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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:18):
All right, welcome to the Abercast. I'm your host, doctor
John Towers. I'll be here with you for the duration
this evening, and we're gonna be picking up where we
left off with our last episode. I wasn't planning on
doing a bonus episode.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
This is only my third week back.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Really, like I can't just get right back into doing
three episodes a week. But we are gonna pick it up.
Like I said, things are happening so goddamn fast. I can't,
you know, stick with my boundaries and make the shows
that I that I feel like I need to make.
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So we're gonna have to do like a bonus episode.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So come, I don't know, d.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Day, probably, and we'll just get it out of the
way so we can move on, you know, to the
you know, not the important stuff like this is vitally important.
Like this might be kind of a joke, but it's
a really serious joke, Like we're talking about how a
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country went from in nineteen ninety seven, they were the
third or second or first richest country in South America
to complete in total collapse by current peers. Serious, and
if you're forward looking a little, or you have the
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right kind of reading glasses on and the lenses are
all clean, and maybe you got a good buzz going,
you can look into current events here in this country
and see direct correlations almost the same fucking exact thing.
And I'm not being hyperbolizing. I'm not hyperbolizing.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Anyhow.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
As always, I do have my vessel of the art
with my weapon of mass distraction, the GINGI had mixed
up in it. So it's right here, it's ready to go.
Spoiler alert or you know, a little inside baseball.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
This is the same as a last episode.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I'm just I'm just keeping recording, just doing a whole
new episode. So we're gonna just pick up exactly right
where we left off. I'm in my same level of
inebriation and stoniness, and all the articles are still lined.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Up and ready to go. We're just gonna get to them.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So without being said, let's uh, let's start this evening's
meeting out.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
With a toast. Quiet here, No, let's do a lot.
We'll do a toast. We'll say, here's the swimming with
bull legged women? So where were we at? What's wrong
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with this thing? All right? Good, all right, we're back up.
We're back up. No need to panic everybody. We're back
up and running.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, So where we just let me get us all
up to speed here with our timeline. Nineteen ninety two,
Venezuela became a third British country in South America in
their hemisphere. In nineteen ninety seven, Interesting Factory for the
Evening became the second largest purchasers of Ford F one fifties.
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Two thousand and one, they voted for Lieutenant Colonel Hugo Chavez,
who was a socialist president, and his platform was income inequality.
So his platform was income inequality, and look what he
did to his country. I mean, it's it's amazing. Two
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thousand and four. Private healthcare is completely socialized. And our
big topic of conversation last week, I think was the
Supreme Court was being packed.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
All higher education becomes quote free unquote. Two thousand and nine.
Socialist banned private ownership of guns except government sanctioned militias
called collectivos, and we're gonna this evening.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
One of the one of the.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Articles we're gonna read is about why the ramifications of
this happening. A socialist banning private ownership of guns leads
to some pretty horrendous stuff, as probably it always does.
Twenty twelve, Bernie Sanders praises Venezuela for their quote American Dream, stating,
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these days the American dream is more apt to be
realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela,
and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than
they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who is
the Banana Republic now the peace states Indeed, Bernie Sanders,
who is the banan or republing?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I had something to say about this, but I don't
remember what it is. So anyhow, Bernie Sanders is just
you know, he's just a loser, you know, like, fuck
this guy and all this. Maybe I wanted to say
something about Horatio Alger. Right, twenty fourteen opposition leaders are
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in prison. We did that. Twenty sixteen. Food health care
shortages become widespread, so we didn't really talk about the
healthcare shortages specifically, but we didn't talk about food shortages.
And I did kind of go on this little tirade
or rant about just long term food storage. But you know,
there's a bunch of stuff that I failed to say. Like,
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you know, water storage is probably even more important than
food storage. And water storage is very difficult because it
is very bulky, it takes up a lot of space
and it's heavy. But again, just like with the long
term food storage or the emergency food situation, you should
do these things in layers, right, A couple of cases
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of bottle water, maybe some bricks of water set aside,
you know, cool dark place covered up, have a rain
catchment system maybe in place. Remember the crates I was
telling you, like the military storage crates, and I said,
have one for the bathroom and have one for water.
