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July 26, 2024 • 112 mins
In this episode, the team talks about family quarrels, Dr Umar, slavery and much more!!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And the crazy thing is it did two million views
last time I posted it. This ship is like, I
mean you you're old enough to remember the ship that
that it was like an intermission after a show.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
And he goes deep, you know what I mean? That ship?

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Do do do?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Do?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Do? Do? Do? Do? Do do? Look this right? You
remember this?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh yeah you don't remember this?

Speaker 1 (00:28):
No?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
What yeah? Okay, now that I see it, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
So I put, I put what do I what do
you bring to the table? That ship got a calm?
That ship did an m son that Now I was like, god, damn,
low key, I got it. I caught a calm m
and didn't even know it. One point three million right now,
that's nice. That's a nice That's gonna be a nice
little check Facebook playing with my money again. No, but

(00:56):
that's how I go. Anyway, let's get right into the show.
When when I like the sideball conversation for introduced or
we had episode two seventeen, What up?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Episode two seventeen?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Right? What up?

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah? Welcome back to episode two hundred and seventeen of
the Old Jokes Aside Podcast. I'm your host Will Mills
aka King dirt Bag, and we are joined once again
every week by my beautiful co host Ray Aka Honey
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a new pop pop on Boy Chicken Salmich you only.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Now for a limited time.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Aka beat Oh oh yeah, I forgot aka fiance?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Is it supposed to be a different name?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:41):
It was like rayonce?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
No, I don't no no, because I said with what
was what was Beyonce's name after jay Z proposed a fiance?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So you Rayons, I like rayonce? Now Riyonce is nasty.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
That sounds like you're trying to right.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Also joining us back.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
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you know what I mean, mister mister fall seven. Kevin
Dean Sir a k A Winnie the Pool Beer a
k A motherfucking jan Ye Morris from boys to men
when ben as.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
You had to have hear that one for them? Yeah,
I've heard one before? Was it me who said it?
A couple of people have said one.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
And there I that's a that's another a k a
k e A The sime Killer.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Or even up in the clouds, y'all, a.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
K A young ak A young deal closer because he
closes the deal.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Sometimes sometimes the deals get closed around me. So your
ris is crazy, though, son, you seen it in real time.
I've seen it several times.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
But you did the other You did it the other day,
and I'm like, snick, I don't know how you closed,
but I like the the the interlude, give me the atmosphere.
Where were at?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
And can y'all explain risk to me? Because I'm not
a commed there's some.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Young ship, but I mean I'm doing that. It's like gaming.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's game, Like.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I holler at you, how that's rise. I'm hollering at you,
but Riz speaks to specifically how good you are at
if a girl is like, oh he got rids, like
he's good at hollering.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
We was at we we oh, we was at chronic Guru.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Okay, and no it was it chronic Guru. It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh you know it was it was after Uniko last
night and the girl and we were leaving. And the
way you approach them, girls like they see that's the
thing I'm not. I'm not afraid to admitte. Contrary to
Pop believe, I'm bad at the cold bag. Okay, I'm
not a cold bag.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I got.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
This is me.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
This is why I get. I love this topic list.
I it seemingly I seemingly give off this.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Hold on a second, can you get situated over here?
What's going on with you? Put your bag away? Put
your bag away. There's a lot of movement, there's a
lot of she over here doing her taxes and ship
have to crop her ass out.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
The fuck is that shot?

Speaker 4 (04:05):
My bad job?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Situated?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Y'all?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I'm good. I'm good, So Mike, I'm not. I'm not
a cold bagger bro like I'm never the guy to
see a girl i'm attracted too and just go talk
to her, right Because for me, I don't like rejection,
so I like repport. She don't got to say nothing
to me, but we got to catch eye contact.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
How she's feeling you.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I'm not even wasting my fucking time because I don't
have riz.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm my I'm riz. I am risk.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Right, Okay, I got I got a lot of friends
that I clown for that ship.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
But I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I don't got
no I have.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I got a.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Couple of dudes that I was like, yo, go over
there and all at that girl. He's like, nah, I
don't want I don't want to get rejected.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
And I'm like, y corny ship like that.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
I'm like, yo, nigga, you sound petis fuck. Bro, go
over there, like nigga, all these girls are out here
for yo, it's a singles event.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Let me tell you something though, Bro, that ship comes
from growing up in New York.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Nigga. It's my nigga from New York.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Let me tell you how New York niggas is this, son,
this is how we are girl walking through the block.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
It's eighty niggas.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yo, Ma, yo, everybody, I'll sit back, yeah, And I'm
like and then and then I would go palling them.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
They they bugging what are you walking to? I'll walk
with you a little bit. I do that. Yeah, that's
my reds. That's the fresh Prince, good guy, back guy.
So I'm like, yo, Bro, does that even work?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Like, Son, I don't understand the energy of men sometimes, Bro,
Like it'd be a shorty walking down the street a nigga.
A nigga just honks home and keep driving. I mean
the fuck I didn't bust yous before like that. I'm
not honking at you? What what? What?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Are you expecting looking the river but she's running behind me?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Way way?

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Yeah, son, I like I like that you are. The
thing about you is you're very self aware. You understand, like, Yo,
these are these are my strengths, these are my weaknesses,
these are my insecurities. I'm the type of nigga that
is like, yo, confidence is gonna win over everything. So
even if I don't feel confident it Like for the
uned go example, shorties was walking by. I have been

(06:09):
messing with them all night when I'm on stage, right,
So I always want to let people know when I
get off stage, I'm not the same nigga that y'all
saw up there. That's an act. That's that's me and
a comedic persona. So yeah, I was talking shit like yo, Hey,
black girls don't like me. Yo, It's good with black girls.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
But mam and mom.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Now I get off the stage and I'm I produce
the show. I'm a businessman, so I come down. I'm like, Yo,
thank y'all so much for coming out. How come y'all
not following me yet? Y'all following me before you go?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
And then it's light. At that point, it's easy to
start a conversation. Right. But see here's my thing right.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Also, I was raised by old women me too, So
I was raised my sister. I watch my sisters and
my mother and them snipers, bro. They know how to
command the energy in a room.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
So that's the type of guy. I command the energy.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I give off energy to make a woman to say
something to me, and it could be an arrogant thing
or maybe like low key narcissism.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I've really never had.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
To bag like like if I if it's a chick,
I want I get her, but not by going up
and talking to her. Maybe I'll do something across the room,
send a drink something like that you got. I'm not
too strong, aura, Yeah, I'm not too vocal, Like I don't,
I don't I would. I don't know how to like,
but if I'm on vacation, I'll.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Do it because the risk is low. You never see
her again. Also watch this.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Though I play female games bro like I'm dead ass,
I'll meet a chick son and see her for I'm like, okay,
I'm gonna see her again, so I'm gonna leave her
with that Who was that mask?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Man? That?

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Like?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I was like everything great for you all right, I'll
see you later and then walk away because I in
my head I'm see again you planying to seed, plant
to seed, nigga, don't say shit because I'm also trying
to see if it's even worth it.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah it is, Lady, what do you prefer as a woman?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Do you like seeing a man and being like, Yo,
I'm gonna go over there and bag them? Or do
you want that nigga to come over, come over to
you and have game and ship.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
I'm not waiting, so I can't. Like, my relationships have
always been me setting and positioning myself to be in
your life.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
See, but the thing with you is I hate women
like you.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Why because you got homegirl energy so so, but you're
also pretty so a dude will want to sleep with you.
But it's kind of hard to break the ice, right
because it's cool, like we could sit there and talk,
you can you got you got like you could be
my homegirl. Like so when you're talking to a dude
for men, it's hard to make the transition out of

(08:41):
the friend zones.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
And like, I don't think so because I don't. I
I'm very forthright with it, Like I'm not gonna come
up and be like, hey, nigga, I want you, but
you'll know, like Ryanna tell y'all like I literally let me.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Ask you a question though.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Did you already know him?

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, we knew each other, but we we the frequency
in conversation when we actually started to like like each other. Well,
according to him, he's liked me since the first time
he ever met me, right, but I didn't.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
But we weren't.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
But we weren't like communicating all the time. It would
literally be like if I had a show, he was
he was someone that would come out and support. But
you know, you don't even.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, you don't even see the whole risk.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
He did the thing I just said.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
But when I saw like when I saw him, I
was like, oh bitch. But now I'm like, now I'm
sliding in his But this is like no, because we've
known each other for like twelve years, but it's just
in recent years where it's like we were never like
just on the phone like Homeboy Homegirl stuff. It was
like I support you know, you see the same people like.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Homegirl home like like like I mean like this, yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
I'm always cool.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
It's fu.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
But he can but he could go back and be
like nah, like I remember that one time you came
and pulled up on me and you got me a
cause you know, I sing, he wraps. I know when
I go to sing, I want to do. I like
hot tidies, so that's a thing for me, and so
if I'm hot titties, so basically tea with whiskey, oh

(10:23):
the drink. So I got him one and I just
was like, you know, but I slid in his ship.
It was like hey, like I like battle Rap, so yeah,
it was on some it was home it was homegirl stuff.
But I was like consistently like and then I'm like, hey,
what you doing tonight? You want to kick it? And
then he tried to. Then he tried to get He

(10:44):
was like I don't know, like he had some other stuff.
He was watching battle Rap or whatever, and I was like, no,
I'm pulling up. We could still because we were supposed
to meet for like karaoke, but it was getting too
late and I was like, no, I'm gonna pull up.
And then I came over there with a I was
cute as hell. I had a handle of teato on spot. Yeah,
I was on the spot. So I was like like, hey,
what's up. When I got there, it's like, yeah, we

(11:06):
being cool, but I'm definitely letting you know like.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
It wasn't done that night.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, let me tell you some respect.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Respect.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Let me tell you something though, as a man, we
will play that game. Son, I'll play the game right
back with you. Because here's the thing too, right, what's
the game? Watch this a fucked the game? Fuck the game.
Let me just say this when it in regards to
her situation, we know what we would be with and
we know what we would just fuck. Right. Women do

(11:37):
the same thing because I got offended by that ship
when I was younger. Some chick said she took a
long time to fuck me, and I'm like, but I
know that she met dudes and smashed him on the
first night.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, she was trying to see if you was a
boyfriend materary.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Right, So watch this. Men do the same. Women do
this shit. Women will fuck to do like you know,
it's like that fuck Mary kill game. Yeah, yeah, you attractive.
I'll fuck you, nigga, but I ain't trying to be
with you. I don't take you serious. So I'm gonna
give it to you fast and get it over with.
But the nigga I really want to be with I'm
gonna make him. Wait the fuck is that? Son? Men
do the same shit like the woman, I'm not even

(12:13):
if I'm really trying to be with a chick or
take us serious, I'm not about that.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'm about to come correct son, right.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Like, all energy is different facts because the chicken who
you just you First of all, you know she's giving
up sexual energy.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
First of all, I'm nervous. She's not getting no date.
You're not even get I'm nervous. I'm not even.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Getting no date. Like you're come through, like pull up
right now.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
My riz is on the all time high because I
have no uh, I don't care.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
I don't have no expectations. If I meet and you're
all the way single, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I'm super single. I'm like, yo.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
If I hollered at her and she bowed it, cool,
another girl on the roster or somebody I could rock with,
maybe we maybe I could even wipe up. She could
be cool. But for the most part, like whatever. But
if I if I like a girl, if I'm like, yo,
this girl got wifey material qualities, Like this is the
kind of girl I can see myself being with. I'm
already fumbling it because I don't want to like, do
I slide in the dms?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Do I come too funny? Do I come serious?

