July 31, 2025 • 36 mins
Musical drum stools strikes again, Dying Wish and Fleshwater set new records for the autumn, and the Poisoned Ascendancy shadiness raises its sassy head once again.
Releases:
Alice Cooper - The Revenge of Alice Cooper
Post Animal - Iron
Scalp - Not Worthy of Human Compassion
Kontusion - Insatiable Lust for Death
Nuovo Testamento - Trouble
Fit for a King - Lonely God
The Armed - The Future is Here and Everything Needs to Be Destroyed
Fox Lake - New World Heat
Hammer - Trapped
Hedonist - Scapulimancy
Kayo Dot - Every Rock, Every Half-Truth Under Reason
Car Bomb - Tiles Whisper Dreams
Saphir Levi - Follow Your Shadow
Releases:
Alice Cooper - The Revenge of Alice Cooper
Post Animal - Iron
Scalp - Not Worthy of Human Compassion
Kontusion - Insatiable Lust for Death
Nuovo Testamento - Trouble
Fit for a King - Lonely God
The Armed - The Future is Here and Everything Needs to Be Destroyed
Fox Lake - New World Heat
Hammer - Trapped
Hedonist - Scapulimancy
Kayo Dot - Every Rock, Every Half-Truth Under Reason
Car Bomb - Tiles Whisper Dreams
Saphir Levi - Follow Your Shadow
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello everybody, and welcome back to That's Not Mattter, we
your weekly rock and heavy music podcast, and welcome to
an addition here of Hyperblast. This is our rapid fire
news show where we let you know everything that's been
going on in the last week, all of the releases
that you're going to want to know about in the
middle of the summer. Right now today we are popping
in quite quick because right after this we are going
(00:47):
to be recording a probably several hour horror show for
the high tier tn M patron So shout out to
all that lot. But we have got today some fun
pieces of news to get into as well. This is
the week that, of course, the metal world has laid
Aussie to rest. I know that lots of people were
watching the you know, big kind of a funeral live
(01:08):
stream thing that was going on a day or two ago.
Thank you to everybody who said nice words about our
episode last week when obviously we had you know, we
had plans for that episode. And then you know, a
piece of news like that drops in your lap and
you've got to dedicate an awful lot of you know,
thought and time to it to really make it, as
(01:28):
you know, as dignified as it deserves. So just an
observation as well. What a week plus of kind of
sharing of passion and enthusiasm, you know for the man
and his body of work that I have generally just
witnessed amongst everybody these past seven plus days. You know,
keep that going. I say, last week, aside from that,
(01:49):
was our reviews show for July, where we spoke about,
along with you know, a record from the likes of
the Dirty Nil, which I'm sure a lot of people
were chomping at the bit to get into being fun
to see that go down. We also spoke about a
bunch of lesser known up and coming bands. I want
more opinions on those. I want everybody who again made
us as that show. But if you've not gone to
that those records yet, I want to know what you
(02:11):
think about Crown of Anguish or Blind Equation and these
kind of bands that we were talking about. So keep
that coming. Right today though we have got, as said,
some news. My name's Perry and Hayish. Off of that preamble,
Sam Dignant, you are back once again. Hello, Hello.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yes, I will say that Blind Equation album, I've been
able to sell that to a lot of mates, and
they've been well into it, like just that there's the
simps and all that sort of stuff is kind of
like really caught on a lot of my friends. So
that that one is going down well, and I hope
it is with the listeners as well.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Are you doing your bit for the crunk core revival? Oh?
Hell yeah, I of a serious strape.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah that is again.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It was just like do you I say, My friends
were like, who again love the miss Metal Corpse orf
And I was like, do you want metal corps? Like
the most my specimens, but actual like depth and substance
to it.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Here you go.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah. So that was fun stuff we had going on.
But our first story today is one that I kind
of can't believe that we're talking about this again because
this is, you know, a resurfacing of a story that
I guess is about six weeks old or something in
its initial form. And you know, we always have fun
when we have stories like this, and generally what happens
(03:22):
is I thought it would then kind of, you know,
it would be a thing we'd reminisce about, maybe we'd
come and give it a ribbing on the T and
M Awards at the end. Of the Year or something
like that. But I thought after Trivium kind of, you know,
did the gentlemanly move of trying to bury the hatchet.
I thought that both Trivia and Bullet and Valentine would
just kind of, I don't know, drift off into their
(03:42):
separate things that they wanted to be doing, and we
would just remember this little funny moment of a brief
spat that they had. But it's resurfaced this week, and
I guess, you know, you can't blame the side who
have maybe fired more more barbs about this. Bullet. My Valentine,
to bring you back up to speed, canceled the remaining
(04:04):
legs of the Poisoned Ascendancy Tour, where they were going
to be playing their Poison album alongside Trivium doing their
Ascendancy tour, and they said that it was so that
they could go back and prioritize work on a new album,
and there was skepticism about the validity of you know
that that reasoning people. I'm sure everybody listening has their
own belief whether they believe that is true or not. Whatever.
(04:26):
Trivium had some funny, little, you know, remarks about the
situation where we went, oh, Trivium getting their clause. Can't
exactly blame them, but then, as said, try to then
bury the hatchet a little bit bull of my Valentine.
This week have announced the Australian leg of the Poison
Tour sans Trivium. Obviously they have their own little support
(04:48):
bill of burns going out there, and I I mean,
you know, I saw Bullet Mountain on their own just
a few weeks ago in Poland performing the Poison separately
from Trivium, so I wonder how right will be going.
But upon the news a Bullets having canceled everything to
then go a work on your album, have then announced
their own separate Poison tour, Trivium specifically, Actually, Matt Hayfey,
(05:14):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Sometimes was the diplomat in the initial like spat as well,
And I think that that's something that's called me off
guard with this one is Matt was the one who,
when it all initially happened, was the one saying, like,
you know, we respect their decisions to that, and he
was one playing peacekeeper. And now he's gone, fuck this shit,
claws out. He is he's pissed.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So the first thing that happened in response to this is,
you know, probably within hours of the bullet announcement, Trivium
and you know, Matt's own account posted the lyrics of
the Trivium song Betrayer, and that is something that bands
just generally can do, right. They'll be like, oh, let's
do drive some streaming towards a particular song or something,
even if it is several years old. Just here's a song.
(05:56):
Do you like this one? Blah blah blah engagement. But
the timing of posting the full lyrics of Betrayer hours
after bullets announcement, people went, oh, okay, And I.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Think there was like this song is about like even
put little like discis on what the song is about
as a like people like stabbing in the back and
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And one was like, okay, Matt, sure, but then if that,
you know, could be kind of up for debate. There
was then a tweet that I believe has now been deleted,
but a tweet from Matt with you know, some some
asterisks in blocking out the words, but it was something
along the lines of gonna go cancel my blank to
work on my blank, but then cancel that blank to
(06:34):
work or you know, to announce a new blank with
obviously the words lining up to things like tour and
album and stuff and trivium. We said this last time,
but I love that it's happening again. They can be
like shady bitches time in a way that I don't
know only seems to come out when there is a
(06:55):
bit of a bit between their teeth. But golly, it is.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Shady is like the right word as well.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean that's what makes it kind of endearing almost,
is it's not you know, vitriolic and like hateful.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It's petty and shady like that. But the thing is
they are justified.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I think, like again, Matt who was the one who
was who came to Bullets defense when fans like, because
when you know, the thing announced like Paolo who's known
to be a bit of a shit star are online
he was gonna making digs rememb where their crew was,
and fans were very like, let's go after Bullet and
Matt was like, no, you know it, it's called affew situation.
He was a big man and he's got to be
(07:34):
a kick in the nuts if you've like you know,
kind of like not taking the fall, but like let
someone get away with fucking you over and then like
because they've said they're gonna do one thing. And then
Matt was very vocal about the Australian leg of the
Poisonousaid was the one they had you know.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Lined up to be announced next.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I hope they had some like the dates and like
planned and ready's basically be announced and that's and so
that when it's an Australian tour that then Bullets are announcing,
that's gonna you know, feel extra kind of like the
Fox going on guys, like what you're doing this to us?
And yeah, it just like Trivian fans have now kind
(08:11):
of gone like now the now, now like the gates
are open, we can now go after Bullet and so
like every social media post Bullet do, it's just Trivian
fans kind of in the responses to it, and I'm like,
what what did you expect, Matt, Like, come on now?