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You know, the water should have water filtration, water collection,
which means, you know, one of those emergence see bathroom
bathtub water bladders. I think they were originally used for
or are used for hurricane situations, but you know, you
should probably have one. They're not very expensive. Filter water filters,
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you know, zero Water or Burkey's or whatever you got.
You know, you should have have all of that, you know. Also,
another thing that I forgot to mention, you know, is
medical stuff. That's another thing that I struggle for because
you know, I've never been really shy about, you know,
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the mental problems and stuff. Specifically, my wife is on
a bunch of different like psych meds and everything, and
I have blood pressure problems. Can you believe that a
fucking I blood pressure and problem?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Anyhow?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Uh So, getting the medicine and stuff is one of
my like week weak spots right now. I'm working on it.
I have a plan. It's just expensive to get, you know, medicine.
That's just the way it is, okay, God damn it. Oh, bullets,
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band aids, food long term food storage, and bullets. You know,
should maybe have at least a gun in the house,
if not multiple, and maybe one or two in the car,
and you know, maybe one or two you know, buried
in a.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Secret location somewhere.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And the bullets for all that, bullets for all that stuff.
Think about your pets, you know, have some food. Have
some food for your pets, you know, if you're not
playing on feeding them, you know, scraps and and all
that stuff. And medical supplies.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Have get.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Uh, there's a couple of really great books off the grid.
So off the grid, what's the fucking called? God damn it,
I'm gonna have to go. I'm gonna have run upstairs
and find it. It's a survival medicine handbook.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Get a couple. I mean, you don't. I guess you
don't have to.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I didn't like buy mine outright, I've assembled them. Blowout kits,
chest compression or chest seals, Israeli bandages, bleeds, stop stuff.
You know, if you're interested in that, I mean, let
me know, and maybe I can do sort of the
same thing with the book of packing list or whatever. Anyhow,
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I feel like I gotta get into we gotta go,
we gotta go.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Are we gonna go? Let's go, I gotta go. Let's
fucking go.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Venezuela's High Court dissolves the Nash Assembly March thirtieth, twenty seventeen.
We're going to get into this article on the other side. Yeah, Well,
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when I left the Army, I stole my combat lifesaver bag.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I mean, this.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Bag is fantastic and like the only thing that I
can't really get.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
And I'm like looking at.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
That company, that medical supply company is I'm having a
hard time getting saline with the ivy needles. I'm having
a real hard time. But I got like surgical kits,
dental fucking dental self cared like dental kits. You know,
splints just what, I don't know whatever. It's where you
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separate the men from the boys, the surgical kits and
dental kids, picks and merrors and stabby things. So this
is from CNN. It's called Venezuela's High Court dissolves National
Assembly March thirtieth, twenty seventeen in a surprising move. Only
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they're surprised. I bet CNN is the only people that
were surprised about this. In a surprising move. In a
surprising move, the Venezuelan opposition is calling a coup. The
Venezuelan Supreme Court has stripped the trees National Assembly of
its powers. They the court ruled that all powers vested
under the legislative body will be transferred to the Supreme Court,
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which is stacked with government loyalists and probably too many people.
They need to find stuff for all these fucking judges
and the reserve judges.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
This is this is that.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Moment in the in a new hope in the original
Star Wars movie where Grand Moth Tarkan comes into the
boardroom and he's like, the Emperor has you know, uh
got rid of the Galactic Senate And they're like, how,
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like how are they gonna rule all these systems? And
they're like, ah, the governors in charge of each system
will rule, you know, by fucking terror and death stars.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
It was the idea, I think, But that's what just happened.
That's the story. That's what just happened. In Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
The ruling effectively means that three branches of the of
the Venezuelan government will be controlled by the ruling United
Socialist Party. The opposition has been taken out of the picture.
