July 29, 2025 • 53 mins
Includes Rascal Does Not Dream of Dreaming Girl / Rascal Does Not Dream of Sister Venturing Out, and Rascal Does Not Dream of Knapsack Kid
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One up.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Everyone, Welcome back to the anime version. Today, we are
discussing the bunny Girl SENTPI movies, which I told Briggs
is super confusing because it's more like Rascal does not
dream of movies because there's no bunny Girl in the titles.
But to be clear, let me just open up my
messages with Briggs. No, actually, I have the movies here.
(00:22):
So the first one we're talking about is Rascal does
not dream of a dreaming girl. Then Rascal does not
dream of a sister venturing out, and then Rascal does
not dream of a knapsack kid, which I don't even
know what that one means because I watched the movie,
but I don't know what it's referring to.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Our main protagonist was seeing a small version.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Of mine because she had a knapsack. I think she
had a napsack.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, that's why. For some reason, when I heard knapsack,
I thought of, like you know when like someone doesn't
have clothes and they just put on like like they
just have some some kind of like great the brown
thing or something on them.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Oh my god, Oh I know you're thinking, yeah, I
know you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Of yeah, like uh if you yeah, like, if you've
seen that thing with the dragon and the girl, the
book we read in Canada, she's in one of those.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Bad unlocked you're just unlocking memories.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, okay, But anyway, today we're talking about bunny Girl Sampi.
Apparently it's not even really called bunny Girls Sampi was
the first one. Rascal does not dream of bunny Girl?
Is that why the first season was the first season,
So I kept on calling it bunny Girl Sampi. That's
what everyone calls it. But yes, there's three different movies.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And I had to draw like I didn't. I don't
think they're like all of them are available on on
actual streaming services, which I know Breaks is used to
but for me, like, I'm not so then I had
to deal with you know, the wide open sea and
and getting pop ups and not having a good experience.
But I've figured it out eventually.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, I have my stuff set up. I yeah, yo, yeah, yo,
it up quite a bit. But anyway, I'm excited to
talk about these three movies. I do feel like overall,
these three movies could have just been a twelve episode season.
Other than the first movie, the other two didn't really
feel like movies. I just felt like three episodes slap together,
it's a movie. I tend to prefer watching like anime
(02:25):
as seasons rather than movies, but sometimes with movies you
get like a higher budget, and the first one you
could definitely tell it kind of made a little bit
more sense.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
For it to be a movie.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I guess, yeah, your general thoughts though.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
My general thoughts is the first movie hit hard. It's
the best of the three, which again might not be
great considering like it doesn't like pick up Steam. Maybe
that's what you want, but like, this movie was like
really good, and then I feel like the other movies
(03:00):
weren't as good, and I think it's because they didn't
shine where this show shines. And what I mean is
the second one, for example, was very much slice of Life,
which is fine, and all of them are slice of life,
but the first one had all that mystery that like
(03:20):
the supernatural brings, and it was like very suspenseful. They
used it very well. I think that's where this show
shines the most, not just when it's like Slice of Life,
but also when it's bringing a supernatural in a very
exciting way, in a mysterious way. And there was time travel,
and I love time travel. You guys might know if
you've been listening to the podcast, but yeah, the second
(03:43):
one was almost didn't even need to have puberty syndrome
in there. It was just her overcoming her fear of
not going to school and dealing with with I guess,
regaining her memories and stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I do agree with you. I agree the first one
it kind of made sense for it to be a movie.
It felt like a movie. The other two, I think
we're The thing that I like about these movies is
I feel like they're just fully cannon. They're part of
the story, and they just kind of continued where the
first season left off and answered a bunch of the
(04:16):
questions and a bunch of things that they didn't finish
doing in the first season were done in these movies.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
True.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Now, I think if I think about these three movies
not as individual products, but as like just like one
big continuation, because one of them is like only an
hour long. One of them is like an hour and
ten minutes long.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
No, I think they're all like, I don't know, the
websites I was watching, they were all like at least
an hour and ten minutes. And then I think the
longest one was an hour and thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, the first one was an hour thirty because they
covers two volumes of the light novel and then Venturing
Out and Naps that kid were a little bit shorter,
covering volume eight and then volume nine.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So what was I trying to say?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I was just trying to say, like, if I think
about it just as like a a continuation of the
series and not as like individual movies, Like I didn't
go to the theaters to watch this. If I went
to the theaters to watch Sister Venturing Out, I would
have been extremely underwhelmed. But like, considering my my feelings
after season one were kind of like, Okay, they need
to cover Shoko makon O'Hara because what the hell's going
(05:16):
on with her? They need to continue Kaide's story because
she just got her memories back, her brother just had
a mental breakdown.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But now we have a It's like it's a whole
new character Kaide.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Right with her new memories because she doesn't have any
of those past two years memories with her, So it's
kind of like a whole new character we got introduced
to at the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'm like we need to cover that.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And then up until now, our protagonist has been worrying
about my about my sister, about his sister, about his
friend Futaba whatever her name is, Nodak he was he
was solving everyone's problems, Koga's problems, but not really dealing
with his own. Other than like a little sprinkle here
(05:57):
and sprinkle there, we didn't have an arc for him.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The climax a bit was dealing with him, but I
know what you mean.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, that was like his mental breakdown and he kind
of got over it, but he didn't actually deal with
his problems.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And I feel like that's why.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
What season, what the third movie was about, was actually
kind of finally giving some focus to our main character.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But we'll go through them chronologically.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I wanted to give that general opinion that I liked
them all as movies individually. If I went to the theaters,
I'd be pissed, but like as a continuation of season one.
If I think of these three movies as just like
a season two banger, yeah, and like I'm not everything
I wanted.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I don't even know one hundred percent if I'd be
pissed if I went to the movies, because again, compared
to your average stuff, it probably isn't that bad. But
I guess you're talking about like paying for a full
length movie price and then you get that like through episode.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
If I go to the movie, then buy the popcorn
and a drink and and and spend twenty I've we're
spending like forty dollars to go watch dude. I feel
like since Sister Venturing Out, Sister Venturing Out was like
they went they were even like montages and just like
like I don't like, I don't know, man, it just
felt like they're like, we want to make the movie
(07:08):
rat would not be dream of a dreaming Girl.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
We want to make the naps that kid.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
But like, obviously we have to cover volume eight with
like Kyde's development, Let's stretch you out to be an hour.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I guess, yeah, yeah no, And like I said, the
first part, let's start with that because I think that's
where the show and what those kinds of themes is
at its best. And yeah, Jordan is funny in the
chat saying Sister Venturing Out was peak, so he.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Did like it. We talked about it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I did, Okay, Yeah, I do think it's like good
in its own way. It just like whenever I think
about it being a movie, it bothers me. But then
when I'm like, oh, that was just like two episodes
for three episodes in the middle of an anime, I'd
be like, perfect.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Love that they didn't bloss over Kade's development.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
We'll get to this. But I think that they did
a good job with how he answered the quest question
like who does he like more, because I think that
was on everybody's mind. And then when he he said,
I like, I can't pick. It's like having two kids,
two sisters. You're both my sister. I love you equally,
(08:15):
And I'm like, that was the perfect answer. So I
really like that they thought about how to handle this situation.
I didn't know what he'd say, I didn't know how
he defused the situation, but that was a perfect answer.
So I will give them credit for that.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Mm hmm, let's cover Rascal does Not Dream of Dreaming Girl.
I like that they focused on Chokomakanahara for the first
movie because it did feel like we met her twice
in season one, one time through a flashback when our
main character was in need. He showed up, she showed up,
Boom scars on his chest around the same time, we
(08:51):
think the scars are associated with like his puberty syndrome
or his sister's puberty syndrome, whatever, and and we're not.
We don't have a lot of answers there. End of
the season, his sister gets her memories back, he goes
into a mental breakdown, and when he needs someone once again,
Choko makin O'Hara pulls in and is there for him
during his time of need. Boom scars on his chest
(09:14):
once again. And you're like, does this person even exist?
And goes and you actually made an insane call last
sear when we watch season one? What was that?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Is she from the future? I swear to god you
said it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That was That was one of the things that probably
crossed my mind. Another thing was is she a finkment
of his imagination? So yes, it wasn't like I knew
one hundred percent, but I was throwing stuff at the wall,
and yeah, one of them turned out to be correct.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
What a call? That was actually insane?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And I already watched the movie at that time, so
I was just like, I don't know if I can't
tell you, but do what a call? I was kind
of I was like internally freaking out.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, Like, I think it was well done, and I
think I figured it out that it was the heart
his heart, but it wasn't that much of the reveal,
so it was like only a little bit ahead of
the reveal. So it's still I got to feel a
bit good that I figured it out. But I also
appreciated the twist, and it makes sense in the sense
(10:13):
that two people can't be together if they're from different timelines,
like they can't be observed together, whatever. But the fact
that the heart was there and like they were different people,
but the heart was getting affected because both people had
his heart. That was a cool twist and something that
clearly they knew from the beginning, which is why he
(10:33):
had those scars on his chest to begin with.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, the author definitely thought this out thoroughly, in like
introducing this character early on in the flashback, having the
scars early on, and then covering it for this big
movie afterwards.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
It is great, and you know it was entertaining too,
because again you feel sorry for her because she's gonna die, right,
That's one of the things you're keeping in mind as
you watch, and not the whole time but when you
find out, but before that she was the only rival
of my that was just so forward. Yeah, it made
(11:09):
for some interesting dynamics where you know, usually maybe you
could think that might could be jealous of a girl,
but the girl's not outright like hitting on him. But
here Choko was definitely hitting on him hard, which was
fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, right in front of her, right in front of her.
It was great.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And then's adult This is adult Choko makun Ohara. By
the way, yes, up until this point no one else
had seen it was our main character's first crush was
this adult version. During season one, we meet the younger
version and it was like something with like a stray cat,
and then our protagonist Sakuta took in the stray cat
(11:48):
and said, you could come by whenever you want to
visit until like you're able to take it in yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
We do find out that the young version is dying.
She's gravely ill and needs a heart transplant. But then
during this season, the older one appears once again, finally
in front of other people, showing that they exist, but
she couldn't go home because she's in the same universe
as the younger one. At the same time, so they
can't be observed together, right, But.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Again they made like twists and turn like they made
us keep wondering and throwing us off constantly with the
fact that at first she was saying it was the
same one, just growing older, and then we find out
that it wasn't. But then she even lies about when
and where he's going to get into the accident. And yeah,
(12:36):
there's just so many twists and turns, and it really
kept me interested excited, like what is he gonna die?
