christ an integrity sort of are of metal
core where it's a bit nastier and spikier chamber, lots
of beatdowns. It was just kind of like his free
bands for Tamosh to for God's Hate come on and
you'rre mosh God's Hate as well. It was good fun
and then Yeah, God's Hate came on opening with number

(01:26:47):
one into be Harder, like fuck, yeah, this is what
I've been wanting to see.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Like when you have the record, I just want to
quickly say that record self titled, isn't it God Take
One from twenty twenty eight one. Yes, Yeah, we review
when it came out, and I think we, you know,
we were really positive on it. We really like rated
the record, thought it was a lot of fun, really hard,
really heavy, great tunes. It's one of those records that
I think of the last few years of hardcore that
we've been reviewing, it's one of those that has kind

(01:27:14):
of cemented itself as like maybe a bit of a
you know, contemporary sort of classic for that scene and world,
because again, they don't make records very often. It's four
years now as it is, that record, but people are
still talking about it. People are still posting about it.
The fact that they were playing those songs here was
like a huge fucking deal. Like I still listen to
that record, like, you know, semi regularly. It's still one

(01:27:35):
of the world's the records from the world of hardcore
that is on rotation. So I just want to just
make a note about how that god Take record has actually,
you know, become a genuine sort of modern staple for
the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Yeah, for that kind of like vein of like beat down,
just kind of like violent fishmal cars. I mean, but
I mean, I think it's maybe the you know, the
Colin Young resurgence where he's everywhere and like he's doing
it again, Brodie kind of being somewhat of like a
minor hardcore scene celebrity almost like again he was, you know,
meeting loads of fans of that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Like there's a number of factors combined.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
I think we're just like, do you know what if
you looking for that part of hardcod these songs are
actually just really fucking good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
If somethings are fantastic, they have they have actual fucking
songs like be Harder. Ye did they do the Yeah?
I like to say, I think that's the one with
with with Colin do the like yeah, that big fucking
multi layered harmony thing, which when I think he said
once that that was inspired by I C S Vortex
harmonies on Demi Borge Records, and I was like, you're
the fucking guy that proof that you're turning out into

(01:28:37):
a hardcore thing. But like, how was that live? Like
is because I've seen him with like basically a Brittany
mic because of heat the drummer.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
That's so funny when I realized he has a Brittany mic,
but like he's in that and then to be fair,
Brodie's you know down the front given the mic to
That was why I was like, we're kind of still
stood on the edge of the pit, like dodging fist
for number one and be harder.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
But again like the when you're gonna look it's hard.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
But then when that six ft deep hit in and
that opening rip kind of I was I felt moved,
and then when that caused out, I was like, right,
fuck it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
I just charged down, grabbed the mic. I was like,
let's fucking go, let's have a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
You know, the valley beyond date one eight, that is
just one of the most ignorant and like pure like
again that's what's got like the kind of hip hop
gruve talk within the hardcore. They did very funny hit
after those first of the songs, he was like, we're
a band called God's Sake.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
This next song is off an album called God's Sake.
This song is called God's Hay, and it was like
I was like, yeah, it was really fun.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
A couple of older songs were kind of like thrown
in their admission of guilt and violent procreation, which again
just really hard songs. And then towards the end, the
funniest thing happened. They decided to drop two covers, which
sometimes I'd be like, you need to do two covers,
but you know, we still got a good chunk off
the album.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Songs. Absolutely have to do one of them, it should
be said. One of them is a song that God's
are known for covering. I would all must expect them
to cover this song.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Go on. Yeah, So they covered master Killer by Marauder,
which is, you know, legendary hardcore album if you are
into that. So, like even the Hardway is such a
like pivotal piece.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
We we we are going to do just something you're
gonna say, I've been meaning to do it for ages.
We will do it mainly by the end of this year.
We will do a master Killer album club, because I
am the master killer for that world of hardcore. It's
genuinely the best thing ever.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
And I think the funniest part is who was like
before they played it, but it was like, you know,
this is what it's all about, you know, violent dancing,
but like doing it like for fun and not like
like and like styles of rare thing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
You see this guy, this guy here and.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
He puts it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
This guy in the Cuddy point too, his motion was
like on point, like this song is for this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
And they covered Mask and I was like, man, imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
Being so good at moshing that God's Hate dedicated cover
of master Killers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
That is hard like cred for life, that is do
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
And I was like, cool, that was really good. And
then like, yeah, we've got another cover and this I
did not see coming. And they did an outbreak but
I didn't know. But when they covered take Them All
by cockspar And the funny thing is is like the
band shifted. They weren't the God's hat I've been seeing
a couple of minutes ago, playing Mascular, they fully lean

