The Future of Humanity w/ Pamala Oslie

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Speaker 7 (02:04):
Hello everyone, Welcome to the Angel Quest Show. I'm Karen Noi,
author of Your Life after Their Death Through the Eyes
of Another Wee Consciousness in the Angel Quest Oracle Deck,
and I am so happy that Pam Osley is my
returning guest today. Pam is the best selling author, psychic,
intuitive medium, and aura expert. She's appeared on ABC, CBS, NBC,

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The View, Gaya with Lisa Garr, and hundreds of other
television and radio shows. She's written five successful books, including
Life Colors, Love Colors, Make Your Dreams Come True, and
her latest books, Infinite You and The Truth. According to John, Hi, Pam,
thanks so much for returning to the Angel Quest Show.

Speaker 8 (02:48):
Hi Karen, it's great to be with you again. We
had fun, right.

Speaker 7 (02:51):
Oh sure? Did I bought Maybe? I bought five books
and I'm recommending it to everyone about aurus. But last
time we talked about ours on Life Callers, which was
amazing and thanks for that. But this time we're going
to talk about what I think is a little bit
more serious humanity's future. So are you ready?

Speaker 8 (03:14):
Yeah, We've got a lot to talk about. It's actually
really exciting.

Speaker 7 (03:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (03:20):
So.

Speaker 7 (03:20):
The first thing I wanted to ask you is what
has the other side shared with you? About humanity's future.

Speaker 8 (03:29):
Oh, I love that question. It's so it's so huge. So, Karen,
you know, you and I both talked to the other side,
or talked to the unseen, or talk to higher consciousness,
you know, all those So I get a lot of
guidance from the other side, and I have for the
last forty some years. So anyway, I started asking specific
questions because I wasn't getting answers on the side, so

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I went to the other side and went, all right,
I'm getting concerned. I need to know some answers. So
the first thing I asked is why does it feel
like everything is so divided on the planet right now?
It's so divisive. It's so them against us and you know,
blue and red and this is this like it just
felt and it felt angry, and I went, why is
it feel Why is everything so divisive right now? And Karen,

(04:12):
they showed me a cell, like a biological cell. Mm hmm,
single cell. They said, when it's getting ready to grow,
it divides.

Speaker 9 (04:21):
Oh that's interesting again, and it divides again, not to
go off into different directions, but to become something greater,
to become a larger entity.

Speaker 8 (04:32):
And oh, my gosh, that's what's happening. We're actually growing
into something larger, and we don't know what it is yet,
but it's larger. Although I did get some hints on
that one too, so that one made me feel better,
going know, we're.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
So dividing, you know, I feel really good about what's
happening right now. I feel everything's going to shift. I
feel excited. Oh yeah, all of that, and I can
explain it other than my intuition and what my guys
are telling me. Looking forward to even starting now until
the end of the year next year.

Speaker 8 (05:06):
Yeah, we'll get more. We're in a shift. And anytime
there's a shift this large that happens, there's always chaos.
Anytime there's strange, there's chaos that goes around it. So
just got to ride the wave. So the next thing
I asked my perception, I went, why does everything feel
like it's going backwards? It's like, oh my gosh, we're
banning books and women are getting less rights and LGB

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those stuff's getting less rights. Why does it feel like
we're going backwards or why are we going backwards? And
they showed me a slingshot and they showed me at
getting pulled back and back and back and back, and
when it lets loose, it's going to fly forward really fast,
so fast. We just experienced a piece of that. Yes,
is how fast I mean? They said, it's going to

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shift so quickly that it'll make your head spin, but
in a positive way. To Oh my gosh. And I
asked this over a year ago, and so we just
had a taste of it just recently.

Speaker 7 (05:59):
It's like, yeah, but I'm ready for it. How about you.

Speaker 8 (06:02):
No, I'm beyond ready for it.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 8 (06:08):
So then they went on to explain it. Go, well,
so where we headed, what's going on? And they went
to they explained to me, and I've heard this word
over and over again since, and again I asked this
quite a while ago, and they said, we're excuse me,
We're entering into a renaissance, a new renaissance. We've done
something like this similarly before, where we had the fall

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of the Roman Empire. Then we had the Dark Ages
where we had a pandemic, we had the Black Death,
and so it's like and everybody thought everyone was dying
and it was dark. They thought it was the end
of the world. Oh my gosh, everything's falling apart. That's it.
They couldn't even have foreseen. I'm assuming the majority of
them that what was going to merge out of the

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Dark Ages was the Renaissance. There was science. Newtonian physics
showed up during that. Okay, so the world wasn't flat
anymore and the Earth wasn't the center of the universe anymore. Right,
so Newtonian physics showed up that didn't exist before then, right,
I mean Newton that's just like all these new scientific
things that showed that the world was not what we

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thought it was, new philosophy, new art, new literature. And
then even the printing press came out during the Renaissance,
so the masses had more access now to information because
the printing press came out, So they couldn't even have
imagined in the Dark Ages what was going to emerge
in the Renaissance. So it's like wow, but it was

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a radical change. I mean, the world wasn't flat anymore.
Can you imagine people coming back and going, it's not flat,
it's round. We just sailed around the world. How people
would take that, They're like, there's no way, you know,
how are people going to stay on the bottom side
if it's you know, if it's round. How did they
not fall off on the bottom side. It's like I
could imagine the shift and consciousness and the resistance and

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the fear and the you know whatever. It's like it
was all new. So anyway, they said, we're entering into
now what they're calling a new renaissance. And this renaissance
is not going to be based on Newtonian physics, which
is very mechanistic, right, cause and effect, and you have
to cause something to act by pushing on it or
a force of action whatever. Separate, we're separate bodies. That's

