August 9, 2024 • 44 mins
Allison Seymour and Marc Clarke not only love each other but they like each other a lot and that's why their marriage of over 24 years is going stronger than ever despite the ups and downs of lost jobs, medical challeges and life. Their podcast taps into the ups the downs, the good, the bad and everything in between. Check it out.
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Jeffrey, Jeffery says, y'all late, that's fine. You're right, Jeffery,
you calling us out.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We almost didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, we've got a couple of things going on. We
got to, you know, our normal connections to Facebook. We
don't have to LinkedIn I mean Facebook and Instagram.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So but look, Jeffreys here, Jeffries here, So Jeffrey, let.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Me tell you to wait a minute. On time.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He's here, Yeah, more on time than we are, as
you know, we are.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
The Elsen and Mark podcast, Mary in Media.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We're so happy to be with you this afternoon, so
much to talk about, so much. We have been.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Absent, I think for the last week and.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Then this week. Right, So we were doing last week, No,
I don't think we did one last week. Lot's going on, y'all,
So we didn't do on last week. But we are
two gen X media pros who happened to be married
with three going kids, and we talk about everything from
politics especially right now, to pop culture a lot in between,
(01:33):
basically a whole lot of love. And Jeffrey, you might
be our guide today because again we're missing our Facebook
family today. But look, let's just.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Let's been interest on Facebook Jeffrey are your first timer
because it's interesting on YouTube, I mean and uh because
again I see the little YouTube thing and normally I
don't get to see that.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So it's good.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So so as far as we said politics, babe, I'm
gonna have to hit this off.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
What a difference a man? Pretty four.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So it went from it's crazy, right, I mean, I
think that the energy around.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
The Democratic Party is off the chesaine.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
The money raised in the weeks since UH President Biden
stepped out of the race for the twenty twenty four
presidential election. The money, I think, the enthusiasm, I think
it's interesting curiosity, Like you know who who is Governor
(02:40):
Tim Walls, you know what I mean. I gotta say though,
he what I see of him, he just seems like
a super smart, connected connector of all people successful in
Congress for I believe getting I.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Want to call it.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I think it was something like six terms I'll check it,
and second term as a governor out out in Minnesota
and just just seems like a connector playing like.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I love his approach. He was a coach in the
high school.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Teacher and it just seems like an interesting fit because
I think that sometimes vice president and presidential nominee Kamala
Harris can come off like if you don't know that
kind of woman, right, she might come off like Okay, now,
who is this? It reminds me of like when The
Cosmic Show was on and people were like, you know, people.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Don't really like that, you know what I mean, Black
people don't really like that.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And you grew up in a neighborhood like that.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I grew up not in a neighborhood with people. And
we all know, I mean, you know, we all know.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
A person like Kamala Harris as far as she might
have been your teacher, she might have been the lawyer,
she might have been whomever. But him coming in with
his approach and then her approach, and yeah, it's interesting.
It's interesting to see the reaction from the on the
other side. And I'm seriously, I have to stock up
(04:11):
on popcorn for these debates. If they have to be
very interesting, yeah, if they have.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, to be very interesting. And I don't know, yeah,
it seems like I don't know, if you know, it's interesting.
I think it would be smart for them not to debate,
for the problem, not to debate, because I don't think
that's going to be a strength strength strength for uh uh,
you know a former President Trump or his VP.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I don't think it'd be a strength. You think they
need to stay.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, but I think that don't you have to?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Don't you have to?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I mean President Trump? Former President Trump said it knows
who we are, we don't have to. So yeah, I
guess we'll see how that works. But yeah, I'm just interesting.
It's such an interesting We're saying that word a lot,
interesting because it is like, if you're a political scientist
right now, you are, you got twenty research papers on
how the tide has changed.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And I will say as somebody from the mid West,
as somebody from the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
They keep talking about him, and.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yes, because j D.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
But but but how do you say his name?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Walts walls like walls.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
They keep talking about governor Walls in the Midwest and uh.
And it's interesting where I come from, which is the Midwest.
He definitely is that, you know that that Indiana, Illinois,
you know, middle of the road. And it was funny
because I saw when I first saw him, I didn't
have the sound up. I just saw his faces, you know,
(05:38):
I had support behind her, and in my mind, I
was like, Oh, it's gonna be a cornball because he
was like, you know, he was you know, he was
miss he was round. And then when he when I
turned it up, he was like every coach I had
coming up, Funny, a motivator, sympathetic, you know, I mean,
(06:00):
all those things that are kind of like.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Exactly. He was the guy that gave everybody ride on
after practice.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
He's the guy you told your deepest, darkest situation you
had to get out of and you need some help.
So yeah, so at first I was like, I thought Shapiro,
I thought Shapiro was, and.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I think I think the interesting breakdown.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I'm sorry we won't be long on politics, but the
interesting breakdown to me is that all of the pro
like the numbers people, and especially if it's a male,
they're like, oh, you know, why didn't they you know,
it was stupid not to pick Shapiro because he could
have stolen that, you know, a certain aspect from Pennsylvania,
(06:40):
and blah blah blah. It's funny. The human the more
personable people really got the vibe of the pick. Didn't
know him, but I'm really impressed. The numbers people kind
of all said the same thing Shapiro should have been.
They made a mistake, they should have went with so
and so they're saying, And I think it is. I
think it does speak to like two schools of thought
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in life in general. The people who are not like
feelers to me, who are kind of cold, they didn't
get it, you know what I mean, Like I don't
think he brings because they're looking at it like, well,
you had a chance to get Pennsylvania, which you have
to win. You have to win Pennsylvania to win, so
why mess around?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But I get it, you know, I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Like he's a he's a smootherer, he's a connector, like
you said, he's a teacher, he's a veteran. It's like
anybody who is a warm sir or a fuzzy warm
and fuzzy or a connection.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
He's fun.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So I think that I think we probably fit in
that box kind of communicators that you definitely go.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I totally get it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And to be honest, Shapiro, who yes, he can bring
in Pennsylvania and he definitely I think would be was powerful.
I think he almost I think again, we like him
too because he's funny, he's sharp, and he's a he's
a pit bull too, but I don't know how he
plays in other places.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Look, let's face it, too, America, we still have a
long way to go. I love this country. I get
frustrated with this country, but it's my country and I'm
here and I don't I'm not interested in living or
being in another country. I don't think that we are
as Americans necessarily ready for all that change. And what
I'm talking about is a woman, a woman of color,
(08:23):
and Jewish vice president either.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
So what you're saying, what you're.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Saying is right.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You know, there's still a lot of people with a
lot of homophobic views and a lot of uh anti
Semitic views. And I think that I'm not saying that
was what it was because Kamala Harris is married to
Doug Mhoff, who is also is a Jewish gentleman. So
he's a proper Jewish gentleman.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
What is that? What is the term? If she's like
the president.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's gonna be the first gentleman, He'll be the proper
first gentleman.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Okay, smart and beautiful.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, So anyway, so we'll see, here's my thing is
this is you know, I hate to even I hate
it to even post anything.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
When Kamala Harris got.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
The nomination when the ticket was they because, sure enough
on my Facebook, you know, here comes somebody, you know,
Trump vance twenty twenty four. Okay, this is not the
space for that. And I actually got people on my
Facebook saying block her, right, and then she was like,
why block me? It's a free country. First of all,
you don't even follow me. You saw this. I reposted
(09:34):
I think a CBS reporter or AP report about the
vice presidential pick and first thing at the gate like
no reaction to that, but just you know Trump vance
twenty twenty four, which was sadly a divisive comment. That's
what you think of when you think of the far
right in the Republican camp with the make America great
(09:57):
again folks. So you knew what you were doing. Not
block her, Let it, let it simmer, let it do it,
do what it's gonna do. But that was not the
right time. And I'm a I am on a I'm like.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Who was this was this wonder woman Bracelest.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I'm a block and I'm a block and foe and
I will be say something racist, say something sexist, say
something just out.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Out landish whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Somebody on my thing said this is they called her
so distant, called her camel toe, and the hawk twoy. Guy,
hawk tow is a really nasty thing they call the
she that they called her, Yeah, but they were calling
him that and her cameltoe. This is on my Facebook page,
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like I'm not going on because you know, it gets
a lot of traffic from folks that are in my
Facebook family and then people you know comment, so I'm
I'm on a block and spree baby.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Person with the little slogan. I don't know if that's
that aggressive. It is aggressive, but it's not offensive.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I Postyes, the only.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Thing that she posts was was Trump vanced twenty twenty four.
