"Channeled Messages of Hope" with John and Carolyn Thomas

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and gentlemen, it's time for AngelQuest with Karenoi on Hudson River Radio dot
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I'm Karen Noe, author of YourLife After Their Death Through the Eyes of
Another and Week Consciousness. John Thomasis my guest today. He's the co

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author of Channeled Messages of Hope.This book is a compilation of channeled conversations
obtained through a free flowing one onone interview format with nineteen prominent souls who,
from their unique vantage points on theother side, discuss global warming and
climate change. John is a classicSilicon Valley tech guy. After receiving his

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chemist engineering degree, John worked formany years in various technical fields. Along
the way, he was able tosee the environmental impact of these technologies and
he developed a deep appreciation for companiesthat were serious about creating sustainable practices and
protecting the environment. Today, we'llbe talking about his book channel messages of

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hope. Hi John, thanks forjoining us today. Hi Karen, it's
a pleasure to be here. AndI also, as a special bonus,
Carolyn Thomas has agreed to join forthis conversation as well. Well. Hi
Carolyn, Hello Karen. Thank youso much for having us. Yes,
I'm so thrilled that it worked outthat I was able to tune you after
all, So thank you again forhaving us. Oh, you know what,

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You're part of the book too,so this will be great. Okay,
So before we start, I wantedto ask John if you could tell
us a little bit about how theplaces you worked for affected the environment.
It wasn't well, you know,I kind of came up in Silicon Valley
after I went to my engineering school. So I was in industries like semiconductor
and microelectronic fabrication to a degree inthe electric vehicle side, on the batteries

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specifically, and so all of thesetypes of processes that are done in large
factories, they use lots of theycan be corrosive materials, materials that are
hard to dispose of in the environment, and so I've really seen a change
in Silicon Valley as many of theselarge companies are attempting to go cleaner,

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more renewable, and in the waythat they dispose of their you know,
of their byproducts. So I've reallybeen attuned to that and actually now and
call it my day job, Irun a startup that has to do with
a piece of technology that is avery environmentally sustainable technology for the culinary space.

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Actually, so it's kind of we'reCarolyn and I were not climate scientists
here, but we know that thistopic is of great interest to people around
the world, and people really needto hear about what's happening and get some
messages of hope around it. Inour opinion, beautiful. So here's okay,

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let's find out how can you tellus? Can you both tell us
how channeled Messages of Hope came about? Sure, I would love to talk
about this. Well. First ofall, there are three people involved in
this book, Sam who is thechanneler, my husband John here who is
the co interviewer, and myself whois the author and interviewer. And there's

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also many souls involved as well.On the other side. We spoke with
as you mentioned, Karen nineteen soulswho had been very influential while in a
physical body and most acted on behalfof the planet. They included spiritual leaders,
policy makers, oceanographers, climate scientists, physicists, inventors, conservationists,

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scientists, and even a self helpauthor. And also involved in this book
was a group on the other sideknown as the Council, and I'll get
to them in just a moment,But in terms of how this started,
I first met Sam the channeler aboutten years ago. Sam is highly clairvoyant

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and clare sentient, and at thattime she was using these gifts as an
animal communicator. John and I werehaving issues with one of our cats and
so I hired Sam. Over time, Sam and I became close friends,
and in twenty twenty one time frame, Sam began to get these messages that

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were for me from a being onthe other side, and she felt this
energy was of a very high vibration, and she began channeling information from this
being to me as an in twochannel, relaying the information to me while
I was on the phone with her. The following year, in twenty twenty

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two, Sam took this to thenext level and tried conscious or voice channeling
for the first time, which issimilar to how Esther Hicks channels, and
this is how I started talking directlywith the soul that I refer to as
Boba. So Baba and I haveshared many lifetimes together, and he is

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also a member of the Council onthe other Side, And I just wanted
to say, for those who arenot familiar with the Council, the Council
is a group of ascended master Beanson the other side, and although we
can't be certain, we've been ledto believe that souls such as Saint Francis
of a CC, Jesus Christ,and other enlightened beings are members of the

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Council. So Sam had been channelingBoba regularly for me, and I was
starting to feel pretty bad that Icouldn't do the same thing for Sam.
I'm not a channeler, and inAugust twenty twenty two, a thought popped
into my head. Why can't Samchannel her loved ones and I could ask

