Robert Redford

We recently lost another great actor, listen in as we visit about our favorite Robert Redford movies!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, busheads, Welcome to the Seventies Buzz Podcast. I'm Curtis Tucker.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Another exciting episode, you guys, something like everybody else does
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Speaker 1 (01:22):
Or email buzz it boszhead Media dot cold. So we're back. Yes,
it's like it's like quiet around here.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Do it's so quiet?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
We miss you? Gretchen.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Uh, Gretchen's back home, saving sound all that she almost
missed her connecting flight and Charlotte. But she made it.
She said, yeah, let's see what did Steve say.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, let's let's talk about the James Taylor concert real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh yeah, that that was really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's something left over and then we'll talk about it
a little bit on Buzzhead Radio. But yeah, So the
surprise you guys heard last episode was we surprised Gretchen
with tickets to James Taylor. So last Tuesday, which was
a week from tonight, which I can't believe it's already
been a week, we drove over and watched James Taylor.
So we got there. So we had bought just because

(02:21):
it was a Tuesday night, and I don't know, I
bought nosebleed tickets. So I was expecting to be in
the Bok Center like way. I mean literally, our heads
would have been touching the ceiling. We're that high. And
I walked up to get our tickets scanned and it
said surprise upgrade. I was like, what does that mean.

(02:42):
The guy said you got a surprise upgrade and I said,
oh really, So he took me to the window and
I said, I guess I got this surprise upgrade. And
so we got tickets down on the bottom level literally
what six rows from the floor kind of e e

(03:03):
five rows from the floor, which were actually better seats
than on the floor. Oh, absolutely, because you could see
over everybody's head. So we got like at least no
triple the price wise tickets than what we paid for.
So it turned out to be super cool. And I
don't know, I still don't know if that could have

(03:23):
been Keller saw my name and picked us as one
of the upgrades. But anyway, I was totally unaware of
how cool and young, of the energetic, vibrant James Taylor
was at seventy seven.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
But yeah, he's jumping up and down.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
He would jump in, he sang his own songs, he
played his own guitar, just like he probably did twenty years.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Ago, thirty years ago, fourty years.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, I mean that that was one of the coolest
things about his concert. And because he's a solo artist,
of course it makes it easier. But we finally got
to go see artists from the seventies that was the
same as he was in the seventies. You know, there
wasn't like a band member missing or a new singer
or it was James Taylor the way he's always.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Been right, and he had an awesome band.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I had lunch with Klemye yesterday and he's seen him
before and he said, probably one of the best bands
he's ever heard.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, these guys he was.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I mean, back backup band. Probably, Yeah, one of the
best backup bands. And it's not like it's just a
bunch of guys that have been with James. It's these
guys were like super famous in their own right, and
then James Taylor's kind of pieced them together over the years.
And yeah, it was it was good.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, it's very I was impressed. And he's funny.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
He was totally unprepared for how funny he was.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
He was telling him the joke about the stool, and
as he was delivering the punchline, some guy screams out.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
We love you James Taylor.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
So the joke kind of the punchline kind of got muddled.
But it was something to the effect of his doctor
once seemed to something about his stools and he was
playing with the stool.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, he was moving his stool around.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I can't remember how he ordered it, but.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
You couldn't hear him because some goober was who we
love you James Taylor. Okay, anyway, so yeah we all
love James Taylor, but calm down.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, so anyway, we got to go see James Taylor.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Yeah. I actually
saw people there we knew too.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Ran into several people we knew.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, hey, fancy men here. Yeah sh uh. They called
Dave called, uh, he's getting this tire studded next month.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
He's such a stud. Yeah, I guess I guess up
there where he's from. When when when fall hits it's
time to get your studs on?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, I think he said, like the first November is
when you can actually do you remember when we were kids,
like back in the seventies that I remember putting on
the mudd and snow tires?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
No, I remember people putting on chains.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, we never did change. We just did mud snow tires.
And then I think one time we did studs, uh
where they just put these studs in your your car.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
But you know, well, you know I lived with mom
and she drove the Thunderbird, so she wasn't gonna be
putting snow tires on the Thunderbird.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
So yeah, no, we actually had mudd and snow tires.
And then the fall we or the spring, we take
him off and put him back in the pasture, and
the winter came, we put him back on. Huh yeah,
Mudd and snowtires. Now there's uh yeah, so he's talking
about football.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
He enjoyed the Gretchen's episode. Yes, and how quickly time
is going? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's been It's yeah,
it's been. I can't believe it's been a week since
we've been to James Taylor.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah. Crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
And he wanted to ask Gretchen if the Jersey Devil
was a urban legend or if there really is a
Jersey Devil and has she's seen it, Gretchen, Gretchen, Dave
wants to.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Know, Dave, I got some more stuff. We put it
on seventies buzz or a buzzed radio. Uh. Steve Gold
from San Antonio, Steve Gold.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
He said, Gretchen sounds like his ex wife. I don't
know if that's a good thing or not.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I think I think just the voice not.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, yeah, I know her voice. And then the way
she says stuff, uh kind of taking aback a little bit.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
So he gets a kick out of our show. He
got a kick out of you and Gretchen going at
each other a little bit on that episode. Did we
I don't know, did we go Yeah, a little bit,
I mean not, but you do that when you tour together.
You do it all the time, so I'm used to it.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and Dave did say that she said
the word Carmel.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I remember saying Carmel.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh, Gretchen, you said Karmel.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Go back and listen, Gretchen.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, I want to go back and listen, and then
I'll put it. I'll make that my ring tone.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Should I have you checked the poll lately, Larry's poll
on car I have the last few days, but we
were smoking. Carmel was so far ahead. I don't think
I need a check.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's Carmel. Anyway. I'm glad Larry did that.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
And then I said Gretchen called.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
He said that the episode with Gretchen lacked any anyways
except for us playing his anyway, and he said there
was he didn't really notice any tongue clicking. Oh, and
he wanted us to use the word serendipitous more often.
So there you go. Yeah, we just did.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, and and and Steve did call just now. But
I think he may have called because I unintentionally called him.
You know how you're like reading someone's text and you
accidentally hit the call button and you really quick, you
hang up real quick because you didn't mean to call him. So, Steve,
if that's what you call him, But I apologize. I not.
I didn't butt dal you, but I mistakenly I.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Told you he was going to get excited thinking we
were calling him. So he's probably like, hey, I guess
we could have got him on the show.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh yeah, maybe if you had called a little later. Yeah,
he was right in the middle of getting ready to
get ready.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, that's pretty much the calls you got.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Emails are yeah, Jeffrey emailed Jeffrey here what a weather?
One storm after another. I have some recommend recommendations to
make for seventies YouTube channels. I had no idea about
these ones called American Nostalgia, Weird History's Timeline Recollection, Road