My the mind pushing him out of the way.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Oh, my god, and dying it was said.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
There was so many emotional moments, so many twists and turns.
And while I was kind of with you where I
was able to figure some things out, it wasn't like
I think them out so early on. And then as
I figured some things out, then you get a whole
different twist, Like I didn't realize that there were two
different showcos until a little bit on. Then my jumped
in front of the car, sacrificing herself. You have Shoko
(13:13):
also trying to sacrifice herself and tell uh Sakuta like,
so basically for context for the people watching, Sakuta ends
up dying in this version of a timeline, and then
when he gets hit by a car and dies, they
use his heart to save Shoko. Right, but Shoko is
trying to be like sacrifice herself and kind of sit
(13:35):
and told Sakuta like the wrong area or like he
told she told her to meet him, to meet him
at a certain place for a date, knowing he would
go to my instead, and that's where he was initially
meeting my and end up getting hit by a car
or something.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Maybe I'm screwing up the exactly, so I didn't set.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Up with him, and and then he later realized that
the place he was supposed to be hit by a
car wasn't the actual place, and they starts running to
the other place. But then obviously he gets it was
he gets.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But from my understanding, it was all it was all
part of and.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
We're like to get into trouble.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Initially, My wanted to meet with Sakuta at the fight
like that some type of festival, right that was kind
of not initially, but like when the first time they
brought up New Year Christmas Eve, My brings it up
and then says, no, let's do this instead. Because Choko
had already asked him, because Choko knew that if Sakuta
(14:33):
and my went to go to that place, that's when
he gets hit in the previous past.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, like, uh yeah. The point is she made sure
that he wasn't where he was supposed to be at
the exact time, like she was trying to make sure.
But it was a psychology exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, that's what I liked about it. It's like, I
don't know, I'm not going to explain it again. It's
a little confusing, but I do like the like the
reverse psychology because she's from the future, She's able to
change his motives and end up in a different place
to not be hit. But then Sakuta, being the fucking
self sacrificial, always kind of putting others first and willing
to sacrifice stuff his own well being, wants to go
(15:16):
to that place and get hit by the car, which
is crazy because MAI's literally like, choose yourself, choose me.
At the same time, it was really good.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It was really good in the sense that it forced
them to look at the actual consequences in a way
where they could go back because of time travel, and
he saw the consequences of his quote unquote selfless behavior
in that if he hurting himself to save Shoko, he's
(15:49):
also hurting my And in this case, he literally killed her.
But even if he didn't kill her, if she didn't
die because of it, then he still would have been
hurting her, and who knows how she would have reacted
to his death right, So he had to at a
certain point decide, I can't help everyone. I have to
choose who's most important for me to help, and obviously
(16:10):
he chooses my, which makes sense, but part of him
thought he could save everyone, or he can help everyone
and just sacrifice himself. But overcoming that and understanding that
by sacrificing yourself you're sacrificing the people that are closest
to and choosing my and telling the future showco because
(16:31):
he knows this and the consequences of his actions, that
he's going to pick my, I think was a very
powerful thing to do. And then eventually he kind of
wants to go back again and like save everyone, which
again kind of takes away from from it for me,
because it would have been nice if he's just like yeah,
But Choko is the one who decides to handle it
(16:53):
on her own by going back, which put that part
was a bit confusing to me. I don't know, it
kind of seemed like it cheapened it a bit. What
do you think because she goes back and then she
seems to fix everything so that no one has to suffer?
What did you think?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But it wasn't Schoko who actually accomplished that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Who was it?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
It was later revealed that what ended up happening was
that My and Sakota, even though they Choko went back
and changed some things. Mayan Sokota didn't remember Choko anymore,
but they were so influenced.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
But I think did that by going back again?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yes, yes, but the only reason Choko lived was because
of my own Sokota. In the end, they were so
so influenced by what had happened, and the thing, even
though they didn't remember, My went on to go and
do that. I do a movie that was like very
similar to Choko's situation. Sakuta and my still like for
whatever reason, they cared so much about it, and then
(17:55):
during that movie they donated to the to that hospital
for heart transplant.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And more reasoning. So basically what happened was Choco sacrificed herself.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Oh, I like that, Okay, but I didn't fully and
fully follow that. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, well it wasn't properly.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It was like kind of hinted at, and then later
on in the other movies it was kind of confirmed.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Okay, I like that because I thought, yeah, she did
the movie and she stuck with them. But the fact
that the movie raised funds for this that actually literally
helped her, and that their bond transcended time and actually
saved her. Okay, on second examination, yeah that was cool.
And obviously we get the heartfelt moment at the end
(18:42):
where they do remember her and she tears up, which
was cathartic. Right.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It was nice to see the younger show by the sea.
They recognized each other across timelines. It's so fucking it
was so amazing. It did feel a little cheap to
me at first as well, when it's like, oh wait,
how did she survive?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
But then it was briefly mentioned when you used to
pick the.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Poster that like they were forever like mine just felt
compelled to be in this role. She felt so compelled
to be in this role, and they and both mine
and Soccerta felt like they needed to like donate to
this cause. Creating a ripple effect that caused them to
have like I guess more that makes sense, Like they
didn't they don't need someone to die of Yeah, exactly,
(19:25):
they don't need someone to die that exact moment by accident.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
They have more of a system in place.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah they don't exactly. No, that's really cool. Yeah. I
like that that explanation much better than then all that
complication and then her just going back by herself and
fixing it. Like, so, I'm glad that you enlightened beyond
that because I think that went over my head while
I was watching.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It was really subtle.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
It was really subtle, and I think because I was
watching it in chat, I had chat to be like,
but trust me, there's a post credit scene for movie
two that you need to watch.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Or or something like that. I'm like, okay, yeah, thanks guys.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah. When I saw the what's it called? When I
saw the conclusion the outro, I clicked off. I didn't
I didn't know there was stuff to watch at the end.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I think there was a post credit for both the
like for two of them, and they were kind of
a related to SHOWCOO. But anyway, one of my one
part I really liked about this was when my sacrifice
herself first of all a jaw dropping moment, but also
the repercussions of that were Skuta getting to realize what
would happen if he sacrificed himself because he was so
(20:35):
depressed and fucked up mentally without my right Yeah, and
then he's realizing, oh shit, if I keep on sacrificing
myself and doing these things to like to myself, thinking
I'm helping everyone and I'm the only one suffering, that
is not reality exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Like, you can't be selfish in that sense because you're
still hurting someone. You just have to decide who you're
going to be hurting in that sense. So yeah, and
my thing was really good because she acted and again
I like these kinds of twists. She acted cold to
him and like, I will move on. I know you're
(21:14):
gonna make this decision, and and then she ends up
actually screw that, I'm jumping in to save you, which
I thought was that that's complete one eighty, which maybe
you could see coming right because you know how much
she loves him, But that one eighty of I hate it,
but I'm going to accept it. I'm mad at you
(21:36):
but I'm gonna accept your decision there and then actually
going and saving him and not accepting it. That was
it was so powerful, man, it was. Yeah, I loved it.
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I like just that moment of like my as well,
just kind of being like, I think I love you
more than you love me, Like we're usually you as
seme as the opposite, like masa celebrity soccutas, like the
normal person is the guy in this situation chasing, like
trying to Like there's.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
A superficial layer, right, and then there's the emotions underneath,
and obviously on a superficial layer, he's always the one
that's chasing and she's the one that's being chased, and
that's sort of how they establish their dynamic. But underneath,
and I'm not gonna say she loves him more, but
(22:26):
she says she thinks she does. But there they love
each other at least as much, and she's not as
cold and distant as inside as she acts outwardly. Sometimes Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's her thing.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I probably love you more. It's while maybe not the truth,
like because he loves her a lot as well, maybe
it might be similar. Her saying that just shows how
much she does. It kind of brings to reality how
much she does love him, and because, like you said,
on the surface, sometimes it's like she's trying to like
be cold or like haha, chase me, like like playing
(22:59):
the you know.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah exactly. And it was on TV too, if you
remember that, she said that she thinks she likes him
more and then the host was like, oh can you
say that, like you might see this. It was just
they did a good job of bringing in her celebrity
into it, uh with that scene. I liked it.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Anyway, I very much liked Rascal was not dream of
Dreaming Girl probably my favorite movie of the three. Not probably,
It's definitely my favorite movie of the three, although I
do start to appreciate Naps that kid more upon like
a rediscussion with Jordan, I feel like you probably even
more now upon rediscussion of Dream of.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah yeah, because I said from the beginning it was
my favorite, and I had moments where where I was
on the edge of my seat and like, no way,
he's good, No way, what's going on? Are they gonna
go back? Like I had moments where I was on
the edge of my seat wondering what they're gonna do
or no way they did that. And I love time travel,
so that'll always color my experiences with time travel and shows.
(24:10):
But yeah, I like it and appreciate it even more
upon the Briggs notes, Hell.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, I loved That's why I love anime.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Virgin and Ran Cafes is talking about anime with people,
and you kind of get to see it from a different.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Perspective and like pick up things you may have missed.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And I'm excited to hear what you and Jordan talked
about when you talked about the Knapsack Kid. But let's
quickly talk about Sister venturing.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Out sounds good before we do that. I just want
to say one last thing. When puts on like the
Dreaming Girl is so good that even in a show
that I feel like the science, I don't care to
care about the science. The moment of him putting on
like the costume in order to like save both himself
and my because he couldn't come in contact with himself.
(24:55):
But because he's wearing the costume himself, like he doesn't
know that it him, so they're not technically observing each
other or something or like or like one of the current.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, exactly, like like, I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I appreciated it so much one in some of the
other like syndromes, I'm like, yeah, I don't care about
the science.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, yeah, no, it was it was good. It was good. End. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Anyway, Rascal does not dream of a sister venturing out.
So at the end of the first season, Kayde gets
her memories back.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
The last two years are white.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
That version of Kaide essentially doesn't exist anymore, essentially died.
We have the original Kayde that like spent her first
decade of life whatever growing up with the with this reality.
