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In part 9 the final episode, we look at the drafting of the document that literally changed the world. It is hard for us today to imagine a document that was written in the 18th century in cursive that literally changed the entire world. But we have it have it here, in America. And we look at the system that ruled the world before and why a new way was needed! 

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In the dark shadows and in thewhite cold. Fearlessly we search for knowledge
new and old. We drink thestrong spirits and read the ancient tombs.
The order of the Abercast. Weare the brave and bold. We the

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people of the United States. Inorder to form a more perfect union,
establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility,provide for the common defense, and promote
the general welfare, and secure theblessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.

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Do ordain and establish this institution forthe United States of America. Big
episode, guys, Big fucking episode. The Abercasts Occult History, Conspiracy and

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Violence. Hey, welcome to theAbercast The American Sermon. I am your

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host, John Towers. The AmericanSermon, as you know, is a
spin off a limited series of myregular podcast called The Abercast, where we
talk about the occult history, conspiracyand violence. On this podcast, though,
we talk about the occult foundations ofthe United States. You know,

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think of it like a building.Well, we got some weird, offbeat,
sometimes sinister bullshit mixed in to thefoundation of our of our building.
So that's what we're doing here tonight. We're going to be talking about the
actual founding of the United States ofAmerica. So this is the last episode.

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It's been a it's been a funrun, got a squeezed some cool
content out, and I just wantto thank everybody for hanging along. And
I hope that you enjoy this episode, which I think is gonna wind up
being gigantic. So so here's here'sto you. Thank you so much for
supporting me and listening to the show. I hope you like it. And

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if you're subscribed, hang on tothat subscription, because even though the show
is gonna go dark for a littlea little bit, we're gonna do kind
of like a season two I think, but we'll change the topic a little
bit. I'm not sure. I'mtalking out of my ass about things that
I don't understand myself quite yet.Just hang on to the subscription. I

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don't think you'll be sorry. SoI want to start off featured books for
tonight. Obviously we're gonna be talkingabout the Constitution and of the United of
the United States. We're also gonnaget into common Sense by Thomas Paine,

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and we're gonna spend a lot oftime in uh, the Miracle that Changed
the World or the Five thousand yearleap by Secusin. I think that's how
you pronounce his name, Secusin.Anyhow, because it's I think it's gonna
be a long episode. I'm justgonna get I'm gonna write into it.

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We're gonna start out in Uh,we're gonna start out with Thomas Paine,
who's awesome. I've been I've beenrereading him for various reasons lately, and
uh, the the strength of thisdude's writing is is crazy. Anyhow,
we're gonna skip forward to chapter twobecause I want to kind of you know,

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uh why, I wrote a bookthat deals with this this topic as
well as a fucking comic book,but it's still it's a graphic novel.
It's a graphic novel called The AgeIs. And one of the themes in
The Ages is, you know,running away from tyranny until you know the

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United States has found I guess orwhatever. So chapter two here Pain talks
about monarchy and hereditary succession, andyou might be going, like, John,
monarchy and hereditary succession. I thoughtwe were talking about the founding of
the United States. So we're startingoff with the nonsensical, seemingly nonsensical way

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that it was before the United Stateswas invented. You know, it was
just a bunch of sweaty drunks thatwrote this fucking thing that changed the world.
Literally, so on a fuck apiece of paper change the world.
I think that's fascinating. So we'regonna go back to the way it was

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before, and we're gonna let ThomasPaine talk about the monarchy and hereditary succession.
Mankind being originally equals in the orderof creation, and equality could only
be destroyed by subsequent circumstance. Thedistinctions of rich and poor may in great

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measure be accounted for, and withouthaving recourse to the harsh, ill sounding
names of avarice and oppression. Depressionis most often the consequence, but seldom
or never means of riches. Althoughavarice will preserve a man from being necessitorily

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poor, it generally makes him tootimorous to be wealthy. But there is
another and greater distinction for which notruly natural or religious reason can be assigned,
and that is the distinction of meninto kings and subjects, male and
female, or the distinctions of naturegood and bad, the distinctions of heaven

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and how a race of men cameinto the world so exalted above the rest
and distinguished like some new species,is worth inquiring into, and whether they
are the means of happiness or miseryto mankind. In the early ages of
this world, according to scripture chronology, there were no kings, the consequence

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of which was there were no wars. It is the pride of kings which
throws mankind into confusion. Holland withouta king, Hath enjoyed more peace in
the last century than any other monarchicalgovernment in Europe. Antiquity favors the same

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remark for the quiet and rural lifelives of the first patriarchs, and the
happy something in them which vanishes whencome to the history of the Jewish royalty.
Governments by government by kings was firstintroduced into the world by Heathens,

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from whom the children of Israel copiedthe custom. It was the most prosperous
invention that ever, that was everset on foot. In the promotion of
idolatry. The heathen paid divine honorsto their deceased kings. In the Christian
world, Hath improved on the planby doing the same to their living ones.

