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Speaker 1 (00:07):
In the dark shadows, in the white cold. Fearlessly, we
search for knowledge new and old. We drink the strong
spirits and read the ancient tongs. The order of the Abercast.
We are the brave and the bold. The Abercast a
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cult history, conspiracy and violence.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, some website just released a list of the top
one hundred conspiracy podcasts and guests. Who was solidly on
number fifty It was us. It was The Ambercast, and
I was like, wow, that's pretty cool, and I don't
remember the last time I had an episode. So here
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we go. Buckle up, We're going full boar into I
don't know what two weeks ago, what a month ago,
two months ago, three months ago might have sounded like
a conspiracy, But as we know in this day and age,
conspiracies is just a matter of time. Eventually they all
get proven right, and the people who are talking about
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them said, yeah, of course, and the people are like,
not talking about it, We're like, no, it's wrong. Burn
down cyber Trucks. And now I'm your host, John Towers,
and welcome back. I'm sorry for my delay in episodes,
but I got a banger here for you today, and
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just to apologize, I know, some people don't like it
when I play clips, but this is gonna be clip
heavy show because I have a lot of shit to
talk about, and using these clips is kind of a shorthand.
It's kind of a shortcut. It's like a hyper space
and storytelling. So you know, this episode and this topic,
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this is actually kind of a culmination of a bunch
of topics that we've talked about here on the show
CIA culture creation. When we talked about how this how
CIA funded Jackson Pollock and the postmodernist art movement to
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compete with the super realistic art that was coming out
of Russia during the Cold War. We talked about Operation Mockingbird,
And here we have this oldie but goody, uh favorite,
this is where CIA put oh my god, my fucking
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thank you sorry. This is where the CIA put assets
in every They said, every every newsroom that matters has
c i A assets in it and in front of
the camera. And here's the oldie but Goody just kind
of like, how the fuck would this happen if that
wasn't the case.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Our responsibility, Treasure Valley communities, the Old Pass, Last Crucis communities,
Eastern I with communities in Michigan communities.
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We're extremely proud of the quality, balanced journalism that CDs
four News produces, but we are.
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One in our country.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Sharing of bias and false news has become all too
common on social media war alarming. Some media outlets publish
the same fake stories without checking facts first.
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The sharing of biased and.
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False news has become all too common without first unfortunate,
and this is extremely dangerous.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
It's extremely dangerous democracy.
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Extremely extremely dangerous.
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Our democracy is extremely dangerous to our democracy, is extremely.
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Dangerous to our democracy.
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This is extremely dangerous, dangerous to our demos.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
About extremely dangerous our democracy, extremely dangerous to our democracy.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
What if all isn't as it seems? What if the
reality you found was false, a carefully constructed narrative by
unseen special interests design to manipulate your opinion.
Speaker 8 (05:07):
I've been a journalist for about twenty five years, and
I was educated to lie, to betray, and not.
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To tell the truth.
Speaker 8 (05:16):
Is the public there is nobody coming to you and say, well,
we are the Central Intelligence Agency? Would you like to
work for us?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Now? This is not the case.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
How it happens. What they do these transatlantic organizations is
they invite you. They invite you for seeing the United States.
They pay all your expenses and everything.
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So you're bright.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
You get more and more corrupt because they make you
good contacts. You won't know that those good contacts are
let's say nonofficial or officially people working for Central Intelligence
Agency or other American agencies. So you make friends, they
are friends, and you cooperate with them. They are well,
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could you do me this favor?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Could you do me that favor? Yes?
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Our responsibility treasure balant communities, the Castle US Crucis community
is what communities, Michigan communities.
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We're extremely proud of the.
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If it's like, it's so silly, because if it's not playing,
how does this happen? You know what I mean? Like
someone in somewhere Quantico, I don't know Herndon, Virginia, somewhere
is writing this and emailing it to every shitty local
news station in the country. And this is what you.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Get quality balance journalism that CITs four news produces.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Journalism country plaguing our country, sharing a.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Bias and false news has become all too common on
social media.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, it's what you're doing, bro. So we're gonna time
jump here. Yeah, we're time jumping here to two thousand
and eight, and this is when Barack Obama is running
for president and Big Mike is out in Puerto Rico
giving a speech and she says, she says something weird,
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and folks like Glenn Back other commentators were like, oh,
after she said this, they pulled her from the campaign
stop like this was her last like campaign campaign thing,
and we're just gonna listen to a little bit of this. However,
the whole thing is linked in the show notes if
you want to check it out. Okay, take it away.
