The 420 Radio Show S17, Ep 15 w/ Guest Steve Bloom

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On Lifestyle Radio. Now we cansay Hi, Hi, Hi, Hi,
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we doing a show? What's goingon? I know? So Welcome to
the fourth runing radio show. Iam Al. I'm here with Marcel,
Mary, Jane and Darcy and ourguest today is mister Steve Bloom. Always
a pleasure to see you and talkto you, Steve. How you doing
down there below the border? Greatto be back. I always enjoy my

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visits up north and catch up witheverybody here. It's just a really fun
show. I love to be back. Are you doing good down there?
The weather's good, keeping keeping youcool. Weather's good, you know.
I know we're going to talk aboutevents and things like that for twenty tonight,
But I'm working on the Cannabis Paradein New York that's on May fourth.

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I'm one of the organizers at thatevent. Sort of fell in my
lap the last few years and runit now with a team of people.
We're also doing it with in concertwith the City of New York, which
is a big change in the lasttwo years. Yeah, they signed on
with us to be like a coproducer of the event. That kind of
helps get permits that we had hardtime getting and things they could do that

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we couldn't really do. You know, Mary James on the the panel to
help with the GMM here is thatlike the GMM there, that's that's what
it is. It's the first Saturdayof May. I'm guessing, Steve,
Yes, it's May fourth, youknow, Yeah, and uh, it's
you know obviously you know where theyou know, the you know where the

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Global Cannabis March began, you know, in New York as a parade,
you know, in the streets ofNew York and still happens, and the
city is really excited about beefing upthe parade aspect of it. We're having
floats, so we haven't had tobe involved at all. They don't want
anything to do with it. Seethat's that's my dream. I wish Toronto
would get to that point because wehave to know, well, that's the

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way it was up until legalization.You know, it was always sort of
you know, a fight, youknow, but they were kind of used
to us, So things do getrubber stamped a bit too when they just
get used to you ask making thesame request over and over again, so
they just do it again, butthey do it with some resistance, uh,
and then they want the event toend, like immediately or the police

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will storm the stage kind of stuff. More a lot of still respect for
us. But boy, the respectfactor changed a lot once legalization kicked in
a couple of years ago. Butthat was also during the COVID period,
so our events, you know,went down to minuscule size barely. When
we missed twenty twenty, like everybodytwenty twenty one, we came back with
like a small stage, you know. But it was a great year because

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that was a year, you know, we legalized and it was only a
month later and everybody wanted to geton the mic that day and say something.
Uh. And then the next yearwe had a rain out. It
was still in the COVID period.We were out there, but it rained
all day. And then we madepeople last year. We made a big
comeback last year, and we werehaving some issues with the Parks Department getting
permits to what we wanted pre COVID. They kind of wanted us to stay

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small, and we said, no, we want to go back to a
real stage, and they kind ofwere balking and the so the city agency
that took our side went and dealtwith the Parks Department and cleared the way
where we couldn't. It really didbenefit us to you know, partner with
them, so now they kind ofhandled the permitting h and we produced basically

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the event though, you know,together, So I mean, I think
it is unique. And by theway, you know, jumping maybe a
little bit ahead in whatever conversation we'regoing to have tonight, you know,
for twenty which really started out inCalifornia, Northern California, San Francisco,
the Grateful Dead scene, you know, in like the early seventies. Uh,

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They've been having an event there foryears in Golden Gate Park called Golden
called fortunately Hippie Hill, which takesplace on this little zone called Hippie Hill,
which has also been renamed for RoberinWilliams. And it's been canceled this
year. It's literally been canceled.They had it scheduled and they canceled it.

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These the organizers claimed lack of sponsorshipsupport, which could go to the
discussion MJA might want to bring up, but also the city backing off after
supporting last year. It was kindof too big and too much money for
them to go in there and cleanup or something. I don't know.
Yeah, we've had discussions in ourplanning committee meetings because this is my first

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year jumping on board because like alsaid, we took it. We also
took a huge hit due to COVIDlast year. I don't think a lot
of people even knew that we weredoing it again, so we had a
very low turnout. So we're stilllike trying to let people know, like,
hey, we're doing it again.We need to come out. But

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these apparently all of the garbage repectaclesfrom the part as well. Yeah,
they'd trees to the park as well, so it's not able, you're not
able to set up a stage andyeah, so there there are some there's
pushback from the city. But Imean, like these are things that we
just we work around. We're gonnabring garbage bags and we you know,

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we get volunteers to do a cleanup crew, and like these are all
things we have to have foresight tosee. But then there's here in Ontario,
especially like Canada is just terrible.Like there's I've just seen a report
there's like over two hundred cannabis licensesor companies that have gone under due to
unpaid excise taxes. And they can'tthey can't you know, that's not the

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only reason they went under, No, no, But what the problem is
is the excise taxes are too highfor most of them stay in business.
I mean, they've gone under forother reasons. Yeah, but a lot
of them weren't paying the taxes anyway, so they can't say that the taxes

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put them under, so they didn'tpay any tax yeah at all. I
I don't understand, like because likeit's hard to get money from Like what's
that saying you can't squeeze water froma stone or whatever it is, Like,
it's just not going to Yeah,it's just not going to happen.
So, like where is this moneyfrom and what are the rules on how

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they can advertise like it's money forthe ax ice comes from you, the
consumer that's purchasing it. Yeah,when we buy it, it goes to
the store. They should No,well, technically it goes to the producer.

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The producer makes the product. Yeah, but I don't hand it to
the producer, it to the cashier. The cashier has to then like filter
it up. Right, But right? No, No, let me explain
how this works with the excise tax. So, as a licensed producer,
you're doing up bags of one ouncebags. As soon as you put that

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excise stamp on that bag to sealit, yep, your responsible pay that
excise tax. Yeah, but youdon't get money for that product until you
sell it to the store, liketo the OCS. Once you receive that
money, then you pay your thegovernment money. As soon as that sticker

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goes on, you are responsible topay that excise tax. How did we
need to sell that products? Right? How did we go from four to
twenty two? How did we gofrom events ssship? How do you get
the money from these companies if theycan't even afford to pay their XI attack.
Well, the idea that California andSana northern California can't support a twenty

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event, I thought, you know, I know California has taken a bit
of a hit, but there aresome popular and successful companies out there,
I'm sure, and musicians. I'mjust saying just in general that they you
know, I know what sponsorship's costing. It's not that enormous, you know,
if you're making a lot of bankon cannabis. A lot of companies
are out there, even if notas many or you know, there's some

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issues. But I don't know,it seems there's a lot of successful companies
on California. Everyone's not, youknow, trying to blues. No,
not not everybody is, but someof them are a lot of them are.
But I'm just but they don't wantto spend the ones that are doing
well. They can't support you know, cookies or whatever. They can't support
this event with the you know,the nice you know, sponsorship fee.

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I'm just saying I'm surprised that that'sthe case. But either way. You
know. That's where we got onthat conversation, moving around on this in
terms of like sponsors, do youfeel it's because they're looking at it are
from corporate stands rather than community.They don't see it as a viable event
to follow. It depends on whichtype of companies are going for too,

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you know. For us in NewYork, we have to sort of walk
a little carefully around the licensees becauseof the advertising regulations. And you're not
allowed to advertise here at all.Yes, check check this, check this
out after you're following the news inNew York. But a court overturned the
advertising regulations that legally sued over becausethey weren't allowing even you know, companies

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to advertise and leefly, yeah no, they suit over that. But it
goes way beyond that. It's justall kinds of ways of advertising. It's
not allowed that impacts our event,in terms of how your name can be
used, where it can be used, how high the sign can be allow

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they allow sampling. They've just startedsampling, not LP really no no yet.
New York is obsessed with kids andstuff and I mean I let right
through that and there's like no bubblelettering on things. There's so many things
that they don't want. No cupcakes. Yeah, but if you go and

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I actually put this on one ofour podcasts. So it's almost time for
the l CBO, which is ourLiquor commission Board of Ontario, to send
out their yearly catalog that I don'task for, mind you. It just
gets delivered to my house every year. No, like it's there with that
stipping to beat. And if youlook through it, there's vodka bottles,

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there's fruits, there's like Al wassaying, one of the bottles has a
nice cupcake on it, like we'reat it. You can go to a
grocery store. You can go toa grocery store and buy your groceries and
a lady will walk up to youand ask you if you'd like a wine
sample because they have the wine storesand the grocery stores. You can go

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and get beer samples because they sellbeer in the grocery stores. Me,
you can't go. I would expectall that to eventually happen with cannabis.
We are in new industries, soyou know, I mean, I would
think, you know, eventually thingswill so called normalize and those things will
happen, don't you think. Ithink so. I hope so. Like

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I said, they're they're allowing samplingat legal shows, meaning yeah, the
government in Ontario they're allowing Well letme let me just specify, because in
Ontario they are allowing people who areactively working in a cannabis space as a

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retail bud tender who have their cansell license to go to these events and
sample. If you have your canceland you're not actively employed at a cannabis
store, you're not supposed to begetting samples. That's the rules based on
the Ontario Cannabis Store or whatever theywhoever it was that said that's the sampling

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rules. Now, every province isdifferent. Alberta, I think they've just
allowed nineteen plus here there, Butthis is going to change. I think
eventually we're going to see sampling.They were one of the things I found
interesting at can Expo is they wereallowing they had a big consumption area and

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they were allowing sampling of dabs basicallyyeah, and I hadn't seen that and
a legal event yet. Well,that's still the same period. You still
have to have your can sell inorder to sample. Yes, yeah,
but I mean, I will say, like I'm always comparing cannabis and alcohol,

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and I'm like, you know,it should be equal. Let's just
make them equal, the ages,the access, all of that. But
even the LCBO, the people thatcontrol liquor in Ontario, also control cannabis
in Ontario and they're so here's theone benefit that I found that cannabis consumers

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have over alcohol consumers. So wecan consume cannabis anywhere that you can consume
a cigarette, right, So,like you can smoke a joint where someone
can smoke a cigarette. But itgoes further if you think about edibles and
like beverages. So because you cansmoke a joint out in public, you

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can also have a cannabis beverage outin public. It's not like an alcoholics
alcohol. You can now have alcoholin some parks in some parts, and
I think they tested that in Toronto. But I'm like, I could drink
a cannabis beverage walking down the streetsanywhere. I can go to the mall
and walk around the mall and havea cannabis drink. Yeah, I'm like,