Speaker 4 (13:04):
But like, I think it's just like the banter. But
I get I can understand what you're saying about the
homegirl energy. But I do feel like when I really
because I will.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Start And also, you betterm in a place of business.
Y'are both as singers, yeah, but you know what I mean,
like singers are friends with singers.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, But I think that I think that it's a
distinct difference in energy and approach regardless of how I'm
coming when I really want somebody because I'm I'm cool
as hell like so, I feel like it's easy to
be a homegirl, but I'm not. I'm not consistent in
that homegirl space. If I don't, if I'm not interested
in you like that, I'm pushing like nah, I ain't

(13:43):
taking no foreign answer. We were kicking it tonight or not.
I don't care that this midnight now and that the
karaoke place is closed because we could just do karaoke
at the crib. What's your address? I'm coming over.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I think it's all about energies of how cool the niggas.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Are not not aggressive like that?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
No, no, no, no, no, I like that because I'm I'm like,
I'm not letting this stay like this, you know what
I'm saying, because because at that at that point, when
when it gets to that point where like, you know what,
I know how to shut all at them, like you
know what I'm saying, because you can't let like keep
that because that energy is sexy as fun for us. Well,
because I think this is when women say for a

(14:20):
woman to take the leave, for a lot of men,
that's that's intimidating.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
I think that.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Let a woman should let a man know what she
wants and then he take the leaf from there. I
think a lot of times when women say that it's intimidating,
our men don't like it. It's like, it's not that
we don't like, we don't like you specifically.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Well, now, also that's you are trapped.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
But that and also that's unfamiliar territory to a lot
of men because if you the sniper and you the
one who's who risen all the chicks up, and then
now all of a sudden, she's like, yo, so what's
she called you up? I remember up my ex k
shout out the k. You don't watch the show The Wire. No,
you don't watch The Wire. No.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
So the kid on the show, I think the kid
Michael B. Jordan, Yeah, he was on.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
So the kid naming is on it. That's her brother. Okay,
so that was my ex girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Oh okay, so your your girlfriend was sisters to one
of the.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, and I was with her when the show was
at its peak. She was my girl.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Man, So yeah, shout we're still cool. I guess I
think we are. I haven't haven't. I haven't heard from
my years, but I think we're cool. So I met
her at her job. She worked at a jewelry store,
and we me and my boy went in there. We
bud some jewelry and ship. You know what I'm saying,
I come in here fly. She from New York, but
we living in Florida at the time. So later on,

(15:43):
so then like two nights, I'm like, yo, I gotta
take I want to approach things differently.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I'm taking her on the date. Bro. So I took
it out. I took it out.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I guess at the time, I'm super young, fresh out
of college, Like I'm like, let me go downtown Disney.
I'm thinking this is some five star ship. We went
to a dope restaurant. I took a you know, I'm saying,
I got some roses and ship like that.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
We had a good time. I ain't do nothing at night.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Next time she goes, she calls me and she's like, hey, listen,
thank you for the wonderful night last time. But I'm
taking you out the night and it's on me and
I'm like, cool, nigga, that ship scared me so like
I've never I don't understand, man, I no, no, bro,
that's the first time a woman I'm in my early twenties,

(16:29):
I did jump out. I did jump off of that,
but I said, yo, women do that. She was ill
for that ship, yeah, and not for nothing. At that moment,
I'm like, no, I'm white for her up. But that's
that's my girlfriend right there. That's not going to be somebody.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
I'm just fucking the tricks that women will do to
get wiped up and then still be a trash ass
girl in the relationship.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
She wasn't. She was alright, though she was specifically, But
I know women.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
I don't say all women. There's a lot of women
that will do, they'll play the games.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
That's a.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
That's a that's a that's a topic right there. I'm
buy you what you want. I'm gonna buy you your
favorite sneaker. I'm gonna take you on a nice day. Hey,
I was in your apartment. I saw you didn't have
any cleaning products. I bought you a bunch of stuff.
And then you're like, damn, this girl is so thoughtful,
and then stopping and then I'm and you think she's
wifey material.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
This is why I tell.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Women, stop stop asking niggas to set the ball so hard.
Don't stay like that. So you're not getting Dubai and
motherfucking five star restaurant for me until way down the line.
I'm not starting there. How am I gonna upstate?

Speaker 4 (17:32):
And honest that honestly starting Like if a nigga was
starting like that, I wouldn't even trust it. That's a.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
If that's a tax bracket.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Then you if he's light for him, Yeah, it might
be light for him, but that's when people jump out
the gate doing that. That's definitely a sure sign of
possible love bombing, and that ends up being worse than And.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
That's a great topic. Let me ask y'all a question,
because I think that we all might be in different
money brackets here and that I think it's causing conflict
online when you go out to when you take a
shorty to eat at a restaurant, or when you get
taken out to eat at a restaurant, Do y'all know
that there's levels to the restaurant. There's obviously there's McDonald's,

(18:21):
then there's chili, then there's cheesecake factory, then there's roof Chris,
and then so on cress and there's fucking.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
So I'm glad that you brought up cres is cres
a flex or not what I'm asking. What you're saying,
it's cress.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Light work for you, like that's work for me for
un Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
See, that is the type of energy that you run
into with some of these women where you're like, hey,
I'm doing something. Cress is a big deal for me.
If I take a girl out to if I like
a girl, I'll just be like, hey, let's.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Go, because you're guaranteed to spend like two fifty.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Yeah, but I wouldn't expect the god to take just
take me. I guess it depends.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
It's still an expensive date though, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Still an expensive date. But I'm saying I'm doing that. Yeah,
I'm doing that myself. So it's just like, oh, okay,
we're going to Cress.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I did Cres last Friday night on some like just
throw away.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Then you got, you got.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
It's not impressive. It's not impressive to me. But I'm
also not expecting you to just take me to Cress
on the first date either.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, so if I take you at an outback steakhouse,
You're not gonna feel no way versus Uh, I'm.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Not gonna necessary I'm not gonna necessarily feel some type
of way. I just don't like out back. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. Like, so I would just probably
not want to do out. But if I like the
nigga like.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
That level, like Bahama Breeze or something.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Like that ship Bahama Breees and is fire I did,
we can.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
We can go to certain places that's cheaper, but it's
a vib like like like Toy Tori is a vibe. Yeah,
the Wave Hotel and like no, no, no myself, Boxy Park Bob.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
We just went to Nami so Yob. This past weekend
because he surprised me with a proposal, and we know
that I saw that we hadn't got an opportunity to
just celebrate and have time for ourselves because obviously we
was in a house full of people. And but then
my mom and Pops stayed in the additional week and
they were with us, so we literally had no moment

(20:26):
to So I was like, let me just do a
little surprise for my man. And I had Nami for
the first time and is at the wave, so it's
not inside of the wave, but it's attached to the wave.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Well that's not like sushi is a sushi spot.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Well, it's like a Japanese fusion.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
And they got like like a lot of like top
buzz and shit over there, like smaller dishes chops. Let
me tell you something. There's certain things like like let
me get right. When I lived in New York, right,
I lived in Brooklyn, I lived in in Best Style,
Dirty best Stop in East New York. I lived in
the hood hood. So if I meet a chick that's
from Brooklyn or from the Bronx or from Queens and

(21:04):
some shit like that, they really don't go to Manhattan.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
So bro Manhattan.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Back then, training was a dollar fifty and you could
take a twenty minute ride to go to West Broadway
or the House then or to Soho area, Chelsea. Bro,
it's little shops you can go to, Nigga. I used
to go to Barns and Nobles Son, Barns and Nobles
at a cafe in there.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I would get like a decap.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I didn't drin coffee, so I would get a decaf
cappuccino and like go to a certain book section and
pick out certain books and get like a crepe or
some shit like that.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Nigga.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Shit is the shit was twenty dollars, bro. But the
environment was such a vibe, and you took a shorty
with you. That was what that was my day. Shit.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah cool, nigga out here I usual to go.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
You know. I used to go win a park and
win a park on Park Avenus a park there and
a park got all roses. It's just a rose park, Nigga.
That shit is a vibe. Like I said, Boxy Park
is chep. You ever been in a Boxy bark? Yeah,
Boxy Park they got the bar already. The bar is
mad cheap. They got the dancing. They got the.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
It's damn near free Broe Park. Pizza is fire.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
And it's different than just when a nigga lead with money,
you're he's garbage.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Bro Like when you don't have nothing, you don't have
no personality. When when you lead with money, she's gonna
treat you just like that.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Cause it could be and it is levels, and I
think that it does depend on where you at to
Like I remember when when I first got like when
I first moved here and got my first corporate job here,
and I remember they took like my boss, we went
to lunch and he took me to Marlow's tavern. That
was like the scale to me, and then it was
like known to Blue that was upscale to level and

(22:46):
then it and then it's like okay. Then there's like
kobuki comes into play and it's like, oh, nigga.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
That's why, that's why these people on the internet are
having arguments. You remember a few months ago when niggas
was like girls were like, oh, if a nigga take
me the cheesecake factory, that nigga.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Is a dud. Also that was a skit, okay no,
but there was came it brought out around a lot
of stupid women.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
And then Cheesecake Factory is so overwhelming to me.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
It got too many but factory, it's not if you
if you're going to if you're going to Chick fil A,
you're going to be happy about Cheesecake Factory. And I
know all these bitches love.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
If you like Olive Garden. Yeah, but like bro, a
couple of months ago, my homegirl, is it Longhorn that
be having the lamb chops long on? But I was like,
I haven't.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Nigga, I'm back, fire, Nigga, I'm back.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
It's situational. It depends on the location. Are you looking
for the vibe?

Speaker 1 (23:45):
If I want a good vibe and and spend some
decent money, were going to the h We're going to Helstone.
You've been to Heilstone in the back, nigga, the lake
back then that ship is a vibe.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
That damn uh well because in Atlanta and stuff, it's
called Houston's but Hillstoney Houston's is the same. But that
Houston real by well whatever the Hills to whatever.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Sorry the people listening that I'm from around.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Here, I don't know what we're talking about. Fire, But
like I'm big on that old like nigga. Just people
don't understand. Just drive catch Google Nigga. It's nothing wrong, bro,
with taking a fucking nature walks. Yeah, let me tell
you something. There's certain places in these parks with his creaks.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Can I get you was up? I take a I
take a basket. I put a blanket in there. Take
her to Lake Yola. Put that that blanket in that
basket out. Bitches go create. Women go crazy over a picnic.
It been, it's been forever. They only see it in movies.
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
That's that's one of the most fun I give you
the picnic I take to that work to put in
just why you have a baskets?

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Bitch opened up on boats I got. I went to
Amazon and I was like, to.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Your point, there's nothing wrong with taking to your point
where there's nothing wrong with taking like a nature walk
or something. One of my most memory, one of our
most memorial dates, whenever we first got together, we literally
went to Baldwin Park and he loves he loves cigars,
Are he not? He don't smoke him all the time,
but he's kind of an old so cigar with some cognac.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Admiral the admiral.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
So we did the admiral we had a drink he did,
and then we did. We rode, then we rode the
scootie bikes. We just went around Baldwin Park and rode
the schoolie bike things and that was that was fun.
And then you came and then just came back home
and ordered uber eats like that was fire.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Like it don't have to be you know what else
you got Listen, get niggas.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
We give a niggas see game ax throwing gun range.
All of that ship is different. So like niggas be
on some like like why is food always? Bro's so
much things other than fucking food, nigga and ready go race?

Speaker 4 (26:20):
What's that one place?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Ship?

Speaker 4 (26:23):
We do it for our What I'm trying to think
not I drive like Ala area social.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
What's the way?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
They got pop stroke over there?

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Now they do you do own that right? Drive sho popstroke?
Tiger Woods own it. It's called pot stroke. It's a
it's a Di's administed your golf wace.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
They got drive shack, which is.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Top golf. Really all of this ship is just for women,
but it's fun.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
But niggas. But that's the thing. Niggas don't know what
women want. So this is why food is See, women
think women, women are so women think men are so
simple that they put food. Yo. I'm not you gotta
spend this much on me because I spent this much
on myself. First of all, shorty, if you come at
me with that bullshit, I'm inviting you somewhere where you're

(27:18):
gonna get fucked. In fact, you want money, Okay, we're
going to the we're going to combat the four Seasons.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
I'm in a booker room there.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
After we were all the wave on notes. We're gonna
we're gonna eat and you be fucking after that. If
you want to leave the money, I'm a fuck you
in an expensive hotel room. Or you want to have
a good time, let's get it. Let's get a topic going.
That was a good ship though keV.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
keV had something he wanted to keV. What was the
what was the thing?

