Hyperblasts: Sam Says Nice Things About Electric Callboy At Slam Dunk

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello, everybody. Welcome, so that's not metal. We are your
weekly rock and heavy metal podcast, and welcome to another
edition of Hyperblast, our weekly news show where we let
you know, in as quick as efficient a fashion as
we possibly can, all the things that you need to
know that I've got on in the past week. We
let you know the best releases that are coming out
as well, and we keep you up to speed like that.

(00:47):
I apologize for my sinuses which have decided to combust
immediately before I'm about to go off and do some
other stuff, which is not very helpful at all. But
if you can deal with me, here we are. My
name is parent Haish. Across me is Sam Dignon, and Sam.
The first thing that we are going to talk about
before we talk about the news and the releases and
so on, is you felt the call of pop punk

(01:09):
this week, didn't you. You might try and suppress it
every now and then, but in the end, the call
it always takes you.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I can't stay away. Apparently like my like least favorite
favorite trip to make or something like that. Yeah, slam
dunk it happened again.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Like I wasn't gonna go, I ended up going, like
I winned about the lane on not being great. I go,
I have a good day. It's the way things are. So, yeah,
slam Dunk obviously being slam dunk, something had to go wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, are we ever going to get a slam dunk
that's without some kind of controversy? So I guess I
imagine you're referring to the quite horrible videos that came
out to do with the security at well, I just couldn't.
I wasn't try if that was at South or at
North or both or whatever, but I think.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
That was a South.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
It just seemed like that stage in particular just had
a bad day because that was a stage that was
running nearly an hour eight in terms of delays for bands,
So I couldn't watch Scowl as a result, annoying me,
but like, but yeah, there was videos of like security
on that stage. It was isolated to that stage from
what I gather, because on one of the metal course
stage which had all like had straight from the path

(02:16):
calling be hundreds of crowdsurfers. From what I could see,
they were getting caught, they were getting handled correctly. So
whoever was in charge of brief and security on that
stage didn't do their job until a few people have
been dropped on their head.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Basically, yeah, which heinous because thankfully nothing's come out but
anyone actually being seriously hurt or anything. But when you
are essentially just watching people drop on their spine from
a bump.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Over the barrier, the security guards just kind of stand
there watching.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
It, actively moves out of the way in the Really
you can if you watch you see that, think the
stage manager come and give them a bollocking and say
you've got to catch people.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
So they clearly did see it and address it.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
But there's still multiple people you see getting dropped, So
that yeah, good.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
So you know, let us be a lesson to everybody.
Brief your bloody security proper when it comes to, you know,
making sure people are safe. Sam, you have quite a
good track record of going to controversy ridden slam dunk
and entirely avoiding the things that people are upset about.
So you had a nice time, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Like I saw some shit.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Not always perfect. I know how to do slam dunk
without things going horribly wrong. Maybe it's the fact I'm
furty to it. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna crowd
surf at slam dunk anymore like that might be, you know,
one of the factors, but I know how to avoid
food use in fairness, things like food que toilet cues.
They seem to be a lot better than they were.
Was it two three years ago when it's like the

(03:35):
nightmare one like that generally is something they've got now.
It just it seemed like the that one stage, which
again I was slightly like affected by it because of
hoping to see Scalp for watching our Galantria, and then
because of the delay not being able to which is
a shame.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
But yeah, so got their early to middle friends ended
up watching.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
The first thing I watched was Lake Malice, who the
most live thing about them was their backing dancers.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
The first few things I thought were very TikTok, that
kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Lake Malice just not for me in the slightest, but
really abusing the backing tracks to a point where I
was like like, come on, like when it's not just
like a bit of vocals. There's lots of vocals, there's
guitars on the back truck. There's so much, and I
was like, put a bit more effort.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
In it, just not for me.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
And then after that on the same stage. It feels
like every yet sunder, I have to see a new
worst thing ever apparently which and that happened to be
Sophie Powers. So again, is I know nothing about very pop?
Loads of backing tracks doesn't have a basis, like it's
so artificial, And I just had to then watch her
do the worst cover of hard Shaped Box by Navana

(04:41):
I think I will ever see, And I was like,
genuinely abysmal.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Is this is this a sign for the day? I
was not feeling good.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Fortunately, following on from Matt and I know you weren't
massively keen on the album, but I went to see
a fighter who were act really fun live. I think
some of the like some of the things that you
don't like in the album were almost dialed up live.
But watching them live, they are so just like raggedy
and full of energy and like it's constantly fizzing over well,

(05:12):
like she can't remember the times if she's gonna be
playing guitars, she'll just throw a guitar down and like
just gonna jump in the card and kind of on
the bands could hold.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
It together because she's like she's a.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Big personality on stage and that to me, I was like,
I really, I'm enjoying this. They're so because again I
just watched two acts where it's so like backing track heavy,
plug in and play a punk rock band really going
at it live, and I thought that was really fun.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
The songs off the album played live. I think some
of the.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Production things where it's a bit clean, it's a little
bit more like again ragged live, so that that helps.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
There did a cover of Sabotage by Beastie Boys.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
For some reason, they do their Paramo cover.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
They did.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
They did do their Paramore cover, which again I was like,
and they got to that is that post like it's
the second half. I was like, everyone was like, god,
you know this really is this means me business? But
I saw that the song's pretty catchy. And I think
the other songs they play, which was mostly off of
the new album, they they're they're they're pushing that quite heavily.
It settled me in for the day. I was like,
you know what, this is cool that they're they're really

(06:11):
high energy. They feel like I'm watching a proper band
right now. I'm not someone playing to a load of
backing tracks. I'm now settled in for slam Dunk speaking
of someone playing to I don't know if it was
backing tracks. Maybe they had a keyboards, I can't quite remember.
Icy Stars really fucking boring, Like was this.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Just a more big curiosity choice.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Gonna watch?

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh I didn't actually watch a little bit of Knucklepuck
whilst I was getting a beer, and they seemed fine,
you know their knucklepuck. They were doing like the same
thing they've been doing forever. Not that much to say
about them.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
But yeah, the problem Icy Stars I was going to go.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
I was like, well, I hope they just play all
the old stupid stuff and are just really garish and
like obnoxious, and it feels like the modern Icy Stars
they're trying to be serious.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, they're trying. They're trying to keep up with you know,
the bad Omens and all that.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Problem, And I was like, this is a problem you
should be and that There was a couple of months
that they did play an Order song and I was like,
here we go.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
This is really rubbish and stupid but quite fun.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
But those like fleeting moments in otherwise I see a
very self serious metalcore.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
There's a little bit today it was like no your enemy.
I feel like with this slam done.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
And next up and this is the like last one
before the day got really fucking good. To be fair
was I went to see Landmarks, Oh right. I was
curious because they were on like the metical stage and
obviously they're blowing up all of a sudden, and I'm like,
I know very little about them, so I was kind
of like, you know what, let's go find.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Out what the deal is. Yea. And I will be honest, if.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
There were any kind of like modern metalcore band that
people want to go crazy for, I could actually tolerated
being Landmarks.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
They would They seem not the worst of them.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, that was my impression. They were like, actually quite heavy.
The cream vocal stuff isn't super whiny and self serious.
That there is a little bit of like the very
sort of serious stuff in there. But then there's also
French rapping thrown in because like they're French, so like
why not.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
But I was like, I can think of some of
some reasons why not.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
To be fair, Yeah, but I was like, this is
a bit of personality.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
At least. They did a song with a Matt from
Whish Sleeps.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
He came out and did these guest spot for them,
and I was like, oh cool, that's you know, nice
to see him hop up and again it was one.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Of those was like, I don't really care for this.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
If this isn't going to be massive and they are
going to whole sea of these bands who I think
are all terrible and a massive I can let Landmarks
slide there. They were, yeah, solid, totally acceptable. I was like, yep, cool,
fine with that. Fortunately, from here this is where the
day really kicked into gear. Straight from the Path always
fucking great. Like again, I saw them a couple months ago.
They they played basically the same set I saw them