And then when she was getting bullied, I think, I
guess that's the fence mechanism or like sometimes at puberty syndrome,
she lost her memories completely. And then that's when took
(25:56):
care of her for two took care of her for
two years, and then when she reverts back forgetting about
the last two years, Skuta had a mental breakdown and
it kind of ends there, and then that's where the
start of Rasmoo's not dream of a sister venturing out
picks up with her.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Arc yeah, and so she has access to the old
ones journal and then she starts to act like she
would act, even if it's not congruent with her personality,
because despite the fact that they were in the same body,
they have different personalities. And it's all about this original
(26:34):
sister coming to terms with the fact that who she
is and she doesn't need to be this other one
and she's not actually liked less than the other one.
But just like he says so expertly, and it's my
favorite part of the movie because I think he just
gives such a good answer. It's I love you both
as sisters and as much, just like you'd love siblings,
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like equally. And yeah, I thought that he did a
good job because I knew that there was a lot
of connection to the other sister, and I was wondering,
how is he going to deal with this? And they
found a really good way that I think is realistic
and makes sense. Even though that reaction of his when
she said you love her more than me and the
(27:18):
guy came in, remember when they were in the in
the hospital, the not the hospital, the nurse's office in
the school, and then he just gave him that crazy
look because he was falling apart mentally. I was wondering,
how is he going to react to this? But he
found a good solution.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I will say I didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I did like that answer as well, because it does
feel like they're just completely different sisters even though they're
the same person. So that answer was great. I did
like that Kayde was trying to like do things that
the other Kaide was like that would do like go
see the pandas for her brother to like build that bond.
I like that Kaide was kind of in the end
(27:58):
able to make her own choices. At first, She's like, oh,
I want to go to the school that my brother
went to, blah blah blah, but then in the end
she made her own choice for herself for what she
thinks is best for her, and I was like, I
did enjoy that kind of arc of hers.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, And the brother was our main character, was good
at actually kind of think outside the box. At first,
obviously you take what she's saying for face value, and
you want to help her get her way even if
everyone disagrees. But then he was open minded enough, again
like the parent in this situation where he went to
(28:37):
the to meet the counselor, and he went to this
other school and saw the interviews and had an open
mind enough to actually bring this awareness and this consciousness
to his sister in a creative way by using my
(28:57):
sister's concert and then having his sister being able to
talk to the idol and asking, what do you think
she sucks? Do you think she's different or in a
bad way just because she didn't have the conventional schooling system. Yeah,
he really brought it home to her and showed her
he'd accept her no matter what. And again, keep in mind,
(29:19):
this was my least favorite movie, and it's hard for
me to sing its praises just because it's not It
wasn't my favorite topic or anything like that. But yeah,
I do think they did some stuff really well, and
it needed to be addressed because she's an important character
from the beginning, And I agree that was needed to
be tied up because there would obviously be issues with
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the old one disappearing that affecting our main character, and
we saw that with that reaction when that teacher got
into the nurse's office and his like broken reaction, and
then obviously with his sister coming back and how she's
dealing with the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, it's definitely not like an overly amazing movie. Out
of the three year odd comparing it to the season,
But it was, like you said, it was something that
needed to be done her, her character needed to come
to a close and properly develop and I feel like
by the end they achieved that. And it was only
an hour long, so it's like equivalent to three episodes.
It may have been an hour ten, but whatever. And
like in the end, Kayde like has her own confidence,
(30:20):
she is able to build some human connections, make choices
for herself. She's come so so far, and I'm happy
that we had that kind of development. And just to
say something to sing this series praises because like you said,
like it's not like this.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
This movie was overly amazing.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I like how different the two Kaidas were. But more
than that, it makes sense the way that they acted
the old Kayde or not the old Kaida, the one
that was only around for two years, that had no
memories of the past, with a lot more immature for
her age, and built his bond with her brother because
she had all this fear of venturing out right of
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she had no relationship with her mom or her dad.
After she lost all her memories, the mom went to
like got hospitalized, and the dad kind of moved out
and kind of left things in the brother's hands, which
is fucking crazy. But more than that, I just think
like her being more immature, relying on the brother building
this relationship with her brother makes a lot more sense
given the circumstances. Her brother almost became a father figure
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in a way versus the Kaide who the original Kaide,
the one with twelve years of memories, whatever it may be,
feels like a more normal brother sister relationship where it's like,
why you act in that way?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Like it was like a more of a like, yeah,
of course I love you as a brother, but like.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Out with girls, you know, don't go on dates, then.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, yeah, let's go go have go talk to your friends,
not me.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah alone, I'll dre not to that to that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And it makes sense because keep in mind the mother
fell apart mentally, which we'll get to in the third
movie right when that can condition was happening to her,
and so for her, the majority of her memories, or
if not all of them, are this guy being her
brother and her having her mom and dad present as
a mom and dad, and then yeah, the other one
(32:14):
was the complete opposite, where this guy was the mom
the dad, the brother, everything, so it makes sense that
they would see and react with him in very different ways.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I agree overall, like Bunny Girls Empire has just been
consistently good. Whether this is your favorite movie or your
least favorite movie or you yeah, made more sense to
be a series. I think it was still good content
that was needed for the story. And that's what kind
of Bunny Girls Empire seems to be doing. It just
seems to be like, yeah, these are the characters, this
is like the supernatural element that's like possible when they
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have issues or elements that are possible, and they're just
going through time like eventually, I think this new season
is going to be in college, like we're just going
through time through their lives and experiencing like each character
going through development and their own little arcs.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I love it. I love the way that.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I'm excited to see where we go into college years
because correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like
we don't have any crazy loose ends anymore. Right. I know,
I jumped the gun last time and I said, oh,
I think this first season is good on its own,
and then you pointed out some stuff that wasn't wrapped up,
and the movies did a great job of making that obvious.
(33:28):
But now, is there anything obviously other than just what
will happen eventually with our main character and his love interest.
Besides that, which is always going to be the case.
No matter where you end, you're gonna be wondering that,
is there anything else you feel like needs to be
wrapped up after the movies?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I think the main thing is kind of what you
just said, Like now, like my and Sakuta have had
a very beautiful relationship with a lot of elements around it,
but they haven't really had a lot of time. They've
been separated a lot because of work in school and
because socoat.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I want her to work. It always gets in the way. Bro.
I want to get to a point where it doesn't
get in the way. But we'll see if that happens.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Between my career and socotas saving every person left and right,
they haven't had a lot of time to actually like
spend time and do things together in a typical relationship way.
And now they're planning on going to the same college together, right, Yeah,
So I'm hoping that that maybe causes some conflicts, but
overall improvement in their relationship and like having some growth there,
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but I'm sure there's gonna be issues because they haven't
really been able to experience a typical relationship.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, and to hype it up to you guys even
more the IMDb for again, I I do think that
sometimes in the beginning, people do are generous with rating
when they really like something because of the hype. I
remember like Freeran was like perfect score or something at
some point or something like that. But right now it's
(35:06):
ranked eight point six, which is higher than the first
season and higher than The Rascal Does Not Dream of
a Dreaming Girl movie, which is even higher than the
first season. So it's the highest rated thing we've gotten
so far, So they don't drop the ball. Evidently people
are enjoying it, which makes me even more excited to
check it out. Plus, I tell Briggs all the time,
(35:28):
I really appreciate as someone who's older now and not
a high school kid, I appreciate those university atmospheres. I
appreciate those university shows.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
More relatable, even though we're out of university now for
quite a while. It's more relatable to see the guys.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, but at the end of the day, university kids.
It is transitionary, but university kids are adults right at
that point, so there are a lot of ways we
can relate to it, even though yeah, we haven't been
in university for a while.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, it's adult relationships and adult people trying to like figure.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Out the adult responsibilities.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
And responsibilities exactly. It's a lot different than these high
school anime, which I like as well. But yeah, I'm
excited for that element. I do think we need to
see more with Kaide in this upcoming season because even
though she made the decision to go to this high school,
we haven't seen her in it. Remember, she got bullied
and she had so many issues.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
They decided not to do the virtual thing, right.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
The virtual one.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
But I think we're going to cover like if they're
just gonna keep on going like chronologically. While Kayde made
like progress, she actually hasn't started that high school, so
we're gonna see some of that and the issues that
may arise there. And I also Futuba and what's the
other guy's name?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Oh my god, that like the jock guy.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
His his bro, the brow of the series. Yeah, I
don't know the top lay the bro.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Of the series.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
And I just think you have relationships in high school,
and I want to see what happens, what happens if
the brow of the series does not go to the
same university or college as his current girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And I must say before similar go ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I must say this before I forget. I want to
appreciate the fact that the bro of the series is
actually successful human being and has girlfriends and girls interested
in him. I like that. I like that they both
have that. I think too often in anime, and Klanad
is guilty of this. They make the bro the second
(37:37):
fiddle and he's almost like a punching bag, and all
the girls want the main guy. So I like the
fact that here he has a respectable bro that you know,
they're kind of equals in that sense. Yeah, and they
have their own girls and and they're on an equal
playing field. I like the way they did that. It's
more mature than a lot of anime where the main
(37:59):
character gets all the girls and then the side guy
is kind of like a punching bag.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I completely agree. Like he's doing well in sports, he's
got a girlfriend, he has another girl that like their friend,
so that was interested in that's interested in him, And
I do think Futaba's ark was slightly covered, but we're
gonna I guarantee we're gonna get more fa and more
friend that friend moments in the next season.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Okay, from hypothesis.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
I'm just answering your question. You're like, you're like, where
does it go from here?
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Like more clothed.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
While finishing her ARC and having some development to get
rid of the syndrome. I don't think like he wants
to be with that guy or like maybe to have
a boyfriend, right, she wants to.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Feel recognized. Yeah, I think because her family's.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Always traveling, both her guy friends have girlfriends, Like I
feel like she's not getting wasn't getting the most attention,
So that's why she ended up lashing out in one
part of herself split split off and started posting lout
things for attention. I do think that like she came
to terms with the situation and realized, like, my friends
will still be there for me, and like she felt
(39:19):
confidence in herself. But I don't think it's done. I
don't think her art is.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Done, Okay, And yeah, what I want to say is,
I do think that they could leave it where they
left it, in the sense that not every time a
girl likes a boy, does she need to like get
with him end up with him. I think Honeying Clover
is an example of one where there is unrequited love
sometimes and that could could end that way. But yeah,
(39:45):
I am here for it to see what happens with
those characters.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Same same, I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I'm excited to see, Like, not a lot of stories
do that where they start off in high school, they
go through like multiple years of content and developm and
stories and then they're like, yeah, they're going to university.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Now we're continuing, agreed.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, and that is one of them, just saying real
that after story, Yeah, like after story is about becoming
an adult and leaving high school. He doesn't go to university,
he just gets a job right away. But uh, it
also has that that very revolutionary thing it felt like
at the time of moving beyond boy getting girl in
(40:26):
high school and dealing with the ramifications of that. But yeah, Okay,
So next week we are discussing not only the three
episodes of Bunny Girl, the new season, which is called
Bunny Rascal is not Dream of Santa Claus or something,
if I'm correct, And then we're also discussing, say the
one that you know the.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Nation Gatriakuta banger this season, so good guys check that.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
One the first three episodes and the first three episodes
of Donda don So it's gonna be one of those
ones where we get a taste of what this season
and has to offer exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Those are some of the more popular ones this season.