Speaker 4 (27:49):
You?

Speaker 5 (27:50):
Yeah, I think that this is an important topic. We
need to discuss this sometimes. And I think that, uh,
it's happening to me. It's happened to me before. Sometimes
you gotta clown niggas into upgrading them them. You have
to shame young men. Uh, maybe even in your twenties
and thirties for them to act right elaborate.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
I'll give you an example.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
I have a little cousin, and my little cousin, he
don't be putting deodorant on, and he'd be hanging out,
he's he's working out now, he's going to the gym,
and he'd be smelling musty sometimes, so he and nobody
could tell him nothing. But it wasn't until we was
all hanging out with a group of me and my friends.
We all chilling, like, yo, what's up with your musty, dusty,

(28:33):
crusty ass. We start cracking jokes on him. He's laughing
in the moment, but you can tell he's uncomfortable. After that,
nigga never smelled funny again.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Like, and it only happens with men. Yeah, you can't
do a woman.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
You can't do with women. They're gonna be you know,
you're gonna feel a way. I'm giving myself. I'm gonna
give myself some some credit.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
The Orlando comedy scene is roasting each other because of me. Like, Bro,
when I first saw this nigga taking credit for roasting
I'm telling you ten years right, at the other bar.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
The highlight wasn't the show, it was after the show.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Bro. I would flame everybody out there, Bro, and all
of them became better comics because of it, because I'm
I'm like and I make niggas get on a point.
Because as a guy who prizes myself on fashion, like
the dress right, there's not too many comedians who actually
put that shit on. Bro, I would say me and
you Jari sometimes. But Jari still don't dress bad. He

(29:29):
just wears some questionable articles of clothing, but he don't
dress bad.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
No, he's cool. He's his own niggas. He cares about
the way he looks. No, he cares about the way
he looks. For sure, he got to.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Shape up hair, certain he smell good. But there's some
mo But ninety percent comedians, Bro, look like fucking bums.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Bro bums.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
The thing about it is all the time, if you
dress a certain way, I don't care how funny you are, nigga.
The thing about being in the comedian, once you hit
the stage, I'm looking at you. I'm looking you know
what are you about to say this? Nigga look too
fat to be a comedian?

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Like yeah or nigga I don't believe in none of
your jokes. You got a crusty ass white tea on.
I'm gonna joke on you and what you're wanna say.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I've seen comics get silenced by the audience because they
flamed some ship they had on. You've seen that happened,
of course, But you how you're gonna rebuttle that. Now
you're fighting with the audience because your sneakers is fucked up, nigga.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
And you know what I don't like is a lot
of these niggas like, you know, I'm just being me,
but you're not.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
You don't you don't know no better.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
I see a lot of these niggas upgrade once they
get a girlfriend and shit and they start feeling themselves.
There's certain niggas out here shout out, Shout out to
my niggas. They getting haircuts, they get in shape ups,
they get a nice pair of shoes. But the problem
with that is if they get the nice pair of sneakers,
they wear them every day to every single mic.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Let me tell you something, bro, Yeah, they wear him quick.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
I don't understand how as a man like my son
is six, bro, his shoe game is insane. I don't
give fuck out fastest.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
His mother be like, why do you keep buying him?
I'm like, it's nice to have money.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
It's not about money something. Listen, it's about money. You
can't buy something bad night shoes if you don't have money.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Listen. It's about faking until you make it sometimes, because
let me tell you something, I didn't always have bread. Bro,
you know what I'm saying. I'm from Brooklyn, New York.
Everybody broke. Everybody looked they got money.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, that's what's wrong with the black society, with the
black eximpt. You don't seen givens you I trying, of course.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Okay, you remember on that movie fifty was trying to
get a record deal. Yeah, right, and nobody was paying
no mine. Yeah, but he got the He bought the
five hundred bends. He went to the record the executive
and gave him his mix. No, he gave him his mixtape. Okay,
he said, Yo, this is my mixtape, check it out
and walked off real arrogant and dude' like, yo, that's
your five hundred bins right there. He was like yeah,

(31:40):
and walk the funck off. Oh yeah, I'm a oh yeah,
that guy with the five hundred bends. I'm gonna watch
him son.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
You know what, that shit matters.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Jones talks about that a lot, especially when like he's
like I would go and buy fake, a fake rolex
or whatever until I could actually afford it. But people
was respect then the look at least and would buy
into the vision because that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
But here's my thing, right, when it comes to shit like,
only black people that have to do that shit.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Right, because white people don't even have to nothing.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Because well, even when you reach a certain tax bracket,
you stop showing signs of your wealth, right because there's
a difference between the way Mayweather looks and jay Z looks.
Right like at this point, because you go back to
two thousand and three, jay Z big big fucking chick,
kilo of gold, diamonds and rolexes everywhere, the latest car.

(32:35):
Now you can't pay jay Z to watch his wash
that he's wearing is some shit that you have never
heard of, and it's probably five hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
His head looks crazy. He wears not a piece of jewelry.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's differ when you get to a certain tax bracket
because it's a difference between rich and wealth. Black people
don't have shit who not used to having anything. It's
it's a self conscious thing.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Bro. Even yeah, you hit the nail on the head.
Not too serious as out but even doctor Umar, he
talks about YO. Black men have to have these outward
expressions of identity. You gotta have a chain, you gotta
have an.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Expensive card because you don't have internal self worth. So
you have all of this worth that's around you on
you to say, hey, look, white man, I'm valuable. Look society,
I'm I'm worth something. I think Umar got that wrong.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I don't think we give a fuck about what white
people think about it because we don't deal with them.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
I think it's on a subconscious level. It's not just
white people. You're giving your caustting it out to society,
say look, I'm special, I'm valuable.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Well, I think it's also where you're from, because you're
from Saint Cloud, Becauseimei, I'm from Brooklyn. But there's guys
who are from Memphis and from Chicago, Alabama. They don't
deal with white people on any level, so they're proving
it they're worth to the hood, right right, So, but
Umar in particular, uses white people as cantilist, which he

(34:01):
overdes anyway, because we're the school at Nigga.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
He working on it, bro. Sorry, let me say give
him a second.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Umar is the smartest, dumbest black man in America. Bro. Like,
anytime I hear him begging for donations, I say, yo,
go get a fucking job, nigga, because now you're a
downplaint because you're supposed to be the example. You open
it up to Frederick Douglas School whatever. Why do we
gotta pay for that school? Nigga? Why are you trying

(34:29):
to gaslight me and say I should care about your school.
The nigga who opened up Harvard and Yale didn't say,
you know what, hey, I want to open up a
school because you all help me. You go do it yourself.
That's exactly how it got done. But they had got
a bank loan.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah, but what he said is I wanted to be
all owned by black people, through black people.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I don't want to have a white man for help.
Here's what you do. Go get your bank loan.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
At some point, white people are gonna have to interact
with you, because whether it's a bank loan or whether
it's a them funding it. It could never be fully
black funded. That's his whole point.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
He's saying that we don't have any hospitals, we don't
have any grocery stores, we don't have any banks, and
we don't have anything.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
You know what, blame mart Luther Kingson's And I'm telling
you why to blame Mark Luca held the one be
real we did. We did have those things at once. Yeah,
there why we had it during segregated into before before segregation,
we had it. I think segregation and I was one
of the Integration was one of the worst things that
I had for black people. For sure. It was one
of the worst things because we had black doctors, and

(35:32):
we had doctors.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
We had lawyers because we didn't have no choice.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
We had lawyers, we had doctors, schools, and we were thriving.
We had the highest percentage of married people in the
country at one for sure.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
It wasn't until fucking I have a dream.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
He fucked ship up.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
I know, the detentions was good.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Yeah, but also the government they was destroying Black Wall
Street and ship they was fucking they was sucking up
our establishments.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Right. But but we could but you can they tore
down the physical infrastructures of the things we had, the
mind states and the mindset that the black people didn't change.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Think the society changed overnight when miel King had that speech.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
I don't no, no, no, no, I don't think white
people otherstan I don't think Luisy Cater comedian, you know Luis,
he had a great joke and he said he don't
think he has the social White people want to act
like they're socially mature. Right, He's like yo, He's like,
I could I could say right here in front of
y'all that if this was seventeen fifty five, that I

(36:36):
wouldn't own slaves.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
But come on, son, how are you going to say that?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Bro? Right? Just like I mean, like me and you
are both men of a certain age, nigga, could we
honestly say that.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Whatever you're about to say, I can't sign.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I'm just saying back in the early nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
When I have a young wife, Yeah, how could you
say that people don't change? Human nature don't change. Laws change.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Sure, Yeah, we've had this conversation.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
The laws changing people Like, I don't think people change
at all.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I think that's evident. Just speaking, going back to the
conversation we was having before we started filming, like niggas
was young at hell, fourteen, Yeah, dealing with twenty one
year old let me tell you whatever the case may be.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
In high school, bro in the nineties, nigga, y'all know,
y'all girls, what I'm talking about. All the bad chicks
in my high school had a grown ass man picking
them at the school.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Per definitely was in eighth grade and my boyfriend was
in high school and had a car, and that was
like the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
That's what it was. Yeah, but perverts kind of fucked
it up because they were odeed if they had kept
a little quiet.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Olence is important.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Listen, all Kelly married Aliah when she was fifteen.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
Anybody knew that nobody really better than I. Anybody knew
that we It wasn't even a big deal. It's not
a huge deal. It wasn't until we started shape people.
There became the age of the Internet where it's like, yo,
why are you not ashamed of this shit? And then
people were like, oh no, that you're right. Shouldn't people
grow up? I shouldn't be okay with this?

Speaker 1 (38:09):
The world, the Internet. Here's my thoughts of the Internet,
which is why I hate and love it. My whole
thought process is social media should, for the sake of
the human race, two weeks out of the month, shut
down completely and not even work. The Internet shouldn't even
be allowed to work for two weeks out of the month,
two weeks on two weeks because one of the reeforce

(38:32):
social interactions with people, and it'll forced people to think
for themselves. Bro. The Internet. When I've grown up in
the early two thousands, the nigga the mid two thousands, Bro,
there was no GPS, son. You had to fucking type
in the directions on matt Quest and print out the
paper and read.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Nigga, you know how many.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Grown people I know that you need a GPS to
get home from work.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Me.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I go to the same place every day, Nigga, never I.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Can't get back home. But I can't get home from today.
I can't get crazy. I'm like, make a right on
Livington Street. Where's that?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I'm like, bitch, you never looked up at the sign
and see what it's said.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
That's also because women don't know signs. The women don't land,
but also women.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
I'm right by the McDonald's right, now, women women walking
women were bound to the same rules that we were
bound to, right, So what that means that like, also,
kids are dumber now. People are dumber now, and so
having access information is a is a is a is
a good and bad thing because, bro, you can't retain

(39:39):
information if you're googling everything. Right, So when I when I,
when I I've passed the test to get on Jeopardy
three times? My nigga, my bringing is full of useless knowledge, right,
and I pride myself on that ship. But now I
got my children. Who are my children arguing facts with
me because they fucking google some ship? I remember one

(39:59):
of my daughters, right, nigga. I actually be a manager
at a budget avis rent a car. I was the
manager there years ago. She come to me because the
mother wanted to rent a car. She comes to me,
she goes, hey, Dad, how much is it to what's
the deposit like to rent a car? I'm like, well,
if you got a credit card, it's nothing they charge
you at the end. They just hold a certain portion

(40:21):
of it. But if it's a debit card, it's two
hundred dollars they take out of your account, and they
charge you after the the you know you finished with
the car.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
I don't know if I believe that. The first of all,
you're the authority on this, bitch.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
You know that shouldn't even matter the fact that I've
rented a car before, I've done this before you she's
like sixteen then, And why asked me? If you're not
gonna accept my answer, you got and I knew the
answer the minute you asked me.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I didn't have to google ship. Yeah, I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Like I'm fighting this is the thing as adults. We're
fighting Google. Bro. As a smart person, being intelligent is
a fucking handicap. Bro.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I don't argue with people. Just believe what you want
to believe.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
I think too, like when when the age of the
Internet was getting popularly, it's because I know, how old
are you? Thirty two okay, I'll be thirty six this
year and you're four, okay, so we're kind of all
like Internet started happening at the same time. I feel like,
because Internet was so new, we just like like deep