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Big Mike.
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Is for you to understand.
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As the wife of Barack Obama.
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Yo man appears to be, he is.
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Not person that is guided by politics. He is a
person that is guided by compassion and hope and the
spirit of change.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Hope and change, hope and change. What are you changing?
What are you talking about?
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Change?
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What motivates him today.
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And what will him motivate him for the rest of
his presidency?
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If he is blessed enough to receive that honor, will
be the future, the world that we can build for
the next generation, our children, These beautiful little faces, all
who come here, open.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And ready and unburdened by all.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Of our hurts and pains from the past.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
They come fresh to this world and we owe them
the best that we can provide them as a country.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
And block knows.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
That we are going to have to make sacrifices.
Speaker 10 (08:50):
What we're going to have to change our conversation.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
We're going to have to change our traditions, our history.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Traditions and history a different place.
Speaker 10 (08:58):
What is that?
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And what am I the kind of feature that we
all weren't desperately. I'm glad you asked what that meant,
because here we go. We're gonna get into it. Foreign
policy dot com US repeals propaganda band spreading government made
news to Americans. So I need to give you a
little word of warning, Like I don't everything nowadays, you
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really got to dig because if you just type in
to you know, your favorite Google whatever search engine and
put Obama repeals, you know, CIA propaganda to US citizens,
you're gonna get like eighty fucking search result pages of
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fact check false, fact check negative. Anyhow, here it is
right from right from here, and this was written, Oh god,
when was this written? This article published more than eleven
years ago, so there's no on there. I believe maybe
twenty thirteen because the byline. John Hudson is a staff
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writer at and reporter for Foreign Policy from twenty thirteen
to twenty seventeen, So right in there. For decades, the
so called anti Propaganda law prevented the US government mammoth
Broadcasting Arm from delivering programming to American audiences. So, if
you're astute and you're paying attention to the episode, you know,
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I just played a clip where clearly something is going
on in the news broadcasting world, where there's scripts being
issued from someplace. So if that's what they're getting away with,
that's what they're getting away with. Before this band was
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tinkered with or whatever, think about what's happening right now,
and that's kind of the gist of this whole episode.
That's my message. For decades, it's so called anti pro
began the law preventing the US government's mammoth broadcasting Arm
from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July second,
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this came silently to an end with the implementation of
a new reform pasted in January. The result and unleashing
of thousands of hours per week of government funded radio
and TV programs for domestic US consumption in a reform
initially criticized as a green light for the US domestic
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propaganda efforts. So what just happened until a month? Until
this month, the vast ocean of US programming produced by
broadcasting Board of Governors such as Voice of America. I
actually dissed an article specifically about the Voice of America
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buying illegal at Facebook ads. I know, could you believe
it anyhow? That didn't make the cut. So, but just
to bring it up, Voice of America, Radio Free Europe,
Radio Liberty, and the Middle East broadcasting networks can only
be viewed or listened to at broadcast quality in foreign countries.
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The program varies in tone and quality, but its breath
is vast. It's viewed in more than one hundred countries,
sixty one languages, and the topics covered included human rights
abuses and Iran self immolation in Tibet, human trafficking across Asia,
and on the ground reporting in Egypt and Iraq. The
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restriction of these broadcasts was due to the Smith Mount Act,
a longstanding piece of legislation that has been amended numerous
times over the years, perhaps most consequently by Arkansas Senator
Jay William Fulbright. In the seventies. Fulbright was no friend
of Voice of America and Radio Free Europe and moved
to restrict them from domestic distribution, saying they should be
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given the opportunity to take their rightful place in the
graveyard of Cold War relics. Fulbright's amendment to Smith A.
Munt was bolster in eighty five by Nebraska Senator Edward Zarinsky,
who argued that such propaganda should be kept out of
America to distinguish the US from the Soviet Union, where
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domestic propaganda is a principle of government activities. Zarinsky and
Fulbright sold their amendments on sensible rhetoric American taxpayers shouldn't
be funding propaganda for American audiences. Man, I need to
remember this because I so did. Congress just tear down
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the American public's last defense against domestic propaganda. BBG spokeswoman
Lynn Wheel insist BBG is not a propaganda outlet, but
its flagship services such as VOA, present fail and accurate news.