Now this is not the space for that. I'm not
saying who are you.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Voting for because that's not my business. I wouldn't ask
that question.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I'm saying, this is the information.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, now I was. I'm just saying it's not offensive.
It's like just like when we just did it's.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Meant to instigate, meant to divide, meant to be I
put out a statement that says, this is the ticket,
this is this is who the president, the presidential nominee
has chosen and the only thing underneath that she says
is Trump vanced twenty twenty four with an American flag. Okay,
(11:51):
that's it. So, but it sounds like you were saying
it's not it shouldn't be it shouldn't be offensive, shouldn't
be offensive, but in this climate, it is.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
It is an incendiary thing to do.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Okay, Well, I want to seg were going fire. Well,
I don't know, baby, because like, for instance, this weekend,
we were out. This past weekend, we're out. You did,
you out doing your thing with the with the commanders.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
So we're out there today with the u U S.
A nine tenth is here.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
This is kid day for Commander's training camp. We are
the official Commander's at station in Channel nine. So you know,
we got to be out here.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I'm out here with tip.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I'm late. I'm supposed to be here at nine. I
don't the baby.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
All right, let's go commanders.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Pretty great time. We just we went out there, had
a great time posting it. Now, somebody right under the thing,
because I'm a ball Baltimore Ravens fan, people watched it.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Somebody said, go Ravens, Go Ravens.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
You know what I mean, it's kind of the same thing, right,
go Ravens almost like yeah, yeah, whatever you're saying, Mark
Clark and Alison Go Ravens and Mark Baltimore is gonna
look at you whatever. He's like, okay, you know what
I mean? Raw rot okay, okay. And then that was
the other thing we did this weekend. What else do
we do this weekend? We were out in the streets
and not Silver Spring, but in the streets, got a
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little guy.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
It was.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Because it doesn't look you'll be jealous, lady right here.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Leading right here.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But great, one of the one of the why do
you why do you go?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Oh yeah, A good time? A good time has I.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Gotta That's how I grew up. I gotta get out
here and enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And speaking of having a good time, babe, good this
just in. I couldn't post the video. I was gonna
post the video. I'm no longer with Fox forty five
and be more news and so Baltimore, I.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Am now excited.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Mark Clark Media Group, Mark Clark Media Group, Let's go.
It's all these you know, all these conversations or times
that I've started to stop. This is a chance to
really go at it. I really grow on our podcast
some other situations. I had good news out. I had
a couple of meetings today, and.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm really excited. I'm really excited. I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
You know. Yeah, I feel like, you know, I definitely
feel like sometimes things are sort of so so seemingly
out of the blue that you just got to be like, wow,
I can't wait. I just will never forget my sweet dad.
Today would have been my Today is my father's birthday.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Oh wait a minute, don't give me emotion. What's up dad?
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Really, today is Papa's birthday. And it's already been weirdly
six years since the past away may get the math right, Like, yeah,
six years. It feels just like yesterday's time is like
in a weird pattern right now, a feeling it feels
like that if you ask me when did your when
(15:35):
did your dad make his transition off the dormut of
two years ago? No, it's been six years and he uh,
he was. He had one hundred and two sayings that
we live by to this day we quote and one
of them or one time, I just will never forget.
We were uh headed down down south for beach Week vacation,
(15:58):
and the best times were when we were able to
take him with us after my mom passed. For like
two years he was with us, and uh, our car
broke down on the way down. Now when we go
is almost all the way down in Georgia. It is
way down in South Carolina, right, and so the car
breaks down, and uh, it's hot, it is so hot,
(16:23):
and he's sitting there in the car and we're waiting
for the tow truck to come and all of that,
and he says, well, well, I can't wait to see
what good comes out of this, remember.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
And that is that's that's what that's what we live by.
And so.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
When you said, well, I'm not gonna be with the
TV station anymore, which beautiful, beautiful job, beautiful opportunity at
Fox forty five, I was like, well, I can't wait
to see him a line. I cannot wait to see
what good comes of this.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And that's why let me just say this.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't even do it. It's okay, I'm just gonna wait.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I have.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
A friend. I have the most amazing wife, period. It's
not a contest. I have the most amazing wife, period.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Thank you, so muche.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Because everybody is.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Everybody said, well, how's else? She's fine the best way
ever ever, So speaking of wives, so this online be
if I wanted to get your take on this, I
think I know your answer.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
This minister.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
The minister is telling given advice. This minister is telling
as all good ministers do. They give advice to the flock.
And so if you're in the flock, do you agree
with this advice?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I just don't like this.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I just don't like that for you to turn around
and look her right and her dog, give an eyeballs
and say.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Shut your mouth. Your wife's talking too much. Just shut up.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But if you're a man you ought to be, you'd
have been doing that all along.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You're supposed to lead your house. You're not supposed to
follow her. Alice, come back.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You are so exhausting, you are so exhausting. Here's how
I feel about it.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Here's how I.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Feel about I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be one hundred
percent keep it on percent with you. As long as
we have people spewing this bullshit, okay, then we're going
to have a society that does not value women. Okay,
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that does not does not value the difference of opinions. Yes,
we are both in here. What does that even mean?
What does it even mean? Look, my daddy was a minister. Okay,
never once did he say shut your mind. I wish
you shut your mouth and do what I say because
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I'm the leader of this household.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
How unkind, how outrageous?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
How we have daughters, okay, to marginalize and minimize and
diminish a whole opinion or thoughts or contributions to a
house because of some antiquated idea right when women couldn't vote,
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or have credit cards or buy anything in their name.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
This is twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And that never I mean, we look at some ancient
civilizations where we have women and men running things, right,
that is that really gets me so upset because you
know what that leads to shut up? Now. Now I'm
on the ground like okay, and now because I don't
have a job because I'm waiting on you know, Look,
(19:57):
it's fine people stay at home, men, women one income.
If you're that's not my business. But what I'm saying is,
when you have that attitude, what's next? You didn't shut up? Okay,
here we go, now, now what's your rights? Don't get
me started. I don't even know now that they very
recently there were rules on the books that allowed men
(20:19):
to uh, it wasn't great to to do whatever they
wanted sexually to. So shut your mouth, little man, get
from behind the pulpit and be a real man, and
understand and recognize in value what your wife is saying,
or give her the right. If all of this to
be like, shut your mouth, I cannot do it. It
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is so for me. It is so it's exhausting. And look,
if your beliefs are that whole. You know in the
Bible women submit to their husbands and all. I'm not
even that's that's on you. If that's your household, that's
not what I'm coming for. But this advice from the pulpit.
So you have a weekly man, now go home and
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because he thinks his wife who is going out to
work and then coming home and trying to tell him
to get his ass off the couch and please can
you please do something.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And she's nagging him, and shut your mouth now, bro.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Just because you're born with different parts does not make you,
does not make you, does not allow you to disrespect anyone.
And that's what it comes down to. It's saying you
don't have to respect women period, because if you think
that ends with that person's household, that guy, this minister
(21:36):
tells him to do this, he goes home, he inflicts
this dominance over his wife, but he can't do it
at his job when his when his boss is a woman.
So where's that anger go. I'm over it, And that's
how I feel about it. And I hate to get
upset and drop the cussers, but Doug, it makes me mad.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Though.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
The part I think your mouth is I think that
I think the.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Part of oish Facebook was working on that kind you
need to save that comment from when Facebook is working
so we can get some debate going. I think I
think it's some.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Men truly believe that.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And here's my thing. I'm not in your home. I'm
not saying like, if you want to do the whole
I don't even know where you know where it is
in the Bible, but the whole submit thing. If that's
your thing, that's your household, do that. But I had
a problem with this as a teaching I got a
problem with this man. And that's what he is. At
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the end of the day. You know, he he's a preacher.