(41:27):
diving into stuff, especially if you like learning things. But
now because information is so readily available, they're gonna go
by whatever The first thing is that they see. So
that's why like certain stuff, certain stuff I don't even
like talk about. I'm like until I do a deep dive. Yeah,
I gotta do a deep But I do feel like

(41:49):
because information is so readily available, sometimes I catch myself
feeling dumb as fuck, Like I'm my mom raised us
to be very great speakers. She didn't play about him
and ship. She didn't play about your verbiage like my
mama's voicemail used to say thank you for calling whatever.
Whatever I said verbiage, what I said burbage. Look I

(42:12):
be I'd be pronouncing all the stuff I have a notice,
Like because there's auto correct on your phone, you be
second guessing how to spell for autocorrect. You could spell anything.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Let me say that I found out about myself even
when I post, I was gonna go back and edit.
My brain moves faster than my word, so I'll be
leaving words out every all the time you do that.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
I gotta go back and I mean, and then I
gotta go.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
My shit be looking wow.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
I will double check before I post. But then there's
sometimes where I'm like, I'm using words in the correct context,
but I'm like uncertain.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Now that's a that's a that's us.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
I'm like, is that wait? Did I do that right?
Or I'll say something. I'm like, wait, is that? Is
that how it's supposed to be Ten years ago?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
I'm like I when full coming, in full confidence. I
know that I said burbage correctly ten years ago, but
today I'm like my mom's voicemail used to say, leave
your name and number, and now I'll get back to
you as expeditiously as possible.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I would I would have left the message, but that
is how I.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Called you before, and that's his origin story.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
That's how important. That's how important. Learning different ways to
say things was important to my mom. So it's like
we always grew up knowing how to talk, like the
black people being so well spoken, like that was that.
But I'd be feeling myself because information is so readily available.
The phone does everything for you. I'll be over here
like I feel dumb as fuck, Like why why am

(43:54):
I second guessing how to spell restaurant?

Speaker 1 (43:56):
I don't know how to spell restaurant either.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Why I'll be happy to be like risk sore aunt,
like I have to do that. It's weird now so
I agree.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
But people are like once again, like kids are not
as fences. I children my first kid at eighteen, and
I had my own crib.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
That's wild. And I had a car. I lived on
my own, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
My son is twenty three and still lives with me,
and my daughter's twenty one and still lives with me.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I live with my parents for a wit.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
But here's the thing, I don't know if that means
the world.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
The world one percent was a different.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Place, right.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Economy is different.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
First of all, it was easier financially, but also because
there was no internet and there was a lot of
thinking for yourself.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Common sense was fucking essential.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
You don't need.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Common sense to kind of you need commidence when dealing
with people nowadays, but you don't need common.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Sense with with with with.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
With like eating and cooking. You can fucking google a
recipe or like, let me go look at mister beast,
let me see what he making today?

Speaker 5 (45:03):
Like now you can learn to cook from there. Yeah,
but you have to you back then?

Speaker 1 (45:09):
You good right now?

Speaker 4 (45:12):
No, because I hadn't looked, Yes, I had a I
was like, wait, am I tripping? Did I say?

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Oh? Wow? After you just said, because she's reading it
the way she's pronouncing the way it spelled.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
That's why I said, I think you can say either one.
I think it's like herbs are.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
No but that.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
But I did see it, see that there's one that's
like a noun, and then whatever. I don't whatever, But
y'all knew what the fuck I was talking about.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Now, all right, most of you don't even know that word, period.
But bro, very articulately, I dead asked, like, when I
first came out here for college, my crip, I had
a two bedroom townhouse and now it's Baldwyn Park. That
ship wasn't Baldwin Park back when I was now motherfucker,
my rent was five hundred and forty dollars. Bro, I

(45:56):
had a two bedroom townhouse. That's crazy upstairs and downst
is washing dry is sentral a dope ass crib That
same crip right now is like thirty eight hundred dollars,
the same crib son. Yeah, you know what gas was
when I first moved out am what dollars seventy five
ninety nine cens of gallon ninety nine cents.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
So it's kind of hard to be hard on these
this generation.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Bro, I don't even want my kids. I'm scared for
the new move out. Not only I know they can't
afford it. They're not mentally ready. They are not mentally ready,
like especially respectfully to any of my baby mother's babe watching, yo, listen,

(46:41):
Single mothers is a huge problem. I've been waiting for
this topic. Say something, son, single bitter mothers.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Thank you for at least specifying.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, single bitter single mothers are a problem because.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
You have you know, it was a good example of that.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
You ever seen Boys and Hood of course, Okay, Angela
Bassett dropped him off to his father. Yeah, because she
knew she didn't have the tools to raise a boy
m hm. And then she went off like furious. Styles
had the same job through the whole movie. Like, yeah,
but this bitch went and finished. She was in the

(47:22):
hood too, She got her shit together, She became a lawyer.
She was in a high rise apartment by the end
of the movie. Yeah. She never never spun the block
for this nigga though, Like, this nigga wasn't dead smacking
his friends getting kidded. He was pussy. He was pussy
son his friends getting killed, he getting beat up by
the cops. He was not a gangst at all. She

(47:44):
left that nigga right there and saying got her own
shit together. Bro, turn that shit was a fucking uh.
That was a hindsight into the future.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Nigga.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
That's the most unrealistic movie ever because that would never happen.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
No, it was what John Singletons shoulders is no no offense.
Men are better parents than women. I'm all right, you
heard the word I use right, parent, parent. You don't
have to be you don't have to be even a

(48:17):
person's biological blood to be a parent. Right. So look,
these are statistics. We can google them, but fuck it,
we don't. I'm not going to google. I might agree
with you, I don't think it's a crazy hot time,
right because watch this, right, when you look at how
kids are developed, right, mother and father, of course, are
the best place for a child. We all could agree
on that. Mommy daddy in the same house can produce

(48:39):
some of the best people in the world.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Yes to your parent household, well, if it's healthy, you
can be right, But that but that best case scenario.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
But that is the best situation for a child. The
second best is a single father. That's the second best
statistically statistically the seconds and fault and then the last
is like most gang bangers, whole criminals come from single
mother household.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
I think the problem with it is that dudes just
don't be uh there. Well, but but here's what.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
But the ones that are I can't attest because I
know you.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
So here' where the lack of ability, the lack of
accountability comes from. Right you have You can call a
dude a deadbeat all you want, right, but they just
chuck it up to oh, he wasn't physically there for
his child to financially there.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
There's so much.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
More to that though, because what if a dude is
willing to be there but she won't let and she
won't let him? Right, that's true, because let me say something,
I don't have a horse. Visitation and and child support
two different courts, so you can pay child support all
that child's life, right, But meanwhile, the mother could be
poisoning that kid against you, and you got to go

(49:50):
to visitation court, and then when you get there, the
kid don't even want to fuck with you because the
mother done told the kids so much about you that
that the kid don't even fuck with you.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Meanwhile, you're still paying child support.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Yeah, it can get so bad, to the point, I've
seen this happen too. It gets so bad on the
father's side with trying to even be there that he
will kind of give up, like fuck it, I'll just
wait till the little nigga get eighteen and he could see.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
I love this. This is what I'm talking about. That
that that happened to me. Like you're like, you know what,
you come back around when you're ready to do and
then what happens is they come back around and they
resent you, and then they say, oh, you were never
there for me, and they know that the mother kept
them away for.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
You, or they do this thing where you finally do
come to your father and because he's enforcing rules or
regulations or whatever, but you've been able to just be
this wild child with your mother. And then this father
has his all. He has a situation he's trying to
include you in, but now you are a threat to
that situation, and so he got to make the decision

(50:53):
to be like you can't be around this because all
of that.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yeah, all of that, like literally dealt with that shit.
And what I want to say to is, and I
know I know even white guys who dealt with this,
so this is not even a factor white thing.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Yeah, I just.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Want to stop and say I have both of my
parents and I don't have any baby mamas.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
So but I think the thing about it is people
break up, right, People break up. Women have to get
that out of their head to where it like like,
and I don't think it's ever going to happen, but
it's cool to say it. Accountability is at an all
time low, and the Internet lets you see that front
and center, right because women will blame their child's fucked

(51:36):
up ways on an absent father. It's like, bitch, but
you was there though, you are right there, Like what so,
so you mean to tell me her being a whole
or him being a gang banger or these people they're
being just horrible people with no morals that had nothing
to do with you. How did that have something to
do with somebody who's absent?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Right you? They act like.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
You can I just say too. I think people have
to get women specifically because I know I was raised
by a single mother for a lot of my years.
I did have a father's figure and I did have
male figures, but my mama and me and my brother
are good. We're good people. He's an amazing father despite
his father not being in his life. I feel like

(52:18):
I'm gonna be an amazing mother because I had one.
But I think that people have to get out of
the mindset of just thinking that it just means that
you were a bad person, because if we're being honest,
just like kind of how we were talking about when
I said, when we were younger, we didn't like our
parents weren't always there. When you have a single parent,
they gotta work, they gotta provide for you. So it's

(52:39):
not that your mama is like just being out here.
Are you as a single mother's out here being a
hole and you're not pouring again? But you can't physically
be in multiple places at once, So sometimes your kids
just end up getting into shit that you have no
idea about because you can't be there. But we know
that some of y'all would be there if y'all could.

(53:00):
Y'all got to provide. Y'all have to. There's still dreams
and aspirations you have as a woman that you don't
want to forget about, and you want to be able
to show that to your children, and in doing so,
that means that you also have to sacrifice being there presently.
So it's so.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Easy for kids to get right. But this is where
logic comes into play, right, because there are women who
will push that man away or push him to the
side because he don't have money. Let me tell you something.
We always kids at one time. You grew up with
your dad. I don't know what you're dead. My dad

(53:35):
wasn't there, right. I don't give a fuck about money
when it comes to my father. But like kids don't
care about money. It's like the mother be caring about it.
It's like there's some fathers because it's like a mother
won't have it because she'll lose a job or times
is hard.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
That man go through the same shit.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
So it's fucking wrong for women to push a man
away because he don't have money. If he has time,
allow that, I would have always I've seen that, like
like women be like and that happened to me before.
You know, I don't always have money, Like I wouldn't
have money. Oh you can't see a kid did what?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
That's crazy?

Speaker 5 (54:09):
That is I'm telling you that that's something that happens. Yeah,
And also like if you didn't play that child support.
But here's the thing with child support. I hate child suble.
Child support is a broke bitch sport.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Let me tell you why child support is mandated by
a court system that doesn't give a fuck about your family.
Bro I hate the child support the whole system, because
what it does is it's essentially playing daddy, like, hey,
this is the number we came up with based off
your income and the income he's not providing, and this
is what your kid is worth. And if you serve,

(54:39):
don't pay that, you're going to fuck in jail, right
or you're losing your license, your income tax, you're losing
everything behind it, regardless of who you are, will type
of guy you all, regardless what kind of uh uh
you had a job and you lost it, we don't care. Right,
you don't pay this money. Let me tell you something.
You can get a hardship license for murder, for d UI,

(55:00):
for being a drug dealer. Because they suspend your license
for all of those things, they'll give you a hardship license.
So you go back and forth to work child support,
which is not even criminal. You can't get a harship license.
You have to pay off the back amount before you
get your license back. So you start driving anyway because
you gotta get to work to pay the child support.
You get pulled over, you get arrested. Now you gotta

(55:24):
go to jail. Record and at the ment, No, not
a record, but it's because it's a civil thing. But
you can spend a maximum of six I know dudes
who did six months.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
In jail for the child support.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Granted, there are some guys who need a little push
from the courts, But how can you and that mother
get along if you put a.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Case on him.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yeah, if a bitch ever put me on a child
support all my kid, you'll put me. We never gonna
be cool. We could never be cool, and you gotta
open case on me.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Why we can never be friends? But no, some women
need all right.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
So there's some situations where like say, if she needs
Medicaid or food stamps or some additional assistance and you're
not physically live with her. If the father signed the
birth certificate, they'll put him on child support because in
order for her to receive the assistance, he gotta go
on child support. They saying it will help you out,
But yeah, this nigga got a beta ends or he

(56:20):
gotta pay for the medical insurance. So in those situations,
I get it. But also there's no expiration date for
the woman. How are you allowed to receive government assistance
for eighteen years? You get to you, bumm you you
don't never got to get your shit together? Why can't
you be a bum ass? Shake? This is the equal
sidic be living in it out right. How are you

(56:41):
allowed to be a fucking loser? But this nigga gotta
be some He gotta fly over the clouds and this
shit is crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Son, This nigga gotta get his life together.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
But you bitches, you want to be a bum son
like one of my baby mothers, a bum ass bitch.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
He was married to a bum ass nigga and all that.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Nigga. Give it up. Nigger Nigga was a bum ass nigger.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Bro, Nigga ain't saying I sort the nigga.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Nigga walking around with steel toe boots on a Sunday
nigga a whole handy man out here in these streets. Nigga.
I hate that nigga. I hate nigga a handy man. No, no, listen, listen, bugger,
I got nigga, I got six kids. The old stigger.
God is my kid? He don't even got no kids.

