The Allison & Marc Podcast_:Trump Guilty, Caitlin Clark,Is Martin OK, More

Allison Seymour and Marc Clarke are Married in Media. Allison is a hall of fame broadcaster in Washington DC and Marc is a radio legend in Baltimore and for over 24 years they have shared their stories of family, community and celebrity and politics and that is what their podcast focuses on. Enjoy.

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Speaker 5 (02:53):
All Right, family, without further ado, Welcome to the Alto
Mark podcast. Allison's hitting down as we speak. Welcome to
the show. We're excited. We got Carl with a K.
I see our regulars are hopped on everybody. What's going on?
It's been a crazy We've been a busy day today,
but I've got about sixteen people in already. A Carl

(03:17):
with the K is on stage ready to go. Carl,
Are you where are you tonight?

Speaker 6 (03:21):
Are you home? Where are you tonight?

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Right now?

Speaker 7 (03:23):
I'm home, but I'm looking at this weather and not
anticipating driving out to Arundel Mills right now because it's
coming down outside. Really, really, are bro?

Speaker 5 (03:32):
What are you?

Speaker 6 (03:32):
What's your next Thursday look like?

Speaker 7 (03:34):
Next Thursday. Uh huh, I'm at usually around seven thirty.
I'm at TGI Friday's and Owen's Mills.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Oh on Thursdays. Okay, I was checking. I'm trying to
get a date, but I know you're busy. Okay, So yeah,
you know, my birthday is Saturday, and everything snick up
on me. A trial was gonna do, an event was
gonna do. This, is gonna do that, but of course
it caught up to me. So now I'm like back,
I'm backsliding back because I understand, you know, trying to

(04:02):
I'm trying to work you in some some some venue
and it was a place on Thursday.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
But I won't get the great Carl with the cave
not a problem.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Well, just let me know time.

Speaker 7 (04:12):
I might be able to squeeze it in if it's
something that's going earlier or later and it's near my
he spread thin.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
Ladies and gentlemen, you got when you can.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Carl is available for parties, divorce parties, wedding and let's
not forget cookouts like history.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
Yeah, cookouts definitely definitely And you do know o DJ too.
So sometimes.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
Are with you hitting it with the old school?

Speaker 7 (04:39):
Oh yeah, Oh definitely, definitely. I had to actually I
had to actually had to turn down a party when
they asked me to do a prom after party. I
was like, let me give you the number to somebody else.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Well, so Allison's on the way down. So Carl, you
can warm it up. You what you what you got
to start things off with.

Speaker 7 (04:56):
Well, just a couple of things. We had talked a
little bit about how the Negro league record are going
to be included. I mean to turn my lights, that's
what I have on my lights. I don't know if
you can see me that. Well, that's better, okay. And
so I got one of my questions, you want to
wait for Allison? You want me to just go ahead
and start.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
Starting Then Alison, she's coming down.

Speaker 7 (05:12):
Okay, not a problem we had. We had talked about
how the negro league records are going to start be
included in the MLB.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
Yeah, so my.

Speaker 7 (05:22):
First question is going to be kind of negro leagueash
type of thing. Yes, uh, what artists, not recording artists.
We're talking to artists, artists painters played in the negro
leagues and was recruited by a major league team. And
this occurred before Jackie Robinson Wow.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
Okay, that was a good one, man, what artists?

Speaker 7 (05:45):
Let me see now, the choices are romayor Bearden, Jacob
Lawrence or Charles White.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Okay, I'm gonna have to go with one of our
favorites in our household. I think we have a predominance
of his paying in our house and I don't know
if that word is a predominance.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
Is that a word?

Speaker 7 (06:04):
Jacob Lawrence, Jacob Lawrence, that's who you're going to.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Go with, even though age wise, Bearden probably is an answer,
because Jacob Lawrence I think, I think, actually, did I
meet Jacob Lawrence.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
I'm gonna say Jake Lawrence.

Speaker 7 (06:17):
Okay, Well, you're more correct on that second choice. It
was Bearden, okay, wow.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Bed.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
Fifteen years before Jackie Robinson, Bearden was playing in the
Negro Leagues and the owner of the Philadelphia Athletics approached
him to play for them, but he had to pass
and he declined it.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
I'm busy paint and I don't have time to travel
around with y'all.

Speaker 7 (06:39):
Well, well, he didn't want to pass as being white
because he was so light skinned. They wanted him to
pass as being white passed. Wow, right, They wanted him
to pass pass and he declined.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
Isn't it man?

Speaker 5 (06:50):
I tell you what, Carl. You know, you see all
these history moments and all these stories. It's amazing how
far we've come. But at the same time, I think
the trick in America, the thing they got right, was
they miseducated all of us. So most people don't understand
most black people don't understand the power. And by not teaching,

(07:13):
you know, the information, everybody is jacked up because of it.
You know, I think you know, you know how it is.
So if you don't know your if you don't know
your power, you don't know your history, you don't know
the truth, then you really are just floundering. And so
that's the part it's interesting about the racial conversation that
people never talk about is white people also are pained

(07:36):
or put in a terrible position as a human when
you don't know the truth and you've been taught lies
your whole life, the moment of finding things out is
it must be pretty uh pretty crazy, you know, just
like you know, just like how horrific is when we
find out like things exactly from us and decisions people
had to make and and just think they have to

(07:57):
deny yourself to striving us society must be crazy.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
Exactly, or be told to do something just so you
could be accepted. That really is against your whole moral will.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
I had an epiphany as I was mopping the kitchen,
mop in the kitchen, and we're living Withesda, and so
you know, we still you look out the window, you
still see people of color of all colors as nannies
or as.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
As housekeepers or as people maintain, and you get it.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Like I was mopping the kitchen and I was looking around,
and what hit me, Carl, though, was like those of
us who've been raised a certain way for Big Mama,
most of us were raised with Saturday or Sunday mornings
was made for cleaning the house, yep, and all those
things that come with it. We had those uncles who
worked on cars and fixed cars, and who I talk about, Carl,

(08:46):
was a lot of that, sadly, was an extension of
the lives that former enslaved had to live, and so
a lot of it. To have somebody stand over you
and watch you clean that kitchen and that our parents
ended up doing it was interesting because that's direct, just
you know, and that's why when you talk about you know,
classiesm you know, in the Bethesas of the world, the

(09:09):
white folks who did not live in the upscale communities,
who lived in who were poor, they weren't inside the
house necessarily. A lot of black folks were, so they
brought home with them all those things that are in
expensive homes and all those ideas that people who have
wealth have right. And so I saw this take on

(09:29):
the Joe Butden podcast and it kind of pissed me
off because they were teasing the female hosts because she's
biracial and they were trying to prove that she wasn't black.
And they said, oh, so where do you keep your forks?
And coming up where you keep your force? She said, oh,
you mean the cutlery and they were like, ah, you white,
see you say cutlery. I thought about my grandmother, I
thought about my people.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Carl.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
I was like, we said couloring no, because most of
the black folks worked in the households that had cutlery
or had utility closets or utility you know what I mean,
just like crystal, Like every black home back with a
certain group of black folks, everybody had crystal. Everybody had
you know the silver that was a big part of

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your grandma had silver that she got.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
From this so and so, and it was just interesting
all of this, you know.

Speaker 7 (10:16):
And that's where I mean, if you think about it,
one of the one of my favorite movies, Coolly High.
I don't know if you remember the house party when
they break the breakfront.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
The breakfront. Now what you're doing now.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
You know?

Speaker 7 (10:25):
And now these a lot of these younger people don't
even know what a breakfront is. If I said breakfront,
they be calling me bougie. And that was in the
middle of Chicago, exactly.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Everybody had that.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Everybody had that and every and then even like you
think about, like you know, black people in Cadillacts, well
most of the time. Imagine you know, you you spent
your whole life driving a Cadillac for your boss. So
now when you retire, m hmm, I'm gonna give me
a cad b Act that I own.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
It's mine, you know.

Speaker 7 (10:53):
That's there's a there is a marketing video, I want
to say, from the sixties that talks about just about
targeting the African American customer. And they were talking about, oh,
do not show them cheap stuff because they want quality.
They're willing to pay for the quality that they like
brand names Cadillac. It's like so it was like there

(11:15):
and but it's basically what you just said. You my
grandmother was a My grandmother was a domestic person. But
you know, when you went to their house, she said cutlery,
or she said the glass wear, or she said this,
and it was special and you know, and that's and
they picked it up and brought it back home. So
but when you're when you're when you're raised in just
the whole little certain you know, even this little grouping,

(11:37):
and you never leave Northeast d C. You don't see
that as might.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
Right, And so the queen has arrived.

Speaker 7 (11:47):
I got the whole screen. All right, you're gonna get
me back.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Mark.