Prominent opposition leaders are already calling the government of President
Nicholas Maduro quote dictatorship, unquote Nicholas Maduro stage accuda. TA
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National Assembly president Julio Borges said on Thursday, what this
ruling means is that for the first time, Nicholas Maduro
has the power to enact laws, assigned contracts and curve
foreign debt and persecute fellow Venezuelans. Maduro spoke about the
ruling in a messaged broadcast live Thursday on the Government's
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Teach the Government's TV network. Huh, they only got one.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
They are giving.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
They are authorizing me enabled special powers that stem out
of the estate of emergency clauses in our constitution. This
is in order by the Supreme Court. It is an
historic ruling, Maduro said. The ruling sent shockwaves across the region.
The Peruvian government broke off diplomatic relations with Venezuela over
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the matter, recalling Mariano Lopez Chaveri, its ambassador to Caracas.
In a statement issued by Peru's Foreign ministry, Peruvian President
Pedro Pablo Sinotskuk called the court ruling an arbitrary measure
that disrupts the rule of law and constitutes a breakup
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of the constitutional and democratic order. The Supreme Court ruling
says the judicial branch will execute all legislative powers that
normally belonged to the National Assembly, which has had opposition
majority since January twenty sixteen. Let it be known that
as long as the contempt situation persists in the National
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Assembly actions are invalidated, the Constitutional Court will guarantee that
all parliamentary functions will be exercised by this Court or
an institution designed by it in order to safeguard the
rule of law, the court wrote. The Court declared the
National Assembly in contempt last year for swearing in three
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legislatures from Amazonia's state. Their elections were deemed invalid by
the court. Former presidential candidate and opposition leader Enrique Kappeliaz
denounced the ruling while on a trip to neighboring Colombia
on Thursday. In Venezuela, we have a government operating outside
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the constitution. There's now a dictatorship in Venezuela. They have
crossed the line. Scuffles broke out outside the Venezuela and
Supreme Court building Thursday afternoon, with anti government protesters trying
to storm the facility as National Guard blocked access. Some
protesters yelled at the guards, using exploitives and calling them
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traders to the motherland. Venezuela is facing a deep humanitarian
crisis sparked by economic meltdown. Shortages of basic food products
and medicines are all commonplace. Inflation is expected to rise
one thousand, six hundred and sixty percent this year and
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two thousand, eight hundred and eighty percent in twenty eighteen.
According to International Monetary Fund. This is coming. I cannot
believe these numbers. This is coming here. We are gonna
deal with this or I'm gonna have a heart attack
and die when I can't get my medication. So funk
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it all anyway. An unprecedented move, especially for the socialist government,
Maduro announced March twenty fourth that his government asked the
United Nations for help with dealing with Venezuela's medicine shortages,
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which have grown severe as the country grapples with this crisis.
When I think about like my preps and stuff that
I've done and what I've accomplished, and when I have
control over, the thing that drives me the craziest is
my wife's psych meds. I mean, it's a disaster. It's
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gonna be a disaster, and there's nothing I can do
to prepare for that. Like earlier in March, data from
the country's central Bank revealed Maduro's government is running out
of cash. Venezuela has ten point five billion in foreign
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reserves left. Given that the country is still owe seven
point two billion in outstanding debt payments, that's nothing. We're
in the trillions now. We currently current year America we
are in trillions of dollars of debt. You know, billions
wasn't even an economic number. The concept of a billion
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is an astrological term, astronomical term, as in years and
space and fucking the number of stars out there. Now
we're in trillions of dollars of debt. It means Venezuela
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will run out of cash at some point. I mean,
if they don't run out of cash, they can just
print more causing you know, more, even more of the
same less. I guess until they can't afford paper or
ink like. I guess that's when it will stop.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
That should be.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
That should be a US government t shirt. We're not
gonna stop until we run out of inc US treasury.
The Organization of American States meant Tuesday to address the
political crisis in Venezuela, but member states fell short of
finding consensus on the goal of imposing sanctions and demanding
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the release of political prisoners, ensuring instead a statement to
keep on examining options with the participation of all parties
in Venezuela to support democracy and the rule of law
under the Venezuelan Constitution. So here in our timeline to Armageddon.
