Episode 209: Welcome Home Rae!!!

In this episode Wil Milz & co-host 407 Kev welcome their new FEMALE co-host Rae to the show!! We discuss Kendrick & Drake, Baby Reindeer & much more!!!

Episode Transcript

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You gotta go down there and getsomething that pop board chicken SWI I know
that that numb boy that I gotsome jump on strip that on prowl fish,
that's on catfish. I got gowith that down my boy, chicken
Sally. If I close my letme die. I just see an old

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black man in a white apron,a dirty white apron, cook it in
the kitchen. That's that's that hasbeen goddamn is loud in his headphone.
That's actually one of the worst accentsin America. Who would you say was
one of number one? Baltimore.Baltimore got it. Baltimore got the worst
accent in America. Can we turnmy headphones down a little bit? No?

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We really can't. No, no, because because it's spiced and we
all got to say so, goahead of this. I feel like it
wasn't a loud lest Probably wasn't.Those Those are brand news, like you're
the first one, first one.We're using the first one, hopefully the
last one. I'm here, butwe are recording young all right, ladies

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and gentlemen, we are back.This is gonna be a good show.
And what the one thing we aregonna do. We're gonna show in the
lift of time and this ship.Yeah, it was a good show.
Last week we ran two hours though. Oh yeah, that's wild. That
shit was two hours. But itwas a great show though, like we
could have kept going with it.I got things to do. Bro,
let's get into y'all. Welcome backto episode two o nine of the Ald

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Joke Podcast. I'm your host WillMills aka King Dirt back and also being
joined today as we are every weekby my co host mister Fall seven Cave
aka Kevin Dean a a ka LandAll Lando kyl Rizian Sir, I know
you got some shows coming up thisweek? Yeah yeah, aka mister two
oh nine. Staying fine, youknow. Uh shout out to all of

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My boy Will Mill be out there. I host it every week. Uh,

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come through and then you know,we got some shows coming up this
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new dope as venue. So makesure y'all pull up to that. This
Sunday, I will be headlining Singlede Mayo at the Streamline Hotel in Daytona,
Florida. Oh yeah, shout outto Comedy Depro Comedy. So that
should be a good show. Andlast but not least, Lies and gentlemen,
we have announcement. We have anannouncement to make all right. So

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we were in the search of anew YO. This female hosts sound toxic,
so now we talked about that,right. Yeah. I think wal
culture doesn't doesn't want you to sayI'm saying that. Well, we got
to ask cur you know, dothe females are the females okay with it.
I've never had a problem with goodgood because it means what it means,

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right, it's not like it's aderogatory term. It's like midget became
derogatory. Midget means midget bro right. Yeah, yeah, that don't even
sound grammatically correct. Females just don'teven love themselves anymore. They they're offended
by the whole term female. Right, Why A, you're offended by yourselves?
But listen, lets, I needto make this announcement. Were searching

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for a female co host, apermanent stay on the show, and Ray
was so amazing last week that Idon't even feel like interviewing nobody. I
spoke with keV about it. Ispoke to my producer Jason, and we
have decided let's welcome our third permanentco host to the show. Hey aka

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Honey j a k a. TheGreen Eye Bandit can't stand it. Welcome,
Welcome, Welcome you guys. Soshe will be the permanent stay on
the show. You. I appreciateit, that's what's up. So listen,
we needed some female energy on apodcast for I was tired of being

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the female voice. Yeah. Itwas crazy. I was like, you
just don't understand how women feel.Right, Yeah, Now she can take
the cape off and let her doher due diligence pandemic was crazy, super
crazy. But let's get into ajob. For the last couple of weeks,
we've been talking about, uh,the whole Drake and Kendrick fiasco.

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And now finally Kendrick has dropped calledEuphoria, and you haven't heard it yet,
right. I have been getting alot of backlash because also Kendrick saw
my video. Bro saw my video. I fucked that. Y'all could call

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it a reach all y'all want fansout there, I'm saying the niggas saw
my video, and then he usedit. He made it. He used
what I said in what I wasdoing in my video as a bar and
that's not the first sound that's happenedto me. A couple of years ago,
Blue Face got into it with hismother and his sister and he had
to kick him out the crib.Remember that they try to fight his girl.

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So I went to bat for blueFace. I said, y'all to
kick my mother and sister off ofthat shit too, and he reposted that
video that I said. Two weekslater he named his new album and it
was called Dirt Back. I don'tthink I'm raching, son, So how
did your video affect Kendrick this week. But we're gonna play the song.
We're gonna do a quick rundown ofthe song. I want to just go

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through some of the bars that Ithat stood out to me. And he
said something that I said and ifI was doing something in the video,
okay, and he said it.And then also Mal from the Joe Button
Podcast formerly formerly the Joe bi MyBad shout out to Mall Rory he did.

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He did it too, okay,the day after I did my video,
because that video went viral. Yeah, yeah, So I don't think
similar trains of thought could happen,not if it's exact Okay, cool,
cool. I don't know what thereferences are or or I was just accurate,
sure and my depiction and they justwe shared the same sentiment. But
whatever the case may be, Iuse it as fuel and I'm going viral.

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Yeah, here we go, Solet's get it in. We're gonna
take a quick listen to Kendrick Lamareuphoria his response to Drake, Let's go.
It's a hard day to be aDrake fan. Oh we got here
already running back? Did you hearthe first Richard Price did you do you
know what he's saying right there?That was uh, that was I forgot

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what the words are. But it'ssomething that rich It's something from the beginning
of Richard Pryce show. So fromwhat I understand that that is uh backwards
and it says everything that you sayabout me is true. He's uh,
it's in reverse. It's a productionproduction trick, but it's a reverse message.
Everything you say about me is true. Okay, yeah, starting out

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already, all right, okay,okay, so we got the words here,
the superpowers getting neutralized. I canonly watch in size the famous actor
we once knew is looking terror noidand now spiral. And your movie is
just like a degenerate heavy antique isfeeling this taste well calculating that is calculated.

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I can even predict your anglesk storieson the family front, because you
heard me. First of all,this thinker started out with motherfucking Teddy Pendergrass.
You no song that says it's calledinspiration. You're my greatest inspiration.
That's the title of the song.Wow, So I think all of these
things are deliberate. Bro. Yeah, no, my greatest You're my greatest,
You're my lady my greatest inspiration.That's the name of this song,

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the sample they're using. Yeah,it's a hard day to be a Drake
fan. I don't like none ofthis morale. A pathetic master manipulator.
How can mother tales on you?Now? You're not a rap botti shoe,
a scam artist with the host ofbeing accepted. Tommy Hill figure stood
out, but fool woo never hadbeen your collection? How makes music that?
He let you? Fying? Youmake music that passive? That's a

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fact. What's a fact? Imake music that electrified? You make music
that pacifying? Who's them? Younigga? You Drake fan? You Drake
make all types of music. Idon't want to hear that ship. I
think Drake deliberately makes music to makepeople happy. I don't, and that
is not wrong with that, Buthe has different facades that he put on,

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and I don't know to go backin that bag if you have to.
I don't know that pacify and happinessare two synonymous words. I don't
know if I can agree with that. I think he coddles bitch ass niggas.
Okay, now you're saying the wholethird different senter what pacify I think
pacify is like to put to sleepor to uh to baby him, to

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silence spoil them. But I thinkthat you would if you give a bait.
Like realistically, if you give ababy a pacifier if they're upset,
it makes them happy. Right,It's all the same thing. Yeah,
it all leads to the same results, bro. But Drake has so much
versatility and his VI I'm not takingthat away from it. So I can't
even I don't even understand that barbecause he'll give you God's playing. He'll

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give you Lemon Prepper freestyle, giveyour head. Like they're all so different
there, the ranges are so different. What Drake it doesn't necessarily like it's
all still feel good music no matterthe content with with Kendrick, He's gonna
make you like look at yourself inthe mirror. Right that that And also
does Drake do anything that will anythingnew? That that's his own. What

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he will do is copy somebody elseship And now we're talking about style,
but I was saying, how hedone anything? It's like who that's different?
Yeah? What afrobeats? Yeah,but that's somebody else. Shit,
it's not his. Yeah, buthe's he's also introducing all of these other
uh genre were forty two seconds in. We're doing this all right, let's

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keep let's keep it. You're right, I can double down on that line.
But spad his town. There's randommaxicondness. Know you're a massable nipper,
lator individual liar too, But don'ttell no lie about me, and
I won't tell truth about you.Do you remember where that came from?
No, the hot part four,don't tell allow on me. I won't

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tell the truth about you. Sohe letting us know that he been was
talked. That's the same bar heused in that song. Okay, and
then he went off on somebody.He was like, yo, what are
you talking about? He just confirmedhe took about dred. Okay, that's
what I figure because it's the samebar. Sure, sure, sure,
sure, that's a hard bar.By the way, I won't tell you
about you. I feel like blastingthis shit. Bro sh sh sh away,

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Yama. Okay, you're the islandright here is remote? Okay,
thinking about no reaper nigga, I'mreaping what I sow. Okay, got
a bitcher man and the checks andnull in my house like I'm Joe k
hell. Okay, made his ownboy sending them type sale solo ky.
Everybody want to be demon until theyget chipped by your throw away and I
might do a show always a lame. Oh you thought the money the power

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of fame will make you go away? Have you Weather plays? Have you
Weather? Okay, nigga, let'splay. Have you Weather watch your hitting
me down like with a poker face? Have you Weather paid five hundred thous
like to an open case? WhenI have? And I filled that both,
but that came out straight. Ihate when a rap or talk about
guns that somebody died. They turninto nuns and hop online like pray for

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my city? He faking for likesand digital hugs. Is Daddy a killer?
He want to be junior? Theymust have forgot the ship that they've
done them cut that cut that he'sso f This is direct reference. So
look at this this line right here. Does Daddy a killer? He want
to be junior? They must haveforgot the ship that they've done. Is
Daddy a killer? He wants tobe a junior? They must have forgot

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about the ship that they've done.Drake was discovered by who J Prince J
Prince Junior Jay prince is a killer. You want to be a junior.
I must have forgot about the shipsthat you've done. What they do.
They're not responsible for getting Takeoff killedalleged. Allegedly that's who did it.

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They friends, I mean they wasall together and then take Off wound up
getting recipes. They go okay,So he said, YA must have forgot
about the ship that you've done.Watch this bart though, that you must
run in this family. But Naddigets shaky. I park your son the
fear did you hit it Parkinson's letit get shaky. I'll park your son.
Yeah, I love it. Andthis next ball, I'm gonna go

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back. I want you to hitthis next bar Bro this ship. I
was like, whoa god, theship that they've done. The mincha must
run in his family. But Neddigets shaky, I park your son.
The very first time I shot meand Drake, the homie had told me
that Amy this way didn't point downenough. Today, I'll shure you learned
from those mistakes. Did you hita double n taunt bro? You hear
what the fuck he said? Hesaid, the first time I pointed at

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Drake, Drake goes. My homietold me to point it this way.
I didn't point down low enough.He's saying, nigga, I've been pointing
to high you way beneath me.I'm pointing down load now. I learned
from my mistakes. Come on,certain Oh man, these are bars.
Don't do that. Okay, don'tdo that. Correct, don't do that.

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That's not crazy. It was agood bar on and you hear the
next reference coming to watch? Howdo you have told me that you gotta
wring on? Did? I'm readyto double the wage or rather do that
than let a Canadian nikka make packturn in his grave? Cut the finish?
You got shit twisted too? Whatis it? The breaks I hurt
you finish? You on with me? No more? Okay? It's three

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ghost left and not see two fromkissing them, hugging on State and me
I love him to death and aboss ile explain their freeze. It's nothing
nobody can tell me. I don'twant to talk on no selly. You
know I got language curious. There'sno accent you can sell me. You're
colon now you know. I'm aselfish nigga. The crown is heavy.
I pray to ain't my real friendsif not on Waii and w Melle,

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that was a fucking insane son,stop it. Did you catch that?
I ain't catch none of it wasall over my head. This nigga is
no did you catch that? Niggascon tupa andre did you catch it?
Now you're running back, explain itto me, Okay, help me understand.
You know I'm a selfish nigga.The crown is heavy, so he
said, I'm a selfish nigga.Aubrey and Colon Aubrey know I got I'm

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a selfish nigga. The crown isheavy. I pray they my real friends.
If not a ynw Melly, ynwMelly is on trial for killing his
two friends bars. Come on,son, that was crazy. Wash this
next bottle wash this next, thisthe one. This is the one that
got me. This is one thatmade me turn it off. Bro to
push your t line. It's thewhole ship though. Okay, I'm listening

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friends. If not, how wide, I don't like you pop your ship?
That for real? For him thebeef you pushing p let me see
you push your teeth. You betterspinning the skin on him, and you
think about pushing me. He's terrorist'sthoring, I'm terrorists crow for here,
I'm a wooping feet bro. Didthat not flop your edges? Now?

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Who else? Terrence torn? Terrence'thoughton is pushing T's real name? Oh?
Okay, yes, and you knowwho Terrence Crawford is. No,
Terrence Crawford is the powerful pound heavyweightboxing, the powerful pound boxing right now.
Okay, nuggas, bars, whatthe fuck? Right? Are you
familiar with his beef for push yourtee? I've heard of it? Okay,

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so wait, who's beef? Drakes? Are Drake's beef? Push your
teeth? Alright? So Drake fuckwith Gunna and the pushing piece on right?
So he said, call that pushingp Let me see you push your
tee because push your tee body themright, He said, you better off
spend it again on him. Youthink you about pushing me? He's tearing
thoughting, I'm tearing his Crawford.I'm whooping feet, m nigga bars,

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I guess I'm talking to the wrongI mean, I guess I'm not a
boxingized niggas. That is insane.It took me, yo, when I
first listened to shit, I gaveit a six pointy five. M I
upped it now, but when yougo back and listen to a bar from
bar because I'm missing, I wasmissing. I got. I did the
immediate ship. But now I'm like, yo, this nigga really bit this.

