October 7, 2025 • 56 mins
It is kind of amazing all the scary/creepy places we grew up with. Some turned out to be not so ,,,,
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey bussheads, Welcome to the Seventies Buzz Podcast. I'm Curtis Tucker.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And I'm Todd Wheeler, bringing you our memories or lack thereof,
of growing up in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh, bring somebody answer that phone out. Oh my gosh,
it it's been kind of night, it's been kind of
kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Long again, we are back with another episode of the
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
We got a ton of phone call yes and we
love it, We love it all. Where to go, let's go. Okay, Ah,
they've called, they've called, They've he's not the first caller
of the we but we like to start out with ab.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, they've likes to call, like right, he's got a
specific time like the day before.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah, uh.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
We had lots of comments about the rockstar Taylor Swift.
Well no, okay, So again, everybody has different definitions of
rock stars, and we wanted we asked you guys to
tell us who was on your list, right, which is fine,
That's what we got. And but just remember we were
(01:48):
trying to keep our list to twenty and that's why
some of the people that you guys gave did weren't
on our list, not because we didn't think they were rockstars.
We just were trying to limit it to twenty or
the episode would.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Have been on Fronie Van Sant. Yeah, obviously he was
a rock star. But yeah, but get it, cut it off.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But but we do question Taylor Swift being any form. Now.
I love Taylor Swift, sure, uh I thought of rock, wouldn't.
She's a pop popstar. I think she's a pop star.
I don't know that she's really a rock star.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah. Oh, something we didn't address over on Buzzhead Radio
was Kill the Freshman Dave talked about.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But wasn't that a seventies movie?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh it was, Yes, it was two years before Phantasm. Yeah,
that's right, that's why we didn't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, well, no, that was the That was the other
one that Jay somebody else told us about. But I
think Dave said Kill the Irishman was a seventies type movie.
It wasn't by the same guy that did Phantasm.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That was Kenny and Company.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Kenny and Company.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, yeah, I got so many notes here.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, get We'll get to that in a second. So,
but Dave said he put his jammis on, Dave, where's jammies? U?
And he was watching Taylor Swift on Carson or Jimmy
Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think that was an episode where she shows her
big ring.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Okay, I don't watch those shows, so, but I.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Just saw a clip or yeah, it's a huge freaking ring.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Which is cool. And again, I man to me, Taylor
Swift is one of the I mean, she's an entrepreneur,
she's a she's a Michael Jackson, she's a business person.
She's I give her kudos for everything she's got. She
deserves it all. A few other names that Dave through
out and a couple other people did, Rod Stewart, Angus Young,
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Ronnie van Zan. So so we that's what we wanted, though.
We wanted you guys to tell us what names that
we did not mention that would have been on your list.
So there's a couple from Dave.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yes, okay, nowhere we go, Steve from Santo from San Antonio?
Did we mention Ted Nugent?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Ted Nugent was my number, like twenty one. He was
on my sheet of paper. But I don't know if
I mentioned him. I think I might have mentioned him
at the very end.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And then he said, we didn't mention Alice Cooper, but
we did mention Alice Cooper. And he called back to
say that yeah. And by the way, he did hang
up both times this week.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Way to go, Steve, Way to go. Yeah. And so
if you listen to my rock Star episode on Zoinkies
with Christopher Todd, I tell Christopher Todd that because Christopher
Todd says Ted Nugent would have been on his top list,
and I said Ted Nugent was literally number twenty one
on my list, and I could have replaced meat Loaf
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or ritt Nielsen easily with Ted Nugent. I just went
the route I went.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, so it's tough.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
And I thought it was really cool. If you if
you haven't listened to that episode, Christopher Todd framed it
really quickly in he and I's imagination of what a
rock star is, sex drugs and rock and roll. There
you go, so now defined it really easy.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah. Now, if you'd have in that text last week,
if you just said sex drugs.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I wasn't even that hadn't even dawn on me. That's
what I was thinking. I was thinking, a dude that
lives up to sex, drugs and rock and that those
are the people on my list.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But it was a well rounded episode. Yeah, it was
getting it of itself. A couple of people like Jason Scott.
He mentions Sammy.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Hagar, which probably should have been on our list.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah, and I think we did mention him, but
we were in I think I was talking about him
in the well.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
When you're talking Van Halen and Hagary, you've got to
put the other two on ahead of Sammy, whether you
include him with Van Halen or not. He was the
Red Rocker, but again we were limited to twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Right, and and before that he was in Montros Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And then Joe Walsh, who was in a couple of
bands before he was in the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Eagles, So no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
And he said, Jason Scott is catching up on all
previous episodes. He says he's only got about.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Sixteen sixteen ago and he started in October of twenty
twenty four, which is very impressive to listen to four
hundred episodes.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
That's crazy. That would be kind of cool. That'd be
a lot, that would be a lot of seventies knowledge
in a short period of time.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, because I swear Jason, we have forgotten a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And you know what the funny thing is, on every
one of those episodes, we've probably said the same thing
about certain things. So many times. He probably knows us
better than we know us. Yeah, like Stayton, Yeah, you know,
Stateton's probably like yeah, but you guys have already said
that eighty seven times.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, there'll be times scurs like, yeah, we did an
episode about that. I'm like, we did, it's four hundred
and over four hundred episodes.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, that's a lot to keep track of, a lot to.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Keep track of.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Carl Carl from Chester slash Pennsylvania. He enjoyed the Gretchen episode,
and he's one of the people that, along with somebody
else who mentioned Rod Stewart, should have probably been Dave.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Dave mentioned Rod Stuart. He also said it might be
kind of a fun deal to call other people in
other states and talk to them about what it was
like growing up in their state in the seventies, which
might be kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Why have we not done that?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I don't know. I don't know why we don't have
more random people. I mean, I don't know. Maybe once
a month we have a guest, no matter what. We
just find somebody. That'd be somebody and it doesn't have
to be like somebody that's written a book or just
somebody random that lived through the seventies.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, not someone trying to promote something.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah yeah, just seventies lovers. Yeah. I was this so
just loved.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Anyway at Larry from Washington, Washington. He mentioned a movie
called Kenny and Company that you seem to remember. I
don't have any recollection.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Though I watched it on YouTube and I'm pretty sure.
I mentioned it on one of our episodes. I don't
know what episode it was, but it was probably like
at the beginning of the episode and I probably talked
about it for a minute and said, Hey, the kid
from Phantasms in this movie called Kennyan Company. But it's
from nineteen seventy six, and it's really it's a movie
(08:36):
low budget, but it's almost like watching an eight millimeter
of us growing up in the seventies. I mean, there's bananas, bikes,
there's the haunt, long hair, the clothes, the tennis shoes.
It just everything in the movie is nineteen seventy six,
and so it just puts you there. You know, the
quality of the movie and sound isn't, you know, super good,
(08:59):
But yeah, it's just it's like watching an eight millimeter
home movie kind of.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
If you can have a movie that's not super well written,
but if it's got good audio, because I don't know
what it is about audio. If it's not, if it's
not at least really pretty good, it's hard. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I've tried to watch some independent movies and one minute
in if the sound quality is bad, I'm done. I'm like,
I'm not. I can't put up.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
With that, and we can attest to how hard audio is.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It's ten million times harder than video.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes, yes, it's crazy and you wouldn't think it would be.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
But now, what's that what's that movie about the Old
Days in Hollywood with Brad Pitt?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Was that the one where they were they he was
making silent movies and then somebody they started adding sound
and they were doing that one.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You've lost me? Now, wasn't that the movie Brad Pitten
silence Movies?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, Brad Pitt was a silent movie actor.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You're talking about What's upon a Time in Hollywood?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
No, No, this is like a more recent movie. It
was like a big budget movie that kind of flopped. Anyway,
he was this silent film actor. And so through the
first half of the movie, they're filming silent movies. Well,
then somebody figures out how to add sound, and it's
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so funny because them trying to add sound to the
movie is so comical because it's so hard because nobody
was used to trying to be quiet on set, and
so they kept screwing it up, and finally this one
guy eventually dies in the sound room because it's not
air conditioned, and they have to keep doing this take
over and over so long. The guy finally dies.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I have no idea what movie you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Oh, I can't even think of the name of it,
Palladium or it's got a weird one name like that.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
We're gonna give phonecals.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'm just white torture ourself. What's Brad Pitt's movie where
he's a silent movie actor? Babylon twenty two.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Oh yeah, I didn't see that.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, but anyway, if you watch that movie, you laugh
because they had such a hard time trying to add
sound to a movie.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Oh, it just backs up what we're saying.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, exactly. It's like, yeah, it's super hard to get
the sound quality correct.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, I think we sound pretty good right now.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well, yeah, but we're not doing a movie or video.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You can only imagine doing a movie well when we
were doing like TV and stuff, because we did TV
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, but I go back and watch some of our
etowns and yeah, the sound quality is not super good.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
We tried, We.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Tried well, and but we were in a coffee shop
and we wanted.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We wanted we want a background.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, we wanted a background noise. So yeah, Gretchen called
oh old blockhead, blockhead.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
She said, I'm not gonna do blah blah blah blah blah.
And Gary Brady was a rock star. Gary Brady, I
mean Greg.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
She she Carlos Santana, David and Sean Cassidy. She also
mentioned Sammy Hagar.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But but she also mentioned Gary Brady, Gary.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Brady, what was his Johnny Bravo. Johnny Bravo was a
rock star. Greg Brady wasn't, But Johnny Bravo.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That's true, that's true. We'll give you that one.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
That's that must be what she was talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh, by the way, Gretchen, I'm sorry to let you know,
it's it's time.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The creamer must go.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The creamer's gotta go. You forgot to put the creamer
in the freezer. It's not gonna make it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And uh, it's in there with the caramel rappers.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, it's starting to get funky and stuff. So sorry, Gretchen.
Full see, he gone not gone yet, it'll be gone
soon soon. I gotta clean up my fridge.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Before we hop into the I guess that's all. I
didn't get any emails.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No email, and I think we've covered all the phone
calls Steve, Jason, Carl, Larry, Gretchen Dave, I think we
got everything covered. If not, well apologize.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, so before we hop into the theme of the
episode real quick, I did want to mention, even though
I'm not it wasn't ever a big fan, I think
it's pretty cool that Rush it's getting ready to tour.