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all Newtonian physics. They said, the new renaissance is going
to be based on quantum physics, which is basically energy
and consciousness. And if you look at our technology right now,
the majority of our technology is based on quantum physics.
It's energy, it's bits of information. So even our cell phones,

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the satellites, the Internet, all of that is based on
quantum physics. So it's a radical shift in understanding who
we are because we think it's all physical and matter
and separate. And what we're starting to discover now is
that everything's connected. I mean, the Internet is connecting us. Actually,

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I was shocked at this Mark Zuckerberg with what they
call it, no meta you used to be Facebook whatever
he said. The next phase is going to be telepathy.
You believe that came out of somebody technology from him? Right,
is telepathy. So the fact that you and I can
do the things that we can do. We can see

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outside of time and see you past, present, future simultaneously.
I teach people and we can talk to the other
side basically just another frequency. I teach people how to
ben spoons, how to go in and out of We're
going to discuss this one later about our future. I
can go in and out of parallel universes, which is
something in quantum physics, which is a big subject and

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people are so fascinated by it. So I want to
get to that because it affects our future. And so
I teach people how to do remote viewing, how to
how to be able to see in sense auras. So
the fact that we can and do things like that
shows me that all of humanity can do that. Everyone
has the ability to do it. Now, is everybody going

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to do it? No, they're not interested in it or
they're afraid of it. And some people are better at
it than others, like you and I are both blue
yellows or colors. Blues are some of the most intuitive
psychic of all our colors. But humanity, people, we have
those natural abilities. So when people start discovering this, well,

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look at how many people are coming up with channeling
and mediumship and talking to the other side and psychic
abilities more and more. And the indigo children excuse me
a sneezer, the Indigo children that are showing up have
been showing up on the planet that can do all
these psychic things, and it's just more advanced, and it's like,
oh my gosh, So the consciousness of humanity is going

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to take a major leap. It's already headed that way,
and Karen I get excited. People. It's so funny to
see people afraid of some of the changes that are
coming up. Specifically, like AI is scaring a lot of
people because they think it's going to be like Determinator,
They're going to take over and you know, or I
rolled out, they're going to take over and destroy humanity.
It's like, no, first of all, AI's being created to

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help us change our lives, because we are still the
majority of people on this planet are still acting as
if we're slaves on the planet, slaves to money. Most
people are having to work in jobs that either it's
drudgery or they don't like it or whatever. We're being
slaves just to money. We're having to work just for money.
And so AI is going to help a lot of that.

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When people get scared and go it's going.

Speaker 10 (11:37):
To take away all our jobs. It's going to take
away all our jobs. It's like, good, then we don't
have to work like that. We'll come up with another
system that all phrase of necessity is the mother of invention.
So with AI doing a lot of the drudgery jobs
and things we don't want to do, people, what they
showed me in the future is people are going to

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be freed up. We're not going to have to work
for money. The whole money system is changing. I don't
think we're gonna have money.

Speaker 8 (12:05):
And I'm looking at how even the bitcoin or you know,
the digital currency. My gosh, they're making that about nothing.
They're making that about nothing, and so it's going to
go beyond that. We're not going to have to worry
about money. And I know this seems like that there's
no way that would take hundreds of years to change.
But look at Karen. We went from having kings, right,

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somebody in charge and they got to be king because
of who they were born to, right, and then we
developed democracy. It's like, where did that come from? It's like, no, no, no,
we're not going to have a king, We're going to
decide who we want to kind of run things. Well,
the next phase they said it's going to totally change,
and they didn't show me exactly what it was, but

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I can tell you my intuitive sense of where we're going. Okay,
it's going to sound like that's not even possible how
we're going to go there. But can you imagine when
we went from kings to demi or see how people are, like,
how are people going to decide they're not smart enough
that kind of stuff? Right, So we don't know what
we don't know yet. We don't know all the systems
that are going to change. They should us that it

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was going to change, the educational system, the financial system,
the healthcare, all of that is going to change because
of quantum physics and because of things like AI includes
that just all the biology things that they're discovering. Anyway,
so we went from kings to democracy, and my sense

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of where we're going. And this is going to sound
so impossible, but not really, because we're already seeing examples
of it. Is self governing. We already know right from wrong.
We're not going to need somebody to tell us how
to know what choices we have to make or what
the rules are. We're going to just know. We're going
to be so self realized. And look at you and

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I both know how to tap into source. We know
how to tap into all this other stuff. More and
more people are being able to do that. So I
believe people don't want wars anymore. It's like, look at
how quickly we didn't jump to World War three, right,
Everybody's like, no, we don't want this anymore. We don't
want this anymore. We're over it. People want peace, they
want harmony, They want to live in harmony with each other.

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They don't want to be fighting their neighbors. Where we've
got the ability to come up with ways to feed
the entire planet, to house everybody, to have fresh water,
we already have the technology for that, we're just not
doing it. And part of it is the old consciousness
about one of my friends actually said, when people have

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understand the power of love, and they go after that
more than the love of power. Yes, And when money's
not a controlling factor anymore, people are and we're not
letting people tell us what to do anymore. They're not
governing us, but we're self governing, then all of a
lot of that stuff, if not all of it, is
going to go away, right.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
Yeah, yeah, Well, we have to raise the vibration and
of the planet by raising our own vibration. That's so
it's more on par with the energy of who we
really are, which is love, peace. And when we do that,
that's when this kind of thing can happen. But here's
the question I want to ask you, but would we
all have the ability to develop advanced consciousness absolutely? How

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will that change the planet? I know it's.