They don't shy away from stories that don't shed the
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best light on the United States, she told the Cable.
She pointed at the charters of VOE and RFE, Voice
of America Radio for Europe. Our journalists provide what many
people cannot get locally, uncensored news, responsible discussion, and you know,
open debate. Is that what we get it on NPR.
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Do we get open debate on NPR? Is that right?
Do we get open to paid on PBS? Is that
what it's all? It's all about transparency on NPR. Former
US government sources with knowledge of BBG says that the
organization is no Pravda, but it does advance US interests
in more subtle ways. In Somalia, for instance, VOA serves
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as counter programming to outlets peddling anti American or jih
hotist sentiment. Somali's have three options for views, of course,
what the source said, words of mouth, l Shabab, or
VOA Somalia. This partially explains the push to allow BBG
broadcast on local radio stations in the United States the agency.
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The agency wants to reach dysphoria dysphoria communities such as
Saint Paul, Minnesota's significant Somali expat community. All right, those
people can get al Shabab, they can get Russia today,
but they couldn't get access to their taxpayer funded news
sources like VOA Somalia. The sources say it was silly.
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Lynn added that the reform has transparency benefits as well,
that now Americans will be able to know more about
what they're paying for with their tax dollars. Boy, howdy,
hasn't that been the case in the last month or so?
I mean, that's really the impetus of all all of this, right,
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what has been going on with our fucking tax dollars? So,
because my host is some kind of AI tyrant, they
make me do these ad breaks. I know, I've been
bitching about it when I do these episodes, you know, lately,
not that they've been any kind of whatever anyhow. So
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we're gonna do a break and then we're gonna actually
come back and talk about tax dollars. JINGI had I
summon the if anyone needed a reminder of the dangers
of domestic propaganda efforts in the past twelve months, providing
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ample reason. Last year to USA Today journalists were ensnared
in a propaganda campaign after reporting about millions of dollars
and back owned taxes by the Pentagon's top propaganda con
tractor and Afghanistan. Eventually, one of the owners of the
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firm confessed to creating phony websites and Twitter accounts to
smear journalists anonymously. Additionally, just this month, The Washington Posts
exposed a counter propaganda program by the Pentagon that recommended
posting comments on a US website run by Somali expat
with readers opposing at a shabbab.
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So.
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I think the crux of all of this stuff is
the importance of the tax dollar now in today's world,
after post Biden, you know, I often said, why are
we even paying tax And I'm not the only one
that said this, if we're just printing money, why do
I have to pay taxes? And you know, because we
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were just printing money. Look at the look at the
interest problem that we have right now. It's because we're
printing money, sending it to Ukraine. We're printing money, sending
it to China, printing money sending it all over the
play We're sending it everywhere. We're sending millions of dollars
to the fucking Taliban. This has happened. We sent pallets
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of cash to Iraq, you know, so in theory, those
are our tax dollars, you know, Uh, not a lawyer.
So I can't you know, dissect and hash out the
difference between you know, printed money on loan that my
tax dollars go to pay the interest on, uh what,
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as opposed to our tax dollars that just get four
over and sent someplace. You know, I'm sure someone would
argue that there's some sort of distinction between between that
those two things. So I was like, Okay, the way
that I would treat this is I would treat it
as like tithings. It is sacred. I'm the government, and
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I'm taking money away from you, money that should have
gone to put food on your family's table, money that
should have put shoes on your little kid's little nubbins,
could have paid for something that you need. But instead,
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you know, the government, in threats of violence, they will
lock you up in a federal fucking prison if you
don't pay them. So that money should be sacred. You're
taking money out of my family's mouth to do what with.
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And I started thinking of this idea as like, oh well,
if it is kind of like tithing, like what does
the Bible say about taxes? And you get a lot
of stuff, and we're gonna kind of get into some
of it here. I found this. I don't know if
it's a website seed bed or if it's a wake
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up call the podcast. I'm not listening to it. I'm
just reading kind of like their blog page about this.
But you know, another thing to think about when we're
going through this is, you know the importance of tax
collectors in the New Testament. You know the Apostles, Some
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of the apostles were tax collect They were hated, reviled,
fucking tax collectors. Right. So here we're just gonna jump
into this and we're gonna be talking about the sacredness
of tax dollars and then kind of looking at that idea.