(09:38):
and Memory Trails. These have multiple videos about the greatest
decade known to men. Check them out, everyone, So there
you go. If you guys are YouTubers and are looking
for new fun channels, check those out and then the
gal from Zimbabwe.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
We need to talk to this job. I want to
talk to her, you do, Yeah, she needs you need
to call in. We don't even know her name, do we.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I think, uh, she's aka the Mistress of Metal. Oh,
she's got all kinds of nicknames.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Now I really want to talk to her.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Are you in social media Facebook page? Instagram? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
I think she and I tried to find it and
I couldn't find the metal. There's so many other Mistresses
of Metal, so I don't know which one's hers. But
she says, I listened to your recent podcast with Gretchen. Now,
she says, I say she typed it out, so I
don't know. But Carmel, she says, I say, Carmel.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
But the oh a, but the a sound is very slight.
When I hear oh, here's one that gets her. When
I hear people that say Reese's or Reese's pieces as
Rece's and Reese's pieces, it irritates the hell out of me.
Rece's and Reese's pieces do not exist, either, does Caramel.

(11:02):
I listened to a radio show and they're always saying
it as recis and they get a lot of pushback.
On the talk app from listeners. If I ever say recis,
it's more out of it's kind of like the whole
caramel thing. It's more out of humor than so. Uh
So thanks Gal from Zimbabwe. Yeah, we uh we need

(11:26):
uh we need some What do we need from Gal
from Zimbabwe? Send us a link to a Facebook page.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I guess, yeah, or you know or whatever you're on
social media.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
She's you know, she's up in the New England area.
I believe in massive Chusetts.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
So she was from If I not explained that to you,
if she did, I forgot, you know, I forget things.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Okay. So she's been emailing and I wanted to put
her on the map, and she didn't want to be
on the map, okay, and I think we're on a
Facebook live and she chimed in and said, I don't
want to be on the map, and you said, just
put her on Zimbabwe. So the next time she emailed,
she was the Gal from Zimbabwe. So you named her.

