Marie Antoinette Kelley, author of the children's book "Danny's Day in Heaven"

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Weed Concier. And now, ladiesand gentlemen, it's time for Angel Quest
with Karenne Hudson River Radio dot Com. Well, hello, everyone, welcome

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to the Angel Quest Show. I'mKaren Knowe, author of Your Life After
Their Death Through the Eyes of AnotherWeak Consciousness and the Angel Quest Oracle Deck.
I am so happy to introduce Marieanton At Kelly. Hi, Karen,
I'm so happy to be here.So glad you're here. Marie Antoinette
is an award winning artist who haspainted hundreds of commissioned portraits, as well

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as the artwork for Our Angel.In twenty nineteen, her Bison portrait in
the form of woven blankets so throughoutYellowstone National Parks General Stores. Her latest
work is a beautiful children's book entitledDanny's Day in Heaven. So I'm so
excited again. Thanks for being withus today. Thank you, Karen.

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It's an honor, all right.So let's begin by. I think they
always like to know the background storieshow we met. Let's begin. I'll
tell my story how I met you, and then you could tell how the
everything fell into place. Does thatwork? Yeah? Sounds great. Okay,
so, oh gosh. In twentyfifteen, my first book, The

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Rainbow Follows the Storm, was publishedand I needed a publicist. So enter
Chris Kelly, Mary Antonette's husband,and we worked together, and he kept
saying that his wife was an amazingartist. She's an amazing artist, and
I always held that in my memory. And so when my book Your Life

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after their Death came out, weneeded a cover and we needed some illustrations
for the book, and ill Terenceshe said, yes, yes, then
you take it from here with theAngel historical Deck. It's a great story.
Oh I'm putting me on the spot, noble. The good memory I
have about that is that you feltprompted by the angels to create an angel

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deck. And I had been overthe year before that also been prompted to
create some sort of a card deckwith images of inspiration and soul language,
and so we had not talked toeach other for quite some time. But
when you woke up it was aSunday morning with that prompting and that knocking
on your awareness from the angels tocreate such a deck, you felt immediately

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that I should be the artist forthat deck. And you call me I
remember it was a night because youget up one at four thirty every morning,
but don't forget it was like twelvenoon at my time, but your
mountain time. Yeah, I wasnine thirty, I remember, and I
was just a Sunday morning and Iwas still launching in bed, and I
got the phone call in bed,and I remem remember that was the first

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thing I thought of that day,and you said, Hey, how would
you like to create an aide todeck with me? Because I just had
this inspiration and I feel the angelsare prompting us to work together, and
I said absolutely. It didn't takeany time for me to recognize that I
would love to be part of thatproject, and that there was a real
nudge from the angels because I hadalready been thinking about such a project without

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giving it really strong direction. SoI felt the invitation was a beautiful one
and I jumped right on board andit made my day, made my weekend.
And so we got to creating someof those samples, and you had
an agent, and I remember youpitching it to him, and I remember

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we went to a list together asthey started the dream of what this project
could be, and the agent providedus with like, you know, fifteen
twenty publishers and of the same one, and both of us said, it's
got to be beyond boards. Wejust feel right about that. Remember that
yes I did or enough beyond Wordsis the one that came through for us.
They felt the same way. Sothe whole thing has been inspired from

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the beginning. I feel like forus to work together, the publisher to
get with us and the products toget out from really space. And we'll
talk more about the Angel Quest workallater on, but now let's talk about
your children's book, Danny's Day inHeaven. It is gorgeous. That's all
about what the book is. Yeah, I had the book. Danny's Day

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in Heaven is an illustrated rendition ofa near death experience. So it's the
first of its kind that actually doesn'tjust talk to adults about what happens when
we die, but it illustrates forchildren that same process. So I was
a child myself. It was reallyafraid of death because I wasn't really any
insight at the time, and Ifeel that being left in the dark about

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it made my fear worse. Itmade me feel overwhelmed in ways that if
I had understood it. I feelthat would have been comforted, and so
that was a driving force for mebehind creating this as a children's book,
because when I was an adult,I was looking for answers, still an
insight, and I started reading neardeath experiences and the main one that had

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an influence on me was the storyof Daniel Brinkley, who wrote Saved by
the Lights, and his was arunaway best seller that also became a Hallmark
movie. But Daniel became friends withme and my husband, and so having
had the personal conversations and the insightinto, you know, the empirical proof
that we live on after we die, it was just so comforting to me

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and so orienting in so many waysthat that's when I really hatched the idea
that I needed to put all thattogether into a children's book, which is
why I adapted the character and calledhim Danny, because he's kind of adapted
based on, you know, Daniel'sinspiration to me. Now before we we
some people don't know who he is. We'll talk about him in a minute.