(57:25):
You got my kids living in a fucking trailer park, nigga. Crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Meanwhile, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Here getting money with six kids, nigga, and you can't
get your ship right. And then guess guess who get
the Guess who get to punch your bag? Though me,
I'm viewed as the bad guy when that nigga laying
right there next to you ain't doing ship.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
Get your baby daddy to do it this nigga.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
How is your baby mother showing up in court?

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Yo? Salute to one of my daughters, her me and
her father, her stepfather. Good dude, because I put myself
on child support, me and her mother's pit up. Put
myself on child only. I'm not even going through this ship.
Put myself on child support. I got a letter in
the mail, maybe like six months later saying the child
support was canceled, and I'm like, the fuck I didn't

(58:10):
cancel this ship. Me and him sit down, and so
he's like, listen, if you want to give money for
your kid, that's fine. But in my house, I take
care of my house. I don't we don't need your money.
And I was like, I got offended by it, but
I get it. My wife doesn't need to receive a
check from another man. If I take on the responsibility

(58:31):
of her, I take responsibility grant. He's a wido too,
he's a I've always respected him. We always got a
longer and my older my daughter grew up with two dads,
with two dads, because that's how a man operates. If
my baby, if I'm with you and you got a kid,
that's my responsibility too.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
If he wanted, I would hope, but I was gonna
ask about that.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
But the I feel this way about it, I think
is dead assrun And this is the one problem I
have with that ship. Don't ever, that's the mothers have
a problem. Some mothers have a problem protecting the dad
because a lot of mothers think cold parenting is letting
the man see the kid. That's not co parenting. Co
parenting is it's like.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Let's have a discussion about the school.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
The curriculum.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
That parenting is. We both got the best interest at heart.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
If they say you, uh, you're I was sung to
get a tattoo, and I'm like, he can't guess what
we we Nothing happened until we both could agree with them. Yeah,
under mind, like we always got to be at the
same page. Because let me tell you.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Something, unless that motherfucker is just not present, unless the
biological does not exist.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Different in this gigga sending chips, sport checkses not taking
care of your kids. It's not you physically got to
be present. You gotta have them with you. They got
to know who the fuck.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
You are, bro.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
And that's the crazy thing because some women who do
have their children's file on child support just want the money,
don't want to have don't want to allow them to
have any dictation or anything, but will still be like
you dad, you dad, bea dass.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Niggas, ladies, you are not a fucking single mother. If
you get a child support check, you know what you are.
You're a woman who's single that just have a kid.
You're getting help.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
I hate that, I genuinely getting help. Hate that when
I see women saying that they're a single parent, and
men too, but it's more women than not. I hate
when there when there is another active parent, but you're like,
I'm a single parent.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Because I'm a single woman.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
That's not the same.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah, you're not a single mother.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Like if me and Ryan have a baby right now,
we for some god forsaken reason, don't make it. That
doesn't make me a single mother. It does just make me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
If he like I hate.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
And then and then you got your kids, come after
you've grown talking about oh my mother's struggle. How the
fuck you know your mother's struggle. You was a kid,
she lies stupid, she was gut, she got struggling. I
have zero, But listen, how could a kid boom? You
got a kid? And then and then mother is allegedly struggling,

(01:01:12):
right but they are three when the ship is going on.
Then the mother gets older, I mean, the kid gets older.
And then mother tells him when I was, when I was,
I struggled with you. Your dadn't And they just believe,
as they're planning to she ain't struggle, but I got receipts.
And also I came from a two parent household.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
My mom struggled.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Yea, yeah, you could.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Struggle and household as a kid. Who did you care
or know of it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
We didn't know, No, we didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
I did know because my mom uh is uh, what's
the word for it. She's like, uh, she she let
people know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
She's a nagger.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
She's an constantly dad.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
She's like she constantly can play.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
This is why we don't have ship, This is why,
this is why we can't afford grocery this week because
this your dad and his money. And then like we're like,
we're four, Why why are we privy to these common But.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
That's the that's the the wild thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Why do we need to be involved?

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
The wild thing to me is growing up as an
adult and not and not being able to realize, Like
you know, when we was children and your mama would
be like, we ain't got no money for that, or
I'm broke. That don't mean they don't have no fucking money.
It's just like I got money to pay the bills
and do the essentials.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
That's and I just don't want to borrow whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
I As an.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Adult, I'm like, there are times when I'm like, I'm broke,
but I really got money in the account. It's just
like I can't justify doing that right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Our parents did.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
That's not broke.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
My parents did that to me my whole life, Even
as an adult.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
When I moved out of my crib, I was like, yo.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
A fucking liar, Like you no, they would not get
me ship, and I was like, yo, my parents we
were middle class, but like, they don't really got it
like that. They have kind of just enough to pay
the bills that they had, Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
That.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
Let me tell you, they redid the whole kitchen, marble,
marble tops, hardwood floors.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
It's a five bedroom, four bathroom house.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
First of all, they were furbished.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Having a five.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Bedroom is crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
Five bedroom, four bathroom project, yo, two story mansion.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Both of my sisters are married.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
They both wanted their own families, so it was I
never left my part my parents' crib because it was
just me, my mom, and dad in a huge ass mansion.
And they all are downstairs, and I have the whole
upstairs to myself. There's a game room, there's multiple bathrooms,
there's shit up there. But I was the type of kid,
even at fifteen, I was oblivious to all of this shit.

(01:03:35):
I was like, yo, I can't ask my parents for
money for a car. They don't got it like that.
I don't want to be a burden. So I went
out and got a job. I bought my own car.
I bought my own shit. Like, both of my sisters
had eighteen birthday parties. Extravagant, like they rented out a
hotel and shit, I didn't do that. I was like, yeah,
I can't be Also, your family, your family, it's from
the Islands. Yeah, did they grow up poor in Islands?

(01:03:57):
I want parents poor.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
No, I think that they grew up like semi middle class.
I think they a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
But here's what I notice about older generations, right, my
maid feel like, I mean, the name of the game
is to become a better parent than your parents. Work right,
break whatever fucking generation new curses.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Well, my grandma was a single, single parent.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Right, so you want to like there's certain ship like
my family say, oh, you're a bougie. It's like, and
that's the thing with with with the hood black people, right,
because you want better your boogie's Like, I'm bougie because
I want to stay in a hotel instead of staying
your hot ass crib. I don't want to sleep on
a fucking air mattress. I'm sorry, I got it. First
of all, I can't afford it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Yeah I can.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
First of all, I don't want to inconvence you. There's
enough people in your house. Also, it's my fucking vacation.
I want the luxury. I't want to have a coil
breakfast when I wake up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
It doesn't mean I think I'm better than anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
It's like, that's just my that's just my lanth And honestly, respectfully,
my children don't need to see my struggle. They don't
even need to hear about it. It's none of their
fucking business.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I saw you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
My flex is my kids are from the suburbs and
I'm from the hood. That's a flex and a half.
My kids don't need to tell my story. That ain't
They don't know. My kids was nerved nigga in New York.
They was grabbing my leg and my arm on the train,
so they ain't never seen no ship.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
Like the irony is when they get to like teenage
years or if they're there already, they're gonna they're gonna
freak fake the front they gonna have.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
They were gonna pretend because you're from New York, that
they're from New York, and we ain't doing that. T
I King should be a nerd nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
That's the only way that you get get nerd. You
get street credit when you but that's the thing, you
will never even need street credit because you live in
the suburbs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
The thing is they're still gonna test you any like
kids just test kids in general. So if you go
and you could play that cool New York ship right right,
you're already cool by that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
But that's a New York nigga who can't fight, and
he's insecure and he's broke. My son comes from a
place of money, and my son knows jiu jitsu, so
he'll fuck and he's good looking. So it's like, bro,
like it was just fuck your girl, Like, oh, he's
a Jaden Smith ast niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Yeah, see Jada, they didn't never try to be tough.
Now it's not see I don't get I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Understand like ti son like trying to be a gangster.
I'm not a rapper, bro, I'm a comedian, so my
son can just be a comedian. And I tell him that,
Like my son does it now, Like he gets into
little he's six years old, but he gets the little
altercations and he'll get in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Trouble for bullying.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
We don't do the bullying thing, bro, But you can
definitely fuck somebody up if they put their hands on you.
You will never get punished for that. I'm not to
turn together. I tell you I'm Martin. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
I mean, I'm Halcolme.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
I'm not Martin.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Bro Me and my mom were just talking about that
last week, how she was very much so like somebody
touch you and you don't want they asked back or
to hit them back, you getting your ass beat. So
when I would get in fights at school, I'd be like,
well my mama said, and they would come.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
That's also toxic. That's that's a common thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I don't like that either. No, no, no, no, because you
got to know who your kid is, because I know
that Brooklyn is not a fighter, and I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Like, like, I don't like. I don't like my daughter's fighting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
My daughters are pretty, like come get me or get
your brother, like or pay somebody like, don't fight, no lot.
I don't want my daughters fighting anybody that't you pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
For that ship, I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Like. That's that's why I hate World Star. But my mama,
black girls fighting, I hate that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
I used to because at first I went to predominantly
white schools. When I started going to predominantly black schools,
it was culture shock, but also that that their old
tale of the new girl coming into school. She she
might be cute or whatever. They they used to fuck

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with me and I didn't like to fight. I didn't
like to fight, so I wouldn't defend myself. So my
parents kind of had to be like, girl, what you're
not gonna do is just let somebody hit you, right,
what they asked.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
You never seen the movie what's that movie with with
with childa buff and they're like bootleggers. It's him and
uh lost in the movie Locked up that movie?