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all of Sam's prepared questions for her. Since Sam does not remember anything during
a channeling, I just had totake really good notes so I could relate
them back to her. Well,we did this and it worked like a
charm and Sam was so happy tohave this access to her loved ones through
me. So a few days later, John and I are driving down the

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road and another thought came to me. Why not take this a step further
and use Sam's gift to help peoplearound the world. Sam could channel inspirational
souls, I could interview them,transcribe the recordings, and then create a
Messages of Hope type book for people. So shortly thereafter, I talked to

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Boba through Sam and I ran thisMessages of Hope idea past him, and
that is when Boba said, theidea of this project was actually downloaded to
me and it wasn't my idea afterall that he had that he is on
something called the Council, which isthe group of assended master Beans on the

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other side, and this was theirproject and I had an agreement with them
and responsibility to be the messenger forthe Council to carry out this particular project.
So basically, Karen, this isthe Council's project. They facilitate all
the interviews with these souls on theother side, I conduct the interviews with

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help from John through Sam, andI relay their messages to people on Earth.
Wow, that's amazing, and Iknow this is the way I received
mess such is just as you didtelepathically. You know, you think a
thought just pops in your head forno reason. But they speak to us
telepathically. They don't have a physicalbody. You don't necessarily hear a voice

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or see an operation of oh theyare or the group is. You know,
comes to you as downloaded information.So I'm glad you listened. Yes,
the bottom line, Yeah, OhI thought I was brilliant until yes,
but it came through you, Soyou are brilliant, absolutely so,

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John, your knowledge of the stateof our global climate must have been helpful.
But did you have to do researchor did you come to this project
with the knowledge that you had.Well, there was a lot of research.
Carolyn really started all this and shedid. I'm glad she joined us
today. Yeah I am too.Yeah. You know, she did a

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lot of research on the state ofour climate and what's going on there with
global warming and everything. And thenshe initially formulated the souls. She would
do deep research on each soul tocome up with the framework for the question.
So what happened is she determined thatwe needed some more technical souls and
bibs you know, involved such asa Nikola tesla and others, and so

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she said, hey, why don'tyou come in here with your technical background
and you can, you know,maybe help me with some of the more
technical topics with Albert Einstein and youknow, souls like that, And so
that was how I got involved.I actually knew she was doing all this,
but I probably entered about maybe thethird or fourth interview in and began
to take on some of those interviews. And sometimes we do them both together

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as well. But I must sayI'm embarrassed to admit that, you know,
despite us living in California, youknow, when this project first started,
we had very limited knowledge on thetopic. We really did. You
know, we recycle, turn offthe water when we're brushing our teeth,
and drive an electric car. Butthat's about it. So we really had

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to come up to speed quickly.I'm glad you did. By any chance.
Are there any messages about veganism inthere? Yes, from from mohandas
Gandhi, Yes, I would loveto hear it. Well, he We
have lots of messages. You know. The book contains thirty hours of any

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reviews with these souls and I've gotyou know, there's just pages and pages
of their recommendations to readers in termsof what they can do to help slow
down global warming. And one ofthe things that Gandhi did talk about he
did mention for the readers. Hetalked about vegetarianism and how the meat industry

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has put extreme pressure on soil andwater resources. For example, the Amazon
rainforest A Mendez is one of thesouls we talk to. The Amazon rain
rainforest has been being deforested over time, largely because the ranchers, the cattle
ranchers want that land and the youknow, the rainforest is a big part

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of the Earth's ability to deal withcarbon dioxide in the atmosphere. So we're
putting more carbra dioxide in the atmospherewhile we're reducing the means that the Earth
uses to use up carbon dioxide.A lot of it is, you know,
the Amazon and rainforest situation is part. You know, there's other things
like that, but yeah, sothat really kind of feeds into the you

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know, decreasing meat, which decreasesthe need for all the cattle ranching,
which helps the earth stay in balance. It's all connected, yes, absolutely,
absolutely. Again, your book iscalled Channel Messages of Hope, and
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dot Com. Hudson River Radio dotCom. Welcome back where I'm here with
John and Carolyn Thomas talking about theiramazing book Channel Messages of Hope, and
I would love to hear about someof the people that you interviewed and some