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How impious is the title of sacredmajesty applied to a worm who,
in the midst of his splendor,is crumbling into dust. As the exalting
one man so greatly above the restcannot be justified on the equal rights of

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nature, So neither can it bedefended on the authority of scripture. For
the will of the Almighty is declaredby Gideon, and the prophet Samuel expressly
disapproves of the government by kings.All all anti monarchal monarchical parts of scripture

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have been very smoothly glossed over inmonarical monarchical governments. But they undoubtedly merit
the attention of countries which have theirgovernments yet to form. Render unto Caesar,
that things which are Caesar's is thescripture doctrine of the courts. Yet

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it is no support of monarical government, for the Jews at the time were
without a king and in a stateof vassalage to the Romans. Oh,
that's interesting. Near three thousand yearspassed away from the mosaic account of creation
until the Jews, under a nationaldelusion, requested a king. Wow,

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he's going for the neck. Tilltheir form of government was a kind of
republic administered by a judge. Thisis the book of judges, and the
elders of the tribe Kings, theyhad none, and it was held sinful

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to acknowledge any being under that titlebut the Lord of hosts. And when
a man seriously reflects on the idolatroushomage which was paid to the persons of
kings, he need not wonder thatthe Almighty, ever jealous of his honor,
should disap prove a form of governmentwhich is so impiously invades the prerogatives

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of heaven monarch. He is rankedin scripture as one of the sins of
the Jews, for which a cursefor which a curse is reserve is denounced
against them. The history of thistransaction is worth attending. To the children

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of Israel being opposed by the Midianites, Gideon marched against them with a small
army, and victory through the divineinterposition decided in his favor. The Jews
Elate with success, and attributing itto the generalship of Gideon, proposed making

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him a king, saying, rulethou over us, thou and thy son
and thy son's son. Here wastemptation to the fullest extent, not a
kingdom only, but a hereditary one. But Gideon, in piety over the
soul, replied, I will notrule over you, neither shall my son

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rule over you. The Lord shallrule over you. Words need not be
more explicit. Gideon doth not declinethe honor, but denieth the right to
give it. Neither doth he complimentthem with inventive declarations of his thanks.

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But the positive style style of profitcharges them with disaffection to their proper sovereign,
the King of Heaven. About onehundred years after this, they fell
again to the same error. Thehankering which the Jews had the idolatrous customs

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of the Heathens is something exceedingly unaccountable. But so it was that lying hold
of the misconduct of Samuel's two sons, who were trusted with some secular concerns,
and they came to be abrupt andclamorous manner to Samuel saying, behold

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them aren't old, and thy sonswalk not in thy ways, and now
make us a king to judge uslike all the other nations. And here
we cannot but observe that their motiveswere bad. They were they might be
like unto other nations, i e. The Heathens, where as their true

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glory lay in being as much unlikethem as possible. But the thing displeased
Samuel when they said, give usa king to judge us. And Samuel
prayed to the Lord, and theLord said, unto Samuel, harken unto
the voice of the people, andall that they say unto thee. For
they have not rejected thee, butthey have rejected me, that I should

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not reign over them. Can Iget an amen? According to all the
works which they have done since theday that I brought them up out of
Egypt, and even until the dayI didn't realize that this is still God
talking. Even until the day wherethey have forsaken me, they served other

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gods. So do they also now. Therefore, hearken unto the voice of
howbeit protests solemnly onto the show.And then the manner of the king that
shall reign over them, not ofany particular king, with his general manner

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of the kings in the earth,whom Israel was so eagerly copying after.
And withstanding the great distance of timeand difference of manners and character, is
still in fashion. And Solomon toldall the world of the lord, and
unto the people that asked the askof him a king, he said,

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this shall be the manner of theking that shall reign over you. He
will take your sons and appoint themfor himself. Can I get an amen?
He will his chariots and to behis horsemen, and some will run
before his chariots. And he,oh, will appoint captains over thousands,

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and captains over fifties, and willset them set them to ear his ground
and to reap his harvest, andto make his instruments of war, his
instruments of his chariots. And hewill take your daughters to be confectioneries,

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and to be cooks, and tobe bakers. This describes the expense in
the luxury as well as the oppressionof the kings. He's saying, Look,
if you get a cane here,he's gonna fucking take your ship and
make it his. He's gonna takeyour sons and your daughters, and hey,

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we'll take your fields and your ralof yards, and even the best
of them and give them to hisservants. And he will take a tenth
of your seed and of your vineyardsand give them to his officers and to
his servants, which we see thatbribery, corruption, and favoritism are the

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standing vices of these kings. Andhe will take a tenth of your men,
oh, your men servants, andyour maids servants, and your goodiest,
your goodliest young men, and yourasses, and put them to boy.
He's gonna put your asses the work, and he will take a tenth

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of your sheep, and he shallbe his servants. And ye shall cry
out in the day because of yourking, which ye shall have chosen,
and the Lord will not hear youin that day. This account is a
continuation of monarchy. Neither do thecharacteristics of the few good kings which have

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lived since either sanctify the title orblot out the sinfulness of the origin.
The high the high respect given toDavid takes no notice of him officially as
king, but only as a manafter God's own heart. Nevertheless, the

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people refuse to obey the voice ofSamuel, and they said, nay,
but we will have a king overus, and we may maybe like all
the nations, and that our kingmay judge us and go out before us
and fight our battles. Samuel continuedto reason with them, but to no

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purpose he set before them and theirgratitude, but all would not avail.
And seeing them fully bent on theirfolly, he cried out, I will
call unto the Lord, and heyshall send a thunder and rain, which
was a punishment, being in thetime of the wheat harvest, that ye

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may perceive and he that your wickednessis great ye have done in the sight
of the Lord in asking you asa king. So Samuel called unto the
Lord, and the Lord sent thunder, and he sent rain that day,
and all the people greatly feared theLord. And Samuel and all the people

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said, unto Samuel, pray formy servants, unto the Lord thy God,
that we die not for we have, for we have added unto our
sins this evil to ask a king. These these portions of scriptures are directed.