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They off person. This is afunny face. You should keep it.
But I'm gonaive about niggas that makegonna want a little like a saint.
This saint's been about critics, nota boat, gimmicks, not a
boat. Who's the greatest says,So it's been about love and hate.
Now let me say I'm the biggesthater. I hate the way that you
walk, the way that you talk, I hate the way that you dress.
I hate the way that you sneakthis. If I catch flight,
it's gonna beat the wreck. Wehate the bitches you fuck because they confused

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themselves with real women. And thennotice I said, okay, yeah,
had I hate that. I hateI hate you know they come from from
U R from rap battles. Allwe got. We're gonna get off there.
But let me let me end itwith this. Okay, So did
you hear that part he said,I hate the way you walk, I
hate the way you talk. Hewas going on for them. So that
comes from this is a is payinghomage, isn't it like a oh the

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Breakfast Club interview? Watch? Okay, it's what what then am I doing?
Here we go again? It comesfrom this lyrically, Absolutely, I
feel I'm not gonna say lyrically,but I feel I'm like, come on,

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I see a whole nother side ofthe coin, sir. What do
you think about little Wind? Wehad a good relationship. I don't know.
I think everything you said about winningexactly what everything you just about all
these I'm like, No, he'spaying how much? Look a little bit
of that's my guy right there.That's why X is necessary in the game

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right there? And now, whydon't you like Drake? I don't like
anything about Drake. I don't likehis boy like he talks about. I
don't like like nothing. You seewhat I'm saying. He was paying how
much to DMX. It's a lotof it's a little bit of a reach.
Why is it a reach? Hesaid? I don't like Kender said,

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I hate He didn't. He didn'treference any of the same same things.
He could two people could just haveseveral DMX sentiment. Bro trust me,
it's deliberate. Okay, you're goingright because that DMX said it like
it's it's the same thing. DMXsaid, Okay, you're paying how much
hit a great earl? Like,come on, so knock it off.
Maybe you see you see you see, you see what it is with these
Drake niggas. He said, it'sa sad day to be a Drake fan,

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so he already he's admitting defeat.The song is hard. Okay,
here's my problem with the song.That last beat that at the end.
I could have done without that.Sure, I could have done without the
intro. I love the tend,like the build up. I like the
the beat, the instrumental choice.Doesn't like the slow singing, the interlude

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style. I would have preferred tohave that at the end of the song.
From the beginning, uh kind oflittle be to sleep. But when
he gets into a bar for bar, the boy spit. He's going hard.
I like this better than Drake's.But Drake still has room. Sure
it wasn't an A lot of niggasare saying it is, and I'm playing.
I'm playing to the crowd, likejust to get the Drake fans mad,

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you know, Drake fans the easy, easy, offended, perturbed easily,
so they think I have let melet you. Drake fans know something.
I don't have a dog. Idon't I'm not emotionally invested in this
shit. Yeah, I don't givea fun Kendrick loss. I'm like he
lost. I'm the exact opposite,and I feel like I'm not invested in
this beef no more because it's allbiased. At the end of the day,

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Drake can say the best ship inthe world, and Kendrick fans are
gonna be like, oh, thatshit was crap, was corny and and
then to the other side, Kendrickjust came out with something hard and and
Drake fans can't admit that it's ahard song. I think I saw my
man actually posted this earlier because wherewell, he's a bigger battle Rap fan
than I am. But I fuckwith battle Rap too. He said it's

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a preference battle. So if you'redeep, like you'll gravitate more to Kendrick,
like if you like to think aboutit, like I don't even deep
as a cop out to I thinklycallyif you like, but if you like
like party, feel good or whatever, because I haven't heard the Drake thing
either. Then you might like Drake'smore. But he was like, these

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are all just like punches if youwill. It's like like in battle Rap,
it's like four bars and then thehaymaker. But with this, they
haven't even gotten to the haymaker.It's just four bars at the end of
the day. Yeah, it's justa yeah, Jazz, it's just a
preference battle. They're not battling rightnow. They dead jogging, they're playing
up. They're doing this ship doubledutch. It's like, yo, my

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nigga, that's that's not the battlerap. But I'm used to right,
It's like nigga, people like,oh, yeah, well, Drake saving
his balls and kids? What areyou saving your You're you're in the war,
bro, the war started, nigga. This is not This is not
the United States and Russia in thesixties. And I feel like probably the
people that are saying that are reallyprobably not even really into like even when
people are like, oh my god, that's so disrespectful, and it's like,

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have you actually watched my nigga?I tell these niggas all the time
bro battle rap, and people like, oh, but they're that's what a
problem with the J Cole apology orI apologize like J Cole, you must
don't watch these these niggas be like, suck my dick, ill fucked your
daughter and then't be out having adrink after after this ship. This is

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light. This is like people reallythink that they're they're in danger of seeing
each other and fighting. Bro.I think it's different in battle rap than
it is in this mainstream war.Uh. Battle rappers are incentivized not to
beat each other up because they're gonnalose the bag I think we've had.
So they'd be like, hey,yo, look we want your to get
aggressive because that's gonnas are gonna losetheir fans. Yeah. Yeah, you

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could potentially lose your fan base.You could lose you could lose record deal,
you could lose sho deals, alltypes of all types of shit,
like if you take it too farand you're offending a certain group, your
life right, because you could diebecause they go there because because their little
niggas got something to prove it,it'll be they fans of a crash out.
What's going on with J Cole isone hundred percent right. If he's

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not built for this to bow out. I think that j Cole did the
one hundred percent because here's the thing, right, you could be on stage
performing like Save Kendrick performed in Toronto, these niggas nigga throw bottom on the
stage and buses ahead of them,like yeah, it's light and it's funny.
But look at how Drake fans feelabout him, Like I've been going

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to full blown war with these niggas, Like they're really mad. It's a
whole cult. That ship is nasty. Here's what I say about Drake fans
all the time. They're not fansof his music, they're fans of him.
I don't know that that's the casefor all Drake fans across the board.
Because Drake is so popular. Ithink that he has a multitude of

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different types of fans. It's hardto meet anybody who doesn't like a Drake
song. So there's all types offans, but the extremists are the ones.
It's just like having Donald Trump fanslike that. The extremes. I'm
a Trump supporter, but I'm notthat right, not storm the Capitol.
So they're gonna affiliate all the tikitowards all the all the whatever other groups,

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clan members and all these other peoplewith the Trump supporters that are just
like yo, I just want lowertaxes. I just want less government involved
in in my my personal life.So, yeah, Drake does have extremist
fans, but I think those arealso the people who know the least about
rap music, because Drake allows peopleto feel like they're a part of the
culture and they're not cool. Allright, Well, as it stands,

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I like where it's going. Ithink Drake has room to respond. I
don't think he's gonna bout he's beentrolling niggas like, oh, Drake should
respond, I think he should.Yeah, I don't think it was that
good enough for Drake to have tosit down, Like I think Kendrick is
a lyricist, and he's proven that. I think you want to keep going.
I think, I mean, Idon't. I'm gonna say this honestly,
I don't know if Drake can goanother I don't know what Drake's new

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angle would be, but he alwayssurprises me with it like this. I
don't even like this angle ship.I feel like everybody, well, Drake,
the reason why I'm sorry to cutyou, I say angle for Drake
because Kendrick is a better lyricsist them. Sure, and I agree with I
mean Drake. Let's give Drake hiscredit. Win is due Bro. Everybody
maker, everybody he's battled was abetter lyrics sistem and he won. I

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push your tea with a better lyricisto him. Meek Mills a better lyrics
They all better lyrics to him.That shit throught me nothing. Son When
it comes to a Drake, Drakeis a different type of animal. So
it's like this nigga gonna make anigga. Back to Back is a club
Benga. Back to Back is agame changer in terms of beef. It's
the first disc record probably probably sinceHit Him Up that even gets played in

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the gets radio. There was anotherone, definitely the biggest a club dis
track of Biger To Hit Him Upwasn't party popping Battle to Hit Him Up?
Yeah, it gets the crowd alittle hype, but nigga, you
don't play play this. If youplay hit Him Up, you probably throw
on and on after that. Yeah, back to back, You're not following

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it with a Meek song because yousee what I'm saying. So I'll say
I don't think that this battle isgonna go the way that hip hop fans
wanted to go, because what's gonnacome down to is whoever has dirt on
the other person, and then it'sjust gonna be a battle of dirt versus
dirt. And that's why. That'swhy I feel the way of the Drake

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and Pusher was going that he didnasty. He didn't win necessarily because he
was a better rapper. Her barswere better. Whether you agree or disagree,
that's fine. Hated the route Pushestook. Yeah, but he just
says he's a better rapper than that. Right, it was nasty what he
did. He didn't he didn't haveto. Well, I think he had
to do that because Drake is thebigger artist. So niggas a niggas weren't

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gonna care. I think because thedirt existed, Yeah, it existed.
It's like, Yo, I've gotthis bombshell on this nigga at the world
to know about, and this righthere will kill him and it's gonna give
me the notre audience. Potentially,it had the potential to almost fuck.
It sidelined him for a little while. Yeah, it really sidelined it.
Fucked Drake up, bro, whichis crazy because every rapper has illegitimate kids

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who doesn't have a random care Well, well yeah, but Drake doesn't have
that persona his his baby mother isa prostitute. Bro. She's a porn
I mean, she's a porn starstar. That's nasty to have that idea
about for Drake. Drake is thegood boy I love you. That was
a stain. Uh yeah, Iput a big chicken. I think y'all

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got it. I think y'all gotthe boy misunderstood. Drake is not a
good I love you boy, allright, But that's what you can't tell
when he's a fuck boy. He'sa wander. Everybody knows he's a fuck
like like like the ship with Millie. Bobby's Joe is nasty. That's nasty.
You know about that? Right?Look great? Not paying attention.
See, I don't know. I'mgonna be honest. Do you know Bobby

(27:22):
Joys? No? I don't knowmuch. All right, all right,
okay, you watch Stranger Things.I watched the first season. Okay,
so you know who eleven is?Yes, Drake and her had a friendship
and it was like some weird textmessage going on I miss you, Like,
yeah, that's nasty. First ofall, she's grown now. But
at the time, bro, thenuh, she was younger. He was

(27:45):
like fourteen. She was fourteen.But there was nothing. There was nothing
inappropriate. Nigga wasn't saying nothing crazy. But here's the thing. He was
being friendly. There was. Butthe thing about it is because it's Drake,
people will bad. You know howthat go? Bro? If niggas
like you, then oh that itwas Strake though, like, come on,
it was nasty. You're grown man, haven't relationship right? I no,

(28:08):
no, I get it, Iget it. They I mean I
don't think he's done anything because sheactually defended him. Yeah, she was
like, yo, why the fuckwe can't be like she was a kid.
She went off on people for sayingthat. But yes, that is
creepy. I don't know, butit's not creepy because it's Drake though.
That's how it goes, and peoplehate people hated that. But I think
that like when you're fans, that'swhat I'm talking about extremists, There's gonna

(28:30):
be people who are gonna but likecontext matters that ship. When go through
all of our messages, you're neverseeing me like, Yo, what are
you wearing? What are you doing? And now I wish I was inside
you right now, Like if he'ssaying ship like that, Yo, let's
kill this nigga. Well that's that'swhy I'm up. I'm not and I'm
not saying he's that, but that'snot what grooming is. Yeah, yeah,
grooming is doing hey, that's yeah, but grooming there needs to be

(28:52):
some evidence of grooming down the road. There needs to be some results of
it, and you just get blownup before ab Hey. Well so I
mean I'm not saying he's that,yeah, but I'm saying it didn't go
there when nobody even insinuated that justbecause it was Drake. Yeah. But
then niggas is just doing which huntersoff of what seems like it now because

(29:15):
now here's the nasty this on theflip side of that, because you got
Kendrick now, who's also a belovedguy. Now they're rehashing that ship.
Mm hmm. It's nasty, bro. This whole battle is crazy because all
the niggas is doing is just rehashinginternet jokes. They're taking things that they
saw on Twitter that oh Drake's notblack enough. He says that n word

(29:36):
weird. He says nigga weird.Yeah, he has a relationship with or
a young girl, and he's beenknown for dating young or hanging out with
young bitches a lot. They're takingall of the fodder that has been set
on Twitter for years about cold too. Oh even Kanye when he made the
bar Oh yo, your music putsbitches to sleep. You're not saying nothing
new. You're just saying what theInternet has or what Twitter specifically has been

(29:59):
saying for you years. So Idon't find that creative. I don't find
that interesting. This is nasty.It's boring to me. It is Drake
is the only one taking unique takeswhere we're like, oh shit, I
didn't even I didn't even know theroute to your point that he was gonna
go with Kendrick, and he keepson going in different unique routes. The
Taylor made the dropping give me fifty, like fifty percent of your publishing is

(30:21):
going is going elsewhere. But asthat was all cool, we don't we
don't know anything about Kendrick. Soeverything he abou Kendrick's gonna be new ring
And I know I'm speaking, I'mspeaking from a place of bias because I
know that I'm a Drake fan,but I feel like his angles, he's
at least taken. He's not takinglike jokes from the internet and applying it
right. And also to these niggas, uh benefit, they don't have no

(30:45):
jokes to crack on like Drake isis just one of those artists that people
have been taking shots at. Andthere the material well, yeah, the
materials there, you know, thirtyminutes say yes. See, I don't
want to talk about it that long. But we got it out the way.
We had to. Let's get intosome ship where we could get Ray
included, because she don't give afuck about this rap shit. She over
here texting her accountants and ship's right, go over there texting her man like

(31:08):
he ain't. So tell me whathappened with checking her line of account to
see if there's money on it.I will say that I remembered his post.
I was like, did you sayjabs? So what you said about
So look, Ray made a suggestionto both of us last week on the
show, and I listened and youdid too. We're talking about that.
In finish she said we should watchBaby Rain did Yeah, So I said

(31:32):
you know what, and that wasyou was about the third person who said
that, and I'm like, youknow what, let's shut it out.
Thank you, by the way,that great record. I hate being you
know, before you go any further, I hate being put on. I
hate when people put me on thepopular ship. That's why I never watched
Game of Thrones. I never watchedBreaking Bad, I never watched The Walking
Dead because so many people hype thoseshows up and by the time I watch

(31:52):
it, I don't even like theymight be great shows, but like the
hype is too big. Yeah,but for the record, Breaking Bad and
Game of Thrones is not hype.Ship is really that. Yeah, But
then I feel you because I willit will. It took me a very
long time to get into Game ofThrones because of the real and then it
lets you down in the end,right like medieval fantasy. Yeah, me

(32:13):
too. Game of Thrones is theperfect show for me because you're adding sex,
violence and you you know what yougot to do. You know what
you gotta do. When people makesuggestions to me, I need to know
what else you watch. Yeah,I need to know what your credibility like,
right, because because if you tellme you'll watch Game of Thrones and
you're a fucking fan of fucking goddamn. It's a trash show. Yomo girl,

(32:35):
I listened in to you fu youlike yeah, love ky Gilbert girls.
I will never know. I'm notwatching Rory and and Piper. The
name was, oh you talking aboutCharmed? That was Piper Phoebe my ship
because I had a crush on ListenMolonald, she's bad. She's bad now.