And it has And again the fans who kind of
speculated that oh this got they dropping Bullets off of
(08:31):
the talk because they were, you know, they didn't like
getting upstags by Truvim each night. Again, I love that thing,
but it does kind of you know, and lets those
fans genuinely now think like, yeah, that that's got to
be the reason, because the reason they gave clearly bullshit.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Don't want to go as you know, directly kind of
cynical as that, But no, I certainly think this does
kind of convey if it's you know, if it's untrue,
then as you're saying, this is the message it's been
allowed to be conveyed. Is the only thing you can
take from this is Bullet did not want to play
with Trivium. Like they're still doing the fucking talk. They're
(09:08):
playing all the places that they would probably have been
playing on the triviun thing. They've just decided they don't
want to do it with Trivium anymore. And yeah, I mean,
you know, when we get stories like this that aren't
too necessarily grave, but we can just appreciate Trivian being
messy bitches. What a season that is? So Yeahs followed
that one. I guess Hailey Williams caused a lot of
(09:31):
a stir this week as well by on her own website.
I believe it's her kind of hair dye good Die Young,
you know, branding website putting up for download what turned
out to be a seventeen track new completed solo album
that you could only listen to through this, you know,
(09:51):
like strange, quite retro looking website. It looks like a
real I'm downloading this album in two thousand and five
kind of scenario. And I guess we were waiting to see, like,
you know, okay, she got so the way is it
gonna appear or something? But after about a day or so,
that download from that website has been taken down, and
I you know, I've heard rumblings that maybe but even
(10:13):
by the time you're listening to this tomorrow, that that
album might be you know, released on streaming or something
or whatever. But all the effords we have right now
is a kind of you know, one pocket only of
if you grab that album enjoy. I you know, I
did not listen to it or hear it again. I'm
going to see if it appears somewhere else, but quite
fun stuff from Hailey Williams there.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, I didn't get a chance to listen to it
as well.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, it's a cool way to go about it,
I do think again, one of the things that like
I think Hailey resententing them to account is that Paramoor
fans are insane and extremely powasocial with her, and so
I don't forge how much you've seen or people Again,
every time Haley or Palm will do something, they're breaking
up apparently, and it's now yeah, like again, that's all
(10:57):
I've caught from this is the fans having meltdowns.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, I've seen speculation based on again the lyrics to
the songs. I haven't heard on this based on you know,
things like romantic relationships and stuff like that, and how
that might impact Paramore. As you say, Paramore have effectively
broken up in the eyes of their hardcore fan based
at least five times at this point. So we'll see
if that does happen. But certainly I can probably imagine
(11:23):
that there is going to be a you know, quite
substantial as well.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
The sounds of it new Helly Williams album maybe out
by the time you're listening to this, some albums that
are definitely coming out. We've got a few announced, primarily
new singles here we've got from kind of the hardcore world,
although obviously not the most you know, stringent corner of it.
Dying Wish we're going to talk about first of all,
who have announced their third album. They you know, are
(11:45):
pretty productive, aren't they. Feels like, very very recently we
were talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Two year album cycles.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
It feels like kind of like for them, like they're
on that kind of like just very solid, like fairly
quick turn around but not like rushed sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, I feel like it's even less than two years
since the last one. I feel like that one came
out on the end of the year or something. But anyway,
their third record, called Flesh Stays Together, out on Sharp
Turn Record September the twenty sixth. Is a new single
out promit called I'll Know You're Not Around and Dying
Wish I've been a funny one and quite a rapid one.
I suppose to try and you know track because like
(12:19):
I know, I loved Dying Wish when they were essentially
a mosh band, you know, when they were just like caustic, horrible,
like one of the most violent, you know, new kind
of metallic hardcore bands around. But quite quickly they have
you know, developed into something a little multi fasted. And
I will say this song is maybe the most kind
(12:40):
of like, certainly of their singles, the most kind of
like atmospheric and you know, broody one they've done today
in a way that I think is quite cool, because
I think the last album felt and again, maybe there's
stuff on I probably imagine there will be stuff on
this album that goes along with RIP as well. But
the last album felt more to me like a kind
of two thousand and four Kills which engage you, like,
you know, obviously when you saw them male stuff there,
it was cool, but it was also quite predictable in
(13:02):
what they were doing, whereas this is more genuinely sort
of doomy, like even when it goes heavy after the intro,
which is very sparse, it's quite doomy in its approach.
And you know the music video, Emma's wearing some kind
of like I know, the Crucible crossed with like Sadako
from The Ring, you know, like spooky you know, a tire.
(13:23):
It feels like quite a you know, leaning towards the eerie.
A side of what I like about.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, no, definitely.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I I mean I love Dane, which they might genuinely
be my sort of favorite band to break this side
of like Covid, I guess you could say, because obviously
they were kicking about before. But the first album was
like two thousand and twenty twenty one, wasn't it something
like that?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, so like there are a COVID Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
They are a band who really kind of like conversation
in the last five years. And I fucking love them
because I love you know, two thousand and four metalcore.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
What a shock? So what I've kind of been so
down with that move they've gone down.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
But this is when I was kind of like, I
joke this and when it come up, like, oh, how
two thousand and four and is and he was like,
not very Actually, it's it's different.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
It's it's way heavy on the amste.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I was like, great coolness what I want because I
think we said on the album we we kind of
liked just at just the sort of the pure sound
of that album, but we're kind of like, if there's
more that Dying Wish can offer at this point, and.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I think this is a kind of glimpse of that.
It is sparser, more atmospheric.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Again, like there is a something about the video which's
an address and the black Wig that I was kind
of like, it is giving me that kind of like
evanescence vibe a little bit, but like but darker and
way like nastier, and then when it does kick off,
it's still got that like that drum sound that you
want that I want from metalcore, Panic chords a real
kind of like stabbing guitar, So it is still like
(14:45):
just that violent metal core sort of thing that I love.
That poison with Dying Wish God getting up my metal
things mixed up, but with kind of an increasing melody,
but it's not the increasing melody isn't to kind of
go poppier and kind of more like radio metal, is
to just add atmosphere and more I guess melancholy and
sadness to the music. I think this is really fucking
(15:07):
great and it's got me very excited to sort of
see what shape this is going to take on the album.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Is it is going to be more like I say,
do mean sparse.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And atmospheric, or if this is kind of like an instruction
and it's going to go down a bit more than
two thousand and four or get violent, But I think
really exciting stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, great production as well. Then we also have Fleshwater
are announcing their second album. This is one that I
think we were kind of waiting for because the first
Fleshwater album seemed to i mean, like even you know,
kind of in the months after its release or whatever,
it seemed to like, you know, really carve out a
bit of a you know, a following for them. So
(15:44):
the follow up to it is called two thousand in
Search of the Endless Sky, which I don't know what
that means, but it gives me kind of you know,
kind of concept you know, like rose tinted nostalgia, but
maybe on a darker side of it. Who knows, you
have a sort of a allennial concept album idea. I'm already
been painted into my head without hearing anything else from it,
(16:05):
but that's coming out on September the fifth, out via
a Closed Casket, and there is a song from this
which is called Jetpack. And Fleshwater are more interesting bound
to sort of categorize, I think, because again if you
do not really know Fleshwater, they have sort of like
they popped out of Vein with you know, members of
Vain like Anthony their vocalists, guitarist and co vocalist in
(16:28):
this band. But in terms of reach and popularity there
maybe going slightly beyond what Vein were because it is,
you know, for a start, it's not as you know,
like hyper violent, but there was a mix of kind
of that sort of you know, veiny kind of you know,
darkness with things like alternative rock and shoegates and stuff
(16:48):
like that. And this song, compared to the first Fleshortter album,
which I really liked, is much more shoegate, right, Like,
this is like an alternative rock song, and part of
me goes, if flesh Water move away from that particular
sort of sinewiness which I like and just turn into
one of these kind of shoegaze bands, I will be
(17:08):
less interested because the first album has again a lot
of that shadowy eeriness that I associate with something like vain,
even though this has more of like a you know,
a poppy female vocal and stuff like that. But I
will say this song is good and it is more
multi dimensional than a lot of that stuff that you
think of the shoe Gay's alternative rock that comes out
the hardcore world. Like, there is definitely more going on
(17:31):
to this, whether it's the vocal interplay, the the you know,
the production. This is a you know, still an intriguing
look into where they might be developing.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, I agree, I mean I think of that kind
of like shoegaze like hard Goat Jus, which there is
so much of now Flesh what I still feel like
one of the more kind of like interesting and developed bands.