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of your takeaways from them. Imean, there's so many so you can
pick and shoes you want to startthen? Oh gosh, doctor Wayne Dyer,
how's that? Oh okay, wecan go right there. That one
was really that was really special,Karen, Oh my goodness. And I

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you know, I was not expectingthe reaction that I would have on talking
with him, and I'm trying towell, well, you're looking. I
can give you a couple of impressionsfrom Wayne. You know, when we
talk to different souls, from policymakers, to scientists, conservations, then to

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spiritual leaders, we got a differenttake on the situation going on in the
environment and spiritual leaders such as WayneDyer. On Saint Francis of the CC,
for example, Wayne Dyer specifically saidthat the collective guilt of man for
abusing Mother Earth has got man inthis position where he's actually expecting punishment.

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Mother Earth is, as it wasexplained to us by the Council BABA through
the Council why did the council wantto talk about our environment because they see
the Mother Earth is in such astruggle right now. And what has happened
is that, you know, WayneDyer would say that we really haven't treated
Mother Earth in a very respectful way. And the man's approach is more that

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the Earth is here for me,how much can I take? As opposed
to the better way to approach MotherEarth would be how can I serve?
And both Saint Francis and Wayne Dyerwere very clear that you know, we
are all one, We're connected.Mother Earth has a soul, We have
souls, the animals, plants,the ocean, and they're all they're all

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connected, and so everything has tobe revered at the same level and respected
at the same level if we expectto be treated well by all these levels.
And I think one of the examplesthat was given was, hey,
if you treat a family member inthe way that man has been treating the
Earth, you're not going to havean association for long with that family member.

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And that is what the souls,especially on the spiritual side, we're
trying to instruct us that the Earthis struggling, The Earth is not happy,
right now and we're acting man isacting disconnected from this Earth that basically
has given us this gift of thisenvironment and everything that we need to live.
And Wayne Dyer specifically, I thoughtthis was interesting that even on the

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other side, he's a teacher andhe has provided visualizations for other souls on
the other side in terms of howto visualize Mother Earth, how to thank
Mother Earth, acknowledge and respect MotherEarth. And yeah, I thought that
was very interesting, right, andso contained in the book you will see

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the visualization and the meditation that he'sprovided as a way for readers to be
able to send their love to MotherEarth. And you know, but I
have to say I was really surprisedby my reaction, and I was very
formal with everybody, with every soulthat was interviewed, I you know,

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it was either you know by theirtitle in terms of the soul that we
were speaking with from their time onEarth, and so you know, it
was doctor Dyer. And when doctorDyer came through, I he was my
first spiritual teacher when I was seventeenyears old. And it's I still don't
understand how this came about. Butone of his books, Pulling your Own

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strings was sitting on our kitchen counter, and this is when I was still
living at home a teenager. Mymother wouldn't read books like that. I
still don't know where that book camefrom, but I was drawn to that
book, and you know, itwas all about how not to be a
victim. You don't need to bea victim. And I read that and

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it really shaped my I've never beena victim since reading that book. That's
not one of my go to thingsin this lifetime. But he made such
an impression on me. And whenhis books became more spiritual, I must
have read all of them, andof course watched all of the PBS specials
that he did, and so whenhe came through, I just was so

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excited to talk with him. Butwhat happened was I became really emotional,
and this didn't happen with any ofthe other souls, and I just began
to weep and I couldn't stop.And it wasn't coming from my head,
it was coming from my heart,and I knew it was my sole connection

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with him, and I literally couldn'tstop. And so about a third of
the interview is my trying to getthrough, you know, talking with him
and then finally I was able toadjusted this energy and it all worked out.
But it was just a very meaningfulexperience for me to be able to

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speak with him and then to learnthat he is one of my guides and
John's and so that was really special. That's beautiful. And you know my
connection with I don't know if youdo, but my connection with Wayne Dyer
as well, Yes I do,Okay. So I was a I did
not know him personally. I wasa huge fan as you are, and

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after he passed, I didn't knowwhat I could do for the family.
But I had just interviewed his daughter, Serena Dire a few weeks before he
passed away, so I had hercontact information and I emailed her and I
said, you know something to theeffect of Serena, I'm so sorry about
the passing of your dad. Pleaseknow, without a doubt he's okay.