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Yeah, this is a near deathexperience for those who don't know what
it is hearing about it. Yeah, the way I understand a near death
experience is actually more of a deathexperience because they coined it as near death
because it's people that have faced deathbeen declared that you know, brain dad,
no heart rate, no. Thebody is also shown all sympterms of

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death. But then at some pointthey get resuscitated because of our advances in
medical equipment. And as they comeback, these people tell stories, they
remember their experiences that they find outthat when their body was dead, their
soul was not. And so atthis point I read a statistic care and
you won't believe it, but atthis point, the statistic is that one
in twenty five Americans has had anear death experience of some sort. Oh

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my god. So it's really it'sreally becoming a record as phenomenon and accepted.
And you know what, they're findingthat independent of religion, cultural background,
or just upbringing, there are elementsto this experience of death that are
overlapping. And so it's those elementsthat I highlighted in this children's book,
so that I'm not telling anybody howto believe or what to belief, but

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I'm highlighting the elements that we cancount on. They happen to us when
we die and that's something for childrenthat is going to help them, you
know, shoot them when the questionscome and help them understand the real process.
So what kind of elements are therecoming, Yeah, the overlapping ones

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that you know, everybody has aunique story obviously, but the ingredients that
overlap are the experience of entering atunnel. Not everyone has a tunnel,
but many people have a tunnel thatthey enter, and then at the end
of that tunnel there is that light, that indescribable light, unconditional love and
exhilaration, and it's just uniforic andand bright and welcoming. And that is

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something everyone has in common, asthe as the foundational experience of spirits.
And then many, almost a nineperc or so, meet a guide or
someone that either Jesus or a familymember or a religious or someone that they
have related to through their spirituality ortheir religion, but it's a guide or

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an angel, and then they havea life review. As in the process
of dying, there's a moment inwhich you know, you've heard that said
the life, your life flashes beforeyour eyes. The people experience everything that
happened to them in their life,not just to their own eyes, but
also as if they are the personreceiving their actions, and so they see

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it through the other person's guys,you write about that in your book,
so you know all about that aswell, and so that is called the
life review. So that element ishighlighted in this children's book. And then
from that the concept that you arenot judged by anyone, but that you
evaluate yourself. You yourself, lookat how you affected other people and how

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you participated in your own life andfrom what place, whether it's from love
or from selfishness. And so thatsort of feedback is for your own heart
to open up. And that's kindof the message in the book. Of
course. He also then runs intoa second grade teacher who has passed away.
This is before we move on.This is based on Danny and brinkley

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a life and what happened to himwhen he had his near death experience.
And we never really said who Dannyand Brinkley is before we moved to that,
right, This is a great bookagain the book, Yes, the
title is Danny's Day in Heaven andye say that right now? Yeah,
So who is Danny Brinkley For thosewho don't know Daniel Brinkley is someone who

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had one of the most complete neardeath experiences on record and also one of
the earliest recorded ones. Has happenedin the seventies, and he got struck
by lightning back when we still hadlandlines, and he lived in North Carolina
and the lightning he was on thephone at the time, and the lightning
struck the landline and traveled through aboae cord into his ear, into his

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body. It seared his shoes tothe ground. And so he got hit
by that incredible voltage and it killedhim. He got transported to the hospital
the dead for thirty two minutes.But what he says is that his story.
But he tells the story that hewasn't he never experienced death. He
wasn't dead for one second. Becausewhen his body was dead, he had

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a wild adventure. He would beable to see, you know, through
the eyes of the soul, andhe went into the spiritual dimensions and he
brings back those stories and he wroteabout that in his book, Saved by
the Lights. Yes, and hewas a bully kind of Oh that's what
I was, yeah, right,he was actually immersed in a bully.
He was a self described bad guyhe was in the army was a killer.