So Roman on thirteen six to seven, this is also
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why you pay taxes for the authority. The authorities are
God's servants who give their full time governing, give to
everyone that you owe them. If you owe taxes, pay
the taxes. If revenue, then revenue, If respect then respective,
honor then honor. You know what Jesus, Jesus famously said,
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render unto Caesar? What is Caesar's Let's wrap up our
little experiment in crafting a working theology of government taxes
a Jesus Church. Partisan politics and dual citizenship. I know
some of you are thinking I'd rather get my wisdom
teeth extracted again today than this. Bear with me. This
is every bit as spiritual as offering your body as
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a living sacrifice. Remember, to claim Jesus is Lord is
to acknowledge that nothing falls outside of His merciful and
just jurisdiction. So let's begin. Taxes is a Paying taxes
is a spiritual act of obedience to the God, the
Father of our Lord, Jesus Christ. That said, I do
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not hate paying taxes, Jesus Lord. Government is necessary. The
purpose of government, at a bare minimum, is to protect
people from one another, including protecting them from the government itself,
as well as from the governments and citizens of other
sovereign lands. The Preamble of the Constitution of the United
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States is a brilliant summative example of what a government
constituted under God should aspire to. I include it here
to illustrate we, the people of the United States, in
order to form a more perfect union, established justice, ensure
domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote a general welfare,
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and secure the blessings of liberty unto ourselves and our
prosterity to ordain and establish this constitution for these United
States of America. Nowhere in this preamble of the Constitution
says we're gonna promote transagenda in the Third world countries.
Nowhere in the constitution says we're gonna pay for Sesame
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Street and Iraq. Nowhere in the preamble of the Constitution
says they're turning the frogs gay. Many among you of
my generation can't read that without hearing the school house
rock tune which we sang this preamble every Saturday morning
during the cartoon hours of our childhood. The guy who
wrote this is probably my age, and he's really just
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dated himself to my fellow Americans among our wake up
call fellowship. America has problems, but these fifty two words,
with their five stated purposes, hammered out in the hot
summer seventeen eighty seven, holds its brilliance. It is truly
a marvel. Taxes are meant to fund the government, not
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anything that we're about to be talking about for the
rest of the show. Notice, the government authorities are God's servants,
not by the virtue of being followers of God, which
they may or may not be but by the virtue
of a Jesus being lord over all governments. All governments
are working under a delegation of authority from God, which
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means they are ultimately accountable to God. Their accountability to
God will ultimately be measured by their accountability and faithfulness
to the people they served. Which makes a constitutional republic
perhaps the best form of government invented to date. Why because,
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in the words of Abraham Lincoln, it is a government
for the people, by the people, for the people. It
avoids the concentration of power that was That sounds like
something that was written, you know, in the eighteen hundreds.
Look around today, Look around at your government today. Everybody
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just look around and point and laugh. Look at Dan
Crunschhall and point and laugh. Look at Nancy Pelosi and
point and laugh. We've missed the point. We've gotten off track.
Note Also, when Paul says these authorities are God's servants,
he is stating a fact. Whether the authorities know this
or not, and whether they are acting as such or not.
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We think of governmental authority, at least in the American context,
as being accountable to the people. This may be true
in a temporal fashion, but their line of accountability actually
goes much higher. To the extent governmental authorities understand their
accountabilities to God, they will better serve the people. Now.
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I don't like to pay taxes. That's in the article.
But also I don't like today taxes. Up until very recently,
I was very poor, very impoverished, and taxes were a
giant problem for me. And my wife. Actually we were
just talking about I haven't done my taxes yet. She'll like,
usually you're right on the money with that, and I'm like, well, yeah,
I used to be poor. I'm not off to the
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races as much anymore. And back to the article. I
try to avoid paying taxes as much as possible under
the law. I'd rather give my money to the church
or directly to others in need. I don't like that
the irs. I often disagree with how my taxes are
being spent here here, I often seriously think that my
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taxes are being spent in ways that contravene the will
and the ways of God. And I live in America.