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that's where we have a leg up. Yeah. Yeah, But one
of them beverages from the legal storeain't gonna do much for somebody who is
a regular cannabis. I say toyou yourself, No, I mean I've

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not tried yet. This stuff hereis so good. This is how much
is it? How much is ten? But the natification. I've had one
legal beverage which was five milligrams,and it was a can of coke cola

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okay, and and it tasted justlike cola. But it did absolutely nothing
for me as far as effects.Well, the sugar got me. Verry
one is a hash rosin cola theshe yes, and it's made with cherry
juice from the Okanagan Valley. Igot one even better. It's called the

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tim Warton's Red Eye ice Cap withforty milligrams and chocolate ice cream put into
it. You just said ice cap, which is super caffeine, and then
you said red eye, which isred bull. No, it's a shot
of espresso. Oh do you doyou do any Steve? And and then

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then then a tub of ice cream. So keep you is that they don't
really impact me too much. AndI'm sure I can be proved wrong in
the right setting. Now visit meexactly, like, send me some cookies,
the mails of those full of uhrso little knocking you ask only you
the little piece. I mean itwas good, but you know I was

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okay, I don't know. Imean, but I just did a little
thing because I I had like someedibles and some caramels, and I did
a post on such standard page,you know, edibles versus caramels. I
was trying to say that people reallycare, do you guys care? I
think it's a preference. I mean, I I love pretzels, but I
don't like chocolate covered pretzels. Meneither. But you know, I kind

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of like edibles, you know someyou know, yeah, caramels they're awesome,
so you know it's like, uh, you know, so they really
kind of work for me, evenjust for the taste alone, whereas you
know a lot of the gummies arekind of often have weird flavors or just
way too much sugar. I don'tknow that too so much sugar in all
the Yeah, like Marcella, Marcellaproponent your own, and I will just

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say, make edibles the way marcelmakes. I mean, I would just
say that I like, I liketo add it maybe to what I'm consuming
and it's part of the the mixtureof cannabis in my body at all times,
but mostly it comes from smoking flourbong hitting. If I'm out in

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the bowd joints, I do somedabbing, but I'm very keen on just
sitting by my window smoking a bongand blowing out the windows. I don't
bother anybody else living in an apartmentbuilding. But you know, yeah,
our roles in New York, bythe way, are very liberal as far
as public smoking. The only statein the country is law that allowed public
smoking. They allow smoking in onpatios and restaurant patios, things like that.

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Skill they pa just like you said, married, any place where you
can smoke tobacco, you can smokewe you know, it's just the rules
apply, except different. No indoorsmoking. You know, of course,
the smoke free is a killer.That's what kills it for us, a

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killer. A lot of smoke easy. There's a lot of smokes, I'm
you have plenty up there. There'splaces where people go, and there's places
to smoke. And you know,there's a lot of little clever spots around
New York. So there's only someplace to go if you want to hang
out. It's not orfulized. Thelounges. Well, I mean, yeah,
New York, there are basically there. There are in Toronto, in

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Toronto. In Toronto there may bea few of the consumption lounges still around,
but less than we have, almostlike the cannabis clubs in Spain,
you know, totally underground. You'vegot to be in the know. But
they're there. And they have alittle room there where they sell and you
hang and whatever. Its smoke loungeeI know. It's also known as the

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legacy market. I know, iftwo of them in Toronto, one of
them the entrance is in a backalley, and the secondary one they change
themselves to a research facility because thatwas the only way that they could get
around the consumption. Well, thereyou have it. But yeah, and
and in Spain, I call ita magical mystery tour. Trying to find

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the places. I got to knowsomebody to get get around. I was
torn around with some Spanish guys andthey knew where to go. But I'm
telling you, I mean places wego to. It's closed. I used
to be here, not here anymore. And they were now in Toronto.
Restaurants and it was funny. I'mjust to me, I'm just they're just
dragging me along. I don't care. Fine, And one sooner or later
we found one that I was open. That's always fun going to another country

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and trying to find weed, especiallythere doing it their way, you know,
the underground social media, you know. For years, and I laughed
about this for years. I hada network that if I went to any
country, I could get hooked up. And I had a friend message me
one time and he said, Iwant to poker. Want a seat at

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the poker tournament in Monte Carlo.He said, can you get me hooked
up? And within an hour Ihad somebody that was going to meet him
at the airport and hand them weedat the airport. So it's not heard.
It's actually gotten a lot easier withthe Internet. But I've never had

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an issue. I mean, anycountry I've ever gone to, within a
few minutes, I can usually findwhat I'm looking for. I have a
question for you, Scheme, wherewas the When was the first time you
smoked the dobie? That's a goodquestion because my first time I smoked was
hashed and didn't get me high.Now, I was a kid of fifteen

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or fourteen or fifteen, I'd say, friend of mine gave me the hash
or sold me for five bucks.Is how do I smoke this? He
said? You know, does yourdad have a pipe that he did?
You know, I'd got tobacco pipethat he used to smoke A dug went
out of a draw and then whatdo I do? Poke holes in the
bowl the usual stuff, went onthe roof of the building and smoked.

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But I just never smoked tobacco.I didn't know how to whale at all,
and it just didn't work for me. It was pulling down hash was
tough. So I tried it asecond time, you know, so I
don't know, maybe I'm I can'tget stillm third time was a charm because
a friend came by after school oneday with the joint and that did the
job that was able to penetrate mylungs and made it through uh to the

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other side. Uh, and andthey have it. I was kind of
sold. So basically we had fun, giggled ate a lot, you know,
and the other thing happened that day, which was really interesting because I
kind of like, oh, thisis what it's about. I mean,
I don't think I figured out quitethen. But one of my friends rings
the bell and he comes in andand he comes into the room and me

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and my buddy are sort of havinga giggle fit, and the smoke is
all over the place, and he'slike, oh my god, what he
is doing. You guys are gonnaget in so much trouble and this and
that he said to me. Yethe said he's something he was going to
court martial media with a funny joke. I was like, I'm court martialed
or something. I mean, thefunniest thing. But here you go the
first time and then it's fun,and then suddenly it comes a bumber because

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somebody doesn't like what you're doing.And then that kind of raining on your
parade or you know. And sothat's what happened from the very beginning.
This is where it was that peopleare always going to have like mixed opinions
on this subject. Even from thatday. You know, I didn't stop
me from moving ahead and smoking,but you know, I don't think I
thought about it until later, It'slike, wow, that happened. Yeah.

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The first first time I smoked thejoint was in a hash bar in
ampsoncare in the Red Lake District withmy mom and her boyfriend and his sister.
And then I didn't have another oneuntil I was in my you know,
nineteen maybe even twenty. It justdidn't happen. But then I you
know, now it's every day.I mean then you know it likes that's

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nineteen seventy or so, and soyou know, music was, yeah,
I was around the same age.Music was getting big and you know,
starting to go to concerts as agreat place to light up. But to
be honest, even places like theFillmore East, where I did go several
times, you had to hide it. I mean Bill grand Boy, those
people they come by, his guyswere have flashlights and you just basically had
to smoke in the bathroom. It'slike you there was like smoke in the

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bathroom, don't smoke at it inthe crowd. You know the Laser show
at the planetarium at the McLaughlin Planetariumwhere you could go see Laser Floyd or
laser classic Rock, things like that, and they didn't need smoke machines in
there. I mean, this wasthe seventies and eighties. They did need
smoke machines. I'm telling you someof those nights, especially moved over to
the next place after the film orclosed the Academy of Music. I mean,

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I remember a night it was likeit was like Sadboy Brown and long
John Baldry and and I went intothat bathroom. I came out so wrecked.
I did not even smoke your phonesmoky. It was so smoky in
there. So, yeah, wewould smoke at shows all the time,
and that was it. You know, maybe not smoke at the house.

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So I lived at home, youknow, so smoking out, but even
smoking in the streets you only getin trouble. Yeah, the counct it
seemed kind of semi safe. Yeah. I went and saw uh Bachmann Cummings
at the bud what is it calledBudweiser stage in Toronto just before, just

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before I moved. I took tookthe Young Fella with me and David loved
it. But there was no smellof weed at all. I went and
saw the who no weed smell atall. Same with James Taylor, same
with countless other It's it's just notright. I can't do it. That

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wasn't the case with me. Andby the way, I mean the summer
of seventies and all that year.You know, when I'm now in the
seventies and eighties, we were downat the Forum at Ontario Place, watched
watching Peter Peter tosh Well. Herolls out down his unicycle smoking a fucking
shole damn show, you know,and nobody said on the on the grass

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having a wine and cheese party.That wouldn't be common for them to do
it on stage as much as peoplesmoking in the crowd. I mean,
I worked the whole summer in theNew York City at the called the Shaffer
Music Festival the summer of seventy.It was a great lineup and everybody was
telling the whole time. Nobody toldyou couldn't smoke there. There was no
guard telling you stop smoking, andthere were all big crowd outside that smoked.

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It was. It was just great. The people that you see walking
out anywhere with a doobie is SnoopDogg. When he comes out on stage,
it was like the Grateful Dead show. You know, the lights go
down and everybody lights up. That'show it used to be. Still all
still, is is it? Yeah? They can't stock anymore in these places.

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They're not coming in this tell youyou can't you can't you try and
do something like that at the airat the Scotia Bank Center, Steve,
and you're going to get in,Okay, So certain places are going to
be stickulate gardens. When Billy joelisplaying still yeah, allow it. They
don't come in and they're not goingto come down to the road and stop
you from smoking. I mean,unfortunately, it's just too much work.

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Now. I think that it's reallyhands off. After a lot of years
of hassling us, you know,they're just kind of like, Okay,
that's over. Well here they're here. They're still hassling us. So,
Mary Jane, you have a coupleof questions you wanted to ask Steve.
How about we do that? Okay? So I wanted to first go through
the history that I know of becauseI've done enough research on four twenty and

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from what I know, because I'vedone this story a couple of times because
it's evolved. First, I heardthat there was five kids that went to
San Rafael High School. They usedto meet after school and extracurriculars around four
to twenty in front of a statuebecause they heard about a crop and they

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were trying to find said crop.Later, I heard that that's not true,
but apparently these guys used to meet. This part is true. The
Waldos, there were five kids SanRafael High School met up after school coined
the term for twenty to have todo with cannabis because that's about the time
every day that they were smoking adoobi. Now fast forward, one of

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those guys ends up working with theGrateful Dead, so they end up using
the term for twenty and then itbecomes more known with the we'll call them
deadheads. Those are the Grateful Deadfans and crew that follow them. So
one of them decided that they weregoing to put together a flyer talking about

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how four to twenty was code forsome police code for like possession, and
that four twenty has always been knownwith cannabis, and come celebrate for twenty
by smoking cannabis on four twenty atfour twenty on April twentieth, And that
was nineteen wait, nineteen ninety,and that fell into the hands of mister

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Steve Bloom, who was actually workingat High Time Canada, who used his
influence to then start printing it forthe next couple of years and then creating
this massive movement that we now knowand call for twenty and we all celebrate
every year and also every day atYeah, you guessed it for twenty.