Obviously like there is you know, a load of Deftones
the sort of touches to this as well. But they
again as if they said the vocal dynamic it isn't
as dark and kind of like menacing as the Baby.
(18:03):
But I still think this is for a brighter sounding
kind of like Huegay's song. There's more kind of interesting
ideas ninfey going on. I think that the hooks are stronger.
I'm again really into this. I think it's a very
cool sort first taste and I'm excitedly hear the album.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, and speaking of dark and sinewy, we also have Sabaton,
who have finally they always seem to be releasing singles.
I swear there's a new Sabaton single every like two
months for the last five years at least, but several
of them are going to appear on a new album
called Legends, which is out on October the seventeenth, and
it's got a typically crazy Sabaton album cover with lots
(18:39):
of figures from history the concept for this one because
they've just come off of those pair of World War
One albums. This is going more to like, you know,
great iconic figures of history with songs including you know,
subjects like Julius Caesar and Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte.
So if you want to hear a Sabaton song, saw the.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Weeb artwork version of it, like the Samurai sawds and shiit.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Either is that the one with the big that's for the.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
New one of the new singles or something, but I saw.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I don't know what is with Palmel bands in Japan
at the moment, but they've all decided they want to
they want to go through their web phase and get
a samuraiz on.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oh right, yeah, that's for one of the new singles
they've just released. But yeah, their overall album cover has
load of shit on it. But if you want to
hear a Abaton song where I'm sure they will convey
the mass horror of the hordes of Genghis Khan or
what Napoleon Bonaparte, you know, unleased across Europe, then that
will be coming on October the seventeenth President have announced
(19:35):
their first headline run as a band. President is of
course a band has emerged over the last few months,
had their first show at Download Festival and all of
this stuff. They've announced their debut EP is going to
be coming soon and also a first headline run where
you know, including but not limited to, they are going
to be headlining the Forum in London. And let's keep
(19:58):
this brief because they're so little to really even go
off with President, but going to the Forum when you
are really in the same amount of where you go
our debut EP is coming up? What is going on
with people?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Like, I mean, he's the combination of they've got a famous,
relatively lead singer and is that anonymity law slop kind
of like thing that is just all the maazement. But
I'm just like, I'm so checked out at this part.
I can't bother to hate. Like just whatever, go enjoy
your six songs that you're gonna pay forty quid to.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
See five songs and a Deaftones cover because we need
more of those right now. But yeah, President debut EP
coming soon and they're also playing the fucking Forum and
several other large venues around the UK. Food Fighters and
nine inch Nails have you know, grabbed a few headline
just have interest and novelty factor because they seem to
(20:53):
have basically swapped drummers. Ilan Rubin, who has been nine
It's Nails drummer for the past quite a long time now.
Actually he must be one of their longest serving drummers.
I think he's great in nine It's now is. I
think I might be quite sorry to see him go
because I've only ever seen them with him on the drums,
and he was always you know, he has a president,
a president, he has a presence and he brings you
(21:14):
know something to that show. But he is going to
be going to join the Foo Fighters, who of course
let go of their drummer. Josh Freese not gonna go
and Josh Frees, who played for nine Inch Nails in
the mid two thousands is going to be returning to
nine it Is Nails is full.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
On transfer window like football transfer windows, sort of shenanigans here.
I mean, if you think of like the two sort
of superstar drummers who are kind of like freelancers, almost
all go where they are, aren't sort of fixed director
to anyone banned.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
They're the top two, aren't they?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You going to can think of, and it makes trade
them if they're available.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I mean, Josh Josh Freese is the king of that.
And there is this like, as you say, a weird
little like community of like shared for higher drummers who
have become so successful doing that. I mean, drummer swap
is alway funny because we remember the three way slipknot
suicidal attendency seculturier scenario from not long ago. But I
was looking into this and there's more to it than
(22:09):
just the direct swap, because Illan Rubin played for Lost
Prophets actually in the two thousands, and he, you know,
went into the band after the Liberation Transmission session drums
had been recorded by Josh Friese. Yeah, and then of
course Ilan Rubin replaced Josh fries originally in the late
(22:32):
two thousands when Josh Freese left the band. And then
we go even further where in recent years when Danny
Elfman has played a couple of live shows, Ilan Rubin
replaced Josh fries as the drummer of So these two
I'm getting an image a bit like you know that
film The Duellists, where it's like these two people whenever
they lock Eyes. It's like, ah, it's you again. They
(22:55):
have tag teamed each other out and replaced each other
again and again in so many bands they must have
the weirdest like relationship.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Just need Illan to join Wheeze at some point. Now,
I don't we like.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That's the only one that they haven't you know, haven't
like done together at this one yet.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
But yeah, no, it's it's a it's a weird.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
And again I don't know if it's just they are,
you know, the super drummers who will kind of just
float around. But and then it feels like he's been
in like I saying Nine's house for a good while.
That's that sort of surprised me. It felt like he
was almost like settled in as their drummer.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Now. Yeah, and obviously Nine is Nails have been touring,
you know, consistently for a couple months now, and I
wonder how just immediately that's what will be. But yeah,
the drummer transfer windows and transfer news continues in amusing fashion.
If you are a little goblin preton and you'd like
me like going to places like Fortress Festival, which is
the great black metal festival that occurs in Scarborough, every
(23:49):
year they have announced a big load of new bands
for next year. The only existing announcement for next year's
Fortress Festival was The Old Man's Child featuring Golder formerly
of Demi Borgear his kind of band. We're gonna be
one of the two headliners. But they have followed it
up now with a whole load of bands and there
is some really fucking good and exciting stuff where I
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look at this and I'm already so ready to do
Fortress again and see this stuff. So along with Old
Man's Child headlining the other one, this really took me
off guard because I think the headliners that Fortress get
that no one else will have ever heard of. Right,
This band have about like five thousand Spotlight Spotify monthly listeners.
But it's also like a really good pick to close
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the festival is a band called Gallo Braid, which is
Jake from Visigoth Okay, his old black metal band from
about twenty ten. They have released one album and never
ever played live, and this is their first ever live show,
like over fifteen years after that one record was released,
Like yeah, we're gonna come and play it, and they've
(24:58):
said like yeah, it's gonna be Gallo Braid playing that
you know record and more, they don't have any other material,
and so my mind goes to Jake Rogers and Visigoth's
other early twins black metal band Kaladan Brood, which is
one of my favorite fucking things ever. And I'm like,
if they have like thirty minutes at the end of
their slot and they drop in a Kaladan Brood song,
then I will just absolutely explode. The chances that happened.
(25:21):
I don't know if they are high or not, but
like either way, Gallabray's really good as well, exciting again
like novelty, How the fuck have this kind of come
out of nowhere to like headline a festival elsewhere a
man who are probably bigger than Galid Braid, But there
you go, DoD Hinsguard, You're going to be playing Fortress
next year and they are going to be doing a
set playing their black Medium Current, their latest record, which
(25:45):
has been you know, pretty CANNONI you did the last
couple of years as basically like a black metal or
like a you know, an avant garde extreme metal, you know,
master Stroke, Like everyone agrees that that record is basically
a modern classic. So them coming back and playing that
is I'm shrugging, but I'm just saying, you know, I'm
giving you the report from my side of events, right,
you know, my world. When I saw Darheim's Guard last
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year or whatever it was, they only played six or
six international and before. So it's quite cool to now
get an order to actually see the new stuff. And elsewhere.
There are the likes of mis Theming are going to
be coming back here, a brilliant Darken Nocturne Slaughter Cult,
who are a really good band who have one of
the best names in the world. And there is going
to be an increase of Dungeon Synth presence.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
The one you're really excited for, isn't it. This is
the thing on the land up I go. I bet
Perry is like so happy about this.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, well, I mean I've seen Mortis before when he
supported Mayhem a few years ago. But they've announced that
the theater stage where this year they had a lot of
like folkey and acoustic bands and stuff, this year they're
going to be filling it with a load of Dungeon Synth.