Speaker 7 (11:54):
I took over your whole screen, so I don't want
to take over your show. Where'd you go? Okay? So
I'm Carl with a K, the Black Trivia Guy. This
is the Alison and Mark Clark podcast, Married in Media.
They will be back. They are backs.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Carl reminds me like when they gave you the microphone,
and like here you go.

Speaker 8 (12:18):
You're like okay, hey, but hey, hey hey everybody, look
I have been so tired.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I had to get ten minutes of a nap.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Oh good, tired of Mark Clark, No Carl.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
With a k. Hey, it's so funny that I would
come in though.

Speaker 8 (12:32):
When you were talking about I think you were talking
you said some about Cadillacs and black folks. So I'm
reading this book, Aladimy of Souls. I think that's the
name of it. And it's by the author David Baldacci.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
I believe.

Speaker 7 (12:48):
Okay, he writes miss Murder Mysteries.

Speaker 8 (12:50):
I would like to right, Okay, so he's I'm actually
on a panel doing a Q and A with him.
Oh yeah, Alice book tomorrow at the Alexandria Public Library,
because you know, the Alexandria Public Library was the scene
of a really famous around these parts sit it and
this is basically in celebration of that whole period of time.

(13:15):
And his book is about it's about a young lawyer
who's defending a basically a black couple who worked for
an elderly white couple and they're accused of killing the
elderly white couple. Right, first of all, it's very hard
to listen to this book. But I'm coming in on Cadillacs.
Because the young lawyer who's with the Legal Defense Fund,

(13:36):
who comes in to help the young white lawyer in
that part of Virginia, she's explaining, and you can fact
just check this with me, that black folks bought big,
fast cars back then because often you would have to
drive those twenty hours straight so you wouldn't get caught
in sundown towns.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (13:58):
And sometimes if you had to sleep in your car,
and sometimes if you had to out run some angry
folks who didn't want you in a town after a
certain time, right, and that's including the police. So you'd
get so that whole Cadillac thing that he's sort of
get that stereotype, you know, black folks and the Cadillacs,

(14:20):
and that whole thing she broke.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
He broke it down.

Speaker 8 (14:24):
David Baldacci, who is and this is loosely based I
think on his experience as a young man, takes place
in nineteen sixty eight somewhere in Virginia, and I thought
it was just so fascinating because I never knew and
I'm pretty sure that that's going to be and again,
fact check me, but I'm pretty sure that's going to
be factual.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Because they talk a lot about that.

Speaker 8 (14:46):
He inter has interwoven a lot of historical facts what
was going on in the country, in this part of
the country in Virginia, And I'm not.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Exactly what part. I forget what county.

Speaker 8 (15:01):
It was like ten it was in nineteen sixty eight,
so that would have been eleven years after Brown v Board, right,
And they still had the segregated schools, so like end
up the nap and other whatever they were going in
and making sure that these schools were integrated because people
were like, the federal government can say what they want
around here, we're doing it the same way. So literally

(15:24):
they're still pulling down colored you know, colored entrance white only.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
And it's about this this legal thriller.

Speaker 8 (15:33):
But when when I heard you say something about Cadillacs,
I never put together the history that if you had
two kids and you had to go from New York
down to see your people in Louisiana, you.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Had to keep driving sometimes, and so.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
It talks about a lot of people dying on the
roads because of fatigue or what have you.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
And I just thought that was so interesting.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
I remember my father used to drive from Jersey to
South Carolina and it was a the Sheraton Hotel, and
Fredericksburg would at that time start taking black people and
every it took me years not to drive past that
Fredericksburg Sheraton because I was like, no, I got to
stop here to eat, because that's.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
What that's you know, that's real and it's interesting, you know,
speaking of cars. One of something that always fascinated me
was musically was was Chuck Berry and one of my
favorite songs, uh you know he so basically you know
how we always kind of and what's up, Brandy, Brandy's

(16:40):
in the building, Brandy's brand. I love it.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
We do our black conversations. I love Brandy is like
I'm here.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
But you know, we talk about I think stereotypes a lot,
and we talk about, you know how the Beach Boys
always talk about how the Beach Boys did all these
car songs right, And I think even even black folks
sometimes be like, well, you know, white guys are in
the cars. Black guys aren't. But Chuck Barry was all
up in the cars and his like a string of
his first records were about cars. And the funny part

(17:10):
about it is in one of the songs he talks
about what he wants in his car, and of course
it's cat like he wants a phone, he wants a television, wants.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
A bed, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
He went nineteen fifty, like nineteen fifty two, like so
like futuristic. You know, he wanted a satellite in his
car for his television. He's just like yo, all this
stuff came true and he was that guy. And so
then here come the Beach Boys and they have all
these string of the car songs and people talk about,
you know, cars, fast food and all this kind of

(17:46):
stuff because that's when people started to travel, and so
fast food restaurants in the cars and all that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Away back to Carl with.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
The k's two points and what you're talking about, just
two quick things on the Chuck Berry thing, you know that, Uh,
he sued and won against the Beach Boys for they
stole one of his songs, I want to say Sweet
sixteen for one of their songs. He won that lawsuit
also with trump Berry and this thing with his car,
with his cars, he didn't stay in the hotels. He

(18:13):
wanted to keep all his money so he would stay
in it. That's probably why he wanted all that stuff
in his cars because.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
He stayed good. And he also well he collected Cadillacs.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
He had like you know, we Alis and I met
in Saint Louis, but you know, he lived in Saint
Louis and he had like a whole garage full of Cadillacts,
like from all those years.

Speaker 7 (18:31):
So got you all right? So number two we all know.
Thirdgood Marshall and he attended Howard University Law School after
being denied interests into what law school was it? Georgetown,
University of Maryland or University of Virginia.

Speaker 8 (18:50):
Well, I don't know this answer, but I know that
he is from Baltimore. So I'm going to say University
of Maryland.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
Okay, and I'm going to say University of Virginia. I
would say, go with your wife, University of Maryland. And
the ironic thing is, in nineteen thirty five, he and
the NAACP won a lawsuit against the University of Maryland
on racial discrimination in their law school.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
He's like, I'll be back and I'm going to justify.

Speaker 8 (19:18):
Speaking of the legal defense funding all of that. I
think that he should be required reading. As far as
going before the Supreme Court and how he helped to sparehead.
So many important changes in America.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
I mean, everybody knows the Brown versus education, but there
were so many other cases.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
They were just rocking through America, just winning cases. Yeah,
and I think Carl you probably know the fact. But
you know, he was being credited with saying this. I
think he may not have said it, but but if
he didn't say it, we still stand on it.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
About Clarence Thomas, a black snake is still a snake.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
Oh. I don't know if he said it about him,
but it would be apropos would be approp well, I
mean even I think I think they're like justices just
turning over in their grades seeing what the Supreme Court
is like.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
Now, I mean it's a joke.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 7 (20:10):
There was a time there was a standard last but
not least in what year did apartheid end in South Africa?

Speaker 5 (20:18):
Baby's got the T shirt? Been there done there? Saw
that got the T shirt? That was babies in college?
Remember baby, baby, you're older than me?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Okay, what are.

Speaker 7 (20:31):
So it's nineteen ninety, nineteen ninety four or nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
That's so crazy. I thought it was earlier. Actually you
would think.

Speaker 7 (20:38):
That, But that's when a lot of the protests were
going on, protesting heavy in the eighties, in heavy in
the eighties.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
I had in South Africa.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
I have not I have been to South Africa and Allison,
they said I would be. We were. We did a
big FAMI money show broadcast in South Africa. So we're
all sitting around, you know, talking politics and talking and stuff,
and so it's going around the table and he said,
where will you be? Where would we be from? So
sadly will Troy said he would be from He would

(21:07):
be a South You would be a South African colored
right you pointed in the marble's like you would be
from here. You would be from here, he said, you
would be a you Ivory coast, he said, I'd be
from the Ivory Coast.

Speaker 7 (21:25):
You'd be from Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Now, now that the selling is over, what year was
apartheid and.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
What are the choices against her?

Speaker 7 (21:30):
Nineteen nineteen ninety, nineteen ninety four or nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Ninety four.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
That sounds a right, right, because we went in like
two thousand, so that is correct.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
There was nineteen ninety four. Thirty years ago. April twenty
seventh was the first democratic election, which formally ended a
part the apartheid system.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Right A hundred dollars, Carl.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
Oh so, Carl, before we let you go with at,
it's been thirty years, right, So let me think from
nineteen sixty five to the So, how do you see
if America is any sort of yardstick?

Speaker 8 (22:15):
How do you see equality playing out in South Africa?
Because I always say that for us in the eighties
and the nineties two, but especially like that eighties, that
sweet spot after like twenty years after the civil rights
legislation that I honestly.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Growing up, I think I had a i'll say better
time or a less.

Speaker 8 (22:42):
Racial or racist encounter time when I was a teenager
versus my daughters now when they were when they were teenagers.
So I always say that was the sweet spot, like
twenty years later or so, you know, how would you
see that playing out as a student of history, and
how would you see that playing out?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Do you think they're still on that path?

