Glenn Scarpelli, Actor and Singer

Alison Interviews Glenn Scarpelli, Actor and Singer

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
The broom.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I'm Alison Aringram.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yes, now some of you may indeed remember me as
the evil Millielsen, but luckily tonight I'm Alison Aringeram and
this is the Alison Aringham Show. And here on The
Alison Aringham Show, we talk about things that make us
feel good, the movies and the TV shows that made
us feel good and the people who made them, and

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people are doing things now to make the world a
better and more interesting place.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
And oh do I have another one of those?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Now?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
You know, I just go to pieces when I get
to have on a friend, when I get to have
on someone I actually know. I mean, it's exciting when
I get like the new people, it's a really good
new people lately. But when I get like an old friend,
like it's gonna be a party, and that's the yeah, yeah,
that's happening tonight. In fact, our next guest, it's uh,
we were talking about this. I think between the two
of us we may know literally everyone in Western civilization,

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certainly every single person who was ever on TV in
the seventies or eighties. Between the two of us, we
literally know all of them. If you watched all the
good normal Lyric shows back in the day, you watch
stuff I did you did your homework in front of
one day at a time.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yes, yes, that is indeed. I have him on Ladies
and Gentlemen, Glenn scar Petty.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Are you.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's so good to see you, Alison.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
You know, you and I have very similar sense of humor.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
We have very simpler energy.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
And I was still looking forward to this all day
because I know that we're just we're just gonna have
a lot of fun tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this is as we could start like anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
You are amazingly of course everybody and who knows, Oh
d ell.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's my friend that one day to t he was so.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Cute and then you were also like little teen star
person teen star thing, which is just a totally wonderfully bizarre,
weird world. And you've talked about that watching our mutual
friend Pat show going. Yeah that's good, he said about.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
You did the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I I tried to be I have a teen idol
with a little because we were all trying to break
out because you were in the eighteen hundreds clothes, so
we're all.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Like, look, I'll make a sexy picture.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I'll be in a bikini so I was running around
shorts in a bikini like mad, trying to get photograph.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It didn't actually work.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I mean there were something there's people now sending me
these old pictures going you were really cute.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I liked them, so this is kind of it. I
did get to keep the bikinis. I'm very happy. I
have a really nice collection of swimsuits. But I tried,
I did you did? You really did it?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
You had the cute boy in the tight pants and
no shirt, tiger beat stuff happening, and you had like
an album and you did the whole teenage teen star
idol thing.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Was it good?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Is it weird?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
You know I had been acting for quite a while
before actually that all came into play for me, and yeah,
and I just felt it was like, you know, par
for the.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Course, you know.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I rolled with the punches as to what the industry
was bringing my way. I knew that that was part
of what pr looks like for a guy my age.
One thing I have to say, I was always very secure.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
In who I was.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
I felt comfortable in my own body. I was never
like none of none of that really harmed me, if
you will, in any way. I felt like, I could,
you know, put that on and and have fun with it, honestly,
So yeah, that part was fun.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I mean, there's there's some of it because for some
reason this month they're like, I don't know what vault
somebody opened, but I'm getting a lot via like fan
mail and on and on Facebook, like a lot of
this picture out with me in various bikinis, and some
people go, good lord, what is that. Some people go, hey,
this is great, and other people are going seriously.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
And it was kind of mixed. There's some pictures from
that era where I go, that's really cute.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
I enjoyed taking that picture. I love oh, I love
that swim.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
So that was a good day. That was fun. And
there's others where it's like cringe, not.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Like horrible, but like really really or you know, I
would go to the beach. They would want to take
pictures of the beach, but it would always be in
the morning, and like when it be freezing. Had I
been this cute little love for going, I'm getting the mania.
I'm going to like actually freeze to death. This is horrible.
So yeah, some of them were just kind of cringey,
and now it's just kind of like, I'm not sure
I actually know who that person is the fun right,

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but if people are enjoying them, I'm like, good, good,
I didn't take anything weird. There's nothing weird. They're just
like regular bikini.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
So I got to say though that, like I look
back on them, there was a time in my life
that that was awkward to look at.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
But not anymore because now I'm old and I.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Look so damn cute, and I'm like, WHOA, Like, why
didn't I take more of those pictures? Like, I'm all,
I'm good with it. I'm like, you know, I've come
to grips with it.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
We were so cute.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
We were so cute, I know, I said the head photos.
Do we have any of the photos the ones of us?
I don't know, flinging some stuff up on the screen
because there's photos of us back in the day that
we're saying.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
We were so freaking adorable, and did we need that's
so the one, that's the one. It's Dodd. It's odd,
it's Dodd. Yeah, did you be in dog? What am
I wearing?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I don't know, but.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I got to tell you it's adorable. And here's the
irony of this picture, which I found so funny. You
posted February fourth, twenty like eighteen, you posted this picture,
so that was literally today.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
This popped up as a as.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
A memory for me on Facebook and today today and
this is the day you asked me to be on
your podcast. But you posted this literally twenty eighteen today
February fourth, and you wrote, this is one of the
rare pictures of me, not in my little house garb
the little outfits.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
This is me wearing.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Regular clothes, and somehow Todd and I are just totally
into your boot.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I don't know why, what is going on? Did my
boot fall off? Are they helping me put my boots on?
Did you guys decide to really like them? But they
were really cool.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
They were these gray leather litle high heill cowboy boots.
I okay, this is so an eighty story.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I wore them later to the US festival was at
glenhlen Ned Park or whatever, and tried to walk in
them in glen Halen Park.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
To go see the B fifty twos, et cetera. And
destroyed them. I completely destroyed them and they're just like
flayed walking there.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
And then I took them to a very elderly Russian
man who fixed his shoes in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
And first he chided me, said what did you do?
What did you do to these? When did you do
these boots? Why?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Why?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
And then he fixed them what they were like?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
So, yeah, so you can destroy There are people out
in LA that if you destroy your boots you can't
actually have the But so eighties, Yes, my beautiful high
field shiny boots that I destroyed at the US, that's
no the USK.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
I remember, I remember it well.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
And I gotta say the thing about the eighties that
I love, And you know, you talk about things that
make us happy. Thinking back on the eighties makes me happy.
And again, part of it is the fashion. Because it
was colorful, it was fun. I don't think any of
us took ourselves very seriously in it either, like I
think it was you know, it was a chance to