(08:47):
play at the Underworld, only this time it was on
the big stage where massive crowd going absolutely ape ship
for the entire sort of forty minutes they played. Obviously
the big talking point from this straight from the Past set,
they announced their new album on stage is out on Friday.
Parent of people said they were posters of it around
the site. I'n't actually seen any of them yet. It
was like bands all these like big social media campaigns
that we thought we'd just do. Souldsko away. Yeah, our

(09:09):
album's coming out on Friday. Here's a couple of vinyl
copies and started frisbeing him out into the crowd. I
was like, no, that's actually quite cool like that. That's
made me more excite for a Straight for the Path album,
where I'm like, do you know what's coming from? There
was Finch, who I maybe were like for one song
was my highlight of the whole festival. I quite like Finch.
I think What It Is to Burn is a really
good album. They are they are a one album band,

(09:31):
but I mean they've got, you know, a great album
if you love that kind of early naughties emo sort
of sound. Every time they played the song off of
What It Is to Burn, crowd went mental.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Crowd was loving it. Everyone was dancing, singing and having
a great time.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Anytime they tried to do anything else start everyone kind
of stop.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
And I was like that was just not.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Bad, but you and then you know they they've said
they've got a new album coming there they played a
new song. I was kind of like, Ah, you're at
the wrong place to still do this, like slam on.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
People want the nostalgia, that's all they want. They don't
care about anything new.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
And then you know, they close with the title track
of what it Is to Burn, which was my highlight
of the whole festival.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
What a song like that? But I did enjoy Finch.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
That was my dose of like nostalgia bait, like I'm
gonna just relish in, you know, something old and have
a good time with it and it enjoy those roast
into glasses. Actual highlight of the festival came next though,
in Newfound Glory.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Say, if that's your dose of nostalgia, what is New
Found Glory?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I mean just Finch is you know, purely like this
is a band with one album from two thousand and
two that I really love Newfound Glory. Maybe it is,
you know they have a fair yeah, yeah, but they have,
you know, several albums and a set list where basically
every song they played I was like, that's a.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Banger, to be fair. You know.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
They come out the open of all Downhill from Here,
which is my favorite Newfound Glory song.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I'm going to be in a good mood.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
It's a funny song to open with, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Maybe, but you know it wasn't all.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah obviously, Like anyways, they've got down from four years strong.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Filling in on guitar for them at the moments.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Obviously, Chad Gilbert is ill, so you can't be proving
of them, and he was like just a good present
to have on stage. But they, you know, came on
again like forty five minutes or fifty minutes of just
some of the best pop punk you'll hear.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Like.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
It was like, man, Newfound Glory, their songs are so
good that they let you forgive those vocals. Like on record,
those vocals are not good, and live they are even worse.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
But when you're you.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Know, you're singing hit or miss or dressed to kill
and it is just the best time.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
They played their little Mirmon.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Made cover, which I was like, cool, yep, that's fine,
I'll take that, and then you know they're closing with
my Friends over you, like one of the best pop
punk songs ever. It was this is what slam dunk is.
Great pop punk songs, have a beery mate, dance sing along,
have a wonderful time. I genuinely I was like, yeah,
Newfound Glory were like on really good form, even if

(11:53):
again Jordan's vocals are never good and are probably worse
than they've ever been, but you forgive him.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Those songs are just that fucking good.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
After that, I did see fifteen minutes of As it Is,
who were fucking rubbish.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Part of it may have been the sound on that stage,
deciding to just like completely crap out for them, but
I was like, this just sounds really unpleasant.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I don't know if they're.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Playing out of time or just like things are just
getting lost because of the sound. I saw them because
they were doing the album in four and then they
but they did they do the thing now where obviously
the big song that's like two like's like three songs
into the album, don't do that there do it at
the end. So I caught them playing dial Tones, which
I again I'm a dial Ton's defender, and I was like,
this sounds bad.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
I'm bummed out. So that wasn't good. And then what
might actually turn out to be the main event of
the festival for me, again not my fit.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Set, but I'd be waiting for you to finally get
to this.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
So initially my plan was watch a little bit of
Neck Deep, then watch Scowl, and then watch forty minutes
of Alkaline Trio.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
That was my plan.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
But with that stage running so far behind now where
Scowl and Alkaline Tria were going to like completely overlap.
I was like, well, you know what I saw scow
what two weeks ago. I am seenlc Lintria for a
good while.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I will take one.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I will do something out of like sheer curiosity again,
know your enemy, as I say. And I didn't a
deep and I decided it was time for me to
actually watch Electric core Boy live.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
There the worst place. I didn't even get Sehi play that.
But we'll get onto that, I know.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
But here's the thing, right, they were headlining the like
the metal Course stage, so.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Fair play to them.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
They treated it like they were headliners. They bought a
fucking show.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Looked kind of mental.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Insane, like if they even come on, they have are
like the elevator man or what everyone's called, like when
you know when they're characters that they play. He was
was like interruting. Thing was like, yes, you're here to
thee Electric Collboy. We need to check everyings ready for
the show. And it was like so it was like
lighting and they had like all the lights go off
music and they had like a little electro sample pyro and.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Then like the stage erupt into file and I was
I was like, oh, this is what.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
They even played the note and they're kind of showing, yeah,
we've got Pyro Convetti and again they ever played note
and they've sent Convetti canons out onto the audience. I
was like, how big are they going to go? And
then they come out open with is it Elevator Operator whatever?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
The newest single? Not not? There was another new one
apparent they played again. I forgive me Electric.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Collboy fans like for not knowing the names of their
songs that apart from like high Pyper and the obvious ones.
Almost immediately I was like, fuck's sake, am I gonna
have to like is this going to be a really
humbling experience for me?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Because they were fucking great when they came on.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
It was so like, I don't like this music, but
the euphoria that kind of just swept out of the stage.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
It's built for the live show, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
It absolutely is? It really is.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I will I will like hold my hands up and
say Electric Corboy when they are dropping the full on
eurodance metalcore songs with those choruses, those mental stupid simps.
It was everything that Icy Stars wasn't like when I
said that was like really po faced and boring. Electric
Corboy was like, so in your face, so obnoxious again,

(15:23):
insane amounts of pyr they confected going off every other song,
They've got like confetti cannons they're shooting out into the
crowd like handheld ones. I was looking, I was looking
around and the size of the clan pit. I was like,
I can't like shit on this. The evidence is there
for me. I'm swept up in it. One of the
funny things was they had so the drummer from some
point one is currently drumming for them, which is why

(15:43):
they decided to pull out a cover of Still Waiting
part like kind of like straight cover.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
And then on the second verse they they cool.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Boy and it goes like Eurodance and Still Waiting, and
I was just like, again, I gotta respect the audacity
of that, Like this is so ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I can't believe I'm enjoying this.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
But I'm almost like they go off stage one point
and they come on in their gym outfits for pump
it is.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
It again, like whether so yeah, who was pumping?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
When they're in the full on gym outfits doing like
the aerobics on stage and I was like, I need
to hate this, but I'm smiling.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'm having fun. Fucking what's gone on with the word.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Maybe this is again the state of metalcore where cool,
we're having personality, having like powered to their live performance
is just so refreshing.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I was so and then you know, they did that
every time we touched cover again.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
I was like, ah, two covers in the set, maybe
a bit much, but again it's a it's a fun cover,
isn't it like that? And it makes sense that they're
covering that. I was like, can something go wrong? They
played like a brand new song and I was like,
this is this is actually a bit different there, there's
a layer to this song that is not just your
very typical electric call board things. I was like, I
was so ready to admit to feat And then fucking

(16:50):
thank god they shut the bed catastrophically for me, and
it was what I've been working for. I was like,
you hat fucks, thank you. I can have my cake
and eat it. Because they decide to like kill the
momentum of the set dead and do an acoustic set
like an acoustic cover set. And again, there'd already been
quite a few covers I've seen today, and like I was,
having already played two covers on the set which were fun,

(17:12):
doing an acoustic cover of Crawling, which, again, what's.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
The fucking point in this?