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Sorry, I'm trying to normalize mybreathing after all that yell, ranting,
and yelling. They admit no equivocalconstruction that the Almighty hath here entered
in protest against monarical government monarchical governmentsis true, or that the scripture is

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false. And man hath good reasonto believe that there is much in king
craft as priest and withholding the scripturefrom the public in popish countries, for
monarchy in every instance is the poperyof government. And this is interesting,
Like if you go back, orif you just remember in this podcast when

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we went back and we talked aboutthe Masonic rebellion, the Sons of Fire
and the Sons of Water and allthis in the priestly class and the kingly
class and Michael Zadek and all thatstuff. It's interesting to kind of pop
it back up here. The evilof monarchy we have added that of hereditary

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succession. And as the first isa degradation and lessening of ourselves, so
is the second. Claimer as amatter of right, is an insult and
imposition on posterity. For all menbeing originally equal, no one by birth
could have a right to set uphis own family and perpetual preference to all

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others, forever and ever amen.And though himself might deserve some decent degree
of honors for his contempt from hiscontemporaries, yet his descendants might be far
too unworthy to inherit them. Oneof the strongest natural proofs of folly of
hereditary right and kings is that naturedisapproves it, otherwise she would not so

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frequently turn it to ridicule by givingmankind an ass for a lion. Secondly,
as no man at first could possessmore public honors than were bestowed upon
him, so the givers of thesehonors could have no power to give away
the right of posterity. And thoughthey might say, we choose you for

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our head, they could not,without manifest injustice to their children, say
that your children and your children's childrenshall arraign over us forever and ever amen
by cause such as unwise, unjust, unnatural compact might in the next succession

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put them under the government of arogue or a fool. Most wise,
men in their privates sentiments have evertreated hereditary right with contempt. Yet it
is one of those evils which,once established, is not easily removed.
Many submit from fear, and othersfrom superstition, and the more powerful part

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shares with the king the plunder ofthe rest. This is supposing the present
race of kings in the world havehad honorable origins, Whereas it is more
than probable that could we take offthe dark covering of antiquity and trace them
to their first rise, we shouldfind the first of them nothing better than

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the principle ruffian, or some restlessgang whose savage manners or pre eminence in
subtlety obtained him the title of chiefamong the plunderers, and who, by
increasing in power and extending his depredations, outrawed the quiet and the defenseless to

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purchase their safety by frequent contributions.And yet his electors could have no idea
of giving hereditary rights to his descendants, because such perpetual exclusion of themselves was
incompatible with the free and unrestrained principlesthey professed to live by. Wherefore,

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heredity succession in the early ages ofmonarchy could not take place in the manner
of claim, but as something casualor complemental. But as few or no
records were existent in those days,the tradition history stuffed with fables, it

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was very easily, after the lastlap of a few generations, to trump
up some superstitious tale, conveniently timedMohammed like to cram hereditary rights down the
throats of the vulgar. Perhaps thedisorder which threatened or seemed to threaten on
the decease of the leader, andthe choice of a new one introduced many

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at first, Oh hold On introducedmany at first to favor hereditary pretensions,
by which means it happened as hathhappened since, and what at first was
submitted to as convenience was afterwards claimedby a right England. Since the conquest

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hath known some few good monarchs,but grown beneath a much larger number of
bad ones. Yet no man inhis senses can say that their claim under
William the Conqueror is a very honorableone. A French bastard landing with an
armed band teddy and establishing himself asthe king of England against the consent of

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the natives is a plane terms,very paltry, rascally original. It's certainly
hath no divinity in it. However, it is needless to it is needless
to spend much time in exposing thefolly of hereditary rights, for there are
any so weak as to believe it. Let them promiscuously worship the ass and

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the lion, and welcome. Ishall neither copy their humility or disturb their
devotion. Yet I should be gladto ask how they suppose kings came first?
The question emits, but of threeanswers, either by lot, by
election, or by usurpation. Ifthe first king was taken by lot,

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it establishes a precedent for the next, which excludes hereditary succession. Saul was
by lot, yet the succession wasnot hereditary, And neither does it appear
in the form of a transaction thatthere was any intention it ever should.
If the first king of any countrywas by election, that likewise establishes a

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president for the next. For tosay that the right of all future generations
is taken away by the act ofthe first election in their choice not only
be of a king, but ofa family of kings forever. Hath no
peril in or out of scripture,but of doctrine of original sin, which

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supposes the free will of all menlost in Adam, and from such comparisons,
and it will admit of no otherhereditary succession can derive no glory from
as in Adam all sin, andas in the first electors of men obeyed,

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as in the small the one smallmankind were subjected to satan and in
other words, to sovereignty, asourn as our innocence was lost at first,
and the authority in the last andas both disable us from reassuming uh

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some former state of prim it isunanswerably follows that the original sin and hereditary
succession are parallels, dishonorable rank ingloriousconnection. Yet the most subtle sophist cannot
produce a just or smile as tousurpation. No man will be so hardy