Speaker 8 (23:03):
Because in the same book they talked about reconstruction and
how it was quickly torn down and what a great
greater because I you know, because I love my country,
so a greater country this could have been had we
stayed on the path of reconstruction and had had had

(23:25):
the government not caved to the you know, the southern politicstocrats,
I think that we.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Would have been rolling.

Speaker 8 (23:34):
But somebody, somebody else had a plan to keep us divided.
But but how, but how do you think it's going
to play out in South Africa Because it seems like
they're doing well so far.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
I think they're I think they're probably in that sweet
spot right now. But I've been hearing rumblings and and
and things, because what ends up happening is what's happening here.
We have we have a about I don't know forget.
It was maybe about twenty years ago. I got into
an discussion with somebody and I said, I have not
experienced the racism that my father had.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Growing up that you have now.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
But today, twenty twenty four, I can now say I
have experienced the racism my father had. Now I don't
know if I still have that fear of will I
come home alive? They that they did. But I'm starting
to see things that people are saying and things like that,
And I think because we've had that generation that never

(24:32):
had any experience, like I said, I was saying, it's
not that racist. It's racist still, but it's not as
bad as my father.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Yes it was us.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
Wait, but the children at that time when I was
making that comment are now the adults and so the
white kids, and they are now starting to act like
their grandparents.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Oh yeah, and so South Africa was interesting. Did we
did the show?

Speaker 5 (24:57):
So he said, ninety four was the end of a
part time right, we come in two years in a row.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
We did South Africa and.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
We were basically the first urban black radio shows as
urban was created. Again. Yeah, black radio shows. It was
across the country. The Department, I mean the Tourism department
funded this as a way to invite black radio stations
over to South Africa's inviting Black Americans to come come

(25:26):
here and safe. The funny part was this was six
years after apartheid and you saw the ripples of See.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
I think at the end of the day.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
When you talk about racism, you can't take people who've
been conditioned and thought and educated a certain way about
people and changed their minds, right, and so.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
The interesting I think you can change people's hearts.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Well I do.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
I think I'm sorry. This same book talks about George Wallace.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
George Wallace is running for president at this time, and
this is clearly before he gets shot in Law, Maryland.
He has a change of heart and he becomes a
much different person.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Whether you want to believe it.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Or not, Norman, were you Are you a different person
or politic?

Speaker 6 (26:11):
Your politics? Your politically?

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I feel like people can change your hearts.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Well, I'm not saying that people can't, but what I
mean is the overall feeling of people, because it's also deep.
It's like religion, it's really it really is just religion.
So South Africa was interesting and I look back at it,
the people, and you know, in a society you have people.
You have some people who are hardcore realists, right, so
you get in the cat drag cab drivers are kind of.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
Like, we can take the temperature.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Right.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
So you had the colors who would say we are
still second class citizens because when the whites win power,
we're second class citizens. Now there's the blacks in power
for cercond class citizens, right, and this is the humble
this is the honest, their honest take. Then you had
the people who are to go along, get along, people
who are almost like, isn't this great?

Speaker 6 (26:57):
It's amazing, And you had the people, like the political.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
People who were mad at Mandela, because you know, you
talk about the beers, you talk about all of the
companies that controlled South Africa, American interest American interests, it's
still the same, right, And so what happened was ten
years after, twenty years after the ripples were the people

(27:24):
were basically saying, we want to take these farms from
the white folks because they they got them. Hiven that
it's the whole thing. So it's it's kind of like sadly,
that's what I mean. I think at the end of
the day, when you take people don't it's like it's
it's it's deep when you start talking.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
It's money and politics.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
And humanity or lack of lack thereof. If you if
you've been raised to believe somebody is less than a human,
it's hard to turn them into a human. It's like again,
if our animals became people, we would like we'd fight it.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
And I think sometimes you know, it's.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
You know, it's just it's just it's very it's very
interesting and and I think both both places are very interesting.
And lastly, uh, we were at a party and some
older gentlemen who were in their seventies. They were the
first generation of corporate people. And one one guy worked
in South Africa and he was saying that when apartheid

(28:21):
was going on, United States and he worked for you know,
a company, I don't name the company, but the United
States okayed them bringing in the kind of gas you
used for flamethrowers in case an uprising happened. And this
is it's it's an illegal, it's illegal, it's military grade.

(28:45):
It's not it's against everything you believe in. If the
if they if the blacks rebelled, they had the permission
to use it, and it was supplied by the US right,
and so soon as it changed power, he said, he
witnessed them taking an afric country. Like kind of speaks

(29:05):
to how America is complicit in the mostly situations too,
because it's political, it's money, it's whatever.

Speaker 7 (29:10):
So right, I mean, it's just you know, the the well,
the top of the line is the money.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
It's the money. Like look at look at the Beers,
a diamond company in South Africa. It would have been
great if Mandela could say to those companies that for
all those years had had free work, free and underpaid labor.
You have ten years to train black workers. You come
into your company in the management level and all the above,

(29:37):
and then after ten years you got to leave. But
that would not be endorsed by the United States, or
by France or by whoever.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
Oh yeah, I just I've just been learning about how
how France's involvement in Africa. I didn't realize how how
dependent they were on African everything. Yeah, yeah, so, but
listen to some of those speakers.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
So, Karl with a K, you got a busy night.
Don't don't get hung up here with us now.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
Not the problem. I love being here with you guys.
It kind of makes me makes me think before I go.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Drink, have a drink for us.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
All right, you guys, have a great evening. Thanks a lot.
Don't forget. You can check out my live stream on
Mondays at seven on the Black Trivia Network channel. You
can see me on Facebook at Black Trivia Network and
on Instagram's Black Trivia and they can follow me there.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Good job, Carl, Carl with a K. Do you get
about it when you know Carl's famous? Don't forget we
had them first. Awesome, So, babe, the good news, good
news and bad news. I don't have the video selections
that I always have. You have the topics though we
can talk about, but I just don't have the video.
So Caitlin Clark I have first up there. I'm gonna
start with Kaitlin Clark.

Speaker 8 (30:46):
I do, but I also want to say how to
everybody who is with us right now and open or
open yeah there for the Alison Work podcast. And I
see so many familiar faces that I love and hear
shout out to my Brandy who Brandon, I hope you
don't mind.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I'm going to do so. Brandy and I have now
moved to our conversations texting.

Speaker 8 (31:07):
We're texting friends, so sooner we'll be phone calls and
then we'll just be.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Saint Mary's to Montgomery County. But you know, she just dropped.

Speaker 8 (31:17):
We were talking about like how arts can change and
all of that, because I do believe.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
I don't beieve that. I don't believe they can't change.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
I'm just saying, as a whole society and a capitalist society,
their factors that drive prejudice and race situation, that it's
not even about the person, it's about the system.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
But I think reading this book is really opening my
eyes a lot to putting sometimes when you reading, we
watch shows, we're on a phone all the time now,
but seeing things from through a different lens is very interesting.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
And although it's hard to listen to in this book
that I'm trying.

Speaker 8 (31:53):
To finish reading before tomorrow, you can see sort of
some of the mindset that this in this small Virginia
town some of the white residents had at that time
when the uh it was right after King is shot
in RFK is shot, and some of the sentiment from

(32:14):
like the fear that you're taking you're gonna take my
country away and you were never meant to be a
full citizen talking about you know, black neighbors or people there.
And so Brandy, I see you in the chat just
saying that, you know, if you don't know, Brandy is
my sister from another mister, and we happened to be

(32:35):
very similar in a lot of ways, but one big thing. Okay,
maybe we're different races. Okay, anyway, So she's saying that
in her family that there are people with those racist
views and that she's fought against that, and I know
it probably wasn't easy in those moments, but so but
it's Brandon, I'm sorry I'm not putting you on the spot,
but there are people with these.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Big hearts, right, and it's the breakthrough. And I think
that that's just how it happens.

Speaker 8 (33:01):
And it's just constantly being in family spaces as long
as you can or as much as you feel like it,
because it's exhausting and saying, well, you know, do you
know anybody who's black?

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Do you know anybody who's Hispanic, Asian? Whatever? That's not you?
And vice versa, all of it, right, So, I don't know,
I have hope for that.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
And Brandy, thank you for being so transparent and loving
and open like you always are. So you can see
Brandy's comments in the chat there.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
I think, to be honest, the part about and you're right,
I think.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
We all are. I don't know. People say products of
your environment or products of your philosophy, and I just
just it's a very I don't know. I don't know
where it comes from. Where when we talk about a heart, right,
when we have a heart, you talk about love and
empathy for if you have it for a pet, if

(33:56):
you have it for an animal, if you have it
for nature.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
Don't have it for a human being. It's weird.