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kind of just express ourselves through this fun, bright colored,
big hair fashion.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
I loved it because I got I got into punk
in the seventies or to the punk thing.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
But then, yeah, the eighties it was day glow.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Everything was day glow, pink and green and blue, and
your hair could not be too large and you could
you could not wear.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Too much makeup in the eighties. It was physically impossible
to wear too In the nineteen eighties, you can just
have Joan.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Galland's like eyelash and your eye shadowed. Women were doing
a makeup like they were divine. It was, and it
was like totally that was cocktail hour.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
In the eighties.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
So I did I rock your fields couldn't be too high,
you couldn't have too much make up.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
It's so it's so true.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
And then I look at some of those pictures of me,
like with the big pompadoor hair and stuff, and I
wish I still had that.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Hair, right, I yeah, I would. By bikini pictures go well, damn,
you know right geese.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
And the funny thing was there was one picture that
people going in and here was this photoshop and it's
a one it's one Pete swimsuit the like so section
like actually that was a really practical swim suit that
it were for swimming.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
The bikinis were just kind of like, so that's my
good swimsuits.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
But yeah, it was such a weird era and we're
in all of these crazy but I think we met
at the fabulous Danuel Burgoise, a lovely person.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
We met at her party.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Because this is how all of us child stars met
as was people's parties.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Parties.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, that was our social our social gatherings. Danielle very
dear friend of both of ours, still to this day.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
You know, I hadn't seen it right. You used to see.
This is what was cracking me up.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
You didn't interview our friend at laboratory show, and every
time he mentioned anyone when you'd ever worked with.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
You went, well, I just talked to him the other day.
Oh yes, Well, she and I.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Are friends on facebooks like you were still in Dutch
with everyone.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
I stay in touch with a lot of people, if
you've noticed, I'm not shy. First of all, Allison, So
I have this, you know type of I enjoy friends.
I enjoyed laughing, I enjoyed parties and all that jazz.
So Danielle and I have known each other before we
got on television.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
During our Broadway days.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
She was doing Yeah, she was doing Annie when I
was doing Gold with Anne Bancroft my Broadway debut, her
Broadway debut, and we became buddies. And then you know
Norman cast us both in two of his shows, and
we stayed buddies throughout that, and we hadn't seen each other, honestly.
We stayed phone friends for a long time before all
of this, and then we saw each other at Norman

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Lear's memorial recently and it was just a lovely reunion.
And you know, you know a good friend. And that's
how I feel about you, too, sweetheart. You know a
good friend when you cannot see each other for a
long time, and then once you get together, it's like
no time has passed.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
You start, you pick up the conversation where you're left off.
It's just it's absolutely like that.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's okay. The Broadway think that was the thing back
in the day history lesson for the children.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Back in the older days when they were casting sitcoms,
they went to the theater because TV was new, and
when it was like black and White and the Dick
Fandayke Show, when it was that. What they did is
because they're coming out of radios. They went to Broadway
and even off Broadway. Broadway and actors who were well
known in the stage would be given a show. And
that's why, like, as a younger person, if you sometimes

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see these old TV shows and it's the so and
so show, and you're like, who the heck is that?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
And you look at like they're not in any move.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
They worry Broadway star and they gave them a TV show,
and that's how TV was. And Bonnie Franklin was a
stage actress, and so that's why people were going his
buddy Franklin stage actress. That was still a thing in
the seventies. So she got a show and that's how
you got in. And Daniel Rishill, all of these people
were the junior division of that of people who came

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from Broadway to TV.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
That is no longer a thing now.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Actors on TV shows desperately try to be in a
Broadway play to like sort of like make themselves look legitimate.
If they worried about that, it's like it's the other
way around. You're like trying to get on Broadway. But
back in the day people were pulled from Broadway to
be on TV.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
It was really cool.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Well, you know, especially with Norman shows, because they were
shot in front of a live audience. You know, there
is that sense of how to work an audience, you know,
how to hold for a laugh, how to find the
timing and find that energy because there is something special
about that night when you're shooting in front of a
live audience and that light, those lights go on top

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of the cameras and they're switching in the booth and
we're doing a play.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
And it really was like.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
And you have to be able to not be intimidated
by a live audience because there are film actors and
we've seen it. I mean I've said I My parents
were in theater. They actually ran a theater in Vancouver
and British Columbia. My father found at the Tote Theater.
So I came from theater and I did do I
started in TV, but when I was about thirteen, I
was in the Garden Theater Festival. Were doing cry of Players.
I played Shakespeare's daughter. I was great, and you know,

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so I knew that. But I've seen I've been in
shows with other TV actors and initially they're like there's
like a learning curve. They're like, oh, I have to
talk louder. Oh wait, there's people in the room, not
just a camera. And I've seen TV actors go whoa
hey and like adjust to that. If they've only done film,
it's a whole other thing. I enjoy it myself, but
I did. There's such a huge difference, so it made

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sense in the of television. That's like, let's get the
people who've been on a damn stage before. Now you
had a hell of a Broadway career. This blows my mind.
It's like I knew you were like musical theater kid.
It's like, yeah when I was when I was in
Golden with Hann Bancroft.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
And you know the thing about Golda that really touched
my heart the most was I actually got to know
Golden Mayir and Am Bancroft, who.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Is literally I said, you know everyone, you have literally
met everybody? Oh yeah, my.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Prime minister friend.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
No, because she played a really big part in the
development of the play. It wasn't just about her, it
was with her participation. So to know getting to know
Golda was amazing. She said something to me that stuck
with me my whole life. And I'm going to share
this with you. I didn't share this on Patrick's podcast
I Getting Hot Exclusive Scoop. Yes, let me think of