How much more must it have been maddeningly difficult for
the first Christians in the first century Rome, with its
tyrannical leaders. Yet Paul told them to submit to the
government authorities and to pay their god dang taxes. I
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can't believe I'm saying this, but if my logic holds,
and it may not, paying taxes to the government is
an act of faithfulness to God, and I find myself
on the brink of repentance. It is not that I
think that I'm gonna go all of a sudden and
be glad about paying these taxes. I don't think that's
the point. The point is about submitting to the government
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and its authorities in obedience to God. So this is
one sided because the government who is taking your taxes,
they're taking the money out of your pocket off, they're
taking the food off of year table, they're taking the
shoes off your kids nubbins, and what are they doing
with it. They're blowing it, they're squandering it, they're turning
the frogs. Gay, We're gonna get into this USAID debacle.
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As I mentioned this, that kind of is what spurred
all of this anger and vitriol for me. So I'm
just gonna finish up with this. Might there come a
time when submission to the government means defiance of God?
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Yes?
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What then? Can we cross that bridge? And when we
get there, I will say this by the way of warning.
The most important questions at that juncture will be what
does obedience to God require of us? Many will jump
on this question, what shall be the manner of our
defiance of the government. The real, and frankly only question
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must be what shall be the manner of our obedience
to God? As you are already noting, those are very
very different, different questions, and they will lead to very
very different responses and outcomes. Okay, hold on, I need
to find my Bible real quick. Oh wow, Romans is
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so fast, I just blew right through it. I need
to find Romans twelve. I got my trusty read letter here. Okay,
Romans twelve. Therefore, I urge you brothers, in a view
of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices.
Is what the guy talked opened his little blog post
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about holy and pleasing to God. It is your spiritual
act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the
pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing
of your mind. Then you will be able to test
and approve what God's will is, His good, pleasing and
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perfect will I'm gonna skip ahead to relation to society.
Love must be sincere hate what is evil, cling to
what is good. This reminds me a couple episodes well,
I don't even remember how many episodes back, but we
were talking about evil generations, and I said, would we
even recognize that we're in an evil generation? And at
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the conclusion of that episode, my feeling was, yeah, we
would and we are. We were totally evil generation. Be
devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another
above ourselves. Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your
spiritual fervor serving the Lord. Joyful and hope, patient and affliction,
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faithful and prayer. Share with God's people who are in need.
Practice hospitality. Bless those who persecute you. Bless and do
not curse. Rejoice those who rejoice.
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Mourn with those who mourn.
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Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud,
but be willing to associate with people of low position.
Do not be conceded. Do not repay anyone evil for evil.
Be careful to do what is right in the eyes
of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it
depends on you, live in peace within everybody do not
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take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath,
for it has written in his mind to avenge, and
I will repay saith the Lord. On the contrary, your
enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give
him something to drink. In doing this, you will keep
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burning coals upon his head. To do not be overcome
by evil, but overcome evil with good. Oh jeez, Okay,
here we go, break time. I need to make a
shorter break noise, since they got to put more of
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these fucking things in here all the time.
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Americansecurityproject dot org.
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This article, it's called propaganda. So what? One hundred and
twelfth Congress, Second Session, Hr. Five seven three six to
amend the United States Information in the Education of nineteen
forty eight to authorize the domestic dissemination of material about
the United States intended primarily f fancies for other purposes propaganda.
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So what? Posted by Michael Wallen, May twenty three, twenty twelve.
So we're back in somewhat of a time machine. So
before I stepped out into the New Life Baptist Church
of Learry, Ohio with doctor Larry Solomon, pastor doctor Larry Solomon,
Here where we were talking about was the tinkering of
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the Smith Month Act, and I wanted to pick that
thread back up here after we talked about the sacredness
of our tax dollars. You know this, kid, it's similar
but different, right than like, you know, T Mobile, or
you know some company that you send a ton of
money to every month that you don't really get much
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in return for, say, insurance companies. Like I want to
know what State Farm does with this fucking amount of
money that I'm sending them Besides commercials, I don't They've
never helped me pay for anything anyhow. You know, what
are they spending their money? What are they spending that
money on? They're taking it from me? What are they doing?
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But I guess the free market's supposed to sort that out,
you know, I'm supposed to go to like Patriot Mobile
or something like this. Since the introduction of the Smith
Munt Modernization Act of twenty twelve as an amendment to
the National Defense Authorization Act of twenty thirteen, there has
been a surprising amount of attention to the fear of
the American public is being subjected to propaganda. The act
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would remove the restrictions currently in place that bans the
dissemination of government material produced for overseas consumption from being
made available to the American public. Let's ask a lot
of questions for a moment. Let's assume this is true
and assert that the American public will be subject to
the same propaganda as issued by the US government overseas.