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I would want you to be too, Ask him to give you a sign
to let you know that he's withyou, ask him to come to you
in a dream and to wake youup after the dreams that you remember it.
Blah blah blah. And I said, I'd love to send you a
copy of my book Your Life aftertheir debt, if you would if you
would like it, And within threeminutes I received a response from her,
and the rest is history. Startingon a bus there was one seat available

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and in walk Serena Dyer. Andit's a long story, but it began
with I am when I kept sayingto myself, I am so insignificant,
I am so insignificant. And that'swhen I heard Wayne for the first time,
and he said, get out ofyour own way, Get out of
your own way. And I said, if that's really you, give me

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a sign to let me know thatit's you. And I said, how
may I serve? And he saidYou're already serve. I said sure,
okay, how could I serve more? And I went into the hotel room
because I was ready to speak ata at a conference. And when I
went in the hotel there was asticker that had somehow attached itself to the
inside of my shirt. And Ilooked at it and I'm the sticker,

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you know, as I'm asking Wayne. I asked him for a sign,
and I took the sticker off myshirt and it said w E on it
and I took it to mean Waynefirst letter, last letter, But little
did I know it was so muchmore. It was the week Consciousness,
which later on he channel. Hejoined a group Consciousness, so I called

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the we Guides, and he wasjust tons of signs and tons of messages
for over three years with his eightchildren and his wife. It was amazing.
So that's why I asked you aboutWayne first. And that's amazing.
Look at him. He's trying tomake the world a better place for those
who listens. Yeah, when theday that it was announced to his passing,

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I wrote down in my journal thatday, I feel like I've lost
my best friend. And that ishow it touched me. And I had
this busy day with contractors at thehouse and I didn't want to deal with
them, and so we're outside andthis monarch butterfly kept flying at my face.
He just kept going at my face. I'm like, Wayne, and

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could this possibly be you? Butthen I was getting a lot of other
signs later when I was asking forhim to send me a sign, and
I've included those in the book thatyou know, those circumstances, which was
thrilling. You know what's amazing forthose who are listening that all you need
to do is ask and they'll beHe'll be there for you, you know,

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just saying how may I serve yes, and he'll serve you as well.
So, John, did you havean experience with Wayne as well,
that same type of experience. Well, one thing I thought i'd mentioned is
he mentioned us when we're interviewing himthat when he transitioned, he when he
kind of there's a period as it'sdescribes us, where there's some confusion as
you transition from in a body tothe other side, and when he came

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to the other side, it lookedjust like my It looked just like Hawaii
to him, which made sense becausethat's his vision of heaven exactly. But
the other thing he mentioned that therewas many many souls there to greet him,
thousands that he didn't recognize that clearlywere people he had touched in his

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time on Earth through his teachings thatwere all there to greet him. And
I thought that was really so appropriatefor him, you know, that's beautiful.
Yeah, and that he's still teachingon the other side and still helping
other souls on the other side.As he said, I'm a teacher and

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that's what I do. I teachyes, and one of his main messages
through the Weak Guides was to understandthat we're all one and that includes on
one us with everyone and everything,including the animals and nature. So I'm
so glad you interviewed him, andI'm sure he had a lot to say
about the environment. I'm hoping well, And you know, Karen, what

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was really interesting, so many soulsbetween doctor Dyer and mohandas Gandhi and of
course Saint Francis. It was justamazing that the same message over and over
that kept coming through, and thatwas that we are all one, and

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that this is all about love andthe kindness needs to be shared with our
planet and shared with the animals,all the living things. And so when
I mentioned the book was a spiritualbook and also an environmental book, there
was also the technology piece that keptcoming through in terms of these wonderful things

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and advancements and breakthroughs that we canlook forward to that will really help our
planet. But share with us someof those, John, you want to,
Yeah, there's first of all,from a message of hope standpoint.
People A lot of people see what'shappening, they see ice caps melting.
It can really put you in kindof a despair position, like what's happening

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to my Earth? But what isclear from all the you know, all
the interviews is, first of all, the young the younger generation of technical
especially of people that are highly technical, are really getting it. And there's
many things that are being worked on. A big one right now is actually
nuclear but fusion energy. Nuclear fusionis clean, there's no radioactive fallout,

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you can generate huge amounts of power. It's something that Albert Einstein was working
on. Tesla's involved. They there'sworking groups of souls that were scientists and
technologists on the other side that areworking with the people here, you know,
humans nudging them, giving them inspirations, giving them all moments, so