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Remember when they were little and shy just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Wouldn't he wouldn't kill the goat. Yeah, they showed him
his kids and they growing up. He's getting beat up
and he's like, yo, nigga, we vander bombs. Like, how
you let somebody do that to you? Like you fucking
up my family name? That's toxic. It's like what if
your son, nigga. That's how school shooters and suicide victims
are created. You gotta be like And that's the thing
like our parents of before and grandparents, they tried to

(01:08:24):
like form you in their image. Like when people like
oh my mama grew up in the church, Well, bitch,
I'm not going to church because that ship is bullshit.
You didn't even read That's why I tell religious people
like did did you even read the Bible? Like did
you even ask yourself? Like did a nigga really light
a bush on fire? Nigga? Like was there really did
a nigga really bought the part? A nigga really bought

(01:08:45):
the season with the staff? Did that really happen? That
shit sound crazy? You never questioned your religion because somebody
said they use fear Margarine, like, oh, if you don't
believe that you're going to Hell and when you instill
that in the child, they don't challenge it. They're challenge
Santa Claus, or they'll challenge the Easter Bunny and ship
or the two fairy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
They ain't challenging Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
They never even questioned it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
I was, I challenged it, and I'm like, nigga, you
mean like, okay, so we have gay aunts, but in
the Bible it clearly says that if you're gay, you
want to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Hell and we love her. It doesn't say that knowing no, no, yeah,
I know a You'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Yeah sodom gom morey they birn Yeah yeah it was yeah,
and sold them. They burnt the ship down because people
were they were they were gay.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Or don't mess with don't mess with little boys, don't
mess a little boys because you end upregnant. But then
it's like, oh, okay, so Mary was no boy and
she ended up pregnant.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Like that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
And then I grew up and started like researching is
like immaculate conception doesn't mean she wasn't fucking right, It
just means immaculate by definition means clean. Like it don't
mean clean, but you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Bro, all that listen, I don't I think the Bible
is a complete fictional books.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
What we've got to do, We're about to shot on
my religion, right, we.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Can do that. We can do that because I'm well
in theology.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
I'm a super spiritual. Here's my thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
In order to be a religious person, you have to
go against everything.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
You have to be. You have to be close minded.
It's a must because for you to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Claim allegiance to a certain religions, if you say, oh, yeah,
all of them, right, And but I see beauty in Islam,
I see beauty, and Buddhism, I see beauty in Christianity.
I see beauty and in dialism. I see beauty in
that ship, like you mean to tell me, Because these
fucking monks who live into bet who worship a statue
which is an idol. These niggas don't even kill fives, nigga.

(01:10:42):
They don't kill shit, They don't hurt they don't believe
in killing anything. They're the most peaceful people in the world.
They've never hurt anything. Meanwhile, Catholicism, which is which is
a denomination of Christianity, whether people admit it or not.
They read the Bible, bro, you mean to tell me
these motherfuckers they smoked cigarettes, drink fuck little boys. They

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ship better than that ship. And because they say Jesus, like,
come on, son, now it's cat and and I have
the biggest problem with black people being religious because black
people usually, well we know why how we even got
that book in the first place, slavery, right, That's one
I understand why black people were so religious back then.

(01:11:24):
It was a very horrible time. And that ship at
least gave me you got it, gave you hope and death.
There's no rewards in religion during Nigga. I'm like, wait
a minute, wait a minute, I gotta die like I.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Got to sit here and eat, I go and get
like goddamn gold plated streets.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Yeah, God give his toughest battles to a strongest soldiers.
Fuck all that, nigga. I want that bread now. I
don't want to die, son. I want to be a millionaire,
living bro. I don't want to hope. There's a heaven
and I guess pussy when I get there. Nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
The Bible talks about there being promises in this life.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
And I like, listen, man, But let's say when white people,
I know, when white people go through some ship, they
go to the band.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I could go to church, Nigga, that shit don't work.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Son, and then nobody ever thinks that shit don't work. Work, Pray, pray.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
I prefer a relationship with God, which means I could
talk to this mother. I got him on speed that
I could talk to this motherfucker. I don't gotta change
nothing about myself. I believe in being a good person.
I believe when I park, when I pull up to
the stop sign and there's a bum there and I'm
down to my last twenty give give it to him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
I don't need it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
I'll get it back. I believe in that. I believe
in in karma. I believe in not pulling out my
fucking phone when I'm doing ship like that. I believe
in when if somebody called me and I got it,
you got it. You know what I'm saying. I believe
in being a good father, a good friend, a good
family member. I believe in other people the truth. So
if I could be a vessel for that, I think
I'm fine. If there's I don't think I need to

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be tied to the fucking book, which.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
Is my thing has always been having to go through
someone to get to God, who all knowing and all encompassing,
because it's like, so I got to praise the preacher,
like as long as I'm over there paying this man,
and I used to, and when I first moved here,
I was very, Oh my god, that's gonna be another
story for another time, y'all. But I was just reminiscing

(01:13:32):
or remembering my life back in twenty twelve and how
how much of a devout Christian I was, and the
and the quote unquote spiritual warfare that I was going through.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Black black Jesus holding me is a baby, That's what
it's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
But all of the stuff that I was doing at
the time and still having people like turn on me
and like call me a devil, and I'm like, I'm
the most devout person over here, Like I'm going to
church every day. I really believe this, Like at the time,
I didn't, you know how It's like, oh, yoga is
a sin or when they say witchcraft, there was nothing

(01:14:12):
good or bad about it, Like there was no nothing.
I was like, and somebody is really telling me that
I am a sexually transmitted demon. Is wild to me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
You know how many fucking church girls I bust? They
ass Nigga. Bust they ass nigga Like after church, Nigga,
I fucked in church before Nigga respected it. That asked
my church think we used to have this ship called devotion,
that teen devotion Nigga. Yeah, that's wild, disrespectful to a whole,
it's a building. It's because they said holy Yeah, nigga,

(01:14:44):
first of all, the holy ghosts cat Nigga, that whole.
That ship is a dance contest, Nigga. I never believe that,
you know, think it's a dance contest. How you how
you got? How you got?

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
I was on cue.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
I can't believe y'all got speaking speaking it speaking in
I can't I had speaking in tongues that cap.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
I will say this, I do not believe the essence
of the Holy ghosts and are speaking in tongues is
cap But I do believe that there are people who
operate in that in capness. Like I used to go
to a church and they would try to teach you
how to speak in tongues, and for me, that's nothing

(01:15:26):
that can be taught. So they would be like, so
to speak in tongues, you just go no, no, no, no no.
I believe. I believe, I believe. I genuinely believe in spirituality.
So I think that speaking in tongues, are speaking in
a higher language is a true thing. But it's it's

(01:15:46):
not something that can be taught. It's something that just
overtakes you. I believe in that. So I don't think
that is cap. I just think that majority of people,
there's a lot of people who are capping it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
If there's a higher power who sits on the clouds
above us, this knowledge of it, this understanding it of it, it
wouldn't be that it would have believe it. I believe
in divine intervention, like I believe it because there's ship
that's happened in my life that was too Like I
give you an example when I was sixteen years old.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Now I should be a dancer, right, so you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
On on Gates in Marsie and Brooklyn, we had a
dance battle and I'm killing these niggas and they blood
they gang member, these can't dance.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
What kind of dances was he doing? Reggae? Like we dancing?
We're doing we brucking up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
We're battling, Okay, we bat I'm battling. I think I'm
a ballet of the hood. I don't know what we
break dancing. We battling in a street in a black party.
So the niggas got mad because they was losing. And
then I heard a shot ring off and I grabbed
my head because I felt a wind go by my
head and I grabbed my head and I laying the
floor and everybody's no, the shallow and screaming for fun.

(01:16:56):
And I looked to the side, bro the brim of
my hat was blown off. Wow, but I was good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
I have my hat on.

Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
Forward with them, So they tried to shoot you, but
they missed. It's like the bullet with how do you blow?

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
It was a whole clean It was a cold clean
through my brim of my bullet.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I mean through the brim of my hat. But were
they actually shooting at you or you just caught a straight.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
No, they were shooting him. They were shooting that. They
were just shooting like they was mac he was whooping.
They ass in a battle. Yeah, I mean that was
the reason. But of course they're not gonna say that's
the reason. His nigga was acting tough. He was looking
at us. It'd be dumb ship that niggas want to
act because you can't tell the real reason because you
look stupid. You shot this nigga because he fucking out
danced you. You fucking whole ass nigga. But these blood

(01:17:39):
dirty niggas back in the ninety in the nineties, they
was looking. They was always looking for a fight with somebody.
That's what it was all about. Like in order to
get initiated in the bloods, at least in my neighborhood
growing up, you had to cut somebody's face. Damn, not
even another gang member, a school teacher. Like it was
dumb shiit.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
When that ship first came to New York, it was nasty.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Son.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
I'll be mad if somebody just randomly cut my face.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
Bro, swivel all the time because I just be like,
you don't know what.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
That's why I always have a fucking gun on for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
That's why I grew up in the suburbs.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
But I'll be listening to that should be happening in
the suburbs, and maybe you say.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
You want to I don't live in the suburbs no more.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
It was a nigga in the hood that was doing
awward to people and they no between two cars and
all that in the hood. Yeah, y'all, y'all heard about
old boy who was busted on chicks out of dollar. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
I heard even wilder story yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
You know XXX and so you know his killer is
doing life in prison. Bro. They raped them, son, and
play was playing xxxas on music in the background, raping them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
I say, you know, I.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
Mean, karma is karma. Karma, don't care how it comes.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Yeah, I don't know if that's karma.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
I don't No, no, no, no, no, no no no. They
won They just like all right, yeah but yeah, no.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
But that could be. I feel like there are certain
things that can be is still a bad person, yeah,
but it's just it's happened. Where's the karma? They getting karma?
I think you get karma in so many different ways.
Like when I was in y'all, this is when I
first realized that karma like are in my head, that

(01:19:29):
karma was a thing. So when I was in high school,
I'm gonna say what grade I was in, but I
had about of being like a klepto. Kleptos when you
just steal so in the locker, yes, in the locker
room during pe. It was like three times I did
this within like two weeks. I jacked some bitches lunch money.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Right, it's in the lockers.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
And and it was people that I was like cool with,
not cool with, like no, no, no, no, not cool with
like friends.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
It's a wild confession right now.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
No no, no, it wasn't friends, but it was like like
your acquaintances. No, because we're talking about karma. We're talking
about karma. So that happened three times in like a
two week span. When you got dollars and it would
be like ten dollars year, twenty dollars a.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Year times three because it's three different girls.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Yeah maybe, like let's just say girls funny. But the
thing is they would have never suspected me, right, So
mind you, mind you. I'm not that friend, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
You got it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
I'm not that friend.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
That I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
I never did it again because listen, literally literally, I'll
let me tell the fucking story. So literally, I was
minding my fucking business one day, had never knew. I
didn't know these girls, but somebody was like, I had
just came back from suspension for like being a smart
ass to the teacher or whatever. So somebody comes up

(01:21:03):
to me randomly and was like can they said so
and so been saying you've been talking ship about them
and they want to fight you. I didn't know who
the fuck so and so was because they were new
bitches at school. I didn't know who they were. I
ended up getting jumped by these three bitches like two
days after the last time I stole somebody, and I

(01:21:25):
was like, I never had this issue before. I'm not
taking a coincidence. It's just karma. I feel like karma
is good. Like my favorite saying is you are free
to choose, but you're not free from the consequences of

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your choices. And I feel like sometimes when you could
just place yourself in situations that are not like where
you're not doing or not being the best person, and
the worst ship can happen to you. And I feel
like that's what goes up must come down. So you
fuck up somebody else's day, ask questions, you suck up somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Else's particular, but it will not be the same thing.
Don't have to just the same energy, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
So by that same logic, do you think that being
a klepto and stealing your friends money is the same
as uh, using the self checkout at Walmart?

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
And not really?

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
No, that's I don't believe that's different, but you could.
I think that you could still get karma. A karma
I live.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
I lived my years, a lot of my years being
a scam artist. I'm from the old school of it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
I wasn't like, you're not a Nigerian prince, you know,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
I don't come from the era of the swipers. I'm
we hands on like back we we used to no no, no, no never,
Okay No. I was identity I did, I did, I
did identity.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Theft Okay, but no, no, no, because that would be karma.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
No, it could be karmea, it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Could be other ways. Right, So I had a though.
Right they had to be white, and if I'm using
their information, it could never be a debit card because
I feel like this is my logic. If I take
your debit card, that's me taking your money. That's your

(01:23:16):
money that you work for. But your credit card, Yeah,
it's not your money. It's not your money. It's not
your money. You're gonna call that ain't yours. If you
got a credit card, it's not your money, your man,
it's the bank's money.

Speaker 5 (01:23:30):
But don't you still got to pay it back regardless
what if you use it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
If you called the bank like yo, somebody using my ship,
they're gonna immediately give it back. So I didn't rob
the you. I robbed the bank. I was a I
was listening. I was a I was generous. I was
I was a conscious thieve.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Son, I hate niggas justification.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Am I not robbing the bank?