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as to defend it. And thatWilliam the Conqueror was a usurper is a
fact not to be contradicted. Aplain truth is that the antiquity of English
monarchy will not bear looking into.But it is not so much absurdity as
the evil of hereditary succession which concernsmankind. Did it ensure a race of

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good and wise men, you wouldhave the seal of a divine authority.
But as it opens the door tothe foolish and the wicked, or the
improper, it hath it in thenature of a Men who look upon themselves
born to reign and others to obey, soon grow insolent. Selected from the

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rest of mankind. Their minds areearly poisoned, are early poisoned by importance.
Boy, think about that in thisday and age and the world they
act in differs so materially from theworld at large, that they have but
little opportunity of knowing the true interests, and when they succeed to the government,

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are frequently the most ignorant and unfitof any throughout the dominions. Another
evil which attends hereditary succession is thatthe throne is subject to be possessed by
a miner at any age, allwhich time in regency, acting under the

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cover of a king that's insightful,have every opportunity and inducement to betray their
trust. The same national misfortune happenswhen a king is worn out with age
and infirmity and enters the last stagesof human weakness. In both these cases,

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the public become the prey to everymiscreant who can tamper successfully with the
follies of either age or infancy.The most plausible plea which hath ever been
offered in favor of hereditary succession isthat it preserves a nation from civil wars,
and where and where this true,it would be weighty. Whereas it

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is the most bare faced falsity everimposed upon mankind. The whole history of
England disowns the fact thirty kings andminers have reigned in that distracted kingdom since
the conquest, in which time therehas been, including the Revolution, no

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less than eight civil wars and nineteenrebellions. Wherefore, instead of making for
peace, it makes against it anddestroys the very foundation it seems to stand
upon. The contest for monarchy andsuccession between the houses of York and Lanister.

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This is the War of the Roses. This is what Game of Thrones
is based on. Stark and Iactually said York and Lanister, but it's
York and Lancaster, which in thebooks and the TV show is Stark in
Lanister. Okay laid England in ascene of blood. For many years,

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twelve pitched battles besides skirmishes and siegeswere fought between Henry and Edward Toys Henry
prisoner to Edward, who was inturn prisoner to Henry. And also uncertain
is the fate of the war andthe temper of the nations, when nothing
but personal matters are on the groundof a quarrel that Henry was taken in

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the triumph of a prison to apalace and Edward obliged to fly from a
palace to a foreign land. Yetas sudden transitions from of temper are seldom
lasting. Henry, in his turn, was driven from the throne, and
Edward recalled to succeed him, theParliament always following the strongest side. This

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contest began in the reign of Henrythe sixth and was not entirely extinguished until
Henry the seventh, in whom thefamilies were united, including a period of
sixty seven years from fourteen twenty twoto fourteen eighty nine. In short,
monarchy and succession have laid But theworld in blood and ashes.'tis a

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form of government which the word ofGod bears testimony against, and the blood
will attend it. If we inquireinto the business of a king, and
we shall find that, after saunteringaway their lives without pleasure to themselves or
the advantage of a nation, theywithdrew from the scene, and they leave

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their successors to tread the same uselessand idle ground. In absolute monarchies,
the whole weight of business, civil, and military lie in the king.
The children of Israel, and theirrequest for a king is urged in the
plea that he may judge us andgo out before us and fight our battles.

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But in countries where he is neithera judge nor a general, as
in England, the man would bepuzzled to know what his business? What
is his business? The nearer anygovernment approaches to a republic, the less

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business there is for a king.It is somewhat difficult to find a proper
name for the government of England.Sir William Meredith calls it a republic,
but in its present state is unworthyof the name, because the corrupt influence
of the Crown, by having allthe places at its disposal, hath so

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effectually swallowed up the power and eatenout whoa this is Dirry all of a
sudden hath so effectually swallowed up thepower and eaten out the virtue of the
House of Commons. That the governmentof England is nearly a monarchical as that

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of France or Spain. Men fallout with names without understanding them, for
it is the republican and not themonarchical part of the Constitution of England which
English me Glorian. And it iseasy to see what to see that when

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republican virtues fail, slavery ensues,and when the Constitution of England is sickly,
but because the monarchy hath poisoned therepublic, the crown hath engrossed in
commons. In England, a kinghath little more to do than make war
and give away places, which inplain terms is to impoverish the nation and

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set it together by the ears.A pretty business. Indeed, for a
man to be allowed eight hundred thousandsterlings a year and be worshiped into the
bargain for more worth is one honestman to society and the sight of God,
all than all of the crowned Ruffiansthat ever lived. All right,

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now we're gonna flip over to thefive thousand year Leap, and I mean,
boy, how how this book isextremely powerful. It's a very interesting
book. We're just gonna jump inhere where he's talking about the structuring of

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the government, and this portion iscalled the founder Struggle to establish People's Law
in the Balance center, and thenwe're gonna go ahead and talk a little
bit more about this, about thebat, about this balance and the Federalist
papers. Number nine, Hamilton refersto the sensations of horror and disgust which

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arise from a person study of thehistory, the histories of those nations that
are always in a state of perpetualvibration between the extremes of tyranny and anarchy.
Washington also refers to the human strugglewherein there is a natural and necessary