Speaker 8 (34:02):
Well, this is last time I say about this book,
and then we can move on. Last one gonna say
about this book, Calamity of Souls. Here's the thing in
this in the same story, it's so funny that you
would say that this author talks about They go to
this house because they're interviewing witnesses again, Calamity of Souls.
It's a it's a it's a legal thriller, said in

(34:23):
nineteen sixty eight. And somewhere in rural Virginia and there Richmond,
and they go to this guy's house to get testimony,
a young white lawyer and a young black woman lawyer
from the Legal Defense Fund. Guy knocks on the door.
He is he does, he does not let this black
woman in his house on his porch any of it.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
A dog rushes to the door.

Speaker 8 (34:41):
He literally kicks the dog out of the house and
then goes down and kicks it again, and he can't
get up. So he's like, now I'm gonna have Now,
I'm gonna have to you know you're no good to me.
Now I'm gonna have to get rid of you. He
pulls a shotgun out. Yeah, and so right, so the
two lawyers said, will buy the dog. Don't we'll buy

(35:02):
the dog, so they may take the dog away. So
it's humanity. So you're right, it's that same.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
If you don't have humanity, you've.

Speaker 8 (35:08):
Got to be better than other things around you, other
people around you.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
So I mean, I hear you, yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
Because I think that's I think that's what racist.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
But it's interesting that viewpoint.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
Racists don't understand that that humanity. So I think this
is what I think happens with racist If they were enslaved,
if they were a slave, if they were treated if
I if I or or sexist, if I was a
woman and I got punched in the face, then I
would hate men. So probably women probably hate me because

(35:40):
I'm a because I'm a sexist and I used to
beat my wife, which.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
Probably hates me.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
So I think that's how they move through life, you
know what I mean, and not understanding no, that person
is different than you and doesn't think the way you do.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
Like So I think a lot of white people are racist.
It's fear because.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
They feel like one day a black guy's gonna punch
them in the face because of all the things that
happened to your race. But they don't understand that when
you have humanity, that's not how you, that's not something
that's even on your mind. I don't think about I'm
not thinking about getting back at you. I don't because
I wasn't raised that way.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
I'm I'm You're a human. I'm a human.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
I'm giving you a chance unless you give me a
reason not to give you a chance. Yeah, except the
ones who's been tainted by their family, all right, Caitlyn Clark,
Caitlyn Clark in this, I have a I have an
epiphany on Clayland Clark conversation. Now for those now, we

(36:33):
do this a lot, but I don't think we have to.
People know what's seen in Kaitlyn Clark situation. There's a couple,
but there's a lot of dynamics going on with it.
Right Basically the recent one of the one that got
all the cop coverage was and I thought it was
interesting the referee did not call a foul when she
should have.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
So I think that was a that's a that's a
question mark actually for me.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
When I heard the story, then Allison and I are
at the gym and we see it if the player
is not around the ball, not going for the ball,
the ball's not even in play and you go up
and crack them.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
That's called a flagrant foul.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
Even if you're not in sports, I think you can
understand what right a flagrant one. It's almost like, yeah,
it's like a flagrant one. There's less than a flagrant two,
which is like outrageous. So a flagrant one is you
know that wrong? That's what it stands for. Flagrant one,
you know that wrong.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
So Caitlyn was.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Standing there and got bam, you know, she got checked,
and the ref didn't call it. She didn't call it
flagrant one. And so for me that was the part
I heard the conversations. I just kind of saw it
in passing, and for me it was like, why wouldn't
the referee call this flagrant one? You know, before it
evolved into everything it's turned into. Right, then the next day,

(37:52):
it was a day of two days anyway, they then
declared it to be a flagrant one. Right, So then
the other Once that's one side, the other side is, oh,
she gets preferential treatment. They're making her the great White hope,
they're making her the great star. What's funny about the
conversation with the sports and everybody else They take they're
taking race out of it, but race is a big

(38:12):
player in it, you know what I mean. It's almost
like we're talking in circles. We're not talking truth. The
fact is a league that is predominantly black and gay,
black gay women. W NBA has now a star who
I don't know her sexuality, but she's white and everybody's

(38:37):
going crazy, right and so, but people don't even talk
about it. They don't really say it. They just kind
of like, you know, they be like, oh, oh, but yeah,
that's a factor, right, it's a factor. A young white girl.
Little white girls now want to play in the WNBA.
Little white girls now want to be Caitlyn Clark. And
who is she. She's like a She's like a female

(38:57):
Steph Curry. Her innovation is the three pointer. And what
cures me is people are like, oh, all, she got
a three pointer. Hell yeah, that's what it is. So
just think about it, a smoking three pointer, just like
Steph Curry. Because in a land of giants, you can't
you know, it's hard, you can't really maneuver unless you
got something different. And when she got different, it's a

(39:19):
three pointer. And the beauty of it is marketing wise,
it's a dream. I want. Everybody wants a piece of
this business. And now you saw ANDREWI said, you know,
it's not just her, it's us. It is a combination
because this season, the girls, the women's collegiate sports was

(39:40):
off the chain because you had multiple great players. So
to me, what's interesting is it's not about great playing.
It's not about that people be like, what about sheriff soups,
what about so and so?

Speaker 6 (39:50):
What about so and so.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
There's never been in any point in w NBA time
where the sport has had this must coverage worldwide Marriot.
That's not opinion, that's a fact. When you look at
Caitlin Clark's game, I just saw it the other day.
When she's playing, you know, when she's not playing, they
did a thing on the weekends tendants around seventy five hundred,

(40:14):
forty five hundred. When she's playing, it's seventeen thousand plus sold.
So that's what it's really about. This is like Larry
Bird and Magic Johnson. The same thing that happened in
the NBA back then the WNBA, the tennants was down.
They weren't watching it. It was why because they thought
it was too violent. It was black guys not People
were not looking at it like they were. The Larry

(40:35):
Bird magic Johnson College rivalry, much like the Caitlyn rees
and all the arrest.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
In College Johnson.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
Yeah, all that. It brought people to the game. It
brought It saved the NBA. Larry Bird saved the NBA.
What did he have? He was white and he could
play his ass off. Caitland Clark more like Steph Curry
to me, could you play her ass off? She's a
great basketball player, but she's a great three point shooter,

(41:06):
and that's what That's what's putting seats booties and seats long.

Speaker 8 (41:12):
You know, look, I'm excited about you want to get
Brandy's because what we do.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I an't need to drink though, I'm excited about it.

Speaker 8 (41:20):
As a former basketball player in my soundar that's right,
I can relate to Caitlin Clark because I too was
hard checked for no reason by Alberta Grimes the grade
when we played basketball.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
You know what else they did it too. They did
it to Michael Jordan's. Michael Jordan's this is a part.
So my point is with old people, when old players players.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
What's your point?

Speaker 8 (41:52):
Because about the hard check in the foul, so you're
saying that was wrong.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Here's my point for the NBA with the magic here's
my point.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
My point is this, I think all factors of the
WNBA feel a certain way about this girl who's getting
all this damn attention because, like you said, it wasn't
a player, didn't make the call, was arrested to make
the call, so reff, what are you doing? And so
I think the end, you know, it's almost like again

(42:23):
when that happens, the new pretty news anchor comes in
who can't read like Alison Simour andin't never done a
damn thing when they come in and now they're put
on Front Street and all the other anchors are like, man,
who she I'm a damn legend in this piece. I
think the sport is adjusting to and what the irony

(42:44):
of it all is. She's bringing money to y'all. Y'all
make twenty five thousand.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Years, So okay, so you're railing against.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
The vest the WNBA.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
Y'all need to put your big girl pants on and
go ahead and just accept it. Be excited because yeah,
because nobody's checking for the WNBA.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
People don't like the fact.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
She was also called the name I'm saying after it.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
Yeah, yeah, you get called names. It's called sports. Get
called names all the time. People get called punch from
the face all time. My point is the w NBA
needs to embrace this moment and not be jealous, not.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Talking about the other players, the.

Speaker 6 (43:22):
Whole league, the league.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Think the league is excited.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
I'm talking when I say the league, So the referee,
the referees, and the players. Yes, because it ain't about
Yeah you, I'm just as good as her. Yes, you
are just as good as her. But you were here
two years ago. Ain't nobody come to the game. Okay,
you were here for ten years. Nobody came to the
game women, same thing women are talking about on Steve
because you've got Stephen. Stephen A. Smith got dogged out

(43:49):
by the female co host because she basically pointing out,
you don't be talking about WNBA, right because ain't nobody
watching the WNBA. Nobody cares. People don't watch it. Women
don't watch it. Ladies, where y'all at?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Why? Right?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Well?