Speaker 8 (15:25):
Yeah. I've done workshops where I teach people how to
do psychic readings, how to see outside of time, how
to talk to the other side, how to see energy fields,
how to heal their own bodies, how to affect matter
with your mind. Right, I've taught workshops on that and
people are really good on those workshops, right, I mean
they're bending spoons, they're bending spoons. I have my course

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quantum leap on my website, so people can take that
course at their own pace, they can do it with
their friends. But I believe that's where our consciousness is going,
which is why you and I are doing things like
spreading this word. Look at there. There's no death like
we survive death. You know, there's other side. Our souls continue.
We're souls. I mean it sounds trite to repeat it again,

(16:08):
but we're souls having a human experience. And I feel
like what's going on is our souls are going you
know what we've done this lifetime, you know this three
D thing, you know, three dimensional stuff and struggle and
wars and starvation well over and over and over again.
We're ready for an elevation of how we're going to
experience life on this planet. We don't have to die

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to go to the other side to be free. I
feel like we're all about wanting to live consciously and
aware and at that level of awareness in and have
a physical.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
Experience exactly exactly. So we're going to take a short break,
but we'll be right back. We have Pam Owsley with us,
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Speaker 7 (17:54):
Oh, and welcome back to the Angel Quest Show. I
have as my guest Pam Osley. She's back a returning guest,
and I'd love for you to continue what we were
talking about before the break.

Speaker 8 (18:05):
Okay, So I must I'm what I'm seeing because I've
been shown pictures of the future, and I've done readings
on people, and I seen I've seen being able to
travel and it almost looked there were like there were
no boundaries, there were no borders. People could go where
they wanted to go. Now, I don't mean that there
aren't separate countries, but it's like there wasn't. It was
like there was peace on the planet. It was beautiful. Now,

(18:28):
having said that, I'm going to go into a caveat here,
I'm going to go into Yeah, but I'm going to
go into something that's going to sound to most people
like science fiction. But I want to remind people that
a lot of things that used to be called science
fiction are now science fact. I mean just traveling to space,
our cell phones, television, satellites, none of that's skype zoom.

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None of that stuff was you know, in our consciousness
even decades ago, let alone you know, hundreds of years ago.
So the thing that is emerging that has emerged in
quantum physics now, and so that's what I study. It's
like I want to know why I can do all
these things so hand in hand, I studied a lot
of quantum physics and one of the things that they

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have evidence of and I've experienced them, and it's going
to effect. It does affect us dramatically. Are parallel universes
both averse. We are multi dimensional beings and so Newtonian
physics teaches us that we just these little biological machines

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that were born and then we you know, we grow,
we age, and then we deteriorate, and then we die.
That's very Newtonian physics. Quantum physics is not that at all.
You can't destroy energy. Energy doesn't isn't destroyed, It just
changes forms. So one of the things that they've discovered,
and people can go google the the double Slit experiment

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and then research. I'll tell you what that means in
lay terms, but the double Slid experiment and Hugh Everett
is the one that coined the multiverse. He discovered that
basically the multi dimension. I'm gonna explain what this is
because what they're saying, I don't know which way to go,
the double slid experiment or just to tell you in

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lay terms what they know about parallel universes. Okay, So
basically they've discovered that there's more that every time we
make a choice. This is going to sound so weird,
but to understand, if we think Newtonian physics, we think
we're just this little one, you know, just this little
biological machine and there's only one reality. But we remember
We used to think there was only one continent, then

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one planet, one solar system, one galaxy, and now they're
discovering that there's infinite number of galaxies. And now they're
discovering there's an infinite number of universes. So here's the
weird thing. These other universes are as close to you
as your breath. They overlap right there. So I'm going
to use late terms them to describe what this means.

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So right now, in the room you're in right now, Karen,
there's at least ten radio stations broadcasting and all that information,
all that the music, the talk, whatever, it's all around you.
But you don't know that because you're not tuned into
that frequency. But if you went to your radio, and
this works with TV and webcasts and podcasts, all of

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that stuff. If you go to your radio and you
turn it to say, ninety nine point nine, you're going
to hear the show, the music, and the talk that's
coming out of that program, and that becomes part of
your reality. Right now. If you change it to say
one oh seven, now you're going to hear that show,
that music, that talk, and that becomes your reality. Now,

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the frequency of ninety nine point nine. That show is
still around you. It's still broadcasting around you, but you're
not aware of it because you're not tuned into that frequency.
So these are physicists saying that if every time you
make a choice, every time you decide to put on
jeans that day instead of white pants, there's an actual

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you that is experiencing the day wearing jeans and another
you that's split off and is experiencing yourself wearing white today. Okay,
that's outrageousness is So what that means for you personally
is there's a you that married somebody from high school.
There's a you that never got married at all. There's
a you that lives where you live right now. There's

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a you that's got four kids. There's a you that
doesn't have any kids. There's a you that do you understand,
It's like every time you've made a choice to go
left instead of right, you, there's an there's an actual you,
a multi dimensional U that splits off and is having
that other experience. Now, we sometimes intersect with these other youths.

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If you've ever experienced deja vu, to me is like, oh,
you just reconnected with one of your other selves. That's
having that experience, so it feels like, wow, I've been
here before, for this feels familiar. So the way that
we go scientific physicists are saying that every time you
make a choice, you split off. We just don't know

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that we're doing that because we think there's only one reality.
We think there's only one universe, and these multiverses are
they don't have walls to them or seams to them,
there's no doorways to them. It's just a different frequency.
So the way you go into these different universes is
your thoughts, your beliefs, your emotions, right, and you can

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do that consciously by using your imagination. Okay, So for example,
if you decided you were going to live where you're
living right now, you probably imagined it before you lived
in that state or moved to that state. Right. You
had a picture, you had an image, you had a thought,
you had a belief that you could.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Go do it.