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different different stories than I told on Our Dear Friend
the Patrick Labor Show. I when I was nine years
old when I did golden and she would really connect
with us.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
It's because we played her kids.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
I played her son, min Achem, and you know, she
had a real connection to that. So she would take
us out to lunch and we would hang out and whatnot.
She was born in America, so she spoke beautiful English.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
And she said to me at nine, and it was.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Something I'm gonna I'm just gonna preface this by saying
it's something I didn't actually understand back then, but I remember,
so it was something I carried through my entire life.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
And she said, be the person you want to spend
the rest of your life with, and she just touched
my face. Be the person you want to spend the
rest of your life with. That was her advice.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
And you know, you look at what this woman accomplished
and who she was to the world, truly, and just
that nugget of wisdom bestowed onto a nine year old
was pretty special. And you know, I mean I heard
that through a nine year old filter at that point.
Then I heard it a twenty year old filter, then
a thirty year olds Acordian, and now at fifty eight,

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I'm listening to it in a new way, and it's
so profound because it's really.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Spend the rest of your life with because you will.
I need that You're stuck with you.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Right exactly when also about I think it's also about
you know, this whole notion of when we're in healthy relationships,
like you and I are that like this other person
completes us, and that's not necessarily true. We are both independent,
wonderful beings on our own. Together we make this wonderful union,

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but we are the person we want to spend the
rest of.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Our lives with.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
And there's a spoken too about for women saying we
are now the men we wanted to marry that in
the old days. So it's like trying to find a
man who's good at this.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Trying to fight a man with a good job. You know,
if you're trying to fight.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
A man, it's like, well we now as women would
do all those things. So like we're we're now kind
of being the guys. We're going to put it all
on them that we want to marry, so which frees
up then the guy to just be himself and you
could just love them because you love them.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, No, I absolutely love that.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
And I'm the guy I wanted to marry.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Everyone wants to marry. Actually, because you're now the story
that you did tell me. He's people he worked with,
used to al Pacina. Now, I have not met al Pacino.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Big al Pacina fan from way back, from Godfather, from
from you know, uh everything. I'm mad for al Pacino,
all of his movies, all the way back, and I
just adore him. But al Pacino Great with Kids was
totally not a thing that I thought I've seen him alive.

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I went to the evening with al Pacino where he
did Shakespeare and spoke and answer questions for hours. Was
hysterically funny is Dying Bobs and we did Salome, brilliant,
Brillian Prilim, see him on stage, seen him on the film, like,
but I mean there's things in his performances, like what
was it the one where he's the Devil's avag he's
the devil, he turns out to be the devil at

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the end of the movie. I think that's one of
the great performance being big on villains. I'm like, take notes, Yes,
there's absolute things he's done. I'm like, I'm going with that,
thank you. But uncle al Pacino, friend two children, best
friend to kids, not a thing that would have occurred
to me. And I'm delighted to hear that he's a

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good person and it was kind. But you have this
whole story of working a working with al Pacino on
stage gasp, and him being like the kindest, most fatherly,
lovely person, imaginable, what the heck?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, you know?

Speaker 4 (17:39):
And again, yeah, I say that he is an introvert,
you know, and he was certainly shy but humble, you know,
And that's what was so beautiful. He taught me never
to believe my own press.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
That was one of the smart Yeah, that was one
of his big things of advice to me. And we remain.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
You are an infant in this picture. How old are
you in this picture with Al Pacino?

Speaker 4 (18:03):
I was probably twelve there Al actually kab Yeah, I
was twelve. Al came to my thirteenth birthday party, and
which was so sweet.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
We invited everyone from the cast. I did not expect
Al to show up, and he did.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
And he gave me that shirt that he's wearing in
this picture as my presence. He gave me his costume
and he said, someday, I hope you wear this when
you play Richard the Third and he gave me his
costume and this note that I still have that one.
I have that one I kept at my mom's house,
you know, because I had that fire. We were talking

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about that a little bit before we went on the air.
I lost everything I ever owned, including that shirt, got burnt.
But I but it was just so kind and wonderful
for him to give that to me.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I'll share it.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Al Pacino literally kab that shirt off his back, right.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Off his back, and I got saying this because it's
I'm trying not to do this in an arrogant way,
but I will tell you. I memorized the letter he
sent me, and he said, this is the words he used.
And I'm sharing this only because I hope it comes
from a humble, grateful way when I share this with you,
because it's something I treasure in my life. But he

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wrote to one of the greatest actors I've ever had
the joy to know and work with. And I just
like I CA at twelve years old, Albercino said that
to me and wrote it to me, and I have
it hanging up in my office to this day. So
I share that because those were the types of experiences
Allison that as I moved into a hit television show.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I was able to carry some sort of.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Grounded wisdom, if you will, from the experiences I had,
so none of it got out of.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Control or went to my head or you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Like I already had some wonderful artistic experieniances that led
to that, and this, this Pacino moment was certainly one
of them.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
And you learned how to treat people because the way
you treat you to do that to be this huge,
fantastic star, this incredible actor, and then say, you know,
you have this twelve year old kid, say you're You're
that good. I think you're the greatest person I ever
worked with to give that gift to a twelve year old.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
And I'm going to tell you another story I didn't
tell on Pat show.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's gonna kill me. I wanted to getting scooped Pat.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I wanted to know.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
I want to share different stories so that these interviews
are different.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
So so I'm shooting one day at a time.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Now. They moved the show from Metromedia Square to Universal Studios,
where we finished.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
The run of the show.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
And Who's down the street but Paccino shooting scarface. So
I was like, because they were like, Hey, how Pacino
shooting a movie down the street Scarface.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
He's doing the remake of Scarface.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
I was like, really, So I popped down there and
I kind of saw his trailer and I'm like kind
of gently knocked on.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
The door, as you do, and he like opened the.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Door himself and he went, hey, I'm like, I don't
mean to bother you, but I'm shooting down down the way.
I have a TV series now, and blah blah blah.
And he invited me in and then he said, I
want to have lunch with you tomorrow. He invited me
for lunch and it was just the two of us
in his trailer for lunch. And I mean, this is
who he was, right, I mean, just kind and wonderful,