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The next stop is from twenty seventeen constitution and elections
are suspended to twenty nineteen. Armed citizens massacred by own government.
So this article is called Venezuela extra Judicial killings in
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poor areas a pattern of serious police abuse goes unpunished.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
So, besides.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
The the obvious like don't let authoritarians take over your
government message, you know, next, we're going to be moving
kind of into a too, a kind of chat.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
You know, remember in the last episode when I was like.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Oh, you know, this thing is gonna completely just take over,
Like is relevant to this. The removal of private ownership
of guns is directly related to Venezuela. Extra Judicial killing
in poor areas a pattern of serious police abuse goes unpunished.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Uh, this is.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
From HRW dot org. I'm trying to find a writer's
name here, September eighteenth, twenty nineteen. It says, all right,
so let's go, let's just go fucking let's just go.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
We're gonna go right after this, We're gonna go, yes,
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all right, Human.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Rights Watch dot Org HRW Venezuela extrajudicial killings in poor
areas a pattern of serious police abuse goes unpublished punished.
Washington DC of Venezuelan police unit has been carrying out
extra judicial executions otherwise known as murder and arbitrary arrests
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and poor communities that no longer support than Nicholas Maduro government.
Human Rights Watch said today since the creation of the
unit's Special Action Force of Venezuela, yeah, I'm gonna attempt
this Fernanza d Aconiosa's especiales or the FeAs. It's a
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little too close to fags for me, guys, feags fees
as a branch of the Bolivian National Police. In twenty seventeen,
police will have a unit have engaged in serious human
rights violations with impunity. It is its abuse of policing
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practices and low income communities are consistent with a pattern
of Human Rights Watch and Provenna of Venezuela and Human
Rights Group found in twenty sixteen of widespread allegation of
abuses by security forces in ordinary citizens during what is
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known as the Operation to Liberate and Protect the People
or Operationitione de Liberation Protection del PUBLBLO.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Or the OLP.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
In the midst of an economic and humanitarian crisis that
is hitting the poor the hardest. Venezuelan authorities are resorting
to egregious abuses, and low income communities that no longer
support the Maduro regime said, oh, we know this guy.
Jose Miguel Vivicano, an American director of the Human Rights Watch.
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In a country where the justice system is used to
prosecute opponents instead of two investigating crimes, that sounds really familiar.
Took look to your city, police officers.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Venezuelan and security forces are taking justice into their own hands,
killing or arbitrayedly arresting people they say have committed crimes
without showing any evidence. In June and July twenty nineteen,
Human Rights Watch interviewed witnesses or family members of nine
victims of violations by.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
The FAGS in Caracas.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
In this state in the interior, as well as lawyers,
active activists, and journalists covering the alleged killings by that unit.
Human Rights Watch also reviewed death certificates in four cases
that were consistent with the sources accounts by reports by
local human rights organizations and independent media outlets. The methods
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used by the Special Action Forces or FAGS, and the
circumstances of the killings have in the case In the cases,
Human Rights Watch documented are consistent with the pattern identified
by the United Nations off of the High Commissioner for
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Human Rights or the OHCCHR, and local human rights groups.
Police and security forces have killed nearly eighteen thousand people
in Venezuela in instances of alleged resistance to authority since
twenty sixteen. Interior Minister Nestor Ravioli reported in December that
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in December twenty seventeen that there were five nine hundred
and ninety five such cases in twenty sixteen and four
thy nine hundred and ninety eight and twenty seventeen. Venezuelan
security forces killed nearly seven thousand people and incidents that
they claimed were cases of resistance to authority in twenty eighteen.
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In the first five months of twenty nineteen, according to
their government figures. Imagine being killed for resistance to authority?
