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Well, hello, everyone, welcome to the Angel Quest Show. I'm Kareni,
author of Your Life After Their Death, Week, Consciousness and
the Angel Quest Oracle Deck. I am so happy that
Marguerite Mary regal Joso is my guest today. Marguerite is
the founder of Seven Sisters Mysteries School, a world renowned
teacher of sacred knowledge and the foremost authority on the
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history of virgin birth. A trusted mentor to people on
healing and spiritual paths, she draws on her decades long
research and experiences with Mother Mary and Mary Magdalene to
help uncover their hidden, timeless teachings and apply them to
our present day needs. She is the award winning author
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of several books, including the Secret Life of Mother Mary,
Divine Feminine Power for Personal Healing and Planetary Awakening, and
The Mystery Tradition of Miraculous Conception Mary and the Lineage
of Virgin Births. You can visit her on her website
at www dot Seven Sister Mystery School dot com. That's
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seven se ve N s I S T E R.
S Mystery school dot com. Welcome, Marguerite. Thank you so
much for joining us today.
Speaker 9 (03:38):
It's great to be here. Thank you for having me Karen.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
So, before we start, what is your personal relationship with
Mother Mary and what drew you to working with and
studying her? Ah, amazing, fascinating.
Speaker 9 (03:53):
Yeah, my personal relationship with Mother Mary is definitely evolving.
It's gone from kind of Catholic appreciation, you know, to
dismissal of her, you know, in my twenties and so
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forth and early thirties, to kind of being in a
holding pattern around her. And then when I started discovering
the sacred feminine, the goddess, I realized that Mother Mary
was the goddess that I was now getting interested in
who's been in my backyard the whole time. And so
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with that I started learning about her and looking at
her in a whole different way. And that was probably
my late thirties, and since then I've had a real
engagement with her, both as a researcher of her history
and as a I would say, a student of hers
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and maybe a client. I consider Mother Mary my my healer,
my spiritual mentor my character inspiration, my developed you know,
for my own development. And I've had many experiences of
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her with all of these things along the way. So
that's kind of the short story about that.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
I'd love to hear a little bit more, but the experience,
maybe one example of your experience with her.
Speaker 9 (05:32):
The most recent happened a couple of months ago as
of this recording, and I went into a therapeutic medicine
session and I had intended to call on Mother Mary
to come and be a healer for me with something
that I hadn't been really engaging with on the spiritual plane,
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certainly not on the owned state's plane, since my mother
had passed away. And that was the passing of my mother,
which happened fifty two years ago. So when I went
into this ceremonial space, my intention was for Mother Mary
to be with me to help me as a healer,
and in fact, I felt the presence of her, and
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I felt the presence of my mother's spirit. There was
a lot of healing that happened with my mother, a
lot of reconciling for myself, and the main way that
I experienced that was to feel Mother Mary her reality
as the Great Mother, the Great Goddess, holding me. And
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it was through that experience of unity, consciousness and understanding
that I am part of the universe, that there is
a larger, divine loving presence, that the law, all the
laws that I had felt about my mother's leaving me
very early on, was resolved. And so this is just,
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you know, one way that I've had the presence, and
I would say even intervention of Mother Mary in my
life very powerful, beautiful.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
In your book, you bring up some new information about
who Mother Mary actually was when she walked the earth
and what she did. You say Mary was a teacher
to her community, including to Jesus himself. Can you tell
us a little bit more about this.
Speaker 9 (07:37):
Yeah, I learned about this from some of the suppressed
material about Mother Mary. Her a gospel that is about
her infancy and childhood, as well as some of the
other Gnostics so called gospels, which name her as being
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present with Jesus, and also some of her suppressed biographies,
which are apparently, according to scholars, based on other suppressed
material that was circulated in you know, the early centuries
after the Resurrection but then came to be burned or
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you know, whatever it was. And I also draw on
this for this information, the information from a Hindu saint,
a late Hindu saint now passed, you know, passed on
named Shri Kleshwar, and he brought forth in his short
thirty six year life, a great deal of information about
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who Mother Mary really was, what her real relationship with
Jesus was, and how she was essentially the most powerful
master who had ever walked the planet bar Nunn, even
more so than Jesus, because it was through her that
Jesus came. And so what I've come to discover is
that she was a teacher. She was the head of
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the early Christian Empire, the early Christian let's say, enterprise,
especially after jesus crucifixion. She was the one who, you know,
we might call her the first Pope, if we're going
to use that terminology. She was the head of all
the male and female apostles, and she would teach them.
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She would have them go out and spread this spiritual
message of love and awakening to the known world at
the time, from you know, based out of the Middle
East and into Europe, North Africa and so forth, and
then she would have them come back and she would
mentor them once a year. She was the teacher of
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Mary Magdalen. They held the codes and the information about
how to use sacred medicines to help people open their consciousness.
They were called mirror for the Bearers. Mother Mary was
a healer. You know, all of this is documented in
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these materials.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
How can we find this information? It's just so fascinating.
I'd love to delve into this information.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Yeah. Well, you know, one of one of the one
of the suppressed gospels about her is called it's now
called the Infancy Gospel of James, but it was originally
called Birth of Mary, and so that can be found
online or there are books published with it. The Gospel
of Philip mentions Mother Mary's presence in Jesus' life, and
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then biographies the History of the Blessed Virgin, you know,
and others. There's another one by Maximus. It's attributed to
the the cleric Maximus, and there are others, you know,
if you poke around. So a lot of these are
actually cited in my book, The Secret Life of Mother Mary,
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so people can get more information that way also to find,
you know, some of these original sources.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
It's that's amazing. In the book, you say that she
was a healer. She even performed exorcisms.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
Yes, yes, she had that power along with Jesus to
release people of negative energies, negative spirits, you know, what
we might call spirit possession or anything that was related
to their illnesses, which it was understood then as it
is now by you know, the more enlightened folks that
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illness is also related to or sometimes even caused by
energies that connect with us. It's not just a physical phenomenon,
but there's a lot more to it that has to
do with interdimensional realities. So yes, Mother Mary knew how
to release people of these these tormenting beings that were
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you know, following them, pursuing them for goodness knows how long.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Amazing. You also talk about the relationship of the student
student teacher relationship between Mary Magdalene and Mother Mary. Why
was their story repressed?
Speaker 9 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, Mother Mary was was the mentor
to Mary Magdalene. She brought her up to be operating
at the level, at the level of the apostles, you know,
the the highest level initiates, okay, that were around Jesus,
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and from there Mother Mary Magdalene became the head of
the women apostles and followers and Peter became the head
of the men, and Mother Mary was the head of
both of them, and you know, all of the whole
commune unity. And I think why this information has been
suppressed is because we are in a patriarchal system where
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the contributions and the realities of women have been given
short shrift. They've been ignored, discarded, twisted around, denigrated, and
so it's all it's all part of this package that
we're calling patriarchy, which we're starting to awaken to and
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that we're healing from. And so with that, with with
with the advent of patriarchy, all of the things that
had to do with women's power, women's consciousness, women's sensibilities
just really went by the wayside.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
Yeah, and I heard you said she was in charge
of Mary Magdalene in charge of the women disciples. I
just WHOA. There were women disciples.