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But the whole question that I hadposed to the other people, all the
people, all the cannabis people,was who is the most responsible? Is
it the waldos that created and gottogether at four twenty? Would it be
as big as it was if itwasn't like for the Great Dead and the
dead Heads? Or is it actuallySteve, mister Steve Bloom who had the

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ability to put it into the magazinewhich we all had. I mean,
like I used to collect them whenI was a teenager, like high time?
Is this the steak? That wasmy question I post everybody else,
But my question to Steve is different. My question to Steve is did you
ever go to Ballina's Ridge in MarinCounty? Because I want to know what

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that was, Like, I wantto know what the first couple of four
twenties were in that original you know, nineteen ninety one, ninety two,
right from the horse's mouth so tospeak. Yes, yes, okay,
Okay, So that's that's a lotto untangled. Yeah, how much of
that is true? It is?I mean I never maybe the order little

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off. I never went Bilina's Ridgewas something that was mentioned in the four
to twenty flier that was given thatI got at the Grateful Dead show in
nineteen ninety at December twenty eighth orso. I was there for the last
for the end of the year runof shows. I was working for High
Times then and I got the flyer. That's a green flyer to bet.

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I can't show it off to youhere, it's on my website, but
and it's handwritten, and it doestell that story of the four to twenty
arrest being the code for a marijuanaarrest in progress and therefore we should smoke
at four twenty seemed to be thelogic of the of the missive there like
this turn it around. Nothing todo with the wal does on that flyer.

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But what I found most interesting,besides the code and their idea,
that that's where it came from,that they, like you said, the
flyer talked about the party or thebiggest day of all four twenty four to
twenty with everybody four twenty together inone place, go to the Ballina's Ridge
north of San Francisco. No messedup Lighters was one of the funny lines

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on there, you know, mentionednormal and stuff scrolled names and stuff on
the flyer, some of his typeand some of his handwritten. And so
the Waldos came sort of later andbefore, I mean the flyer was news
to us. I had only beenat High Times for a year or more

(32:22):
so, but nobody else knew aboutfour twenty. When I came back with
the flyers, like everybody shrugged,like what so nobody knew So so there
was no history on it that weknew. And if any High Times didn't
know, then I guess it didn'thappen, But we didn't deny the We
didn't know the Waldos existed. Idid read that a couple of years.

(32:43):
Yeah, you printed it. Andthen some one of them came forward and
said, hey, by the way, right he saw that a company was
associated with the cannabis four twenty tourswas using a name for twenty and he
contacted My guess is in four twentytours I think it was Steve Waldo and
said, you know, hey,you know it's not really accurate this four
twenty story that's going around about thecode, and because there's no such code,

(33:07):
and the California codes are like sixnumbers, and you know, honestly,
we didn't really research it, sookay, but we were not holding
by this didn't really matter too muchto us where it came from because that
code. Obviously, that flyer wasa mystery. We didn't know who put
it out. So we're not assigningany any you know, anybody that anybody

(33:28):
had been given credit for that flyerbecause it was mysterious. We didn't know.
So the wall Doze now they're steppingforward in saying, hey, but
we were the ones who came upwith it. So then Steve Hay,
your editor and chy for heights Onback then went out there and interviewed the
guys and got looked at their evidence, and there's some stuff that was handwritten,
this and that and whatever was thereasons. He went on the tour

(33:50):
to the the where the pot wassupposedly growing and things like that, went
to the campus where they yeah,twenty, never quite explained why for twenty
versus four fifteen, but still fortwenty and and so, and basically he
decided to anoint them, you know, the Kings of four twenty. Whether
they really created it or not,I assume they did. But you know,

(34:10):
I heard other things. As along article written by four twenty news
or four twenty dot com a fewyears ago debunked the whole Waldough story.
And I had heard that too once. I at high Times when I was
there, other people wrote to mesaying, there were other people who did
this first, you know. SoI don't know. I don't like to
really assign the credit to them somuch. They already have it, because
that's the story that's going to betold in a few you know, in

(34:32):
a week, you know, Waldosand all those that. So I can't
stop that train. But I justlike to say that the Walss didn't create
the holiday. They may have startedthe four twenty concept, but they didn't.
It was not their idea to everybodyget together on one day and you
have a u celeration like we're goingtwenty every year. It was not their
ideas. So in my opinion,I'll just say, regardless, Okay,

(34:53):
the wal Dose, it's just agroup of guys. There's groups of people
all over the place that start sayingand it doesn't go any further than that
group, because it's just a groupof guys now saying the same thing about
the guy who wrote the flyer thatevent in on Billina's Ridge might only have
gotten so big, but putting itinto High Times magazine, the fact that

(35:19):
you actually printed it year after year, it literally solidified it as something within
all of the cannabis community. Wellthat's all literally no for twenty So I
would say, I mean it's true, you know, I mean that it
started with just printing the flyer verbatimin the news section and kind of leaking
it in there that way. Andthen we had a section in the back

(35:40):
of you remember, like the topone hundred, the top this or that
that was hand drawn, cartoony thing, a lot of four twenty references in
there, and we started to seeit pop up there a lot. We
started, you know, shirts andhats with four twenty record labels using the
term for twenty tours. So itstarted to kind of catch on. By
the mid you know, nineties tothe events started to happening. The first

(36:02):
one I ever went to that itwas a real kind of you know,
organized event outside of you know,just hanging out together people. It was
at Maritime Hall in San Francisco thatCannabis Action Network and Debbie Goldsberry organized,
and the all those guys were there. That's the day I did see their
evidence, which was some letters andstuff with you know, signing on saying

(36:24):
you know, fourth twenty dude orthings like that. You know, it
seemed cool to me, you know, so and good guys. But as
time went on, you know,as far as the events are concerned,
I did go to I consider twolegendary four twenties two of my favorite cannabis
events of all time, on thecampus of the University of Colorado at Boulder

(36:45):
in two thousand and I think eightand two thousand and nine, nine twenty
ten, pre legalizition the campus.It's not crazy about the kids, you
know, all of a sudden goingout to the Diegon smoking in the middle
of the day. But they,you know, they did it, and
they kind of put on the showfor us a couple of times when I
went there, because next thing,you know, is like four o'clock approach

(37:06):
to the big crowd, and byfour to twenty everybody was lighting up and
there was a huge cloud over thecampus, a great view of the mountains.
A cool scene. Kids either,you know, dispersed pretty soon,
went back to class, went intotown, had a good time. The
rest of the day. You know, it was just like a flash mob
that was sind of the beginning offour twenty as far as events were concerned,

(37:29):
you know. Besides they was organizedones that they started doing a little
bit in San Francisco, but thesestudent events were really the bomb they had.
They had them also in Santa Cruz, Wow, University of Cruz.
They had those sort of you know, on campus events that troubled the campus
and was sort of controversial the wayour events have been over the years,

(37:50):
right, Mjayson. So those thingsthey were doing at pre legalization and interestingly
post legalization they got canceled, youknow, pre legalization they got away with
it, but they got chastised.We got away with the post layers,
and you can't do that anymore.It's interesting to me thinking about everybody coming
in just for four twenty on fortwenty smoking and then dispersing, because like

(38:13):
we've made a whole day out ofit now, I think that's all I've
ever known for students. It makessense, you know, so a campus
stay there too long or that youcan maybe gonna get busted, you know,
I mean they'll send in the campuspolicemans. You know, that's usually
the conversation you're having as you're walkingdown the streets of Toronto. We're gonna
get busted this year, right,so therefore be careful. But I mean

(38:36):
it's really shifted. I think that, you know, I want to talk
about some four to twenty events.I mean it has shifted, I think
to New York in a lot ofways. Because I've been documenting four twenty
at my website for years. I'veconsider myself, you know, like the
king of four twenty when it comesto anything related, and so I try
to put out the best calendar ofevents. I have a good went out
right now for there, and uh, you know, just kind of keeping

(38:57):
an eye on everything, and youknow how how everything's kind of going,
you know, for this year,which is a big year with four twenty
coming on a weekend and really kindof starting almost as a four to twenty
week holiday now, so things havereally shifted away from California and Colorado and
moving into New York with a littlemore excitement around it. In New York
never had been four twenty events.Now we have a lot of good at

(39:17):
four twenty events. We have oneof those flash mobby events that I love
in Washington Square Park. It's moreof an organized day. Just show up
during the day. Everybody's going tobe there partying all day long. But
it's not like a stage at anything. It's just show up. I'm where
is your list? I was lookingfor it, Steve, all Right?
Why I didn't publish it? I'mgonna I would state it now. I
mean, I have on my listas a guide the four twenty Slipstone or

(39:40):
four twenty you know, you knowguy events guide that's up on the site.
It's easy to find. But Ido have like a I paired that
down from about seventy plus events toa top ten if you want to hear
it. Sure, Yeah, that'swhere I was going, right, So

(40:00):
I'm going to do it like Lettermanstyle with a top ten starting with ten.
All right, So tenth would bethe sweet Water for twenty festival that
takes place in Atlanta, Georgia.They've always had a really cool lineup,
and Sweetwater is a beer company whichhas the four to twenty beer as well,
which is kind of cool. Likea lot of companies, they had
ran into problems during COVID with events. They lost their event a couple of

(40:21):
years, so they're sort of comingback. But their story, similar to
what's happening in San Francisco, isthey had to scale down because ticket sales
weren't great, and they made ita free event recently, so people in
Atlanta go to the four to twentySweet War event. It's now a free
event. That's number ten. Numbernine is Unity Day in Washington, d

(40:45):
C. That's an event that's beingpromoted by the Last Prisoner Project and a
lot of other activist organizations that workreally hard to get cannabis prisoners out of
jail, focus on DC issues likereschedule de scheduling, you know, safe
banking and getting anything done in DC. They're having that and several other events

(41:07):
in that week. That's on theeighteenth. Number eight is an event here
in New York that's sponsored by BluePoint, another beer and bud kind of
collaboration, blue Point Shakedown at MainStreet at a Long Island. That's a
four to twenty event, and that'sfeaturing Shaggy. So most of these events

(41:29):
there have a really good headliner.That's how they end up on this list.
But they really have a good headliner. You'll see a few more good
headliners as I move on in thelist. Okay, so that's number seven
is is The Big Lebowski. TheBig Lebowski has a lot of screenings.
I see one in Saint Louis ata theater and even better is the Almo

(41:50):
Drift House cinemas, which are nationwidenow now started in Austin. It all
day on every one of their theirtheir cinemas across nation. I don't if
I have any in Canada are goingto be screening Big Lebaski on the twenty
first, So that's kind of aextent of that one. But for all
of the movies that they could pick, Lebaski is number one in terms of
Stone movies for four twenty apparently.Number six is the event I just said

(42:15):
about in Washington Square Park, whichI think is really cool in New York.
So it's a real, a freeevent just come to Washington Square of
Park. It's also the original homeof the Cannabis Parade. We got moved
around. We're no longer in WashingtonSquare Park, but so I think people
feel the historic connection and like tohave the event there. Number five is
Denver for the Mile High for twentyfest that's been going on for years.