Speaker 8 (23:52):
So there's a you that went to that area and
you moved in there, right.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
So all of these multi deal use exist. And here's
the cool thing. This is an easy and radical way
to change your life. I believe that people who have
had spontaneous remissions like they've got cancer, and then they don't.
Like Anita Moore Johnny right, she died from cancel cancer.
She was riddled with cancer, went into a coma and

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actually died, had a near death experience and was dead
for a long time, like I don't remember what it was,
twelve or twenty two minutes or something. She was out,
she had a new death experience. She came back and
within days there was no cancer in her body. Okay,
Now my experience is she shifted into a parallel universe. Okay,
so here's the cool thing, and I'll give examples of

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how I've worked this. I've got two really radical examples
of what I've done to use it. But I went, well,
you know what, just like aerodynamics, we didn't know we
could fly until they understood the principle of aerodynamics, and
now we just take it for granted that we can
get on a plane of play someplace. Right, So anytime
they discover some new principle in physics, we should be

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able to use that to create more freedom and enjoy
and expansionness. We should be able to use that, that awareness,
that knowledge, that wisdom to be able to change our
lives or improve our lives to give us more freedom
and fun and expansive abilities. So anyway, so where was

(25:25):
that go with that? Anyway? So I went, Okay, now,
if parallel universes are a real thing, here's the cool thing.
On one level, we can do the old way of
trying to change our life. We usually try to go
and change the outside world. Okay, we try to change
we don't like our relationship, or we don't like that,

(25:45):
we don't have enough money, whatever it is. So we
got there and go. I got to work harder, I
got to get smarter, I got to get more of
an education, whatever it is. I got to do this
in the in the Newtonian world, the know Tonian physics consciousness,
I have to work hard because that's how you have
to do it right.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
You have to.

Speaker 8 (26:03):
I don't know that I did the five levels of
consciousness that I learned from Deepak Choprah. So I'm gonna
I'm going to show you this of how easy it
is to change. So five levels of consciousness. Let's say
you have the desire to have ice cream. So in
level one, you have to go interview for a job,
get the job, work at the job, finally get your

(26:23):
paycheck from the job. Go cash in your paycheck, get
in your car, drive to the ice cream store, give
me a hard earned money, and now you get ice cream. Right.
That's a lot of work, but that's level one. That's
where most of us believe. Reality is level two. You
have I'm leading up to something level two. You have
the desire for ice cream, and a friend of your
stops buying, goes, I was just driving through your neighborhood

(26:45):
and you know what, I just bought some ice cream.
Do you want to have ice cream with me? We've
all experienced that synchronicity, right, Yeah, I was just thinking
about you, or I was just thinking about doing that.
Oh my gosh. So it's a form of synchronosity. It's
a level of synchronicity. Level three consciousness. You have the
desire for ice cream, You go to your freezer and
you open it up and there's ice cream in that

(27:06):
Go wow, I don't remember buying ice cream, but there
it is. And I'm sure you've had those experiences too,
so by okay, but I've had those experiences. This is
like wow, I don't remember having one hundred dollars bill
in my purse, but there it is. Wow, where did
that come from? Right level four? I have not mastered yet.
I haven't gotten there yet. I haven't had the experience

(27:28):
of this one yet. To me, this is high level consciousness.
That's you have the desire for ice cream and you
open your hand and it's there. Right, that's christ consciousness,
really high level spiritual consciousness. Right level five, you have
the desire for ice cream and you realize that you
and the ice cream are one. Right, it's all energy,

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it's all consciousness, and most of us like what that level?
That's where I came from. My one experienced ice cream.
I want to experienced the taste of it. So we
haven't gone to that level, but it's very possible because
then you know it's you already have it. So anyway,
so when I discovered that parallel universes were a real thing,

(28:09):
I'm going to use I'm going to use the more
dramatic one, okay, because I did this with my relationship.
I fell in love with somebody who didn't want anything
to do with me. So I realized that in one universe,
I my beliefs were I wasn't lovable, he didn't want
to be with me. I was blonde, he doesn't like blondes.
You know, he's a musician, never wanted to be in
a committed relationship, blah blah blah. And I was like

(28:30):
let us, stated, oh my gosh, this is who I
wanted to be with. I'm going to that example instead
because the other one's very dramatic. Anyway, So he moved
to these coasts. I live on the West Coast. I
live in Santa Barbara. He moved to the East Coast
to be in a band. He's a musician. And I
was devastated. And so two years after he did that,
no contact whatever, I still was wanting to be with him.

(28:52):
And I discovered parallel universes and I went, well, if
there's a universe where we're together, I'm going to go
into that unit. So I did a deep meditation where
I imagined, I'm very visual, so I imagined opening up
a membrane, you like curtains, and I went into universe
number two. I was in universe number one. We're gonna
call it right where it just wasn't happening. But I

(29:15):
noticed in that one I didn't feel good about myself.
I didn't feel lovable or anything, and that he was
too good for me whatever. So I went into universe
number two. I looked around and went, No, he's still
on the East Coast. He's really happy with that band.
I would feel bad trying to get him away from that,
So I'm not going to stay in this universe. Then
I imagine going into another one, Universe number three. Again, No,

(29:36):
this is not I still don't feel good about myself.
You know, it wasn't right. I went into we're going
to call it universe number five, and Karen, as soon
as I stepped into that one, I knew, because I
know parallel universes are a real thing. Okay, just like
radio waves, there's different frequencies and you know whatever. So
I knew it was a real universe. And I felt
the grass on my feet, so I was outdoors. I

(29:58):
felt the sun on I could smell it. I could
smell the fresh grass, and I saw in that universe.
I saw him on the East Coast, and I observed
him giving notice to the band, breaking up with whatever
girl he was seeing at the time. Then he was
going to go to Iowa to see his meditating friends.
Then he was going to go to La to see

(30:19):
his rock and roll friends, and he was coming back
to Santa Barbara and we were going to be together, right,
and it was real. Okay, that was just as real
as Universe number one. I mean, I knew it was
a real thing, right. And I don't know if you've noticed,
but a lot of movies now are doing parallel universe thing.
We have everything from Back to the Future, somewhere in time,
sliding doors frequency. One of my favorites is Yesterday, the