And so there are like other acts who have been
announced as well. But Mortis, as you know, he like
he is the king of Dungeon since like it's his
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genre basically the biggest possible thing in that world that
you could get to the point that that theater stage,
I'm telling you it's not that big. It is going
to be rammed like I am. I'm hoping I can
see Mortis, but I might not be able to. Like
it's gonna be a real get into that room to
see get in for the Dungeons, simple exactly. So a
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bunch of really like Fortress after that, Abigail Williams actually
announced as well, who are a longtime favorite band of mine,
even though I've never seen them live. So there's a
lot now that's making Fortress next year look very very
tasty indeed, even with maybe lacking like a really big name,
you know, like it's just underground cool stuff. Over in America.
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John Bush has announced three shows later this year various
cities around the US where he is going to be
playing material from his his years in Anthrax. So that
is the sound of White Noise, Stump four four two,
Volume eight, The Threat is Real and We've come for you.
All albums from you know, the mid nineties and early
two thousands. Two of those records Sound of White Noise
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and We've Come for you All at least are really good,
well loved albums, so you know, if you can get
out to one of those shows, it's quite cool to
actually see him, you know, kind of giving that material.
It's it's airing because Anthrax obviously have not really done
that stuff in a long time. And Warning have announced
that they have signed to Relapse Records for their first
new album in twenty years. It will be coming out
(28:21):
later this year. The kind of you know, the initial
learning that there is new Warning has already happened because
when they were announced for Damnation Festival quite a while ago.
Now they were like, we're playing you know, the Watching
from a Distance album, which is they're one that they
will all we do, but there will also be new material,
and everyone went, oh, my fucking god, what do you
mean there's new Warning. So we reready knew that was coming,
but you know, further news on it's you know, manifesting here.
(28:44):
It's going to be coming through Relapse later in the year.
I imagine ahead of Damnation. We will talk about some
Warning on this show and when that record, you know,
the new one arrives, that will be like the do
Metal event of the of the decade, So awesome exciting
stuff there over on Petreon this week, As I said before,
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in just a moment, me and Sam are going to
be returning to the T and M does Horror well
to speak about what has been a really big talking
point over the past month or a bit, which is
the twenty eight Days Later franchise. Of course, the new
movie twenty eight years Later, finally released after as we're
(29:27):
gonna describe on this show like many many years of
speculation as to whether there would ever be a third,
you know, twenty eight movie, and it has proven a
very very interesting, rich one to talk about. So along
with that, we are going to be doing as we
often do, we put these things together. We're also going
to be talking about the game changing movie from the
(29:50):
early twenty twenty eight days Later, and we are going
to be talking about it's maybe slightly underdiscussed sequel, but
I think there's some really interesting start to dig in
there as well, twenty eight weeks later, further into the
two thousands, These this series and these movies are some
of my favorites and some of the most integral to me.
(30:10):
I am treating this like a big one in the
way that we have treated the likes of Nosferatu or
are you know our big kind of director horror episodes
that we've done, Sam, I know that you like these movies,
but I'm maybe not quite as I know, fanatical about
them as I am so like you know, I'm tentatively
ahead of our recording session we're about to do in
a minute. I'm like, Okay, how far are we going
(30:32):
to go with this? But they are, you know, such seminal, integral,
iconic pieces of horror of the twenty first century. If
you think about horror series that emerged in the twenty
first century, they are right right up there, and so
it's going to be quite exciting and interesting to get
into that. So that is over on the as I said,
the higher tier for everyone wh wants to give a
(30:53):
little bit extra and we hopefully reward you a little
bit with these like big long Oh my god, they
take so much work actually to do the notes on
these shows horror episodes that we do. We are also
our you know, our host kind of communications have been
like absolutely a buzz for the past kind of a
couple of weeks because we are working on a special
(31:15):
that we are gonna do at some point on the
other side of Bloodstot Festival. When we come back from
that and we've done our coverage of that, We're then
gonna knuckle down and do this thing. And I will
not say what it is right now, but it is
the most like and the unknown quantity bit of fun.
This is gonna be a wild ride of a few
hours special that we have put together in quite some time.
(31:38):
So if you like that side of the you know,
the spectrum of what TNM does and the tones we
take on, I suppose then some hot takes.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
There's gonna be some hot takes in that special.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I reckon it's I mean, there's gonna be hot takes
that people don't even believe. It's just gonna be nuts.
So if that's where and your appetite, then that is
gonna be coming, as I said, just in a couple
of weeks time, on the other side of Bloodstot Festival.
So patroon dot com, slash That's Not Metal is where
you go for all of that. It is what keeps
this podcast alive. So thank you everybody who does that.
(32:08):
Let's finish up this hyperclasts with the releases for last week,
I suppose we had a few when we dine the
Reviews episode, and then we've also got the first releases
to come out of August this year. So last week
there was Alice Cooper's The Revenge of Alice Cooper. If
you remember, on the New Show, there was the mad
announcement that the original Alice Cooper band, not Alice Cooper
the solo artist, but the original most Dangerous band of
(32:29):
the World, you know, banned from the early seventies, were
going to be coming together for their first album in
something like fifty years, and how crazy that was. That
record was released last week, and obviously you can't really
expect it to be exactly the same or I don't know,
exactly as cutting edge as it may have been in
nineteen seventy two. But if you are a hardcore Alix
Cooper fan, there's inherent interest in that. So that record
(32:52):
was out for you to hear. Then there was Post
Animal with a record I in which I saw this
record on the kind of release you know, like schedule
and stuff like that, I was like, Okay, what's this.
I think it's a kind of sort of I don't know,
a folky rock, maybe a bit of post rock or something,
and then without knowing it at all, it was like, oh,
it's Joe Keery from Stranger Things, this band, but I've
heard some good things about that record, so that's post animal.
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Then a couple of just really bastard heavy albums. There
is a record from a band called Scalp, which both
of these are you know, maybe on the sort of
periphery between like hardcore and death metal. This one maybe
leans more hardcore. A band called Scalp were a recordord
not Worthy of Human Compassion, which just sounds hard, doesn't it.
And then on the more like utterly brutish, chaotic death
(33:36):
metal end of it, the band Contusion released Insatiable Lust
for Death. And then there was an EP last week
from Nuovo Testamento called Trouble, who are the Italian slash
American eighties and on this EP now a bit of
nineties pop as well, that I have described as a
band I love. I've seen them live a couple of times.
(33:57):
I think they're great, and I would have, you know,
I would have kept them outside of necessarily the T
and M bubble, but they are so ingrained in hardcore.
They plain sound and fury a couple of weeks ago,
and I'm pretty sure they're going out on tour supporting
Scowl and soun Army in America soon, which is incredible.
So I guess they're just in.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
As you get.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I could totally see him playing like Stow. That makes
antal sense to me. Obviously they did the remix, but
it's the fouge of them that sound and furial people
like dancing across the stage before they stay so I
have like full on hip shaking it and vibing out
to it. I'm like, I'm glad they are now in
like our sort of world so that we get to
talk about it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, so like.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Literally this is a synth pop record. It's a synth
pop band. Yeah, great at that thing. But I guess
they're also a hardcore band now because they play sound
and fury, so they're in then today. As I said
first of August, releases are fit for a king, very
long running commercial metalcore band. Now release a record Lonely
God the Armed. In terms of much weirder hardcore and
(34:54):
metal corp, I suppose are releasing a record call the
Future is here and everything needs to be destroyed. I
find it hard to keep up with the Arm because
they're just there are hard bands to pin down at
the best of times, and they're also quite prolific. But
New Armed is out. Then there is a band called
fox Lake, which I believe are a kind of sort
of hardcore mixed with hip hop. You know, you can
expect a lot of wrapping, electronics and stuff involved with this,
(35:15):
releasing a record called New World Heat. A couple of
death metal records, there's one in the UK from a
band just called Hammer and their record is called Trapped
and I love. On this record, there's a song called
just something like trapped in the House with a Maniac.
It just really does what it says on the tin.
And then there is an called Hedonist with a record
(35:36):
called Scapuli Mancy, which is like Southern lord death metal
of the maybe more variety we would have seen more
often ten plus years ago. You know, a lot of
bolt Throw, but a lot of HM two E vibes
as well, if that is your your flavor of death metal.
Then there is the I guess progressive rock band Ko
Dot former members of Maudland of the Well, that kind
(35:57):
of thing, releasing a record called Every Rock, Every Half
Truth Under Reason and then your EP of the bunch
today comes from car Bomb, the returning Laser Shooting MANIAX.