(42:38):
You know, I said that there'sa little less happening in Denver now because
things are spreading more around the country. For four to twenty, you have
to go to Denver to play afour twenty event. Now you can play
it, say in New York.But they have a good event. They
have raf Afroman and Gucci Maine.It's a hip hop show. It's in
Civic Center. It's been going foryears, a free event. Number four
Cypress Hill and the Far Sight inthe US or Cypress has been kind of

(43:00):
number one on the list for meas cannabis friendly bands really stood up for
the cause over the years. Andthe head of Cypress Hill, be Real,
has his own stores in La nowDoctor Green Thromb. They're really,
you know, true believers, andthere's a great tour and they're out on
a tour like we legalized it,so they're kind of like pushing it,
like, hey, remember what wedid? You know? They did a

(43:22):
lot number three also in New Yorkon four to one. This is four
nineteen. The cypressol is also fournineteen. A lot of four nineteen shows.
Method Man and Redman. They touredit. They play together only just
generally for cannabis theme shows, andthey have a big one in New York
on that night, and they're goingto be playing also the next day at

(43:42):
the National Festival in d C,which is also coming up on this list.
Love meth Man and Redman talk aboutpeople been down with the cause for
years and plus now method Man hashis own brand now to Kyle, so
he's in his business side too.Number two is that National Cannabis Festival in
Washington, d C. Which I'venever been to, great things about,

(44:06):
kind of stuck in New York forfour twenty but it's a two day event.
Uh, and this year it's WuTang Clan Wu Tang Clan. I
mean, I'm jealous that we don'thave Wu Tank plan. They have Wu
Tang Plan. Plus they have awhole week of events happening in d C
leading up to that. Plus it'sa whole week of events in San Francisco
too, called San Francisco Weed Week. And the number one event that's not

(44:29):
specifically a week event, and thereare lots of bands that we love,
the Willie Nelson's and all these peopleperforming during the you know these four to
twenty week. Number one is Fishat the Sphere in Las Vegas. That
has to be the greatest place tospend four twenty this year, you know,
just looking up at that you know, that orb and the great you

(44:49):
know, hallucinatory you know video thatI'm sure they're going to have for four
hours, you know, and peopleripping out massively in that dome. So
I hope I saw Fish. Well, but the Happy Bicycle Day, you
know, four nineteen, four twenty, because Fish is playing eighteen nineteen and
twenty sphere, right, it's aFish thing and it's all sold out.

(45:13):
You and yeah, you'll be ableto, you know, you'll be able
to. Uh, you'll be ableto you know, uh, you know
watch it as well, you know. You know, I don't know if
you've ever been to Ontario place,but that was our version of the sphere.
We have the big screen. Itgoes all the way around, you
know. It's but that that.I've seen lots of YouTube stuff and some

(45:37):
live stuff of the sphere inside andlike I said, YouTube played I think
on the Grammys or something like thatthere, right, and the sound is
supposed to be phenomenally in there.Yeah, I've been. I haven't been,
but my brother was there and Ihave father ends up been there,

(45:57):
so I don't know, it justseems like that's kind of a fantastic place
to be on four twenty. Butthere's a lot of the things that you
know, also, just like someof our favorite musicians like Wiz Khalifa,
Willie Dave Matthews Band, Melissa Etheridge, Billy String, they they're playing in
this or No, the Black Crows. I'm just saying, Bill markatt Williams
are all out there because it's aweekend. They're all out there working that

(46:19):
weekend, you know, so there'slots of shows, you know, throughout
that period of time. It's reallyjust probably the most fantastic for twenty week
we've ever had building into the weekend. It's just great. It can't be
any better lineup than this. Thereain't nothing happening up here. I didn't.
I mean, I noted, youknow, I didn't put on this
list, but I noted, youknow, I should have for this program.

(46:42):
But you know, Vancouver for twentyobviously they have their program that's always
happens there, so that's a given. Uh it should have been. I
meant up here, there's lots goingon in Canada. Yeah, oh yeah,
Al lives pretty far north in Ontario. I know, Uh, Stephen
Stairs is doing something in Winnipeg.I know. I personally am going to

(47:05):
two parties on four twenty. Oneof them is Canna Crawl of course,
and the other one is the CannonKickett two year anniversary event. Cool,
you're not going to go to fourtwenty Toronto, So that's my plan.
My plan is to go to theCanna Crawl and Hamilton first and then go

(47:30):
down to Young and Dunda Square forfour twenty, Okay, because like I
know, that's not where a lotof people go anymore because there's so many
different events, they'll be spread out. But that's actually asked us not to
come there. But there'll be peoplethere. Well, that's that's I have
to go. It's you know me, I just walk down the road to

(47:51):
City Hall and there'll be people there. Yeah. We didn't like it there
when they made us go there anyways. But yeah, I'm super excited about
the Cannon Cicket event because I havea lot of cool things going on there.
Cool, it's a new two roomvenue and you know what are you
planning on doing, Steve? Well, the four twenty day itself, and
I'm going to do the music stuffas much as I can the night before,

(48:14):
so Cypress Hill to a couple ofother shows, maybe the Methan Red
if I can stack them upright andget there on time. I kind of
run myself a little bit ragged tryingto see a lot of stuff. The
four to twenty itself. I willdo the Washington Square and a couple of
other things to do around New Yorkthat I'm not sure yet. We're also

(48:34):
going to be distributing the cannabis ofyou know, a parade flyer. Try
to get around town as much aspossible and just give it out so people
aware of our event ten days later. So just as many things I can
hit as possible. But you know, find Large is the nightly music event.
So the biggest stuff in that WashingtonSquare event. During the day,
Yeah, yeah, I'm literally justgonna sit on my deck and a couple

(48:55):
of babies with my dog. I'mgoing to I'm going to watch everybody eat
cheesecake. Well it looks like meand Mary doing the only people are going
to be working it. Yeah,I'm going to be so wiped at the
end of the day. But literallyfor twenty is like my birthday okay,

(49:17):
So it's if I was born onfor twenty, it would be my it
feels like my birthday, Christmas,and then on on you know the GMM.
That feels like my New Year.So I celebrate everything all at once.
I don't even celebrate birthday on mybirthday. I just like Lily's birthday

(49:38):
is for twenty. So that's whyI'll be watching them eat cheesecake. See
that's my dad's birthday. That wasHitler's birthday too. Yep, well sadly,
yep. I'm glad, you know. I'm glad that you know is
a very It's it's a fucking day. No, it's the event for potheads

(50:01):
that has you know, they cango out and go woo woo woo woo.
Uh. But in the community,for me, I like seeing all
my friends. It's not it's nota protest. It's just you're there that
you know. It's not like theg m M is a protest still,
right, It's a festival, it'sa party, it's you can call it

(50:23):
whatever you want, but it's it'sa protest. Yeah, we're just that.
It's it's come on, let's golisten to me. I sound like
an old frien. Yeah, Iknow it's a it's a party for sure,
and everybody does it. I meanI'll be sitting here probably yapping with

(50:44):
people that I know and and andsaying what you doing? What you doing?
Mary Jane? You know, rememberI live vicariously through people's pockets into
these days. Steve, remember thefour twenty show that we did We're One
for every time zone and smoked ourbrain toat all day. I don't want

(51:07):
to do that again. Yeah,but I remember. I remember when we
were at high times and uh,and we had to leave the office and
uh and sit on like in apark nearby and passed joints in the high
times. Well, it depended forthat kind of crowd for that particular four
twenty we decided to go outside,but we kind of went to like a

(51:29):
park bench and passed underneath. Nobodyknew what we were doing. It was
like total pre for twenty you know, hysteria or whatever that people didn't really
know about it except us. Wewould just kind of do our thing on
me at the office. That dependedvarious offices over the years that I worked
there, in different conditions per officeas far as smoking and what was allowable,
wasn't so. Yeah, we movedaround a lot. We allowed smoking

(51:51):
here at the four twenty radio studio, and I would help you do.
But I mean those back in thosedays. I'm talking like, you know,
the nineties and stuff. When youknow, we get right up by
your building, neighbors and stuff,smokes lunch up the stair well. They
won't one of my neighbors spraying forBrie on my doorframe and my rug outside
my apartment door. Yeah. Yeah, but it's it's, you know,

(52:15):
it's it's something different for different people, you know, I mean everybody.
Some people don't care. Some peoplejust sit there like Mary Jane staring at
the floor. I'm making I'm makingbicycle day plans with one of my favorite
people. Or nineteen great this yearawesome for nineteen. A lot of good

(52:38):
things scheduled before nineteen. Yeah,best twenty. I'm telling you this is
kind of be the best four twentyweekend maybe ever. Really you really believe
that? Well, I mean,come come around to seven or eight more,
seven more years till we have anotherone. What's the world like?
Then? Fair enough? Fair enough? But by it could be like it

(53:00):
could be like uh, Monday,the overcast. Now you can't rain on
our parade. Wow? Do youwant to take a break, everybody?