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
You got it, bro, I'm robbing a corporation. I'm not
robbing you. Everybody thinks it's okay if you robbing a corporation, nigga.
If I take your debit card.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
Robbing is robbing, and it's wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
But but I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Fine with you robbing. I don't have a problem. But yo,
it'stop being this rob.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Rob rob if you're rob No, no, no, but I'm
not taking.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
I always about morals.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Yeah, I hate.

Speaker 5 (01:24:17):
I hate a fake ass moral I hate a moral
compass code of ethics ass nigga like.

Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
Ship ye like, I'm a murderer, but I don't murder people.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
You know, I only murder on nights and weekends.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
I would never murder somebody on Monday. Yeah, like that.
It is crazy to me.

Speaker 5 (01:24:38):
I would, you know, I rate, but I would never
rape a virgin because that's their first time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
But they need. It's a huge difference between robbing a
corporation and robbing a person.

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
I understand. But everything I don't look. I never I
never found by law. No, it's it's not morally it's
not morally wrong. I don't care about the morals.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
Care about karma is not Karma is not going to
differentiate between you robbing of corporate right because.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
You were dishonest about the karma neither, Because all you're
saying no, no, you're being dishonest. You care about the consequences,
that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
The nothing that you care about it we say they exists.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Yeah exists. I'm saying, so you know that you're gonna
get a consequence no matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
But yo, I hate this, Like morally gray area.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
Either be a good person or don't care about being
a good person.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
Being a good person and not being a good person.
It's subjective because the levels to things.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Because we say something, there's a difference between a person who.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Come like, for instance, I got a friend who grew
up with his mommy and daddy, big house, like you
grow But then I thought I was talking about the
nigga was a fucking drug dealer. Yeah you dickhead like,
but also I hustled and did things. But look where
I came from.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Though, you have a justification for your ship's all you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
You know what I'm saying is he's a super bad
person because nigga, you don't got to do that, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:25:59):
Like, but just saying to be because it's kind of
like a sin. There's not a sin that's actually worse
than another.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
There's always a reason to kill him, you know what
I hate.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Yeah, it's not always a reason. Okay, watch this, so
the person at randomly just is that you're at Walmart
shopping and somebody comes up and just fucking shoots and kills.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
No no, I said, there's always a reason to kill.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
But they had a reason even though we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
There's always no No.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
I'll add words, there's always it's good reasons to go people,
good reasons because somebody's out there hurting kids.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
He needs to die, bro, And I'm praising the person
to take him out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Yeah, I don't have an argument.

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
He needs and deserves to die. My argument is just
stop calling yourself a good person. I can't stand people
who call themselves a good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Okay, okay, here's we're not a good person. You'd shot? No,
watch this? Can you kill somebody? Here's what make sure
a good person?

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Right one?

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Self awareness, accountability.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
And and and I'm not gonna say repentance because that's
that's that's religious.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
I'm gonna say, what's the word when you?

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
When you, when you, when you, when you repay it?
S with are like say saying somebody not reparations, restitution, restitution,
that matters. That makes you a good person because if
you go because everybody does bad ship, right, but if
you're aware.

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
Of it, I know I'm not a good person. No, no,
you no good I'm a bad person.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Good people do bad things.

Speaker 5 (01:27:35):
Because I don't think I'm a good person or a
bad person. I think I'm a neutral person. I think
everybody is just a.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Neutral we all have I'm not gonna I can't call
the mother or the father who who lost the job
and they trying to get the trying to make it,
and they stealing, and they steal something I can't. That's
not a bad person. That's survival. Doesn't make you a
bad person because you did a bad thing. So you
can justify on almost any crime with somebody did something

(01:28:04):
for a reason. Sometimes there's actionless crimes, like people just
do things for no rhyme or reason. But for the
most part, everybody UH is dealing with.

Speaker 5 (01:28:13):
Some type of past trauma. Something has affected them down
the road. Somebody didn't love them or give them enough affection,
so they're doing things to cope with They're coping with
the hardships. Life is hard. So if we all give
everybody the past that you're giving to the father or
the mother who couldn't afford to feed. You're justifying criminal.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
I understand. I think it's understand. I understand what I said.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
I'm not justifying the act because what makes them a
good person is what they do afterwards. You can spend
the block and like, yo, that's fun. They you gotta
make restitution. You can do things to fix, or you
can just fucking change, or you could just get a
good person from jump.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
So let me ask you a question. You know children,
you have to children. Are someone close to you, right? Like,
let's say someone, God forbid, someone comes in and just
brutalizes a person that you love, sure, and you felt
helpless because you weren't there, and you react to that
in whatever manner? Are you a bad person because you

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did that?

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Kind of stop it, bro?

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
How are you a bad person?

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
I think you're a bad person because you're operating off
of a state of you're a.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Good person who did something bad. It's not my job, person,
It's not my job.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
It's a it's not my job to be the jury
and executioner or whatever for somebody else's crimes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
It's not my job. I understand. I understand when bad.

Speaker 5 (01:29:45):
Things happen around you that you have an instinct to
get revenge or to justify this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
But okay, at the end of the day, I don't
have to make it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Let's make another Let's make another one.

Speaker 5 (01:29:56):
But I'm okay with what y'all are saying. If that's
what you need to do to cope. All I'm saying is,
don't call yourself a good or not.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Okay, Okay, in the midst okay, watch this though, some
dude runs up on you and he's choking you to death,
and you got a knife. You take your knife and
you stab him in the head and kill him. Are
you a bad person? What I'm saying it's not. I'm

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defending myself, but I don't really.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Have a that's bad. You just murdered somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
I'm because they have murder.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
I took a life. You shouldn't let HI kill you.

Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
No, no, no, no, I don't have an opinion about it.
I don't think that's a good or a bad thing.
I just think that you just defended yourself. But I'm
not gonna walk away going, hey, I'm a.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Good person, but that you wouldn't think.

Speaker 5 (01:30:47):
That I wasn't a good person when he started choking me. Okay,
when he came up and started choking me. I had
a random bitch on my crib yesterday and kicked her
out of my crib.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
That was what does that have to do with this?

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
And the person coming.

Speaker 5 (01:31:00):
Has anything to do with anybody else. When people do
things to me and I'm experiencing life, that doesn't change
me being a good or a bad person, I gotta okay,
I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
It doesn't make me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Crop that motherfucker if it was there that it was
a limp.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
It was a limp bogo it was it was a
limp boger.

Speaker 5 (01:31:20):
I feel like I do cocaine sometimes now because I
like yo the nose hairs that I'm having there growing
and they'd be itchy and I'd be constantly.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
You got your nose waxed?

Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
I have don't never do it because is that crazy? No,
it is uncomfortable and actually need I agree that we.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Need some notes. Would think from a bacteria and other
shnig like I did that ship, bro, and that ship
had me breathing and all types of ship I felt everything.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
Yeah, we didn't go, but none of the mother That's fine,
that's fine. But we had a really great conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
But I want to go at least one.

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
Uh, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
I got fifteen, we got, we got, let's do one.
So these type of black people annoy me. That's not
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
These type of black people living ones.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
He stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
But I've been in Listen, I've been at war, not war.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Because that's cap. I actually actually got more people agree
with it disagree with me. I can't stand people who
won't admit that Tyler Perry is a piece of ship.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Oh, it's like, bro, that come on, It's like, all right,
he knows he knows his audience, right, he knows his audience,
and that's fine. Most of them are overweight black church women, respectfully,
and gay men. But his narrative is order is saying,
let's make black people look as bad and pathetic as possible,
especially women. He makes women look fucking black women look pathetic.

(01:32:55):
He makes black men look abusive. He don't have no
movies where the subject is not some fucked up individual.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:33:03):
Yeah, realistic black dude with his own movie studios. And
then he's he's employing black people every day and putting
people on So he's a good person.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
He's he's a good person.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
He's uh, he's you know what, you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
You know? You know what else does that?

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Did?

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
He?

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Yeah, he's a good person exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Like he does a lot of he does some shitty things.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
I don't think. I don't think Tyler Perry is a
bad person.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
He's just a shitty person for black people. He's a
shitty person.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
So he's just bad at what he does. He's a
bad director, a bad movie writer. If that was the case,
then he wouldn't have the billions. No, yes, it is
because he has that crowd who came Alright, it's like this,
every simple nigga you see online, whether it's Derek Jackson,
Chris GQ, the as metaphor, they got millions of followers. Bro,
they're lying to women. Though they're lying, they're telling their truth,

(01:33:59):
they're ain't there. They're profiting off women's pain. I like
Diary of a Mad Black Woman. That's if you like it,
doesn't make it good movies.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
I think the thing I think the thing with Tyler
Perry that makes it feel as bad as because what
if that is a truth for our culture, we just
don't like seeing it. But also, I think what's really difficult,
especially if you are like a movie buffer. You really
do like stories being cohesive. He's not great whatsoever with

(01:34:33):
character development.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
I agree with you all like that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:36):
Ship just don't so it's like you just got some
wild ship going on and there's no rhymes, right, And then.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
You have you have great black movie directors who don't
get there, just do who makes amazing what you got
Spike Lee, Ryan Coogler, fucking Black Panther, You got Rest
in Peace? John Singleton, Like, these guys are the guy
that made Who's the Black Person?

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
And that made a rope? Uh no, no, no, no, no,
the hearter they fall, Spike Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Fall. The Wild Wild West.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
Movie was.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
Somebody else. I can't think of his name.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Shonda rhymes.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Also, we got him not uh not not Jordan Peele.

Speaker 5 (01:35:27):
Jordan Peel's about the women. We got the women to
U there's also the girl who the woman?

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
Yep, so I mean, but they put him at the
forefront of Oh he's the No, he's not.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
They don't put he fucking sucks bros. All independent.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
He doesn't that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
I think that's the thing because he he has seemingly
been not seemingly ship. The proof is in the goddamn pudding.
He just sucks his storytelling sometimes sometimes No, have you
ever s like lately though, have you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Ever seen Tyler Perry's The Temptation?

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Well, sure he got aids at the end the movie
be good. Just take a shot black. Why do you
have to give the age though a book at.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
He had listen, he had a he had.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
It's always like it's always like he pinks the pictures like, Bro,
come on, it was one.

Speaker 4 (01:36:24):
But that that Temptation ship is some ship that would really.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Gate age though. Bro, you have got elected.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
You gotta lect you you have listen.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
The nigga had one story where Shurety first of all,
husband was wild abuse. Then the nigga threw both kids
out the windows, all four colored girls. Bro, that was
what nigga is throwing his kids out the way. I
don't care what nobody, no black man history, he grew

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up in a household. No black man in history, no.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Active black father there has thrown his children.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
Out the window.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
Well, he wasn't an active black he was.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
He lived there. He was he just lived there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
He was active. That nigga just was there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Tyler Perry he had because he came up right.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
So he was just there and he was a fixture
because he couldn't operate because he had PTSD.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
That was crazy, son. You know what's crazy. Michael Ealy
is the dude in that movie and think like a man.
Somebody's like, yo, I'm about to go. I rented four
colored girls for me and my mom to watch.

Speaker 5 (01:37:25):
It was like some crazy nigga with some light skinned
nigga threw his kids out the window. Hey ruined it
for you keep it moving? And he was talking about
himself in the movie. It was a It was like
a fourth wall break. Yeah, I watched the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
Was that think like a man? That's funny. Every time
I watched it, I was like, yo, nigga, this is
like something behind. That's like, yo, some light skinned nigga
with light eyes threw his kids out the window. Sorry,
movie rude? Can we go now? It was hilarious. That
is funny as fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Yeah, wait, let's get These are the type of black
people hate, right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
I hate this hotel, these hotep niggas with these with
these with these inner workings and thoughts of America.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
But they have the information right, they have it right there.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
Not didn't like why did I get married?

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Sorry? That's not a Tyler Herd movie. That is a type.

Speaker 5 (01:38:17):
That's Tyler Perry's Why did I get married? They had
Jill Scott looking fat and see.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
Okay, The unrealistic part for me on that was the
black sheriff in the Mountains.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
He's some punk just willing to date some fat bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
It's a movie. Just what just was.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Honky hunky? First of all, not.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Definitely first super like.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
Like like what what what?