The Carbomb EP called Tiled Whisper Dream. So have you
filled with those cheers? Everybody? Let us know what your
favorites are. As said, we are gonna be hopping over
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doing ATM does Horror, which should be you know, if
it's not out by the time you are hearing it
right now, it should be uploaded at some point over
the course of the day. On the weekend on T
and M. What on T horror doing the twenty days
later movies Next week is Bloodstock, So I'll see if
we manage to get an episode out before that. If not,
then we will return with coverage of Bloodstock. We'll see
(36:40):
everybody there who's there? And yeah, cheers guys. We'll see
you next time. Bye bye,
Hello everybody, and welcome back to That's Not Mattter, we
your weekly rock and heavy music podcast, and welcome to
an addition here of Hyperblast. This is our rapid fire
news show where we let you know everything that's been
going on in the last week, all of the releases
that you're going to want to know about in the
middle of the summer. Right now today we are popping
in quite quick because right after this we are going
(00:47):
to be recording a probably several hour horror show for
the high tier tn M patron So shout out to
all that lot. But we have got today some fun
pieces of news to get into as well. This is
the week that, of course, the metal world has laid
Aussie to rest. I know that lots of people were
watching the you know, big kind of a funeral live
(01:08):
stream thing that was going on a day or two ago.
Thank you to everybody who said nice words about our
episode last week when obviously we had you know, we
had plans for that episode. And then you know, a
piece of news like that drops in your lap and
you've got to dedicate an awful lot of you know,
thought and time to it to really make it, as
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you know, as dignified as it deserves. So just an
observation as well. What a week plus of kind of
sharing of passion and enthusiasm, you know for the man
and his body of work that I have generally just
witnessed amongst everybody these past seven plus days. You know,
keep that going. I say, last week, aside from that,
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was our reviews show for July, where we spoke about,
along with you know, a record from the likes of
the Dirty Nil, which I'm sure a lot of people
were chomping at the bit to get into being fun
to see that go down. We also spoke about a
bunch of lesser known up and coming bands. I want
more opinions on those. I want everybody who again made
us as that show. But if you've not gone to
that those records yet, I want to know what you
(02:11):
think about Crown of Anguish or Blind Equation and these
kind of bands that we were talking about. So keep
that coming. Right today though we have got, as said,
some news. My name's Perry and Hayish. Off of that preamble,
Sam Dignant, you are back once again. Hello, Hello.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yes, I will say that Blind Equation album, I've been
able to sell that to a lot of mates, and
they've been well into it, like just that there's the
simps and all that sort of stuff is kind of
like really caught on a lot of my friends. So
that that one is going down well, and I hope
it is with the listeners as well.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Are you doing your bit for the crunk core revival? Oh?
Hell yeah, I of a serious strape.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah that is again.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It was just like do you I say, My friends
were like, who again love the miss Metal Corpse orf
And I was like, do you want metal corps? Like
the most my specimens, but actual like depth and substance
to it.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Here you go.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah. So that was fun stuff we had going on.
But our first story today is one that I kind
of can't believe that we're talking about this again because
this is, you know, a resurfacing of a story that
I guess is about six weeks old or something in
its initial form. And you know, we always have fun
when we have stories like this, and generally what happens
(03:22):
is I thought it would then kind of, you know,
it would be a thing we'd reminisce about, maybe we'd
come and give it a ribbing on the T and
M Awards at the end. Of the Year or something
like that. But I thought after Trivium kind of, you know,
did the gentlemanly move of trying to bury the hatchet.
I thought that both Trivia and Bullet and Valentine would
just kind of, I don't know, drift off into their
(03:42):
separate things that they wanted to be doing, and we
would just remember this little funny moment of a brief
spat that they had. But it's resurfaced this week, and
I guess, you know, you can't blame the side who
have maybe fired more more barbs about this. Bullet. My Valentine,
to bring you back up to speed, canceled the remaining
(04:04):
legs of the Poisoned Ascendancy Tour, where they were going
to be playing their Poison album alongside Trivium doing their
Ascendancy tour, and they said that it was so that
they could go back and prioritize work on a new album,
and there was skepticism about the validity of you know
that that reasoning people. I'm sure everybody listening has their
own belief whether they believe that is true or not. Whatever.
(04:26):
Trivium had some funny, little, you know, remarks about the
situation where we went, oh, Trivium getting their clause. Can't
exactly blame them, but then, as said, try to then
bury the hatchet a little bit bull of my Valentine.
This week have announced the Australian leg of the Poison
Tour sans Trivium. Obviously they have their own little support
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bill of burns going out there, and I I mean,
you know, I saw Bullet Mountain on their own just
a few weeks ago in Poland performing the Poison separately
from Trivium, so I wonder how right will be going.
But upon the news a Bullets having canceled everything to
then go a work on your album, have then announced
their own separate Poison tour, Trivium specifically, Actually, Matt Hayfey,
(05:14):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Sometimes was the diplomat in the initial like spat as well,
And I think that that's something that's called me off
guard with this one is Matt was the one who,
when it all initially happened, was the one saying, like,
you know, we respect their decisions to that, and he
was one playing peacekeeper. And now he's gone, fuck this shit,
claws out. He is he's pissed.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So the first thing that happened in response to this is,
you know, probably within hours of the bullet announcement, Trivium
and you know, Matt's own account posted the lyrics of
the Trivium song Betrayer, and that is something that bands
just generally can do, right. They'll be like, oh, let's
do drive some streaming towards a particular song or something,
even if it is several years old. Just here's a song.
(05:56):
Do you like this one? Blah blah blah engagement. But
the timing of posting the full lyrics of Betrayer hours
after bullets announcement, people went, oh, okay, And I.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Think there was like this song is about like even
put little like discis on what the song is about
as a like people like stabbing in the back and
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And one was like, okay, Matt, sure, but then if that,
you know, could be kind of up for debate. There
was then a tweet that I believe has now been deleted,
but a tweet from Matt with you know, some some
asterisks in blocking out the words, but it was something
along the lines of gonna go cancel my blank to
work on my blank, but then cancel that blank to
(06:34):
work or you know, to announce a new blank with
obviously the words lining up to things like tour and
album and stuff and trivium. We said this last time,
but I love that it's happening again. They can be
like shady bitches time in a way that I don't
know only seems to come out when there is a
(06:55):
bit of a bit between their teeth. But golly, it is.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Shady is like the right word as well.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean that's what makes it kind of endearing almost,
is it's not you know, vitriolic and like hateful.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It's petty and shady like that. But the thing is
they are justified.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I think, like again, Matt who was the one who
was who came to Bullets defense when fans like, because
when you know, the thing announced like Paolo who's known
to be a bit of a shit star are online
he was gonna making digs rememb where their crew was,
and fans were very like, let's go after Bullet and
Matt was like, no, you know it, it's called affew situation.
He was a big man and he's got to be
(07:34):
a kick in the nuts if you've like you know,
kind of like not taking the fall, but like let
someone get away with fucking you over and then like
because they've said they're gonna do one thing. And then
Matt was very vocal about the Australian leg of the
Poisonousaid was the one they had you know.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Lined up to be announced next.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I hope they had some like the dates and like
planned and ready's basically be announced and that's and so
that when it's an Australian tour that then Bullets are announcing,
that's gonna you know, feel extra kind of like the
Fox going on guys, like what you're doing this to us?
And yeah, it just like Trivian fans have now kind
(08:11):
of gone like now the now, now like the gates
are open, we can now go after Bullet and so
like every social media post Bullet do, it's just Trivian
fans kind of in the responses to it, and I'm like,
what what did you expect, Matt, Like, come on now?
And it has And again the fans who kind of
speculated that oh this got they dropping Bullets off of
(08:31):
the talk because they were, you know, they didn't like
getting upstags by Truvim each night. Again, I love that thing,
but it does kind of you know, and lets those
fans genuinely now think like, yeah, that that's got to
be the reason, because the reason they gave clearly bullshit.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Don't want to go as you know, directly kind of
cynical as that, But no, I certainly think this does
kind of convey if it's you know, if it's untrue,
then as you're saying, this is the message it's been
allowed to be conveyed. Is the only thing you can
take from this is Bullet did not want to play
with Trivium. Like they're still doing the fucking talk. They're
(09:08):
playing all the places that they would probably have been
playing on the triviun thing. They've just decided they don't
want to do it with Trivium anymore. And yeah, I mean,
you know, when we get stories like this that aren't
too necessarily grave, but we can just appreciate Trivian being
messy bitches. What a season that is? So Yeahs followed
that one. I guess Hailey Williams caused a lot of
(09:31):
a stir this week as well by on her own website.