(12:14):
I did, yeah, because you said, we.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Always say we had an email from the mistress or
from the mistress from the because we do.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
But that's not what she originally was called.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
So she's not she didn't live in Zimbabwe.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
No, Zimbabwe's in Africa. That No, she lives in the
in New England, and I believe she lives in Massachusetts.
So I'm I'm thinking about putting her on the map anyway,
But yeah, send us a Facebook page and we won't
share it with we won't share with nobody. And I

(12:50):
think that's about it other than yeah, I had a
good time with Gretchen we Uh. I think we kind
of talked about some of that last week's So do
we do anything exciting after other than James Taylor super exciting?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, I took her You took her to uh go
see some stuff on one one day so I could
get some work done. And then and then I took
her on Friday to the Alabasta Caverns.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
That was really cool. That was cool And I remember,
but I don't even remember how long it was I
was there. I don't nothing looked familiar. Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I was a little kid last time I was there,
so I might remember nothing.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I think. I I think I took my kids there,
but I don't remember which, you know, I don't know,
so it's probably it's probably been thirty years at least
since I've been. Cave's pretty much the same, and there
was It was pretty cool because there was a couple
of little bats flying around. Oh cool, and that is
the batcave. That were they? You know, yeah, because I
was asking the chick, but yeah, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
There was a guy. There was like a group of
I think ten of us, and I like, I don't
know if you've noticed, like when we went to the
James Taylor concert, I always like being behind everybody, just
kind of making sure everybody gets to where they need
to be. It's a it's a hurting thing, I don't know.
And so we were all going down the cave and
I was kind of like holding back and Gretchen was

(14:16):
kind of holding back waiting for me. And there was
this guy in the cane. Well he said, hey, it's
got a cane and they tell you if you got
walking issues or claustrophobic issues, which is not such a
big deal. You know, you may not want to do this,
but he wanted to be last because he knew he'd
be slowing everybody down. So I was constantly turning around
looking making sure he was making it. And then so

(14:38):
you go down to the cave. It's like a forty
five minute trick, you know, in and out you're like
sixty feet below the ground.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
At one point, did he get pretty cold?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
You know, not as cold as I remember. I mean
we took we took hoodies, but we really didn't need them.
I never put my mine on. And so we're coming
back and you go to really watch your footing where
you're stepping. So all of a sudden I heard a boom.
He was looking down where he's walking. But the ceiling

(15:10):
gets really low. Sometimes you can put a big old
knot on his head.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
He didn't hit a still lagmite.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
They don't have a still lagmites. It's all it's all
alabaster and gypsum, so they don't have the hanging, but
they do have water dripping through.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
But truly, I remember that. I remember. That's one thing
I do remember, is water dripping everywhere.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah. Way, Yeah, it's really wet and moldy, and there's
critters in there. And excuse me, I burned that fish
was good tonight. If you got to get the black
and chicken, it Callahans if you ever black and fish anyway.
Uh So, yeah, so we did that, and then we
stopped Joe through album on the way back and stopped
a little coffee shop thing and got some really cool

(15:49):
food and the next day we had to get it
and take her home. So yeah, she had a pretty
full week.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Oh, you know to put a new toilet in the
guest house and a new air condition.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Guess you did. So anybody needs to come use the
guest house. All the stuff in there's new.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, I mean that air conditioner probably won't get used
again until next year, seriously. And the toilet, yeah, but
that's okay. They needed to get replaced. They were getting old.
I forgot how old the guest house was. Anyway, back
on topping.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Okay, so this week we are talking unfortunately about another
lost big time actor from zu seventies. That would be uh,
I'm gonna talk a little bit about mister Robert Redford.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah. Could these guys, I mean, I hate to sound
crass or insensitive, but could these guys pass away on
like Monday?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Know, you know, just so we could be really fresh.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
And you know it's almost daily now though, we're like
losing somebody daily now. Yeah, and even and not only celebrities,
but like people around Enid. I'm like, I post the
obits on enid Buzz and it's like every day, I'm like,
I know him, I know her, I know him, I
know her. It's kind of scary, way scary. Little said, Yeah, so,