(32:58):
I think when Shannon Doherty was ship. Oh yeah, but then we
found out she was a bit allout super Hollywood, stop her super big
yo? Why why do to heterosexual? Black bed? All of this tea
about Shadded Doer? But that's whywe're great comedians. Because I didn't know
you watched charm Nigga, What howgay would it be to have? I

(33:29):
thought I couldn't hear myself. Buthow suspect would it be if I just
threw a Charmed watching party for allof like the old schools, if I
had wings and high. You're watchingit now? If you watch it now,
bro Son of Technology, it's crazy, nasty, nasty. Use it
back there. That's all of themshows, Small Bill, Buffy, the

(33:51):
Vampire, Slayers Buffy. Now,Buffy was never mean. But here's my
let me my reason for watching Charmbecause I wanted to fund them. Yeah,
but then you got a wild sexdentlygot into the storyline, tied a
crush on him. Remember I goback to elisab Lonna with Who's the Boss?
Yeah? Yeah, and she waslook I'm saying like she was my

(34:12):
childhood. So when she was onCharm, I watched it anyway and then
accidentally fell into this fucking yeah charmedloophole. I'm like, oh, ship,
I'm a fan. Now that's crazy. So you watched it because you're
a horny ass nigga. I watchedit because I have two older sisters and
no brothers and we only had oneTV and her I got five sisters.
We watched whatever my sisters wanted towatch. So I knew everything about Seventh

(34:34):
Heaven. I knew Dawn, Iswear, and I see your face,
yo, your seventh seven. It'sgonna sound wild to you, see Ruby,
Are you talking about the youngest girl? Bro? Uh, she's grown
now, but he's still a nastynigga looking at her, I was like
five on the show. Do youthink alright? Watched this. Do you

(34:55):
do you know who? Uh?Uh? Did you watch My wife and
Kids? Yes? Uh, thelittle one Katie? Right? You see
now Katie's bad. You all sawnasty Nigga for that. No, I
didn't watch it when she was little. I watched her now, but it
still feels weird, Like it feltweird of me forgetting on Game of Thrones
on. I watched it from whenthe youngest sister Aria the final season,

(35:21):
Nigga, she pulled them titties outand was fucking word. I couldn't believe
it because because yeah, it wasn'teight to eighty seasons, right, So
the first season she was like ten, bro. Then by the last season
she was grown. I'm like,yo, we really watched yo. Hold
on, it felt weird, justlike it feels weird to look at Katie
to Parker Posey to speak back tomy wife and kids. Did you hear

(35:45):
the rumor that Jennifer Freeman and DamonWaynees were having a secret affair. That's
not a secret they did, Okay, I mean I didn't know. I'm
saying I'm I'm mad at them,Bro, that's crazy. Why because you
played the father on the show.There's a conflict of interest and nig like,
I'm not listen. You saw boysin the hood, right, yeah,
nigga, fucking uh uh uh,You're about to blow my mind with

(36:07):
some shit, sup good and Junior? Yeah, and Neil Long what was
the fuck furious? Style? WasLaurence Fishburne? Damn the same age he
played his father though? Yeah,that's different though. You know what I'm
saying is they around the city.The age different things that much. She
just looked young. She's like myage, bro. I think he was

(36:29):
in her forty He was probably noJennifer Freeman. Yes, she's probably thirty
five now, Okay, how isDamon Wins He was probably thirty five then,
and she was over twenty. Shewas twenty one. She might have
been like fifteen or sixteen. Nah, she might have been eighteen. She
was an that one girl. Ithink it was Beyonce's Beyonce's mom's husband has

(36:52):
a daughter who still looks young asfuck. Like I can't think of her
name. Beyonce's mom ex husband okay, okay, has a daughter who's an
actress. Okay, she's old asfuck, but she just got a young
girl. I always play teenagers Okay, that's true. The situation. I
got a lot of people who arein their thirties, like all the Castle,

(37:14):
the grease. Uh, you're notfam I'm almost fifty, bro,
Yeah I look yeah, I'm almostforty two. Yeah. Really, yeah,
you're your forties. No, I'mthirty five. Okay, no,
but you don't even look thirty five. I need to look up Jennifer Freeman's
age. I know what I've beendoing lately. I have been getting lifted

(37:36):
and watching movies our series Lifted thePeople. So are you out of the
loop with your weed lingo? No, I thought she was talking about something
different. I honestly just be tryingnot to say I'd be high as fuck
getting lifted is crazy. I thoughtshe had a gospel yeah period, I'm
a classy based individual. No,but I thought she had like a fork

(37:57):
lift in her house, like likemovies back, like he's by you watching
that the perspective. Wow, that'sthe small laceister. When she was little.
What's her name, Jonny's niggas Megangood Ud, that's my boom,
Megan Good Still to this day,that's mine boom, Megan Good. Listen
Jennifer Freeman's thirty eight years old.She's almost forty. Bro, and Damion

(38:22):
went but here. But here's somethingabout the Damon the Waynes brothers. All
of them, them motherfuckers look youngas Ship Marlin is in his fifties.
Damon Wayne is sixty three. Doyou see what he looks like? Though?
Bro, Yeah, they don't age. They vampires, all of them.
That that's a questionable relationship. Ifyou're talking about grooming. That's wild.
Bro. Okay, he's okay,Let's let's get into this real.

(38:45):
He's thirty five. Let's lit's getno, no, we gotta we gotta
get you know what, because wegot sidetracked. We did we went left
two. But let's go left realquick, right, because and we're gonna
make this real quick at what age? Because it's all right, here's my
thought process. Right, ask thequestion first, what's the question? No,

(39:07):
I have to I have to dodisclaimers for us because it's gonna sound
wid if I just asked the question. Right. My thing is women mature
faster than guys. Right, Ihave four daughters, okay, right,
twenty five, twenty three, twentyone, and eight. Got it?
If my daughter was seventeen and shesaid she was eating a twenty year old.

(39:27):
I wouldn't have a problem with itbecause I understand twenty seventeen year old
boys act like little fucking boys,like Bro, they did. Seventeen year
old girls are like twenty something yeldLike, the maturity levels is different.
I'm telling you, bro, thethree year difference seventeen she's okay, watch
this. But I don't think theywas in a relationship. I think they

(39:50):
was fucking yeah. No, Iheard that they were like, I don't
think there was no relationship. Iheard they were no big Okay. It's
almost when you go to the poems, when you go to when you go
to the to the to the stripclub, strippers ain't forty something that bits
just me the twenties. Who fuckingthe forty year old stripper? Old niggas
go to the strip club, they'redance. They're watching twenty one year old

(40:13):
girls dance. Sure, but theythey's the that's the goal, that's what
they're fantasizing over. I feel likethat's still different than being seventeen. And
no, no, no no.I I was just saying that you can't
go by age all the time.You gotta go by legalities, because let's
be real here, Let's be real. People don't change loss change women like

(40:37):
older men and men like younger women, period, point blank. Right,
people putting numbers on it just tomake it seem fucking creepy. Now,
what's creepy is when a girl isfourteen and a nigga trying to be with
her, right right. It hasa lot to do with the way the
woman looks. It's not that it'sthe way because I could see a chicken

(40:59):
she's seventeen, like damn, andnow I find she had seen I'm like,
oh, falling back. But youcan't tell you how you lined me
up the other day, Right,we did a show at the other bar,
and this is kind of little left. But I'm gonna tell you what
what eyes do. So I'm doingmy training jokes will sage you know what
I'm saying, Like, you're notgay if you see a transgendered woman and

(41:21):
you think she's a woman of vision, that's not the gay part. The
gay part is when you find outthat she got a dick and you still
go through with it. Now you'rea homosexual, bro because you know she
got a dick. Yeah, Idon't agree with that. That's wild because
the dick is what makes it gay. If you got a pretty face and
big titties, that's the part thatattracted me. Will you pull a meat

(41:43):
out? Nah, nigga, you'rea dude now, right, So just
like, just like, just like, this is what makes you a creep.
If you see a girl who's fifteenand she looks twenty five, you're
not a creep for looking at herand being attracted to her, for going
through once you find it out,Yeah, that's when you're fucking creepy.
So what you're saying is intentions matter. Ride. Intent matter is not the

(42:06):
fucking visual. The visual and whatage does the intent? The age difference,
that's what we're trying to figure outhere, because I do I do
agree with you. Seventeen and twentythat's not a big age difference, but
seventeen and thirty two and you're tryingto and maybe you're not trying to be
with her, but you're at leastpositioning yourself in a manner to make her

(42:28):
feel like that so that you canat least fuck. Is that not creepy?
Well, oh, mom, gonnamake this point again. When niggas
go by pussy from a prostitute.How do you think the prostitute is depends
so different. It's a difference betweensexy relationships, right, But they might
they might not be inquiring and theymight not care with oh, niggas not
asking. But if you know abits is in high school, no,

(42:49):
that's wild, and you're thirty seventeen. How she wasn't in her teens.
Though, I don't like the argumentbecause the justification is always biased based on
what side of the argument you landon. The way you just said that
women mature faster than men, theywill use that argument to be like,
hey, she should be allowed todate somebody a couple of years older than

(43:10):
her. But once you start talkingabout niggas who date younger girls, that's
never a question that comes into play. They always go, oh, yo,
well, you don't mature until you'retwenty five, and your brain doesn't
have it doesn't have all the functions. So you're grooming these women. You're
taking advantage of these women. Butat the same time, that man could
feel like, yo, she's myemotional intelligence equal. We're on the same

(43:31):
platform because she's eighteen and I'm thirtyfive, and we have the same emotional
intelligence. Niggas never want They onlywant to argue the biases that they see
fit for the conversation. But that'sall that matters though, right. I
think at the moment it's a questionof morality, and I think that everybody

(43:51):
gave the whole company. I'll watchthis. The only thing that makes it
and we can be real here,the only thing that makes it moral.
All the law are the laws andright, because if you go to look
and if you go to the SouthAfrica, yeah, where Asian concent is
twelve, yeah, or Brazil theAsian concent is fourteen. But niggas wow

(44:12):
for knowing that. But also Iknow that too. I also feel like
just because things are the norm,right, different regions of that make it
right, that argument because hate itdoesn't. But think and and I feel
you in that right because I don'tthink the nature of people ever change.

(44:37):
I think men see we're visual guysor visual beings because we lead, whether
niggas want to admit it or not. Nigga, if you're a man,
heterosexual male, you lead, youlead with looks, you lead with looks.
It don't matter how fucking old.Even having these conversations says, you
have these conversations of ethics because wedon't want to look like creeps in front

(44:58):
of it. Right. The onlyhe's a nigga w a fucking sixteen year
old if it was legal and hewasn't. But we know if you say
that around women, women are gonnalook at you crazy, like, yo,
why would you even want that?But women say the same thing every
time. What do you have incommon with a sixteen year old? Which
it happens though age, right,I'm trying to fuck I think it happens

(45:21):
as you age. Because keep inmind, I will say this, there
are definitely times where I'm like,shorty sixteen, but she knows she didn't
want no little sixteen, right,yeah, because you know what I mean,
Like I was in high school beforeI was sixteen, and I remember
the sixteen year old. But now, like, if I know a forty

(45:43):
year old is fucking with a twentyone year old, I'm automatically going to
be like, not necessarily that it'sbad, but like, nigga, you're
looking at us bad, looking athim like a predator, Like he's taking
advantage of the situation. Get himas a predator in the sense of you
know, like because I know people, I know older men who do definitely

(46:04):
pray in a sense on young girl. But I'm not automatically assuming that that's
what you're doing. It's just thatit's a conversation that you having, Like,
I know, these little bitches ain'tgonna trip on, so it's like
you're going your intention behind it isbecause you don't want to have to be
held accountable. Sure, you knowthat they're gonna be with the ships,
whatever the ship is. That's thecase every age. Why do we only
have that conversation with age difference.I don't think it's if me and you

(46:27):
are the same age, I canmanipulate you, and I could be more
emostly intelligent, it would be morewell. I guess it also depends on
the person. I think that itwould be harder to I think it's harder
to manipulate someone the same age.You don't think there's no thirty since you
don't think there's no thirty five yearold naive, non experience man, I
don't think with his life experience couldbe more experienced than a definitely person.

(46:52):
I don't. I think I thinkgrooming doesn't have anything to do with age,
because these girls that be at theseNBA game be fucking twenty one,
nineteen years old and they know exactlywhat they're doing. Yeah, they're there
to find a nigga with money,regardless of how old he is. Sure,
So you can't groom a nineteen yearold and her intentions is to get

(47:13):
a nigga with money and he's establishedmost of the time if he's not a
star, he's a nigga with abunch of money, he's a little older.
I think you can. I thinkyou can groom beyond the intention of
the original connection, right or likethe original intent. So she the ninety
year old may very well be cominginto the situation like I want to just
get a nigga with money, andhe on and him knowing that he can

(47:37):
also set in position and play withher mind to make that's insane and duct
that level of accountability. That's thatyou just did that? What I agree
with her? Are you? Areyou serious that you don't think that that
can happen? Like, that's levelsand tiers to respectfully respectfully, if a
woman, if you're grown legal,if you're a legal of legal age and

(48:01):
you put your little sexy dress onand you got your titties out and you
jumping on only fans and you talkingabout, Yeah, I'm looking for a
nigga with money, and that niggaplay you at your own game. Fuck
out of here. That ain't grooming. That's not grooming. I think that
grooming is just that before you offeryour grooming has a level of innocence to
it. I think that grooming isjust a nasty word. There are right,

(48:25):
right, So so grooming. Ithink in order to be groomed,
you have to be oblivious to what'shappened as a level of naivete. Yes,
let's do that. Then what iseverybody's definition of grooming because it would
be different. Okay, since we'rehere, let's let's let's kill two birds
of one stone. At the beginningof this conversation, I stated that Ray

(48:45):
told us to watch a show right, naming his show. If anybody watched
it, it's called Baby There.This show was amazing for guys who don't
know. At the start of theshow is the guy, Yeah, creator
are We're gonna go back? Shoutout to Josh Kast. Let's get to
a little bit. We'll talk toyou on this after we finished the discussion

(49:06):
about the show, and we aregoing to be over our fuck it,
I'll edit no, no, it'sgood show. I'm saying for editing purposes
in case I didn't know. Thestalker chick she's she's upset. Yeah,
she's trying to suit Netflix y,which is wow, because he said that

(49:27):
he literally went out of his wayto try even make it for her to
not even be able to but shebut she's a psychopath. She wants to
be seen. That's her thing.And she was trying to say this bitch
is ugly and fact and I'm attractive. And then they show pictures of her.
She looked exactly like the chick let'sshe came out, Oh no,
I saw you want to see whatshe work? She's let's get into the

(49:50):
show. So the show is basedoff a guy who was a struggling comedian
and he I liked that in thefirst couple of episodes he was in it
with the fat bitch with the fatbitch, and I know y'all thought the
same thing. I thought, like, Yo, why is this nigga dealing
with this ship? And it wasso dope that it got into the park

(50:13):
where he actually was groomed. Yes, And that kind of tied into what
I was saying, because he knewwhat was happening to him, but because
he was so scarry. You knowwhat, Now I got to think about
what ra said because it's kind ofthe same thing, because he knew to
do was grooming him, but hewanted what he wanted out of the deal,

(50:36):
that he dealt with it anyway.And then and then also he didn't
deserve it. No, no,no. What she said was a person
can know what the person is doingto them, but the other person,
in the sense could take it toofar. Like he was cool with the
fing and the ass that was crazy, and he sorted watching the shit over
his hand, that was wild.Spoiler alert for people who don't watch the

(50:58):
show. Well, he was drunk, he tolerated, No, he came
back. I think the thing islike going back to the nineteen year old
with it. So the thing ishe could have been like, I want
to genuinely maybe have a relate,I want to get something out of this
relationship as well. But then someoneknowing that, someone who is so hungry

(51:19):
for X, Y and Z,you could manipulate them to do anything for
you. And then I think thatis that's different than what we was talking
about it. And also that's that'swhat's going on with that's what happens,
and this is why the Harvey Weinsteinpeople, all these people are coming out.
Yeah, but oh wow, shedoes look like her. Wow?