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He was a bad guy. Andhe says he also raised in the
Bible belt, and he says,if there was anyone on this planet I
deserved to go to Hell, itwould have been me, he said.
And he had no interest in religion, and he was not kind, he
was self centered. And these arehis own descriptions, and they don't die
in the book. And he gotaccess to the spiritual dimension. He got

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to experience an unconditional love, andhe got to see the results of his
own actions, which transformed his heartprofoundly. So when he came back and
he recovered, that set a wholenew life emotion. And that's how he's
lived the rest of his life.It's inspiring people about the truth of you
know, he likes to say,and I like that phrase a lot.
This is as dead as you're evergoing to be. I think, yeah,

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it's true. You know, becausewe're in bodies, we're confined,
we're limited to well, we canexpress ourselves with our bodies, but that
limitation goes away when you die.And that's exhilarating, it's uphoric for those
who had a preview of it.Exactly. So now we'll take that a
step further. You made this intoa children's book so children can understand the

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concept of near death experiences and whatit's like after we leave the physical body.
Can you tell us a little bitwhat's in the book? Yeah?
Sure, Yeah. So, havinghad those conversations with Daniel, and he's
already acknowledged his focuses on end oflife care veterans, especially because of the
path he has walked, and sohe just gave me permission to take what

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works from his story and just runwith it in the other direction to help
children, since that's when my lifestory has been. And so I realized
that I couldn't really translate it literally, so if I had a child,
in order to reach children, youhave to come from a child's perspective.
So I shrank Danny's age to twelve. And then I realized, you know,
I can't have him be struck bylightning because you can't recover from that

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thirty pages as a child. SoI made a few adaptations that way.
In this case, the boy isstill a pully so that we can get
that story told from the Angel love. He wasn't good, he wasn't like,
oh, yes, angel's Hallelujah chorussinging come on in. He was
not interested in love yet, andso that the theme is the same in
the book. Danny is a surferand so he's at the beach bullying kids,

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and then he drifts off on theocean and falls asleep for a little
nap, and he gets caught ina storm. That storm slams him on
the water, which at which pointwhen he thinks he's getting rescued by the
lifeguard, he's actually entering the lighton the other side. He's drowning at
that point, and just like Daniel, he doesn't experience a moment of death.

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He goes into that euphoric state ofunconditional love and that's where his adventure
on the other side starts. Andthen at the end of the book,
when those experiences complete and the lessonsI learned, he gets resuscitated and he
does you know. So the storyis a happy ending. He gets a
second chance and he gets to bringwhat he learned with him to this side
of life. It's it's a beautifulboth the colors of the portraits are beautiful

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and the storyline when he goes atthe end of the tunnel he sees his
dog that passed away, his teacherangel. Yes, so that's all as
well. Yes, and it hashis life review. And I know that
you talk about that to help peoplebecause it's so what's really cool. One

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of the things I took away fromhearing about near death experiences is also is
that it's help. While it's superhelpful to know you're never really gonna die,
life goes on, the biggest benefitisn't really knowing that part. The
biggest benefit is that it affects yourlife right now. That people who have
a near death experience they live moremeaningful lives because they know they go on,

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and because they do know that,they have an effect on people because
they get to experience that, sothey don't feel as loss, they don't
feel that void, that existential dread, that there's no purpose to anything,
and so they have more connection.And that's a big benefit that I'm hoping
to contribute to children, because today'sworld is in so much pain and so

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much chaos, and so many peoplehave lost the confidence that, you know,
the spiritual dimensions are as real asthey are. And children, while
I believe children are born method andthey have those qualities very naturally, you
know, as their rational mind developsand the school systems feed only that side
of them, they forget and thenthe existential dread have you know, enters.

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So I'm hoping in a some smallway to contribute to keeping that alive
so that that magic can continue.It's a beautiful way to introduce children to
this concept and adults alike. Iflet's take that a step further. Why
do we have to wait until it'still we pass away to see how we've

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affected people? Why do we haveto wait for that life review after we
die? You know, why don'twe try to see how we're affecting people,
Try to see through their eyes howwe're affecting them, you know,
forgive them for things that they didto us, ask forgiveness for something that
we did to them. And also, as in Anita Moore Johanni's book,
she wrote a book called ying tobe Made, you know, treat ourselves

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with the respect that we deserve,and we don't have to wait until we
die to go through that, right, So that's really important too. But
to teach children at such a youngage about this this is amazing. Yes,
it's totally I love that you mentionedAnita, because Anita had also a
chance to review this book. Andit's beautiful to see that people who have

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had such strong messages, who knowso much about the other sides to since
yourself and Anita and Daniel, theyall endorsed this children's book because the message
is a really powerful one for childrento have, and it brings me to
one of the things I struggled with. The book have been a while in
the making, but one of thethings I struggled with in making the book