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I thought the whole point of Corboy was to be
you know, obnoxious and Garrison them doing this like really sappy, wet,
shitty cover of Crawling by Lincoln Park is one of
the worst things I've heard. You're you're doing the complete
antithsis of what you're meant to be and this acoustic
sept for like ten minutes in them in the set,
I was like, I'm out of it. I've been completely
snapped out of the kind of like delirious euphoria of

(17:37):
the first sort of preceding thirty odd minutes, and I
was so like, I was genuinely upset really happy at
the same time, but I was like, the fund's gone.
And then like they came back and they started doing
like EMC Thunder and a few other songs, and I
was like, yeah, fine, but now I've got to go
watch our client trio. And as I'm walking off sucking it,

(18:00):
I was like, I've gotta go watch our Colin Trier lads,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
You blew it. You almost yeah, you almost had me. Like,
but here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
They are really fucking good live when they're not shit
in the bedroom an acoustic set, like everyone is gonna
be like, ah, Sam, you were wrong this whole time.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'm like, I will happily be wrong in a when
they were, when they were good, they were Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Right, here's the thing about this.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I was not there.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I can probably imagine that Coolboy acoustic set doing covers right,
does not sound like a good idea. I also think, yeah,
they probably don't have like an hour worth of solid
front to back golden hits. That much is true. But
if we were to remove that part, and if basically
you had seen the ending run, if they'd like not,

(18:44):
then you know what's the word overran with like Alkalan
trio and stuff, and you'd been able to see the
whole set, the last run and there's obviously there's a
song in here where you'll go no, no, no. But
the last five songs of Cool Boy set just as
you were leaving are EMC, Thunder, Hyper Hyper, the Baby,
a Collapse, techno train, and we got the moves in

(19:04):
terms of hit power.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Only like a data remember a newfound glory at there,
like when they're hitting their runs of a sustained amount
of like bang bang bang. As that as said, it's
unfortunate that you got to see the shittest part of
their set and then left before the the you know
the video.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
I like, I saw EMC funder and I was like,
you know what, you're getting back on track with EMPTC funder,
Like that's again having fun with that. They did the
other mc funder one where it's all like the ninja
moves in the mosh pin. I was like, yeah, really stupid,
but like the first empty Thunder is such a jam.
But yeah, it's like they might not have a full
front about golden sets, but in terms of like the
final run of what they have money to build of

(19:45):
slam dunk type band, it's among the best of them
right now.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Do you know.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
And there's the thing I think if I'd got to
see that, I would have come away saying that could
have been my set the whole festival.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I genuinely think that.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Because they just the sheer stupidity of what I was
seeing and hearing the the again pot so much fucking
pirate and really well done. Pyro not just you know,
you know someone that pirates just like flame Shot Flameshot.
They had like the flame kind of showing up and
patterns and like moot they like Flames was kind of
like spiraling around the stage.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, really fucking cool. They put so much thought into
this stage or the lighting.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
They had a big screen at the back which had
like quite fun sort of stuff going on, and they
would have like the interues with the characters coming on,
and I was like, and I think if I had
not seen that acoustics there and seen the closing run again,
maybe even Techno Train could have got me like having
fun in the live environment because I was. I was
so swept up in it until they pulled the rug
out from underneath me and it like again, it.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Was like, I can't believe.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
I'm genuinely disappointed that as that electrical we were doing
something shit because I was having so much fun with it,
but the way it is.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Fortunately I did then get.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
To go watch Outline Trio play just an hour of
amazing punk rock. They were on fantastic form. It was
a bittersweet moment of I was was like watching because
they've got obviously Adam Willard drummer at the moment. He's
a fucking great drummer for them. He has brought like
so much power to them on on the drum kit.
But I'm like, it's not fucking against me you're playing for,
is it, though, go back and reform against me? Please
get Laura stopped in that. Come on, guys, get together.

(21:07):
But yeah, al Chine Tria were fucking great. Skiboard was
on really good form, incredible set list of like good
so many hits.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
The actual best band at slam Dunk this year. I
think like, yeah, I would say so, like both the
best material and actually being able to respect themselves after
what like twenty thirty years the best band of slam
on twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Five, Yeah, I would have.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
I'd say, like the highest set with me were still
glory just because you for a feeling of just the
moment of it. Tria was just a great way to
We've actually like, oh no, I'm just watching a fucking
great punk band. This is what slam Unk should be.
Mercy me like stupid kid, Like they just shot kid
really early and I was.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Like the opening with like time to Waste or something time.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
To waste like sady like and then again like you know,
when you're closing with Private Eye, No Private Eye into
Radio excellent hour of had a really fun time watching
their masks, are like, yep, this is that what I need.
And then I had the sort of choice of do
I again catch work out from the scale delay or
watch a bit about a day remember, or do I

(22:07):
get home early. I made the choice to get home
early because I could just that people trying to go
on that train is a nightmare if I can.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Get so did you see any data remember at all?

Speaker 3 (22:16):
I walked past as they were playing If It Means
a Lot to You, And then their cover of since
You've Been Gone? I was like, oh, another cover like
the theme of the day, but I kind of I
heard mixed reports on a data remember probably like started
fucking great and then kind of like tailed off pretty drastically.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, looking at this set list, they open with the
Downfall of us all into I'm Made of Wax, Larry
into second sucks into right back at it again. That
is perfect, isn't it. The problem is they then have
other material and they're currently touring, which is you know,
less ideal. But I'm sure for a slam dog set,
you know, certainly the beginning and probably the ending as well.

(22:54):
They hit out the monsters and I'm sure it'd be
a very good time, just as we know what a
data remember are. So yeah, that wraps up up slam Dunk.
I guess I Last weekend I saw Aborted and they
had funny little props on stage which were like kind
of like blocks of ice with like skeletons in them,
and they looked like that now that.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Show was I saw someone else post post. I was like,
what band is that with like these light up skeletons
in like blocks. I was like, what is going on here?
Who is this?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
It was Aborted and they looked like the aliens from
Mars attacks. So that was fun and haven't seen the
boating in a long time, so equally as high stakes,
I'm sure. Rights, let's talk about some news, and you know,
we've already had a little bit of time there on
slam Dunk and this was a I'll call it a
normal week because some of the stories that I do
not want to, you know, spend a lot of time

(23:41):
here talking about right now. But we could talk about
the R and B at Caliuchis, who had kind of
bizarrely a couple of weeks ago, got into a bit
of a war online with sleep Token Stands due to
them kind of warring in the charts, saying essentially accusing
sleep Token of using black face when it comes to vessels,

(24:02):
makeup and stuff. And I think that is a genuinely
interesting conversation. Not that it's something I thought about before,
not to do with Sleep Tooken, but eat like just
there is kind of corpse paint and stuff when watching
certain bands. I have to myself, I've had the thought of, like,
where is the line between painting yourself black essentially and
black face. I think there's an interesting conversation we had there.