Speaker 9 (14:08):
Yeah, there were women disciples. And you know, we see
the names of some of these people in the New
Testament and in some of the other suppressed gospels like Johanna,
you know, and Salome and other ones, and these biographies. Yes,
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absolutely tell us that there was a group of these women,
and some of them supported Jesus with their money, including
Mary Magdalen because they were wealthy, and that there was
a female last supper. While Jesus was running the male
last supper, mother Mary was running a last supper with
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the women. Can you imagine that? Gosh, so all the
males that are readily available if you know how to dig.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
That's fascinating. This is all in your book.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
Yes. So I've put this together in a very readable
fashion to help people make sense of it, and to
take it out of the serious, intimidating scholarly language or
the more boring religious scholarly language, and to put it
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in something that everybody can here easily understand identify with
a lot of people say that the book is very
readable and that they've read it quickly, but then they
it's so rich that they have to kind of go
back to it. It's like a piece of cake, you know, chocolate,
flowerless cake that's so big that you have to take
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a little at a time. I think that's how this
book is the Secret Life of Mother Mary beautiful.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
This is another thing you discuss Mother Mary's role Basically,
using advanced physics in the conception and Resurrection of Jesus
can you tell us more about this.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
Yeah, So in the Secret Life of Mother Mary, I
kind of give a summary of this information, but the
bulk of it is in the previous book which you
mentioned the mystery tradition of miraculous conception, and the way
I've been able to discern this material is by sifting
through her the infancy Gospel of James again called the
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Birth of Mary, and in that you start understanding that
Mother Mary was working with the energies of sound, the
energies of light, the presences of the angelic beings, and
other kinds of esoteric technologies. We might say, as she
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was working with her body in a very high advanced
yogic way. What she was doing was some of the
highest level functioning that a priestess could do in the
ancient world, and that was to conceive a child without
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male sperm being involved. So that did involve a quantum
encounter with the DNA with the light matter interface, and
so she was really something of a scientist, you might say,
in this regard, a spiritual scientist, and she had to
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know or understand or have access to this information on
many levels in order to be able to do what
she did. Conceiving a child in this way. And my
research indicates that virgin birth really was a real thing.
It really was a yogic practice of women. We see
it mentioned all over the place. Mother Mary's mother Anne
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gave birth to her this way. Elizabeth, the mother of
John the Baptist, gave birth to John the Baptist this way. Sarah,
the mother of the biblical Isaac, gave birth to Isaac
this way. And we have many stories of this loud
sue being born this way.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Buddha.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
You know, if you know how to interpret these stories,
you understand. Even Plato, Pythagoras, and Alexander the Great are
said to have been born via the miraculous technologies of
their mothers, who were priestesses. So this is something that
I've uncovered over the past I guess fifteen years or so,
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which is a major part of my life work and
a major part of this unveiling of Mother Mary as well.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
With all this said and done, can divine children be
conceived today, not just back then, but now and how
and by all exactly?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well?
Speaker 9 (18:55):
I do know of some women who claim to have
divinely conceived children. One is discussed in my book The
Mystery tradition of miraculous conception. We call her by a
pseudonym named Laurie because she never wanted to be identified.
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But she divinely, miraculously conceived on Christmas Eve nineteen seventy four.
She had not had any sexual relations. She saw like
a flash of light, and that's typical of how virgin
birth happens. It's through that quantum interface with light. She
did give birth to the child. It only lived three
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months and then it died. And apparently this is a
very sad episode in this woman's life. She doesn't talk
about it. I have not been able to contact her.
She's friends with my friend Den Poeitris, who has written
a book Parthenogenesis, about which elaborates on this story. I
also know of a Hindu female master named Alma, divine Alma.
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This is not the Amachi who's the hugging saint, but
this is another one who lives in India with her
Swami husband. And she says that while her husband was away,
she was able to kind of communicate with him telepathically
and conceive her daughter in her third eye and then
eventually in the womb, and that daughter is now alive.
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She's in her late twenties or early thirties. And there
are other stories of women who there's another story of
a woman in Mexico who feels that she had a
divine conception through the god ketzel Quaddle and that child
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lived until he was three and then he died. He
just he died in a choking incident. So these children
right now, it's almost as though the planet is not
really ready to handle them, the vibration is not ready
to handle them, and so they pass from us. But
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for all we know, Karen, there could be other people
who have been born this way and walking around that
we just don't know about. And this has kept a
very great secret, and for good reason, because whenever these
children are found out, they are targeted. And that's what
we had with Jesus and John the Baptist. When the
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soothsayers and powers that be in the Roman Empire got
wind that two boys were divinely born, they started chasing them,
and that's where we had the escape to Egypt, and
Elizabeth hid John the Baptist up in the mountains and
so forth, and he didn't emerge until decades later. From quote,
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you know the wilderness regions.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
You know It's a big mystery that I think will
be unfolding over the next decades as women come to
understand stand their womb power in a much more profound way.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
Beautiful, Thank you so Marguerite. We have to take a
short break, but we'll be right back.
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Com, Hudson River Radio dot com. So welcome back to
the Angel Quest show. I have with me Marguerite rigal
Joso and we're talking about her amazing book, The Secret
Life of Mother Mary. We were talking about the virgin
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births and how how it comes about and maybe that
it's still happening now now maybe it is. I was
at skaying Marguerite during the break. If this has anything
to do with other dimensions, other planets, you know, the eighties.
I know you mentioned this in your book. Can you
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tell us more about that.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
Yes, it absolutely does because one of the major pieces
of my research, not only in this book but in
my previous books of the cult of divine birth in
ancient Greece especially, I talk extensively about the Seven Sisters
of the Plei Eightes' relationship to the human race and
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that it is worldwide understood from ancient Greece into many
native traditions that the Seven Sisters of the Plei Eightes
are seven star mother ceders of large portions of humanity,
and what I uncovered is that their mechanism was parthenogenesis
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divine birth. I have a colleague named William Henry who
believes that these seven women beings, female beings from seven
different worlds of the Ple Eightes, literally transformed, transfigured themselves,
if you will, beamed them down themselves down to the
Earth plane, and then began operating here conceiving children divinely.
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Although it's a little bit more of a complicated story
because they were intercepted by negative energies that they didn't
want that seed involved, but nonetheless it happened. But they
wanted to give a lot of their DNA to humanity
to help us up level ourselves after a time of
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us really being downgraded through lots of different hybriding projects,
if you will, by interdimensionals. And if this sounds bizarre
to most people, it's not going to sound bizarre as
the years and decades go on.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
And so.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
These seven sisters understood the process of parthenogenesis or virgin birth,
that self conception, and Mary did as well, and her
mother Anne did as well. This is again a female
spiritual technology, and this connects Mother Mary to the Ple Eightes,
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the seven Sisters of the Ple Eightes, and Mother Mary
is also connected to them. We know by virtue of
the fact that one of her symbols is the dove
which is also the symbol of the Holy Spirit or Jesus,
and that was the very symbol used to describe these
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seven women, the seven females who came from the Ple Eightes.