Speaker 5 (44:03):
Because it ain't interesting. See that's hard to hear. But
the proof is in the proof. Let me just saying
this is the same the saying is Actually the proof
of the pudding is in the tasting. That's the whole thing.
Most of the time we say the proof is in
the what. But anyway, the proof of the pudding is
in the tasting. Ain't nobody wasn't nobody tasting. Nobody was

(44:24):
tasting WNBA. They're like, I pass even the women. Hey girl, Hey,
we got some tickets the WNBA. You won't go.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
No, I'm good now, I was just checking.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
I call my man who sells riders at the where
the w n b A plays, the small arena. I
call him, Hey, man, is this Uh, it's Caitlin Clark
thing crazy.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
You're gonna be packed.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
He's like, packed, they're a mood, did you Yeah? He moved.
They didn't moved it. And then Wallace is right, where
are the teammates? She got hard checked and nobody did
a damn thing. And in the NBA you beat up
my girl, you're beating your ass. It was like, oh, well,
hate hate hate hey, hate hate Hey.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
She'll prove I'm wrong. Just give her.

Speaker 8 (45:11):
You know, as far as I saw, she wasn't. I'm
sure she was complanning to her in her inner circle.
But it's unless it's changed. She was like, it's the game.
So yeah, they should have called the foul.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
It's the game.

Speaker 8 (45:24):
And so I like her attitude as far as it goes.
And she's definitely bringing people into the arena. It started
she was in school and so yeah, now all we
need to do is get some you know, raise that
pay a little bit, get some, get some more, some
some equity when it comes to uh, these this top
tier level of female athletes in the in the NBA.

(45:46):
Because the NBA is over the w n b A,
maybe that's episode.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Maybe it should be.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
So let's break down. Let's break down the business. The
w n b A was how the NBA washed its money. Okay,
when you're a loss leader, that's where you put you
put your money over here to justify losing your money.
Like Sandra said, this is something else too, sounder that
doesn't get talked about. Sondra said, the whole draft selection
made me have me watching, not just Caitlin Clark. You're
absolutely right, there's two worlds here. There's two things happening here.

(46:16):
The rees your girl from Baltimore, Angel Reese, and your
girl's on her team with her. Absolutely absolutely, Sondra, there
are black people. I'm not only make it racial, but
let's keep real. A lot of people, Angel Reese was
a star in college, and a lot of her girls
were stars in college. Right, So you're absolutely right. It's

(46:38):
like two different worlds. I heard an announcer made a
great point about Angel ree She said, oh, she cried,
she cries too much to have so much. He just
da dad.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
But this caller in DC, God bless Washington, d C.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
This caller has such a great point saying to the
white host that Angel Reese complaining for just complaining, that's
not it. Angel Reese is being harassed by racist So
she is complaining and expressing that. And so don't get
it twisted with who she's pointing it to is not
towards people who are Caitlyn Cayten Clark fans. Necessarily, she's

(47:13):
talking about those racist people who've given her death threats,
death threats for being a star in basketball or going
up against Caitlyn Clark. Because the race dynamics in America,
it is what it is, and it's always going to
be there.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
And so it was great to hear a caller and.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
You know, color like put that perspective, because that's actually true,
and if you're a wide announcer, you may not know
that perspective, you know, because the reality is the Reese
is a sexier. When I say sexier, I'm not talking
about next sexier. I'm talking about She's a fashion icon.
She was invited to the Matt Dala. Her brand is

(47:53):
glamor glamour, right, Caitlyn Clark's brand is not glamour.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
She's like little girls. It reminds me of sock her moms.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
It reminded me of that same crowd, a little soccer girl,
soccer momb So there's a there's a couple of things
going on here, you know, but it all comes back
to money. They want these kids, they want these kids
selling shoes, selling clothes, selling whatever.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
So the good news is all of this, Thank God.

Speaker 8 (48:15):
For shoes because at least she can make some money
in the w n B A. Yes, the salary and
all endorsements, and.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
Shack signed Reese to a deal with Reebok, but she
now is the president of where he now owns whatever.
So yeah, it's a there's a couple, there's a couple
of dynamics going through this though. It's not just not
just the basketball and it's not just race, and it's
not just play. It's all those factors. But all we
know is that she coming to town Friday and it's
sold out. When's the last time a sol it was

(48:43):
a sold out game here with the w N B A.

Speaker 6 (48:46):
I can't tell you. I cannot tell you.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
All right, you got your wheaties today, my man?

Speaker 5 (48:55):
You know what I'm on this diet, I'll tell you
about it. Okay, So god a die, you know, baby,
cut off the sugar, so my sugar levels steady is
not like up and down?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (49:06):
I Trump guilty. Let me just say this about Trump Bia?

Speaker 3 (49:10):
How long this is? Did we go on last week?
All right? When did that happen?

Speaker 6 (49:14):
What that just happened?

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Trump? The now one hunter? Biden's on? Now we got
an whole another trial.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
No, no, I have something of us say about Trump guilty.
Let me tell you something. Trump hate him, which most
of us do. I can't say I hate him because
I'm a I mean personality on television news. But this
this mother sucker here, let me tell you something. Trump,
he know what he be doing. Two moments happened that

(49:43):
made me be like this guy, so.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Like P T Barnum is a marketing genius.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
He's a marketing gene when he came when you know,
found him guilty on all those counts, and so I'm
not I didn't post this because Baby was like, Baby,
can't post this. Why was I laughing out of my
mind when every ca I mean, I don't know why.
It was a comical, babe, It just felt comical. Guilty guilty, guilty, guilty,
And I might I might post it and cut out

(50:12):
the audio because I don't anybody be implicated. But I
was laughing my heart out. But it was, it was,
it was, it was. It was interesting. But I couldn't
wait to see what he was gonna do, right, and
he did what we knew he was gonna do. It
was like a movie. It was like a movie. He
came out that court room. Now he knew, Okay, I'm

(50:33):
gonna have to have to look like I'm really mad,
you know, I'm gonna have to ignite my base. He
comes out of that court room, eyes all squinny, you know.
And the thing about him is he's what six' forour
He's a big guy. He's this big, blond hair, blue eyed, symbol.

Speaker 6 (50:49):
Of symbol of.

Speaker 8 (50:56):
I don't know, but you better choose a careful He's
a symbol of he's.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Making America great again.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
He's a making America great say that right, good, good
job baby. And so now the judge just told him, look, hey,
shut up, shut up, you're going to jail. Hence, judge,
he goes in on the judge. He's basically telling his crowd,
I'm angry. It was like a movie, like a script
out of the movie. You knew he was gonna do this.

(51:23):
He was gonna say something to get his people fired up.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Biden.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
This is Biden's fault. It has nothing to do with
Joe Biden. The judge. He appointed the judge.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
Of New York. He appointed the judge, and Joe Biden
had nothing to do with it. But he just went
on this rant. This just was a whistle to all
his people. And I'd be doggone if they didn't break
his website, tripling his money and breaking the website. They
were so yeah, you're right, you know. And then that
was the first play. The second play that he did.

(51:57):
Julius City's a symbol of racism. Yeah, thank you. I
didn't say that. Julie did. The second thing he did
that was brilliant was on Fox News when they were like.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
I thought he didn't like Fox News anymore.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
Right, when he goes back and they're like, well, you know,
you know, the chance is the possibility that you could
be heading for tading to jail. And he told, he said,
I'll go. I told, I told my lawyers. I told
my lawyers not too beg So if I have to go,

(52:32):
I'll go.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Now.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
I don't think I don't think they're allowed it. I
don't think my followers were allowed. So again dog whistle followers,
So dog whistle, I'm I'm strong, I ain't afraid of jail.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
I'll go.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
And then I told my lawyers not too big. All
this is like a script.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
You can't even write my followers. Remind me of January six.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
You can't write exactly. You can't write this like that mind.
That's a jaded that's a jaded mind.

Speaker 8 (52:59):
First debate between Trump and Biden is June twenty seventh.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Should be very interesting.

Speaker 8 (53:06):
I think the battle lines are drawn.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
You're going to vote how you vote? Yeah, are you're
going to vote along your party lines?

Speaker 8 (53:14):
The Republicans in the chat, are you voting along your
party lines? Regardless of the fact that, yes, now you
have a convicted felling as your candidate Democrats, you're going
to vote for no Joe Biden Democrats.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
As a lifelong Democrat. We're a sorry bunch.

Speaker 8 (53:34):
So okay, I'm asking the folks in the you know,
I'm asking the folks or what do you think were
people that you talk to?

Speaker 6 (53:41):
We're a sorry bunch because this was gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
He's going to have the biggest voter turnout he's ever had, period, period,
and we.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
Will still have people like, oh is that today?

Speaker 3 (53:53):
It rained?

Speaker 5 (53:54):
You know? We are We don't.

Speaker 6 (53:56):
That's one thing about the Republican trumpets.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
They don't vote.

Speaker 6 (54:00):
Okay, they're gonna vote now Democrats.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
I'm gonna make a prediction right now.