(30:43):
movie called Yesterday. But my understanding is a lot of
the superhero movies are talking about that are dealing with
the multiverse, so we're getting it in the consciousness anyway.
So I had that experience. I knew it was real.
I felt comfortable there, I knew everything was like, oh,
this is real. I'm going to stand this universe. He
wasn't happy back there, So we're going to be together

(31:04):
in this universe. So I hadn't spoken to him for
two years. Two weeks later I called him up. Why not.
I wasn't stalking him. He was he loved me, He
missed me in that universe. So I called him out
and said, hey, how's it going, And he said, well,
two weeks ago I gave notice to the band I'm
going to stop seeing this girl. She's too young. I'm
going to Iowa, I'm going to La. He came back

(31:25):
to Santa Barbara and we have now been together for
over forty years. It's beautiful now on top. This is
weird because people go, oh, you were stalking him. I
go no, I didn't stop him. I changed me in
that universe. I felt lovable. I felt like he missed me.
I felt like we were compatible. And here's the weird thing.
In universe number one, all my girlfriends were single and

(31:46):
wanting to get married and have kids, and I mean
they were all complaining that there were no good men.
When I shifted to universe number five, Karen, they were
all with guys. They were engaged. Someone were like just
now getting married. And that was too weeks from the
time I had done this. So at that time, which
was forty years ago, I wanted to go up to
him and go, hey, in universe number one, your complaint,

(32:08):
But I figured at that point everyone was thinking I
was crazy, so I didn't say anything.

Speaker 7 (32:12):
So is this similar to a lot of attraction that
you actually visualized and felt it and saw it. So
it's another word for parallel universe, but you felt it.
You felt all the physical sensations and all of that,
and that is very real. Because whatever we're thinking about
and feeling, yes, hate it in our lives. So we

(32:33):
could call that a parallel universe.

Speaker 8 (32:36):
And yeah, now the benefit in knowing that these are
real things in universe number one, I would have going
to had to do a lot of therapy. I was
going to have to try and convince him. I was
going to have to overcome my childhood thoughts. Blah blah blah.
But I just dropped it. People go, how did you do?
I just stopped putting energy into it. I stopped believing
that was the one I was trapped in.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
Okay, Yeah, so maybe if we can do this with
the planet and we all start tapping into peace on Earth,
peace within ourselves and peace on the planet.

Speaker 8 (33:08):
Yeah, that's how I didn't have to create. I didn't
have to change anything. I didn't have to work hard.
I had changed my perception and my beliefs about reality
about myself, and I had to change my perception of
beliefs about him. Okay, I didn't have to still see
him as resisting not liking me. It was a pretty
blah blah blah. Right, I had to, but it was

(33:29):
an internal job in you. So what I want people
to know is if they want to live in a
world where there's the environment is healthy, we're all happy
and peaceful, we're living in harmony, we're higher consciousness. They
don't have to change the outside world now. They can
then go march forward, they can go do projects that
clean up the waters. Though they can do that, there's

(33:51):
nothing wrong with that. But if you want to change things,
you have to not feed that version about reality. You
change to your own beliefs, your own thoughts, your own perceptions,
your own emotions. So we don't have to change anybody
else out there.

Speaker 7 (34:07):
And that's exactly what I always tell my clients and
friends is we tap into what we desire rather than
what we don't want, focus on solutions rather than the problems.
That's how we'll make a change in the world. And
it because of ourselves. We need to be peaceful within
ourselves as well. We have to take another short break,
but we will be right back and we'll continue.

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Speaker 7 (35:06):
Okay, so welcome back to the Angel Glass Show. And
we were talking about parallel universes, law of attraction and
all that pem. Do you want to continue what we're
talking about?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (35:17):
Yeah, because to me this makes life so much more
interesting and more fun. Because we've been trained to believe
that we're victims, and this helps us see that we're
not victims of our lives. We're actually creating our lives
and we don't have to change anybody else. We can
create whatever we want. Now. Part of the issue is
because I have people going, oh my gosh, how do
I do that? It seems so hard. So one, you

(35:38):
have to know and believe that parallel universes are a
real thing. Although you know what, I don't know how
electricity works, I still use it. I have no clue
how my cell phone works. I know it's bits of
information that fly across the ethers, but I don't know
how it works, and I still use it, so it's okay.
So the issue is we get very addicted to our stories,

(36:00):
did to our emotions, and so it gets us stuck
in that same story because I've had people go no,
but you don't understand, this is the reality. This is
my real story. I am in a really unhappy I
don't have money. I mean it just and so they
keep repeating it over and over again. So one of
the things is we have to let go of our
story if you want to change. Now, Karen, I really

(36:21):
believe that we came to the planet to have experiences,
you know, the same reason we go to the movies.
We want to feel things, We want to see things,
and people can go there to learn from a movie
if they want, or they can just go have the experience.
They can feel emotions. My experience and belief is that
we came here for the experience to add to the
all is all that is. So we're having experiences here.
So don't make any of the experiences wrong. If you

(36:43):
don't like them anymore, you have the ability to change.
Just you have to notice your addiction to your story.
And so when I tell people, Okay, so stop talking
about it, stop getting attention with it, because unless you're
really getting something out of it, then go for it.
Get the juice out of it, the emotions out of it,
get the drama out of it, get the pour me
out of it, and the attention from people that you

(37:05):
need until you're over it. But you do have the
ability to not be addicted to that, and we get
very addicted to our emotions with it too. Okay, So
what happens if.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
Somebody's going through a difficult time. A lot of people
who are listening to the show, they've had a loss
or something going on in their lives that trauma. So
what would you tell them?