I saw that Geddy and Alex have recruited a new
drummer and they are going to go out on the tour.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Forty two year old lady yep, yeah, and Anika Neil's Niles.
Not a lot of rock star rock lady, four year old.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No props to her good job. She's previously backed Jeff Beck.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh there.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
She's going to join them on a twelve date seventh
City fifty something tour, which kicks off June seventh in La.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah. So that just like we've said before, these these
these people that we used to love and watch and
listen to in the seventies, they're doing like final tourists.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Now. Well, now that's the problem, Dave. Dave. Dave's kind
of given me poo pooh for being a young blood fan.
But I'm tired of going to see bands that are
only half there or one or when we went to
see Foreigner there was none. There was literally not a
single original member Foreigner with him. So I think young Blood.
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He gives me that seventies rockstar vibe.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So anyway, yeah, I need to watch more of his stuff.
And so now is Aerosmith doing one more tour or
is that face see?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
No, I don't know now they are doing. They've done songs.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It's called like One Last Ride or something as the
name of the tour which I saw.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, I don't know if they're going to do I've
heard somebody was rumoring that a couple of the guys
from Aerosmith could end up popping into some of young
Bloods tour day like an Irving, like an Irving. That'd
be cool, cool, But so I don't know. I doubt
because he's got a whole new tour for twenty six
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already lined up. I doubt he's going to go on
tour with Aerosmith, and five of their songs are them together,
so I don't see how Aerosmith would go on tour
without him. So I doubt they're going on tour, But
you never know.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, well somebody knows.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Let us know, let us know if you guys have
heard anything. Okay, So what we figured out was we
only have four episodes before Halloween. Oh and one of
them's got to be a Facebook live and then the
other one is going to be our live from a
scary place. So we really only have two regular episodes
before Halloween. So this is this is our seventies homage
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to October. I guess kind of scary creepy places in Eno, Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, these are places that we.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Heard about went to. Uh yeah, what's that noise?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I don't know that. Did you hear something?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
No, if I'd have thought about it. You know, there's
that old creepy seventies album album. Yeah, it would have
been fun to play in the background. And I've got it.
I've actually got the album.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, but it's just three hours long. We don't have
to flip it over.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So if you hear something weird in the background, just
ignore it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, it's just it's an atmospheric music.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah. So I drove down West Broadway today and today
so any in Oklahoma it's been kind of like an
Indian summer. It's been eighties and hot. Well, today the
temperature dropped felt super cloudy, sixteen mile an hour north,
cool wind, rainy rain, so it felt like fall today.
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And so I went down Broadway and was cruising by
Stayton's old place and looked down the driveway and I thought,
you know, this is the exact time when we would
be in that garage making a building the Maze. And
so I think we built the may This is what
I'm thinking is we built the Maze in seventy six,
seventy seven, and seventy eight, So I think we did
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it three years in a row.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I probably only did the seventy eight vers.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, I just I thought that was
kind of I was like, Wow, it's cool being able
to drive down the street that you grew up on
every day and see those memories speaking of the street
that you YouTube grew up on.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
One of the uh, probably one of the classic scary places.
And I mentioned this earlier and I told you I
was going to ask you on air about this. So
one of the one of the famous scary places, and
he needed it's probably it got to be Gaslight.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Gaslight Theater was used to be part of the Alton Mercantile. Yeah,
and the Alton Mercantile. Was it started like in nineteen
oh two, I think, And let me look at my
notes here. I'm getting on anyway, So the thing was
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mister Alton had committed suicide.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, but just to clarify, he did not commit suicide
in the Gaslight Theater part of the building. It was
in the bigger Leonardo's part of the No. Actually, he
commit suicide at home, at home, that's right. He committed
suicide at home, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And I think his home was on Broadway. Oh yeah, yeah,
So I remember this is way before the internet. Going
to the library was it was it you and me
and Stateton went to the library going through all the
microfish and stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Probably when we were building the maze at gas Light
Theater probably yeah, yeah, I bet so.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And I remember going through it. I'm like, well, the
dude didn't even commit suicide.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
In the Yeah. Everybody so that they believe there's a
ghost in the old gas Light Theater on Maple.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Which used to be part of the Alton Mercantile, Yeah, or.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
A ghost in there as well. And and then people
had heard that mister Alton had hung himself, and so
a lot of people, as time has gone by, have
associated that he hung have thought he hung himself in
the building. Well he didn't, right, but that doesn't mean
that his spirit didn't migrate migrate back to the building.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It brings me to another don't let me forget this.
Oh go ahead, No, no, to finish, we need to
finish this. Well, Okay, I got another theory.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Okay. So, so when I was a kid, I grew
up in Gaslight theater. My mom helped paint set signs
in the sets, and and being a single parent, you know,
we had to pretty much go with her when she
went so and we liked hanging out at.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
The gas Light shun It was.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Fun because they had the They had this The seats
had a tunnel underneath them, so actors and people doing
things could get from one end of the theater to
the other without people seeing them. So we would spend
a lot of time in this tunnel under the seats
and in the back and everything. So we always thought
the building was pretty creepy anyway. And and one of
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our teachers at Enot High School, mister Clausing Claus. Before
we got to Enid High School, teacher, I knew him
as a guy that just hung out at gas Light Theater.
So one night, the way that the gas Light Theater
front doors worked was once you closed it and locked
it with the key, you couldn't open it from the inside.
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You had to have the key from the outside to
open the door. For some reason. Well, he got locked
in one night, and again this is before cell phones
and everything, so he had to use the phone inside
the office there to call somebody with a key to
come let him out. Well, in the meantime, while they
(21:26):
were coming to give him the key, he swears up
and down that he heard I can't remember what his
story was, if it was voices or just noises, but he,
mister Clausing, was a huge, huge man.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
You wouldn't think he'd.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Be what literature teacher at ended High so very serious,
you know. It just it isn't something that he would
make up. I mean, if there was some scary noise
or something, he heard it. So anyway, so that's that's
the Gaslight Now. I never experienced seeing or hearing anything,
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but usually the times we were there it was there
was tons of people around. And then as we got older,
what probably seventy nine eighty, because we had built the
maze and Stateton's garage. They were having a haunted house.
The youth were having a haunted house at gas Light Theater,
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and so we helped them kind of build a little maize,
kind of a mini maze in there, and we spent
a little bit of time. Oh I remember they were
playing the theme from Amityville Horror. Oh god, we must
have heard that thousand freaking times we used did sing that? All? Yeah,
(22:44):
get out? Oh my gosh. That's so. There's our there's
our little gas Light Theater story.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Okay. So now let's let's let's do the Grand Avenue
Hotel Okay, okay, which is now Garfield Furniture, which it's
been forever. And this is why, this is why I'm
doing this, Okay. So, I think a lot of people
know that allegedly John Wilkes Booth didn't die in the
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barn and wherever the heck that was back.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
East, I think he changed his name to David E.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
George George Okay, okay, So, and he committed suicide, tried
to commit suicide a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I think, down in Alrena, and they moved. And on
his deathbed in Alreno, he said that he was John
Wilkes booth.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yes, so you know that. Being said, there's another building
and I did not know this here in town, just
a couple of blocks away. So if Alton, mister Alton
could have hung himself on Broadway, which I'm pretty sure
it was on Broadway, we need to figure out which
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house out.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Was was we track it down.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, if he could have gone back to his mercantile.
There is a story about the Knox Building.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
The guy that died in the elevator.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yes, his name was George. It was George E.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
David No, I yes, but no, it was George.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
It was George. He was a they said he was.
The Knox Building constructed nineteen twenty four. It was a
six story building with an elevator, which I think at
the time was, you know, pretty cool. The top two
floors were a Masonic temple and they were closed abruptly
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in nineteen forty six for no apparent reason. So they
were closed from nineteen forty six to nineteen eighty one.
No one was allowed on the top two floors. Parts
of lights were seen from the floor. Enan symphony director
had an encounter with George, the elevator repair man, walking
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the halls. Now, how many haunted georgees can we have?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I don't know, but yeah, several lots of people have
experienced kind of ghost like things in the Knox I had.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I had never heard.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Oh really, no, you never heard about George? No? Oh
my gosh, where have you been living?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Pretty much where? I have heard all that all except
for seven years of my life i've lived here in
New Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
That's crazy talk, crazy talk.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So yeah, I'm sorry, it's getting.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Ramping up the scariness there. Uh now, now I've been
in the you know, we had one of our reunions
up there on one of the top two floors.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So let me ask you this. So where the symphony is?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Is that the top floor or the symphony?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I don't think it is.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I'm trying to think. No, I think the symphony is
the second to the top floor.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay, so what's on the top floor. I remember hearing
like there was a bowling alley after one time. Yeah,
I really did. I don't know if it was you
here's stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well, you know, I don't. I'm trying to think of
how all that works. You know, there's like the big Symphony,
which is it's almost like I think the symphony part
is like two I was gonna say, yeh, it's like
it's open two floors, and then there's the mezzanine thing
and then there's like a small there's like several big
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ballroom type rooms up there, which are on the highest floor.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, so I don't but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, I think i'd have to go up there and
anyway somehow it takes up the top two floors. But
I've never experienced. And so this isn't all just about
ghost It's just about creepy, scary, weird places in Enid.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So like when I was a kid, I mean, you
didn't hang out in my neighborhood. So there was a
house two blocks over on Elm and then halfway down
it was always vacant. See it became ant house.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
That's what I was going to ask, you did you
have because I just watched the episode of Leave It
to Beaver, exact same thing. There's a house in the
neighborhood that sat empty for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It's on it, It's on it, and so on West Broadway.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I was trying to think, I don't remember us ever
having a haunted an empty house that sat for now,
the mansion, the Knox Mansion sat, but that was really eighties.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
What about the house directly west of Staaten's house. It
was very dark, never saw any right across the street
from Peers.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
You never saw, but it wasn't empty. There was a dude,
but you never saw. You never saw him.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
But I always thought, and this is and this is.