(24:23):
I do like we are not the people to, you know,
determine that that conversation. So I'm gonna just say it
and leave. But what a headline that is. We could
stay on Sleeptoken talking about Richard Osmond, of all people,
who has along with a lot of the rest of
the all I suppose because they've got like number one
records and stuff, has discovered Sleeptoken this week and has

(24:44):
upset people by even Richard Osmond is saying Sleep Tooken
aren't head for you enough. But there's that we could
talk about Einstein kills using ai R and then when
they got called out for it, doubling down with an
ai apology, which okay, fine. Or you know, there is
the Iron Maiden setlist unveiling, which I guess we will

(25:04):
not go into in detail in case like there are
people out there who keep it unspoiled. Iron Man are
a weird band where they make it a big deal
of unveiling the whole social media, you know, on their
social media, the settlers for the upcoming tour, and it's
kind of part of the ritual for them, of all bands.
But I guess, you know, we'll talk about the tour
and the settlers and stuff when it comes through. But

(25:26):
that was also in the news this week. So let's
start with one that we are going to speak a
little bit more in depth about, because of course we
have to, because this is a little bit closer to
home maybe in terms of the kind of bands who
we have spent you know, many many years talking about
and championing and just kind of existing around in the scene,
particularly here in the UK. Because there was an announcement

(25:48):
that came a couple of days ago that really took
people off guard. I think that was then properly followed
up with an official confirmation and statement and everything that
Svalbard are going to be disbanded in twenty twenty six.
They are embarking on kind of their last shows. There
is a tour that has been announced for November, headline
tour of the UK, which they are saying is their

(26:09):
final headline tour presumably in twenty twenty six. They'll probably
do some festival shows and stuff like that whenever their
last show ends up being. But Svalbard are after about
fifteen years of being a band, I think calling it
a day in twenty twenty six. And this is a
band who are one of you know, a crop of

(26:30):
bands who when I think about you know, T and
M is a podcast, right, and the kind of bands
who we have been most adjacent to as people going
to heavy shows in the UK, right and trying to
look for upcoming bands and stuff, and then seeing the
bands who maybe ten years ago we're in that stage
we've then watched kind of blossom and have a you know,

(26:52):
a career. Svalbard are, I mean I've said it before
employed to serve really are the last one standing now, right,
Like of of that one, and it was it was
them and Salbard. This is a band who we've spoken
about countless times. We've had Serena from Svalbard on the
show when she was talking about her Noctool project. And

(27:13):
I think for that reason as well as just obviously
them being a band who who's you know, music and
records we have reviewed and enjoyed and so on, and
we're fans of the band. But there's something about when
a band likes Svalbard, who are in this kind of
position that just feels a little bit closer to us,
I guess than it might be for any other number
of bands. Calling it a day feels like a moment
to take stock.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, the same as you know when Ifka did it.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Uh this Bard Now, I was like, I felt like
so bummed out about this again, Like they've just been
one of those like constants.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Of like the last ten plus years.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Like say you would go to those period you'd go
shows and you know, Stalbard would be like pre libly
supporting and they were always really good every album. I
felt like, you know, there was a real kind of
really steady like Incline their music. Well again from twenty
one with the long Tar, which again I think is
just like fucking outstanding. The band was so much integrity

(28:05):
and kind of what they sung about and like standing
by their sort of like words and everything they've represented,
and so again it is just a real shame. And
I just say, like all of those UK bands that
if you were into like alternate music in the UK,
in like I said, the mid twenty tens, there were
just so many bands that you kind of latched onto
from that kind of like underground scene. And yeah, as

(28:28):
you say, Employed Serve are the only ones kind of
sort of left standing. And that's it feels like a
real kind of like end of an era for like
so many of these bands and what they what they
stood for.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, and Svalbard are I think in their own waves,
Valbar were quite divisive. I know there are quite a
lot of people out there who never got Svalbard and
will tell you how boring they think they are. But
I think the flip side of that is Svalbard are
intensely beloved by their fan base, like the particularly I
think because of the kind of the wading into themes
around like mental health and you know, green and loss

(29:00):
and kind of depression and stuff. Like that that's going
on in some of their later records. I think, you know,
the people who took them to heart really intensely have
done and have connected so hard to those records, and
I think that you know, they will feel that loss.
Spalbard are a band who I've been a fan of
since their first album, the twenty fifteen one Day All

(29:20):
This Will End album, and I loved that record and
they were part to me of again the kind of
a generation of UK bands in that time who often
coming from a hardcore whether it be an employed to
serve or a palm reader or someone even like you know,
Black Peaks or whatever kind of adjacent to all these words,
but they all had their own sort of thing they
were doing. And Spoubard's kind of in the early days

(29:40):
crust punk essentially combined with like the beginnings of what
was going to really blossom into a sort of like
post metal, post black people kind of sheene on it.
I loved that engine of it on those early records,
and then they did blossom. And again I think the
twenty record that you're talking about, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Names just came to I was like, yeah, yeah, that
to me is like the high point of it.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I agree that is I think the real the cresting
of everything they were going for, and it's a fantastic record. Uh.
And then of course their last album, they signed to
Nuclear Blasts, and it kind of felt like after you know,
a decade of pushing where again a decade before that
they were doing like crust Splits and stuff in the underground,
and then they was like, oh shit, you know, like
they almost felt like they were becoming a bit of

(30:28):
a you know, not necessarily a big band, but like
a really established band who would reliably tour with again
some of the some of the greats of the world
like Enslave and some of these bands that they were
kind of going out on the road with, and it
felt like they were really hitting not necessarily a like
you know, a momentum in terms of like dramatically improving

(30:48):
from what they've been doing in the early years, but
kind of like successful, somewhat being rewarded, you know, and
they felt like they were becoming a really you know,
time and time again with the TNM audience poles and stuff.
Their albums, I think pcreasingly with each one would have
like gotten high into the audience rankings. And stuff, and
so you think, like at that stage, after that last record,
which was their kind of most you know, widely distributed

(31:11):
one to date, why go now? Because I don't think
this is like, for example, some of the other bands
where we've gone, they they never entirely got the success
that they deserved or got their jewes. It seemed like
Falbub were again not the biggest band in the world.
I'm not saying they would have been making cracking living
or something off of being stalbar, but like you know,
for a band like them, they were they were playing

(31:31):
the long game. But I think what has been put
out here is so Serena made a statement to specifically
to metal Hammer, actually kind of giving more of a
reason as to why they've decided to hang it up.
And I think I really respect this statement. I think
it's a great kind of mindset that she's approached this with,
and she's quite eloquently laid out. I recommend everyone goes

(31:53):
and reads it if you are as Svalbard fan. But
she basically talks about not wanting to have you know,
kind of diminishing turns creatively, and the idea is we've
made four records now that we're really proud of Do
we want to become one of those bands who just
puts out stuff for the sake of putting it out,
you know, if it isn't necessarily going to you know,