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things like you know, Jacques Coustouis very interested, and there's materials that
are being created that will replace plasticas plastics in the ocean is one of
the biggest problems, and working onthings like deacidifying the ocean because as the
ocean becomes more acidic because of moretrapped greenhouse gas, we see things like

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the you know, the coral isbeing bleached out, or we're losing seaweed,
and actually seaweed these are you know, needed in the same way that
rainforests are for dealing with CO twoin the atmosphere. So the message of
hope really is that there's many,many things that are being worked on,

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and there's many people working on them, and countries are getting together. Even
if not all countries band together theway we want, there's a significant number
that are doing that, and youknow, some improvements are coming through.
But what I will also say isthat the big inventions are very interesting,
of course, but when it comesdown to what can we do as just

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one person, you know, asa message of hope, and the things
we can do are a lot oflike what Saint Francis and Wayne taught us
in terms of just having a higherlevel of respect. John Muir said that
this earth is like a church.It should be treated and respected like a
church. I mean, I've sometimesused the example. You know what if
all of us just said for amonth, I will not litter, and

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if I see a piece of litter, I will pick it up. You
can only imagine the impact that wouldhave people just by doing responsible things,
not taking more than you really need, you know, taking care to just
pick up after yourself, you know, Saint Francis pointed out that we need

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to slow down a little bit ifwe can. You know, that's not
the nature of our world, especiallyhere in the USA and other places.
But you know, during the pandemic, you know, the air over Beijing,
the most polluted city in the world, cleaned up. What it shows
us is that Earth has a tremendousresiliency to you know, to reform and

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regenerate if we give Earth a chance. The problem that what man has done
in the Industrial age is push theEarth so quickly, so far out of
balance. It's being very difficult forthe Earth to be able to rebalance and
bring itself back into you know,a better state than what we have now

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right now we have because we traptoo much heat. You know, we
have droughts, we have hurricanes,we have all of these things that are
indicative of the Earth being out ofbalance. And things like the Paris Agreement,
which is to try to bring limitglobal warming to no more than one
point five degree c by twenty fifty, which the Soul felt is doable.

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It's can take a lot of work. That's an effort to help the Earth
come back into balance, which theEarth wants to do, and it's a
sign of respect for the Earth thatwe realize we put her out of balance
and we're doing the things to tryto bring her back. That's what came
through. And the book is fullof their guidance in terms of what the

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readers can do to help the planet, you know, while we wait for
these you know, breakthroughs and soforth to come forward, and I'll read
several of them. On Gandhi wantedus to give thanks to those natural resources
when we take them, be thankful, be in a place of gratitude,

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and do not waste. And youknow, of course, doctor Dyer wanted
us to send love to Mother Earthregularly through meditations or visualizations. And I
keep hoping that since Earth Day istoday, April twenty second, I just
got goosebumps somebody is organized in somekind of a global meditation or a visualization

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for healing Mother Earth. That thatwould be beautiful, and so I will
look for that. Senator gay LordNelson, the founder of Earth Day,
he said, were things more thanonce you've all become too phobic about body
odor and so and so. Nowyou know, every time I go to
throw something in the hamper, Ifeel guilty. It's like, yeah,

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really, and you know. Theyalso said, you know that we need
to operate from the mindset that theEarth is a living thing, and Cousto
he said Antarctica should not be toucheduntil twenty thirty, not for mining or
fishing or drilling or anything. It'sa cold source for the world and it's

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got to be our primary focus.And gosh, just so many things so
that we must come together as onerecognize that we are all one. They
also talked about overfishing and to supportorganizations that are active in this area,

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such as Greenpeace, and I believeit was Cousto talked about how it's in
the development phase, but we're goingto be seeing seafood substitute foods out there.
So I'm a vegan as you.I don't know if you know that,
but I'm sure there are some ofthem. I mean that I think
is the greatest thing we can dois we I eat a plant based diet.