Speaker 8 (37:27):
Well, one, I'm going to say, because I'm going to
jump right to and I'm going to say, you know what,
Number One, I trust your soul knows exactly what it's
doing and what you want to do. Experience here, you're
having experiences. You and I both know that loss. It's tough.
When they go to the other side, you know, it's
like ah, but we know they're still there. We know
that you can still connect with them. So learning more
about how reality is and how all these things happen

(37:50):
helps okay, But also, I trust your soul knows what
it's doing. So if you're going through a rough time,
let's put it this way. I believe the only we
only suffer for two reasons. One is we've forgotten who
we are. We forgotten we're the creators and the choosers
of our experience, and we chose things before we came
here that we wanted to experience. We still have free will.

(38:12):
You can change it. It's not just wy. You don't
have any circumstances over that, any power over the circumstances,
only how you react to it. No, you actually have
created the circumstances to have the to know who you are.
So we've either forgotten who we are or the second
reason we suffer is because we chose it because we

(38:32):
wanted to know what it felt like. We wanted the
experience of it. We wanted to see how it felt,
or we wanted to overcome it, or we wanted to
see what we were made of. We wanted to see
if we were strong enough to survive it. Or we're
creating it so that we can have compassion for other people.
Your soul knows why you created it, but it's not
a blame. It's I feel like one of the biggest

(38:53):
shifts we need to do careen is get out of
victim consciousness. Okay, because it keeps us stuck in powerlessness.
This is not a blame. So if people don't like this,
that's okay. They don't have to. They can still live
in the world that they want where they feel like
they're a victim or they don't have any power over
their circumstances. There's no judgment about that. I trust your
souls having those experiences for a reason. Maybe it's helping

(39:16):
you have more compassion for people, or maybe then you're
going to go help other people that have suffered through it.
So I'm going to play two little games with you.
You're ready for that to show you well because they go, no, no,
I'm struggling, and I go, first of all, I have
a lot of compassion. I definitely have compassion. There's no
reason why we can't have compassion for people. But the

(39:36):
best thing to do is help people be empowered to
get out of it, not just feel sorry for them,
because that's looking down on them, that's helping them feel
like they're helpless, that we don't know who we are,
that were these amazing, powerful, radiant light filled light beings
that are creating this whole movie. And when you really
get that, it's so much more fun here, it's so

(39:56):
much more interesting. So now when I have things happen
to go that I don't exactly like, I go, that's interesting,
that's an interesting thing. I think I'll just explore that.
I think I'll just see what that is. Okay, I'm
over it. Now I'm going to change into a different universe,
so I'm conscious of it. So here's here's some games.
Two quick ones. Okay, ready, okay, So first of all,
you can do this with your eyes closed. If you want.

(40:18):
Imagine a yellow pencil. Just imagine a yellow pencil. I mean,
really look at this yellow pencil. Look at the writing
on it, the tip, how sharp it is, Look at
the eraser on it. Look at that little band that
holds the eraser on. Really look at that yellow pencil. Right,
we got it. Maybe it's another number two. Can't quite
make out the writing, but really look at that yellow pencil.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Got it?

Speaker 7 (40:39):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (40:39):
Now, like, go the yellow pencil, push that over to
the side and look at a red rose. Look at
that beautiful red rose. Look at the deep color of
that red rose. Imagine what color it is. Look at
maybe there's dewdrops on it, and the petals are really soft.
And look at the stem whether it See if it's
got thorns or no thorns on it. See if it's

(41:00):
got leaves on it. But really look at that red rose.
Look at how beautiful that color is. You can almost
smell it. Okay, now open your eyes. Now how hard
was that to stop thinking about the yellow pencil and
go over to the red rose.

Speaker 7 (41:13):
Oh it was a little difficult. I kept saying the pencil.

Speaker 8 (41:16):
Okay, So but you did it right. Okay, So some
people are very attached to the yellow pencil. But at
least you're aware that I keep thinking about the yellow pencil.
It's like, well, why maybe there's a reason why you're
attached to that yellow pencil. Let's go with about it, right.
But eventually you were able to switch over to the
red road. Yes, okay, So we're going to do one
more quick game, real quick. Okay, close your eyes. Okay,

(41:40):
with your eyes closed, look at look no, no, open
your eyes first. Let's do it this way. Look around
and notice everything that you see in your environment that's green. Okay,
look in everything that you see in your environment that's green.
Really look, really, look everybody that's listening, really look at
everything that you is green. You think you got it all?

Speaker 7 (42:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (42:02):
Okay, close your eyes now, with your eyes closed, remember
everything you just saw that was green. No cheating, no peaking.
Just remember everything that you saw that was green. Right, Okay,
looking around? Got it? You think you got it? Okay,
open your eyes and see if you missed anything that
was green. Look around and see if you missed anything. Karen,

(42:23):
are you wearing green? It's hard to tell on this, okay,
but there's green on the screen.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
Yeah, in the background.

Speaker 8 (42:31):
Yeah, okay, did you miss anything?

Speaker 7 (42:34):
I did all the way on my left. I didn't
see that before.

Speaker 8 (42:37):
Okay, all right, now close your eyes again. Okay, now
with your eyes closed, remember everything that you just saw
that was black. Don't peek with your eyes closed. Remember
everything that you just saw that was black. Okay, Okay,
open your eyes and look around. Did you miss it?

(43:00):
I think that was black?

Speaker 7 (43:01):
Missed a lot.