You know, we were much older and not prone to
be scared, but I was like, that's a creepy ass house.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
It could be if you thought it was haunted, but
I don't know. For some reason, we never thought of
it as being haunted.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I never thought it was being haunted. But I always
thought it was creepy because they had these weird uh
window shades things. They were like louvered, old old fashioned. Yeah,
they were very dirty and it was a very dirty
dark it's not now.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, I'm trying to think if we ever in our
lives saw like this day, like somebody that mowed the
lawn or I don't remember anybody mowing the lawn or no,
but it was always decently kept.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, no, it was yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, So any anytime you get a house in your
neighborhood that's empty for and when you're a kid four
or five years is an eternity.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Well yeah, and yeah instantly becomes well the movie Halloween,
I mean, you know, any empty house the kids start
throwing rocks through the windows and so but I just
don't remember one from our neighborhood, and I try. I
racked my brain and I actually drove around, you know,
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when I was coming to Callahan's. I drove through there
and I was like trying to remember, was there any house,
even on Maine or Cherokee, But I just don't remember.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
No, just that one.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I don't remember one. So out Phillips University east of
town had this Phillips University, there was a girl's dorm
called Clay Hall. There's urban legends of it being haunted,
and so once Phillips closed down, it sat empty for
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a while. And then Northern Oklahoma College bought a a
lot of the about the property, but they didn't use
Clay Hall. So Clay Hall sat empty for probably a
decade or more.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, it was. It was condemned by the state in
nineteen eighty in the early eighties.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Okay, so it's that empty, so it got it got
kind of creepy, and I think people broke into it,
oh sure, and had ghost stories of and I think
we were. I think at one time I was wanting
to break into it, but at that point I think
they had boarded it up pretty good where you couldn't
slip in there as easy as you used to. But
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kind of a weird story to go along with that
is in the I don't know, probably seventy seven seventy eight,
my sister started hanging around with Mitch Sandford and that
is really fun. Yeah, you're going to know here in
a second, I'm going to tell you.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And if you can remember Tony.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
No other guy. There was two guys. Mitch was a
black kid and the other guy was a white kid.
And they would come over to our house.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Did Mitch play the piano?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
No, okay, his name's gonna Keith Tippet, So Keith Tippett.
Keith Tippett and Mitch Sandford used to come over. And
one day they came over to our house and Connie
wasn't home, and I was going somewhere, and they said, well,
can we wait on Connie? And I said, well, you know,
I probably shouldn't leave you alone. In our house, but okay,
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and I did, and like a week later, my mom
just exploded and was crying because somebody had gotten into
her jewelry box and had stolen just a small amount
of money, but it was like sentimental money that somebody
had given her and she was keeping it not because
it was money, but because it was sentimental, and somebody
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took it. And so I had to admit that I
had let Mitch and Keith hang out in the house,
and I assumed one of those two DoLS. So so
Mitch was always in trouble. So then what happened. I
guess he was having a lot more trouble, trouble in school,
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and I guess had been taken some drugs. Anyway, he
hung himself as behind Clay Hall in nineteen seventy nine
and so, and I didn't know all the details until
I was doing this show. They found a chair, the
chair that he stood up on, he wrapped, he nailed
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his belt to the tree limb and hung himself with
his belt. But a lot of people tried to say
that he was hung by the clan. Well, the police investigated,
and again he was on drugs, supposedly, not a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Of plan around here.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, and he and his teachers and classmates said that
he was having a lot of problems. Depression I think
was one of them. So anyway, So anyway, that kind
of lay leads to the or the lore of Clay Hall.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I didn't realize it was just at Clay Hall.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah. It was a tree that the old tree that's
behind it still there. I think the tree is still there.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, So anyway, kind of creepy there, see if you
had not Yeah. So anyway, so now they've turned Clay
Hall into a retirement like a retirement home for people
under a certain amount of income or something, so it's
not a dorm, even though the college is still open.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah. And apparently there are recordings audio recordings of voices
and piano playing and someone at Clay Hall. Yeah really yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah. I didn't have time to find those recordings or
I mean that if there are on the internet, but
apparently there are.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Well. Probably the scariest place for us, no, I know
where you're going now in the seventies was.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
The Insane Asylum.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Gosh. I remember so many people talking about the Insane Asylum.
We were like, oh wow, Now we never went out
We never went in the Insane Asylum at night, did
we We didn't.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Know, but we made we made it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So so what we did was so we don't we
think this building there was this old wooden building outside
of town was a poor folks and I think it
was back in the day, and then it got abandoned
and it was literally fought, literally falling apart, like roof
had caved in and.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Not like the Simpsons.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, no, this this was like on its last leg.
And so somebody, you know, kids, called it the Insane
Asylum because I think there was an asylum maybe out
in that area at one time, but it wasn't that building.
But anyway, so we called it the Insane Asylum. We
formed a club called the Elmo Club, which everybody that
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was an original member was already a member, so we
didn't have to be initiated, but the people that wanted
to be, which always fascinated additional members. We decided to
make an initiation and Ron Carpenter was our first victim.
So we went out to the Insane Asylum during the day,
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which was even scary. I was because so in the
seventies it wasn't always a fear of ghosts. It was
like a fear of druggies.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, druggies or not homeless, we would vagrants or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, just running into somebody you didn't know that might
want to accost you for some reason. So we we
went out there during the day one day and hid
I remember what we hit. I don't either, but I
remember once we set it down in the basement, we
ran like to get out there started to I remember that.
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So so then that night we drove Ron Carpenter out there.
We made him go in there at night by himself
and get that thing out of the basement to become
a member of the Almo Club. And Everybody's like, what
the hell. And I know we've we've talked about the
Elmo Club, I'm sure. So anyway, that was our weird
little club.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
But it just ams me. Anybody wanted to be in
our club.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Well, if there was anybody that wanted to be in
our club, it was Ron Carpenter. He wanted to be
in our club so bad that he had his own
Elmo Club T shirt, the only one in the whole
club got a T shirt. And he got his picture
freaking taken in the yearbook with our club on it.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
We made the Cindy's they they didn't have to go in,
you know. I think we made them like they had.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
To go to winch Oil and buy donuts with pennies
or something. Pretty goofy. It was.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
It was Cindy Clintworth and Cindy Tate. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, so but anyway, the Insane Asylum was definitely like
the scary place that.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Was probably heading me of scary around.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
And it was out by the old dump, so that
made it even creepier because you're out by the smelly dump.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah. Yeah, and it's it's gone down. Apparently it burned down.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, somebody burned some I'm I'm assuming somebody burned it down.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, and then they cleared it and now it's the
gun range for the police department. Yeah, so you can
you can go out and you can actually see where
the foundation was.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
But it went out there.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, I wondered. I wanted to find it, and we
did go out and find it.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah. It's weird because it didn't seem as far away
as it was.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah. It's literally not even out of town. It's in intown.
It's like, oh I thought that was a long ways away.
H Well, let's talk about Imo Cemetery real quick. Yeah,
I've never been out there and seen the headstone.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
So glowing headstone.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Growing up, we've been told that there was a glowing
headstone at the Imo Cemetery, but as you get closer
to it, it stops glowing. There are reports of claw
marks on the headstone and voices coming from an old
Indian burial ground at the rear of the cemetery. I
I and somebody drove out there a couple of years
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ago because I was curious about it, and it's it's
literally just not much. I mean, there's almost not much
cemetery there.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of little cemeteries that
are just yeah, they around, and they don't they don't
got gates, so you could just go in intown and yeah,
one guarding room or nothing like.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
That, right, and this is just right off the road.
But I think I went out there during daylight, so
I don't I was trying to figure out where the
glow would come from. I do think there's a large
white tombstone out there, which you know, maybe during certain
moonlight or something like, we'll have to we may well
that may that could be one of our locations for
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in two weeks. But anyway, there's that, there's the Enid Cemetery,
Our Enid Cemetery, the Old Enid Cemetery is one of
those with the big headstone, so there's like headstones all over,
and then there's a mausoleum in the middle.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
They're building a new one. Did you see that?
Speaker 1 (39:36):
That's what I was. That's what I wanted to show
you and Gretchen. Oh, yeah, it's just like, what the
heck is that thing? Is that? What it is?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
It looks like it's small.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
To me, it looked like a one person mausoleum. Yeah,
I mean like glitter and white. And yeah, when I
saw it, it was like something from Barbie or something.
I was like, what the heck is that? But I
don't know if they were just still working on it.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, I was. I was working at a Kip's house
last week and we were like, hey, let's run into
Callahans because there having the German food and all they
had was brought burgers because it was Thursday, not Friday anyway,
so we know, coming from his house you go down
that road and I was like and we were all like,
all three of us were like what the heck is that?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
See, that's what I said. So I took Gretchen, but
Gretchen was on the phone and not paying attention. So
I don't know if Gretchen even remembers that her and
I drove over there. So I parked and looked at it,
and I couldn't really figure out what the heck was
going on. I should have taken a picture, I don't know.
I didn't take a picture of it. But and then
spider tunnel.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Spider tunnels creepy.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
So spider tunnel was creepy because the same thing, is
there going to be a druggy down there? Is there
going to be a vagrant hiding in the tunnel once
we get and then once you're down there, you know,
if somebody snags you, you're gone, You're gone.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
It's kind of like it exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
And that was before it was it.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, and I'm not going down there because I had
a bend over and awkward position.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
And well but as a kid, oh sure, it wasn't.
It wasn't magnificent cobra, so that.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
That wasn't creepy. That was like, you just don't go there.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Well, but it was creepy. It was. It was the
bar on I guess you'd call the black side of town,
where everybody knew somebody that knew somebody that knew somebody
that had been stabbed here. And so it was like
the aura of this magnificent cobra. Don't go near there,
you'll get stabbed.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, And it was a couple of years ago. I
was driving through there working on a house and I
took a picture of it and I'm like, that is
so unassuming.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Well, it's because it had the magnificent cobra logo on
the side of the building.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
It's a creepy It's a tiny block building. Now it's tiny.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
It's like just a block building.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
It's like the size of a maybe a two car
garage maybe.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
And I bet had you gone in there, there'd have
been five dudes from the Vietnam War, all drink a
beer and would have talked to you for hours.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, yeah, probably. Yeah, it's funny how the imagination goes.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, bird sanctuary, so growing up, we why is that creepy? Well,
because again it's a bird sanctuary.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
It's sanctuary, and it's.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Well, so on the north side of the bird sanctuary
is boggy Creek and that's where we would go, yeah,
to find tadpoles and stuff. Well, the Bird Sanctuary back
in the seventies was a place the high schoolers went
to smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
And dope dope smokers.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
So again, you were afraid you might run into a
dope smokers, high school guys that were going to beat
you up or something.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Because they're dope smoker.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Because they were dope smokers. What does he say in
uh dayson Confused? He walks by and one guy says,
it's somebody smoking dope. You got a problem with that anyway? No,
so it wasn't It wasn't creepy or scary as far
as like ghost. It was just you just didn't want
to get caught and surrounded by a bunch of high
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school dudes when you're like this a little sixth grader.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. You don't want
to be anywhere like that at all. Ever. Yeah, what
about the Kiszner.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Edition Kissner Edition, which was Enid's first cemetery.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Ineni's first cemetery. They and it's hard, it's hard to
imagine now because it's on basically the corner of Wabash
and van Buren went Highway eighty one, which is very much,
very busy, very pretty much in the heart of heart
of Enid. But at the time that was like apparently
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on the edge of town, and so they buried much
people there because it was it was the first cemetery. Yeah,
in like the well we're on a T shirt the
late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, because people were dying.