(53:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, I canmake your tea. I'm gonna I'm gonna
put some Facebook cleared music, okayon Saturday for Saturday for twenty ye just
haang on, I'm looking for somethingto put on here for now? Do
you still need me? Okay,So to say you can stay, Steve,

(53:44):
you're more than welcome to. Yeah, of course, watch all right,
you enjoy Steve. Always a pleasureuntil next time, we'll say thank
you, yeah, and enjoy youryank you to just let us know via
your pictures and I have joined youryour Patreon, yes, Evan, look,

(54:04):
thanks appreciate that all right. Yeahboom, I think your weather,
your weather for four twenty should bebarely okay, yeah, you're checking,
you're checking that up. Yeah,ours is rain. He's a weather weather.
We four twenty weather has been fantasticthe last few years. And then
then then two weeks later we gotwe got rain on our parade. Yeah,

(54:29):
hopefully not. You know, wehad it two years ago though,
you know, you know, sothey did great four twenty weather and then
you know, then it kind ofcooled down and rain, so you never
know. I mean that time ofyear is still a little spotty. Supposed
to rain a lot during April andMay anyway, but a little bit more
than usual. We've been having alot, a lot of rain in New
York lately, a lot rainy,creepy, creepy movie fog weather that I

(54:52):
flood had a flooding kind of rainingkind of stuff. Yeah, we are
already got We've already got a forestfire going up here apparent. Yeah,
yeah, what are you going.We're the only ones that are going to
get rained for four twenty from looksof it. Oh so Toronto's fine,
New York's fine even, but funcknowhere is fine. That is five four.

(55:20):
Look, how is what May fourth? May four? I can't call
that far man. I can't predictMay fourth for weather, right, yeahm
mm hmmm. We'll be fine.It should be warmer, be fine,
it'll it'll be warmer, warmer.We're getting up. It's we're supposed to

(55:43):
hit eleven or twelve this week,so we're we're hoping we're his tomorrow.
Always a pleasure. My friend willlame baseball and we'll be right back.
I'm going to put on a littlething and and and we'll come back with
some our see stuff. Take careof bye guys. Hi. I'm Timmy

(56:09):
and I'm Mary Jane. He's thenewbie, she's the doobie. And this
is the show where we we tellcannabis talk from both sides. Is that
even possible? Your ad irritates Ohshe's gone? Did she leave? It

(56:34):
irritates her? Irritates me? Whybecause it drives my OCD fucking nuts.
Why because because he went and she'stalking in my right ear and it's wrong.
Okay, so we'll be back.Yeah, i'mondres. So flipp on

(57:21):
the planet because the rust and Pollutionband, it's a diamond tricks. Flipp
on the planet. I grow byyour constranger, you get the banquet.
I'mon. That's up. Flipp onthe planet, protection and love to everyone.
The bondet does say i'mon shouts outflipp on the planet. When they

(57:44):
use them on us and we eachin the climate, does IMAG shouts up
flipp on the planet. Rusty withall let's just say, IMAG shouts so
flip on the planet. Grope yourarms stronger the bank. I said,
I'm a trip under planted, protectionand love to everyone my bonnet, I

(58:09):
said, when you not have momos, you know we do the damn it.
Oh no, I said, ohno, the com yes, because

(58:29):
Earth is our only home. Let'scome together and be asthma, mams,
doctors and sons. Let's move awayfrom separation. Teach the young one's a

(58:50):
unification, yea. The only wayfareris one that's vibrasure. On the way
forward is one's vibration. Hey doyou hear i'mon treats are flipp on the

(59:19):
planet, a rust and not dealwith pollution and dimon treads are flipp on
the planet. I your grow yourcorns stangna defend the bumpet. I said,
I'm a treads, a flipp onthe planet. Protection and love to
everyone with planet, I said,I'm a treads a flipp on the planet

(59:42):
when they use them and a weekdomage the climate. I said, I'm
a treasure flipp on the planet,rust and not de with colution, diamond
shres u flipping the planet. Igrow, I connad dead the bank diamond.
It's off the planet, protection andlong to everyone that ponet, I

(01:00:07):
said, timon, it's off onthe planet when the huts can go out.
I'm gonna be then it's the climate. Oh no, oh no,
move awhere from segregation here? Doyou hear Tach the young one say,

(01:00:32):
unifiation, crime on crime on theonly web is my res The only is
wonder ration? Do you hear fishPaula Holder? We'll see what happens with

(01:01:02):
that music that wasn't so bad.Actually that's that's from the Facebook cleared catalog
that you're allowed to use in yourcontent. Oh really yeah, but people
know that YouTube's gonna sing me.Yeah. I didn't know that Facebook had
cleared music. They have a wholecatalog. Yeah, thousands of songs,

(01:01:24):
anything good? Well you just heardthat, Yeah, I mirchelle. I
could we could try some wrap nexttime? DC Pink Floyd. Yeah,
I know they don't have that there. Sorry, I didn't think they would.

(01:01:46):
No, no, no, Sowe are back and I'm just gonna
do this little thing here. I'mgonna go like this how rude? Yeah

(01:02:09):
yeah, so woh yeah. Soit's gonna talk a little boat a little
bit tonight at just about uh harvest, when it's coming on harvest time,
when to know when to cut yourplants? And a little bit of post

(01:02:30):
harvest because you can grow some ofthe you can grow and you can have
an awesome crop, but you canfuck it in your herb, in your
in your drying and harvest, yourpost in your post harvest stage. And
that's unfortunately, that's what happens toa lot of people. Or hand mold,

(01:02:50):
yeah, and old, but it'sit's they don't they don't dry it
properly, or they dry it toofast. I like drying rack. I
have a drying rack, as youknow. MJ sent me when I was
at the farm and I used itthat first year and it was just awesome.
Now I have it downstairs sitting inthe corner waiting to be set up

(01:03:13):
again this year. I oh,let's pray for al pray got you gotta
The one thing you got to rememberwith with drying racks, l is uh,
if you don't roll your buds,you'll get what they call BedHead on
one side of your buds. Theycall it BedHead. Yep, that's so

(01:03:35):
appropriate because that's exactly what it is. Just flat. I I go,
I go down every couple of daysand give it a tap and move them
around. If you don't roll themyou'll get BedHead on them and they'll flat.
Note And I mean, if you'resmoking yourself, does it really matter
if you're smoking yourself. No,but if if that's if you're growing that

(01:03:57):
for for the mark, wouldn't beall right? No? No, Well
there's no different than I guess vacuumsealing a bag fucking singing tight, and
and then buds are all exactly mypoint. I don't like, right.
I I bought and I've gotten poundafter pound after pound, and it's been

(01:04:20):
all vacuum sealed, and it's andit's flat, like your buds are flat.
Yep, that's how it usually comeswhen when uh, when I order
bulk. Yeah, one sec Alberyback, what's up? Are we doing
a show or are we just sittinghere? We're waiting for Darcy. Okay,

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that's how we're going to do thegrow the grow. He was he
was trying to start it, butthen i'l saw a squirrel. I didn't
see a squirrel, Darcy did.He's the one that fucking rolled off.
He'll be back blah blah blah blahblah. Oh, I'll be right back.
Maybe he got he's going to getsomething to show us. Probably yes,

(01:05:04):
Oh what, I'd be afraid tobe afraid of? What? Why
you rolled off? I just hadto grab something. Okay, see he
grabbed something. He had to goand pee. No, But I was

(01:05:33):
just going to talk a little bitabout about post harvest and uh and harvest.
I guess because I'm getting to thepoint now where my tent is really
really close. I was looking todayat some plants in there, and I
likely to cut them now just becausethey're just just because they got ill.

(01:06:00):
There's a lot of red hair.And when I looked at the trifone production
here the last time, I wasstarting to see the odd amber head in
there, and that was on Monday, five days A lot, a lot.
We'll mature up in five days.So I'm gonna get ready and cut

(01:06:23):
them, I think tomorrow morning.But then the fun part starts the post
harvest. Because I did awesome onthat crop. I can fuck it really
quick by drying it too quick andright now, depending on the weather that

(01:06:43):
I get, which I will lookat. If it's really humid, it's
not good for me, but ifit's really dry, it's not good for
me. So I gotta try tobalance that out with not having all the
proper equipment, and it can bedone. It just you have to to
really take your time. Are younot doing this year? Oh? Yes,

(01:07:04):
that's why I'm That's why I'm tryingto get my crop out of the
way so I can get my myclones in there, so I can get
a few more cuttings off of them, so I can have some bigger ones.
And all my sea plants are abunch of sea plants are started.
So all them seeds I showed youlast week, they're all up and poking

(01:07:26):
through the ground now awesome. Yeah, And I'm gonna do something here for
you, uh likely. If itdoesn't get done this Wednesday, it'll be
done next Tuesday. I gotta Igotta go talk to Pure Later or FedEx

(01:07:49):
and see which one can get mypackage to you within two days. I
get it to you if I can. If I can get it, choose
my three and four days regular.Yeah, I know, if I pay,
If I can pay a little more, I'm gonna see if I can

(01:08:09):
get it there in two days.If I can, then I can put
some some cuttings in there for you. All I gotta do is just cut
them and wrap them in paper townand put them in a baggy and as
long as it suppose they're supposed likelike they're supposed to be in dark anyways,
right, So yeah, well youryour clones don't beat much light.

(01:08:32):
There's no room, so's it's notgonna affect them as much as if there
was. We kill home. Yeah, we'll well, we'll keep people posted
on this experiment. Yeah, wellthis is it, but no, uh
the far as uh post harvest goesout. Humidifiers is a must. You
definitely want to commodifier because that waythere you can set you can you can

(01:08:54):
pre set a proper commdification there soyou can kind of hold it there.
I have one of those self.What do you call it? A standing
air conditioner dehumidifier, think of ajiggy? Oh yeah, and I'm gonna
pump it out the window. Ohwell, yes, that'd be a good

(01:09:15):
idea. Now along with my Nowyour dehumanifier, can you pump it?
So what you mean by pumping outwhen you're gonna mump the water at the
window air so your water it mustbe one of the ones that you just
open up the basket on the backsreservoir. Yeah, that's you know,
probably five gallon. Ah, sothis is this is like a portable.