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progression from the extreme of anarchy andthe extremism of tyranny. Franklin noted that
there is a natural inclination in mankind to kingly government. He said,
it gives people the illusion that somehowa king will establish equality among citizens in

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that they like. Franklin's great fearwas that the United States would succumb to
the gravitational pull towards a strong andcentral government. His fear was a strong
and central government symbolized by a royalestablishment, and he said, I am

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apprehensive, therefore, perhaps too apprehensive, that the government of these states may
in future times end in monarchy.But this catastrophe, I think may be
long delayed if our proposed system wedo not sow the seeds of contention,
faction, and tumult by making ourposts of honor places of profit. The

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Founder's task was to somehow solve theenigma of the human tendency to rush headlong
from anarchy to tyranny, the verything which later happened in the French Revolution.
How could the American people be constitutionallystructured so that they would take a
fixed position at the balance center ofthe political spectrum and forever maintain a government

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for the people and buy the people. A government of the people, by
the people, and for the people, I should have said, which would
not irish from this earth. Ittook the Founding Fathers one hundred and eighty
years, that is, from sixteenoh seven to seventeen eighty seven to come

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up with their American formula. Infact, just eleven years before their famous
constitutional convention at Philadelphia, the Founderswrote a constitution which almost caused them to
lose the Revolutionary War. Their firstattempt at a constitution constitutional writing was called
the Articles of Confederation, which Ialso have here. This chapter is called

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the Founder's First Constitution ends up tooclose to anarchy. The American Revolutionary War
did not commence as a war forindependence, but it was originally designed merely
to protect the rights of the peoplefrom the arrogant oppression of a tyrant,
fucking king. Nevertheless, by thespring of seventeen seventy six, it was

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becoming apparent that a complete separation wasthe only solution, and rightly so,
I would add. It is interestingthat even before the declaration of independence,
the Congressional Congress appointed a committee onJune eleventh, seventeen seventy six to write
a constitution. John Dickinson served asthe chairman of the committee and wrote a

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draft based on a proposal made byBenjamin Franklin in seventeen seventy five. However,
the States felt that dickinson so calledArticles of Confederation gave too much power
to the central government. They thereforehacked away at the draft until November fifteenth,
seventeen seventy seven, when they proclaimedthat the new central government would have

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no power. The new central governmentwould have no powers whatsoever except expressly authorized
by the state that the States didnot expressly authorize much of anything. Under
the Articles of Confederation as finally adopted, there was no executive, no judiciary,

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no taxing powers, and no enforcementpowers. The National government ended up
being a little bit more than ageneral committee of the States. It made
recommendations to the states, and theyprayed they would respond favorably. Very often
they did not. The founder's politicalspectrum on the Articles of Confederation would appear

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as more towards no law than towardsthe tyranny of the ruler's law. The
suffering and death of Valley Forge andMorristown were unforgetting bull demonstrations of the abject
weakness of the central government and itsill ability, its inability to provide food,

(43:07):
clothing, equipment, and manpower forthe war. Valley Forge, the
common fare for six weeks was flour, water and salt mixed together and baked
in a skillet fire cakes. Theywere called out. Of approximately eight thousand

(43:27):
soldiers, around three thousand abandoned GeneralWashington and went home. Approximately two hundred
officers resigned their commissions. Over twothousand soldiers died of starvation and disease.
Washington attributed this near disaster at ValleyForge to constitutional weakness of the central government
under the Articles of Confederation. Thiswe're moving into a section called the General

(43:54):
the genius of Constitutional Convention of seventeeneighty seven. So imagine these dudes,
like I said, a bunch ofdirty drunks with wigs. It sounds like
a drag Queen Bengo night. Butlike they're sitting here, they're trying to

(44:16):
figure out this new kind of formof government that is going to change the
world, and it's going to bewritten in a document. One thing fighting
thousands of years of monarchies and thisthe suicidal traditions of following these familial lines

(44:38):
and all of this stuff. This, I mean, it's it is something
wonderful. It is something wonderful.It's so marginalized today. You know,
old dead white men, these oldthat white men thought about some shit,

(45:01):
like they had some fucking shit tothink about. Not one of the founding
fathers could have come up with themuch needed constitutional formula by himself, and
the delegates who attended the conventions knewit. At that very moment, the
States were bitterly divided. The Continentaldollar was inflated almost out of existence,

(45:31):
the economy was deeply depressed, andrioty had broken out. New England had
threatened to secede in Both England andSpain were standing close by, ready to
snatch up the Disunited States. Theirfirst opportunity writing a constitution under these circumstances

(45:53):
was a frightening experience. None ofthe delegates had had expected the convention to
require four tedious months. In fact, within a few weeks, many of
the delegates, including James Madison,we're living on borrowed funds. From the
opening day of the convention, itwas known that the brainstorming discussions would require

(46:15):
frequent shifting of positions and changing ofminds. For this reason, the convention
debates were held in secret to avoidpublic embarrassment. As the delegates made concessions,
reverse their earlier positions, and movedgradually towards some sort of agreement.
The special device employed to encourage opendiscussion. So I'm including this today because

(46:43):
I think it's something that we allneed. I think this is a something
we all need today in this worldof techno censorship and block buttons. We
all need to be able to openourselves up to differing ideas and have the
inn life, actual intelligence, andhonesty to change our minds instead of trying