(17:15):
but what we're gonna do is chop out an area
of Robert Charles Robert Redford Junior's life from I'm actually
going nineteen sixty nine to nineteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
You got it. You gotta put sixty nine.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
In there, and for me, I had to put eighty
in there. Eighty Brubaker.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Oh okay, Oh, I forgot about that one we had
where he was like a warden.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, that was a great movie. I love that movie.
That's why I had to fill it in there, because
I'm sure they were filming it in seventy nine. They
had to have been.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, that's what it was. So yeah, and we watched
Butch Cassidy and Sant's Kid in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well, you know it was released in September of sixty nine.
Oh yeah, so it was in the theaters and then well,
while you brought it up, they re released it after
the sting.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Oh did so.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
It was released in theaters in the seventies. There you go, So,
there you go, no foul. But he did have some
decent movies before sixty.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Nine, Yeah, like the Wait No Barefoot in There the Park, And.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Then he had, you know, like Sneaker, you know after
nineteen eighty, had some decent movies like Sneakers. But I
promise you his awards, his claim to fame, his best
movies were all in the nineteen seventies. And why is that,
mister Wheeler.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well, because that was the greatest decade, knows man, Yes
it was, and really.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
It really I think his best movies were in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Well, I got a list what you got over there? Okay?
So I went to miss mojo website miss modo dot com.
They listed the top ten Robert Redford movies of all time,
of all time and and one, two, three, four, five,
six seven. They were all in the seventies, except for

(19:09):
Butch Cassi and Sanat's Kid, which we now know is
basically in the seventies. Yeah, why do I not have
number ten? Why did I start with number ten? Oh? No, anyway,
so number nine was the way we were. He played
a hubble Gardner in nineteen seventy three, nineteen seventy four
he played The Great Gatsby. He played Jake Gatsby. Number seven,

(19:29):
Three Days of the Condor, which is a really good movie.
He played Joseph Condor. Seventy two he did he was
in The Candidate. Another seventy two is Jeremiah Johnson, which
he was He did a lot of that was a
pretty gritty movie. They did a lot of stuff that

(19:50):
they didn't want him to do, and he did anyway.
Seventy six was All the President's Men. He played Bob Woodward,
which was a really good movie. Seventy three played Johnny Hunter,
and of course sixty nine he played Sundance Kid and
Butch Cassidan's and It's Kid. But that's Yeah. They and
I don't know if you've ever gotten a missmojo dot
com Nope, Yeah, they it's a pretty reputable website.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Well, I went to Rotten Tomatoes. Rotten to you say tomatoes,
I say tomato? What do you say, Gretchen Caramel? Okay,
so this is so they ranked his movies. Yeah, and
I'm only going to talk about the ones from the seventies,
but number two on the list at a ninety four percent.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
For rotten Tomatoes, all the President's Men, it was a
good one, seventy six, number four on the list, ninety
three percent approval, the Sting it was a good one,
number seven, eighty nine percent approval. Butch Cassidy and the
Dune Sundance Kid number nine, eighty seven percent approval, three
days of the Condor number fourteen at ninety one percent,

(20:56):
and they didn't rank they did. These aren't ranked by approval.
They were ranked by a whole bunch of different factors.
So some of the approvals are kind of switched. But
Jeremiah Johnson ninety one percent, Number fifteen at eighty nine percent,
was the candidate number seventeen at eighty two percent approval,

(21:17):
Hot Rocks, and then then it kind of goes down.
Number twenty three was sixty four percent at the way
we were, then the Great Waldo Pepper at sixty two
percent elected Horseman, and then kind of the rest of them.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
But yeah, we were talking about the Great Waldo Pepper
at the at the warehouse earlier today, and I'm surprised
it wasn't on this list. I just I don't really
I remember watching the movie, and I remember that one
part where he had to put the guy out of
his misery. Have you ever seen it?

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I don't think i've ever seen that one.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Oh yeah, there's a there's a scene where so he's
a World War he's he's a former World War One
UH fighting ace and you know, they flew by planes
and stuff. And he meets up with a German ace
pilot and they become friends and they're doing barnstorming and

(22:09):
his friend crashes and he he can't get out of
the plane and there's fire. You know, he's fixing to
be engulfed in flames. And Waldo's over there, you know,
trying to get him out. He can't get him out,
and he looks at me. He says, don't let me
burned up. Don't let me burn to death. So he
has to end him. And it was it was. It

(22:31):
was a little rough.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
I may if I watched part of it, I might
remember that I've seen it. I know I didn't like
go to the movie theater and see it, but I've
probably seen it.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I don't think i've seen the candidate. I'm not sure
that I've seen that one.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
I don't know that I want to me. I think
at the time it seemed like a very boring, yeah
sounding movie. So I don't think I've ever seen the
Candidate either.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I don't think I have. If I have it,
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
So what would what would?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
So?