(01:09:44):
Yeah you can. You can actuallyput that close enough to like I have
one in my basement and it's drainedright to my right to a drain.
Yeah, that's that's that's the plan. But for right now, it's got
the bucket. It does it hasa hose place. Yeah, it's just
a pain in the asked if youdon't, If you don't get to the
bucket in time, well, offit shuts off on its own. Mine

(01:10:08):
didn't. Yeah, well, whenyou attach the hose. No, it
just when you attach the hose.There is no float switch, that's what
I'm saying. If you put thebucket underneath it. Yeah, so if
your hose gets clogged, or ifyour budget gets full and you don't get
back, it shuts off. Wellno, no, no, no,

(01:10:29):
the unit has its own container forthe water. Yeah, that has If
you bypass that unit and hook thehose up to a bucket underneath, off,
Well, because you have it,you have a bigger reservoir. If
so. For example, I usedto have the big bucket underneath because if

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I had just the reservoir, I'dbe emptying it six times a day.
But the big bucket, I onlyin my basement. I do so.
There is an underwater spring that runsright from across the street up against my
house and around my house. Mymy child's down here. If I if

(01:11:16):
I didn't have the humidifiers, sorry, the de humidifier on would be dark.
They're damn lake it's bound. Doyou have a floor drain? Yes,
put the hose from your your dehumidifier into the Oh yeah, it's
it's actually in the sump. It'swhere the sump pump is. Now.

(01:11:39):
Sure, then you never have toworry about it. No, not anymore?
Yeah, yeah, but upstairs withthe air conditioner, I did,
do you see? No, well, I can't run that one to the
basement. What the play? Yeah? Why not? Not drilling through the

(01:12:02):
holes or drilling through the floor.Yeah, but you generally leave it in
the room that it's on, andyou leave it in the in the bedroom
or in the So can you pumpthat water out the window if you?

(01:12:26):
It has to be lower than theunit, and the unit sits on the
floor. But he says, wateryour plants with it. Oh, I
guess you could, Yeah you can. Is it actually water? Yeah,
it actually is water that's been takenout of the air and liquid. I

(01:12:47):
know you laugh at me, butit smells funny. It's not so much
filter. I wouldn't want to Iknow, I wouldn't drink it. I
mean I drink it if it andthe last resort, like during the zombie
apocalypse, that's the first water I'dbeen going for, know what? Andrea

(01:13:09):
that or the fresh water or somethingthe dishwasher, sorry, and these Their
solution is just to get a heatpump. They're very expensive. Yeah,
I mean it's on the pricer side, but it'll keep you. I'd have

(01:13:30):
every humidity that you want. Ihave an air conditioner for sale if anybody
needs. No, I don't,I'm just kidding, but I won't need
it here. I have a windowair conditioner that will never be used again.
Because we have the heat pump.I can turn the host on,
keep it chill bow all summer.The the the air comes up the hill

(01:13:55):
through the forest from the lake,comes with and right through my window and
then right out the back door.I don't need air conditioning here at all.
The highest the highest it got herelast year was twenty seven I think,
yeah, which is great. Ilove it. You know. It's
the bugs. I'm inside anyways.The bugs are bad. They're like like

(01:14:19):
hornet size. They'll carry you awayafter Oh god, you have you probably
have Texas horse flies flies, thoselittle tiny noseums. And then every now
and then a mosquito comes along inzinc. Which one. It's not a
horse fly. There's a horse fly. Oh it is a horse fly.

(01:14:42):
It's the Texas the Texas horse fly. Google that. It's like a horse
fly, except it's mass. Yeah, it's huge. Yeah. We've got
the big black flies. We've gotthe small little ticks, we've got the
little little noseums. And then,like I said, the mosquitoes come along
now and then. But the hellor no little bastards. Those are black

(01:15:04):
flies. No noms are smaller thana black fly. And is that why
they call them because you don't seethat. Yeah, they'll they'll go through
a fine mess screen like on awar. I'm googling this. And when
they they hurt, oh god,they hurt more than a fucking mosquito.

(01:15:29):
Take black flies are the worst.They take chunks, they take No,
we have moose flies here, Yeah, take the chunks, and horse flies
will take a chunk deer flies willtake a chunk. Oh my god,
here's a sum let's show it uphere. Send me the link. I'll
put it up. Use the privatethey are topog private chat. Please google

(01:15:58):
it, google it. What's aWhat are you looking for? What is
it? I just typed in?Oh no, no, no o.
The population is thriving, wonderful.They are called the cardinal. Yes,

(01:16:20):
this is this is what they're called. Here, Uh, where's where's there's
a little there's usually a little thingthat says that plays the word I can't
see it's no cum C A RA T O P O G O N
I D E A d a E. This is the part that's more concerning

(01:16:41):
about all of this. The bytesappear a day or two after the initial
byte. These are painful and canshow up as a red multi byte cluster
mm hmm. And then it saysover time, these bites can often enlarge
and look like well. They canextend up to two inches in diameter,

(01:17:02):
and these wealth can take up totwo weeks or more to start complete or
to start healing and disappear completely.Mm hmm. I make a I make
this really nice cream. Oh,put on you put on it. And
it goes away almost instantly. Weneed to get some of your stuff over

(01:17:25):
here in Ontario. Yeah, hitme up afterwards and we'll make a deal.
What brings out, No sums.They're attracted to the scent of carbon
dioxide naturally. Humans your breath thesame as mosquitoes eaters. If you hold

(01:17:50):
your breath nj ra mosquitos, theycan't find it. I'm actually looking on
like if I can can like createthis like Goba next week with a big
bruise on her head, like likeI'll create a gas mask thing like that,

(01:18:11):
and then like so if if theyall come around here, like way
up here, then they're not goingto bite me. They'll just bite Timmy
because he's taller. You would needa rebreather that would basically take your air,
your breath out and recirculate it backinto air that you can breathe again.
Yeah, one of those and likea yeah, yeah, like a

(01:18:35):
self contained thing that keeps the COtwo in because as soon as the c
CO two comes out, that's whatthey're going to get you. H Like
flies to ship, Yeah, likeflies to ship? There you heard it
here, folks like flies. Here'shere's the cool thing. About mosquitoes though,

(01:18:58):
if you want to avoid and bitby a lot of mosquitoes, don't
go out after it's been wet weatheror after four o'clock and the temperature has
gone up to seventeen degrees celsius inthe evenings when it's crispy, because they'll
lay their eggs in a puddle.The puddle or evaporate and they can sit

(01:19:23):
there dry for seventy years and whenthe rain hits. As soon as the
rain hits, they hatch and they'reextremely hungry. Welcome to the four radio
show. Yeah, oh else toMarcell, what was that? Is it
something else? But you know theyou know them snails you can algae snails

(01:19:45):
you can get for your tank thatovertake your tank. Yeah, apple snails
are a bad one. Yeah.Well my brothers, my brother while my
sister in law, uh, theyhad them in their fish tank down there
and took her fucking first effort toget rid of she says, she boiled
water and put in that tank.That's like the the star the clams or

(01:20:09):
whatever that that grow under a hallof a boat and canicles, barnacles,
they don't grow just on the bottomof the boat. Would get barnacles on
lobsters, whales, anything that movesslow that that it can attach to.
Okay, it will walk on andthen start growing. Yeah, I had

(01:20:31):
to. I had to scrape abouta how when I was a kid.
It was part of my job.Like parasites, yeah, they are a
parasite. Basically, they're very they'revery evasive. But well no, you
can't really call them a parasite becausethey're not taken from the host. Right,
So a parasite would be an organismjust that's feeding off of the host,

(01:20:57):
whereas a barnacle is just using itas a vehicle to move it around.
Okay, I'm gonna try something new. I don't like the taste of
coffee, okay, but I'm reallystoned and I need some chocolate, So
I'm gonna eat have a bite ofa coffee Crisp, and you guys can
continue talking. If I have toa coffee Crisp is less coffee and more

(01:21:19):
chocolate, well we're gonna find out, aren't we. I really is.
I like coffee cris because it doeshave a nice coffee flavor. You know
what, I don't like coffee,but I like coffee chris. You know
what. I don't like coffee,but I like coffee crisp, thank you.
Yeah, I don't drink coffee,but I love Marshall's Moga ice cream.
Yeah. Yeah. If I hadskills like Marcel, I wouldn't be

(01:21:44):
going to the cannabis because I'd beable to make something just a streat.
So my animal think, I thinkI'm gonna try something. I think when
on pay Day, I think I'mgonna place some order with Legacy for twenty.
I see they'll ship all the wayto Nova Scotia to me, what
are you going to order? Iwant to. He was supposed to send

(01:22:06):
me some of them pop, SoI want to try some of his some
of his drinks. They make aa juice, not a juice, but
an extract. Yeah yeah, sothat you can put it in whatever you
want, because al can't have anythingother than like uncarbonated water. So he

(01:22:29):
makes his own and you can getit like he talks about it all the
time. Yeah, I know,I want to because he said, uh,
I don't ever believe in them andand anything when it comes to drinks,
because most of time you have toput distol it in or islands in
them and spectrum and he why,he's yeah, right, So I want

(01:22:54):
to get it. I want toget a couple so I can I can
try them. But I also wantto let get get a couple of mare
Sofa. I would be curious.I haven't. I haven't had any of
theirs in like I want to say, like three four years, but I
know that what I tried to before, they were very like oily, Like,
I don't know if people just expectyou not to like open their products

(01:23:16):
like pre rolls. I tear openall the pre rolls, Canna Pop.
I'm pouring that in a glass,like I want to see what I'm drinking
and to look at it like youcould see like the oil separation and drinking
it felt very like you know howcoke makes your teeth feel gritty, And

(01:23:36):
I'm like, that's what I wasfeeling from it. So I I need
to try it again because they've doneyou know what I mean, all products
get better with time, So Imean, you hope he's got a sixty
miligram can of soda. Wow.And then there's four twenty shots, which

(01:23:57):
are the ten milligram shots you're talkingabout. Yeah, And then he makes
a nectar lemonade, and it's different, like different flavored, Like there's a
raspberry neckar lemonade than the lemonade.I think those are big cellars. Yeah,
I know that they're ten bucks there. I think there were ten bucks
a piece. I can tell youa seconds I had. I was just

(01:24:17):
I was looking there earlier. Howmany milligrams are those ones? I'm gonna
find right now? Man, Jay, right now you're saying about eight bucks
for ten mils? What's that?Thanks for the flags? Oh yeah,

(01:24:39):
yeah it is? That shirt gonnafit? I don't know, but I'll
find somebody that it will fit ifit doesn't fit me, okay, Okay.
The next for drinks and an actordrink the nectar drinks of thirty milligrams

(01:24:59):
and they're five hundred millial leaders okay, and there are ten bucks each.
They're five bucks apiece. Oh fuck. Okay, so they're a lot higher
dose and they're cheaper. Yeah.I personally, I just want to say,
my son turned nineteen. I knowI told you that, And I