(32:14):
advanced dramatically from what we kind of had already been doing.
And Valbard are a band who I had wondered that
about their music. Not that I thought necessarily were you know,
kind of going downhill or something, but like I felt
like the last couple of records they had hit a
kind of a plateau of the different elements that you
heard in their music, thinking how much more can they

(32:38):
expand on this? You know, like the kind of the
post rock stuff and the integration with the clean vocals,
and the kind of the you know, the kind of
the real the sadness and the beauty and everything that
was kind of really seeping over that kind of crust
engine that they had from the early days. Felt like
it was really almost like a maximum. And I thought,
you know, I don't know if we were going to

(32:58):
Reviusevalbard record Astervalbard, right, I was a thinking a bit,
I don't necessarily I can't see coming exactly what they're
going to do to dramatically go beyond that. And I
think if they have felt that, you know, we don't
want to force anything beyond that, and that we would
rather again the biggest their band's ever been, which I

(33:19):
think is really admirable and respectworthy about this. They've gone,
They've gotten to this place where they are the biggest
the band has ever been, and they've gone and this
is where we're going to call it. If that's how
they feel, I applaud the decision. I'm obviously I'm sad
to see Farbar go because i love this band and
I've been a fan for a decade and I've got
so many fond memories of seeing them live and so on,

(33:40):
and they're they're great, so Falbar They've been a really
great part of the UK music scene for the past
ten plus years. But if this is their decision and
they're reasoning for it, I applaud the guts and the
self awareness or whatever to do that.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Well. I think it's almost like as a band, you
go like, do you want to be again be a band?
Two releases an album that you don't feel is you
know one hundred you've given everything too, Like they've released
four records and they clearly feel like they put everything
into those records.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
This was Spoubard, you know, four albums, fifteen odd years
of like great live shows, and we can we can
walk away of it proud of everything we've done. Again,
I've always been one who's like abandoning it on their
terms is where it's my ideal way for any band
to split. I hate it when bands go we can't
have WHI spliting because we can't afford to do it,

(34:31):
or they implode for.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
It, which is basically what Ithaca said.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah, that's why I like the EF one really stunk,
because it felt like they were being taken from us
basically Spoulbuid. It feels like they've gone, we have completed Spoubard.
We've taken this as far as we can possibly take it.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
And that's that.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
And again I'm sure Serena at the release and everyone,
they will probably go on to do other stuff. Maybe
is there if there's a new Nuctural album coming on,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think she's she's been saying she'd been writing a
second one for a long time. I'm looking forward to that,
you know, because I enjoyed the first not to record
a lot I saw what. I think it's apparently to date,
probably one of their only live shows to date. I
think it's Celestial Darkness Festival in London. But if that's
to become her main project, then yeah, bring it on,
like because I like the first one. I'll take more
of it, and particularly as Foulbod is not you know,

(35:16):
in the picture, then if that becomes her primary kind
of project, then you know, we we we welcome it,
and I'm sure the rest of them will have their
fingers in some other pies as well.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
There's no blemish on Spoubard. Then there's nothing you can
ever look back and go like, oh remember when that happened.
That was a bit embarrassing, that was it? Like you
go like, no, they had a really good run. It's
great records, great live shows, and they seem fulfilled of
what they achieved. And again maybe there is and maybe
they will all be quite sad about having to walk
away from it as well, but it won't be like
any It doesn't feel like this is anyone a sour note,

(35:49):
which I think is like really important and it just
makes us feel a lot easier. It's going to be
like yeah, cool, like do what you do what is
right for you guys as a band.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Like yeah, and if they regret it, if they you know,
if they regret it one day, then maybe they'll come back.
But it doesn't seem like this is a decision that
has a lot of regret involved with it compared to
as with some of these other ones that we have seen.
And so their their final UK headline tour is happening
in November. I have already picked up my ticket for

(36:17):
the Manchester date to see him off, and I really
recommend that everyone who's listening to us, who has enjoyed
Spabar's music over the our ten years, go and do so. Obviously,
I know that we have some listeners in the US
and places like that, and I don't think Svalbard ever
made it there, and they've said it's because they were
never able to afford things like US visas and stuff
like that. But that is, you know, it's kind of
the unfortunate reality of the business at times. But they

(36:38):
have said that they are going to go around places
like Europe and I think Japan and stuff as well,
and obviously going into twenty twenty six, we would expect
to see them, you know, I don't know where their
final show will be, maybe a Damnation, maybe an octangent
Ithaka are doing whatever it ends up being, or maybe
just like one big, you know, hometown trial, whatever it
could be. But in regards to seeing you Know again
kind of sparbarred off and giving them the farewell run,

(37:01):
I think they are one of the bands of the
last ten years who they've just been such a good
thing during those years. Like they've been, they've been a
net positive for the UK, European and global even you
know music scenes, these kind of regards and what they
put out there, the music they've made that I think
this has the opportunity to be one of the more

(37:22):
celebratory endings of a band that we've spoken about like this,
and so I hope everybody gets involved. But yeah, I
mean that is Valbard. We're to hear this episode. Like
I said, I applaud the decision to bow out at
the point that you feel like you should bow out,
and so yeah, lots of love to Valbard and thank

(37:44):
you for all of those those great records. There's a
few albums that are coming over the horizon. We'll skim
through these very quick. First one, we have Rise Against
have got a new album that's called Ricochet that's out
in August. It's their first album since Nowhere Generation in
twenty twenty one, which I thought was a good album.
I thought that was the best Rising Against the album
in you know a number of them. But that's out

(38:05):
in August, and there's a track off it as well.
Sam excited about a new Rise Against the album, considering
as the last one was again one of their I think.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
They've been on a sort of steady incline over the
last couple after sort of wobbling from their like peak years,
and I think No Generation was really good, maybe into
my top twenty from that year. They're one of my
favorite bands. I'm always going to be interesting new album.
I'm not blown away by the single as they put
out so far, but you know, I'll hold judgment until
I get the full album. I'm sure I probably will
like it, because even their like worst album, as long

(38:34):
as I really like on it, I just really like
Rise Against, So yeah, it make sad for it. And
I think it comes out like the day after my birthday,
so that's a nice thing.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Like, yeah, the week after that, Pendulum are going to
be releasing their first new album in fifteen years since
twenty and ten. It's called Inertia, which is quite funny
when you think about a very very long gap, but
that also features a star studded cast of guests including Worgasm.
Of course, where would they not be? Boy with my

(39:02):
Valentine hybrid minds who I'm not familiar with, Joey valanceon Bray,
who I am familiar with, that's a whole nation, and
also scar Lord and that's just you know, a handfle
of the tracks on a sixteen track album.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Sam.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I do not give a shit about Pendulum. I never have,
even in twenty ten. They were never a band that
I cared about at all. I think they are so
not only of a time, but they were like well
basic then, So I just don't care about Sometimes people
try and make me care about Pendulum, Mark mainly, I
don't care about Pendulum.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
I'm sorry, But new album in fifteen years from Pendulum,
do you care? Pendulum got bangers? Like they are stupid?
You're right, they are like the most kind of like
me and is dumb down drum and bass for the
Masses band, but they got bangers. I'm also not particularly
like I would go see Pendulum live now to see