There's one other one I want to watch too, but
maybe we'll save that for another time.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Oh yeah, and Jordan also loves Clode After Story, so
thank you, Jordan. Yeah, I've been trying to convince this
unculture Briggs guy to check it out. But we'll see.
We'll see if we.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Get this cringe when I watched it, but I hear
After Story is really good.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah. No, And I watched like a trash Taste thing
where Joey was talking about how it's hard in today's
like fast paced anime for them to actually people to
actually go back and watch Cleanad because it was slower
paced and you didn't have that much competition, and so
(41:42):
I feel like they could take their time with it.
But I do believe if someone does go back and
makes it through, uh, it's very rewarding. M hmm, yeah,
I think I think he got the nail on the
head with that. A lot of stuff is very fast
paced these days, for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
So I do want to say, knapsak kid, we haven't
talked about it. We should talk about it.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, a little bit here. Yeah, what are
we doing off?
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, I know it seems like you're going to wrap
it up. I'm like, no, I'll talk about it for
at least ten minutes here.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
All right, Okay, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
So this one focuses on Sakuta, and up until now
we have had twelve thirteen episodes and two movies.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
While they imagine, I'm like, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, it's tuck gonna matter.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Sakuta up until now has been caring for everyone else,
putting other people's feelings and syndromes and emotions first, dropping
everything even enough to like pretend to date Koga, enough
to not spend time with his girlfriend, to deal with
other people's needs like Shoko, like Futaba. But finally we
(42:47):
have a Sakuta kind of more of a focus as
our protagonist dealing with his own issues, and a big
thing here is at the end of the season, he
spiraled into like a depression once he lost Kayde. Right
while while it was it was a lot of responsibility
taking care of the like the new version of Kayde
with no memories, that was also kind of one of
(43:09):
his reasons for yeah exactly, like that was his thing.
And now Kayde Boom, that kind of kind of died.
New Kaide is here with new with her old memories.
They don't have the same bond, the same relationship, and
this Kayde is now going back to their mother, to
their father and kind of being like trying to rekindle
(43:32):
what she left off with, right, Yeah, and she sees
all this progress happening. And now you have Sokota kind
of feeling alone and not knowing his own emotions, where
it's like finally he could kind of focus on himself,
his future, like university, college, focus on spending time with
my whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
But he has this like wouldn't you be pissed at your.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Parents if if like when something shit, like the crazy
shit went down, like you were the one that had
to like step up and be the responsible one, take
care of your sister, be the father figure. I don't know,
because I didnt know, Like it made sense because, like,
from his perspective, he's like, oh, I I deep in
my heart, I knew that my mom was trying, but
(44:15):
she couldn't mentally handle it.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
I don't know if I will. Man. Honestly, I feel
like his reaction is kind of realistic in the sense that, hey, okay,
his dad probably is the one that could have stepped up,
but knowing that he's taking care of the mother and
they trust him taking like, obviously the dad has to
take care of the kids in a real world. Like
(44:38):
I feel like he can't just be like, I'm only
going to be taking care of the mom. Like he
can obviously check in on the mom and like, obviously
she's she's being taken care of by the nurses and
stuff like that, but he has to take care of
his family obviously. In my opinion, that's how it should be. Yeah,
but I can't I can't see him really blaming his mom,
but him almost enjoying life or enjoying becoming used to
(45:01):
life without his mom there and almost wishing she doesn't
come back because he's comfortable in his role, and the
kind of split between wanting his mom back and kind
of being comfortable without his mom. There that coming up
psychologically because they're all psychological issues. I feel like, yeah,
all of the syndromes are based on psychological issues. I
(45:23):
thought it was well done and realistic that as messed
up as it sounds for him to say, like, there
was pros to him having to step up and deal
with the consequences.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
It made him have to mature earlier on.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
But what I was just kind of saying is like
once things kind of snapped back to how they were
a little bit, it's like he was overcome with so
many different emotions in a way, or different like mental
thought processes, like he wanted to be mad at his parents,
but there was really no reason, like his mom fucking
got hospitalized, and like he whatever, you just just finished explaining.
(46:01):
There was just sometimes it was easier the way it was.
Now things are changing, he could finally focus on himself
and then a timeline shifts and he goes to an
ideal world where everything's fucking perfect.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Kayde never got bullthd Well.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
First Heason visible bro first season He's invisible, and we
should talk about that because I feel like that was
the result to an extent of him feeling like he's
no longer needed exactly, and part of that is obviously
kaya Day getting the mother getting better, kaya Day regaining
her memories, them all being happy together without him, and
(46:36):
then the also My is his girlfriend, but she's away,
she's busy with her life stuff, her world doesn't revolve
around him at this point. So yeah, there there wasn't that.
It's almost like no one was seeing him, just like
no one was seeing My in the in the first season.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Absolutely, just like My experienced early on as well. It's
a good contract or good comparison. I was just like, yeah,
maybe I jumped ahead a little bit quickly, but I
was saying all the emotions that he was feeling, all
the things that like psychologically was happy into him because
of what happened is what caused him to be invisible.
And then that's when the timeline shifts and he ends
up in a world where everything's kind of perfect, where
(47:17):
he's still with My, where Kayda never got bullied, he
has a good relationship with his family, they aren't just
stranged or whatever.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Where do I take this?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
But he wants to go back anyways.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
But he makes the choice to not take the easy way,
not take the easy life, and.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Chooses, I guess to struggle in his normal universe. Yeah,
like make his own choices.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
That's always just a.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Little bit as well.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
That's always interesting because yeah, I feel like an anime
you often have that choice whether you want to live
in a perfect dream or if you want to deal
with the problems of reality and every character you want
to look up to. Like comming from Guran, Logan decides
to face the reality and step away from the dream, right,
(48:09):
and obviously he does the same here, even if it's
not always easy.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
One thing I really loved about this season as well
is in great comparison that that you brought up that
Sokota is now invisible much like My was. But Sokota
was the only one that was able to see My
and now the reverse, My is the only one who
remembers Sokuta.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
And that was cathartic, bro That was emotional impact of
him being ignored by everyone and then her just coming
during the night and in that empty run, and then
you're wondering, like, well, she a part of it. Yeah,
so they're facing each other, and part of me is
wondering like does she see him? Does she feel him
(48:54):
but not see him? Pretend to see him, you known
want of those situations and then when they finally embrace,
Oh my god, bro, that was good. That the payoff
was excellent.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yep, that was a highlight for me.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
But yeah, Soccer chooses the giving up the easier life.
The original timeline mine remembers him showing that like she's
kind of his anchor and vice versa, which I love,
and then the two of the oh wait, and then
like he eventually goes and like have meant his relationship
(49:27):
with his mother, Yeah, and part of it, if you.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Want to cover that, well, it was a bit confusing
to me. But part of it was like he wasn't
acknowledging his mom. He wasn't looking at her, and in
some way that made her not see him, and that
kind of erased him from reality. So he had to
overcome that ignoring of his mom and face face that,
(49:50):
and then once he did, everything started falling into place.
And obviously, so, yeah, he had to overcome that issue
he was having with his mom returning to his life,
and he did that by going to her and when
he was not seen and stuff like that and having
that conversation saying I'm going to come back, you know,
I'm going to keep going until you finally see me,
(50:12):
and then at that point when he that clicks together,
she actually does see him.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah, I think one thing as well, Like you said,
like Socota, it would almost be easier for him to
just ignore his parents and keep life the way it
was with Kayde. It'd almost be easier for him to
just imagine that they were a bad parent and weren't trying.
But then while he's invisible, he sees how hard the
mother is trying, and he's like, of course she was.
(50:40):
I knew she was deep down within. I didn't want
to maybe accept it. And then now that he's no
longer ignoring her and accepts her that she's trying, she
can now see him, and there is something that, like
I do feel connected, everything connected so well.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
In the end.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Agreed, Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
I think Jordan explained this movie so much better than
I can. Oh my god, I'm struggling. I'm struggling.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yes, that was a mistake having him only in the
chat and not live there, but yeah, I sure got
him in here. Yeah, No, I agree, there was there
was some good stuff there, and I like the fact
that in order to overcome these puberty syndrome issues, you
usually have to confront psychologically what's holding you back or
(51:24):
or some kind of psychological problem. You have to deal
with it before this stuff resolves itself. And even let's
mention the fact that he no longer has the scar
on his heart, but now he had the umbilical cord
because it represented the issue with his mom sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Oh nice, I didn't I didn't think of that.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, yeah, so it It always manifests in some way,
particularly related to what he has to overcome or what
the issue is at hand.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
I finally found the tab with the characters the guy,
the boots friend the name of.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
I tagged away from it. I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Fifty two minutes later, If you guys are still wondering because.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
The friend's name is, I lost it again. I don't
know his last name. God, oh my god. On that note, guys,
are there any final thoughts?
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Goes in.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah. I think consistently this show is good, and then
there are parts I like more and less. In this situation,
I like the first movie the most, and I liked
the second movie Sister Venturing Out the least, But the
least is still solid, and I just personally love it
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more when they're dealing with supernatural stuff. And even the
third movie had some new supernatural stuff coming full circle
with him this time being invisible compared to my being
invisible being able to experience different realities right at the
same time, I really enjoy that aspect to it. Again,
some people might just be slice of life people, they
don't need it, But for this show, it really shines
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when it throws into supernatural.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
I think all in all, this thinking about the story
as one whole product fantastic.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
I love all the characters. Like you said, the first
movie is amazing, second movie is not as good, third
movie is pretty good. I have different feelings about all
of them, but as one ongoing story, which is really
what this is. You go because now we're even going
into university with them in the next season. As one
ongoing story, this is beautiful. I'm a huge fan and
I can't wait to talk about more next week.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yeah, one hundred percent agreed. And even the arcs that
are my favorite, you still gotta give them credit for
fleshing out the world and fleshing out the characters.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah, that are part of flashing out things that needed
to be fleshed out and character arcs that needed to
be gone through.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah yeah, exactly all right, until next time see a
Space Cowboys Bang
One up.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Everyone, Welcome back to the anime version. Today, we are
discussing the bunny Girl SENTPI movies, which I told Briggs
is super confusing because it's more like Rascal does not
dream of movies because there's no bunny Girl in the titles.