(01:25:19):
told you that there was nothing thathe wanted to try. Did he tell
you he wants to try weed?He told me we were sitting here listening
to a bunch of people talk aboutthe shesh hash cola, and he's like,
okay, why why is everybody goingnuts about this? Sheh so crazy?
So so that's what we did.I took a can and I split

(01:25:42):
it in half, so he hadhalf and I had half. And I
checked on him before I went tobed. I said, how do you
feel? And he said it wasfine, of course. And at this
point, I can barely keep myeyes open, my legs feeling like rubber,
like I'm I'm And he had thetunes on or a movie. He's

(01:26:02):
sitting there chatting with his friends,playing a game. And I said,
you'll all right, but I'm headedto bed. He didn't respond. I
said I. He didn't respond.I giggled. He goes, hey,
I'm just trying to focus here,and I was like okay, and I
left. Yeah, he was reallytrying to focus because he said he was

(01:26:25):
struggling. He was like, Iwas like, so relaxed. Oh I
got something to tell you, marcell. Oh have you ever heard of Wait
a second, i'd better say thisright, uh message right here? No
wrong one this one uh it iscalled can of sugar. Yeah, have

(01:26:53):
you ever heard of it? Before, like like people making it. Oh
yeah, okay, a company calledNana n A n n A. Yeah
yummy, shout out to shout outto hash Rocky. Uh. Anyways,

(01:27:13):
he uh, good buddy of mine. He made a batch, but he
made a super dose batch. Soit's the same guy that I gave you
the hash from hersel. Yeah.Yeah, he made a bat. He
made that cand of sugar. Yeah. And and his batch came out close
to eight hundred milligrams for the totalbatch. Yes, a spoon, that

(01:27:38):
would be a gram of oil fortea spoon. Uh, he ain't gonna
happen, man, Uh, thatwould be a lump. It's like I
want to to do the Canda sugarright, you use an alcohol tincture and
then evaporates the alcohol off. Okay, I want to ask him how you

(01:27:59):
did the process here? But yeah, yeah, I just sent you.
I sent it to our privacy,to our group. But yeah yeah,
but he sending me some to Troy, so cool. Once they get it,
you can try some. I couldsee eight hundred milligrams for the whole
badge. Look at that, Marcel. What am I looking at? Here?

(01:28:25):
Them two pitchers? I just sentyou the group mmm, I'm gonna
have to make some cookies. Man. Yeah, that's really dark. Super
he said super dose can of sugarshould be close to eight hundred milligrams per
teaspoon. Wow. Wow, Howhow would you even test that? I

(01:28:51):
had to send it to a lad. They need to vote fifty milligrams or
half a gram of it to test. Yeah, uh, would would would
would? Uh? Uh? What'shis name? Tim Burnhurt? No,

(01:29:14):
no, no, uh oh,I don't know. Give us a clue
here the episode to test your medsguy, Dana Larson there, you can
send it to him. That's that'ssomething he could test. Yes, yeah,

(01:29:34):
anybody, anybody with a mass effectcontest that that has has a setup
for cannabinoids can test it. Okay, all right? Uh even HBLC.
Somebody at home with one of theat home kids and the slide can test
it. Okay, So all right, I get it. Anything that will

(01:29:58):
test for for cannabis you can use. Well yeah, I mean if there's
cannabis in it, all right,then So what happens is you take a
small sample about fifty milligrams, andyou dissolve it in a solvent and then
you can either put it on aglass slide and incubate it briefly to activate

(01:30:24):
it, or put it in amass spect and have it spit out what
the content is. Okay, allright, So edibles are done the same
way, bud is done the sameway, hash oil, everything is all
done the same way. The problemis when you get the bud, it's
very subjective because you're taking you're takinga fifty milligram sample off of a are

(01:30:54):
better to take well, yeah,because you're going to be a little more
precise of what you get for anactual yeah, Right, whereas bud one
bud tested five different spots on thesame bud will give you five different readings
of THC content. Right, Sothere's there's there's no symmetry between trichomes.

(01:31:19):
So different parts of the bud aregoing to have higher amounts of THHC than
CBD. The other ones are goingto have higher CBD and less THC.
So it just comes up and sayswe well, no, it comes up
and gives you a value of whatyou've tested in that area. So if

(01:31:39):
I was testing bud, I wouldalways take three samples of the bud and
take the average of those three asbeing This is the THC content of this
bud. Where would you take thosethree samples from top side, middle,

(01:32:00):
middle? What if you have afull crop, you have a whole room,
and they're all the same. Picka bud top side, middle,
top side, if you can do, or one plant of one plant.
Because because your THAC content of yourflower is subjective, not all of it
is the same. All right,So if you take an average. So

(01:32:23):
let's say I grow something spectacular andI send it the lab and the lab
says, all right, the firstsample test that twenty five percent THC,
the second stamp sample tested it twentysix percent THC, the last sample test

(01:32:47):
that twenty four. Then my averagewould be twenty five. And that's what
I would base all of that bloodon. Is it averages out to about
twenty five percent for that But forfor that, for that batch, But
what about what about if that wasa higher HC plant than its brothers and

(01:33:11):
sisters and in that room and itcould But but you you're you're gonna sit
basically, you're gonna take your buttsamples for testing off your best looking buds.
Yeah, well that's what I wasthinking. I was like an LP
or grower or whatever it could literallyjust take the best of the best and
just take all the best. Sowhat what an l Yeah, but what

(01:33:33):
an L field do is they'll dotheir harvest. It's all trimmed, it's
ready to go. Then they'll takemix it all together and take, you
know, your under one hundred gramsout of it to send to the lab
for all the testing. So you'regetting a mixed mash of all of the

(01:33:54):
different ones, but not a veryvalid Well no, because it sounds like
logical to me. Right, here'syour samples from that room, right,
here's where the issue rises. Labswill take the samples and they'll say,
okay, let's run five THCHC orsome five cannabinoid tests. They'll run five

(01:34:16):
and they'll get range anywhere from twentytwo to thirty two percent depending on the
test. They'll only submit the highestone. Oh yeah, no, it's
got to be an average, right, But they won't. They don't do
that because everybody's looking for the highestTHC content. So they'll they'll try and

(01:34:36):
to appease them as much as theycan at the lab by giving them the
sample that showed the highest THC.Technically, they can turn around and say,
yes, this is you know,thirty two percent THC when in actuality
the average is probably twenty six.It was just that one part of that

(01:34:59):
bud test note really high. We'llgo with that. It's well, I
guess if there's no rule against that, then it's the same. It's the
same as grading. Grading cannabis isthe same as grading meat. It's done
by the growers, right, they'llgrade the cannabis. Well, that looks

(01:35:21):
like a quad. Okay, it'sa quad, right, But there's no
criteria of two what qualifies as aquad And it's just basically it goes by
looks. Is it triple A ortriple B? Right, it's the same

(01:35:45):
way that meat is graded. Gradedmeat is just done by the producer of
the meat or whoever had the opportunityto package it and sell it. I
do want to point this is whyI like smalls, because there's no grading
and you're getting a nice bud andit's usually just as potent is the big

(01:36:05):
stuff. You're going to break upthe big stuff into smaller stuff when you
put it in your grinder anyways,and stems, and you're throwing away big
stems half of it sometimes stem Yeah. Yeah, Well, I do want
to say. There is this newthing that started here at least in Ontario

(01:36:28):
that's called dank Certified. It's agroup of over one hundred people within the
cannabis community space industry, whatever youwant to call it, that randomly gets
selected every month. I think there'slike two hundred. But they send out
a hundred samples from a specific companyand they all judge it and send in

(01:36:51):
what their thoughts are and then itgets a score out of one hundred and
so if you have a product,you can actually have it dank certified.
Me though, what's that that couldbe? But that could be impartial though
you how do you what do youmean impartial? Househol But one company could

(01:37:14):
you know? We could I couldjust like cops. They could pay you
to break them a good review.Oh no, absolutely not, because I'll
tell you how it comes. Itcomes in an envelope that just says dank
Reviews. On the package, itsays the numbers, so it says one
zero zero seven, it'll say flower, and it'll say whether it's Indiga hybrid

(01:37:36):
or sativa. And that's all youget to know about it until they've received
one hundred people with their their reviewsand then they announced, Hey, just
so you know, sample one zerozero seven was actually this product from this
company. So there's like you don'tknow what you're sampling, yes at all?

(01:38:00):
Blind like hers? Yeah, yeah, Like I got a really really
beautiful ball of hash that was sofreaking good and I'll tell you it is
uh excas hashtag And I didn't knowthat either. It's like you're you're waiting,
You're waiting what you know? Whenwhat is this? You got this
amazing thing that you tried, butlike you want to buy more and you

(01:38:21):
don't know what it is until theycome out with the actual like overall results.
Oh is it here? Marcel sermy curtains are you can hear?
Yeah? What was I going tosay? There? Marcella was gonna say

(01:38:43):
something else? Either? You knowthat's that that's that's his name. As
a cannabis somalia, how you know? How can you call yourself? Who
says that you're a cannabis smolia?You do? Somebody just you know,
somebody just followed me and asked they'dlike to be on the show Who is
a certified cannabis Somonia? That question? Who question? There are where you

(01:39:13):
can get your certification, just likejust like a cancer I got to bring
one of these people on here,then can I can I just say,
okay, you just said like cancell, Well you said cancer, but it
can sell it. So so specificallywhen you do the can sell testing.
Uh, when Timmy did it,which was not that long ago, they

(01:39:36):
specifically spoke about the difference in effectwhen it comes to indica, sativa and
hybrids and how indica was in thecouch and sativa was an uplifting And I
told Timmy and he's like, no, that's not true. I was like,
yes, babe, you're correct,that's not true. They're just behind
with the time. Now moving forward, I pick up all information I can

(01:40:00):
from the legal dispensaries whenever I seesomething like this, especially when it has
the OCS on the bottom, andlike, what information are they passing along?
This one here says on indica,sativa and hybrids. It says myths.
Maybe you've heard that consuming indica leadsto finding yourself into couch because indica
is thought to produce calming effects whilesativa is considered energizing. There's lots of

(01:40:25):
reasons why it doesn't. And thenit says, fact, Okay, here's
the fact. Okay, the termrefers to the plant types and species origins.
The following features may be more reliableindicators of potential effects. And then
it talks about cannabinoids, terpenes andthe entourage effects. And this is now