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But I know, I know whenI teach a group, you know,
auditorium rooms filled with people, Iknow there may be two vegans in
the whole room. However, Ihave one thing I do know people can
do this one meal a week.Go plant based. That'll save one animals
one meal a week. Right,you'll save one animals live. It's better

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for the ron, it's better forthe animals, and it's better for you.
You become more intuitive and there's somany good, yummy choices. Yeah,
you know, yeah, absolutely.I'd love to hear about Saint Francis's
interview as well, but we haveto take another break. We're talking about
introduce your book. Channels good channeledmessages altogether, Channel Messages of Hope,

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and the website is also Channel Messagesof Hope dot com. Awesome, Okay,
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are talking about an amazing book calledChannel messages of hope. And I have
John and Carolin Thomas with me andI was asking them if they could share
some of the messages from Saint Francis. We would love to. One of
the questions that John had asked SaintFrancis was, from your perspective, can
you please share why the people ofthe world are experiencing this particular issue global

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warming and climate change? And ifthere is a higher message learning or lesson,
can you please provide some insight here? And what Frank what Saint Francis
said was the lesson is that thepeople are not embracing the planet as a
loved one. They are looking forthe planet to blame at this time.
They are looking to say that theplanet has not them, it cannot keep

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up with their demands. But thatis what the lesson is. The Earth
is a living, breathing thing.If you were treated as such, you
would also be angry. The lessonis that we need to come together.
We need to be kind to eachother and honor each other. We need
to love each other as best wecan and love everything in our world.

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And that comes from kindness. Thatkindness needs to be shared with our planet,
and that kindness needs to be sharedwith the animals. We need to
see the earth as someone who canread our thoughts and read our intentions and
give the earth the respect that wewould ask, and that is to be
treated with kindness and honor. No, that's beautiful. Yeah, thank you,

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thank you for doing all this.This is an amazing book. We
have to get it out there.No, thank you, well, thank
you for helping us do that.Yeah. So, you know, I
could ask you many things, butI would ask I'm just going to tell
you to go what would you liketo discuss right now? You have so
much information, you have so manypeople that you interviewed. What would you

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like to talk about? You know? One thing I would like to mention
is that while the messages of hopearound the environment is the premise of this
book, but we got into manyother topics with these souls, including how
they transitioned, what they're doing onthe other side, you know, what
is it like on the other side. But I will say that one thing.

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And as we started doing the interviews, we started learning has more and
more questions about those types of things. And when we were talking to John
Muir, he revealed that right nowhe is because we asked, We asked
often are you coming back to Earthin a body? John Muir said,
well, I'm on Earth in abody right now in Canada. His current

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life and a body is an adolescentwho lives in Canada and likes to snowboard.
That's funny, and I was justlike, you know, we're talking
to the higher self. Souls havehad multiple lifetimes. Malava Einstein is currently
a psychotherapist in India because you knowher her mission is really to serve people

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with mental illness. Her son Edward, while she was married to Albert Einstein,
het schizophrenia, so you know,she mentioned us specifically that she's had
one hundred and twenty two lives ina body. And what was very interesting
what the souls would tell us is, you know, we're we're on this
earth in this lifetime to learn andto grow, and there's lessons we learned,

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and then there's lessons maybe we haveto come back later and learn again.
And one of the you know,we interviewed Ronald Reagan, and Ronald
Reagan said the main thing he's workingon is that he was constantly putting out
what he called a false persona.It wasn't his authentic self. He was
trying to portray an image at alltimes. And so what he's working on

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on the other side is to understandthat so he can become his authentic self.
And I'm sure you know, hewill come back in a body later
to work on that specific thing.But you know, the souls were you
know, not all souls are comingback in a body. We asked Samuel
Clemens. And by the way,why did we talk to Samuel Clemens aka

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Mark Twain for this book, isbecause Nikola Tesla. We would ask the
souls who else should we talk to? And Tesla said, you need to
talk to Samuel Clemens. And Iwas really scratching Samuel Clemens. What's he
got to do with any of this? You know, Well, it turns
out Samuel Clemens was a very prolificinvestor in technologies and he became very close

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to Nikola Tesla actually really yeah,and so that was kind of fascinating for
us, especially when when we startedtalking to him. But Samuel Clemens said
that, you know, I've graduated. I'm not coming back in a body.
Pretty good, huh. You know, these souls also had senses of
humor, and you could kind ofdo some banter with them now and then,

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but you know, learning about whatthey're doing. On the other side,
some were working groups. John McCainis working with George Washington and others
on preserving our democracy. You know, the John Muir is working with a
large group of souls that really appreciatenatural beauty and things like that, and