But to be clear, let me just open up my
messages with Briggs. No, actually, I have the movies here.
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So the first one we're talking about is Rascal does
not dream of a dreaming girl. Then Rascal does not
dream of a sister venturing out, and then Rascal does
not dream of a knapsack kid, which I don't even
know what that one means because I watched the movie,
but I don't know what it's referring to.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Our main protagonist was seeing a small version.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Of mine because she had a knapsack. I think she
had a napsack.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, that's why. For some reason, when I heard knapsack,
I thought of, like you know when like someone doesn't
have clothes and they just put on like like they
just have some some kind of like great the brown
thing or something on them.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Oh my god, Oh I know you're thinking, yeah, I
know you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Of yeah, like uh if you yeah, like, if you've
seen that thing with the dragon and the girl, the
book we read in Canada, she's in one of those.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Bad unlocked you're just unlocking memories.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, okay, But anyway, today we're talking about bunny Girl Sampi.
Apparently it's not even really called bunny Girls Sampi was
the first one. Rascal does not dream of bunny Girl?
Is that why the first season was the first season,
So I kept on calling it bunny Girl Sampi. That's
what everyone calls it. But yes, there's three different movies.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And I had to draw like I didn't. I don't
think they're like all of them are available on on
actual streaming services, which I know Breaks is used to
but for me, like, I'm not so then I had
to deal with you know, the wide open sea and
and getting pop ups and not having a good experience.
But I've figured it out eventually.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, I have my stuff set up. I yeah, yo, yeah, yo,
it up quite a bit. But anyway, I'm excited to
talk about these three movies. I do feel like overall,
these three movies could have just been a twelve episode season.
Other than the first movie, the other two didn't really
feel like movies. I just felt like three episodes slap together,
it's a movie. I tend to prefer watching like anime
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as seasons rather than movies, but sometimes with movies you
get like a higher budget, and the first one you
could definitely tell it kind of made a little bit
more sense.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
For it to be a movie.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I guess, yeah, your general thoughts though.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
My general thoughts is the first movie hit hard. It's
the best of the three, which again might not be
great considering like it doesn't like pick up Steam. Maybe
that's what you want, but like, this movie was like
really good, and then I feel like the other movies
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weren't as good, and I think it's because they didn't
shine where this show shines. And what I mean is
the second one, for example, was very much slice of Life,
which is fine, and all of them are slice of life,
but the first one had all that mystery that like
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the supernatural brings, and it was like very suspenseful. They
used it very well. I think that's where this show
shines the most, not just when it's like Slice of Life,
but also when it's bringing a supernatural in a very
exciting way, in a mysterious way. And there was time travel,
and I love time travel. You guys might know if
you've been listening to the podcast, but yeah, the second
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one was almost didn't even need to have puberty syndrome
in there. It was just her overcoming her fear of
not going to school and dealing with with I guess,
regaining her memories and stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I do agree with you. I agree the first one
it kind of made sense for it to be a movie.
It felt like a movie. The other two, I think
we're The thing that I like about these movies is
I feel like they're just fully cannon. They're part of
the story, and they just kind of continued where the
first season left off and answered a bunch of the
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questions and a bunch of things that they didn't finish
doing in the first season were done in these movies.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
True.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Now, I think if I think about these three movies
not as individual products, but as like just like one
big continuation, because one of them is like only an
hour long. One of them is like an hour and
ten minutes long.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
No, I think they're all like, I don't know, the
websites I was watching, they were all like at least
an hour and ten minutes. And then I think the
longest one was an hour and thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, the first one was an hour thirty because they
covers two volumes of the light novel and then Venturing
Out and Naps that kid were a little bit shorter,
covering volume eight and then volume nine.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So what was I trying to say?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I was just trying to say, like, if I think
about it just as like a a continuation of the
series and not as like individual movies, Like I didn't
go to the theaters to watch this. If I went
to the theaters to watch Sister Venturing Out, I would
have been extremely underwhelmed. But like, considering my my feelings
after season one were kind of like, Okay, they need
to cover Shoko makon O'Hara because what the hell's going
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on with her? They need to continue Kaide's story because
she just got her memories back, her brother just had
a mental breakdown.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But now we have a It's like it's a whole
new character Kaide.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Right with her new memories because she doesn't have any
of those past two years memories with her, So it's
kind of like a whole new character we got introduced
to at the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'm like we need to cover that.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And then up until now, our protagonist has been worrying
about my about my sister, about his sister, about his
friend Futaba whatever her name is, Nodak he was he
was solving everyone's problems, Koga's problems, but not really dealing
with his own. Other than like a little sprinkle here
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and sprinkle there, we didn't have an arc for him.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The climax a bit was dealing with him, but I
know what you mean.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, that was like his mental breakdown and he kind
of got over it, but he didn't actually deal with
his problems.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And I feel like that's why.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
What season, what the third movie was about, was actually
kind of finally giving some focus to our main character.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But we'll go through them chronologically.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I wanted to give that general opinion that I liked
them all as movies individually. If I went to the theaters,
I'd be pissed, but like as a continuation of season one.
If I think of these three movies as just like
a season two banger, yeah, and like I'm not everything
I wanted.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I don't even know one hundred percent if I'd be
pissed if I went to the movies, because again, compared
to your average stuff, it probably isn't that bad. But
I guess you're talking about like paying for a full
length movie price and then you get that like through episode.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
If I go to the movie, then buy the popcorn
and a drink and and and spend twenty I've we're
spending like forty dollars to go watch dude. I feel
like since Sister Venturing Out, Sister Venturing Out was like
they went they were even like montages and just like
like I don't like, I don't know, man, it just
felt like they're like, we want to make the movie
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rat would not be dream of a dreaming Girl.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
We want to make the naps that kid.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
But like, obviously we have to cover volume eight with
like Kyde's development, Let's stretch you out to be an hour.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I guess, yeah, yeah no, And like I said, the
first part, let's start with that because I think that's
where the show and what those kinds of themes is
at its best. And yeah, Jordan is funny in the
chat saying Sister Venturing Out was peak, so he.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Did like it. We talked about it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I did, Okay, Yeah, I do think it's like good
in its own way. It just like whenever I think
about it being a movie, it bothers me. But then
when I'm like, oh, that was just like two episodes
for three episodes in the middle of an anime, I'd
be like, perfect.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Love that they didn't bloss over Kade's development.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
We'll get to this. But I think that they did
a good job with how he answered the quest question
like who does he like more, because I think that
was on everybody's mind. And then when he he said,
I like, I can't pick. It's like having two kids,
two sisters. You're both my sister. I love you equally,
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And I'm like, that was the perfect answer. So I
really like that they thought about how to handle this situation.
I didn't know what he'd say, I didn't know how
he defused the situation, but that was a perfect answer.
So I will give them credit for that.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Mm hmm, let's cover Rascal does Not Dream of Dreaming Girl.
I like that they focused on Chokomakanahara for the first
movie because it did feel like we met her twice
in season one, one time through a flashback when our
main character was in need. He showed up, she showed up,
Boom scars on his chest around the same time, we
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think the scars are associated with like his puberty syndrome
or his sister's puberty syndrome, whatever, and and we're not.
We don't have a lot of answers there. End of
the season, his sister gets her memories back, he goes
into a mental breakdown, and when he needs someone once again,
Choko makin O'Hara pulls in and is there for him
during his time of need. Boom scars on his chest
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once again. And you're like, does this person even exist?
And goes and you actually made an insane call last
sear when we watch season one? What was that?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Is she from the future? I swear to god you
said it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That was That was one of the things that probably
crossed my mind. Another thing was is she a finkment
of his imagination? So yes, it wasn't like I knew
one hundred percent, but I was throwing stuff at the wall,
and yeah, one of them turned out to be correct.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
What a call? That was actually insane?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And I already watched the movie at that time, so
I was just like, I don't know if I can't
tell you, but do what a call? I was kind
of I was like internally freaking out.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, Like, I think it was well done, and I
think I figured it out that it was the heart
his heart, but it wasn't that much of the reveal,
so it was like only a little bit ahead of
the reveal. So it's still I got to feel a
bit good that I figured it out. But I also
appreciated the twist, and it makes sense in the sense
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that two people can't be together if they're from different timelines,
like they can't be observed together, whatever. But the fact
that the heart was there and like they were different people,
but the heart was getting affected because both people had
his heart. That was a cool twist and something that
clearly they knew from the beginning, which is why he
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had those scars on his chest to begin with.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, the author definitely thought this out thoroughly, in like
introducing this character early on in the flashback, having the
scars early on, and then covering it for this big
movie afterwards.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
It is great, and you know it was entertaining too,
because again you feel sorry for her because she's gonna die, right,
That's one of the things you're keeping in mind as
you watch, and not the whole time but when you
find out, but before that she was the only rival
of my that was just so forward. Yeah, it made
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for some interesting dynamics where you know, usually maybe you
could think that might could be jealous of a girl,
but the girl's not outright like hitting on him. But
here Choko was definitely hitting on him hard, which was
fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, right in front of her, right in front of her.
It was great.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And then's adult This is adult Choko makun Ohara. By
the way, yes, up until this point no one else
had seen it was our main character's first crush was
this adult version. During season one, we meet the younger
version and it was like something with like a stray cat,
and then our protagonist Sakuta took in the stray cat
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and said, you could come by whenever you want to
visit until like you're able to take it in yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
We do find out that the young version is dying.
She's gravely ill and needs a heart transplant. But then
during this season, the older one appears once again, finally
in front of other people, showing that they exist, but
she couldn't go home because she's in the same universe
as the younger one. At the same time, so they
can't be observed together, right, But.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Again they made like twists and turn like they made
us keep wondering and throwing us off constantly with the
fact that at first she was saying it was the
same one, just growing older, and then we find out
that it wasn't. But then she even lies about when
and where he's going to get into the accident. And yeah,
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there's just so many twists and turns, and it really
kept me interested excited, like what is he gonna die?