(40:00):
you know, those songs from back then, like I'd have
a very good time.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
The song with jovan Anson Bray is a banger.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
They you know, I haven't heard it, but that's the
thing this album I'll be most key to here for Joeyhillansam.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
But they played a bit of it they like they
dropped it like a loop of it live. Yeah, and
that like that's you know, just like Jovanser Bray doing
their thing over like a sort of fast rum and
bait beat John bass bat good fun. I look at
the rest of Sam, I'm kind to go like, I'm
sure there'll be some tracks that are pretty fun.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
I'm sure they're gonna be some tracks.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
It's like this is a like a demo you've had
kicking about phrases that you've got full of my Valentine to.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, look for the tracks that sound the most like
BBC three adverts and you will find the oldest Pendulum songs.
Then we have a new album that's coming from your
favorite Sam. Yellow Card are coming back with their first
album in quite a long time, almost a decade.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, that's out in October and it's produced by pop
punk's favorite sun not John Felman, but the new one
Travis Barker. There's a new song out, Sam, there's two songs. Okay,
well I've got one here better days with a music video.
How are you feeling about your your favorite cult violin

(41:12):
lead band working with the big man himself.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Musical terrorist Travis Barker.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Like again, like the amount of like I made the joke,
Someone's made the joke. It is the full on monkey's
poor moment of like as it again. Yellow Card are
one of my favorite pop punk bands. I like, well
beyond just Ocean Avenue. I think they're like they've got
a number of great records. I was like, you know,
when they came back, I was like cool, I don't
know if I need a new album, but the like
I'm happy they're back. And then sometimes to get like like, oh,

(41:43):
you know, maybe a new Yellow Card album. Maybe they
they found a bit of sparking. So think their last
album is one of their worst because I think they
were just the energy had gone by that point.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
And then again the Monkey's.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Poor curls because Travis Barker is here and I was
like a god and the thing is, I don't know what.
You'll probably hate these songs, and that's fine, Like you're
allowed to. I like, that's hard a conversation. I think
these songs are quite good Yellow Card songs. Why has
Travis Barker decided drums need to sound like they're being
played underwater?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
It's so distracting.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Well, maybe you'll find an unlikely savior in Robbie Williams,
who released the song I Thinks Maybe came out a
bit over a week ago, but now as a music
video and everything for a new song called Rocket, which
features mister Tony Iomi ripping out at the very least
a guitar solo on this and Tony Iomi right, he

(42:37):
has a history of working with some pop greats, right,
Bev Bevan, a probably fictional version of Michael Bolton. That
those are things that will only make sense to you
if you've listened to our Black Saber special that we
did this year. But maybe that will tantalize you enough
to go and do so. And now, Robbie Williams, I'm

(42:57):
not going to ask you intensely what you think about
the Robbie William's song, because, like you know, it's Robby
Williams in it's mostly fluff, but it is more guitar
lad than a lot of pop punk these days. And
Tony Iomi can play a guitar solo, So I guess
what we take what we give.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Like he's stupid and naf and like the thing is
is like I wasn't dden. Robby will just got like
a patch of sort of leather jacket with a mitched
this thing and then a monkey scots like he's still
keeping the monkey bit going.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I at this scene in the Monkey movie, you know
Oasis here in it. They're pretty funny in it. I
want the meeting with Toniomi.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, Like it's like I think this is, you know,
kind of fun in a very stupid way.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
And you're right in fairness, Toniomi.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
He can crank out of riff and a solo and
those are like, yes, pretty good Toniaomi solo Right there
is what it is.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Robbie Williams of the Young Blood that we deserve literally,
So that's out. The song's called Rocket, And then we've
got a couple of UK tour announcements that if you
are not aware of them so far, we want to
just keep your kind of you know, direc your eyes
over to them. The first is the more kind of
oh surprise news. I suppose Torch with an E that
band they're reuniting. They broke up. I can't remember exactly

(44:10):
when it was, but maybe around five years ago, like
it was sort of covid E times. I think they
are reuniting, and it's bizarre that they've got their only
announce shows that I'm aware of so far are in
the UK because they're not a UK band, but there
was this random little show that kind of got leaked
through that cave In playing Jupiter in full in the UK,
which by the way is also a factor of this.

(44:32):
Cavian are doing some Jupiter shows. They've just played at Roeburn.
They're doing a few around the UK at the very
least one of those in London has Torch reuniting for it.
And then there is also the Core Festival in Glasgow
has also added both cave In and this reunited Torch
onto their lineup, and that Core Festival lineup does look

(44:55):
it looks pretty decent. There's the caven Day has got
like Ash and Spire and Frontier, the Hers collective on
it agriculture. That's pretty cool. But first off, Caven playing Jupiter.
We did our album Club, great fucking record, perfect. But
Torch coming back, Sam, I don't know if you would
have ever spent much time with Torch. They are a
cult bad when it comes to this sort of school

(45:15):
of heavy. But they're reuniting, so that's fine.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, they kind of passed me by, right.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
I didn't quite get round to untwelf they've broken up,
so now they're back, I like, I should, you know,
I should probably spend the time listening Torch. I know
a lot of people really fucking love that band like that.
They are like one of those proper cult bands where
anyone who likes them is like, Tortu are fucking amazing
that they I don't feel like there's a casual fan,
so I'm like, we were one of my things this year.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Over the next couple of weeks or so, give Torture
a proper go.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yeah, Meanderthal is a fun record out on hydra Head
in the mid two thousands, so that's normally a sign
of quality, isn't it. But obviously Tork coming back cool.
I imagine they probably must announced some US shows or
something fairly soon. But also Caven doing Jupiter in the
UK that is fucking sick. And then we have a
tour announcement from Undeath, who around Bloodstock Festival. They are

(46:02):
gonna be playing the second stage of Bloodstock in August
and out several dates quite a long actually the UK
talk consider him around Bloodstock. They are playing, for example,
Liverpool on the Monday of returning from Bloodstock, so dependent
on if I'm there or not, I will be absolutely
fucking shattered. But they're doing a number of dates around
the UK. The city of Glasgow is the one that

(46:23):
has locked out here because Horrendous are also in the
UK because they're playing Art Tangent Festival and they are
doing much fewer. They're doing only like a couple of
other dates outside of Art Tangent Festival, which I am like,
I really want to see Horrendous Glasgow. These two shows
got booked the same night and so they've combined them.
So if you are in Glasgow and you can see
Undeath and Horrendous. If you're in Scotland and you're not

(46:47):
going to Bloodstock or at Tangent Festivals and you like
death metal, that is the must show see, must see show.
Even that you've got to get to this year, Glasgow, Undeath, horrendous,
brilliant cool. Let us carry on into the latter stages
of this episode of Hyperblasts, and we are going to
talk to you a little bit about the podcast that
we put together a couple of days ago, where we

(47:09):
finished as promised, because very slightly longer than I intended,
but we have finished our Poison the Well band special
retrospective that is available along with all of our band
specials like the Fucking the bed Bevan special that also
features some Black Sabbath in it that we did at
the start of this year. They're all available at Patreon,
corm slash That's not metal and that is what keeps

(47:29):
this show alive all these years. But the Poison the
World special that we did, we obviously started doing the
part which everybody knows about how they basically invent a
certain strand of metalcore with records like the opposite of December.
But considering they are everybody knows them to be metalcore
pioneers in that regard, movie the second part, where we
frequently go are they even really a metalcore band? Is

(47:53):
a different story and I loved this part. I love
getting to explore those questions of the much more complicated
and not at all what it says on the tin,
not just bits of their catalog and their legacy as well.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean obviously part one is like two
classic Melecorps albums, and then it is from here, like
again the journey they take and the kind of like
really underappreciated legacy of like being more than just one
of the greatest melecal bands that everyone rips off and
rightfully does, because I just keep ripping that sound off,
I'll never get.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Bored of it.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
But they become so much more interesting as a band
when you like dig into like these next couple of
albums and sort of the turns they make. And again
like we had a moment of kind of like we
are starting the like the renaissance of one of these
Poisonoul albums, and we will be fighting the case for it.
And again like you and Mark were even more like
gushing over the album than I was, and even un

(48:49):
like this album is fucking outstanding.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
We need to we need to.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Get the word out there that like this Poisonoul album
that kind of just seems to be the forgotten one
is fucking amazing. You should go listen to it and
then kind of like again analyzing their legacy of like
did they open the floodgates for all the shit we hate?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Now? Did they like?