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Just what do you what's your favorite.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Butch Casting Sentence Kid? Easily?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, so seventies Wise or.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
The Sting one of the two.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
I was gonna say, I probably seventies Wise. It's probably
uh and again we're throwing sixty nine over Butch, Cassidy
and Sundance. But my I think my favorite overall Robert
Redford movie is brew Baker. I love that movie.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, I forgot about though.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
That was a good movie. I mean I it was
kind of like The Walk, Like I just can't hardly
stand not being able to go see The Walk right now.
I remember when Brew Baker, when I saw the trailers
and heard all the you know what it was about.
I couldn't wait to go to the movie theater and
see brew Baker.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
In Butch Casting and Sinet's Kid, there's a scene, remember
the scene where he's what was Catherine Ross's Eda, his
girlfriend Eda, And we didn't know at the time that
that was his girlfriend, and she walks into her little
house and he's in there and he's sitting there and
he basically this is nineteen sixty nine. He's telling her

(24:13):
to that guy. He's got his gun out and he's like,
you know, take your clothes off. And I remember so
in nineteenth I probably saw it, and I was probably
less than ten years old when I saw it, and
I was like, well, baby, blah blah, and then all
of a sudden, she goes it's about dang time you
got here, or something like that, and then you realize, Oh,
their a boyfriend and girlfriend. You thought we thought, oh no,

(24:36):
but our Sundad's kids, you know, making this poor little
she's I think she's a school teacher just robe in
front of him, and no, this is a girlfriend. That
was That was like the earliest, my earliest memory of
a hot movie scene that kind of, you know, scarred me.
Oh in a good way. Yeah no, because she was hot.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Still isn't sure, Yeah so, butch Cassidy and the Snettes Kid.
In two thousand and three, the film was selected for
preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the
Library of Congress as being culturally, historically and esthetically significant.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
American Film Institute ranked Butch Cassidy and Snetce Kid as
the seventy third Greatest American film on its AFI's one
hundred Years one Hundred Movies tenth Anniversary Edition list and
number fifty on the original list. Butch Cassidy and Senet's
Kid were ranked twentieth greatest Heroes on AFI's one hundred

(25:41):
Years one hundred Heroes and Villains, and it was selected
by the American Film Institute as the seventh greatest Western
of all time.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Oh wow, Wow, that's saying a lot bang. Seventh of
all time. Wow. I always thought one of them two
guys should have got an Oscar for that, But you
know he he never won an Oscar for acting.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
For acting, yeah, nominated, but not didn't win.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, he won for directing. I think ordinary people. I
think when, yes, whenever that was?

Speaker 1 (26:15):
That was eighty actually, yeah was it? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Cliff Robertson actually won the Academy Award in nineteen sixty
nine for Charlie.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Charlie.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
You remember that movie.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
I kind of remember the name, but I don't know
if I ever saw it.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I can't remember the premise. I just remember.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
But I'm like, really, yeah, really, yeah, come on, A
little watch the movie anyway.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, The Sting nineteen seventy three film was a box
office smash in seventy three and early seventy four, grossing
one hundred and fifty six million in the United States
and Canada. As of August twenty eighteen, it was the
twentieth highest grossing film in the United States. It's adjusted
for ticket price inflation internationally, it grows to one hundred

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and one million for worldwide gross of two hundred and
fifty seven million.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
And that brings up a point. Now they're talking about
all these movies now that make all this money and
all this stuff. But you gotta remember ticket prices back when.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh yeah, or what.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Buck or something like that back in the day, or
wood mud back in a half, I think.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
And my guess is by in seventy three there might
have been like saying this, there might have been less theaters.
I don't know if there's more theaters now or less
theater I don't know. But yeah, so, yeah, making a
lot of money back then is way pretty pretty big deal.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah. Nowadays ticket prices are.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
A gazillion wait a lot.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, but we don't have a movie theater, so we
don't get a way about it.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
We don't know what movies are and eat it anymore. Uh. Now,
I don't know why I was sixty two years I
was today years old when I learned this. Actually I
learned it yesterday. It never dawned on me. You know,
he started the Sundance Film Festival in Utah, and I

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thought it was named after the place in Utah, Sundance.
Well yeah, but he named the place Sundance after his character,
and it just for some reason, it never clicked.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Oh no, yeah, he basically created a town.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah yeah, so in my mind I knew it was
named after the town and the area, but it never
dawned on me that he named it. Oh really yeah,
so but yeah, the Sundance Film Festival began in Salt
Lake City August of nineteen seventy eight as the Utah
US Film Festival in an effort to attract more filmmakers