My the mind pushing him out of the way.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Oh, my god, and dying it was said.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
There was so many emotional moments, so many twists and turns.
And while I was kind of with you where I
was able to figure some things out, it wasn't like
I think them out so early on. And then as
I figured some things out, then you get a whole
different twist, Like I didn't realize that there were two
different showcos until a little bit on. Then my jumped
in front of the car, sacrificing herself. You have Shoko
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also trying to sacrifice herself and tell uh Sakuta like,
so basically for context for the people watching, Sakuta ends
up dying in this version of a timeline, and then
when he gets hit by a car and dies, they
use his heart to save Shoko. Right, but Shoko is
trying to be like sacrifice herself and kind of sit
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and told Sakuta like the wrong area or like he
told she told her to meet him, to meet him
at a certain place for a date, knowing he would
go to my instead, and that's where he was initially
meeting my and end up getting hit by a car
or something.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Maybe I'm screwing up the exactly, so I didn't set.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Up with him, and and then he later realized that
the place he was supposed to be hit by a
car wasn't the actual place, and they starts running to
the other place. But then obviously he gets it was
he gets.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But from my understanding, it was all it was all
part of and.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
We're like to get into trouble.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Initially, My wanted to meet with Sakuta at the fight
like that some type of festival, right that was kind
of not initially, but like when the first time they
brought up New Year Christmas Eve, My brings it up
and then says, no, let's do this instead. Because Choko
had already asked him, because Choko knew that if Sakuta
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and my went to go to that place, that's when
he gets hit in the previous past.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, like, uh yeah. The point is she made sure
that he wasn't where he was supposed to be at
the exact time, like she was trying to make sure.
But it was a psychology exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, that's what I liked about it. It's like, I
don't know, I'm not going to explain it again. It's
a little confusing, but I do like the like the
reverse psychology because she's from the future, She's able to
change his motives and end up in a different place
to not be hit. But then Sakuta, being the fucking
self sacrificial, always kind of putting others first and willing
to sacrifice stuff his own well being, wants to go
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to that place and get hit by the car, which
is crazy because MAI's literally like, choose yourself, choose me.
At the same time, it was really good.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It was really good in the sense that it forced
them to look at the actual consequences in a way
where they could go back because of time travel, and
he saw the consequences of his quote unquote selfless behavior
in that if he hurting himself to save Shoko, he's
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also hurting my And in this case, he literally killed her.
But even if he didn't kill her, if she didn't
die because of it, then he still would have been
hurting her, and who knows how she would have reacted
to his death right, So he had to at a
certain point decide, I can't help everyone. I have to
choose who's most important for me to help, and obviously
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he chooses my, which makes sense, but part of him
thought he could save everyone, or he can help everyone
and just sacrifice himself. But overcoming that and understanding that
by sacrificing yourself you're sacrificing the people that are closest
to and choosing my and telling the future showco because
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he knows this and the consequences of his actions, that
he's going to pick my, I think was a very
powerful thing to do. And then eventually he kind of
wants to go back again and like save everyone, which
again kind of takes away from from it for me,
because it would have been nice if he's just like yeah,
But Choko is the one who decides to handle it
(16:53):
on her own by going back, which put that part
was a bit confusing to me. I don't know, it
kind of seemed like it cheapened it a bit. What
do you think because she goes back and then she
seems to fix everything so that no one has to suffer?
What did you think?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But it wasn't Schoko who actually accomplished that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Who was it?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
It was later revealed that what ended up happening was
that My and Sakota, even though they Choko went back
and changed some things. Mayan Sokota didn't remember Choko anymore,
but they were so influenced.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
But I think did that by going back again?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yes, yes, but the only reason Choko lived was because
of my own Sokota. In the end, they were so
so influenced by what had happened, and the thing, even
though they didn't remember, My went on to go and
do that. I do a movie that was like very
similar to Choko's situation. Sakuta and my still like for
whatever reason, they cared so much about it, and then
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during that movie they donated to the to that hospital
for heart transplant.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And more reasoning. So basically what happened was Choco sacrificed herself.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Oh, I like that, Okay, but I didn't fully and
fully follow that. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, well it wasn't properly.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It was like kind of hinted at, and then later
on in the other movies it was kind of confirmed.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Okay, I like that because I thought, yeah, she did
the movie and she stuck with them. But the fact
that the movie raised funds for this that actually literally
helped her, and that their bond transcended time and actually
saved her. Okay, on second examination, yeah that was cool.
And obviously we get the heartfelt moment at the end
(18:42):
where they do remember her and she tears up, which
was cathartic. Right.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It was nice to see the younger show by the sea.
They recognized each other across timelines. It's so fucking it
was so amazing. It did feel a little cheap to
me at first as well, when it's like, oh wait,
how did she survive?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
But then it was briefly mentioned when you used to
pick the.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Poster that like they were forever like mine just felt
compelled to be in this role. She felt so compelled
to be in this role, and they and both mine
and Soccerta felt like they needed to like donate to
this cause. Creating a ripple effect that caused them to
have like I guess more that makes sense, Like they
didn't they don't need someone to die of Yeah, exactly,
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they don't need someone to die that exact moment by accident.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
They have more of a system in place.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah they don't exactly. No, that's really cool. Yeah. I
like that that explanation much better than then all that
complication and then her just going back by herself and
fixing it. Like, so, I'm glad that you enlightened beyond
that because I think that went over my head while
I was watching.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It was really subtle.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
It was really subtle, and I think because I was
watching it in chat, I had chat to be like,
but trust me, there's a post credit scene for movie
two that you need to watch.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Or or something like that. I'm like, okay, yeah, thanks guys.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah. When I saw the what's it called? When I
saw the conclusion the outro, I clicked off. I didn't
I didn't know there was stuff to watch at the end.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I think there was a post credit for both the
like for two of them, and they were kind of
a related to SHOWCOO. But anyway, one of my one
part I really liked about this was when my sacrifice
herself first of all a jaw dropping moment, but also
the repercussions of that were Skuta getting to realize what
would happen if he sacrificed himself because he was so
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depressed and fucked up mentally without my right Yeah, and
then he's realizing, oh shit, if I keep on sacrificing
myself and doing these things to like to myself, thinking
I'm helping everyone and I'm the only one suffering, that
is not reality exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Like, you can't be selfish in that sense because you're
still hurting someone. You just have to decide who you're
going to be hurting in that sense. So yeah, and
my thing was really good because she acted and again
I like these kinds of twists. She acted cold to
him and like, I will move on. I know you're
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gonna make this decision, and and then she ends up
actually screw that, I'm jumping in to save you, which
I thought was that that's complete one eighty, which maybe
you could see coming right because you know how much
she loves him, But that one eighty of I hate it,
but I'm going to accept it. I'm mad at you
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but I'm gonna accept your decision there and then actually
going and saving him and not accepting it. That was
it was so powerful, man, it was. Yeah, I loved it.
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I like just that moment of like my as well,
just kind of being like, I think I love you
more than you love me, Like we're usually you as
seme as the opposite, like masa celebrity soccutas, like the
normal person is the guy in this situation chasing, like
trying to Like there's.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
A superficial layer, right, and then there's the emotions underneath,
and obviously on a superficial layer, he's always the one
that's chasing and she's the one that's being chased, and
that's sort of how they establish their dynamic. But underneath,
and I'm not gonna say she loves him more, but
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she says she thinks she does. But there they love
each other at least as much, and she's not as
cold and distant as inside as she acts outwardly. Sometimes Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's her thing.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I probably love you more. It's while maybe not the truth,
like because he loves her a lot as well, maybe
it might be similar. Her saying that just shows how
much she does. It kind of brings to reality how
much she does love him, and because, like you said,
on the surface, sometimes it's like she's trying to like
be cold or like haha, chase me, like like playing
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the you know.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah exactly. And it was on TV too, if you
remember that, she said that she thinks she likes him
more and then the host was like, oh can you
say that, like you might see this. It was just
they did a good job of bringing in her celebrity
into it, uh with that scene. I liked it.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Anyway, I very much liked Rascal was not dream of
Dreaming Girl probably my favorite movie of the three. Not probably,
It's definitely my favorite movie of the three, although I
do start to appreciate Naps that kid more upon like
a rediscussion with Jordan, I feel like you probably even
more now upon rediscussion of Dream of.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah yeah, because I said from the beginning it was
my favorite, and I had moments where where I was
on the edge of my seat and like, no way,
he's good, No way, what's going on? Are they gonna
go back? Like I had moments where I was on
the edge of my seat wondering what they're gonna do
or no way they did that. And I love time travel,
so that'll always color my experiences with time travel and shows.
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But yeah, I like it and appreciate it even more
upon the Briggs notes, Hell.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, I loved That's why I love anime.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Virgin and Ran Cafes is talking about anime with people,
and you kind of get to see it from a different.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Perspective and like pick up things you may have missed.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And I'm excited to hear what you and Jordan talked
about when you talked about the Knapsack Kid. But let's
quickly talk about Sister venturing.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Out sounds good before we do that. I just want
to say one last thing. When puts on like the
Dreaming Girl is so good that even in a show
that I feel like the science, I don't care to
care about the science. The moment of him putting on
like the costume in order to like save both himself
and my because he couldn't come in contact with himself.
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But because he's wearing the costume himself, like he doesn't
know that it him, so they're not technically observing each
other or something or like or like one of the current.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, exactly, like like, I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I appreciated it so much one in some of the
other like syndromes, I'm like, yeah, I don't care about
the science.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, yeah, no, it was it was good. It was good. End. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Anyway, Rascal does not dream of a sister venturing out.
So at the end of the first season, Kayde gets
her memories back.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
The last two years are white.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
That version of Kaide essentially doesn't exist anymore, essentially died.
We have the original Kayde that like spent her first
decade of life whatever growing up with the with this reality.
And then when she was getting bullied, I think, I
guess that's the fence mechanism or like sometimes at puberty syndrome,
she lost her memories completely. And then that's when took
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care of her for two took care of her for
two years, and then when she reverts back forgetting about
the last two years, Skuta had a mental breakdown and
it kind of ends there, and then that's where the
start of Rasmoo's not dream of a sister venturing out
picks up with her.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Arc yeah, and so she has access to the old
ones journal and then she starts to act like she
would act, even if it's not congruent with her personality,
because despite the fact that they were in the same body,
they have different personalities. And it's all about this original
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sister coming to terms with the fact that who she
is and she doesn't need to be this other one
and she's not actually liked less than the other one.