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never heard of one day at a time.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I don't even think he owned a television honestly.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I think he's still may still not.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
He's talked about these like social media, TV, what are
are you people all even talking about?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, He's like I gotta do any of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yeah, But I gotta say he was in character the
entire time. He had the accent, he never got out
of character for lunch, had an accent. He spoke, oh
my gosh, and I'm blank on the character's name, but
the scarface character.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
The aster, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and say hello to my
little fend my little friend.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
And he did that entire time, and it was just
so wonderful because that's who I remember him being, like,
I didn't expect anything else than to hit h.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Like of course he's yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
The thing was it was it anything to do with
being a fellow Italian? Was there a bond there that picture?
Was there was there an Italian bond Scarpelly Vagino?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh my gosh, I hope.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
So it was like another another good Italian actor.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
But yeah, you talked about that that he was so
good with.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
You and so marvelous and here he was so young
and creature the third and he.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Was like completely let we'll talk about it, explain.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
But that he asked you to stand in the wings
when it was his time to go on.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
That was like I remember just going.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Yes, yeah, he had he was he was very in
tuned with energy, and he he asked me to stand
in the wings, so he just put his arms on
my shoulder right before he went on. I think for somehow,
my age, my energy calmed him, centered him, and you know,
I did that pretty much the whole.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Run of the show, if I recall, we certainly did it.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
And the moment I remembered was opening night as this happened,
the lights went down, and Lee Strasburg was in the audience,
and like all this, it was such an exciting evening.
And here I was, in this last moment before he
began his journey to open Richard that they'red on Broadway.
Here I am with al Pacino having this very personal moment.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I was so mind blown by this. So Bob, I'm
talking about it. How about you are?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Like, can you'd be the last person I see before
he go on? It was like you were this grounding
influence and like, what a fantastic thing. And Bob said, well,
Richard the third right, I mean, he's going to kill it.
He's the monstrous creature's murdered these children.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
To be king.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
He said, I'm wondering if that wasn't something's performance to
look at this completely darling sweet angel baby face and
go right, I have to murder him. I am the
person who is so awful. They could murder that, because
that would do it, that would twist your mind. That
would twist you so bad that you'd be rich.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
With the third, he would do it.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I mean all that, Bob. He's pretty smart that one.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Because he could direct.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
He's seriously, no, I'm impressed, because I've never really looked
at it that way.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
There's one he said, yes, a beautiful face. It's the
darling boy who's so friends with him. Yep, I'm gonna
kill him later, you know what.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
That He loved to keep things fresh, and I think
being on Broadway doing the same show every night is
hard to do that because you're so limited to you know,
the staging and the blocking and so on and so forth.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
So one night he wore his costume.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
From from Pablo Hummel, which was the Broadway show he
had done right before Richard the Third.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
He wore that. He wore that costume. He just felt
like it.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
It was like, Okay, one night one night he said,
we're just gonna do it with one lighting cue.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
The whole show is gonna has going on.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
No, and C's were just going to be just like
one lighting cue, and the whole show was done that way,
in which added this whole new fresh feel to our performances.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Really, he just liked that.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
One night, there's this scene that he and I had
where I'm kind of jabbing at him because I know
he's up to no good and I know instinctively that,
you know, I'm in the wave, I'm in the way
of him becoming king my uncle, my uncle Richie. So
I'm needling him and he takes my face on stage.

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This was like, well into the run of the show,
like this is nothing like this was We weren't discovering things.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
This was into the run of the show.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah, And he grabbed my face out and he just
licked it. He licked my cheek, my whole face, and
it was his saliva just literally on my I mean,
because he was grotesque.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
He had hump like he was grotesque Uncle Richard, you know.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
And he just licked my face and I looked at
him and I just went like this like this, and.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
The audience freaking laughed.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
I got one of the biggest laughs that has ever
been given in a Shakespeare play.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
There was this.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Organic moment of I looked at him, like what the
are you doing?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Like like what is he doing?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
The and they the audience went nuts, and he came
off stage. Why that's so fantastic. We're keeping that in.
Oh my god, that was so great. We're keeping it in.
We're keeping it in.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
I'd say we kept it in for maybe three weeks
and then yeah, one night he said to me, we're
not doing the lick anymore.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm like, okay, And that was that. So that's right, Yeah,
we created yeah, whatever that moment was.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
But you have to do that.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
I remember reading about, you know, okay 'l Brenner, the
King and I and and that. He said somewhere early
on in the whatever tend some performances they.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Had to get.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
He said, I have to do something different every single night.
I have to somehow do the King. I have to
play the case differently every single night, because otherwise I'll
go crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Because clearly I'm doing the show for years. I'm clearly
gonna keep doing the show for years. And at some
point he went, this isn't stopping. I'm gonna be doing this.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
I'll be bored out of my mind. I will i
will go insane, I will be so miserable.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I have to.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Find something new constantly with this character the point that
it's like different every night, or I'll go mad. And
he said the audience may not notice that I'm doing
something different. I ain't care, but I just it's if
something isn't different in my head at some point during this.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
How would you even survive doing the King and I
that long? So yeah, that you do. You have to
you make stuff up.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah, And it's so interesting that you say that because
and I know you know this, but to share with
your audience, Like, actors really feel that theater is the
actors medium, because film is a director's medium because they
get to cut your performance. You know. Television is a
writers medium because you really have to write what's on that.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Page, really tell.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Those stories and arc those characters over a period of
seasons and so on and so forth. But when it
comes to acting, it's when that curtain goes up. It's
just you and the audience and that's it and that chemistry.
So the actor has a lot more say, if you will,
in what actually happens and transpires pace wise, you know,

(28:26):
connection doing things that are like Paccino and You'll Brenner,
that are fresh and new and unannounced, if you will,
which makes it exciting, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
If you do it really well, it's like, what's it
going to do?