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is that while people who have beenofficially so to speak to the other side
endorsed the book, I have onlylearned on the other side through my the
way I live life, and myown spiritual interests and spiritual experiences. So
I was struggling with that idea,like who am I to say this is
what the other side looks like.I was thinking about it in quite literal

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terms, you know, like Ihad to be dead somehow in order to
validate it. And and I realizedthrough all of that that it's not so
much that I can describe with thebook what the other side is going to
look like, but I figured outwhat the other side is going to feel
like and the other side is representedfrom a feeling place, so that the
vibration of the other side is representedin the artwork, and hopefully it prompts

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the reader to recognize that vibration andthat feeling and then begin making the connection
on their own, in their ownhearts, and then let that develop,
you know, their whole connection theway you know messages such yours, Anita's
and Danians have come through, like, begin living with that knowledge in mind.
Spirits real, and it's there foryou. It's your connection. Nobody

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else can interpret it for you.They can only wake you up to it,
and then it's yours journey to takebeautiful Yeah, and we have to
take a short break right now,but we'll look back in a minute,
and we're talking to Marie Anton atKelly Danny's Day in Heaven, her latest
children's book. Be right back.This is Hudson River Radio dot Com,

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back to the Angel Quest Show.We have Marianton at Kelly speaking with us
about her book, Danny's Day inHeaven. It's a children's book and it's
amazing. So we're talking about andduring the break we were talking about that
there's a section with questions for thechildren and the parents to discuss. So
can you talk about that. Ithink that's amazing, So the parents could

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talk to their children, well they'rewell. I was very much wanting to
get across the message that decided beinga pleasing adventure story, that there's truth
behind the story and so you knowit says it right in the beginning that
it's adapted from real life events anddocumented experiences, which it's important to keep

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in mind that it's not just afantasy about dying, it's it's real life
processing information. And so when youtouch a topic as difficult as death,
children need to process that of course, knowing that it is bringing up questions
and possibly you know directly somebody theylost in their lives or some you know,

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pet they've lost. And so atthe end of the book, I
don't have questions with like right andwrong answers. These are open ended questions
so that children can simply bring uptheir feelings and deepen the experience for themselves
through their eyes. And as Imentioned before the break, you know begin
that journey, that journey of connectingand understanding that there is that continuum between

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life on this side and life onthe other side. So the questions are
drawing out their feelings or their experiencerather than looking for facts. One of
the questions is number five. Dannyis quite a bully before his experience.
How did this experience change him?So they could discuss that, you know,

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yes, and he's back on thebeach. He hears the words I
am only a breath away? Whatdo you think that means? Yes?
You know? And where do youthink those words are coming from? So
they're very you know, things tothink about. I love that which I
had something like this from my kids. I have grandchildren, so I could
share it with them as well.Have you been sharing it with your grandchildren?

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I have. What was so funwhen I did the reveal too.
I have my grandchildren with me,and my little two year old grandson.
I thought maybe the book because thebook is geared for six to ten year
old so they can kind of participatewith the whole story, and I thought
maybe be over his head, buthe was so drawn into it. He
was like, there's golden Land,and then a couple of pages later he

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goes, there's golden Land again,and he was really just drawn to it.
It was very sweet, which mademe just realize that, you know,
for children, because their rational minddevelops later in their childhood, they're
just so open and so receptive tothese concepts that everything is just one one
connection. You know, we're alltogether in this and you speak about that

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a lot in your Weak Consciousness book, and I feel this book is one
of the ingredients that can help peoplekeep that conversation so they can keep that
message. Because you know, death, When you don't have a concept of
death and Noodly talks about it,don't you feel that it becomes like this,

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well, not only this taboo topic, but this brick wall that you're
going to hit at some point,so let's do everything you can to avoid
it exactly, and you get itbecomes this this looming problem. That's how
it was for me in my childhood. And um, I really feel that
looking at it head on, butbut not just that, but looking that

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when you look at it head on, you find that it's not scary,
that it's a warm and welcoming transition. It is, of course a physical
release. You leave your physical bodybehind in that part. Looking at the
loss that way, you know there'sgrief and there is hard times, but
from the continuum, from the perspectiveof who you are as a complete being

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with your heart, with your soul, knowing that that part is freedom goes
on. It eases some of thegrief, It helps, and it heals,
doesn't it care? I mean yeah, absolutely, And all the artwork
is just phenomenal, And like Iknow when we did when you did the
Angel quest oracle you had some storiesfor them? Did you have any story