They were considered star doves or dove women. And what
I've received in my own ceremonial space is that while
those were the seven sisters of the Ple Eightes, Mother
Mary was the eighth sister who came down to similarly
bring a high level being to the planet, because the
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purpose of this divine birth was is and shall be,
when used with integrity, to bring a higher level avatar
to help humanity raise itself up, improve its vibration, learn
new things, remember who we are as divine beings ourselves,
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and so forth. So Mother Mary's role was very great
in bringing Jesus here, but she wasn't the only female,
either embodied or a star being, to have ever done
this on the planet. As I've described, there were also
other women, and there are numerous ones mentioned in the
Greek tradition as well.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
And who are these women in the Greek In.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
The Greek tradition, we've got again the mothers of the
mother of Plato Perictione, the mother of Pythagoras, Pythias, the
mother of Alexander the Great Olympius. And you know there
there are others that are named as nymphs. You know,
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eo Is is connected with this. You know, all of
these stories about these ancient priestesses, even Nikaya who would
have been a priestess of Dionysus. And Nikaya is the
one whose name was given to the town that is
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commonly pronounced as Nicea, which is where the great councils,
so to speak of these Christian patriarchs met in like
the fourth or fifth century to create all of the
programmed creeds and beliefs that then the Church that shall
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remain unnamed promulgated and basically, you know, they co opted
all the belief the belief systems, they controlled them. So
it's interesting that the Nicean creed is really named after
a divine birth priestess that was associated with Dionysus. And
you know, there were various methods by which these women
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gave were able to conceive, and the highest level was
the parthenogenesis, the self conception that Mother Mary did, that
the pleiatees did, but there was a tonric practice as well,
where the man and the woman generally the priestess and
the priest or, the queen and the king would get
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together in a very high level conception right a ceremonial rite.
They would conceive a divine child that way. So there's
a lot to this. I discuss it plentifully in the
Mystery Tradition of Miraculous Conception. But it really does open
up doors to our understandings about women's womb power and
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what is possible here for us today. This is not
just about ancient practices that are no longer operating. There's
quite a bit to it.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
It's fascinating you say Mary was also a stepmother and
also had a sister. These are things that we never
hear about. Can you tell us more?
Speaker 9 (30:36):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
So.
Speaker 9 (30:39):
In the Infancy Gospel of James or the Birth of
Mary Gospel, we learn that mother Mary is paired up
with Joseph as her guardian. They never have a formal marriage,
they never have conjugal relations. He is just a protector
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to her as she engages in the divine conception right
to bring forth Jesus. And at some point she is
brought into his household. And he has had children from
a wife who is now no longer on the planet,
and we see several of them named in that gospel,
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and then I believe we also see them named in
the Christian Bible, where there are at least three boys
and two girls that are the original sons of Joseph
that really were not Mary's children, but she would be
the caretaker of them. And in the Life of the
Life of the Virgin by Maximus, presumably he talks about
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how she came into the household at a young age.
She was somewhere between twelve and sixteen, and she became
the head of the head of the household, the teacher
of these children. And Joseph really trusted her to be
able to have that level of maturity, because she herself
was a very high being by virtue of the fact
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that she was born of Anne in virgin fashion, and
she had had, according to Shri Kuleshwar, many lives, many
lifetimes to perfect her soul. So when she came onto
this planet as Mary Boom, she hit the ground running.
She was a very very advanced master, you know, of
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the spiritual arts, of the magical arts, and so forth,
and so of course she would be an elevated type
of parent to these children and they venerated her and
several of them, you know, James became the actual head
of the church. The women came to follow her and
so forth. So it was really, this is really something
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that's readily available in the texts, but again is not
emphasized by the church, that she'll remain uni aimed because
of the desire by patriarchy to dismiss women's power, and
certainly Mother Mary's power, because it is threatening to a
patriarchal establishment. So that was one part of your question.
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I think there was another part of your question.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Said was a step Anne she had a sister as well.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
She had a sister. Yeah, another little little known fact,
but you can find it in these tracts. It turns
out that after you see Anne and Joahim her partner,
gave Mother Mary up to the temple when she was
three years old. They realized she was a very high
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being and they had made a commitment to offer her
in service to the divine so they brought her to
the temple.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
That was it.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
They may or may not have seen her again. But
Anne did have another child. She had a girl, and
this is presumably through sexual relating, and there are it
sounds like she Joahim. Her original partner had died, and
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she went with another partner named Clophus or Cleopus, and
it was through him that she had this second daughter.
And originally, according to these texts, the name was patu
Ghita of this girl, which meant in ancient Greek little hen.
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But she also came to have the name Mary, which
means It's part of the evidence that I discovered that
Mary originally was not really a personal name. It was
a priestess title conferred upon these special women who were
masters of the sacred heart, masters of these quantum womb mysteries,
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masters of the oracle arts, you know, being able to
see and do these healings. So she became a Mary. Also,
Mother Mary's stepsister became a Mary. And in the Gospel
of Philip, we hear that Mother Mary, this second Mary,
and a third Mary, Mary Magdalene. All three Marys walked
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with Jesus all the time.
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Very interesting. Today we're speaking with Marguerite Rigal Yoso and
we're talking about her both the secret life of Mother Mary.
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Okay, and welcome back to the Angel Quest Show. We're
talking about the secret life of Mother Mary and Marguerite.
I have to ask you a question. How can we
see Mother Mary in a different way?
Speaker 9 (36:20):
Yeah, you know, we were chatting a little bit, both
of us being Italian girls, right, oh yeah, grown up
with the church that shall remain unnamed. And I don't
know about you, but it was like a side you know,
as I said earlier, aside from having some level of okay,
this was a sainted holy woman. As I got older
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and came into my own sexuality, I wanted nothing to
do with her because she was used as such a
repressive role model for women. Girls. We couldn't have sex,
we couldn't have sex before marriage, We had to be obedient, right,
I mean, all of these things that none of us
growing up in then the seventies, eighties, nineties, you know,
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coming into the modern world, wanted to be or wanted
to emulate. And so that's why for many years, you know,
I turned my eyes away from Mother Mary. And I
think a lot of people have and a lot of
people in your listenership, you know who may have been
brought up in this tradition that shall remain unnamed, may
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have had the same experience and might be saying, well,
who cares about Mother Mary. Luckily, there are many people
actually who do end up having beautiful personal relationships despite
all of that suppression. And the thing is that I'm
writing both for people who have always understood Mother Mary
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in a different way and for those who haven't, for
those who you know, like us, were given the good
girl image that we wanted to run screaming away from
and never have anything to do with, because I want
people to understand who Mother Man Mary really was, is
and shall be. This is critical to our emancipation, not
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only as women, but as a whole human species. We
need to understand the extraordinary powers of this woman that
are possible for all of us to develop if we
decide to go on a committed path to awakening our
spiritual selves. And it doesn't mean going into a month's
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monks cell, it doesn't mean going into any specific religion.