Speaker 8 (54:05):
I do not think that he will be successful in
this next go round on November, in the November general election.
I feel like we started talking about I came in
late today, but we were talking about the hearts of people,
and I think that you know, you're gonna have some
business people or whatever whoever else, people who feel strongly
about different matters, who are just like the Bravado or

(54:28):
like whatever, who feel like they got a stimulus check
back in two thousand and you know, nineteen or whatever, twenty.
But I think that I think for those of us
who felt a definite change in the energy in the
country and felt like that people who had very outdated

(54:55):
and backwards thinking.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
As far as.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
All Americans moving forward, I think that that sentiment is.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Going to take over.

Speaker 8 (55:04):
And I do not think I'm going on the record,
and this is not political. I'm just saying my prediction.
I do not think that he will be successful. And
I think that that that that that right there is
the thing that that keeps somebody like that up at
night because he wants so bad, like like like he's
up at night. He's up at night to be a

(55:25):
one term president. And uh, he's up at night. And
that is the thing. And so that is the only
for me, that's the that's the only thing. Because you
come out of the courtroom, you do your fist, you
do you do the dog whistles, all of that, and uh,
then you see this flood of money campaign money, and
this whole sentiment. Right, but when you go and you

(55:45):
pull that lever or whatever, you write your little bubble
in that ballot come election day, I think that people
knew what it was, and to go backwards, that's what
would happen. And I'm trying to use my words carefully
here to not be biased with this.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
But this is not for me. This is not a
political thing for me.

Speaker 8 (56:05):
This is a survival thing as a black woman in
the United States with black children and with like trying
to trying to move forward and leave something for my
kids and try to create some sort of generational wealth
in a country that has at pretty much every every
point in our not too distant past, stopped a rising

(56:29):
middle class.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
If it, you know, wasn't in the majority.

Speaker 8 (56:32):
So I feel like Americans will pull together on election Day,
and I think that is the thing that will be
the thorn in a person like that side, because to
lose is not you know, nowhere in his mind. Even
he could be like losing a foot race and say
I didn't lose, and so that's good.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
That's because I'm not get.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
As a Ravens fan, I'll just say my prediction. Here's
my think.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
What do you guys think who's winning there?

Speaker 6 (57:02):
The Ravens. The Ravens.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
Core philosophy has been always been based in listen their
heart right. My problem is the Democratic Party in Joe Biden.
They don't have the heart Trumps Trumps people have the
heart loud and wrong, ignorant and stupid. Their heart. They
are going to do whatever needs to be done.

Speaker 8 (57:27):
And that's exactly And when we say that we're not
because you to be fair, like if you're a Republican,
that's the candidate, so to be fair fair, you know,
how do you vote in that situation if you don't
like the candidate?

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Do you not still vote along your party lines?

Speaker 6 (57:45):
The Republics vote, but you don't even look. They don't
laugh to like them.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
They vote.

Speaker 6 (57:50):
It's a system, right, But that's the Democrats don't do Democrats.

Speaker 8 (57:54):
I don't get it twisted to say that. You know, everybody,
I don't think you're voting for person. You're voting along
your party lines. And that that's the scary part for me.
But yeah, anyway, I'm say I think they're more passionate.
Take it out of contact because.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
You said African Americans don't get be doomed. If we
have to depend on African Americans, get out and vote.
Guess what, Okay, we're not doomed. Let's hope. Hope is
the word. But not okay. Oh, I needed the video
for this one. Have you seen the video? Have y'
all seen the video? What's your take? Who's gonna win?

(58:33):
By the way, we're curious now, Wallace, is this.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
A prince shirt?

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Last week?

Speaker 5 (58:37):
You know it's a prince Tokay, Wiles, this is not
a prince shirt. You know I'm too big for a
print shirt. It is a prince like shirt. Yes, I
like that.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
This is the prince shirt. That's what you're talking about.

Speaker 10 (58:51):
Oh damn right, this is the prince shirt.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Anthony Horn makes an a prince Anthony Horn question.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
I talked to.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
The tourist director for Saint Kitts and I thought of
you because my last message Anthony Horne, who always excuse
me never calling him back, which I did call him back,
he didn't pick up. He said he had something for me.
And Anthony's working on the islands doing these cool things.
So Anthony Saint Kitts was on today Be More Lifestyle,
and I was like, please Jesus, let this be the

(59:25):
surprise that Anthony has because Anthony works in these islands
and he does these festivals. So Anthony, please tell me
you know the person for Saint Kitts, the commissioner whatever, anyway,
I'll call you after the show. Was that the secret
you had for me? Was that the secret? I think
you understand the fear. It's the same for him. The

(59:46):
first couple of times micro level on this show, Anthony,
you're already living Wait a minute, Anthony Horn talking about
he's gonna buy house in Spain.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
Already live in Spain.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
We're talking about the life.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
I ain't gonna nowhere you are, you're already living in
damn saying it's wherever? Yeah, I don't again it don't
take it rocket science, y'all. Y'all know the energy, the
passion is on only one side of the table.

Speaker 8 (01:00:13):
We know that that's not true. The passion is also
against that energy.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
Is it passion?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
It's fear?

Speaker 8 (01:00:21):
No, no, no, I'm talking about if you don't align with
the whole messaging.

Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
Yeah, no, I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
Yes, it's liberal. It's liberal talk radio. No, just put
it this way, liberal talk radio zero listeners, conservative talk
a billion, No more liberal talk because it doesn't get ratings.
Why because people need to be angry. The Republicans are
angry and mad. Oh damn, damn it, Anthony, Okay, well,

(01:00:50):
all right.

Speaker 8 (01:00:50):
When you're when you're at home, please make sure that
the yard is always done.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
When you're gonna be unemployed?

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
What did I say?

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
What did I? Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:01:01):
Boy, there are good there are good people, and I
hope that good prevail.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I'm I'm confident that good will prevel. So okay, you
feel about it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
People aren't really voting, they're not really saying what they're
gonna do. Oh wait a minute, eighty eight's in the building.
Damn Sean, what's up? And congratulations eighty eight? Who actually
eighty eight? I'll never forget this all my fat people,
eighty eight I call eighty eight. Sean. Eighty eight got

(01:01:34):
the weight loss surgery because he had to get he
needed to get hip surgery, and he had to lose
weight to get the hip surgery. And so eighty eight
babe was the security at Sydney Sweet sixteen, the tall brother.
So I remember when he asked me back then, hey, Mark,
have you said about weight loss surgery? I was like, no,

(01:01:54):
in my mind, how dare you? And of course I
had weight lass surgery. So thank you, Sean. And I
believe Sean you just got some new hips. So congratulations.
And also congratulations, Happy anniversary. Happy anniversary too. So all
all of that rapped together. Thank you, my brother. Dave
Anderson in town debate, Dave, Babe, Dave Anderson in town today, Dave,

(01:02:19):
I think I stole one of your quotes we had
today when you came in.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
That's embarrassing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
I don't care. I still I still from them all
the time, the business bullies in the building, Sean Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
See also eighty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
If you are a anyway, eighty eight is a great guy,
he says. He's saying Trump Man, I don't know when
the platforms how comeing? Oh we say, I don't know. Oh,
I don't know when?

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
On off of you?

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
Oh okay fourteen years ago, Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
TV. Yes, Yes she had her friends.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
Yes eighty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
Thank you, my brother. See baby, he's okay. I didn't
expose anything. See Dave said, I can because I'm not
going to say Dave is a Trumper. I'm going to
say Dave's a realist. He's a realist and a marketer,
and he feels like that Trump's gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Well, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
Oh you weren't seeing the text on YouTube? Very interesting?
Send them prayers for you. Sean Speedy recovery. Was it
both hips and just one? And how is it going? Mm?

Speaker 8 (01:03:34):
Interesting, Dave, I agree, Ill, let's agree to disagree because
I don't feel like pulling up all the receipts of
what has happened over the last four years. I think
that I think that the Democrats have a the Democrats
need a bigger bullhorn to talk about the things that

(01:03:56):
have been done.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
And for me, I always this is what I said.
At the end of the day.

Speaker 8 (01:04:02):
I believe that Joe Biden came in as almost like
as a like a peacetime president came in to try
to restore some civility, try to sort of even out
or normal out or what have you this country again.
And so that's how I feel about it. And at

(01:04:23):
the end of the day, and I was right about
the last president not getting a second term. I was
right about that, remember, yeah, and I and I will
be right about it come November. That's how I feel
about it. But we're trying to circle back. Eight got
a new hip, so he's back in the ass kicking game.
Good job, Sean. Did you want to end with the

(01:04:45):
Superintendent show? Can we end with something more up? Because
we talked about these things. Last week, you're the MS
that that diagnosis not coming through.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
I was talking about my diet.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Oh okay, let's talk about it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
So those who've been keeping track, I had declared.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
Twenty twenty four vegan, twenty twenty four, I am no
longer vegan.

Speaker 8 (01:05:09):
Well, you're no longer vegan because because as when when
you were first diagnosed her, when they first thought that
you might have multiple sclerosies, which we don't we don't
ever say the name.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
We call it more success. So Mark has more success.
We're dealing with more success as a family. That's how
we call it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
So uh yeah, but so so when we first researched it,
and this is this is my thing with you, Mark Clark,
This is my thing with you, Mark Clark. They said,
you know, a great diet for those with MS more
success is the Mediterranean diet.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
It's giving you the things that you need.