What does that even mean? You know what it reminds
me of is the fucking dorks in England that try
to block the road with their retarded vests and like
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people have just been running over them and getting out
of their cars and whipping their asses and stuff. That's
resistance to authority, buddy. Obviously, the joke is a resistance
to the real authority. Nobody has yet compiled detailed information
as to how many of these killings by security forces
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have been extra judicial executions, but the OHCCHR concluded that
information analyzed by OHCCHR suggests that many of these killings
may constitute extra judicial executions. Oh HCAR investigated twenty cases
of people killed between twenty eighteen and April twenty nineteen
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in depth. Hearing nearly identical reports that the FAGS agent
fatally shot young men or arrests, and circumstances in which
legal forces were not necessarily to protect life. The UN
agency concluded that taking into account the profile of the victims,
the modus operandi of the security operations, and the fact
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that the FAGS often maintained a presence in the community
after an operation ends, THEHCCHR is concerned that authorities may
be using FAGS and other security forces as an instrument
to instill fear in the population and to maintain social control.
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In all cases, Human Rights Watch investigated in depth the
armed FAGS agents were just dressed in the.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Unit's black uniforms.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
In several cases, they wore sche masks, arrived in a
black pickup truck without license plate and bursts into homes
in low income neighborhoods, and the agents often took f
family members of the victims outside before carrying out the killings.
In some cases, agents stole food, of course they did.
Everyone's starving. They're eating fucking zoo animals and other items
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difficult to find during Venezuela's economic and humanitarian crisis.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
So this gives us a little bit of something to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Not only are they fags, but they dressed like Antifa,
and we all know that Antifa are a bunch of
socialist thugs, so it all makes sense. All this is
all clicking together, clicking together, click click, click, clicklick, like
that roller coaster we talked about in the last episode.
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In every case of killings that were investigated, family members
said that the fags manipulated the crime scene and evidence
agents plan arms and drugs, or fired their weapons into
walls the old Vic Mackey move or the air to
suggest the victims had resisted authority. Don't resist my authority.
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That should be some shit t shirts that cops wear
Don't resist my Authority. After some killings, family members said
that they had difficult obtained their loved ones bodies, autopsy reports,
or death certificates. In one case, an agent used electric
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shocks on a detainee.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
They beat and kicked them and.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Covered his head with a plastic bag in which they
had sprayed a chemical substance that made his face and
throat itch and swell. Such treatment amounts to torture. Remember
we talked about torture a little bit In the last episode.
The agent believed that men had stolen motors like goals
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belonging to a Special Action Force commander's wife that may
had told Human Rights Watch, Wow, you stole my wife's motorcycle. Bro,
I'm gonna kill you. In six cases, o HCHR documented,
those killed by the Fags were government opponents or people
perceived as such.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Agents executed them.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
During the raids after anti government protests since January. Many
of these protests have been in support of Juan Galdo,
the National Assembly president, who is challenging the litiment legitimacy
of Maduro's presidency. These executions fit the same pattern as
most of the killings the Human Rights Watch reviewed, as
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well as those oh HCAR documented. Most of the killings
Human Rights Watch reviewed are consistent with the abuse of
policing practices that several security agencies have used for years.
Between twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen, Venezuelan security forces swept
through low income communities during the OLP. Participating security forces
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include the Boliviarian National Guard, the Boliviarian National Police, and
the Boliviarian National Intelligence Services or SEB, and the Scientific
pen Penal and Criminal Investigative Police and the State Police.
These raids resulted in widespread allegations of violations such extrajudicial
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judicial killings, mass arbitrary detentions, mistreatment of detainees, forced evictions,
destructions of homes, and arbitrary deportations. In November twenty seventeen,
Venezuela's then attorney general said security forces had killed more
than five hundred people during these raids. Government officials repeatedly
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said that the government that the victims were armed criminals
who had died in confrontations. In many cases, witnesses or
families of victims challenged these claims. In several cases, victims
were last seen alive in police custody. Human Rights Watch
found no evidence that Venezuelan judicial authorities property properly investigated
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any of the cases documented. Many victims fear retaliation if
they report crimes or do not trust the authorities will investigate.
In four of the cases, judicial or police authorities did
not wait for the conclusion of a formal investigation, but
declaring that the victims were definitely criminals, they were criminals.