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Next. And that's the thing for the audience, So like, oh,
I'm not watching it, that's really happening. I don't even
know where these people are going to go with this,
And what was it? You know u uda Huggins about
you know, why do we watch a cat? A cat
comes on stage, everybody's Oh, let's look at the cat.
What's the guy gonna do?

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Why? Because we don't know what cat's going to do next.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Actors following a scrap and we know what they're gonna do,
we don't know what the cat's going to do. Your
jobs and actors, to make yourself at least as interesting
as the average American house cat.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
That's I know.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I love that. I want to I'm going to write
that down.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Cat.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
I read her book many many moons ago. I want
to put it down now.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
That cat.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
And that's the thing, is you some point if you
can get that where they just go. I I sincerely
do not know what the hell this person's going to
do next. Ding that's yeah, So that's what but Gina
was clearly doing.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I might like somebody's faces, we don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
I might look a face like a cat looks his licks,
his h paw. You know, I want to I want.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
To say something else which brings us a little bit
to a one day at a time story, which is
I want to brag about Norman Lear.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
For a moment because God, go for it.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Yeah, because Norman Lear, I think lived in that same
sort of creative thinking. He was very in tuned with
spontane He let his actors play a huge role, sometimes
to the detriment of Norman Lear, a huge role in
the development of all his shows.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
And one of the things he did was we had
a five point.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Thirty show and an eight o'clock show, and he didn't
really like pickups. I mean unless we really screwed something off,
like there were not pickups.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Like that's when you have to stay up all freaking
night because you spent the week rehearsing the show. Then
you do the show like it's a play, but to
do it twice it's studio, it's filming. And then and
I've been there for a lot of shows where I
went to see friends and they're like, yeah, you can
go home now, because I'm going to be here till
midnight because they had to do pickups where they then
suddenly it becomes like a regular show.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Hey, the part where you.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Crossed to the couch was bad, and you wind up
reshooting the whole bloody thing.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
And that is that is brutal. When you have to
do pickups, it's brutal.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
And then you feel that energy on the screen. And
nowadays many sitcoms will actually rewrite scenes on the floor
and the audience is there for five hours, like our
five thirty audience was, you know, usually out by six fifteen.
I mean that's how we did the play like we
would really like we do quick changes. We've kept it

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moving our eight o'clock sometimes we took a little more
time in between we talked to the audience.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Norman would do the warm up himself and then we'd all.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Come out and get do questions and answers in between scenes.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Like we made it so much fun. Bonnie Franklin would
sing before the eight o'clock show.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
She had an accompanist, Shelley Markham came out and with
her and they would sing. She has meet to sing
with her one time, which was so exciting. So we
put on a show, you know, and we made the
audience important. And Norman really enjoyed a five point thirty
and an eight o'clock and then he cut the two
together the best of, so that's really what you saw.

(31:52):
That's what you saw was the best of, and we
also did summary writes in between. We would only do
pickups after the audience left if the show ran long, because.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
I got held prisoner once at one of those takes
and I said, there goes see your friends Tapy, and
I'm sort of skittish to ever go again because I
went to a couple were great.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
My mom did an episode of She's the Sheriff that
was fun. We went to that, but I it was hysterical.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
But I went to a show and I was like,
I am not I'm gonna say the name of the
show because oh my god, these poor people.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I don't know what was the hold up, why they
were doing things over again. It was all pickups. I
don't know what time.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
It was after midnight, and they had to bring out
snacks for the audience because people were hungry and going
to pass out, and it was like almost getting ugly,
and they were like, people are like, oh, come on,
you guys, could just you don't really need us here
for this, and they're like, no, we're not letting you leave.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
They held us.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Prisoner for like six seven hours to make a show badly.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Norman was not a fan of that at all. I mean,
all these shows, Maud, All in the Family, they all
just chopped, chop chop. Now when All in the Family
ended and Carol really became the showrunner and wasn't really
Norman at that point. He was the chairman of the
board for Archie Bunker's Place. And Danielle, if you talk

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to her, she'll she'll talk about this was not shot
in front of a live audience, you know, it was
block and taped, which that was really Carol's choice, it
was not Norman's.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
But it was only until Norman stepped out that Carol
was able to pull that one off, because, yeah, he
wanted it earlier on, I believe is the way the
story goes.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
And Norman was like, heck, no, we do audiences like
it brings a life to my work that would not
be found if we were in front of that audience,
and we would still find things. We were pretty well rehearsed.
We were not by the time we got to Friday night.
We were not at living by any means. But Harrington,

(33:55):
Pat Harrington.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Who was such a genius.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
He was so funny. Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, he was such a genius. He would find things
while the audience was there. He'd get laughs that we
didn't all expect him to get. And there were times
that he taught me how to do that actually, and you, yeah,
there were a few times I got labs.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I'll share one.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
I'll share two stories if I may, about Pat Harrington
with you. Again, I didn't share this. This is not
stories that came up on the Pat Labber.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Show, but only on the Alli Standers Show.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Exclusive to the alisand Argham Show, just because there's so
much to talk about. Two stories. First of all, Pat
really helped me.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
He and I had just a wonderful, a wonderful connection
and the first time, the first time we really realized
there was a really great connection.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
We were just rehearsing one day with the crew and the.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
First time we did the scene in front of the crew,
they hadn't seen it and whatnot. And I did this
one little moment. It was a scene where Pat was
hiding in the kitchen because he didn't want this girl
to know he was hiding in the kitchen and I
was walking out, but I saw him but he was like,
went like this, and I was like okay, and I
just started walking out and Bonnie walked behind me, and
just the way we walked, and this whole moment was