Speaker 8 (01:05:52):
But Mark want a free style it and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Be a vegan.

Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
When did nobody say that about But that's what you
always do and you'll like freestyle it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
So because.

Speaker 8 (01:06:09):
And you've talked about diet and all that, they say, yeah,
the beginning thing is not really the best thing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
And that's where we are today.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
Yeah, but again it's only because an eighty eight can relate,
Dave can relate. I've been on every plan, I've researched
every dive, I've been to Mediterrane. I've done it all right,
And the end of the day, we're trying, you know,
and you know the I think.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Meat is on the Mediterranean diet.

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
Yeah, Terrane die, you know, olives and so it was
just the timing, that's all that was.

Speaker 8 (01:06:46):
Okay, So we're back to so we're now we're doing
lean meats. But I'm so interested. So you're cutting out sugar.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Oh my god, that is well, that is if.

Speaker 8 (01:06:54):
I could cut out sugar, lord, And I think about
it every morning when I put those two scoops into
my morning coffee, and I just delighted, y'all. I'm drinking
my coffee in the morning before I go on, and
I'm just savoring every step of it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
I love it so much.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
Sugar and it's sugar and cream, which you love. You
don't love coffee. That's that's what I realized, because coffee
tastes like so I'm not doing unsweetened tea and unsweeted coffee,
and it is protein the best party.

Speaker 8 (01:07:18):
Yes, Julie, I'm trying to They say you need like
thirty grams protein in every meal.

Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
Yeah, it's too much. They push protein, they push protein.
So I think it's important to going back to me,
you have to watch your watch your portion size. That's
what I didn't do it first, watch your portance. And
well the crazy part was I totally forgot the reason
why you go back and forth with these diat things
because when I when I when I do do reducing sugar,

(01:07:47):
when I take that sugar out, it then comes off.
I lost you know, So what with the thing? What
was that last week? Last year?

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
I don't think I saw what they weighed you in.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
Yeah, last week I was two ninety two. Today I'm
too eighty five.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Just like, oh man, just get on my damn nerves.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
But that sugar, you realize coffee seven pounds. Coffee is
most people are addicted to the sugar and the cream.
That's what makes it delicious because the coffee by itself something.
So you're trying to tell me coffee.

Speaker 8 (01:08:23):
Set out sugar and in the last week or so,
you've lost like seven pounds. So what does that what
does that look like on a daily basis because sugar,
sugar isn't.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
Everything, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
So how do you so when I do my instant
oatmeal in the morning, oatmeal.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
And sugar because oatmeal is just is okay, So what
do you is sugar? When you're putting sugar on oatmeal,
you're putting sugar on sugar.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
I don't put the sugar on it, but it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
Is whatever you're doing it because it's it converts to
sugar because it's just oats. Oats conversed to sugar, Bread
conversed to sugar, grains conversion sugar, everything con versus sugar
and then fruits depending on how much sugar they have
in them. I mean, blueberries are low sugar. Everything else
is kind of not. So it's like you, like you say,
everything is sugar, and that's how they get you. You're
addicted to it. You can't have me some sugar's life, right. No,

(01:09:13):
it is a struggle because it takes. It takes a
whole crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:09:17):
I just don't know what my day would look like
to not have sugar in it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
So that's what I'm talking. I'm a person who needs
to see it.

Speaker 8 (01:09:24):
So let me just say this to anybody out there
who has had who has had success with limiting sugar
and all of that. Anybody out there, can you please
send me an example of your diet in a day
so that I can try to.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
You're not gonna like it because it's I mean, look,
it's not bad. So in the morning, you have two
boiled eggs. At lunch, I mean, have a salad with
the protein.

Speaker 6 (01:09:51):
This is it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
This is something I was going to do when I
was in New York. Guys and do this diet. It's
called it's actually two fruits, two proteins and the rest greens.

Speaker 6 (01:10:03):
Nobody steal that, but.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
That's where's the meat. And you need the meat for.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
Two fruits, two proteins, two service proteins, and the rest
greens limit the fruit because of sugar, right, right, two fruits,
two proteins and the rest greens. So and then the
fruits are blueberries maybe like blueberries are low and sugar.
There's a couple of others. I don't have my little

(01:10:29):
thing in front of you, but and then they'd like
swerve the sugar alternatives. You gotta be careful if you're
pre diabetic or diabetic, then your body still may and
also what I'm doing, guys is I'm I'm I take
my insulin levels, my sugar levels daily and after each
meal and before each meal. So I'm basically very aware

(01:10:49):
of where my sugar is. Okay, lower sugar o meal,
oults of sugar. Oats are bad as far as you're
trying write, because oats of sugar.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
I need energy in the morning.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
Well you do feel that you don't have that energy?

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
I need energy in the morning.

Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
And so Mark, okay, he's gonna say it to me,
thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Is that eighty eight to Sean eighty eight?

Speaker 5 (01:11:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Okay, thank you? Because yeah, I just need.

Speaker 8 (01:11:13):
I'm I'm a person who needs to see it and
then I can follow it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
I'm a list person.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
And so Anthony, we're not listening to you with your
cups all day now. I saw your pictures of Anthony
is like all cut up and living in the sun.

Speaker 8 (01:11:30):
Okay, that's the other problem to y'all my early morning schedule.
It makes it super duper what's going on there in
super duper hard.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Okay, ever, say what now? What works? Limit fruit? Limit fruit?

Speaker 8 (01:11:43):
Because of the sugar. Okay, thank you, guys. Just is
there a can we save the chat. Can you save
the chat?

Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
Well when you go when you go back on is
up there? If you go back to the sites?

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Okay, thank you because I love all of these.

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
And Twine, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
Okay, wait a minute, Antwine?

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
Are you Antwine? Are you my? Antoine? Are you my?
Uh my my? What you call it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Plug?

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
I think Antoine's are seaweed plug?

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:12:17):
Somebody in Maryland won a million dollars somebody in Silver Spring?
What I think it was? Mega millions? You want a
million dollars? Congratulations? Isn't that awesome?

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
Yep? I couldn't be spape because we didn't buy a
ticket first thing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
That's the problem. But anyway, congratulations to you.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
Yes, the Sagittarian God, the best sea weed in the
business right here, not see where you see mas, Sorry,
Antoine is right here, Sagittarian God.

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
See.

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
I didn't know. I saw I saw that picture man
at Long Main, I saw you.

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
All right? Okay? Anything at any partying shots?

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Pap did you were you good?

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
Is?

Speaker 6 (01:12:57):
Martin said? He's okay? By the way, for those who are.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
So babe there, you know this show was so we
didn't have a lot of race, did you see the
thing on video, babe with the what are your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
You know what?

Speaker 8 (01:13:11):
I thought it was horrible, But this is what I'm
talking about. Father is at a graduation, his daughter's right.
Where was that It wasn't in some place you would
think it was someplace like in not Illinois, but some
other place.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
Superintendent African American superintendent.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Is uh is black and his daughter and this white guy.

Speaker 8 (01:13:30):
The daughter is graduating walking across the stage and this
guy literally comes up on the stage pushes the superintendent
out of the way because he doesn't want his daughter
shaking his hand.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
He's a black man.

Speaker 8 (01:13:43):
And but the daughter super embarrassed when when the superintendent
comes back on the you know, the crowd boos this
action when he when the superintendent comes back on, they
you know, they applaud this is It's a battle, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
It's a battle and we got to be in it.

Speaker 8 (01:14:00):
It's a battle because there are forces that are keeping
folks ignorant.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
And it's a battle. And I believe that, well, we
have to win. The good has to win, because if not,
then what there is there is chaos.

Speaker 8 (01:14:15):
So and it's not it's not gonna be chaos because
we've all no Babzie.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
Wherever you get pours some liquor out for Babsie. She
kept off over one hundred pounds off since twenty eighteen.
We got it. Let me tell you it's a Hall
of Fame weight loss group. In this joint. Eighty eight
lost over one hundred pounds with it. Two Dave lost
over three hundred or four hundred pounds. Anthony got ripped up,

(01:14:45):
and you know I lost over one hundred pounds.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
So let's keep it going.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
Guys.

Speaker 8 (01:14:51):
The thing I hate the most about that, I'm so
proud of you and you look amazing. What I hate
about it is sometimes when we take pictures, I've this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Know where I know where it went when you lost it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:03):
Where to go this gal baby did not go on you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
I'm pictures. I'm like, oh no, no.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
No, sign, Wait a minute.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
You hold him back like Brannie was two fifty, you're
one hundred pounds.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Brandy. I'm going to text you when we get off.
I need to know. So boiled eggs and turkey bacon
in the morning.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
Eighty eight six oh eight was as heavy as man
eighty eight. I'm so proud of you and Dave.