But he's a man. So I got a problem with
this man doing this blanket thing, and the little girls
in the.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Congregation say, okay, please don't. Don't.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
People. Religion has been used. My daddy was a minister,
so I can look. I'm not saying this out of turn.
I'm not like an atheist, just talking out my behind here.
Religion has been used to control yes for centuries and
still going on now in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Nope, lack of humanity, it.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Says, Look at what I mean, look handmate's tail, Look
at what it leads to in an extreme case, look
at what it can lead to. So I think that's
highly irresponsible. It makes me angry and sick, and he
needs to shut his damn out.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
All right, we're gonna wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know what would get me upset? Now, let's talk
about the Olympics, how the United States has dominated.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
The world up.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, so you actually talk about it every morning? What's
your favorite so far?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Oh, you're just talking about Simone Biles like coming out
of you know, and okay, So this is a perfect example,
just the blending of the two things. Before we get
out of here for our two loyal listeners right now,
but perfect Simone Biles last go around in the Olympics, says,
she gets the thing it's called and like, mentally she's
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not there, And I guess when you get that, like
you're just off your game. So she bowed out, and
you know you're thinking, Okay, well she was wonder if
she was great, and let's see who comes next. Well,
here's who comes next, Simone Biles after getting married after this,
so I think she's like twenty seven years old and
just dominates again and just makes the United States so proud.
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And then there's a comment from some political people. Now
now we're in an era now where we value mental health, right,
but now you have some politicians coming out and now
this is the whole stream of consciousness with the politicians. Yeah,
basically we applaud this, this weakness and that you know,
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so what's what's the truth here?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And why were you talking about it when it happened
last time it happened? This time it did not happen.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
No, but they're saying that we like, oh, we love
you Simone Biles because you took care of yourself and
then you came back. And they're saying that should not
be applauded.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Okay, I I didn't even understand.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I didn't even take time to listen to the bs
they were talking about because it was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
What she was doing this year is amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
So that's how they were framing it, like, oh, we
celebrated the fact that she got mental health help.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
No that she that she they say like she was
basically showed weakness.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah she quit. That's what they kind of focused on it,
discounting the healing and the.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Mental health aspect. And so this is what this is
what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Like then why people don't sometimes talk about it because
they don't want to be judged and all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
But moreover, aren't we in a space where we value
the need for or the importance of good mental health?
I thought we were in that space. So no, it's
shown as weakness, And what I'm realizing is that weak
thing week, we got to talk about this again when
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again when we're back up and running full speed. But
what is it with this concept and of your week?
If you vote this way, how old is that? Or
or like this preacher just said, you're weak as a
man if you don't run your house with an iron fist.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
That is seems to be a common.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well common threat. And the part that really.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Is funny about that is when you look at the
elected officials that talk that way. That's the part that's funny.
The part that's funny. You were a scrub. You never
won nothing, You never busted or grape. You never were
you never were desired, You were never you never was
you never was him, you never heard, you were always
(26:43):
on the outskirts. I mean, I'm not gonna name names
because I can, but you know what I'm saying, what's
my man's name? I've been around forever, Republican blond hair, you.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Like, dude, you never got picked first in any team
sport and they talked this hard game and you know
Ted Cruz, are you serious?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
You guys the vice president man. Just because you're out
of TV doesn't mean you can name names. You can,
you can do it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
The irony of it all is, dude, you got push
in the chest every day.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You were the manager.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You weren't the star ever talking all this, it's like
you say, it's all this just like that minister. That
minister was never the guy. You know, when it's when
it is the guy, it is much more problem When
when Arnold Schwarzenegger said whatever and he was actually moderate,
you know what I mean, that person it's a different
kind of you know you look, so.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
You know what, I do love that. I do love
it like when not to name names, but Arnold Schwarzenegger
went up against Ah, he has no love loss for
a popular politician and he he speaks his mind against him.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
And I do love that because us It's just because.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That that is what a person who seeks validation and
also you want to be, that's who you want to
you want to be me, that's who you want to be,
all right, right to.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Our so to our right. That's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You don't sorry, guys, Sorry, y'all. Hundred thousand final words.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Final words is we're so well, can we post this
radio back?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Can we pay?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Can we post this on?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Of course? Okay, and we're back. We're doing our radio payer,
we'll continue that.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Well I never said radio, we never did, so never mind.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Brand new content.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Okay, Well, we're happy. We're trying to be back all
the time. It's a new era. And yeah, how you
feeling good? Feeling all right?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I think actually the people, for the for.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
The people, the hundreds.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Who will watch later, the thousands of thousands watch later. Yes,
how are you feeling in this time of transition? Because
it's not easy.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I feel good.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I think, actually, what's going on, it's from rumblings, and
I think so I can't, for legal reasons say exactly
what happened.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That you don't mean to say what happened. What I'm saying,
you're in You're in this little piece right here.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, this little piece right here. I think, like you said,
I was just thinking about this, how look at this,
how many podcasts and how streaming has grown. Streaming is hey, baby,
it's a neck and neck.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
There was a time when you said streaming and this
and that when I remember in the basement and nobody
you'd be like, what even like with our radio station,
it's on you know, one hundred hip hop and R
and B, it's a it's a website. There was a
time when people were like, I don't get it. Now
people get it. I always say that interview. The Cat
Williams Shannon Sharp interview was a transition where the older crowd,
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especially the older black crowd, was tapped into streaming, because
after that point people just be you know TV, you
know it was on TV if you said it was streaming.
I remember I was at the I was at the
at a restaurant the first time they streamed ANFL game on.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
You know what do we buy Amazon?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And it was so baby was amazing because imagine there
were grown men sitting at the table and they were
sitting there order their wings and they're like, yep, so
they had never really done it before. So you saw
them get their phones out, and you know, there's one
person who knows how to do it, and so they're like,
I don't know about this.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
This is the other games. Time to start the game,
and so he pulls it up and so.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I look back ten minutes later, everybody are eating their
wings now looking at your phone, and it's like, oh,
I like this concept the depth of society. And then
and then they put they put it on here, but
you know what I mean, it was like it was
like a moment. And now those those same people who
I'm sure as they drove to meet each other to
have these wings, were totally against it. They were like,
(31:00):
you know what, I can actually work in the shop
and have my phone to watch the game. I can
actually go on vacation, so you know, it kind of clicks.
So I think I'm in a space where I know
that our podcasts and other activities.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Want to do.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
They may or may not be on traditional television, but
they can also be streaming to get get and get
an audience. I like tonight when we're off our other platforms.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
But you know so I.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Feel good, okay, because mainly I got that.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well, I want to know how you feel emotionally being
in this space. You gotta think our strength for the
two people on here, I think our strength is is
being and I think that there are plenty of people
who are in a state of transition. I'll talk about
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when I was in my state of transition. It's a
it's a It can be a scary feeling. It can
feel like like you know, why, why has this space
been created? It can feel like will I ever be
exactly where I want to be again? Because I thought
this other thing was was secure?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
And how will I muster the faith.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
To continue when it feels like the rug has been
pulled out? From underneath me for whatever reason. That's what
I want to ask you.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Okay, So I will say this and.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
There's nothing about the particulars of anything I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
How Yeah, I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And I was talking to a friend and he went
into the brother you gotta be careful to slip into depression.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
That another hole think.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
But I think, and you know, you know me, you
know me, and you'll say I have no I think
the reality was after the Big Fat Morning Show, which
was Yes Radio, which is my my first love.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
My passion.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
After that, I missed the show, but I learned what
I learned about myself, which I think was such a blessing.
And I think it happened on my way to the
Big Fat Morning Show was when I mentioned in Saint
Louis was I had given my whole life to radio
as a young man, with the plan of getting there
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to the bigger place. And ironically it was in Saint Louis.
So up to that point I dated people. I tell
I led with it. We started, we just started dating.
And I'd say, let's say you're one of the early people, Alison.