Speaker 3 (49:07):
But how they also saw shown that like, you can
be a much more artistic and interesting band if you
like better on yourselves and don't go with a major
label route and do all these things are really kind.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Of like interesting specialist doing loads of cool chats.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Had Yeah, there is, as you're saying, there's one record
in there that if you are to call Poison well
a metal core band, even though we were kind of saying, like,
you know, is this really a metal core record or whatever,
there's one in there that I think you could argue
is maybe the most underrated metalcore record of all time.
But then I when I was again thinking about formulating
that we were going to do a Poison Wel special

(49:42):
in twenty twenty five, it's impossible to ignore where Poison
Wells sit in the culture at the moment, because then
when they're a band who have been largely you know, inactive,
not producing music for over a decade, there's a very
needly funny place where Poison Wells sit in the coming.
Essentially like ammunition that has been used by two different

(50:04):
sides of a warring culture, and moving into discussing that
and not just like, did Poison the Well create the
blueprint for metal core to eventually get bad or what
anything like that, actually viewing it from the opposing side
of being like, is there a more conservative kind of
outlook that people approach Poison Well's music with and this

(50:26):
idea that we have to kind of return to tradition
and how it was good back then and all this
stuff that Poison Well the band and their actual trajectory
doesn't necessarily stand for. Yeah, I think is a big
part of the kind of the the crux of us
doing this special at this time. And so going through
the record was awesome and I really love doing it.

(50:46):
And again there are such that there's classics, there's also
total underrated records, like we were saying, but also trying
to weigh up what do Poison the Well mean to
the culture of metal in twenty twenty five? Is I
think one of the more involved in that particular area
and one of the more complicated in that area of
the band specials that we've done. And so I was
proud of it. So the new point in the well.

(51:08):
Special that we have completed is available for your listening
pleasure over at patron of corm Slash. That's not metal.
Let's get into the releases. Obviously we did a review
show where were speaking about Ghost and all of those
big records last time, so we have got a couple
of weeks releases to go through here. So let's jump
back to the twenty third. We had Skunk Nansie releasing

(51:29):
their new record, The Painful Truth. We had Midnight the
King of you know, black and black rock and roll
and all that with the covers record Steel, Rust and
Disgust featuring covers of bands from the Cleveland area that
I guess kind of inspired him growing up. Also featuring
a couple of original songs, including the absolute banger that

(51:51):
was Cleveland Metal that is a genuine Hall of fame.
Midnight June, so that came out last week. There was
a death core band called The Spoke Zarathustra with a
record which has an amazing title, I'm done with self care,
It's time for others harm which is of the long

(52:12):
wordy titles. I'll take that one, and that one's funny,
Like I said. A death core band but I was
listening to a bit of them, and it's not really
the full on like modern you know, Lorna Show, Brand
of Sacrifice whatever. There's a little bit more kind of
like two thousand and seven in it.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
So if you there's a crop of like MySpace deaf
core bands coming out like them Psycho Frame, I won
the like really buzzy ones to keep an eye on.
But yeah, I'm down for this kind of strand of
throwback death Corps.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Yes, so that's out. Then there's homer Is Where who
are a emo band who We reviewed their last album
what feels like not too long ago, but they've put
out another one called Hunting Season, and Sam, I know
that you've heard this one.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Yes, I was like, oh, homes were they got that
EP from like five or so years ago? Is really
great and I've kind of been catchhag into them and
this is like, like, why is clear as the slack
your jocal fronting an emo band?

Speaker 2 (53:04):
It's bizarre this album.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
It's so like they they the amount of Americana on
this album is so dialed up, Like again, I'm down
for americanas or ema and punk and they've gone so
hard on it. Where it's like full of like country
songs and like banjo's and harmonicas and all of that,
and like, I think it's really cool, but it was
just it was a jarring listen at first, with like
just how like American a country it gets.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yeah, I'm not surprised by that, considering them their their
last record, but that is out. Then there is the
one of the kind of one of the architect bands
I suppose, of the sort of like retro doom revival
of like the mid two thousands and late two thousand stuff,
but you know, continuing on to this day, the band
Witchcraft with a record called Idag e Dag maybe. And
then again in that kind of realm doomy stuff witch Rot,

(53:52):
not to be confused with with a record called soul Seller.
There was the post metal band Year of No Light,
releasing Matre. And then if you like your kind of
slightly daft like black speed heavy metal stuff that I
bring forward sometimes, we had a couple of them last week.
First up there was the band hell Crash with a
record called Inferno Crematoria, which is great because it's just burning, burning,

(54:16):
And then there's the band sex mag with a record
called Sexorcism, and both of those records have fantastic cover
art to Boot so Go and Filly Boots with those
I believe Nepalese grindcore, the band Chepang releasing a record
called Jiappa. Then there is a more kind of death
doom area your death metal record for last week, a

(54:36):
band called Ostu Area, where I believe contains former members
of jeck Thoth, even though it sounds nothing like jack Thoth,
but there are called a Barrant Worship. Then in kind
of experimental progressive black metal, there's and Oceans releasing the Regeneration.
Itinery a project called Magus Lord, which is a new
project he always kind of has a couple on the
go of m from Lamp of Murmur actually doing a

(54:59):
record called in the Company of Champions, and this is,
you know, it's kind of rawish black metal. It's the
similar sort of terrain of where you'd think Lamp of
Mumber being, but it's much more on the kind of
like long form epic batthery, leaning more into like the
Dungeons and Dragons kind of side rather than the you know,
vampiric creeping around Lamp of Murma side. But you know,

(55:19):
that guy is brilliant at what he does. I've listened
to that record. I enjoyed it. So if you like
Lampa Murma and his adjacent projects, says another one for you.
Then we had some shorter form releases. There's House of
Protection with Outrun You All. Those are just to clarify
this for the probably the last time because I think
people probably know. But those are the other former Fever
through through three members, isn't it Yes, Yeah, yeah, And

(55:39):
they were featured on The Architects Adam as well this Yeah,
but they had a record out. Then there was ms
Paint with No Separation. MS pant are a band who
you have mentioned on a few occasions, Sam, so if
you checked out No Separation.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yes I have.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
And again like they're a really cool sort of hardcore
band in the kind of like the Post or Turnstile World. Again,
it's it's hardcore, but it's all electronic, and they're of
carrying on that. They're getting a little bit more experimental
with it. I feel like this is almost kind of
like a taste of where they could go on the
next Fall length. But it is a really cool, kind
of like more short form glimpse of where they could
go yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
And then the hardcore EP that everyone was raised about
last week was a self titled release from a man
called crow Quill, which is as you would kind of
imagine your early two thousand style metallic hardcore, you know,
related to some of the converses we may have just
been having. But I listened to this one earlier and
this one, actually, this one really sounds like early vein
to me, Like it's that kind of like the needly

(56:33):
stabby thing that they were doing early on.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
It's got a little bit more that chaos sort of
like that you are, that kind of like stabbing like
nastiness to it rather than just the straight up point
in my worship, I think this is really cool again
Will I will lap up all these EPs, but this
is another one person one Like, Okay, this has got,
you know, potentially something more going on to it that
I'm like, I'm going to like put this in the
similar vein of like Balmora and stuff like that, where

(56:58):
I can be like, there's a bit more to these guys.
It can be worth keeping an eye on.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Yeah, Like I say that one I thought was really
for fans of like Vain and stuff like that. So
there you go. Let's move on to today, the final
release week of May. The biggest one, in my mind
maybe is the fact that Swan's certainly biggest in terms
of duration. Swans are releasing their album called Birthing. It's
as mostly anyway. Yeah, it was about two years ago.