Speaker 8 (01:15:28):
Dave.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
Dave was five something and it's crazy Anthony. Yeah, Anthony.
So Anthony, mister living on an island somewhere was like, yeah,
before I got my weight loss surgery, Anthony was like
making fun of me, saying, Okay, so when you come
visit me and don't have all that loose skin and
you're in the lagoon or whatever, what you gonna do,
I'm like, forget you man. Yeah, Anthony, I remember that. Yeah,

(01:15:53):
I remember that. Wow, And look at who You never know?
You never know what people? Funny Brandy, Brandy's with Brandy
sexy mermaid right curby mermaids. Sorry, well I have what
I'm saying, So Brandy, who knew? You never know a
person's life. You never know who people are. Two thousand

(01:16:15):
and eight. That was just around the corner. All right, y'all,
we've been going to. My aus is really talkative tonight
for some reason.

Speaker 8 (01:16:22):
That seems weird that you cut the sugar out And okay, Brandy,
I just text you please, so please answer my text
when you can.

Speaker 5 (01:16:31):
It's my buddy right here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
He is all fine, thank you. Cuteness little flower shirts out.

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
You know what I did? I use babies uh, widening strips.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Baby. I like the whitening strips. I think it worked.
Mm hmmm, because lord, I'm seeing myself on TV. I'm like, no, sir, no, sir,
we can't do that, all.

Speaker 8 (01:16:53):
Right, So okay, And in closing, a little update on
our life, I think, okay, all right, little update on
our life. For our oldest who had been living at
home for her first year of medical school, she has
now moved out, only lives fifteen minutes away, but it
feels like she lives in a whole nother state. And

(01:17:14):
I missed her.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
I do.

Speaker 8 (01:17:18):
And but we've been hanging out because she needs stuff
for her apartment.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
So these past two days I've seen her. That's why
I was so well.

Speaker 8 (01:17:26):
I wasn't with you at the top of the show
because we went to Walmart and that took everything out
of me. So oh, she needs you to buy her
an air fryer. So anyway, that's what happened with her.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Baby. Did you know this baby got a job. Baby's
gonna be working at Taco Bell.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
Y'all okay and socco tuesdays.

Speaker 8 (01:17:46):
Baby's gonna be working at Taco Bell. The only shift
she could get is the night shift. So she's gonna
be working eight to midnight, movin.

Speaker 6 (01:17:55):
Hey, what we doing now?

Speaker 8 (01:17:58):
So on the night shift, baby's baby's, baby's a grinder,
Baby's a hustler.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
So she's she came.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
Home and got that job I called baby. Since she
was a freshman, I call her a single black woman.

Speaker 8 (01:18:09):
Yeah, she's she does not work.

Speaker 6 (01:18:14):
Since worked at Wendy's living in the Windy's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
She she works. She works in ghetto jobs, Wendy's cookout
in Atlanta. My baby working a cookout.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
She's had several jobs.

Speaker 6 (01:18:28):
She cooks for people. She does hair.

Speaker 10 (01:18:31):
She was a cashier at Safeway casual Safeway. She cooks
for people. She do she do hair women. I don't
think you understand. She makes plates, she do hair.

Speaker 8 (01:18:45):
Brandy, I often have wonder I wondered why I just
assume you had curbing mermaid, Brandy, because you know your your.

Speaker 6 (01:18:53):
Beach like Brandy got them curves.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
It's so inappropriate, Brandy, Brandy?

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
What now? Oh what's your cash app? Wait a minute?
Oh see they're so sweet, Yes, Spencer's cash app. Girl.
You're right, because she didn't meet though Sydney at Sydney
is City, was getting let me tell you something about
the kids. It's so great. They don't know the money well,
especially Cidy.

Speaker 8 (01:19:17):
Somebody said that having daughters, and this is so true.
Having daughters raise your hand if you can relate. Having
daughters is like having little broke best friends who think
you're rich. Yes, little broke best friends. So and then
our middle daughter is coming home next week. She is
down in Norfolk and she has been really trying to

(01:19:39):
get a job the little she can't get a job
in Norfolk, so she's coming on home to get a
job and try to finish up school. So her path
has been like this, but I said, in college, you know,
wasn't necessarily traditional. She's still she's stugging it out. She's
sticking it out, and I told her it's going to
make her story so much more interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Nothing wrong with.

Speaker 8 (01:20:02):
You know, you go in, you go out, you're going,
or you go you do it, you go through your trade,
or you go you're in the military, you start what away,
or you go to college or whatever, junior college too.
But when she stands up and then she speaks and
shares her story one day, and you know, and she says,
it's okay if you didn't get out of school in
four years. You know, it's okay if you saw other

(01:20:25):
people that you went to school with go on and
you think they're surpassing you. It's okay if you don't
really have one hundred percent confidence in yourself, as long
as you continue to.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Work on yourself.

Speaker 8 (01:20:37):
And that's going to be her her testament and her testimony,
and she's going to inspire millions of people. I can
just feel so anyway, that's that's an update. That's a
family update. That's what that's what we're doing, Anthony.

Speaker 6 (01:20:48):
I'll let you go ahead, be safe, brother.

Speaker 7 (01:20:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
The thing what you know so babe that I love
what you said about daughters, but I think your mother,
your mother, your mother.

Speaker 6 (01:20:57):
The best ever, right, mom? And dad the best. Your
mother probably said the same thing about me.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Son in laws are like broke little boys who think
you have all.

Speaker 8 (01:21:07):
You know, son in laws couldn't be like you know
when you were little, and then you get them, you're
at the house and you get the knock.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
On the dirt. Son in law's love.

Speaker 6 (01:21:20):
With in your mom? By anything?

Speaker 5 (01:21:22):
I wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
All you have to.

Speaker 8 (01:21:23):
Say was, you know, man, that's a sharp that's a
sharp sweater best.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Two weeks later, here you.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
Go, whatever, Mom, Well, now I'm I lost my high
paying job.

Speaker 6 (01:21:36):
I'm unemployed.

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
Allison's parents had my back and Mom would buy me
anything I wanted or needed, and it was great because
and you get the co sign from dad, like if
I did need something to be like you know, of
course for Lawrence, of course, and.

Speaker 6 (01:21:53):
Who has that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
That's why we don't give marriage advice because I married
like the dopest girl who had the dopest parents. So
I don't give much advice because that's the part. That's
the part. Most peops didn't have bill parents like that.
So therefore, all right, y'all, okay, wait a minute, while
its cousin, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Thank you Wallace for sharing that. It's you know, and
I'm not I'm.

Speaker 8 (01:22:19):
Not speaking out of turn because I think this is
just inspirational for other people to hear, because you might
look at I think we look at family. Sometimes you
might look at us and be like, oh, okay, you know, yeah,
they just cruising through life.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
They don't have a care in the world. It's just
we all.

Speaker 8 (01:22:36):
Have our family, different family dynamics, and to be quite honest,
like everybody doesn't necessarily that's not the path like traditional
college and some and I think that I think that
our sweet daughter said that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
I don't really like that.

Speaker 8 (01:22:52):
She said, like, maybe it's not for me or whatever.
And I wish, in full transparency, I wish I had
listened more and maybe we had figured out a different
path then, because I think sometimes when you try to
fit all kids or kids into one mole, like fitting
a like a square peg into a round hole that

(01:23:14):
you think they need to fit in, sometimes it just
it's like it doesn't it doesn't work, and it's frustrating
because maybe they feel like they're in over their head
or and it's frustrating to us as parents because they're
not living out what we think is the dream for them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
And so it's just like I had somebody tell me
a long time ago, you have three daughters.

Speaker 8 (01:23:34):
They're they're going to learn differently, They're going to go
through life differently. You know, they might they might love
differently all of that, and as parents, as long as
they're not being destructive to themselves or to the household,
then it's their life and you gotta, I think, give them.
And that's what I'm learning now because the kids are

(01:23:55):
twenty three, twenty two nineteen learning that you got to
give give them a little little rope. I hate that,
but you know what I mean, little leeway, a little
rope to do their thing. And then and then draw
the boundaries. If you're not going to like, if you're
not whiles I see you, If you're not going to
go to school and you're twenty year old person twenty,
what's your plan?

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Then?

Speaker 8 (01:24:15):
What's your plan? And how can I help you be
on that plan? But yeah, so it's it's but it's
all good at the end of the day because they're here,
they're healthy, and that's just and I feel exceedingly blessed
period and we're moving forward.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
That's all we can do.

Speaker 5 (01:24:32):
Awesome, good job whilelence you got this dad? Ye all right,
y'all give me emotional. Let's get out of here.

Speaker 6 (01:24:38):
Give me a wing.

Speaker 8 (01:24:40):
He needs some figger, all right, y'all, be good business, bully.
He needs some recent peanut butter cups.

Speaker 6 (01:24:46):
That mus see y'all next week. We goodbye.