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Venezuelan authorities told THEHCAR that five FAGS agents were convicted
or charged, including attempted murder, for crimes committed in twenty eighteen,
and that three hundred and eighty eight agents were under
invent mistigation for crimes committed between twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen.
But OHCAR is reported that institution's responsible for the protection
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of human rights, such as Attorney General's Office, the Court
and the Umbudsperson usually do not conduct prompt, effective, thorough, independent, impartial,
transparent investigations into human rights violations and other crimes committed
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by state actors, bring perpetrators to justice and protect victims
and witnesses. I'm budsman's I thought were just like professional witnesses,
like they just sit in the room to watch stuff.
I could be wrong about that. I don't know, and
I don't really admit that very often, So fuck a
Google search and let me know. Let me know what
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you find out. When the Special Actions Forces were created
in twenty seventeen, Maduro said its purpose was to combat
time and terrorism and quote protect the people unquote from
quote criminal organizations and terrorist groups promoted by the criminal
right unquote. Its parent agency, the P and B, as
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part of Venezuela's Interior Ministry, which Nestor Ravioli has led
since twenty sixteen. Ravioli reports directly to Maduro. Instead of
investigating widespread allegations of human rights violations by the agency,
Venezuelan authorities have defended it. Human Rights Watch found on
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July seventeenth, twenty nineteen, Maduro chanted long live the Fags
and expressed full support of the agency's daily work to
bring safety to the Venezuelan people. We're just here to
serve and protect everybody. We're just here to serve everything.
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Human Rights Watch share this information with the International Criminal
Court Prosecutor Fatu Bunsanda, who in February twenty eighteen opened
a preliminary examination into the situation in Venezuela to determine
whether a full investigation by the court is merited. In
September twenty eighteen, the governments of Argentina, Canada, Chile, Colombia,
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Paraguay and Peru asked the ICC Prosecutor to investigate potential
crimes against humanity in Venezuela dating as far back as
February twelfth, twenty fourteen. Costa Rica, France and Germany later
added their support to this request.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Do you see who's missing? Do you see who's We're
gonna get into this. Do you see who's missing on
this list? Why?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Why these fags are killing? These fag killings are committed
in the context of systematic brutality by the Venezuelan security
forces that has gone unpunished in Venezuela for years. Vivicano
said the lack of judicial independence only reinforces the cold
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reality that there is no hope for any credible accountability
for these crimes in Venezuela. There's tons of this, but
I have to move on. The links are gonna be
in the thing, you know, Come on, man, you know
the thing.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
It's like Joe Biden. He's saying like he's like he
doesn't he.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Can't say the word God to his people like he
can't say the word God to leftists in a speech.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
So he goes, come on, man, you know uh, you
know the thing, you know the thing if your GoDaddy
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managed war, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I guess I'm still kind of rusty, all right? Come on,
I made these too long, or my sound engineer made
them too long?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
All right, Well, here's a quick word from our our president,
are the Catholic in chief for America.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Got back up out his feet and once again fight
for the proposition.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
And we hold these truths to be self evident.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Sounds corny?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
How did Joe think about it?
Speaker 4 (40:25):
We hold these truths to be self evident?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Oh? Man, when we're created by go you know the thing?
You know how we talked about it.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
We the people folks. He's like, I can't save the
word God in from of all these people, though they'll
kill me. How buy our creators certainly alien rights.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
We've never lived up to that. We've never lived up that.
Thomas Jefferson, who wrote the words, never lived up to it.
But we've never ever before walked away from him. Got
big feelings, Got big feelings? All right?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Well, I refuse to do another one of these episodes.
So I've got to get through this shit right now.
US officials defend their venezuela strategy after Maduro claims election victory.
So what happened in just recently twenty twenty four? Maduro
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loses the election by thirty percent and sorry, thirty percentage points.
I'm not a statitician, so I don't know what that means,
but thirty percent seems like it's outside of the margin
of error. So Madua loses election by thirty percentage points
and remains in power. So this is from the Miami Herald.
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US officials depend their venezuela strategy after Maduro claims election victory.