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to Utah. So, after he did Jeremiah Johnson, he kind
of he'd grown up loving the outdoors, and then after
Jeremiah Johnson, I think he moved to that area and
he just loved the outdoors and wanted to bring so
he didn't have to go to Hollywood and stuff. He
wanted to bring movie stuff there.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, a lot of independent stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, pretty much, well not all, but yeah, a lot
of it. And that's so that's kind of on one
of my bucket lists is well, it wouldn't be as
fun now, but was to go to Sundance Film Festival,
which would be fun, but now that he's not going
to be there and still be pretty cool, though.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I hear it's hard to you know, it's like super
busy and hard to get tickets. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Well, and you can't like stay there because they're all
the hotels are booked and.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
They're super expensive.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, let's see. He started it using his salaries from
Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid and Downhill Racer. He
bought a ski area on the east side of Mount
Timba timba Ogos, located in the Wassatch Mountains northeast Utah,

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called temp Haven. He renamed it Sundance after his character.
His ex wife, Lola, was from Utah, and they built
a home in the area. In nineteen sixty three. Portions
of the movie Jeremiah Johnson were filmed up in that area.
Redford went on to create the Sundance Film Festival, which

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became the country's largest festival for individuent independent films. And
so anyway, Yeah, it's pretty cool. He's a huge supporter
of independent film.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, it's amazing what one guy can do. I mean,
I mean, I mean, it's a real town, right, I mean,
it's a they have like, you know, mayors and officials,
and I'm assuming they have a police department. I'm assuming
they have a fire department.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I don't know all that stuff. I don't know. I
don't know. That's why it'd be kind of fun to
go and be kind of like Burning Man.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I have no desire to go to Burning Man. I
just except there's an orgy tenth. Yeah, I mean you
don't get to go.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I don't get to go, but just to go to
because it's so hard to fathom that all these and
it's way off topic. All these people show up and
then they leave and the desert's as clean as when
they showed up. So just the experience of how do
they do that, what does it look like? What where
is the orgy tent in relations to everything? You know,

(31:30):
it's kind of like sundance, you know what. You kind
of want to go just to kind of and like Washington,
d C. You know, I see it on TV all
the time, but until you go, then you realize, oh,
all this stuff's in like a big long line.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
It's like it's hard to put things in context unless
you've been there.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, once you're there, you're like, oh, now you see
it on TV. Then all of a sudden you're like, oh,
I know where that is. I know where that is.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
So anyway, yeah, yeah, it's like when I see pictures
of the White House, like right behind it's just like
a normal street and like you know building, You would
think it'd be like it's right smack dab in the
middle of everything, isn't it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, it's uh.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Sixteen hundred pennsylvaniaisodes.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, there's stuff all around it. An a fence.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Now there's a fence.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
No, you can't now, you can't get close now. The
back of it though, the back of it does go
to the area that's the big long the Washington Monument
and then Lincoln Memorial down here, and the Capital's down there,
and so all that stuff's behind it. But oh was
it really Yeah, But it's like going this way, so
you can't see any all you can see is the
Washington Monument. But then it's got the gardens and stuff

(32:36):
in the back.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
So but in the front, yeah, it's all there's a
park and buildings and restaurants and you.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Know it wouldn't too turbo along ago. You just drive
up there.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, I mean there was.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
It's our house. You know, you just drove up, pulled
out front door. That was last say, not too long, turblong.
It's probably fifty years ago.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, everything's changed.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
People start get shot.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Let's see. Bornen August eighteenth, thirty six died September sixteenth,
twenty twenty five, he was not only an actor a director,
but also producer. He produced A River Runs Through It
and I Think directed that with Brad Pitt. He was

(33:23):
known as a leading man who gained stardom through the
American New Wave. Over a career spanning six decades, he
received numerous accolades, including an Academy Award, a British Academy
of Film Award, five Golden Globe Awards, including the Cecil B.
De Mille Award in nineteen ninety four. Where Edford also

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received various honors, including the Screen Actors Guild Life Achievement Award,
in ninety six, the Academy Honorary Award in two thousand
and two, the Kennedy Center Honors in two thousand and five,
the Presidential Medal of Freedom in twenty sixteen, and the
Honorary Saizaar in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I know you don't watch mcu stuff, but he was
a bad guy in the Marvel movies. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
I didn't even know he was in a Marvel movies. Well,
I saw his movie credit.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
At least two of them, I believe.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah he played he plays a bad guy. You don't
seem I don't know has he ever played a bad
guy in anything else? He's always like the you know,
he's always a good and damn he was good looking.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
He was a good looking especially in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, I had that hair.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
He was the dude in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm surprised there weren't more.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Somebody tell me you girls out there, were there any
Robert Redford posters in the seventies? Were there? But you,
Cassidy Paul were there? Paul Newman posters.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I distinctly remember when Butch Cashiing sent as a kid
came out my mom was in love with Paul Newman,
and he kind of looked like my dad. My dad
kind looked like him, I should say. And my sister
Marshall was in love with Robert Redford. Always thought that
so funny. My mom likes this. My mom's got the
hots for this guy. To hots for this guy, that's
a little weird.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, so you girls out there, let us know if
they're I. You know, when you would go to like
Woolco and look for posters, you'd flip through those things.
I don't ever really remember there being a Robert Redford poster,
but I wasn't really looking for.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
One, so well, I just well, look at here Robert
for posters.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Is there one hundred and forty nine dollars? What year
is it from?