(51:39):
Is that? No? I thinkthat's the actual actress. But the other
ones, the other one is notas fat, the other one is not
as fat, but she does looka lot like less. I saw a
picture of her. Her is beyondHarvey Richard. Is this one that's her?
Right there? Wow? She doeslook like her. Yeah. So

(52:01):
on the show itself, it wasconfusing a little while. And then and
then get to like episode four,right, well, it was confused at
the Beginning's like, okay, whenhe when he was dating a transgender woman
and then he kind of like fellback. I'm like, you gotta watch
the episode where he got groomed tounderstand he didn't know what he was Like.

(52:25):
Can I ask you a question,as a heterosexual male, did you
want to see that transgender relationship succeed? Were you rooting for them? Yeah?
Okay? Cool? I was wonderingthat because I was a nigga.
Who was I felt I felt Ifelt bad for the transendent woman. Yeah,
I felt bad for she was agreat girl. She did nothing to
deserve well, right, like likelike yeah, it's like it's like,

(52:46):
here's my thing. I find thatyou transgendered. I'm out And she was
honest. She didn't deceive him.Did you know she was transgender before they
mentioned? Oh no, he Imean he also deliberately seeked out right,
that was never an issue for him. It wasn't a fact that you're right.
But my thing is, don't dothat to somebody. I'm into this,

(53:08):
that's my thing about. I gota problem with d l niggas,
Like, don't come out saying youstraight like you like me? No,
nigga, you suck. If it'sa transgendent woman with a dick, nigga,
you gay? Bro? Respectfully,bro, what's homosexuality? One a
man likes another man? Right?Is a transgender woman? A man is

(53:29):
a woman, a woman. Womanis a woman. Why biologically you have
a vagina? I believe she's atrans woman, which is different than assists
woman or a woman. You oneof those good the never don't never use
sis in front of me. Ilike, if we're just having a conversation
of breaking down the two My thingis are biological. Some people would say,

(53:52):
I respect if a transgendered person believessure that they're of another I'll respect
you enough and I'll call you whatyou want to be called. That doesn't
mean it changes. But I know. Yeah, So I know that you
were born a man and you havea dick. So therefore, because I
know you have a dick, I'mhomosexual for being attracted to that. So

(54:14):
if they don't have a dick,is that does that make it right?
Same thing you just tell me youwas No, I'm out. I'm out
if they went through the procedure andeverything still and you cannot have a baby
with you, can I ask youa question if you were dating a woman
for years who had the sex changeoperation and you were in love with her,
and then you found out five yearslater she was like, Hey,
I used to be a dude.I know your initial reaction is going to

(54:36):
be angry, but do you areAre you gay because of that? Do
you think you're gay? No?Because you were deceived? Are you You're
not gay for being deceived? Soyou're only gay if you know? Yes,
It's all about intentional in his mind, he believes and intentionality, intention
and purpose. I mean, allright, so all right, and I
respect that if you call yourself aheaterosexual male, seeing a person with a

(54:59):
dick should turn you the fuck off, bro, It should be like because
I should turn you off, ordon't turn like I can still visually be
attracted you, like, oh shit, don't you if you was a real
girl. God, you know whatI'm saying. I can see you being
like that. But that meat popout, nigga, just the thought of
it is. It's crazy to you. Right, And here's the problem with
what happens nowadays that makes somehow makesme homophobic. No, I don't think

(55:23):
so. It means I'm a heterosexualmale, like period. I think that
it makes you a little transphobic.No, it doesn't, only because you
don't believe that trans women believe thatthey're women. No, no, no,
I said no. I said,I believe that they believe it.
Sure, but I don't know youdon't. I don't have to feed it
to your that's your delusion. Ithink that I think that that transphobic thing

(55:47):
is such a weird space because Ican disagree with any you could think you
the smartest person in the world andnot be like your action show or what
I know is shows that you're dumb. That doesn't mean And and here's the
thing, what if you're if you'recalling me a name for having a preference
and what what what's your what's thename of you? For that? Right?

(56:08):
Like because you're calling me, oh, you don't believe that you don't
agree with me that I'm a woman, Like, hey, I'm not disrespecting
you. So you say heterosexuals thatdon't believe so you're heterot And why should
and this this is gonna sound fuckedup, bro, but it's a fact.
Why should I call you something?Why should I accept you for who

(56:31):
you are when you couldn't accept whoyou were born as? That's not fair
at all, Bro, I keephaving to be like the defender. That's
not fair. Yeah, but Idon't have all the couldn't accept yourself,
but you're asking me to accept theperson you've become. I think a lot
of people don't even feel that way. I think that that's once again,

(56:52):
like Drake fans, there are extremists. And here's another thing, agenda and
let me let me, let mebacktrack. So the night of the comedy
show. Mm hmm. I gotup there. I didn't say anything disrespectful.
I said, you know, ifyou was, you're not gay.
If you if you find a transgenderperson attractive, you're gay if you go
through with the actions. I didthat bit, and then right after that,

(57:14):
this motherfucker brings up a transgender woman. Yeah, she was next on
the list. You actually bumped her. So you are transphobic and you out
here doing trans So she got upthere. I had knew it was it
was a man, but I neededconfirmation. So she was cool. Oh,
super cool, super cool. Shetook some shots to me, let

(57:35):
me, let me give some uhhell on, she took some shots at
me. Yeah, like you know, she should have on my content whatever,
but she shooed on your content.Yeah, she said, yeah,
has some transjors, but it wasn'tfunny, like, oh, okay,
it on your comedy but not yourcontent. But people have been doing trans
jokes all night. So it waspersonal and and a lot of transjos.
A lot. I wasn't. Iwasn't uncomfortable at any point. I even

(57:59):
you know afterwards, you know whatI'm saying, Like, I wasn't uncomfortable
with all she was. She wasalright, kind of funny. I'm not
uncomfortable around gay people. I mean, nigga, I went to allan ally
bro. Sure, I grew upin ballet, like I've been around gay
dude. I got Gabyn one ofmy Yeah, one of my daughters.
One of my daughters is married toa woman. She's a woman. She's
married to a woman, like I'mI'm in. I feel like that's so

(58:21):
much more acceptable for heterosexuals than itis to uh a gay man. Would
you be okay if if your sonwas a homosexual? No? Yeah,
see it's always more acceptable, okay. And I'm gonna tell you he's why
I would accept him and love him. It's not because he's gay. It's
because he's not like me, andyou want your son to be it.
That's why. And that's the that'sthat's why I men get a bad rap.

(58:42):
They call him me and homopau becausethe son is gay. It's no,
it's like, no, I raisedmy son to be like me.
Do you marry a woman and andand keep my legacy going? Do you
think that gay is a monolith?Is it possible that you could have a
son that's just like you, butjust happens to be into men. No,
no, what if this nigga istough, he's not. He's not
flamboyant, he's not feminine. He'smale presenting. He just has a preference

(59:07):
and he likes men. No,you can't be. You're not like me
if you like one. That's soyour whole identity is tied into the fact
that you get women and you likethat. I'm heterosexual and I think I'm
not Listen, you could be.I know some nigga. My gym is
full of gay dudes. Like,they're dudes in the world, but they
will beat your ass brou the firemen. They're wrestlers. Like, there are

(59:29):
a lot of heterosexual well alleged heterosexualdude dominated professions. But I would never
say they're not masculine. They're made. Just because you're gay doesn't mean you're
not masculine. You don't have tobe flamboyant and like, So, what
does that look like for your son? You said you would love him and
accept him, but but you Iwould be upset about it, Okay,

(59:52):
and that's the right. Well,what does does that look like to you?
Like, are you treating different.I don't think I would treat him
different. I mean, I lovehe's just mad. He just pout and
family. Did I think it'll bea while say this is because all right?
So, so I have a Ihave a five year old son,
and I have a twenty three yearold son. So my twenty three ye
old son. That dude is me. Like, he's yeah, so kiro

(01:00:13):
super cool dude, right, Cairol'sfive, right, and he plays football
like me. He plays basketball.He's an artist, and you know he
looks at butts and like, yes, like he does all of those things,
right. A lot of gay niggaslook at butts too, that's cool.
So he does all of these thingsright. So most men want their
son to follow in their footsteps.They want to have their son to have

(01:00:36):
a son. And it's the legacything. Sure, a lot of people
make it out to be a homophobicthing. It's actually a legacy thing.
And it's and I think you wouldif your son was gay. Do you
think it would be upsetting to essentiallywatch your legacy? And yes, even
though you have a twenty three yearold son who's going to continue your legacy,
it doesn't matter. You want thatname to live on. You wanted

(01:00:59):
to live on. And and Ithink that it's so many gays now h
more than straights. No, Ijust mean it's he's this thing said,
there's enough gays. No, there'senough. I think. I think,
I think that people shitting on heterosexualmen for wanting their sons to be straight.

(01:01:22):
It is fucked up, bro,Well, who's doing that? I
hear o time. I don't knowthose are the that's not the algorithms.
I hear it all the time.But here's the thing, I've never seen
them. And this is some realship. I have never in my life
depicted on TV. I've never seena good dad who's active in his son's
life and his sons. Can Ibe gay? Never, I've never seen

(01:01:43):
before. I'm not saying it doesn'texist. I've never seen no shit like
that. I don't think that it'snecessarily the fact that men don't want their
children to be gay. That's theissue. Are their sons to be gay?
I think it's when I've heard ofsomeone calling a parent home moophobic,
it's been their reaction like they're like, I'm going to disregard you. You

(01:02:06):
no longer exist. Yeah, likeI think that is what makes it modern
family, for your example. ButI think that I think that because I
think in general, like you alwayssay, you kind of got to explain
ship, right, like, becausepeople will just take narratives. I think
that because it's always so generalized,like if you don't want your son to
be gay, you're homophobic, hypotheticalsituation, because I think that they're all

(01:02:30):
just lumping that into if you don'twant your son to be gay, then
that means you will probably denounce themexactly at once. Of course, I
love my son to death and Iwill accept it. Yeah, but that'll
mean not fucking gotto. Like it'slike saying I don't want my son to
be paralyzed, right, you're notbeing handicapped. I want him to have

(01:02:52):
I want to be I want tobe professional. I want to be a
drill rapper. But if he is, I love him. And and they
only do that when it comes tolike this sexual preference, bro, and
not for nothing. That's private.That's your business, right. Oh,
it's another video we gotta get todude. That's that's gonna be one.

(01:03:15):
But let's finish with this baby rainthere, baby reindeer. Okay, my
thoughts on it. It was confusingfor the first couple of episodes because I
didn't understand why he was putting upwith that shit. Why he tolerated this
abuse. White tolerant this abuse.Why is he letting his girlfriend, the
transgender woman, Why is he allowingher to get her ass whooped and her

(01:03:35):
hair ripped out and not go tothe police. But then when you saw
what happened to him, I waslike, oh shit, it gets like
it gets deep because I said,damn, I could relate, not that
I got groomed and got my fingersput in my ass. Yeah, but
how can you relate? I canrelate in a way to where I've been
through things as a kid and somepeople, some people have done fuck,

(01:04:01):
I know what the outcome of thatis. And I'm like, I took
you ever had somebody do you dirty? And you took pity on them because
you know they probably went through thesame ship. Like for me, I
went through foster care. I wentthrough foster care. I went through group
home. Lying like a motherfucker goddamngroup home. I grew up in foster
care. You know what I'm saying. And I know some of the traumas

(01:04:24):
that's experienced, not mostly on mynot on my part, but you've seen
it. I've seen it happen tomy foster brothers. I've seen it happen
to family members. I've saw whatthose people are capable of, and I
have I've had people attempt or sometimesdo me dirty, and I'm like,
damn they And then I found outthat they had a similar life story to
mine, So I'll give them apast hurt because of that, right,

(01:04:46):
And it's like that's deep, bro, Like you will allow the abuse because
you've experienced the abuse, so youget why they did that. I like
what he said when he was like, yo, I didn't want to call
the police on her if I didn'tdo it for him. Yeah, if
this other nigga abused me, Ihaven't. I haven't even held him accountable.

(01:05:11):
This is clearly an ill woman.And I'm liking some of the attention
I'm getting. Let's be honest,I'm liking this. This is what I'm
benefiting. Right, And then atthe end it all came like when he
said he wrote that whole the wholebook, and then he said I felt
sorry for her, and then younotice the end he becomes what he becomes
with psychos complete. That's that's likethe insinuation, like he's in now,

(01:05:33):
he's in the ball crying and dudegave him a free drink. I don't
think that My take on that isnot that it insinuated that. I think
that there's many ways that anybody couldn'tinterpret it. But for me, it
just came about like he's her now, No, not he's her at all.
It's just like wow. It couldbe interpreted as like wow, a

(01:05:56):
single act of kindness because we allhave been in Yeah, would put up
the Chick fil A and forgot yourdamn card after you put up to the
window and they are still nice.They would be like you could just you
could get free food from Chick filA. But it's like we've all experienced
a form of niceness in a darkmoment that nobody else knows that we're having.

(01:06:23):
But I didn't interpret it like that, but I can. I don't
think that he would have like hewould have gone to her extent, but
maybe he could understand why, inthat moment he was having a down moment,
somebody offered him kindness, and Icould see how maybe someone in her
shoes would interpret that as because itfelt really good to me in that moment.