You know, if a job opportunity comes, I'm going I'm
out and so I would lead with that, you know
(33:44):
what I mean. And so it was in Saint Louis
where I'm doing the show. We're number one, super popular,
blah blah blah, check ain't nothing, and they did a
you know, the the general manager, he came and he
dressed me down. He told me we're to get some
more money. And whenever my partner, who was the lead
of the show, said Mark me, I want to split
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it fifty fifty with Mark. He used to be on
the show. He needs this and that and that he's
that important to me, which was with a blessing. Tony
Scott with a blessing your a Maager comes back and says,
but hey, Mark, not I didn't say this, Tony said it.
He said, hey, Mark, I talked to I talked to
the program director. He says, you're not that important. He said,
Tony's a star. He says that you're not going to
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their name, is not going to be on the show,
and you're not going to share the share the pay.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I just want you to know.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So he basically, you know, slap me in the face
with his crotch for no reason. And then at the
end of the negotiations. I never forget the plan was
we were going to again. We went in with an
agent and at the end of it, they gave Tony
his money and a brand new computer and they gave
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you and I.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Just walked out and kicking.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That ru Yes, you go enjoy that thirty thirty. And
So at that point, Babe, that was my wake up call.
I think that broke me from the connection to this
is me like radio Mark Clark, it's me. So then
that's when I met you. I put my guard down
up at that point, I wasn't even I mean, it
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wasn't a priority.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I let it down. I feel you followed you out
to here and landed the biggest job of my career.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So, believe it or not, when the biggest job of
my career got taken away, it was over. I think
the biggest problem people have is they have made that
job them.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
And so I think that's what that's the blessing is
I never I'd already been through that, but I never had.
I didn't do that. It was the biggest paycheck. It
was that a die built a family, because this house
is builtful.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
But it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It wasn't like you know when you say Mark Clark,
is I'm not just a radio guy, just.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
The TV guy.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I already I already have been to that. And so
as you know, the segue and the TV. The crazy
part about the TV thing is it was perfect. It
was a perfect job doing what I love to do,
what touch the community, be myself, be a messenger or
share a story off scret storyteller. So I'm in this
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perfect scenario.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
And you just now it's the time and transition again
for whatever reason. So we don't know, but all of
the skill set, everything that you did, the people that
you touched, you don't even know who those people necessarily
are yet. And here's what you asked me about my
party where thank you for sharing that, because that's just
an important reminder.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
This thing can get taken away. It's all an illusion.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
What matters is right, What matters is who what you
give out to the world, and how you act to
when these perfect situations get taken, because there's no really taken.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
That's the other part. It's not really taken. It is
what it is. So this is the lesson here, This
is my lesson.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
This is I think you know what what you're you're
a lesson too.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
But let's not get it twisted.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And you hate when I but I'm gonna say the
difference between my situation and most. I want to say most, babe,
is I have a wife that when I have, I
have the kind of wife where I can genuinely That's
when I got lego in ninety two, Q. I just
wanted to be with you. I just wanted to be
(37:33):
with you. That's only my family. The thing was over
come home with all and I didn't have that. You know,
everybody's like, including my mother, my late mother, everybody was worried.
They were like, you know, because you know a lot
of times that's the end, the money goes whatever you
get these people with you. Now, I could have been wrong,
but I had a reason not to be. I had
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no doubt that you would love me just the same.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And and you did.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I came home.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You weren't like what we're gonna do now? I mean,
I'm sure you had to think that.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
And so just you know, and you know what we did,
and this is like, this is it. This is one
d transparency. We we had to We drained our for
a wife. We any money that we we could uh
that we could get in different savings. We we had
to drain that because the mart market dropped. You were
(38:26):
the uh definitely the money maker of the family. And
it's just like, that's what that's what bothers me. I
think about that, preacher, because that's not for me. A
true marriage and a true partnership. Sometimes you're up, sometimes
you're down. God willing when you're down. I'm up when
I'm up here because it's all hours together because we
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build a home together. And that's what bothers me. I
was like, what is it about that sentiment? Earlier we
played a clip from a from a preacher who was like,
if your wife is nagging you too much, to shut
herm out because you're the head of the household.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
No, And so when you say, like, besides just being like, uh,
you don't have to say that I'm the best wife
and you don't have to do that. But besides that,
it's this is what it is, you know what I mean,
This is what it is.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
That is and understand that that's fine.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Understanding everybody's really different, I guess, and money.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Is what it is. You're facing eviction, your fate you
can't make your rent. You depending on two house two incomes,
and then one is suddenly gone. I can get it.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
And the resentment and the frustration that stuff is all real.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
We're not taking it away. But look, this is just
this is just what it is. It's just we have
a partnership and so and it reminds me speaking of which,
and I said, it was my dad's birthday, and he
he suffered. One summer, I was waiting and waiting for
him to come pick me up. You work downtown d C.
(39:58):
And I had a job in an area called Foggy
Foggy Bottom.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
It was like right in the middle of getting to
our house in DC, and he.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Would pick me up. And one day he picked me
up and we drove an old sixty seven Volkswagen Beetle
and the top was down. It was so hot. And
I was standing out with a friend waiting for him
to come pick me up, and I noticed the car
was swerving or was this a busy DC streets? It
was swerving around and people you know, were blowing and
(40:29):
then all list in the car and Papa looked.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Out of it.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
He didn't look like himself. And let me tell you
something Lafay was a handsome heck of a man. That
was that Memphis baby. Okay, that was that corn bread
and collared greens out wanted corn bread. That was my daddy.
And he didn't He looked weak. He didn't look the same.
And my friend who I was standing with, said, is
that your dad? Like some of them look right? So
(40:53):
he pulls up and this is going back to your
comment about what you wanted to do after you were
laid off. He pulls up and I'm like something, right,
I said, Papa, let me drive, let me drive something.
And I'm a daddy's girl. Let me drive. He's in
the car. He begins to be sick. I could see
that his briefcase, which was which was a leather briefcase,
(41:13):
his books had been thrown in haphazardly. He was very
fastidious with his stuff, not a neat freak, but he
liked his things like he liked his things. And nothing
was right. I realized he was either having a heat
stroke or he was having another sort of medical emergency.
We're driving through the park, We're almost home. I am
in tears. I'm panicking and got this mamor here he is.
(41:37):
I don't know if you've ever seen anybody you know
going through a stroke, like a stroke symptoms. And I said, Papa,
I'm sorry. I got to get you to the hospital.
Got get you to he said, just take me home.
I want to see my wife. He said, I want
to see my wife. And so if you think I'm
a good wife, I learned it from my parents. I
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learned it from that moment when he could have lost
his life and all he wanted to do was go
home and see his wife, which is reminiscent of what
you said. I just want to go home and see
my wife and be with my family. And that's what
it's about at the end of the day. And I'll
leave you with this. The last time I went to
church was before Joe Biden dropped out of the race,
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and I felt like American politics was in a real
weird state of flux.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
And the minister, Michelle Haggins, she said.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Her message was God or faith is in the intersection
of the planned, which you planned, and the interruption and
the intersection of that is God. You got to have faith.
(42:54):
And my dad used to say the faith of a
mustard seed. And so that's why I know that everything
is the be all right, that we're going to be
victorious at the end of the day, and all of
it good will outshine the bad period and so that's
where that comes from. And that's that's all I got
to say. For our faithful two now three people with
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us today. We we love you, Jeffrey, maybe it's okay, yes, yeah,
s guy's the limit. God bless you too, Jeffrey. You
know this has become USA. God Bless America. And uh yeah,
and had to come back.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
From a step Jeffrey, Thanks rock, thanks for rocking with us,
man and everybody else who watched. All right, that's it.
Every Wednesday, I mean full force next week. Okay, for
full Force, here we come. Oh you know what, we
might be very We got a couple of live events
coming up.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Okay, well we don't know the specifics.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, so I'm saying we might. It might be our
first one, might be next weekend, next week, next Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
I'm sir.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
You got to get me some time to get alright.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Alright, love you.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Thanks m HM.