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Is it say it's from Butchcasta Incident's kid?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, let me see.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Well, let's see. Click on it and that's on eBay,
Click on it, Click on it. My phone's being slow,
what come on phone? Vintage poster Butch Castid incidence kid?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Is it just oh h it's not a super glamorous photo.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah. It didn't say a whole lot about it, but
there there was some hmmm, well, and I would imagine
he had more than Paul Newman because yeah, you know
Robert Ruchard. But that was a vintage one nine dollars.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
But you can also get them for eighteen nine reprinted. Yeah, repops.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, that's the thing is sometimes you don't know, so
don't buy the real don't buy the expensive one because
it might not be real.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Uh, I should have got more. I kind of read
the whole behind the scenes of All the President's Men,
you know, if you guys don't know, if you if
you're younger and you haven't seen All the President's Men,
basically based on the real story of Bob Woodward and
Carl Bernstein who worked for the Washington Post and were told, asked,

(37:04):
told to look into this little break in that happened
at this hotel happened to be called the Watergate Hotel.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
And is that still there?

Speaker 1 (37:16):
I I hate, I don't know. I don't know if
it's still there or not.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Good question'd be cool.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
But yeah, talk about a huge scandal, and I mean it,
I got I didn't even know all though. And we've
done an episode on Watergate. We did, Yeah, yes, we.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Did, dude, I can't remember anything nowadays.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, but uh yeah, it was just all of the
layers of people involved in Watergate that paid this guy,
and the FBI and CIA paid this guy and this guy,
and I just it just it's mind boggling how much
stuff they uncovered. Oh and you know what I forgot
to look up is who they finally who finally was

(38:01):
a deep throat? I think I think several years ago
they finally oh yeah, divulged who the real deep throat was.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
And what a funny name to give yourself.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah back then, well that was because of who was
the real deep throat?

Speaker 2 (38:17):
When did Watergate come out? Or when did that? When
did the movie All the President? Oh, I got it
right here. Seventy six I read an article where Robert
Redford wanted to do the do a movie about it
while it was going on. Yeah, and that was seventy five.
I think when the Watergate scandal came out, wasn't it.

(38:37):
I think so, because you did a podcast about it.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I read that he was doing what other movie? He
was doing another movie at the time it was, and
he was watching Nixon being inaugurated wanting to do All
the President's Men.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah, I want to say it was I read the
same thing. I want to say it was one of
those not flashing it was. It wasn't like a fun movie.
It was like a romance or something.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah. W Mark Felt, the former deputy director of the FBI,
was the real deep throat. Felt provided crucial confidential information
to The Washington Post, Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein during
the Watergate scandal, which ultimately led to the resignation of
I Am Not several decades of speculation, Felt revealed his

(39:40):
identity in the infamous source in a two thousand and
five Venue d Fair article at the age of ninety one.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Oh wow, still alone, huh crazy? Yeah, so the Watergate
scandal spanned from seventy two to seventy four. I think
it was the way we were because originally he didn't
want to do the way we were the way we
were because he didn't like the character Hubble. And then they,
you know, they rewrote it and rewrote it and ruined it.
Finally did it. But I can't remember which one I want.

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It may have been that one. Yeah, did you ever
see the way we were?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Oh? Yeah, right, that kind of made Baba a star.
But it's because she worked with him.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
I think, yeah, yeah, she had such.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
A weird career.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
I mean he when he was before he signed on
to do it, he said, she's not going to sing,
is she? Because I don't want this to be a musical.
Although she does sing one song, which is you know
the Way We Were, which is you know, crazy popular,
and yeah, I want all kinds of stuff. But he's like,
this ain't gonna be a musical, is it. I don't

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want her singing in it.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah. I read a little bit about why and I
can't remember why. Rain drops keep falling? They didn't who
b J. Thomas, Yeah, they didn't want rain drops keep
falling on your head in But Kestenson, I don't know that.
I think he somebody was like, yeah, that doesn't fit.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
But it doesn't fit, but it's perfect.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
At the same time, I love that. It's one of
my favorite scenes in the whole movie where he's riding
the bicycle and you know, Paul Newman's threatening to steal
his girlfriend and he's like, yeah, you can have her.
That's a great movie. You gotta lie, oh something else.
So of course, now you can watch all these Robert
Redford movies. You gotta random or buy him now on streaming.