I believe it's her kind of hair dye good Die Young,
you know, branding website putting up for download what turned
out to be a seventeen track new completed solo album
that you could only listen to through this, you know,
(09:51):
like strange, quite retro looking website. It looks like a
real I'm downloading this album in two thousand and five
kind of scenario. And I guess we were waiting to see, like,
you know, okay, she got so the way is it
gonna appear or something? But after about a day or so,
that download from that website has been taken down, and
I you know, I've heard rumblings that maybe but even
(10:13):
by the time you're listening to this tomorrow, that that
album might be you know, released on streaming or something
or whatever. But all the effords we have right now
is a kind of you know, one pocket only of
if you grab that album enjoy. I you know, I
did not listen to it or hear it again. I'm
going to see if it appears somewhere else, but quite
fun stuff from Hailey Williams there.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, I didn't get a chance to listen to it
as well.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, it's a cool way to go about it,
I do think again, one of the things that like
I think Hailey resententing them to account is that Paramoor
fans are insane and extremely powasocial with her, and so
I don't forge how much you've seen or people Again,
every time Haley or Palm will do something, they're breaking
up apparently, and it's now yeah, like again, that's all
(10:57):
I've caught from this is the fans having meltdowns.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, I've seen speculation based on again the lyrics to
the songs. I haven't heard on this based on you know,
things like romantic relationships and stuff like that, and how
that might impact Paramore. As you say, Paramore have effectively
broken up in the eyes of their hardcore fan based
at least five times at this point. So we'll see
if that does happen. But certainly I can probably imagine
(11:23):
that there is going to be a you know, quite
substantial as well.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
The sounds of it new Helly Williams album maybe out
by the time you're listening to this, some albums that
are definitely coming out. We've got a few announced, primarily
new singles here we've got from kind of the hardcore world,
although obviously not the most you know, stringent corner of it.
Dying Wish we're going to talk about first of all,
who have announced their third album. They you know, are
(11:45):
pretty productive, aren't they. Feels like, very very recently we
were talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Two year album cycles.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
It feels like kind of like for them, like they're
on that kind of like just very solid, like fairly
quick turn around but not like rushed sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, I feel like it's even less than two years
since the last one. I feel like that one came
out on the end of the year or something. But anyway,
their third record, called Flesh Stays Together, out on Sharp
Turn Record September the twenty sixth. Is a new single
out promit called I'll Know You're Not Around and Dying
Wish I've been a funny one and quite a rapid one.
I suppose to try and you know track because like
(12:19):
I know, I loved Dying Wish when they were essentially
a mosh band, you know, when they were just like caustic, horrible,
like one of the most violent, you know, new kind
of metallic hardcore bands around. But quite quickly they have
you know, developed into something a little multi fasted. And
I will say this song is maybe the most kind
(12:40):
of like, certainly of their singles, the most kind of
like atmospheric and you know, broody one they've done today
in a way that I think is quite cool, because
I think the last album felt and again, maybe there's
stuff on I probably imagine there will be stuff on
this album that goes along with RIP as well. But
the last album felt more to me like a kind
of two thousand and four Kills which engage you, like,
you know, obviously when you saw them male stuff there,
it was cool, but it was also quite predictable in
(13:02):
what they were doing, whereas this is more genuinely sort
of doomy, like even when it goes heavy after the intro,
which is very sparse, it's quite doomy in its approach.
And you know the music video, Emma's wearing some kind
of like I know, the Crucible crossed with like Sadako
from The Ring, you know, like spooky you know, a tire.
(13:23):
It feels like quite a you know, leaning towards the eerie.
A side of what I like about.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, no, definitely.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I I mean I love Dane, which they might genuinely
be my sort of favorite band to break this side
of like Covid, I guess you could say, because obviously
they were kicking about before. But the first album was
like two thousand and twenty twenty one, wasn't it something
like that?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, so like there are a COVID Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
They are a band who really kind of like conversation
in the last five years. And I fucking love them
because I love you know, two thousand and four metalcore.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
What a shock? So what I've kind of been so
down with that move they've gone down.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
But this is when I was kind of like, I
joke this and when it come up, like, oh, how
two thousand and four and is and he was like,
not very Actually, it's it's different.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
It's it's way heavy on the amste.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I was like, great coolness what I want because I
think we said on the album we we kind of
liked just at just the sort of the pure sound
of that album, but we're kind of like, if there's
more that Dying Wish can offer at this point, and.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I think this is a kind of glimpse of that.
It is sparser, more atmospheric.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Again, like there is a something about the video which's
an address and the black Wig that I was kind
of like, it is giving me that kind of like
evanescence vibe a little bit, but like but darker and
way like nastier, and then when it does kick off,
it's still got that like that drum sound that you
want that I want from metalcore, Panic chords a real
kind of like stabbing guitar, So it is still like
(14:45):
just that violent metal core sort of thing that I love.
That poison with Dying Wish God getting up my metal
things mixed up, but with kind of an increasing melody,
but it's not the increasing melody isn't to kind of
go poppier and kind of more like radio metal, is
to just add atmosphere and more I guess melancholy and
sadness to the music. I think this is really fucking
(15:07):
great and it's got me very excited to sort of
see what shape this is going to take on the album.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Is it is going to be more like I say,
do mean sparse.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And atmospheric, or if this is kind of like an instruction
and it's going to go down a bit more than
two thousand and four or get violent, But I think
really exciting stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, great production as well. Then we also have Fleshwater
are announcing their second album. This is one that I
think we were kind of waiting for because the first
Fleshwater album seemed to i mean, like even you know,
kind of in the months after its release or whatever,
it seemed to like, you know, really carve out a
bit of a you know, a following for them. So
(15:44):
the follow up to it is called two thousand in
Search of the Endless Sky, which I don't know what
that means, but it gives me kind of you know,
kind of concept you know, like rose tinted nostalgia, but
maybe on a darker side of it. Who knows, you
have a sort of a allennial concept album idea. I'm already
been painted into my head without hearing anything else from it,
(16:05):
but that's coming out on September the fifth, out via
a Closed Casket, and there is a song from this
which is called Jetpack. And Fleshwater are more interesting bound
to sort of categorize, I think, because again if you
do not really know Fleshwater, they have sort of like
they popped out of Vein with you know, members of
Vain like Anthony their vocalists, guitarist and co vocalist in
(16:28):
this band. But in terms of reach and popularity there
maybe going slightly beyond what Vein were because it is,
you know, for a start, it's not as you know,
like hyper violent, but there was a mix of kind
of that sort of you know, veiny kind of you know,
darkness with things like alternative rock and shoegates and stuff
(16:48):
like that. And this song, compared to the first Fleshortter album,
which I really liked, is much more shoegate, right, Like,
this is like an alternative rock song, and part of
me goes, if flesh Water move away from that particular
sort of sinewiness which I like and just turn into
one of these kind of shoegaze bands, I will be
(17:08):
less interested because the first album has again a lot
of that shadowy eeriness that I associate with something like vain,
even though this has more of like a you know,
a poppy female vocal and stuff like that. But I
will say this song is good and it is more
multi dimensional than a lot of that stuff that you
think of the shoe Gay's alternative rock that comes out
the hardcore world. Like, there is definitely more going on
(17:31):
to this, whether it's the vocal interplay, the the you know,
the production. This is a you know, still an intriguing
look into where they might be developing.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, I agree, I mean I think of that kind
of like shoegaze like hard Goat Jus, which there is
so much of now Flesh what I still feel like
one of the more kind of like interesting and developed bands.
Obviously like there is you know, a load of Deftones
the sort of touches to this as well. But they
again as if they said the vocal dynamic it isn't
as dark and kind of like menacing as the Baby.
(18:03):
But I still think this is for a brighter sounding
kind of like Huegay's song. There's more kind of interesting
ideas ninfey going on. I think that the hooks are stronger.
I'm again really into this. I think it's a very
cool sort first taste and I'm excitedly hear the album.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, and speaking of dark and sinewy, we also have Sabaton,
who have finally they always seem to be releasing singles.