(47:06):
to hit people with bike chains orwhatever. To encourage the delegates to freely
express themselves without the use of formalitiesof a convention, the majority of the
discussions were committed in what they calledthe Committee of the Whole, not whole,
like a not a whole, butof the whole the whole. This

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committee consisted of the members of theconvention, but as a committee decisions were
always tentative and never binding in thesame way that they would have been if
voted upon by the Convention. Onlyafter thorough ventilating of the issues would the
Committee of the Whole turn themselves backinto a sitting of the Convention and formally

(47:53):
approve what they had just discussed inthe committee. It's brilliant. It's basic.
Like a sandbox, you know.It's like, now we're moving into
the sandbox mode, so we canfigure all of our little where our little
tanks and stuff are going to be, where your position is, where your
little foxholes are going to be.And then once it's all prepared and positioned,

(48:15):
then we step out of the sandboxand into the real world. I
think that's I think it's fascinating.The object of the Founders was to seek
a consensus, or a general agreementon what the Constitution should provide. After
four months of debate, they wereable to reach a general agreement on just

(48:37):
about everything except the issue of slavery, proportionate representation, and the regulation of
commerce. All three of these issueshad to be settled by a compromise.
Imagine if these guys had to fightthe Civil War and the Revolutionary War all
the fucking same time. It isa mistake, however, to describe the

(48:58):
rest of the Constitution a conglomerate ofcompromises, because extreme patients was used to
bring the mind of the delegates intoagreement rather than to simply force the issue
of finality with the compromise. Thisis demonstrated by the fact that over sixty
ballots were taken before they resolved theissue of how to elect to the president.

(49:19):
They could have let the matter lieafter the first ballot, but they
did not. They were anxious totalk it out until the vast majority felt
good about the arrangement. That iswhy it took sixty ballots to resolve the
matter. When the founders had finishedtheir work on September seventeenth, seventeen eighty
seven, President Washington attached a letterto the signed draft and set it to

(49:45):
Congress. The Congress ratified the Constitutionwithout any changes and sent it to the
states. When several of the largerstates threatened to reject the Constitution, they
were invited to ratify them body ofthe Constitution, but attached suggested amendments.
They submitted one hundred and eighty nineof these amendments. At the first session

(50:09):
of Congress. These suggested amendments werereduced to twelve by James Madison, and
ten of them were finally approved andratified by the United States, and thus
born America's famous Bill of Rights.Now we're gonna talk about nowadays, in

(50:29):
our political spectrum, we have kindof three positions, five maybe five maybe
five positions. We have center,then we have the left and the right,
and then we have the far leftand the far right. So we're

(50:50):
gonna talk a little bit about thisbook. I should say, the five
thousand year Leap is going to talka little bit about the balance center.
And again I'm including this because Ithink it's something that I think it's something
we could learn something from today.Here was a polemic process by which the

(51:22):
founders struggled to get the American Eaglefirmly planted in the balance center of the
political spectrum. Madison later described thedivision of labor between the states and the
federal government as follows. The powersdelegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal

(51:44):
government are few and defined. Thosewhich are to remain in the state governments
are numerous and indefinite. The poweris reserved to the several states, will
extend to all objects which are inordinary course of affairs concerned the lives,
liberty, and properties of the peopleand the internal order, improvement on the

(52:07):
posterity of the state. The fixingof the American Eagle in the center of
the spectrum was designed to maintain thispolitical equilibrium between the people and the states
and the federal government. The ideawas to keep the power based close to
the people an emphasize the emphasis wason strong local self government. This is

(52:34):
all backwards nowadays, This is allfucking inverted. Nowadays. The states would
be responsible for internal affairs, andthe federal government would confine itself to those
areas which could not fairly or effectivelybe handled by individual states. This made
the Founder's political spectrum basically boy,I don't know how to describe this in

(52:57):
the middle. I mean the ruler'slaw between tyranny and anarchy. The people's
law is right in the middle,with all the state's governments underneath it,
and then the county governments, andthen the township governments, and then ultimately
the families. America's three headed eagle. Although paulbus, John Locke, and

(53:23):
Baron Charles D. Montesque All hadadvocated the separation of government functions into three
departments legislative, executive, and judicial. The American Founders were the first to
carefully structure what might be described asthe three headed eagle. The central head

(53:47):
was the law making or legislative function, with two eyes the House of the
Senate, and these the House andthe Senate, and these both see both
see eyed eye on any piece oflegislation before can become a law. The
second head was the administrative or theexecutive department, with the authority centered in

(54:08):
a single strong president operating with aclearly defined framework of limited power. And
the third head was the judiciary,which was assigned to a task of acting
as guardian of the Constitution HA andthe interpretation of its principles as originally designed

(54:30):
by these founders. The genius ofthe three headed eagle was not only the
separation of powers, but the factthat all three heads operated through a single
neck. By this means, thefounders carefully integrated these three departments so that
each one was coordinated with the otherand could not function independently of them.