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What is it exactly that we are worried about?
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What?
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Oh my god, what are we going to assume that
the messages we receive overseas are somehow unfit for the
American public? If so, why is that is the disinformation?
Is the information untrue? Well, it's a threat to our democracy.
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Didn't you hear the first bit of the show? If
it is untrue, then it's disinformation, and I don't want
that broadcast in my name, So let's fix it. Edward R. Murrow,
the often quoted father figure of the American public diplomacy
and first head of the US Information Agency, remarked on
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what makes good propaganda? Truth is the best propaganda, and
lies are the worst. Be it persuade? To be persuasive,
we must be believable to be believed, we must be credible.
To be credible, we must be truthful. It's as simple
as that. So what do you think is the government?
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Does it have any credibility? Does it have a shred
of credibility? Now, let's assume that the American public will
be able to access all the information of the United
States publishes for foreign consumption online. Actually, we don't need
to assume this because it's already true. Practically, any Google
search of an international or foreign policy generates results from
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Voice of America, which technically, under Smith Munt, Americans aren't
illegally aren't legally allowed to receive. It's essentially legally codified censorship.
In fact, I would agree that it's a violation of
the First Amendment. So you can already see this guy
is a crazy status. He doesn't understand the difference between
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a product and the First Amendment for the freedom of press.
It's clear he does understand this. He missed the sermon
that we just did that Larry's doctor pastor, doctor Larry
Solomon just did about the sacredness of your tax dollar
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as it restricts freedom of the press. See, it's not press,
it's propaganda foreigners. I mean, just think about this, Like,
what are we doing funding the BBC? Anybody, anybody what business.
Do we have funding the BBC? Oh I guess it's
just I guess we're just we're warriors for free speech.
Speaker 10 (37:36):
What a lot?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Uh, it's restricted freedom on the press. Foreigners can view it,
but Americans aren't allowed to. Smith Month smith Mont is outdated, ineffective, disabling,
and arguably unconstitutional. Okay, I'm done with this guy. I Uh,
I obviously didn't read this article before. I was like, yeah,
this looks good. Well, the point is is that they
The point is is that this is the attitude, or
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this was the attitude, right, So what why not let
the world's biggest, most ruthless intelligence agency, Why not let
them program us? This reminds me of a few years
ago before all the trans stuff. You know, there was
like a year and a half or two years where
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every fucking thing you looked at, every product you looked at,
had a unicorn on it. And I was like, man,
this is like weird. I probably even talked about it
on the show, and I'm like, what is this unicorn
programming all about? And the next thing you know, they're like, Hey,
we're chopping off your kid's nuts and making them.
Speaker 10 (38:42):
A little girl.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Hey, we're mutilating your daughter's breasts and turning her into
a boy. And you're like, I don't know, I don't
know what are you talking about? When is this? We're
gonna get into trance stuff here in a little bit.
And you know, truthfully, I haven't seen anything that broke
down unicorn symbolism to transgender ideology. But I believe it's
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right there. I believe it's right there. And I guess
I'll die on that hill. Making information really available propaganda
or not subjects it to more scrutiny and analysis directly
by the people who are paying for it in the
first place. So this was written in twenty twelve or
twenty thirteen, and in the light of what we now
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know about the Twitter files and about Zuckerberg and Facebook,
scrutiny and analysis directly by the people who are paying
for it in the first place isn't allowed to happen.
It's not allowed to happen. First of all, as we're
gonna find out, we don't even know about it. No
one even knew what the fuck usaid was, you know,
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until Elon rolled this fucking cyber truck in there and
was like, hey, let me audit your files, buddy, and
now look at this, but like, think about think about this,
think about the propaganda revolving around the COVID, the COVID event,
the COVID situation. Well, in this guy's case, in his mind,
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you know, twenty something years before it actually happened, he
was saying, you know, when these things are shown to us,
we can debate it, we can analyze it, we can
dissect it, and we can get to the truth of it.