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when you were doing the artwork forthis book, this book, I was
processing a lot of the experiences forthat from Daniel. And I remember starting
this book quite some time ago becauseit's been in the works, and then
it had to find the right timingto be relied. Let's talk about that
too. I just years ago,right, I did. I did because

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my children were little at the time, and that's when I was passionate about
sharing that and I was able toshare that concept. But you know,
I was at that point just discoveringI could be an artist, and you
know, with my enthusiasm, Ihad the whole thing like come, you
know, ready to publication. Irealized that life is teaching me lessons still
that needed to be you know,um synchronized with the release of this book,

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because at that point it was stillvery much other people's story. It
was Daniel's story. It was peoplethat had me a death experienced story,
and I was coming at it froma researcher's point. We should all know
this, but I had to addsomething on my own to it, and
that part came through in the artworkand the artwork has gone through three cycles
of improvement, and each cycle Ifelt like I could create a deeper connection

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with my own confirmations that the otherside being real. So it over the
years became more than other people's story, and it was also at this point
my story. And at this pointit isn't just me saying, well,
I didn't die, but other peopledid and this is what you're going to
expect. It's more like I havevalidated to my own, to my own

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life, the truth and the realityof life going on. And here's what
all of us have in common,and when all of us came to experience
it is true, and so it'salso mine my experience. Now, my
experiences have come a lot through myartwork. Absolutely. I mean, you
did that one. We're going totalk about the Angel Quest Oracle as well,
but that's what happened when you didthe artwork for each and we'll talk

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about that in a minute too.But um, you had amazing endorsement for
this book as well as we talkedabout you have you know, Nita John,
do you want to talk about allthese you have Gene Houston that was
for me because she used it issuch an inspirational voice for so many decades,

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and I was in again in thatfirst well a little before the first
cycle of this book. But inthe early nineties, I was very inspired
by m Gene Houston's work and Iused to hear her on TV and she
said this phrase that I carried withme for thirty years, and that phrase
was a life lived from a soulunfolds in extraordinary ways. And that quote

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that sound by just just echoed inmy head and been with me for thirty
years. So thirty years later Igot to this book and I realized that
the publisher that has picked up ourbook, Our Angel Quest and now this
book today ry she in Houston.Yes, And so they were all in
this same we're all in the samepool now, and it's like, what

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a beautiful It's not a coincidence ora beautiful way to bring it all full
circle. So I was able towrite Jane Nuson and I told her that
I've lived for the last thirty yearsa life from the soul and it has
unfolded in extraordinary ways. And soshe was really gracious. She read the
book and she was blown away,and she gave me the most beautiful quote

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which says, this luminous book isa revelation of the true nature and beauty
of our reality, both here andhereafter. Yes, And that felt really
validating. And I believe that thebook has taken on a life of its
own, really because I could seethat I myself had to grow to be
able to hold the feelings that thisbook represents in the pages. You know,

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my own doubt about the existence ofit got flushed out over the years
because you know, I started offcoming at it from an intellectual place like,
well, we all know because peoplesay and then there's an element of
doubt personally, just like when youlose a person close to you, it
hits you differently than my new thinkabout it in metaphysical terms like oh yeah,

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having people die they live on youknow, they it hits you in
a deeper spot. And when yougave birth to your son I did,
Yeah, that was that was amazingbecause that was the moment, the moment
of culmination where I had at thatpoint studied near death experiences for I'd say
sixteen years, you know, likeat least a long time, and it

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had healed me from my childhood fearof death. And then I had almost
switched over. The pendulum had swungto a point where I was almost glorifying
the near death experience, thinking,oh, it's so beautiful on the other
side of life. Here sucks inso many ways, you know. I
was like dramatic and wanting to writethis children's book. I was like,
the other side is so much better. And then I had a trauma delivery

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with my son thirty six at thetime, and I sometimes I wanted if
but part of me just attracted thatopportunity because it was so preoccupied with the
near death experience and the other side. And what startled me in the most
is that moment I was sixty secondsaway from dying because I had abrupted and
it was it was a trauma,and sixty seconds everything came crashing in that

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description that I recognized so very well, where the tunnel starts forming and outside
of that six foot radius is chaosand inside of it is total piece and
you know you're going into a connectedness. And I recognized it, and I
knew that was step one, andI should have, based on how I
had lived, recognized and said,yeah, here we go, you know,

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because it's going to be an adventureand instead my practical voice woke up,
and I remember to this day thatconfort, that feeling inside of me.
I clenched my fish and I said, hell, no, nor made
from now. It's like I know, and it's when it hit me.
It was more than just a helmet, like a fight I want to live.