(54:54):
It was an ingeniously structured pattern ofpolitical power which might be described as a
coordination without consolidation. Now, let'stalk about the two wings of the eagle.
The two wings of the eagle,the founder's view of their new form

(55:15):
of government can be further demonstrated bythe use of the symbol of the egle
and referring to its two wings,the problem solving wing and the conservation wing.
Wing number one of the eagle mightbe referred to as the problem solving

(55:35):
wing or the wing of compassion.Those who function through the dimension of the
system are sensitive to the unfulfilled needsof the people, and they dream of
elaborate plans to solve these problems.Wing number two has the responsibility of conservative

(56:00):
the nation's resources and the people's freedom. Its function is to analyze the programs
of Wing one with two questions,First, can we afford it? Secondly,
what will it do to the rightsand the individual freedom of these people?
Now, if both of these wingsfulfill their assigned functions, then American

(56:21):
Eagle will fly straighter and higher thanany civilization in the history of the world.
But if either of these wings goesto sleep on the job, the
American Egle will drift towards anarchy ortyranny. The example, if Wing number
one becomes infatuated with the idea ofsolving all of the problems of the nation

(56:46):
regardless of costs, and Wing numbertwo fails to bring its power into play
to sober the problem solvers with amore realistic approach, the egle will spin
off towards the left, which istyranny we're On the other hand, if

(57:06):
the wing number one falls in tothe problem which needs solving and Wing number
two becomes inflexible in its course ofnot solving problems simply to save money or
to distribute the status quo, thenthe machinery of government loses its credibility and
the eagle drifts over towards the right, where people decide to take matters into

(57:28):
their own hands like Batman. Thiscan eventually disintegrate into anarchy. Thomas Jefferson
describes this need for balance. WhenJefferson became president, he used his first

(57:52):
inaugural address to describe the need tomake room for the problem solving wing to
which his own Democratic Republican Party belonged, and also to make room for the
conservation wing, which the Federalist Partyof John Adams belonged. He tried to

(58:15):
stress the fact that all Americans shouldhave some elements of both of these party
dimensions in there thinking good night,that's it. I'm done. This has
been the American sermon. Thank youeverybody. In his inaugural address, he

(58:36):
said, we have called different namesbrethren of all the same principle. We
are all Republicans and we are allFederalists. So in today's parlance it would
be we are all Democrats and weare all Republicans. I mean, I
think that I could just stop there, but I mean, this is the

(58:59):
last episode, so maybe I'll keepgoing the problem of political extremists. Nevertheless,
Jefferson saw fringe elements of both ofthese parties what I called earlier the
far left of the far right.The Federalist Party were those who would pull
the Eagle away from its balance centertowards the tyrannical left and form a central

(59:24):
government so strong it would border ona monarchy. Considering the monarchist fringe of
the Federalist Party, he wrote,I've spoken, I've spoken to the Federalists
as if they were homogeneous body.But this is not the truth. Under

(59:45):
that name lurks the heretical sect ofmonarchists afraid to wear their own name and
creep under the mantle of federalism,and that federalism, like sheep, permit
the fox to take shell among themwhen pursued by dogs. These men have

(01:00:06):
no right to office. If amonarchist be in office, whereas or anywhere
to be known to the President,the oath he has taken to support the
Constitution imperiously requires the instantaneous dismissal ofsuch officer. And I hold the President

(01:00:27):
criminal if he permitted such to remain. To appoint a monarchist to conduct the
affairs of a republic is like appointingan atheist to priesthood. All this is
very relevant right now today in thisworld. As to the real federalists,
I take them in my bosom asbrothers, and I view them as honest

(01:00:50):
men, friends, and to thepresent constitution. So Jefferson had a conversation
with Washington. Jefferson Jefferson's Conversation withWashington. Jefferson reports a conversation with President

(01:01:13):
Washington in August seventeen ninety three,in which Jefferson expressed it deep concern that
some elements of the presidential administration werepushing towards oppressive monarchical type of powers.
Washington did act as a tyrant ina few areas. In the part of

(01:01:37):
the universe that I live in,there was a whiskey rebellion at one point
in time where he fucking sent thefederal He sent the fucking army down to
Pennsylvania to to get I guess,Moonshiner, to give people that made whiskey

(01:02:00):
to pay their fucking taxes. ThePresident immediately responded that a republican principle must
be maintained and that the constitution wehave is an excellent one if we can
keep it where it is. Withreference to the possibility of a money arch
monarchical party arising, President Washington statedthat there was not a man in the

(01:02:27):
United States who would set his facemore decidedly against it than himself. Jefferson
nevertheless pointed out to the President thatthere does not a week pass in which
we cannot imagine speaking like this.I'm managed having to talk like this like
in your everyday life. There doesnot pass a week in which we cannot

(01:02:47):
prove declarations dropping from the mon I'mtired of not being able to pronounce this
monarch archical, monarchical party. Thebrands. The administration was pushing for the
central government the massive powers, andsaying, our government is good for nothing

(01:03:07):
as a milk and a water thingwhich cannot support itself. We must knock
it down and set up something more, set up something of more energy.
And Washington replied that if any wereguilty of such nonsense, it would be
a quote proof of their insanity.Ut oh boy, all right, we're

(01:03:37):
gonna skip ahead here. The Founderswarn against the drift towards the collectivists left,

(01:04:03):
since the genius of the American systemis maintaining the eagle in the balance
center of the spectrum, which theFounders warned against, and a number of
temptations which might lure subsequent generations toabandon their freedoms and their rights by subjecting
themselves to a strong federal administration operatingon the collectivists left. They warned against