(01:06:45):
But you know what, the reasonwhy I didn't take that approach,
And I can see why you saythat because of all the other ship he
became completely obsessed with her voicemails.He insentially became the stalk like went back
to his abuse, went back toher. I was like he was obsessed
with those messages, like and thelast message the justification of why she called

(01:07:09):
him baby reindeer. Do y'all reallythink he was obsessed or do you think
that it was just comfort, likethat was just a way to be true,
Because remember at the end, wheneverhe I forgot what happened, but
he went and listened to the playlistthat he hadn't listening to, and it
was the loving thing. And Ithink that I think that a few I
think two things, multiple things canbe true at once. I definitely think

(01:07:31):
he became obsessed at a point withlistening to her messages, but I think
that that may have had more soto do with when the him trying to
figure out where she was coming from. That that I think that's when he
became the papers on the wall.It was obsessed and I think that that

(01:07:51):
might be like a trauma response,like I really need and what the fuck
this was about? And how Ibecause it seemed like he really the whole
series. He was kind of tryingto figure out his role in it.
He's looking for answers. Why didI get abused? Why did this happen
to me? Why do I letthis happen? How? Why is she
stalking me? But and what happenedto her? I'm in a vulnerable state

(01:08:15):
too, because I don't know whatI did to deserve this, So maybe
I can get some type of answersfrom it. When I went to church,
I learned from a pastor who sharedher story that how she had gotten
sexually abused as a child and shehelps people now. She's like she has
a doctor or whatever, and shesays that people who get abused, it
tends to happen to them a lotin their life because they they just have

(01:08:40):
this victim or it's women who dealwith abusive men like that, Yeah,
you're constantly beat the ass, rightbecause you're attracted to a certain quality in
them, and those are the qualities. I'll go a little deeper with it.
I feel like men like even ifwe think about, like, there's
a lot of men who I wasthere. Listen, listen, it's it's

(01:09:03):
always, it's always groups of peoplewith mommy issues masquerading as daddy issues.
I say that about one of mybaby mothers. Actually I say about one
of my daughters, Like it's like, it's like, let's blame it on
daddy because it's easier. Right,there's an unhealthy relationship that a mother and
daughter can create, or a marriedson. Yeah, well that's like Oedipus

(01:09:25):
complex. But I'm talking about ithappens more with It happens more with daughter
and mother, because what the motherwill do is pour all of her uh
distain for the father into the daughter, and the daughter will develop a terrible
relationship with her father. And thenwhat and then the daughter will say she
has daddy issues. You really don'thave daddy issues. You got mommy issues

(01:09:46):
because you've adopted your mother's personality andyour daddy was always there attempting to to
be the other part, but mommynever let it happen. I go through
that with one of my kids,and or I read this a long,
long long time ago, where incertain mother daughter relationships there can be an

(01:10:08):
instance where there's some type of competitionright underlying competition, but it stems from
the mother. Yeah, so thatcould come in like trying to live vicariously
through your daughter and are hating yourdaughter for being beautiful, being young.
My body was ruined after her,and then that manifests in relationships and it's

(01:10:30):
nasty, bro, Like I go, like I said, I go through
one of my daughters. We don'ttalk right now because of that ship.
And I finally took the route towhere I'm not. I don't blame myself
for that shit, like I Iblamed myself, Like, Yo, what
the fuck did I go wrong?With? A minute? That's six kids.
I'm cool with all five of them, but this one, and what's
the common denominator? I don't getalong with her mother? And I'm talking

(01:10:50):
about like she lived with me,like I raised her like and her mom
lived over there, you know whatI mean. I ain't gonna get it
to it, but yeah, it'sit's some real ship, bro. Bro.
That series had me reflecting after Iwas youne what I'm saying, like
you become I was so invested onebecause we're both comedians and he was a
comedian he's a comedian. As astand up comic, I'm like, I

(01:11:11):
know what it is to go throughto, first of all, not be
good at comedy. And you're tryingto put these shows together. People are
watching TV screens watching the football gamewhile you're trying to get people to listen.
Your jokes are corny, they're notlanding, and you're feeling like and
this other motherfucker coming here, andhe's like he's offering you. All you
want is mentorship when you when youfirst start comedy, you see all these

(01:11:33):
people doing better than you and you'relike, Yo, if somebody could just
show me the ropes, I knowI could be good at this too.
I don't need money, Just giveme a shot, give me a shot.
It's kind of like you as aperformer, like like you have that
aura on stage and you know whenI should see you perform, And I'm
like, what the fuck is whyis she not famous? Like you know
what I mean? And I askedthose questions about certain comedians like shout the

(01:11:57):
Ross pageant. It bothers me.It's like, or he needed what does
he need to get groomed? Where'sthe groomers when you need him? I
think too that what this series showedme is that I don't want it that
bad for one that bad, andit also makes one of us. I

(01:12:21):
was looking at it like, yo, I mean I could see myself getting
groomed. Let's he said that episodetoo. No, bro, I know
what you're saying, but I feellike there's nothing in life that I want
that much that would that I couldsee myself. I will say this maybe

(01:12:42):
in I can say because I definitelydo have daddy issues, and I think
that I did. I don't thinkthat they're No, I definitely don't have
issue My mom wasn't even My momwas very much so she didn't talk shit
about my biological father whatsoever. HerHer thing was at some point she gonna
find out, And at some pointI found out, and I was okay

(01:13:04):
with that. But I think thatif, if ever, if there's anything
that I've ever wanted so bad,it might it may be it may have
been, it may still be likea like us. What's the word I'm
looking for when you're stability and likea family in the sense that mom,

(01:13:28):
dad, children, right, andso with wanting that bad enough, there
are absolutely times and relationships that I'veendured more than I should. But there's
but there's nothing in like success thatI want so bad that I could willing
to compromise your I'm about to takethese drugs and let you fuck me in
my mood hole. You know I'vebeen I've been in positions where I could

(01:13:51):
have compromised my integrity and I don'tknow, gay shit, It just like
fancy, Like you know, Igo, I go viral a lot,
you know, And there's always beentimes where people are like, oh,
yo, capitalize on that, likeyo, you did that. It's like
you'll if you've ever been in aposition to where you're like on the brink,

(01:14:13):
right, It's kind of like thesame reason why I've never done a
drug in my life. I've neversmoked weed. I've never done I need
to be in control of every decisionI make at all times, So even
if something as light as weed,it's scarce the shit out of me.
When I spoke we once and Ididn't like the way it made me feel.
You'll never catch me drunk like webeyind about you ever see me drinking

(01:14:36):
a lot? Like? Nah,I don't. I always need to be
in constant control, right so thatI apply those same principles to the decisions
I make with my career. Right. So, there's been times where I
get these calls, like from peoplewho are huge in the industry, and
I'll ignore it. It's like,oh shit, like he wanted to take
me to a different direction. Andit's it's traumatic and that comes from sh

(01:15:00):
you go through as a kid.It's like, oh, should I remember
this person made me this promise.And it's even with parenting. Right,
I'm so afraid to go on theroad, bro, Like I'm one of
the comedians. At any given moment, I could blow the fuck up.
It's all on me, bro,It's all on me, Like I can
really blow up and be out thereif I wanted to. It ain't because

(01:15:21):
I'm not funny. It ain't becauseI don't have the resources. I get
booked. I don't get booked becauseI don't want to get booked. I
turned down shoulder on a consistent basis. But the trauma I experienced from my
other children, my baby mother's takingmy kids away from me for years now.
I don't want to. I don'tleave my kids. That's why I
open up my studio here. That'swhy I do kind of like local shows.

(01:15:43):
I'll probably do a one off inVegas or one off in California,
but I'll never stay away too longbecause I'm so fucked up. It sounds
to me like what you said,it's traumatic. It's control, like you
want to be able to be incharge of all well, well, well,
but it's as a result of whathappened of trauma. So it's like,
now you become what was done toyou in a sense. Yeah,

(01:16:08):
And I think that's that's crazy though. I think that's a great point because
I think that trauma manifests in somany different ways. Like I feel like
when people generally think about trauma,they think that they got to be some
ship that buddy went through. Theycan be like because even for me,
like of course, everybody's always likeray you, I've never wanted to be.

(01:16:28):
I used to always say, becausethe like in two thousand and six,
two thousand and seven, I wasreal big on YouTube, say I
was real big. I was like, no, that was before you cant
you could get monetized and all ofthat. I was getting one hundred plus
thousand views on video and everybody.And I remember doing a thank you video
to like my subscribers or whatever.And I was like, literally, if
I could just sing in a jazzclub the rest of my life, I

(01:16:49):
would be fine with that, andnobody could understand that. But my thing
was number one. From the timethat I was a kid, I've always
bounced around literally been to three orfour different elementary three or four different middle
school and so for me, andthen my mom was my mom was a
single mother, so she couldn't alwaysbe at our games, our dance recitals,

(01:17:12):
all of that. So for me, I wanted to be a very
hands on mother. And it seemedlike being in the industry and being a
superstar and singer requires me to begoing a lot, and so I won't
put because I feel like the samething like ther Bag just said, like
at any given moment, my asscould blow up. I remember, Yeah,

(01:17:32):
I even remember when I was inAtlanta, there was there was a
guy I was interested in. WhenI was initially interested in him, I
didn't know what the fuck he did, But turns out he was a music
executive and we started dealing with eachother and he found out I could sing,
and he was like, I wantto manage you. But if I

(01:17:53):
manage you, then this can't bea public thing. And for me,
I was like, I haven't snuckout. I snuck around since my mama
called me sneaking out at fourteen.Nigga, I'm a grown ass woman.
I'm not sneaking around with Ship.So I'll fuck with you and if I
want to pursue music, I'll justgo get somebody else to be my manager.
Like that was I'm like, I'mnot gonna live in Fakeness. I'm

(01:18:15):
not gonna do none of that.Like so I think that those because of
what I've been through and how manytimes I had demounce, and I think
it's a control thing too. Nobodycould really understand happened to me. Nobody
could really understand why I stood stayedin Orlando after I moved here, and
the reason I moved here didn't workout. But I was like, that's
the first time in my life thatas an adult, I was able to

(01:18:39):
make my own decision of where Iwanted to live. And I wasn't about
to give that up. Like Icould have went back to Atlanta through she
Bobs and Ship this silvery they havebeen through so much Ship that he's just

(01:19:00):
so open minded. That's that's thething about me, is control, stability,
open minded this Nigga, I don'tthink it's control, though for me
it is. I know I'm putting. I don't. I don't. I'm
playing sauce on it. I'm puttingsauce. Yeah, I don't think it's
I don't think it's control. It'scontrol of myself in my own direction,
on my life. Because when you'reinforceter care and ship like that, there's

(01:19:23):
no control, like literally, likeI got seven brothers and sisters, but
in the middle of the night theycame and took all seven of us and
moved us into seven different places.Nigga, that ship will fuck with you
up. Now. I have youwanting to find control in every area of
your and then you and then yougrow up and you can't get your dad,
you know, and then your momyou don't know what she had.

(01:19:44):
And then and then you start havingyou get with girls, and then they
start doing what they want to do. Then they take your kids from you,
like somebody's always taking something. Itmakes more sense while you're like,
you're not taking nothing from me nomore now, and now I'm not playing
with nobody no more. It makesso much more sense to me. Why
you have five kids now six sixbecause you have a desire for stability to
and wanting a family because you werealways as a kid. You see what

(01:20:10):
I'm saying, And that's why deepI'm so attached to my children like Nigga,
like respectfully, like Nigga, I'mthe most amazing father ever, Like
I put my kids on that andall my kids live with me, all
of them and all I have sixkids from six different women. Yeah,
that's crazy. You will never knowthat though, because they all with me.
I think that even makes sense aboutthe company that you keep, Like
y'all are such a very like myboys, like you you met my friends.

(01:20:33):
Like we're like family, like wedo everything together, like it's everything
is family. Family, family,family. That's why I was so that's
why we so like like Nigga,we talked to each other on a daily
ba. It's like brotherhood sisterhood.To choose that it just and I think
that's beautiful. I think we're ableto choose. I think that's gay.

(01:20:54):
That was That was a good Thatwas a great healthy session. Was I'm
glad. Before we move on,did anybody find it crazy that he sucked
her. Martha, he didn't reallyhe he did. I didn't think he
really did it. Yes, hedid. I thought he went to the
house and he started making out withher, came off, he put the

(01:21:15):
panties down, he sucked her.They showed him. I thought that.
You thought that was a vision.You thought that was a dolt. He
was. You know what I thought, got pregnant. Yeah, that's what
I thought. She had her periodand water. I was so relieved.
I thought, Yo, you everget a text from the girl you're talking
to it? I got my period. I'm like, oh, he got

(01:21:36):
this fat bitch pregnant. That wouldhave been insane. But what happened then
because he actually because okay, soso after the episode when he was in
the police, he was acting whoaafter the episode when the girl got hit,
right, but the girl got herhair ripped out, and then he

(01:21:57):
couldn't he couldn't think her a girlbecause she's a girl. She's a girl.
He couldn't have sex. He couldn'thave sex with her, he couldn't
get hard. And she's thinking becausehe's not attracted, but really it's because
he hasn't had sex at all sincethe experience with the dude since the dude
raped him. He was, Oh, he went crazy after that. He
went crazy after that. But Ithink he felt discussed. You know,

(01:22:19):
he really had feeling genuine feelings forher, That's what he was saying.
Yeah, and then he went andfucked Martha, and then that's when he
got his She gave it. That'swhy he said she gave him his libido
back, because what I recall isthat he jacked off to Martha and then
I thought that him having sex withher was another vision he felt that was

(01:22:41):
like maybe like a thought that andthen then he got his libido back.
Had me questioned it for a seconduntil I remember when he goes to the
police precinct and he's talking to thepolice. As he's talking as opposed to
what other type of prison. Ashe's talking the detective and the police precinct.

(01:23:02):
You can tell ambulance, you cantell that precint. You can tell
I don't do crimes. I've neverbeen in the police. I never like
a precinct is a building for otherthings. I was I was self conscious
about how I was saying precinct.I thought I thought I was saying it
wrong. Happened at the police precinct. At the police precinct, he was
talking to the detective and he says, she talks to him, and she's

(01:23:26):
like, yo, she handled thesituation well. When I told her about
staying away or whatever, He's like, oh, what else does she say.
He's trying to see if she's gonnatell her that he just fucked all
right? She was cooperative after that. She sucked her, and that's what
calmed her down. She was,yeah, she was. That's what made
That's what made her relax. Shenever brought up the fact that they because
each other and he was nervous thewhole time in the precinct. That happened

(01:23:48):
like because he had he had wentto the cops already, and then he
fucked her, and then she calmeddown. Okay, he fucked Martha Stuck.
It's crazy. And I also knowthat pussy Stink said that during that
scene. Phobic. No, no, nigga. She was outside, but

(01:24:09):
it's it's not even it's not even. No, it's not that house,
y'all looking at the house. Yes, was everywhere. It was nasty outside
for thirty days, thirty nights,like, but she had gotten a little
bit better. She was good inher mental health. I got old.
I will say that whoever played thatrole you got on whites it was good

(01:24:32):
niggas period. Whoever that was,I don't know her name. She kills
that lutha her. I could seeher getting a lot of movie roles.
She don't get a lot of oscars. And he won her. She murdered
that ship. She killed that ship. I was a good idea. She
was so good that there were timesit was scarily. She said that there

(01:24:55):
were times during film and where hedidn't even know what to say because he
was like, she killed it.She did it amazing when she would have
the freakouts and she started screaming athim in places, Nigga, I was
getting scared, like yo, whenshe broke the glass on the old boy,
it really was pissed me because Iwas like, why don't you go?
Like every time he went to thepolice station, I was just like

(01:25:19):
tell them, like how you gonnatell them you got a stalker? And
then you show them as all youme two bitches, All you me two
bitches? Who coming out the worldworks? Do what he did that was
brave? What did he do?He made a fucking movie about it,
and I will I feel like thatyou made a fucking movie about it all

(01:25:42):
the make a movie about it andstarring it, then we'll fucking believe you.
Dog, I believe that, Nigga, you're so dismissive of people's no,
no, no. What I'm sayingis no, we talked about this
with the last episode. What I'msaying is there's a percentage of them and
we all can agree on this.Can you agree that some of these bitches
are fucking line? Some of themare right? So if you want us
to believe you, do what hedid, that nigga out of the ultimate

(01:26:03):
me Too boos of this series alsoput into perspective what goes on in the
industry that but also the question fora lot of ship that has come out
why they don't say nothing? Why? And that made me Yeah, because
especially as a man, that gotto be hard as a son and Nigga
bro like it was crazy, likehe went to a shower and then that

(01:26:24):
water hit his ass. I'm like, oh, look at you. That
was sad, bro, Look athow I relate to another dude. But
if it was a woman in asituation, you have less empathy. That's
hot, bro. I do feellike women get that a lot, especially
because it is more believable from awoman. But sometimes we take we take

(01:26:45):
a very long time. But here'sthe thing. I think sometimes we don't
realize because from personal experience, Ididn't even like, for instance, if
you're a woman and you're in arelationship and you tell you and you've been
having sex with your partner, andthere's a moment where you're like, no,
like y'all get in an argument,nigga, try to overpower you on
some ship. You don't even knowhow you're supposed to present that to anybody?