That's the way they buried the first first person that
died and needed and they just started burying other people there,
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and I guess.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I think they realized that's a good spot for real estate.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, so fast forward. I don't know when did they
developed that. Probably in the well we know the Champlain
Mansion was built in, which is around the corner. So
it couldn't have been a cemetery for very long.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I don't Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Think, maybe two decades at the most. So I don't
know how many people could be buried there.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
But the well they dug, they thought they'd dug them
all up and moved them, but they missed a few.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Well apparently from what I researched, it was up to
the relatives.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
To pay oh that's right for remove, which.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
To me, doesn't sound right. It's like, if you want
to develop this, then you moved my ancestor, you moved
my granddad. But apparently some of them didn't get moved
for one reason or another. And there are a lot
of basements in that area. Not a lot of basements
in edit, but in that area there are a lot
of basements. So, and I'm not sure on which side
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of because the west side of eighty one is a
little bit different than the east side of Anger.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
And I've always thought it would be kind of around
Brenton Marcy's house, which is which is the big white
one where the road splits, the big huge.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
The old Singer mansion.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I think we've had that discussion before. I don't think
it was Singer, it was that it was Kisser. The
Kisseners lived there originally.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Oh oh oh, so you were thinking the same thing,
not not yeah yeah with the spiky yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
And that's what makes it creepy, is that spiky fence.
It's almost like an Adam's family fence around it.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
It is. And that's the one that Johnny oh yeah,
Keith uh poke his brain and uh that's creepy. Yeah,
And that that is yeah, that's a fact. I know
that because him and my sister were best friends back
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in the day.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, what about the pawnshops on West Maine.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I love the pawn shop.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Well, I liked him, but they were a little creepy.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
All those old buildings were could be they creaked and.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah, I mean, and we were supposed to be in them.
So we were in there without our parents knowledge.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
How come we watched was men? Nobody ever told me
not to be in them.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Well, my mom never knew I was even downtown, So
I'm sure i'd got in trouble just for being that
far away from home, let alone going into him. Yeah
my mom would. Yeah, I don't think she'd have wanted
me in a pawn shops.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
No, really, that's where you buy your throwing stars.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I don't think my mom would have wanted to buy
throwing stars. But I'm talking like seventh, sixth, seventh grade.
I mean I'm talking. Oh no, I was pretty pretty young.
I was.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I was going down there seventh eighth grade.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, I mean, you know, once we got a little older,
not that big a deal, but as I just remember,
like sometimes riding our bikes to see Disney movies, atesqu
and then going over and looking at comics at the
pawn shop and just being creepy because there'd be this
old one, old dude in there and a bunch of
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creepy things in there, and you'd always head for the
comic aisle and grab comics as quick as you could
and get out of there.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
I never bought comics at those places. I always went That's.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Where I got I think I got almost all of
my comics.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
And they all had a smell.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking that they were lighting was dingy. Yeah,
the shelves were packed with crap, the floors creaked, and
they were smelly because they were those old buildings that
were on their last leg. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, they were pushing one hundred years old back then.
Back then, which you know parts of the country your
buildings were only one hundred year old, you know. Yeah,
you go back east there are four or five hundred
years old.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
But anyway, yeah, yeah, but they were made out of
stone and stars were all wood.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
But anyway, those would be creepy, you know, equally creepy.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah. Uh now, and I don't think I knew about
this in the seventies, but Black Bear church, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Which you and I and Natalie and went a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, we we went and hung out there. So there's
a cemetery there, and across the street is they burned
out church.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
There's like nothing left of that church, not well.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Just but you can kind of go down into the
basement area and it's supposed to be haunted. There's a
lot of graffiti and they say don't go there because
the sheriff'll arrest you. We went anyway, but and then
black Bear Creek runs alongside, and I think that I
don't think it's actually black Bear Church. I think I
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think it's just named that.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Because of the creep Oh.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
But yeah, so I don't but I think it was
creepy back in the seventies. It was just so far
out of town.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
We a little bit outown, real far.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
We didn't go out there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
I had never heard of it until you and I
and Natalie went out there.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know that i'd heard about it
in the city, but I think it was there. I
think it was creepy.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Did you post any of that video?
Speaker 1 (49:29):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
I know you took video, but I didn't go live No,
I don't don't know if live was a thing, but
I don't.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to think of.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Even dude, that's that's somewhere on one of your phones.
You took a bunch of video, because why else would
we go out there?
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Where would I wonder where that would be? It was it? Yeah,
I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
That's when we were doing like early buzzhead radios.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I know, I mean if we had natally with us,
I was filming stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
I'll have to go through my October of every year
and see if I can find it.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Oh no, if I've got it on, I had to
have saved it. It's got to be there somewhere. I
don't know. It's it's funny that you say that that
I don't know where you got to got to be.
We'll find that anyway. And then my last one on
my list is so back in the day, we had
the Enid State School, which was a home for mentally
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how do how do we say that challenged? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (50:45):
And when you went, when you drove in there, there
was a big building they called the White House building
because it was the white It looked like the White
House had big columns, and everybody that kind of worked
there had thought it was hand things would happen there.
And then and then there was a the cemetery yep,
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it was called the State School cemetery is behind it,
and you and I and we went to that cemetery
after we went to black Bear Church.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, and so we've gone to black Bear Church, the cemetery,
we've gone, the gas light we've yeah, we just can't find.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
So, speaking of gaslight, they moved Gaslight to the old
Chief Movie Theater and it supposedly was a haunted building,
and so they had a deal where they let people
come in and hang out one night, and you and
I went.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
And we hung out there for a couple of hours.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Videoed and creeped around, and we went everywhere.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
We went everywhere in that building.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
We've never gone any Have I told you? That ghost
Hunters as their own channel on Roku TV. So it's
twenty four to seven ghost Hunter. So if I'm bored
or I don't want to search for something to w
I'll just flip it on either leave it to Beaver
or ghost Hunter.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
I do Storage Wars.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
It was yeah, exactly, So I just flip it on
and Brandy ghost hunter. So every episode something happens, there's
a voice or no, we've never have have we ever
encountered anything. It's a weird line.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
We never encountered, squad, and we want, we want something
to happen. Although we didn't get the full fledged Wiji board.
You made me leave it in the bathroom. You made
me leave it in the bat I'm the boards right down.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
I am perfectly fine with the Ouigi board. It's our
listeners that are not fine with the Wigi board. Maybe Dave.
Dave won't even listen to the episode. If we say
there's gonna be a Wigi board in it.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
We just won't tell Dave.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
There's okay, don't tell Dave.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Okay, it's right down, it's right down there in the den.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
You should set it up and put the thing on
a letter and just leave it alone and let's see
if no, it doesn't work that way. But how do
you know?
Speaker 2 (53:06):
I will, Okay, I will.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
It may not be the Ouiji board. It may be
your dad's ghost in that way.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Oh you know why, my dad's he hasn't been here
in a long time.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
But that's what I'm saying. Maybe he is, and.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
That's why we put it in the bathroom because that's
where the air personal bottle of his moved. No, no, No,
there's been I mean there have been multiple people die
in this house. I know Dad died here and his
he had a friend, Jim. He had he had an
old friend who was I think it was either a
friend that he knew from like VFW or American Legion
(53:39):
or whatever. And he didn't have any family, and he
didn't have any place to live. And Dad's like, you know,
comes to hear and that. You know, how many people
have lived in the guest house, but they are Jim
I think his name is Jim. He stayed mild bedroom
and he passed away from there.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
We've had three people die in our house. Yeah, I
don't know if it was four. I don't know if
w W died in our house or in a nursing home.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
That's where you want to die.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Lillian died in the house, Betty died in the house,
and Jim died in the house.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
That's that's where you want to go. That make him
hant it, though, But but I did smell Dad for
a long time if you guys don't know that, go
back and listen to the some of the early episodes,
and we talked about my you know what old.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
People smell like?
Speaker 2 (54:25):
They smell.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
It's that old people smell.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, and they do they do.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Oh yeah, it's and I want to know what it
is so I can avoid it when I get old.
I don't want to. I don't want to have the
old people's.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
It's just because they can't take a shower every day.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Oh I'll take a shower every day.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
At some point, unless you fall over dead on the trail,
which you probably will. Uh, you won't have a choice.
You know, you can do sponge basses and all that stuff,
and you know, I'll.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Just live in a house with the pool and I'll
swim every day.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Actually, I think, if I remember, your showers are ADA compliant.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
I think, yeah, I think that's why they redid the
house so everything would.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
Be yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, so I'll wheel
you in there and hose you off.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
Yeah, okay, got any more on your list over there?
Speaker 4 (55:14):
Let me double check make sure them is a save
the Sylum gas Light Stage, School, Glowing Headstone, Grand Avenue,
Kissner Knox Building, Clay Hall.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Nope, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah, Okay, will you guys let us know, like, if
you guys had a neighborhood house or a building or
something in your city in the seventies that you remember
being really creepy or scary, let us know at five
eight zero five four one three eight oh five or
buzzabuzzedmedia dot com. And so next week will be Facebook
(55:48):
Live regular regular, and then the next week we'll do
another Halloween scary themed episode. And then the next Tuesday,
which will be the Tuesday before Halloween, we'll try to
go live somewhat somewhere. Oh and if you're listening to
this and you live in Enid and you have an
idea or a building lease, contact as please please, yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
You should probably put that on Facebook again.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah yeah, okay, Okay, I think we're gonna get out
of here.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
We got a ton of phone call yes and we
love it, We love it all. Where to go, let's go. Okay, Ah,
they've called, they've called, They've he's not the first caller
of the we but we like to start out with ab.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, they've likes to call, like right, he's got a
specific time like the day before.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah, uh.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
We had lots of comments about the rockstar Taylor Swift.