It means really awakening to the true mystical esoteric power
within behind and underneath Mother Mary, the very thing that
has been suppressed, so that we can start understanding how
to conceive higher level children, those of us you know,
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who are having children, so that we can understand how
to be healers, so that we can understand where we're
going after death, so that we can understand what are
the multiple layers that go into illness, and truly heal
ourselves so that we can come into balance on this planet,
and so that we can turn things around. You know,
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we are on the cusp of a very interesting event
as of the filming or you know, the recording of
this that has the US and the whole world all
up in arms and divided. This kind of very upsetting
scenario of lack of leadership or questionable leadership or whatever
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it is, is precisely an indicator that we've got to
look back to ourselves for leadership, and Mother Mary is
one such master mentor to help point us in a
direction that is not dogmatic, that is not reinitiating us
into any particular church, but that is truly awakening our
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souls and our spirits so that we can be productive,
healing citizens on planet Earth and turn this ship around.
Speaker 8 (40:09):
Allelulia, Oh my goodness, I could just speak with you
all day. But I have a question too, another question.
You have an entire chapter devoted to how Mother Mary
made her passage out of this world, achieving the rainbow
body that so many people seek and transitioning from human
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being to full fledged goddess. Can you let us know
more about this?
Speaker 9 (40:36):
Yes, and this is such a critical piece of her reality.
It's what we could call her ascension. Now, for some
listeners to your show, they will know what that is.
It's something that people in the esoteric mystical spiritual community
now are talking about a lot. I want my ascension.
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I want to be liberated from all the limitations of
human life. When I leave my body after this lifetime,
I want to go to the illumined and the enlightened place.
And so Mother Mary accomplished that in the biggest way
that a human being could have through her many lifetimes,
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according to Shri Kuleshwar of practices, perfecting herself, her soul,
her knowledge, so that in this final lifetime as Mother Mary,
she was ready. And what I describe in the Secret
Life of Mother Mary is what's written in one of
her biographies called the Six Books narrative about what the
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Church that shall remain unnamed calls her dormission. So they
didn't get it all wrong. She really didn't die, but
she just transformed, for which in fact, is what we
all do when we leave our bodies. But Mother Mary
did it in a very big, celebrated way which allowed
her to absolutely unify her soul with the divine principle
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with Mother Goddess, and we call that going rainbow body.
Monks are attributed to have done this, Jesus even himself.
You know where the body disappears, and it's not because
it's stolen. It's because the body, the being knows how
to take absolutely every drop of life force out of
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the body so that the physical biology disintegrates, and then
they they go zenith, they go quasar into a like body.
And the phenomenon sometimes is seen above people who are
making this passage as a rainbow light. I mean, it
really is remarkable. And there's a description in one of
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these you know, in this in this dormsicion narrative, that
a light was seen. Okay, a light was seen when
this was happening. So people should really look at the
book and see the stages of the ritual that she
goes through, the stages that her consciousness goes through the
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stages that her body goes through, because there are a
lot of codes, instructional codes there for people who want
to have a conscious death.
Speaker 8 (43:26):
Shall we say so, is Mother Mary still a living
presence as you say it? And how can she be
our personal healer today?
Speaker 9 (43:41):
Yes, I very much see her as a living presence,
And Karen, the important thing is that she is a
living presence that is but a mirror to our own souls.
She is not separate and apart from us. She is
not a being to be worshiped. That my understanding is
she She is not here for that. She is here
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to show us our power if we call upon the
intelligence of her spirit, ask her to work with us
in our lives. I've worked with her as a personal healer.
As I began this conversation, I've experienced numerous instances of
her affecting great healings in my life. And I've experienced
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her as a mentor. When I go into meditations, I
receive information, new insights about who she is, how I
can run my life, how I can teach others. So
she is available for this on all of these different levels.
And it's really my intention that the Secret Life of
Mother Mary be a very big door opening for a
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lot of people to go much more deeply into her world.
This is for.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
Us so beautiful. Well, so we're ending the hours soon.
I just want if you could tell us how people
could find you and if you have any special events
coming up and where and when?
Speaker 9 (45:14):
Yes, So, the easiest way, as you mentioned at the beginning,
is to go to my website Seven Sisters Mystery School
dot com and the seven is written out Seve and
there are a wealth of things We're always keeping you updated.
You can sign up for our Sunday e newsletter. I've
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got many things going on all the time. And for
those who are within driving distance of Massachusetts, Methuen, Massachusetts,
I've got a book reading for the Secret Life of
Mother Mary for free on Friday, November eighth at the
Circles of Wisdom store in Methuen, Massachusetts. And then the
next day I have an in person workshop called Connecting
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with Mother Mary and Mary Magdalen as healers, mentors and guides,
so helping people to you know, have the experience exactly
of what you were asking me about, to explore not
only their histories.
Speaker 7 (46:19):
But.
Speaker 9 (46:20):
To uncover, you know, engage in practices to connect with
their healing presence and activate their wisdom in our lives
and gain insights and tools for advancing our spiritual journey.
So that's just one thing. But again, if people get
on my newsletter, they will be kept abreassed. I also
have a YouTube channel, the Marguerite regal Joso YouTube channel,
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and I have many many interviews and my own show
that's on their Bridging Dimensions, where sometimes I serve as
a live oracle in the using Lady Cannabis as an
ally to help me open my consciousness. And I have
have one such event coming up November first, eleven thirty
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am on the Bridging Dimension Show on my YouTube channel,
so people can check into that.
Speaker 8 (47:09):
It will be live, beautiful. And before we say goodbye,
why does the world need this Mother Mary right now?
Speaker 9 (47:21):
Because we're all really so hurting, we are in so
much pain. We think this is just the way it is,
just life, this brief, semi miserable life, and then we
go to who knows where and everyone's terrified. But that's
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not how it is, and she's here to help us
heal our own pain and then understand what's on the
other side of the veil, so that we can be
in communication and working with these interdimensional intelligences for our
personal betterment and our planetary betterment.
Speaker 8 (48:06):
Wow, thank you so much for joining us today. It
was fascinating. You are amazing. Thank you again.
Speaker 9 (48:14):
You're welcome. Thank you, Karen. It's been wonderful being here.
And many blessings to all those listeners who are tuning
into this and either saying Aha, I knew it or
are saying, wow, this is the first time I've ever
heard anything like that.
Speaker 8 (48:28):
Check it out. Thank you. Okay, tune in again to
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Speaker 8 (02:20):
Well, hello, everyone, welcome to the Angel Quest Show. I'm Kareni,
author of Your Life After Their Death, Week, Consciousness and
the Angel Quest Oracle Deck. I am so happy that
Marguerite Mary regal Joso is my guest today. Marguerite is
the founder of Seven Sisters Mysteries School, a world renowned
teacher of sacred knowledge and the foremost authority on the
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history of virgin birth. A trusted mentor to people on
healing and spiritual paths, she draws on her decades long
research and experiences with Mother Mary and Mary Magdalene to
help uncover their hidden, timeless teachings and apply them to
our present day needs. She is the award winning author
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of several books, including the Secret Life of Mother Mary,
Divine Feminine Power for Personal Healing and Planetary Awakening, and
The Mystery Tradition of Miraculous Conception Mary and the Lineage
of Virgin Births. You can visit her on her website
at www dot Seven Sister Mystery School dot com. That's
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seven se ve N s I S T E R.