(57:25):
They are productive considering their albums are two hours long.
This one is interesting. I feel again, I feel like
I've heard this banded around with some other other records.
I feel like we've been talking about kind of the
last incarnation of Swans for a long time, but this
one they've said is going to be their last kind
of like overwhelming wall of sound type record, and then

(57:45):
Michael wants to kind of like retreat into doing much
more stripped back. Maybe could amagine more acoustical or something,
but kind of, you know, in terms of the huge,
you know, noise, post rock one in a million thing
that Swans have been for over a decade now. Supposedly
this record is a kind of conclusion of that kind
of chapter of this one's career. So they're touring at

(58:06):
the end of the year, and they said that can
be the last tour of like that you know style
of the band. So certainly if you want to see
that material they've done, you know, you should go to
that tour. But the final record of that guys, if
they are to be believed Birthing is out today, then
there is of course alt rock, Titans, Garbage releasing a
new record card Let all that we imagine be the Light.
Then add this in last minute because I've kind of

(58:28):
forgotten about it because it wasn't on the schedule because
of course they hadn't surprise announced it. Straight from the
Path obviously if slam Dunk is, you know, true, then
they will have a recordcord. I think clockworked out this
coming Friday, which of course many many people will be
looking forward to because Straight from the Path are great
in that kind of hardcore if you just need more

(58:49):
like ass beating after that desolated a back. This is
a blast in the past, isn't it? Desolated them aback
with finding Peace. You're a big desolated firm.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
I've always really liked desolated stupid music, just the most
kind of like knuckle dragging beatdown thing.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
But they were good at it. And I will listen to.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
A new death Head album and I'm sure it will
just be you know, twenty eight minutes of beat downs
with maybe the odd kind of like slightly different thing
thrown in there.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
But yeah, it's gonna be violent music. I'm gonna have
a good time of it.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
It's gonna be hard. Then we have the Haunted with
a new record called Songs of Last Resort. The Haunted
the long running Swedish thrash band I guess you would
call them. They're playing Damnation at the end of the year,
so if you want to get up to speed on that,
then there's a new Haunted record out. Rivers of Nil
have a self titled album out the you know, progressive
kind of technical death metal band. Then there is the

(59:38):
band vill Charter with a record with a long Swedish title.
I've rereadly just butchered their actual name, so I won't
attempt that one. But interesting band in terms of their
fan base I suppose, and where they fit because they
are like a gent band. Yeah, but they almost like
they were ever into this band, they would They almost
have their own weird little like sub sector of gen

(59:59):
because everything obsessed with the Fall thing, weren't they.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Yeah, Like again, they all in the gemp Banzo like
aware of never got super intext. It's kind of like, yeah,
like this is maybe it's not as like dumb enough
for me when I was into that a lot of stuff.
But I was surprised to see they're still going because
I'm just not thought about this band in about ten years,
so like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah, they're not they're not prolific, which is I guess
why it's notable. They got a new record out, but
there you go if you are feeling even more big brained.
After that, there's the kind of instrumental, you know, kind
of techie band called Kusa Nagi who got a record
out called Paramnesia. Then we're going to go a little
bit darker than that. There's the band Planning for Burial,
which is kind of a more kind of you know,

(01:00:37):
stylistically interesting kind of mix of things like shoe Gaze
and doom and drone and these kind of like areas.
But that's got a new record called It's Closeness It's Easy.
Then from I think Scotland, there's a band called Coven,
not spelled as an English person would spell to Coven.
It's kind of I would guess Gaelic, but you know,

(01:00:57):
coven with a W and an F with a record Sorrows,
and that is spooky doom type stuff. If you want
to go even just sludgier than that, there's the band
Grin with acid Gods. Speaking of bands who haven't been
around in a while, I'll surprised see this name. The
band Cults Blood, who were a Merseyside based, you know,
sort of sludge band from about ten years ago. They're

(01:01:17):
back with a new record called Obscured into Nebula Dust.
Then we're gonna pivot up to black metal. First up,
there's the band Tryvax with a very good black metal
record called The Great Satan, which sounds like a very
very like cliche does what it says on the tin title.
It's actually more complicated than that, because Trivax is a
band primarily led by a guy who essentially fled from

(01:01:40):
Iran and now you know, lives in the UK. And
it's a record heavily about essentially the kind of the
Islamist kind of dictator regime over there, and it's very
much kind of, you know, sort of a protest record
in that regard, and that's you know, they're reworking the
title and stuff to do with that. But the new
Trivac's record. I would say that's for fans of like
it's quite accessible black metal. So if you stuff like
Behemoth or wat Ain and stuff like that, then maybe

(01:02:03):
the new Trivac's record will be your band if you
want some more just sort of like Scandinavian type black melt.
There's the band Sparta Sin with Vortex of the Destroyer
and on Profound Law there is an Obsidian Tongue with
eclipsing World of Scorn. Finally, for the albums, there's a
band called Lord Vigo, which is kind of, I guess
sort of a heavy metal post punk sort of you know,

(01:02:25):
spooky epic heavy metal to some degree. I've only heard
a little bit of that. But they got a record
out called Walk the Shadows. Then finally we have we've
got an EP from the death metal band Vader, who
have got an EP called Human Nihil Human NIONI it
what the human Nihility. That's a little portmanteau that I
could not get out of my mouth there but human Nihility,
and that features the what is apparently the official anthem

(01:02:47):
for Mystic Festival twenty twenty five. I guess it's because
they're like local Polish festival or something, but they've done
that great and worm Rots have a live album out
called TNT. They've been teasing this for a while. I
don't know if it's like a studio orded live album
like in a session or something or where it was recorded,
but or worm Rot new record out called TNT that
does us. Thank you very much for listening. I do

(01:03:11):
have to announce there is not going to be a
podcast next week. This is because I am after this.
I'm immediately I'm going to Fortress Festival in Scarborough, but
then with about twenty four hours turnaround, I am then
going to Mystic Festival in Poland. I'm going to hear
the official anthem of Mystic Festival. They're shipping me out there.
They shipping me to Poland to do that. So two

(01:03:32):
weeks time we'll be back here on Friday. I'll recap
the best stuff I saw and stuff like that. But
if you're waiting here every week, we will not have
a show next week. But thank you very much for
listening to this one. To fill your boots. There is
of course our I guess about five hours or something
total of Poison the Well special that has been done
over on the Patreon. Like I was saying otherwise as well.

(01:03:54):
When I return, we will get into we will plan
whatever I next special will be. But we'll also fairly swiftly.
We've got to get into some reviews and stuff again,
because while I'm away, like the Turftile album's coming out,
and you know, various other big things are happening in June,
so we will return to discuss all of that stuff.
That's it for right now, so cheers everybody. We will

(01:04:15):
see you again, see you back here in you know,
two weeks time on Friday, and until then, cheerio

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