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It was also like, if thispart is step one is forming right
now, the rest is also goingto be true. I know this already.
I have connected the spirit through myheart, through my prayers, to
my meditations, to the people's inspirations, so many countless of times. I
know the truth of it. That'swhy I'm recognizing it in people's dear dead
stories. And it sobered me upright then and there, and I realized

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all of a sudden the beauty ofliving, the beauty of having a body,
and the beauty of having opportunity.And that's what sets straight in that
moment. And when I clanched myfist, I was clinging onto the opportunity
to have my expression here in thisbody and to be part of life.
And it made me aware that Idon't have to cling to the other side

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and glamorize it. It comes inits own time, I have to recognize
the reality of it so I caninvite it in. But I have to
appreciate. I want to appreciate thelife that I can live right now.
And so when I came back,I was overdosed, I was under for
I was out for like unconscious forlike ten hours or so. But then

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I came back, all of thathad straightened itself out within my thinking.
And I also remember picking up whereI left off at that point, because
while I was a blackout for mein the in between before and after,
the after was exactly the way theydescribed it as well, where I was
so intuitive and so sensitive that Icould feel my husband entering the hospital and

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going in the elevator and count downto the moment he opened his door without
ever having seen outside the room,you know, I could like feel through
walls kind of thing. So againthat added up really beautifully, and I
realized that we don't all have tobe experiencing death in order to know and
validate for ourselves. We have somany validations on the daily basis of the

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of the the truth of life onthe other side, the truth of the
voice of spirit as it participates absolutelytrue. So let's live for today,
but when the time comes, wedo know that it's a place of complete
lists beyond us. Words can evencome close to right right right. It's

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just a beautiful, beautiful thing toknow. And I hope my listeners know
that I talk about this all thetime, that absolutely this life is not
all there is. You know,I know without a doubt in my wishes
for everybody to know that as well. Energy doesn't begin and it doesn't end
right right. Always talk about isthe same chronicities and the small ways in

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which spirit communicates correct. And Ireally like that about you and how you
teach people about I think the mostimportant message I have is not that I
can do this, is that everyonecan do what I do. My purpose
is to empower people to do that. Yes, Yes, And I love

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it. And you do that becauseyou have strengthened my compidence in it,
because in looking back, I seehow spirit has been part of my journey
and my story all along. Butthere's many moments of doubt, and there's
also moments of you know, justburdens in the way. And I'm sure
you see that with your clients,and that's something I'm hoping this book will
alleviate is how grief gets in theway of connecting with spirit, because grief

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makes you having it makes you feelthe loss of physical comforts and physical realities.
And it can, of course ithas a place, but it can
weigh you down to the point thatyou are not trusting what the comfort you
get from spirit and from the science. And I'm hoping that as this book
hits people's hearts and as they beginto feel the truth of the feelings of

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this and open up their own visionsto the other side, that the grief
lifts a little bit and the communicationscan be more direct so that they can
be empowered to do it themselves,and they can feel the thread the continuum
as it shows opting out every day, beautiful, very show. Yeah,

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we have to take another break.Well, we will be right back again.
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We're talking with Marianton at Kelly andwe're going to move on to another project
that she had and her other projectshe did with me, and it's called
the Angel quest Oracle. It's anAngel deck and it was just amazing working
with you. It was amazing workingwith you too. It's super fun.

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It was super fun. And eachand every card we did something a little
different than most other people did whenthey did their angel cards. Each and
every card we went back and forthwith right, you did the artwork,
war had the title whatever it was, Yes, whatever it was, and
it went back and forth and wehad to agree on everything. Yeah,

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and we had to see how thatwas true for the both of us because
I think what we were just mentioningis how the threat of spirit lives through
in our every day and you arevery good at helping people see that and
feel that in the everyday problems.And that's what the Angel Deck is about,
I think, to help us liftus out of our everyday problems,
every day burden so that we canfeel that inspiration in small and practical ways.