Well no, okay, So again, everybody has different definitions of
rock stars, and we wanted we asked you guys to
tell us who was on your list, right, which is fine,
That's what we got. And but just remember we were
(01:48):
trying to keep our list to twenty and that's why
some of the people that you guys gave did weren't
on our list, not because we didn't think they were rockstars.
We just were trying to limit it to twenty or
the episode would.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Have been on Fronie Van Sant. Yeah, obviously he was
a rock star. But yeah, but get it, cut it off.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But but we do question Taylor Swift being any form. Now.
I love Taylor Swift, sure, uh I thought of rock, wouldn't.
She's a pop popstar. I think she's a pop star.
I don't know that she's really a rock star.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah. Oh, something we didn't address over on Buzzhead Radio
was Kill the Freshman Dave talked about.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But wasn't that a seventies movie?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh it was, Yes, it was two years before Phantasm. Yeah,
that's right, that's why we didn't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, well, no, that was the That was the other
one that Jay somebody else told us about. But I
think Dave said Kill the Irishman was a seventies type movie.
It wasn't by the same guy that did Phantasm.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That was Kenny and Company.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Kenny and Company.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, yeah, I got so many notes here.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, get We'll get to that in a second. So,
but Dave said he put his jammis on, Dave, where's jammies? U?
And he was watching Taylor Swift on Carson or Jimmy
Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think that was an episode where she shows her
big ring.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Okay, I don't watch those shows, so, but I.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Just saw a clip or yeah, it's a huge freaking ring.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Which is cool. And again, I man to me, Taylor
Swift is one of the I mean, she's an entrepreneur,
she's a she's a Michael Jackson, she's a business person.
She's I give her kudos for everything she's got. She
deserves it all. A few other names that Dave through
out and a couple other people did, Rod Stewart, Angus Young,
(03:45):
Ronnie van Zan. So so we that's what we wanted, though.
We wanted you guys to tell us what names that
we did not mention that would have been on your list.
So there's a couple from Dave.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yes, okay, nowhere we go, Steve from Santo from San Antonio?
Did we mention Ted Nugent?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Ted Nugent was my number, like twenty one. He was
on my sheet of paper. But I don't know if
I mentioned him. I think I might have mentioned him
at the very end.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And then he said, we didn't mention Alice Cooper, but
we did mention Alice Cooper. And he called back to
say that yeah. And by the way, he did hang
up both times this week.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Way to go, Steve, Way to go. Yeah. And so
if you listen to my rock Star episode on Zoinkies
with Christopher Todd, I tell Christopher Todd that because Christopher
Todd says Ted Nugent would have been on his top list,
and I said Ted Nugent was literally number twenty one
on my list, and I could have replaced meat Loaf
(04:53):
or ritt Nielsen easily with Ted Nugent. I just went
the route I went.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, so it's tough.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
And I thought it was really cool. If you if
you haven't listened to that episode, Christopher Todd framed it
really quickly in he and I's imagination of what a
rock star is, sex drugs and rock and roll. There
you go, so now defined it really easy.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah. Now, if you'd have in that text last week,
if you just said sex drugs.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I wasn't even that hadn't even dawn on me. That's
what I was thinking. I was thinking, a dude that
lives up to sex, drugs and rock and that those
are the people on my list.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But it was a well rounded episode. Yeah, it was
getting it of itself. A couple of people like Jason Scott.
He mentions Sammy.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Hagar, which probably should have been on our list.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah, and I think we did mention him, but
we were in I think I was talking about him
in the well.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
When you're talking Van Halen and Hagary, you've got to
put the other two on ahead of Sammy, whether you
include him with Van Halen or not. He was the
Red Rocker, but again we were limited to twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Right, and and before that he was in Montros Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And then Joe Walsh, who was in a couple of
bands before he was in the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Eagles, So no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
And he said, Jason Scott is catching up on all
previous episodes. He says he's only got about.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Sixteen sixteen ago and he started in October of twenty
twenty four, which is very impressive to listen to four
hundred episodes.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
That's crazy. That would be kind of cool. That'd be
a lot, that would be a lot of seventies knowledge
in a short period of time.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, because I swear Jason, we have forgotten a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And you know what the funny thing is, on every
one of those episodes, we've probably said the same thing
about certain things. So many times. He probably knows us
better than we know us. Yeah, like Stayton, Yeah, you know,
Stateton's probably like yeah, but you guys have already said
that eighty seven times.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, there'll be times scurs like, yeah, we did an
episode about that. I'm like, we did, it's four hundred
and over four hundred episodes.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, that's a lot to keep track of, a lot to.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Keep track of.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Carl Carl from Chester slash Pennsylvania. He enjoyed the Gretchen episode,
and he's one of the people that, along with somebody
else who mentioned Rod Stewart, should have probably been Dave.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Dave mentioned Rod Stuart. He also said it might be
kind of a fun deal to call other people in
other states and talk to them about what it was
like growing up in their state in the seventies, which
might be kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Why have we not done that?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I don't know. I don't know why we don't have
more random people. I mean, I don't know. Maybe once
a month we have a guest, no matter what. We
just find somebody. That'd be somebody and it doesn't have
to be like somebody that's written a book or just
somebody random that lived through the seventies.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, not someone trying to promote something.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah yeah, just seventies lovers. Yeah. I was this so
just loved.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Anyway at Larry from Washington, Washington. He mentioned a movie
called Kenny and Company that you seem to remember. I
don't have any recollection.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Though I watched it on YouTube and I'm pretty sure.
I mentioned it on one of our episodes. I don't
know what episode it was, but it was probably like
at the beginning of the episode and I probably talked
about it for a minute and said, Hey, the kid
from Phantasms in this movie called Kennyan Company. But it's
from nineteen seventy six, and it's really it's a movie
(08:36):
low budget, but it's almost like watching an eight millimeter
of us growing up in the seventies. I mean, there's bananas, bikes,
there's the haunt, long hair, the clothes, the tennis shoes.
It just everything in the movie is nineteen seventy six,
and so it just puts you there. You know, the
quality of the movie and sound isn't, you know, super good,
(08:59):
But yeah, it's just it's like watching an eight millimeter
home movie kind of.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
If you can have a movie that's not super well written,
but if it's got good audio, because I don't know
what it is about audio. If it's not, if it's
not at least really pretty good, it's hard. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I've tried to watch some independent movies and one minute
in if the sound quality is bad, I'm done. I'm like,
I'm not. I can't put up.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
With that, and we can attest to how hard audio is.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It's ten million times harder than video.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes, yes, it's crazy and you wouldn't think it would be.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
But now, what's that what's that movie about the Old
Days in Hollywood with Brad Pitt?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Was that the one where they were they he was
making silent movies and then somebody they started adding sound
and they were doing that one.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You've lost me? Now, wasn't that the movie Brad Pitten
silence Movies?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, Brad Pitt was a silent movie actor.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You're talking about What's upon a Time in Hollywood?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
No, No, this is like a more recent movie. It
was like a big budget movie that kind of flopped. Anyway,
he was this silent film actor. And so through the
first half of the movie, they're filming silent movies. Well,
then somebody figures out how to add sound, and it's
(10:27):
so funny because them trying to add sound to the
movie is so comical because it's so hard because nobody
was used to trying to be quiet on set, and
so they kept screwing it up, and finally this one
guy eventually dies in the sound room because it's not
air conditioned, and they have to keep doing this take
over and over so long. The guy finally dies.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I have no idea what movie you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Oh, I can't even think of the name of it,
Palladium or it's got a weird one name like that.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
We're gonna give phonecals.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'm just white torture ourself. What's Brad Pitt's movie where
he's a silent movie actor? Babylon twenty two.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Oh yeah, I didn't see that.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, but anyway, if you watch that movie, you laugh
because they had such a hard time trying to add
sound to a movie.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Oh, it just backs up what we're saying.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, exactly. It's like, yeah, it's super hard to get
the sound quality correct.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, I think we sound pretty good right now.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well, yeah, but we're not doing a movie or video.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You can only imagine doing a movie well when we
were doing like TV and stuff, because we did TV
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, but I go back and watch some of our
etowns and yeah, the sound quality is not super good.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
We tried, We.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Tried well, and but we were in a coffee shop
and we wanted.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We wanted we want a background.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, we wanted a background noise. So yeah, Gretchen called
oh old blockhead, blockhead.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
She said, I'm not gonna do blah blah blah blah blah.
And Gary Brady was a rock star. Gary Brady, I
mean Greg.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
She she Carlos Santana, David and Sean Cassidy. She also
mentioned Sammy Hagar.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But but she also mentioned Gary Brady, Gary.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Brady, what was his Johnny Bravo. Johnny Bravo was a
rock star. Greg Brady wasn't, But Johnny Bravo.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That's true, that's true. We'll give you that one.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
That's that must be what she was talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh, by the way, Gretchen, I'm sorry to let you know,
it's it's time.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The creamer must go.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The creamer's gotta go. You forgot to put the creamer
in the freezer. It's not gonna make it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And uh, it's in there with the caramel rappers.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, it's starting to get funky and stuff. So sorry, Gretchen.
Full see, he gone not gone yet, it'll be gone
soon soon. I gotta clean up my fridge.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Before we hop into the I guess that's all. I
didn't get any emails.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No email, and I think we've covered all the phone
calls Steve, Jason, Carl, Larry, Gretchen Dave, I think we
got everything covered. If not, well apologize.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, so before we hop into the theme of the
episode real quick, I did want to mention, even though
I'm not it wasn't ever a big fan, I think
it's pretty cool that Rush it's getting ready to tour.
I saw that Geddy and Alex have recruited a new
drummer and they are going to go out on the tour.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Forty two year old lady yep, yeah, and Anika Neil's Niles.