(40:27):
then helping through nudges and things likethat with people on earth who are interested
in that. So it's really fascinatingto us from the spiritual side of how
these souls are really operating. Andthe last point I'll make is that I
think it was we would ask howwere you? How did you know that
we would want to talk to you? And the soul the souls I forget

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whether one of them an owl cameto see them, Megan Reagan another one.
It was just they were telepathically kindof notified, I guess is the
right word. But the soul.But when there were souls that were on
the council, no one would tellus necessarily. But you know, Saint
Francis of Assi is clearly on thecouncil. He has seen every interview,

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and not all of the souls seeevery interview. In fact, I think
it was John Mure said, it'sa very hard ticket to get. But
if you do one of the interviewsand you're involved, then they were all
thrilled to be involved in this project. They would get to see some of
the other interviews, so well,that whole thing is just it's just very

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interesting, you know how And welearned more and more to try to ask
more and more questions. But notall souls would let us go there per
se. They wouldn't. They wouldsometimes say no, you can't know that.
Okay, what types of questions wouldn'tthey answer? I'm curious. Well,
for example, when we asked ourusual question of John McCain, how

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did you know that we wanted tospeak with you? And he said,
oh, I was called into thismeeting and by a group of souls And
I said who were these? AndI already knew the answer. Who was
this group of souls? They said, oh, the Council, And I'm
sure they were like stop but yeah. And you know, but another thing

(42:21):
I wanted to say about this is, you know, talking with all nineteen
of them, you know, theypresented themselves similar to how we knew them
on TV. Or read about themand biographies and things of that nature.
But they what struck me was theydidn't They were just so kind, you

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know, they were excited to bethere. For the most part. They
were just so honest and forthcoming andwithout ego, and you know, people
like Gondhi kind of surprised us.He had quite a sense of humor,
knew you know, his wisdom,you know, it's just amazing. But

(43:05):
we had some good laughs with himover some misunderstandings of English words, and
he wasn't sure what we were saying, and once we explained it, then
it became a running joke and thenit's just we had a lot of fun
with him. But they they werejust lovely, lovely to speak with,

(43:27):
and they were so excited about this, and it was very you know,
it made me feel good that theyfelt proud that we were doing this,
and I just didn't expect that theysee the bigger perspective. Yes, sole
purpose of this, This is justmy question. Any chance they talked about
extra I call them extra celestials,not extra terrestrial, but maybe not.

(43:52):
You know, it never occurred tome to go down that track, and
in future books, I certainly wouldlike to explore that more. Yeah,
see, because I know that thereare beings from other dimensions that are trying
to help our planet as well rightnow. They won't let us harm our

(44:15):
planet at this point. But I'mcurious, what is your biggest takeaway from
this whole thing? Both of you? Well, I think my biggest takeaway
was really having it, you know, made very clear that the Earth is
this Mother Earth has a soul,just like I have a soul and Carolyn

(44:38):
has a soul, and that we'reall connected, animals, planets, mother
Earth. Everything we do has impactto the other, and that there is
no Man is up here and everythingelse is down here. We're all one,
We're all connected, and we needto revere each other. I mean,
if everybody had that point of view, I do think we would see

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change. You know, we reallywould see change. And that somewhat out
of balance situation is what it waspointed out to us, is why Mother
Earth is not real happy about howshe's getting treated right now, and so
Man has the capacity to change that, both in terms of attitude and in

(45:20):
terms of our practices in our dayto day That was that was a really
good message of hope for me.Each one of us listeners out there,
each one of you can do correctAnd the biggest takeaway from me personally was
that it is all about love andthat we are all one one with each
other, the animals, all livingthings the planet, and that we're in

(45:45):
good hands and it's going to beokay, and that there's so many souls
who were diligently working on this,both on the other side and guiding people
on Earth. And you know,for example, that nuclear fusion technology is
really going to be a game changer. And I wanted to quote something that
Samuel Clemens had said when we weretalking about this technology, specifically the nuclear

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fusion and he said, I quote, I truly know and believe the world
is going to be a better,happier place in about twenty years. But
it doesn't mean y'all need to getlazy. So yeah, that's for sure.
That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Soare you going to be doing book