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And we had to recognize that forthe both of us. How that
showed up and then we met andfound the overlap and put that in the
cards, right, yes, yes, the best part about this. If
people don't know how to do anangel card reading, um, we have
a book that goes along with itwith how to how to you know how
to do the cards as different waysof doing it, how to clear the

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deck, how to energize the deck, and so forth. When I do
an angel card reading, the cardsfly out. Let me do a one
card reading for the Yeah, ohwonderful. Let me just go crook,
I've cleared the deck really quickly.I like it sounds back scoo. What
does the person who's listening to thisnow there's so many people listening as a

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whole. What do they need toknow today? Angels? Okay, so
I'm shuffling. You can't say whatI'm doing? And did you see it?
You saw it? Because there isignite a heart. Oh that it
says archangel channel is opening your heart, allowing you to love more deeply.

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Oh that's been so on my heart. Isn't that something yes, so,
I mean every one of us cando an angel card reading and that's the
best part, and it's all spelledout for you in the Angel Quest deck.
We have some stories about some ofthe cards on in that deck.
Remember well, what I love aboutthe deck is the way we both felt

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about the deck is that instead ofit becoming something outside of yourself, it
was waking up the tools in yourown heart. And you say you are
about that, and the deck isvery much doing that to this day.
Even for me, I was sosurprised. After you put the words of
wisdom and inspiration from the angels toit, and I put everything they had
into the artwork, it still tookon a life that was bigger than anything

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we put into it. It becamea tool that even I use now and
it's talking to me not from whatI put into it, but from what
companies do it. And I reallylike that about this dec It's very alive.
And remember when we were doing thecards, we didn't want the number
one it We didn't know through that, but it really works out well.
On the card itself, it sayslike that Ignite your Heart was twenty six,

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so that you can look it upin the Angel Book, in the
Angel Quest Oracle book, and it'sit's a more in depth description. I'll
just read the first yeah, twopages Archangel CHAMMI will sees you're ready for
love to flow more freely into andout of your life. He is paving
the way for you to move forward, transform your relationships, and expand your

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affection. So I hope that resonateswith you, the listener. There's just
so much we could talk about.What would you like to talk about now?
A little? So I remember I'malready mentioning that same struggle if the
Danny's Day didn't have a book thatmy mind gets so literal, and I
take it so seriously that I wantto rationally explained the other side. And

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I was struggling with that same ideawith how was I going to paint these
angels if I hadn't officially seen themand taken like a photo from them in
some other dimension, And how waswho was I to represent them? And
so I went to bed that nightworrying with that whole concept. And in
the morning, I distinctly remember beingawakened by one of the angels, and

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it was a very strong vision andthe glowing, pulsing light and just was
drabbing the angel's presence into my awarenesswithout too many distinct features. But again
it was the same message given tome that it's not so much about the
features, because that's a feature ofthis dimension. It's about the vibration,
it's about the energy, it's aboutthe messages of what they convey to us.

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And so that was communicated to mevery strongly, and the visual of
it was one of pulsing, radiatingmovements and light, and that became one
of the cards in the deck.Yes, Yes, And I feel really
empowered by those trainings because I feltvery clearly that if I was struggling with
the problem, you know, theanswers are representing the deck. But the

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communication was very much personal too.It come to me my dream so that
in the morning I'd have a breakthroughinsight about everything and I could push through
these blocks and then go back toinspiration and put that inspiration in the artwork.
So I felt the journey of it, and I felt very blessed that
I could participate and be trained thatway while I was creating a product that

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could help all of us exactly.That's the same with me with the wording,
you know, channeling the messages thatwere coming through as well. So
yeah, I remember that about ArkiZachiel. It was a great experience.
So yeah, that's another place wewere stuck. And I remember I was
really stuck. And then call dropand I said, Karen, I'm stuck.
I can't get an original picture becausewe had to create forty four angel

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cards and like on a deadline,so it didn't we couldn't wait for inspiration
to strike. And I remember callingyou off and you said that spot and
you hung up the phone on me, and you went, you went with
it, and you said a prayer, and you had a communication from archangels
a field and then you called meback. Do you remember and he said,
this message is specifically for both ofus, you said, and you

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read me the card. I don'tknow if you want to read it,
but I believe it was the confidenceWas it the confidence one? Yeah,
it was the confidence one because Ilost my confidence at that one. Let's
see what it was. It wasso spot on that we knew that it
wasn't just for us, it wasgoing to be the text for that card.
So that from now on and ever, a person has a confidence issue.