Speaker 8 (43:02):
Okay. So here's the theory of the theme to that
or the reason for that that black was around the
whole time you saw when you were looking around, But
you had an agenda going on to look for green.
So that's what you saw was the green, right black
was still there. So people have an agenda going on.
It's like I never have any money, or love never

(43:23):
works out for me, or my health was always a problem,
or you know, there's always bad things in my life.
They have an agenda going on to look for that.
But the other stuff's right there. You know, maybe you
didn't maybe your whole childhood wasn't terrible. You know, maybe
you have had money at times. It's not like you've
been nothing. You never do, you understand. So people have
an agenda going on. So all you've got to do

(43:45):
in order to change your thoughts, your beliefs, your addiction,
your focus on it is to find a new thing
that you want to focus on, find a new belief,
new thoughts you want to have, and when you have
a belief, you will gather evidence to support that belief.
Creative thing is having an agenda. So you choose a
different belief and notice it. But I still am thinking

(44:06):
about that yellow pencil. That's okay, that's okay. I might
believe for Lola. But if you commit to that new
belief and then you'll start gathering evidence to support that
new belief.

Speaker 7 (44:17):
Right, that's that's awesome. I also what I find when
I'm going through a difficult time, and I know about
the law of attraction, you could call it parallel universes.
I know whatever I'm focusing upon grows, and I know
when something shows up in my life that's not good. Yeah,
I'm not a victim. I created that. But in any case,
so I love Abraham Esther Hicks. And she has online

(44:39):
on YouTube morning Rampage of Appreciation. First thing in the morning.
I have it on my cell phone. First thing when
I opened my eyes, it's a Rampa pattage of appreciation.
I this is a very good day. This is a
wonderful day. Oh this is going to be this is
a beautiful day. And she goes on and on and on,
and you aren't your day that way, The whole day

(45:02):
continues to be wonderful because you're focusing, as you said,
not on the yellow pencil, but on the rose. You're
focusing on what you want rather than what you don't want.
But that really does help. First thing in the morning, Yeah,
Billy does do it.

Speaker 8 (45:16):
And I want people to know because people feel so
bad if they don't do that. You know what, we're
here to have experiences. If you're having a bad day,
or you're in grief, or you're in fear, or you've
got anxiety, it's like, don't be yourself up for it.
Have the experience, must do it. Like Okay, you know
something bad in my life, I just experienced it. Oh

(45:36):
I shouldn't experience it, I shouldn't have ano. No, it's like,
you know what, it's there, let me, let me, let
me get into it, let me feel it, let me
really until I get over it.

Speaker 7 (45:45):
Because whatever you resist persists, so you have to experience
it and then you say, okay, I'm over it. Now
what do I want instead of this?

Speaker 8 (45:53):
Yeah, because we're very creative and adventurous and curious souls.
You really are. We're creative, we're adventurous, and we're curious.
That's one of the reasons we're here. So it's like, Okay,
maybe my soul wanted to experience being in that much
grief or that experiencing that loss, or you know, maybe
that's how just like get into it, absorb it, really

(46:15):
feel it, because we don't hold on We can't even
hold onto a thought that long. Right, because eventually you'll shift,
Eventually you'll change that. The thing that's not okay to
do for yourself if you're not happy is to keep
wallowing and holding on, holding on, holding on and thinking
you don't have any choice, or it's always going to
be that way, right again, the sling shot right.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
So that that point here is, with all this said
and done about parallel universes, lot of attraction, how is
this going to get us to create peace on Earth?
I think it begins I know, I don't think it
begins with ourselves. Right, So if we focus on peace,
we expand that because we're all one, whatever we do

(47:00):
to ourselves or another affects everybody.

Speaker 8 (47:03):
Well yeah, yeah, and watch this. Remember when I went
into Universe one, all my girlfriends were not happy, And
when I went to be which number five, they were
all happy. I didn't have to change them. I didn't
have to overcome it. I didn't have to convince them
that they needed to be happy no matter what. When
I went into a new universe, they were all there.
They were just different. So it has nothing to do

(47:24):
with you don't have to change anyone else out there.
You can, if you want, you can try it's a
little harder to do. You have to work hard, and
you can do that if you want. But the key
is when you shift your universe changes the universe. Yeah,
so how do we create When people go, well, what
what what's the future going to look like? Or I

(47:44):
have people a lot who's going to win the election?
I go, well, which universe are you in? I know
which one I'm in? Which universe are you in? You're
going to be in the universe you believe is the
real one, the one that you know, whether you like
the outcome or not. You're believing in it, you're putting
energy into it. You're putting a medal into it, or
you're putting fear, or you're putting hope into it. Whatever,
whatever energy you're putting into a universe, it's the one

(48:06):
you're going to align with. It's like tuning your your
radio to a certain frequency or law of attraction. It's
it's all frequency, it's all energy. It's in consciousness. So
that's why it's when I was doing psychic predictions for people,
I always told them.

Speaker 7 (48:22):
Number way yeahs.

Speaker 8 (48:24):
Number. When you have for will it's your life, I
can tell you on the path you're on right now,
based on your current beliefs and your and your thoughts,
this is where you're headed. I can see the road
you're on right now. This is where you're headed. If
you don't like that, I have to do shift your thoughts,
your beliefs, change, intentionally change the roads you're on. I

(48:45):
used to use the analogy. Imagine you're in a helicopter
in New York City, you know, and you're flying above
your friend who's in a car down below, and you
see them on you know, going down a certain road.
You go, ooh, get off that street because there's a
big traffic jam ahead. So if you turn right and
go over to streets and then turn left and go
on that street, you won't hit a traffic gym. I
know yourself. You can do that with yourself. You can

(49:07):
tune in and go because people used to go. Kay.
I knew it. I sensed it. I felt I was
headed for a divorce, or I had this barrow, was
headed for illness. I sensed it already. Your soul is
always talking to you right so if you listen to it,
it can guide you into a happier, more peaceful life.
Unless you've intended to have some drama. But you know what,

(49:28):
I'm tired of the suffering, the drama, the blame, the anger.
It's like, it's not part of my frequency anymore. So
I don't experience that anymore. I've had enough of it,
you know, and it's like enough, I'm going for a
new frequency now. So people have choice if they think, well,
this life is all about suffering and hardship, that's reality
and again, not my worst, not my universe. It's not.