S Mystery school dot com. Welcome, Marguerite. Thank you so
much for joining us today.
Speaker 9 (03:38):
It's great to be here. Thank you for having me Karen.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
So, before we start, what is your personal relationship with
Mother Mary and what drew you to working with and
studying her? Ah, amazing, fascinating.
Speaker 9 (03:53):
Yeah, my personal relationship with Mother Mary is definitely evolving.
It's gone from kind of Catholic appreciation, you know, to
dismissal of her, you know, in my twenties and so
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forth and early thirties, to kind of being in a
holding pattern around her. And then when I started discovering
the sacred feminine, the goddess, I realized that Mother Mary
was the goddess that I was now getting interested in
who's been in my backyard the whole time. And so
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with that I started learning about her and looking at
her in a whole different way. And that was probably
my late thirties, and since then I've had a real
engagement with her, both as a researcher of her history
and as a I would say, a student of hers
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and maybe a client. I consider Mother Mary my my healer,
my spiritual mentor my character inspiration, my developed you know,
for my own development. And I've had many experiences of
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her with all of these things along the way. So
that's kind of the short story about that.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
I'd love to hear a little bit more, but the experience,
maybe one example of your experience with her.
Speaker 9 (05:32):
The most recent happened a couple of months ago as
of this recording, and I went into a therapeutic medicine
session and I had intended to call on Mother Mary
to come and be a healer for me with something
that I hadn't been really engaging with on the spiritual plane,
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certainly not on the owned state's plane, since my mother
had passed away. And that was the passing of my mother,
which happened fifty two years ago. So when I went
into this ceremonial space, my intention was for Mother Mary
to be with me to help me as a healer,
and in fact, I felt the presence of her, and
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I felt the presence of my mother's spirit. There was
a lot of healing that happened with my mother, a
lot of reconciling for myself, and the main way that
I experienced that was to feel Mother Mary her reality
as the Great Mother, the Great Goddess, holding me. And
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it was through that experience of unity, consciousness and understanding
that I am part of the universe, that there is
a larger, divine loving presence, that the law, all the
laws that I had felt about my mother's leaving me
very early on, was resolved. And so this is just,
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you know, one way that I've had the presence, and
I would say even intervention of Mother Mary in my
life very powerful, beautiful.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
In your book, you bring up some new information about
who Mother Mary actually was when she walked the earth
and what she did. You say Mary was a teacher
to her community, including to Jesus himself. Can you tell
us a little bit more about this.
Speaker 9 (07:37):
Yeah, I learned about this from some of the suppressed
material about Mother Mary. Her a gospel that is about
her infancy and childhood, as well as some of the
other Gnostics so called gospels, which name her as being
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present with Jesus, and also some of her suppressed biographies,
which are apparently, according to scholars, based on other suppressed
material that was circulated in you know, the early centuries
after the Resurrection but then came to be burned or
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you know, whatever it was. And I also draw on
this for this information, the information from a Hindu saint,
a late Hindu saint now passed, you know, passed on
named Shri Kleshwar, and he brought forth in his short
thirty six year life, a great deal of information about
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who Mother Mary really was, what her real relationship with
Jesus was, and how she was essentially the most powerful
master who had ever walked the planet bar Nunn, even
more so than Jesus, because it was through her that
Jesus came. And so what I've come to discover is
that she was a teacher. She was the head of
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the early Christian Empire, the early Christian let's say, enterprise,
especially after jesus crucifixion. She was the one who, you know,
we might call her the first Pope, if we're going
to use that terminology. She was the head of all
the male and female apostles, and she would teach them.
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She would have them go out and spread this spiritual
message of love and awakening to the known world at
the time, from you know, based out of the Middle
East and into Europe, North Africa and so forth, and
then she would have them come back and she would
mentor them once a year. She was the teacher of
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Mary Magdalen. They held the codes and the information about
how to use sacred medicines to help people open their consciousness.
They were called mirror for the Bearers. Mother Mary was
a healer. You know, all of this is documented in
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these materials.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
How can we find this information? It's just so fascinating.
I'd love to delve into this information.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Yeah. Well, you know, one of one of the one
of the suppressed gospels about her is called it's now
called the Infancy Gospel of James, but it was originally
called Birth of Mary, and so that can be found
online or there are books published with it. The Gospel
of Philip mentions Mother Mary's presence in Jesus' life, and
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then biographies the History of the Blessed Virgin, you know,
and others. There's another one by Maximus. It's attributed to
the the cleric Maximus, and there are others, you know,
if you poke around. So a lot of these are
actually cited in my book, The Secret Life of Mother Mary,
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so people can get more information that way also to find,
you know, some of these original sources.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
It's that's amazing. In the book, you say that she
was a healer. She even performed exorcisms.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
Yes, yes, she had that power along with Jesus to
release people of negative energies, negative spirits, you know, what
we might call spirit possession or anything that was related
to their illnesses, which it was understood then as it
is now by you know, the more enlightened folks that
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illness is also related to or sometimes even caused by
energies that connect with us. It's not just a physical phenomenon,
but there's a lot more to it that has to
do with interdimensional realities. So yes, Mother Mary knew how
to release people of these these tormenting beings that were
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you know, following them, pursuing them for goodness knows how long.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Amazing. You also talk about the relationship of the student
student teacher relationship between Mary Magdalene and Mother Mary. Why
was their story repressed?
Speaker 9 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, Mother Mary was was the mentor
to Mary Magdalene. She brought her up to be operating
at the level, at the level of the apostles, you know,
the the highest level initiates, okay, that were around Jesus,
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and from there Mother Mary Magdalene became the head of
the women apostles and followers and Peter became the head
of the men, and Mother Mary was the head of
both of them, and you know, all of the whole
commune unity. And I think why this information has been
suppressed is because we are in a patriarchal system where
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the contributions and the realities of women have been given
short shrift. They've been ignored, discarded, twisted around, denigrated, and
so it's all it's all part of this package that
we're calling patriarchy, which we're starting to awaken to and
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that we're healing from. And so with that, with with
with the advent of patriarchy, all of the things that
had to do with women's power, women's consciousness, women's sensibilities
just really went by the wayside.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
Yeah, and I heard you said she was in charge
of Mary Magdalene in charge of the women disciples. I
just WHOA. There were women disciples.