Jeffrey, Jeffery says, y'all late, that's fine. You're right, Jeffery,
you calling us out.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We almost didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, we've got a couple of things going on. We
got to, you know, our normal connections to Facebook. We
don't have to LinkedIn I mean Facebook and Instagram.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So but look, Jeffreys here, Jeffries here, So Jeffrey, let.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Me tell you to wait a minute. On time.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He's here, Yeah, more on time than we are, as
you know, we are.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
The Elsen and Mark podcast, Mary in Media.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We're so happy to be with you this afternoon, so
much to talk about, so much. We have been.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Absent, I think for the last week and.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Then this week. Right, So we were doing last week, No,
I don't think we did one last week. Lot's going on, y'all,
So we didn't do on last week. But we are
two gen X media pros who happened to be married
with three going kids, and we talk about everything from
politics especially right now, to pop culture a lot in between,
(01:33):
basically a whole lot of love. And Jeffrey, you might
be our guide today because again we're missing our Facebook
family today. But look, let's just.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Let's been interest on Facebook Jeffrey are your first timer
because it's interesting on YouTube, I mean and uh because
again I see the little YouTube thing and normally I
don't get to see that.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So it's good.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So so as far as we said politics, babe, I'm
gonna have to hit this off.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
What a difference a man? Pretty four.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So it went from it's crazy, right, I mean, I
think that the energy around.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
The Democratic Party is off the chesaine.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
The money raised in the weeks since UH President Biden
stepped out of the race for the twenty twenty four
presidential election. The money, I think, the enthusiasm, I think
it's interesting curiosity, Like you know who who is Governor
(02:40):
Tim Walls, you know what I mean. I gotta say though,
he what I see of him, he just seems like
a super smart, connected connector of all people successful in
Congress for I believe getting I.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Want to call it.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I think it was something like six terms I'll check it,
and second term as a governor out out in Minnesota
and just just seems like a connector playing like.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I love his approach. He was a coach in the
high school.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Teacher and it just seems like an interesting fit because
I think that sometimes vice president and presidential nominee Kamala
Harris can come off like if you don't know that
kind of woman, right, she might come off like Okay, now,
who is this? It reminds me of like when The
Cosmic Show was on and people were like, you know, people.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Don't really like that, you know what I mean, Black
people don't really like that.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And you grew up in a neighborhood like that.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I grew up not in a neighborhood with people. And
we all know, I mean, you know, we all know.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
A person like Kamala Harris as far as she might
have been your teacher, she might have been the lawyer,
she might have been whomever. But him coming in with
his approach and then her approach, and yeah, it's interesting.
It's interesting to see the reaction from the on the
other side. And I'm seriously, I have to stock up
(04:11):
on popcorn for these debates. If they have to be
very interesting, yeah, if they have.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, to be very interesting. And I don't know, yeah,
it seems like I don't know, if you know, it's interesting.
I think it would be smart for them not to debate,
for the problem, not to debate, because I don't think
that's going to be a strength strength strength for uh uh,
you know a former President Trump or his VP.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I don't think it'd be a strength. You think they
need to stay.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, but I think that don't you have to?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Don't you have to?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I mean President Trump? Former President Trump said it knows
who we are, we don't have to. So yeah, I
guess we'll see how that works. But yeah, I'm just interesting.
It's such an interesting We're saying that word a lot,
interesting because it is like, if you're a political scientist
right now, you are, you got twenty research papers on
how the tide has changed.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And I will say as somebody from the mid West,
as somebody from the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
They keep talking about him, and.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yes, because j D.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
But but but how do you say his name?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Walts walls like walls.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
They keep talking about governor Walls in the Midwest and uh.
And it's interesting where I come from, which is the Midwest.
He definitely is that, you know that that Indiana, Illinois,
you know, middle of the road. And it was funny
because I saw when I first saw him, I didn't
have the sound up. I just saw his faces, you know,
(05:38):
I had support behind her, and in my mind, I
was like, Oh, it's gonna be a cornball because he
was like, you know, he was you know, he was
miss he was round. And then when he when I
turned it up, he was like every coach I had
coming up, Funny, a motivator, sympathetic, you know, I mean,
(06:00):
all those things that are kind of like.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Exactly. He was the guy that gave everybody ride on
after practice.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
He's the guy you told your deepest, darkest situation you
had to get out of and you need some help.
So yeah, so at first I was like, I thought Shapiro,
I thought Shapiro was, and.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I think I think the interesting breakdown.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I'm sorry we won't be long on politics, but the
interesting breakdown to me is that all of the pro
like the numbers people, and especially if it's a male,
they're like, oh, you know, why didn't they you know,
it was stupid not to pick Shapiro because he could
have stolen that, you know, a certain aspect from Pennsylvania,
(06:40):
and blah blah blah. It's funny. The human the more
personable people really got the vibe of the pick. Didn't
know him, but I'm really impressed. The numbers people kind
of all said the same thing Shapiro should have been.
They made a mistake, they should have went with so
and so they're saying, And I think it is. I
think it does speak to like two schools of thought
(07:03):
in life in general. The people who are not like
feelers to me, who are kind of cold, they didn't
get it, you know what I mean, Like I don't
think he brings because they're looking at it like, well,
you had a chance to get Pennsylvania, which you have
to win. You have to win Pennsylvania to win, so
why mess around?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But I get it, you know, I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Like he's a he's a smootherer, he's a connector, like
you said, he's a teacher, he's a veteran. It's like
anybody who is a warm sir or a fuzzy warm
and fuzzy or a connection.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
He's fun.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So I think that I think we probably fit in
that box kind of communicators that you definitely go.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I totally get it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And to be honest, Shapiro, who yes, he can bring
in Pennsylvania and he definitely I think would be was powerful.
I think he almost I think again, we like him
too because he's funny, he's sharp, and he's a he's
a pit bull too, but I don't know how he
plays in other places.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Look, let's face it, too, America, we still have a
long way to go. I love this country. I get
frustrated with this country, but it's my country and I'm
here and I don't I'm not interested in living or
being in another country. I don't think that we are
as Americans necessarily ready for all that change. And what
I'm talking about is a woman, a woman of color,
(08:23):
and Jewish vice president either.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
So what you're saying, what you're.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Saying is right.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You know, there's still a lot of people with a
lot of homophobic views and a lot of uh anti
Semitic views. And I think that I'm not saying that
was what it was because Kamala Harris is married to
Doug Mhoff, who is also is a Jewish gentleman. So
he's a proper Jewish gentleman.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
What is that? What is the term? If she's like
the president.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's gonna be the first gentleman, He'll be the proper
first gentleman.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Okay, smart and beautiful.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, So anyway, so we'll see, here's my thing is
this is you know, I hate to even I hate
it to even post anything.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
When Kamala Harris got.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
The nomination when the ticket was they because, sure enough
on my Facebook, you know, here comes somebody, you know,
Trump vance twenty twenty four. Okay, this is not the
space for that. And I actually got people on my
Facebook saying block her, right, and then she was like,
why block me? It's a free country. First of all,
you don't even follow me. You saw this. I reposted
(09:34):
I think a CBS reporter or AP report about the
vice presidential pick and first thing at the gate like
no reaction to that, but just you know Trump vance
twenty twenty four, which was sadly a divisive comment. That's
what you think of when you think of the far
right in the Republican camp with the make America great
(09:57):
again folks. So you knew what you were doing. Not
block her, Let it, let it simmer, let it do it,
do what it's gonna do. But that was not the
right time. And I'm a I am on a I'm like.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Who was this was this wonder woman Bracelest.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I'm a block and I'm a block and foe and
I will be say something racist, say something sexist, say
something just out.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Out landish whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Somebody on my thing said this is they called her
so distant, called her camel toe, and the hawk twoy. Guy,
hawk tow is a really nasty thing they call the
she that they called her, Yeah, but they were calling
him that and her cameltoe. This is on my Facebook page,
(10:47):
like I'm not going on because you know, it gets
a lot of traffic from folks that are in my
Facebook family and then people you know comment, so I'm
I'm on a block and spree baby.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Person with the little slogan. I don't know if that's
that aggressive. It is aggressive, but it's not offensive.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I Postyes, the only.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Thing that she posts was was Trump vanced twenty twenty four.