(01:27:08):
How am I supposed to go tothe police, my friends or anyone
and say that my boyfriend racy?And then it takes you a very long
time your life. Yes you can, you can and see that's the thing
is. But the reason that peoplewon't come out with it is because you

(01:27:30):
don't even know if that's it's goingto make me look crazy? Why you
don't know what? I'm gonna givean example of bullshit that happens in the
industy, right, Sukiyana, mmhmm? What about it? Do you
remember they try to throw what's thatwild why kl cyrus? Okay, yeah
you remember that incident? No Iwas. It made me fucking live it

(01:27:50):
bro, like all over her.So he tried to kill yes, yes,
yes at an event at a panel, So yeah, I heard they
played the showed him trying to kissher. We already know how she give
it up in public right contentially tothe niggas. You wanted to let me
finish, let me finish, nigga, We're not gonna do this. You're

(01:28:12):
not gonna do this. You're nota creepy as nigga. This is what
she said, touse, I wasnasty, bro. Look what she said
to him before that, the privateor that he didn't show. She's like,
yeah, little nigga, you don'tknow, you don't know you.
I'll get your little ass. Youdon't know what to do with a girl
like me, Come on, son, And then that's not an invitation,
so answer. That's like me sittinghere right now being cannot like me talking

(01:28:38):
to you. And then randomly niggadidn't grab her. The nigga didn't grab
the nigga didn't grab her in afucking alley nowhere. He did that ship
with thousands of people around and theytried to make this little kid out to
be some perverb. Bro, twothings can be true. Come on,
son, not her, Bro,you're looking at her, she's a whole.

(01:28:58):
Yeah, that's like saying that deserveto get No, I'm not.
I'm not saying no. No,you said. What you're doing is y'all
leaving out the context. He didn'tjust walk up on her. We we
us us as black people. That'show it goes. First of all,
he's a little kid. He don'tknow no better. These other older niggas,

(01:29:19):
she's he's younger than her. Itdon't no better. And I don't
like that narrative that just because somebodyis a certain it's a nuanced situation.
I could say whether or not hedid or didn't think I think I think
he did. I think what hedid was intentionally, But I don't think

(01:29:42):
it was enough to demonize that kidfor that. That was fucked up how
they did him. I don't thinkthat it ruined his career by anymore.
He's cuss already trash. Yeah,but it's a teachable moment. It's a
teachable moment. You cannot do thingsto women like that. Yo, you
brought up A good example if youlisten for the sake of the podcast of
Ray is saying like some SEXU thisexplicit stuff to us, and then after
the podcast is over, the camerasgo off and I get on top of

(01:30:03):
you, like, no, yo, he was on the podcast. You
you're wilding for that. It's asimilar situation. It's not. It's not
a similar situation because because there's context. It's context. We don't know the
nature of their relationships. I say, cav if keV is like, I'm
okay, I'm a pagan, Andthen I'm like, I'm a pagan ass
bitch. Yeah. After the podcast, I say, cav betting the fuck

(01:30:25):
over. Yeah if you say you'rea pagan ass bitch on the podcast for
the sake of content, And thenI get off the podcast and I'm like,
yo, so what's up when wefucking yo? And I'm all over
you and ship okay without your canknow what you do? Know what she
If you put a certain type ofenergy in the air, right, if
you put a certain type of energyin the air, and a nigga bite
on the energy you're giving you nah, nah, it ain't like that.

(01:30:46):
But you don't get to fucking goand run him, demonize him after you
put that energy in the air directlyto him. I don't think you said
that. You said you don't thinkthat she demonized him though it was the
public? Was it not the public? It was I don't recall that what
happened to Will Mills, the universesay shut him the fuck up. So

(01:31:15):
you're a pegging as bench. I'mnot imagine pegs and bacon. I'd really
been wondering, like if I wasa guy, I wonder how that would
be, what getting pegged? No, no, no, I just wonder
what type of nigga would be.We are back, y'all. My bad.

(01:31:39):
We had some technical difficulties. Mymic cord apparently went out. I
guess I was spending so much hotfire to this mic. I'm back and
better than ever the mic cord.I got a new mic cord in here,
and that's good. When you ownyour own ship, you got your
own studio and all that. Yougot a little extra ship hanging around here,
so you broke ass podcasts. Understand, you gotta have extra mics,

(01:32:00):
extra cord in case ship like thathappened, Extra memory cards kicks the camera
stop running. You gotta have allthis extra extra thrones. It ain't sheep.
So get your money up, youbroke ass podcasters. Anyways, Uh
my new my new, my newco host here. Uh ray. She

(01:32:20):
sent me this earlier today and Iwas like, oh yeah, I like
this. Let's talk about it nextweek. We're gonna do some funny ships.
We were going goofy ship, butwe are teaching motherfuckers. Like we
get into some ship, I cansee, Oh no, we give it
to and it's from three different angles, like you know what I mean.

(01:32:41):
I can see it's gonna be alot of y'all ganging up on me.
Though I see that already. That'scool. I think it's so sensitive.
So this uh girl, I'm likea lot of she looked like she.
She looks a lot like my daughter'swife, a lot like her. I'm
gonna say who else she looks like. But that girl listens to everything,

(01:33:03):
and she's sensitive and I don't wantthose smokes. We'll let to figure it
out for uself because the video gonnabe playing on the screen. She had
an interesting points on some things here, So we'll play the video you know
when we feel like we could.When I when I when I when I
hear the cap, I'm pausing it. We're gonna give some commentary on it,
all right, So let's listen towhat she gotta say. You know,

(01:33:24):
I don't know what homophobic ass youher voice two seconds yo, she
sounds like me, yo. Idon't know, yo, I don't know
what your homie that deep her shipdeepest. Fuck. I didn't realize that
before. Let's go. You know, I don't know what homophobic ass black

(01:33:44):
person needs to hear this. Buthomosexuality is not the agenda that's here to
destroy the Black community. Agree.I don't even think homosexuality is remotely a
problem in the black community. Ifanything, it has moved us forward several
times. But that's cap. Itdidn't move anything forward. Acceptance of homosexuality

(01:34:06):
move us forward. But that's notjust the black community, it's everybody.
How does it move us forward ormove us back or keep us complacent?
I think claiming homophobia is a problemin ignoring other shit, that's a problem,
okay, But I want to lether land on. What she said
is the problem, okay, Andit fucking bothered me. I don't understand

(01:34:31):
your own history and refuse to learnit. So here we are. I
don't think gayness, homosexuality, orany member of the LGBTQ community has ever
been a problem as to what wetalk about is the grander scale of why
Black people can't move forward and unite. It's not gay people's fault. You
know what is a problem in theblack community, toxic masculinity amongst black men

(01:34:54):
that make why would you stop itthere? Just let her say what talk?
That really bothers me? It reallybecause I don't even agree with the
term. All right, yeah,let's just okay, because I'm gonna I'm
gonna shut her right. That doesn'texist. It's oxymoronic, and we're gonna

(01:35:19):
get into it. It's not gaypeople's fault. You know what is a
problem in the black community, Toxicmasculinity amongst black men that make them insatiably
violent toward Black women. That mightbe a problem. That's the part I
didn't like. That's the part Ididn't like, because that's bullshit, bro,
Like like to say this is anissue in the black community, black

(01:35:42):
men being violent towards Black women,anything to avoid accountability on any level.
Bro. And I would never thinkthat a lesbian woman would say that,
like first and foremost, let's beclear, lesbian women are way more violent
to their partners than black men are. Period masculinity, you adopting qualities that

(01:36:08):
they see in what men. Toxicmasculinity is. Her masculinity in itself cannot
be toxic, toxic masculinity, toxicmasculinity because she has pseudomasculinity. She's a
woman who's trying to be a man, so she can't be masculine. She's

(01:36:29):
just a woman who's trying to portraywhat a man is right now. And
I don't And that's not a knockat her sexuality, but to call like
masculinity in itself is a powerful thing, Like you can be misogynistic, you
can be a male chauveness, youcan be abusive, you can be degrading,

(01:36:51):
you could be a bunch of things, but you can't be masculine and
toxic of the word. I thinkthe masculinity is just the the display of
what it is to be a man. And I think that any any description
can be corrupt. You can youcan corrupt what it is to be a

(01:37:13):
man. And I think that that'swhat toxic masculinity is. If you're abusing
power, if you're if you're usingyour your size, your force, your
uh, the lxies that we have, the privileges that we have as men,
those are toxic traits to me inmy opinion. If she would have
said men being violent towards other blackmen, one hundred percent, I agree

(01:37:34):
with that men being a lazy andnot taking care of their children. That's
a dated argument, but I evenagree with that. But to put men
beating on black women at the topof the list is crazy to me.
Son, I think you lack empathyfor women. Bron. First of all,
I don't agree with that because andI hate to I hate to give

(01:37:55):
qualifying statements. I was raised byall women. I have five sisters and
four daughters. It's impossible for meto be to lack empathy of women.
But what I do is what Idon't do is I don't tippy toe when
it's when it's a woman, becauseit's a woman. I don't tippy told
like you said some bullshit, SoI'm gonna check you on it, just

(01:38:15):
the same way I would check aman because what you saying. And I
know a pay she got a lotover three hundred thousand followers, like that's
that's dangerous to talk like that.It's spreading a false agenda, one that's
not true. I do agree withwhat you're because I think that to say
that, I think that it's thelumping that right, because I personally like

(01:38:39):
don't lead with that. I personallywouldn't be able to agree with her.
Is what exactly what she said becausein my orbit, I don't know men
who put their hands on women.I don't know black men who put their
hands on women, right right,So in my orbit, that doesn't exist.
Do you know me? Neither,But we all live in a bunch

(01:38:59):
of different Worldlds and algorithms show youa different perspective, her perspective, but
also she doesn't date men, soshe probably dealt with a bunch of bunch.
We're gonna always have problems with generalizationson the Internet rights. But in
order to have the following that shehas, or the order, in order
to be triggering or captivating to anaudience, you have to niche down and

(01:39:26):
her stands. Her fight is forthe abuse of women, and there's a
whole category of marginalized women that arebeing abused. To say that that doesn't
exist, it's to be naive butto say that's a problem in the black
community, and to lead with that, say hey, this is the problem
the black community. Bro. Thatis not even in the top thirty bro

(01:39:46):
at all. It's not bro togeneralize that and not include women who are
right because because let me tell yousomething, I know way more black lesbians
that beat the shit out of theirgirlfriends than Black men who touch their women.
I think what she's saying is homophobiais not the thing that we need
to focus on. It's really not. But yo, I would rather somebody

(01:40:09):
be gay in my family than findout that somebody is beating on a woman.
But she's also not just talking aboutphysical if you she hasn't said.
But also, let's let's be realhere, right and we're speaking as black
people right now. All of ushave grown up around or had some gay
people around us and now growing upin the black community. Have any of
you ever witnessed black people being homophobic? Yes, you have, that's the

(01:40:32):
number one thing. No, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, I'm talking aboutI'm not I'm not talking about I'm
talking about if it's men talking amongstmen, that's not homophobic, bro.
No, no, no, I'mtalking about treating gay people different in the
president right. Never, Bro,that's not a black thing, because there's
a lot of videos who say thatthat's really listen, that's exclusive even support

(01:40:58):
bro, Bro black women's specific.I'm from the hood, Brooklyn, New
York, Nigga. It was plentyof gay dudes I grew up with.
They was the homies, Like,nobody ever treated them different. We knew
they was gay, nobody treated themfunny. That ship has always been a
white thing, bro. A loteven even a lot of people coach switched
though, even and even the gayship around black people, because that's one

(01:41:18):
Black people be like, yo,don't do that. But we know what's
up. We know what's up though. But but but the bully bullying,
that's also a white thing. Bullyingis that's not a black thing. Bro.
I will say that that's just inthe culture because even if I do
hate the fact that in conversations whenit comes to Black people trying to check
other black people or conversations about ourissues, some people make it seem like

(01:41:44):
that's not an issue and other Right, even going back to the feminist movement,
that's not that was never that was. That's a white woman we wouldn't
being we didn't have rice period ifwe were being treated. And I even
see that even the violence that wehave towards one another male are female in
our community is a product of whereYou don't like to say that that they

(01:42:11):
can come from slavery. Oh no, no, no, I agree,
some things do come from slavery.I think Tarajip saying that we run around
is brought us to be specific ways, so to act like it's just a
problem that we fucking created and nowit's a problem, but it's not a
problem that we even fucking created.All right, let's get it. Let's

(01:42:35):
get into this right, let's getinto this. Toxic masculinity is also this
right now. Men are supposed tobe the leaders of the house, the
providers of the house. So Ithink bitch ass niggas per se who simps,

(01:42:59):
who don't take charge and I don'tmean control, but lead women right
and not prey on their on theirThey prey on the pain of women,
like niggas like that ace metaphor nigga. You pray on the pain of women,
Bro, Derek Jackson, you pray, you pray on the pain of
women. Right, you feed themall you freedom. You feed them pipe

(01:43:20):
dreams about this imaginary man that don'texist nowhere, because we're all flawed in
some kind of way, right.You you feed them, you tell them,
you give them delusions of how aman is supposed to be. That's
toxic as fuck, bro, becauseyou're saying, hey, men are supposed
to think like me, I'm theright man. Now, you got thousands

(01:43:41):
and millions of women that follow theseniggas and really think that's the way it's
supposed to be. And that's nothow no man is, bro. That's
cap We're all individuals. We operateon a different basis. You give women
this impression that they're supposed to comein ready made, don't got to make
no fucking adjustments, and the manonly got to make the adjustments. She's
always present. Trophy is if likewe don't, we can't be to come

(01:44:02):
up right. I do think thatthat's toxic that I thought to simply say
that a man should be a certainway and a woman should be a certain
way and expect everyone to live tothat standard. It's toxic. I also
think that the generalization because toxic masculinityalso became popular in my opinion and even

(01:44:24):
when what y'all were talking about lastepisode, like not pandering to women,
but what did you say coddling?Right, So it's like a man simply
stating you shouldn't do that shit.A woman is toxic masculinity when it's like,
wouldn't you expect your brother to tellyou if you were doing right or

(01:44:45):
wrong? Wu didn't you expect anyonein your life to be able to check
you or be honest with you aboutyour shortcomings or when you're fucking up?
Why? Why is it in amoment that you just don't agree with that?
That's time And here's the thing withher, right, in order to
give out information, you kind ofneed to deal with the people you're talking