Speaker 9 (14:08):
Yeah, there were women disciples. And you know, we see
the names of some of these people in the New
Testament and in some of the other suppressed gospels like Johanna,
you know, and Salome and other ones, and these biographies. Yes,
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absolutely tell us that there was a group of these women,
and some of them supported Jesus with their money, including
Mary Magdalen because they were wealthy, and that there was
a female last supper. While Jesus was running the male
last supper, mother Mary was running a last supper with
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the women. Can you imagine that? Gosh, so all the
males that are readily available if you know how to dig.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
That's fascinating. This is all in your book.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
Yes. So I've put this together in a very readable
fashion to help people make sense of it, and to
take it out of the serious, intimidating scholarly language or
the more boring religious scholarly language, and to put it
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in something that everybody can here easily understand identify with
a lot of people say that the book is very
readable and that they've read it quickly, but then they
it's so rich that they have to kind of go
back to it. It's like a piece of cake, you know, chocolate,
flowerless cake that's so big that you have to take
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a little at a time. I think that's how this
book is the Secret Life of Mother Mary beautiful.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
This is another thing you discuss Mother Mary's role Basically,
using advanced physics in the conception and Resurrection of Jesus
can you tell us more about this.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
Yeah, So in the Secret Life of Mother Mary, I
kind of give a summary of this information, but the
bulk of it is in the previous book which you
mentioned the mystery tradition of miraculous conception, and the way
I've been able to discern this material is by sifting
through her the infancy Gospel of James again called the
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Birth of Mary, and in that you start understanding that
Mother Mary was working with the energies of sound, the
energies of light, the presences of the angelic beings, and
other kinds of esoteric technologies. We might say, as she
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was working with her body in a very high advanced
yogic way. What she was doing was some of the
highest level functioning that a priestess could do in the
ancient world, and that was to conceive a child without
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male sperm being involved. So that did involve a quantum
encounter with the DNA with the light matter interface, and
so she was really something of a scientist, you might say,
in this regard, a spiritual scientist, and she had to
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know or understand or have access to this information on
many levels in order to be able to do what
she did. Conceiving a child in this way. And my
research indicates that virgin birth really was a real thing.
It really was a yogic practice of women. We see
it mentioned all over the place. Mother Mary's mother Anne
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gave birth to her this way. Elizabeth, the mother of
John the Baptist, gave birth to John the Baptist this way. Sarah,
the mother of the biblical Isaac, gave birth to Isaac
this way. And we have many stories of this loud
sue being born this way.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Buddha.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
You know, if you know how to interpret these stories,
you understand. Even Plato, Pythagoras, and Alexander the Great are
said to have been born via the miraculous technologies of
their mothers, who were priestesses. So this is something that
I've uncovered over the past I guess fifteen years or so,
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which is a major part of my life work and
a major part of this unveiling of Mother Mary as well.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
With all this said and done, can divine children be
conceived today, not just back then, but now and how
and by all exactly?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well?
Speaker 9 (18:55):
I do know of some women who claim to have
divinely conceived children. One is discussed in my book The
Mystery tradition of miraculous conception. We call her by a
pseudonym named Laurie because she never wanted to be identified.
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But she divinely, miraculously conceived on Christmas Eve nineteen seventy four.
She had not had any sexual relations. She saw like
a flash of light, and that's typical of how virgin
birth happens. It's through that quantum interface with light. She
did give birth to the child. It only lived three
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months and then it died. And apparently this is a
very sad episode in this woman's life. She doesn't talk
about it. I have not been able to contact her.
She's friends with my friend Den Poeitris, who has written
a book Parthenogenesis, about which elaborates on this story. I
also know of a Hindu female master named Alma, divine Alma.
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This is not the Amachi who's the hugging saint, but
this is another one who lives in India with her
Swami husband. And she says that while her husband was away,
she was able to kind of communicate with him telepathically
and conceive her daughter in her third eye and then
eventually in the womb, and that daughter is now alive.
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She's in her late twenties or early thirties. And there
are other stories of women who there's another story of
a woman in Mexico who feels that she had a
divine conception through the god ketzel Quaddle and that child
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lived until he was three and then he died. He
just he died in a choking incident. So these children
right now, it's almost as though the planet is not
really ready to handle them, the vibration is not ready
to handle them, and so they pass from us. But
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for all we know, Karen, there could be other people
who have been born this way and walking around that
we just don't know about. And this has kept a
very great secret, and for good reason, because whenever these
children are found out, they are targeted. And that's what
we had with Jesus and John the Baptist. When the
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soothsayers and powers that be in the Roman Empire got
wind that two boys were divinely born, they started chasing them,
and that's where we had the escape to Egypt, and
Elizabeth hid John the Baptist up in the mountains and
so forth, and he didn't emerge until decades later. From quote,
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you know the wilderness regions.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
You know It's a big mystery that I think will
be unfolding over the next decades as women come to
understand stand their womb power in a much more profound way.
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Com, Hudson River Radio dot com. So welcome back to
the Angel Quest show. I have with me Marguerite rigal
Joso and we're talking about her amazing book, The Secret
Life of Mother Mary. We were talking about the virgin
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births and how how it comes about and maybe that
it's still happening now now maybe it is. I was
at skaying Marguerite during the break. If this has anything
to do with other dimensions, other planets, you know, the eighties.
I know you mentioned this in your book. Can you
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tell us more about that.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
Yes, it absolutely does because one of the major pieces
of my research, not only in this book but in
my previous books of the cult of divine birth in
ancient Greece especially, I talk extensively about the Seven Sisters
of the Plei Eightes' relationship to the human race and
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that it is worldwide understood from ancient Greece into many
native traditions that the Seven Sisters of the Plei Eightes
are seven star mother ceders of large portions of humanity,
and what I uncovered is that their mechanism was parthenogenesis
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divine birth. I have a colleague named William Henry who
believes that these seven women beings, female beings from seven
different worlds of the Ple Eightes, literally transformed, transfigured themselves,
if you will, beamed them down themselves down to the
Earth plane, and then began operating here conceiving children divinely.
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Although it's a little bit more of a complicated story
because they were intercepted by negative energies that they didn't
want that seed involved, but nonetheless it happened. But they
wanted to give a lot of their DNA to humanity
to help us up level ourselves after a time of
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us really being downgraded through lots of different hybriding projects,
if you will, by interdimensionals. And if this sounds bizarre
to most people, it's not going to sound bizarre as
the years and decades go on.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
And so.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
These seven sisters understood the process of parthenogenesis or virgin birth,
that self conception, and Mary did as well, and her
mother Anne did as well. This is again a female
spiritual technology, and this connects Mother Mary to the Ple Eightes,
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the seven Sisters of the Ple Eightes, and Mother Mary
is also connected to them. We know by virtue of
the fact that one of her symbols is the dove
which is also the symbol of the Holy Spirit or Jesus,
and that was the very symbol used to describe these
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seven women, the seven females who came from the Ple Eightes.