(35:15):
like just this.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
The crew went nuts. They were laughing their ass on,
and Harrington from behind the behind the cabinets, said, hey,
I'm the male lead of this show. Hey, I'm the
one that gets laughs. And I just looked at him
and went.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
The whole crew cracked out up, and then he said,
what do you do?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
And he said he flipped the bird and he loved
and he came out.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
He was hugging me, and like that was one of
our real first moments because I was like Bonnie thought it.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Was freaking hilarious.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
She was hugging me like the like you know, here
I am this precocious little fourteen year all. Hey I
got a laugh, man, don't don't we saying you're the
only one get laugh.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
On a show? That's always a thing, she answered, As.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
We know, many of our sisters and brother and child
actress were on shows where it was horrible and they
had a horrible time and people were mean to them,
and like it was just a grind, and to be
on a show where you have fun and you like
the people and they're nice to you, and you actually
get to like do good work and actually have fun
where you're actually laughing throughout the day.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
We we had that little house, I'm ast so happy,
and somebody goes, no, we didn't show what it was great.
We had a blast.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah, no, I mean we really did. And Harrington was
a big part of that. I mean everyone was so wonderful.
You know. Bonnie and I stayed close to the day
she died. She was like family to meet and her
kids her step kids but she called them her kids.
Are still two of my closest friends.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Okay, now I have to I have to write someone
because she got mentioned. Jill Joe Whalen, Captain Stubinge's daughter love. Okay,
we are both big, huge members of the Joe Whalen
fan club here because we both are crazy about who.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, yeah, she has to come on the show. I
haven't had her on the show. I can't believe I
have had her on the show. She is so wonderful.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
You had told the story about saying well Valie Burton,
Ellie helping you get the part she was like, no, No,
I got to the audition, you put in the word
for you.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Jill Whalen got me the part.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Jill I got on love Boat and it was actually
one hundred fifteen. Jill Whalen virtually ordered them to hire me.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
So sweet. I love that.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
No.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Jill was like that and still is. You know she's crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
She said it was a give me okay.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
So it was that the episode of coming I'm bras
the Becky Daniels Show and It's child star Becky Daniels,
who was awful, comes to film her show on the
love Boat and Hello and her aunt Gert played by
Nancy Kulp guess Beverly Hill Billy Nancy.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
We were coming home, Becky, and Ronnie Shell was playing
my director of my show.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Oh oh it was good and I'm in little braids
and dressed like the bad Seed and it was freaking terracle.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
He said, great, great show. But the reason I was
there was they had the meetings you.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Talk but when you're on a sitcom, they would go
through the scripts and talk about here's.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
What's coming up and what do you think? And she
got to that when I went.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
You're gimming Alison Ark right, and he went what she said, Okay, one,
it's a gimme.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Ha ha ha.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
The girl who played Nelly Olsen, she just finished doing
a little house. She was Nellie Olson, and that's going
to come be the Becky Daniels duh, like.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
How funny is that?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
And then she said, besides, because at that time, Jill
was going to Buckley with Melissa Gilbert.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
We're going to the same school.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
That's right, I remember. I remember. That's how I knew
Melissa too, is through Jill and Buckley.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
And so she was going to Buckley and she said, well,
my friend Melissa Buckley with keeps telling me how much
fun She asked with Allilson, So I want Alison of
the show because I've heard nothing about how great she
is on the set and she's really really fun, so
we totally have her on.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
And besides, come on, it's a gimme.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
The chicker was Nelly Elson played Becky Daniels about it
and they went, my god, you're right, and I then
then I was.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Called just come. I was on Love Book and one
percent Joeyeleen simply got me the job. I am forever.
In her debt, she did a show because she does
a whole one woman show.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
I think she was doing a show for some big
corporate thing and they had a thing where she had
guest stars, video in and stuff, and it was hysterical.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
So I'm like, yes, call me, what what do you like?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
What do you need? Man? I love it. I love it.
I got to share with you.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
I was Jill's first screen kiss and she was my
first screen and it was on Love Book. When we
watched it back, they put in this because we were young,
and they put in this little sound effect, which we
didn't do when we kissed. You know, I think they
wanted to make it a little sweeter to know, like, hey,

(39:48):
there's no tongue here, you know, that kind of thing.
So they made it very sweet. But then I always
joke because when people say, when did you know you
were gay? I always said, when I kissed Jill Wheeling?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Of course. Hilarious.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Andre right, So here you are at the height of
TV fame, an adorable teen idol, tiger beat.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
He's so wholesome.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
He has an album. But see, you could sing. They
even came to me when said, you want to have
an album and I can't sing.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
We don't care. You want to have an album anyway,
and I went, you know, I said, I won't do it.
I won't do it. I'm not going to be one
of those people who can't sing and you just autotune
the crap out of it and go, let gets an
album like that. Awful. I said, I respect my fans
too much to make a crappy album, so I.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Left it to people who could sing. But yeah, here
you are, you're doing the teen idol thing. And you know,
there were huge things that had moved forward by at
least the seventies and eighties.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
We were certainly better than the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
For God's sakes, but it still like you could be
on a super duper big TV show, especially if family
should go, oh yes I'm gay.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
That would nope, people still would not.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Steve Tracy, who his own little house, was like yeah,
not saying it yet not and it was still a
thing and you were young and you knew you freakingnew.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Oh yeah, I know. Well that was my big challenge.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
You know, when I look at my life and also
the work I've done on myself as I've grown as
a as an adult, you know, I look back and
how awkward that was but you know, teen life is
awkward anyway.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
And just being fourteen, yeah, being fourteen is it has
its own issues.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Right, So being on a hit sitcom, being a teen idol,
having all these girls fawning over me and still not
going out with any of them, you know, was definitely
was definitely challenging. I felt like a fraud. I tried
not to date a lot of girls just because I