But just like he says so expertly, and it's my
favorite part of the movie because I think he just
gives such a good answer. It's I love you both
as sisters and as much, just like you'd love siblings,
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like equally. And yeah, I thought that he did a
good job because I knew that there was a lot
of connection to the other sister, and I was wondering,
how is he going to deal with this? And they
found a really good way that I think is realistic
and makes sense. Even though that reaction of his when
she said you love her more than me and the
(27:18):
guy came in, remember when they were in the in
the hospital, the not the hospital, the nurse's office in
the school, and then he just gave him that crazy
look because he was falling apart mentally. I was wondering,
how is he going to react to this? But he
found a good solution.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I will say I didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I did like that answer as well, because it does
feel like they're just completely different sisters even though they're
the same person. So that answer was great. I did
like that Kayde was trying to like do things that
the other Kaide was like that would do like go
see the pandas for her brother to like build that bond.
I like that Kaide was kind of in the end
(27:58):
able to make her own choices. At first, She's like, oh,
I want to go to the school that my brother
went to, blah blah blah, but then in the end
she made her own choice for herself for what she
thinks is best for her, and I was like, I
did enjoy that kind of arc of hers.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, And the brother was our main character, was good
at actually kind of think outside the box. At first,
obviously you take what she's saying for face value, and
you want to help her get her way even if
everyone disagrees. But then he was open minded enough, again
like the parent in this situation where he went to
(28:37):
the to meet the counselor, and he went to this
other school and saw the interviews and had an open
mind enough to actually bring this awareness and this consciousness
to his sister in a creative way by using my
(28:57):
sister's concert and then having his sister being able to
talk to the idol and asking, what do you think
she sucks? Do you think she's different or in a
bad way just because she didn't have the conventional schooling system. Yeah,
he really brought it home to her and showed her
he'd accept her no matter what. And again, keep in mind,
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this was my least favorite movie, and it's hard for
me to sing its praises just because it's not It
wasn't my favorite topic or anything like that. But yeah,
I do think they did some stuff really well, and
it needed to be addressed because she's an important character
from the beginning, And I agree that was needed to
be tied up because there would obviously be issues with
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the old one disappearing that affecting our main character, and
we saw that with that reaction when that teacher got
into the nurse's office and his like broken reaction, and
then obviously with his sister coming back and how she's
dealing with the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, it's definitely not like an overly amazing movie. Out
of the three year odd comparing it to the season,
But it was, like you said, it was something that
needed to be done her, her character needed to come
to a close and properly develop and I feel like
by the end they achieved that. And it was only
an hour long, so it's like equivalent to three episodes.
It may have been an hour ten, but whatever. And
like in the end, Kayde like has her own confidence,
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she is able to build some human connections, make choices
for herself. She's come so so far, and I'm happy
that we had that kind of development. And just to
say something to sing this series praises because like you said,
like it's not like this.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
This movie was overly amazing.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I like how different the two Kaidas were. But more
than that, it makes sense the way that they acted
the old Kayde or not the old Kaida, the one
that was only around for two years, that had no
memories of the past, with a lot more immature for
her age, and built his bond with her brother because
she had all this fear of venturing out right of
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she had no relationship with her mom or her dad.
After she lost all her memories, the mom went to
like got hospitalized, and the dad kind of moved out
and kind of left things in the brother's hands, which
is fucking crazy. But more than that, I just think
like her being more immature, relying on the brother building
this relationship with her brother makes a lot more sense
given the circumstances. Her brother almost became a father figure
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in a way versus the Kaide who the original Kaide,
the one with twelve years of memories, whatever it may be,
feels like a more normal brother sister relationship where it's like,
why you act in that way?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Like it was like a more of a like, yeah,
of course I love you as a brother, but like.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Out with girls, you know, don't go on dates, then.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, yeah, let's go go have go talk to your friends,
not me.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah alone, I'll dre not to that to that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And it makes sense because keep in mind the mother
fell apart mentally, which we'll get to in the third
movie right when that can condition was happening to her,
and so for her, the majority of her memories, or
if not all of them, are this guy being her
brother and her having her mom and dad present as
a mom and dad, and then yeah, the other one
(32:14):
was the complete opposite, where this guy was the mom
the dad, the brother, everything, so it makes sense that
they would see and react with him in very different ways.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I agree overall, like Bunny Girls Empire has just been
consistently good. Whether this is your favorite movie or your
least favorite movie or you yeah, made more sense to
be a series. I think it was still good content
that was needed for the story. And that's what kind
of Bunny Girls Empire seems to be doing. It just
seems to be like, yeah, these are the characters, this
is like the supernatural element that's like possible when they
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have issues or elements that are possible, and they're just
going through time like eventually, I think this new season
is going to be in college, like we're just going
through time through their lives and experiencing like each character
going through development and their own little arcs.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I love it. I love the way that.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I'm excited to see where we go into college years
because correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like
we don't have any crazy loose ends anymore. Right. I know,
I jumped the gun last time and I said, oh,
I think this first season is good on its own,
and then you pointed out some stuff that wasn't wrapped up,
and the movies did a great job of making that obvious.
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But now, is there anything obviously other than just what
will happen eventually with our main character and his love interest.
Besides that, which is always going to be the case.
No matter where you end, you're gonna be wondering that,
is there anything else you feel like needs to be
wrapped up after the movies?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I think the main thing is kind of what you
just said, Like now, like my and Sakuta have had
a very beautiful relationship with a lot of elements around it,
but they haven't really had a lot of time. They've
been separated a lot because of work in school and
because socoat.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I want her to work. It always gets in the way. Bro.
I want to get to a point where it doesn't
get in the way. But we'll see if that happens.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Between my career and socotas saving every person left and right,
they haven't had a lot of time to actually like
spend time and do things together in a typical relationship way.
And now they're planning on going to the same college together, right, Yeah,
So I'm hoping that that maybe causes some conflicts, but
overall improvement in their relationship and like having some growth there,
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but I'm sure there's gonna be issues because they haven't
really been able to experience a typical relationship.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, and to hype it up to you guys even
more the IMDb for again, I I do think that
sometimes in the beginning, people do are generous with rating
when they really like something because of the hype. I
remember like Freeran was like perfect score or something at
some point or something like that. But right now it's
(35:06):
ranked eight point six, which is higher than the first
season and higher than The Rascal Does Not Dream of
a Dreaming Girl movie, which is even higher than the
first season. So it's the highest rated thing we've gotten
so far, So they don't drop the ball. Evidently people
are enjoying it, which makes me even more excited to
check it out. Plus, I tell Briggs all the time,
(35:28):
I really appreciate as someone who's older now and not
a high school kid, I appreciate those university atmospheres. I
appreciate those university shows.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
More relatable, even though we're out of university now for
quite a while. It's more relatable to see the guys.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, but at the end of the day, university kids.
It is transitionary, but university kids are adults right at
that point, so there are a lot of ways we
can relate to it, even though yeah, we haven't been
in university for a while.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, it's adult relationships and adult people trying to like figure.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Out the adult responsibilities.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
And responsibilities exactly. It's a lot different than these high
school anime, which I like as well. But yeah, I'm
excited for that element. I do think we need to
see more with Kaide in this upcoming season because even
though she made the decision to go to this high school,
we haven't seen her in it. Remember, she got bullied
and she had so many issues.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
They decided not to do the virtual thing, right.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
The virtual one.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
But I think we're going to cover like if they're
just gonna keep on going like chronologically. While Kayde made
like progress, she actually hasn't started that high school, so
we're gonna see some of that and the issues that
may arise there. And I also Futuba and what's the
other guy's name?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Oh my god, that like the jock guy.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
His his bro, the brow of the series. Yeah, I
don't know the top lay the bro.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Of the series.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
And I just think you have relationships in high school,
and I want to see what happens, what happens if
the brow of the series does not go to the
same university or college as his current girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And I must say before similar go ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I must say this before I forget. I want to
appreciate the fact that the bro of the series is
actually successful human being and has girlfriends and girls interested
in him. I like that. I like that they both
have that. I think too often in anime, and Klanad
is guilty of this. They make the bro the second
(37:37):
fiddle and he's almost like a punching bag, and all
the girls want the main guy. So I like the
fact that here he has a respectable bro that you know,
they're kind of equals in that sense. Yeah, and they
have their own girls and and they're on an equal
playing field. I like the way they did that. It's
more mature than a lot of anime where the main
(37:59):
character gets all the girls and then the side guy
is kind of like a punching bag.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I completely agree. Like he's doing well in sports, he's
got a girlfriend, he has another girl that like their friend,
so that was interested in that's interested in him, And
I do think Futaba's ark was slightly covered, but we're
gonna I guarantee we're gonna get more fa and more
friend that friend moments in the next season.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Okay, from hypothesis.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
I'm just answering your question. You're like, you're like, where
does it go from here?
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Like more clothed.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
While finishing her ARC and having some development to get
rid of the syndrome. I don't think like he wants
to be with that guy or like maybe to have
a boyfriend, right, she wants to.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Feel recognized. Yeah, I think because her family's.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Always traveling, both her guy friends have girlfriends, Like I
feel like she's not getting wasn't getting the most attention,
So that's why she ended up lashing out in one
part of herself split split off and started posting lout
things for attention. I do think that like she came
to terms with the situation and realized, like, my friends
will still be there for me, and like she felt
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confidence in herself. But I don't think it's done. I
don't think her art is.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Done, Okay, And yeah, what I want to say is,
I do think that they could leave it where they
left it, in the sense that not every time a
girl likes a boy, does she need to like get
with him end up with him. I think Honeying Clover
is an example of one where there is unrequited love
sometimes and that could could end that way. But yeah,
(39:45):
I am here for it to see what happens with
those characters.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Same same, I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I'm excited to see, Like, not a lot of stories
do that where they start off in high school, they
go through like multiple years of content and developm and
stories and then they're like, yeah, they're going to university.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Now we're continuing, agreed.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, and that is one of them, just saying real
that after story, Yeah, like after story is about becoming
an adult and leaving high school. He doesn't go to university,
he just gets a job right away. But uh, it
also has that that very revolutionary thing it felt like
at the time of moving beyond boy getting girl in
(40:26):
high school and dealing with the ramifications of that. But yeah, Okay,
So next week we are discussing not only the three
episodes of Bunny Girl, the new season, which is called
Bunny Rascal is not Dream of Santa Claus or something,
if I'm correct, And then we're also discussing, say the
one that you know the.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Nation Gatriakuta banger this season, so good guys check that.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
One the first three episodes and the first three episodes
of Donda don So it's gonna be one of those
ones where we get a taste of what this season
and has to offer exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Those are some of the more popular ones this season.