(01:45:08):
about. You're lesbian, you don'tfuck with guys. So where do you
what do you know? Now?Where are you getting your information from?
I feel contradictory. No, it'snot contradictory, because all right, So
in order for you to make it, what are you reading newspapers? Where
you getting your stats from? Youdon't think she could ever have dealt with
niggas before. Typically you see thatand we can't talk about what it was.
Typically women who deal that to dealwith men in a romantic fashion for

(01:45:30):
her to still all right, well, I know, I know, I
know this for a fact. Howmany women have you met that got kids
and ship that ain't really gay?They just got ran through by a lot
of niggas. And now all ofa sudden she want to eat some pussy.
You ain't gage sure that, youjust don't you. You just don't
have it in you, and youwant to write off men and say men
ain't shit. No, you know, men ain't gonna fuck with you and

(01:45:53):
take you serious no more. Soyou go get yourself a woman. I
know a lot of women out herewho got kids and been taken all they
life. Now all of a sudden, she's a lesbian. Get the fuck
out of here. Bro. Thelesbian she deal with, she deal with
chicks like that, and that's whatshe's getting her information from. Lesbians is
like the niggas who play basketball andthey can't play. Said, you can't

(01:46:15):
be some chick who got four orfive kids and you in your late thirties,
early forties, and now all I'ma lesbian. No, you not,
shorty, You just don't want tohave any accountability. And he's lesbian.
Women who really love women and reallywant to be with a woman.
They're telling you better things than aman ever told you before. So now
now, and they're they're playing thevictim with you. Now the fuck out

(01:46:36):
of here, sogerous. That's superdangerous, and that's what makes these shicks
like her abusive. They can't likea woman. Speaking to a woman is
a lot different than a man's.Yeh yeah, man, And then if
you know that and you are awareof that, then you can manipulate and
groom just like they groomed too.Listen, then fuck that. Let's tell

(01:46:57):
my business that happened to me.Listen, my ex wife left me for
a woman. Let me tell yousomething that I was in my early early
twenties, me too early twenties.We had a we had a kid together.
We had a kid together. Wewas having problems. Of course,

(01:47:18):
I didn't have no money. I'mfucking twenty one years old, bro,
I had no money. Surety wasforty, so she's start. She was
a boss at work, Power Dynamic. She's in her she's her boss.
We had one car. Also,Okay, well I'll bring her back home
for you take the car because I'mlike, nah, fuck them, you

(01:47:38):
can take the car. I'll takethe bus. She's like, no,
no, no, don't worry aboutit. She's good. We live in
the same neighborhood. Slowly but surely, expensive clothes start coming in the house,
perfumes. Next thing she saw actingfunny with me? What the fuck
are you acting funny with me for? Like, I know this, this
she ain't turning you out. Nextthing I know. I come home from

(01:47:59):
work one day, my short theyain't come on for four days. What
snatched it up? Bro? Temptation? But then all of a sudden she's
like, no, I need toprotect her from you. You ain't shit.
But then what happened a couple ofmonths later that bached all going upside
of had Yep, that's what shedid. And that's what I've experienced with
this shit. Bro. You talkall of the shit about men, Like,

(01:48:20):
where are you getting your information from? Can we watch a little bit
more this? Yeah, please,let's just finish it. You just punched
your bi your sixth baby mama inthe motherfucking not gay people's fault. You
know what is a problem in theblack community, Toxic masculinity amongst black men
that make them insatiably violent toward blackwomen, that might be a problem.

(01:48:42):
You just punched your whole bio,your sixth baby mama in the motherfucking face.
But you worried about that gay man. It's probably because you want to
fuck him, because he looked goodand addressing. You confused about it.
But let's go on and talk aboutsomething else, because I know y'all not
worried about gay people, sir.Why are you worried about studs taking your
women? You don't even like grownwomen. You like little as girls.
You and you wear ass homeboys postedup outside of a high school picking out

(01:49:02):
freshman that you want. You're thirtyfive with a fifteen year old ass girlfriend.
Do you hear you know that veryspecific? Yeah, you don't think
that exists anymore. Yeah, butshe's saying this is not talking to us,
No, she's no, Yes sheis, because she said, this
is a problem the black community.This is a very small group of prison.
It's not a mar lift. There'sa lot of different people in the

(01:49:23):
black community. There's uh, shesaid, this is a problem in the
black community. Yeah, but yourblack community is not like my black community,
which is not like her black community. What is this talk about?
I think that her whole point thatshit sound personal. I think that her
whole point is there's bigger fucking fishto fry in the black community in general.

(01:49:45):
And I think that it being thatpeople we are in the black community,
we ain't in the white community.Yeah, but I don't know any
black people that put that say,gay's all fucking things up with the black
community that we don't, But shemight, right. That's like me saying
I don't know no clan members,but so what the kukuk? But this
is also why I stayed to fuckoff for TikTok, because you go down

(01:50:06):
this rabbit hole of bullshit like this. This is bullshit, This is not
even scratching the surface. Nobody saysthis is her true. But but the
thing about it is, nobody saysthat black people have a problem with the
gay Now niggas say, yeah,it is a gay agenda because you're speaking
from a place of privilege. Bro, what the fuck are you talking about,

(01:50:30):
you gotta. I'm not saying thatyou're privileged. I'm saying you're speaking
from a place of privilege because you'renot necessarily in that community, so you're
not hearing all of the bullshit agendasthat she's hearing constantly. It's like,
if you are talking about Drake onlineand everybody's coming at you about this Drake
shit, you're gonna believe that allof these Drake fans are away. Other

(01:50:51):
niggas are like, Yo, Idon't even see no fun. That's what
the census is though, Bro.I know, but I'm saying, Look,
you're living in a world that isyou're only seeing certain data. If
you're getting specific data, then youthink that this is how the whole world
operates. Right. But the datashe's viewing, I've never heard it in
my life. Right. But she'sgonna she's gonna get different information because she's

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of a different because she's speaking toabused women who used to fuck with men.
And what I'm saying is fuck thembitches, bro. Yeah, but
we're talking about she's gonna get awhole gay agenda. But she's not talking
about gays. She's talking about straights. Yeah, well, your originally she's
not saying what gay people go through. She's talking about straight men, bro.
But what you're saying is, Yo, her point is not even valid

(01:51:34):
because Yo, what gay people areeven saying gays are the problem. That's
probably what she's hearing every way,all the great people is saying gays are
the problem. What straight men aresaying that like, think about it,
she might come, her community mightbecause the thing is, I think that
it seems it can possibly seem likeblack people are so against gayness because a

(01:51:58):
large amount of black people are Christian, and so that goes against their religious
bosa. So there are a lotof black people who are Christians who are
a thousand percent against gays. Butthen there are a lot of black people
who are also. Maybe I'm not. I don't know. I guess it
just depends. It's gonna be differentif you go up in Atlanta versus if
you grow up in Cali versus ifyou grow up in Vermont. Fucking I'm

(01:52:19):
around yo. As an open mindedheterosexual man, I say, I play
around with the gay shit all thetime. I'm not gay. But I
see the reaction as a comedian thatblack people face whenever you start talking about
gay shit. Black people will clinchup, black people will get mad,
black people get turned off. Iagree with that black people are like,
Yo, don't bring that gay shitaround me. It's so caught in I

(01:52:42):
think this goes back to the slaveryshit, because they have masculated us so
much in slavery, so much ofmale identity and their their masculinity is like,
yo, I cannot be perceived assoft, sweet, feminine, none
of that. So if you doany of that gay shit around me,
you are speaking that comes from abuck breaking thing. Yeah, buck breaking,
you know, buck working. Yeah. And I learned about a lot

(01:53:04):
in Jamaican culture that they did,right, they buck Burke. So so
the Jamaicans aren't all right, letme give you, let me give you
a different for me. Right.I'm a person who doesn't. I don't
speak opinions, right, I liketo speak facts. So when I speak
on Drake fans, right, it'sbecause twenty thousand of them said the same
thing. Right. So when youtake a sensus of something, when you

(01:53:27):
take it, when you say,oh, the general consensus is this.
So I'm presenting you with facts.So if I say, even if you
say, oh, a survey,right, they didn't ask the entire population
of your America. They asked maybea thousand people, And because a thousand
people had the same opinions, itbecomes a fact. So when I say
Drake fans are all bitches. It'sbecause twenty thousand of them said the same

(01:53:50):
thing based off of what your originalpost is, right, they all reacted
the same. So it's like,okay, so Dad, I think it's
like the algorithm. But what I'msaying is okay. What I'm saying is
to her, I don't think allright. I'm not in her world,
right, I don't know anything abouther world and what she's experienced. But

(01:54:11):
what I can say confidently as asocial media influencer, I know they're not
a bunch of fucking straight men onher posts blaming she don't but you know
why, because they don't follow her. You're attacking, You're not defending.
See when I do my thing,I'm defending something right because people are attacking

(01:54:33):
me. She's on attack. She'son the offensive, offending straight men,
right. And I can confidently saythat I can go look on her page
right now and there's not going tobe too many straight men who follow her.
She's gathering the troops of people whoagree with her, and that's what
that is weaponizing. She's weaponizing her, her her prior. What's the word

(01:54:58):
I'm looking for, marginals Because I'mnot saying to say, gays aren't as
marginalized anymore. But what does happenand has happened. It happened with gays,
It happened with black women, blackmen, fat people, people who
are formally marginalized. Now social mediahave created a platform, in a safe
space for them to become the fuckingbullies. And that's what happens a lot,

(01:55:21):
because before it was Hey, I'mfeminine, I'm a woman, I
want to vote, I want rights. Now is men ain't shit right?
It's not. It's no longer.Hey we need our rights. You got
your right, shorty. Black womenare making more money than everybody. They
the most. You guys are themost educated in the in the world.
Like, come on, so don'tcome at me with what do you now.

(01:55:44):
It's let's let's create a narrative don'texist. Now we got lesbian women
who beat their fucking women up talkingabout black straight men are beating up their
women. Come on, son,you're becoming a bully now. But now
you're generalizing. You're saying that alllesbian women are I'm not saying that,
but I what I'm saying is becauseI said I take my, my,
my, my. Uh. Generalconsensus and turn into facts. I don't

(01:56:11):
know. All the black men Ihang around are amazing fathers that I see,
because the one thing about black heterosexualmen, aside from rappers and niggas
who do drugs and shit, thetypical black private people not just private.
We depict ourselves in a positive lightbecause we know what the world already think
of us. Just my base offseeing us everywhere I go. You know

(01:56:32):
what I'm saying, like, likeyou want to see yourself in the private
lights, and so you're not gonnabe like like like niggas beat their bitches
in privates. This tak motherfucker?Why did I get married? You might
get some verbal of black Why dofools fall? Well? Punching your girl
in the face? Hut movie?Uh, What's love? Got to traumatized

(01:56:57):
me as a yo. Men beatingBlack men beat and the women. It's
so like it sounds so old school, like I don't even hear it anymore.
So it's to say that that's willprobably beat your ass before you could
beat her. I had, butthe ship out that bitch. No,
I'm saying, but black, Ifeel like these days, right, black
women don't play that ship. Yeah, I have definitely put the black women

(01:57:21):
are getting beat no more. No, no, I'm not sing this year
we trolling, but but bro sayingI truly thinks still exists in all and
it's never been widely displayed or publicizes, always behind some closed doors type ship.
But I think that this conversation probablyjust go like hearing this probably also

(01:57:45):
falls in line with like the blackon black crime and we know that that's
that's bullshit. I don't never Inever believe on. I don't say black
on black, I say poor onpoor, gang on gang, lost on
loss. I don't say crime existsnext to the areas that people are.
Niggas ain't running over to the whitecommunity. Nigga, you live next door.
You pissed me off that you justdon't like the messenger. I think

(01:58:05):
if she if somebody said that,no, I would call bullshit on anybody
who said that, because I reallydon't think of us are really bothered.
I don't think that there's an abundanceof to say that, and what you
must be talking about a specific areain America that you live in. But

(01:58:27):
to say that's a problem in theblack community. Top of the list toxic
masculinity, look up statistics how manyblack women are abused or battered. I'm
sure there's I know there's a fuckingalarming it's not an alarming amount to say
that, oh, this is theproblem of the black community. Black women
are not sitting at home. Blackwomen are running ship right now. I

(01:58:49):
think running ship. I think anoverwhelming amount. I think is no different
than I just lost the niggas lovehate until it's time for them to stay.
I think there's more black women runningthe general generalist, I think there's
more black women. Client calls myoffice and it's like, y'all fucked up.

(01:59:12):
I'm like, bitch, First ofall, you didn't even follow my
mother. Oh yeah I did.I ain't never spoke to people for who
is y'all black saying black men isout here beating their woman women and that's
a huge problem in the black community. Chris, I think that's like Turner
James Brown, and that her thingis. I think the problem that you

(01:59:35):
may be like when you're having conversationsabout certain things that you know could probably
be clickbait or could be twisted,you want to do an explanation. She's
just generalizing everything and she probably doesn'teven mean it in the exact way that
to articulate them. Because she's dealingwith a pet. Who all is thinking

(01:59:55):
there's not her people? Yeah,you know what it is people. There
are people, you know what it'sbe There are people like us who may
speak to an understanding. I wantyou to understand that this is exactly what
I mean. Listen, you knowthere's people on social media, and this
is the problem with social media.Right. I'm not saying everybody shouldn't be
allowed a platform, but everybody shouldn'tbe allowed platform. I agree. What
happens is some people get a platformand they just say whatever they're feeling at

(02:00:16):
the moment, and that shit windup taking off like fucking wildfire. You're
like, oh shit, I fuckedup, Like I didn't even mean for
that to go out. Why doI keep this going? One or two
things happen. You clear, youclean it up with a follow up video,
or you're like, oh shit,I went viral. Let me let
me become this person now. Ithink that's how all the simple thingers was
born. That's how they said somepandorin shit like your men the other day,

(02:00:39):
you want a wife give up fiftythousand dollars. You see that shit,
what's crazy? Nigga niggas know what'sgonna get the people reacting and looking
and triggered. But listen, Idon't want these cameras to stop. This
audio stop. Let's say a littlebit more of this. And then I
said, wein't gonna go two hours. We over two hours now that shit
is crazy, but amazing showed onnevertheless, Right, but listen, that's
why happen when you pot in it'sparty. This is what goes on that

(02:01:04):
might be a problem in the blackcommunity, a problem in the black community.
Ain't y'all doing drive by sucker punchesin New York? Why the fuck
is you worried about gay people aproblem in the black community. You you
got a rapist homeboy that you ain'tturned in. It's is fifth time doing
it. You ain't said ship,But it's gay people. That's very interesting.