Now this is not the space for that. I'm not
saying who are you.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Voting for because that's not my business. I wouldn't ask
that question.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I'm saying, this is the information.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, now I was. I'm just saying it's not offensive.
It's like just like when we just did it's.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Meant to instigate, meant to divide, meant to be I
put out a statement that says, this is the ticket,
this is this is who the president, the presidential nominee
has chosen and the only thing underneath that she says
is Trump vanced twenty twenty four with an American flag. Okay,
(11:51):
that's it. So, but it sounds like you were saying
it's not it shouldn't be it shouldn't be offensive, shouldn't
be offensive, but in this climate, it is.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
It is an incendiary thing to do.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Okay, Well, I want to seg were going fire. Well,
I don't know, baby, because like, for instance, this weekend,
we were out. This past weekend, we're out. You did,
you out doing your thing with the with the commanders.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
So we're out there today with the u U S.
A nine tenth is here.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
This is kid day for Commander's training camp. We are
the official Commander's at station in Channel nine. So you know,
we got to be out here.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I'm out here with tip.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I'm late. I'm supposed to be here at nine. I
don't the baby.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
All right, let's go commanders.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Pretty great time. We just we went out there, had
a great time posting it. Now, somebody right under the thing,
because I'm a ball Baltimore Ravens fan, people watched it.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Somebody said, go Ravens, Go Ravens.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
You know what I mean, it's kind of the same thing, right,
go Ravens almost like yeah, yeah, whatever you're saying, Mark
Clark and Alison Go Ravens and Mark Baltimore is gonna
look at you whatever. He's like, okay, you know what
I mean? Raw rot okay, okay. And then that was
the other thing we did this weekend. What else do
we do this weekend? We were out in the streets
and not Silver Spring, but in the streets, got a
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little guy.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
It was.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Because it doesn't look you'll be jealous, lady right here.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Leading right here.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But great, one of the one of the why do
you why do you go?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Oh yeah, A good time? A good time has I.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Gotta That's how I grew up. I gotta get out
here and enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And speaking of having a good time, babe, good this
just in. I couldn't post the video. I was gonna
post the video. I'm no longer with Fox forty five
and be more news and so Baltimore, I.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Am now excited.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Mark Clark Media Group, Mark Clark Media Group, Let's go.
It's all these you know, all these conversations or times
that I've started to stop. This is a chance to
really go at it. I really grow on our podcast
some other situations. I had good news out. I had
a couple of meetings today, and.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm really excited. I'm really excited. I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
You know. Yeah, I feel like, you know, I definitely
feel like sometimes things are sort of so so seemingly
out of the blue that you just got to be like, wow,
I can't wait. I just will never forget my sweet dad.
Today would have been my Today is my father's birthday.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Oh wait a minute, don't give me emotion. What's up dad?
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Really, today is Papa's birthday. And it's already been weirdly
six years since the past away may get the math right, Like, yeah,
six years. It feels just like yesterday's time is like
in a weird pattern right now, a feeling it feels
like that if you ask me when did your when
(15:35):
did your dad make his transition off the dormut of
two years ago? No, it's been six years and he uh,
he was. He had one hundred and two sayings that
we live by to this day we quote and one
of them or one time, I just will never forget.
We were uh headed down down south for beach Week vacation,
(15:58):
and the best times were when we were able to
take him with us after my mom passed. For like
two years he was with us, and uh, our car
broke down on the way down. Now when we go
is almost all the way down in Georgia. It is
way down in South Carolina, right, and so the car
breaks down, and uh, it's hot, it is so hot,
(16:23):
and he's sitting there in the car and we're waiting
for the tow truck to come and all of that,
and he says, well, well, I can't wait to see
what good comes out of this, remember.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
And that is that's that's what that's what we live by.
And so.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
When you said, well, I'm not gonna be with the
TV station anymore, which beautiful, beautiful job, beautiful opportunity at
Fox forty five, I was like, well, I can't wait
to see him a line. I cannot wait to see
what good comes of this.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And that's why let me just say this.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't even do it. It's okay, I'm just gonna wait.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I have.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
A friend. I have the most amazing wife, period. It's
not a contest. I have the most amazing wife, period.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Thank you, so muche.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Because everybody is.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Everybody said, well, how's else? She's fine the best way
ever ever, So speaking of wives, so this online be
if I wanted to get your take on this, I
think I know your answer.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
This minister.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
The minister is telling given advice. This minister is telling
as all good ministers do. They give advice to the flock.
And so if you're in the flock, do you agree
with this advice?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I just don't like this.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I just don't like that for you to turn around
and look her right and her dog, give an eyeballs
and say.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Shut your mouth. Your wife's talking too much. Just shut up.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But if you're a man you ought to be, you'd
have been doing that all along.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You're supposed to lead your house. You're not supposed to
follow her. Alice, come back.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You are so exhausting, you are so exhausting. Here's how
I feel about it.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Here's how I.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Feel about I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be one hundred
percent keep it on percent with you. As long as
we have people spewing this bullshit, okay, then we're going
to have a society that does not value women. Okay,
(18:42):
that does not does not value the difference of opinions. Yes,
we are both in here. What does that even mean?
What does it even mean? Look, my daddy was a minister. Okay,
never once did he say shut your mind. I wish
you shut your mouth and do what I say because
(19:02):
I'm the leader of this household.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
How unkind, how outrageous?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
How we have daughters, okay, to marginalize and minimize and
diminish a whole opinion or thoughts or contributions to a
house because of some antiquated idea right when women couldn't vote,
(19:29):
or have credit cards or buy anything in their name.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
This is twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And that never I mean, we look at some ancient
civilizations where we have women and men running things, right,
that is that really gets me so upset because you
know what that leads to shut up? Now. Now I'm
on the ground like okay, and now because I don't
have a job because I'm waiting on you know, Look,
(19:57):
it's fine people stay at home, men, women one income.
If you're that's not my business. But what I'm saying is,
when you have that attitude, what's next? You didn't shut up? Okay,
here we go, now, now what's your rights? Don't get
me started. I don't even know now that they very
recently there were rules on the books that allowed men
(20:19):
to uh, it wasn't great to to do whatever they
wanted sexually to. So shut your mouth, little man, get
from behind the pulpit and be a real man, and
understand and recognize in value what your wife is saying,
or give her the right. If all of this to
be like, shut your mouth, I cannot do it. It
(20:41):
is so for me. It is so it's exhausting. And look,
if your beliefs are that whole. You know in the
Bible women submit to their husbands and all. I'm not
even that's that's on you. If that's your household, that's
not what I'm coming for. But this advice from the pulpit.
So you have a weekly man, now go home and
(21:01):
because he thinks his wife who is going out to
work and then coming home and trying to tell him
to get his ass off the couch and please can
you please do something.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And she's nagging him, and shut your mouth now, bro.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Just because you're born with different parts does not make you,
does not make you, does not allow you to disrespect anyone.
And that's what it comes down to. It's saying you
don't have to respect women period, because if you think
that ends with that person's household, that guy, this minister
(21:36):
tells him to do this, he goes home, he inflicts
this dominance over his wife, but he can't do it
at his job when his when his boss is a woman.
So where's that anger go. I'm over it, And that's
how I feel about it. And I hate to get
upset and drop the cussers, but Doug, it makes me mad.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Though.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
The part I think your mouth is I think that
I think the.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Part of oish Facebook was working on that kind you
need to save that comment from when Facebook is working
so we can get some debate going. I think I
think it's some.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Men truly believe that.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And here's my thing. I'm not in your home. I'm
not saying like, if you want to do the whole
I don't even know where you know where it is
in the Bible, but the whole submit thing. If that's
your thing, that's your household, do that. But I had
a problem with this as a teaching I got a
problem with this man. And that's what he is. At
(22:37):
the end of the day. You know, he he's a preacher.