There's one other one I want to watch too, but
maybe we'll save that for another time.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Oh yeah, and Jordan also loves Clode After Story, so
thank you, Jordan. Yeah, I've been trying to convince this
unculture Briggs guy to check it out. But we'll see.
We'll see if we.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Get this cringe when I watched it, but I hear
After Story is really good.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah. No, And I watched like a trash Taste thing
where Joey was talking about how it's hard in today's
like fast paced anime for them to actually people to
actually go back and watch Cleanad because it was slower
paced and you didn't have that much competition, and so
(41:42):
I feel like they could take their time with it.
But I do believe if someone does go back and
makes it through, uh, it's very rewarding. M hmm, yeah,
I think I think he got the nail on the
head with that. A lot of stuff is very fast
paced these days, for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
So I do want to say, knapsak kid, we haven't
talked about it. We should talk about it.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, a little bit here. Yeah, what are
we doing off?
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, I know it seems like you're going to wrap
it up. I'm like, no, I'll talk about it for
at least ten minutes here.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
All right, Okay, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
So this one focuses on Sakuta, and up until now
we have had twelve thirteen episodes and two movies.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
While they imagine, I'm like, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, it's tuck gonna matter.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Sakuta up until now has been caring for everyone else,
putting other people's feelings and syndromes and emotions first, dropping
everything even enough to like pretend to date Koga, enough
to not spend time with his girlfriend, to deal with
other people's needs like Shoko, like Futaba. But finally we
(42:47):
have a Sakuta kind of more of a focus as
our protagonist dealing with his own issues, and a big
thing here is at the end of the season, he
spiraled into like a depression once he lost Kayde. Right
while while it was it was a lot of responsibility
taking care of the like the new version of Kayde
with no memories, that was also kind of one of
(43:09):
his reasons for yeah exactly, like that was his thing.
And now Kayde Boom, that kind of kind of died.
New Kaide is here with new with her old memories.
They don't have the same bond, the same relationship, and
this Kayde is now going back to their mother, to
their father and kind of being like trying to rekindle
(43:32):
what she left off with, right, Yeah, and she sees
all this progress happening. And now you have Sokota kind
of feeling alone and not knowing his own emotions, where
it's like finally he could kind of focus on himself,
his future, like university, college, focus on spending time with
my whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
But he has this like wouldn't you be pissed at your.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Parents if if like when something shit, like the crazy
shit went down, like you were the one that had
to like step up and be the responsible one, take
care of your sister, be the father figure. I don't know,
because I didnt know, Like it made sense because, like,
from his perspective, he's like, oh, I I deep in
my heart, I knew that my mom was trying, but
(44:15):
she couldn't mentally handle it.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
I don't know if I will. Man. Honestly, I feel
like his reaction is kind of realistic in the sense that, hey, okay,
his dad probably is the one that could have stepped up,
but knowing that he's taking care of the mother and
they trust him taking like, obviously the dad has to
take care of the kids in a real world. Like
(44:38):
I feel like he can't just be like, I'm only
going to be taking care of the mom. Like he
can obviously check in on the mom and like, obviously
she's she's being taken care of by the nurses and
stuff like that, but he has to take care of
his family obviously. In my opinion, that's how it should be. Yeah,
but I can't I can't see him really blaming his mom,
but him almost enjoying life or enjoying becoming used to
(45:01):
life without his mom there and almost wishing she doesn't
come back because he's comfortable in his role, and the
kind of split between wanting his mom back and kind
of being comfortable without his mom. There that coming up
psychologically because they're all psychological issues. I feel like, yeah,
all of the syndromes are based on psychological issues. I
(45:23):
thought it was well done and realistic that as messed
up as it sounds for him to say, like, there
was pros to him having to step up and deal
with the consequences.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
It made him have to mature earlier on.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
But what I was just kind of saying is like
once things kind of snapped back to how they were
a little bit, it's like he was overcome with so
many different emotions in a way, or different like mental
thought processes, like he wanted to be mad at his parents,
but there was really no reason, like his mom fucking
got hospitalized, and like he whatever, you just just finished explaining.
(46:01):
There was just sometimes it was easier the way it was.
Now things are changing, he could finally focus on himself
and then a timeline shifts and he goes to an
ideal world where everything's fucking perfect.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Kayde never got bullthd Well.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
First Heason visible bro first season He's invisible, and we
should talk about that because I feel like that was
the result to an extent of him feeling like he's
no longer needed exactly, and part of that is obviously
kaya Day getting the mother getting better, kaya Day regaining
her memories, them all being happy together without him, and
(46:36):
then the also My is his girlfriend, but she's away,
she's busy with her life stuff, her world doesn't revolve
around him at this point. So yeah, there there wasn't that.
It's almost like no one was seeing him, just like
no one was seeing My in the in the first season.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Absolutely, just like My experienced early on as well. It's
a good contract or good comparison. I was just like, yeah,
maybe I jumped ahead a little bit quickly, but I
was saying all the emotions that he was feeling, all
the things that like psychologically was happy into him because
of what happened is what caused him to be invisible.
And then that's when the timeline shifts and he ends
up in a world where everything's kind of perfect, where
(47:17):
he's still with My, where Kayda never got bullied, he
has a good relationship with his family, they aren't just
stranged or whatever.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Where do I take this?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
But he wants to go back anyways.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
But he makes the choice to not take the easy way,
not take the easy life, and.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Chooses, I guess to struggle in his normal universe. Yeah,
like make his own choices.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
That's always just a.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Little bit as well.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
That's always interesting because yeah, I feel like an anime
you often have that choice whether you want to live
in a perfect dream or if you want to deal
with the problems of reality and every character you want
to look up to. Like comming from Guran, Logan decides
to face the reality and step away from the dream, right,
(48:09):
and obviously he does the same here, even if it's
not always easy.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
One thing I really loved about this season as well
is in great comparison that that you brought up that
Sokota is now invisible much like My was. But Sokota
was the only one that was able to see My
and now the reverse, My is the only one who
remembers Sokuta.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
And that was cathartic, bro That was emotional impact of
him being ignored by everyone and then her just coming
during the night and in that empty run, and then
you're wondering, like, well, she a part of it. Yeah,
so they're facing each other, and part of me is
wondering like does she see him? Does she feel him
(48:54):
but not see him? Pretend to see him, you known
want of those situations and then when they finally embrace,
Oh my god, bro, that was good. That the payoff
was excellent.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yep, that was a highlight for me.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
But yeah, Soccer chooses the giving up the easier life.
The original timeline mine remembers him showing that like she's
kind of his anchor and vice versa, which I love,
and then the two of the oh wait, and then
like he eventually goes and like have meant his relationship
(49:27):
with his mother, Yeah, and part of it, if you.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Want to cover that, well, it was a bit confusing
to me. But part of it was like he wasn't
acknowledging his mom. He wasn't looking at her, and in
some way that made her not see him, and that
kind of erased him from reality. So he had to
overcome that ignoring of his mom and face face that,
(49:50):
and then once he did, everything started falling into place.
And obviously, so, yeah, he had to overcome that issue
he was having with his mom returning to his life,
and he did that by going to her and when
he was not seen and stuff like that and having
that conversation saying I'm going to come back, you know,
I'm going to keep going until you finally see me,
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and then at that point when he that clicks together,
she actually does see him.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah, I think one thing as well, Like you said,
like Socota, it would almost be easier for him to
just ignore his parents and keep life the way it
was with Kayde. It'd almost be easier for him to
just imagine that they were a bad parent and weren't trying.
But then while he's invisible, he sees how hard the
mother is trying, and he's like, of course she was.
(50:40):
I knew she was deep down within. I didn't want
to maybe accept it. And then now that he's no
longer ignoring her and accepts her that she's trying, she
can now see him, and there is something that, like
I do feel connected, everything connected so well.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
In the end.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Agreed, Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
I think Jordan explained this movie so much better than
I can. Oh my god, I'm struggling. I'm struggling.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yes, that was a mistake having him only in the
chat and not live there, but yeah, I sure got
him in here. Yeah, No, I agree, there was there
was some good stuff there, and I like the fact
that in order to overcome these puberty syndrome issues, you
usually have to confront psychologically what's holding you back or
(51:24):
or some kind of psychological problem. You have to deal
with it before this stuff resolves itself. And even let's
mention the fact that he no longer has the scar
on his heart, but now he had the umbilical cord
because it represented the issue with his mom sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Oh nice, I didn't I didn't think of that.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, yeah, so it It always manifests in some way,
particularly related to what he has to overcome or what
the issue is at hand.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
I finally found the tab with the characters the guy,
the boots friend the name of.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
I tagged away from it. I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Fifty two minutes later, If you guys are still wondering because.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
The friend's name is, I lost it again. I don't
know his last name. God, oh my god. On that note, guys,
are there any final thoughts?
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Goes in.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah. I think consistently this show is good, and then
there are parts I like more and less. In this situation,
I like the first movie the most, and I liked
the second movie Sister Venturing Out the least, But the
least is still solid, and I just personally love it
(52:44):
more when they're dealing with supernatural stuff. And even the
third movie had some new supernatural stuff coming full circle
with him this time being invisible compared to my being
invisible being able to experience different realities right at the
same time, I really enjoy that aspect to it. Again,
some people might just be slice of life people, they
don't need it, But for this show, it really shines
(53:06):
when it throws into supernatural.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
I think all in all, this thinking about the story
as one whole product fantastic.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
I love all the characters. Like you said, the first
movie is amazing, second movie is not as good, third
movie is pretty good. I have different feelings about all
of them, but as one ongoing story, which is really
what this is. You go because now we're even going
into university with them in the next season. As one
ongoing story, this is beautiful. I'm a huge fan and
I can't wait to talk about more next week.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yeah, one hundred percent agreed. And even the arcs that
are my favorite, you still gotta give them credit for
fleshing out the world and fleshing out the characters.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah, that are part of flashing out things that needed
to be fleshed out and character arcs that needed to
be gone through.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah yeah, exactly all right, until next time see a
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