(02:01:29):
Homophobic black women. Don't y'all gono where either. Y'all talking bisexual
men. It's a lot of y'allout there making that little clout chasing ass
content. You worried about bisexual men, but you're raising your three year old
son to be your husband. Imight be a problem. He ain't gonna
be no heartbreaker. That's your son, not your boyfriend. Stop treating him
like that. Y'all got insstuous relationshipwith y'all sons. But it's gay people's

(02:01:53):
problem. Interesting, you got motherwounds so deep that they all mo motherfucking
genetic they part of your goddamn DNA. You've beating your daughter into puberty early.
Yeah, Okay, I think apology. Okay, I see what she's
doing now. Hm, she's talkingabout multiple she's going to multiple things,

(02:02:15):
she's going through all the problems inthe black community. Yeah, that's what
I'm saying, that's the problem.She said. But Will has a bias
bro anytime that he's any time thathe hears black being attacked. But then,
no, no, no, nono, let me let me let
me tell you something. Let metell you something real quick. Let me
tell you something. There's an abundanceof black women, black men. White

(02:02:39):
people are always attacking straight black men. Yes, and I and I attack
on heterosexual black men al way.It's an attack on head of a sexual
black men on a consistent basis.And it's triggering to me because like,
no, you're not doing that becausewe are some good motherfucking men. So
when you lead with that ship,it's like, come on, that shouldn't
be the first thing you say.Do y'all notice the uptick in a lot

(02:03:02):
of black men now placing a lotof blame on black women too. Yeah,
as we should. It's a calland response to It is a response,
it's a responsible It's exactly what Will'sdoing. The nigga gets the nigga
got defensive, like, yo,woman, Yeah no, as soon as
it's about a woman, he's readyto apology. Yeah, let's finish.
No no no no no no nono no no no no no no no.

(02:03:24):
It's like that too, that too. But I didn't go in defensive,
and I was like, I heardwhat she's saying. She's not saying
this is the problem. She's sayingthis is a problem. What she's really
saying is Yo, stop focusing onhomosexuality, because there's bigger issues that we
could work on as a community,and I'm about to break them down.
I never heard just one thing fromher. I didn't either. You ever,

(02:03:45):
she left with though, right,yeah, yeah, But the last
thing is the most important thing,you say, not the first. The
last thing is the thing you're gonnaremember if you want me to receive the
message properly, learn how articulated.Because you leave with the ship that's going
to turn people off, or becauseshe's said some real shame, then maybe
learned to sit through the discomfort.It's the low hanging fruit. She has

(02:04:08):
a job to do as a asa content creator. The thing's gonna make
people sit and watch the video.This is gonna get attention to most.
You should have just did the medio, right. I would have clicked this
motherfucking video, but just like becausesomebody would have clicked the clip from last
week's episode off, but it broughtsome attention. Let me see the finger.
I gotta see what the finger lookedlike. So she did the same

(02:04:29):
thing. Stop all right, Well, this is a learning lesson for me
to listen and shut the fuck upsometimes accountability. It's also a learning lesson
for black people in general. Stopattacking black men first. That's why I
lead with the women first. Icould never date a nigga like him.
Pause, because because every time heapologized or take accountability, he's then he's

(02:04:51):
then placed the accountability back on you. Right, I'm sorry, but this
is why I acted the way right. I will say that that is valid,
though, but I think that basedon how people want apologies is different
because because I'm a person and I'ma Scorpio. I'm not even a Capricorn,
but I'm a person that you belike, hey, you made me

(02:05:14):
feel some type of way, andin my mind, you're just taking it
away that you shouldn't take it,and so I feel the need to explain
it's why. I it's just theway that I did, but my bad
because I could have did that right. And you know what it is,
it's it's it's I'm huge on communication. I need you to understand where I'm
coming from. I'm not going tostop until you get my point, and
then we could either agree to disagree, but we're not gonna leave this conversation

(02:05:38):
with But you're meaning something, butyou thinking I meant something different. My
attentions aren't malicious, my words aren'thurt, because if it is to hurt,
we wouldn't be here. I wantto I'm like a real fucking man
about it, like I want toend in a compromise. I hate the
drama, like we got beefless handleo shit and it's over with I see
that. I don't ever want toend on a bad note. I don't

(02:06:00):
like to go to sleep on abad note. Like I want to know
what we're at with this. Ifeel like an apology. The last thing
that should be said is the apology. Once you start offering first. Afterwards,
now you're you're you're dismissing. Iknow you're dismissing. I don't accept
apologies because apologies is always for theit's for it's personal. I don't say

(02:06:23):
anything, I don't mean, Sowhat the fuck am I apologizing for?
Right? I apologize how you mighthave taken it. But I'm a I'm
a why you do that in thefirst place type nigga. So you don't
believe apologies can be an answer fora mistake made well? Apology example,
Right, The apologies is judged.The apologies. The apologies are personal.

(02:06:43):
Right, So when I'm saying sorry, that's for you to know I and
I'm I'm wrong. It's not foryou to feel better. If I take
this fucking cup and break it,it's still broke. Sorry cup, No,
it's still broke. So it don'tmatter. You want to say you
have apologized to a woman and she'sstill mad. Right, Women apologize and
they want you to get over it, like no, bitch, like I'm

(02:07:04):
still mad. Like but that's thething, Like apologies are personal, So
I don't apologize. I understand andthen after that, like you said,
I end on. You know,I apologize if what I said made you
feel a way, but I meantthat. And I think that's the thing
with because I'm a person who unlessI really I'm not apologizing unless I really

(02:07:27):
mean this ship. So that createsconflict because unless I feel you have to
kind of like show me where Iwas wrong, because right, I feel
like, nigga, I was rightin my because for me, like for
instance, if I punch you onyour motherfucking face, Like, I'm not
a violent person. So for me, if I punched you in the face,

(02:07:49):
you took me there, that wasno, no, no, not
physical, not necessary. This isjust an example, okay, but not
necessarily that you made me do it. But at some point, if I
react in a certain way, I'vebeen back into a corner and I know
that I really go through the motionsof trying not to react a certain way.

(02:08:09):
So it's almost like you deserve thatship. I don't think. I
don't think it's a lack of athat's I know I didn't And I literally
said, not saying that you mademe do it, but for me,
like, I'm not a disrespectful person. Right, So let's just say you

(02:08:31):
and I have been talking for sixmonths, right, and I've never disrespected
you. But but to my knowledge, we've never had a conversation about it.
But there's one there's one time thatyou there's like things that you've done,
and then I get to my breakingpoint where I'm like, I don't
even because I'm really cognizant, LikeI take my time to think about what

(02:08:56):
I'm saying and all of that,and the moment, the moment that I
side that I don't want to becognizant, I feel like it's deserved because
I take a lot. So it'snot to say you made me do it.
You have a response to this,And I just want to know what
I would say if she owns it. Yeah, I'm gonna own it.
No, this is what I'll do. I'll be like, yeah, I'll

(02:09:16):
be like, yeah, I calledyou a bitch ass nigga, and here's
why, And I meant it becauseI say I say what I mean because
I think that I think that alot. I think that a lot of
times we actively like I'm always awareof what I'm choosing to do. So
if I choose to disrept you,for me, it was warrant aware.

(02:09:37):
Well, the one thing is youcan't listen. I can never hold somebody
accountable if you did what you didand said what you said, and you
stand on that ship. You can'tstand on bullshit. You can't stand on
being people always justify bullshit on aconsistent basis. But if you didn't leave
it with if it was a logicalfaustiness, logic is So I'm always aware

(02:10:00):
of this, right, I neverknow what your day is. I never
know how you're going to react tosomething, so I'm not aware how you're
going to respond to whatever I do. So I'm always aware of what I'm
doing. Right. So, forinstance, the nigga bumped me and bumped
me in the club one day,like a couple of months ago. He
bumped me boom, and I said, Bro, you should apologize, right,
so I don't got to fuck youup. You see what I'm saying,

(02:10:22):
She say sorry when you was wrongfor what you did? You did
it on purpose. I saw youwalking towards me. It was a bad
space you butmp me on purpose?Whatever? Just say sorry, bro,
please, because I know what.I know what I'm I know what I'm
willing to take this. You seewhat I'm saying. That's the same thing
she got. Now should the personknow that she was going to respond like

(02:10:43):
that? No, it's a littleimmature. And I think here's the thing
too, okay, Like I couldgive a real life example that happened today,
right, And I told a coupleof people this story. So I'm
out of my motherfucking business at work. A phone call, I'm like,
thank you for calling this calls beingrecorded for quality trance? What office location?

(02:11:05):
Did you follow up? The personon the other line says, I
ain't get it. You didn't getwhat ma'am. I didn't get the email.
Well, what email are you talkingabout? And who am I speaking
with? She tells me that,Well, I haven't spoken to you today.
I've never spoken to you period,so I'm not sure what you're talking

(02:11:26):
about. Can you please advise meon what you're calling about? Everybody in
that office should know who I am, well, but I ain't never spoke
to you, so I don't know, and I'm like, man, we
could be aware of who you areand still not know why you're calling me
answering the phone and you're saying Ididn't get it and I don't know.
So now at a certain point,I thought and said I thought and asked

(02:11:46):
you and explain six times. IfI get a little rowdy with your motherfucking
ass, I feel like that's warrantedbecause for a fucking war, it's warranted
in my mind, and that's theonly thing that matters to me. But
I can still justified. I canfor me, it's justified, but I
can still hold myself accountable and say, maybe I could have had more patience,

(02:12:07):
but for me, it's like forme to not have patience at this
point is justified for me. That'snot saying this right or wrong. I'm
a stand on the ship, butI'm gonna explain to you why right to
be frustrated, and I'm gonna belike, and they feel like they've been
disrespected, but what your two examplesthat you've given, the first one being
a everything has been cool and copeseticin a relationship when we were six months

(02:12:30):
and I've been letting a lot ofship slide. So now I'm at my
boiling point. I'm gonna call youa bitch at nigger. You don't know
from his perspective what he's been lettingslides. So is that what you guys
are both doing the same thing.You're letting, you're letting because because if
I've mentioned to you, if I'vetold you this bothers me several times,

(02:12:50):
but I haven't reached the boiling pointbecause my thing is, I'm gonna communicate
with you, right, I'm goingI'm consistently communicating, and then if you
don't take hey today, and howeverI react, that's how I react.
Men and women also react differently becausea lot of times when we bring up
little shit, it gets blown outof proportion. So it's easier for us
to avoid stress to be like,hey, yo, you know, I

(02:13:11):
ain't even finna sweat this, butit's something that annoys me too. And
then in your second example, whenyou're talking about somebody who just has shitty
phone etiquette, when you're trying tobe like cordial with her as a nigga
who deals with customer service representatives,when you're getting the run around all day.
If you've been on the phone onhold for fifteen minutes, twenty minutes
you talk, you explain your situationto three different people. I don't know

(02:13:33):
what her situation is. I'm justtalking about I've been to the point that
I've been so frustrated with AT andT or my doctor or whoever. By
the time the fourth person gets onthe phone like, yo, can you
explain your situation again, I'm like, nah, nigga, I just explained
the shit to three other motherfucking people. Let me know who I need to
talk to to get this shit resolvedtoday. But I have no right to

(02:13:54):
give you that type of energy becauseyou're not the one who's causing me the
problem. But we need to havempathyas humans for other humans that are that
I agree with you, even inAT and T situation, I will I
would be like, I'm fucking pissedbecause I've had to say this four times.
But I need you to know thatI'm not mad at you. I'm
just frustrated right now. So Ithink that how I operate sometimes and when

(02:14:16):
people don't operate that same way,it's even more like offensive our annoying.
Because if I can take the timeto acknowledge that not everybody has the same
emotional I try to experience. Itry to think of that, but every
situation empathy. Empathy is something thatwe all should have. But it's it's

(02:14:39):
levels to this empathy ship, right, it's levels, and and everybody don't
deserve empathy. I have almost toomuch empathy and that sometimes he told me
to get taken advantage. Listen,listen, if my empathy, if my
empathy, if my empathy scale didn'tactivate as often as it does, I
would be doing life in prison.Of course, I'm fighter, I'm a

(02:15:00):
shooter, I'm all of that shit. I always empathized too much. I
always think that everybody has the bestin Well, here's what I know.
I know everybody's not willing to takeit as far as I'm gonna take it.
So that's why the warnings come,right, And that's where empathy comes,
because, like, you know what, I'm afraid of me. I'm
very afraid of myself. I'm like, oh shit, bro, like even

(02:15:22):
with this comedy shit like and we'regonna in the show on the snow.
I remember when I went to Miamiand I did that show in Miami,
and I was bombing, Bro,I was bombing. It's one of my
first big shows. I first,my biggest show I did when I first
started doing comedy, and the crowdhated me. Bro. I led with
that New York shit. I'm infront of a fucking Miami crowd. They
hated me and it wasn't and I'mthinking off from New York nigga. I

(02:15:46):
was trash, bro Like. Ididn't know how to form a joke.
I didn't know what I was doing, and they offended me. And I
got emotional about it because I tookmy craft serious at the time, and
I started to like, Yo,what the fuck, and like really,
a couple of people laugh for somereal niggas in the audiers. They go,
wait a minute, this nigga serious, And I'm like, Yo,
I'll go to the car right now. But niggas in the audience is like,

(02:16:09):
my man is like yo. Jersey'slike yo, Bro, get off
stage. Bro. I knew whereI was willing to go, and it
was so hard for me to takethat deep breath and walk the fuck off
the stage. Bro. And asI got older and things happened in my
life that's transpired, I realized certainshit. You just got to walk away
from. Bro. It's not evenit's not even worth it. Son,
Most shit is most shit is notworth it. It's no it's worth it.

(02:16:31):
Sometimes sometimes i'm fight listening. Youknow how much of a blast I
have roasted these niggas online. Nowwith that, they're learning life lessons,
Like, oh shit, I'm usedto you think people who talk shit in
the comment section. I'm the firstperson they do this. That's what online
is, safe haven to talk yourshit. But you're like, oh shit,
Not only did hen't respond to merespond, not even did he respond,

(02:16:56):
he screenshoted it and made a postout of it. Nigga triple embarrassed
me. And I can't do nothingabout it. Even if I reported,
they're not gonna take it down becausehe took it a screenshot. It's beautiful.
I'm making the world a better place. One fuck control of the time.
Anyway, y'all, this was anamazing show. And I think at
this point where we at two minutesand two hours of seventeen seconds in seventeen

(02:17:18):
minutes, and I think we gota podcast and and no, we got
a pot for real, Hey wepotting, y'all. This is a podcast,
and I think this ship is aboutto go on a level that I've
never expected to go. But Ithink I think the two people I got
next to me is gonna like outreIt's gonna be like difference makers, like

(02:17:39):
shirt straight up, like I meanI've had. I think this is the
best team I've had with Jason.Shots of Jason. He's home right now
in New Jersey, in New York, but he's fucking a lot of the
content we get. He's given itto us, so y'all can't see him.
But that man matters on this showand appreciate you know what I'm saying.
King Dirtbag Will Mills and hate Dirtbagcalv Ray. Thank y'all for being

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here and being part of the show. And we have arrived All Jokes Side
Podcast. Even though this is episodetwo hundred and nine, this is episode
three, all right, and we'reup out of here. Shout out to
Fredo Cash from Baltimore, write aproducer of the All Joke Side theme song,
Let's get it till next week wewill see y'all. Let's go.

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Me and Pol Ray together, watchyour worst, calide me and calv
board out the six Hella Hawes inside, bitch your jokes side, I'm

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the ship. I'm the ship.Bit shill next week. Everybody. See
y'all, same time, same blood, Clyod Place,