I swear there's a new Sabaton single every like two
months for the last five years at least, but several
of them are going to appear on a new album
called Legends, which is out on October the seventeenth, and
it's got a typically crazy Sabaton album cover with lots
(18:39):
of figures from history the concept for this one because
they've just come off of those pair of World War
One albums. This is going more to like, you know,
great iconic figures of history with songs including you know,
subjects like Julius Caesar and Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte.
So if you want to hear a Sabaton song, saw the.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Weeb artwork version of it, like the Samurai sawds and shiit.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Either is that the one with the big that's for the.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
New one of the new singles or something, but I saw.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I don't know what is with Palmel bands in Japan
at the moment, but they've all decided they want to
they want to go through their web phase and get
a samuraiz on.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oh right, yeah, that's for one of the new singles
they've just released. But yeah, their overall album cover has
load of shit on it. But if you want to
hear a Abaton song where I'm sure they will convey
the mass horror of the hordes of Genghis Khan or
what Napoleon Bonaparte, you know, unleased across Europe, then that
will be coming on October the seventeenth President have announced
(19:35):
their first headline run as a band. President is of
course a band has emerged over the last few months,
had their first show at Download Festival and all of
this stuff. They've announced their debut EP is going to
be coming soon and also a first headline run where
you know, including but not limited to, they are going
to be headlining the Forum in London. And let's keep
(19:58):
this brief because they're so little to really even go
off with President, but going to the Forum when you
are really in the same amount of where you go
our debut EP is coming up? What is going on
with people?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Like, I mean, he's the combination of they've got a famous,
relatively lead singer and is that anonymity law slop kind
of like thing that is just all the maazement. But
I'm just like, I'm so checked out at this part.
I can't bother to hate. Like just whatever, go enjoy
your six songs that you're gonna pay forty quid to.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
See five songs and a Deaftones cover because we need
more of those right now. But yeah, President debut EP
coming soon and they're also playing the fucking Forum and
several other large venues around the UK. Food Fighters and
nine inch Nails have you know, grabbed a few headline
just have interest and novelty factor because they seem to
(20:53):
have basically swapped drummers. Ilan Rubin, who has been nine
It's Nails drummer for the past quite a long time now.
Actually he must be one of their longest serving drummers.
I think he's great in nine It's now is. I
think I might be quite sorry to see him go
because I've only ever seen them with him on the drums,
and he was always you know, he has a president,
a president, he has a presence and he brings you
(21:14):
know something to that show. But he is going to
be going to join the Foo Fighters, who of course
let go of their drummer. Josh Freese not gonna go
and Josh Frees, who played for nine Inch Nails in
the mid two thousands is going to be returning to
nine it Is Nails is full.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
On transfer window like football transfer windows, sort of shenanigans here.
I mean, if you think of like the two sort
of superstar drummers who are kind of like freelancers, almost
all go where they are, aren't sort of fixed director
to anyone banned.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
They're the top two, aren't they?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You going to can think of, and it makes trade
them if they're available.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I mean, Josh Josh Freese is the king of that.
And there is this like, as you say, a weird
little like community of like shared for higher drummers who
have become so successful doing that. I mean, drummer swap
is alway funny because we remember the three way slipknot
suicidal attendency seculturier scenario from not long ago. But I
was looking into this and there's more to it than
(22:09):
just the direct swap, because Illan Rubin played for Lost
Prophets actually in the two thousands, and he, you know,
went into the band after the Liberation Transmission session drums
had been recorded by Josh Friese. Yeah, and then of
course Ilan Rubin replaced Josh fries originally in the late
(22:32):
two thousands when Josh Freese left the band. And then
we go even further where in recent years when Danny
Elfman has played a couple of live shows, Ilan Rubin
replaced Josh fries as the drummer of So these two
I'm getting an image a bit like you know that
film The Duellists, where it's like these two people whenever
they lock Eyes. It's like, ah, it's you again. They
(22:55):
have tag teamed each other out and replaced each other
again and again in so many bands they must have
the weirdest like relationship.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Just need Illan to join Wheeze at some point. Now,
I don't we like.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That's the only one that they haven't you know, haven't
like done together at this one yet.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
But yeah, no, it's it's a it's a weird.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
And again I don't know if it's just they are,
you know, the super drummers who will kind of just
float around. But and then it feels like he's been
in like I saying Nine's house for a good while.
That's that sort of surprised me. It felt like he
was almost like settled in as their drummer.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Now. Yeah, and obviously Nine is Nails have been touring,
you know, consistently for a couple months now, and I
wonder how just immediately that's what will be. But yeah,
the drummer transfer windows and transfer news continues in amusing fashion.
If you are a little goblin preton and you'd like
me like going to places like Fortress Festival, which is
the great black metal festival that occurs in Scarborough, every
(23:49):
year they have announced a big load of new bands
for next year. The only existing announcement for next year's
Fortress Festival was The Old Man's Child featuring Golder formerly
of Demi Borgear his kind of band. We're gonna be
one of the two headliners. But they have followed it
up now with a whole load of bands and there
is some really fucking good and exciting stuff where I
(24:12):
look at this and I'm already so ready to do
Fortress again and see this stuff. So along with Old
Man's Child headlining the other one, this really took me
off guard because I think the headliners that Fortress get
that no one else will have ever heard of. Right,
This band have about like five thousand Spotlight Spotify monthly listeners.
But it's also like a really good pick to close
(24:35):
the festival is a band called Gallo Braid, which is
Jake from Visigoth Okay, his old black metal band from
about twenty ten. They have released one album and never
ever played live, and this is their first ever live show,
like over fifteen years after that one record was released,
Like yeah, we're gonna come and play it, and they've
(24:58):
said like yeah, it's gonna be Gallo Braid playing that
you know record and more, they don't have any other material,
and so my mind goes to Jake Rogers and Visigoth's
other early twins black metal band Kaladan Brood, which is
one of my favorite fucking things ever. And I'm like,
if they have like thirty minutes at the end of
their slot and they drop in a Kaladan Brood song,
then I will just absolutely explode. The chances that happened.
(25:21):
I don't know if they are high or not, but
like either way, Gallabray's really good as well, exciting again
like novelty, How the fuck have this kind of come
out of nowhere to like headline a festival elsewhere a
man who are probably bigger than Galid Braid, But there
you go, DoD Hinsguard, You're going to be playing Fortress
next year and they are going to be doing a
set playing their black Medium Current, their latest record, which
(25:45):
has been you know, pretty CANNONI you did the last
couple of years as basically like a black metal or
like a you know, an avant garde extreme metal, you know,
master Stroke, Like everyone agrees that that record is basically
a modern classic. So them coming back and playing that
is I'm shrugging, but I'm just saying, you know, I'm
giving you the report from my side of events, right,
you know, my world. When I saw Darheim's Guard last
(26:07):
year or whatever it was, they only played six or
six international and before. So it's quite cool to now
get an order to actually see the new stuff. And elsewhere.
There are the likes of mis Theming are going to
be coming back here, a brilliant Darken Nocturne Slaughter Cult,
who are a really good band who have one of
the best names in the world. And there is going
to be an increase of Dungeon Synth presence.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
The one you're really excited for, isn't it. This is
the thing on the land up I go. I bet
Perry is like so happy about this.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, well, I mean I've seen Mortis before when he
supported Mayhem a few years ago. But they've announced that
the theater stage where this year they had a lot of
like folkey and acoustic bands and stuff, this year they're
going to be filling it with a load of Dungeon Synth.
And so there are like other acts who have been
announced as well. But Mortis, as you know, he like
he is the king of Dungeon since like it's his
(26:53):
genre basically the biggest possible thing in that world that
you could get to the point that that theater stage,
I'm telling you it's not that big. It is going
to be rammed like I am. I'm hoping I can
see Mortis, but I might not be able to. Like
it's gonna be a real get into that room to
see get in for the Dungeons, simple exactly. So a
(27:16):
bunch of really like Fortress after that, Abigail Williams actually
announced as well, who are a longtime favorite band of mine,
even though I've never seen them live. So there's a
lot now that's making Fortress next year look very very
tasty indeed, even with maybe lacking like a really big name,
you know, like it's just underground cool stuff. Over in America.
(27:36):
John Bush has announced three shows later this year various
cities around the US where he is going to be
playing material from his his years in Anthrax. So that
is the sound of White Noise, Stump four four two,
Volume eight, The Threat is Real and We've come for you.