But he's a man. So I got a problem with
this man doing this blanket thing, and the little girls
in the.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Congregation say, okay, please don't. Don't.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
People. Religion has been used. My daddy was a minister,
so I can look. I'm not saying this out of turn.
I'm not like an atheist, just talking out my behind here.
Religion has been used to control yes for centuries and
still going on now in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Nope, lack of humanity, it.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Says, Look at what I mean, look handmate's tail, Look
at what it leads to in an extreme case, look
at what it can lead to. So I think that's
highly irresponsible. It makes me angry and sick, and he
needs to shut his damn out.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
All right, we're gonna wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know what would get me upset? Now, let's talk
about the Olympics, how the United States has dominated.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
The world up.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, so you actually talk about it every morning? What's
your favorite so far?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Oh, you're just talking about Simone Biles like coming out
of you know, and okay, So this is a perfect example,
just the blending of the two things. Before we get
out of here for our two loyal listeners right now,
but perfect Simone Biles last go around in the Olympics, says,
she gets the thing it's called and like, mentally she's
(24:02):
not there, And I guess when you get that, like
you're just off your game. So she bowed out, and
you know you're thinking, Okay, well she was wonder if
she was great, and let's see who comes next. Well,
here's who comes next, Simone Biles after getting married after this,
so I think she's like twenty seven years old and
just dominates again and just makes the United States so proud.
(24:22):
And then there's a comment from some political people. Now
now we're in an era now where we value mental health, right,
but now you have some politicians coming out and now
this is the whole stream of consciousness with the politicians. Yeah,
basically we applaud this, this weakness and that you know,
(24:46):
so what's what's the truth here?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And why were you talking about it when it happened
last time it happened? This time it did not happen.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
No, but they're saying that we like, oh, we love
you Simone Biles because you took care of yourself and
then you came back. And they're saying that should not
be applauded.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Okay, I I didn't even understand.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I didn't even take time to listen to the bs
they were talking about because it was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
What she was doing this year is amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
So that's how they were framing it, like, oh, we
celebrated the fact that she got mental health help.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
No that she that she they say like she was
basically showed weakness.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah she quit. That's what they kind of focused on it,
discounting the healing and the.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Mental health aspect. And so this is what this is
what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Like then why people don't sometimes talk about it because
they don't want to be judged and all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
But moreover, aren't we in a space where we value
the need for or the importance of good mental health?
I thought we were in that space. So no, it's
shown as weakness, And what I'm realizing is that weak
thing week, we got to talk about this again when
(25:56):
again when we're back up and running full speed. But
what is it with this concept and of your week?
If you vote this way, how old is that? Or
or like this preacher just said, you're weak as a
man if you don't run your house with an iron fist.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
That is seems to be a common.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well common threat. And the part that really.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Is funny about that is when you look at the
elected officials that talk that way. That's the part that's funny.
The part that's funny. You were a scrub. You never
won nothing, You never busted or grape. You never were
you never were desired, You were never you never was
you never was him, you never heard, you were always
(26:43):
on the outskirts. I mean, I'm not gonna name names
because I can, but you know what I'm saying, what's
my man's name? I've been around forever, Republican blond hair, you.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Like, dude, you never got picked first in any team
sport and they talked this hard game and you know
Ted Cruz, are you serious?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
You guys the vice president man. Just because you're out
of TV doesn't mean you can name names. You can,
you can do it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
The irony of it all is, dude, you got push
in the chest every day.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You were the manager.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You weren't the star ever talking all this, it's like
you say, it's all this just like that minister. That
minister was never the guy. You know, when it's when
it is the guy, it is much more problem When
when Arnold Schwarzenegger said whatever and he was actually moderate,
you know what I mean, that person it's a different
kind of you know you look, so.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
You know what, I do love that. I do love
it like when not to name names, but Arnold Schwarzenegger
went up against Ah, he has no love loss for
a popular politician and he he speaks his mind against him.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
And I do love that because us It's just because.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That that is what a person who seeks validation and
also you want to be, that's who you want to
you want to be me, that's who you want to be,
all right, right to.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Our so to our right. That's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You don't sorry, guys, Sorry, y'all. Hundred thousand final words.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Final words is we're so well, can we post this
radio back?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Can we pay?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Can we post this on?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Of course? Okay, and we're back. We're doing our radio payer,
we'll continue that.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Well I never said radio, we never did, so never mind.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Brand new content.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Okay, Well, we're happy. We're trying to be back all
the time. It's a new era. And yeah, how you
feeling good? Feeling all right?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I think actually the people, for the for.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
The people, the hundreds.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Who will watch later, the thousands of thousands watch later. Yes,
how are you feeling in this time of transition? Because
it's not easy.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I feel good.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I think, actually, what's going on, it's from rumblings, and
I think so I can't, for legal reasons say exactly
what happened.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That you don't mean to say what happened. What I'm saying,
you're in You're in this little piece right here.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, this little piece right here. I think, like you said,
I was just thinking about this, how look at this,
how many podcasts and how streaming has grown. Streaming is hey, baby,
it's a neck and neck.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
There was a time when you said streaming and this
and that when I remember in the basement and nobody
you'd be like, what even like with our radio station,
it's on you know, one hundred hip hop and R
and B, it's a it's a website. There was a
time when people were like, I don't get it. Now
people get it. I always say that interview. The Cat
Williams Shannon Sharp interview was a transition where the older crowd,
(29:56):
especially the older black crowd, was tapped into streaming, because
after that point people just be you know TV, you
know it was on TV if you said it was streaming.
I remember I was at the I was at the
at a restaurant the first time they streamed ANFL game on.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
You know what do we buy Amazon?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And it was so baby was amazing because imagine there
were grown men sitting at the table and they were
sitting there order their wings and they're like, yep, so
they had never really done it before. So you saw
them get their phones out, and you know, there's one
person who knows how to do it, and so they're like,
I don't know about this.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
This is the other games. Time to start the game,
and so he pulls it up and so.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I look back ten minutes later, everybody are eating their
wings now looking at your phone, and it's like, oh,
I like this concept the depth of society. And then
and then they put they put it on here, but
you know what I mean, it was like it was
like a moment. And now those those same people who
I'm sure as they drove to meet each other to
have these wings, were totally against it. They were like,
(31:00):
you know what, I can actually work in the shop
and have my phone to watch the game. I can
actually go on vacation, so you know, it kind of clicks.
So I think I'm in a space where I know
that our podcasts and other activities.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Want to do.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
They may or may not be on traditional television, but
they can also be streaming to get get and get
an audience. I like tonight when we're off our other platforms.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
But you know so I.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Feel good, okay, because mainly I got that.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well, I want to know how you feel emotionally being
in this space. You gotta think our strength for the
two people on here, I think our strength is is
being and I think that there are plenty of people
who are in a state of transition. I'll talk about
(31:54):
when I was in my state of transition. It's a
it's a It can be a scary feeling. It can
feel like like you know, why, why has this space
been created? It can feel like will I ever be
exactly where I want to be again? Because I thought
this other thing was was secure?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
And how will I muster the faith.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
To continue when it feels like the rug has been
pulled out? From underneath me for whatever reason. That's what
I want to ask you.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Okay, So I will say this and.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
There's nothing about the particulars of anything I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
How Yeah, I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And I was talking to a friend and he went
into the brother you gotta be careful to slip into depression.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
That another hole think.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
But I think, and you know, you know me, you
know me, and you'll say I have no I think
the reality was after the Big Fat Morning Show, which
was Yes Radio, which is my my first love.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
My passion.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
After that, I missed the show, but I learned what
I learned about myself, which I think was such a blessing.
And I think it happened on my way to the
Big Fat Morning Show was when I mentioned in Saint
Louis was I had given my whole life to radio
as a young man, with the plan of getting there
(33:23):
to the bigger place. And ironically it was in Saint Louis.
So up to that point I dated people. I tell
I led with it. We started, we just started dating.
And I'd say, let's say you're one of the early people, Alison.