They were considered star doves or dove women. And what
I've received in my own ceremonial space is that while
those were the seven sisters of the Ple Eightes, Mother
Mary was the eighth sister who came down to similarly
bring a high level being to the planet, because the
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purpose of this divine birth was is and shall be,
when used with integrity, to bring a higher level avatar
to help humanity raise itself up, improve its vibration, learn
new things, remember who we are as divine beings ourselves,
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and so forth. So Mother Mary's role was very great
in bringing Jesus here, but she wasn't the only female,
either embodied or a star being, to have ever done
this on the planet. As I've described, there were also
other women, and there are numerous ones mentioned in the
Greek tradition as well.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
And who are these women in the Greek In.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
The Greek tradition, we've got again the mothers of the
mother of Plato Perictione, the mother of Pythagoras, Pythias, the
mother of Alexander the Great Olympius. And you know there
there are others that are named as nymphs. You know,
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eo Is is connected with this. You know, all of
these stories about these ancient priestesses, even Nikaya who would
have been a priestess of Dionysus. And Nikaya is the
one whose name was given to the town that is
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commonly pronounced as Nicea, which is where the great councils,
so to speak of these Christian patriarchs met in like
the fourth or fifth century to create all of the
programmed creeds and beliefs that then the Church that shall
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remain unnamed promulgated and basically, you know, they co opted
all the belief the belief systems, they controlled them. So
it's interesting that the Nicean creed is really named after
a divine birth priestess that was associated with Dionysus. And
you know, there were various methods by which these women
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gave were able to conceive, and the highest level was
the parthenogenesis, the self conception that Mother Mary did, that
the pleiatees did, but there was a tonric practice as well,
where the man and the woman generally the priestess and
the priest or, the queen and the king would get
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together in a very high level conception right a ceremonial rite.
They would conceive a divine child that way. So there's
a lot to this. I discuss it plentifully in the
Mystery Tradition of Miraculous Conception. But it really does open
up doors to our understandings about women's womb power and
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what is possible here for us today. This is not
just about ancient practices that are no longer operating. There's
quite a bit to it.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
It's fascinating you say Mary was also a stepmother and
also had a sister. These are things that we never
hear about. Can you tell us more?
Speaker 9 (30:36):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
So.
Speaker 9 (30:39):
In the Infancy Gospel of James or the Birth of
Mary Gospel, we learn that mother Mary is paired up
with Joseph as her guardian. They never have a formal marriage,
they never have conjugal relations. He is just a protector
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to her as she engages in the divine conception right
to bring forth Jesus. And at some point she is
brought into his household. And he has had children from
a wife who is now no longer on the planet,
and we see several of them named in that gospel,
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and then I believe we also see them named in
the Christian Bible, where there are at least three boys
and two girls that are the original sons of Joseph
that really were not Mary's children, but she would be
the caretaker of them. And in the Life of the
Life of the Virgin by Maximus, presumably he talks about
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how she came into the household at a young age.
She was somewhere between twelve and sixteen, and she became
the head of the head of the household, the teacher
of these children. And Joseph really trusted her to be
able to have that level of maturity, because she herself
was a very high being by virtue of the fact
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that she was born of Anne in virgin fashion, and
she had had, according to Shri Kuleshwar, many lives, many
lifetimes to perfect her soul. So when she came onto
this planet as Mary Boom, she hit the ground running.
She was a very very advanced master, you know, of
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the spiritual arts, of the magical arts, and so forth,
and so of course she would be an elevated type
of parent to these children and they venerated her and
several of them, you know, James became the actual head
of the church. The women came to follow her and
so forth. So it was really, this is really something
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that's readily available in the texts, but again is not
emphasized by the church, that she'll remain uni aimed because
of the desire by patriarchy to dismiss women's power, and
certainly Mother Mary's power, because it is threatening to a
patriarchal establishment. So that was one part of your question.
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I think there was another part of your question.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Said was a step Anne she had a sister as well.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
She had a sister. Yeah, another little little known fact,
but you can find it in these tracts. It turns
out that after you see Anne and Joahim her partner,
gave Mother Mary up to the temple when she was
three years old. They realized she was a very high
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being and they had made a commitment to offer her
in service to the divine so they brought her to
the temple.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
That was it.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
They may or may not have seen her again. But
Anne did have another child. She had a girl, and
this is presumably through sexual relating, and there are it
sounds like she Joahim. Her original partner had died, and
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she went with another partner named Clophus or Cleopus, and
it was through him that she had this second daughter.
And originally, according to these texts, the name was patu
Ghita of this girl, which meant in ancient Greek little hen.
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But she also came to have the name Mary, which
means It's part of the evidence that I discovered that
Mary originally was not really a personal name. It was
a priestess title conferred upon these special women who were
masters of the sacred heart, masters of these quantum womb mysteries,
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masters of the oracle arts, you know, being able to
see and do these healings. So she became a Mary. Also,
Mother Mary's stepsister became a Mary. And in the Gospel
of Philip, we hear that Mother Mary, this second Mary,
and a third Mary, Mary Magdalene. All three Marys walked
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with Jesus all the time.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Very interesting. Today we're speaking with Marguerite Rigal Yoso and
we're talking about her both the secret life of Mother Mary.
We will be right back after the break.
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Speaker 8 (36:07):
Okay, and welcome back to the Angel Quest Show. We're
talking about the secret life of Mother Mary and Marguerite.
I have to ask you a question. How can we
see Mother Mary in a different way?
Speaker 9 (36:20):
Yeah, you know, we were chatting a little bit, both
of us being Italian girls, right, oh yeah, grown up
with the church that shall remain unnamed. And I don't
know about you, but it was like a side you know,
as I said earlier, aside from having some level of okay,
this was a sainted holy woman. As I got older
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and came into my own sexuality, I wanted nothing to
do with her because she was used as such a
repressive role model for women. Girls. We couldn't have sex,
we couldn't have sex before marriage, We had to be obedient, right,
I mean, all of these things that none of us
growing up in then the seventies, eighties, nineties, you know,
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coming into the modern world, wanted to be or wanted
to emulate. And so that's why for many years, you know,
I turned my eyes away from Mother Mary. And I
think a lot of people have and a lot of
people in your listenership, you know who may have been
brought up in this tradition that shall remain unnamed, may
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have had the same experience and might be saying, well,
who cares about Mother Mary. Luckily, there are many people
actually who do end up having beautiful personal relationships despite
all of that suppression. And the thing is that I'm
writing both for people who have always understood Mother Mary
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in a different way and for those who haven't, for
those who you know, like us, were given the good
girl image that we wanted to run screaming away from
and never have anything to do with, because I want
people to understand who Mother Man Mary really was, is
and shall be. This is critical to our emancipation, not
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only as women, but as a whole human species. We
need to understand the extraordinary powers of this woman that
are possible for all of us to develop if we
decide to go on a committed path to awakening our
spiritual selves. And it doesn't mean going into a month's
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monks cell, it doesn't mean going into any specific religion.
It means really awakening to the true mystical esoteric power
within behind and underneath Mother Mary, the very thing that
has been suppressed, so that we can start understanding how
to conceive higher level children, those of us you know,
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who are having children, so that we can understand how
to be healers, so that we can understand where we're
going after death, so that we can understand what are
the multiple layers that go into illness, and truly heal
ourselves so that we can come into balance on this planet,
and so that we can turn things around. You know,
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we are on the cusp of a very interesting event
as of the filming or you know, the recording of
this that has the US and the whole world all
up in arms and divided. This kind of very upsetting
scenario of lack of leadership or questionable leadership or whatever
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it is, is precisely an indicator that we've got to
look back to ourselves for leadership, and Mother Mary is
one such master mentor to help point us in a
direction that is not dogmatic, that is not reinitiating us
into any particular church, but that is truly awakening our
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souls and our spirits so that we can be productive,
healing citizens on planet Earth and turn this ship around.