Speaker 10 (40:33):
Wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I mean provably wrong. It's just wrong. We can't get
to the truth of it. We can't debate it and
we can't discuss it. Why because we're pop baby, We're
part of the problem, if not the entire problem. I'm
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back to. I don't know how much more of this
I can think. It creates more transparency and accountability and
eliminates the domestic media as an intermediary. Should we rely
completely on private media to decide what government produced information
we should or should not be issued. Yeah? Uh. If
you look at independent media space, you know these days,
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it's the only place you can go. It's the only
place you can go for transparency and accountability because there's
Dix and everything else. There's Dix and everything else. Every
other news outlet has a CIA, CIA Dix are all
in it. Should we rely completely on private media?
Speaker 10 (41:45):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Why should we let CNN or Fox News decide for us?
We don't anymore, we don't. I wish he would have
said MSNBC, because I'm pretty sure that's gone now, and
if all the airports turned off CNN, that would be
gone too. We're gonna find out that the government is
funding MSBC. We're gonna find out that the government is
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funding CNN. We're gonna find out that the government's funding everything,
and I mean everything, I believe, and I kind of
tip my hand to this, so I'll just blurt it
out now that I believe, by the end of this,
by the end of this next four years, we're gonna
find out that the government was funding woke Hollywood agenda.
I believe it's funding everything. I believe our tax money
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and the money they're running off these printing presses are
funding literally every fucking thing. Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, fucking Diddy,
everything shit we don't even know about yet. It's all
your money, it's all your sacred tax dollars being flushed,
not respected, being flushed down the toilet, using our own
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sacred tax money to hurt us along.
Speaker 7 (42:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Sure, it's totally normal to cut my daughter's tits off
into make our man's what are you talking about? That's normal,
don't you know? Don't you know? So I need to
We're gonna jump off into this other sort of thing.
Oh God, I'm sorry, we're gonna have to do this again.
I hate these breaks. I fucking hate them. Sprinkers stopped
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asking me for my input. So I just looked at
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the time and I realized that I'm already long, and
I'm not even halfway through the tabs that I chose.
I must have babbled way too much. So we're gonna
finish up this article. I'm gonna go ahead and dig ina.
I'm gonna go ahead and dig in. We're gonna finish this.
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I'll end with some thoughts and then there'll be a
part two. We'll just do a part two to this,
and I'll finish up the rest of it. It'll be
like a solid, straight through thread, though, So come back
next week. All right, So back to the American Security
Project dot org. This this article aged, by the way,
like a dead person like it aged awfully awfully. This
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guy should be a shame. If he's not ashamed, he
should actually he should feel a dreaded, colossal sense of naivety.
So we'll get back to we'll get back to this.
So again, let's assume that our foreign propaganda will be
made available for domestic consumption. And today's increasingly skeptical, informed,
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and interconnected society, who's to say that such propaganda could
be effectively used for nefarious purposes? This material should be
available for scrutiny. Again, it's it's not it's not a
war with one front. It's a war with many fronts
that we can't scrutinize it. We're not allowed to talk
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about it. We get shadow banded, we get canceled, we
get I don't know whatever they call. They have all
these fucking terms for I don't know. The algorithm buries you,
like the you know they say like the steps of
town hall, sidewalks and corners and publicly accessible places are
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traditional public forums. This is where you could stand there
and you can talk about whatever you want. Well, nowadays,
especially post COVID, I guess we don't go stand on
the steps of city hall anymore. We don't go stand
on sidewalks on corners in the town square with our
end as near signs. We log into Facebook and we
talk about we talk about it and what happens. Even
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though I've spoken about this, we have a whole thread
of shows on the bait techts, specifically Facebook and YouTube
and probably Twitter. We're all started with DARPA money. They
they they it was called techno censorship or something. I
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used to rail about it before I realize no one's
listened to me anyway, So go whatever. But there's no
traditional town forum, there's no traditional public forum anymore.
Speaker 10 (47:07):
So we go.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
You know, it's like that scene from Clerks to Maybe
is it Clerks Too? I don't remember. I hate I
don't like Kevin Smith movies anymore. Like he's totally went insane.
But the first couple ones were really good. But there's
the one where they were using the maybe it was
Jay and Silent Bob whatever one. But he's like he's
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arguing with like a paraplegic on like moviepoop shoot dot com,
that's what it was, and he's like, this guy's found
a way to reach out to a world that he's
isolated and cut off from. And you know, all you
could do is battle him and talk shit about him.