Not a lot of rock star rock lady, four year old.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No props to her good job. She's previously backed Jeff Beck.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh there.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
She's going to join them on a twelve date seventh
City fifty something tour, which kicks off June seventh in La.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah. So that just like we've said before, these these
these people that we used to love and watch and
listen to in the seventies, they're doing like final tourists.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Now. Well, now that's the problem, Dave. Dave. Dave's kind
of given me poo pooh for being a young blood fan.
But I'm tired of going to see bands that are
only half there or one or when we went to
see Foreigner there was none. There was literally not a
single original member Foreigner with him. So I think young Blood.
(14:45):
He gives me that seventies rockstar vibe.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So anyway, yeah, I need to watch more of his stuff.
And so now is Aerosmith doing one more tour or
is that face see?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
No, I don't know now they are doing. They've done songs.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It's called like One Last Ride or something as the
name of the tour which I saw.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, I don't know if they're going to do I've
heard somebody was rumoring that a couple of the guys
from Aerosmith could end up popping into some of young
Bloods tour day like an Irving, like an Irving. That'd
be cool, cool, But so I don't know. I doubt
because he's got a whole new tour for twenty six
(15:29):
already lined up. I doubt he's going to go on
tour with Aerosmith, and five of their songs are them together,
so I don't see how Aerosmith would go on tour
without him. So I doubt they're going on tour, But
you never know.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, well somebody knows.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Let us know, let us know if you guys have
heard anything. Okay, So what we figured out was we
only have four episodes before Halloween. Oh and one of
them's got to be a Facebook live and then the
other one is going to be our live from a
scary place. So we really only have two regular episodes
before Halloween. So this is this is our seventies homage
(16:09):
to October. I guess kind of scary creepy places in Eno, Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, these are places that we.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Heard about went to. Uh yeah, what's that noise?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I don't know that. Did you hear something?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
No, if I'd have thought about it. You know, there's
that old creepy seventies album album. Yeah, it would have
been fun to play in the background. And I've got it.
I've actually got the album.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, but it's just three hours long. We don't have
to flip it over.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So if you hear something weird in the background, just
ignore it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, it's just it's an atmospheric music.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah. So I drove down West Broadway today and today
so any in Oklahoma it's been kind of like an
Indian summer. It's been eighties and hot. Well, today the
temperature dropped felt super cloudy, sixteen mile an hour north,
cool wind, rainy rain, so it felt like fall today.
(17:13):
And so I went down Broadway and was cruising by
Stayton's old place and looked down the driveway and I thought,
you know, this is the exact time when we would
be in that garage making a building the Maze. And
so I think we built the may This is what
I'm thinking is we built the Maze in seventy six,
seventy seven, and seventy eight, So I think we did
(17:34):
it three years in a row.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I probably only did the seventy eight vers.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, I just I thought that was
kind of I was like, Wow, it's cool being able
to drive down the street that you grew up on
every day and see those memories speaking of the street
that you YouTube grew up on.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
One of the uh, probably one of the classic scary places.
And I mentioned this earlier and I told you I
was going to ask you on air about this. So
one of the one of the famous scary places, and
he needed it's probably it got to be Gaslight.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Gaslight Theater was used to be part of the Alton Mercantile. Yeah,
and the Alton Mercantile. Was it started like in nineteen
oh two, I think, And let me look at my
notes here. I'm getting on anyway, So the thing was
(18:45):
mister Alton had committed suicide.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, but just to clarify, he did not commit suicide
in the Gaslight Theater part of the building. It was
in the bigger Leonardo's part of the No. Actually, he
commit suicide at home, at home, that's right. He committed
suicide at home, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And I think his home was on Broadway. Oh yeah, yeah,
So I remember this is way before the internet. Going
to the library was it was it you and me
and Stateton went to the library going through all the
microfish and stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Probably when we were building the maze at gas Light
Theater probably yeah, yeah, I bet so.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And I remember going through it. I'm like, well, the
dude didn't even commit suicide.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
In the Yeah. Everybody so that they believe there's a
ghost in the old gas Light Theater on Maple.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Which used to be part of the Alton Mercantile, Yeah, or.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
A ghost in there as well. And and then people
had heard that mister Alton had hung himself, and so
a lot of people, as time has gone by, have
associated that he hung have thought he hung himself in
the building. Well he didn't, right, but that doesn't mean
that his spirit didn't migrate migrate back to the building.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It brings me to another don't let me forget this.
Oh go ahead, No, no, to finish, we need to
finish this. Well, Okay, I got another theory.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Okay. So, so when I was a kid, I grew
up in Gaslight theater. My mom helped paint set signs
in the sets, and and being a single parent, you know,
we had to pretty much go with her when she
went so and we liked hanging out at.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
The gas Light shun It was.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Fun because they had the They had this The seats
had a tunnel underneath them, so actors and people doing
things could get from one end of the theater to
the other without people seeing them. So we would spend
a lot of time in this tunnel under the seats
and in the back and everything. So we always thought
the building was pretty creepy anyway. And and one of
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our teachers at Enot High School, mister Clausing Claus. Before
we got to Enid High School, teacher, I knew him
as a guy that just hung out at gas Light Theater.
So one night, the way that the gas Light Theater
front doors worked was once you closed it and locked
it with the key, you couldn't open it from the inside.
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You had to have the key from the outside to
open the door. For some reason. Well, he got locked
in one night, and again this is before cell phones
and everything, so he had to use the phone inside
the office there to call somebody with a key to
come let him out. Well, in the meantime, while they
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were coming to give him the key, he swears up
and down that he heard I can't remember what his
story was, if it was voices or just noises, but he,
mister Clausing, was a huge, huge man.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
You wouldn't think he'd.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Be what literature teacher at ended High so very serious,
you know. It just it isn't something that he would
make up. I mean, if there was some scary noise
or something, he heard it. So anyway, so that's that's
the Gaslight Now. I never experienced seeing or hearing anything,
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but usually the times we were there it was there
was tons of people around. And then as we got older,
what probably seventy nine eighty, because we had built the
maze and Stateton's garage. They were having a haunted house.
The youth were having a haunted house at gas Light Theater,
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and so we helped them kind of build a little maize,
kind of a mini maze in there, and we spent
a little bit of time. Oh I remember they were
playing the theme from Amityville Horror. Oh god, we must
have heard that thousand freaking times we used did sing that? All? Yeah,
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get out? Oh my gosh. That's so. There's our there's
our little gas Light Theater story.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Okay. So now let's let's let's do the Grand Avenue
Hotel Okay, okay, which is now Garfield Furniture, which it's
been forever. And this is why, this is why I'm
doing this, Okay. So, I think a lot of people
know that allegedly John Wilkes Booth didn't die in the
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barn and wherever the heck that was back.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
East, I think he changed his name to David E.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
George George Okay, okay, So, and he committed suicide, tried
to commit suicide a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I think, down in Alrena, and they moved. And on
his deathbed in Alreno, he said that he was John
Wilkes booth.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yes, so you know that. Being said, there's another building
and I did not know this here in town, just
a couple of blocks away. So if Alton, mister Alton
could have hung himself on Broadway, which I'm pretty sure
it was on Broadway, we need to figure out which
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house out.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Was was we track it down.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, if he could have gone back to his mercantile.
There is a story about the Knox Building.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
The guy that died in the elevator.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yes, his name was George. It was George E.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
David No, I yes, but no, it was George.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
It was George. He was a they said he was.
The Knox Building constructed nineteen twenty four. It was a
six story building with an elevator, which I think at
the time was, you know, pretty cool. The top two
floors were a Masonic temple and they were closed abruptly
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in nineteen forty six for no apparent reason. So they
were closed from nineteen forty six to nineteen eighty one.
No one was allowed on the top two floors. Parts
of lights were seen from the floor. Enan symphony director
had an encounter with George, the elevator repair man, walking
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the halls. Now, how many haunted georgees can we have?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I don't know, but yeah, several lots of people have
experienced kind of ghost like things in the Knox I had.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I had never heard.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Oh really, no, you never heard about George? No? Oh
my gosh, where have you been living?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Pretty much where? I have heard all that all except
for seven years of my life i've lived here in
New Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
That's crazy talk, crazy talk.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So yeah, I'm sorry, it's getting.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Ramping up the scariness there. Uh now, now I've been
in the you know, we had one of our reunions
up there on one of the top two floors.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So let me ask you this. So where the symphony is?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Is that the top floor or the symphony?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I don't think it is.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I'm trying to think. No, I think the symphony is
the second to the top floor.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay, so what's on the top floor. I remember hearing
like there was a bowling alley after one time. Yeah,
I really did. I don't know if it was you
here's stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well, you know, I don't. I'm trying to think of
how all that works. You know, there's like the big Symphony,
which is it's almost like I think the symphony part
is like two I was gonna say, yeh, it's like
it's open two floors, and then there's the mezzanine thing
and then there's like a small there's like several big
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ballroom type rooms up there, which are on the highest floor.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, so I don't but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, I think i'd have to go up there and
anyway somehow it takes up the top two floors. But
I've never experienced. And so this isn't all just about
ghost It's just about creepy, scary, weird places in Enid.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So like when I was a kid, I mean, you
didn't hang out in my neighborhood. So there was a
house two blocks over on Elm and then halfway down
it was always vacant. See it became ant house.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
That's what I was going to ask, you did you
have because I just watched the episode of Leave It
to Beaver, exact same thing. There's a house in the
neighborhood that sat empty for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It's on it, It's on it, and so on West Broadway.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I was trying to think, I don't remember us ever
having a haunted an empty house that sat for now,
the mansion, the Knox Mansion sat, but that was really eighties.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
What about the house directly west of Staaten's house. It
was very dark, never saw any right across the street
from Peers.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
You never saw, but it wasn't empty. There was a dude,
but you never saw. You never saw him.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
But I always thought, and this is and this is.