(41:57):
didn't feel like I wanted to hurt any body, honestly,
So you want.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
To be a big liar, you don't want like what
if you went out with them as a good cover
story and then they really.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Liked you and wanted you to be their boyfriend and
fellow love you and you're like, no, you won't do that.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
You know, there were a few I might have I
might have heard, but you know, we're still friends. I've
made peace with everybody in my life. I've made peace
with exes.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
You know.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
I always feel like piece is like the most important
thing in my life, and I work very hard for it,
and I always feel like peace in all my relations
is important. But it was challenging back then. I'll be
I'll be honest with you. You know, these girls would scream,
and all I could think about was, so do you
gotta cute brother? You know? Because that was real. So

(42:46):
I wanted to be authentic. Authenticity to this day really,
whatever it is that that is authentic to me.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
You see, what you see is what you get.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
So finding that authenticity meant stepping aside from the business.
And it was at a time when things were still
really going well for me. People always think, you know,
I went into a challenging time. Actually I just pulled
myself totally.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Out of it. I needed privacy, you know, I needed
privacy to be who I was. I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
No one was ready to do that publicly, no company
hire you. I mean, you look at what Ellen, and
that was in the late nineties, I think, and Ellen
went what she went through.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
So very well placed, and she did it very when
people were still like gasp. And it's like, I'm sure
that's like you know, but I mean, how many people
didn't know. It's like when Katie Lang came out right.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
And you know, it's funny because.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
I'll share a story that Todd Bridges recently told me,
which is freaking Todd, our friend from our.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Pictures again, another one we all know you're yes.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Exactly Todd, because I saw him. This is going back
a few years now. But I said, you know, I
never really came out to you.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
He said, Glenn, you didn't need to come out. I said, really,
because you know, when we all knew you were gay,
I said. When he said, we were all at Universal
Studios and Jason Bateman and Ricky Schroeder were doing the
silver Spoons. He was doing different strokes. I was doing
one day at a time. We were all like kind
of in the same school rooms and facts of life

(44:13):
was going on.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
But it was.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, they were.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
We were in that we were in trailers that had
these doors that opened up where we could be together,
or we were isolated for certain for certain studies. But
Todd said he came up to me one day and
now I have no recollection of the story, but I
believe it. And what he said was he said it
was him, Schroeder and Bateman, and he said, he said, hey, dude,

(44:42):
we're going to go up to the Universal Studios tour
and and and hit on chicks.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
And you said to us, Oh, I'm sorry, I can't.
I'm going shopping with my mother.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Oh yeah, Hi.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
He said that at the moment I knew just done. Slowly,
I turned like okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
He said.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
They all looked at each other and just basically said,
oh yeah, Glenn's gay.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
I'm doing shopping with my mother.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yes you are, Yes, they and they probably did.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
So we were hanging out with kids and then we
didn't see each other. And then one day I get
this call to come to the TV Landwards.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I have my award there.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
I went to the TV land Awards I don't know
five times. I finally got an award for a character
most desperately in need of a timeout.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
That's the way I got an award too, because one
day at the time got an award. So I actually
got there to be an. But but that the time
with you, you were actually handing out awards.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
We were trophy people.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
And I got this called You're gonna be like a
trophy girl, like like you know, at the Golden Globe together,
and trophy boy.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Is Glenn scarpelling. Oh my god, that's great. So we
alternate stuff and like here's Shatner, like here here's here,
mister chatter. We're gonna hand out the awards.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
To people like yeah, I'm in I'm going to book me,
and so I get there and there your wardrobe.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
And I get there and they're running hither and thither
and getting you wardrobe because you would apparently just flown
in from Hawaii and you didn't have any underwear.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
That word you were waiting going They're they're getting me
some underwear because I think liketed to bring underwear.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
I'm like, what life are you now? Leading that you
did like literally like pants?

Speaker 3 (46:37):
What do you do now that you don't need pants
that you just flew in and they're like having to
get your pants and and it was amazing, and I
was like, what do you do? That's when you told
me the whole Banana story, but particularly in the wards
is where we rehooked up.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Yes, we rehooked up. I did put send you a picture.
I don't know if Tony can find that picture, but
it's the one of us waving on stage. But you know,
basically I was living.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
I had a condo and.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
There we are.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
How can you didn't Why did you not have pants?
Because I mean, I wish it was hysterical, but you
were like that I don't have any pants.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
I bought a condo in ki Hey Maui, and I
was living in a sarrong. Nothing not so wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
That's over that if you can get it, living in a.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Nothing's so wrong with that.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
So I was, you know, a beach bum for the
two weeks prior, and Michael Levin, our other dear friend
who produced the show, flew me out from Maui and I.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
You'd come straight from Hawaii and you hadn't worn pants,
and you're like, I don't I have worn pants in
like a while. I'm like, what are you doing that
you can not wear pants?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
And then you too, you you were going to Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Hold on, hold on, I may I may or may
not be wearing pants now.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Pants now, this is entirely Paul.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Well, you're clearly not a sarrong. But I can't see
you that. Maybe if there's a whole sarrong in Sandals.
I don't know what's happening down there. You have no
guy shows up with I have no pants, and then.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
You tell me the story. You're like, oh, well, I'm
in Arizona, you know, Sedona.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
The thing the altitude in the Sedona where like it's
UFOs and rays in space and lay lines and psychic
spirits and energy, and I'm like, wow, what if the
heck are you doing there? And then you tell me
the nuttiest story about turning on the TV and going
there's nothing on this channel.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
That's right. So back three twenty three years now, I've
been doing this business. I've owned this business for twenty
three years. I'm so grateful for my life.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
I love it so much. I'm talking to you from
Sedona as we speak.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
And yeah, I had rented this house before I bought
my first home here I had I was called here,
I felt a calling to Sedona.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
I loved it. It brought me peace.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
I was actually the morning at that point the death
of my first husband, who died of AIDS.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
So it was just a.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Wonderful place to come and, you know, mourn and be nurtured.
And I rented a house before I bought one. And
I got cable and there were only thirty five channels
and I only got thirty four channels. And I was like,
I'm calling customer service and complaints. So I called customer service.