You know, if a job opportunity comes, I'm going I'm
out and so I would lead with that, you know
(33:44):
what I mean. And so it was in Saint Louis
where I'm doing the show. We're number one, super popular,
blah blah blah, check ain't nothing, and they did a
you know, the the general manager, he came and he
dressed me down. He told me we're to get some
more money. And whenever my partner, who was the lead
of the show, said Mark me, I want to split
(34:04):
it fifty fifty with Mark. He used to be on
the show. He needs this and that and that he's
that important to me, which was with a blessing. Tony
Scott with a blessing your a Maager comes back and says,
but hey, Mark, not I didn't say this, Tony said it.
He said, hey, Mark, I talked to I talked to
the program director. He says, you're not that important. He said,
Tony's a star. He says that you're not going to
(34:25):
their name, is not going to be on the show,
and you're not going to share the share the pay.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I just want you to know.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So he basically, you know, slap me in the face
with his crotch for no reason. And then at the
end of the negotiations. I never forget the plan was
we were going to again. We went in with an
agent and at the end of it, they gave Tony
his money and a brand new computer and they gave
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you and I.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Just walked out and kicking.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That ru Yes, you go enjoy that thirty thirty. And
So at that point, Babe, that was my wake up call.
I think that broke me from the connection to this
is me like radio Mark Clark, it's me. So then
that's when I met you. I put my guard down
up at that point, I wasn't even I mean, it
(35:20):
wasn't a priority.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I let it down. I feel you followed you out
to here and landed the biggest job of my career.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So, believe it or not, when the biggest job of
my career got taken away, it was over. I think
the biggest problem people have is they have made that
job them.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
And so I think that's what that's the blessing is
I never I'd already been through that, but I never had.
I didn't do that. It was the biggest paycheck. It
was that a die built a family, because this house
is builtful.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
But it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It wasn't like you know when you say Mark Clark,
is I'm not just a radio guy, just.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
The TV guy.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I already I already have been to that. And so
as you know, the segue and the TV. The crazy
part about the TV thing is it was perfect. It
was a perfect job doing what I love to do,
what touch the community, be myself, be a messenger or
share a story off scret storyteller. So I'm in this
(36:21):
perfect scenario.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
And you just now it's the time and transition again
for whatever reason. So we don't know, but all of
the skill set, everything that you did, the people that
you touched, you don't even know who those people necessarily
are yet. And here's what you asked me about my
party where thank you for sharing that, because that's just
an important reminder.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
This thing can get taken away. It's all an illusion.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
What matters is right, What matters is who what you
give out to the world, and how you act to
when these perfect situations get taken, because there's no really taken.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
That's the other part. It's not really taken. It is
what it is. So this is the lesson here, This
is my lesson.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
This is I think you know what what you're you're
a lesson too.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
But let's not get it twisted.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And you hate when I but I'm gonna say the
difference between my situation and most. I want to say most, babe,
is I have a wife that when I have, I
have the kind of wife where I can genuinely That's
when I got lego in ninety two, Q. I just
wanted to be with you. I just wanted to be
(37:33):
with you. That's only my family. The thing was over
come home with all and I didn't have that. You know,
everybody's like, including my mother, my late mother, everybody was worried.
They were like, you know, because you know a lot
of times that's the end, the money goes whatever you
get these people with you. Now, I could have been wrong,
but I had a reason not to be. I had
(37:54):
no doubt that you would love me just the same.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And and you did.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I came home.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You weren't like what we're gonna do now? I mean,
I'm sure you had to think that.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
And so just you know, and you know what we did,
and this is like, this is it. This is one
d transparency. We we had to We drained our for
a wife. We any money that we we could uh
that we could get in different savings. We we had
to drain that because the mart market dropped. You were
(38:26):
the uh definitely the money maker of the family. And
it's just like, that's what that's what bothers me. I
think about that, preacher, because that's not for me. A
true marriage and a true partnership. Sometimes you're up, sometimes
you're down. God willing when you're down. I'm up when
I'm up here because it's all hours together because we
(38:48):
build a home together. And that's what bothers me. I
was like, what is it about that sentiment? Earlier we
played a clip from a from a preacher who was like,
if your wife is nagging you too much, to shut
herm out because you're the head of the household.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
No, And so when you say, like, besides just being like, uh,
you don't have to say that I'm the best wife
and you don't have to do that. But besides that,
it's this is what it is, you know what I mean,
This is what it is.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
That is and understand that that's fine.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Understanding everybody's really different, I guess, and money.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Is what it is. You're facing eviction, your fate you
can't make your rent. You depending on two house two incomes,
and then one is suddenly gone. I can get it.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
And the resentment and the frustration that stuff is all real.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
We're not taking it away. But look, this is just
this is just what it is. It's just we have
a partnership and so and it reminds me speaking of which,
and I said, it was my dad's birthday, and he
he suffered. One summer, I was waiting and waiting for
him to come pick me up. You work downtown d C.
(39:58):
And I had a job in an area called Foggy
Foggy Bottom.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
It was like right in the middle of getting to
our house in DC, and he.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Would pick me up. And one day he picked me
up and we drove an old sixty seven Volkswagen Beetle
and the top was down. It was so hot. And
I was standing out with a friend waiting for him
to come pick me up, and I noticed the car
was swerving or was this a busy DC streets? It
was swerving around and people you know, were blowing and
(40:29):
then all list in the car and Papa looked.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Out of it.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
He didn't look like himself. And let me tell you
something Lafay was a handsome heck of a man. That
was that Memphis baby. Okay, that was that corn bread
and collared greens out wanted corn bread. That was my daddy.
And he didn't He looked weak. He didn't look the same.
And my friend who I was standing with, said, is
that your dad? Like some of them look right? So
(40:53):
he pulls up and this is going back to your
comment about what you wanted to do after you were
laid off. He pulls up and I'm like something, right,
I said, Papa, let me drive, let me drive something.
And I'm a daddy's girl. Let me drive. He's in
the car. He begins to be sick. I could see
that his briefcase, which was which was a leather briefcase,
(41:13):
his books had been thrown in haphazardly. He was very
fastidious with his stuff, not a neat freak, but he
liked his things like he liked his things. And nothing
was right. I realized he was either having a heat
stroke or he was having another sort of medical emergency.
We're driving through the park, We're almost home. I am
in tears. I'm panicking and got this mamor here he is.
(41:37):
I don't know if you've ever seen anybody you know
going through a stroke, like a stroke symptoms. And I said, Papa,
I'm sorry. I got to get you to the hospital.
Got get you to he said, just take me home.
I want to see my wife. He said, I want
to see my wife. And so if you think I'm
a good wife, I learned it from my parents. I
(42:00):
learned it from that moment when he could have lost
his life and all he wanted to do was go
home and see his wife, which is reminiscent of what
you said. I just want to go home and see
my wife and be with my family. And that's what
it's about at the end of the day. And I'll
leave you with this. The last time I went to
church was before Joe Biden dropped out of the race,
(42:23):
and I felt like American politics was in a real
weird state of flux.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
And the minister, Michelle Haggins, she said.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Her message was God or faith is in the intersection
of the planned, which you planned, and the interruption and
the intersection of that is God. You got to have faith.
(42:54):
And my dad used to say the faith of a
mustard seed. And so that's why I know that everything
is the be all right, that we're going to be
victorious at the end of the day, and all of
it good will outshine the bad period and so that's
where that comes from. And that's that's all I got
to say. For our faithful two now three people with
(43:17):
us today. We we love you, Jeffrey, maybe it's okay, yes, yeah,
s guy's the limit. God bless you too, Jeffrey. You
know this has become USA. God Bless America. And uh yeah,
and had to come back.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
From a step Jeffrey, Thanks rock, thanks for rocking with us,
man and everybody else who watched. All right, that's it.
Every Wednesday, I mean full force next week. Okay, for
full Force, here we come. Oh you know what, we
might be very We got a couple of live events
coming up.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Okay, well we don't know the specifics.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, so I'm saying we might. It might be our
first one, might be next weekend, next week, next Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
I'm sir.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
You got to get me some time to get alright.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Alright, love you.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Thanks m HM.
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