All albums from you know, the mid nineties and early
two thousands. Two of those records Sound of White Noise
(27:59):
and We've Come for you All at least are really good,
well loved albums, so you know, if you can get
out to one of those shows, it's quite cool to
actually see him, you know, kind of giving that material.
It's it's airing because Anthrax obviously have not really done
that stuff in a long time. And Warning have announced
that they have signed to Relapse Records for their first
new album in twenty years. It will be coming out
(28:21):
later this year. The kind of you know, the initial
learning that there is new Warning has already happened because
when they were announced for Damnation Festival quite a while ago.
Now they were like, we're playing you know, the Watching
from a Distance album, which is they're one that they
will all we do, but there will also be new material,
and everyone went, oh, my fucking god, what do you
mean there's new Warning. So we reready knew that was coming,
but you know, further news on it's you know, manifesting here.
(28:44):
It's going to be coming through Relapse later in the year.
I imagine ahead of Damnation. We will talk about some
Warning on this show and when that record, you know,
the new one arrives, that will be like the do
Metal event of the of the decade, So awesome exciting
stuff there over on Petreon this week, As I said before,
(29:06):
in just a moment, me and Sam are going to
be returning to the T and M does Horror well
to speak about what has been a really big talking
point over the past month or a bit, which is
the twenty eight Days Later franchise. Of course, the new
movie twenty eight years Later, finally released after as we're
(29:27):
gonna describe on this show like many many years of
speculation as to whether there would ever be a third,
you know, twenty eight movie, and it has proven a
very very interesting, rich one to talk about. So along
with that, we are going to be doing as we
often do, we put these things together. We're also going
to be talking about the game changing movie from the
(29:50):
early twenty twenty eight days Later, and we are going
to be talking about it's maybe slightly underdiscussed sequel, but
I think there's some really interesting start to dig in
there as well, twenty eight weeks later, further into the
two thousands, These this series and these movies are some
of my favorites and some of the most integral to me.
(30:10):
I am treating this like a big one in the
way that we have treated the likes of Nosferatu or
are you know our big kind of director horror episodes
that we've done, Sam, I know that you like these movies,
but I'm maybe not quite as I know, fanatical about
them as I am so like you know, I'm tentatively
ahead of our recording session we're about to do in
a minute. I'm like, Okay, how far are we going
(30:32):
to go with this? But they are, you know, such seminal, integral,
iconic pieces of horror of the twenty first century. If
you think about horror series that emerged in the twenty
first century, they are right right up there, and so
it's going to be quite exciting and interesting to get
into that. So that is over on the as I said,
the higher tier for everyone wh wants to give a
(30:53):
little bit extra and we hopefully reward you a little
bit with these like big long Oh my god, they
take so much work actually to do the notes on
these shows horror episodes that we do. We are also
our you know, our host kind of communications have been
like absolutely a buzz for the past kind of a
couple of weeks because we are working on a special
(31:15):
that we are gonna do at some point on the
other side of Bloodstot Festival. When we come back from
that and we've done our coverage of that, We're then
gonna knuckle down and do this thing. And I will
not say what it is right now, but it is
the most like and the unknown quantity bit of fun.
This is gonna be a wild ride of a few
hours special that we have put together in quite some time.
(31:38):
So if you like that side of the you know,
the spectrum of what TNM does and the tones we
take on, I suppose then some hot takes.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
There's gonna be some hot takes in that special.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I reckon it's I mean, there's gonna be hot takes
that people don't even believe. It's just gonna be nuts.
So if that's where and your appetite, then that is
gonna be coming, as I said, just in a couple
of weeks time, on the other side of Bloodstot Festival.
So patroon dot com, slash That's Not Metal is where
you go for all of that. It is what keeps
this podcast alive. So thank you everybody who does that.
(32:08):
Let's finish up this hyperclasts with the releases for last week,
I suppose we had a few when we dine the
Reviews episode, and then we've also got the first releases
to come out of August this year. So last week
there was Alice Cooper's The Revenge of Alice Cooper. If
you remember, on the New Show, there was the mad
announcement that the original Alice Cooper band, not Alice Cooper
the solo artist, but the original most Dangerous band of
(32:29):
the World, you know, banned from the early seventies, were
going to be coming together for their first album in
something like fifty years, and how crazy that was. That
record was released last week, and obviously you can't really
expect it to be exactly the same or I don't know,
exactly as cutting edge as it may have been in
nineteen seventy two. But if you are a hardcore Alix
Cooper fan, there's inherent interest in that. So that record
(32:52):
was out for you to hear. Then there was Post
Animal with a record I in which I saw this
record on the kind of release you know, like schedule
and stuff like that, I was like, Okay, what's this.
I think it's a kind of sort of I don't know,
a folky rock, maybe a bit of post rock or something,
and then without knowing it at all, it was like, oh,
it's Joe Keery from Stranger Things, this band, but I've
heard some good things about that record, so that's post animal.
(33:15):
Then a couple of just really bastard heavy albums. There
is a record from a band called Scalp, which both
of these are you know, maybe on the sort of
periphery between like hardcore and death metal. This one maybe
leans more hardcore. A band called Scalp were a recordord
not Worthy of Human Compassion, which just sounds hard, doesn't it.
And then on the more like utterly brutish, chaotic death
(33:36):
metal end of it, the band Contusion released Insatiable Lust
for Death. And then there was an EP last week
from Nuovo Testamento called Trouble, who are the Italian slash
American eighties and on this EP now a bit of
nineties pop as well, that I have described as a
band I love. I've seen them live a couple of times.
(33:57):
I think they're great, and I would have, you know,
I would have kept them outside of necessarily the T
and M bubble, but they are so ingrained in hardcore.
They plain sound and fury a couple of weeks ago,
and I'm pretty sure they're going out on tour supporting
Scowl and soun Army in America soon, which is incredible.
So I guess they're just in.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
As you get.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I could totally see him playing like Stow. That makes
antal sense to me. Obviously they did the remix, but
it's the fouge of them that sound and furial people
like dancing across the stage before they stay so I
have like full on hip shaking it and vibing out
to it. I'm like, I'm glad they are now in
like our sort of world so that we get to
talk about it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, so like.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Literally this is a synth pop record. It's a synth
pop band. Yeah, great at that thing. But I guess
they're also a hardcore band now because they play sound
and fury, so they're in then today. As I said
first of August, releases are fit for a king, very
long running commercial metalcore band. Now release a record Lonely
God the Armed. In terms of much weirder hardcore and
(34:54):
metal corp, I suppose are releasing a record call the
Future is here and everything needs to be destroyed. I
find it hard to keep up with the Arm because
they're just there are hard bands to pin down at
the best of times, and they're also quite prolific. But
New Armed is out. Then there is a band called
fox Lake, which I believe are a kind of sort
of hardcore mixed with hip hop. You know, you can
expect a lot of wrapping, electronics and stuff involved with this,
(35:15):
releasing a record called New World Heat. A couple of
death metal records, there's one in the UK from a
band just called Hammer and their record is called Trapped
and I love. On this record, there's a song called
just something like trapped in the House with a Maniac.
It just really does what it says on the tin.
And then there is an called Hedonist with a record
(35:36):
called Scapuli Mancy, which is like Southern lord death metal
of the maybe more variety we would have seen more
often ten plus years ago. You know, a lot of
bolt Throw, but a lot of HM two E vibes
as well, if that is your your flavor of death metal.
Then there is the I guess progressive rock band Ko
Dot former members of Maudland of the Well, that kind
(35:57):
of thing, releasing a record called Every Rock, Every Half
Truth Under Reason and then your EP of the bunch
today comes from car Bomb, the returning Laser Shooting MANIAX.
The Carbomb EP called Tiled Whisper Dream. So have you
filled with those cheers? Everybody? Let us know what your
favorites are. As said, we are gonna be hopping over
(36:19):
doing ATM does Horror, which should be you know, if
it's not out by the time you are hearing it
right now, it should be uploaded at some point over
the course of the day. On the weekend on T
and M. What on T horror doing the twenty days
later movies Next week is Bloodstock, So I'll see if
we manage to get an episode out before that. If not,
then we will return with coverage of Bloodstock. We'll see
(36:40):
everybody there who's there? And yeah, cheers guys. We'll see
you next time. Bye bye,
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