(49:22):
It's this tiny little cable company here in Sedona. I
called customer service and I said, hey, listen, I'm I
bought thirty five channels of only again thirty four channels.
I said, that's a channel that's not working. They said,
is that channel eighteen? And I said yes, and they said,
well that's available. Would you like to make an offer?
And I was like, oh, like to own my own
television station. So so that's what that's what has you know,

(49:51):
been my life. Like I said, for the last twenty
three years. You came out, You've seen it firsthand.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
We brought Alison aw everybody to the International Film Festival
many years ago, many I don't know, twenty seventeen, and
it was so much.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I was very high altitude. I need a little oxygen.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Tony, Tony, there we go. I'm just gonna say, there's
a picture of us in Sedona.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
He was there. Look at those mountains, look at the exactly.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Dog monkey. So yeah, so I've been I have the station.
You know, we promote tourism here in the area for
I love it. We've now partnered with a wonderful morning
show on ABC fifteen statewide and I host segments traveler
TV segments on a show called Sonoran Living Here.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
If you're in the state, you'd know it. And I
just love it. I love what I do, I love
what we're doing. I can't wait for you to come
out and visit again.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
And you don't need to wear pants that Okay, we
have to wrap up the one story. So there we are. There.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
We are at the tv Land Awards or the tv
Land Awards, and it was the musical guests.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
I mean, Diana Ross was there, Smoky Robinson was there,
and Stevie Wonder.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
We both proceed to lose our tiny little minds because
we grew up. Listen to Stevie Wonder. He is like
God where like give the Stevie Wonder.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
He's a large man. He's a large man and they
call him little Stevie Wonder when he's a child.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Here's a big fell he's tall and I we were like, wow,
Stevie wanted to big guy.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
And so we go.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
You know, we've gotta meet Stevie Wonder. Now mean, there's
a gift ted and they had good stuff in the
gift ted. This is before they cut it all back
back in the day. And I go and I got
I don't know, I got a toaster and some shoes
and some perfume and a bunch of junk and there's
a man standing outside the tent in a white lab
coat with business cards. The heck and I got high
when he goes, do you want Lasik surgery to be

(51:39):
I'm nearsight, Lasik surgery to be able to see?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yes? I said, that's thousands of dollars. He goes, oh, yes, yes, yes,
we have a special Take this card. This is one
of Lasik. I said, one eye or discount, No, no,
the whole thing. Seriously. So I take the card and
then I run into you and you're like, what you get?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
I go, well, I got like a vacuum cleanness of
Lady goes they're giving away laser surgery and the part,
and you ran and you got.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
I'm go I'll behold my stuff. I'll be right. So
we get are we gonna get?

Speaker 3 (52:07):
And then we met Stevie Wonder and Stevie Wonder was
so kind of what and he loved the little house
in the prairie. He'd see I get, He said, I
watched those shows. That's how he he watched the shows.
He knew your show, he knew me, he knew you.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
He was excited to meet us. He hugged us. When
he hugged me. I thought he was going to crack
my back. I mean my feet left the ground. He did.
He hugged me in this bear hug, and he was
at all. I was like, I get it. There. I
was in such shock. I like touched by Stevie Wonder.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
But Hel and the two of us were sitting there
in shock by that fence with their lasy cards, and
I said, we've been touched by Stevie Wonder. And I
think it was you who said, oh my god, Stevie
Wonder touched us, and now we're going to be able to.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
See started laughing so hard because we did. We felt
like Stevie Wonder had just healed us.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
And then crazily, they were giving me Lasik surgery at
a party and you know, I went, I went and
got I call them.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I said, are you people for real? Like isn't They went?

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Not there?

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Really? And I went and I got it and it
was fabulous. I have the close up glasses, but like
that's it.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I do to the I have the close up glasses too. No,
it worked great, I love it. I got it too.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
And when you brought Prairie Bitch your show. Confessional of
Prairie Bitch to Sedona. You actually told this story.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I don't know if it's in the show all the
time or you just did.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
It from my behalf, but epcially because it's good.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I loved it. It was so wonderful.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Did you feel when Stevie Wonder touched me? Did you
feel really like it was like ten thousand volts going through?

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:33):
I mean those are the special moments, you know.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
And I look back on our lives, Allison, I mean,
look at all the beautiful people that we've gotten to meet,
you know, icons that summer no longer here, you know,
and we've gotten to know it's we worked at a
time when it was a snapshot in time. It was
a golden moment for television in my opinion, when there

(53:56):
were only three networks, when our shows were actually watched.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
By a lot of people like Real Time.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Yeah, and we touched lives and I'm just so grateful
for those times and to get to know you. And
I just appreciate you inviting me on your show tonight.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
And you are so as you said about peace, about
finding peace, about searching for things. I actually said I
was going to ask you, can we have you cloned
because if we had about one hundred, maybe one hundred
and fifty more you, I think we could totally fix
everything on the planet.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Ah, you're so sweet.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Well, you know, we're all challenged a little bit now.
There's some energies going on on the planet that we
all have to stay. Yeah, it's a roller coaster, so
we're all doing our work. I certainly on a daily basis,
do my practices and you know, we'll all ride through
it together.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
My dear, Where can people find you? You're on social
media if they want to see you, speak to you,
look at you.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Yes, the two social medias that I really pump our
Facebook Lens Garpelly and Instagram dot com also Glen Scarpelly
all lowercase one word. And then you can also find
out all about my station and everything I do at
Sedona Now TV, Facebook, Sadona Now TV Instagram please like
us and follow us and Sedona Now dot com.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Fantastic And he may or may not be wearing pants
when you see him at Thank you, thank you so
much for being on my show. And ladies, this is
the Alice at Argham Show and I'm Alison.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Love us