(01:40:47):
coming from the OCS. So justlike we were talking about earlier with like
with Steve, about how things willslowly evolve, they're already starting to change
their verbiage. They're already starting toput out pamphlets on what are terpenes?
Okay, but the government has stillnot removed cannabis is not a mageth magathn

(01:41:11):
no steps though. Like just herethey're talking about the different terpenes, but
they don't actually say what terpenes benefit. So you have to still go and
do your own research as to likehow pineing is good for relaxation or do
you know what I mean? Butit's it's slowly evolving. I'm just tooper

(01:41:32):
excited speaking about evolving. I waslike, can I do a shotel well,
I want to ask you before youbefore you do it, before you
do a show intel women in weed? What is that? I pulled this
out. It was like it lookslike the same book that Steve had on
his show, just a different version. Oh yeah, I think I got

(01:41:54):
the magazine version. Was that itcan I do my show? Te Yes,
what are you showing? Okay,So first I bought this vap It's
a live resin from Tribal called Jigglers, super tasty. Love it. But
then I got this battery because okay, so the tin here this is for

(01:42:17):
the CBD run same company as Tribal, but it's got like thank you to
this cannabis company for finally putting theirvape cart in a nice little uh child.
No, No, it's well,I mean there's buttons on the side,

(01:42:39):
like if I tried, if Itried to open it, and even
if I pushed one side, Istill can't. Okay, but yeah,
I've just gotten handy with learning howto use it. So anyways, I
pulled this the foam out and I'vebeen able to use it for my doobies.
This one, I've got my filtersin. I peeled the front sticker
off. I was a little sadabout the backsticker because it's not a sticker,

(01:43:02):
and then I noticed it said somethinghandy on here, So I'm kind
of glad that they print it righton here. It says optimal vape voltage
like power setting, and I waslike, well that's handy. Well,
no, that's handy because I justbought this cool battery from I'm trying to

(01:43:23):
figure out what the best temperatures areon the student glass for concentrates, but
you can't adjust it for the weedone. Well, this this vape battery
that I got from Smoke Carsenal,it's a nova battery. You can do
it per voltage like per point one. Yeah, so I can actually put

(01:43:46):
it at the right setting. Whatcan you go up to? Okay,
so the lowest it goes one pointeight and it goes up to four point
two, which would be what fourhundred and twenty? No, it's four
point two bolts, oh volts.But what's what's the heat? Like?
You know what I mean? Like, what's the temperature? I don't know,

(01:44:09):
but I know that this one heresays I'm supposed to keep it at
this temperature and that's going to giveme the best flavoring. So I was
like, that's just thank you totribal. Somebody over there is definitely consuming
the product and it's thinking about thingslike this, and Jay say, didn't
rupt you? Are you signed upwith with Optimists yet? Yes? I

(01:44:31):
try the Iris Okay, Iris LiveBay Cartridges try them. Okay, I'm
I'm digging the live resin the liveI get to try one of these ones.
They're fucking amazing. Okay. I'mvery picky with them too, because
I don't like smoking all that totalFarrel vitamin E ship that's mixed in them,

(01:44:54):
all that dissolut. Yeah. Soso this is only one of the
batteries that I have from Nova.It's it's by far the least cool.
This one I think is my favorite. It's got to the battery thing.
But what's super cool about this oneis it's a cannabis thing inside, so

(01:45:18):
people think it looks like it's Maconi Yeah, so you can get away
with sneaking this in places and theydon't. They don't look twice. But
I also got these from Smoke Personaltoo. I'm like, I love Smoke
Personal. Awesome and it come on, yeah, we can tell what is

(01:45:42):
your hair? Hey, Darcy,did you ever finish your gross thing?
Yeah? We kind of got Wekind of get lebbed into how you guys
got into talking about putting the dmonofr hose in the floor. Yeah,
and you blame me. That wasyou here we got well dehumidifier thing?

(01:46:08):
Was you? No, it wasMary Jane. She started that. Here
we go. What what do youhear were going about? I'm looking here,
I'm here and looking. I can'tcan you? You can't see it?
God, damn it. I'm gonnahave to read this now. But
we got messages. Well yeah,but but uh, Weed says, give

(01:46:30):
me a minute. I have mycana cell and expert. But I also
have a Canadian Master's Certificate from theCanadian Training University, also certified in TLC.
But that's all paper. But thequestion is do you guys? Do
you grow? Bro? Yeah?Do you even grow? Bro? I

(01:47:00):
love it? I grow, Igrow. I got a guess for next
week? Okay? Who my buddy? My buddy that made that Canna sugar?
Okay? Cool? Is this agood time to say I might not
be here next week? No?No, it's Valve birthday, so might

(01:47:23):
go surpriser. Isn't it the daybefore four twenty next week? Yeah?
Bicycle day? Oh god, youcan hear the wind within now? Yeah,
the wind woke me up this morning, was blowing stuff around hitting house.
Yeah, my chairs fly around mydeck all the time in my backyard.

(01:47:46):
Yeah, I'm gonna stake him thisyear. I want one of these
certification things. I want want tobecause I've smoked a lot of canvas and
I know what good cannabis is.I know, I know what flavors are,
and blah blah blah. There aredifferent Somolia courses you could take.
But like Marcel was saying, like, who's accrediting you? Like, so

(01:48:11):
you have a certification from some fuckinggroup, but who the fuck are they?
Exactly? When I teach people howto grow, make edibles, process
everything, and not just growing outdoorsbut growing indoors, hydroponic, aeroponic,
I don't care. I can teachyou to grow any style that you want

(01:48:31):
to grow. But who's going tocertify me? And how much do they
actually know? Well no, no, no, no, no, Marcel,
just back up a second, backup a second. Don't forget what
we don't forget what we did fouryears ago. Well I wrote it.
We wrote a cannabis curriculum for thedal Ac. Yeah, so does that

(01:48:59):
mean overqualified? This is this ismy thing. This is my whole thing.
So are we certified people because webroke the program for the for the
professor. Yeah, technically you guyscould create your course and then just certify
others. Well, we've actually we'vebeen approached to come up with a course

(01:49:24):
and do it and be paid forit. It's just it's a matter of
it. But it's so in depththat the course would have to be broken
up over such a period of time, because where do we start. Okay,
buddy, Buddy says, I've beengrowing for thirty years. That's my

(01:49:46):
expertise. Plus the life long orthe lifelong study of cannabis. Yeah,
exactly exactly, So that just putsthree of us all into the same boat
right away. Because Darky falls underthat category. I fall under that category.
Marcel, I have a question foryou. Is there a possibility of

(01:50:10):
creating this course in film so thatway you could record every segment? I
would have to It would be theonly way that it could be done.
I mean, think about it,because I mean you have you're a wealth
of knowledge that I think needs tobe something that it's something that we could

(01:50:30):
do with this this platform here,Marcell. Yeah, I would happily pay
for that course. My problem isis finding the time or to get the
time to be able to commit toit, and that's my biggest problem.
But if you did it once ina while, you'd figure it out,
like yourself. Well yeah, butwhat he means is like, say,

(01:50:54):
for example, if it's going tobe fifty two different videos and he does
one video a week, that's thewhole wouldn't have to do that, you
would? You just do classes whereyou set up a room where a video
chat goes on and has to doclasses the videos and let the videos go.
But I don't. I don't havea problem doing that. Are recorded

(01:51:17):
and right, those get recorded,and those you can send out as your
classes. But there's no difference betweendoing the class, actually there is.
There's really not a whole lot ofdifference between doing the classes and videotaping them
and just doing the videotaping because it'sstill going to require time and it would

(01:51:40):
take more time to organize to dothe classes because they'd have to find a
location to do them mhm and havepeople showing up. So it's got to
be at a timeframe that works foreverybody. And I have an extremely erratic
lifestyle and schedule. But think aboutthis, Marcel. If you do ten

(01:52:03):
classes, just saying ten classes onvideo, you can then reuse those videos
one hundred times. Therefore, onlyyou've only given ten classes of your time,
right right, But and then justhave like other one, you know,
once a month or once every twomonths, have one group, big

(01:52:24):
groups that class. If people wantto come, if people want to come
and watch it live, you shouldallow that. And if they don't,
then they can pay to have thevideo. Right, But to watch it
live, I have to have alocation to do that. Yeah, it's
got to be the least amount ofwork for Marcel as possible if he's going
to do it, or or Iwon't survive. Yeah, yeah, I'm

(01:52:47):
all about kind of like health andwellness expos all weekend and see we can
do we do something like this,Okay, Like you know there's there's something
that you can do that are kindof cool with this, right, Yeah,
I know, I know there's lotsof things that we can do.

(01:53:08):
It's just for me, am Ischedule, say it, come on,
Marsa, say it. No,it's it's it's fucked up. Like I
might go to day two days,three days with nothing to do and then
be slammed for ten days and yeah, I'm working twelve fourteen hour days.

(01:53:31):
Yeah right, so I have highsand I have loaves. I can't schedule
when that's gonna Yeah. See,I'm I'm in the space. You gotta
give me fucking notice. Well,this is what I'm trying to, like
explain this whole video, with thiswhole video thing, is that safe yoga?

(01:53:59):
For example? Well, if Ido a week yoga or seven ten
days of yoga whenever, sorry,do I need to shift over if I
do if I do ten days pleaseyeh. So if I do ten days
of yoga in person in a classroomand it's like ten weeks, that's ten
weeks of my life I have todedicate. Or what I can do is

(01:54:20):
I can record ten sessions whenever Iso choose, and then when I'm done
recording it, I'm going to sellit as a ten week saying and I'll
send you one video every week.Yeah, that's what I mean. Regardless
is a regardless. Now I've gotI've got a shit ton of work to

(01:54:41):
do all weekend. But now theHealth and Wellness expoy is is Saturday and
Sunday and monked In. I'm notgoing to make it for Saturday. I'll
be there for Sunday, but they'renot going to see me tomorrow. Be
because I've got way too much workto do, because I'm missing a day

(01:55:03):
by going there on Sunday, andwe've got to wrap it up so that
Marcel can will go back to work. Yeah, because I got well,
it's only ten o'clock. I gotanother hour, two hours. Second doo,
You've got shit to do. That'smy story in my life. Man.

(01:55:25):
Sure, if we want, andif you're in Monkedin, come check
out the Health Wellness Expo on Sundayafternoon at three o'clock and I'll explain to
you the difference between medical and recreationalcannabis. That'll be about a three minute
conversation. It is a fun one, all right, can I can I?

(01:55:48):
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