This is Nora Gomez, Tora Torres, and Michael Wilner. Dated
just a few days ago July thirtieth, twenty twenty four.
The Biden administration was on the defense of Monday over
its policy. Bet that now you also remember that one
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of my big staples dealing with Joe Biden is that
every foreign policy decision he makes is wrong and disastrous,
every single one. Since like nineteen seventy five, there's plenty
of episodes about Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
You go back and listen to them. I'm not late
to this game.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
The Biden administration was on the defense of Monday after
its policy bet that elections in Venezuela would dislodge strong
Man Nicholas Maduro, a day after he was declared the
winner the presidential election despite several irregularities.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
And polls indicating his feet.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
In a call with reporters, senior administration officials field in
questions about what the United States would do next, whether
the Biden administration's negotiations with Maduro would, which included lifting
oil sanctions and releasing prisoners, had failed to deliver the
democratic change in the South American country. The officials defended
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those decisions as having made it possible for an opposition
candidate to be included on the ballots, and said that
they were prepared for the possibility that Sunday's elections would
not lead to the change in Venezuelan's government.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
This is a quote from an unnamed official. This is
journalism in current year. They quote someone and then just
said one of the when the quote's over, you'll you'll
hear I'm just gonna do it. Fuck it, We'll do
it live. I would like to underscore quote. I would
like to understore that quote quote, I would like to
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underscore that despite all the problems which we're discussing now,
the fact that Venezuela did in fact hold an election
yesterday which allowed an opposition candidate to be on the
ballot and for the voting process to unfold, only came
about as a result of the calibrations that we've done
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with our sanctions policy over the last year. Unquote, one
of the officials said, like, it seems like, uh, maybe
I'm just old. You know, even Woodward and Bernstein were hacks,
like fiction like in movies where they're like we gotta
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get two sources on this, or like I can't run
with it until we get like three, you know, confirmed
identifiable sources. But nowadays, like the media doesn't even pretend
to lie, Like they don't even pretend to They just
say shit like this, here's a big, huge quote. That's embarrassing.
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I would say it's embarrassing. They probably think it's pretty clever,
but then it's just like unquote one of the officials said,
that shit, I mean it matters, right, like it mattered.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I think it mattered.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Meanwhile, they're cast they're throwing Catherine herriage and fucking prison
because she won't release her sources. I'm reminded of that
great philosopher and politician Hillary Clinton when she said, what
difference does that make at this time? You know, just
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a couple of Americans dead, no city on fires, no
big deal. The officials said that their principal concern was
at the Venezuelan National Electoral Council announced the result that
does not track with the data that we have received
through quick count mechanisms and other sources, which suggests that
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the result that was announced maybe at odds with the
hot with how people voted. Huh where we seen that
in the last couple of years. All this shit is
at our doorstep, friends, friends, neighbors, countrymen. All of this
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shit that we've been talking about for the last two
episodes is at our doorstep. It's terrifying. The electoral council,
under Maduro's control, said that he beat position candidate Edmund
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Gonzalez fifty one point two percent to forty four point
two percent based on data obtained from eighty percent of.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
The voting stations.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Edison Research, trusted polster that conducts election day exit polls
in the United States, projected that Gonzales had won in
a landslide of sixty five percent of the vote. Earlier Monday,
White House National Security Advisor John Kirby said that the
United States would not rush to react to a result
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in the situation until the situation was clearber We are
going to hold our judgment until we see the actual
tabulations of the results, he said, urging Venezuelan electoral authorities
to release their data. The US senior officials told reporters
that it was still early in the process and that
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they were waiting for reports from international observers, and they
did not say what the US response would look like
if the accusations of fraud were proven correct. Let me
give you let me let you know what it's gonna
look like. Nothing is gonna look like nothing. They're not
gonna do anything Sunday's election. That's just my Editorializing Sunday
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elections was an important benchmark for the Biden administration and
his dealing with with Maduro. Eager to reject the Trump
administration's maximum Pressure policy, which imposed heavy sanctions on the
country's oil industry and rallied international diplomatic support for an
alternate opposition led interim government, Biden officials sought a different course.