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two? Yes, I'm working onit right now, and to give you
an idea. So the book,it will likely be the topic will be
facing or overcoming great hardships, andI'd like to talk with souls who struggled

(46:52):
with depression addiction issues, physical disability, chronic pain, illness, eating disorders,
discrimination, persecution, etc. Anda soul that I recently started talking
with is Alexi Navolni, and I'myou know, I'm drawn to his extraordinary

(47:14):
courage in the face of great peril, and I'd like to tap into that
more. I think we could alluse some of that. I know that
I think give him daily and Itap into that. But I'm really curious.
I want to know more about that. But mostly the book will focus
on these souls, how were theyable to overcome challenges and actually make a

(47:35):
difference in this world while in abody. And for those who were not
able to triumph over their challenges,what their perspective on these issues is like
now from the other side. Andthen for like Book three and Book four,
I'm also drawn to the topic offorgiveness, both inward and outward forms

(47:58):
that came up quite a bit withthe in this first book how important forgiveness
is. And other book ideas includeconversations with spiritual and religious leaders in terms
of how they would handle everydig problemsthat we all face in this day and
age. And I'd like to talkabout the power of love and compassion for

(48:19):
others, and so topics such ofthe as those were really excited. It's
beautiful. This was this amazing interview, and Carolyn, I'm so glad you
joined us. Oh thank you.If you would each have the lasting words
of wisdom before we leave, whatwould you say with just a few words,

(48:40):
what we can do. Maybe it'sup to you what to say.
I think, for I guess myimpression is a couple things. One as
just lone individuals on this earth.If we treat this earth with respect,
both thanking her, appreciating her,clean up after ourselves, not taking more

(49:01):
than we need, just simple thingscan be you know, a very very
big deal in the overall environment thatwe all have to share, and that
the fact that it is all love, and that you know, the souls
are just as interested in helping usout on earth and they're available to us.

(49:22):
The separation is so small almost it'sprobably I mean, I'm the counsel
is here with us right now inthis interview. I know it because they
told us that they would be onthese interviews. So that's you know,
maybe you have something you want toask. I'd like to quit something that

(49:42):
Saint Francis had said. That reallysticks to me and I think about every
day and how we need to havemercy for each other and you know,
together we are all when I know, I keep coming back to this point,
but it's just so important, andwe need to have mercy and compassion
for each other and all living things, and if we have that, then

(50:07):
we're going to treat mother Earth muchbetter. And that's how we turn this
around. Beautiful. Thank you,And how can we people find you and
get your book? Well, thebest way to find us is on the
website www dot channeled messages of Hopedot com all one word, and on

(50:28):
that website you can even hear someof the certain audio pieces out of the
interviews. I feel interested in gettingthe book. It's on Amazon, but
you can find it off our websitetoo, and you know we're on Facebook
and things like that as well.So yeah, we hope, we hope
people get a chance to visit,and we just want to spread the word

(50:50):
to those that need it is whatwe're trying to do. That's so beautiful.
I thank you so much for doingwhat you're doing and making a difference
in the world. Thank you somuch. Thank you for having us,
for a pleasure. Yeah, okay, so tune in again to next month's
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Angel blessings to you now and alwaysbye bye. From our spirit,

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we perceive we are one humanity,awakening, sanctity, awareness, unity.
We are here to dance and seeour connection with everything, understanding who we

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are through the ways of the heart. Let's choose love, innergees, living
one in harmony with the knowledge aboutour we are the ones we've been waiting

(53:02):
for. We can do it withthe truth and bring new light into all
we do. We are in loveat our best in the week consciousness.

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As we grow consciously, we claimsovereignty for our lives. Lame Dan see
ground it in equality. Let's chooselove inner weeks, living one in harmony

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with the noggage at our core.We are the ones we've been waiting for.
We can do it with the truth, bring new line to all we
do. We are love at ourbest consciousness. There's a child like the

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mother within us. All we comeriscof looking up for one love to hear,
sisters and bra Let's choose in ourpeaks, living one in harmmly with

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the knowledge and at our call.We are the ones we've been waiting for.
We can do it with our truth, bring new life into all we
do. We are love at ourbest in the weak consciousness. We love

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at our best in the weak consciousness. Enter it to the week consciousness.

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We are all one. Whatever wedo to ourselves or another affects the whole.
May the divine within you guide youas to what steps to take to
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