What a perfect metaphor for a current year. For a
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split moment, let's think about the example of the BBC,
which it turns out us AID was funding, which this
guy says, which is funded by the British government. It's
actually funded by the British government. But British people also
have to buy TV licenses, so they're actually paying for
it as as well. And that's also why everything looks
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like dog shit on the BC until Disney gets involved
Doctor Who. I'm looking at you. But here you go,
there's a perfect example. There is a perfect example. We're
gonna find out that the US government is funding the
woke agenda, the trans agenda, whatever however you want to
fucking put it, however you want to wrap up that
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fucking shitty, smelly package. You're gonna find out Disney gets
involved in it. What happens. I think we're funding Disney?
I would almost bet well saying that nowadays is not
it's gonna say, I would almost never mind. Where was
i BBC? I got thrown off because I used to
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love Doctor Who. I watched Doctor Who when I was
a kid. They used to play it again on PBS.
Here we go, all the dots are being connected. And
it was Tom Baker back then. It was in the
early eighties maybe, but they used to do like these
telethons and my parents would you know, we'd be over
one of their friend's house and they'd be getting a hammer,
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playing fucking Huno or whatever, and uh, I would be
like watching Old Doctor Who on the giant fucking like console,
fucking bookshelf size fucking TV in the living room. Anyhow,
what am I talking about? Oh yeah, BBC. For a
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split second, let's think about the example of the BBC,
which is funded by US and the British government and
the British people via their TV licenses. What if the
British weren't allowed to watch or listen to material created
by the BBC for international broadcasting. Doesn't that seem a
bit absurd? This whole argument is collapsing in knowing what
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we know now, right, Helen Dale of the Heritage Foundation
sinccincly lay lays what Helene Dale of the Heritage Foundation
succinctly lays argues against the All right, so there's grammatical
shits here, I'll fix it, hailed Hailey Dale of the
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Heritage Foundation ccincly lays out an argument against the irrational
fears of propaganda. Do you hear that? Have this guy
ever read nineteen eighty four? Read it once a year?
That's all that I'm saying. Critics have already voiced concerns
that this will open the floodgates of propaganda by the
US government. This is hardly likely, uh what. Indeed, access
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to programs and materials produced by the United States and
the BBG will allow Congress and the public better understanding
of what we are funding. Much of it high quality
journal which deserves support, and some programming could have a
positive impact on certain immigrant communities in the United States
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that are vulnerable to radicalization. As for programming and materials
that are controversial, questionable, or wasteful, doesn't the US public
deserve to know what is being published or broadcast in
its name? Yeah? Maybe if if we're consuming something that
was designed, implemented, and paid for by the seat by CIA.
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Maybe if there was like a little CIA logo on
the corner of the screen letting us know, letting us know,
and then we can you know, dissect and analyze and
discuss it in public forum. This is ridiculous. All this
is so fucking silly. This guy is so naive, even
back in twenty twelve, the fact of a manner that
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Americans are subjected to propaganda in a variety of forms.
Political campaigns are propaganda, duh, no, shit, Tourism ads are propaganda, yes.
Thomas Paine's common sense was propaganda, yes, but that was
good propaganda. Standing on the International Mall surrounded by monuments
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is propaganda? Which what is it that frightens us? Well,
I think it's this guy's point of view. Let's see
if there's any comments worth discussing here. Nope, nope, nothing
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worth talking about here anyhow. So I added this as
just a counter point, and just how just kind of
like a marker, like an anchor, so we could see
how much of shit was going on or about to
go on that we were just pointless to stop or
to do anything about. I remember when COVID first happened,
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I was sitting right here. I don't know if it
was this mic, but metaphorically it was this microphone. I'm
standing here beside the golden JMT microphone, and I was
saying to myself, they want us to sit in our
houses for two weeks. Americans are never gonna fucking do that,
and boy was I wrong. And my value system was
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collapsed during the first months March April, May June of
twenty twenty, it was crushed. I could not believe people
were just fucking sitting home. Here's how it happened, everybody,
Here's how it happened. My name is doctor John Towers,
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and this is the Abercast, and we're gonna pick this up.
There's gonna be a part two right after this, so
tune in next week. I don't know what the name
was gonna be at. I haven't came up with that.
I've been so fire up, man, I'm at fire up again,
Doctor John Towers, the Abercast. Is there anything else I
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