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Under Biden, support for the interim government led by opposition
leader Juan Gualdo dwindled until the Venezuelan opposition.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Got rid of it altogether.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Biden officials also engaged in talks with maduro representative to
negotiate the lifting of oil sanctions in exchange for Maduro
agreeing to allow opposition figures to run in presidential elections
that were supposed to be fair and monitored by neutral
international observers. The carrots extended a maduna, which included releasing
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two of his releasing two of his wives nephews in
prisons for narco trafficking in the US, and alec sab
his financer and frontman accused of money laundering, were enough
to make the Venezuelan leader return to the negotiation table
with the opposition. In agreement was signed between the two
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sides in Barbados in October of last year, with the
with US blessing. The Venezuelan opposition, a notoriously fractured movement
managed to unify under long term Maduro at Mario Cairano Makado,
who ran a campaign so successful that Maduro's controlled Supreme
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Court did not allow her to be on the ballot.
That's something else that we're seeing courts do. Taking certain
individuals off a ballot. That's democracy. That's democracy for you.
Bending to the last minute international pressure, election elections authorities
allowed Gonzalez to be run in her place. As the
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harassment against Makado and her campaign staff continued. It was
clear ahead of Sunday's election that Maduro was walking away
from this agreement. For several months, the Biden administration had
been facing criticism for supporting an election that many said
was likely to be a sham, risking legitimizing the process.
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Several Cuban American politicians, including Senator Marco Rubio, was involved
in drafting policies to Latin America during the Orange Band administration,
and warned that Maduro would use negotiations to buy time
to get concessions from the United States. In February report,
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a US intelligence community assessed that Maduro was likely to
cling to power and not to concede defeat in a
presidential election. Well, they're once, they're right once a year,
twice a year now, the intelligence community says.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
That slap.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
On x oh, this is the first time I've read it,
where they say on X not or formally Twitter on X.
Rubio said Maduro regime carried out the most predictable and
ridiculous sham election in modern history, and that's saying something
and blame the Biden administration for easing sanctions as a
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part of a deal for elections in Venezuela. On Monday,
by Biden administration officials were asked if they regretted releasing
sob or if they thought their policies had failed, and
responding to their critics, they revealed that the administration had
also planned for the election not to lead to a
power transition in Venezuela. We always knew there was a
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variety of scenarios for this election as they unfolded. It's
just so funny, Like, you know, we're used to dealing
with the Biden administration says, We're used to dealing with
anomalists election irregularities. Biden official says, if they have if
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they should have had a coordinated response, he said, noting
that regional governments responded to Maduro's re election announcement in
various ways, from open rejection to calling for more information
to open support. Meanwhile, he added, the United States is
calling for electionual electoral authorities and release of the official
ballot County Act, which would take months and could be false,
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could be falsified. But the timeline is accelerating and Maduro
is already moving to threaten Machiado and others foreign others. Farnsworth,
the response needs to be immediate or it's going to
be too late. Some Venezuelan observers have said that there's
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still a chance that the election could lead to changes
in the country because some members of the Venezuelan government
white realize that Maduro staying in power after a fraud
in election will be an obstacle to seek international legitimacy
and access to financial resources. Senior US officials said that
these views might also inform US policy.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
I think that Maduro authorities understand that if it has
proven that they committed fraud in holding the election, that
is not good for their long term objectives of normalizing
Venezuela's broader diplomatic and political relations in the real in
the region, the official said. And frankly, the official the
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you know it is good for their own political position
within Venezuela. That is all part of the calculus here.
So there is another article that I plan to read
called Venezuelan Opposition says it has proof it's candidate defeated
President Maduro in disputed election. But I've got to go
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like we're done here. I will include the link to
the that article if you want to check it out.
And my name is John, I'm an Aries.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
I enjoy long walks on the beach, jihad or two
in some northern lights. That about does me in see
you next week, actually seeing a couple of days. I'll
see in a couple of fucking days. Tell them ella.
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