(01:31:24):
into being a fucking OI punk.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Okay, I haven't seen any videos of this, and I
want to because I can't imagine sonically what lumbering, you know,
beat downy type band God's hate covering this really jubilant
oil song sounds like.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
But they they became a turbulant but like one of
the guitarists who does like some of the back box,
he was like, you know that like let.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
In like sort of starts hacking away his guitar.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
I was like, this is fucking cool, and I was
like brother with the two fingers like. I was like,
this is like such a fun like weird and no
where change of pays for the set. But I was like,
fair play, You're pulling this out on your first ever
UK show, you know, covering a legendary or UK punk band.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
That's a really fun thing to do. And then they
finished the job.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Like as a closer, like so a song that finishes
about killing racist and all that sort of shit like
and finally seeing God's hit over here, I'm sure I outbreak.
This probably would have been like biblical levels of like
bodies flying around in fist flying. But for like their
first of a like London headline show, I had a
great time.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
It was a really kind of called sort of get
my proper bit of hardcore flavor from this sort of
outbreak period.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Yeah. That is the thing out of everything of like
Outbreak Weekend that I am most jealous of, you know,
and that includes you know, Death Heaven and Turnstile and
some real estate and all of this stuff. God's Hate,
which I love that record anyway, but God's Hate covering
Marauder into Cocksparra. I would have learned whiplash. I would
have learned how to do a backflip right there and

(01:32:58):
then and done it twice in a row. That's fucking beautiful,
so so good. That is sounds report from again a
slightly different Outbreak this yeah, Outbreak London and assorted handful
of shows of bands who played the Manchester if you
were at the Big you know, normal, I think it's
probably fair to say that's still the true Outbreak experience,

(01:33:18):
because Outbreak is the stage dives and the stage invasions
and the no barrier and the mosh waiver and the
Golden Wristband and all of that stuff. That we love
about it. I understand Outbreak London, you know, a different experience,
but it sounded like a great one nonetheless, so that
is the rapper for that. I you know, I'm almost
guarantee someone from from our lot will be an Outbreak

(01:33:40):
next year. I would imagine maybe probably it will go
back to being an all Manchester affair, or at least
all in you know, one place. But as an interesting
experiment at Break London sounds cool and certainly Turnstile feel
like they really had their big outdoor moment at that,
which is apt off a you know, having just released
that record never enough. So so yeah, cool lovely stuff there.

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summer of live music rolls on. When we are back
here next week, we will be talking about deaf Tones
and Weezer. We will be talking about Lincoln Park, we
will be talking about King Diamond, and we will be

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But you know the thing, basically as soon as we
get back from Deaf Tones and King Diamond and those
types stuff, where we are going to be talking about
twenty one Pilot's Blurry Face into man O War's Battle
Hymns and then turn over the Peripheral Vision and the

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Devil's Blood at the time of No Time evermore. I
have been writing my notes on several of those records
in the last couple of days, so it's going to
be really interesting to see how that one goes down.
But those two shows, the again continuing Massive June and
July and Summer of Black Music, we'll be like with
high blasts and for the Patroon supporters who are so

(01:35:26):
kind to keep us a flight with their money, we
will be back with that album Club Pack as well.
So thank you everybody, take them all. Bye bye.

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