(41:28):
I guarantee you. A month ago there's a bunch of
free ones all over the place. But now they're like,
oh yeah, it's only nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Crap, that's just not right because I mean, if he
had gone to the video store to been at buck
ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
For like a VHS yeah and bad quality? Oh yeah, yeah,
it's true. Yeah. God, I don't miss those days at all.
Was that sucked? I'm glad we got through that stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Can you believe it? It's just hard to believe it
even existed. It was so brief, it really was. I
mean it seemed like it lasted forever.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And my wife and she worked, she put together the
first video start here in Enid. Was that at Keeling's
No Sight and Sound. Uh yeah, oh the owner you've
met the owner, Kip's friend from they did Summerfest anyway, Yeah, yeah, uh. Anyway,

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he's like, we're gonna take a section of the store
and you're gonna rent out videos. And she's like, what
are you talking about? And they were like, you had
to do all the stuff signed for him, and if
you didn't bring it back, they were like hundreds of
dollars after you for yeah, because they were expensive.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeah, you had to kind of sign your life way
to rent a video, yeah, way back in the beginning,
because they were afraid people wouldn't bring them back.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah. Yeah, well I think they pretty much always did.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah. Anyway, well, yeah, because you wanted to rent more,
he didn't want you didn't want to get your name,
like up there at the convenience store with the hot check.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Gosh, what was his name?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
I'm trying to think, yeah, on the tip of my tongue. Anyway, anyway, anyway,
there you go that h was not a big fan
of The Electric Horseman in seventy nine. Did that have
Jane Fonda in it?

Speaker 2 (43:25):
I think so?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Who was in that one?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, that was kind of silly.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Kind of an odd, yeah, odd movie.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
So I always get that in Ryanstone Cowboy.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Mixed up ron Stone Cowboy. Yeah. And I don't think
I've ever seen the Hot Rock.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
I've never heard of the Hot Rock.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, it's a dort Munder and his pals planned to
steal a huge diamond from a museum. But this turns
out to be only the first time they have to
steal it and then a little Foss and Big Hall
I've never seen from nineteen seventy. The friendship between two
Arizona dirt bike racers is tested when they both lust

(44:08):
for an attractive runaway young woman who joins them on
the racing circuit.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
H sounds kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Maybe I do want to see that one, and I
think the rest of them I've probably seen at one
time or another.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, pretty much, Honkey tom Man, that's not him anyway
far out. Well, there's all we know about Robert Redford.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
A little bit about Bobby Bobby rid that's one thing.
They didn't ever call him Bobby, I guess.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah, So what was his first name? What?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Charles?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Charles? And he's a junior.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah I didn't know that either.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, his mom died when he was eighteen.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yeah, bummer. And he was a real baseball player almost well,
I mean he went got he got a scholarship.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
He got a scholarship to Colorado University of.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, I'm drank too much.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Drank too much, so he said, screw it, I'm going
to Europe. So he went to Europe for a year
and a half and studied art. So, now, how did
he afford to do that because that was back when
he was pole because his family didn't have money.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know how some people do that.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I don't just do it. Yeah, yeah, I guess he
lived with a bunch of bohemians, he said, and just
you know, studied and you know, and then came back
and got famous, went on Broadway and did yeah, what's up?
One Broadway show they turned into a movie?

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Was it Barefoot in the Park?

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Barefoot in the Park? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah. Most of his
movies were fun. I like the ones that were fun,
but the serious ones were good too.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
The way we were is kind of sad because they
didn't end up together. But he dodged a bullet there.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, you guys, let us know your favorite seventy well,
both your favorite seventies Robert Redford movie and your favorite
overall Robert Redford movie. Yeah, because there was a lot
after yeah, after the eighties.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
The iconic ones were in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Oh yeah, by by far, not even close. So he
was the man. He was a man. How are we
doing on time?

Speaker 2 (46:15):
We anytime? Now?

Speaker 1 (46:16):
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Speaker 2 (46:43):
Oh, put a letter in a note in a bottle.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
We're not gonna get that anyway.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
You went to.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Okay, we're gonna get out of here.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Eight