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The message is going to hit thespot in the same way it hit
it for us, because that liftedmy burden and I went right back to
painting. And you have your inspirationfor the card exactly and the message on
the confidence card. And by theway, that number on the confidence card
is thirty three, and you knowmy actually thirty three, consciousness thirty three,
concepts of the weak consciousness thirty threeand all of that. But confidence

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card is Archangel's ecuel is presenting youwith opportunities to boost your self esteem.
And then you know when the book, it goes on two pages worth of
of what that means. So thatwas amazing, but it's snapped or snapped
me out of my burden. Andit was very much that conversation between the
energy and the spirit and the angelsfrom the other side and us here creating.

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And I would like to you know, impart that to the listener that's
in the Angel Quest, that's inDanny's Day in Heaven, that's just available
to us every day, and it'sso exciting to have that communication going absolutely
and you you helped me definitely strengthenthat confidence in general in having that communication.

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Beautiful but but you had it already. Yeah, but you will help
me the confidence, because I knowI've always had it, but it used
to overwhelm me and I used todismiss it, and you helped me stop
that like stopping. Do you haveany new projects on the horizon. I

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have a couple of paintings that I'mworking on. But I'm actually feeling so
happy that I have completed these twomajor projects that I'm looking forward to catching
up to myself because as I mentioned, especially these angel paintings, they were
on deadline, and some of themI had to put them aside before I
really felt the closure with it andbefore I felt it that I really took
it to that place. But ithad everything it could be. And I'm

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very much hoping to pullboat paintings outand put them around me and get to
that level now from the Oracle deck. Yeah, pro the Oracle deck,
because the real life paintings that notquite the experience because during this time I
ended up with them. Really,this was before when COVID just came out
out. I had a real caseof COVID right in the beginning. You

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did that deadline, yeah, stillcontinued, so I had to get I
was always sick and I just didit, and I just said the angel
to hold it, you know,the introduction to the book and so forth.
Yet out I worked out perfectly.Yeah, so do you have any

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closing words? I'm feeling really gratefulthat you had me on And if anybody
is interested in ordering a Danny Statein Heaven, I you can go on
my website at m aka fine artdot com where I have all the links
to where those but the book isrepresented and as well as like for the
Angel Quest Oracle deck, but ofcourse you are having those available as well,

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so you can just ask Karen.And yeah, it's been an honor
being on the show. I lovetalking to you. We literally could talk
for the whole weekend and tell ourstories and our experiences and absolutely learn from
each other. Thank you so muchfor being on today, and we'll you
know, we'll talk again soon,I'm sure, I hope. So thank

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you so much for having me.Thank you and again Maranton at Kelly's book
is Danny's Day in Heaven and it'sa children's book, So thank you all
for joining us today. It wasamazing. Tune in again to next month's
Angel Quest podcast While Hudson River Radiois no longer streaming live, you'll still
be able to find all the latestangel Quest shows, as well as all

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archived shows by clicking on the angelQuest podcast link on Hudson River Radio dot
com. Also, this and allof the other angel Quest shows are offered
as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, andmost of the other podcast platforms out there,
including the one you're listening to now. So for more information about me
or my books, you could goto my website at Karennowe dot com.

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That's kar nnoe dot com, orfollow me on my Facebook or Instagram page
at Karennoey Author. Have an amazingday and always remember to focus on the
love and comfort around you. Angelblessed sens to you all a bye from

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our spirit. We perceive we areone humanity, awakening, sanctity, awareness
and unity. We are here todance and sing our connection with everything,

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understanding who we are through the waysof the heart. Let's joose love in
a peace living one in harmony withthen all at our core. We are

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the ones with them waiting for wecan do it with the truth, bring
new lighting to all we do.We are love at our best in the
week conscious minds. As we growconsciously, we claim sovereignty for our love,

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landyancy, grounded in equality. Let'schoose love, inner peace, living
one in harm and need, andall at our call. We are the
ones filling waitfore we can do itwith our true bring new light into all

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we do. We all love atour blastois conscience wise, there's a child
like no water within a soul.We come descuff looking out for one another,

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heart to heart, sisters and brothers. Let's jose love in our peace,

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living one and harmony, with thelove at our call. We are
the ones we've been waiting before.We can do with our truth, bring
new light and to all we do. We are love at our best in

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the way conscious lives. We loveat our best in the way conscious leve.

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Enter it to Weston. We areall one. Whatever we do to

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ourselves or another affects the whole.May the divine within you guide you as
to what steps to take to beof service to our beautiful planet. Pay
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