You know, we were much older and not prone to
be scared, but I was like, that's a creepy ass house.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
It could be if you thought it was haunted, but
I don't know. For some reason, we never thought of
it as being haunted.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I never thought it was being haunted. But I always
thought it was creepy because they had these weird uh
window shades things. They were like louvered, old old fashioned. Yeah,
they were very dirty and it was a very dirty
dark it's not now.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, I'm trying to think if we ever in our
lives saw like this day, like somebody that mowed the
lawn or I don't remember anybody mowing the lawn or no,
but it was always decently kept.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, no, it was yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, So any anytime you get a house in your
neighborhood that's empty for and when you're a kid four
or five years is an eternity.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Well yeah, and yeah instantly becomes well the movie Halloween,
I mean, you know, any empty house the kids start
throwing rocks through the windows and so but I just
don't remember one from our neighborhood, and I try. I
racked my brain and I actually drove around, you know,
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when I was coming to Callahan's. I drove through there
and I was like trying to remember, was there any house,
even on Maine or Cherokee, But I just don't remember.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
No, just that one.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I don't remember one. So out Phillips University east of
town had this Phillips University, there was a girl's dorm
called Clay Hall. There's urban legends of it being haunted,
and so once Phillips closed down, it sat empty for
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a while. And then Northern Oklahoma College bought a a
lot of the about the property, but they didn't use
Clay Hall. So Clay Hall sat empty for probably a
decade or more.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, it was. It was condemned by the state in
nineteen eighty in the early eighties.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Okay, so it's that empty, so it got it got
kind of creepy, and I think people broke into it,
oh sure, and had ghost stories of and I think
we were. I think at one time I was wanting
to break into it, but at that point I think
they had boarded it up pretty good where you couldn't
slip in there as easy as you used to. But
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kind of a weird story to go along with that
is in the I don't know, probably seventy seven seventy eight,
my sister started hanging around with Mitch Sandford and that
is really fun. Yeah, you're going to know here in
a second, I'm going to tell you.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And if you can remember Tony.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
No other guy. There was two guys. Mitch was a
black kid and the other guy was a white kid.
And they would come over to our house.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Did Mitch play the piano?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
No, okay, his name's gonna Keith Tippet, So Keith Tippett.
Keith Tippett and Mitch Sandford used to come over. And
one day they came over to our house and Connie
wasn't home, and I was going somewhere, and they said, well,
can we wait on Connie? And I said, well, you know,
I probably shouldn't leave you alone. In our house, but okay,
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and I did, and like a week later, my mom
just exploded and was crying because somebody had gotten into
her jewelry box and had stolen just a small amount
of money, but it was like sentimental money that somebody
had given her and she was keeping it not because
it was money, but because it was sentimental, and somebody
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took it. And so I had to admit that I
had let Mitch and Keith hang out in the house,
and I assumed one of those two DoLS. So so
Mitch was always in trouble. So then what happened. I
guess he was having a lot more trouble, trouble in school,
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and I guess had been taken some drugs. Anyway, he
hung himself as behind Clay Hall in nineteen seventy nine
and so, and I didn't know all the details until
I was doing this show. They found a chair, the
chair that he stood up on, he wrapped, he nailed
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his belt to the tree limb and hung himself with
his belt. But a lot of people tried to say
that he was hung by the clan. Well, the police investigated,
and again he was on drugs, supposedly, not a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Of plan around here.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, and he and his teachers and classmates said that
he was having a lot of problems. Depression I think
was one of them. So anyway, So anyway, that kind
of lay leads to the or the lore of Clay Hall.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I didn't realize it was just at Clay Hall.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah. It was a tree that the old tree that's
behind it still there. I think the tree is still there.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, So anyway, kind of creepy there, see if you
had not Yeah. So anyway, so now they've turned Clay
Hall into a retirement like a retirement home for people
under a certain amount of income or something, so it's
not a dorm, even though the college is still open.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah. And apparently there are recordings audio recordings of voices
and piano playing and someone at Clay Hall. Yeah really yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah. I didn't have time to find those recordings or
I mean that if there are on the internet, but
apparently there are.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Well. Probably the scariest place for us, no, I know
where you're going now in the seventies was.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
The Insane Asylum.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Gosh. I remember so many people talking about the Insane Asylum.
We were like, oh wow, Now we never went out
We never went in the Insane Asylum at night, did
we We didn't.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Know, but we made we made it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So so what we did was so we don't we
think this building there was this old wooden building outside
of town was a poor folks and I think it
was back in the day, and then it got abandoned
and it was literally fought, literally falling apart, like roof
had caved in and.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Not like the Simpsons.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, no, this this was like on its last leg.
And so somebody, you know, kids, called it the Insane
Asylum because I think there was an asylum maybe out
in that area at one time, but it wasn't that building.
But anyway, so we called it the Insane Asylum. We
formed a club called the Elmo Club, which everybody that
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was an original member was already a member, so we
didn't have to be initiated, but the people that wanted
to be, which always fascinated additional members. We decided to
make an initiation and Ron Carpenter was our first victim.
So we went out to the Insane Asylum during the day,
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which was even scary. I was because so in the
seventies it wasn't always a fear of ghosts. It was
like a fear of druggies.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, druggies or not homeless, we would vagrants or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, just running into somebody you didn't know that might
want to accost you for some reason. So we we
went out there during the day one day and hid
I remember what we hit. I don't either, but I
remember once we set it down in the basement, we
ran like to get out there started to I remember that.
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So so then that night we drove Ron Carpenter out there.
We made him go in there at night by himself
and get that thing out of the basement to become
a member of the Almo Club. And Everybody's like, what
the hell. And I know we've we've talked about the
Elmo Club, I'm sure. So anyway, that was our weird
little club.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
But it just ams me. Anybody wanted to be in
our club.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Well, if there was anybody that wanted to be in
our club, it was Ron Carpenter. He wanted to be
in our club so bad that he had his own
Elmo Club T shirt, the only one in the whole
club got a T shirt. And he got his picture
freaking taken in the yearbook with our club on it.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
We made the Cindy's they they didn't have to go in,
you know. I think we made them like they had.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
To go to winch Oil and buy donuts with pennies
or something. Pretty goofy. It was.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
It was Cindy Clintworth and Cindy Tate. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, so but anyway, the Insane Asylum was definitely like
the scary place that.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Was probably heading me of scary around.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
And it was out by the old dump, so that
made it even creepier because you're out by the smelly dump.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah. Yeah, and it's it's gone down. Apparently it burned down.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, somebody burned some I'm I'm assuming somebody burned it down.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, and then they cleared it and now it's the
gun range for the police department. Yeah, so you can
you can go out and you can actually see where
the foundation was.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
But it went out there.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, I wondered. I wanted to find it, and we
did go out and find it.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah. It's weird because it didn't seem as far away
as it was.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah. It's literally not even out of town. It's in intown.
It's like, oh I thought that was a long ways away.
H Well, let's talk about Imo Cemetery real quick. Yeah,
I've never been out there and seen the headstone.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
So glowing headstone.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Growing up, we've been told that there was a glowing
headstone at the Imo Cemetery, but as you get closer
to it, it stops glowing. There are reports of claw
marks on the headstone and voices coming from an old
Indian burial ground at the rear of the cemetery. I
I and somebody drove out there a couple of years
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ago because I was curious about it, and it's it's
literally just not much. I mean, there's almost not much
cemetery there.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of little cemeteries that
are just yeah, they around, and they don't they don't
got gates, so you could just go in intown and yeah,
one guarding room or nothing like.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
That, right, and this is just right off the road.
But I think I went out there during daylight, so
I don't I was trying to figure out where the
glow would come from. I do think there's a large
white tombstone out there, which you know, maybe during certain
moonlight or something like, we'll have to we may well
that may that could be one of our locations for
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in two weeks. But anyway, there's that, there's the Enid Cemetery,
Our Enid Cemetery, the Old Enid Cemetery is one of
those with the big headstone, so there's like headstones all over,
and then there's a mausoleum in the middle.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
They're building a new one. Did you see that?
Speaker 1 (39:36):
That's what I was. That's what I wanted to show
you and Gretchen. Oh, yeah, it's just like, what the
heck is that thing? Is that? What it is?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
It looks like it's small.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
To me, it looked like a one person mausoleum. Yeah,
I mean like glitter and white. And yeah, when I
saw it, it was like something from Barbie or something.
I was like, what the heck is that? But I
don't know if they were just still working on it.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, I was. I was working at a Kip's house
last week and we were like, hey, let's run into
Callahans because there having the German food and all they
had was brought burgers because it was Thursday, not Friday anyway,
so we know, coming from his house you go down
that road and I was like and we were all like,
all three of us were like what the heck is that?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
See, that's what I said. So I took Gretchen, but
Gretchen was on the phone and not paying attention. So
I don't know if Gretchen even remembers that her and
I drove over there. So I parked and looked at it,
and I couldn't really figure out what the heck was
going on. I should have taken a picture, I don't know.
I didn't take a picture of it. But and then
spider tunnel.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Spider tunnels creepy.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
So spider tunnel was creepy because the same thing, is
there going to be a druggy down there? Is there
going to be a vagrant hiding in the tunnel once
we get and then once you're down there, you know,
if somebody snags you, you're gone, You're gone.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
It's kind of like it exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
And that was before it was it.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, and I'm not going down there because I had
a bend over and awkward position.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
And well but as a kid, oh sure, it wasn't.
It wasn't magnificent cobra, so that.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
That wasn't creepy. That was like, you just don't go there.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Well, but it was creepy. It was. It was the
bar on I guess you'd call the black side of town,
where everybody knew somebody that knew somebody that knew somebody
that had been stabbed here. And so it was like
the aura of this magnificent cobra. Don't go near there,
you'll get stabbed.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, And it was a couple of years ago. I
was driving through there working on a house and I
took a picture of it and I'm like, that is
so unassuming.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Well, it's because it had the magnificent cobra logo on
the side of the building.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
It's a creepy It's a tiny block building. Now it's tiny.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
It's like just a block building.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
It's like the size of a maybe a two car
garage maybe.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
And I bet had you gone in there, there'd have
been five dudes from the Vietnam War, all drink a
beer and would have talked to you for hours.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, yeah, probably. Yeah, it's funny how the imagination goes.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, bird sanctuary, so growing up, we why is that creepy? Well,
because again it's a bird sanctuary.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
It's sanctuary, and it's.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Well, so on the north side of the bird sanctuary
is boggy Creek and that's where we would go, yeah,
to find tadpoles and stuff. Well, the Bird Sanctuary back
in the seventies was a place the high schoolers went
to smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
And dope dope smokers.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
So again, you were afraid you might run into a
dope smokers, high school guys that were going to beat
you up or something.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Because they're dope smoker.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Because they were dope smokers. What does he say in
uh dayson Confused? He walks by and one guy says,
it's somebody smoking dope. You got a problem with that anyway? No,
so it wasn't It wasn't creepy or scary as far
as like ghost. It was just you just didn't want
to get caught and surrounded by a bunch of high
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school dudes when you're like this a little sixth grader.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. You don't want
to be anywhere like that at all. Ever. Yeah, what
about the Kiszner.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Edition Kissner Edition, which was Enid's first cemetery.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Ineni's first cemetery. They and it's hard, it's hard to
imagine now because it's on basically the corner of Wabash
and van Buren went Highway eighty one, which is very much,
very busy, very pretty much in the heart of heart
of Enid. But at the time that was like apparently
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on the edge of town, and so they buried much
people there because it was it was the first cemetery. Yeah,
in like the well we're on a T shirt the
late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, because people were dying.