Speaker 8 (40:09):
Allelulia, Oh my goodness, I could just speak with you
all day. But I have a question too, another question.
You have an entire chapter devoted to how Mother Mary
made her passage out of this world, achieving the rainbow
body that so many people seek and transitioning from human
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being to full fledged goddess. Can you let us know
more about this?
Speaker 9 (40:36):
Yes, and this is such a critical piece of her reality.
It's what we could call her ascension. Now, for some
listeners to your show, they will know what that is.
It's something that people in the esoteric mystical spiritual community
now are talking about a lot. I want my ascension.
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I want to be liberated from all the limitations of
human life. When I leave my body after this lifetime,
I want to go to the illumined and the enlightened place.
And so Mother Mary accomplished that in the biggest way
that a human being could have through her many lifetimes,
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according to Shri Kuleshwar of practices, perfecting herself, her soul,
her knowledge, so that in this final lifetime as Mother Mary,
she was ready. And what I describe in the Secret
Life of Mother Mary is what's written in one of
her biographies called the Six Books narrative about what the
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Church that shall remain unnamed calls her dormission. So they
didn't get it all wrong. She really didn't die, but
she just transformed, for which in fact, is what we
all do when we leave our bodies. But Mother Mary
did it in a very big, celebrated way which allowed
her to absolutely unify her soul with the divine principle
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with Mother Goddess, and we call that going rainbow body.
Monks are attributed to have done this, Jesus even himself.
You know where the body disappears, and it's not because
it's stolen. It's because the body, the being knows how
to take absolutely every drop of life force out of
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the body so that the physical biology disintegrates, and then
they they go zenith, they go quasar into a like body.
And the phenomenon sometimes is seen above people who are
making this passage as a rainbow light. I mean, it
really is remarkable. And there's a description in one of
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these you know, in this in this dormsicion narrative, that
a light was seen. Okay, a light was seen when
this was happening. So people should really look at the
book and see the stages of the ritual that she
goes through, the stages that her consciousness goes through the
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stages that her body goes through, because there are a
lot of codes, instructional codes there for people who want
to have a conscious death.
Speaker 8 (43:26):
Shall we say so, is Mother Mary still a living
presence as you say it? And how can she be
our personal healer today?
Speaker 9 (43:41):
Yes, I very much see her as a living presence,
And Karen, the important thing is that she is a
living presence that is but a mirror to our own souls.
She is not separate and apart from us. She is
not a being to be worshiped. That my understanding is
she She is not here for that. She is here
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to show us our power if we call upon the
intelligence of her spirit, ask her to work with us
in our lives. I've worked with her as a personal healer.
As I began this conversation, I've experienced numerous instances of
her affecting great healings in my life. And I've experienced
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her as a mentor. When I go into meditations, I
receive information, new insights about who she is, how I
can run my life, how I can teach others. So
she is available for this on all of these different levels.
And it's really my intention that the Secret Life of
Mother Mary be a very big door opening for a
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lot of people to go much more deeply into her world.
This is for.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
Us so beautiful. Well, so we're ending the hours soon.
I just want if you could tell us how people
could find you and if you have any special events
coming up and where and when?
Speaker 9 (45:14):
Yes, So, the easiest way, as you mentioned at the beginning,
is to go to my website Seven Sisters Mystery School
dot com and the seven is written out Seve and
there are a wealth of things We're always keeping you updated.
You can sign up for our Sunday e newsletter. I've
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got many things going on all the time. And for
those who are within driving distance of Massachusetts, Methuen, Massachusetts,
I've got a book reading for the Secret Life of
Mother Mary for free on Friday, November eighth at the
Circles of Wisdom store in Methuen, Massachusetts. And then the
next day I have an in person workshop called Connecting
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with Mother Mary and Mary Magdalen as healers, mentors and guides,
so helping people to you know, have the experience exactly
of what you were asking me about, to explore not
only their histories.
Speaker 7 (46:19):
But.
Speaker 9 (46:20):
To uncover, you know, engage in practices to connect with
their healing presence and activate their wisdom in our lives
and gain insights and tools for advancing our spiritual journey.
So that's just one thing. But again, if people get
on my newsletter, they will be kept abreassed. I also
have a YouTube channel, the Marguerite regal Joso YouTube channel,
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and I have many many interviews and my own show
that's on their Bridging Dimensions, where sometimes I serve as
a live oracle in the using Lady Cannabis as an
ally to help me open my consciousness. And I have
have one such event coming up November first, eleven thirty
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am on the Bridging Dimension Show on my YouTube channel,
so people can check into that.
Speaker 8 (47:09):
It will be live, beautiful. And before we say goodbye,
why does the world need this Mother Mary right now?
Speaker 9 (47:21):
Because we're all really so hurting, we are in so
much pain. We think this is just the way it is,
just life, this brief, semi miserable life, and then we
go to who knows where and everyone's terrified. But that's
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not how it is, and she's here to help us
heal our own pain and then understand what's on the
other side of the veil, so that we can be
in communication and working with these interdimensional intelligences for our
personal betterment and our planetary betterment.
Speaker 8 (48:06):
Wow, thank you so much for joining us today. It
was fascinating. You are amazing. Thank you again.
Speaker 9 (48:14):
You're welcome. Thank you, Karen. It's been wonderful being here.
And many blessings to all those listeners who are tuning
into this and either saying Aha, I knew it or
are saying, wow, this is the first time I've ever
heard anything like that.
Speaker 8 (48:28):
Check it out. Thank you. Okay, tune in again to
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Noi Author. Have an amazing day and always remember to
focus on the beauty and love all around you. Angel.
Blessings to you now and always, by bye.
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From our spirit, we perceive we are one humanity, awakening, sanctity.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Awareness and unity. We are here to dance and see
our connection with everything, understanding who we.
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Are through the ways of the heart.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
Let's choose love inner peace, living one in harmony with
the novel.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
At our core.
Speaker 6 (50:31):
We are the ones we've been waiting or we can
do it with the truth and bring new light into
all we do.
Speaker 4 (50:42):
We are love at our best.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
In the weed consciousness. As we grow consciously, we claim.
Speaker 4 (51:02):
Sovereignty for our lives.
Speaker 5 (51:05):
BlimE down see ground.
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It in equality.
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Let's choose love inner we living one in harmony.
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With the knowledge.
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At our core.
Speaker 7 (51:25):
We are the ones we've been waiting before.
Speaker 6 (51:29):
We can do it with a true.
Speaker 8 (51:33):
Bring new light into all we do.
Speaker 6 (51:36):
We are love.
Speaker 7 (51:38):
At our best.
Speaker 4 (51:40):
In the week consciousness lis a child like the mother
within us.
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All we come diriscof looking out for one another.
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Heart to heart.
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Sisters and bra.
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Let's choose love in yeas, living one in harmony with
the lodge.
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At our call.
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We are the ones we've been waiting for.
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We can do it with a truth, bring new life.
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Into all we do.
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We are in love at our.
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Best in the way consciousness we love at our best.
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Queen consciousness.
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Enter it just we conscious stuffs pay, Peace prevail. Honorth H.
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