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
What? What? What really would have happened was she would
have just got dumped and played.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
She would have lost weight, He would have sucked there.

Speaker 5 (01:38:49):
There are some of those niggas that are being there
and they did be trying to wouldn't been it wouldn't
have been no.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Black he wouldn't have been in the Mountains man.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Unrealistic like and then he wands up.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Now, granted, I think Jill Scott for a big I
fucking love me some Jill Scott bro.

Speaker 5 (01:39:06):
Somebody showed me a music video of Jill Scott in
the back of her hair was completely fucked up and
I can't undersee the music video now she had a
fro and it'sn't a popular song. I can't remember which
one it is, but the whole way you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
Me bag, show my food and some ship. That's what
she said, wise food wo. I love Jilly for Philly
though when she was out sucking dick at stage, Jill
Scott has the best smile I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Anyway, Let's get into these whole tep dumb niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
It's always some dumb nigga that went to jail and
they always got the goods and they jump on these
podcasts or incident and they say stupid ship like this, son,
hate these niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
Bro, Oh, here we go, God damn it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
Oh dream, That's when I mighta go to songs to sing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
I know you've seen that grace to see that ship
every week.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Away. He's talking about some grit.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
Got my case. I made some scrambled eggs and some
bacon with some homemade biscuits. I don't even like biscuits.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
Don't tell me the shit ain't got no motherfuckingf You
ain't do what you need no audio? Come on, son,
come on, son, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
He looked like his mouth smelled like mothballs.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
I gotta find I really want you to hear this
ship yein Yemen and one I'm gonna find that show
on Give me one second, jog, give me one second.
Whole tap. Niggas talking stupid shit online. I know they
got that shit on YouTube. Okay, okay, shit, what was fake? No,

(01:41:10):
it's on YouTube. Here we go, Here we go. You
gotta be in the short too.

Speaker 4 (01:41:18):
Somebody said to my story Green Eye Band, it can't
stand it. It's diabolical. M Like, is it a compliment?
And it is at the same.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
Time, just talking about this trial that just happened.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
Of course, okay, when the jury, when the jury got
picked out, the jury got picked out.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
When it's like I watched every second of that ship when.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
They was going.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
They was, you know, telling people that you can't be
on the jewelry said he going.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
To give you no money ship. I ain't talking about that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
Black people they hate.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
I've seen a picture, yo, you had a picture.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
Of your already here we there, we go, Here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
It's a it's a con we're talking about the majority
of people. How good all of these because this is
a white man's country, this is their country. We're visiting
people gotta understand.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Oh did I just do that?

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
I'm sorry, and I don't and I.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Don't win, and I don't because I said it was win.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
You wanta fight, right, Yo? Yo, you know why?

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
You know why I said for I'm gonna tell you why.
Because this is a white man every country. This is
their country. We're visiting people gotta understand.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
No, you got it wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
That's why the white man know the fuck. They didn't contident,
they didn't bought it. No, no Europe, Listen, there was
all that slavery ship, All that slavery ship that you
that we was all brought up on is fake. On
slavery was fake, that slavery ship that he came from

(01:43:00):
somewhere else. And they want us here, that's to make
us forget we was already here.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
It's a it's a con. We're talking about the majority
of people. Yeah, I know that there's black people in
America that that think that there was no state, there
was no stave short I'd argue my bobbed the other
day and he's like, Yo, so what happens to old
slave ships? I'm like, well, either they were destroyed or
they got You think they took him out the ocean

(01:43:28):
and put them in a museum.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
Nigga, what do you think happen all the ships at
the time, it was made of a wooden nigga. It
was a wooden ship. You know what salt doesn't to yo?

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
If if you can't show me the ships that I
can't believe it. Where's Captain's cook captain cook ship? Where's
the armoside at the Yeah? I wanted where are the
slaves at? If we was really slaves? How could they
ain't no slaves around? I'm telling you there is a
shipload of black people who we have in these logical
like these discussions and really believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
I don't know if you have a smart niggas out here.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
So is highly bro so articulate, bro like but highly
educated brother, but that the narcissism in his brain that
exists is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
It's beyond me because two things.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Could be true.

Speaker 5 (01:44:19):
I think if you're a narciss if you're highly intelligent,
you probably are a narcissist. Yeah, yeah, doctor Umar, he's
a he's a self righteous egotist. But I think it
is also a smart nigga who's onto a lot of ship.
I think that he knows that he has a fan
base and he has any capitalized certain gotta be salacious.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
And where the school at? Though every time I bring
him up, I say where to school? I had a
whole like from that, like the frow and didn't he
have you blocked or some ship he got me blocked?
I had a three year run while bomb on him
and at the end of everybody elseaid what school?

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
He he blocked me?

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Eventually, if the.

Speaker 4 (01:44:55):
Slave trade was made up, is it not still possible?
Because when there's like acts of war and someone conquered something,
don't they take prisoners of war.

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
And they made them do that?

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
There were black people here.

Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
Yeah, So I'm saying, like if somebody takes over or
when they was taken over other fucking places where they
not indenteran's servants.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Because of nobody Because.

Speaker 4 (01:45:22):
So no, I'm saying his I'm saying his argument or
whoever was saying that doesn't make fucking sense because we
could have been here. But there's if somebody conquered or land.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
Me and my barber had this a whole argument. I
stopped mid augument. Are you just doing this to fuck
with me? Or like there's real wave this?

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
He said there was never a slave trade.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
Black people were here the whole time, and all of
us are descendants of these black people. We were the
real Native Americans, Like Native Americans aren't even real.

Speaker 5 (01:45:52):
Like to be honest, I obviously don't believe that. Obviously
I don't believe that. But if you are stopping, think
everything that you know about life is because somebody, we
don't know nothing. So for you to be like, oh,
this is a dumb nigga, it's kind of crazy because
like everything that we believe, every logic that we know,

(01:46:14):
is because we trusted somebody else wiser than us, or
we read a book or we saw it, or you
can just look at where black people are and realize
that we're not the majority here.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
So huh. So I don't mean shit, okay, but but
for this, for this subject's sake.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
That's cap.

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
I think that's the dumbest ship in the world. But
I'm just saying I don't I know what you're saying,
but I don't put it past it. I don't call
nobody stupid because I'm like, that's how I feel about Christianity,
about religion in general, Like, yo, if you don't know this,
you're dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
You're going to hell. It's like, if you only know
what you you believe in your closed mind, and that's cool,
that's your.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Faith, right, But we all have faith. You have faith
in all the.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
Knowledge that you have.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
You don't know none of that shit. But also I'm
aware enough to not spew ship that sounds insane. And two,
I like, for instance, when motherfucker's during the whole COVID
thing right where people were jumping online saying certain ship.
I never believe anything the first time I hear it.

(01:47:24):
I always like do research because I look at the
person's name. Oh hey, I saw somebody say this, Well
who said it? Doctor Daniel Fitzpatrick? Out google him? Who's he?
What's his credens? He even qualified to say the ship?

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
And then you'll find out this motherfucker is a blogger,
like suck my dick, bro Like, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
That's That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
Like even if you, if y'all pay attention to my content,
I never make content about rumors. It's a rumor that
Diddy and Meek fucked. I will never talk about stuff
like that because, like, you know what, that can be false.
He has to say it himself. I'm not. I'm not
subscribing to rumors and gossip I can't do it, Bro,

(01:48:09):
because now you got to stand on it. Well I
have to stand on it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
I agree. But yeah, they got anything else? Oh yeah
we under two hours. Yes for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
Uh, y'all know me.

Speaker 5 (01:48:20):
I got some shows coming up, so it looked like
we're doing this dirty bingo thing every every Wednesday downtown.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
I think, yeah, they loved it. I came out last
week and it was dope. You had a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
It was dope.

Speaker 5 (01:48:31):
It's something different, right and Joe the show. If you
thought there was a lot of showties out there last week.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
It wasn't even that. It was a lot. It's just
the ones that quality baddies, super quality as.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
Having a good time. Like everybody was inter rat thing.
It was a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
You you won a good show, bro.

Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
Bro I and I don't want to toot my own horn.
I don't think that I'm the best comedian in Orlando.
I don't think that I'm the best host in Orlando.
But I do think that I have the ability to
curate a vibe. I think people have good time. Right
now as it stands, I'm gonna go and say it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
I think, at this moment, you're the best hosting only
though appreciate that, and it's only one. It's only one
other person that can hold that I'll put next to you.
But he doesn't really host that much.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
But you know who that is?

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
I don't think nobody can fuck with him? Who's that? Vince?

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
Oh? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
No, I think the headliner.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
No, I'm gonna talk about comedy because listen, we all
we all could argue who's the best comedian.

Speaker 5 (01:49:31):
The headliners me of course, but Ken Miller is a headliner.
I wouldn't consider him a host, but I think that
he could best, not better than me, a hosting.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
No, they can't because because the thing about it, you're
curating the vibe you curated. Vince can do that, so
I I I bring a cerain amount of energy. But
people they gotta like be quieter, like, oh ship should
I laugh? Or he's gonna fuck me up, he's gonna
throw me out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
You know how to and you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
You don't have the you don't reject people like you
let everybody in like you're cool with her, You're very welcome,
and you're safe with men and women are like, you
don't be roasting people like you have a good time, Broye.
And every time I see your host something like, yo,
this thinker could fucking hoax his ass off, like and
for that vibe to be a smaller venue.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
I've seen you host you Uniko with three people in it,
Broya out of.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
Walk the funk out, bro, respectful, Like, I ain't doing
this tonight, So I think right now as it stands,
I'm stamping it. Aside from Vince who doesn't host much
because he's all over the world traveling, doing shit. I
give you the crown of the number one hosting on
and y'all heard it here first, and that's me. That's
a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
But no, I appreciate that. I take that as love.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think none of y'all
fucking with Kevin hosting respectfully. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
I just all I care about is the audience having
a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:50:49):
I have a like a deep hearted uh and I
feel like, Yo, if you came out to this show,
let me show you love like this. I want this
experience to open you up to go to other comedy shows,
to go to other dirty Bengals, to go to other things,
because it all helps us as a community together. If
I'm a like, if I'm a dickhead on stage and
I made you feel weird or awkward and ship, you

(01:51:10):
might never go to a comedy show ever again.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
And you you definitely don't do that, and that hurts
us down the road.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
Don't care about how people feel. That's what also makes
you go. I don't care if people feel. Sure I've
kicked people out, I maybe a un comfortable Well that
that's the difference between you and me, is I'm a
good person?

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
What that's it?

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
You at.

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
Our annual back to school drive y is August third.
We actually are doing it in a new location. We
normally do it at our Make.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
Sure you get me the.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
Like a third on the show and put in the
chat so we get to blasted across the hell. Yeah,
so we can blast on the page. You know, we
got the TikTok up down. Let's go so a A
J A pod on TikTok. That's up down that think
that page. We don't have that many followers, but the
fucking views is through the roof. Let's go how it
works that way? They love us. Yeah, so the views
are doing great with the follows suck but we just

(01:52:04):
it'll only be for about a week.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
We'll get it done. Numbers going up on YouTube. Oh yeah,
watching the numbers are going up on YouTube. Numbers are crazy?

Speaker 5 (01:52:11):
People call me in why of our topics that we've
been talking about, and I'm like, they clip that up, like, no,
I watched the podcast, but do you see people in
the comments?

Speaker 1 (01:52:19):
No, I'm not watching them. Why the fuck aren't more
people watching this podcast? I see that comment all the time,
like what's going And I need to figure that out.
I need to figure out what's going on, because Bro,
I don't think there's so many people fucking with us. Bro. Respectfully,
we ain't in it and we ain't interviewing nobody. We
just vibing here, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
Let's go. But I got some ship coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
I don't know what it is right now at the moment,
I can't remember right now, but I'll post all our
stuff up.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
But anyways, guys, weple guys.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Will see you next week, same time, same lord, clod place,
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