That's the way they buried the first first person that
died and needed and they just started burying other people there,
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and I guess.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I think they realized that's a good spot for real estate.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, so fast forward. I don't know when did they
developed that. Probably in the well we know the Champlain
Mansion was built in, which is around the corner. So
it couldn't have been a cemetery for very long.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I don't Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Think, maybe two decades at the most. So I don't
know how many people could be buried there.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
But the well they dug, they thought they'd dug them
all up and moved them, but they missed a few.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Well apparently from what I researched, it was up to
the relatives.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
To pay oh that's right for remove, which.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
To me, doesn't sound right. It's like, if you want
to develop this, then you moved my ancestor, you moved
my granddad. But apparently some of them didn't get moved
for one reason or another. And there are a lot
of basements in that area. Not a lot of basements
in edit, but in that area there are a lot
of basements. So, and I'm not sure on which side
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of because the west side of eighty one is a
little bit different than the east side of Anger.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
And I've always thought it would be kind of around
Brenton Marcy's house, which is which is the big white
one where the road splits, the big huge.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
The old Singer mansion.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I think we've had that discussion before. I don't think
it was Singer, it was that it was Kisser. The
Kisseners lived there originally.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Oh oh oh, so you were thinking the same thing,
not not yeah yeah with the spiky yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
And that's what makes it creepy, is that spiky fence.
It's almost like an Adam's family fence around it.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
It is. And that's the one that Johnny oh yeah,
Keith uh poke his brain and uh that's creepy. Yeah,
And that that is yeah, that's a fact. I know
that because him and my sister were best friends back
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in the day.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, what about the pawnshops on West Maine.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I love the pawn shop.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Well, I liked him, but they were a little creepy.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
All those old buildings were could be they creaked and.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah, I mean, and we were supposed to be in them.
So we were in there without our parents knowledge.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
How come we watched was men? Nobody ever told me
not to be in them.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Well, my mom never knew I was even downtown, So
I'm sure i'd got in trouble just for being that
far away from home, let alone going into him. Yeah
my mom would. Yeah, I don't think she'd have wanted
me in a pawn shops.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
No, really, that's where you buy your throwing stars.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I don't think my mom would have wanted to buy
throwing stars. But I'm talking like seventh, sixth, seventh grade.
I mean I'm talking. Oh no, I was pretty pretty young.
I was.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I was going down there seventh eighth grade.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, I mean, you know, once we got a little older,
not that big a deal, but as I just remember,
like sometimes riding our bikes to see Disney movies, atesqu
and then going over and looking at comics at the
pawn shop and just being creepy because there'd be this
old one, old dude in there and a bunch of
(47:24):
creepy things in there, and you'd always head for the
comic aisle and grab comics as quick as you could
and get out of there.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
I never bought comics at those places. I always went That's.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Where I got I think I got almost all of
my comics.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
And they all had a smell.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking that they were lighting was dingy. Yeah,
the shelves were packed with crap, the floors creaked, and
they were smelly because they were those old buildings that
were on their last leg. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, they were pushing one hundred years old back then.
Back then, which you know parts of the country your
buildings were only one hundred year old, you know. Yeah,
you go back east there are four or five hundred
years old.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
But anyway, yeah, yeah, but they were made out of
stone and stars were all wood.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
But anyway, those would be creepy, you know, equally creepy.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah. Uh now, and I don't think I knew about
this in the seventies, but Black Bear church, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Which you and I and Natalie and went a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, we we went and hung out there. So there's
a cemetery there, and across the street is they burned
out church.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
There's like nothing left of that church, not well.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Just but you can kind of go down into the
basement area and it's supposed to be haunted. There's a
lot of graffiti and they say don't go there because
the sheriff'll arrest you. We went anyway, but and then
black Bear Creek runs alongside, and I think that I
don't think it's actually black Bear Church. I think I
(49:05):
think it's just named that.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Because of the creep Oh.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
But yeah, so I don't but I think it was
creepy back in the seventies. It was just so far
out of town.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
We a little bit outown, real far.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
We didn't go out there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
I had never heard of it until you and I
and Natalie went out there.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know that i'd heard about it
in the city, but I think it was there. I
think it was creepy.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Did you post any of that video?
Speaker 1 (49:29):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
I know you took video, but I didn't go live No,
I don't don't know if live was a thing, but
I don't.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to think of.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Even dude, that's that's somewhere on one of your phones.
You took a bunch of video, because why else would
we go out there?
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Where would I wonder where that would be? It was it? Yeah,
I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
That's when we were doing like early buzzhead radios.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I know, I mean if we had natally with us,
I was filming stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
I'll have to go through my October of every year
and see if I can find it.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Oh no, if I've got it on, I had to
have saved it. It's got to be there somewhere. I
don't know. It's it's funny that you say that that
I don't know where you got to got to be.
We'll find that anyway. And then my last one on
my list is so back in the day, we had
the Enid State School, which was a home for mentally
(50:37):
how do how do we say that challenged? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (50:45):
And when you went, when you drove in there, there
was a big building they called the White House building
because it was the white It looked like the White
House had big columns, and everybody that kind of worked
there had thought it was hand things would happen there.
And then and then there was a the cemetery yep,
(51:05):
it was called the State School cemetery is behind it,
and you and I and we went to that cemetery
after we went to black Bear Church.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, and so we've gone to black Bear Church, the cemetery,
we've gone, the gas light we've yeah, we just can't find.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
So, speaking of gaslight, they moved Gaslight to the old
Chief Movie Theater and it supposedly was a haunted building,
and so they had a deal where they let people
come in and hang out one night, and you and
I went.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
And we hung out there for a couple of hours.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Videoed and creeped around, and we went everywhere.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
We went everywhere in that building.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
We've never gone any Have I told you? That ghost
Hunters as their own channel on Roku TV. So it's
twenty four to seven ghost Hunter. So if I'm bored
or I don't want to search for something to w
I'll just flip it on either leave it to Beaver
or ghost Hunter.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
I do Storage Wars.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
It was yeah, exactly, So I just flip it on
and Brandy ghost hunter. So every episode something happens, there's
a voice or no, we've never have have we ever
encountered anything. It's a weird line.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
We never encountered, squad, and we want, we want something
to happen. Although we didn't get the full fledged Wiji board.
You made me leave it in the bathroom. You made
me leave it in the bat I'm the boards right down.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
I am perfectly fine with the Ouigi board. It's our
listeners that are not fine with the Wigi board. Maybe Dave.
Dave won't even listen to the episode. If we say
there's gonna be a Wigi board in it.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
We just won't tell Dave.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
There's okay, don't tell Dave.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Okay, it's right down, it's right down there in the den.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
You should set it up and put the thing on
a letter and just leave it alone and let's see
if no, it doesn't work that way. But how do
you know?
Speaker 2 (53:06):
I will, Okay, I will.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
It may not be the Ouiji board. It may be
your dad's ghost in that way.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Oh you know why, my dad's he hasn't been here
in a long time.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
But that's what I'm saying. Maybe he is, and.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
That's why we put it in the bathroom because that's
where the air personal bottle of his moved. No, no, No,
there's been I mean there have been multiple people die
in this house. I know Dad died here and his
he had a friend, Jim. He had he had an
old friend who was I think it was either a
friend that he knew from like VFW or American Legion
(53:39):
or whatever. And he didn't have any family, and he
didn't have any place to live. And Dad's like, you know,
comes to hear and that. You know, how many people
have lived in the guest house, but they are Jim
I think his name is Jim. He stayed mild bedroom
and he passed away from there.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
We've had three people die in our house. Yeah, I
don't know if it was four. I don't know if
w W died in our house or in a nursing home.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
That's where you want to die.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Lillian died in the house, Betty died in the house,
and Jim died in the house.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
That's that's where you want to go. That make him
hant it, though, But but I did smell Dad for
a long time if you guys don't know that, go
back and listen to the some of the early episodes,
and we talked about my you know what old.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
People smell like?
Speaker 2 (54:25):
They smell.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
It's that old people smell.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, and they do they do.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Oh yeah, it's and I want to know what it
is so I can avoid it when I get old.
I don't want to. I don't want to have the
old people's.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
It's just because they can't take a shower every day.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Oh I'll take a shower every day.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
At some point, unless you fall over dead on the trail,
which you probably will. Uh, you won't have a choice.
You know, you can do sponge basses and all that stuff,
and you know, I'll.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Just live in a house with the pool and I'll
swim every day.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Actually, I think, if I remember, your showers are ADA compliant.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
I think, yeah, I think that's why they redid the
house so everything would.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
Be yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, so I'll wheel
you in there and hose you off.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
Yeah, okay, got any more on your list over there?
Speaker 4 (55:14):
Let me double check make sure them is a save
the Sylum gas Light Stage, School, Glowing Headstone, Grand Avenue,
Kissner Knox Building, Clay Hall.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Nope, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah, Okay, will you guys let us know, like, if
you guys had a neighborhood house or a building or
something in your city in the seventies that you remember
being really creepy or scary, let us know at five
eight zero five four one three eight oh five or
buzzabuzzedmedia dot com. And so next week will be Facebook
(55:48):
Live regular regular, and then the next week we'll do
another Halloween scary themed episode. And then the next Tuesday,
which will be the Tuesday before Halloween, we'll try to
go live somewhat somewhere. Oh and if you're listening to
this and you live in Enid and you have an
idea or a building lease, contact as please please, yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
You should probably put that on Facebook again.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah yeah, okay, Okay, I think we're gonna get out
of here.
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