(01:04:28):
the welfare state, where their governmentendeavors would take care of everyone from the
cradle to the grave. Jefferson,in fact, wrote, if we can
prevent the government from wasting the laborsof people under the pretense of taking care
of them, they must become happy. They warned against confiscatory taxation, and

(01:04:53):
deficit spending, and Jefferson said itwas immoral for one generation to pass us
on the results of extravagance in theform of debts to the next generation.
He wrote, quote, we shallall consider ourselves unauthorized to saddle posterity with

(01:05:14):
our debts, the moral bound topay them ourselves, and consequently, within
what may be determined the period ofa generation or a life of the majority
unquote, every generation of Americans struggledto pay off the national debt up until
the present one. I think we'vegiven up on it now. Literally,

(01:05:36):
I think we've given up on it. I don't think no one pays attention
to it at all. It's justthat clicker on Fox in the background of
Fox News that goes up by millionsof dollars every fucking minute. Now,
every generation of Americans struggled. Oh, I already said that. The Founders
also warned that the only way forthe for the nation to prosper was to

(01:06:00):
have equal protection of rights. Thisis very important and not allowed the government
to get involved in trying to provideequal distribution of things. They also warned
against the pulling of property, asadvocated by the proposement of communism, Samuel

(01:06:23):
Adams said, done everything possible andmake the idea of socialism and communism unconstitutional.
Said he, The utopian schemes ofleveling, redistribution of the wealth and
community of goods, central ownership bythe means of production and distribution are as

(01:06:45):
visionary and impractical as those which vestall property in the crown. These ideas
are arbitrary, despotic, and ourgovernment, our government un constitutional. And
we got it. We're gonna doone last thing because this is something we

(01:07:05):
need. All of these things,but this is something that we need.
We need an enlightened electorate to preventthe American eagle from tipping towards anarchy on
the right or tyranny on the left, and to see that American system remain
in a firm, fixed position inthe balance center the political spectrum. The

(01:07:26):
Founders campaigned for a strong program ofwidespread education. We have education. It
is widespread. Well, we havean institution that is widespread. The verdict
that is out is if it's educationanymore, I would argue that it's not.

(01:07:47):
Channels were needed through which the Foundersand other leaders could develop and maintain
an intelligent, informed electorate. Jeffersonhammered home the necessity for an educator electorate
on numerous occasions. Here are somesamples. If a nation expects to be
ignorant and free in a state ofcivilization, it expects that it expects what

(01:08:12):
never was and never will be.Another instance, no other sure foundation can
be devised for the preservation of freedomand happiness. Preach a crusade against ignorance,
establish and improve the law for educatingcommon people, and let our countrymen

(01:08:34):
know that the people alone can protectus against these evils of misgovernment. What
the founders really wanted was a statementof educational communication through which they could transfer
their great body of fundamental belief basedon self evident truths. They knew they

(01:08:57):
had made a great discovery, andthey had wanted their posterity to maintain it.
As Madison said, it is somethingwhich quote, it is incumbent on
the successors to improve and perpetuate unquote. So my question is is are we
doing that? Are we preserving andperpetuating this idea? Are we still looking

(01:09:19):
for an enlightened electorate? I don'tknow, man. I look at YouTube.
I watch YouTube all the time,and I always see like the man
on the street interviews where they're justinterviewing just idiots, and you could say,
well, like, well, theycould tell who's not gonna be able

(01:09:41):
to know who Joe Biden is?Really, I don't know, can they?
I'm not sure? But who's toblame for that? Who's to blame
that they don't know who fucking JoeBiden is or whoever who's the vice president
of the United States. A lotof people don't know, a lot of
people don't fucking know, And you'relike, well, you could tell which

(01:10:02):
ones are gonna know, and it'sjust all clickbait and they're like going for
it, and I'm like, I'mnot sure about that. I'm not sure
about that. One of my majordriving sort of ideas like for the show
is that the fact that people don'tread anymore. I saw this thing,
like I hate Jimmy Kimball, butI saw this thing where he sent a

(01:10:27):
man on the street and he waslike, can you what's the last book
you read? If people can't nameit? And they're like, what's a
movie based on a book? Andpeople can't name one? Like the fucking
Bible, Like people can't fucking justdo like do it and that scares the
fuck out of me. It scaresthe shit out of me. You know,

(01:10:48):
we're living in the age of factoids, and it drives me fucking crazy.
It does. It drives me,god damn fucking crazy. We're surrounded
by books. We uh, wehave access to every written page of every
book ever on our fucking phones.But people are just still watching three minute

(01:11:16):
fucking CNN videos on YouTube and thinkingthat they're informed or enlightened. As an
electorate, I don't know. Ididn't want the last words that I said
on this this podcast to be negative, but uh, I guess I'm in
a low place right now. Anyhow, maybe I'll do like a bonus episode

(01:11:44):
or something. I've been wanting totry to figure out a place to put
fascism in America, a Fascism inAmerica episode. Maybe I'll do something like
that on this thing. So butuh, you know, I did three
zero episodes. Maybe I could doif you uh post post episodes. I
don't know anyhow, I'm John Towers. Thank you guys for listening to all

(01:12:08):
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you know, I shed some lighton something or uh, showed you,
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