Speaker 7 (49:51):
Sometimes because I have many clients, something happens to one
of their family members or something like that did and
create that that was within the vibration of their family
member or whatever was going on with them. So it
depends on how you would react to that. And it's
okay to feel grief, it's okay to feel fear and

(50:11):
all of that in the moment. But then it's important
to focus on what you want.

Speaker 8 (50:16):
A very dramatic story here, real quick here and do
we have it a few minutes. Okay, years ago, I
got a call from my brother that my dad was
in the hospital and they said he's not going to
make it. You need to get here right away. Okay,
I got there. My dad. I can tell when somebody's
about to leave. First of all, they're not in their
body much. And I saw his mother, two of his sisters,

(50:38):
and his brother who had all passed on. He were
all in the room with him, right, the four of
us kids. So I know when I see that, I
know that they're there to help him cross over. Right,
So the four of us kids were in the room.
He had no clue we were in there. He was
out of it. He was gone, right, He had no
clue we're there. He didn't know anybody was there. Right,
So I go, he's getting ready to transition. So every

(51:00):
day we would go in the room and the doctors
are like, it's any minute now. It's any minute now, right,
So four days we went in there. On the fourth day, Karen,
I went, wait a second parallel universes. Am I ready
to lose my dad? God? No, I'm really not. And
there's a spiritual teacher called Jesus who said, the things
you see me do, you can do. Also, the story

(51:23):
is he's raised people from the dead, you know. And
so I went, Okay, I'm not ready to lose my
dad yet. And I don't believe he really wants to
die yet. I'm going to go into a different universe.
So that night I did a meditation where I was
in a different universe where he was fine. He was healthy,
He was not on death's doorstep. He was fine. The
next day, the four of us kids walked into his
hospital room. He was sitting up in bed, talking like

(51:47):
nothing was wrong. We walked in there went, oh, hi,
how are you? I was like, when did you get here?

Speaker 12 (51:52):
Of it?

Speaker 8 (51:52):
And he lived for a quite He got out of
the hospital. He was fine. And here's the weird thing.
When the first thing he said to me when I
went and hugged him, he said, it's my brother still alive.
Because I was just with him. I saw him you,
and I went, well, he's still alive.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
He goes.

Speaker 8 (52:07):
But I went to his funeral. I saw him in
the casket.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
We let him in.

Speaker 8 (52:10):
How's that possible? I go, Dad, I saw him. You know,
he was with you. You were talking to me, goes,
And I saw my mother and her face. She didn't
have any wrinkles. It was all lit up in white light.
But I saw her just as I'm seeing you. How
is that possible? He couldn't stop talking about that.

Speaker 7 (52:24):
It's beautiful. He had a near death experience.

Speaker 8 (52:27):
I lived for a lot longer after that, and I'm
sure in universe number one he did crossover soon, but
in the universe I went into, he didn't. So do
you see how we're saying I didn't. He did die
in one universe, but not in the one I was
in because I aligned with that one.

Speaker 12 (52:41):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (52:42):
That's profound. So that's awesome. Thank you so much, Pam,
It's been amazing. And how can our listeners get in
touch with you? What's your website?

Speaker 8 (52:54):
It's Auracolors dot com. A you are a Colors c
O l os dot com And all my courses are
on there, my books are on there. There's a free
Aura Color quiz on there, and videos and there's a
ton of meditations. I've got a ton of resources on there.

Speaker 7 (53:12):
Beautiful, And do you have any closing words for our listeners.

Speaker 8 (53:16):
I just want people to know we don't need to
be in fear anymore. We're expanding, We're in a shift,
we're realizing who we really are and it's fun when
you really learn this stuff. You guys, there's more freedom,
more joy, Okay, more freedom and joy. Do you see
how that's the word out there? Right now. More freedom
and joy, expansiveness, more power, more creative power over your life.

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Life's way more amazing, and you are way more amazing
than you've been taught. So it's okay to become to
emerge that way now.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
Well, thank you so much, Pam for Johannas. It was
so much fun and very very interesting. Thank you, Thank you.
Tune in again to next month's angel Quest show. While
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Have an amazing day and always remember to focus on
the beauty and love all around you. Angel Blessings to
you now and always, By bye.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
From our spirit, we perceive we are one humanity, awakening, sanctity.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Awareness, unity.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
We are here to dance and see our connection with everything, understanding.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
Who we are through the ways of the heart. Let's
choose love, inner peace, living one in harmony with the knowledge.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
At our core. We are the ones we've been awaken.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Or we can do it with the truth and bring
new light into.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
All we do.

Speaker 6 (56:04):
We are in love at our best in the weak consciousness.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
As we grow consciously, we claim sovereignty.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
For our lives. BlimE down, see.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Round it in equality.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
Let's choose love inner be living one in harmony with
the nogglage.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
At our core. We are the ones we've been waiting before.
We can do it with our truth, bring new light
into all we do.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
We are love.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
At our best in the week consciousness. There's a child
like love mother within us.

Speaker 6 (57:12):
All we come to Scoff looking up for one love
hot to heart.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
Sisters and brother. Let's choose love, innerths, living one in

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harmony with the nose.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
At our call. We are the ones we've been waiting for.
We can do it with that true.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Bring new life to all we do. We are love
at our best.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
In the weak consciousness. We love at our best.

Speaker 13 (58:29):
Consciousness enterre it to the week consciousness.

Speaker 11 (58:54):
We are all one. Whatever we do to ourselves or
another affects the whole. May the divine within you guide
you as to what steps to take.

Speaker 12 (59:11):
To be of service to our beautiful planet. May peace
prevail on Earth.

Speaker 8 (59:27):
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